August 12, 2025 • 41 mins
In this episode Fred from Alaska shares a captivating story involving two friends, Stewart and Cliff, who embark on a trout fishing trip to Burnt Cabin Creek, located far from Dillingham, Alaska.
The trip starts with logistical challenges and the threat of bears, leading the pair to arm themselves for safety. They encounter an eerie series of events marked by unsettling shrieks and the eventual sighting of what appears to be a Bigfoot-like creature.
The escalating tension peaks when the creature approaches their cabin, leading to a tense standoff. Ultimately, weather and a timely flight rescue them from the increasingly nerve-wracking situation.
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00:00 Introduction and Setting the Scene 01:25 The Fishing Trip Begins 04:15 First Encounter with the Unknown 08:50 The Mysterious Creature Revealed 14:45 A Night of Tension 20:37 Final Day and Departure 34:39 Conclusion and Reflections
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The trip starts with logistical challenges and the threat of bears, leading the pair to arm themselves for safety. They encounter an eerie series of events marked by unsettling shrieks and the eventual sighting of what appears to be a Bigfoot-like creature.
The escalating tension peaks when the creature approaches their cabin, leading to a tense standoff. Ultimately, weather and a timely flight rescue them from the increasingly nerve-wracking situation.
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00:00 Introduction and Setting the Scene 01:25 The Fishing Trip Begins 04:15 First Encounter with the Unknown 08:50 The Mysterious Creature Revealed 14:45 A Night of Tension 20:37 Final Day and Departure 34:39 Conclusion and Reflections
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now one of your pudding. I got a string going
on here, something just cause my dog. Something killed your dog,
my dog. We're flying through the air, over the tree.
I don't know how it did it, Okay, Damn, I'm
really confused. All I saw was my dog coming over
the fence and he was dead. And once you hit
the ground, like, I didn't see any cars. All I
saw was my dog coming over the fence. Sat, what
(00:38):
are you putting? We got some wonder or something crawling
around out here? Did you see what it was or
was it was? Standing enough. I'm out here looking through
the window now and I don't see anything. I don't
want to go outside. Jesus Quice, you better hello, get
(01:03):
somebody out here. Quin, I'm out there. I thought of
a bitch of about tech forty nine. I don't know
easy out there. Yeah, I'm walking right head.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Hey, everybody, Before we get into today's show, I want
to let you know why this episode is a little late.
Last week, I was up in Pennsylvania to speak at
a conference. While I was there, I had a medical
emergency and I ended up needing surgery. That meant my
trip home got delayed, and so did getting this episode
out on time. I'm back home now, I'm recovering, and
I'm slowly getting back on track. Thank you truly for
(01:36):
your patience and understanding while I've been dealing with this.
If recovery keeps going the way it's been going, we
should be back to our normal schedule this week. I
also just want to say thank you from the bottom
of my heart to everyone who reached out, the messages,
the check ins. It all meant so much. I won't lie.
This was scary and painful, but I was surrounded by
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my Bigfoot family and I'm grateful for every single one
of you. And Hey, this Wednesday, I'm planning to post
another bonus show. I'll be narrating an amazing story and
you do not want to miss it. So follow the show, subscribe,
turn on auto downloads wherever you listen so you never
miss an episode. All right, let's get into today's stories
(02:20):
from Fred in Alaska.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Greetings fread in Alaska. What I want to share with
you today comes from a couple of trout fishermen. These
guys man, they were out in the Two Leys for real.
They were up vet for Cabin Creek, which is far
from doing him. This is almost damn near dumb all
that insane great trout fishing phenomenal for natural trout. Let's
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name them Stuart and Cliffs. Stuart was a ringleader of
the idea. Stuart originally from Idaho, lived down in Oregon.
He had been coming to Alaska for many years doing
the fishing thing. Not his first time in the Bristol
Bay area, some of the places by nack Nick and
the pue Jack and so on, up by Iliamna. He
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just got the idea one day and just was looking
at the map and said, there, I bet you there's
good trout right there. And he's absolutely right. We get
to the largest semmer returning the world that go up
to Neusigak River, the Wood River, the Snake River, and
so on, largest return in the world, undeniable millions upon
millions of all five species up. But where they were
going is where the salmon go to spawn. They get
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back up into the flats and all the ponds back
up in there, and that's where they spawn out at
least a large portion of them. Going on that knowledge,
they went late season to capitalize on the trout eating
up the salmon eggs that kind of get away and
basically the nice and plumped, good sized, healthy fish. This
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was approximately eight years ago, so Stewart invites his buddy
Cliff still lived in Idaho. Basically was like, I'm all
for it. Loved to fly fish and all that. So
they make their arrangements and whatnot, and they used a
service out of Anchorage to fly them in. He reserved
the cabin there, reserved it for five days. They were
going to just get dropped in, do their thing, fish
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and have a great time. They get there. It took
a few extra days to get there, which only leaves
them three days for their cabin reservation left. So he's
doing his thing to change the itinerary for the cabin rental,
and fortunately he was able to get it wop to
accommodate for the two weather days that they didn't account for,
which it's Alaska weather rules all. I don't care what
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anyone says unless you're going by road, and even then
you take the chances. But they get there. They were
a little bummed out and tired from half of that
two day layover and anchorage and waiting for a weather break.
So they were like constantly on alert. They didn't want
to go too far from the hotel and not be
ready to take off from they could, And so they
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kind of wore themselves out a little bit in Anchorage
waiting to get out.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Now.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
Stuart said that one of his friends that lives in
Anchorage in loan of a twelve gear shotgun, plenty of
bear ammo buckshot slugs, whatever, also a nine millimeter pistol,
just because they were going to be on the Salmon
River in the fall. Bears are a serious issue if
you don't take it seriously. They write books about the shit.
So if you're unaware, you do some google searches about
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para tax in Alaska, just he'd warning. So they get there,
Stewart said, the first couple of days they were just
really groggy, trying to get moving motivated. They were socked
in perfect fishing weather. They got their lines wet the
first couple of days, but only for about an hour
or so, trying to gain the energy. They were just
both zapped, he said. The night of that second day,
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it was going into dusk. They were planning on going
back out. They get back down. You got to understand,
the brush was a bitch, a lot of willows and
alders and stuff, banking right along the river bank. There
was one spot where it was shallower. It's where they
could get across. They maneuver their way down and there's
a place where they got chest waiters. So they crossed
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there and they're just going up around what is essentially
it's not necessarily an island. It's where the river kind
of branches and just to split there right near the
cabin at heading west or whenever it kind of splits,
wraps around and then continues on down. Then Burt Creek
is directly north of them. They got across this little
shallower area just above the knees, and they were going
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to wrap up and get on top of this. We'll
call it an island for the sake of explanation. So
they get up on there and they can still see
the cabin right over there. They hear this shriek. The
shreek was very loud, very powerful, and they couldn't tell
where the hell it came from because it sounded like
it was all around them. So they both look at
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each other. Cliff was like, what is that? Stuart was like,
I don't know, but maybe we should just do this
lower branch here and just fish that and clipsy. No,
absolutely not. I'm going back inside. What the hell that is?
You need to come inside too?
Speaker 1 (07:02):
What is that?
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Cliff had worked basically not a biologist, but helping in
the field for a biology team years ago, and had
time around bears, brown bears, grizzlies, black bears, and stuff,
and so he wasn't a total novice when it came
to natural sounds. He deemed that non natural. I totally
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understand from what Stewart explained that shriek was ear piercing
and powerful. He said it sounded like they were in
an amphitheater because it was everywhere. They couldn't pinpoint a
direction the amount of unease, He said, immediately all the
hair stood up on their arms and necks and stuff,
and they just quietly maneuvered on back, followed their back trail,
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crossed back across and went to the cabin. He said.
The rest of that night was fairly uneventful. They heard
one more weird noise they couldn't quite make out because
they were in the cabin and it was at a distance,
and it sounded like it was coming from Burke Cabin Creek. Again.
He said, it was just a loud noise he couldn't
tell if it was a roar, a moan, a scream
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or whatever. It was just a loud enough noise that
got their attention and they couldn't quite make it out
because of distance. So on eventful night they got up
the next morning in the wee hours, rediscussed that weird
shriek sound, and they decided okay. Cliff was like, give
me one of the guns, and so Stuart said, here,
take the shotgun. You like to take the lead anyway,
you have the shotgun in case of bear, I'll carry
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the nine millimeter. And so they got their plan of action.
They're going to continue and go and do what they
were going to do the night before. Stuart said, when
they crossed the river at it shallowest point there, he said,
when they got back up onto what we'll call the island,
it's basically just where the river split around. They get
up on this island and they're wrapping around going north
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up towards the Burke Creek side. Fishing the whole time.
I caught a couple kind of lackluster but fun. Nonetheless,
Cliff got a little ahead of Stuart yells out, hey,
don't get too far ahead of me, so Cliff stops.
Cliff was casting away doing his thing as Stuart was
catching up, basically casting as well, and the water is
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crystal clear. They could see down at the bottom. They
could see where the fish were, where the overhangs, word,
where to cast let it drift by to draw up
the trout. He said it was a perfect time of
morning because it was just as the sun was about
to come up. You could see the sun hitting the
tops of their about eleven twelve hundred foot little basically
mounds mountains if you will. I don't think they're tall
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enough for mountains, but these big hills like buttes. He said.
He was just sitting there and he's like, where is
the songbirds? It's in that moment it dawned on him
how freaking quiet it was. So he starts kind of
assessing the situation, looking around, checking his six and all
that there must be a bear around. So he gets
Cliff's attention, gets closer to Cliff and says, hey, I
(09:55):
think there's a bear around. With the sun coming up,
there should be some songbirds or something, some kind of
sound of wildlife. Cliff's sitting there listening. He's, yeah, you're right.
So they take a moment. Cliff was changing out his
gear anyway, as far as his lore, He's going to
throw in a bloodworm, because that's what Stuart had been
having luck with from what he was saying. So as
he's tying on this bloodworm, they're basically just a little
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below the mouth of Burt Cavin Creek. They could see
up in a little ways, but not very much from
their vantage point because they were just off which would
be to the west, a bit right the west of
where the creek meets the Nooshigak, which kind of goes
up this long, kind of shallow valley. So as they're
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at that point, they hear that shriek again. It's coming
from up Burt Cavin Creek. They both sit there. There's
that noise again. What the hell is that? They had
no clue, so they just hunkered down where they were
listening looking for movement. Stuart said that at one point
Cliff stood up and was taken off his backpack and
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he had his back towards the creek that Stuart was
looking up because where they were sitting at the edge,
he stood up and turned around to take the pack off,
set it down and turn around and lean back against it.
But at that point where he was standing up, Stuart
saw a movement up the creek. He said, it looked
like the big old black bear going out of the
(11:22):
creek into the brush. It was real fast. So he
got Cliff's attention, said, hey, a big black bear just
cut up into the brush over there. That must have
been what was making that noise. But it was like,
bears don't make those kind of noises. They can make
some god awful noises, but that's a shriek like a woman.
It made no sense. He said, hey, I know what
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I saw. Cliff was like, it was a black bear.
He goes, yeah, it was freaking huge. So they had
this little debate about how big black bears can get
and so on. Right now, both their attention is up
burn Cavin Creek and as they're looking they notice a
dark form. It was like they would see it right there,
then a moment later it'd be a little closer. But
(12:05):
the form they were seeing was not bear like, it
was man like. With the way the sun was coming
from the east, this thing was in the shade of
this about twelve hundred foot Mound mountain or whatever just
to their east. It was right there, so the way
the sun direction was coming, this thing was in shadow.
It was silhouetted in the alders and the willows, and
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he said this thing was incrementally getting closer. Every couple
of moments. It was a little bit closer, and they
were like, that is not bair behavior. It was really weird.
They felt like it was looking at him, dropping out
of you, coming back into view, looking at him again,
dropping out of you. Predatory type things. So Stuart said,
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that's when he got real uneasy. Cliff was like, maybe
we should move down a little ways. Give us room.
It's not a black bear, give us room to react
if it's something with ill in tens. They both agreed,
and they moved a little further to the west on
that upper channel where Burke Creek comes into it. Stewart
said they got about another maybe one hundred and fifty
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feet ish because they were moving slow and quiet and
keeping an eye right so as they do that. He
said they got about one hundred and fifty feet before
this thing came out almost at the mouth of the creek.
He said, it couldn't have been more than maybe fifty
sixty feet back from the mouth of the creek where
it meets the nous gag comes out and it's standing
and it's still in the shadow of that butte, that mountain.
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He said it stood there. He said it was the
darkest thing he had ever seen. It was darker than
pitch black. I could relate, I've seen similar, but he said,
the thing, if it was, it came out and was
standing in the creek and was looking right in their
direction and started swaying back and forth faster and faster,
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and it was all happening real quick. So Cliff was like, hey,
that dude needs to calm down again. Bigfoot Harry Manner.
None of that was popping in their head at the
moment because from their vantage point the way things were,
they weren't able to grasp exactly how big this thing
was just yet they're seeing it, and when it came
into the creek. He wasn't sure exactly how deep the
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creek was there where it came out into, but they
were seeing basically from just above the knees out of
the water and up so to them it was a
large dude, but it wasn't registering exactly the overall size
of this thing. As they were staring Cliff kind of
had the shotgun and was like, let's get a guy's attention.
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So they start collaring, Hey, we're over here, we're over here,
and this thing never stopped looking at him, was swaying
back and forth faster and faster, and then it drops down,
which when it dropped down into basically all fours, it
was just head and shoulders they could see above the water,
and it leapt back out in the direction it came
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out from, which he said it was so bizarre how
it just dropped down and then jumped out and.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see. We'll be
right back after these messages.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
I asked him, do you know how deep it is there?
And he wasn't aware. They didn't go and measure or nothing,
but this thing leapt out back into the brush, and
then they saw a brush moving in noises and weird
growls and sounds being made as this sinc moved the
way back up to Bert Capitol Creek. So they were like, okay,
now is the time, because that's obviously not a dude.
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A sane man doesn't act that way. So basically they
had to backtrack the way they came because again. They
were breaking trail outside of some small game trails, which
is not easy to do. Break and trail womb be
some serious pain in the ass. So they start backtracking
and once they're straight on again with burt Cabin creek,
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this thing pops out again splash, and at that point
they both stop and they're watching because all of a
sudden they hear the splash. It's coming down the creek
towards them right Adam Cliff freaks out stands up because
initially when they heard the splash, they both hunker down
a little bit, got a little lower, and Cliff stands
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up with the shotgun and aims at that direction, and
this thing Jinn give a fly in rat's ass, kept
coming at them.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Again.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
It's at a distance, it's not like it's right on
them or anything, but Cliff took data is enough to
pop around off right, so as he lets the shot go.
It startled the hell out of Stewart because he wasn't
expecting it because he was so transfixed on this thing
coming down the creek. The gunshot goes off, and all
of a sudden, this thing beers off into the brush
again like it had where it came from Originally the
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Stewards like, what the hell, what did you shoot it?
Did you? And he goes to the cliff, was like, no,
it was a warning shot. So again, the thing is
in the brush making noise. They can see the brush moving,
they can hear these weird noise growls, whoops, some clicking
and popping and some other stuff, and they were like,
what the hell. So they continued on retreating while this
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thing wasn't actively watching them. They scooted around. They made
it back to the cabin, which in the big sem
of things is just right over there. Yeah, it's not
that far, not far enough from my liking. So they
get back to the cabin and this is just after
Suna on day three. They're assessing what do we do
with that? Again, they weren't registering harry Man, but there
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was talk of a feral human. Right, is that some
hunter that got lost now is a maniac or something?
Maybe he killed black bear and has a black bear
outfit on or whatever. And so they're discussing all these
things because it had to a bit large, the way
it was moving in the creek, the way it leapt
out of the creek, all these movements weren't like someone
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in a suit or a fur garment get up. And
eventually the conversation makes it around to Bigfoot, and they're
both like, really a sasquatch, really, because again, it wasn't
really in their wheelhouse. So they start discussing, all there's
stupid TV shows about it and this, and that maybe
there's some truth to some of it. They couldn't discount
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it now after what they've just seen. So they're debating
whether or not throw human sasquatch whatever. And as they're
having this discussion, they had the door open on the
cabin and every once in a while Cliff would go
over to the door and look out it. He had
it open to hear, but they got the sounds of
the river, which wasn't overly loud or anything, the wind
blowing every once in a while, rustling of the leaves,
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and everything like that. As he's making his way back
up to the door for third or fourth time during
this whole conversation period as what's going on into just
before noon, they hear that shriek again, but this time
as Cliff gets to the door to look out it,
the shriek is somewhere right around them. Right. It is loud.
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Stuart said, it was so loud it startled him out
of where he was sitting at this little bench seat things.
He jumped up, grabbed the shotgun because it was sitting
right next to him, grabbed the shotgun. It comes over
by the door. Cliff is looking around. I found a
comical that Stuart grabs his shotgun, is going to the door.
Cliff turns goes right past him, looking for the same shotgun. Right.
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Stuart's at the door and he's looking around and he
was like, did you hear where that came from? And
Cliff said, straight out, straight outside the door, the way
this little trail is down to the river. There was
nothing there to see, and so they didn't know where
it was coming from. And then they heard it again,
and then it was obvious it was somewhere behind the
cabin and they were hearing the echo as it hit
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that little river rush area, and so they were like,
oh shit. So Stuart goes out the door, goes around
to the side and is looking back towards behind the cabin,
and sure enough, about seventy feet or so off the
back of this cabin through the brush, he sees this
dark movement and it's going back and forth. But as
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it's going back and forth, it's getting closer. So he
retreats inside and tells clip, hey, it's coming this way.
Inside the little cabin door off to the right hand
side as you step in is these little seats, little window.
Then you got the woodstove over here on the left
hand side, and then a small little countertop area and
a loft up top, small window in the loft, small
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window behind the sink, and the just the one window
off to the right, and then the woodstove. He comes inside,
cliffs right there. They shut the door and they both
look out that window on the right hand side. I guess, yeah,
if you're looking at the cabin from the front, it
would be to the right. If you're in it, it's
to the left facing the door whatever. So they start
looking out that as they're standing there door. It's holding
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the shotgun and they're looking and they could see this
darkness coming closer and closer out of the brush and
it pops up. It stands up almost like dead, even
with that window, because as it was moving closer, they
said that it looked like it would peek up and
drop back down like it was doing before up on
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the Burt Cabin creek. So as soon as it got
in parallel with the cabin at the window, it stood up.
He said. That's when they understood its overall size. He said,
this thing was at least eleven foot tall, four and
a half foot wide at the shoulders. Not body builder build,
but real close to it. Very muscular, very powerful looking.
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And it was pitch black. I was asking about features
or anything, he said, it was pitch black. And with
the way the sun was rising from the east, it
was still in the shadow of the cabin right, so
they couldn't make out anything other than the slightest glint
of light in the black eyes. That's all they could
make out. It wasn't like eyeshine or nothing, but just
the life in the eyes, so to speak. And it
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stood there and started swaying again, faster and faster and faster,
and they're just in shock watching this. All of a
sudden it drops down and tears off the direction of
burn Cabin creek. He said. When it took off fast,
it was working itself up back and forth, faster, faster,
and then pay them it was gone. Startled them how
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quickly it took off. Stuart said, they looked at each other.
Cliff was like, holy shit, runs over to the door
and opens it. And then when they open it and look,
some of their view was obscured by the brush, but
they seen the brush and this periodically, this dark mass
as it tore across the river back up onto that
island thing and gone in the direction of burn Cabin Creek.
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They were like, holy shit, what the hell do we
do with that?
Speaker 4 (22:40):
Now?
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Granted, you gotta understand, this is halfway through day three
of a five day not counting a god forbid weather
comes in and messes everything up. So they spend the
rest of that day very close to the cabin. Obviously
they didn't want to go out. I totally understand they
were having discussions about Bigfoot. Do they remember hearing anything
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on how to deal with them, what to do? Where
are they going to go? They got flown in where
are they going to go? So they play it safe.
Morning day four, they wake up and they hear this
hillacious scream coming way up cabin Creek. He said it
had to have been miles away. It was still loud,
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but you could tell it was at it a good distance.
So they heard that first thing at sunrise because they'd
been wanting to fish, but they were too scared to
leave the cabin. They didn't know what the hell this
thing was going to do or whatever because of how
it was acting. And so they decide, let's just go
right down here, right in front of the cabin, do
some fishing. We'll keep an eye out. We'll have enough view.
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If we have to retreat, we could shoot. We can
get back to the cabin, they both agreed. Now, Cliff
he had at one of these original version digital cameras.
It was like four megapixel or something. He was trying
to get that into operation. But all the batteries he
brought up until that morning, somewhere before the original shriek,
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it was able to take pictures this mine if the
batteries were all functional. They were all brand new, and
he kept trying to get this camera to turn on.
It wouldn't turn on. The batteries seemed to be dead.
All this stuff, so he couldn't even take pictures of
the fish they catch without that working. He was a
little frustrated. But they make it down to the river
and they do some fishing. As they're fishing, they were
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not enjoying themselves. They were constantly looking around any kind
of noise in the brush, any wind, breeze, blue leaves
and rustled. Immediately they were overwhelmed by it. Stuart said
he maybe cast about four separate times he had gotten
a couple nibbles, which normally would totally psych him out.
He'd be fishing until he caught one. He'd do it
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for hours. As they were sitting there, they heard that
shriek again. They'd sound like his way up bird Cabin creek,
he said. When they heard that, Cliff just immediately looked
at him, shook his head and pointed like, let's go
back to the cabin. So they did. Now this is
day four, this is in the morning. Stuart and Cliff
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were sitting there debating, shit, this is a bust. We
can't even enjoy our fishing. What the hell is this thing?
And their debate goes back again to have you heard anything?
Whatever you see how fast it moved and going over
all these things, different behaviors of bobbing up and going down,
you getting closer all of it, right running down the creek,
splashing down on all fours, leaping out all of it,
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which I could totally understand. Unfortunately for them, they're stuck
where they're at. The plant's supposed to be coming the
next day, so they spend that night mellow inside, opening
the door every once in a while. Cliff was a smoker,
so he would step outside. He would smoke a cigarette,
look around, jokingly say hopefully it's not behind us. Something
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like that, just trying to break the nervous tension. So
the evening of day four, they just got done eating.
They had a bucket of soapy water that they would
put the dishes into it, rinse it off and get
the smell off it because of bears and whatnot. Right,
they scrubbed off the dishes, they dipped it into some
hot water. Now this is just river water. They had
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limited supplies that they flew in with. They got done
doing dishes, basically right their frying pan. They had some
fried potatoes and some bacon or something, so that was
soaking a little longer in that soap bucket, and they
set it outside. This is still about an hour before dusk.
So they got a soapy bucket with the frying pan
still in it. The other bucket that had the hot
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water they had dumped out and was turned upside down
just to sit while the other one because they were
going to reheat some water to rinse off the skill
it they had that out there. Clip was smoking a cigarette,
sitting on one of the three steps. The buckets were
immediately off to his right hand side, just down at
the bottom of the steps, off about maybe less than
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ten feet. As he's sitting there smoking a cigarette, sing
walks from just out of nowhere, walks right out, knocks
over the bucket, looks down at it, it looks back
at Cliff. Cliff said the face was very dark, It
looked very greasy, a lot of wrinkles. It looked like
a cave man, nothing like an ape, big broad, fat,
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bulbous kind of nose, eyes deep and sunk in, very
heavy brow ridge. The eyes just appeared to be black.
He's sitting there, the thing is like not even ten
feet away from him, and just walks on down the trail,
just looks back at him. He said he was freaking out,
but he didn't sense any outward aggression. Knocking over the
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bucket and looking down at it was more of what
is this kind of a curiosity? Nothing for me, and
just looked back at him and then just walked on
down the trail and at that point he's in shock.
What the hell am I see? And all of a sudden,
Stuart is behind him. Stewart said, when he was sitting there,
the door was open, and he had his back against
the wall on the little small bench with the table
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in the window. The woodstove is right in front of him.
He's looking out periodically because he was about to complain
to Cliff to shut the door because his cigarette smoke
was coming back in the door. He said, he was
just standing up to go and complain and give Cliff
a hard time when he saw this incumbent of you
walking down the trail and Cliff was just pushing back
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against the steps or whatever. Stewart said, he immediately grabbed
that nine millimeter handgun and got behind Cliff at the
door and fired shots into the air, which scared the
shit out of Cliff. At the same time, because he
wasn't expect he was in shock of what was just
happening also on them. It's chaotic a minute, the thing
takes off, pum gone, just like it had done the
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day before or whatever. It had rushed. After it swayed,
it was gone. It was moving so fast. So they're
freaked out. They retreat back inside. Cliff as, all the
hell are you doing? He scared shit out of me,
And so they're going back and forth. I'm not trying
to laugh at that's real freaky shit. And just the
scene I see in my mind is this only shit
I could imagine. It was not fun. So they're inside
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the arguing back and forth. What the hell I didn't
even hear it. I didn't even hear it was just there.
The there was like, calm down to what happened. He goes,
I'm sitting there smoking a cigarette. Buckets are right there.
All of a sudden, this thing walks out, kicks the
one bucket over, looks down at it, turns, looks at me.
You came out, but then split second later firing damn gun.
Between the two of them, they were guessing it was
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at least twelve foot tall, about the same four and
a half foot wide, because they obviously had a different
perspective of it at that point. Said, after it ran
off and they were inside, it got dead Kwai going
into dusk right, So at dusk, Cliff wanted to have
one more cigarette before it got dark because he wasn't
going to go outside, and he wasn't going to smoke
inside because Steward didn't. So he's standing there at the door,
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half out it, half in it, holding on to the
door knob, smoking a cigarette real fast. I could understand
one hundred percent it.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see we'll be
right back.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
After these messages, they got in their lantern fired up
and it was on the little I guess you'd call
it a kitchen counter area, a real small counter. It
was just sitting there. Cliff was like, yeah, I'm not
seeing any movement, had the nine millimeter in his pocket.
He smoked a cigarette as fast as he could and
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he leaned down put it out on the steps. It
had been drizzling a little bit as it was going
on into the evening. What they were worried about is
with this drizzling, being socked in and a plane not
making it the next day, so they were anxious about that.
They sit down after Cliff has this cigarette and they're
discussing should we put something in front of the door,
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all that kind of stuff. There was the dead bolt thing,
but the thing of it is a lot of these
cabins are left unlocked. They're not locked up. Their survival cabins.
You can reserve them, but you can also make use
of them in a survival situation, no harm, no fense.
What ended up doing is there was a piece of
someone that put up some trim on half of this
door on the inside, and the door opened pulling in.
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So what he did was they had about four or
five different types of knives. What he did was he
stuck the knives in between the trim and the door
to make another type of a lock. He did it
spaced him out. It had four or five of them
and he went top to bottom evenly spaced. So that
was their barricade, which, hey, do what you gotta do.
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My cousin was wanting to use a single sixteen penny nail.
It was quiet, nothing going on. They get ready to
crash out. Cliff didn't want to be stuck up in
the loft. He wanted to be able to maneuver. Which
I would rather be in the loft and have the
high grounds. But anyway, so Stewart's like, I'll crash up
there or whatever. Cliff was down with the twelve gage
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down on the lower portion and Stuart went up to
the end of the loft. Stuart said that just as
they were falling asleep, there was out damn something bang
shook the whole cabin. Immediately, Cliff was like screaming out nothing.
Didn't hear anything else. It got quiet again. Neither one
of them slept the rest of the night. However, come
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morning comes sunrise, it was a little foggy and they
were worried. Then the fog dissipated rather quickly to a
beautiful morning songbirds. Everything was as it should have been
the whole time, and so they're both out looking around.
They're tending to the skillet stuff that was still needed
to be finished up. As they're discussing, they both walked
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together down to the river, their songbirds and stuff. So
the energy was totally different, right, They didn't feel as nervous.
They get down there, they get things washed up because
Stewart was covering Cliff with the shotgun for obvious reasons.
As they're getting back up to the cabin, they hear
their plane off in the distance. They're like, oh shit,
there must be a system moving and he's coming a
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little early. So they gather up all their stuff. They
had to walk down a little ways to where the
plane had to land because of wind direction and all that.
So they get it all figured out. Cliff is holding
one of the ropes from the strut on one of
the wings of the plane. They didn't want to divulge
which service they used out of anchorage, which is there's
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only so many. But anyway, the person that was there
to pick them up was like, yeah, there's some severe
stores moving in. We were supposed to come later on
this afternoon, but I wanted to take the window so
we didn't miss a window and you guys be stuck
here a week. They were thankful. As they're getting everything
loaded up, the energy changed again. Right as the pilot
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was in the back of the plane adjusting for weight
and their gear, he comes out. Stuart was attempting to
hand him some of the fly fishing poles, right because
they each had a few of them different lengths and
whatever weights or whatever he was handing up to him.
They heard the shriek coming from across the river. Now
they're just west of that island, right where Burnt Creek
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is north of They were just west of that. They
heard it coming from that direction and the pilot was like,
what the hell is that? And they both were like,
we don't know. And then Cliff chimes and we know,
but we don't know. It looked like a huge cave man.
It was massive, and the guy chuckle. He goes really
and it was like, you mean bigfoot. They both kind
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of looked at him and was like, yeah, exactly like that.
And so the pilot was taken it back and was like,
I've seen some pretty strange stuff flying around. Shared a
little bit of seeing something running across a meadow or
this and that, but because of the high difference being
up in the plane and the perspective, he just chalked
it up as maybe a moose or something that he's
just getting a weird look at. So they're having this
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brief discussion and they hear the shriek again. This time
it is a lot closer. It sounded like it was
coming from that island. So the pilot was like, is
this everything here? Tipit Stuart were like yeah, he goes yeah,
let's get moving here. They get it finished up, loaded up,
and they had to taxi down, turn around and take
off and they're taking off going towards that island and
as they'd gotten into the air. They were only a
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few hundred feet and gaining altitude as they're climbing out.
As they started to bank and turn towards the I
guess it would be southeast, gaining altitude, climbing into the wind.
The pilot noticed this thing down on that island right,
and so as he's climbing, he decides he levels off
at about five hundred feet and circles back and comes
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back and comes at a little lower altitude, a couple
hundred feet off the ground, but buzzing that island. And
he was turning to the left a little bit, Stuart said.
As they were going he was saying, yeah, it was
pointing out some of the events, and the pilot goes,
there it is. They see it in the water right
near where they had just been banked at the river
loading up. Stuart said, from the vantage point of being
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in the air, they could see this thing. It was
still massive, but at a couple hundred feet up in
the air the perspective looking down, they couldn't tell its
overall height. Basically, Steward's explaining that thing is actually really massive.
The pilot goes, yeah, I could tell, but it is
literally in the water at the river bank where they'd
just taken off from. They couldn't tell what it was doing,
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but it was there, almost like inspecting. The pilot checks himself,
catches the way, gains some more altitude, comes back, and
flies back by at a much higher altitude. It was
no longer there. When they get back to Anchorage, the
service hub is right there at Lake could right. They
get over there, they're getting unloaded. They have a little van,
a courtesy vandit to get them to their hotel or
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airport or whatever. They had a night in Anchorage, and
so they were telling the driver, yeah, we're going over here,
and the pilot's talking to their shuttle driver and saying, yeah,
damn bigfoot out there. They all just nervously chuckle, but
it wasn't expanded upon. He just said we saw a bigfoot,
and shuttle drivers like okay, like whatever. It seemed like
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it was a common thing, and he goes, not really,
it just the way the pilot acknowledged it, Hey, we
saw a bigfoot. We didn't really say much as we
was nervously chuckled, yeah we did. And the shuttle driver
was like okay, almost like it wasn't given the level
of importance like it deserved. But hey, what do you do.
I want to thank Stuart and Cliff for reaching out.
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He had been pondering reaching out for the last couple
of years and hesitated, and finally he did. I want
to thank them both. There's other encounters. I've been trying
to get a hold of some people because of the
process I do. I talk to people several times just
to make sure I have all the finer details.
Speaker 4 (37:39):
Now.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
One of them says they're willing to be recorded, which
is great. Hey. I give each and every person the
opportunity to be recorded, and a lot of times, when
push comes to shove, they're like, I'll let you do it.
You do a good job. Hey, we'll see Thank you
to Cliff and Stewart.
Speaker 4 (37:55):
We'll catch you guys on the next one.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
Did di
Now one of your pudding. I got a string going
on here, something just cause my dog. Something killed your dog,
my dog. We're flying through the air, over the tree.
I don't know how it did it, Okay, Damn, I'm
really confused. All I saw was my dog coming over
the fence and he was dead. And once you hit
the ground, like, I didn't see any cars. All I
saw was my dog coming over the fence. Sat, what
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are you putting? We got some wonder or something crawling
around out here? Did you see what it was or
was it was? Standing enough. I'm out here looking through
the window now and I don't see anything. I don't
want to go outside. Jesus Quice, you better hello, get
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somebody out here. Quin, I'm out there. I thought of
a bitch of about tech forty nine. I don't know
easy out there. Yeah, I'm walking right head.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Hey, everybody, Before we get into today's show, I want
to let you know why this episode is a little late.
Last week, I was up in Pennsylvania to speak at
a conference. While I was there, I had a medical
emergency and I ended up needing surgery. That meant my
trip home got delayed, and so did getting this episode
out on time. I'm back home now, I'm recovering, and
I'm slowly getting back on track. Thank you truly for
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your patience and understanding while I've been dealing with this.
If recovery keeps going the way it's been going, we
should be back to our normal schedule this week. I
also just want to say thank you from the bottom
of my heart to everyone who reached out, the messages,
the check ins. It all meant so much. I won't lie.
This was scary and painful, but I was surrounded by
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my Bigfoot family and I'm grateful for every single one
of you. And Hey, this Wednesday, I'm planning to post
another bonus show. I'll be narrating an amazing story and
you do not want to miss it. So follow the show, subscribe,
turn on auto downloads wherever you listen so you never
miss an episode. All right, let's get into today's stories
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from Fred in Alaska.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Greetings fread in Alaska. What I want to share with
you today comes from a couple of trout fishermen. These
guys man, they were out in the Two Leys for real.
They were up vet for Cabin Creek, which is far
from doing him. This is almost damn near dumb all
that insane great trout fishing phenomenal for natural trout. Let's
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name them Stuart and Cliffs. Stuart was a ringleader of
the idea. Stuart originally from Idaho, lived down in Oregon.
He had been coming to Alaska for many years doing
the fishing thing. Not his first time in the Bristol
Bay area, some of the places by nack Nick and
the pue Jack and so on, up by Iliamna. He
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just got the idea one day and just was looking
at the map and said, there, I bet you there's
good trout right there. And he's absolutely right. We get
to the largest semmer returning the world that go up
to Neusigak River, the Wood River, the Snake River, and
so on, largest return in the world, undeniable millions upon
millions of all five species up. But where they were
going is where the salmon go to spawn. They get
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back up into the flats and all the ponds back
up in there, and that's where they spawn out at
least a large portion of them. Going on that knowledge,
they went late season to capitalize on the trout eating
up the salmon eggs that kind of get away and
basically the nice and plumped, good sized, healthy fish. This
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was approximately eight years ago, so Stewart invites his buddy
Cliff still lived in Idaho. Basically was like, I'm all
for it. Loved to fly fish and all that. So
they make their arrangements and whatnot, and they used a
service out of Anchorage to fly them in. He reserved
the cabin there, reserved it for five days. They were
going to just get dropped in, do their thing, fish
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and have a great time. They get there. It took
a few extra days to get there, which only leaves
them three days for their cabin reservation left. So he's
doing his thing to change the itinerary for the cabin rental,
and fortunately he was able to get it wop to
accommodate for the two weather days that they didn't account for,
which it's Alaska weather rules all. I don't care what
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anyone says unless you're going by road, and even then
you take the chances. But they get there. They were
a little bummed out and tired from half of that
two day layover and anchorage and waiting for a weather break.
So they were like constantly on alert. They didn't want
to go too far from the hotel and not be
ready to take off from they could, And so they
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kind of wore themselves out a little bit in Anchorage
waiting to get out.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Now.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
Stuart said that one of his friends that lives in
Anchorage in loan of a twelve gear shotgun, plenty of
bear ammo buckshot slugs, whatever, also a nine millimeter pistol,
just because they were going to be on the Salmon
River in the fall. Bears are a serious issue if
you don't take it seriously. They write books about the shit.
So if you're unaware, you do some google searches about
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para tax in Alaska, just he'd warning. So they get there,
Stewart said, the first couple of days they were just
really groggy, trying to get moving motivated. They were socked
in perfect fishing weather. They got their lines wet the
first couple of days, but only for about an hour
or so, trying to gain the energy. They were just
both zapped, he said. The night of that second day,
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it was going into dusk. They were planning on going
back out. They get back down. You got to understand,
the brush was a bitch, a lot of willows and
alders and stuff, banking right along the river bank. There
was one spot where it was shallower. It's where they
could get across. They maneuver their way down and there's
a place where they got chest waiters. So they crossed
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there and they're just going up around what is essentially
it's not necessarily an island. It's where the river kind
of branches and just to split there right near the
cabin at heading west or whenever it kind of splits,
wraps around and then continues on down. Then Burt Creek
is directly north of them. They got across this little
shallower area just above the knees, and they were going
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to wrap up and get on top of this. We'll
call it an island for the sake of explanation. So
they get up on there and they can still see
the cabin right over there. They hear this shriek. The
shreek was very loud, very powerful, and they couldn't tell
where the hell it came from because it sounded like
it was all around them. So they both look at
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each other. Cliff was like, what is that? Stuart was like,
I don't know, but maybe we should just do this
lower branch here and just fish that and clipsy. No,
absolutely not. I'm going back inside. What the hell that is?
You need to come inside too?
Speaker 1 (07:02):
What is that?
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Cliff had worked basically not a biologist, but helping in
the field for a biology team years ago, and had
time around bears, brown bears, grizzlies, black bears, and stuff,
and so he wasn't a total novice when it came
to natural sounds. He deemed that non natural. I totally
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understand from what Stewart explained that shriek was ear piercing
and powerful. He said it sounded like they were in
an amphitheater because it was everywhere. They couldn't pinpoint a
direction the amount of unease, He said, immediately all the
hair stood up on their arms and necks and stuff,
and they just quietly maneuvered on back, followed their back trail,
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crossed back across and went to the cabin. He said.
The rest of that night was fairly uneventful. They heard
one more weird noise they couldn't quite make out because
they were in the cabin and it was at a distance,
and it sounded like it was coming from Burke Cabin Creek. Again.
He said, it was just a loud noise he couldn't
tell if it was a roar, a moan, a scream
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or whatever. It was just a loud enough noise that
got their attention and they couldn't quite make it out
because of distance. So on eventful night they got up
the next morning in the wee hours, rediscussed that weird
shriek sound, and they decided okay. Cliff was like, give
me one of the guns, and so Stuart said, here,
take the shotgun. You like to take the lead anyway,
you have the shotgun in case of bear, I'll carry
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the nine millimeter. And so they got their plan of action.
They're going to continue and go and do what they
were going to do the night before. Stuart said, when
they crossed the river at it shallowest point there, he said,
when they got back up onto what we'll call the island,
it's basically just where the river split around. They get
up on this island and they're wrapping around going north
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up towards the Burke Creek side. Fishing the whole time.
I caught a couple kind of lackluster but fun. Nonetheless,
Cliff got a little ahead of Stuart yells out, hey,
don't get too far ahead of me, so Cliff stops.
Cliff was casting away doing his thing as Stuart was
catching up, basically casting as well, and the water is
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crystal clear. They could see down at the bottom. They
could see where the fish were, where the overhangs, word,
where to cast let it drift by to draw up
the trout. He said it was a perfect time of
morning because it was just as the sun was about
to come up. You could see the sun hitting the
tops of their about eleven twelve hundred foot little basically
mounds mountains if you will. I don't think they're tall
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enough for mountains, but these big hills like buttes. He said.
He was just sitting there and he's like, where is
the songbirds? It's in that moment it dawned on him
how freaking quiet it was. So he starts kind of
assessing the situation, looking around, checking his six and all
that there must be a bear around. So he gets
Cliff's attention, gets closer to Cliff and says, hey, I
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think there's a bear around. With the sun coming up,
there should be some songbirds or something, some kind of
sound of wildlife. Cliff's sitting there listening. He's, yeah, you're right.
So they take a moment. Cliff was changing out his
gear anyway, as far as his lore, He's going to
throw in a bloodworm, because that's what Stuart had been
having luck with from what he was saying. So as
he's tying on this bloodworm, they're basically just a little
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below the mouth of Burt Cavin Creek. They could see
up in a little ways, but not very much from
their vantage point because they were just off which would
be to the west, a bit right the west of
where the creek meets the Nooshigak, which kind of goes
up this long, kind of shallow valley. So as they're
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at that point, they hear that shriek again. It's coming
from up Burt Cavin Creek. They both sit there. There's
that noise again. What the hell is that? They had
no clue, so they just hunkered down where they were
listening looking for movement. Stuart said that at one point
Cliff stood up and was taken off his backpack and
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he had his back towards the creek that Stuart was
looking up because where they were sitting at the edge,
he stood up and turned around to take the pack off,
set it down and turn around and lean back against it.
But at that point where he was standing up, Stuart
saw a movement up the creek. He said, it looked
like the big old black bear going out of the
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creek into the brush. It was real fast. So he
got Cliff's attention, said, hey, a big black bear just
cut up into the brush over there. That must have
been what was making that noise. But it was like,
bears don't make those kind of noises. They can make
some god awful noises, but that's a shriek like a woman.
It made no sense. He said, hey, I know what
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I saw. Cliff was like, it was a black bear.
He goes, yeah, it was freaking huge. So they had
this little debate about how big black bears can get
and so on. Right now, both their attention is up
burn Cavin Creek and as they're looking they notice a
dark form. It was like they would see it right there,
then a moment later it'd be a little closer. But
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the form they were seeing was not bear like, it
was man like. With the way the sun was coming
from the east, this thing was in the shade of
this about twelve hundred foot Mound mountain or whatever just
to their east. It was right there, so the way
the sun direction was coming, this thing was in shadow.
It was silhouetted in the alders and the willows, and
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he said this thing was incrementally getting closer. Every couple
of moments. It was a little bit closer, and they
were like, that is not bair behavior. It was really weird.
They felt like it was looking at him, dropping out
of you, coming back into view, looking at him again,
dropping out of you. Predatory type things. So Stuart said,
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that's when he got real uneasy. Cliff was like, maybe
we should move down a little ways. Give us room.
It's not a black bear, give us room to react
if it's something with ill in tens. They both agreed,
and they moved a little further to the west on
that upper channel where Burke Creek comes into it. Stewart
said they got about another maybe one hundred and fifty
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feet ish because they were moving slow and quiet and
keeping an eye right so as they do that. He
said they got about one hundred and fifty feet before
this thing came out almost at the mouth of the creek.
He said, it couldn't have been more than maybe fifty
sixty feet back from the mouth of the creek where
it meets the nous gag comes out and it's standing
and it's still in the shadow of that butte, that mountain.
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He said it stood there. He said it was the
darkest thing he had ever seen. It was darker than
pitch black. I could relate, I've seen similar, but he said,
the thing, if it was, it came out and was
standing in the creek and was looking right in their
direction and started swaying back and forth faster and faster,
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and it was all happening real quick. So Cliff was like, hey,
that dude needs to calm down again. Bigfoot Harry Manner.
None of that was popping in their head at the
moment because from their vantage point the way things were,
they weren't able to grasp exactly how big this thing
was just yet they're seeing it, and when it came
into the creek. He wasn't sure exactly how deep the
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creek was there where it came out into, but they
were seeing basically from just above the knees out of
the water and up so to them it was a
large dude, but it wasn't registering exactly the overall size
of this thing. As they were staring Cliff kind of
had the shotgun and was like, let's get a guy's attention.
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So they start collaring, Hey, we're over here, we're over here,
and this thing never stopped looking at him, was swaying
back and forth faster and faster, and then it drops down,
which when it dropped down into basically all fours, it
was just head and shoulders they could see above the water,
and it leapt back out in the direction it came
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out from, which he said it was so bizarre how
it just dropped down and then jumped out and.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see. We'll be
right back after these messages.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
I asked him, do you know how deep it is there?
And he wasn't aware. They didn't go and measure or nothing,
but this thing leapt out back into the brush, and
then they saw a brush moving in noises and weird
growls and sounds being made as this sinc moved the
way back up to Bert Capitol Creek. So they were like, okay,
now is the time, because that's obviously not a dude.
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A sane man doesn't act that way. So basically they
had to backtrack the way they came because again. They
were breaking trail outside of some small game trails, which
is not easy to do. Break and trail womb be
some serious pain in the ass. So they start backtracking
and once they're straight on again with burt Cabin creek,
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this thing pops out again splash, and at that point
they both stop and they're watching because all of a
sudden they hear the splash. It's coming down the creek
towards them right Adam Cliff freaks out stands up because
initially when they heard the splash, they both hunker down
a little bit, got a little lower, and Cliff stands
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up with the shotgun and aims at that direction, and
this thing Jinn give a fly in rat's ass, kept
coming at them.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Again.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
It's at a distance, it's not like it's right on
them or anything, but Cliff took data is enough to
pop around off right, so as he lets the shot go.
It startled the hell out of Stewart because he wasn't
expecting it because he was so transfixed on this thing
coming down the creek. The gunshot goes off, and all
of a sudden, this thing beers off into the brush
again like it had where it came from Originally the
(16:49):
Stewards like, what the hell, what did you shoot it?
Did you? And he goes to the cliff, was like, no,
it was a warning shot. So again, the thing is
in the brush making noise. They can see the brush moving,
they can hear these weird noise growls, whoops, some clicking
and popping and some other stuff, and they were like,
what the hell. So they continued on retreating while this
(17:10):
thing wasn't actively watching them. They scooted around. They made
it back to the cabin, which in the big sem
of things is just right over there. Yeah, it's not
that far, not far enough from my liking. So they
get back to the cabin and this is just after
Suna on day three. They're assessing what do we do
with that? Again, they weren't registering harry Man, but there
(17:33):
was talk of a feral human. Right, is that some
hunter that got lost now is a maniac or something?
Maybe he killed black bear and has a black bear
outfit on or whatever. And so they're discussing all these
things because it had to a bit large, the way
it was moving in the creek, the way it leapt
out of the creek, all these movements weren't like someone
(17:56):
in a suit or a fur garment get up. And
eventually the conversation makes it around to Bigfoot, and they're
both like, really a sasquatch, really, because again, it wasn't
really in their wheelhouse. So they start discussing, all there's
stupid TV shows about it and this, and that maybe
there's some truth to some of it. They couldn't discount
(18:17):
it now after what they've just seen. So they're debating
whether or not throw human sasquatch whatever. And as they're
having this discussion, they had the door open on the
cabin and every once in a while Cliff would go
over to the door and look out it. He had
it open to hear, but they got the sounds of
the river, which wasn't overly loud or anything, the wind
blowing every once in a while, rustling of the leaves,
(18:39):
and everything like that. As he's making his way back
up to the door for third or fourth time during
this whole conversation period as what's going on into just
before noon, they hear that shriek again, but this time
as Cliff gets to the door to look out it,
the shriek is somewhere right around them. Right. It is loud.
(19:02):
Stuart said, it was so loud it startled him out
of where he was sitting at this little bench seat things.
He jumped up, grabbed the shotgun because it was sitting
right next to him, grabbed the shotgun. It comes over
by the door. Cliff is looking around. I found a
comical that Stuart grabs his shotgun, is going to the door.
Cliff turns goes right past him, looking for the same shotgun. Right.
(19:22):
Stuart's at the door and he's looking around and he
was like, did you hear where that came from? And
Cliff said, straight out, straight outside the door, the way
this little trail is down to the river. There was
nothing there to see, and so they didn't know where
it was coming from. And then they heard it again,
and then it was obvious it was somewhere behind the
cabin and they were hearing the echo as it hit
(19:44):
that little river rush area, and so they were like,
oh shit. So Stuart goes out the door, goes around
to the side and is looking back towards behind the cabin,
and sure enough, about seventy feet or so off the
back of this cabin through the brush, he sees this
dark movement and it's going back and forth. But as
(20:05):
it's going back and forth, it's getting closer. So he
retreats inside and tells clip, hey, it's coming this way.
Inside the little cabin door off to the right hand
side as you step in is these little seats, little window.
Then you got the woodstove over here on the left
hand side, and then a small little countertop area and
a loft up top, small window in the loft, small
(20:28):
window behind the sink, and the just the one window
off to the right, and then the woodstove. He comes inside,
cliffs right there. They shut the door and they both
look out that window on the right hand side. I guess, yeah,
if you're looking at the cabin from the front, it
would be to the right. If you're in it, it's
to the left facing the door whatever. So they start
looking out that as they're standing there door. It's holding
(20:50):
the shotgun and they're looking and they could see this
darkness coming closer and closer out of the brush and
it pops up. It stands up almost like dead, even
with that window, because as it was moving closer, they
said that it looked like it would peek up and
drop back down like it was doing before up on
(21:11):
the Burt Cabin creek. So as soon as it got
in parallel with the cabin at the window, it stood up.
He said. That's when they understood its overall size. He said,
this thing was at least eleven foot tall, four and
a half foot wide at the shoulders. Not body builder build,
but real close to it. Very muscular, very powerful looking.
(21:33):
And it was pitch black. I was asking about features
or anything, he said, it was pitch black. And with
the way the sun was rising from the east, it
was still in the shadow of the cabin right, so
they couldn't make out anything other than the slightest glint
of light in the black eyes. That's all they could
make out. It wasn't like eyeshine or nothing, but just
the life in the eyes, so to speak. And it
(21:55):
stood there and started swaying again, faster and faster and faster,
and they're just in shock watching this. All of a
sudden it drops down and tears off the direction of
burn Cabin creek. He said. When it took off fast,
it was working itself up back and forth, faster, faster,
and then pay them it was gone. Startled them how
(22:15):
quickly it took off. Stuart said, they looked at each other.
Cliff was like, holy shit, runs over to the door
and opens it. And then when they open it and look,
some of their view was obscured by the brush, but
they seen the brush and this periodically, this dark mass
as it tore across the river back up onto that
island thing and gone in the direction of burn Cabin Creek.
(22:37):
They were like, holy shit, what the hell do we
do with that?
Speaker 4 (22:40):
Now?
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Granted, you gotta understand, this is halfway through day three
of a five day not counting a god forbid weather
comes in and messes everything up. So they spend the
rest of that day very close to the cabin. Obviously
they didn't want to go out. I totally understand they
were having discussions about Bigfoot. Do they remember hearing anything
(23:02):
on how to deal with them, what to do? Where
are they going to go? They got flown in where
are they going to go? So they play it safe.
Morning day four, they wake up and they hear this
hillacious scream coming way up cabin Creek. He said it
had to have been miles away. It was still loud,
(23:23):
but you could tell it was at it a good distance.
So they heard that first thing at sunrise because they'd
been wanting to fish, but they were too scared to
leave the cabin. They didn't know what the hell this
thing was going to do or whatever because of how
it was acting. And so they decide, let's just go
right down here, right in front of the cabin, do
some fishing. We'll keep an eye out. We'll have enough view.
(23:43):
If we have to retreat, we could shoot. We can
get back to the cabin, they both agreed. Now, Cliff
he had at one of these original version digital cameras.
It was like four megapixel or something. He was trying
to get that into operation. But all the batteries he
brought up until that morning, somewhere before the original shriek,
(24:06):
it was able to take pictures this mine if the
batteries were all functional. They were all brand new, and
he kept trying to get this camera to turn on.
It wouldn't turn on. The batteries seemed to be dead.
All this stuff, so he couldn't even take pictures of
the fish they catch without that working. He was a
little frustrated. But they make it down to the river
and they do some fishing. As they're fishing, they were
(24:28):
not enjoying themselves. They were constantly looking around any kind
of noise in the brush, any wind, breeze, blue leaves
and rustled. Immediately they were overwhelmed by it. Stuart said
he maybe cast about four separate times he had gotten
a couple nibbles, which normally would totally psych him out.
He'd be fishing until he caught one. He'd do it
(24:50):
for hours. As they were sitting there, they heard that
shriek again. They'd sound like his way up bird Cabin creek,
he said. When they heard that, Cliff just immediately looked
at him, shook his head and pointed like, let's go
back to the cabin. So they did. Now this is
day four, this is in the morning. Stuart and Cliff
(25:10):
were sitting there debating, shit, this is a bust. We
can't even enjoy our fishing. What the hell is this thing?
And their debate goes back again to have you heard anything?
Whatever you see how fast it moved and going over
all these things, different behaviors of bobbing up and going down,
you getting closer all of it, right running down the creek,
splashing down on all fours, leaping out all of it,
(25:32):
which I could totally understand. Unfortunately for them, they're stuck
where they're at. The plant's supposed to be coming the
next day, so they spend that night mellow inside, opening
the door every once in a while. Cliff was a smoker,
so he would step outside. He would smoke a cigarette,
look around, jokingly say hopefully it's not behind us. Something
(25:53):
like that, just trying to break the nervous tension. So
the evening of day four, they just got done eating.
They had a bucket of soapy water that they would
put the dishes into it, rinse it off and get
the smell off it because of bears and whatnot. Right,
they scrubbed off the dishes, they dipped it into some
hot water. Now this is just river water. They had
(26:13):
limited supplies that they flew in with. They got done
doing dishes, basically right their frying pan. They had some
fried potatoes and some bacon or something, so that was
soaking a little longer in that soap bucket, and they
set it outside. This is still about an hour before dusk.
So they got a soapy bucket with the frying pan
still in it. The other bucket that had the hot
(26:35):
water they had dumped out and was turned upside down
just to sit while the other one because they were
going to reheat some water to rinse off the skill
it they had that out there. Clip was smoking a cigarette,
sitting on one of the three steps. The buckets were
immediately off to his right hand side, just down at
the bottom of the steps, off about maybe less than
(26:56):
ten feet. As he's sitting there smoking a cigarette, sing
walks from just out of nowhere, walks right out, knocks
over the bucket, looks down at it, it looks back
at Cliff. Cliff said the face was very dark, It
looked very greasy, a lot of wrinkles. It looked like
a cave man, nothing like an ape, big broad, fat,
(27:19):
bulbous kind of nose, eyes deep and sunk in, very
heavy brow ridge. The eyes just appeared to be black.
He's sitting there, the thing is like not even ten
feet away from him, and just walks on down the trail,
just looks back at him. He said he was freaking out,
but he didn't sense any outward aggression. Knocking over the
(27:42):
bucket and looking down at it was more of what
is this kind of a curiosity? Nothing for me, and
just looked back at him and then just walked on
down the trail and at that point he's in shock.
What the hell am I see? And all of a sudden,
Stuart is behind him. Stewart said, when he was sitting there,
the door was open, and he had his back against
the wall on the little small bench with the table
(28:04):
in the window. The woodstove is right in front of him.
He's looking out periodically because he was about to complain
to Cliff to shut the door because his cigarette smoke
was coming back in the door. He said, he was
just standing up to go and complain and give Cliff
a hard time when he saw this incumbent of you
walking down the trail and Cliff was just pushing back
(28:24):
against the steps or whatever. Stewart said, he immediately grabbed
that nine millimeter handgun and got behind Cliff at the
door and fired shots into the air, which scared the
shit out of Cliff. At the same time, because he
wasn't expect he was in shock of what was just
happening also on them. It's chaotic a minute, the thing
takes off, pum gone, just like it had done the
(28:45):
day before or whatever. It had rushed. After it swayed,
it was gone. It was moving so fast. So they're
freaked out. They retreat back inside. Cliff as, all the
hell are you doing? He scared shit out of me,
And so they're going back and forth. I'm not trying
to laugh at that's real freaky shit. And just the
scene I see in my mind is this only shit
I could imagine. It was not fun. So they're inside
(29:07):
the arguing back and forth. What the hell I didn't
even hear it. I didn't even hear it was just there.
The there was like, calm down to what happened. He goes,
I'm sitting there smoking a cigarette. Buckets are right there.
All of a sudden, this thing walks out, kicks the
one bucket over, looks down at it, turns, looks at me.
You came out, but then split second later firing damn gun.
Between the two of them, they were guessing it was
(29:30):
at least twelve foot tall, about the same four and
a half foot wide, because they obviously had a different
perspective of it at that point. Said, after it ran
off and they were inside, it got dead Kwai going
into dusk right, So at dusk, Cliff wanted to have
one more cigarette before it got dark because he wasn't
going to go outside, and he wasn't going to smoke
inside because Steward didn't. So he's standing there at the door,
(29:53):
half out it, half in it, holding on to the
door knob, smoking a cigarette real fast. I could understand
one hundred percent it.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see we'll be
right back.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
After these messages, they got in their lantern fired up
and it was on the little I guess you'd call
it a kitchen counter area, a real small counter. It
was just sitting there. Cliff was like, yeah, I'm not
seeing any movement, had the nine millimeter in his pocket.
He smoked a cigarette as fast as he could and
(30:25):
he leaned down put it out on the steps. It
had been drizzling a little bit as it was going
on into the evening. What they were worried about is
with this drizzling, being socked in and a plane not
making it the next day, so they were anxious about that.
They sit down after Cliff has this cigarette and they're
discussing should we put something in front of the door,
(30:46):
all that kind of stuff. There was the dead bolt thing,
but the thing of it is a lot of these
cabins are left unlocked. They're not locked up. Their survival cabins.
You can reserve them, but you can also make use
of them in a survival situation, no harm, no fense.
What ended up doing is there was a piece of
someone that put up some trim on half of this
door on the inside, and the door opened pulling in.
(31:09):
So what he did was they had about four or
five different types of knives. What he did was he
stuck the knives in between the trim and the door
to make another type of a lock. He did it
spaced him out. It had four or five of them
and he went top to bottom evenly spaced. So that
was their barricade, which, hey, do what you gotta do.
(31:31):
My cousin was wanting to use a single sixteen penny nail.
It was quiet, nothing going on. They get ready to
crash out. Cliff didn't want to be stuck up in
the loft. He wanted to be able to maneuver. Which
I would rather be in the loft and have the
high grounds. But anyway, so Stewart's like, I'll crash up
there or whatever. Cliff was down with the twelve gage
(31:53):
down on the lower portion and Stuart went up to
the end of the loft. Stuart said that just as
they were falling asleep, there was out damn something bang
shook the whole cabin. Immediately, Cliff was like screaming out nothing.
Didn't hear anything else. It got quiet again. Neither one
of them slept the rest of the night. However, come
(32:14):
morning comes sunrise, it was a little foggy and they
were worried. Then the fog dissipated rather quickly to a
beautiful morning songbirds. Everything was as it should have been
the whole time, and so they're both out looking around.
They're tending to the skillet stuff that was still needed
to be finished up. As they're discussing, they both walked
(32:35):
together down to the river, their songbirds and stuff. So
the energy was totally different, right, They didn't feel as nervous.
They get down there, they get things washed up because
Stewart was covering Cliff with the shotgun for obvious reasons.
As they're getting back up to the cabin, they hear
their plane off in the distance. They're like, oh shit,
there must be a system moving and he's coming a
(32:56):
little early. So they gather up all their stuff. They
had to walk down a little ways to where the
plane had to land because of wind direction and all that.
So they get it all figured out. Cliff is holding
one of the ropes from the strut on one of
the wings of the plane. They didn't want to divulge
which service they used out of anchorage, which is there's
(33:17):
only so many. But anyway, the person that was there
to pick them up was like, yeah, there's some severe
stores moving in. We were supposed to come later on
this afternoon, but I wanted to take the window so
we didn't miss a window and you guys be stuck
here a week. They were thankful. As they're getting everything
loaded up, the energy changed again. Right as the pilot
(33:38):
was in the back of the plane adjusting for weight
and their gear, he comes out. Stuart was attempting to
hand him some of the fly fishing poles, right because
they each had a few of them different lengths and
whatever weights or whatever he was handing up to him.
They heard the shriek coming from across the river. Now
they're just west of that island, right where Burnt Creek
(34:03):
is north of They were just west of that. They
heard it coming from that direction and the pilot was like,
what the hell is that? And they both were like,
we don't know. And then Cliff chimes and we know,
but we don't know. It looked like a huge cave man.
It was massive, and the guy chuckle. He goes really
and it was like, you mean bigfoot. They both kind
(34:24):
of looked at him and was like, yeah, exactly like that.
And so the pilot was taken it back and was like,
I've seen some pretty strange stuff flying around. Shared a
little bit of seeing something running across a meadow or
this and that, but because of the high difference being
up in the plane and the perspective, he just chalked
it up as maybe a moose or something that he's
just getting a weird look at. So they're having this
(34:46):
brief discussion and they hear the shriek again. This time
it is a lot closer. It sounded like it was
coming from that island. So the pilot was like, is
this everything here? Tipit Stuart were like yeah, he goes yeah,
let's get moving here. They get it finished up, loaded up,
and they had to taxi down, turn around and take
off and they're taking off going towards that island and
as they'd gotten into the air. They were only a
(35:08):
few hundred feet and gaining altitude as they're climbing out.
As they started to bank and turn towards the I
guess it would be southeast, gaining altitude, climbing into the wind.
The pilot noticed this thing down on that island right,
and so as he's climbing, he decides he levels off
at about five hundred feet and circles back and comes
(35:30):
back and comes at a little lower altitude, a couple
hundred feet off the ground, but buzzing that island. And
he was turning to the left a little bit, Stuart said.
As they were going he was saying, yeah, it was
pointing out some of the events, and the pilot goes,
there it is. They see it in the water right
near where they had just been banked at the river
loading up. Stuart said, from the vantage point of being
(35:53):
in the air, they could see this thing. It was
still massive, but at a couple hundred feet up in
the air the perspective looking down, they couldn't tell its
overall height. Basically, Steward's explaining that thing is actually really massive.
The pilot goes, yeah, I could tell, but it is
literally in the water at the river bank where they'd
just taken off from. They couldn't tell what it was doing,
(36:15):
but it was there, almost like inspecting. The pilot checks himself,
catches the way, gains some more altitude, comes back, and
flies back by at a much higher altitude. It was
no longer there. When they get back to Anchorage, the
service hub is right there at Lake could right. They
get over there, they're getting unloaded. They have a little van,
a courtesy vandit to get them to their hotel or
(36:37):
airport or whatever. They had a night in Anchorage, and
so they were telling the driver, yeah, we're going over here,
and the pilot's talking to their shuttle driver and saying, yeah,
damn bigfoot out there. They all just nervously chuckle, but
it wasn't expanded upon. He just said we saw a bigfoot,
and shuttle drivers like okay, like whatever. It seemed like
(37:01):
it was a common thing, and he goes, not really,
it just the way the pilot acknowledged it, Hey, we
saw a bigfoot. We didn't really say much as we
was nervously chuckled, yeah we did. And the shuttle driver
was like okay, almost like it wasn't given the level
of importance like it deserved. But hey, what do you do.
I want to thank Stuart and Cliff for reaching out.
(37:24):
He had been pondering reaching out for the last couple
of years and hesitated, and finally he did. I want
to thank them both. There's other encounters. I've been trying
to get a hold of some people because of the
process I do. I talk to people several times just
to make sure I have all the finer details.
Speaker 4 (37:39):
Now.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
One of them says they're willing to be recorded, which
is great. Hey. I give each and every person the
opportunity to be recorded, and a lot of times, when
push comes to shove, they're like, I'll let you do it.
You do a good job. Hey, we'll see Thank you
to Cliff and Stewart.
Speaker 4 (37:55):
We'll catch you guys on the next one.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
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