July 28, 2025 • 45 mins
In this gripping episode, Fred from Alaska shares firsthand accounts from Donnie and Becca, siblings from a village in the Yukon-Kuskokwim Delta, who had an eerie encounter with a mysterious 'Harry Man' during a winter camping trip a decade ago. The narrative follows their experience as they camped out alone using their uncle's snow machine and tent, culminating in a terrifying face-to-face encounter with a creature that looked like a caveman.
Fred also shares Bernard's chilling story from the mid-1960s, detailing his frightening experiences while building his cabin in the Copper River Valley. Despite feeling watched and encountering unexplained noises and movements, Bernard's encounter escalated to a dramatic climax when a large, human-like creature confronted him through his cabin window.
These riveting stories are shared to raise awareness and inform others of the possible dangers lurking in the Alaskan wilderness.
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00:00 Introduction and Setting the Scene 01:02 The Camping Trip Begins 04:15 A Mysterious Encounter 06:19 The Creature Revealed 13:26 The Aftermath and Rescue 17:08 Bernard's Story: The Copper River Legacy 21:02 Setting Up the Wood Stove 22:02 A Creepy Encounter 23:36 Strange Noises and Sights 29:57 Face-to-Face with the Unknown 33:50 A Night of Terror 38:13 Morning Aftermath 40:22 Seeking Help and Reflection
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Fred also shares Bernard's chilling story from the mid-1960s, detailing his frightening experiences while building his cabin in the Copper River Valley. Despite feeling watched and encountering unexplained noises and movements, Bernard's encounter escalated to a dramatic climax when a large, human-like creature confronted him through his cabin window.
These riveting stories are shared to raise awareness and inform others of the possible dangers lurking in the Alaskan wilderness.
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00:00 Introduction and Setting the Scene 01:02 The Camping Trip Begins 04:15 A Mysterious Encounter 06:19 The Creature Revealed 13:26 The Aftermath and Rescue 17:08 Bernard's Story: The Copper River Legacy 21:02 Setting Up the Wood Stove 22:02 A Creepy Encounter 23:36 Strange Noises and Sights 29:57 Face-to-Face with the Unknown 33:50 A Night of Terror 38:13 Morning Aftermath 40:22 Seeking Help and Reflection
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now one of your pudding. I got a string going
on here, something just cause my dog. Something killed your dog,
my dog. We're flying through the air over the tree.
I don't know how it did it, Okay, Damn, I'm
really confused. All I saw was my dog coming over
the fence and he was dead. And once you hit
the ground like, I didn't see any cars. All I
saw was my dog coming over the fence. Sat what
(00:38):
are you putting? We got some wonder or something crawling
around out here? Did you see what it was?
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Or was it was?
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Standing enough? I'm out here looking through the window now
and I don't see anything. I don't want to go outside. Jesus,
quice you better, York, Hello, get somebody out here.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
What quent on out there?
Speaker 1 (01:06):
I've got a bit about sex nine I don't know
easy out there?
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Yeah, oh hey, greetings, thanks for joining me. Is friend Alaska.
What I wanted to share with you today. Donnie and
Becca a brother and sister. Donnie was ten, Becca was twelve.
They come from a village in the yk Delta for
those who don't know, it's Yukon Kuska Kum Delta. If
they didn't want their village shared Donnie still lives there.
(01:31):
Beka does not, and they're in their early twenties. Now
we're going back roughly a decade. This particular village, the
way it's lined out, it's one main road basically, and
a bunch of different huthouses. Now huthouses they came into
play back in the seventies and eighties. They're basically like
little green monopoly houses. They're all cookie cutter. They're insides,
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you're laid out a little differently from two to three bedroom,
but that's basically the layout of just one strip of road,
but you got a couple dozen of them. A doesn't
on one side, the road doesn't on the other. This
particular trail that they went out on loops around the
whole place. At one end do you have a runway,
and at the other end is just where the wilderness
(02:12):
takes off into the mountains. So what they were doing
was they were riding around on their uncle snow machine.
They were on the back side of this trail. You
got to understand this, four hundred yards from the village
prop literally in their backyard. On this snow machine run,
there was this little spot that Donnie really wanted to
(02:33):
camp out at right. So he told Becka, hey, let's
go get permission. I want to camp out there. Let's
see if they'll let us. Okay, now, this is wintertime
on a snow machine. So they go back, they ask
for permission, and their uncle agrees, Hey, I will help
you out. I got a hot tent. We'll go set
up the canvas tent for you. Guys. We'll leave it
up for a little bit, but you got to treat
(02:55):
it with respect and everything like that. The uncle was
really big on allowing these kids to earn their way,
give them a chance, in other words, instead of just
shutting them down, he's going to give them a chance
to use as obviously using the snow machine, and they
never disrespected it. And so he was really willing and
able to set up this dry tent with the heat.
(03:17):
So over the course of a couple of days, his
uncle was slowly going out there talking with Donnie about
really running the stove, which Donnie already knew from inside
all that kind of stuff, but the uncle was just
reiterating safety things. Right now. The very last house was
a person who had a dog sled team. This dog
sled team, there was about a dozen of them, so
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they were always barking, yapping constantly, right, so they were
used to it. No big deal that comes into play later.
They're over there, they get set up, and finally the
time comes where the weather's looking like the snow is
moving in, so it'll be warmer. Anyone who lives up
your nose clear skies in Alaska in the winter, it's
bitter cold out there, man, it is ruthlessly So sure
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enough they see the clouds coming in and the snow
coming in perfect timing. It was about twenty seven to
twenty eight degrees from what Donnie was saying. Now, Becka,
she was just going along for the ride. She wasn't
really into it or not into it. She was just
there for her brother. So they get out to the tent.
They used their uncle snow machine to get over there.
They had their uncle sled as well with their provisions
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for the night, their food, little firewood and so on,
and a couple of lanterns and whatnot, and they brought
a board game they were gonna play. Sorry, now, from
what Donnie said, everything was going smooth, and they would
look outside and they got it pretty warm in there
with that little wood stove, right, So they had the
big flaps of this canvas tent open. He said it
was a twelve x fourteen canvas tent, so they had
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the flaps open, and as they were playing the board game,
it was starting to get on in the dark. But
they noticed every time they looked outside the snow was
getting heavier and heavier. Now, the way the uncle set
it up wasn't fully in the tree line. They were
about twenty five feet off the tree line. He set
up poles and everything to run the pole through the
top and tie it off and all that right, So
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it was set upright. Oh, they're watching the snowfall. Every
once in a while as they were playing the game,
Donnie's back was to this open flap, and from what
Beca was saying, as they were playing, she would catch
snowflakes falling big and heavy in the background behind Donnie,
and so it would catch her eye every once in
a while. And she said, about an hour into playing
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the game, they're kind of bored of it, and she
was looking outside more than anything, thinking about maybe a
snowball fight. As they were talking and chuckling, she noticed
something dark back away from the tent, moving in the
darkness in Alaska. When it's snowing and it's dark out,
if there's ambient light round, you're gonna see a certain
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glow from the snow. It's not night vision by any means,
but you see the white snows. So when she saw
this movement, she just assumed maybe their uncle was coming
to check on them, to scare them, you know, teasing,
whatever it may be, or just check on him. So
she jumps up. She's two years older and Donnie at
this time, and she moves Donnie out of the way
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and goes out the flaps and starts calling for her uncle.
Dead quiet, not a noise. The sled dogs that had
been yapping and barking the whole time stopped about twenty
minutes before this started happening, right, the dogs went quiet.
They didn't realize that until later. So as she's sitting
there calling out, she's not hearing anything or her uncle
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responding or anything. What she did here, though, was movement
in the snow, the crunch of the snow packing, because
it was a pretty wet snow, so it makes that
crunch sound. If you ever walked in wet snow, that
crunch where it's compacting under your feet, she's hearing that
and it's moving around back behind the tent, so she
steps back inside, thinking nothing of it at the time,
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tells Donnie be aware, don't get scared, but uncle's gonna
scare us. That was her thought, right, So as that's
going on, and she sits there and she's just waiting
for this, the uncle's going to poke his head in
whatever right they're sitting there, it's dead quiet. The dogs
is stopped barking, and anyone who's been in a real
heavy snowfall, everything goes mute. It's like having ear muffs
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on because all the snow is insulating for sound, so
it doesn't travel very far. So as they're listening to
this crunching move around, it's coming around to where any
moment now they're gonna see their uncles. That's what their
mindset was. So Donnia had turned around and he's literally
just a couple of feet from the opening of this flat.
But as they're anticipating the uncle, all of a sudden,
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this dark figure comes into view and snow was stuck
to the hair. Becca said, it looked like a cavement.
It looked like it should have been carrying a club
something of this nature, because she said it real thick
brow ridge, real sunken eyes, black eyes. The skin was
like a real dark tanned leather, like an old baseball glove,
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a real wrinkly face. She couldn't make much of the mouth.
There's just like a thin slit, real big jaw, she said.
Donnie said he was just in such shock. He wasn't
even looking at the face, kind of started looking down
at the ground. Becca was the only one that actually
looked at it, and she screamed. As soon as this
thing came into view and squatted down to look in
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there at them, she screamed. This thing got startled by
the scream, and they heard it run off a few
steps and then start circling back. Donnie, at this point,
being just ten years old, he started crying. They had
their little twenty two chipmunk rifle with them. They always
brought it with in case they saw a ptarm again,
or a spruce chicken, or our snowshoe hair, part of
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the subsistence lifestyle. At least she closed the flap and
they're just little ties on that though the zipper that
was on it had long been destroyed somehow, So there's
just these like five or six little ties on the
inside to tie it shut. She ties it shut, and
they're sitting in the center, and they turned the lamp
down and stoked the fire. Now, what was the purpose
(09:01):
of stoking the fire? She said that the amount of
time when they heard her trot off and then start
circling back, it got quiet and still for a while
before it started moving again and it started cooling off
in the tent. So that's why that happened, she said.
As they were whispering to each other, they heard grunting,
(09:21):
a weird grunt, and then a moment later they heard
what sounded like it sniffing the tent. Tent. You're gonna understand,
it has an opening that you run a log pulled
through or two by material to hold the peak of
this tent up. When she looked out this hole that
was triangular shaped, she could see this thing sniffing inside.
(09:45):
Right freaked out, she immediately said, I'm gonna shoot you.
I'm gonna shoot you. And it goes quiet, and the
thing moved away from that little opening at the peak.
They were both crying at this time, and they didn't
know what to do because they got the snow machine
outside it started, but this thing is right outside with them.
So Becca's talking to Donnie. Sound calmed down, You were okay,
(10:06):
if it tries to come in, I'll shoot it. Someone
will hear the gunshot and they will come. When she
said that, she goes, ah, I'm gonna shoot anyway. You
get attention. Right now, just as that's about to happen,
she's just pulling rifle up and on the little chipmunk.
You got to pull back this little it's basically the
firing pin, right, You got to pull it back. So
(10:26):
she was just in the process of pulling that back
when she heard it moving and she saw the side
of the t start getting pushed in, like it was
running its hand along the side of it. She froze,
she said. At that moment, she didn't know what to do.
She wasn't breathing because it was pushing in pretty far.
It was causing the whole place to shift. Because this
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is set up basically a couple of a frames with
a pull across to a couple other a frames and
a tent in the middle tight off. It was sturdy
to keep it up, but not for someone to be
pushing on it. So they're freaking out and then she
yells out, leave us alone, Leave us alone. She turns
and points the rifle out that hole and powle's a
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shot off right with a little twenty two. She racks it,
pops in another round. Because they're just single shot, she
puts in another round, pulls the thing back fires again. Pow.
She shoots three shots in succession, and they're waiting for
the posse to arrive. Meanwhile, this thing had backed away
again and they heard it moving around. You got to remember,
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heavy snow is falling. The concussive sound of the twenty
two was facing away from the village proper. They're more
than four hundred yards away, and it's snowing real heavy,
so that sound didn't travel like she wanted it too.
She said. They sat there for probably another hour, and
they're freaking out because the whole time they hear this thing.
(11:49):
It just so happens that two of those sled dogs
that I mentioned earlier showed up. Now, these two sled dogs,
I've always called them sled dogs or village dogs. What
breathe is probably a mix of husky and malamew and
something else. I'm sure there's someone far better, like a
veterinarian or something that knows the exact mix of this breed.
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Medium size, real skinny, and they love to run. You
just can't stop them from running. These dogs show up,
this particular one dog was a dog that had always
been aggressive towards the kids. So she was scared instantly
because it was pushing its way underneath the flap of
the tent. She saw it, called it by name, and
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the dog responded and backed out, and then they heard growling.
So she assumed the dogs came with some people. So
she unties and Donnie's behind her. She has the twenty
two rifle. She had him hold it. It wasn't cocked
or anything, but there was a round in it, and
she told them, if you need to, you know how
to shoot it. So she unties everything and opens the flap. Now,
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when she opens the flap, the dogs are about out.
She's guessing because she happened real fast. At this point,
the dogs were about ten feet away, off to the
left a little bit. When she looked at him. When
the dog showed up and everything, she had turned up
the lantern to its full brightness. Now, when she did that,
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of course, it's casting light out the door. And she
could see snow falling heavy, and as she stepped out,
she heard a noise from behind her, and at that moment,
those two dogs rushed past her into the blinding snow.
Because when she turned, she was just getting feltered by
snow and she couldn't see nothing, so she tucked back inside.
She hears snarling, growling, barking, some weird grunt noises, and
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then a whoop and a scream, a very loud scream.
When that scream happened a moment later. She doesn't remember
exactly how long, but she said it wasn't very long.
The two dogs came running back into the tent because
she didn't tie it back off. She just closed the flap.
Two dogs run in there, and they're sitting there. They
didn't know what the hell to do. This snow is
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coming down real hard. Anyone who's been up here in
a white out snow condition, it's not pleasant. You can't
see nothing, even if you got your headlights on bright.
It's just white and snow falling. And that's the conditions
they were dealing with. So the dogs are sitting there.
They have a connection with these dogs. Until she said
she was crying holding the dog that's always been aggressive
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towards the kids, which it didn't make sense to her
that this dog is all of a sudden there. For them,
it was real, real weird. She said. She could see
their ropes had been chewed, so they literally chewed their
own line to break free and run over there. She said,
a little while later, they heard the sound of snow machines.
When the snow machines are coming, they ran out, so
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they wanted adults to be there. What they didn't see
when they run out. Their uncle was on one snow machine.
He was in the lead, and when he was pulling up,
he's yelling, but they can't really hear what he's saying,
right because you got the sound of the motor and
all that. And he pulls up and he guns it
towards him, and they startled a back up. It had
the effect that their uncle wanted was to push him
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back into the tent, because he come flying up and
he can make out this figure off to the side
of the tent, facing the tent. It was off to
the left hand side, about twenty five feet. He could
see the figure. They didn't hear no gunshots. They heard
that scream come from this thing and stay tuned for
more sasquatch out to see. We'll be right back after
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these messages. So him and a couple other the neighbors
came immediately right according to what she said when she
talked to her uncle later, when he was pulling up,
he saw it and it looked like he was coming
forward towards them to potentially snatch one of them, and
that's why he gunned the snow machine towards him to
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startle them back inside the line of the tent. But
as soon as he pulls up, he starts firing his gun.
She doesn't remember what kind it was. It was his
hunting rifle, she called it. It doesn't matter, but he
starts shooting at this thing, and his other neighbor that
pulls up beside him was a second or third cousin
to Donni and Becca. But they opened fire too. Now,
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from what her uncle told her later, when they started shooting,
this thing just disappeared in the snow and they were
basically making noise after it. So what they did was
they gathered the kids and got them on the snow
machines and left. They left the snow machine. The kids
were borrowing with the sled attached and the tent right there,
and they got the kids back to the village, to
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the house, talked to him for a little while, got
them calmed down, got them to bed, and she said
the next morning, when the uncle left to go retrieve
the stuff, he didn't want the kids anywhere near there.
The snow had stopped. They got an accumulation of almost
three feet overnight on top of the probably the foot
that had already fallen when all this went down, so
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when they went back there was no tracks to be found.
He did mention to them that it broke the center
pole of the tent, because when the uncle put this
tent posse up, it was fresh wood. It wasn't to beatle,
kill or any of that. The poles he used were
ones that he had recently cut earlier in that year.
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That was his moose hunting tent, and so the poles
were fresh and specifically the same size they needed to
be to prop this tent up. It broke the center
pole and collapsed the back part of the tent. Thankfully,
the way the woodstove was when it happened, it was
either the fire was already out or it just so happened.
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The way it collapsed down, it had a pocket of
space around this wood stove, so it didn't catch the
tent on fire. I want to thank Donnie and Becca
for sharing. It was difficult. They originally reached out to
me almost two years ago, scheduling that goes in college.
She was out of state for a while. Donnie, it
was hard to get a hold of him. Becca doesn't
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like talking about the harry Man, but agreed to share
because she holds the same thought I do. She doesn't
want to scare people out of the woods. Just letting
people know. I asked her, I was like, were you
ever taught about the harry Man? She said yeah, but
when they were told the stories about the harry Man,
it was always old stories, so she didn't know what
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to make of them, being so young. She was only
twelve at the time. Sometimes it's not easy, you know,
getting back in touch with people and whatnot. I want
to share with you today. Come from We'll name him Bernard, Okay, now, Bernard.
This is a continuation of the Copper River legacy. Every
time I do anything related to the Copper River, there's
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will more people that come forward. A lot of them
are now elders. They're coming forward to share for the
sake of someone else, to maybe spare them some of
the trauma. Because regardless, even if you have knowledge that
these things exist and you fully believe that and trust
and you know what you're told by your elders, when
it comes to face faced, it totally changes it. Oh,
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your whole perspective. It changes everything. So we're going back
to the mid sixties. Bernard had gotten a small piece
of property. He still has some family in the area.
He requested that I keep it generalized as far as location,
and I'll just say Copper River Valley, I am comfortable
saying that would be from Glenn Allen's South. Bernard built
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this cabin. This cabin was not very big. It was
up on pilings thirteen foot wide and twenty foot long,
had four windows in it. One was a small one
where he was going to have his sinking counter for
his little kitchen area. There was a larger one as
you're standing in the doorway face in the back of
the cabin, off to the left, there was a bigger one.
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It was basically four foot square, and on the right
hand sidewall he had two windows that were an obscure
size if someone had him custom made somewhere he threw
wheelings and dealings he had come across him and they
were two foot wide five foot tall, and so he
had him even spaced on the right hand side. The
door he had was a custom built solid wood door.
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During the course of construction, Bernard constantly felt watched. He
was so busy. He was running a chainsaw, He's doing
all his carpentry work. He's focused on his work. He
wasn't overly concerned about bears because he's running a generator.
At times, running a chainsaw, he has no food. There's
nothing there to appeal to a bear to come and
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check out, right, So he wasn't overly concerned about the bears.
He had seen a couple of coyotes, but they weren't
a threat to him. But the whole time he was
doing this construction process, he was feeling really weird on
a regular basis. And he said, looking back, during that
timeframe where he was under the heaviest part of construction,
the busiest part, there were times he was running his
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chainsaw and he was hit with something and he'd look
around and it'd be a pine cone or small rock.
He was so focused on his work and the thought
of a pine cone or rock hitting him, he just
look around that was weird, and just focus back on
his work. So things progress, he said, looking back, his
mindset at the time was it wasn't serious enough to
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warrant investigation because he wasn't easily worked up or agitated.
He was comfortable alone in the woods. So as he's
going through and doing this process, he's at the stage
where he's got his roof on and everything. He's doing
the insulation work. Little by little, he did his wiring
and stuff, and it was functional, but it was still
basically a shell was electrical, no water, and it's dried in.
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But he had a wood stove and he was in
the process of getting it where it needed to be
before he cut a hole in the roof and put
the stack in. Now this was mid sixties, it was
late fall. He had been prioritizing getting this wood stove
up and running because the winter don't wait for you.
Winter don't give a shit, I can tell you right now,
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dealing with freezing rain and all that. Trust me, Alaska's
no joke when it comes to weather. He's going through
all this process and at the time, he was standing
on the wood stove and he had a plumbbob and
he was holding it up over where the stack's going
to come out of the wood stove, so he can
make sure that the stove is where it needs to
be from where he's going to cut the hole, because
he had already marked out where he was going to
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go up through the roof with it, but he was
trying to get it set just right so that way
when he put out on the smokestacks. The wood stove
is like six hundred pounds, so he wanted it where
it had to be, so once he put the stacks on,
he didn't have to mess with it anymore. He was
standing on the wood stove and he was using his plumbbob.
Something caught his attention and he looked back at those
two two foot wide, five foot tall windows. His attention
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kept being drawn back over there. It's going in the nighttime.
He decides he's going to turn on the lights, so
he goes outside and fires up his generator. He had
this World War two era generator that he had gotten
from a relative, and it ran great. He said. The
hardest part about that generator wasn't necessarily starting it. It
was getting it to shut off because the kill switch
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wasn't always working, to ground it out and kill it.
As he's over there and he's firing it up, and
it's doing the slow crank and doing this thing and
all that, and all of a sudden, he feels his
thump on his back. He didn't notice what hit him.
Just one more thing after a moment, continued back to
what he's doing. He fires up the generator, It cranks
up and all that, and he looks into the lights
are on inside. Bernard said, as he went up the
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four steps to his door, he just got this overwhelming
sense of dread. He's going to get grabbed. So he
jumps inside, slams the door, and he's like, where'd that
come from. So, as he's sitting there, he was like, man,
that was just real creepy. So he goes over where
he made this countertop. He dug out the rifle he
had on the shelf just below. It's not worried about
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the bears. He kept a gun, but it just not
on him all the time. So he grabs the rifle.
He loads it up. It was a forty five seventy
old lever action, puts one in the chamber and sets
it on top of the counter. Now where the counter
ends on the right hand side, as you're facing inside
the cabin. He said it was about a foot and
a half before that the window on the back portion,
that two foot wide, five foot tall window started. And
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then further this way was the second one towards the door.
He set it down, and he grabbed his plumb bob
and he goes back over and as he was walking
back over to the stove, the second one closest to
the door of the narrow window, the five foot tall,
two foot wide one. As anyone knows, if your curtains
are open at nighttime and you have a light on inside,
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you kind of a mirrored effect, right, And so as
he was walking he noticed something in that window and
it startled to me. Turned to look all it was
part of his reflection. So he's like, oh, okay, I'm
paranoid because of the feeling I just had, basically explaining
it away, I reacted to my reflection. So he gets
on the stove and he's using his plumbob again and
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he's pretty satisfied with it. He has to go back
outside to grab the stovepipe to start putting it together.
He said, when he went to the door and grabbed
the doorknob, he just got this overwhelming sense of he
didn't want to go outside. There was no voices in
his head or anything. He just sensed that he didn't
want to go outside. So he backs away from the door.
He's trying to figure out why, so he turns around
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to his left hand side to head back to the
counter to grab his rifle. He wanted to get it done.
It's getting older and he can't avoid it. He's got
to get it done. So as he turns again, something
catches his eye in that window, but when he looks,
it's just part of his reflection. So you need to
calm down. He catches his breath, kind of chuckles to himself,
chill out. He walks back over to the counter to
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grab the rifle. In that window that's about a foot
and a half from the end of the counter. As
he's walking, all of a sudden, he sees something there,
but he turns and didn't see anything. The only difference
being is he couldn't explain it away because what he
saw was lower than his reflection was. Right now, he
was roughly four feet off the ground at the floor
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on these pilings. The motion he saw had to have
been another almost three and a half four foot in
the window because the windows were set two feet off
the floor. So he stood there for a second. He
couldn't explain it away because it didn't match, so he
estimated because of just that instant where he saw something
out of the corner of his eye. Initially he was
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guessing about eight to nine foot whatever it was had
to be h and nine foot tall or standing on
something outside. Again, when he looked out the window and
went and got one of those antiquated flashlights, he wasn't
seeing anything. He thought he maybe was spending too much
time alone in the woods. So he grabs a rifle
and he brings and leans it up against the wall
next to the stove where he's working, and then he's
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standing there for a second. He goes, I gotta get
that stowpipe. So he grabs a rifle again real quick,
grabs a flashlight he left on the counter, and he
goes over the door and he opens it real quick
with the flashlight on. He's holding the rifle up just
looking around. He doesn't see anything. So he sets a
rifle down inside the door because he needs a free
hand to grab the snowpipe, which right the bottom of
the stairs, just tucked up against the wall. He said.
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He went down the stairs to the right hand side,
so he grabs a stovepipe from out of under there,
and he's going back up the stairs and he gets
that overwhelming sense of he's going to be grabbed again.
As soon as he's getting that sensation. Around the corner,
which would be that same side of the wall where
those two longer windows are the narrower were ones, he
heard a grunt. He said. The grunt was a very
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deep and very powerful, but it was real short. The
sound wasn't drawn out at all. It was just a
short grunt, and he felt it in his feet. He
gets inside, slams the door and locks it. But he's
standing there for a second with his back against the door,
breathing real hard. He drops the stovepipe, sets it down,
grabs a rifle that was leaning right next to him,
and he starts looking out those windows, going back and
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forth from each one. He goes and he shuts off
the lights. He's standing basically in the center of the
room and he's got one window right here to his right,
one to his left, and a big four foot square
one behind him. His focus was over here right keeps.
Every once in a while he'll hit the flashlight on it. Nothing,
hit the flashlight on the other window. Nothing. He said,
he's guessing because he was creaking out. He thought it
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was about twenty twenty five minutes he was doing that,
And then he said, you know this ridiculous. I'm inside,
I'll know if something's trying to get in. I'll have
time to do whatever. So he goes over into the
kitchen area where there's a light above the counter, above
that little window. So he goes over and turns that
one on. You know, he looks back over at the
stove and it was still a little dark over there.
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He goes, I'll turn on the main one. The main
switch worked three separate lights going down the center of
the peak because he kept it cathedral style ceiling on
the inside. So he went over, he hit that switch
and turned it on. He's trying to do all this
while holding this rifle, and so finally he just set
it down next to the stove and he starts putting
the stovepipe together in the middle of the floor. So
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he gets about three sections together so it'll at least
poke out the hole he's gonna cut, and then he
commences to start cutting this hole through the metal room. Now,
the metal roofs we have in these modern times are
a lot different. The metal he was using was scrapped
from some kind of canery somewhere, and all he had
was basically these four foot squares that he put on
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like scales or shingles. He was contemplating how he was
going to cut into this corrugated metal, and he didn't
really have any good options. He had a hacksaw and
a drill, right, So what he decided to do is
he was going to drill a bunch of holes around
and then use the hacksaw blade to cut between the holes,
just to minimize the manual effort. And so as he's
sitting there plotting, he starts feeling watched again. Now he's
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got the main lights on and the light on over
the scene, so he turns around and looks, and he's
not seeing anything, so he continues what he's doing. He
was fumbling around. He got his drill, so he was
running the cord and stuff. The biggest bit he had
was like a three quarter inch bit. He started doing
his thing, and as he was drilling the first couple
of holes, he drilled towards the end of what he
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was doing, just for poked through our right. When it
poked through, it made this real loud, squealing noise. It
was kind of like no nails on a chalkboard to him.
And so after a couple of those he had stopped,
and all of a sudden he hears that same squeal
coming from outside. And stay tuned for more sasquatch out
to sea. We'll be right back after the east messages,
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he said. Had he known the drill wasn't running, he
would have assumed it was the exact noise the drill
made which really got his attention. So he's standing there
and he's standing on the stove. He's working above his head.
As he's doing so, directly behind him on the wall,
he hears bam ha. It's shock the shit out of him.
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It was a controlled fall off of the stove. As
he lands, hits his back against the wall, grabs his
rifle and he's clear pointing to that side. He didn't
see anything. His heart was pounding out of his chest.
He goes and grabs a flashlight and he's looking out
those two narrow windows. He said he probably he stood
there like probably half an hour, bringing his heart rate down.
He said he was walking back over to the sink
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because that's where he had this container that he had
water in and stuff. He was going to get some water,
and he went over. He sat down, the flashlight and
a rifle on the counter. He poured water into this
jug and he turns around. He's drinking his water, and
he takes a couple of steps, and now he's facing
the door, and that big four foot square window is
basically right there, about three feet from him where he
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was standing. He said. As he's drinking his water, he
notices movement in the window and he slowly turns and
this thing is looking at him. The level of shock
when you meet something like that eye to eye is
really hard to put in the words. The best analogy
I could think of is every fiber of your being
wanting to run, but it's stuck in your skin. It's
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like an electrical shock. From what he explained to me
through talking to him, he experienced a very similar kind
of a shock to the system. He drops his water cup,
and he said when he did, this thing came in close,
basically damn near, pressing his face against the window, and
started looking up and around and looking at him. He
said the feeling he got initially was like, hey, what
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you doing in here? Feel to it because it was startling.
But he said there was no overt aggression. It was
just there. And he said, the way it was looking
up and around, I've heard similar from other people. I
would chalk it up to a curiosity. That's the only
thing that would make sense. So he said, he stood
there for a second and started yelling hey, because he
didn't know what the hell to do. The thought of
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his gun. It was two feet behind him on the counter,
and the only thing he could think it was yell.
He starts yelling, and it backed away a little bit
and then growled at him. And he said, the way
the mirrored effect from the inside and how it growled,
he watched the window rattle from this thing growling at him.
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He said, that's when he snapped out of it and
grabbed his rifle. And when he turned around, he didn't
see anything in the window. Right, So he's standing there
and he's got the rifle shouldered. At this point, he's
really thinking he has lost his mind. He was like,
maybe I need a break, maybe I need to get
away from here for a while. And as he's sitting
there imagining that he's losing his mind, and as he's
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doing so, at this point, he had kind of lowered
the barrel of the rifle and he was kind of
looking around, turning around. Everyone swallowed to check the window
behind him, because that's where the one was, right off
the counter towards the back of the cabin. And so
he turned around, sat down the rifle, picked up the
cup that he had water in, and goes over and
starts pouring some more water. Now, as he's doing so,
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he notices, because he's cooking down at what he's doing,
he notices movement right in front of him. So he
stops what he's doing slowly, you know, he reaches over,
he grabs the rifle and kind of scoots it to
where he can get a better grip on it. And
he looks up and there this thing is looking right
at him, watching what he's doing, watching his hand pull
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the gun closer. And he said, as he was pulling
the gun to shoulder it, he was doing it real
smooth and slow. As he was doing so, it furled
his brow. He said, the look he got at it
this time was a lot better than when it came
up close because of the mirrored effect, the way the
light was hitting it, and then it growled. But he said,
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the way the light above that sink was on when
it came in closer and was looking, he got a
real clear look at it, very defined brow ridge, heavily wrinkled.
He said. It was a real deep dark chocolate tan color,
wrinkle upon wrinkle. He said it looked ancient. The eyes,
they weren't all black. He said that they were like
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a golden yellow and almost glowed with a little bit
of light that was reflecting out from the cabin. He said,
he was almost hypnotized at the eyes. I asked, did
you see the nose? He goes, When I looked, the
thing he noticed most was the wrinkley skin, a deep
dark chocolate kind of leathery look, and those eyes. Once
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he saw the eyes, it was the eyes, you know
what I mean, like a golden yellow, very vibrant and
a slight glow to him right now, he's standing there,
but as he shouldered the gun, it moved how, this
time on his shoulders the gun. He starts yelling in instinctively,
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he turns and just shoots up through the roof. Boom,
And he said it was loud as hell. Inside his
ear started ringing. Once he shot, everything felt like it
calmed down. He said, he's not sure how long he
stood there, but after a couple of moments of standing there,
once the initial holy crap it, a little bit of
anger died off. He started shaking real hard, and he
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sat down and leaned his back against the counter. He
sat there, He's not sure how long now, off that
back corner where that four foot window is. If you're
facing the cabin, it'd be off to the left, back,
just off the corner. It was running for the lights
going on and stuff. When he had shouldered the gun,
it moved off in that direction right. You know, he
was just sitting there thinking. At that point the generator
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went off. If anyone's had a generator, you know, when
you hear the RPMs are going down, your lights are
damn it. Soon as he heard that, immediately he jumps
up and grabs a flashlight and goes to that four
foot window and turns it on. To see what he
can of the generator, because he could only see about
maybe the last third of it from his perspective. There
he saw the generator, he couldn't see anything else. And
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then all of a sudden, it looked like the generator
was pulled away, pulled out of view. This is a
large World War Two era generator from some kind of
mobile unit. Right, they're on trailers, trailers specifically built, and
they're bolted to these trailers.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
Right.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
You got to connect a big vehicle with a strong
motor to move it, even if it was not connected
to a truck. It's so heavy. You're not going to
just sit there and move it around by the tongue
of the trailer. It's too heavy. He saw it move
out of his view. He really started getting a sinking feeling.
His initial fear turned to anger at that point because
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he needs his generator. Also, he has no idea how
to deal with what's going on, he said. At that point,
he went over, sat back down where he was, turned
off the flashlight and sat there with his knees up
and the rifle in his lap. He said he was
sitting there quiet, hoping this thing would come back in
front of that four foot window. He said, if it did,
I was going to just shoot through the window and
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kill this thing. That was the thought. So he's sitting there,
it's dark now, he's got all the stuff going through
his mind, and as he's sitting there, just wishing this
thing would come back in front of the window so
he can get some shots on it, all of a sudden,
the whole place started shaking because it was pounding near
the front door. He said it sounded like it would
hit one side, then the opposite side of the door
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was shaking the whole place, and he said at that
point he was sick and tired of being scared, so
he just turned and started shooting through the door. He
said it was three inches thick solid wood. He didn't
have much confidence that the rounds he was firing. These
were soft tip forty five seventy. Even though they were
busting through the door, he wasn't confident they had the
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stopping power because they went through the door, slowing down
to the velocity and all that. He said, he clearly
remembers having four rounds in there. So he shot four times.
He turned the flashlight on and he's looking now. When
he was shooting, because you got to understand it's dark
in there. His flashlights right on the counter behind him
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when he's shooting, sitting down firing. When he was shooting
for center, mess of the door or anything like it
was bam. He was just shooting right. So when he
grabs a flashlight and turns it on towards the door,
only three of the shots went right through the door.
They were pretty close together. And then the four shot,
he couldn't make out where it went through, right. So
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as he goes over closer to the door, but not
all the way to it, he's looking around. He backs
back up, grabs the rest of the box of cartridges,
puts him in his pocket, and he's loading up the Winchester,
he said, as he's loading it up. And once it
was loaded and he had a round in the chamber.
Every once in a while there was a bang against
the cabin somewhere. It was always a random, different place,
they said. He sat back into the corner where the
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cabinets were, the lower cabinets by the sink in the
back of the cabin He positioned himself that he couldn't
see the window, and that was comforting enough. Right, he
could still see that four foot window, but he was
also obscuring any line of sight from those two side windows.
So the only one he had worried about something staring
at him was at that four foot square window, and
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he wanted it to stare at him to that window
because he wanted to shoot this thing. So he said
he sat there. Eventually, once he adrenaline started fading, he
fell asleep. He said. He woke up in the morning
laying on the floor in a fetal position, right near
where he was initially. He woke up to a slight
breeze he felt when he opened his eyes, it was
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daylight and the door was open. He said, his heart's sack.
He jumped up. He spumbling for the gun. He's got
the gun. He's looking. He said. There was a real
foul odor. The whole place stunk. Freaked him out because
he said it was so overwhelming it was making him
want a vomit. He's looking around and with the daylight,
he's trying to focus his eyes. He's just startled awake,
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and he notices something liquid was on the floor from
about the halfway point of the cabin back over to
the door. He starts to looking the odor was from
wherever this was. He just figured, okay, this then came
and pissed. That's the only thing that made sense to
him because it was similar to us if some guy
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pissed on the floor basically peeing back and forth on
their way up the door, walking backwards or something. I mean,
that's the only thing he could equate what it looked like. Right,
So he goes outside, he said, he looked around, but
you know, he's looking for tracks. He circles around. The
general was basically in the same position. It was just shifted.
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The back end was shifted. So when he was looking
out and it was moved, all the wires were still connected.
It's just a back end was shifted out of his view.
He goes back over there to inspect it. He looks
at everything. It was still connected. You could see the
tired drag marks. So he goes around to the other
side of it. Because of the leaves and the debris
from the trees and stuff, being in the fall time,
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he could see impressions, but none of them stood out
as a bigfoot track. It was just heavy impressions. So
he said, at that point he looked around and said,
you know what, today's a good day for a drive.
I need to go and get someone out here with me.
He left. He shut the door, he didn't lock it.
He figured if it was going to do something, he
didn't want it damaging anything. He'd rather let it get
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in easy, since it was just a shell basically at
this point. Right. So he went and visited some people
for a minute, asked him some questions, if they've ever
dealt with anything weird? They kind of half fast answered, yeah,
there's always something weird happening up here. Kind of thing
left it real open in general. He ended up getting
gas and then driving to Palmer, you know, which is
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hundreds of miles away, to go and talk to one
of his cousins. He has family there now, however, that's
because he started that trend of family going there. Right.
So he goes and sees a cousin in Palmer, talks
to him, tells him everything that was going on, and
asked him if you'd come out there with them. The
cousin reluctantly agreed and said, you don't want trouble with
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the bushman. You know what'd you do? And he's I'm
just building a cabin. I didn't do anything. I didn't
shoot until I felt like I was in danger. His
cousin said okay and came with them. His cousin stayed
with him a couple months, and nothing else happened for
the thirty years until he ended up moving. For the
life of him, he doesn't know why this saying did that.
For the life of him, he doesn't know why it stopped.
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It was just he dealt with all this stuff and
then it's just stopped, just went away. He never felt
weird again, he never felt watched. Outside of his cousin
and a couple other people since mid sixties, I was
the only one. He told the whole thing too. I
respect and understand how difficult that can be. I want
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to thank Bernard for making that effort to share that.
Before I let you guys go, I want to mention
this is not unique. A lot of the people that
have reached out since my last update video for Miss
Carrol's are all considered elders seventy or better. I want
to thank them for recognizing the effort. I'm just trying
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to warn people that being said, thanks for joining me.
I will catch you guys on the next one.
Speaker 3 (43:49):
They say, you don't got to go, But you guess,
say feels we're all open.
Speaker 4 (44:11):
Inside steps Stick sayside steps.
Speaker 2 (44:25):
I'm trying to try that chart everything.
Speaker 3 (44:29):
Call me ride back, right back, joy from me, enjoy
stay right there, came it right away.
Speaker 4 (44:46):
Side said, Still say says says. Sissie says to us,
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say games stsssssst used to these things.
Now one of your pudding. I got a string going
on here, something just cause my dog. Something killed your dog,
my dog. We're flying through the air over the tree.
I don't know how it did it, Okay, Damn, I'm
really confused. All I saw was my dog coming over
the fence and he was dead. And once you hit
the ground like, I didn't see any cars. All I
saw was my dog coming over the fence. Sat what
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are you putting? We got some wonder or something crawling
around out here? Did you see what it was?
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Or was it was?
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Standing enough? I'm out here looking through the window now
and I don't see anything. I don't want to go outside. Jesus,
quice you better, York, Hello, get somebody out here.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
What quent on out there?
Speaker 1 (01:06):
I've got a bit about sex nine I don't know
easy out there?
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Yeah, oh hey, greetings, thanks for joining me. Is friend Alaska.
What I wanted to share with you today. Donnie and
Becca a brother and sister. Donnie was ten, Becca was twelve.
They come from a village in the yk Delta for
those who don't know, it's Yukon Kuska Kum Delta. If
they didn't want their village shared Donnie still lives there.
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Beka does not, and they're in their early twenties. Now
we're going back roughly a decade. This particular village, the
way it's lined out, it's one main road basically, and
a bunch of different huthouses. Now huthouses they came into
play back in the seventies and eighties. They're basically like
little green monopoly houses. They're all cookie cutter. They're insides,
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you're laid out a little differently from two to three bedroom,
but that's basically the layout of just one strip of road,
but you got a couple dozen of them. A doesn't
on one side, the road doesn't on the other. This
particular trail that they went out on loops around the
whole place. At one end do you have a runway,
and at the other end is just where the wilderness
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takes off into the mountains. So what they were doing
was they were riding around on their uncle snow machine.
They were on the back side of this trail. You
got to understand this, four hundred yards from the village
prop literally in their backyard. On this snow machine run,
there was this little spot that Donnie really wanted to
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camp out at right. So he told Becka, hey, let's
go get permission. I want to camp out there. Let's
see if they'll let us. Okay, now, this is wintertime
on a snow machine. So they go back, they ask
for permission, and their uncle agrees, Hey, I will help
you out. I got a hot tent. We'll go set
up the canvas tent for you. Guys. We'll leave it
up for a little bit, but you got to treat
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it with respect and everything like that. The uncle was
really big on allowing these kids to earn their way,
give them a chance, in other words, instead of just
shutting them down, he's going to give them a chance
to use as obviously using the snow machine, and they
never disrespected it. And so he was really willing and
able to set up this dry tent with the heat.
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So over the course of a couple of days, his
uncle was slowly going out there talking with Donnie about
really running the stove, which Donnie already knew from inside
all that kind of stuff, but the uncle was just
reiterating safety things. Right now. The very last house was
a person who had a dog sled team. This dog
sled team, there was about a dozen of them, so
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they were always barking, yapping constantly, right, so they were
used to it. No big deal that comes into play later.
They're over there, they get set up, and finally the
time comes where the weather's looking like the snow is
moving in, so it'll be warmer. Anyone who lives up
your nose clear skies in Alaska in the winter, it's
bitter cold out there, man, it is ruthlessly So sure
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enough they see the clouds coming in and the snow
coming in perfect timing. It was about twenty seven to
twenty eight degrees from what Donnie was saying. Now, Becka,
she was just going along for the ride. She wasn't
really into it or not into it. She was just
there for her brother. So they get out to the tent.
They used their uncle snow machine to get over there.
They had their uncle sled as well with their provisions
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for the night, their food, little firewood and so on,
and a couple of lanterns and whatnot, and they brought
a board game they were gonna play. Sorry, now, from
what Donnie said, everything was going smooth, and they would
look outside and they got it pretty warm in there
with that little wood stove, right, So they had the
big flaps of this canvas tent open. He said it
was a twelve x fourteen canvas tent, so they had
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the flaps open, and as they were playing the board game,
it was starting to get on in the dark. But
they noticed every time they looked outside the snow was
getting heavier and heavier. Now, the way the uncle set
it up wasn't fully in the tree line. They were
about twenty five feet off the tree line. He set
up poles and everything to run the pole through the
top and tie it off and all that right, So
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it was set upright. Oh, they're watching the snowfall. Every
once in a while as they were playing the game,
Donnie's back was to this open flap, and from what
Beca was saying, as they were playing, she would catch
snowflakes falling big and heavy in the background behind Donnie,
and so it would catch her eye every once in
a while. And she said, about an hour into playing
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the game, they're kind of bored of it, and she
was looking outside more than anything, thinking about maybe a
snowball fight. As they were talking and chuckling, she noticed
something dark back away from the tent, moving in the
darkness in Alaska. When it's snowing and it's dark out,
if there's ambient light round, you're gonna see a certain
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glow from the snow. It's not night vision by any means,
but you see the white snows. So when she saw
this movement, she just assumed maybe their uncle was coming
to check on them, to scare them, you know, teasing,
whatever it may be, or just check on him. So
she jumps up. She's two years older and Donnie at
this time, and she moves Donnie out of the way
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and goes out the flaps and starts calling for her uncle.
Dead quiet, not a noise. The sled dogs that had
been yapping and barking the whole time stopped about twenty
minutes before this started happening, right, the dogs went quiet.
They didn't realize that until later. So as she's sitting
there calling out, she's not hearing anything or her uncle
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responding or anything. What she did here, though, was movement
in the snow, the crunch of the snow packing, because
it was a pretty wet snow, so it makes that
crunch sound. If you ever walked in wet snow, that
crunch where it's compacting under your feet, she's hearing that
and it's moving around back behind the tent, so she
steps back inside, thinking nothing of it at the time,
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tells Donnie be aware, don't get scared, but uncle's gonna
scare us. That was her thought, right, So as that's
going on, and she sits there and she's just waiting
for this, the uncle's going to poke his head in
whatever right they're sitting there, it's dead quiet. The dogs
is stopped barking, and anyone who's been in a real
heavy snowfall, everything goes mute. It's like having ear muffs
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on because all the snow is insulating for sound, so
it doesn't travel very far. So as they're listening to
this crunching move around, it's coming around to where any
moment now they're gonna see their uncles. That's what their
mindset was. So Donnia had turned around and he's literally
just a couple of feet from the opening of this flat.
But as they're anticipating the uncle, all of a sudden,
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this dark figure comes into view and snow was stuck
to the hair. Becca said, it looked like a cavement.
It looked like it should have been carrying a club
something of this nature, because she said it real thick
brow ridge, real sunken eyes, black eyes. The skin was
like a real dark tanned leather, like an old baseball glove,
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a real wrinkly face. She couldn't make much of the mouth.
There's just like a thin slit, real big jaw, she said.
Donnie said he was just in such shock. He wasn't
even looking at the face, kind of started looking down
at the ground. Becca was the only one that actually
looked at it, and she screamed. As soon as this
thing came into view and squatted down to look in
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there at them, she screamed. This thing got startled by
the scream, and they heard it run off a few
steps and then start circling back. Donnie, at this point,
being just ten years old, he started crying. They had
their little twenty two chipmunk rifle with them. They always
brought it with in case they saw a ptarm again,
or a spruce chicken, or our snowshoe hair, part of
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the subsistence lifestyle. At least she closed the flap and
they're just little ties on that though the zipper that
was on it had long been destroyed somehow, So there's
just these like five or six little ties on the
inside to tie it shut. She ties it shut, and
they're sitting in the center, and they turned the lamp
down and stoked the fire. Now, what was the purpose
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of stoking the fire? She said that the amount of
time when they heard her trot off and then start
circling back, it got quiet and still for a while
before it started moving again and it started cooling off
in the tent. So that's why that happened, she said.
As they were whispering to each other, they heard grunting,
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a weird grunt, and then a moment later they heard
what sounded like it sniffing the tent. Tent. You're gonna understand,
it has an opening that you run a log pulled
through or two by material to hold the peak of
this tent up. When she looked out this hole that
was triangular shaped, she could see this thing sniffing inside.
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Right freaked out, she immediately said, I'm gonna shoot you.
I'm gonna shoot you. And it goes quiet, and the
thing moved away from that little opening at the peak.
They were both crying at this time, and they didn't
know what to do because they got the snow machine
outside it started, but this thing is right outside with them.
So Becca's talking to Donnie. Sound calmed down, You were okay,
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if it tries to come in, I'll shoot it. Someone
will hear the gunshot and they will come. When she
said that, she goes, ah, I'm gonna shoot anyway. You
get attention. Right now, just as that's about to happen,
she's just pulling rifle up and on the little chipmunk.
You got to pull back this little it's basically the
firing pin, right, You got to pull it back. So
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she was just in the process of pulling that back
when she heard it moving and she saw the side
of the t start getting pushed in, like it was
running its hand along the side of it. She froze,
she said. At that moment, she didn't know what to do.
She wasn't breathing because it was pushing in pretty far.
It was causing the whole place to shift. Because this
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is set up basically a couple of a frames with
a pull across to a couple other a frames and
a tent in the middle tight off. It was sturdy
to keep it up, but not for someone to be
pushing on it. So they're freaking out and then she
yells out, leave us alone, Leave us alone. She turns
and points the rifle out that hole and powle's a
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shot off right with a little twenty two. She racks it,
pops in another round. Because they're just single shot, she
puts in another round, pulls the thing back fires again. Pow.
She shoots three shots in succession, and they're waiting for
the posse to arrive. Meanwhile, this thing had backed away
again and they heard it moving around. You got to remember,
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heavy snow is falling. The concussive sound of the twenty
two was facing away from the village proper. They're more
than four hundred yards away, and it's snowing real heavy,
so that sound didn't travel like she wanted it too.
She said. They sat there for probably another hour, and
they're freaking out because the whole time they hear this thing.
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It just so happens that two of those sled dogs
that I mentioned earlier showed up. Now, these two sled dogs,
I've always called them sled dogs or village dogs. What
breathe is probably a mix of husky and malamew and
something else. I'm sure there's someone far better, like a
veterinarian or something that knows the exact mix of this breed.
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Medium size, real skinny, and they love to run. You
just can't stop them from running. These dogs show up,
this particular one dog was a dog that had always
been aggressive towards the kids. So she was scared instantly
because it was pushing its way underneath the flap of
the tent. She saw it, called it by name, and
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the dog responded and backed out, and then they heard growling.
So she assumed the dogs came with some people. So
she unties and Donnie's behind her. She has the twenty
two rifle. She had him hold it. It wasn't cocked
or anything, but there was a round in it, and
she told them, if you need to, you know how
to shoot it. So she unties everything and opens the flap. Now,
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when she opens the flap, the dogs are about out.
She's guessing because she happened real fast. At this point,
the dogs were about ten feet away, off to the
left a little bit. When she looked at him. When
the dog showed up and everything, she had turned up
the lantern to its full brightness. Now, when she did that,
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of course, it's casting light out the door. And she
could see snow falling heavy, and as she stepped out,
she heard a noise from behind her, and at that moment,
those two dogs rushed past her into the blinding snow.
Because when she turned, she was just getting feltered by
snow and she couldn't see nothing, so she tucked back inside.
She hears snarling, growling, barking, some weird grunt noises, and
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then a whoop and a scream, a very loud scream.
When that scream happened a moment later. She doesn't remember
exactly how long, but she said it wasn't very long.
The two dogs came running back into the tent because
she didn't tie it back off. She just closed the flap.
Two dogs run in there, and they're sitting there. They
didn't know what the hell to do. This snow is
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coming down real hard. Anyone who's been up here in
a white out snow condition, it's not pleasant. You can't
see nothing, even if you got your headlights on bright.
It's just white and snow falling. And that's the conditions
they were dealing with. So the dogs are sitting there.
They have a connection with these dogs. Until she said
she was crying holding the dog that's always been aggressive
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towards the kids, which it didn't make sense to her
that this dog is all of a sudden there. For them,
it was real, real weird. She said. She could see
their ropes had been chewed, so they literally chewed their
own line to break free and run over there. She said,
a little while later, they heard the sound of snow machines.
When the snow machines are coming, they ran out, so
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they wanted adults to be there. What they didn't see
when they run out. Their uncle was on one snow machine.
He was in the lead, and when he was pulling up,
he's yelling, but they can't really hear what he's saying,
right because you got the sound of the motor and
all that. And he pulls up and he guns it
towards him, and they startled a back up. It had
the effect that their uncle wanted was to push him
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back into the tent, because he come flying up and
he can make out this figure off to the side
of the tent, facing the tent. It was off to
the left hand side, about twenty five feet. He could
see the figure. They didn't hear no gunshots. They heard
that scream come from this thing and stay tuned for
more sasquatch out to see. We'll be right back after
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these messages. So him and a couple other the neighbors
came immediately right according to what she said when she
talked to her uncle later, when he was pulling up,
he saw it and it looked like he was coming
forward towards them to potentially snatch one of them, and
that's why he gunned the snow machine towards him to
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startle them back inside the line of the tent. But
as soon as he pulls up, he starts firing his gun.
She doesn't remember what kind it was. It was his
hunting rifle, she called it. It doesn't matter, but he
starts shooting at this thing, and his other neighbor that
pulls up beside him was a second or third cousin
to Donni and Becca. But they opened fire too. Now,
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from what her uncle told her later, when they started shooting,
this thing just disappeared in the snow and they were
basically making noise after it. So what they did was
they gathered the kids and got them on the snow
machines and left. They left the snow machine. The kids
were borrowing with the sled attached and the tent right there,
and they got the kids back to the village, to
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the house, talked to him for a little while, got
them calmed down, got them to bed, and she said
the next morning, when the uncle left to go retrieve
the stuff, he didn't want the kids anywhere near there.
The snow had stopped. They got an accumulation of almost
three feet overnight on top of the probably the foot
that had already fallen when all this went down, so
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when they went back there was no tracks to be found.
He did mention to them that it broke the center
pole of the tent, because when the uncle put this
tent posse up, it was fresh wood. It wasn't to beatle,
kill or any of that. The poles he used were
ones that he had recently cut earlier in that year.
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That was his moose hunting tent, and so the poles
were fresh and specifically the same size they needed to
be to prop this tent up. It broke the center
pole and collapsed the back part of the tent. Thankfully,
the way the woodstove was when it happened, it was
either the fire was already out or it just so happened.
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The way it collapsed down, it had a pocket of
space around this wood stove, so it didn't catch the
tent on fire. I want to thank Donnie and Becca
for sharing. It was difficult. They originally reached out to
me almost two years ago, scheduling that goes in college.
She was out of state for a while. Donnie, it
was hard to get a hold of him. Becca doesn't
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like talking about the harry Man, but agreed to share
because she holds the same thought I do. She doesn't
want to scare people out of the woods. Just letting
people know. I asked her, I was like, were you
ever taught about the harry Man? She said yeah, but
when they were told the stories about the harry Man,
it was always old stories, so she didn't know what
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to make of them, being so young. She was only
twelve at the time. Sometimes it's not easy, you know,
getting back in touch with people and whatnot. I want
to share with you today. Come from We'll name him Bernard, Okay, now, Bernard.
This is a continuation of the Copper River legacy. Every
time I do anything related to the Copper River, there's
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will more people that come forward. A lot of them
are now elders. They're coming forward to share for the
sake of someone else, to maybe spare them some of
the trauma. Because regardless, even if you have knowledge that
these things exist and you fully believe that and trust
and you know what you're told by your elders, when
it comes to face faced, it totally changes it. Oh,
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your whole perspective. It changes everything. So we're going back
to the mid sixties. Bernard had gotten a small piece
of property. He still has some family in the area.
He requested that I keep it generalized as far as location,
and I'll just say Copper River Valley, I am comfortable
saying that would be from Glenn Allen's South. Bernard built
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this cabin. This cabin was not very big. It was
up on pilings thirteen foot wide and twenty foot long,
had four windows in it. One was a small one
where he was going to have his sinking counter for
his little kitchen area. There was a larger one as
you're standing in the doorway face in the back of
the cabin, off to the left, there was a bigger one.
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It was basically four foot square, and on the right
hand sidewall he had two windows that were an obscure
size if someone had him custom made somewhere he threw
wheelings and dealings he had come across him and they
were two foot wide five foot tall, and so he
had him even spaced on the right hand side. The
door he had was a custom built solid wood door.
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During the course of construction, Bernard constantly felt watched. He
was so busy. He was running a chainsaw, He's doing
all his carpentry work. He's focused on his work. He
wasn't overly concerned about bears because he's running a generator.
At times, running a chainsaw, he has no food. There's
nothing there to appeal to a bear to come and
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check out, right, So he wasn't overly concerned about the bears.
He had seen a couple of coyotes, but they weren't
a threat to him. But the whole time he was
doing this construction process, he was feeling really weird on
a regular basis. And he said, looking back, during that
timeframe where he was under the heaviest part of construction,
the busiest part, there were times he was running his
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chainsaw and he was hit with something and he'd look
around and it'd be a pine cone or small rock.
He was so focused on his work and the thought
of a pine cone or rock hitting him, he just
look around that was weird, and just focus back on
his work. So things progress, he said, looking back, his
mindset at the time was it wasn't serious enough to
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warrant investigation because he wasn't easily worked up or agitated.
He was comfortable alone in the woods. So as he's
going through and doing this process, he's at the stage
where he's got his roof on and everything. He's doing
the insulation work. Little by little, he did his wiring
and stuff, and it was functional, but it was still
basically a shell was electrical, no water, and it's dried in.
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But he had a wood stove and he was in
the process of getting it where it needed to be
before he cut a hole in the roof and put
the stack in. Now this was mid sixties, it was
late fall. He had been prioritizing getting this wood stove
up and running because the winter don't wait for you.
Winter don't give a shit, I can tell you right now,
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dealing with freezing rain and all that. Trust me, Alaska's
no joke when it comes to weather. He's going through
all this process and at the time, he was standing
on the wood stove and he had a plumbbob and
he was holding it up over where the stack's going
to come out of the wood stove, so he can
make sure that the stove is where it needs to
be from where he's going to cut the hole, because
he had already marked out where he was going to
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go up through the roof with it, but he was
trying to get it set just right so that way
when he put out on the smokestacks. The wood stove
is like six hundred pounds, so he wanted it where
it had to be, so once he put the stacks on,
he didn't have to mess with it anymore. He was
standing on the wood stove and he was using his plumbbob.
Something caught his attention and he looked back at those
two two foot wide, five foot tall windows. His attention
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kept being drawn back over there. It's going in the nighttime.
He decides he's going to turn on the lights, so
he goes outside and fires up his generator. He had
this World War two era generator that he had gotten
from a relative, and it ran great. He said. The
hardest part about that generator wasn't necessarily starting it. It
was getting it to shut off because the kill switch
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wasn't always working, to ground it out and kill it.
As he's over there and he's firing it up, and
it's doing the slow crank and doing this thing and
all that, and all of a sudden, he feels his
thump on his back. He didn't notice what hit him.
Just one more thing after a moment, continued back to
what he's doing. He fires up the generator, It cranks
up and all that, and he looks into the lights
are on inside. Bernard said, as he went up the
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four steps to his door, he just got this overwhelming
sense of dread. He's going to get grabbed. So he
jumps inside, slams the door, and he's like, where'd that
come from. So, as he's sitting there, he was like, man,
that was just real creepy. So he goes over where
he made this countertop. He dug out the rifle he
had on the shelf just below. It's not worried about
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the bears. He kept a gun, but it just not
on him all the time. So he grabs the rifle.
He loads it up. It was a forty five seventy
old lever action, puts one in the chamber and sets
it on top of the counter. Now where the counter
ends on the right hand side, as you're facing inside
the cabin. He said it was about a foot and
a half before that the window on the back portion,
that two foot wide, five foot tall window started. And
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then further this way was the second one towards the door.
He set it down, and he grabbed his plumb bob
and he goes back over and as he was walking
back over to the stove, the second one closest to
the door of the narrow window, the five foot tall,
two foot wide one. As anyone knows, if your curtains
are open at nighttime and you have a light on inside,
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you kind of a mirrored effect, right, And so as
he was walking he noticed something in that window and
it startled to me. Turned to look all it was
part of his reflection. So he's like, oh, okay, I'm
paranoid because of the feeling I just had, basically explaining
it away, I reacted to my reflection. So he gets
on the stove and he's using his plumbob again and
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he's pretty satisfied with it. He has to go back
outside to grab the stovepipe to start putting it together.
He said, when he went to the door and grabbed
the doorknob, he just got this overwhelming sense of he
didn't want to go outside. There was no voices in
his head or anything. He just sensed that he didn't
want to go outside. So he backs away from the door.
He's trying to figure out why, so he turns around
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to his left hand side to head back to the
counter to grab his rifle. He wanted to get it done.
It's getting older and he can't avoid it. He's got
to get it done. So as he turns again, something
catches his eye in that window, but when he looks,
it's just part of his reflection. So you need to
calm down. He catches his breath, kind of chuckles to himself,
chill out. He walks back over to the counter to
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grab the rifle. In that window that's about a foot
and a half from the end of the counter. As
he's walking, all of a sudden, he sees something there,
but he turns and didn't see anything. The only difference
being is he couldn't explain it away because what he
saw was lower than his reflection was. Right now, he
was roughly four feet off the ground at the floor
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on these pilings. The motion he saw had to have
been another almost three and a half four foot in
the window because the windows were set two feet off
the floor. So he stood there for a second. He
couldn't explain it away because it didn't match, so he
estimated because of just that instant where he saw something
out of the corner of his eye. Initially he was
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guessing about eight to nine foot whatever it was had
to be h and nine foot tall or standing on
something outside. Again, when he looked out the window and
went and got one of those antiquated flashlights, he wasn't
seeing anything. He thought he maybe was spending too much
time alone in the woods. So he grabs a rifle
and he brings and leans it up against the wall
next to the stove where he's working, and then he's
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standing there for a second. He goes, I gotta get
that stowpipe. So he grabs a rifle again real quick,
grabs a flashlight he left on the counter, and he
goes over the door and he opens it real quick
with the flashlight on. He's holding the rifle up just
looking around. He doesn't see anything. So he sets a
rifle down inside the door because he needs a free
hand to grab the snowpipe, which right the bottom of
the stairs, just tucked up against the wall. He said.
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He went down the stairs to the right hand side,
so he grabs a stovepipe from out of under there,
and he's going back up the stairs and he gets
that overwhelming sense of he's going to be grabbed again.
As soon as he's getting that sensation. Around the corner,
which would be that same side of the wall where
those two longer windows are the narrower were ones, he
heard a grunt. He said. The grunt was a very
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deep and very powerful, but it was real short. The
sound wasn't drawn out at all. It was just a
short grunt, and he felt it in his feet. He
gets inside, slams the door and locks it. But he's
standing there for a second with his back against the door,
breathing real hard. He drops the stovepipe, sets it down,
grabs a rifle that was leaning right next to him,
and he starts looking out those windows, going back and
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forth from each one. He goes and he shuts off
the lights. He's standing basically in the center of the
room and he's got one window right here to his right,
one to his left, and a big four foot square
one behind him. His focus was over here right keeps.
Every once in a while he'll hit the flashlight on it. Nothing,
hit the flashlight on the other window. Nothing. He said,
he's guessing because he was creaking out. He thought it
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was about twenty twenty five minutes he was doing that,
And then he said, you know this ridiculous. I'm inside,
I'll know if something's trying to get in. I'll have
time to do whatever. So he goes over into the
kitchen area where there's a light above the counter, above
that little window. So he goes over and turns that
one on. You know, he looks back over at the
stove and it was still a little dark over there.
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He goes, I'll turn on the main one. The main
switch worked three separate lights going down the center of
the peak because he kept it cathedral style ceiling on
the inside. So he went over, he hit that switch
and turned it on. He's trying to do all this
while holding this rifle, and so finally he just set
it down next to the stove and he starts putting
the stovepipe together in the middle of the floor. So
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he gets about three sections together so it'll at least
poke out the hole he's gonna cut, and then he
commences to start cutting this hole through the metal room. Now,
the metal roofs we have in these modern times are
a lot different. The metal he was using was scrapped
from some kind of canery somewhere, and all he had
was basically these four foot squares that he put on
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like scales or shingles. He was contemplating how he was
going to cut into this corrugated metal, and he didn't
really have any good options. He had a hacksaw and
a drill, right, So what he decided to do is
he was going to drill a bunch of holes around
and then use the hacksaw blade to cut between the holes,
just to minimize the manual effort. And so as he's
sitting there plotting, he starts feeling watched again. Now he's
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got the main lights on and the light on over
the scene, so he turns around and looks, and he's
not seeing anything, so he continues what he's doing. He
was fumbling around. He got his drill, so he was
running the cord and stuff. The biggest bit he had
was like a three quarter inch bit. He started doing
his thing, and as he was drilling the first couple
of holes, he drilled towards the end of what he
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was doing, just for poked through our right. When it
poked through, it made this real loud, squealing noise. It
was kind of like no nails on a chalkboard to him.
And so after a couple of those he had stopped,
and all of a sudden he hears that same squeal
coming from outside. And stay tuned for more sasquatch out
to sea. We'll be right back after the east messages,
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he said. Had he known the drill wasn't running, he
would have assumed it was the exact noise the drill
made which really got his attention. So he's standing there
and he's standing on the stove. He's working above his head.
As he's doing so, directly behind him on the wall,
he hears bam ha. It's shock the shit out of him.
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It was a controlled fall off of the stove. As
he lands, hits his back against the wall, grabs his
rifle and he's clear pointing to that side. He didn't
see anything. His heart was pounding out of his chest.
He goes and grabs a flashlight and he's looking out
those two narrow windows. He said he probably he stood
there like probably half an hour, bringing his heart rate down.
He said he was walking back over to the sink
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because that's where he had this container that he had
water in and stuff. He was going to get some water,
and he went over. He sat down, the flashlight and
a rifle on the counter. He poured water into this
jug and he turns around. He's drinking his water, and
he takes a couple of steps, and now he's facing
the door, and that big four foot square window is
basically right there, about three feet from him where he
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was standing. He said. As he's drinking his water, he
notices movement in the window and he slowly turns and
this thing is looking at him. The level of shock
when you meet something like that eye to eye is
really hard to put in the words. The best analogy
I could think of is every fiber of your being
wanting to run, but it's stuck in your skin. It's
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like an electrical shock. From what he explained to me
through talking to him, he experienced a very similar kind
of a shock to the system. He drops his water cup,
and he said when he did, this thing came in close,
basically damn near, pressing his face against the window, and
started looking up and around and looking at him. He
said the feeling he got initially was like, hey, what
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you doing in here? Feel to it because it was startling.
But he said there was no overt aggression. It was
just there. And he said, the way it was looking
up and around, I've heard similar from other people. I
would chalk it up to a curiosity. That's the only
thing that would make sense. So he said, he stood
there for a second and started yelling hey, because he
didn't know what the hell to do. The thought of
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his gun. It was two feet behind him on the counter,
and the only thing he could think it was yell.
He starts yelling, and it backed away a little bit
and then growled at him. And he said, the way
the mirrored effect from the inside and how it growled,
he watched the window rattle from this thing growling at him.
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He said, that's when he snapped out of it and
grabbed his rifle. And when he turned around, he didn't
see anything in the window. Right, So he's standing there
and he's got the rifle shouldered. At this point, he's
really thinking he has lost his mind. He was like,
maybe I need a break, maybe I need to get
away from here for a while. And as he's sitting
there imagining that he's losing his mind, and as he's
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doing so, at this point, he had kind of lowered
the barrel of the rifle and he was kind of
looking around, turning around. Everyone swallowed to check the window
behind him, because that's where the one was, right off
the counter towards the back of the cabin. And so
he turned around, sat down the rifle, picked up the
cup that he had water in, and goes over and
starts pouring some more water. Now, as he's doing so,
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he notices, because he's cooking down at what he's doing,
he notices movement right in front of him. So he
stops what he's doing slowly, you know, he reaches over,
he grabs the rifle and kind of scoots it to
where he can get a better grip on it. And
he looks up and there this thing is looking right
at him, watching what he's doing, watching his hand pull
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the gun closer. And he said, as he was pulling
the gun to shoulder it, he was doing it real
smooth and slow. As he was doing so, it furled
his brow. He said, the look he got at it
this time was a lot better than when it came
up close because of the mirrored effect, the way the
light was hitting it, and then it growled. But he said,
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the way the light above that sink was on when
it came in closer and was looking, he got a
real clear look at it, very defined brow ridge, heavily wrinkled.
He said. It was a real deep dark chocolate tan color,
wrinkle upon wrinkle. He said it looked ancient. The eyes,
they weren't all black. He said that they were like
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a golden yellow and almost glowed with a little bit
of light that was reflecting out from the cabin. He said,
he was almost hypnotized at the eyes. I asked, did
you see the nose? He goes, When I looked, the
thing he noticed most was the wrinkley skin, a deep
dark chocolate kind of leathery look, and those eyes. Once
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he saw the eyes, it was the eyes, you know
what I mean, like a golden yellow, very vibrant and
a slight glow to him right now, he's standing there,
but as he shouldered the gun, it moved how, this
time on his shoulders the gun. He starts yelling in instinctively,
(35:24):
he turns and just shoots up through the roof. Boom,
And he said it was loud as hell. Inside his
ear started ringing. Once he shot, everything felt like it
calmed down. He said, he's not sure how long he
stood there, but after a couple of moments of standing there,
once the initial holy crap it, a little bit of
anger died off. He started shaking real hard, and he
(35:48):
sat down and leaned his back against the counter. He
sat there, He's not sure how long now, off that
back corner where that four foot window is. If you're
facing the cabin, it'd be off to the left, back,
just off the corner. It was running for the lights
going on and stuff. When he had shouldered the gun,
it moved off in that direction right. You know, he
was just sitting there thinking. At that point the generator
(36:09):
went off. If anyone's had a generator, you know, when
you hear the RPMs are going down, your lights are
damn it. Soon as he heard that, immediately he jumps
up and grabs a flashlight and goes to that four
foot window and turns it on. To see what he
can of the generator, because he could only see about
maybe the last third of it from his perspective. There
he saw the generator, he couldn't see anything else. And
(36:30):
then all of a sudden, it looked like the generator
was pulled away, pulled out of view. This is a
large World War Two era generator from some kind of
mobile unit. Right, they're on trailers, trailers specifically built, and
they're bolted to these trailers.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
Right.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
You got to connect a big vehicle with a strong
motor to move it, even if it was not connected
to a truck. It's so heavy. You're not going to
just sit there and move it around by the tongue
of the trailer. It's too heavy. He saw it move
out of his view. He really started getting a sinking feeling.
His initial fear turned to anger at that point because
(37:09):
he needs his generator. Also, he has no idea how
to deal with what's going on, he said. At that point,
he went over, sat back down where he was, turned
off the flashlight and sat there with his knees up
and the rifle in his lap. He said he was
sitting there quiet, hoping this thing would come back in
front of that four foot window. He said, if it did,
I was going to just shoot through the window and
(37:30):
kill this thing. That was the thought. So he's sitting there,
it's dark now, he's got all the stuff going through
his mind, and as he's sitting there, just wishing this
thing would come back in front of the window so
he can get some shots on it, all of a sudden,
the whole place started shaking because it was pounding near
the front door. He said it sounded like it would
hit one side, then the opposite side of the door
(37:53):
was shaking the whole place, and he said at that
point he was sick and tired of being scared, so
he just turned and started shooting through the door. He
said it was three inches thick solid wood. He didn't
have much confidence that the rounds he was firing. These
were soft tip forty five seventy. Even though they were
busting through the door, he wasn't confident they had the
(38:13):
stopping power because they went through the door, slowing down
to the velocity and all that. He said, he clearly
remembers having four rounds in there. So he shot four times.
He turned the flashlight on and he's looking now. When
he was shooting, because you got to understand it's dark
in there. His flashlights right on the counter behind him
(38:34):
when he's shooting, sitting down firing. When he was shooting
for center, mess of the door or anything like it
was bam. He was just shooting right. So when he
grabs a flashlight and turns it on towards the door,
only three of the shots went right through the door.
They were pretty close together. And then the four shot,
he couldn't make out where it went through, right. So
(38:55):
as he goes over closer to the door, but not
all the way to it, he's looking around. He backs
back up, grabs the rest of the box of cartridges,
puts him in his pocket, and he's loading up the Winchester,
he said, as he's loading it up. And once it
was loaded and he had a round in the chamber.
Every once in a while there was a bang against
the cabin somewhere. It was always a random, different place,
they said. He sat back into the corner where the
(39:18):
cabinets were, the lower cabinets by the sink in the
back of the cabin He positioned himself that he couldn't
see the window, and that was comforting enough. Right, he
could still see that four foot window, but he was
also obscuring any line of sight from those two side windows.
So the only one he had worried about something staring
at him was at that four foot square window, and
(39:38):
he wanted it to stare at him to that window
because he wanted to shoot this thing. So he said
he sat there. Eventually, once he adrenaline started fading, he
fell asleep. He said. He woke up in the morning
laying on the floor in a fetal position, right near
where he was initially. He woke up to a slight
breeze he felt when he opened his eyes, it was
(40:01):
daylight and the door was open. He said, his heart's sack.
He jumped up. He spumbling for the gun. He's got
the gun. He's looking. He said. There was a real
foul odor. The whole place stunk. Freaked him out because
he said it was so overwhelming it was making him
want a vomit. He's looking around and with the daylight,
he's trying to focus his eyes. He's just startled awake,
(40:24):
and he notices something liquid was on the floor from
about the halfway point of the cabin back over to
the door. He starts to looking the odor was from
wherever this was. He just figured, okay, this then came
and pissed. That's the only thing that made sense to
him because it was similar to us if some guy
(40:44):
pissed on the floor basically peeing back and forth on
their way up the door, walking backwards or something. I mean,
that's the only thing he could equate what it looked like. Right,
So he goes outside, he said, he looked around, but
you know, he's looking for tracks. He circles around. The
general was basically in the same position. It was just shifted.
(41:04):
The back end was shifted. So when he was looking
out and it was moved, all the wires were still connected.
It's just a back end was shifted out of his view.
He goes back over there to inspect it. He looks
at everything. It was still connected. You could see the
tired drag marks. So he goes around to the other
side of it. Because of the leaves and the debris
from the trees and stuff, being in the fall time,
(41:26):
he could see impressions, but none of them stood out
as a bigfoot track. It was just heavy impressions. So
he said, at that point he looked around and said,
you know what, today's a good day for a drive.
I need to go and get someone out here with me.
He left. He shut the door, he didn't lock it.
He figured if it was going to do something, he
didn't want it damaging anything. He'd rather let it get
(41:49):
in easy, since it was just a shell basically at
this point. Right. So he went and visited some people
for a minute, asked him some questions, if they've ever
dealt with anything weird? They kind of half fast answered, yeah,
there's always something weird happening up here. Kind of thing
left it real open in general. He ended up getting
gas and then driving to Palmer, you know, which is
(42:13):
hundreds of miles away, to go and talk to one
of his cousins. He has family there now, however, that's
because he started that trend of family going there. Right.
So he goes and sees a cousin in Palmer, talks
to him, tells him everything that was going on, and
asked him if you'd come out there with them. The
cousin reluctantly agreed and said, you don't want trouble with
(42:36):
the bushman. You know what'd you do? And he's I'm
just building a cabin. I didn't do anything. I didn't
shoot until I felt like I was in danger. His
cousin said okay and came with them. His cousin stayed
with him a couple months, and nothing else happened for
the thirty years until he ended up moving. For the
life of him, he doesn't know why this saying did that.
For the life of him, he doesn't know why it stopped.
(42:58):
It was just he dealt with all this stuff and
then it's just stopped, just went away. He never felt
weird again, he never felt watched. Outside of his cousin
and a couple other people since mid sixties, I was
the only one. He told the whole thing too. I
respect and understand how difficult that can be. I want
(43:22):
to thank Bernard for making that effort to share that.
Before I let you guys go, I want to mention
this is not unique. A lot of the people that
have reached out since my last update video for Miss
Carrol's are all considered elders seventy or better. I want
to thank them for recognizing the effort. I'm just trying
(43:43):
to warn people that being said, thanks for joining me.
I will catch you guys on the next one.
Speaker 3 (43:49):
They say, you don't got to go, But you guess,
say feels we're all open.
Speaker 4 (44:11):
Inside steps Stick sayside steps.
Speaker 2 (44:25):
I'm trying to try that chart everything.
Speaker 3 (44:29):
Call me ride back, right back, joy from me, enjoy
stay right there, came it right away.
Speaker 4 (44:46):
Side said, Still say says says. Sissie says to us,
(45:37):
say games stsssssst used to these things.
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