September 7, 2025 • 42 mins
In this episode, Fred shares two dramatic encounters involving mysterious creatures in Alaska. The first story, recounted by a carpenter named Travis, details his harrowing experience while repairing a remote cabin at Devil's Lake in 2004, where he faced unnerving noises and a powerful force seemingly trying to break in.
The second account is from Samuel and his son, who experienced a frightening close call with what they believed to be 'Harry Man' or Bigfoot during a hunting trip in the Yukon Kuskokwim Delta. Both stories emphasize the suspense and fear of encountering unknown, possibly dangerous creatures in the Alaskan wilderness.
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00:00 Introduction and Setting the Scene 00:09 Travis's Cabin Repair Job 04:05 First Night's Encounter 05:28 The Mysterious Screams 07:04 A Night of Fear and Uncertainty 15:02 Morning After the Encounter 17:06 Preparing for the Final Night 20:23 A Calm Before the Storm 20:56 A Nonchalant Pilot's Bigfoot Tale 21:22 Samuel and Junior's Hunting Trip 23:40 The Encounter Begins 24:53 A Terrifying Realization 27:51 The Escape 36:06 Reflecting on the Experience
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The second account is from Samuel and his son, who experienced a frightening close call with what they believed to be 'Harry Man' or Bigfoot during a hunting trip in the Yukon Kuskokwim Delta. Both stories emphasize the suspense and fear of encountering unknown, possibly dangerous creatures in the Alaskan wilderness.
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00:00 Introduction and Setting the Scene 00:09 Travis's Cabin Repair Job 04:05 First Night's Encounter 05:28 The Mysterious Screams 07:04 A Night of Fear and Uncertainty 15:02 Morning After the Encounter 17:06 Preparing for the Final Night 20:23 A Calm Before the Storm 20:56 A Nonchalant Pilot's Bigfoot Tale 21:22 Samuel and Junior's Hunting Trip 23:40 The Encounter Begins 24:53 A Terrifying Realization 27:51 The Escape 36:06 Reflecting on the Experience
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now one of your pudding. I got a string going
on here, something just cause my dog. Something killed your dog,
my dog. We're flying through the air over the tree.
I don't know how it did it, Okay, Damn, I'm
really confused. All I saw was my dog coming over
the fence and he was dead. And once you hit
the ground like, I didn't see any cars. All I
saw was my dog coming over the fence. Sat what
(00:38):
are you putting? We got some wonder or something crawling
around out here? Did you see what it was? Or
was it was? Standing enough? I'm out here looking through
the window now and I don't see anything. I don't
want to go outside. Jesus quice, you better New York. Hello,
(01:03):
hit somebody out here?
Speaker 2 (01:05):
What went on out there?
Speaker 1 (01:06):
I thought of a bit just about sixty forty nine.
I don't know easy him out there? Yeah, I'm right head.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Oh hey, greetings, thanks for joining me. Todavis breadon Alaska.
You might hear rain hitting the windshield. I'm doing this
on the fly. Got a lot of background stuff going on.
What I wanted to share with you today comes from Travis.
Travis as a carpenter. He actually reached out a while
back I worked with the guy years ago, back when
I was an apprentice, but he had somehow stumbled across
(01:32):
me on YouTube and was like, wait, I know that guy.
He reached out and wanted to share something with me
that happened back in two thousand and four. He just
thought it was strange. He used to work with me,
and all of a sudden he sees me doing this.
Travis was contracted to do some work on a cabin
at Devil's Lake. There's many places called Devil's Lake, appropriate title,
(01:54):
I think, so he was hired on for a four
day contract. This gentleman that hired him had been having
trouble since he built the place with what he perceived
as bear's breaking in during the off season when he
wasn't there. He would have to fix the damages and
do the repairs every year. It's just something that this
(02:17):
cabin owner had just taken as par for the course.
It's the wilds of Alaska. Bears break in whatever he
gets blown in. I don't like the thought of being
dropped off somewhere for work, but I've been there, done that,
so Travis thought nothing of it. He had all the
extra materials that the guy had flown in a couple
weeks prior, saw what was there, made a little list,
(02:38):
because obviously he's not new to it, had a list
of stuff, took pictures of the damage for Travis to
look at and possess. Okay, we'll get this for this
and that for that whatever. He had a bunch of
knotty pine for the interior wall where it was damaged,
a new door and a new window that he was
replacing along with all the other minor materials. Two by
(02:59):
fours and four by fours. Travis has flown in the morning.
It was a real tight weather window on him getting
in there. He got everything offloaded. The pilot that dropped
him off said I'm gonna be back in four days
whether dependant. He understood off the pilot does. So Travis
is there and he drags all the materials up to
(03:19):
the cabin. He decided, you know what, he had a
little pop tent and he decided he was just going
to pop that tin up inside the cabin. The damage
at the door, he said, was extensive. He basically had
to reframe in and do some other stuff to even
attach the new door right. He said, it was crazy.
It looked like the door just imploded into the cabin
(03:41):
kind of deal with serious force because all the hinges
and everything that was attached, even the dead bolt, all
that was forced in and everything was splintered out behind it, right,
so it was like forced in. The door was in
three separate pieces, and it was solid wood. That particular
door he was replacing with another custom solid door, branches, thick,
(04:03):
solid not a hollow door of any kind. It was
all custom made by a woodsmith in a shop specifically
for this doorway. But the one previous that he saw
was literally broken into three pieces. It just amazed him
at the force it would take to do that, but
yet there it was, right, So it gets on the
job of just getting things squared away because the owner
(04:26):
had been in a couple weeks before and did a
bunch of the cleaning already, so it was basically outside
of that broken door being inside there the obvious mess
of the damage. The floor was cleaned up, and all
the excess garbs and all that kind of stuff was
already gone out of his way. We set up his
pop tent inside the cabin to stay out of the wind,
(04:46):
have another roof over him. Right, So first day he did,
he was taking off old stuff and doing his thing
and basically refurbishing what he could to reuse and getting
it ready. He got a bunch of the framing into
the new door done. So what he decided to do
that first night is basically set the door in place,
(05:09):
put in a screw in each one of the different
hinges to at least be able to shut it, and
the next day he planned on finishing up what he
had to do. So he said, just as it was
getting into dusk, which this was towards end of May
two thousand and four, it was still getting dark at
land of the midnight sun, but it wasn't full on craziness.
(05:29):
So he gets all that tended too, gets the door
in place, and he said he stepped out on the deck.
There was a little small, little weber grill that he
was cooking on. He got everything gone and was cooking
up his dinner. And he said he was going in
and out from his supplies inside and coming out and
tending to the meat he had cooking on the grill.
(05:50):
He said, it was getting on in the dusk and
he was really tired, so he was trying to get
it done so he can complete the contract. Basically with
the limited time he had. He said, the time he
was coming out to take the food off of the
grill and he was putting it on his plate, he said,
on the other side of the lake, he heard a scream.
It concerned him that a woman was out there along screaming.
(06:14):
He was like, oh shit, what the hell is this.
He was very well armed, three thirty eight win mag rifle,
twelve gaate shotgun, and a four to fifty four, so
he was loaded for bear, literally loaded for bear. So
he decided, okay, since there's a lot of brush, I'll
bring the shotgun and the four fifty four and I'm
gonna go help this woman. Because again, up until that point,
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harry Man, Bigfoot, all that shit wasn't even on this
guy's radar. So Travis, he takes off and he follows
the game trail along the lake, and he said he
got about half the distance around, which would have been
a little over half a mile, right along the edge
of the lake. As he's going off to the other end,
and he said he was overcome by the overwhelming sense
that he was being watched in a very negative way.
(06:59):
And he said, he's stopped and he hunkered down low
and was trying to look around because the way the
brush was, he couldn't really see too much. Very narrow
game trail. He's pushing through the brush and he felt
real nervous about that. But where he got that feeling.
He was in a little bit of an open area
and off to his right was the lake with a
little bit of brush in between him and the lake.
(07:19):
So he said it was about twenty five feet to
the edge of the lake, and then up to his
left it sloped up up towards the mountains. That's why
he stood there, and he said he kept feeling sick
to his stomach. This is bad, and so he decided
to start yelling out, hey, do you need help? And
so he starts yelling this over and over. He said
he finally got sick of it. He wasn't hearing a response.
(07:41):
Then he heard the scream again, and the scream came
from behind him. He said he wasn't sure how far
behind him, but it was between him in the cabin.
And he said that's when he knew it wasn't no
woman because the second scream he heard was very low
but very high pitched at the same time, and he
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knew all was not good. He said he was highly intimidated.
He said fear, yes, but he felt he was able
to turn that fear into focus, and I'm getting back
to some relative safety. So he starts going back. He
said it took everything in him to go that direction
where this scream came from, because it freaked him out.
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But he didn't want to be where he was. He
wanted to get back to that cabin. He said. He
was pushing back through the brush and he got about
one hundred yards or so from where he initially heard
that second scream, and he started hearing this huffing sound.
He said it was probably about sixty ish feet away,
up in the brush off to his right hand side,
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which would be sloping up the mountain next to him.
And he said in the thickness of the brush that
he was standing in, he could not make it out.
And when he was hearing the huffing, he stopped and
was really listening really hard, and he said it was
really deep breathing. It wasn't really a huff, It was
real deep breathing. And he said that was very concerning
(09:08):
because he didn't know what the hell it was. He's
been around bears before. It wasn't some bear, And he said,
as he was sitting there trying to listen, he decided,
do you know what, screw this. I don't need to listen.
I need to continue on about my way. So he
continues on, and he said he made it about another
fifty feet and then it opened up into a little
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bit of a clearing, a little more clear area. Where
it opened up to was an avalanche shoot that came down.
He said. It was about one hundred yards wide. All
the trees had been knocked down from the years before
avalanche and stuff, and there was wooded debris and stumps
and just avalanche to breathe. And so he felt in
the open he was a little more calm down because
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he had a better line of sight. He said, as
he stood there, he went up to about the middle
there was about one hundred yards wide. So he went
about fifty yards into the opening where it's more clear,
and started looking around, panning around. Now, understand, he started
this at dusk. Okay, so now it's getting on later
into dusk to where it's getting dark enough to where
(10:16):
you can't fully see now land of the midnight sun. Understand,
the sky is light. The terrain is dark. It's only
getting darker at this time of year. He said. He
stood there and he was looking up slope in the
direction at an angle, in the direction that he had
heard the huffing just moments before, and he heard movement.
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And then when he would focus on that movement, it'd
go quiet, and then he would be listening and then
he would hear movement again. It focus in that direction
with the shotgun, and then the movement would stop, and
he was like, I couldn't see anything. At first. He
was like, I didn't want to turn my back. I
felt like I shouldn't turn my back. I should stay
focused on what I'm doing. So, he said, at that moment,
(11:02):
he decided, you know what, I had a pocket full
of shotgun shells, slugs and buckshot, a fully loaded shotgun,
and a four fifty four. I was gonna let some
rounds fly. Now, unless you've been under those high stress
incidences where you feel it's necessary to pop some warning
shots and make some noise of your own, then don't
(11:23):
judge anybody for shooting a gun. Okay, he let about
three or four rounds fly. He popshots not directly in
that area, but up at a steep angle and just
popshots off, one after another, boom. Then he screamed leave
me alone, real loud. After that, right his ears are ringing.
He couldn't hear anything for a few moments. He thought
(11:44):
he heard movement, but he wasn't sure because again they're
ringing in the ears from the shotgun blaster. So he
stands there a moment and he's reloading. As he's standing there,
he calms down to an extent. Treva said, at that
point he goes, okay, That's when I turned and ran,
And I was like, why do you turn and run?
He goes. After he shot, and after the ringing kind
(12:05):
of subsided just enough, he could hear thrashing coming down
off to his right hand side, coming up parallel to
get parallel with them inside the tree line. Again. He's
about halfway point in this open avalanche shoot area. He said.
He felt like this thing was circling around to come
after him. That's the feeling he had inside. He said.
(12:27):
It wasn't tangible, it was just what I felt. And
he said he turned and took off, running towards the cabin. No,
he said, as he was running along, every once while
he would stop turning around, raise the twelve gage in
that direction. Nothing, do it again, run ten twelve paces
real fast. Again. This is a narrow game trail like
Wyden's narrows. It gets into brush and out of brush.
(12:49):
It's not anything consistent like a park trail. Okay, understand
what you're doing with And he would stop, turn nothing,
and he would continue on. He said, when he made
it back to the cabin, it was getting on into
You don't want to be out there dark. And again
sky's pretty light. Everything else is dark. And he said
when he got back up, because the cabin was elevated
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in the front and the back end was against the ground,
and it was on pilings in the front right for
the most cabin was on pilings the way the stairs were.
They went up in one direction about five steps, and
then they hooked back up to the little porch, little deck,
and then the cabin there. And he said, when he
got up there, he was standing there catching his breath,
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and he heard a grunt. He said, the grunt he
heard had to have come from behind the cabin. And
in the back of the cabin. When you go in
the door, there's a window on each side of this
wood stove, and it's on the upper portion of the wall.
They're not very low, he said, they're about four and
a half feet off the ground. Then they're about two
foot tall and about two foot wide windows, and he
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said he went inside it, drabbed his flashlight out of
his bag, went over and started looking out these windows
to see if he could see anything, right, he said,
at one point and the one window, he couldn't see anything.
He thought he saw brush moving, but the wind could
have did it something else. And so he went to
the other window, which if you're facing the cabin, he said,
it would be the one off to the left. He
(14:15):
went over to that side, hit the flashlight again. That's
when he saw eyeshine further up the hill behind the cabin,
up into the brush. He said, he wasn't sure how
tall it would have to be at that point to
see it, but it was above the brush that he
saw the eye shine, and he said it was bright red.
It was immediate. It was very like holy shit. So
(14:35):
he killed the light, goes over again. This door. It
wasn't latchable or anything like that. He had it hanging
by a screw in each hand, just fitting it. Not
complete or whatever. He said. He took his dwall impact
and he screwed a board across to keep that door shut.
He said. He sat there. He had left his food
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out on the deck where he had set it down
before he took off. He said, he wasn't even thinking
about it.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
And.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Stay tuned for more sasquatch out to sea. We'll be
right back after these messages, said, he sat down, sat
there and just looked around every once in a while,
make sure nothing was looking in at him or whatever. Basically,
he ended up after, he said, it had to have
been a few hours. He ended up falling asleep, laying
(15:26):
basically on the shotgun, had three thirty eight rifles right
next to him in the four fifty four within easy
reach tuk back into the corner. He said. At one
point he was woken up by what sounded like a
real heavy weight being out on that deck, of the
shifting and the creaking of the boards under severe weight.
And he was listening and he heard his plate that
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he had out there earlier, and the silverware he had
on it clink around right, and it dawned on him,
I left my food out there, So he sits up,
turns on his flashlight and starts yelling I'm in here,
I'm in here, and then he heard nothing, so he
was like, what the hell. He didn't know what the
thump dump thump was. He assumes it was a couple
few steps jumping off or whatever, because it just went
(16:09):
quiet and there was no more noise, he said. He
laid there for a little while longer, shaken and freaking
out inside because he didn't know what the hell it was, Like,
what did I get myself into? Kind of deals? He said.
Eventually he calmed down enough that he fell back asleep.
He woke up the next morning bright and early in
a flash, sat up real quick, looking around. Everything was
peaceful and calm. He heard songbirds. The sun was out,
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so he woke up with a sense of peace. He
used the cordless and took the screws out of the
board he had put across the doorway, got it out
of the way, opened the door, slowly, looked out, slowly
went out, looking around, had the shotgun with them? Was
just like, what the hell? He said. His plate was there,
his silverware was on the deck, His plate was there.
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He had made some kind of posteroni or something like that.
Where it was some kind of Creamiofredo sauce, and he
had cooked a steak to go with that stuff, so
there was a lot of sauce on the plate along
with the steak. But he said the plate was mostly clean,
except it looked like a tongue drag of some kind
across the plate, and there was a funny smell out
on the deck. Looked around, didn't see any sign of anything.
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Try to look for tracks. Songbirds are going real peaceful.
He was like, I don't know what the hell to do,
but I'm stuck. He's there for a few more days.
So he immediately gets into his work. He goes, I'm
gonna fire up to saw. I'm gonna do this. I'm
gonna do that. He went, fired up the generator that
the guy left underneath the deck. He got that going,
started making a lot of noise with his carpentry, and
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focused on what he had to do. He said he
never worked so efficiently in his light. He completed almost
everything that second day, almost everything door, all of it,
replaced the window. He said he was motivated to have
that place one hundred percent so he could hide in
there if he needed to. I'm not laughing at him.
I understand it. He said. It was quiet for the
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next two days, and the following day this plane was
supposed to be back to get him. So with all
the weather clear and everything, he wasn't concerned with that.
He was just wanting hopefully nothing happens with the weather
window and they're able to get him out of there.
He said, because he was all done, he figured he
would just sit out on the deck and keep an
eye out and listen and all this kind of stuff,
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and again, songbirds are going. There wasn't any weird feeling
until dusk, he said. At dusk he heard a whoop
that standing on the deck, you can easily see the lake.
The lake is about not quite one hundred yards in
front of you, but it had been maintained and cleared
out to where you have a nice view of this lake.
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And he said it was off to the right hand side,
probably had to have originated probably hundred one hundred and
fifty yards away ish because of the brush and everything,
he couldn't safe for sure. And he said he heard
that and instantly jumped up, went inside and shut the door.
He said, he made sure that he anchored bolted everything.
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He had to for that doorway to be pristine. Tiptop
even built a little thing to slide a board in
there for extra protection. He had two sets, one at
the top, one towards the bottom, so he could put
two of the leftover boards there. He did that, and
then he's sitting there, he goes, you know what, I'm
gonna go fill up that generator because it's going to
(19:27):
run for at least six hours. It's loud, right. What
he decided to do is take off part of the
muffler of that thing, so it ran real loud, real
real loud. There's this little what they call a fire arrestor, right,
There's like this conical shape thing that sticks into the
exhaust that kind of keeps any flames from spitting out
or whatever. So he removed that and he fired it
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up after he filled it up, because he had to
go back outside to do this. Fired it up and
it was nice and loud, and he was comfortable with that.
He let that run and went back inside and just
sat there and he said, off in the distance, it
sounded like across the lake. Every once in a while
he would hear a long, bellowing kind of howl yell,
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whatever you want to call it. He said, he hadn't
calmed down enough. Once the generator went out, which killed
a little work light he had running, and some battery
charges he had connected or whatever. Part of this plan
with that was to make sure every battery he had
because he had one of these little systems where you
clicked the battery on. It's got a little bit of
a light, a flashlight, so he had enough light or whatever.
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And so he said, once the generator died and he
was just chilling there, he felt a little more comfortable
having various power options for a light or whatever. Right,
And so he said. He sat there just trying to
stay as calm as he could. But every once in
a while, across what he assumed was across the lake,
he would hear that long, bellowing, mournful, sorrowful kind of
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scream yell whatever. He said. It was mostly in one
like a baritone type octave, but at the end it
would always end high pitched. It was real weird, but
the high pitched portion, he said, was very brief. He
ended up falling asleep nothing not a sound, he said.
He slip pretty good up until he heard up bam
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shook the whole cabin. Something smacked the cabin startled the
shit out of him. When he jumped up, he grabbed
the four fifty four and he's looking out the back
two windows because it hit near where he was laying
down on the side. And he said when he looked out,
he didn't see anything, but it was daylight. So since
he was up, he was like, screw this. He started
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gathering up his stuff, putting everything back into these small
totes he traveled with and all that stuff. He said.
After a couple hours he went outside. The weather was
still clear, everything was good. He tidied up the last
bit he had as far as that contract had to go.
You know. Once he was outside for a little bit,
it was quiet initially, then songbirds started chirping and singing,
and and he felt a little more calm knowing they
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were around. And then after a little while he heard
the drone of the prop plane coming in and it
showed up. He never so happily loaded up, asked the pilot, hey,
on the flight out, I was about an hour and
a half's light. Asked him, hey, any strange stuff ever
happened here? And the pilot, without skipping to be goes well, yeah,
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there's a freaking big foot out there somewhere.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Man.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Things crazy. He'll throw stuff at you. Did it throw anything?
And he goes, no, I didn't throw anything. He goes, okay, good, Yeah,
they'll throw stuff at you. He said. The way the
pilot was this nonchalant. He was taken aback and didn't
know how to react to it. Hey, Travis, thanks for
reaching out. It was good to catch up with you
on those old projects and stuff from years back. Yeah,
shit gets crazy. What I wanted to show with you
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today comes from Samuel and his son, and we'll call
him Samuel Junior. They're from the Yek Delta, the UK
Couscacune Delta. We'll leave it at that. Samuel is in
a certain position, not his real name. To use names
of these particular rivers, it really allows people to be
in a way pinpointed. So we'll just leave it alone.
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What Samuel dealt with this encounter happened about seven years ago,
but prior to that, Samuel was able to have time
with the sun when he actually turned fifteen because him
his son's mother didn't get along. They lived somewhere else,
and so at fifteen, Samuel was able to take custody
of his son, start being hands on dad versus child'sport dad.
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So for three years Samuel attempted to take his son
out for hunting, to get him laced up, train properly,
get his marksmanship up, teach him the lay of the land,
teach him some of the traditional stuff that he felt
that his son should know. For three years in a row,
they were thwarted, whether it be no most to be found,
whether just running them out or just circumstances. So he
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was really stoked this particularly year, about seven years ago,
to get out on the river with the sun. They
live off of a major river. This particular river they
were back up in was a smaller feat river, a
lot smaller narrow were they were back in there about
two miles from what he was saying, it's real twisty
and turney, and there's this one spot that's got a
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pretty decent straight away before it hooks around to the right,
kind of like a fish hook shape. And this straightaway
was only like maybe one hundred and twenty five yards.
That morning they were slowly coming up, it was just
barely daylight. They could see clearly. You don't mistake what
I'm saying the sun was off to their right and
slowly coming up. It was just not very high in
the sky. Again in the fall, of course, there's lots
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of colors and stuff. As they're going up, he was
explaining that the river bank was about two feet above
them from the water line, roughly maybe three in certain places.
And the further back he got, the higher it got
from the water line. And he goes when they got
back up in there, it was between two three feet
higher than the water level and whatnot. He said, because
of the ice moving out in the spring, it took
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a lot of the brush right on the edges with it.
So while the brush was a good ten to twenty
feet back away from the river, right all the alders
of stuff. As he was coming up, the sun was excited.
The Sun's sitting in front of him. As they hit
this trade away directly in front of him, they see
this what looked like a huge moose, nice rack everything.
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The head was twisted down and it was holding this ant.
It's funny, but it ran through a kind of a
hole in the brush directly in front of him and disappeared.
So instantly they're excited. He kills the motor and they
just drifting forward, and he starts giving the son instruction, Hey,
you're going to take the lead. We're gonna go slow,
take your time, just coaching him a little bit. And
he had already altered his anchor line to have a
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little wedge kind of shovel anchor, about thirty feet of rope,
so he didn't have to go and run and tied off.
He could just jump up on the bank and digging in, right,
So he jumps up, he does that, his son hands
him his gun. He helps his son out with his
gun and stuff, and he has his son take to lead.
He's trying to remember what I taught you, remember where
to shoot all this stuff. Junior's got it. Junior is
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eighteen at the time, had just turned eighteen like a
month before. So he takes a Samuel's about four steps
behind Junior roughly to give him room, but he wanted
to back him up in case his shot missing the
bulmost try to charge. Shit happens, right, So Junior gets
up to this. It's not a game trailer. It was
just like an opening in the brush. So when his
son gets over there, he squats down a little bit
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and raises a gun lowers it, raises it again and
is looking and then lowers the gun and turns to
Samuel and goes, in a regular speaking voice, goes, it's
not a moose. Dad. And Samue's like quiet, and he goes, Dad,
it's not a moose. And he turns again and he
raises his open he goes, it's not a moose. And
so Samuel comes up, what do you talk. We just
saw it. We just saw this moose cut through there.
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What do you mean it's not a moose? He comes
around and he's looking and his son's pointing. So where
this particular opening was in the brush was basically at
a point of a V shape where it opened up,
and there's kind of some scrub rush and stuff here
off to an immediate left behind that row of brush
on the river bank, scrub brush and everything, but it
kind of weds shaped away from him, with the outer
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part being like black spruce, asking and whatnot, some willows,
and it ran out and the black spruce we right
in there, maybe sixteen eighteen feet from what Samuel was saying.
So Samuel was looking over his son's shoulder and he's
looking and he goes, what do you mean where'd it go?
Because in essence, it should have been a wide open view.
Had it been a moose, it should have been clear
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right there. They would have heard it crashing through the trees.
It wasn't adding up. So the sun points and he goes,
it's right over there, and he goes, Dad, it walks
like a man. And Samuel's like, what are you talking about?
We saw a moose. What do you mean It walked
like a man. And Samuel in his mind's eyes trying
to envision a moose walking like a man. It just
wasn't adding up. So he looks and way at just
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where the tree lined curves out of view, he sees
this dark things peaking out again. It happened to be
the direction of where the sun was coming up off
in the distance, and so it's silhouetted. And Samuel was like,
let's squat it down next to Junior, looking and so
he raises his rifle and look to the scope and
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he dials it back, have a little bit of a
wider view, but bringing a lot closer. He said he
saw it. He was peeking out tucking back. It was
just like a head and the shoulder leaning out and
then leaning back, and it threw him off because the
conundrum of it was is he was expecting to see
a moose. Now there's this tall, manlike figure leaning out.
He's what the hell And he's asking him, what'd you see?
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What the hell is that? When the son was like,
I don't know, but when I looked through the brush, Dad,
it wasn't a moose. It was walking away and it
went into the brush right there, and now it's peeking
out at us. He said. It walked like a man.
So Samuel's okay. He looks at the scope one more time,
he said, And just as he did and lowered it,
he was just touching his son to tell him, hey,
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let's get out of here. And as he touched his
son's shoulder, this thing let out a scream. The combination
of the scream simultaneously with the hand on the shoulder,
Junior popped up like a jack in the box accordion
what Samuel said, knock sam em clean over. Knocked the
rifle out of his hand. The son takes off, so
Samuel collects himself, grabs his rifle right behind him. Somewhere
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in the midst of that, the scream stop Samuel's son
is down in the skiff right now. Already kid was motivated.
He's trying to fire up the kicker. But his dad
pulled a little kill switch off a bit right and
it was just hanging there. All you need to is
click it into the little safety and catching it fire up.
Junior was unaware, didn't have that much experience with downboard,
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so he's just yanking away right, almost pulling the damn
thing out of the water. Samuel jumps down in the skiff,
sets his rifle down, a says move. His son turns
and is holding his rifle. He says, calmed down, we're leaving.
He puts the kill switch back in place, he fires
it up, and he turns and he looks back towards
the direction of that patch where they were looking through
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the hole in the brush. And as he's looking, he
can hear and feel running. He could feel it because
the way the boat was still pushed up against the
bank at the moment, it was transferring, and he could
feel it in his feet as well. It was like startling.
It was what the hell? Stay tuned for more sasquatch
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out to see. We'll be right back after the east
messages the motor is running. He makes sure the anchor's pulled,
sat down in there the waters, catching the boat and
slowly pulling it as he's working his way back, and
all of a sudden, as he just gets it back
to the kicker to do what he has to do,
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put in reverse, pull away from the bank and get
turned around or whatever. As he just stands and grabs
the arm of the tiller, all of a sudden, the
shot breaks boom, and it startles the shit out of
him right because it's immediate left to his left. His
son is fired or shot into the brush. What the
hell was that? He goes, it was looking at us.
It was looking at us. So Junior's freaking. He racks
another round and Samuel's stopped shooting. You know what the
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hell it was right there, Dad, It was looking at us.
And he goes, why'd you shoot it? Junior's I didn't.
I shot up. So they had a little bit of
back and forth because of the adrenaline and the high
emotions involved. Well, Samuel had left his rifle two rows
ahead of him, leaned against the bench seat of the
lun skiff. He jumps over and grabs it again. The
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water is pushing him back at this point, so the
rear end the stern of the skiff bumps into the bank,
is starting to swing the front around. This is all
going on, and as he grabs his rifle, turns back
and gets back to where the kicker is, he hears
a grunt, like a gurgling, reverberating grunt, growl kind of noise.
Is real deep, he said, And he turned and in essence,
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he's looking straight off the stern at this point, because
the skiff was swinging around. As he looks, he was startled.
And all of a sudden, he hears the son say
get down, and he turns and he sees his son
standing on the bench seat, so instinctively ducked another shot.
Bay am. They hear the scream and a bunch of thrashing.
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So Samuel turns around again and raises his rifle. And
this thing was out of you at this point, and
he said, when he initially saw it standing there, he
could see it better, but the face was really black.
It was hard to make out features, but he could
see the glint of like life in the eye, he said.
The eyes look black and the sun shot again is
well shit, you know what the hell? He is get
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down from where you're standing. I got to operate the
boat as that scream ended, and that they heard the
thrashing and the brief little scolding he gave it. His
son got down. Now the front end is swinging around,
so where they were looking was almost behind them at
this point, back up where that river hooks around where
they initially saw in the direction they saw what was
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a moose. They hear another scream, a very very high
pitched but also a lot more powerful screen and it
startled them right because the first one was loud as hell.
From what he said, this one was a lot louder.
He looks back up basically behind him. Now they're staring.
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They see this thing. It looks real, super skinny. Almost
looked like it was standing sideways the way it was
moving at the distance, maybe at this point one hundred
and fifty yards. At this distance, they couldn't figure out
why because it was literally moving sideways, so it looked
a lot skinnier. The way it was moving. It was
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like it was doing something. But he said the closest
thing would be a dance, but it wasn't melodic or
rhythmic in any way. Then it turned broadside, he said,
it was taller than the other word. The other one,
he said, when it was peaking from behind the trees,
he realized the trees are about eighteen foot ish between
sixteen eighteen foot as a rough estimate, this thing had
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to be at least eleven foot tall when it was
peaking from behind the trees. Before the initial screaming, they
took off with the skiff, and he said this one
was taller than the alderbrush along the river bank, which
was over their heads. So he said it had to
have been at least a foot or two taller than
the one they originally saw. That scream happens, and it's moving,
and when it turns the broadside, he said, the way
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it was moving was like it would slink down and
move and then stand up. And then when it got
close to where that opening was in the brush where
they initially saw what they thought was a moose cut through,
they started moving back and forth real fast and making
this weird gurgly growl sound. At this point, the skiff
is already facing down river. They're drifting them along this
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whole time. So he jumps down and gets gone. Now
this is pretty narrow fairly deep but narrow, so he
couldn't just go wide open and make the turns because
they were pretty tight turns, so he'd have to go
nice and slow to make these turns. And it was
real windy. They're two miles as a crow flies from
the mouth of where it met took to the larger river.
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River miles going back and forth, probably closer to three.
So they're cutting back and forth, cutting back and forth.
He said. They were about four bends heading back to
where thought, okay, we're getting out of here. There's nothing
else happened. Then they hear this crash, like a breaking sound,
off in the distance up ahead of them to the right,
and it was just as they came around this one
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bend and there was a short little run and then
it cuts back around to the left as far as
the river goes, and they heard the breakup over there,
and all of a sudden they could hear it over
the skiff and everything. It was a loud, cracking sound,
so it was like, what the hell. So they made
it around, and then when they came back on the
other bend, just as they were coming around where it
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bends back to the left, been ahead of where they
were all of a sudden, just in front of them,
about just as they were coming into the turn, you know,
the apex of this turn where it's a little bit
of a straightaway. This black spruce tree is throwing, like
speared into the muddy river bank to where they had
to duck down immediately. If it was any lower, it
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would have pushed them out of the boat or stopped
the boat. So that freaked meat because they barely made
it through that. And then he gave it a little
more throttle, and then it kicked up. When a few
more bins, they heard noises thrashing behind him. He couldn't
make out if it was chasing them or what it
was doing, because again he has the noise of the bow,
the noise of his own thoughts in his head, and
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also this commotion, so it's like a gulash. So he
said there were about two or so, maybe three bins
from where the black spruce wedged into the mud bank.
When they came around another bend, and all of a sudden,
it looked like a birch tree or a piece of
a birch tree was wedged in as well, and a
little lower. He initially was like he thought he was
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going to have to stop, you know what I mean.
But thankfully the weight of the birch dropped into the water.
So what he did was gunned it a little bit,
held onto the back of the skiff the kickers so
didn't kick up too far anyway, and rode over the log.
He said, once that happened, he got it up to
what speed it could tolerate going through these s curves,
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And he said it was about three more bends down
when they hooked a right turn, and they were going
to hook back around to the left. When they're in
the apex of that turn, they saw it standing there again,
the ones that he had guessed. His son shot because
when it was standing there he could see what it
looked like. It had a wet spot off to the
side of its chest. It didn't do anything, but his
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son raised a rifle to shoot at it. Just as
he fired the shot, the thing moved. The shot miss
ran it off, so they continued on. They make it
out to where the mouth of this little feeder river
meets the larger river. It's a fairly large river. So
they went out to the middle. Samuel killed the outboard
so they could calm down, he let himself a cigarette.
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His son was like, what the hell, what is that?
Samuel like, it's a harry Man. I didn't know. I'd
only seen him before many years ago, and it was
at distance. In other words, I knew of them, but
it was like not something everyday type of thing, So
it didn't really come to mind because it was so
many years ago, and of course he didn't have this
kind of reference to share. So they had a discussion.
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Junior was pretty shook up. So when I had a
chance to talk to Junior about what his perspective was
is he was excited. His dad taught him very well
how to shoot, respect and all that. One thing his
dad didn't notice when Junior went up to that clearing,
that opening in the brush and looked just before he
raised his rifle, he noticed tighter to the left there
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was a caribou antler's on the ground with remains of
a carcass, and also a dead brown bear that was
pause up. What stood out about the dead brown bear
was with these paws up, there was fur and everything
still attached to the legs, but it was like the
whole chest was missing from it. He didn't notice the
head or anything because of just how it was obscured.
But there was dead critters back there. His dad didn't
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notice that because his dad wasn't quite where he was
and looking tight to the left. His dad's attention was
Harryman Peakeey right. Then. I asked him what caused you
when you fired the shot to actually shoot it, not
the warning shot the initial time, but the second time
when you shot it. Why'd you shoot that? And he said,
I didn't want it to get my dad. I want
to thank them for sharing that, because approximately seven years
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ago on a major river way in the White k Delta,
the Uconn't Custom Crime Delta. I want to thank you
Samuel for reaching out and sharing. I know it's not easy,
especially with some of the cultural things. There's places where
you can't even go and speak about the Harryman and
they'll want you out of the village. They can play
none of that because you'll bring a bad omen according
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to what they believe, and bad fishing. They'll steal something.
There's a multitude of things. I don't knock that superstitious
belief because it started somewhere for a certain reason, so
I don't knock it. I have a different view, of course,
because of public safety. But again I wouldn't never begrudge
somebody for their beliefs. Thanks against Samuel for sharing that,
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Thank you Junior, Thank you guys for joining me. We'll
catch you on the next one.
Now one of your pudding. I got a string going
on here, something just cause my dog. Something killed your dog,
my dog. We're flying through the air over the tree.
I don't know how it did it, Okay, Damn, I'm
really confused. All I saw was my dog coming over
the fence and he was dead. And once you hit
the ground like, I didn't see any cars. All I
saw was my dog coming over the fence. Sat what
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are you putting? We got some wonder or something crawling
around out here? Did you see what it was? Or
was it was? Standing enough? I'm out here looking through
the window now and I don't see anything. I don't
want to go outside. Jesus quice, you better New York. Hello,
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hit somebody out here?
Speaker 2 (01:05):
What went on out there?
Speaker 1 (01:06):
I thought of a bit just about sixty forty nine.
I don't know easy him out there? Yeah, I'm right head.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Oh hey, greetings, thanks for joining me. Todavis breadon Alaska.
You might hear rain hitting the windshield. I'm doing this
on the fly. Got a lot of background stuff going on.
What I wanted to share with you today comes from Travis.
Travis as a carpenter. He actually reached out a while
back I worked with the guy years ago, back when
I was an apprentice, but he had somehow stumbled across
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me on YouTube and was like, wait, I know that guy.
He reached out and wanted to share something with me
that happened back in two thousand and four. He just
thought it was strange. He used to work with me,
and all of a sudden he sees me doing this.
Travis was contracted to do some work on a cabin
at Devil's Lake. There's many places called Devil's Lake, appropriate title,
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I think, so he was hired on for a four
day contract. This gentleman that hired him had been having
trouble since he built the place with what he perceived
as bear's breaking in during the off season when he
wasn't there. He would have to fix the damages and
do the repairs every year. It's just something that this
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cabin owner had just taken as par for the course.
It's the wilds of Alaska. Bears break in whatever he
gets blown in. I don't like the thought of being
dropped off somewhere for work, but I've been there, done that,
so Travis thought nothing of it. He had all the
extra materials that the guy had flown in a couple
weeks prior, saw what was there, made a little list,
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because obviously he's not new to it, had a list
of stuff, took pictures of the damage for Travis to
look at and possess. Okay, we'll get this for this
and that for that whatever. He had a bunch of
knotty pine for the interior wall where it was damaged,
a new door and a new window that he was
replacing along with all the other minor materials. Two by
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fours and four by fours. Travis has flown in the morning.
It was a real tight weather window on him getting
in there. He got everything offloaded. The pilot that dropped
him off said I'm gonna be back in four days
whether dependant. He understood off the pilot does. So Travis
is there and he drags all the materials up to
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the cabin. He decided, you know what, he had a
little pop tent and he decided he was just going
to pop that tin up inside the cabin. The damage
at the door, he said, was extensive. He basically had
to reframe in and do some other stuff to even
attach the new door right. He said, it was crazy.
It looked like the door just imploded into the cabin
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kind of deal with serious force because all the hinges
and everything that was attached, even the dead bolt, all
that was forced in and everything was splintered out behind it, right,
so it was like forced in. The door was in
three separate pieces, and it was solid wood. That particular
door he was replacing with another custom solid door, branches, thick,
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solid not a hollow door of any kind. It was
all custom made by a woodsmith in a shop specifically
for this doorway. But the one previous that he saw
was literally broken into three pieces. It just amazed him
at the force it would take to do that, but
yet there it was, right, So it gets on the
job of just getting things squared away because the owner
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had been in a couple weeks before and did a
bunch of the cleaning already, so it was basically outside
of that broken door being inside there the obvious mess
of the damage. The floor was cleaned up, and all
the excess garbs and all that kind of stuff was
already gone out of his way. We set up his
pop tent inside the cabin to stay out of the wind,
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have another roof over him. Right, So first day he did,
he was taking off old stuff and doing his thing
and basically refurbishing what he could to reuse and getting
it ready. He got a bunch of the framing into
the new door done. So what he decided to do
that first night is basically set the door in place,
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put in a screw in each one of the different
hinges to at least be able to shut it, and
the next day he planned on finishing up what he
had to do. So he said, just as it was
getting into dusk, which this was towards end of May
two thousand and four, it was still getting dark at
land of the midnight sun, but it wasn't full on craziness.
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So he gets all that tended too, gets the door
in place, and he said he stepped out on the deck.
There was a little small, little weber grill that he
was cooking on. He got everything gone and was cooking
up his dinner. And he said he was going in
and out from his supplies inside and coming out and
tending to the meat he had cooking on the grill.
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He said, it was getting on in the dusk and
he was really tired, so he was trying to get
it done so he can complete the contract. Basically with
the limited time he had. He said, the time he
was coming out to take the food off of the
grill and he was putting it on his plate, he said,
on the other side of the lake, he heard a scream.
It concerned him that a woman was out there along screaming.
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He was like, oh shit, what the hell is this.
He was very well armed, three thirty eight win mag rifle,
twelve gaate shotgun, and a four to fifty four, so
he was loaded for bear, literally loaded for bear. So
he decided, okay, since there's a lot of brush, I'll
bring the shotgun and the four fifty four and I'm
gonna go help this woman. Because again, up until that point,
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harry Man, Bigfoot, all that shit wasn't even on this
guy's radar. So Travis, he takes off and he follows
the game trail along the lake, and he said he
got about half the distance around, which would have been
a little over half a mile, right along the edge
of the lake. As he's going off to the other end,
and he said he was overcome by the overwhelming sense
that he was being watched in a very negative way.
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And he said, he's stopped and he hunkered down low
and was trying to look around because the way the
brush was, he couldn't really see too much. Very narrow
game trail. He's pushing through the brush and he felt
real nervous about that. But where he got that feeling.
He was in a little bit of an open area
and off to his right was the lake with a
little bit of brush in between him and the lake.
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So he said it was about twenty five feet to
the edge of the lake, and then up to his
left it sloped up up towards the mountains. That's why
he stood there, and he said he kept feeling sick
to his stomach. This is bad, and so he decided
to start yelling out, hey, do you need help? And
so he starts yelling this over and over. He said
he finally got sick of it. He wasn't hearing a response.
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Then he heard the scream again, and the scream came
from behind him. He said he wasn't sure how far
behind him, but it was between him in the cabin.
And he said that's when he knew it wasn't no
woman because the second scream he heard was very low
but very high pitched at the same time, and he
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knew all was not good. He said he was highly intimidated.
He said fear, yes, but he felt he was able
to turn that fear into focus, and I'm getting back
to some relative safety. So he starts going back. He
said it took everything in him to go that direction
where this scream came from, because it freaked him out.
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But he didn't want to be where he was. He
wanted to get back to that cabin. He said. He
was pushing back through the brush and he got about
one hundred yards or so from where he initially heard
that second scream, and he started hearing this huffing sound.
He said it was probably about sixty ish feet away,
up in the brush off to his right hand side,
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which would be sloping up the mountain next to him.
And he said in the thickness of the brush that
he was standing in, he could not make it out.
And when he was hearing the huffing, he stopped and
was really listening really hard, and he said it was
really deep breathing. It wasn't really a huff, It was
real deep breathing. And he said that was very concerning
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because he didn't know what the hell it was. He's
been around bears before. It wasn't some bear, And he said,
as he was sitting there trying to listen, he decided,
do you know what, screw this. I don't need to listen.
I need to continue on about my way. So he
continues on, and he said he made it about another
fifty feet and then it opened up into a little
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bit of a clearing, a little more clear area. Where
it opened up to was an avalanche shoot that came down.
He said. It was about one hundred yards wide. All
the trees had been knocked down from the years before
avalanche and stuff, and there was wooded debris and stumps
and just avalanche to breathe. And so he felt in
the open he was a little more calm down because
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he had a better line of sight. He said, as
he stood there, he went up to about the middle
there was about one hundred yards wide. So he went
about fifty yards into the opening where it's more clear,
and started looking around, panning around. Now, understand, he started
this at dusk. Okay, so now it's getting on later
into dusk to where it's getting dark enough to where
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you can't fully see now land of the midnight sun. Understand,
the sky is light. The terrain is dark. It's only
getting darker at this time of year. He said. He
stood there and he was looking up slope in the
direction at an angle, in the direction that he had
heard the huffing just moments before, and he heard movement.
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And then when he would focus on that movement, it'd
go quiet, and then he would be listening and then
he would hear movement again. It focus in that direction
with the shotgun, and then the movement would stop, and
he was like, I couldn't see anything. At first. He
was like, I didn't want to turn my back. I
felt like I shouldn't turn my back. I should stay
focused on what I'm doing. So, he said, at that moment,
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he decided, you know what, I had a pocket full
of shotgun shells, slugs and buckshot, a fully loaded shotgun,
and a four fifty four. I was gonna let some
rounds fly. Now, unless you've been under those high stress
incidences where you feel it's necessary to pop some warning
shots and make some noise of your own, then don't
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judge anybody for shooting a gun. Okay, he let about
three or four rounds fly. He popshots not directly in
that area, but up at a steep angle and just
popshots off, one after another, boom. Then he screamed leave
me alone, real loud. After that, right his ears are ringing.
He couldn't hear anything for a few moments. He thought
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he heard movement, but he wasn't sure because again they're
ringing in the ears from the shotgun blaster. So he
stands there a moment and he's reloading. As he's standing there,
he calms down to an extent. Treva said, at that
point he goes, okay, That's when I turned and ran,
And I was like, why do you turn and run?
He goes. After he shot, and after the ringing kind
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of subsided just enough, he could hear thrashing coming down
off to his right hand side, coming up parallel to
get parallel with them inside the tree line. Again. He's
about halfway point in this open avalanche shoot area. He said.
He felt like this thing was circling around to come
after him. That's the feeling he had inside. He said.
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It wasn't tangible, it was just what I felt. And
he said he turned and took off, running towards the cabin. No,
he said, as he was running along, every once while
he would stop turning around, raise the twelve gage in
that direction. Nothing, do it again, run ten twelve paces
real fast. Again. This is a narrow game trail like
Wyden's narrows. It gets into brush and out of brush.
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It's not anything consistent like a park trail. Okay, understand
what you're doing with And he would stop, turn nothing,
and he would continue on. He said, when he made
it back to the cabin, it was getting on into
You don't want to be out there dark. And again
sky's pretty light. Everything else is dark. And he said
when he got back up, because the cabin was elevated
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in the front and the back end was against the ground,
and it was on pilings in the front right for
the most cabin was on pilings the way the stairs were.
They went up in one direction about five steps, and
then they hooked back up to the little porch, little deck,
and then the cabin there. And he said, when he
got up there, he was standing there catching his breath,
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and he heard a grunt. He said, the grunt he
heard had to have come from behind the cabin. And
in the back of the cabin. When you go in
the door, there's a window on each side of this
wood stove, and it's on the upper portion of the wall.
They're not very low, he said, they're about four and
a half feet off the ground. Then they're about two
foot tall and about two foot wide windows, and he
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said he went inside it, drabbed his flashlight out of
his bag, went over and started looking out these windows
to see if he could see anything, right, he said,
at one point and the one window, he couldn't see anything.
He thought he saw brush moving, but the wind could
have did it something else. And so he went to
the other window, which if you're facing the cabin, he said,
it would be the one off to the left. He
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went over to that side, hit the flashlight again. That's
when he saw eyeshine further up the hill behind the cabin,
up into the brush. He said, he wasn't sure how
tall it would have to be at that point to
see it, but it was above the brush that he
saw the eye shine, and he said it was bright red.
It was immediate. It was very like holy shit. So
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he killed the light, goes over again. This door. It
wasn't latchable or anything like that. He had it hanging
by a screw in each hand, just fitting it. Not
complete or whatever. He said. He took his dwall impact
and he screwed a board across to keep that door shut.
He said. He sat there. He had left his food
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out on the deck where he had set it down
before he took off. He said, he wasn't even thinking
about it.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
And.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Stay tuned for more sasquatch out to sea. We'll be
right back after these messages, said, he sat down, sat
there and just looked around every once in a while,
make sure nothing was looking in at him or whatever. Basically,
he ended up after, he said, it had to have
been a few hours. He ended up falling asleep, laying
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basically on the shotgun, had three thirty eight rifles right
next to him in the four fifty four within easy
reach tuk back into the corner. He said. At one
point he was woken up by what sounded like a
real heavy weight being out on that deck, of the
shifting and the creaking of the boards under severe weight.
And he was listening and he heard his plate that
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he had out there earlier, and the silverware he had
on it clink around right, and it dawned on him,
I left my food out there, So he sits up,
turns on his flashlight and starts yelling I'm in here,
I'm in here, and then he heard nothing, so he
was like, what the hell. He didn't know what the
thump dump thump was. He assumes it was a couple
few steps jumping off or whatever, because it just went
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quiet and there was no more noise, he said. He
laid there for a little while longer, shaken and freaking
out inside because he didn't know what the hell it was, Like,
what did I get myself into? Kind of deals? He said.
Eventually he calmed down enough that he fell back asleep.
He woke up the next morning bright and early in
a flash, sat up real quick, looking around. Everything was
peaceful and calm. He heard songbirds. The sun was out,
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so he woke up with a sense of peace. He
used the cordless and took the screws out of the
board he had put across the doorway, got it out
of the way, opened the door, slowly, looked out, slowly
went out, looking around, had the shotgun with them? Was
just like, what the hell? He said. His plate was there,
his silverware was on the deck, His plate was there.
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He had made some kind of posteroni or something like that.
Where it was some kind of Creamiofredo sauce, and he
had cooked a steak to go with that stuff, so
there was a lot of sauce on the plate along
with the steak. But he said the plate was mostly clean,
except it looked like a tongue drag of some kind
across the plate, and there was a funny smell out
on the deck. Looked around, didn't see any sign of anything.
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Try to look for tracks. Songbirds are going real peaceful.
He was like, I don't know what the hell to do,
but I'm stuck. He's there for a few more days.
So he immediately gets into his work. He goes, I'm
gonna fire up to saw. I'm gonna do this. I'm
gonna do that. He went, fired up the generator that
the guy left underneath the deck. He got that going,
started making a lot of noise with his carpentry, and
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focused on what he had to do. He said he
never worked so efficiently in his light. He completed almost
everything that second day, almost everything door, all of it,
replaced the window. He said he was motivated to have
that place one hundred percent so he could hide in
there if he needed to. I'm not laughing at him.
I understand it. He said. It was quiet for the
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next two days, and the following day this plane was
supposed to be back to get him. So with all
the weather clear and everything, he wasn't concerned with that.
He was just wanting hopefully nothing happens with the weather
window and they're able to get him out of there.
He said, because he was all done, he figured he
would just sit out on the deck and keep an
eye out and listen and all this kind of stuff,
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and again, songbirds are going. There wasn't any weird feeling
until dusk, he said. At dusk he heard a whoop
that standing on the deck, you can easily see the lake.
The lake is about not quite one hundred yards in
front of you, but it had been maintained and cleared
out to where you have a nice view of this lake.
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And he said it was off to the right hand side,
probably had to have originated probably hundred one hundred and
fifty yards away ish because of the brush and everything,
he couldn't safe for sure. And he said he heard
that and instantly jumped up, went inside and shut the door.
He said, he made sure that he anchored bolted everything.
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He had to for that doorway to be pristine. Tiptop
even built a little thing to slide a board in
there for extra protection. He had two sets, one at
the top, one towards the bottom, so he could put
two of the leftover boards there. He did that, and
then he's sitting there, he goes, you know what, I'm
gonna go fill up that generator because it's going to
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run for at least six hours. It's loud, right. What
he decided to do is take off part of the
muffler of that thing, so it ran real loud, real
real loud. There's this little what they call a fire arrestor, right,
There's like this conical shape thing that sticks into the
exhaust that kind of keeps any flames from spitting out
or whatever. So he removed that and he fired it
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up after he filled it up, because he had to
go back outside to do this. Fired it up and
it was nice and loud, and he was comfortable with that.
He let that run and went back inside and just
sat there and he said, off in the distance, it
sounded like across the lake. Every once in a while
he would hear a long, bellowing kind of howl yell,
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whatever you want to call it. He said, he hadn't
calmed down enough. Once the generator went out, which killed
a little work light he had running, and some battery
charges he had connected or whatever. Part of this plan
with that was to make sure every battery he had
because he had one of these little systems where you
clicked the battery on. It's got a little bit of
a light, a flashlight, so he had enough light or whatever.
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And so he said, once the generator died and he
was just chilling there, he felt a little more comfortable
having various power options for a light or whatever. Right,
And so he said. He sat there just trying to
stay as calm as he could. But every once in
a while, across what he assumed was across the lake,
he would hear that long, bellowing, mournful, sorrowful kind of
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scream yell whatever. He said. It was mostly in one
like a baritone type octave, but at the end it
would always end high pitched. It was real weird, but
the high pitched portion, he said, was very brief. He
ended up falling asleep nothing not a sound, he said.
He slip pretty good up until he heard up bam
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shook the whole cabin. Something smacked the cabin startled the
shit out of him. When he jumped up, he grabbed
the four fifty four and he's looking out the back
two windows because it hit near where he was laying
down on the side. And he said when he looked out,
he didn't see anything, but it was daylight. So since
he was up, he was like, screw this. He started
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gathering up his stuff, putting everything back into these small
totes he traveled with and all that stuff. He said.
After a couple hours he went outside. The weather was
still clear, everything was good. He tidied up the last
bit he had as far as that contract had to go.
You know. Once he was outside for a little bit,
it was quiet initially, then songbirds started chirping and singing,
and and he felt a little more calm knowing they
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were around. And then after a little while he heard
the drone of the prop plane coming in and it
showed up. He never so happily loaded up, asked the pilot, hey,
on the flight out, I was about an hour and
a half's light. Asked him, hey, any strange stuff ever
happened here? And the pilot, without skipping to be goes well, yeah,
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there's a freaking big foot out there somewhere.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Man.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Things crazy. He'll throw stuff at you. Did it throw anything?
And he goes, no, I didn't throw anything. He goes, okay, good, Yeah,
they'll throw stuff at you. He said. The way the
pilot was this nonchalant. He was taken aback and didn't
know how to react to it. Hey, Travis, thanks for
reaching out. It was good to catch up with you
on those old projects and stuff from years back. Yeah,
shit gets crazy. What I wanted to show with you
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today comes from Samuel and his son, and we'll call
him Samuel Junior. They're from the Yek Delta, the UK
Couscacune Delta. We'll leave it at that. Samuel is in
a certain position, not his real name. To use names
of these particular rivers, it really allows people to be
in a way pinpointed. So we'll just leave it alone.
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What Samuel dealt with this encounter happened about seven years ago,
but prior to that, Samuel was able to have time
with the sun when he actually turned fifteen because him
his son's mother didn't get along. They lived somewhere else,
and so at fifteen, Samuel was able to take custody
of his son, start being hands on dad versus child'sport dad.
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So for three years Samuel attempted to take his son
out for hunting, to get him laced up, train properly,
get his marksmanship up, teach him the lay of the land,
teach him some of the traditional stuff that he felt
that his son should know. For three years in a row,
they were thwarted, whether it be no most to be found,
whether just running them out or just circumstances. So he
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was really stoked this particularly year, about seven years ago,
to get out on the river with the sun. They
live off of a major river. This particular river they
were back up in was a smaller feat river, a
lot smaller narrow were they were back in there about
two miles from what he was saying, it's real twisty
and turney, and there's this one spot that's got a
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pretty decent straight away before it hooks around to the right,
kind of like a fish hook shape. And this straightaway
was only like maybe one hundred and twenty five yards.
That morning they were slowly coming up, it was just
barely daylight. They could see clearly. You don't mistake what
I'm saying the sun was off to their right and
slowly coming up. It was just not very high in
the sky. Again in the fall, of course, there's lots
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of colors and stuff. As they're going up, he was
explaining that the river bank was about two feet above
them from the water line, roughly maybe three in certain places.
And the further back he got, the higher it got
from the water line. And he goes when they got
back up in there, it was between two three feet
higher than the water level and whatnot. He said, because
of the ice moving out in the spring, it took
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a lot of the brush right on the edges with it.
So while the brush was a good ten to twenty
feet back away from the river, right all the alders
of stuff. As he was coming up, the sun was excited.
The Sun's sitting in front of him. As they hit
this trade away directly in front of him, they see
this what looked like a huge moose, nice rack everything.
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The head was twisted down and it was holding this ant.
It's funny, but it ran through a kind of a
hole in the brush directly in front of him and disappeared.
So instantly they're excited. He kills the motor and they
just drifting forward, and he starts giving the son instruction, Hey,
you're going to take the lead. We're gonna go slow,
take your time, just coaching him a little bit. And
he had already altered his anchor line to have a
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little wedge kind of shovel anchor, about thirty feet of rope,
so he didn't have to go and run and tied off.
He could just jump up on the bank and digging in, right,
So he jumps up, he does that, his son hands
him his gun. He helps his son out with his
gun and stuff, and he has his son take to lead.
He's trying to remember what I taught you, remember where
to shoot all this stuff. Junior's got it. Junior is
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eighteen at the time, had just turned eighteen like a
month before. So he takes a Samuel's about four steps
behind Junior roughly to give him room, but he wanted
to back him up in case his shot missing the
bulmost try to charge. Shit happens, right, So Junior gets
up to this. It's not a game trailer. It was
just like an opening in the brush. So when his
son gets over there, he squats down a little bit
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and raises a gun lowers it, raises it again and
is looking and then lowers the gun and turns to
Samuel and goes, in a regular speaking voice, goes, it's
not a moose. Dad. And Samue's like quiet, and he goes, Dad,
it's not a moose. And he turns again and he
raises his open he goes, it's not a moose. And
so Samuel comes up, what do you talk. We just
saw it. We just saw this moose cut through there.
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What do you mean it's not a moose? He comes
around and he's looking and his son's pointing. So where
this particular opening was in the brush was basically at
a point of a V shape where it opened up,
and there's kind of some scrub rush and stuff here
off to an immediate left behind that row of brush
on the river bank, scrub brush and everything, but it
kind of weds shaped away from him, with the outer
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part being like black spruce, asking and whatnot, some willows,
and it ran out and the black spruce we right
in there, maybe sixteen eighteen feet from what Samuel was saying.
So Samuel was looking over his son's shoulder and he's
looking and he goes, what do you mean where'd it go?
Because in essence, it should have been a wide open view.
Had it been a moose, it should have been clear
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right there. They would have heard it crashing through the trees.
It wasn't adding up. So the sun points and he goes,
it's right over there, and he goes, Dad, it walks
like a man. And Samuel's like, what are you talking about?
We saw a moose. What do you mean It walked
like a man. And Samuel in his mind's eyes trying
to envision a moose walking like a man. It just
wasn't adding up. So he looks and way at just
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where the tree lined curves out of view, he sees
this dark things peaking out again. It happened to be
the direction of where the sun was coming up off
in the distance, and so it's silhouetted. And Samuel was like,
let's squat it down next to Junior, looking and so
he raises his rifle and look to the scope and
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he dials it back, have a little bit of a
wider view, but bringing a lot closer. He said he
saw it. He was peeking out tucking back. It was
just like a head and the shoulder leaning out and
then leaning back, and it threw him off because the
conundrum of it was is he was expecting to see
a moose. Now there's this tall, manlike figure leaning out.
He's what the hell And he's asking him, what'd you see?
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What the hell is that? When the son was like,
I don't know, but when I looked through the brush, Dad,
it wasn't a moose. It was walking away and it
went into the brush right there, and now it's peeking
out at us. He said. It walked like a man.
So Samuel's okay. He looks at the scope one more time,
he said, And just as he did and lowered it,
he was just touching his son to tell him, hey,
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let's get out of here. And as he touched his
son's shoulder, this thing let out a scream. The combination
of the scream simultaneously with the hand on the shoulder,
Junior popped up like a jack in the box accordion
what Samuel said, knock sam em clean over. Knocked the
rifle out of his hand. The son takes off, so
Samuel collects himself, grabs his rifle right behind him. Somewhere
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in the midst of that, the scream stop Samuel's son
is down in the skiff right now. Already kid was motivated.
He's trying to fire up the kicker. But his dad
pulled a little kill switch off a bit right and
it was just hanging there. All you need to is
click it into the little safety and catching it fire up.
Junior was unaware, didn't have that much experience with downboard,
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so he's just yanking away right, almost pulling the damn
thing out of the water. Samuel jumps down in the skiff,
sets his rifle down, a says move. His son turns
and is holding his rifle. He says, calmed down, we're leaving.
He puts the kill switch back in place, he fires
it up, and he turns and he looks back towards
the direction of that patch where they were looking through
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the hole in the brush. And as he's looking, he
can hear and feel running. He could feel it because
the way the boat was still pushed up against the
bank at the moment, it was transferring, and he could
feel it in his feet as well. It was like startling.
It was what the hell? Stay tuned for more sasquatch
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out to see. We'll be right back after the east
messages the motor is running. He makes sure the anchor's pulled,
sat down in there the waters, catching the boat and
slowly pulling it as he's working his way back, and
all of a sudden, as he just gets it back
to the kicker to do what he has to do,
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put in reverse, pull away from the bank and get
turned around or whatever. As he just stands and grabs
the arm of the tiller, all of a sudden, the
shot breaks boom, and it startles the shit out of
him right because it's immediate left to his left. His
son is fired or shot into the brush. What the
hell was that? He goes, it was looking at us.
It was looking at us. So Junior's freaking. He racks
another round and Samuel's stopped shooting. You know what the
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hell it was right there, Dad, It was looking at us.
And he goes, why'd you shoot it? Junior's I didn't.
I shot up. So they had a little bit of
back and forth because of the adrenaline and the high
emotions involved. Well, Samuel had left his rifle two rows
ahead of him, leaned against the bench seat of the
lun skiff. He jumps over and grabs it again. The
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water is pushing him back at this point, so the
rear end the stern of the skiff bumps into the bank,
is starting to swing the front around. This is all
going on, and as he grabs his rifle, turns back
and gets back to where the kicker is, he hears
a grunt, like a gurgling, reverberating grunt, growl kind of noise.
Is real deep, he said, And he turned and in essence,
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he's looking straight off the stern at this point, because
the skiff was swinging around. As he looks, he was startled.
And all of a sudden, he hears the son say
get down, and he turns and he sees his son
standing on the bench seat, so instinctively ducked another shot.
Bay am. They hear the scream and a bunch of thrashing.
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So Samuel turns around again and raises his rifle. And
this thing was out of you at this point, and
he said, when he initially saw it standing there, he
could see it better, but the face was really black.
It was hard to make out features, but he could
see the glint of like life in the eye, he said.
The eyes look black and the sun shot again is
well shit, you know what the hell? He is get
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down from where you're standing. I got to operate the
boat as that scream ended, and that they heard the
thrashing and the brief little scolding he gave it. His
son got down. Now the front end is swinging around,
so where they were looking was almost behind them at
this point, back up where that river hooks around where
they initially saw in the direction they saw what was
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a moose. They hear another scream, a very very high
pitched but also a lot more powerful screen and it
startled them right because the first one was loud as hell.
From what he said, this one was a lot louder.
He looks back up basically behind him. Now they're staring.
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They see this thing. It looks real, super skinny. Almost
looked like it was standing sideways the way it was
moving at the distance, maybe at this point one hundred
and fifty yards. At this distance, they couldn't figure out
why because it was literally moving sideways, so it looked
a lot skinnier. The way it was moving. It was
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like it was doing something. But he said the closest
thing would be a dance, but it wasn't melodic or
rhythmic in any way. Then it turned broadside, he said,
it was taller than the other word. The other one,
he said, when it was peaking from behind the trees,
he realized the trees are about eighteen foot ish between
sixteen eighteen foot as a rough estimate, this thing had
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to be at least eleven foot tall when it was
peaking from behind the trees. Before the initial screaming, they
took off with the skiff, and he said this one
was taller than the alderbrush along the river bank, which
was over their heads. So he said it had to
have been at least a foot or two taller than
the one they originally saw. That scream happens, and it's moving,
and when it turns the broadside, he said, the way
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it was moving was like it would slink down and
move and then stand up. And then when it got
close to where that opening was in the brush where
they initially saw what they thought was a moose cut through,
they started moving back and forth real fast and making
this weird gurgly growl sound. At this point, the skiff
is already facing down river. They're drifting them along this
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whole time. So he jumps down and gets gone. Now
this is pretty narrow fairly deep but narrow, so he
couldn't just go wide open and make the turns because
they were pretty tight turns, so he'd have to go
nice and slow to make these turns. And it was
real windy. They're two miles as a crow flies from
the mouth of where it met took to the larger river.
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River miles going back and forth, probably closer to three.
So they're cutting back and forth, cutting back and forth.
He said. They were about four bends heading back to
where thought, okay, we're getting out of here. There's nothing
else happened. Then they hear this crash, like a breaking sound,
off in the distance up ahead of them to the right,
and it was just as they came around this one
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bend and there was a short little run and then
it cuts back around to the left as far as
the river goes, and they heard the breakup over there,
and all of a sudden they could hear it over
the skiff and everything. It was a loud, cracking sound,
so it was like, what the hell. So they made
it around, and then when they came back on the
other bend, just as they were coming around where it
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bends back to the left, been ahead of where they
were all of a sudden, just in front of them,
about just as they were coming into the turn, you know,
the apex of this turn where it's a little bit
of a straightaway. This black spruce tree is throwing, like
speared into the muddy river bank to where they had
to duck down immediately. If it was any lower, it
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would have pushed them out of the boat or stopped
the boat. So that freaked meat because they barely made
it through that. And then he gave it a little
more throttle, and then it kicked up. When a few
more bins, they heard noises thrashing behind him. He couldn't
make out if it was chasing them or what it
was doing, because again he has the noise of the bow,
the noise of his own thoughts in his head, and
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also this commotion, so it's like a gulash. So he
said there were about two or so, maybe three bins
from where the black spruce wedged into the mud bank.
When they came around another bend, and all of a sudden,
it looked like a birch tree or a piece of
a birch tree was wedged in as well, and a
little lower. He initially was like he thought he was
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going to have to stop, you know what I mean.
But thankfully the weight of the birch dropped into the water.
So what he did was gunned it a little bit,
held onto the back of the skiff the kickers so
didn't kick up too far anyway, and rode over the log.
He said, once that happened, he got it up to
what speed it could tolerate going through these s curves,
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And he said it was about three more bends down
when they hooked a right turn, and they were going
to hook back around to the left. When they're in
the apex of that turn, they saw it standing there again,
the ones that he had guessed. His son shot because
when it was standing there he could see what it
looked like. It had a wet spot off to the
side of its chest. It didn't do anything, but his
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son raised a rifle to shoot at it. Just as
he fired the shot, the thing moved. The shot miss
ran it off, so they continued on. They make it
out to where the mouth of this little feeder river
meets the larger river. It's a fairly large river. So
they went out to the middle. Samuel killed the outboard
so they could calm down, he let himself a cigarette.
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His son was like, what the hell, what is that?
Samuel like, it's a harry Man. I didn't know. I'd
only seen him before many years ago, and it was
at distance. In other words, I knew of them, but
it was like not something everyday type of thing, So
it didn't really come to mind because it was so
many years ago, and of course he didn't have this
kind of reference to share. So they had a discussion.
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Junior was pretty shook up. So when I had a
chance to talk to Junior about what his perspective was
is he was excited. His dad taught him very well
how to shoot, respect and all that. One thing his
dad didn't notice when Junior went up to that clearing,
that opening in the brush and looked just before he
raised his rifle, he noticed tighter to the left there
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was a caribou antler's on the ground with remains of
a carcass, and also a dead brown bear that was
pause up. What stood out about the dead brown bear
was with these paws up, there was fur and everything
still attached to the legs, but it was like the
whole chest was missing from it. He didn't notice the
head or anything because of just how it was obscured.
But there was dead critters back there. His dad didn't
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notice that because his dad wasn't quite where he was
and looking tight to the left. His dad's attention was
Harryman Peakeey right. Then. I asked him what caused you
when you fired the shot to actually shoot it, not
the warning shot the initial time, but the second time
when you shot it. Why'd you shoot that? And he said,
I didn't want it to get my dad. I want
to thank them for sharing that, because approximately seven years
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ago on a major river way in the White k Delta,
the Uconn't Custom Crime Delta. I want to thank you
Samuel for reaching out and sharing. I know it's not easy,
especially with some of the cultural things. There's places where
you can't even go and speak about the Harryman and
they'll want you out of the village. They can play
none of that because you'll bring a bad omen according
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to what they believe, and bad fishing. They'll steal something.
There's a multitude of things. I don't knock that superstitious
belief because it started somewhere for a certain reason, so
I don't knock it. I have a different view, of course,
because of public safety. But again I wouldn't never begrudge
somebody for their beliefs. Thanks against Samuel for sharing that,
(39:51):
Thank you Junior, Thank you guys for joining me. We'll
catch you on the next one.
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