SO EP:633 Bigfoot Threw Our Sled!

 In this episode, Fred from shares some  intriguing accounts of eerie encounters in Alaska. Jack from the Bristol Bay area revisits his grandfather's cabin only to experience unsettling interactions with a 'Hairy Man.' He details the strange happenings around Paxton Lake and the North Pole near Fairbanks.

Conrad, a bush pilot and friend of Doug, the pilot, recounts his bizarre experiences near the Brooks Range, where he felt stalked and intimidated by shadowy figures mimicking noises and making their presence known. Both stories emphasize the growing sense of dread and unexplained phenomena that leave the men feeling watched and threatened during their wilderness adventures.

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 00:00 Introduction and Recent Reports 00:30 Jack's Encounter at the Cabin 03:09 The Harry Man Returns 05:45 A Terrifying Night 15:04 Escape from the Cabin 22:00 Conrad's Story Begins 26:02 Eerie Mimicry in the Wilderness 27:05 Unsettling Movements and Paranoia 30:27 Strange Sounds and Shadows 33:40 Confronting the Unknown 37:40 A Night of Terror 42:24 Escape to the Tundra 50:01 The Aftermath and Reflection

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now one of your pudding. I got a string going
on here, something just cause my dog. Something killed your dog,
my dog. We're flying through the air over the tree.
I don't know how it did it, Okay, Damn, I'm
really confused. All I saw was my dog coming over
the fence and he was dead. And once you hit
the ground like, I didn't see any cars. All I
saw was my dog coming over the fence. Sat what

(00:38):
are you putting? We got some wonder or something crawling
around out here? Did you see what it was or
was it was? Standing enough? I'm out here looking through
the window now and I don't see anything. I don't
want to go outside. Jesus quice you bick Hello, get

(01:03):
somebody out here.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
What quent on out there?

Speaker 1 (01:06):
It's thought of a bit just about ticking fort nine?
I don't know. Easy him out there, yeah right.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
Hey, greetings spread Alaska. Thanks for joining me. Some quick
updates here Packson Lake. There was recent reports the trailer
on the west side of the lake. Some people were
paced out, a lot of weird noises made at them.
Also up not too far from North Pole, there's some reports,
so just be aware. There's fresh reports out of North

(01:32):
Pole near Fairbanks and also packs in Lake. Both areas
have historically speaking of plenty of reports. I just wanted
to get those out what I wanted to assure with
you today. We'll name him Jack. He's from the Bristol
Bay area. His uppa left him a cabin many years
ago when he was a kid, and his upper would

(01:53):
tell him stories about dealing with the Harryman at the cabin.
He would always warrn Jack that, hey, when you go
to the cabin, be aware it likes to look in
the windows. It likes to bang the cabin that has
n't taken anything, but watch your fish and stuff like that.
He believed his uppa, he just never dealt with it himself.
So after it's up a passed, he had access to

(02:15):
the cabin. He went there to kind of relift some memories,
check out what condition it was in, and it was
in great condition. So one of the things that his
up had told him was this one night, so this
is pre statehood, his upper was in there. He was
getting ready to run a trap line. It was wintertime.
He had chosen his route. He was going in there,

(02:37):
hardy snowshoe, that kind of stuff which is work man
especially with all the snow. He told Jack that on
this particular trap line he had to look out because
once you pass this little creek, once you get on
the other side of that creek, if you ever set
up traps on that side, you'll lose the firs. The
harry Mann will take them, will thrash your traps and whatnot.
And he took that like a grain of salt, right

(02:59):
because his Up told him that once he went beyond
that creek and tried to trap there, the first few
sets were excellent, so he progressed a little further. It
was about the third set that he had made over
the course of a couple of weeks, all of a
sudden everything was torn to tatters. Every single trap was
tripped and broken and busted apart, and all this crazy

(03:20):
stuff right along with a couple of sightings at a
distance screaming, start throwing stuff. Is Up made his way
out of there. This thing had followed him back to
the cabin at one point was screaming at him and
banging the walls. Tried the door a couple of times.
His UP put a couple shots up into the door
jam to basically make noise, and the thing took off.

(03:41):
He shared with Jack multiple instances of those kind of
behaviors coming from this particular group of harry Man or
this hairy man that was past this creek. Jack he
kept that in mind when he went there. So when
Jack went to this cabin and was sitting there trying
to figure out what he was going to do, just
keep it recreational, maybe trap out of it if the
prices were good or whatever. On this particular trip, Jack

(04:04):
had his wife with them. She was pregnant at the
time they were basically setting things up. It was in
the springtime. That time of year we get a lot
of daylight, so he was very comfortable after a few
days going around the cabin. Of course, he always carried
a bear gun because it's freaking Alaska, It's what it is.
He said that he was about one hundred yards away

(04:26):
from the cabin on this old trail, that this particular
trail is up was warning him about don't cross the
creek because you'll draw it back, And so he wasn't
really thinking about that warning until he actually had walked
past this creek a little ways, remembered what was up
I told him, and then came back across the creek,
milled around the cabin some more and whatnot. He decided,

(04:48):
because understand, this creek isn't right next to the cabin.
He had initially walked further away from the cabin, crossed
this creek, remembered, then came back and so as he
was about one hundred yards from the cabin, a sudden
he's seen dark movement back. It was off to the
right hand side of what he could see of the cabin.
I was obscured by trees and everything, and so he said,
he was looking and he saw a dark shadow moving

(05:09):
that was very big. At first he was like, who
the hell is that? So he starts heading back towards
the cabin again. He's got approximately one hundred yards to cross.
It's a mixed bag of terrain. He got the mossy
tundra under his feet, all the density of the trees,
he got black spruce, birch willow alders. He was making
his way through, making his way back over. This is

(05:31):
before everything fully bloomed and totally obscured all his vision,
he said. When he got to about just hollering distance
from the cabin, he started yelling out, hey, what do
you want? Because this figure had moved and he's seen
it stop behind a little batch of trees back on
the backhand side of the cabin, which would you're facing
the cabin ord be off to the left, but he

(05:52):
was back off the corner of the right back hand side.
He said, as he was yelling, this thing moved away.
It was big. So he had the flashbacks of the
Harryman warnings and all that from his grandpa. I just
crossed that this thing had to have already been over here,
It was his thought process at the time. He didn't
want to startle his wife, so he goes inside and
calmly brings up, Hey, you remember all the stories I

(06:15):
tell you about my Uppa and harry mat stuff. She understood,
She was like yeah. She of course believed, because there's
no reason for this old man to light at them
for nothing. So he explains what he just witnessed, what
he saw that he had crossed that creek. The timeframe,
it seemed odd and he thought maybe it was already
watching them. So he warns her and she asked that
he leave a loaded gun with her whenever he goes

(06:37):
out of the cabin, which he already did, but he
made it more readily available, just laid on the table there.
So they talked for a little bit. And as they
were talking and having this discussion, he watched it move
away at a fast clip, so he didn't think it
was still in the immediate area. He thought he had
scared it off. Basically, that wasn't the case. As he
was talking to his wife, she's in front of him

(06:59):
in and he's standing and behind him, off his right
hand shoulder is this window, and this is broad daylight.
It's approximately ten to eleven in the morning. Jack said,
as he's talking to his wife, she's sitting there looking
back at him in his direction. He knows her eyes,
her whole head turned and he noticed shadowing from behind
with this window. He turns around and looks, and all

(07:22):
he sees is this darkness moved from in front of
the window out of view of the window. There was
no figure to make out or anything. It was just
darkness and then moved, which it was moving around to
the front of that cabin. He said that when that happened,
he had this rush of primal fear that made him

(07:42):
start shaking. Even his wife said she sensed it that
this thing was there to run them off, get rid
of them. Is the feeling they had. I asked if
there was anything specific that made him feel that way,
and he said it was the energy in the air.
He felt like out of place, unwelcome. He said, it
was ugly. So he grabs a rifle, showing his wife's

(08:04):
safety and all that kind of stuff. Click, safety off.
He grabs that rifle and it was open sights. He
flings open the front door and goes out it looking
for this thing. He sees nothing. He goes around the cabin,
he said. The whole time he was outside the cabin,
going around the little trails around the cabin, looking off
in the distance through the brush, he kept feeling like
he was being watched, but he couldn't figure out where

(08:28):
this presence was. He could feel it, he just couldn't
pinpoint it as he was looking around. Now, as he
came from the back side of the cabin towards the front,
he heard a weird noise up above him on the roof.
So as he's moving along, he noticed the way the
sunlight was hitting the cabin. He could see his shoulder

(08:50):
shadow off the edge, the drip edge of this cabin right,
So he's walking along under the drip edge. The sunlight
is basically straight above, and he could see the shadow
of his shoulder running along with the drip line. He
stopped because he noticed this bulbous kind of extension of
a shadow popping out. He said. He understood this thing
was on the damn roof, and he didn't know how

(09:11):
it got there, So he walks to the front, he said.
He calmly stopped. Once he got up to the front,
turned around and swung the rifle up and started pulling
up to the roof and then backing away from the cabin.
He said. As he backed away, he got about fifteen
feet back and was looking up and it was approximately
nine to twelve pitch on. This roof was fairly steep.

(09:33):
Now understand this roof was old school style. I guess
it would be tar paper down. A lot of times
people use pecker poles and run them and they'll lay
down plywood sometimes or whatever they have around. Then tar paper,
and over the tar paper they'll put tundra. They'll stack
it up. That's the style roof he had initially, he
ended up changing it. As he was backing up looking

(09:54):
up the roof, he said, he noticed this thing would
peek up from the other side of the the roof.
For the life of him, he said, he was struggling
to garner the courage to point the rifle in that
direction because he was looking and it would pop its
head up. He couldn't make it out because again, the
way the sun was beaming down, it was all silhouette,
so all he saw was a dark shape of a

(10:15):
head poking up from the opposite side of the ridge
of the roofline. He said, it freaked him out. He said,
screw this. This thing is literally on the roof. My
wife is inside pregnant. I don't know if the roof
is going to hold this thing. So he runs over
to the other side to where he can see the
other side of this ridge. When he raised the rifle up,
this thing stood up, turned and leapt off of the roof,

(10:37):
tore up patches of it when it jumped off, landed
in the brush just out of view, and took off.
He heard it craft crash, so immediately he runs inside.
His wife had already backed off into the corner, and
she said, I heard it grunting when you were walking
around the cabin. She said, she was too scared to
say anything and yell out because she was so petra

(11:00):
she could hear the creaking of its weight, adjusting of
moving on the roof. So he calms it down and says,
I ran it off. This thing obviously it comes here
a lot and never did anything to Uppah. It freaked
him out a few times, but it never caused him injury.
So let's just calm down, figure out what we want
to do. Obviously she did not want to stay. He said,

(11:21):
I understand, give me a little time. We'll leave in
the morning. First thing, I want to button things up,
make sure that this thing doesn't destroy what up left me.
She reluctantly agreed. We'll leave it at that. There's a
little bit of a back and forth on that, so
Jack said. Once they agreed, he went outside real quick
and started putting these boards back over the windows. As

(11:44):
he was doing that, as he was banging with the hammer,
resetting these things back up to cover the windows so
bears didn't get in. As he was doing that. Often
the distance, as he was banging with the hammer, he
would stop and be doing something else, grabbing some more
nails or whatever, and he would hear an imitation of
that knocking sound the hammer banging sound off in the distance,

(12:07):
and he said it was the exact same cadence, the
exact same pitch, tempo, everything it matched. So it was
like an echo, but not in real time. It was
really mind boggling, and it intrigued him a little bit.
So he got the one side done, he moves around
to the other side. He's bringing the rifle with him.
He's leaning against the cabin as he's doing the second window,

(12:27):
and he said, bam, something hit this board. He was
just getting ready to lift very hard. He couldn't make
it out because whatever hit bounced off and went over
his head. He dropped it, grabbed the rifle, turned around,
started yelling, hey, I'm over here, You're gonna get shot.
All this stuff, I say, all this stuff bleed me.
It was worse than the sailor. He was cussing up
a storm, yelling out. As this is going on, he

(12:49):
starts to hear a movement directly in front of him,
but it's moving from directly in front of him off
to his left. He said it had to have been
about twenty five yards, and at this particular spot it
was the thickest portion of woods just so happens. The
path back to the river runs along right beside this area,
So here's a move into that real dense vegetation area.

(13:11):
And starts yelling again, Hey, I hear you over there.
I know you're over there. If I see you again,
I'm gonna shoot you. You need to leave. It was
just dead quiet, so he said his peace. He goes
back over He's having a really hard time turning his
back to those trees, so he goes and gets the wife. Says, hey,
I need your help. I just need you to keep
an eye out with the rifle when my back's turned

(13:33):
to keep an eye out over here. She again reluctantly agreed.
She comes outside and she's holding the rifle. He does
this thing uneventful. They go back inside. Now their only
view outside is with the door open. The two windows
that are in this cabin are now covered. They're inside.

(13:54):
She had lit this lamp together all this stuff because
it's dark inside. Even with the door open, it only
let so much light in. The corners were still dark.
If she had to get in drawers and stuff like that. Right,
they're doing their thing collecting their stuff. As that's happening.
He had left the door open. He's more paying attention
to the open door, waiting see if there's any shadow

(14:14):
movements or anything like that. She's getting stuff packed back
up into their totes and stuff. Bam, the whole place
shakes and he could tell that this thing had just
hit the board he put up on that side of
the cabin, which, if you're facing the cabin straight on it,
he'd be off to the left hand side, the same
side that the trees are that this thing pasd over into,

(14:36):
and he could hear it over there right. Whatever's going on,
it's not stopping. So he goes outside with the rifle
to that side, and as he's looking again, all of
a sudden he noticed the shadow. The thing got up
on the roof again. They didn't hear it. They didn't
hear a weight shift, a creek or any of that stuff.
Typically you would think something that heavy you get up

(14:57):
on the roof, you're going to hear the weight distribute.
None of that was heard. This thing was just up there.

Speaker 3 (15:04):
And stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see, we'll
be right back.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
After these messages, he saw it shadow again. He backs
away from the cabin, raises his rifle and again, it
jumps off the back. He runs around the back and
shoots a shot. Boom, fires off in that direction. It's
dead quiet. He's got ringing going on in his ears now,

(15:28):
and he's having a hard time hearing. But he's not
hearing movement along with the ring right, nothing a loud
enough to overcome that ringing in his ear at the moment.
His wife screamed when she heard the shot, because once
he raised the rifle then there was obvious movement on
the roof that you could hear, feel of see and
all that, right, so she screams. After he lets off

(15:50):
the shot, he's looking, he's not hearing anything, and he
gets really wigged out and gets back inside, and as
he's sitting there talking to his wife, she tells him,
how does it keep getting on the roof? How does
it do that? Again, they have no clue. The roofline
itself at the backside is probably at the drip edge,
probably six seven foot off the ground. Up at the

(16:11):
front's probably nine foot be physics sat on a little
bit of a slope and they're trying to figure out
how this thing quietly got up there. At that point,
his wife was over the debate. She's not going to
stay until morning, She's not staying any longer. She's ready
to go. He agrees, tells her, Hey, we'll do this
loading up together. So what they did is next to

(16:32):
the cabin there was an old snow machine sled and
it was on runners and stuff. It was older style,
more like a tobog and like a work sled where
you can put a bunch of heavy stuff on there
and strap it down. It didn't really have sideboards or
anything like that. It was just a flat great sled.
It was pretty heavy. They decided they're going to put
as much stuff on there and help drag it to
make a few trips as possible back and forth for

(16:55):
their stuff. Now, they didn't have a whole lot of stuff,
but what they had was detrimental items that they brought
from home. She brought a bunch of stuff because she
didn't know what condition the cabin was in or what
was there. Just so happened. They needed that stuff back
at home as well. She was more concerned about that.
It got to a point where they were loading up
this sled, getting ready to help each other drag it.

(17:17):
So as they got everything out, he buttoned up the
rest of the cabin. He nailed the door shut, put
the paddle loock on it. He didn't go up under
the roof to take the chimney stack down and put
a coffee can over. None of that, and decided he'd
do that later. As they dragged this sled, they're going
by that thick batch of trees where he heard this
thing pace over after the thing through whatever at the

(17:40):
cabin when he was putting up the board. So when
they get to that area, they were both pretty spooked,
and he kept stopping and dropping because it was basically
a tongue that would attach to the snow machine or
to a tow line if you don't know what I'm
talking about. It's a frame shaped and it's on hinges.
It's where it can attach, and as the sled's going
over bumps, it can articulate a sing. Every once while

(18:01):
he would drop it, bring the rifle up because he's
using one hand karen rifle with the other. He'd drop it,
grab the rifle point in that direction. Because they kept
feeling like they're being watched, and they kept hearing stuff,
but they couldn't make it out. He chalked it up
to paranoia. Finally he was like, okay, after two or
three times within ten feet of doing that, he goes,
let's go. And he was keeping his wife away from

(18:21):
the wooded side where this noise was coming from. He
couldn't pinpoint how far in there or none of that.
He was on the verge of being hyper emotional because
he had his wife there. He was worried about her safety.
Just this weird shit happening, right, he said. They made
a hard effort. They got within about forty yards of
where the boat was tied off. They figured that was

(18:43):
good enough. What he was going to do is have
his wife stay over by the edge of the river
bank where the skiff was tied up, and standing there
with the rifle as he made the trips back and
forth from this slg. As he was doing that, trying
to be as quick as he can, because he was
bringing the stuff over, jumping down, putting it in the
skiff just to pack it. Instead of staging it there
and then packing it into the skiff. He was just

(19:04):
doing it all at once, he said. He was just
going over to the sled for the last little bit
of stuff left on there, and he was going to
flip the sled over and tip it over. He gets
over there, he grabs a little more in a handful
of stuff. It was basically a little day bag in
a sweater and something else. He threw it over one
arm and was trying to lift this sled with one

(19:25):
hand and flip it over, and it wasn't working, so
he said, screw it. He turns around starts walking back.
He said he was about twenty feet from his wife
and she had knelt down on one knee and started
raising the rifle. So he started moving out of her
line of sight and kind of slowly looking over his shoulder.
He said, when he looked back just past the sled,

(19:45):
he's not far from it. So from his vantage point,
this is twenty twenty five feet, there's some alder shrubs there.
This thing was squatted down and was using his hand
to push the brush down a little bit and do
this number It would it's it's hand pushed the brush
lift up and then do this. It was doing it
like at a regular cadence. He said. It was like

(20:06):
every two seconds. It was doing that to his wife.
Holds her fire. If it comes at me, shoot, If not,
just keep an aim on it or whatever. He gets
up to his wife takes a rifle from her. He
looks back and it's still doing the same thing. He
tells her to untie, get in the skiff, had her
fire up the skiff. They're letting it warm up a
little bit. As he's standing, he's keeping an eye on
this thing, and it's not doing anything overtly aggressive. It's

(20:28):
just putting its hand up, pushing down the brush, peeking
over and doing this number over and over. He said
it seemed it didn't know what it wanted to do,
like was unsure of itself. That's the energy, he said.
It just felt real weird, like if something was uncertain
going on. It's warmed up enough now and he's having
a hard time turning his back on this thing. So
what he does is he tries to make her so bigger.

(20:50):
I'll start screaming, hey, you just get back. His wife's
telling him get the hell out of the boat. Let's go.
Gets right there. I'm scared to turn my back on it.
She was like, okay, it which, hey, I'm with his wife,
pop Is asked. Instead doing that, he does this gonna
scare you away thing again, right, which it did not work.
The second time he did it. This thingk was just

(21:12):
putting his hand up and peeking up when he did
that the second time, and then it just stood up.
He said the brush itself was about six seven foot,
not all that overly large, But he said when it
stood up and he could see its real height, because
before he was estimating at a distance, he could tell
it was big. The shadow was big. When it jumped
off the roof, he could tell it was big, but

(21:32):
he had no reference of its standing still to garner
its size. He said it had to have been eleven
twelve foot talk. He said, it just seemed like it
kept rising and rising. He jumps down and he pushes off.
She gets out of the way. He takes the rifle
from him, He gets into the back, backs out. They
circle around, and they're looking back at shore and they
see nothing. They go up river a little ways because

(21:55):
this particular channel just the way he had backed away
and was paying attention, and he wasn't going the right
direction initially, so he started going up river. It on
him a little ways up. He turns around, comes back.
As he was going back by, he told his wife,
keep your eye out in case it's standing there. Or whatever,
just in case. As they're coming back around to the

(22:16):
slight bend to where they can see their little landing area,
they see that toboggan, that freight sled just flinging right
on through the air, just cabluche into the water. He
said that sled was heavy, it was hard to drag.
It was at least a couple hundred pounds, and it
was flung like nothing, just absolutely nothing. He said. The

(22:37):
way it hit in the river, it hit real near
a little gravel bar area. So when it hit, it
hit and stuck a little bit and then dropped down
and then tried to float. He figured, hey, it'll drip
down somewhere. He wasn't going to stop in that moment.
They kept going and he was looking back up at
the river bank trying to see if they could see it.
I feel standing out in the open or anything anymore.
They didn't see anything, and they just got the hell

(22:59):
out of there. I want to thank Jack for reaching
out again Paxson Lake. If you guys are going out
fall hiking that west trail, there's fresh reports of being
paced strange noises. I'll try to get more definite information
about the North Pole area. Where another person had some
stuff going on. Try to get you guys a little

(23:19):
better information on that. I want to share it to
you today. Comes from we'll call him Conrad. Now this
is actually a follow up to Doug the pilot who
said he was going to reach out to some of
his friends get them to speak up. Conrad being a
bush pilot, he did for a number of years, about
sixteen seasons. He would fly in clients, fly in supplies

(23:42):
and stuff like that to various remote hunting camps and
spike camps for the guides and all this. Right, he
was basically freelancing. He really enjoyed it. When you tuck
certain things away in your mind's eye and you leave
it alone, it's real easy year to you for it
to wash out. Exactly what day, what time, and all

(24:03):
that kind of stuff. So approximately six years ago now
with Conrad, what he had done is he had flew
out clients, he flew out supplies, and he had four
days where he basically wasn't doing nothing. He knew two
of those days he's going to be weathered in. So
he went to a spot. He asked that I not
divulged this spot. We'll just say it is not too

(24:27):
far from the Brooks Range, and we'll just leave it
at that. At this time he was on floats, so
he landed. He had his little supplies ready for him
to just take a couple of days to himself be
alone in the wilds. He was armed for bear. He
was prepared in every way except his first day after

(24:47):
he landed, the winds picked up and he knew the
weather was changing. So he did his preparations with his
plane and all that kind of stuff, and then he
hiked approximately one mile to get to this particular or
patch of trees to where he had camped before. He
really liked the area because it blocked him from the wind.
He can have a fire if it rained real hard.

(25:09):
He already had some stringers set up for his tarp
to where he could have a good fire and not
have it melt this tarp, but yet stay dry and
keep the fire going right without all the wood getting
soaked wet. So Conrad said, as he's hiking into this
place and he gets about a quarter mile away, he said,
he started feeling like he was being watched. So he
was stopping and looking around see if he was being

(25:31):
stocked by a bear. He said, the feelings he got
initially were just little twinges of Man, why do I
feel like I'm being watched? He chalked it up to
maybe I just spooked myself somehow. He was just dismissing
it away, which he says he'll never do again. However,
he continues on the last quarter mile where he had
had this particular camp. He had these stringers set up

(25:52):
for his tarp because he had a basic wall tent
that was ten by twelve. He didn't have a woodstove
for it, but it was nice canvas and easy to
set up for him just one person. He had this
particular pole that he had run to the top. Now,
anyone who's used these wall tents from like Alaska tent
and tarp, it has the big openings at the top
so he can run something through it, and then you
got the tie offs and all that kind of stuff, right,

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He was looking for the pole and the tie ups.
He found the strings that were still attached to the
particular trees, but they had a whole bunch of weird
knots and twists and all sorts of stuff, And he
was thinking the wind didn't do this just because of
the intricacy of how it was all knotted and woven together.
He found the pole that he had used a few

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times for this particular tint, but he said he walked
past it a few times because it had been driven
into the ground and it looked like just a broken
old tree there, but it was actually about a twelve
foot pole only had about three feet sticking out of
the ground. He said. He tried to pull it out
after he realized what it was, and he couldn't get
it the budge, and so he left it. And he

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was as perplexed now as he went to to cut
down another small tree to make use to set up
his tent, he said he got that tinge of being
watched again. Now he's in the middle of these trees,
a lot of black spruce, a little bit of alders,
a little bit of willows, but it was mainly black spruce,
and it was real dense because the trees stuck on

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each other, and they're all dark, so it's really hard
to see beyond maybe twenty feet at the most. He's
peeking around. He felt like whatever was watching him was
like right on top of him and just wasn't seeing anything.
So being distracted like that, he stopped what he was doing.
He backed away from what he was doing and made

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sure he had rounds in the chambers of his weapons.
He said, when he was checking the bolt action of
the rifle he was using, it was a three thirty
eight win mag When he locked the bolt, he heard
an imitation of that click sound from off in the distance.
He said it was very strange because it was almost

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but not quite but too loud, and at first he
didn't recognize it as a mimic of that bolt until
he thought about it for a second. And then as
he's standing there, he opened the bolt again, not all
the way to expel the around or anything like that,
not too ejected, but just popped it up and then
did it again and listened and heard nothing, and he thought, wow,

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maybe I'm hyper paranoid. I'm overthinking this. Maybe I just
need to chill out for a second. So he decides
he's gonna sit down and take a break. As he's
doing so, there's something just in his mind going something mate, right,
something mate right. From what he was saying, after about
ten to fifteen minutes to just sitting there, he didn't
feel relaxed. He didn't calm down at all. If anything,

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he felt things were heightened, things were escalating, even though
there's nothing that happened outside of that sound he heard.
That's all that has happened, right, And so he's trying
to console himself and say, hey, man, what are you doing.
You're getting worked up for nothing. You're out here. You've
been out here before. There's never been a problem in
the area. He's dealt with wolves a couple times, but

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they always stayed their distance and took off. Never were
really a new sence or he didn't feel in any
real danger from him. So he said, as he was
sitting there in about the fifteen minute mark, he's g
estimating because he was lost in his thoughts. Off to
his left, he noticed movement.

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It's one of the black spruce kind of wiggling right,
which was odd because there was no wind at the moment.
None of the other ones were wiggling. Just one about
third row back, if you were to count him, it
was about the third tree back from his opening that
he saw wiggling. Got his attention. He starts looking, stands
up and he's looking that direction. He said, at that

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moment he felt like he was being watched again. Even stronger,
but he felt it coming from behind him, so he
whips around and looks there's nothing there. So he stands
there a minute. Then there's a wind gust and the
tree start moving, and he laughs at himself because he
just assumed, Okay, there must have been a gust over
here that I didn't notice. Had just caught my attention.

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I need to calm him down. I'm freaking myself out.

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So again, he takes a moment. He had one of
these little stoves that he can quickly boil up some coffee,
so he did that. He figured, all right, I'm just
gonna make some coffee, take a breather, and then I'll
get back to finishing setting up camp. He said, once
he got done with this coffee, he felt a lot better.
He was a lot more reassured that he's just buying,
and he goes back over to the tree he had

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hatchets off a bunch of limbs from that he's going
to use for his tent. He gets back to it,
he said, he's spent about another thirty minutes dropping that
cleaning up the branch as to where they don't catch
up on the tent and tearet and all that kind
of stuff, and he starts getting it set. Now along
with these tight unds, he had some other cordage that
he had to support this log so he could run

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it through the tent, lifted up, put one end through
a hoop that it had just hang on because it's
just a wall tent, and the other end he could
do the same thing. One of the hoops was there
and the other one wasn't, and so he took the
moment to tie off another basically hoop to stick the
poll through. And he said after he got done tying it,
sensed it up and was good with it, and he

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was checking out make sure it looked level or at
least level enough. He said. He went into the tent
had a couple of shorter pieces of branches that he
had cut to pop it out a little bit. He said,
he doesn't know why he decided to do that, because
normally he would just tie off where they got the
little ties on the outside and just draw it out
to give it its shape or whatever. He was like,

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I don't know why I went in there and I
put these branches to prop it. And then he caught himself,
like what am I doing? This is not what I
normally do, And he kind of chuckles to himself and
comes back out of the tent backwards. He kind of
shuffles himself back, stands up, and he looks around again.
He sees nothing. He continues setting up the tent, and
he said, about ten minutes after he got done with that,

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he hears what he assumes is someone laughing. For the
life of him, was like, who's laughing at me? He's
looking around, He's not hearing anything else, just some brief laughter.
I asked him in what context was the laughter? Was
that high pitched? Low pitch? What did it sounded like?
And he goes, it just sounded like some chuckling. He's

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really confused, you know what I mean. So he takes
a moment, he possesses the area in the scenery, and
he's not seeing anything, and so he's, man, I must
be losing my damn mind. He goes in, he sets
up his cot, he sets up some other stuff inside
this tent to get the stuff out of the open
and tucked away, and everything had its place. He said
he was inside right after he set up to kotty,

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he sat on it and he was sitting there listening outside,
and that's when he first heard something moving. And he said,
when he heard it moving, he couldn't pinpoint where it was,
but he could tell whatever it was large, because every
once in a while you would hear some branches breaking,
like something large pushing through the brush, right, he said,
at that moment, he was like, okay, there is something

(33:06):
out there. I'm not losing my mind. There is something
or someone out there. So he comes out of the tent.
He happened to leaned his rifle right against the tree
that supported the tent, that had the pole tied off
to it, right, which once it's supported, it's basically the
top of the opening. So he steps out. His rifle's
right there. He grabs it, and he starts yelling out, hey,

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I'm over here, basically to give a warning to anyone
who might be just wandering through doing their own hunt
or whatever. Hey, there's someone here, he yelled at a
few times. Nothing. He's standing there quiet for a moment,
and then he hears that movement again. It's off to
his left at a distance that he couldn't really tell
how far away, But he knew it was at a

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decent enough distance that he wouldn't be able to see
whatever's moving. I thought about it a minute. He goes,
it might be a good sized moose. Maybe it was sleeping.
Maybe that chuckle or laugh I heard was it just
somehow rubbing his antler's funny against some brush and it
sounded like that. He's explaining things away in his mind,
so he decides he's going to go that direction. He

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hears the sound and creep through and see if it
is a moose. He's got plenty of daylight still. He
goes for it. He starts trekking off to his left
where he was hearing the sound, And as he starts
moving towards it, and he just gets inside the trees
from this little clearing where he had his camp set up.
He said he heard movement behind him just as he
got out of the clearing and stepped into the trees.

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All of a sudden, he's hearing movement behind him, So
it gets his attention. He turns around, he's looking. He
sees nothing. I wonder if there's some weird echo going
on or something. Right, So he pauses a second and
then he hears the movement up ahead of him, so
he goes, all right, let me continue. He weaves through
these trees, and he's pushing through some spots that are
pretty tight to get through because some of the trees

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grow real close together. He said, as he was pushing through,
he broke one of the branches and it cracked. It
was a real crisp snap because it was dead black spruce.
He said that crack sound could crack of a branch.
He said, no sooner than breaking crack. He said, it
couldn't have been more than fifty feet away. He heard
an imitation of that crack come back to him. He says,

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there's no way in hell that branch echoed like that.
He didn't know what to do. He stood there first
second and lost all interest in figuring out what was
moving through the trees. He backs his way out. He's
looking all around. He gets back over to his tent.
When he's standing there looking around, he's really super uneasy.
Conrad's former military guy from years back, but not at

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the military a long time. But he said the only
time he had ever felt that way, the sense of
fear he felt was during a combat thing. He didn't elaborate.
I don't push when it comes to veterans of their
traumas like that, But he said that was the only
other time he had felt a sense of that type
of dread. Life was on the line type of thing,
which in the context where he was at it made

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no sense to him, and it can f used him
a little bit to where he was feeling really disoriented.
He's looking at his tent. He's feeling like he's lost.
All of a sudden, this place he's been to times before,
had it already set up as a camp. All of
a sudden, it all looked strange to him. Even as
wall tent was looking strange to him. It was really

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hard to overcome that, he said. He shook it off
and he went inside the tent. He brought his rifle
with them. He basically laid on his cop and then
just listened. He said, he doesn't know why he chose
to lay down, but he said, as he was sitting
there just listening, a breeze kicked up to where all
he heard was trees and rustling of brush and stuff
like that. So it just everything as far as the sounds,

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this was one melded sound of just when pushing the
brush around. He said, in those moments he ended up
falling asleep. He knew he was asleep long enough for
it to be twilight outside when he got up, so
he said at least five hours had passed from when
he went into the tent to when he woke up

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to it being twilight. He said he was in shock
that he slept that long. He felt like he got
really good sleep, like he had really slept real hard.
So it dawned on him, wait a minute, the circumstances
leading up to this nap things were strange. But when
he came out of his tent and he's looking around,
he had his headlamp lit up because it was dark

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in the tree line and stuff. He said, he felt
comfortable again. He felt himself. He calmed down, He did
his stuff, He started a fire, set up his tarp.
He had some makeshift drying racks, basically which anyone who's
been out in the wild is long enough, they have
their own methodology of doing that. He found the stuff
that was laying around from before, had to fashion some

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new stuff and just started setting up in case it rained,
he'd have place dry stuff and just basically enjoying himself
in his time in the quiet. He sat down in
his folding chair, he said, when he was sitting there
looking at the fire, but as it got darker, he
stopped looking at the fire because he wanted some kind
of night vision. As he was sitting there and stopped

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focusing at the fire, he starts looking off across the
little clearing, which he said. The clearing was maybe a
fifty foot circle, give or take. It wasn't perfectly circling.
It was an opening, the little open area. He was
looking across to where he had initially started walking to
follow that sound. As he's looking over that way, just
contemplating what had happened earlier, he noticed a dark shadow move,

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and at first he thought he was seeing things. So
he kind of looks at all the treetops to see
if the wind's blowing or anything like that. Right, because
it's twilight and everything is silhouetted all around him, there's
a little bit of the flicker of the fire. It
wasn't too big, it wasn't putting off immense amounts of
light to light everything up, right, So he sees this
shadow move, he said. When he saw the shadow move,

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he immediately stood up he was looking in that direction
and started hollering out hey. He didn't know what it was, right,
so he started saying, hey, bear, hey, bear, all this
stuff making himself bigger. He was holding his coat open,
he said. As he was doing that, he heard that
bolt sound again, and it was coming from the direction
he saw the shadow move. I he heard that last

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little click sound of a bolt action rifle. The hair
stood up on his arms. The rifle was right next
to him. He picked it up, started saying hey. As
he's yelling, he's got a backpack right at the opening
of his tent where he has some very good illumination.
He has some nice flashlight, so he goes and retrieves one.
And as he is coming up with the light and

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clicks it on, he sees eyeshine for a brief moment.
Then it's gone. It's like it just evaporated, which really
bugged him out. He's hey, and Almo's playing with you
around here. He goes back in front of his chair
and at that point, he said, as he's holding the flashlight,
he set the rifle down and was leaning against him.
He pulled his pistol and popped a couple rounds in

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the air to make noise, to let every critter around
know humans here. Human, it's bad for you to get
out of here kind of thing. He wasn't shooting at anything,
just pop some rounds in the air to make some noise,
he said. When he did that, where he had last
seen this thing, he heard movement moving away real fast. Okay,
all right, whatever that was was probably a bear. I

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probably saw a bear eyeshine. It probably stood up to
look at me, because he said the eyeshine was at
least seven to eight feet in the air, which I
mean for even an interior grizzly, that standing up perspective
in the dark. It's not far fetched, right, So he
feels better about it. Okay, it's a bear wandering around. Now,
I know there's potentially a problem. So what he does

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is the noise moved off for a good distance, he said.
So once his mind calmed down a little bit, he
got out his trigger alarms and he started setting him
up around camp. He set one along the tree line
all the way around, and then a couple more closer
to his tent. If something reached the outer one, he
had a couple backups that were close to the tent.

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And whatnot. Got all that set up, it got quiet.
He was feeling uncomfortable. He felt a little better having
these early warning systems set up, but he said, he
decided he was going to just go and lay down
and wait and listen, so he said, once he laid
on his cot, he sat there for a few minutes,
then proceeded to lay down, but was real antsy. Something

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felt so off. What he did was he got up.
He started peeking out the tent, looking around again, the
fires dwindling. He didn't have any headlamp on or anything
like that. He's just looking around and listening to see
if there's anything going on that he could pinpoint. Again,
feeling outside of himself. He did not feel comfortable trekking

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back to his plane. He felt like he was pinned
in and he didn't understand why, because in the big
scheme of things, he saw something move and then he
shot in there and this thing moved away, So it
wasn't like an active attack of a bear or anything
like that. So he comes out of the tent the
rest of the way and go out on the sides.
I'm going to coop my fire pile a little further

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away from this tarp, and I'm going to build the
fire bigger. He had already had excess wood from when
he cut the pole earlier, all stacked up right there,
ready to go. So he took that dry wood through
it on there, got the fire going bigger, he said.
At that point is when the shadows really started moving.
He said, Once that flame got big enough to light

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up the outskirts of this little opening, this little clearing,
he started seeing shadows moving. At first, he thought he
was really losing his shit, because it made no sense
that there would be three separate shadows out in front
of his tent moving like that. He thought it was
a figment of his imagination, like he was somehow having
a hallucination. Until one of those shadows moved just off

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to the right, a little bit towards the left, and
it actually hit that early warning system that trigger. It
popped off a twelve gage round, a bird shot he
had that eclipsed his little thing, and you nail it
to a tree or use a screw gun, pulls the
trigger on it and it fires the shell that goes off,
and it startles a shit out of him. He immediately
draws his pistol. At that point, he had just set

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the rifle down leaning against his folding chair and knocked
it over with the weight and stuff. So he immediately
pulls the pistol and is looking in the direction and
this shadow just disappears into the darkness, and he doesn't
know what to do. He said, once that one moved
a way after it triggered the early warning system. The
other shadows, he could hear movement moving away, and he

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didn't no longer see the shadow, so he was like, crap,
now what do I do? So basically he's there in
the dark. There's something going on that triggered the early
warning system, he said. At that point he gave up
on giving a crap. He grabbed his backpack. He grabbed
all his good stuff as flashlights, the stuff he'd need
as a little stove, a couple of the dehydrated mountain packs,

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and stuff for something to eat. And he said, I
am not staying in these trees. I'm gonna get out
into the open of the tundra. Take my chances in
the open. He had approximately, he said, a little over
one hundred yards of weaving through the black spruce on
his little trail that he had made over a couple
seasons to get out into the opening and then work

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his way back to where he had landed. He said,
as he was going through there, every third or fourth
step he was hearing something big moving behind him, so
he would turn around and all he would ever catch
a glimpse of was a dark shadow just barely moving
out of the way. He wasn't seeing full on silhouettes
or anything like that at this point, It's just shadows moving, right.

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So he would take three or four more steps, same thing,
and every time he turn around he would just miss
seeing all of whatever it was. He would only catch
a glimpse of this dark shadow moving off behind the tree.
So he started really freaking out after about third fourth
time of that, right and starts screaming out, starts popping
more rounds with this pistol into the air, telling her, hey,
you let me see you again, I'm gonna kill you. Basically,

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just vent.

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Whether they understoodhim or not, have no clue, he said.
As soon as he got through getting out onto the tundra,
and he got about fifty feet away, he took a
breather because he said he felt like he was going
to have a heart attack, even though he was in
perfect health and everything. He said, his blood pressure must
have been jacked. He could feel his heart beat in
his eyes. He was panicky, he felt nauseous. And as

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he's beaming back towards the tree line he had just
left from, he was noticing when he would beam over here,
there'd be a shadow just off to the side, start moving,
and he would beam over there and they'd be vice versa.
So everywhere he was turning he would see a bit
of shadow movement. He realized some of that was the
effect of the light was giving him a strange kind

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of effects. So when he was beaming over here, there'd
be a slight shadow from a tree in front that
would cast and it would look like movement of something. Right,
So he calmed down, took a second and started breathing deep,
catching his breath. He had killed the flashlight and he's
basically on his knees in the dark, listening. That's when
he heard the first scream off in the distance. He said.

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When he heard that scream, he was back to his feet,
immediately picked up his backpack, threw it on his shoulder.
He was still holding his pistol in his hand, and
then he grabbed his rifle, turned around and started walking
away from the tree line. He said he got a
little further and he heard that the heavy bipedal footsteps.
He said it felt like it was real close to him,

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but when he turned around with the flashlight and everything,
there was absolutely nothing there. He said it happened twice.
The first time he looked around nothing, He turned around,
took about ten more steps or so roughly, and heard
it again. But the second time he turned and hit
the beam. He saw one of these shadow figures moving
just inside the trees, and it was moving at a
pretty good clip. That's when he really started losing it.

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He started popping shots at the shadow. There was some
real strange noises that he assumed was coming from back
by where he had set up his little camp. Then
he heard this loud crash and break and he was like, oh, whatever,
it is just clash my tent. Because he heard that
pole that he was using to hold up the canvas
tent when it fell down. He heard it hit his

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cooler that he had in there. It was just one
of those small ones that you see guys using construction
for lunch. He heard it hit that and it made
a weird plastic noise, so he knew that noise. He
recognized it. He's all, crap, whatever this is tearing out
my stuff. At that point he really didn't care. Turns around,
starts going again, and he said, at one point something
told him turn around. Turn around. Now it was just intuition,

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whatever you want to call it. He turns around and
he's beaming, and when he looks, he sees this thing.
When it gets the light on it, he said, it
squatted down. It was right next to one of these
black spruce right at the edge of the line. At
this point, he's a good he said, probably one hundred
feet from this tree line. You gotta understand, walking in

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the tundra, there's dibbots in there. It's uneven terrain. It's
real spongy, real mossy. So as he's looking at this
thing squatted down, he said, at the vanished point he had,
it looked like it was just all black through and
through until he noticed the little bit of eye glimmer
that was coming back from his light. The thing was
looking down. It would periodically look up and that's when

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he would see eye shine. But when he had looked down,
he wasn't seen as much eye shine, and he was
trying to figure out what he was looking at. He said.
It looked like basically a caveman. He said when it
would look down, he could see a big eyebrow. As
he would look at it and it would glance up.
He said, it was like almost a maniacal kind of

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grin that it was shorting. Every time it looked up,
it would have this weird grin showing its teeth. He said.
The teeth appeared to be blocked teeth like a horse.
Everything's happening real fast, understand that. So he starts yelling, hey,
get out of here, get out of here. I will
shoot you. When he says I will shoot you, that's

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when he hears some whoops and screams he assumes is
coming from where his camp was at the distance. That's
what he was thinking in his mind's eye. No sooner
than that happens as he glances that direction when he
hears those whoops and those weird noises, and he looks
back over to where his flashlight was. What he was
just looking at, squatted down, is gone it's just gone.

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He beams all around, sees nothing, so he says, screw
this noise, starts heading towards his plane. He said he
didn't stop until he got to his plane. He almost
got lost a couple times as he was going along
because of hey, they had gotten so dark. He was
just trying to basically corner distance from these things, whatever

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and the hell they were, so, he said, eventually, when
he got to his plane, he just climbed in, got
in the back, had his gun ready just in case,
and tried to sleep. He said. A couple of times
he dozed off. Then he heard something off in the distance,
like a woman being murdered type scream. He sat up,
He looks around. He's not seeing anything right up on

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the plane. So what he does is he pops the
door and he beams the light off in the distance.
There's nothing immediately in the foreground, but off in the
distance he sees this shadow moving, and he said it
was shaped like a man, but it was at enough
of a distance that he could not fully make out.
He said, whatever it is looked huge, and he was
walking on two feet, and it walked off into the darkness,

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out of the range of his light. Then he turned
off the light and that's when he'd hear the noise
again a little while later, same things. He said, Up
until the morning first light, these shadows were basically moving
in closer and closer each time he would hear this
weird noise, And he thought it was weird that he

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would hear the noise first, almost like they're giving themselves
away for him to look. It made no sense to him.
Eventually that all stopped once first light started showing on
the horizon and stuff. And he said at that point
he was out with his rifle hoping to get a
shot on something. He felt tormented. He felt like he

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was being toyed with. Once the sunlight was pre dawn
light enough to start seeing pretty damn clearly, he said,
there was no other sounds, no other shadows moving. He
decided that he would come back another time to gather
up his stuff. He ended up flying out of there
as soon as he could, had to warm up, had

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a taxi and take off and all that. He said.
It was approximately a month later, at the end of
his work season, that he had made it back to
this place. He brought his friend. He explained what happened
his friend understood, didn't quite get it, but understood, Hey,
this is my buddy. He'd been through some stuff and
he knew him to be truthful, So Conrad, he's his buddy.

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To where his campsite was, he said, outside of the
tent being clapsed down, that cooler was missing. Every piece
of rope that there was hanging that he had just
added or had been there was all twisted up with sticks.
So he said, it's basically like someone with a tourniquit
got a round piece of rope stick of stick through

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and then twisted up right. He said, they were all
twisted up like that. But the weird thing was is
the way they were stuck into the tree was like
something very large took this stick and bam, just dug
it into the dead tree right boom, just enough to
keep the rope coiled up and stuck to the tree.
He said, it was the damnedest thing. He tried to

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get a hold of his buddy that he brought with
to grab his stuff because his buddy had taken pictures
of these twisted up ropes and stuff. He was unable
to get a hold of them prior to me filming this.
He hasn't been back to that place since. He has
since found new places to camp. As far as his
time off, I want to thank Conrad for reaching out.
He almost didn't. I just appreciate him being willing to

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share what happened with them, even though it was more
freaky than anything, because let's be honest, if they had
moved in quickly, we would have never heard Conrad's story.
But it triggers the thought, what are they gaining by
scaring people? In so many of these cases, it's almost
like they intentionally want the fear versus the outright attack you,

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which is just mind boggling. It's almost like the energy
vampire of some kind. It just real weird. We will
catch you guys real soon. They say, you don't gotta
go home, but you can't stay.

Speaker 4 (53:44):
I don't want to be out there.

Speaker 5 (54:02):
Steps step, Joy, this child, that child, everything came right back,
right back, Joy for me, Joy staying right.

Speaker 4 (54:23):
You come it right away, Still stay, stay, stays, Still

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sad down.

Speaker 5 (55:14):
Knocking down, Don Doss games, still steps and stassssss