February 25, 2025 • 36 mins
In the second hour of today's edition of Ryan Schuiling Live, Susan Crabtree, Real Clear Politics national political correspondent joins Ryan to discuss the appointment of Dan Bongino, former Secret Service agent and NYPD officer and host of The Dan Bongino Show, as deputy director of the FBI.
Susan is also the author of Fool's Gold: The Radicals, Con Artists, and Traitors Who Killed the California Dream and Now Threaten Us All. The book is available for pre-order on Amazon as is set to be released on Tuesday, March 11.
Then, Darcy Schoening, current Director of Special Initiatives for the Colorado Republican Party, joins Ryan to announce her candidacy to succeed Dave Williams as chair of the state GOP.Both Darcy and Ryan were featured speakers at the annual meeting for the Colorado Log Cabin Republicans.
Susan is also the author of Fool's Gold: The Radicals, Con Artists, and Traitors Who Killed the California Dream and Now Threaten Us All. The book is available for pre-order on Amazon as is set to be released on Tuesday, March 11.
Then, Darcy Schoening, current Director of Special Initiatives for the Colorado Republican Party, joins Ryan to announce her candidacy to succeed Dave Williams as chair of the state GOP.Both Darcy and Ryan were featured speakers at the annual meeting for the Colorado Log Cabin Republicans.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The overwhelming majority of Americans are patriots that love this
country and love their family, They love their jobs, they
go to work every day. But there are a small
number of really bad people out there who are planning
on really bad things, from terrorists to narco traffickers, child
sex rings, gang members. And I tell you right now,
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I'm not going to rest easy until we find as
many of you as we can. Don't sleep no after today.
That's my mission, folks. Of course, the Constitution matters. We're
going to get back to the four corners of that
document that guide us all as well. And I think
you know from my history of covering content here, primacy
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of that is really important. You understand that it is
the one thing that dictates all the rest of your actions,
and that's the Constitution.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Dan Bongino on his podcast earlier today were for the
first time publicly he commented on the fact that the
news was released over the weekend on Sunday that Bongina
would be the new deputy director of the Federal Bureau
of Investigation. What a one two punch cash Ptel gets
confirmed as the FBI director and then not long after that,
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Dan Bongino is foregoing a big career that he has
established and carved out for himself with his own podcasts.
This is after you might recall as well Fox News
they didn't agree to terms parted ways. A lot of
people thought Dan might not be able to land on
his feet, but he certainly has. He has one of
the most listened to, watched podcasts on Rumble in real
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time download subscribers on all podcast platforms. He has built
a virtual empire and he will be putting all of
that on hold to serve this country and joining us now.
She covers the inside for real clear politics, including the
FBI and the Secret Service. We'll talk about both here
in our conversation today, Susan Crabtree and you can follow
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her on x by that same handle. Joined us on
Ryan Shuling Live. Susan, welcome back.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Well, thanks for having me. Grate to be back with you.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Rin absolutely, I always enjoy our conversations and just your
first reaction to one the news that Dan Bongino would
be appointed to that post, and to his reaction as
he articulated it today.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Well, if anyone thought that there would be any hesitation
about cleaning house at the FBI and restoring American trust
in this institution that is safeguarding our safety and against
terrorism and other domestic threats. I think you should put
that to rest with this new appointment. It does not
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have to do through Senate confirmation. He just have to
ready himself divest from his media empire. As you noted,
it's successful career. He I just think that it's going
to be a dynamic duel over at the FBI with
Cash Hotel in the lead and Dan Bongino. He is
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certainly not one to be shy about his passions and
his beliefs, and he was very articulate others somewhat emotional
this morning on his podcast, saying that, you know, he
truly believes this is a great honor, the honor of
a lifetime, he called it, even though it's sort of
this a real moment where he's leaving this media commentating
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position that he built up over the last decade.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Yeah, and he talked about how he struggled with the decision,
not just for the opportunity, I mean that was a
no brainer. He wants to serve this country, but what
he would have to leave behind and what it meant
for him from a personal standpoint, a professional standpoint, to
sacrifice to move. His family's involved in this decision, Paula,
his wife, where it's very closely with everything that he's built.
Of course, he's got everybody that he employs on the
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podcast itself, and he talks about making that decision right here.
It's been hard than I thought. I didn't plan on this.
I didn't plan on a lot of things.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
But I want you to know it is the honor
of my lifetime, and I hope I'm making a plea
to you all personally. I hope you're not angry or
upset at me for making this decision. I knew it
was the right thing to do, but there is a
big cost, and I understand that there's a chance when
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the mission's over that you guys all disappear and go
somewhere else.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
I'm not gonna lie to he It's been on my
mind for a long time.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
I hope not. I love you guys, but this is
a mission.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
I can't say no. One of the strongest endorsements of you, Susan,
why I'm always so thrilled to have you on this
show is that Dan Bongino thinks so highly of you
and your work. Any singer praises effusively on his program.
But the thing that I notice, and you might know
him a little bit better than I do about himself,
is that he's very reluctant to take credit. He is
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devoid in large part of the kind of ego you
might assign to somebody in his position. He is humble,
I would say, almost to a fault, and he's humbly
asking his audience not to be mad at him because
he made this decision. I think this just makes Dan
a very special figure in this space. What say you, yes?
Speaker 3 (05:27):
I think I am honored that he respects my reporting.
We both have overlapping sources in the super Service, so
he knows that I have been cultivating those sources over
the course of fourteen years. So this is not just
a one off that when Donald Trump had the assassination
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attempt against him and Butler, my sources started overflowing with
information to me, and I took it extremely seriously to
the responsibility that I helped with that information. I had
to get it out in a timely manner. And he
appreciates that. He's done nothing but helped me disseminate my
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information in a very forthright way, helped me on social
media to amplify my reporting. I feel like he's just
a very straightforward, he's, you know, take no prisoner's kind
of guy. He means what he says, does what he means,
and he is going to clean up help clean up
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the cigaret service. They're very good friends seeing Cash Betel,
and they share this passion for getting to the bottom
of some of these political witch hunts against the president
that have eroded the trust in the FBI among a
large segment of American people. And we need that trust
restored because the FBI, certainly they had the power to
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surveil every American and they have abuse that in the past,
as when it came to the Russian hoax, the Donald
Trump investigation into whether Russia was colluding with the Trump campaign.
Obviously we saw Robert Muller's report that there was no
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there there, that there was a trumped up situation, and
they're going to get to the bottom of it. And
if I were Adam Shift and others who were involved
in that effort, I would not be sitting well tonight.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
And maybe that's a good thing. Her book comes out
two weeks from tomorrow. I might add on Tuesday, March eleventh.
It's entitled Fool's Gold The radicals, con artists and traders
who killed the California Dream and now threaten us all.
We'll get to that in just a moment. Susan Crabtree,
our guests follow her on X by that very handle,
and Susan, there's a little morsel and what you just
said that might answer this next question, but I like
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you to expand on it because you and I have
had this conversation about Dan Bongino, and in the wake
of that assassination attempt, and as diligent as you were
in your reporting, that is how determined that Dan Bongino
was to find answers because this was a failure of
a catastrophic level that almost results in the death of
a former president presidential candidate of the highest order, and
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Bongino as a former Secret Service member, I mean he
took that personally. My question then, is why this position
as deputy FBI director and not as Secret Service director
for Donald Trump for his security detail. We know that
they went with Sean Current instead. And further that point
your reporting shared with us was that Dan had made
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a recommendation, it was not heated, and they hired Sean instead,
so it seemed like there might be some kind of
out of phase communication between Bongino and the Trump team.
This appointment says otherwise. But as you break it down,
I'm asking for your informed opinion here. Why did Dan
Bongino go for the deputy director of FBI role rather
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than the leader of the Secret Service, for which I
think he would have been eminently qualified as well well.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
In some ways, I think the deputy director role is
even more important than the Secret Service and will have
some impact on the Secret Service. And I can explain
that in a bit. But first, Yeah, after the Trump
victory in November, there was lots of speculation, because he
had been so adamant and because of his twelve years
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of experiencing the Secret Service adamant about the assassination, had
been getting to the bottom of it, that Dan Bongino
would be a logical choice to head the Secret Service.
I think that Trump had other plans for him that
he wanted to lay out in due time, and they
first had to get their initial team in place and
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then have Dan basically as the dynamic duo of the
Robin too. The cash retails of Batman and so I
feel like that was all of coming into place. Dan
didn't understand it. He expressed concern about Schankaran's appointment, even
though he is good friends with Sean and they serve
together in Moscow for a certain stint back in the
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early two thousands, so they are friends. But he's still
had some deep concerns and he has some concerns that
he still has expressed over time on his podcast in
recent weeks. But the Treasury Department, the Secret Service used
to be part of the Treasury Department. There's an effort
to bring it back to Treasury, but actually Dan Bungino
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believes it's all the investigative work having to do with
financial crimes, counterfeiting and other types of skimming operations should
be divested from the Secret Service and put back into
the FBI, or not to Treasury, to the FBI because
it's duplicative of some of the FBI's work, including child trafficking.
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A lot of people don't know that the Secret Service
does some child trafficking investigations too, does the FBI. So
I foresee that Dan will play a role in taking
the investigations out away from the Secret Service and having
them solely be focused on their protective mission keeping the President,
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his family, the Vice president, their family is the cabinet
members alive under a dire dire threats that we know
about ongoing threats for an and domestic, So that will
be part of his goal, and I do think that
he will. His friendship with Sean could help fear the
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Secret Service from afar. He'll probably be present in some
of these cabinet meetings with Donald Trump, and and certainly
the Secret Service usually isn't a part of the cabinet meetings,
so at least he'll have some influence there. So yes,
this is it kind of was a head scratcher afterwards,
but Sean was also the lead agent in charge of
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Donald Trump that day in Butler, and I know it
was an emotional experience. So obviously Donald Trump the President
has spoken about this on multiple occasions, and he most
likely promised it to Sean after he viewed Seawan as
saving his life that day. So you know, once you
make that commitment, Donald Trump is extremely loyal. So once
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you make that commitment, I'm not sure he could take
that back on second once you know, Dan expressed some
concerns about that, so you will see what happens the
two I'm hoping can work together to better both agencies
and get them back on the right track.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Sean Curran, for those of you who have seen obviously
the iconic photo of Donald Trump fist in the air,
flag behind, and he is the agent with the sunglasses
that in most of those shots is looking directly into
the camera, and he is now the director of the
Secret Service. So parsing through the details of the structural
arrangement that's in place. You mentioned in the duplicative nature
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of some of these investigations, eliminating those which fits and
doves tails right in nicely with what Doze is trying
to do in eliminating redundancies that could be positions, that
could be types of investigations that are done bringing them
all under one umbrella, to which Dan has spoken about
often on his podcast. But a little bit more as
you are aware of it, Susan, with your knowledge of
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both the Secret Service and the FBI, as to what
the hierarchy is there, what Dan Bongino would have in
terms of power and oversight, is the deputy director of
the FBI. Is that something at which he would have
that level of oversight for the Secret service would that
be built in based on his personal experience and maybe
that's a one off. How would that arrangement look.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Yeah, I don't know if it'll be a formal arrangement.
I think it's just a matter of recommending to the
President to doge to all those involved what he thinks
would be best for services mission and protecting Donald Trump's
life and in the lives of his family members and
the cabinet members. Considering what we're dealing with the wake
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of these assassination attempts, the real the threat is still
there despite what the FBI we had the FBI director
during the inauguration, one of the top FBI officials tell
reporters a week before the inauguration that there are not
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that they're not tracking any current threats against President Trump
or the capital complex. That was just an absurd statement.
It was bizarre and absurd. And the FBI has also
put in a black box all of the information about
Thomas Crooks and his communications before and after, before the
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assassination attempt and in his encrypted apps that these foreign
apps that he had on his multiple phones. Why did
Thomas Krooks have foreign applications for encrypted applications for communication
on his phone. We need to know that we need
to have that cracked wide open. We need far more
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information about Thomas Crooks and Ryan Ruth, even though we
know more because Ryan Rupe was on social media, but
we want to know if they really truly did act
alone or if there were others involved. And you know,
the trust in the FBI as of the election was
not great, was just had disintegrated, and so I would
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love to make sure. I think that this new leadership
will ensure that we get real answers about those assassination attempts.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Real answers also offered up in her book Fools Gold Susan,
which you co authored with Jed McPhatter. Fool's Gold the radicals,
con artists and traders who killed the California Dream and
now threaten us all. We'd like to have that California
dream back. It might be unattainable, at least it feels
so right now. But just tell our listeners about the book.
It comes out in two weeks and what was your
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primary impetus for writing it.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Well, I moved to California, a native California in twenty seventeen,
and what I experienced was just the reverse of what
we call the reverse gold Rush. People are leaving here
in drugs. I don't want to be one of them.
I think it's one of the most beautiful states. I
grew up here. My dad was Air Force and Air
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Force officer, and my mom was a teacher. We managed
quite well in as a middle class, the members of
middle class in California in the nineteen eighties and nineteen nineties.
But now those dreams, that California dream has sort of
been stripped away. I'm having trouble. There's so it's all
the costs of living in California are the highest in
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the nation. You talk about gas prices, utility rates, insurance rates,
housing prices, they're all at the top. And it's it's
because of growth management. And we've seen that on display
with the wildfires. I wrote the book before the wildfires, uh,
and I wrote a whole chapter about the problem. Why
do we have a wildfire season every season? And Kevinnison says,
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it's we're not going to call it a season anymore.
We're going to call it a wildfire year. That is ridiculous.
This is the third world type of policies that are
leading to this devastation that California families are facing, and uh,
there are there's so much to talk about about the
book because it goes into the homeless problem, Uh, just
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the crime, what caused the crime, the gas gone, the
terrible uh policy, soft on crime policies from some of
the prosecutors, the government prosecutors that at least LA had
rejected Gascon's re elections. So you have a new person
in town, and there's changes up in San Francisco as well,
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but the state needs to be confronted by this corruption.
And I worked with Jed mcpatter, who's the top researcher
director for Peter Schweizer and his Government Accountability Institute, which
is an investigative nonprofit that looks into a lot of
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well a lot of corruption across the government, the US government,
but also the influence of China at our federal level
and also now at the state level in California. Basically
how Governor Newsom has pulled out the state to China.
And we have a lot of great revelations along those
lines that Jed was able to unearth with his amazing document, diving.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
So many layers to this, and we'll talk more in
detail about the book as it is released in two weeks,
and no doubt Susan will have you back on to
discuss it.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
Then.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Fools Gold, the radicals, con artists and traders who killed
the California Dream and now threaten us all available for
pre order on Amazon. You can follow her on x
at Susan Crabtree, National political correspondent for Real Clear Politics. Susan,
great stuff. As always, thank you so much for your
time and best of luck with the book.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
I'm so thankful, thank you for your interest and on
all your priorities. Appreciate it so much.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Yes, Susan Crabtree right there, one of the best, and
Dan Pongino endorsed, as she says, that means so much
to her that Dan was so supportive of her reporting
and it has taken off and for good reason. There
is no one who is her equal when it comes
to the inside sourcing that she has with a secret service,
and now certainly that'll be the case with the FBI.
So stay around for Susan Crabtree coming on this program
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with exclusive information along those lines. We are so grateful
to have her, grateful to have you along for the
ride as well. Your texts five, seven, seven, three nine.
Darcy Shaning is running for Colorado GOP chair. She joined
me on Saturday at the log Cabin Republicans annual meeting.
Was one of the featured speakers years along with yours truly,
and she joins me next here, I'm Ryan Schuling Live.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
My show had value and that.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
I'm sorry that.
Speaker 6 (20:19):
What I was doing.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Value have value.
Speaker 5 (20:23):
And in the end, I'm I'm not I trying not
to cry on TV, and I say, this is kind
of like me on TV. So I apologize and then
and then it kind.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Of and then it mattered? Did it though? Did it matter?
Did it have value? Joy reads blatant lies and race
spading and inflammatory rhetoric. Did it have value? Well, let's
give her a chance. She goes on further in this
video to explain, you know, anless she was feeling about
her show mattering and having value. Let Kelly and Zach
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be the judge and you at home as well.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
And so what I will just say is that in
the end they thank you. Where I land is that
the moment that I've of guilt, that I felt that
I went hard on so many issues, whether it was
the Black Lives matter issues of a young baby or
a mom or dad that was killed, or when we
(21:19):
opened up people's eyes to the fact that Asian Americans
were being targeted and not just black folks.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
That you mean targeted by the likes of the left
that were trying to lump Asian American students in with
white students, calling them white so that they wouldn't get
certain points on their applications, that they would be downgraded
and admitted in fewer numbers to Ivy League schools and
other public universities across this landscape. Is that what you
mean in targeting Asian Americans? Joy read or went hard.
Speaker 5 (21:47):
For immigrants who've done nothing but come to this country,
like my parents did.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Did they come here legally? Joy, I imagine that they did.
My mom was an immigrant, she came here legally. She
was too, so she didn't know what's going on. But
her parents each came here legally from the former Yugoslavia
to escape a communist dictator Tito. Were granted that asylum
by Harry S. Truman, President of the United States, had
a sponsor, had to learn English, had to assimilate to
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our culture, had to become citizens of the United States,
have gainful employment, They did all that, they filled out
all the paperwork, they went through the process. They got
here legally. I have no time, no quarter, no patience
for people who come here illegally and then expect to
be allowed to stay here. Nope, you done got found out.
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Go back and try again and come here legally. Why
didn't you come here legally the first time? Everybody's got
a sob story. My grandparents did too, but they went
through the proper channels and they got here legally, as
I imagine Joy Reid's parents and family did as well.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
And try to make a life and defended them, or
whether we've talked about what the as it is doing
that is subversive to the constitution, that is injurious to
our liberty.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Okay, so that was bad. I pointed out a couple
of the bad parts. But could it get worse? The answer,
it's joy read. Of course it could get.
Speaker 5 (23:14):
Worse defending books that people find inconvenient. You know that
Nicole Hanna Jones put into our spirit that we need
to understand sixteen nineteen as the real founding of this country.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
No. Seventeen seventy six is the founding of this country?
You absolute moron, sixteen nineteen is inflammatory racial rhetoric, baiting
designed to sell books and courses and faculty positions and
board positions on the New York Times, et cetera. It
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was all a grift, That's all that ever was. And
as far as defending inconvenient books, here are the books
that we on the right want to ban, the ones
that talk about sexual behavior with not only adolescents, but
before that, elementary grade students, gay sex, etc. In books
depicting it with pictorial examples. Yeah, we want those out
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of school libraries. Here are two books that the left
wants to ban from people reading youngsters reading in middle
school and high school, The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn To
Kill a Mockingbird. The left wants to ban those books.
They're the book banners, not the Republicans, not conservatives. Whether
it's talking.
Speaker 5 (24:27):
About any of these issues, and yes, whether it's talking
about Gaza and the fact that we as the American people.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Have a right to object, to have a right to.
Speaker 5 (24:38):
Object to little babies being bombed, and where I come
down on that is, I'm not sorry. I am not
sorry that I stood up for those those things because
those things are of God, and you know. I'm a
churchy girl too, and those are the things that I
was taught were of God.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
And so I'm sorry.
Speaker 5 (25:01):
I'm just proud of my show.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Now, I'm sad to report that Joy Reid hails from
around these parts in Denver, Colorado. She is talking about
little babies being bond in Gazo. You mean the ones
who were used as human shields by Hamas in hospitals, schools,
and mosques, and observe that there's no mention of babies,
literal babies. Ariel and Kafir Bebus strangled to death as
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hostages held by Hamas on what grounds? Hamas reported that
they were arrested, arrested for what being Jewish babies, no
mention of that. It's a vile person. She should never
work in media again. She should not be welcome in
polite society. But we know that the left somewhere is
going to embrace her.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Well.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Our next guest is on the opposite end of the
spectrum from Joy Reid, a very credible member of our
own Colorado Republican Party and she's looking to become the
chair of it. I had the pleasure of meeting her
on Saturday at the annual meeting of the Log Cabin
Republicans where she was a featured speaker along with me.
She's Darcy Shaning and she joined us on Ryan Shuling Live. Darcy,
thank you for your time.
Speaker 6 (26:08):
Thanks for having me Ryan.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
I was so great meeting you on Saturday. And as
I said in my presentation, I think it was so
important that you were there. You showed up, and that
speaks volumes about where the Republican Party is heading and
where you intend to take it. If you are fortunate
enough to become the chair, where would you take it
from here? What would you change? And why was it
important for you to attend the Log Cabin Republican's annual meeting. Sure?
Speaker 6 (26:34):
So, okay, I go way back with Log Cabin Republicans
because I'm close friends with the Vice President, but also
because you know, I've got a family member who is LGBTQ,
tons of friends, and so it's always been really important
to me to embrace Republicans of all backgrounds that just
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love freedom, that just want to help us, that just
want to have limited government, and those guys that Log
Cabin Republicans worked so hard, and you know, it's hard
to be a gay Republican let's be honest. They get
stuff thrown at them at the parade, So it's always
important to me to show up for the people that
show up for us and I from here on out
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with the party, I just want to keep doing what
I've been doing, which is, you know, building bridges and
identifying where we can flip seats, where we can fundraise.
I've been working with donors for.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
A build our.
Speaker 6 (27:33):
Benches initiative, which is raising We're at about two hundred
thousand dollars in funds raised for the twenty twenty five
school board elections. So I just want to bring everybody
together to do the work that needs to be done
to flip Colorado red again.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
She is the current Director of Special Initiatives for the
Colorado GOP. Darcy Shaning our guest. A couple of things
that you've illuminated to me, Darcy, is that at great
pain and personal sacrifice to yourself, you're putting yourself out there.
We're talking boots on the ground, knocking doors, doing the
work that needs to be done. But you mentioned the
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log camera Republicans having things thrown at them in the parade.
You also casually mentioned and I think it maybe deserves
a little bit more detail yourself being physically assaulted, just
trying to do this job of going out and getting
the word out.
Speaker 6 (28:26):
Oh yeah, that was outside the eleven there was a protest.
We were there to support the board and writing a
policy against student tonouns, and one of the lasties across
the aisle on the stairs just punched me in the face.
It was a bigger lady, and it was a little startling,
but I mean at the time I just had to
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keep going. But the guy next to me, he was
in tears.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
He's like, you just got punched.
Speaker 6 (28:53):
In the face, And I was like, well, I mean,
then you know what I'm doing something right. If they're
that angry, then that means like I'm making event in
their plans.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
She can take a punch, and we have to understand
that it's going to take more of that what Darcy's
willing to do and what anybody is going to have
to be able to do in the chair position the
Colorado Republican Party. You talked about this on Saturday to Darcy.
I mean, there are no illusions. It's an uphill climb here,
and we didn't get here overnight, and it probably isn't
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going to change overnight. But the little things that you're
paying particular attention to to get us back on the
path to winning, they matter. They add up. And where
do you think the tipping point will be for our
current version of the Republican Party, whether it's the upcoming
school board elections or the twenty twenty six mid terms.
What is your plan for these next two years should
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you ascend to the chair.
Speaker 6 (29:47):
Well, the school board elections are going to be critical
because the schoolboard elections. First of all, we've got to
protect our children, number one. But aside from that, it's
going to show you know, who can we bring together,
how we create an infrastructure and processes and have on
point data to flip seats. So we're going to use
the school board elections to do that, and we're going
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to bring the donors together to raise significant funding for
the candidates that really really need it in those critical seats.
But furthermore, those twenty twenty five school board elections are
going to show the donors and they're going to show
the unaffiliated what the Republican Party can do when we
work together as a united front, and if we can
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flip some seats in the school board elections and work
together as a party to do so. Then we're going
to have one thousand percent more donor continents rolling into
twenty twenty six as well. So it's for so many reasons,
the tipping point is going to be these twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
School board elections.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Darcy Saning our guest, one of the candidates for the
Colorado Republican Party chair upcoming, Darcy, real, quick question as
to when this will be decided, how it is decided,
who gets to vote on it, and if there are
listeners out here who want to help you to get
to the chair, how they can do that.
Speaker 6 (31:05):
Sure, So the meeting will be the last weekend in March.
I'm still not positive of the exact time, but it
should be that Saturday or that Sunday morning. And so
we've only got five weeks left. And the voting members
for those who don't know, it's just the state Central Committee.
So that's the elected county leadership, so county GOP chair,
(31:30):
vice chair, secretary, and then bonus members who vote. Oh,
and then elected officials state state elected officials can also vote.
And so if you would like to help my campaign,
we can use all the help that you want to
throw at us, whether it's making calls or sending out
mailers or texts, but just send me a text or
(31:52):
contact me on Twitter at Darcy Barqui the number four
and then coo. We're going to need a lot of help,
not build our benches initiative, to keep the money you know,
coming in, and to really solidify that school board and
school board racist initiative.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
So yeah, reach out.
Speaker 6 (32:10):
We can use all hands on deck, and that's what
it's going to take, not only for my race, but
to take our school board elections and then our twenty
twenty sixth elections.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
Darcy, as we talked about earlier, you are a fighter.
You're in the arena, you're doing the work, and I
do it in this show and then also online. I
know how it gets out there in the social media sphere,
et cetera. You don't back down from a fight. You're
very combative, and you've had that attitude and that energy
kind of at a high level. Would you continue that
(32:39):
as chair the Republican Party or would you be looking
maybe to temper your message a bit.
Speaker 6 (32:45):
You know, that's an interesting question. So it's important that
we have a leader who's a doer, which I am,
but it's also important that we have a leader. But
it's not going to back down and say, oh, well,
you know what, the last is calling me a bigot today,
so we better change course.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
We better just totally change course.
Speaker 6 (33:02):
We can't have that type of weakness. We can't allow
ourselves to be browbeaten by censorship and all the other
things that the LUCK does. So I would say that
there are times where my message is really aggressive, if
there are even times, look, I'll be humble where I'll say, Ryan,
I could have worded things better, I could have said
things better. I could have said I could have done
(33:23):
things a lot better. But part of being a leader
is knowing that you're not always the smartest person in
the room, and it takes a team to move mountains.
So one of the things that I think is really
important is that my message, while it would be the
State GOP's message, there would be a team of people
kind of putting their eyes on these communications and offering
(33:46):
diverse backgrounds that they bring to the party to say,
is our messaging on point? How can we do better?
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Follow her for more on ex at Darcy the Number
four COO Darcy Shaning our guest, one of two currently
declared candidates. But as we talked about on Saturday, Darcy,
there will be more between now and like you said
the end of March, appreciate your time today. It was
great meeting you on Saturday, and I'm sure we'll have
many more conversations going forward.
Speaker 6 (34:11):
Thank you so much, Ryan, thank you for your time,
and thank you for.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
All you do.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Absolutely, Darcy Shaning right there, your response, your reaction five seven,
seven thirty nine, wrapping it all up after this on
Ryan Schuling Live. Yes, indeed sprinting to the finish. Wow,
we were jam packed today. I hope you enjoyed it.
I know I did. I learned a lot today. I
try to go into these shows and educate myself on issues,
(34:38):
and simply having the guests that we did really illuminated me.
In particularly Alison Browner. If you'd missed that in interview
from the first hour, I implore you to listen to
the podcast that I'll be posting those later today. And
that had to do with the grooming scandal, and it's
already up. He says, Wow, thank you, Zach. Wow, that's incredible.
(34:59):
That's the the Columbine High school grooming scandal and really
no repercussions there, at least not yet. Ryan, I'm an
SSCC member. Where does Darcy stand on the primary opener close?
It's a great question. I'm sorry I didn't ask it,
and I'm sorry I'm just seeing this now, but I
did shoot her a text, text her and when she
texts back, I'll reply to your text. And that might
(35:22):
have to be tomorrow because we're running out of time
right here. Another Texter at five seven seven three nine
says Jeffco' schools would be a great place for the
Republicans to financially support candidates. Dan makes this point a lot.
He's right, there would have to be a demonstration that
a Republican can win. If Republicans join that race and
it's showing that maybe they have a chance at winning,
that money will come in. But you're right, that has
(35:42):
to be a number one target. If it's Darcy, if
it's britt A Horn, whoever's running the Colorado Republican Party.
We need to flip those school districts, and those elections
are coming up this fall. That's it for me. Stay tuned.
Hidi ganal In for Dan next.
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Speaker 2 (00:54):
Dan Bongino on his podcast earlier today were for the
first time publicly he commented on the fact that the
news was released over the weekend on Sunday that Bongina
would be the new deputy director of the Federal Bureau
of Investigation. What a one two punch cash Ptel gets
confirmed as the FBI director and then not long after that,
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Dan Bongino is foregoing a big career that he has
established and carved out for himself with his own podcasts.
This is after you might recall as well Fox News
they didn't agree to terms parted ways. A lot of
people thought Dan might not be able to land on
his feet, but he certainly has. He has one of
the most listened to, watched podcasts on Rumble in real
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a virtual empire and he will be putting all of
that on hold to serve this country and joining us now.
She covers the inside for real clear politics, including the
FBI and the Secret Service. We'll talk about both here
in our conversation today, Susan Crabtree and you can follow
(02:00):
her on x by that same handle. Joined us on
Ryan Shuling Live. Susan, welcome back.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Well, thanks for having me. Grate to be back with you.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Rin absolutely, I always enjoy our conversations and just your
first reaction to one the news that Dan Bongino would
be appointed to that post, and to his reaction as
he articulated it today.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Well, if anyone thought that there would be any hesitation
about cleaning house at the FBI and restoring American trust
in this institution that is safeguarding our safety and against
terrorism and other domestic threats. I think you should put
that to rest with this new appointment. It does not
(02:43):
have to do through Senate confirmation. He just have to
ready himself divest from his media empire. As you noted,
it's successful career. He I just think that it's going
to be a dynamic duel over at the FBI with
Cash Hotel in the lead and Dan Bongino. He is
(03:04):
certainly not one to be shy about his passions and
his beliefs, and he was very articulate others somewhat emotional
this morning on his podcast, saying that, you know, he
truly believes this is a great honor, the honor of
a lifetime, he called it, even though it's sort of
this a real moment where he's leaving this media commentating
(03:29):
position that he built up over the last decade.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Yeah, and he talked about how he struggled with the decision,
not just for the opportunity, I mean that was a
no brainer. He wants to serve this country, but what
he would have to leave behind and what it meant
for him from a personal standpoint, a professional standpoint, to
sacrifice to move. His family's involved in this decision, Paula,
his wife, where it's very closely with everything that he's built.
Of course, he's got everybody that he employs on the
(03:55):
podcast itself, and he talks about making that decision right here.
It's been hard than I thought. I didn't plan on this.
I didn't plan on a lot of things.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
But I want you to know it is the honor
of my lifetime, and I hope I'm making a plea
to you all personally. I hope you're not angry or
upset at me for making this decision. I knew it
was the right thing to do, but there is a
big cost, and I understand that there's a chance when
(04:29):
the mission's over that you guys all disappear and go
somewhere else.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
I'm not gonna lie to he It's been on my
mind for a long time.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
I hope not. I love you guys, but this is
a mission.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
I can't say no. One of the strongest endorsements of you, Susan,
why I'm always so thrilled to have you on this
show is that Dan Bongino thinks so highly of you
and your work. Any singer praises effusively on his program.
But the thing that I notice, and you might know
him a little bit better than I do about himself,
is that he's very reluctant to take credit. He is
(05:07):
devoid in large part of the kind of ego you
might assign to somebody in his position. He is humble,
I would say, almost to a fault, and he's humbly
asking his audience not to be mad at him because
he made this decision. I think this just makes Dan
a very special figure in this space. What say you, yes?
Speaker 3 (05:27):
I think I am honored that he respects my reporting.
We both have overlapping sources in the super Service, so
he knows that I have been cultivating those sources over
the course of fourteen years. So this is not just
a one off that when Donald Trump had the assassination
(05:49):
attempt against him and Butler, my sources started overflowing with
information to me, and I took it extremely seriously to
the responsibility that I helped with that information. I had
to get it out in a timely manner. And he
appreciates that. He's done nothing but helped me disseminate my
(06:12):
information in a very forthright way, helped me on social
media to amplify my reporting. I feel like he's just
a very straightforward, he's, you know, take no prisoner's kind
of guy. He means what he says, does what he means,
and he is going to clean up help clean up
(06:34):
the cigaret service. They're very good friends seeing Cash Betel,
and they share this passion for getting to the bottom
of some of these political witch hunts against the president
that have eroded the trust in the FBI among a
large segment of American people. And we need that trust
restored because the FBI, certainly they had the power to
(06:56):
surveil every American and they have abuse that in the past,
as when it came to the Russian hoax, the Donald
Trump investigation into whether Russia was colluding with the Trump campaign.
Obviously we saw Robert Muller's report that there was no
(07:16):
there there, that there was a trumped up situation, and
they're going to get to the bottom of it. And
if I were Adam Shift and others who were involved
in that effort, I would not be sitting well tonight.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
And maybe that's a good thing. Her book comes out
two weeks from tomorrow. I might add on Tuesday, March eleventh.
It's entitled Fool's Gold The radicals, con artists and traders
who killed the California Dream and now threaten us all.
We'll get to that in just a moment. Susan Crabtree,
our guests follow her on X by that very handle,
and Susan, there's a little morsel and what you just
said that might answer this next question, but I like
(07:51):
you to expand on it because you and I have
had this conversation about Dan Bongino, and in the wake
of that assassination attempt, and as diligent as you were
in your reporting, that is how determined that Dan Bongino
was to find answers because this was a failure of
a catastrophic level that almost results in the death of
a former president presidential candidate of the highest order, and
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Bongino as a former Secret Service member, I mean he
took that personally. My question then, is why this position
as deputy FBI director and not as Secret Service director
for Donald Trump for his security detail. We know that
they went with Sean Current instead. And further that point
your reporting shared with us was that Dan had made
(08:36):
a recommendation, it was not heated, and they hired Sean instead,
so it seemed like there might be some kind of
out of phase communication between Bongino and the Trump team.
This appointment says otherwise. But as you break it down,
I'm asking for your informed opinion here. Why did Dan
Bongino go for the deputy director of FBI role rather
(08:58):
than the leader of the Secret Service, for which I
think he would have been eminently qualified as well well.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
In some ways, I think the deputy director role is
even more important than the Secret Service and will have
some impact on the Secret Service. And I can explain
that in a bit. But first, Yeah, after the Trump
victory in November, there was lots of speculation, because he
had been so adamant and because of his twelve years
(09:24):
of experiencing the Secret Service adamant about the assassination, had
been getting to the bottom of it, that Dan Bongino
would be a logical choice to head the Secret Service.
I think that Trump had other plans for him that
he wanted to lay out in due time, and they
first had to get their initial team in place and
(09:46):
then have Dan basically as the dynamic duo of the
Robin too. The cash retails of Batman and so I
feel like that was all of coming into place. Dan
didn't understand it. He expressed concern about Schankaran's appointment, even
though he is good friends with Sean and they serve
together in Moscow for a certain stint back in the
(10:10):
early two thousands, so they are friends. But he's still
had some deep concerns and he has some concerns that
he still has expressed over time on his podcast in
recent weeks. But the Treasury Department, the Secret Service used
to be part of the Treasury Department. There's an effort
to bring it back to Treasury, but actually Dan Bungino
(10:33):
believes it's all the investigative work having to do with
financial crimes, counterfeiting and other types of skimming operations should
be divested from the Secret Service and put back into
the FBI, or not to Treasury, to the FBI because
it's duplicative of some of the FBI's work, including child trafficking.
(10:55):
A lot of people don't know that the Secret Service
does some child trafficking investigations too, does the FBI. So
I foresee that Dan will play a role in taking
the investigations out away from the Secret Service and having
them solely be focused on their protective mission keeping the President,
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his family, the Vice president, their family is the cabinet
members alive under a dire dire threats that we know
about ongoing threats for an and domestic, So that will
be part of his goal, and I do think that
he will. His friendship with Sean could help fear the
(11:37):
Secret Service from afar. He'll probably be present in some
of these cabinet meetings with Donald Trump, and and certainly
the Secret Service usually isn't a part of the cabinet meetings,
so at least he'll have some influence there. So yes,
this is it kind of was a head scratcher afterwards,
but Sean was also the lead agent in charge of
(12:01):
Donald Trump that day in Butler, and I know it
was an emotional experience. So obviously Donald Trump the President
has spoken about this on multiple occasions, and he most
likely promised it to Sean after he viewed Seawan as
saving his life that day. So you know, once you
make that commitment, Donald Trump is extremely loyal. So once
(12:24):
you make that commitment, I'm not sure he could take
that back on second once you know, Dan expressed some
concerns about that, so you will see what happens the
two I'm hoping can work together to better both agencies
and get them back on the right track.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Sean Curran, for those of you who have seen obviously
the iconic photo of Donald Trump fist in the air,
flag behind, and he is the agent with the sunglasses
that in most of those shots is looking directly into
the camera, and he is now the director of the
Secret Service. So parsing through the details of the structural
arrangement that's in place. You mentioned in the duplicative nature
(13:01):
of some of these investigations, eliminating those which fits and
doves tails right in nicely with what Doze is trying
to do in eliminating redundancies that could be positions, that
could be types of investigations that are done bringing them
all under one umbrella, to which Dan has spoken about
often on his podcast. But a little bit more as
you are aware of it, Susan, with your knowledge of
(13:23):
both the Secret Service and the FBI, as to what
the hierarchy is there, what Dan Bongino would have in
terms of power and oversight, is the deputy director of
the FBI. Is that something at which he would have
that level of oversight for the Secret service would that
be built in based on his personal experience and maybe
that's a one off. How would that arrangement look.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Yeah, I don't know if it'll be a formal arrangement.
I think it's just a matter of recommending to the
President to doge to all those involved what he thinks
would be best for services mission and protecting Donald Trump's
life and in the lives of his family members and
the cabinet members. Considering what we're dealing with the wake
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of these assassination attempts, the real the threat is still
there despite what the FBI we had the FBI director
during the inauguration, one of the top FBI officials tell
reporters a week before the inauguration that there are not
(14:30):
that they're not tracking any current threats against President Trump
or the capital complex. That was just an absurd statement.
It was bizarre and absurd. And the FBI has also
put in a black box all of the information about
Thomas Crooks and his communications before and after, before the
(14:52):
assassination attempt and in his encrypted apps that these foreign
apps that he had on his multiple phones. Why did
Thomas Krooks have foreign applications for encrypted applications for communication
on his phone. We need to know that we need
to have that cracked wide open. We need far more
(15:13):
information about Thomas Crooks and Ryan Ruth, even though we
know more because Ryan Rupe was on social media, but
we want to know if they really truly did act
alone or if there were others involved. And you know,
the trust in the FBI as of the election was
not great, was just had disintegrated, and so I would
(15:37):
love to make sure. I think that this new leadership
will ensure that we get real answers about those assassination attempts.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Real answers also offered up in her book Fools Gold Susan,
which you co authored with Jed McPhatter. Fool's Gold the radicals,
con artists and traders who killed the California Dream and
now threaten us all. We'd like to have that California
dream back. It might be unattainable, at least it feels
so right now. But just tell our listeners about the book.
It comes out in two weeks and what was your
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primary impetus for writing it.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Well, I moved to California, a native California in twenty seventeen,
and what I experienced was just the reverse of what
we call the reverse gold Rush. People are leaving here
in drugs. I don't want to be one of them.
I think it's one of the most beautiful states. I
grew up here. My dad was Air Force and Air
(16:30):
Force officer, and my mom was a teacher. We managed
quite well in as a middle class, the members of
middle class in California in the nineteen eighties and nineteen nineties.
But now those dreams, that California dream has sort of
been stripped away. I'm having trouble. There's so it's all
the costs of living in California are the highest in
(16:55):
the nation. You talk about gas prices, utility rates, insurance rates,
housing prices, they're all at the top. And it's it's
because of growth management. And we've seen that on display
with the wildfires. I wrote the book before the wildfires, uh,
and I wrote a whole chapter about the problem. Why
do we have a wildfire season every season? And Kevinnison says,
(17:20):
it's we're not going to call it a season anymore.
We're going to call it a wildfire year. That is ridiculous.
This is the third world type of policies that are
leading to this devastation that California families are facing, and uh,
there are there's so much to talk about about the
book because it goes into the homeless problem, Uh, just
(17:41):
the crime, what caused the crime, the gas gone, the
terrible uh policy, soft on crime policies from some of
the prosecutors, the government prosecutors that at least LA had
rejected Gascon's re elections. So you have a new person
in town, and there's changes up in San Francisco as well,
(18:03):
but the state needs to be confronted by this corruption.
And I worked with Jed mcpatter, who's the top researcher
director for Peter Schweizer and his Government Accountability Institute, which
is an investigative nonprofit that looks into a lot of
(18:23):
well a lot of corruption across the government, the US government,
but also the influence of China at our federal level
and also now at the state level in California. Basically
how Governor Newsom has pulled out the state to China.
And we have a lot of great revelations along those
lines that Jed was able to unearth with his amazing document, diving.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
So many layers to this, and we'll talk more in
detail about the book as it is released in two weeks,
and no doubt Susan will have you back on to
discuss it.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
Then.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Fools Gold, the radicals, con artists and traders who killed
the California Dream and now threaten us all available for
pre order on Amazon. You can follow her on x
at Susan Crabtree, National political correspondent for Real Clear Politics. Susan,
great stuff. As always, thank you so much for your
time and best of luck with the book.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
I'm so thankful, thank you for your interest and on
all your priorities. Appreciate it so much.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Yes, Susan Crabtree right there, one of the best, and
Dan Pongino endorsed, as she says, that means so much
to her that Dan was so supportive of her reporting
and it has taken off and for good reason. There
is no one who is her equal when it comes
to the inside sourcing that she has with a secret service,
and now certainly that'll be the case with the FBI.
So stay around for Susan Crabtree coming on this program
(19:42):
with exclusive information along those lines. We are so grateful
to have her, grateful to have you along for the
ride as well. Your texts five, seven, seven, three nine.
Darcy Shaning is running for Colorado GOP chair. She joined
me on Saturday at the log Cabin Republicans annual meeting.
Was one of the featured speakers years along with yours truly,
and she joins me next here, I'm Ryan Schuling Live.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
My show had value and that.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
I'm sorry that.
Speaker 6 (20:19):
What I was doing.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Value have value.
Speaker 5 (20:23):
And in the end, I'm I'm not I trying not
to cry on TV, and I say, this is kind
of like me on TV. So I apologize and then
and then it kind.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Of and then it mattered? Did it though? Did it matter?
Did it have value? Joy reads blatant lies and race
spading and inflammatory rhetoric. Did it have value? Well, let's
give her a chance. She goes on further in this
video to explain, you know, anless she was feeling about
her show mattering and having value. Let Kelly and Zach
(20:53):
be the judge and you at home as well.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
And so what I will just say is that in
the end they thank you. Where I land is that
the moment that I've of guilt, that I felt that
I went hard on so many issues, whether it was
the Black Lives matter issues of a young baby or
a mom or dad that was killed, or when we
(21:19):
opened up people's eyes to the fact that Asian Americans
were being targeted and not just black folks.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
That you mean targeted by the likes of the left
that were trying to lump Asian American students in with
white students, calling them white so that they wouldn't get
certain points on their applications, that they would be downgraded
and admitted in fewer numbers to Ivy League schools and
other public universities across this landscape. Is that what you
mean in targeting Asian Americans? Joy read or went hard.
Speaker 5 (21:47):
For immigrants who've done nothing but come to this country,
like my parents did.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Did they come here legally? Joy, I imagine that they did.
My mom was an immigrant, she came here legally. She
was too, so she didn't know what's going on. But
her parents each came here legally from the former Yugoslavia
to escape a communist dictator Tito. Were granted that asylum
by Harry S. Truman, President of the United States, had
a sponsor, had to learn English, had to assimilate to
(22:13):
our culture, had to become citizens of the United States,
have gainful employment, They did all that, they filled out
all the paperwork, they went through the process. They got
here legally. I have no time, no quarter, no patience
for people who come here illegally and then expect to
be allowed to stay here. Nope, you done got found out.
(22:36):
Go back and try again and come here legally. Why
didn't you come here legally the first time? Everybody's got
a sob story. My grandparents did too, but they went
through the proper channels and they got here legally, as
I imagine Joy Reid's parents and family did as well.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
And try to make a life and defended them, or
whether we've talked about what the as it is doing
that is subversive to the constitution, that is injurious to
our liberty.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Okay, so that was bad. I pointed out a couple
of the bad parts. But could it get worse? The answer,
it's joy read. Of course it could get.
Speaker 5 (23:14):
Worse defending books that people find inconvenient. You know that
Nicole Hanna Jones put into our spirit that we need
to understand sixteen nineteen as the real founding of this country.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
No. Seventeen seventy six is the founding of this country?
You absolute moron, sixteen nineteen is inflammatory racial rhetoric, baiting
designed to sell books and courses and faculty positions and
board positions on the New York Times, et cetera. It
(23:46):
was all a grift, That's all that ever was. And
as far as defending inconvenient books, here are the books
that we on the right want to ban, the ones
that talk about sexual behavior with not only adolescents, but
before that, elementary grade students, gay sex, etc. In books
depicting it with pictorial examples. Yeah, we want those out
(24:07):
of school libraries. Here are two books that the left
wants to ban from people reading youngsters reading in middle
school and high school, The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn To
Kill a Mockingbird. The left wants to ban those books.
They're the book banners, not the Republicans, not conservatives. Whether
it's talking.
Speaker 5 (24:27):
About any of these issues, and yes, whether it's talking
about Gaza and the fact that we as the American people.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Have a right to object, to have a right to.
Speaker 5 (24:38):
Object to little babies being bombed, and where I come
down on that is, I'm not sorry. I am not
sorry that I stood up for those those things because
those things are of God, and you know. I'm a
churchy girl too, and those are the things that I
was taught were of God.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
And so I'm sorry.
Speaker 5 (25:01):
I'm just proud of my show.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Now, I'm sad to report that Joy Reid hails from
around these parts in Denver, Colorado. She is talking about
little babies being bond in Gazo. You mean the ones
who were used as human shields by Hamas in hospitals, schools,
and mosques, and observe that there's no mention of babies,
literal babies. Ariel and Kafir Bebus strangled to death as
(25:27):
hostages held by Hamas on what grounds? Hamas reported that
they were arrested, arrested for what being Jewish babies, no
mention of that. It's a vile person. She should never
work in media again. She should not be welcome in
polite society. But we know that the left somewhere is
going to embrace her.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Well.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Our next guest is on the opposite end of the
spectrum from Joy Reid, a very credible member of our
own Colorado Republican Party and she's looking to become the
chair of it. I had the pleasure of meeting her
on Saturday at the annual meeting of the Log Cabin
Republicans where she was a featured speaker along with me.
She's Darcy Shaning and she joined us on Ryan Shuling Live. Darcy,
thank you for your time.
Speaker 6 (26:08):
Thanks for having me Ryan.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
I was so great meeting you on Saturday. And as
I said in my presentation, I think it was so
important that you were there. You showed up, and that
speaks volumes about where the Republican Party is heading and
where you intend to take it. If you are fortunate
enough to become the chair, where would you take it
from here? What would you change? And why was it
important for you to attend the Log Cabin Republican's annual meeting. Sure?
Speaker 6 (26:34):
So, okay, I go way back with Log Cabin Republicans
because I'm close friends with the Vice President, but also
because you know, I've got a family member who is LGBTQ,
tons of friends, and so it's always been really important
to me to embrace Republicans of all backgrounds that just
(26:56):
love freedom, that just want to help us, that just
want to have limited government, and those guys that Log
Cabin Republicans worked so hard, and you know, it's hard
to be a gay Republican let's be honest. They get
stuff thrown at them at the parade, So it's always
important to me to show up for the people that
show up for us and I from here on out
(27:18):
with the party, I just want to keep doing what
I've been doing, which is, you know, building bridges and
identifying where we can flip seats, where we can fundraise.
I've been working with donors for.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
A build our.
Speaker 6 (27:33):
Benches initiative, which is raising We're at about two hundred
thousand dollars in funds raised for the twenty twenty five
school board elections. So I just want to bring everybody
together to do the work that needs to be done
to flip Colorado red again.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
She is the current Director of Special Initiatives for the
Colorado GOP. Darcy Shaning our guest. A couple of things
that you've illuminated to me, Darcy, is that at great
pain and personal sacrifice to yourself, you're putting yourself out there.
We're talking boots on the ground, knocking doors, doing the
work that needs to be done. But you mentioned the
(28:12):
log camera Republicans having things thrown at them in the parade.
You also casually mentioned and I think it maybe deserves
a little bit more detail yourself being physically assaulted, just
trying to do this job of going out and getting
the word out.
Speaker 6 (28:26):
Oh yeah, that was outside the eleven there was a protest.
We were there to support the board and writing a
policy against student tonouns, and one of the lasties across
the aisle on the stairs just punched me in the face.
It was a bigger lady, and it was a little startling,
but I mean at the time I just had to
(28:48):
keep going. But the guy next to me, he was
in tears.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
He's like, you just got punched.
Speaker 6 (28:53):
In the face, And I was like, well, I mean,
then you know what I'm doing something right. If they're
that angry, then that means like I'm making event in
their plans.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
She can take a punch, and we have to understand
that it's going to take more of that what Darcy's
willing to do and what anybody is going to have
to be able to do in the chair position the
Colorado Republican Party. You talked about this on Saturday to Darcy.
I mean, there are no illusions. It's an uphill climb here,
and we didn't get here overnight, and it probably isn't
(29:23):
going to change overnight. But the little things that you're
paying particular attention to to get us back on the
path to winning, they matter. They add up. And where
do you think the tipping point will be for our
current version of the Republican Party, whether it's the upcoming
school board elections or the twenty twenty six mid terms.
What is your plan for these next two years should
(29:45):
you ascend to the chair.
Speaker 6 (29:47):
Well, the school board elections are going to be critical
because the schoolboard elections. First of all, we've got to
protect our children, number one. But aside from that, it's
going to show you know, who can we bring together,
how we create an infrastructure and processes and have on
point data to flip seats. So we're going to use
the school board elections to do that, and we're going
(30:09):
to bring the donors together to raise significant funding for
the candidates that really really need it in those critical seats.
But furthermore, those twenty twenty five school board elections are
going to show the donors and they're going to show
the unaffiliated what the Republican Party can do when we
work together as a united front, and if we can
(30:31):
flip some seats in the school board elections and work
together as a party to do so. Then we're going
to have one thousand percent more donor continents rolling into
twenty twenty six as well. So it's for so many reasons,
the tipping point is going to be these twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
School board elections.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Darcy Saning our guest, one of the candidates for the
Colorado Republican Party chair upcoming, Darcy, real, quick question as
to when this will be decided, how it is decided,
who gets to vote on it, and if there are
listeners out here who want to help you to get
to the chair, how they can do that.
Speaker 6 (31:05):
Sure, So the meeting will be the last weekend in March.
I'm still not positive of the exact time, but it
should be that Saturday or that Sunday morning. And so
we've only got five weeks left. And the voting members
for those who don't know, it's just the state Central Committee.
So that's the elected county leadership, so county GOP chair,
(31:30):
vice chair, secretary, and then bonus members who vote. Oh,
and then elected officials state state elected officials can also vote.
And so if you would like to help my campaign,
we can use all the help that you want to
throw at us, whether it's making calls or sending out
mailers or texts, but just send me a text or
(31:52):
contact me on Twitter at Darcy Barqui the number four
and then coo. We're going to need a lot of help,
not build our benches initiative, to keep the money you know,
coming in, and to really solidify that school board and
school board racist initiative.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
So yeah, reach out.
Speaker 6 (32:10):
We can use all hands on deck, and that's what
it's going to take, not only for my race, but
to take our school board elections and then our twenty
twenty sixth elections.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
Darcy, as we talked about earlier, you are a fighter.
You're in the arena, you're doing the work, and I
do it in this show and then also online. I
know how it gets out there in the social media sphere,
et cetera. You don't back down from a fight. You're
very combative, and you've had that attitude and that energy
kind of at a high level. Would you continue that
(32:39):
as chair the Republican Party or would you be looking
maybe to temper your message a bit.
Speaker 6 (32:45):
You know, that's an interesting question. So it's important that
we have a leader who's a doer, which I am,
but it's also important that we have a leader. But
it's not going to back down and say, oh, well,
you know what, the last is calling me a bigot today,
so we better change course.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
We better just totally change course.
Speaker 6 (33:02):
We can't have that type of weakness. We can't allow
ourselves to be browbeaten by censorship and all the other
things that the LUCK does. So I would say that
there are times where my message is really aggressive, if
there are even times, look, I'll be humble where I'll say, Ryan,
I could have worded things better, I could have said
things better. I could have said I could have done
(33:23):
things a lot better. But part of being a leader
is knowing that you're not always the smartest person in
the room, and it takes a team to move mountains.
So one of the things that I think is really
important is that my message, while it would be the
State GOP's message, there would be a team of people
kind of putting their eyes on these communications and offering
(33:46):
diverse backgrounds that they bring to the party to say,
is our messaging on point? How can we do better?
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Follow her for more on ex at Darcy the Number
four COO Darcy Shaning our guest, one of two currently
declared candidates. But as we talked about on Saturday, Darcy,
there will be more between now and like you said
the end of March, appreciate your time today. It was
great meeting you on Saturday, and I'm sure we'll have
many more conversations going forward.
Speaker 6 (34:11):
Thank you so much, Ryan, thank you for your time,
and thank you for.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
All you do.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Absolutely, Darcy Shaning right there, your response, your reaction five seven,
seven thirty nine, wrapping it all up after this on
Ryan Schuling Live. Yes, indeed sprinting to the finish. Wow,
we were jam packed today. I hope you enjoyed it.
I know I did. I learned a lot today. I
try to go into these shows and educate myself on issues,
(34:38):
and simply having the guests that we did really illuminated me.
In particularly Alison Browner. If you'd missed that in interview
from the first hour, I implore you to listen to
the podcast that I'll be posting those later today. And
that had to do with the grooming scandal, and it's
already up. He says, Wow, thank you, Zach. Wow, that's incredible.
(34:59):
That's the the Columbine High school grooming scandal and really
no repercussions there, at least not yet. Ryan, I'm an
SSCC member. Where does Darcy stand on the primary opener close?
It's a great question. I'm sorry I didn't ask it,
and I'm sorry I'm just seeing this now, but I
did shoot her a text, text her and when she
texts back, I'll reply to your text. And that might
(35:22):
have to be tomorrow because we're running out of time
right here. Another Texter at five seven seven three nine
says Jeffco' schools would be a great place for the
Republicans to financially support candidates. Dan makes this point a lot.
He's right, there would have to be a demonstration that
a Republican can win. If Republicans join that race and
it's showing that maybe they have a chance at winning,
that money will come in. But you're right, that has
(35:42):
to be a number one target. If it's Darcy, if
it's britt A Horn, whoever's running the Colorado Republican Party.
We need to flip those school districts, and those elections
are coming up this fall. That's it for me. Stay tuned.
Hidi ganal In for Dan next.
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