November 21, 2025 • 55 mins
In this episode, Brian sits down with prolific Australian author and independent researcher George Mitrovic, whose staggering body of work spans more than 140 published books since 2012. George opens up about his lifelong fascination with mysteries and the unconventional research methods that have shaped his career.
From childhood curiosity to a vast personal archive of data, George shares how his passion led him deep into the study of Bigfoot and other unexplained phenomena. He takes listeners inside some of the most compelling Bigfoot sightings in his collection—including lesser-known international reports and the intriguing “Whistling Patty” encounter.
Throughout the conversation, George emphasizes the importance of following the evidence, resisting preconceived ideas, and letting data build the foundation of any hypothesis. The discussion expands beyond traditional cryptozoology into the cutting edge of theory, touching on quantum physics, multiverse possibilities, and how these concepts might intersect with the Bigfoot mystery.
George also highlights the breadth of his published work, particularly his research on Bigfoot, giants, and global cryptid traditions.
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From childhood curiosity to a vast personal archive of data, George shares how his passion led him deep into the study of Bigfoot and other unexplained phenomena. He takes listeners inside some of the most compelling Bigfoot sightings in his collection—including lesser-known international reports and the intriguing “Whistling Patty” encounter.
Throughout the conversation, George emphasizes the importance of following the evidence, resisting preconceived ideas, and letting data build the foundation of any hypothesis. The discussion expands beyond traditional cryptozoology into the cutting edge of theory, touching on quantum physics, multiverse possibilities, and how these concepts might intersect with the Bigfoot mystery.
George also highlights the breadth of his published work, particularly his research on Bigfoot, giants, and global cryptid traditions.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now one of your pudding. I got a string going
on here, something just because my dog. Something killed your dog.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
My dog.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
We're flying through the air over the tree. I don't
know how it did it, Okay, Damn, I'm really confused.
All I saw was my dog coming over the fence
and he was dead. And once you hit the ground like,
I didn't see any cars. All I saw was my
dog coming over the fence. Sat, what are you putting?
(00:39):
We got some wonder or something crawling around out here?
Did you see what it was or was it was?
Standing enough? I'm out here looking through the window now
and I don't see anything. I don't want to go outside. Jesus,
quice you better or hello? Hit somebody out here when
(01:05):
I'm out there. It's good of a venture about text nine.
I don't know out there? Yeah, I'm walking right ay, I.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Booked on a walk of My guest to the show.
It is author and researcher George Mitrovic, coming from across
the Pond in Australia. Welcome to the show, sir.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Hello, how are you? Would you believe I've forgotten your
name already? I'm tapeless with people's names. I feel like
a big ball run, but I'm used to that. I
just asked to introduce the guy next to me years ago,
and I looked to him as I've got no idea
what your name is. That I'm a brother, you idiot.
Oh okay, that's the way my brain works. And then
you ask me about some by barthrocking every single part
(01:45):
of it. I'm a researcher, an author, and it's raal Blazer.
They've published over one hundred and forty books since twenty
twelve whilst working full time. I'm nearly seventy. I get
into a lot of prophecy with people because I don't
have a hypothesis and charge in and find ways of
proving it. I let the data prove and bring up
(02:09):
whatever hypothesis at wants, and some of them can be
quite start. One of my favorite subjects is our bloved
friend Bigfoot, a sasquatch or Harry Homidd, whatever you want
to call it.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Let's get into that. Let's talk a little bit about Bigfoot.
Let's talk about what got you interested it in the subject.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
To begin with, I've always been interested in strange mysteries,
weird archaeology, stuff like that. My brother was only mentioning
to me other day. They said, I still remember you
dogging on the piano when you were five. I said,
I know, it's horrendous, and I figure I remember wailing
about it at the same time. What five year old
does that. By seven, I was reading the aa Yendi Letters,
(02:50):
which is about the Philadelphia Experiment. I started gathering books
and there was a really good bookshop in the Australia
event called the Ada Bookshop. It's been closed for years now,
and I got some amazing books from there. And one
thing my parents did, they spoiled me rotten with books.
I read the Entact of Peter Britannic and by the
time I was five. But it was helped by the
(03:12):
fact that I was most tatly crippled from a car
accident and couldn't do anything else. I'm fine now apart
from old age. But I think it's what got is
going and looking in every other direction. Most people don't
have a chance to whilst looking through every mystery on Earth.
I don't like mysteries. They annoy me. Every mystery is
(03:32):
a question. Every question needs an answer, and I'll give
you the answer. I met Bigfoot along the way the
American Bigfoot. I met him for Ivan Sanderson's works brilliant
often the founder of cryptozoologies, you would know along with
Burned her Woman's and his book Bequests for the Sea
Serpent was pretty amazing too. And I met Bigfoot and
(03:54):
I met the frozen Minnesota Iceman. Did he exist? They
did not exist? Hang on. I have a books I've
read have mentioned them in China, in Asia and the
Himalayas in South America. I hadn't heard of any in
Australia yet of that time. I's only it's seven or eight,
and I thought, let's look at bigfoots. I've had arguments
(04:18):
with researchers. Since it's big feet, it's not bigfoots, or
it's a bigfoot lural. I've got benefitsative and argue, semantics.
Call it what you want, call it late for dinner.
I really don't care. Just don't call me late for dinner.
You can call me anything else. And they've been called
lots of things. I wanted to know who is Bigfoot?
(04:39):
Who is this large cryptid preacher? And in those days
we only fought of them as wandering up and down
the Great Forest Melts Washington, Iregon, Northern California, so I
started to gathering books. I had these old compositors tables
from printing when they used to use little eyes, and
(05:01):
they each had a slot. Each of those was twenty
four units long, which was eight z or z, and
so everything with a wait in thereb next to it.
It's amazing what you're mass when you start doing a
alphabetic I work on patterns. My brain works on patents.
You can't do anything else. Thank on. Look at what's
(05:22):
happening here. There aren't just big woods in West coast.
They're on the East coast, not that many in the
middle part because there aren't that many trees in the
middle part. This animal's designed to hide amongst big brown trees,
so it looks like a tree. They're built like a tree.
There ain't and a half to nine and a half
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feet tall on average. Amongst sightings, they stink to higher heaven.
On most cases. They generally tend to become carnivores. Where
there is the Coombey ark crowd that says they're vegans
and peaceful, but I'm not sure how many of them
have actually approached one very close. But I'll leave into
their opinions as well. Is this a real creature. So
(06:07):
the advantage of going through thousands of is you sign themes. Yes,
I know, I'm a theme fanatic like you. The most
common theme, the most common theme in North American Bigfoot stories,
and of course North American authors don't bever mentioning it
very much or even regarded as having any significance. From Australia,
(06:31):
we'll write anything. I must remind you every single one
of my books as a bibliography, so you can chase
the paper trayal. These aren't my ideas, this isn't my data.
I'm just getting it for you, preserving it so it's
still here so it doesn't disappear. Simple story. Randy and
Andy young men, public college, late high school, driving around
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at two o'clock in the morning. I may have had
a couple of beers. They may not have had a
couple of beers. They reach that point of the drive
in the woods for the forest, it's time to get
out to relieve themselves. A lovely euphemism. We don't use
that one in Australia, but this is a family program.
Sol sticktivate euphemism. Next second, something is yelling, screaming, jumping, throwing, rocks,
(07:22):
throwing wood, carrying on like a banshee, red eyes blazing,
full height grown, And of course when afropoints get excited,
their first stands out. That looks even bigger. They're saying,
he is pierced off. Complately, Brandy and Andy, mysteriously enough,
have stopped relieving themselves and got back to their car
(07:45):
very quickly. And you say, what's out about. That's just
a bigfoot carrying on. No, that is a bigfoot for
reacting two two homined creatures. Yes, we are hominids urinating
on its territory, which to the bigfoot means I am
faming your territory. It's no longer yours. You try doing
(08:07):
that in the April Monkey House at the zoo. You'll
get the same response. If you go and makes the chimps,
they won't be gentle at all. It won't be just
a stern warning. It'll be God help you, because you'll
need one. So if what that's interesting, that's hormon and
anthropology one O one it's basics for apes and monkeys,
(08:29):
and another little one another common theme. Randy and not Andy,
but Randy and Sheryl are deep in the woods on
a Friday night, it's dark, they're come together for warm
they're obviously studying for very SAPs. What else would they
be doing there? And they're busy doing whatever they're doing
(08:49):
there in the woods away from prying eyes, or so
they sing. The next second, there's his big hairy face
at the windscreen or a side window and tends to
freak out, so does Andy. Next time you see the
monkey cage or the ape page at the zoo or
the ape enclosure, it's what they like watching. It's not
(09:12):
the seven PM news. It's other monkeys doing the way
on thing because it the most natural physical process on earth.
How do you think we are got here? There's no
other technique known. Once again, this is anthropology one oh
one here. And then it's a large territorial animal, very
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territorial animal, very wary of us, because every time we
seem to show up, we're trying to shoot it. So
they've learned the camouflage pretty well. They've learned to stay
away from us. And yet the thousands of reports. I've
just ordered a copy of nine books of mine in
one set, amazing big for the encounters of the United States,
(09:56):
state by states, some of the books having their own
books a state. It's three hundred and thirty one pages.
Someone's ever published. I published it two years ago. That's
a lot of bigfoots. Why is it then in the
United States, and in fact almost anywhere else has seen
on earth? Remember that's Randy and Andy. They've gone back.
(10:18):
They're going to fix this big barment. They're going to
go and get him. And they've got their guns, the
usual little small town American arsenal that you carried. And
they've been shooting squirrels since I'm a knee high to
a grasshopper. And they can shoot a squirrel at one
hundred yards, how can they can't hit a nine and
a half foot tour Harry Harmon at about twenty feet?
(10:40):
Did they suddenly get nervous? Why? How come they did
not hit fun? How come there is no record of
one hanging on a barn wall somewhere. I'm not a
very bright man. I have to give things very simple
to understand them. I've found five reports have shot big foot,
one in Canada in nineteen forty eight. Multiple pages doing
(11:06):
this set of books. I was just mentioning you can
get them on Amazon. In fact, I discovered there are
more bigfoot sightings around Los Angeles, and there are in
northern California, which is interesting. Like most Bigfoot sightings, I
tend to phase out once the trees disappear. Christie not
(11:27):
that finds animals, but there are some reports, but not many.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Being over in Australia. I was over in the United
Kingdom last summer to speak at a conference over there,
and I got out in the woods at a couple
of places out in the Summerset area in the UK.
I was shocked, honestly to see the type of forest
that they have there. They're very similar to what we
(11:52):
deal with. I'm in North Carolina here in the United States.
I've been in the Pacific Northwest. It's a little different
out in Washington State obviously, but it was very similar.
And there are people who claim to have encounters with Sasquatch,
Bigfoot in the United Kingdom and obviously the Yowie in Australia.
Over the years, Have there been any stories that you
(12:14):
have researched or found, whether it be in the United Kingdom,
whether it be in Australia or just around the world
that stuck out to you and your research that you
found more credible or something extraordinary about them.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Is there only one credible story I've found, and it's
credible because it was relating into an incident. I'd have
to read it. I love it. This is an incident
in nineteen fifty five in a little place near Lawrenceburg
and Tennessee. It's written by an American Indian woman. Fifty
(12:46):
five years later, around two thousand and eight. It has
been published nineteen fifty five. In those times, no one
talked about Bigfoot. About for the American Indians, the indigenous populations.
I didn't figet the East coast. It's almost got as
many Bigfoot reports, but with lot more names. I just
want to read this to you. My apologies for my
(13:09):
bad American accent. This was fifty three years ago. It
was in Ethridge, Tennessee. I don't remember how to get
back to the old farm place, but even if I did,
it is not the same anymore. So much land as
being cleared. Hello all, I'm a fifty six year old woman,
but has never gave a second thought to the life
(13:31):
of what people call him Bigfoot. I knew him as
Whistling Paddy as a child. That is what my grandparents
and all the neighbors called him. Our neighbors were few
and far between that every one of them knew for
whistling Paddy. That is what they called him. I myself
can remember his screaming and whistling sounds as a child.
(13:52):
We lived in the deep woods in Ethridge, Tennessee, with
no electricity or indoor plumbing. Who was always around and
we were used to his sound until he came for
scraps at night. He did not eat any meat, only
peeling some potatoes and have a binge. He or she
was white with red eyes, as I know some folks
that called albillino. I guess my grandparents are not learned people.
(14:16):
They could not read or write. They had to sign
with an X. But I knew he was real. They
did not fear him. I saw him or her lots
of times. My aunt Wi lived about a mile away,
opened their back door one night to throw out a
dishwater and threw it on Paddy because he was standing
at the back door. It did not scare her because
(14:36):
she was used to it, although she had nine children.
She went and got some potatoes and gave him. He
was hungry. This's Paddy was about seven to eight feet
tall and did not ever hurt anyone. I'd like to
know if anyone else has ever heard one called a
whistling Paddy, because that is what he was called when
I was a small child growing up in those woods,
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and we did not fear him, but we had to
come inside right before dark because Mama would say, Paddy
is out here and we can't trust him. We don't
know who he is.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
And stay tuned for more sasquatch arleousy. We'll be right
back after these messages.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
If anyone else Evan knew have a bigfoot that was
called by the name of whistling Paddy, I'd like to know.
My grandparents were Indian. I knew many things, but we're
not smart when it came to the real world. I
knew how to get by with ten children, I live
a good life in the woods, and how spiderwebs packed
into a wound would stop bleeding. They knew as I did.
(15:38):
Paddy was real. He would tear bark off the trees
and by young uncles and tree houses built in My
uncles are still alive. They could tell more than me.
Everyone who lived in this area knew Paddy. He would
always come at dusky dark, never bright daylight. It was
hardwood forest towards. All around there was whiskey stills in
(15:58):
the woods by Grandpa had one also always as a child.
Neighbors would come sometimes and tell about the Paddy was
at their house or in the woods behind the house,
or the other night. They gave him food too, even
if it was just potato feelings. It would take it.
We were poor people and cooked out feelings for the
(16:18):
family to eat. My mum always made sure we had
a full belly, the same something for Paddy. I love
the elegant simplicity. There's nothing made up, there's nothing fatsful
about it. It gives great credits in the retelling. I've
also left the grammar and spelling, which is quite amazing. Intact,
(16:40):
it's such a wonderful sighting, full of originality and spirit,
and it is my favorite Bigfoot sighting. I know it
went on for a while. It is pure from the heart.
No one made better and that's it. It really gets
to you. You can visualize it in the deep woods
of Tennessee. Around there treach is as far as I know,
(17:02):
it's still pretty wild. Is she s too far from you? Actually? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Tennessee's only a few hours away from here. That's one
of the interesting things about this phenomenon. I have always
been a very skeptical person when it comes to Bigfoot.
Just recently last summer, I had my own encounters. I
was out in the Pacific Northwest. I got to see
these things three times in two days. And I am
now a knower. So I am more in the camp
(17:27):
of trying to figure out what these things are, why
we can't prove them with science. Why it seems that,
as you alluded to earlier, you've got multiple volumes of
all of these encounters. This is an encounter's based podcast.
At this point, I'm over six hundred episodes in. I've
probably interviewed a thousand people at this point face to face,
(17:50):
either on the show or at a conference or a
festival or a convention or a book signing, that have
had encounters.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
With these creatures.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Yet, very much to your point earlier, nobody's ever shot one.
We don't have a body that we know of. There's
some conspiracy theories out there that think they may be
at the Smithsonian. They're in the basement with all the
other things that people know about. Don't forget the giants
exactly the red hair giants that I don't think ever
truly exist in the Lovelock Caves. There's so many different things.
(18:19):
Let me ask you this, and you're research and looking
into this, why do you think it is that we
do have such a problem even though there's so many
anecdotal experiences that people relate to people like me, you,
and other repositories for this kind of information, Yet these
things remain so elusive that we can't prove them scientifically
(18:42):
and get them recognized by science. Why do you think
that is? Do you have a theory on what could
be going on there?
Speaker 2 (18:49):
I didn't have a theory. I have an observation of
a practice. When you go to high school, you learn
based on the curricula given to you by academia. When
you go into academic to develop your powers or your skills,
you were still limited by the academia that sent you
in there. And if you don't answer their questions the
(19:10):
way they want it, you don't get tenure, you don't
get a job to enforced fair guideline. Because if they
suddenly said, oh, we've decided to actually analyze this data
for hair scrapings and the odd bit of bigfoot we've
found over the years. It's actually real. Holy Mother of God,
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it means we've got to include everything. Before you know it,
they're bringing out supercubra bodies and gargoyles from the Midwest Texas.
It would destroy their paradigm that they've worked so hard
to keep constructed. I'll give you a simple analogy. It's
not a big Foot analogy. I'll give you a simple analogy.
Have you heard of Lewis Leaky. Lewis Leaky was the
(19:53):
greatest paleontologist that ever lived. He discovered Lucy and the
Old Gorge ten plus other eightient commoned fossils. He was
the expert. He wrote for books. He established for science
that humans were around millions of years ago, in various forms,
(20:13):
all happily evolving away. His books are here's the boss.
He knows what he's talking about. He went to North
America for a visit. He visited Calico in Texas and
another sight in California. Were shown little stone tools called
elists saw them here, and he declared and published that
these were eolifs. These they're exactly the same as the
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ones he found in Africa. But American academia said no,
don't exist now was here before eighteen thousand BC. Excuse me.
This is the prime person in charge of all of
this in the world, and American academia says, no, you're wrong.
It depends on who's protecting whose turf. I bite the
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American academic turf quite often. I've been running an argument
with one lately, and God, they got annoyed when they'd argue,
and all I kept giving them was science articles from
proper respect to academic sources refuting their arguments. Because my
research has found remains of ancient man mammos with spear
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points in Puebla State south of Mexico City, at a
quarter of a million years old. My books are full
of them. That's why I also bibiography. Do you want
to argue with me, argue with the knowledge train, because
I will argue knowledge has to be promoted, it has
to be saying. That's how I answer that question. It's
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our job to continue collecting data. I need to learn
what these people have done. How I've written in all
my books on bigfooted monsters. I know your grandma went
out and she saw something, but you forgot to mention
where and when, which means that bit of data is
totally useless. It's of no use. I can't find anything
(22:03):
about it. I can't find it for a number fifty
within a mile of it. I can't find passage. But
that's only from my viewpoint of finding somebody off. But
write a book on how us similarities of big food.
I've never met one that they might. So that's my answer.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Let's talk a little bit about some of the patterns
because that comes up. You mentioned one earlier. You mentioned
the smell in a lot of the encounters that people,
at least here in North America often talk about. Honestly,
for me, it's only been at about twenty to thirty
percent of the stories that people share as far as
(22:40):
their encounters where they either see something and or hear
something have some sort of encounter with what they believe
to be a sasquatch, but the smell is not there
in a lot of cases. Are there other patterns that
you have found as you've collected these encounters in these
stories for your books and your research. Are you finding
other patterns as far as as what these creatures look like,
(23:02):
some of the things that they do, the wood knocks,
some of those things. Can you talk a little bit
about some of the patterns that you've discovered, and what
do you think contributes to some of those patterns. Do
you equate it to known primate and ape behavior? Is
that what you're looking at in those.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Patterns, remembering the primate behavior, it's just one of my
hands is for Bigfoot. It does get more confusing. It
was stick to that. Other animals bash rocks on things,
that's quite common. Other animals use voices to communicate with whistling. Paddy,
so many reports of whistling Big Feet to each other.
(23:40):
Because a whistle carries further than a holla, it's a
higher tone. You'll pick it up better. The creatures are
designed for the air environment. They build nests. Lots of
nests have been found, Lots of scatter's been found, and
I wouldn't like to go near anything that produced something
that large. When we generally find the scat and it's
not scat, it's not humans scat, it's not wolverine skat,
(24:04):
it says bloody big scatter. Something enormous has had a
big crap. If we want to put it into basic words.
As I said before, I'm not a very bright person.
I do have to keep things very simple. Bigfoot is
an elusive creature. We've determined that that's why we don't
have one in the zoo looking out at us. But
(24:24):
also to a lot of people are saying it Bigfoot
doesn't live on Earth, doesn't exist to you don't bother
looking here, nothing to look at here, because it's multi dimensional. Okay,
We've got lots of reports. We've got to whold American
Indian mythologies and world mythologies on that. Have I just appear,
Have I just disappeer? Have I'll chase you and hunt
(24:46):
you down? Just look at the windy gap? How they
can be so incredibly fast when you see embracing across
a large open area past than the normal creature. My dear,
You've got to remember they're very tall creatures with a
huge legspan, So we have to allow for witness interpretation
of the event. But the American India cultures believe that
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the Bigfoot is also into dimensional just crops in and
out and in. I can accept that as well, because
I accept the multiverse. When you look at all the
stuff I've read, you've got to accept a multiverse. There
isn't one answer to everything. And now I'm going to
throw a wild rabbit into the mix, the third version
(25:31):
of Bigfoot. What the hell is the old pool going
to talk about? Now? We're going to go to France
in nineteen fifty four. Oh incidentally, Bigfoot in England is
called a Woodways or the green Man. Just for those
listeners who are still away. France, October nineteen fifty four,
during the largest UFO flap France has ever had. What
(25:54):
are you talking about? We're talking about Bigfoot. We're not
talking about you UFOs, silly old fool. Anyway, I will continue.
There's the UFO. There were nine times. They are the
hundreds of UFO sighting and lots of apparent landing. Who
are sighted landings? The UFO bit Lands underground ramp comes out.
(26:19):
Is it the big blonde guy from Venus or a
gray No, it's a four foot tall furry creature with
big eyes, a littlefoot. What does a little foot doing
coming out of a UFO bagat if? I know? As
I said, I just give you a reports that have
been published, and there are a lot of them. That
was nine rough for that month in France nineteen sixty
(26:43):
eight ninety sixty nine, Pennsylvania around Union Town lots of
UFO reports and in a big family gathering one evening landing,
here it comes. And this time, seven years before Star
Wars was released and put into the human consciousness, comes
(27:04):
an eight and a half to nine foot tall bigfoot.
I DANDAV was wearing a bandolero with bullets in it,
carrying a gun. It might not have been schue Barker,
but it might as well have been. And since that
period there have been continuous hairy hormond sightings in association
with u fos. That's three types of bigfoot, homegrown, into
(27:27):
dimensional and imported. It's also an answer to the question.
So we got three answers as I can said, we
can keep the three answers. But if people don't like
that only're like one answer to one question, well there
can be multiple answers because once again, the data gives
you the answer. I can't say these hundreds of people
(27:47):
are wrong, Sorry stuffed them and the American Indians they're
primitive and they're not half. They're not our civilization. That
would be rude. I wouldn't have that anyway. All of
that is inclusive three types, but the most common store
set isoud the anthropoid ape one, especially with the crown structure,
the muscular structure, the build of.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
That's one thing that I've had a really difficult time
for me is I like to check boxes. I like
to put things in boxes. I was in law enforcement
for sixteen years, so I have a cop brain.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
I didn't do anything.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
So when it comes to these creatures, I have always
planted my flag firmly in the flesh and blood camp,
if you will, the anthropoid apes. Yet during my experiences
last year, my encounter is one of the weird things
that happened was we saw two sets of glowing white eyes.
(28:43):
And I'm not talking eye shine. I'm not talking about
to pay them loose at them reflected eye shine. I'm
talking about self illuminating glowing eyes. Then we threw on
our flashlights and I saw one of these creatures from
ten feet away. I know that's what it was that
really wrecked my theory, if you will, on these creatures.
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So I am definitely more open to having some of
those conversations. It just gets a little strange when you
are in the camp. I'm one of these people that
I would like for these things to be proven to
be real.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Just for myself.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
Selfishly and for science, because I think it is very important,
at least to me, for all of the people that
have had these encounters and people think they're batshit crazy,
there's really something out there. So that's a very important
thing for me. And I know not everybody's in this
for the same reason. There are plenty of people who
don't want these things recognized by science because they know
what tends to come with that, and they don't think
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that they need to be meddled with. They've been fine
without us for however long they've existed. They don't need
human beings in their life. And I totally get that,
but I have a really hard time wrapping my brain
around those three answers. There's three different types, if you will,
just like you eloquently explained. I have conversations with pe
people like Ron Moorehead, who I love. I've known Ron
(30:02):
for years. He's into quantum physics. He wrote the book
Quantum Bigfoot, and he explains a lot of things in
the quantum realm, and it is way beyond Newtonian physics,
and most people don't wrap their brain around Newtonian.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
Physics, much less quantum physics.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
So it's very difficult, and that's why I think a
lot of people meet that with such resistance for a
myriad of reasons. Sometimes it's ignorance, but a lot of
times people do like to plant their flag and they
don't feel like moving it. But it looks like to
me that you do get into the quantum realm.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Is that accurate?
Speaker 3 (30:40):
Do you look at quantum physics and try to explain
some of these things that happen with Bigfoot and maybe
some of these other cryptids and maybe even the UFOs
or UAPs. Do you think maybe some of the answers,
maybe not all, but at least some of the answers
lie in quantum physics and quantum mechanics.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
And stay tuned for more sasque jealousy will be right
back after these messages.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
For short answer. And incidentally, in the late sixties, no higher,
there are reports of Bigfoot that every time they were shot,
they exploded in a flash of light, which is not
just isolated to our higher. It's been known to happen
at other times before. So let's look at quantum physic
(31:27):
Let's say you just bang, you've hit this big Foot
in Ohio. It's nineteen sixty eight and it disappear asn't
a flash of light? Did it retreat to another dimension,
did it dissipate? Did it just become total massive sabatomic
particles drifting away into the ether. Everything is quantum physics,
(31:48):
Everything is harmonics. I have talked at times. You've heard
me recently you mentioned it discussing part of quantum physics. Yes,
that it's sort as simple as it's not as simple
as it That's why we've got three types. It could
even be more because in quintem physics we are responsible
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for the observation. The basis that kind of physics is
if you believe in a curved line theory of atomic structure,
or your experiments will come up with a curved line result,
if you believe in the straight line theory, where your
experiments come in with a straight line result. Sounds absurd
being published hundreds and hundreds of times, but it sounds
(32:31):
totally absurd because quantum physics basically is based on the
entire universe and multiverse being just a system of different
vibrations at different speeds. Are solids. Not much of a
vibration going on there. Actually, it just sits there. Mind you.
The physicist bows he won a Nobel prize. I think
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is a research in physics in the early twentieth century,
so that even rocks have feelings or period of expansionar
contraction like muscle expansionar contraction. I don't know. These books
are a ass incomprehensible. A lot of physics is like that.
Academia cloaks itself in their own language. So you have rocks,
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artificial rockets called a coffee cup. I mean agitate those
atoms got liquids. I'm still thinking, what the hell is
it to agitate that? Again? Here? God gas, why are
you telling me that? I know that I learned an
elementary school. But did you remember to learn that there
are five states of matter? Oh? They didn't teach you,
(33:40):
not even in senior high university. Oh, I might have
brushed past it. At the center of a nuclear explosions
a fifth state of matter. It's called pasma. Pasma is
where the gravitational bond between all the sub nuclear particles
are not bonded anymore. At the magnet grip has gone.
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You've got free form matter, but being produced by such
hideously high temperatures. Nothing can survive it. But that's their
bloody use is it. You just end up with huge
light and heat occasions. Here are another two theories. One
I used for years, but I've recently changed it that
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light and heat and exploding matter electrons, quarks, neutrons, neutrinos,
all the basic building blocks are exploding out and they
vibrate so far that they travel between dimensions, both SATs
of matter, and then I can try and explain which
I won't the latest fifth state of matter to replace
(34:43):
the closer vacam I have mentioned for Bose. Einstein condemsated
a couple of years ago as a possible solution to
interdimensional travel due to its cold nature as well as
being a product of the harmonics of microwaves. I describe
it as electron magnetic harmonic resonance, and it explained and
removed problems with using plasma state and the necessary heat
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needed to enter other dimensions. That's a lot to take in.
That's my theory, and that way we don't have the
intense heat because it's all based on harmonics, and everything
in the universe is part of harmonics, and that's another
talk on its own. But where it is harmonics joined
together is where we get our interdimensional apes. So we're
(35:31):
going to say I'm a wind to go, etc. Coming
through interdimensional openings to Earth. Are the UFO is bringing
the hairy creatures coming from other dimensions because the concept
of tirement space is obsurd and privative. I spend four
and a half years AT's bit of Light trying to
get just from Alpha centaur right to hear Alpa centorious
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and nearest neighbor. When we can find the correct harmonic level,
we're going through both sides at once, we're heres. I've
been writing about it the years. This is a program
on Bigfoot very fast times. I've had so many reports
on the immense speed they could do is virtually instant
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across a paddict we're clearing. How do we explain it?
Speaker 3 (36:17):
It's almost impossible to explain because I literally just had
this conversation with a guy I was interviewing earlier today.
We were talking about plasmoids because he had a UFO
experience as well in addition to some of his Bigfoot experiences.
So we were talking about plasma and plasmoids, and we
got a little bit into some quantum physics in our conversation,
(36:39):
and I brought it up to him and it's something
we've talked about on this program. I host multiple podcasts.
I've talked about it over on that Bigfoot podcast with
my co host over there, is that bigfoot. They clearly
exist because I've seen them. So we're past that. We
checked that box. But here's the thing that's very difficult
for me to wrap my brain around. And this conversation
is helping me at least further my thought process because
(37:04):
in the animal kingdom, and this is the example I
gave him earlier when I was talking to Justin, is
you take an elephant humong us. Everybody already has this
mental picture of what an elephant looks like. They're huge,
they're strong, they're powerful, but they're slow. Then you take
a cheetah, much smaller, sleek, compact built for speed, one
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of the fastest, if not the fastest, animal on the planet.
But neither of those animals possess what the other has.
A cheetah is the fastest thing, but it's not the strongest,
it's not the biggest, it's not the most powerful. Elephants big, strong, powerful,
not very fast. So here's the problem that I've had
(37:49):
this dichotomy of thoughts in my brain about Bigfoot how
is it that sasquatch Bigfoot has all of these things? Obviously,
if if we're trying to explain it in the most
basic terms, which is what I try to do, I'm
very simple minded as well. If you don't get into
or open yourself up to the fact that quantum physics
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and mechanics exist and could explain some of these superabilities
that people often say that they experience with Bigfoot, nothing
else really makes sense because these creatures exist. So if
they exist in the physical form, they would be not
only an anomaly in and of itself that there are
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some bipedal comminid, but they also have all of these
other superabilities. They're super fast, they're strong, they're big, they're powerful,
all of the above. It only makes sense to me
that we need to start looking in other directions, very
much like you're talking about, to explain some of those things.
And it's a very difficult conversation for me to have
(38:54):
on the show because a lot of my listeners don't
want to hear that that's not their answer. So it's
very fine line to try to bring people this data
and also not lose them at the same time. It's
a very hard thing to try to broach in the subjects.
I'm learning my way, stumbling through trying to have these conversations,
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and maybe these kind of conversations with you may help
to ease people into that, because what we've been doing
for the last five or six decades looking for the
big ape in the woods hasn't worked for most people.
You can't just go out and find one and have
an experience. You certainly just can't go out and shoot one,
or somebody would have already done it and had it
on the loot of their pickup truck, and we would
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all know that they exist. But that's not the case.
So how do you have those kind of conversations with
people who honestly don't want.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
To hear that. I'm not very good at banging my
head against a trade prunk bigfoot, if ibidrite that as
you can't understand it, Good on them. They're happy with
their interpretation, they're happy with their reality, and I acknowledge it.
I respect them for it. Concepts from beyond then and
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they're really freaky, they're really strange, and they get stranger
as the science as a dat. They have already introduced Bigfoot,
Chewbaca coming out of UFAs. I didn't want to talk
about that, but that is what the data is leading to.
I've mentioned the Amerindian mythology of a wendigo fifty other
names as well. That's acknowledged by them. I'm not going
(40:28):
to deny the truth of what they have experienced or
see or believe, because that is there knowledge, their experience,
and they believe the same as the people who believe
he live it. He lives in the woods, and we
just haven't managed to shoot one yet. But as I said,
my research I found five that have been shot. One
in Colorado, I think in nineteen fifty eight. Young fellows
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shot it, killed it, realized it looked like a man,
they buried it, and it took decades of a report
to come out. They're so scared of being arrested. Another
Siberian event shot killed. The two trappers realized it was
a bigfoot man, not just an ordinary man, and they
didn't bear in the body and wouldn't talk about it
(41:12):
for decades either. One of the most common themes, and
we haven't mentioned it yet. There's people who finally do
get to meet Bigfoot and they're about to try and
shoot Bigfoot, and they look at Bigfoot's eyes. They look
at Bigfoot's face and they say in the reports, and
there are lots of reports, I couldn't shoot him or
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her or them because sometimes they are kids with them,
our family troops, or they didn't breed on their own.
Very difficult because they realized that they were looking at themselves.
They realized they we're looking at another version of humanity,
something that thinks and sees. You can't shoot yourself or
(41:55):
you'll kill yourself. They just can't do it. They realize,
I can't shoot the bigot, and that's the most common
shooting sighting we have. We're always going to have conjectures,
We're always going to have theories. I like just having
the amphroboid ape theory. I think it's lovely. The solves
so many problems, put some more than their boxes. And
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it's he hides well and he knocks over bins and
eats things, and what other scavenger doesn't if there's food there,
I mean the bears to it. Who would it. In Australia,
we've got a bird called I called the binchook. The
chook is Australian for a chicken, so it's called in
polite society of a bin chicken. Well, you call it
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the binchook because we're more primitive and not that well educated,
and we prefer using the vernacular. And that is just
Denibus with a long beak and the black head. And
he looks a bit weird, but he gets into the
garbage in the middle of the cities. He owns Sydney,
which is a capin to live near South Wales. You
see them everywhere in the parks, walking in and out
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of shops and cafes, and people to say, yes's it's
a big drug. And yet I've seen American tourists looking
to say, what's that, Harry, It's ugly and this seems
looking up and then we've probably what the hell are
you two? But it's different ways of looking, different ways
of reacting.
Speaker 3 (43:17):
I want to talk about one of your books. There
are tons, I think you said, one hundred and forty
books out on Amazon.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
Now.
Speaker 3 (43:25):
There's one from twenty twenty three called The Little Book
of Lost Giants of North America. Can you talk a
little bit about that. I'm curious what can people expect
when they pick that up?
Speaker 2 (43:35):
But it's a little book, all right. I write big books.
I've written books at the seventeen hundred pages. But instead
of giving you, as we drove down into the Luscus
Valley with the beautiful flaring gun breeze around and there's
the streme wound down the course, we could see the
geology and hold him by God. Three days later or
(43:56):
six pages, who actually get to I did say a
big footstanding the stump. My book's average seven or eight
bigfoot reports or anomalous creature reports or UFO reports a page.
You're going to have Florence syndrome by the time you
start reading it, because my book's batter your brain. And
the funny thing is, I've had so many reports every
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years that people say, just when I think you're right,
and I believe you, and this answers the question, you
come up with a new question and destroy the old one,
because I do. We have to get to the truth,
and you have to demolish concepts on the way a
little book of the Lost Giants. I've been interviewed by
another person who's a good interviewer. I enjoy these interviews.
(44:39):
But a few years ago now and he said, I
only send a book on the Lost Giants of North America.
For a while I said, I whipped my nup. I've
got a big database. I can do amazing things very fast.
So that weekend I whipped up the little book of
Lost the Giants of North America and publish it on Amazon.
Speaker 4 (44:59):
Stating more sasquat jotausy, we'll be right back after these messages.
Speaker 2 (45:07):
He wanted it bexres a giant convention somewhere a couple
of months later. Okay, no worries here. It is most
of them are seven and a half eight and a
half foot tall. There are lots of legends that were
all taken out of the mounds where they were found
and taken to the Smithsonian and never seen again. There
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were that all the time. I mentioned our old mates
at Lovelock, and I think seven other caves nearby, tall
redheaded giants or part of Amerindian legends state that we
killed them because they were attacking the women, killing people.
These giants didn't send them the happiest creatures. And yet
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our giant were they as giants the aDNA who appeared
on the Saint Lawrence Seaway six and a half to
seven half foot tall on average. Remember, at the turn
of the nineteenth to the twentieth century. The average American
male height was five foot four inches in the seventeenth
century when they first came over the spread pestilence across
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the land. But that's another story. There were less than
five feet. So you meet a six and a half
to seven and a half foot tall American India. But
the adena they're giants, and people have said, oh no,
but we've got reports of them being twenty foot tall,
thirty foot tour. So we don't even have bigfoot bat
tour because the skeletal structure will collapse. By the time
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they're twelve or thirteen foot tall. They start having huge
prodence in blood circulation and bodily organ function. I got
three diplomas in anatomy and physiology just in case any
and asking I researched for subjects. These days, you're look
an eight and a half foot tall person. It's an
a league basketballer. Different die. Maybe it's a great foremone
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in the chickens. A lot of people reckon that they
eat a lot of chicken. The giants were supposed to
be a race that were destroyed by the American Indians
all over North America. They were not. In many cases
the mound builders, where a lot of mounds were found
with giant remains in them. They are said to be counnibalistic.
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The other authors have devoted their lives to writing about them.
I just got all the datro had on giants and
chucked them in this little book of Giants to give
you an idea of what's been researched, what's been found,
and you can head off to the bibliography and find
everything else you want. That's the other good thing about bibliographies.
They help you expand the hunt. I like reading bibliographies.
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They tend to buy the books in the bibliographies because
there the sauces.
Speaker 3 (47:50):
All right, You've got way too many titles for us
to say them all here. However, can you go down
the list of specifically bigfoot stuff, tell people what you've
written on the subject of bigfoot sasquatch giants and where
people can find them, and I will certainly link to
it in the show notes so everybody can pick them up.
Speaker 2 (48:12):
Okay. I have written quite a few books on monsters
of the East Coast, North America, North coast, South coast,
West Coast. I eventually found that was eighteen hundred pages
of different monsters and bigfoots, et cetera. And then I
decided to tidy up the bigfoots into the Amazing Bigfoot
Encounters of the US. It's twenty and three hundred and
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thirty one pages in nine volumes, with maps. I like maps.
You can see in maps everything that's happened where they are.
The fourho one Lost People maps for the same. The
area where they are. It is basically desert, no trees
and open areas. You're not going to get me bigfoots
there giants if you want to look at giant remains
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in more detail. I got a lovely fat book. We
only trouble with writing sandy books, as I forget their names.
Is See Atlas The Strange and Mysterious Archaeology of North America.
It's state by state, county by county. It's designed say
you can just head off and go to your state,
go to your county, and look, good, God, what is
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in my neighborhood? Who gives you a lead to what
you could find? But you've got to do for research
to find out more about it. Oh, my books are roadmaps.
They help you wander along to where you need to go.
I've got another book I really love, and that is
pre Columbian River Explorers of North America, which is a
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great lady your book. It's another fat thing as well.
My book's are four fifty five hundred and six hundred
pages on a had a lot of data in them.
I have had auto maps and are collated all the
anomalous architecture to do with rivers and lakes and coasts
of North America. And I started up north at bath
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and Island, only a short skip and way from Guarded,
the capital of Iceland, and headed along the coast and
headed further down the coast, headed around Florida into the Bahamas,
headed back up to Mississippi, headed up the Mississippi, up
the Missouri, up the Ohio into the Great Lakes, and
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out through the Saint Lawrence Seaway. Then we headed down
the Mississippi to the Gulf of Mexico, around Texas, shut
around the California by New Mexico up to Canada. And
that was the end of the book. I have maps
in it that show where there remains of Viking remained,
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Roman remains, Celtic remains, Phoenician remains, room stones, many things.
And then when you look at the geology at the
area and climatic conditions at the time in that area.
You start adding together a lot of archaeologists forget we
have wet periods that last hundreds of years. We had
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dry periods at last hundreds of years. And the geology
changes constantly and the climatology changes costly. Do you know
that you could take a ship good sized Scandinavian noor
sixty tons go to Lake Michigan via the Saint Lawrence River.
It's just north of Chicago in the pluvial period of
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a medieval period Brandy period in Shorthand. You could virtually
float that thing to the day Plains River. You've just
been to the copper mines at Isla, Royale and Michigan,
which are the biggest copper workings on earth that stopped
in fifteen hundred BC at the end of the Iron
Age in Europe. Interesting, and then you go straight down
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the day planes the Illinois to the Mississippi out they
go for Mexico onto the Gulf Stream. Home in Europe
in ancient times, rivers season lakes for the super highways
too hard to carry, break over mountains and rocks and
things just go up a river interesting. You get to
stand points of rivers in North America and multiple remains
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of different cultures because they're trying to forward a waterfall
or something like that. They're all in the book. If
it be ad. I had to go through ancient mats
to try and find where some of these rivers went to,
and they went there in the medieval period. The lakes
in Minnesota were enormous, the same in Canada. You'd float
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almost anywhere and we know what we're found. So so
that's just one example. But it's fun looking at the
mats and where things go. I'm working on doing a
spoken book on it, but my voice dies after an hour.
Everything's a challenge. Very true.
Speaker 3 (52:53):
Definitely one of the most interesting conversations I've had in
quite a while.
Speaker 4 (52:58):
George.
Speaker 3 (52:58):
I cannot thank you for sharing all of your knowledge
experience in the books. You guys, go out and pick
up George's books. Go buy all one hundred and forty.
I will link to George's books on Amazon. You guys,
click the link, go pick them up. George, thank you
so much for taking the time to come on. I've
had a blast talking to you.
Speaker 2 (53:16):
Thank you for the experience to be on. Please thank
Leilah who recommended you. She's a wonderful woman. Just a
word of warning to people. My books aren't written for intellectuals.
I don't like intellectuals. I want the average person to
understand my books and enjoy them, because that's sort of
knowledge has been hit by the intellectuals. We're letting it out,
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we're letting it on the ass, so to say.
Speaker 5 (53:40):
They say, you don't have to go home, but you
can't stay.
Speaker 6 (54:00):
Stay inside step steps, inside.
Speaker 7 (54:12):
Steps, chart, this child, that chart, Everything came right back,
right back.
Speaker 5 (54:24):
Joy for me, Joy, stay right there, you come in
right away.
Speaker 8 (54:35):
Still still sta s s S S S sayss
Speaker 5 (55:18):
Dot dot dot dotsass stas uses statesssss
Now one of your pudding. I got a string going
on here, something just because my dog. Something killed your dog.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
My dog.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
We're flying through the air over the tree. I don't
know how it did it, Okay, Damn, I'm really confused.
All I saw was my dog coming over the fence
and he was dead. And once you hit the ground like,
I didn't see any cars. All I saw was my
dog coming over the fence. Sat, what are you putting?
(00:39):
We got some wonder or something crawling around out here?
Did you see what it was or was it was?
Standing enough? I'm out here looking through the window now
and I don't see anything. I don't want to go outside. Jesus,
quice you better or hello? Hit somebody out here when
(01:05):
I'm out there. It's good of a venture about text nine.
I don't know out there? Yeah, I'm walking right ay, I.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Booked on a walk of My guest to the show.
It is author and researcher George Mitrovic, coming from across
the Pond in Australia. Welcome to the show, sir.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Hello, how are you? Would you believe I've forgotten your
name already? I'm tapeless with people's names. I feel like
a big ball run, but I'm used to that. I
just asked to introduce the guy next to me years ago,
and I looked to him as I've got no idea
what your name is. That I'm a brother, you idiot.
Oh okay, that's the way my brain works. And then
you ask me about some by barthrocking every single part
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of it. I'm a researcher, an author, and it's raal Blazer.
They've published over one hundred and forty books since twenty
twelve whilst working full time. I'm nearly seventy. I get
into a lot of prophecy with people because I don't
have a hypothesis and charge in and find ways of
proving it. I let the data prove and bring up
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whatever hypothesis at wants, and some of them can be
quite start. One of my favorite subjects is our bloved
friend Bigfoot, a sasquatch or Harry Homidd, whatever you want
to call it.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Let's get into that. Let's talk a little bit about Bigfoot.
Let's talk about what got you interested it in the subject.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
To begin with, I've always been interested in strange mysteries,
weird archaeology, stuff like that. My brother was only mentioning
to me other day. They said, I still remember you
dogging on the piano when you were five. I said,
I know, it's horrendous, and I figure I remember wailing
about it at the same time. What five year old
does that. By seven, I was reading the aa Yendi Letters,
(02:50):
which is about the Philadelphia Experiment. I started gathering books
and there was a really good bookshop in the Australia
event called the Ada Bookshop. It's been closed for years now,
and I got some amazing books from there. And one
thing my parents did, they spoiled me rotten with books.
I read the Entact of Peter Britannic and by the
time I was five. But it was helped by the
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fact that I was most tatly crippled from a car
accident and couldn't do anything else. I'm fine now apart
from old age. But I think it's what got is
going and looking in every other direction. Most people don't
have a chance to whilst looking through every mystery on Earth.
I don't like mysteries. They annoy me. Every mystery is
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a question. Every question needs an answer, and I'll give
you the answer. I met Bigfoot along the way the
American Bigfoot. I met him for Ivan Sanderson's works brilliant
often the founder of cryptozoologies, you would know along with
Burned her Woman's and his book Bequests for the Sea
Serpent was pretty amazing too. And I met Bigfoot and
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I met the frozen Minnesota Iceman. Did he exist? They
did not exist? Hang on. I have a books I've
read have mentioned them in China, in Asia and the
Himalayas in South America. I hadn't heard of any in
Australia yet of that time. I's only it's seven or eight,
and I thought, let's look at bigfoots. I've had arguments
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with researchers. Since it's big feet, it's not bigfoots, or
it's a bigfoot lural. I've got benefitsative and argue, semantics.
Call it what you want, call it late for dinner.
I really don't care. Just don't call me late for dinner.
You can call me anything else. And they've been called
lots of things. I wanted to know who is Bigfoot?
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Who is this large cryptid preacher? And in those days
we only fought of them as wandering up and down
the Great Forest Melts Washington, Iregon, Northern California, so I
started to gathering books. I had these old compositors tables
from printing when they used to use little eyes, and
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they each had a slot. Each of those was twenty
four units long, which was eight z or z, and
so everything with a wait in thereb next to it.
It's amazing what you're mass when you start doing a
alphabetic I work on patterns. My brain works on patents.
You can't do anything else. Thank on. Look at what's
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happening here. There aren't just big woods in West coast.
They're on the East coast, not that many in the
middle part because there aren't that many trees in the
middle part. This animal's designed to hide amongst big brown trees,
so it looks like a tree. They're built like a tree.
There ain't and a half to nine and a half
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feet tall on average. Amongst sightings, they stink to higher heaven.
On most cases. They generally tend to become carnivores. Where
there is the Coombey ark crowd that says they're vegans
and peaceful, but I'm not sure how many of them
have actually approached one very close. But I'll leave into
their opinions as well. Is this a real creature. So
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the advantage of going through thousands of is you sign themes. Yes,
I know, I'm a theme fanatic like you. The most
common theme, the most common theme in North American Bigfoot stories,
and of course North American authors don't bever mentioning it
very much or even regarded as having any significance. From Australia,
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we'll write anything. I must remind you every single one
of my books as a bibliography, so you can chase
the paper trayal. These aren't my ideas, this isn't my data.
I'm just getting it for you, preserving it so it's
still here so it doesn't disappear. Simple story. Randy and
Andy young men, public college, late high school, driving around
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at two o'clock in the morning. I may have had
a couple of beers. They may not have had a
couple of beers. They reach that point of the drive
in the woods for the forest, it's time to get
out to relieve themselves. A lovely euphemism. We don't use
that one in Australia, but this is a family program.
Sol sticktivate euphemism. Next second, something is yelling, screaming, jumping, throwing, rocks,
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throwing wood, carrying on like a banshee, red eyes blazing,
full height grown, And of course when afropoints get excited,
their first stands out. That looks even bigger. They're saying,
he is pierced off. Complately, Brandy and Andy, mysteriously enough,
have stopped relieving themselves and got back to their car
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very quickly. And you say, what's out about. That's just
a bigfoot carrying on. No, that is a bigfoot for
reacting two two homined creatures. Yes, we are hominids urinating
on its territory, which to the bigfoot means I am
faming your territory. It's no longer yours. You try doing
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that in the April Monkey House at the zoo. You'll
get the same response. If you go and makes the chimps,
they won't be gentle at all. It won't be just
a stern warning. It'll be God help you, because you'll
need one. So if what that's interesting, that's hormon and
anthropology one O one it's basics for apes and monkeys,
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and another little one another common theme. Randy and not Andy,
but Randy and Sheryl are deep in the woods on
a Friday night, it's dark, they're come together for warm
they're obviously studying for very SAPs. What else would they
be doing there? And they're busy doing whatever they're doing
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there in the woods away from prying eyes, or so
they sing. The next second, there's his big hairy face
at the windscreen or a side window and tends to
freak out, so does Andy. Next time you see the
monkey cage or the ape page at the zoo or
the ape enclosure, it's what they like watching. It's not
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the seven PM news. It's other monkeys doing the way
on thing because it the most natural physical process on earth.
How do you think we are got here? There's no
other technique known. Once again, this is anthropology one oh
one here. And then it's a large territorial animal, very
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territorial animal, very wary of us, because every time we
seem to show up, we're trying to shoot it. So
they've learned the camouflage pretty well. They've learned to stay
away from us. And yet the thousands of reports. I've
just ordered a copy of nine books of mine in
one set, amazing big for the encounters of the United States,
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state by states, some of the books having their own
books a state. It's three hundred and thirty one pages.
Someone's ever published. I published it two years ago. That's
a lot of bigfoots. Why is it then in the
United States, and in fact almost anywhere else has seen
on earth? Remember that's Randy and Andy. They've gone back.
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They're going to fix this big barment. They're going to
go and get him. And they've got their guns, the
usual little small town American arsenal that you carried. And
they've been shooting squirrels since I'm a knee high to
a grasshopper. And they can shoot a squirrel at one
hundred yards, how can they can't hit a nine and
a half foot tour Harry Harmon at about twenty feet?
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Did they suddenly get nervous? Why? How come they did
not hit fun? How come there is no record of
one hanging on a barn wall somewhere. I'm not a
very bright man. I have to give things very simple
to understand them. I've found five reports have shot big foot,
one in Canada in nineteen forty eight. Multiple pages doing
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this set of books. I was just mentioning you can
get them on Amazon. In fact, I discovered there are
more bigfoot sightings around Los Angeles, and there are in
northern California, which is interesting. Like most Bigfoot sightings, I
tend to phase out once the trees disappear. Christie not
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that finds animals, but there are some reports, but not many.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Being over in Australia. I was over in the United
Kingdom last summer to speak at a conference over there,
and I got out in the woods at a couple
of places out in the Summerset area in the UK.
I was shocked, honestly to see the type of forest
that they have there. They're very similar to what we
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deal with. I'm in North Carolina here in the United States.
I've been in the Pacific Northwest. It's a little different
out in Washington State obviously, but it was very similar.
And there are people who claim to have encounters with Sasquatch,
Bigfoot in the United Kingdom and obviously the Yowie in Australia.
Over the years, Have there been any stories that you
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have researched or found, whether it be in the United Kingdom,
whether it be in Australia or just around the world
that stuck out to you and your research that you
found more credible or something extraordinary about them.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Is there only one credible story I've found, and it's
credible because it was relating into an incident. I'd have
to read it. I love it. This is an incident
in nineteen fifty five in a little place near Lawrenceburg
and Tennessee. It's written by an American Indian woman. Fifty
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five years later, around two thousand and eight. It has
been published nineteen fifty five. In those times, no one
talked about Bigfoot. About for the American Indians, the indigenous populations.
I didn't figet the East coast. It's almost got as
many Bigfoot reports, but with lot more names. I just
want to read this to you. My apologies for my
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bad American accent. This was fifty three years ago. It
was in Ethridge, Tennessee. I don't remember how to get
back to the old farm place, but even if I did,
it is not the same anymore. So much land as
being cleared. Hello all, I'm a fifty six year old woman,
but has never gave a second thought to the life
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of what people call him Bigfoot. I knew him as
Whistling Paddy as a child. That is what my grandparents
and all the neighbors called him. Our neighbors were few
and far between that every one of them knew for
whistling Paddy. That is what they called him. I myself
can remember his screaming and whistling sounds as a child.
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We lived in the deep woods in Ethridge, Tennessee, with
no electricity or indoor plumbing. Who was always around and
we were used to his sound until he came for
scraps at night. He did not eat any meat, only
peeling some potatoes and have a binge. He or she
was white with red eyes, as I know some folks
that called albillino. I guess my grandparents are not learned people.
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They could not read or write. They had to sign
with an X. But I knew he was real. They
did not fear him. I saw him or her lots
of times. My aunt Wi lived about a mile away,
opened their back door one night to throw out a
dishwater and threw it on Paddy because he was standing
at the back door. It did not scare her because
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she was used to it, although she had nine children.
She went and got some potatoes and gave him. He
was hungry. This's Paddy was about seven to eight feet
tall and did not ever hurt anyone. I'd like to
know if anyone else has ever heard one called a
whistling Paddy, because that is what he was called when
I was a small child growing up in those woods,
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and we did not fear him, but we had to
come inside right before dark because Mama would say, Paddy
is out here and we can't trust him. We don't
know who he is.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
And stay tuned for more sasquatch arleousy. We'll be right
back after these messages.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
If anyone else Evan knew have a bigfoot that was
called by the name of whistling Paddy, I'd like to know.
My grandparents were Indian. I knew many things, but we're
not smart when it came to the real world. I
knew how to get by with ten children, I live
a good life in the woods, and how spiderwebs packed
into a wound would stop bleeding. They knew as I did.
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Paddy was real. He would tear bark off the trees
and by young uncles and tree houses built in My
uncles are still alive. They could tell more than me.
Everyone who lived in this area knew Paddy. He would
always come at dusky dark, never bright daylight. It was
hardwood forest towards. All around there was whiskey stills in
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the woods by Grandpa had one also always as a child.
Neighbors would come sometimes and tell about the Paddy was
at their house or in the woods behind the house,
or the other night. They gave him food too, even
if it was just potato feelings. It would take it.
We were poor people and cooked out feelings for the
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family to eat. My mum always made sure we had
a full belly, the same something for Paddy. I love
the elegant simplicity. There's nothing made up, there's nothing fatsful
about it. It gives great credits in the retelling. I've
also left the grammar and spelling, which is quite amazing. Intact,
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it's such a wonderful sighting, full of originality and spirit,
and it is my favorite Bigfoot sighting. I know it
went on for a while. It is pure from the heart.
No one made better and that's it. It really gets
to you. You can visualize it in the deep woods
of Tennessee. Around there treach is as far as I know,
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it's still pretty wild. Is she s too far from you? Actually? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Tennessee's only a few hours away from here. That's one
of the interesting things about this phenomenon. I have always
been a very skeptical person when it comes to Bigfoot.
Just recently last summer, I had my own encounters. I
was out in the Pacific Northwest. I got to see
these things three times in two days. And I am
now a knower. So I am more in the camp
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of trying to figure out what these things are, why
we can't prove them with science. Why it seems that,
as you alluded to earlier, you've got multiple volumes of
all of these encounters. This is an encounter's based podcast.
At this point, I'm over six hundred episodes in. I've
probably interviewed a thousand people at this point face to face,
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either on the show or at a conference or a
festival or a convention or a book signing, that have
had encounters.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
With these creatures.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Yet, very much to your point earlier, nobody's ever shot one.
We don't have a body that we know of. There's
some conspiracy theories out there that think they may be
at the Smithsonian. They're in the basement with all the
other things that people know about. Don't forget the giants
exactly the red hair giants that I don't think ever
truly exist in the Lovelock Caves. There's so many different things.
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Let me ask you this, and you're research and looking
into this, why do you think it is that we
do have such a problem even though there's so many
anecdotal experiences that people relate to people like me, you,
and other repositories for this kind of information, Yet these
things remain so elusive that we can't prove them scientifically
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and get them recognized by science. Why do you think
that is? Do you have a theory on what could
be going on there?
Speaker 2 (18:49):
I didn't have a theory. I have an observation of
a practice. When you go to high school, you learn
based on the curricula given to you by academia. When
you go into academic to develop your powers or your skills,
you were still limited by the academia that sent you
in there. And if you don't answer their questions the
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way they want it, you don't get tenure, you don't
get a job to enforced fair guideline. Because if they
suddenly said, oh, we've decided to actually analyze this data
for hair scrapings and the odd bit of bigfoot we've
found over the years. It's actually real. Holy Mother of God,
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it means we've got to include everything. Before you know it,
they're bringing out supercubra bodies and gargoyles from the Midwest Texas.
It would destroy their paradigm that they've worked so hard
to keep constructed. I'll give you a simple analogy. It's
not a big Foot analogy. I'll give you a simple analogy.
Have you heard of Lewis Leaky. Lewis Leaky was the
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greatest paleontologist that ever lived. He discovered Lucy and the
Old Gorge ten plus other eightient commoned fossils. He was
the expert. He wrote for books. He established for science
that humans were around millions of years ago, in various forms,
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all happily evolving away. His books are here's the boss.
He knows what he's talking about. He went to North
America for a visit. He visited Calico in Texas and
another sight in California. Were shown little stone tools called
elists saw them here, and he declared and published that
these were eolifs. These they're exactly the same as the
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ones he found in Africa. But American academia said no,
don't exist now was here before eighteen thousand BC. Excuse me.
This is the prime person in charge of all of
this in the world, and American academia says, no, you're wrong.
It depends on who's protecting whose turf. I bite the
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American academic turf quite often. I've been running an argument
with one lately, and God, they got annoyed when they'd argue,
and all I kept giving them was science articles from
proper respect to academic sources refuting their arguments. Because my
research has found remains of ancient man mammos with spear
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points in Puebla State south of Mexico City, at a
quarter of a million years old. My books are full
of them. That's why I also bibiography. Do you want
to argue with me, argue with the knowledge train, because
I will argue knowledge has to be promoted, it has
to be saying. That's how I answer that question. It's
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our job to continue collecting data. I need to learn
what these people have done. How I've written in all
my books on bigfooted monsters. I know your grandma went
out and she saw something, but you forgot to mention
where and when, which means that bit of data is
totally useless. It's of no use. I can't find anything
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about it. I can't find it for a number fifty
within a mile of it. I can't find passage. But
that's only from my viewpoint of finding somebody off. But
write a book on how us similarities of big food.
I've never met one that they might. So that's my answer.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Let's talk a little bit about some of the patterns
because that comes up. You mentioned one earlier. You mentioned
the smell in a lot of the encounters that people,
at least here in North America often talk about. Honestly,
for me, it's only been at about twenty to thirty
percent of the stories that people share as far as
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their encounters where they either see something and or hear
something have some sort of encounter with what they believe
to be a sasquatch, but the smell is not there
in a lot of cases. Are there other patterns that
you have found as you've collected these encounters in these
stories for your books and your research. Are you finding
other patterns as far as as what these creatures look like,
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some of the things that they do, the wood knocks,
some of those things. Can you talk a little bit
about some of the patterns that you've discovered, and what
do you think contributes to some of those patterns. Do
you equate it to known primate and ape behavior? Is
that what you're looking at in those.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Patterns, remembering the primate behavior, it's just one of my
hands is for Bigfoot. It does get more confusing. It
was stick to that. Other animals bash rocks on things,
that's quite common. Other animals use voices to communicate with whistling. Paddy,
so many reports of whistling Big Feet to each other.
(23:40):
Because a whistle carries further than a holla, it's a
higher tone. You'll pick it up better. The creatures are
designed for the air environment. They build nests. Lots of
nests have been found, Lots of scatter's been found, and
I wouldn't like to go near anything that produced something
that large. When we generally find the scat and it's
not scat, it's not humans scat, it's not wolverine skat,
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it says bloody big scatter. Something enormous has had a
big crap. If we want to put it into basic words.
As I said before, I'm not a very bright person.
I do have to keep things very simple. Bigfoot is
an elusive creature. We've determined that that's why we don't
have one in the zoo looking out at us. But
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also to a lot of people are saying it Bigfoot
doesn't live on Earth, doesn't exist to you don't bother
looking here, nothing to look at here, because it's multi dimensional. Okay,
We've got lots of reports. We've got to whold American
Indian mythologies and world mythologies on that. Have I just appear,
Have I just disappeer? Have I'll chase you and hunt
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you down? Just look at the windy gap? How they
can be so incredibly fast when you see embracing across
a large open area past than the normal creature. My dear,
You've got to remember they're very tall creatures with a
huge legspan, So we have to allow for witness interpretation
of the event. But the American India cultures believe that
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the Bigfoot is also into dimensional just crops in and
out and in. I can accept that as well, because
I accept the multiverse. When you look at all the
stuff I've read, you've got to accept a multiverse. There
isn't one answer to everything. And now I'm going to
throw a wild rabbit into the mix, the third version
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of Bigfoot. What the hell is the old pool going
to talk about? Now? We're going to go to France
in nineteen fifty four. Oh incidentally, Bigfoot in England is
called a Woodways or the green Man. Just for those
listeners who are still away. France, October nineteen fifty four,
during the largest UFO flap France has ever had. What
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are you talking about? We're talking about Bigfoot. We're not
talking about you UFOs, silly old fool. Anyway, I will continue.
There's the UFO. There were nine times. They are the
hundreds of UFO sighting and lots of apparent landing. Who
are sighted landings? The UFO bit Lands underground ramp comes out.
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Is it the big blonde guy from Venus or a
gray No, it's a four foot tall furry creature with
big eyes, a littlefoot. What does a little foot doing
coming out of a UFO bagat if? I know? As
I said, I just give you a reports that have
been published, and there are a lot of them. That
was nine rough for that month in France nineteen sixty
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eight ninety sixty nine, Pennsylvania around Union Town lots of
UFO reports and in a big family gathering one evening landing,
here it comes. And this time, seven years before Star
Wars was released and put into the human consciousness, comes
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an eight and a half to nine foot tall bigfoot.
I DANDAV was wearing a bandolero with bullets in it,
carrying a gun. It might not have been schue Barker,
but it might as well have been. And since that
period there have been continuous hairy hormond sightings in association
with u fos. That's three types of bigfoot, homegrown, into
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dimensional and imported. It's also an answer to the question.
So we got three answers as I can said, we
can keep the three answers. But if people don't like
that only're like one answer to one question, well there
can be multiple answers because once again, the data gives
you the answer. I can't say these hundreds of people
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are wrong, Sorry stuffed them and the American Indians they're
primitive and they're not half. They're not our civilization. That
would be rude. I wouldn't have that anyway. All of
that is inclusive three types, but the most common store
set isoud the anthropoid ape one, especially with the crown structure,
the muscular structure, the build of.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
That's one thing that I've had a really difficult time
for me is I like to check boxes. I like
to put things in boxes. I was in law enforcement
for sixteen years, so I have a cop brain.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
I didn't do anything.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
So when it comes to these creatures, I have always
planted my flag firmly in the flesh and blood camp,
if you will, the anthropoid apes. Yet during my experiences
last year, my encounter is one of the weird things
that happened was we saw two sets of glowing white eyes.
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And I'm not talking eye shine. I'm not talking about
to pay them loose at them reflected eye shine. I'm
talking about self illuminating glowing eyes. Then we threw on
our flashlights and I saw one of these creatures from
ten feet away. I know that's what it was that
really wrecked my theory, if you will, on these creatures.
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So I am definitely more open to having some of
those conversations. It just gets a little strange when you
are in the camp. I'm one of these people that
I would like for these things to be proven to
be real.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Just for myself.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
Selfishly and for science, because I think it is very important,
at least to me, for all of the people that
have had these encounters and people think they're batshit crazy,
there's really something out there. So that's a very important
thing for me. And I know not everybody's in this
for the same reason. There are plenty of people who
don't want these things recognized by science because they know
what tends to come with that, and they don't think
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that they need to be meddled with. They've been fine
without us for however long they've existed. They don't need
human beings in their life. And I totally get that,
but I have a really hard time wrapping my brain
around those three answers. There's three different types, if you will,
just like you eloquently explained. I have conversations with pe
people like Ron Moorehead, who I love. I've known Ron
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for years. He's into quantum physics. He wrote the book
Quantum Bigfoot, and he explains a lot of things in
the quantum realm, and it is way beyond Newtonian physics,
and most people don't wrap their brain around Newtonian.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
Physics, much less quantum physics.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
So it's very difficult, and that's why I think a
lot of people meet that with such resistance for a
myriad of reasons. Sometimes it's ignorance, but a lot of
times people do like to plant their flag and they
don't feel like moving it. But it looks like to
me that you do get into the quantum realm.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Is that accurate?
Speaker 3 (30:40):
Do you look at quantum physics and try to explain
some of these things that happen with Bigfoot and maybe
some of these other cryptids and maybe even the UFOs
or UAPs. Do you think maybe some of the answers,
maybe not all, but at least some of the answers
lie in quantum physics and quantum mechanics.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
And stay tuned for more sasque jealousy will be right
back after these messages.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
For short answer. And incidentally, in the late sixties, no higher,
there are reports of Bigfoot that every time they were shot,
they exploded in a flash of light, which is not
just isolated to our higher. It's been known to happen
at other times before. So let's look at quantum physic
(31:27):
Let's say you just bang, you've hit this big Foot
in Ohio. It's nineteen sixty eight and it disappear asn't
a flash of light? Did it retreat to another dimension,
did it dissipate? Did it just become total massive sabatomic
particles drifting away into the ether. Everything is quantum physics,
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Everything is harmonics. I have talked at times. You've heard
me recently you mentioned it discussing part of quantum physics. Yes,
that it's sort as simple as it's not as simple
as it That's why we've got three types. It could
even be more because in quintem physics we are responsible
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for the observation. The basis that kind of physics is
if you believe in a curved line theory of atomic structure,
or your experiments will come up with a curved line result,
if you believe in the straight line theory, where your
experiments come in with a straight line result. Sounds absurd
being published hundreds and hundreds of times, but it sounds
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totally absurd because quantum physics basically is based on the
entire universe and multiverse being just a system of different
vibrations at different speeds. Are solids. Not much of a
vibration going on there. Actually, it just sits there. Mind you.
The physicist bows he won a Nobel prize. I think
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is a research in physics in the early twentieth century,
so that even rocks have feelings or period of expansionar
contraction like muscle expansionar contraction. I don't know. These books
are a ass incomprehensible. A lot of physics is like that.
Academia cloaks itself in their own language. So you have rocks,
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artificial rockets called a coffee cup. I mean agitate those
atoms got liquids. I'm still thinking, what the hell is
it to agitate that? Again? Here? God gas, why are
you telling me that? I know that I learned an
elementary school. But did you remember to learn that there
are five states of matter? Oh? They didn't teach you,
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not even in senior high university. Oh, I might have
brushed past it. At the center of a nuclear explosions
a fifth state of matter. It's called pasma. Pasma is
where the gravitational bond between all the sub nuclear particles
are not bonded anymore. At the magnet grip has gone.
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You've got free form matter, but being produced by such
hideously high temperatures. Nothing can survive it. But that's their
bloody use is it. You just end up with huge
light and heat occasions. Here are another two theories. One
I used for years, but I've recently changed it that
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light and heat and exploding matter electrons, quarks, neutrons, neutrinos,
all the basic building blocks are exploding out and they
vibrate so far that they travel between dimensions, both SATs
of matter, and then I can try and explain which
I won't the latest fifth state of matter to replace
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the closer vacam I have mentioned for Bose. Einstein condemsated
a couple of years ago as a possible solution to
interdimensional travel due to its cold nature as well as
being a product of the harmonics of microwaves. I describe
it as electron magnetic harmonic resonance, and it explained and
removed problems with using plasma state and the necessary heat
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needed to enter other dimensions. That's a lot to take in.
That's my theory, and that way we don't have the
intense heat because it's all based on harmonics, and everything
in the universe is part of harmonics, and that's another
talk on its own. But where it is harmonics joined
together is where we get our interdimensional apes. So we're
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going to say I'm a wind to go, etc. Coming
through interdimensional openings to Earth. Are the UFO is bringing
the hairy creatures coming from other dimensions because the concept
of tirement space is obsurd and privative. I spend four
and a half years AT's bit of Light trying to
get just from Alpha centaur right to hear Alpa centorious
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and nearest neighbor. When we can find the correct harmonic level,
we're going through both sides at once, we're heres. I've
been writing about it the years. This is a program
on Bigfoot very fast times. I've had so many reports
on the immense speed they could do is virtually instant
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across a paddict we're clearing. How do we explain it?
Speaker 3 (36:17):
It's almost impossible to explain because I literally just had
this conversation with a guy I was interviewing earlier today.
We were talking about plasmoids because he had a UFO
experience as well in addition to some of his Bigfoot experiences.
So we were talking about plasma and plasmoids, and we
got a little bit into some quantum physics in our conversation,
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and I brought it up to him and it's something
we've talked about on this program. I host multiple podcasts.
I've talked about it over on that Bigfoot podcast with
my co host over there, is that bigfoot. They clearly
exist because I've seen them. So we're past that. We
checked that box. But here's the thing that's very difficult
for me to wrap my brain around. And this conversation
is helping me at least further my thought process because
(37:04):
in the animal kingdom, and this is the example I
gave him earlier when I was talking to Justin, is
you take an elephant humong us. Everybody already has this
mental picture of what an elephant looks like. They're huge,
they're strong, they're powerful, but they're slow. Then you take
a cheetah, much smaller, sleek, compact built for speed, one
(37:28):
of the fastest, if not the fastest, animal on the planet.
But neither of those animals possess what the other has.
A cheetah is the fastest thing, but it's not the strongest,
it's not the biggest, it's not the most powerful. Elephants big, strong, powerful,
not very fast. So here's the problem that I've had
(37:49):
this dichotomy of thoughts in my brain about Bigfoot how
is it that sasquatch Bigfoot has all of these things? Obviously,
if if we're trying to explain it in the most
basic terms, which is what I try to do, I'm
very simple minded as well. If you don't get into
or open yourself up to the fact that quantum physics
(38:13):
and mechanics exist and could explain some of these superabilities
that people often say that they experience with Bigfoot, nothing
else really makes sense because these creatures exist. So if
they exist in the physical form, they would be not
only an anomaly in and of itself that there are
(38:33):
some bipedal comminid, but they also have all of these
other superabilities. They're super fast, they're strong, they're big, they're powerful,
all of the above. It only makes sense to me
that we need to start looking in other directions, very
much like you're talking about, to explain some of those things.
And it's a very difficult conversation for me to have
(38:54):
on the show because a lot of my listeners don't
want to hear that that's not their answer. So it's
very fine line to try to bring people this data
and also not lose them at the same time. It's
a very hard thing to try to broach in the subjects.
I'm learning my way, stumbling through trying to have these conversations,
(39:16):
and maybe these kind of conversations with you may help
to ease people into that, because what we've been doing
for the last five or six decades looking for the
big ape in the woods hasn't worked for most people.
You can't just go out and find one and have
an experience. You certainly just can't go out and shoot one,
or somebody would have already done it and had it
on the loot of their pickup truck, and we would
(39:38):
all know that they exist. But that's not the case.
So how do you have those kind of conversations with
people who honestly don't want.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
To hear that. I'm not very good at banging my
head against a trade prunk bigfoot, if ibidrite that as
you can't understand it, Good on them. They're happy with
their interpretation, they're happy with their reality, and I acknowledge it.
I respect them for it. Concepts from beyond then and
(40:07):
they're really freaky, they're really strange, and they get stranger
as the science as a dat. They have already introduced Bigfoot,
Chewbaca coming out of UFAs. I didn't want to talk
about that, but that is what the data is leading to.
I've mentioned the Amerindian mythology of a wendigo fifty other
names as well. That's acknowledged by them. I'm not going
(40:28):
to deny the truth of what they have experienced or
see or believe, because that is there knowledge, their experience,
and they believe the same as the people who believe
he live it. He lives in the woods, and we
just haven't managed to shoot one yet. But as I said,
my research I found five that have been shot. One
in Colorado, I think in nineteen fifty eight. Young fellows
(40:51):
shot it, killed it, realized it looked like a man,
they buried it, and it took decades of a report
to come out. They're so scared of being arrested. Another
Siberian event shot killed. The two trappers realized it was
a bigfoot man, not just an ordinary man, and they
didn't bear in the body and wouldn't talk about it
(41:12):
for decades either. One of the most common themes, and
we haven't mentioned it yet. There's people who finally do
get to meet Bigfoot and they're about to try and
shoot Bigfoot, and they look at Bigfoot's eyes. They look
at Bigfoot's face and they say in the reports, and
there are lots of reports, I couldn't shoot him or
(41:33):
her or them because sometimes they are kids with them,
our family troops, or they didn't breed on their own.
Very difficult because they realized that they were looking at themselves.
They realized they we're looking at another version of humanity,
something that thinks and sees. You can't shoot yourself or
(41:55):
you'll kill yourself. They just can't do it. They realize,
I can't shoot the bigot, and that's the most common
shooting sighting we have. We're always going to have conjectures,
We're always going to have theories. I like just having
the amphroboid ape theory. I think it's lovely. The solves
so many problems, put some more than their boxes. And
(42:17):
it's he hides well and he knocks over bins and
eats things, and what other scavenger doesn't if there's food there,
I mean the bears to it. Who would it. In Australia,
we've got a bird called I called the binchook. The
chook is Australian for a chicken, so it's called in
polite society of a bin chicken. Well, you call it
(42:38):
the binchook because we're more primitive and not that well educated,
and we prefer using the vernacular. And that is just
Denibus with a long beak and the black head. And
he looks a bit weird, but he gets into the
garbage in the middle of the cities. He owns Sydney,
which is a capin to live near South Wales. You
see them everywhere in the parks, walking in and out
(42:59):
of shops and cafes, and people to say, yes's it's
a big drug. And yet I've seen American tourists looking
to say, what's that, Harry, It's ugly and this seems
looking up and then we've probably what the hell are
you two? But it's different ways of looking, different ways
of reacting.
Speaker 3 (43:17):
I want to talk about one of your books. There
are tons, I think you said, one hundred and forty
books out on Amazon.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
Now.
Speaker 3 (43:25):
There's one from twenty twenty three called The Little Book
of Lost Giants of North America. Can you talk a
little bit about that. I'm curious what can people expect
when they pick that up?
Speaker 2 (43:35):
But it's a little book, all right. I write big books.
I've written books at the seventeen hundred pages. But instead
of giving you, as we drove down into the Luscus
Valley with the beautiful flaring gun breeze around and there's
the streme wound down the course, we could see the
geology and hold him by God. Three days later or
(43:56):
six pages, who actually get to I did say a
big footstanding the stump. My book's average seven or eight
bigfoot reports or anomalous creature reports or UFO reports a page.
You're going to have Florence syndrome by the time you
start reading it, because my book's batter your brain. And
the funny thing is, I've had so many reports every
(44:18):
years that people say, just when I think you're right,
and I believe you, and this answers the question, you
come up with a new question and destroy the old one,
because I do. We have to get to the truth,
and you have to demolish concepts on the way a
little book of the Lost Giants. I've been interviewed by
another person who's a good interviewer. I enjoy these interviews.
(44:39):
But a few years ago now and he said, I
only send a book on the Lost Giants of North America.
For a while I said, I whipped my nup. I've
got a big database. I can do amazing things very fast.
So that weekend I whipped up the little book of
Lost the Giants of North America and publish it on Amazon.
Speaker 4 (44:59):
Stating more sasquat jotausy, we'll be right back after these messages.
Speaker 2 (45:07):
He wanted it bexres a giant convention somewhere a couple
of months later. Okay, no worries here. It is most
of them are seven and a half eight and a
half foot tall. There are lots of legends that were
all taken out of the mounds where they were found
and taken to the Smithsonian and never seen again. There
(45:30):
were that all the time. I mentioned our old mates
at Lovelock, and I think seven other caves nearby, tall
redheaded giants or part of Amerindian legends state that we
killed them because they were attacking the women, killing people.
These giants didn't send them the happiest creatures. And yet
(45:52):
our giant were they as giants the aDNA who appeared
on the Saint Lawrence Seaway six and a half to
seven half foot tall on average. Remember, at the turn
of the nineteenth to the twentieth century. The average American
male height was five foot four inches in the seventeenth
century when they first came over the spread pestilence across
(46:14):
the land. But that's another story. There were less than
five feet. So you meet a six and a half
to seven and a half foot tall American India. But
the adena they're giants, and people have said, oh no,
but we've got reports of them being twenty foot tall,
thirty foot tour. So we don't even have bigfoot bat
tour because the skeletal structure will collapse. By the time
(46:38):
they're twelve or thirteen foot tall. They start having huge
prodence in blood circulation and bodily organ function. I got
three diplomas in anatomy and physiology just in case any
and asking I researched for subjects. These days, you're look
an eight and a half foot tall person. It's an
a league basketballer. Different die. Maybe it's a great foremone
(47:02):
in the chickens. A lot of people reckon that they
eat a lot of chicken. The giants were supposed to
be a race that were destroyed by the American Indians
all over North America. They were not. In many cases
the mound builders, where a lot of mounds were found
with giant remains in them. They are said to be counnibalistic.
(47:22):
The other authors have devoted their lives to writing about them.
I just got all the datro had on giants and
chucked them in this little book of Giants to give
you an idea of what's been researched, what's been found,
and you can head off to the bibliography and find
everything else you want. That's the other good thing about bibliographies.
They help you expand the hunt. I like reading bibliographies.
(47:45):
They tend to buy the books in the bibliographies because
there the sauces.
Speaker 3 (47:50):
All right, You've got way too many titles for us
to say them all here. However, can you go down
the list of specifically bigfoot stuff, tell people what you've
written on the subject of bigfoot sasquatch giants and where
people can find them, and I will certainly link to
it in the show notes so everybody can pick them up.
Speaker 2 (48:12):
Okay. I have written quite a few books on monsters
of the East Coast, North America, North coast, South coast,
West Coast. I eventually found that was eighteen hundred pages
of different monsters and bigfoots, et cetera. And then I
decided to tidy up the bigfoots into the Amazing Bigfoot
Encounters of the US. It's twenty and three hundred and
(48:33):
thirty one pages in nine volumes, with maps. I like maps.
You can see in maps everything that's happened where they are.
The fourho one Lost People maps for the same. The
area where they are. It is basically desert, no trees
and open areas. You're not going to get me bigfoots
there giants if you want to look at giant remains
(48:55):
in more detail. I got a lovely fat book. We
only trouble with writing sandy books, as I forget their names.
Is See Atlas The Strange and Mysterious Archaeology of North America.
It's state by state, county by county. It's designed say
you can just head off and go to your state,
go to your county, and look, good, God, what is
(49:17):
in my neighborhood? Who gives you a lead to what
you could find? But you've got to do for research
to find out more about it. Oh, my books are roadmaps.
They help you wander along to where you need to go.
I've got another book I really love, and that is
pre Columbian River Explorers of North America, which is a
(49:37):
great lady your book. It's another fat thing as well.
My book's are four fifty five hundred and six hundred
pages on a had a lot of data in them.
I have had auto maps and are collated all the
anomalous architecture to do with rivers and lakes and coasts
of North America. And I started up north at bath
(49:58):
and Island, only a short skip and way from Guarded,
the capital of Iceland, and headed along the coast and
headed further down the coast, headed around Florida into the Bahamas,
headed back up to Mississippi, headed up the Mississippi, up
the Missouri, up the Ohio into the Great Lakes, and
(50:21):
out through the Saint Lawrence Seaway. Then we headed down
the Mississippi to the Gulf of Mexico, around Texas, shut
around the California by New Mexico up to Canada. And
that was the end of the book. I have maps
in it that show where there remains of Viking remained,
(50:43):
Roman remains, Celtic remains, Phoenician remains, room stones, many things.
And then when you look at the geology at the
area and climatic conditions at the time in that area.
You start adding together a lot of archaeologists forget we
have wet periods that last hundreds of years. We had
(51:05):
dry periods at last hundreds of years. And the geology
changes constantly and the climatology changes costly. Do you know
that you could take a ship good sized Scandinavian noor
sixty tons go to Lake Michigan via the Saint Lawrence River.
It's just north of Chicago in the pluvial period of
(51:26):
a medieval period Brandy period in Shorthand. You could virtually
float that thing to the day Plains River. You've just
been to the copper mines at Isla, Royale and Michigan,
which are the biggest copper workings on earth that stopped
in fifteen hundred BC at the end of the Iron
Age in Europe. Interesting, and then you go straight down
(51:51):
the day planes the Illinois to the Mississippi out they
go for Mexico onto the Gulf Stream. Home in Europe
in ancient times, rivers season lakes for the super highways
too hard to carry, break over mountains and rocks and
things just go up a river interesting. You get to
stand points of rivers in North America and multiple remains
(52:14):
of different cultures because they're trying to forward a waterfall
or something like that. They're all in the book. If
it be ad. I had to go through ancient mats
to try and find where some of these rivers went to,
and they went there in the medieval period. The lakes
in Minnesota were enormous, the same in Canada. You'd float
(52:35):
almost anywhere and we know what we're found. So so
that's just one example. But it's fun looking at the
mats and where things go. I'm working on doing a
spoken book on it, but my voice dies after an hour.
Everything's a challenge. Very true.
Speaker 3 (52:53):
Definitely one of the most interesting conversations I've had in
quite a while.
Speaker 4 (52:58):
George.
Speaker 3 (52:58):
I cannot thank you for sharing all of your knowledge
experience in the books. You guys, go out and pick
up George's books. Go buy all one hundred and forty.
I will link to George's books on Amazon. You guys,
click the link, go pick them up. George, thank you
so much for taking the time to come on. I've
had a blast talking to you.
Speaker 2 (53:16):
Thank you for the experience to be on. Please thank
Leilah who recommended you. She's a wonderful woman. Just a
word of warning to people. My books aren't written for intellectuals.
I don't like intellectuals. I want the average person to
understand my books and enjoy them, because that's sort of
knowledge has been hit by the intellectuals. We're letting it out,
(53:37):
we're letting it on the ass, so to say.
Speaker 5 (53:40):
They say, you don't have to go home, but you
can't stay.
Speaker 6 (54:00):
Stay inside step steps, inside.
Speaker 7 (54:12):
Steps, chart, this child, that chart, Everything came right back,
right back.
Speaker 5 (54:24):
Joy for me, Joy, stay right there, you come in
right away.
Speaker 8 (54:35):
Still still sta s s S S S sayss
Speaker 5 (55:18):
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