October 12, 2025 • 44 mins
In this episode, Fred recounts two harrowing tales of mysterious and frightening incidents in the wilderness. The first story follows Joseph and Monty as they attempt to repair an old family cabin in the Yukon Kuskokwim Delta, only to be terrorized by unseen forces that petrify their dogs and threaten their safety.
The second story involves Michael and Spencer, who, while helping a friend on a boating trip near Seward, Alaska, encounter inexplicable screams and a massive, mysterious creature in the forest. Both tales underscore the eerie and often dangerous unknowns of the wilderness.
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00:00 Introduction and Warning 00:21 Setting the Scene: The Cabin in the Yukon 01:31 The Work Begins: Repairs and Odd Occurrences 04:19 Unsettling Signs: Dogs' Behavior and Strange Noises 07:28 Night of Terror: Unseen Threats 12:24 Desperate Measures: Defending the Cabin 20:54 Morning After: Assessing the Damage 21:58 A Narrow Escape 22:43 Unsettling Discovery 23:41 The Encounter 26:20 A New Story Begins 28:38 Strange Sounds in the Night 33:04 A Terrifying Sight 38:06 The Aftermath 40:24 Final Thoughts and Warnings
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The second story involves Michael and Spencer, who, while helping a friend on a boating trip near Seward, Alaska, encounter inexplicable screams and a massive, mysterious creature in the forest. Both tales underscore the eerie and often dangerous unknowns of the wilderness.
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00:00 Introduction and Warning 00:21 Setting the Scene: The Cabin in the Yukon 01:31 The Work Begins: Repairs and Odd Occurrences 04:19 Unsettling Signs: Dogs' Behavior and Strange Noises 07:28 Night of Terror: Unseen Threats 12:24 Desperate Measures: Defending the Cabin 20:54 Morning After: Assessing the Damage 21:58 A Narrow Escape 22:43 Unsettling Discovery 23:41 The Encounter 26:20 A New Story Begins 28:38 Strange Sounds in the Night 33:04 A Terrifying Sight 38:06 The Aftermath 40:24 Final Thoughts and Warnings
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now one of your pudding. I got a string going
on here, something just because my dog. Something killed your dog.
My dog. We're flying through the air over the tree.
I don't know how it did it, Okay, Damn, I'm
really confused. All I saw was my dog coming over
the fence and he was dead. And once you hit
the ground like, I didn't see any cars. All I
saw was my dog coming over the fence. Sat, what
(00:38):
are you putting? We got some wonder or something prowling
around out here? Did you see what it was?
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Or was it was?
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Standing enough? I'm out here looking through the window now
and I don't see anything. I don't want to go outside. Jesus, Quice,
you better New York. Hello, get somebody out here. Quinn
on out there. I thought of a bit just about
tick nine. I don't know easy out there. Yeah, I'm
right head.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Oh greetings, thanks for joining me. What I wanted to
share with you today comes from Joseph and Monty. It's
been about twenty five years since this incident occurred. I
got warn you those who are sensitive to animals being
injured in anyway, I would suggest that you just enjoy
that intruance. Stop it here Joseph and Monty. They were
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doing a favor for one of their family members.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
The family still has a cabin.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
I was asked not to share the exact location, but
we'll say it's in the Yukon cusc Quem Delta. That's
a vast area. I don't want to burn anyone up
or anything like that. What they were doing was basically,
this was an old trapping cabin. It was used sometimes
for fishing, but it was a little further away from
this particular river. The salmon returns weren't what they used
(02:02):
to be. It was in disrepair and they needed a
new root. Joseph and Monty decided they heard talk one
of their uncles was going to do it and got
a bunch of supplies out there, and just for whatever
reason they didn't know, he just stopped working on it
and left. So they're just like, okay, without any context
to why their uncle quit. Joseph and Monty decided that
(02:23):
it was pretty late in fall. All their other stuff
was done and they had a good three solid weeks
to get everything just tip top and back in working
order so people can make use of it. This cabin,
because from what they were saying, it was a nice
little spot. It was tuck back away from the river.
It was in this meadow like area.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
It was just nice. It was a real beautiful spot
to be. They get out there, they had to take
a skiff.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Up the river, and when they got there, their uncle
had transported an old three wheeler up there. Three wheeler
was operational. They got there and it was an old
Honda two hundred. They fired that up and it was running.
Us a three wheeler to take what supplies they had
back over to the cabin first, they of course armed.
They take stuff over, and they had three dogs with them.
(03:08):
These were retired sled dogs. They were not old, but
they were older dogs, been around the village for a
long time whatever. So they took the three dogs. The
dogs just followed them, doing their thing. One of them
ran ahead of them, and two were just trailing behind,
looking around, smelling stuff whatever. They get up to the
cab and they noticed that the front part there was
(03:29):
a new basically gable end on the front that their
uncle had started on the roof was nowhere near complete.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
The ridge line was halfway.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
But again, it had been a while since the uncle
had been there, and things weren't quare and true, and
so they get there, they're looking around, and they weren't
checking the area around them as much because it's pretty
wide open, a lot of tundra and small brush willows
and stuff. They weren't overly concerned because the dogs weren't
making any kind of like serious racket or anything, and
their dogs weren't doing anything squirrely, so they were just
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focusing on what they're seeing. They go inside, it was
just pretty saturated in there, and so they were like,
they didn't want to the cleaning of the inside without
a roof on it.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
So they decided, we'll just set up our canvas tent.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
We will work out of the tent and get the
roof on, then we'll worry about the inside. For the
first four or five days, it was from daylight to
damn near sundown that they were plugging away. They got
the new roof on in that time. They laid out
the asphalt paper and everything they're doing. They were trying
to figure out a place, and we're going to go
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and cut tundra, big squares of tundra and just put
the tundra up on top of there, on top of
the asphalt paper and stuff. Because they had already heavy
duty VisQueen and the asphalt paper across the trusses they built.
It was coming along because basically it was dried in,
but it wasn't the full roof wasn't complete because they
were going to use the tundra. They had the full
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roof on there, and so they were doing some of
the repairs inside, trying to get all the mucket out
and just get things in order because again it was
in disrepair, damn near dilapidated. They were just doing all
the I wouldn't say minor because he said it's pretty involved.
But Joseph and Monty, those three dogs, they alerted it
on a porcupine, so they knew the dogs were doing
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their things. So they were relaxed per se because they
had loaded weapons ready. They had thirty out six and
at three hundred wind meg. They kept them lean up
against the wall wherever they went. If they went outside,
they grabbed the rifle, came out with it, had it
right nearby, and again they were counting on these dogs
early alarm system, early warning. So they're doing some work
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on the outside and all of a sudden they're focused
on the work and realize that they're tripping over the dogs.
They're like, come on, move because typically they only got
under their feet when it was time to eat. Joseph,
he looked at his watches, it's what the hell, and
he started paying attention to the dog's demeanor, and all
three of them were like piddling themselves and just they
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were honkered down as close to the cabin in them
as possible. So him and Manty see the same thing
at the same time, and they start looking around. They
couldn't see anything outright, but it was not intangible to
see why are these dogs acting like because they never
act like that, even with the bear. So Joseph grabbed
a rifle and Monty automatically grabbed his rifle too, And
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Monty had a forty four magnum on his hip. From
what Joseph said, he had a three point fifty seven
on his hip. So he goes and stands on top
of the three wheeler to get a little heighth and
get a better view. And they had a ladder on
the back side of the cabin because they were on
the sidewall and the backside was just around the corner.
So Manty went up the ladder and got a little
higher view and was looking around, wasn't seeing anything. Monty's rifle.
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He had a scope that was a three hundred win
mag had it. I think it was a three by
nine or nine x twelve something like that scope. He's
just scoping area, just getting a better view. Joseph had
at thirty out six with the open sites, they weren't
seeing anything when they were looking around. They went the
other direction, looking around everywhere at three sixty and they're
not seeing anything, and by this time the dogs were gone.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
They're like, what the hell?
Speaker 2 (07:07):
So they went looking for the dogs and they had
scurried inside the cabin. Two went in the cabin, one
went in the wall tent, the canvas tent, and they're
trying to figure what the hell because there was nothing tangible,
There was no odors, nothing to go by.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
So they're like, this is weird.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
It was so weird that they stopped all work for
two days try to figure out why these dogs would
not stop cowering and acting weird. They were so creeped
out that they decided to move camp into the cabin.
And what they did is for temporary purposes because the
woodstove in there needed a new stove pipe to go
up through the ceiling that they had the roof that
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they had not completed yet, so they took the woodstove
from the wall tent a little small portable one, brought
it in there and just made a homemade makeshift hole
through the plastic so they can have heat. Now, this
is an incomplete roof. It's not fully structural any means yet.
Because they had to put on some more pruins across
and some other stuff before they did the tundra whatever
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style they were using it working carpentry. Some of the
stuff sounded backwards, but again everyone does their own thing.
They get all stuff situated in this cabin because it's
a little more better walls and stuff, and it was
getting on in the dark. The one thing about the
cabin door that needed to be fixed was the door.
It just warped over time and the weather and all that,
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so it wasn't fully shutting. It would shut, but it
wasn't fully sealed, so it was one of the things
I had to redo. But at least it shut. It
just was warped a little bit, so it was no
big deal. They had the little woodstoves kept it warming there.
That night when they went to sleep. They ended up
hearing way off in the distance this horrendous scream. They
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could tell it was a long distance away. He was
guessing miles away, but it was loud, loud enough it
was like startled them enough where they grabbed guns. And
they were standing there, and this happened just as they
were getting ready to go to bed, so they still
had the lantern on. So what they did was they
got their flashlights near by them, put some stuff in
front of the door, just as an early warning system
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or whatever, because the dogs weren't making any freaking noise
at all.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
None.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
And he said, that's unusual because these retired sled dogs
they were always usually yapping at each other and just
being squirrely dogs. It was concerning, say least. So they
stacked a bunch of stuff up against by the door.
They stayed back by the back corner from there was
basically nothing inside at this point except the woodstove, okay,
some of their tools to keep out of the weather
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and stuff, and a few of the building supplies that
were left over, some two by four and some other stuff.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
But that was all stacked away neatly.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
So when you go in the door, he said, the
wood stove would have been to the far back corner
to the right, and they set up right in the
back corner to the left, and they basically sat up
leaning against the walls. He said he woke up after
SI and there for so long he just dozed off
from just being exhausted days of work and all that stuff.
He said he was woken up by it sounded like
(10:08):
a shudder of like banging wood, like something was trying
to come in the door. So immediately he opened his eyes,
turned on the flashlight and didn't see anything. By then,
Monty's standing, Joseph still sitting on the ground as they're
focused on the door. Right behind Joseph's head, there was
just a horrendous boom, and he felt it in his
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back because he wasn't leaning his head back against Walt,
just his back of the shoulders. It startled him, he said,
it startled him so bad. He leaped so quickly, and
it happened so fast. He was damn near had his
back to the door at that point, pointing his rifle
back and Manty had just turned around a couple of
steps and was pointing in that direction, and the stump
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would randomly every so often bang on the outside of
his place. They don't know what to do. They don't
want to shoot. They don't have any target at this point,
but they're concerned. Is this roof isn't complete and whatever's
banging that hard could potentially come through the roof. They're
looking all over. They felt unsafe. So as that's going on,
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the adrenaline is pumping.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
He said.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
It was about seven to ten minutes roughly of the
random banging, but it was continuous, but it was random.
It wasn't like every second there's a bang here and
a bang there and nothing like that. But there'd be
a bang over this side, then a bang over here.
And he got the feeling like they're being distracted from something.
So he whispered to Monty, keeping on the door, and
(11:33):
I'll pay attention to the sounds.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
So Monty got off.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
He was facing the door and this offset to the
left had the rifle ready about just enough distance back
to where he had time to react. This cabin, from
what he said, was about fourteen feet sixteen feet wide
by maybe twenty twenty four roughly. The walls from what
he said were roughly seven foot where they topped off,
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they were eight.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Foot originally, he said, settling over the years.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Ever, so as Manty's facing the door, Joseph is just
following the sounds around when they would happen. He said,
After about sevent ten minutes of regularly banging, all that
noise stopped.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
And then they were hearing this weird noise.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
They heard something messing with the tar, paper and the
plastic at one corner, which was just offset from the
door where Monty was stacking, so he pointed his rifle
up that way.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Now it wasn't light.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
It was dark out and they were trying to minimize
use of light, so they weren't marking where they were
in there.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
They didn't know what was going on.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
They didn't know if it was some weirdo in the
wood's going to kill him or anything. Now they've heard
of the hairy Man, but it was always in stories
about old days and stuff like that, so it wasn't
really something they thought it was a concern. So we
when hearing this noise from the asphalt, paper and stuff,
they heard one of the perlins being pried up from
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the roof.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Right. It was being pushed with so much force.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
At that front gable an they could hear the nails
creaking and starting to pull out.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
So Manty shoots through the corner, just up and.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Out, not through the wall, but up through to where
he could shoot out the plastic and asphalt paper. Instantly,
their ears are just mean ringing hard, and he goes quiet.
Joseph was startled to shit because he wasn't expecting Manty
to shoot, but what else was he going to do.
He wasn't mad at him, he was just startled from it.
So they're walking in the circle, back to back, and
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again the dogs are just quiet.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Down off to the sides, out of the way. They
hear this noise.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
It sounds like the suspension of the three wheeler, and
they're like, oh shit, And all of a sudden it
gets real, real quiet, and again their ears are ringing,
so some of the noises are obscured and they can't
fully make it out. But there's activity happening. They hear
the collapse of that canvas tent. It sounds like it's
something's being drug off, so they're assuming it got knocked
down and something's dragging it away. It's dark. They don't
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know what they're dealing with. They didn't want to run
out there, and so it was quiet again. They hear
the suspension of that old three wheeler again. It was
like a creaking old suspension, like someone was bouncing on
that kind of thing. And then all of a sudden,
it goes quiet again for a brief moment, and then bam.
So the three wheeler was thrown onto the outside just
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where the new trusses were on top of the wall.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
It banged up in there.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
It was thrown with such force that the front tier
of the three wheeler was hooked over the wall.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
In between two of the trusses.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
So now they're really freaked out because a human ain't
gonna throw that, and bears don't have thumbs to grip
it and throw it like that. It was getting hectic.
The dogs at this point started just squallering. They weren't
howling or growling. It was like they were getting beat.
They could barely hear themselves talk because the dogs were
losing it as they were talking. They had a small
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generator a gent set that they were using for their
skill sew when they were cutting everything, and it was
in a wall tent they was stored out there because
it had a small gas leak or whatever. And they
didn't want it inside the cabin breathing the fumes and whatnot.
All of a sudden, that thing is thrown out the
front door, and stay tuned for more sasquatch out to sea.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
We'll be right back after these messages.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
And it destroyed half of the front door. If they
hadn't piled that stuff up, the little generator would have
been right in the middle of the floor. But it
hit with such force that it stayed outside because of
the stuff they had piled up against the door. But
it broke the door in half, and the top half
just didn't fully fall away, but it was exposing outside
pitch black out there. So now they're like shit. So
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now they got the flashlights looking out the hole. They
don't know what they're gonna basically do as they're trying
to decide, because it's chaotic, what are we going to do?
Speaker 3 (15:46):
What are we going to do?
Speaker 2 (15:48):
This is an old style cabin, so it's not a
tall door. It was like maybe five and a half
six foot. You got to duck down to go in
and out right, So as they're discussing what to do,
the dogs are still squally like loud. They're trying to
shut them up, back them up by the wood stove,
keep them back, and all their ties they had for him.
They had little runners and stuff for him, but it
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was attached to the wall tent, and they don't know
where the how that is.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
It's in the freaking dark.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
So he said, when you go out the front door,
there's a pretty wide path grass and tundra and stuff
that leads back down towards the river.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
But then there you got a tree line you gotta
go through.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Then roughly not quite one hundred yards of tree line
and black spruce and stuff. Then you get to the
near the river bank, and then you go down a
little ways and that's where their skiff was. So he's
sitting there trying to figure out what are we going
to do because obviously something is pissed off and actively
attacking the cabin. So as they're sitting there trying to
figure out how to keep the dogs from yammering and
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all this other shit, one of the dogs takes off
and basically climbs the pile of stuff on this side
that leaps out the broken door and takes off into
the dark. Within seconds, he said, it was like everything
was happening, so quick. He didn't go one with thousand
and two, nothing like that, but he said it was
within seconds they heard that dog done ended, They're like shit.
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The other two dogs they stopped squalling. They just hunkered
down and were just basically terrified as low to the
ground as they could get. So Manty decides, boom, He
just shoots another shot, just out into the dark, just
to let him know we're gonna shoot. Joseph came up
beside him. He shot around out the door. They both
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had chambered another round as they chambered the other round,
and then they backed up away from the door and
then offset from it because they didn't want to be
in direct sight of the open doorway because they're a
little closer to it. Joseph said, as they were whispering
to each other, what are we going to do?
Speaker 3 (17:50):
What do we do with this?
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Unfortunately, it threw the dog back in through the door,
and then the dog was not recognizable as a dog.
It was just a furry, bloody, pulpy mess. So now
looking at that kind of even shot like holy shit.
So they back up more and then they go back
into the corner where they were because they have nowhere
to go. The freaking three wheelers hanging off by his
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front tire on the side of the freaking cabin doors,
busted dogs dead. So they basically just squatted down and
were just sitting there, just waiting for something else to happen.
He said, he's not sure how much time it passed,
but it was between fifteen twenty minutes roughly, and again
chaotic mind and terrorized.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
It could be a.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Little off, a little warped, but he said as they
were sitting there being quiet, Manty was not turning the
flashlight off from staring out the hole in the door
because that was the last active area of shit going on.
They started hearing this weird. He tried to imitate it,
but it was a half call, like oh ah, like that,
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just over and over. It started and it was moving around.
And what's scared dam is the walls were roughly seven
foot They could hear it above. It wasn't coming through
the wall, it was coming through the roof. This noise
as this thne moved around. So when it started, it
was just off side of the door. They're facing the door.
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It was just off to the right where it started
and came around, went all the way around and they decided,
they're whispering to each other when that noise comes to
the front, we're going to shoot through that hole in
the door as it come around. All of a sudden,
it went quiet, and then it went dead quiet nothing.
They had three different flashlights, right. The problem is all
their spare batteries and shit was in that other canvas tent,
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so they were conserving battery power, so they'd switched between flashlights.
After a few minutes, Manty put on his work gloves,
grabbed the carcass of the dog and flung it back
out the door because he just couldn't look at it.
Once he did that, and backed away from the door
and was getting the front stuff off the gloves and
just took him off and dropped them off the side
and picked up his rifle again and joined Joseph back
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in that corner. They said, within another maybe thirty minutes,
that or started again, and it was moving faster. It
just kept going around faster and faster. And then there's
a second one. They heard off in the distance, making
an identical call, but in a different tone, different pitch,
and it was coming that direction. That's when they really
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started freaking out. Joseph said that at this point they
were in tears, terrified.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
They didn't know what to do.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
So as this is going on, he said, it was
a bit chaotic, which man I could totally relate to.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
The noise is moving so fast that every.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Time they're trying to time to shoot it through the
hole in the door, they just the timing was right
to waste around. They had limited ammunition on them because
the rest of it was out in the canvas tent,
and they couldn't account for that. They couldn't have ever
thought that this shit would be happening to where they
would need one hundred round amo or whatever. So they
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wanted to wait and conserve until they could have an
actual target because again, I haven't even seen what's been doing.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
This yet, he said. At the time, he just out there. Monsters.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
His words were, monsters are real. They kept telling Monty,
Monsters are real. This goes on for a while, so
there's two of these things making noises this wah wah.
One would be running around here, so it was like
synchronized wanh wah wah wah.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
He said.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
It was the damnedest thing. They were feeling. The impacts
on the ground at the same time, but it was
so fast. He was like, it was scary fast. So
finally they just decided, Okay, we're just gonna try to
time it the best we can and fire a couple
rounds out that that broken door Monty misfired first. When
they were waiting, boom, he fires a shot. It got quiet,
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but the running around was still going, and then a
brief moment later it started again.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
This wanh wah wah, this weird sound.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Joseph was elbowing him and using hand finger signs one, two, three,
and then they in unison shut boom.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
A little while later.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
It didn't stop the running around or anything, but he
said within a couple moments it sounded like they felt
and heard them moving away through the brush. He said
they felt it more and heard it because with the
rounds going off, their ears were ringing pretty good. Things
calmed down and things get dead quiet. Now as they
were calming down, they were having a little pow out.
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It started getting the light on the horizon, so they
felt better. Daylight's coming, so they just sat there quiet waiting.
They were shivering from the shock. They were trembling. He said,
it wasn't cold in the cabin because it was well
heated from that little woodstove and the fresh new roof
and stuff outside of the door being a little tacoled
originally or whatever, it was holding heat just fine. They
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were just trembling from the fear in the shock as
they were discussing, we're not going to unhook that, or
maybe we could try. They didn't know how damaged it was,
and they weren't trying to hang out. Take the three
wheeler down if they could and assess damages and work
on it.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
Yeah, that wasn't in the caruards. They did decide they
would attempt.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
One would push the tire from the inside up and
over because it was just hooked over.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Like a hangar hook.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
The other one would hold the back end and just
try to guide it down or whatever. So as they
were doing that, once it got light enough and they
could look around and see that there was nothing immediately around,
that's what they did. Fortunately, it worked out just right
to where they were able to free it. Landed tipped over,
but it was an all two hundred. They just flipped
it right over. Manty flipped it over. Some of the
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gas spill and all that kind of stuff, but he
wiped it up real quick. As Joseph came out and
was standing guarden, it fired up. They're like, okay, great,
so they go look around. The wall tent had no
floor to it. It was just a wall tent, and
then you put rocks down along the edges to keep
it from anything blown under or whatever. And fortunately the
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one bag that had all the extra AMMO was still there.
There was another survival bag still there. They grabbed those bags,
fired up the wheel. They were just about to start
taking off and they noticed tracks in the mud. They
went over to see what the hell was this and
it was huge, he said, it had to have been
about twenty to twenty two inch track, and it looked
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just like a human track, just big and wide, and
it was deep impression in the mud. The two dogs
that were still remaining, they were petrified to come out,
but they weren't going to leave them there considering what
happened to the one. So what they did was is
they got those leads. One was strung up through the
brush where because they never saw the tent again, it
was just gone wherever it was drug off to.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
They didn't go looking for it. It was just gone.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
They were able to get the leads one lead, and
they used a rope basically leased them up. Once they
were released up and they were moving away, the dogs
didn't have to be dragged as kept up. The dogs
were just petrified the whole time. Tails tucked asked in
being dragged, but they were trying to move. They were
trying to fight the urge to speed, and they also
didn't want to strangle the dogs, but they couldn't hold
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them because Joseph was holding the rifle a month he
was driving. They wanted to be able to protect themselves.
So they get through. And when they get over this
tree line, it's still early enough in the morning, it's daylight,
but the treel like pitch black steel, and woods are dark.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
They stopped and they had the creeps.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
They didn't want to go into the dark woods, but
the skiff is that way, right, so Monti goes, just
get ready if we have to well drag the dogs.
We got to get through here. The trail this is
just a slight s curve. It wasn't nothing horrible. It
wasn't a bunch of roots where they had to slow down.
They could keep a pretty decent clip within reason. But
they didn't want to. Monty falls started about five times
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because there was still about twenty yards from the opening
of the trailer in of the woods. And I'm not
laughing at him. I totally could understand the apprehension. Finally,
after the five or so false starts, montaguez, I'm going
for real this time.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
Just started going. As they went around the.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
First kind of bend in the curve of the trail
occurs off to the left. Monty saw one of these
things watching them, just standing there, and Joseph's last second
swung the rifle boom and fired that shot right hillatious scream.
He doesn't think he hit it, but it was right there.
He said, it was within fifteen feet. Here's the scream,
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and Monty freaks out because it was right there. This
huge being was just standing right there, and he hits
a throttle. Well, they had the dogs attached still basically
right this and grabbed one of them. Hilacious noise made,
and they just kept going and the other dog was
motivated to run. Okay, it was actually Joseph was trying
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to hold his rifle. He had chambered another round, but
he was using his right hand to keep the line
out of wrapping under the tire because the dog was
passing them right. It was chaos. They got through the
tree line out to the other side. They're freaking out.
So there's a couple of cutbaks right one. It was
where they thought the skiff was. So when they got
up to the first little area, there's no skiff and
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they're freaking out right because they had jumped off the wheeler.
They're looking around and Mantia was like, no, over there.
He just saw the part of the outboard the grass away.
It was hanging over the edge of the river bank.
So they run over there. Dog jumped right in. They
jumped in, dropped kicker, fired it up, and got out
of there. This approximately twenty five years ago. My heart
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rate's gone just thinking about it, because being in a
situation like that where there was absolutely nothing you can do.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
There's nothing. What are you gonna do? Run?
Speaker 2 (27:28):
You're to run away. You're gonna call someone that ain't happening.
Monsters are real. Care what anyone believes is irrelevant. Be
aware in the woods. Don't take shit for granted. Just
be aware. What I wanted to share with you today
comes from Cannie and Michael.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
Some retirees.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
It had retired the year before COVID hit SOS roughly
twenty nineteen that summer season.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
Now they were up.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
They were visiting some of their friends they've known forever
who happened to live in Seward at the time. Went down,
came out in the town, came in the anchorage, went
down to Seward visiting with the friends.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
Their friends had just acquired a boat.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
They weren't the best navigator at sea, but they had
all the technology to guide them around, do their thing
and all that happy stuff when it comes to being
safe on the boat. So Cannith and Michael they retired
from the medical field. Both of them were doctors at
one point, and then got into basically consulting work for
a little while after and decided, hey, let's live life.
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Let's retire and go and see these places we think about.
Now they're with their friends, and their friends have a
thirty foot boat. Nice boat and again not the best
with it, but they all lived as far as the
boat trip itself. So what they did is they left
Seward beautiful day, sunny, and they just started heading southeast,
just hugging the coast, just sightseeing, just enjoying it. They
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said they weren't really paying attention, but about two and
a half three hours outside of Seward, basically just riding
the coast, they watched their water levels and they just
at going around, watching the sea life and everything, the
marine mammals having one hell of a good time. They
came up to a point to where they saw there's
gonna be weather and they decided they're going to head back,
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and so on their way back, they decide, let's just
go past Seward and we'll go down further along that
way and outrun the storm basically and look at more
of the coast.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
They were on a boat.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
They could sleep on it, it was seaworthy, and if
need be, they figured they'd pull into.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
A nice safe cove.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Now they're new to Alaska, and so their friends that
lived here or lived in Seward at the time, and
they were going by their GPS little navigation tool on
deep water, shallow water, shipping lanes, stuff like that. So
what they decided to do is the storm was catching
up sooner, so they pulled into a nice little bay
that would have been pretty much kept them out of
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the rough seas of the storm that was coming.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
So they're there overnight. They're having a great time.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Stay tuned for more sasquatch out to sea.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
We'll be right back after the east messages.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Once they anchored out, everything was safe and everything. Everyone
enjoying some beverages and they end up going to bed.
They're all woken up the next morning by what they
think is some kind of siren.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
They don't know what the hell.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
It is, but it's coming from shore and they're like,
was that a tsunami siren or some kind because again
they'd never heard anything like it before. It was just loud,
and they said it started low and it ended up
high pitch, kind of like an air raid siren. So
they sat there for a minute and they're like, that's
a damned stain. And then they heard what they thought
was a woman being murdered. Okay, they're approximately one hundred
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and fifty yards offshore in Avadmi, so Michael and his
friend will call him Spencer. Spencer of course, fresh to Alaska,
he had just acquired himself a four to fifty four
custle handgun in a twelve gage shotgun, because again, living
in the last you got to be prepared and all
that for bearers whatever. So Michael and Spencer. They dropped
the little dinghy boat, the little runabout, throw the little
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four horse kicker on there, fire it up. Michael and
Spencer bline it to shore to go and help this woman.
They get to shore, and you got understand, the way
the waves were hitting was just pushing them in, so
banged up their outboard a little bit.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
I know this one all too well.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
So anyway, so Spencer kicks it up, finally gets it
to stay in position. Kicked up out of the water,
the waves are pushing them against shore, so they take
the opportunity to hop out their line tied off to
this big rock that happened to be there. Michael had
the shotgun, never shot one before in his life. Spencer
had only shot the two new guns he had because
he just got them and made sure they worked. Neither
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one claimed to be a marksman, neither one claimed to
be an outdoorsman.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
So let's not be too hard.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
On these guys, because they just they're trying to go
and say what they thought was a woman being murdered.
They get up and I guess the shoreline there's a tidebreak,
high water mark, whatever I'm gonna call it, and then
there's a bank, and then they're just looking in there
and it's dark and it's thick with brush all through,
and they still hear the scream again coming and it
sounds like it's just inside the tree line.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
So they're like, man, we got to move.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
They have handheld radio for the two ladies at the boat,
so in case they're on standby the radio for help.
But again they didn't know. They didn't know if it
was domestic or anything. And because they were right there,
they felt compelled and being in the medical field, let's
go see if a woman hiker is hurt and take
it from there.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
Let's assess situation and move from there.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
They move into the tree line and it's a bitch
to get through, but once they punch through, it's fairly open.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
It's just that brush line along the shore.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
It could be pretty dense, but once you get in
there you can get moving around and it's spongy, mossy.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
It's like an enchanted.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
World because of the old girl timbers and the moss
everywhere and stuff. It just looked like something from Lord
of the Rings. Started hearing like something from Lord of
the Rings. Well, and so they're moving towards this sound,
and they're both looking at each other. Spencer seemed very
nervous from what Michael was saying, and kept stopping and
looking at Michael, just looking for any queue to get
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the hell out of there. But Michael was just like,
it's that way. The just retired from being a doctor.
He wanted to go and check it out. They're just
coming up over this little ridge and they're handheld radio
squawks to life. It's Candice and Spencer's wife. We haven't
heard from you away, we haven't heard from you. We've
radioed the coast guard.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
Fine.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
It scared the crap out of them right. Spencer asked,
what did you report? Strange screams? Okay did you give
a low case? And she said, I read off the
numbers asked for on the GPS. Okay, stand by, we're
still looking. We're still investigating. She was like, be careful,
and he turned down the radio because not off, but
down because it was wide open. So when they chimed
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in it startled the crap out of them. It was
during this time where he was radioing back and forth Michael,
because Spencer was focused on radio.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
Michael hears movement off over this ridge.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
They're just about to crest it and be able to
get a better view, and Michael points as soon as
Spencer turns down the radio and adjusts it in his
vest and gets a better hold of his gun, and
he points. And so they get up to the top
of this ridge, and when they're looking down, they're not
seeing anything, okay, And it's fairly open. These are big
old growth trees. There's rushing stuff, but they're not seeing
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anything that looks like a struggle, looks like a woman
around screaming or anything. Michael said, the hair stood up
on the back of his neck, and Spencer held up
his arm and his hair was standing up on his arm,
and they both looked at each other and shook their heads.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
Nah.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
And just then, out of the corner of his eye,
Michael noticed one of the big old growth trees about
fifty feet away. Something big and dark moved back behind him,
threw him off, and he looked. He didn't see anything,
didn't see anything, mentioned it to Spencer. Spencer comes past him,
comes around him, and again they're up on this ridge.
It's going rising an elevation off to their right and
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lowering an elevation off to their left, and it's like
a little bit of a gully and a little bit
of a stream that breaks down onto the shoreline down
below him. And they must have gained maybe seventy five
feet in elevation going up to this ridge looking for
this noise. So when Spencer comes around to his right
hand side and is looking in the direction that Michael's
trying to explain to him because he didn't want to
take his eyes off that tree. When Spencer sees it,
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Spencer starts screaming f barms and holy shit and this
and that and just turns around and gone, and michaels.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
What the hell, what the hell? He raises up the shotgun.
He's like, dude, what the hell.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Then Michael sees why because this thing steps out massive.
He said he thought it was a giant in a
gilly suit at first, and he's looking and he's trying
to focus, and this whole time he didn't even realize,
but he's pointing the shotgun right.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
At this thing fifty feet away.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
He said it was downslope from us, but it was
almost as tall as me.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
At fifty feet away.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
He said it had to have been roughly guessing over
ten foot tall, very broad, very muscular looking, but he
couldn't see definition because it was looked like a gilly suit.
And he goes, this thing looked like a mentally challenged
Neanderthal his words, he used different words for it, but
he said it looked like this thing that had some
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kind of down syndrome.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
Maybe. I asked him. I was like, can you clarify?
Speaker 2 (36:15):
He goes, it had that look about its face, but
when he focused on it, he could see dark skinned,
he said. I asked about the shade of color, what
have you? And he said it was like a darker gray.
I didn't want to feed him or anything, because I
was going to ask him it feels like a couple
shades darker than what cement type thing, but I let
him explain it in his words, and he just said
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dark gray, not black. And he said he look greasy,
just greasy looking the way the light was and everything.
He could see a little shiny on the face and whatnot,
but he said the eyes were so sunk in and dark.
He couldn't see nothing of the eyes, no whites of
the eyes or anything like that. Now, all this is
happening in milliseconds right because Spencer's already beaten feet. Michael
holding the shotgun, he yells at it, Hey, where's the woman?
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Where's the woman? And he said, as soon as he
said that, this thing turns and walks back past behind
the trees that it was just standing by, and went
into some other tree and gone disappeared. He couldn't make
it out anymore because of the way the vegetation was.
He takes a quick look around. He said, his heart
felt like it wasn't even beaten that whole entire time.
Turns around and by this time he hears the outboard
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on the little skiff. Spencer's down there with all his
might trying to fire this thing up.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
So he runs down.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
He said he felt a couple times he heard noises,
would turn around and was holding the shotgun, and he
realized once they got clear of everything, that he's glad
he didn't have to shoot that shotgun because one of
the times he felt it dug in and hole punched
into the moss, and he said there was at least
six eight inches of the first eight inches of that
barrel was plugged with moss and crap. So he gets
down the shore spencer has the outboard still out of
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the water and trying to fire it up. But he's
going to burn it up, right, So Michael gets down
there and tries to get him calmed down. He says,
hold on, I'll push us out. Get in there, lower
it and do your thing. I was like, man for
being startled with that realization of that, you seem to
hold it together pretty good. And he was like he
was able to compartmentalize and stay in the moment even
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though it was real high stress. Finally Spencer got it
fired up and Michael was trying to put the shotgun in.
Of course, trying to jump up into this little dingy
is like ten foot and he's trying to jump in
it as Spencer's trying to back away from him, right,
So he's hold on, hey, you got soap them wet,
and finally got himself up. Spencer just turned and bee
lines it straight back to the boat.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
Comes in hot.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
He didn't even barely let off the throttle when they're
getting close, because Spencer could not get the hell out
of there fast enough. It was to the point where
as they were coming in closer to the boat, Michael
said he was putting his foot up bracing for the
impact of it, and I was like, damn, I get it.
Speaker 4 (38:45):
Though.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
You don't knock again, Spencer. That's jarring shit. But there's
also panic and safety protocol. They don't ever line up,
they just don't.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
They beg into the boat.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
Spencer's off that little dingy, didn't even kill the outboard nothing.
The radio was there, his pistol was right there on
the seat, and he was in firing up the big boat.
And Michael realized, I need to get this shit out
of here because he's going to freaking leave me here.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
So he gets up there.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
Spencer's wife's trying to calm him down, and Cannas is
talking to Michael. Michael's trying to say, hey, there's a giant.
They're talking about it. It's chaotic because Spencer's talking to
his wife, Michael's trying to talk to Candace. It's just
a whirlwind of chaotic chatter. Michael said that he finally
calmed Spencer down. Spencer was like, what happened? I thought
it was going to get you. He goes no, because
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all this happened real fast, him yelling at it walking away.
Did this all happen within seconds?
Speaker 4 (39:36):
Right?
Speaker 3 (39:37):
He got Spencer calm down.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
They had radio coast guard saying, hey, we had radioed
in this call for a screaming woman and commenced to
share what I just shared with you. He said that
it was very strange because it came back something be
advised to stay within the area, gain a certain distance
from shore and wait, someone was coming or something. So
they pulled anchor they went for They're out doing as
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they were told for a little bit. Then he said
a little while later they were radioed back and this
is on channel sixteen. I don't know if there's any
records of it, but he said they told him to
vacate the area, leave the area and ask for everyone's name,
type of thing, vote number, all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
They said that someone would follow up with them at
a later time. Did all that They get out of there.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
Now, the conditions weren't the best because the wind was
blowing and stuff like that, and so once they got
out in the deeper water, the swells were bigger. Everyone
was seasick. They basically bowled down to Michael following the
gauges and the instrumentation to get them back to seward
and whatnot. He said the way back was a very
long ride because he didn't know what he was doing.
He was scared to death that the boat was going
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to tip. When you're a novice, you don't know any better.
So that was the chorten end of itself, he said.
They get back there when they're pulling in. Finally, Spencer
had calmed down enough where he took over the controls
to dock up and everything.
Speaker 3 (40:58):
They had calmed down enough.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
So they end up gathering everything off the boat and
going back to their friend's house where they were staying.
And they were all sitting there, dead quiet for two hours,
he said, sitting around that table until Spencer finally opened up.
And Spencer's not his real name. Spencer opened up and goes,
that thing looked at me. Michael was like, it looked
at me as well, and he goes, when it looked
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at me, this is Spencer talking. He said, when it
looked at me, it looked at my soul, and I
felt it. Michael was taken back because he didn't get
that same feeling. But again, he wasn't Spencer, he said.
His friend making that comment really stuck with him through
the last five six years, that he looked at his soul.
He was like, looking back on it. It showed no
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aggression towards us. All it did was it looked and
then vacated the area. It wasn't like it stocked to
try to get them. Well, that's one of the things.
These encounters are so random like that. I have people
ask me all the time, where would be a good
place a good chance of running into something? I'm like,
even if I knew, I wouldn't necessarily be telling somebody
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anything like that, because man, that's a huge liability. I
don't want to think about it. I advise against it.
It only sounds like you want to have an encounter.
It only seems like you do. But once you do,
there's certain things you can't undo. Just be careful what
you wish for. I want to thank Michael and Candace
for reaching out to share.
Speaker 3 (42:25):
I want to thank you guys for joining me. We'll
catch you soon here.
Speaker 4 (42:27):
On the next one, they say, you don't gotta go home,
but you can't stay. I don't want to be.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
We're all out.
Speaker 4 (42:43):
Its joy, this job, that chime, Everything came right back, crying.
Speaker 3 (43:12):
Back, joy for me, Joy, staying right.
Speaker 4 (43:18):
You come it right away, still stay step stay step still,
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donnock down doss still stasssst used these pass
Now one of your pudding. I got a string going
on here, something just because my dog. Something killed your dog.
My dog. We're flying through the air over the tree.
I don't know how it did it, Okay, Damn, I'm
really confused. All I saw was my dog coming over
the fence and he was dead. And once you hit
the ground like, I didn't see any cars. All I
saw was my dog coming over the fence. Sat, what
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are you putting? We got some wonder or something prowling
around out here? Did you see what it was?
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Or was it was?
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Standing enough? I'm out here looking through the window now
and I don't see anything. I don't want to go outside. Jesus, Quice,
you better New York. Hello, get somebody out here. Quinn
on out there. I thought of a bit just about
tick nine. I don't know easy out there. Yeah, I'm
right head.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Oh greetings, thanks for joining me. What I wanted to
share with you today comes from Joseph and Monty. It's
been about twenty five years since this incident occurred. I
got warn you those who are sensitive to animals being
injured in anyway, I would suggest that you just enjoy
that intruance. Stop it here Joseph and Monty. They were
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doing a favor for one of their family members.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
The family still has a cabin.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
I was asked not to share the exact location, but
we'll say it's in the Yukon cusc Quem Delta. That's
a vast area. I don't want to burn anyone up
or anything like that. What they were doing was basically,
this was an old trapping cabin. It was used sometimes
for fishing, but it was a little further away from
this particular river. The salmon returns weren't what they used
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to be. It was in disrepair and they needed a
new root. Joseph and Monty decided they heard talk one
of their uncles was going to do it and got
a bunch of supplies out there, and just for whatever
reason they didn't know, he just stopped working on it
and left. So they're just like, okay, without any context
to why their uncle quit. Joseph and Monty decided that
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it was pretty late in fall. All their other stuff
was done and they had a good three solid weeks
to get everything just tip top and back in working
order so people can make use of it. This cabin,
because from what they were saying, it was a nice
little spot. It was tuck back away from the river.
It was in this meadow like area.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
It was just nice. It was a real beautiful spot
to be. They get out there, they had to take
a skiff.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Up the river, and when they got there, their uncle
had transported an old three wheeler up there. Three wheeler
was operational. They got there and it was an old
Honda two hundred. They fired that up and it was running.
Us a three wheeler to take what supplies they had
back over to the cabin first, they of course armed.
They take stuff over, and they had three dogs with them.
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These were retired sled dogs. They were not old, but
they were older dogs, been around the village for a
long time whatever. So they took the three dogs. The
dogs just followed them, doing their thing. One of them
ran ahead of them, and two were just trailing behind,
looking around, smelling stuff whatever. They get up to the
cab and they noticed that the front part there was
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a new basically gable end on the front that their
uncle had started on the roof was nowhere near complete.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
The ridge line was halfway.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
But again, it had been a while since the uncle
had been there, and things weren't quare and true, and
so they get there, they're looking around, and they weren't
checking the area around them as much because it's pretty
wide open, a lot of tundra and small brush willows
and stuff. They weren't overly concerned because the dogs weren't
making any kind of like serious racket or anything, and
their dogs weren't doing anything squirrely, so they were just
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focusing on what they're seeing. They go inside, it was
just pretty saturated in there, and so they were like,
they didn't want to the cleaning of the inside without
a roof on it.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
So they decided, we'll just set up our canvas tent.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
We will work out of the tent and get the
roof on, then we'll worry about the inside. For the
first four or five days, it was from daylight to
damn near sundown that they were plugging away. They got
the new roof on in that time. They laid out
the asphalt paper and everything they're doing. They were trying
to figure out a place, and we're going to go
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and cut tundra, big squares of tundra and just put
the tundra up on top of there, on top of
the asphalt paper and stuff. Because they had already heavy
duty VisQueen and the asphalt paper across the trusses they built.
It was coming along because basically it was dried in,
but it wasn't the full roof wasn't complete because they
were going to use the tundra. They had the full
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roof on there, and so they were doing some of
the repairs inside, trying to get all the mucket out
and just get things in order because again it was
in disrepair, damn near dilapidated. They were just doing all
the I wouldn't say minor because he said it's pretty involved.
But Joseph and Monty, those three dogs, they alerted it
on a porcupine, so they knew the dogs were doing
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their things. So they were relaxed per se because they
had loaded weapons ready. They had thirty out six and
at three hundred wind meg. They kept them lean up
against the wall wherever they went. If they went outside,
they grabbed the rifle, came out with it, had it
right nearby, and again they were counting on these dogs
early alarm system, early warning. So they're doing some work
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on the outside and all of a sudden they're focused
on the work and realize that they're tripping over the dogs.
They're like, come on, move because typically they only got
under their feet when it was time to eat. Joseph,
he looked at his watches, it's what the hell, and
he started paying attention to the dog's demeanor, and all
three of them were like piddling themselves and just they
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were honkered down as close to the cabin in them
as possible. So him and Manty see the same thing
at the same time, and they start looking around. They
couldn't see anything outright, but it was not intangible to
see why are these dogs acting like because they never
act like that, even with the bear. So Joseph grabbed
a rifle and Monty automatically grabbed his rifle too, And
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Monty had a forty four magnum on his hip. From
what Joseph said, he had a three point fifty seven
on his hip. So he goes and stands on top
of the three wheeler to get a little heighth and
get a better view. And they had a ladder on
the back side of the cabin because they were on
the sidewall and the backside was just around the corner.
So Manty went up the ladder and got a little
higher view and was looking around, wasn't seeing anything. Monty's rifle.
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He had a scope that was a three hundred win
mag had it. I think it was a three by
nine or nine x twelve something like that scope. He's
just scoping area, just getting a better view. Joseph had
at thirty out six with the open sites, they weren't
seeing anything when they were looking around. They went the
other direction, looking around everywhere at three sixty and they're
not seeing anything, and by this time the dogs were gone.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
They're like, what the hell?
Speaker 2 (07:07):
So they went looking for the dogs and they had
scurried inside the cabin. Two went in the cabin, one
went in the wall tent, the canvas tent, and they're
trying to figure what the hell because there was nothing tangible,
There was no odors, nothing to go by.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
So they're like, this is weird.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
It was so weird that they stopped all work for
two days try to figure out why these dogs would
not stop cowering and acting weird. They were so creeped
out that they decided to move camp into the cabin.
And what they did is for temporary purposes because the
woodstove in there needed a new stove pipe to go
up through the ceiling that they had the roof that
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they had not completed yet, so they took the woodstove
from the wall tent a little small portable one, brought
it in there and just made a homemade makeshift hole
through the plastic so they can have heat. Now, this
is an incomplete roof. It's not fully structural any means yet.
Because they had to put on some more pruins across
and some other stuff before they did the tundra whatever
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style they were using it working carpentry. Some of the
stuff sounded backwards, but again everyone does their own thing.
They get all stuff situated in this cabin because it's
a little more better walls and stuff, and it was
getting on in the dark. The one thing about the
cabin door that needed to be fixed was the door.
It just warped over time and the weather and all that,
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so it wasn't fully shutting. It would shut, but it
wasn't fully sealed, so it was one of the things
I had to redo. But at least it shut. It
just was warped a little bit, so it was no
big deal. They had the little woodstoves kept it warming there.
That night when they went to sleep. They ended up
hearing way off in the distance this horrendous scream. They
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could tell it was a long distance away. He was
guessing miles away, but it was loud, loud enough it
was like startled them enough where they grabbed guns. And
they were standing there, and this happened just as they
were getting ready to go to bed, so they still
had the lantern on. So what they did was they
got their flashlights near by them, put some stuff in
front of the door, just as an early warning system
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or whatever, because the dogs weren't making any freaking noise
at all.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
None.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
And he said, that's unusual because these retired sled dogs
they were always usually yapping at each other and just
being squirrely dogs. It was concerning, say least. So they
stacked a bunch of stuff up against by the door.
They stayed back by the back corner from there was
basically nothing inside at this point except the woodstove, okay,
some of their tools to keep out of the weather
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and stuff, and a few of the building supplies that
were left over, some two by four and some other stuff.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
But that was all stacked away neatly.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
So when you go in the door, he said, the
wood stove would have been to the far back corner
to the right, and they set up right in the
back corner to the left, and they basically sat up
leaning against the walls. He said he woke up after
SI and there for so long he just dozed off
from just being exhausted days of work and all that stuff.
He said he was woken up by it sounded like
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a shudder of like banging wood, like something was trying
to come in the door. So immediately he opened his eyes,
turned on the flashlight and didn't see anything. By then,
Monty's standing, Joseph still sitting on the ground as they're
focused on the door. Right behind Joseph's head, there was
just a horrendous boom, and he felt it in his
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back because he wasn't leaning his head back against Walt,
just his back of the shoulders. It startled him, he said,
it startled him so bad. He leaped so quickly, and
it happened so fast. He was damn near had his
back to the door at that point, pointing his rifle
back and Manty had just turned around a couple of
steps and was pointing in that direction, and the stump
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would randomly every so often bang on the outside of
his place. They don't know what to do. They don't
want to shoot. They don't have any target at this point,
but they're concerned. Is this roof isn't complete and whatever's
banging that hard could potentially come through the roof. They're
looking all over. They felt unsafe. So as that's going on,
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the adrenaline is pumping.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
He said.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
It was about seven to ten minutes roughly of the
random banging, but it was continuous, but it was random.
It wasn't like every second there's a bang here and
a bang there and nothing like that. But there'd be
a bang over this side, then a bang over here.
And he got the feeling like they're being distracted from something.
So he whispered to Monty, keeping on the door, and
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I'll pay attention to the sounds.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
So Monty got off.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
He was facing the door and this offset to the
left had the rifle ready about just enough distance back
to where he had time to react. This cabin, from
what he said, was about fourteen feet sixteen feet wide
by maybe twenty twenty four roughly. The walls from what
he said were roughly seven foot where they topped off,
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they were eight.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Foot originally, he said, settling over the years.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Ever, so as Manty's facing the door, Joseph is just
following the sounds around when they would happen. He said,
After about sevent ten minutes of regularly banging, all that
noise stopped.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
And then they were hearing this weird noise.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
They heard something messing with the tar, paper and the
plastic at one corner, which was just offset from the
door where Monty was stacking, so he pointed his rifle
up that way.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Now it wasn't light.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
It was dark out and they were trying to minimize
use of light, so they weren't marking where they were
in there.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
They didn't know what was going on.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
They didn't know if it was some weirdo in the
wood's going to kill him or anything. Now they've heard
of the hairy Man, but it was always in stories
about old days and stuff like that, so it wasn't
really something they thought it was a concern. So we
when hearing this noise from the asphalt, paper and stuff,
they heard one of the perlins being pried up from
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the roof.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Right. It was being pushed with so much force.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
At that front gable an they could hear the nails
creaking and starting to pull out.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
So Manty shoots through the corner, just up and.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Out, not through the wall, but up through to where
he could shoot out the plastic and asphalt paper. Instantly,
their ears are just mean ringing hard, and he goes quiet.
Joseph was startled to shit because he wasn't expecting Manty
to shoot, but what else was he going to do.
He wasn't mad at him, he was just startled from it.
So they're walking in the circle, back to back, and
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again the dogs are just quiet.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Down off to the sides, out of the way. They
hear this noise.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
It sounds like the suspension of the three wheeler, and
they're like, oh shit, And all of a sudden it
gets real, real quiet, and again their ears are ringing,
so some of the noises are obscured and they can't
fully make it out. But there's activity happening. They hear
the collapse of that canvas tent. It sounds like it's
something's being drug off, so they're assuming it got knocked
down and something's dragging it away. It's dark. They don't
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know what they're dealing with. They didn't want to run
out there, and so it was quiet again. They hear
the suspension of that old three wheeler again. It was
like a creaking old suspension, like someone was bouncing on
that kind of thing. And then all of a sudden,
it goes quiet again for a brief moment, and then bam.
So the three wheeler was thrown onto the outside just
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where the new trusses were on top of the wall.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
It banged up in there.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
It was thrown with such force that the front tier
of the three wheeler was hooked over the wall.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
In between two of the trusses.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
So now they're really freaked out because a human ain't
gonna throw that, and bears don't have thumbs to grip
it and throw it like that. It was getting hectic.
The dogs at this point started just squallering. They weren't
howling or growling. It was like they were getting beat.
They could barely hear themselves talk because the dogs were
losing it as they were talking. They had a small
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generator a gent set that they were using for their
skill sew when they were cutting everything, and it was
in a wall tent they was stored out there because
it had a small gas leak or whatever. And they
didn't want it inside the cabin breathing the fumes and whatnot.
All of a sudden, that thing is thrown out the
front door, and stay tuned for more sasquatch out to sea.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
We'll be right back after these messages.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
And it destroyed half of the front door. If they
hadn't piled that stuff up, the little generator would have
been right in the middle of the floor. But it
hit with such force that it stayed outside because of
the stuff they had piled up against the door. But
it broke the door in half, and the top half
just didn't fully fall away, but it was exposing outside
pitch black out there. So now they're like shit. So
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now they got the flashlights looking out the hole. They
don't know what they're gonna basically do as they're trying
to decide, because it's chaotic, what are we going to do?
Speaker 3 (15:46):
What are we going to do?
Speaker 2 (15:48):
This is an old style cabin, so it's not a
tall door. It was like maybe five and a half
six foot. You got to duck down to go in
and out right, So as they're discussing what to do,
the dogs are still squally like loud. They're trying to
shut them up, back them up by the wood stove,
keep them back, and all their ties they had for him.
They had little runners and stuff for him, but it
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was attached to the wall tent, and they don't know
where the how that is.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
It's in the freaking dark.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
So he said, when you go out the front door,
there's a pretty wide path grass and tundra and stuff
that leads back down towards the river.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
But then there you got a tree line you gotta
go through.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Then roughly not quite one hundred yards of tree line
and black spruce and stuff. Then you get to the
near the river bank, and then you go down a
little ways and that's where their skiff was. So he's
sitting there trying to figure out what are we going
to do because obviously something is pissed off and actively
attacking the cabin. So as they're sitting there trying to
figure out how to keep the dogs from yammering and
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all this other shit, one of the dogs takes off
and basically climbs the pile of stuff on this side
that leaps out the broken door and takes off into
the dark. Within seconds, he said, it was like everything
was happening, so quick. He didn't go one with thousand
and two, nothing like that, but he said it was
within seconds they heard that dog done ended, They're like shit.
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The other two dogs they stopped squalling. They just hunkered
down and were just basically terrified as low to the
ground as they could get. So Manty decides, boom, He
just shoots another shot, just out into the dark, just
to let him know we're gonna shoot. Joseph came up
beside him. He shot around out the door. They both
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had chambered another round as they chambered the other round,
and then they backed up away from the door and
then offset from it because they didn't want to be
in direct sight of the open doorway because they're a
little closer to it. Joseph said, as they were whispering
to each other, what are we going to do?
Speaker 3 (17:50):
What do we do with this?
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Unfortunately, it threw the dog back in through the door,
and then the dog was not recognizable as a dog.
It was just a furry, bloody, pulpy mess. So now
looking at that kind of even shot like holy shit.
So they back up more and then they go back
into the corner where they were because they have nowhere
to go. The freaking three wheelers hanging off by his
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front tire on the side of the freaking cabin doors,
busted dogs dead. So they basically just squatted down and
were just sitting there, just waiting for something else to happen.
He said, he's not sure how much time it passed,
but it was between fifteen twenty minutes roughly, and again
chaotic mind and terrorized.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
It could be a.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Little off, a little warped, but he said as they
were sitting there being quiet, Manty was not turning the
flashlight off from staring out the hole in the door
because that was the last active area of shit going on.
They started hearing this weird. He tried to imitate it,
but it was a half call, like oh ah, like that,
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just over and over. It started and it was moving around.
And what's scared dam is the walls were roughly seven
foot They could hear it above. It wasn't coming through
the wall, it was coming through the roof. This noise
as this thne moved around. So when it started, it
was just off side of the door. They're facing the door.
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It was just off to the right where it started
and came around, went all the way around and they decided,
they're whispering to each other when that noise comes to
the front, we're going to shoot through that hole in
the door as it come around. All of a sudden,
it went quiet, and then it went dead quiet nothing.
They had three different flashlights, right. The problem is all
their spare batteries and shit was in that other canvas tent,
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so they were conserving battery power, so they'd switched between flashlights.
After a few minutes, Manty put on his work gloves,
grabbed the carcass of the dog and flung it back
out the door because he just couldn't look at it.
Once he did that, and backed away from the door
and was getting the front stuff off the gloves and
just took him off and dropped them off the side
and picked up his rifle again and joined Joseph back
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in that corner. They said, within another maybe thirty minutes,
that or started again, and it was moving faster. It
just kept going around faster and faster. And then there's
a second one. They heard off in the distance, making
an identical call, but in a different tone, different pitch,
and it was coming that direction. That's when they really
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started freaking out. Joseph said that at this point they
were in tears, terrified.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
They didn't know what to do.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
So as this is going on, he said, it was
a bit chaotic, which man I could totally relate to.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
The noise is moving so fast that every.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Time they're trying to time to shoot it through the
hole in the door, they just the timing was right
to waste around. They had limited ammunition on them because
the rest of it was out in the canvas tent,
and they couldn't account for that. They couldn't have ever
thought that this shit would be happening to where they
would need one hundred round amo or whatever. So they
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wanted to wait and conserve until they could have an
actual target because again, I haven't even seen what's been doing.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
This yet, he said. At the time, he just out there. Monsters.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
His words were, monsters are real. They kept telling Monty,
Monsters are real. This goes on for a while, so
there's two of these things making noises this wah wah.
One would be running around here, so it was like
synchronized wanh wah wah wah.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
He said.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
It was the damnedest thing. They were feeling. The impacts
on the ground at the same time, but it was
so fast. He was like, it was scary fast. So
finally they just decided, Okay, we're just gonna try to
time it the best we can and fire a couple
rounds out that that broken door Monty misfired first. When
they were waiting, boom, he fires a shot. It got quiet,
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but the running around was still going, and then a
brief moment later it started again.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
This wanh wah wah, this weird sound.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Joseph was elbowing him and using hand finger signs one, two, three,
and then they in unison shut boom.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
A little while later.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
It didn't stop the running around or anything, but he
said within a couple moments it sounded like they felt
and heard them moving away through the brush. He said
they felt it more and heard it because with the
rounds going off, their ears were ringing pretty good. Things
calmed down and things get dead quiet. Now as they
were calming down, they were having a little pow out.
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It started getting the light on the horizon, so they
felt better. Daylight's coming, so they just sat there quiet waiting.
They were shivering from the shock. They were trembling. He said,
it wasn't cold in the cabin because it was well
heated from that little woodstove and the fresh new roof
and stuff outside of the door being a little tacoled
originally or whatever, it was holding heat just fine. They
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were just trembling from the fear in the shock as
they were discussing, we're not going to unhook that, or
maybe we could try. They didn't know how damaged it was,
and they weren't trying to hang out. Take the three
wheeler down if they could and assess damages and work
on it.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
Yeah, that wasn't in the caruards. They did decide they
would attempt.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
One would push the tire from the inside up and
over because it was just hooked over.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Like a hangar hook.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
The other one would hold the back end and just
try to guide it down or whatever. So as they
were doing that, once it got light enough and they
could look around and see that there was nothing immediately around,
that's what they did. Fortunately, it worked out just right
to where they were able to free it. Landed tipped over,
but it was an all two hundred. They just flipped
it right over. Manty flipped it over. Some of the
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gas spill and all that kind of stuff, but he
wiped it up real quick. As Joseph came out and
was standing guarden, it fired up. They're like, okay, great,
so they go look around. The wall tent had no
floor to it. It was just a wall tent, and
then you put rocks down along the edges to keep
it from anything blown under or whatever. And fortunately the
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one bag that had all the extra AMMO was still there.
There was another survival bag still there. They grabbed those bags,
fired up the wheel. They were just about to start
taking off and they noticed tracks in the mud. They
went over to see what the hell was this and
it was huge, he said, it had to have been
about twenty to twenty two inch track, and it looked
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just like a human track, just big and wide, and
it was deep impression in the mud. The two dogs
that were still remaining, they were petrified to come out,
but they weren't going to leave them there considering what
happened to the one. So what they did was is
they got those leads. One was strung up through the
brush where because they never saw the tent again, it
was just gone wherever it was drug off to.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
They didn't go looking for it. It was just gone.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
They were able to get the leads one lead, and
they used a rope basically leased them up. Once they
were released up and they were moving away, the dogs
didn't have to be dragged as kept up. The dogs
were just petrified the whole time. Tails tucked asked in
being dragged, but they were trying to move. They were
trying to fight the urge to speed, and they also
didn't want to strangle the dogs, but they couldn't hold
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them because Joseph was holding the rifle a month he
was driving. They wanted to be able to protect themselves.
So they get through. And when they get over this
tree line, it's still early enough in the morning, it's daylight,
but the treel like pitch black steel, and woods are dark.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
They stopped and they had the creeps.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
They didn't want to go into the dark woods, but
the skiff is that way, right, so Monti goes, just
get ready if we have to well drag the dogs.
We got to get through here. The trail this is
just a slight s curve. It wasn't nothing horrible. It
wasn't a bunch of roots where they had to slow down.
They could keep a pretty decent clip within reason. But
they didn't want to. Monty falls started about five times
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because there was still about twenty yards from the opening
of the trailer in of the woods. And I'm not
laughing at him. I totally could understand the apprehension. Finally,
after the five or so false starts, montaguez, I'm going
for real this time.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
Just started going. As they went around the.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
First kind of bend in the curve of the trail
occurs off to the left. Monty saw one of these
things watching them, just standing there, and Joseph's last second
swung the rifle boom and fired that shot right hillatious scream.
He doesn't think he hit it, but it was right there.
He said, it was within fifteen feet. Here's the scream,
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and Monty freaks out because it was right there. This
huge being was just standing right there, and he hits
a throttle. Well, they had the dogs attached still basically
right this and grabbed one of them. Hilacious noise made,
and they just kept going and the other dog was
motivated to run. Okay, it was actually Joseph was trying
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to hold his rifle. He had chambered another round, but
he was using his right hand to keep the line
out of wrapping under the tire because the dog was
passing them right. It was chaos. They got through the
tree line out to the other side. They're freaking out.
So there's a couple of cutbaks right one. It was
where they thought the skiff was. So when they got
up to the first little area, there's no skiff and
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they're freaking out right because they had jumped off the wheeler.
They're looking around and Mantia was like, no, over there.
He just saw the part of the outboard the grass away.
It was hanging over the edge of the river bank.
So they run over there. Dog jumped right in. They
jumped in, dropped kicker, fired it up, and got out
of there. This approximately twenty five years ago. My heart
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rate's gone just thinking about it, because being in a
situation like that where there was absolutely nothing you can do.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
There's nothing. What are you gonna do? Run?
Speaker 2 (27:28):
You're to run away. You're gonna call someone that ain't happening.
Monsters are real. Care what anyone believes is irrelevant. Be
aware in the woods. Don't take shit for granted. Just
be aware. What I wanted to share with you today
comes from Cannie and Michael.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
Some retirees.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
It had retired the year before COVID hit SOS roughly
twenty nineteen that summer season.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
Now they were up.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
They were visiting some of their friends they've known forever
who happened to live in Seward at the time. Went down,
came out in the town, came in the anchorage, went
down to Seward visiting with the friends.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
Their friends had just acquired a boat.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
They weren't the best navigator at sea, but they had
all the technology to guide them around, do their thing
and all that happy stuff when it comes to being
safe on the boat. So Cannith and Michael they retired
from the medical field. Both of them were doctors at
one point, and then got into basically consulting work for
a little while after and decided, hey, let's live life.
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Let's retire and go and see these places we think about.
Now they're with their friends, and their friends have a
thirty foot boat. Nice boat and again not the best
with it, but they all lived as far as the
boat trip itself. So what they did is they left
Seward beautiful day, sunny, and they just started heading southeast,
just hugging the coast, just sightseeing, just enjoying it. They
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said they weren't really paying attention, but about two and
a half three hours outside of Seward, basically just riding
the coast, they watched their water levels and they just
at going around, watching the sea life and everything, the
marine mammals having one hell of a good time. They
came up to a point to where they saw there's
gonna be weather and they decided they're going to head back,
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and so on their way back, they decide, let's just
go past Seward and we'll go down further along that
way and outrun the storm basically and look at more
of the coast.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
They were on a boat.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
They could sleep on it, it was seaworthy, and if
need be, they figured they'd pull into.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
A nice safe cove.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Now they're new to Alaska, and so their friends that
lived here or lived in Seward at the time, and
they were going by their GPS little navigation tool on
deep water, shallow water, shipping lanes, stuff like that. So
what they decided to do is the storm was catching
up sooner, so they pulled into a nice little bay
that would have been pretty much kept them out of
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the rough seas of the storm that was coming.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
So they're there overnight. They're having a great time.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Stay tuned for more sasquatch out to sea.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
We'll be right back after the east messages.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Once they anchored out, everything was safe and everything. Everyone
enjoying some beverages and they end up going to bed.
They're all woken up the next morning by what they
think is some kind of siren.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
They don't know what the hell.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
It is, but it's coming from shore and they're like,
was that a tsunami siren or some kind because again
they'd never heard anything like it before. It was just loud,
and they said it started low and it ended up
high pitch, kind of like an air raid siren. So
they sat there for a minute and they're like, that's
a damned stain. And then they heard what they thought
was a woman being murdered. Okay, they're approximately one hundred
(30:46):
and fifty yards offshore in Avadmi, so Michael and his
friend will call him Spencer. Spencer of course, fresh to Alaska,
he had just acquired himself a four to fifty four
custle handgun in a twelve gage shotgun, because again, living
in the last you got to be prepared and all
that for bearers whatever. So Michael and Spencer. They dropped
the little dinghy boat, the little runabout, throw the little
(31:08):
four horse kicker on there, fire it up. Michael and
Spencer bline it to shore to go and help this woman.
They get to shore, and you got understand, the way
the waves were hitting was just pushing them in, so
banged up their outboard a little bit.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
I know this one all too well.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
So anyway, so Spencer kicks it up, finally gets it
to stay in position. Kicked up out of the water,
the waves are pushing them against shore, so they take
the opportunity to hop out their line tied off to
this big rock that happened to be there. Michael had
the shotgun, never shot one before in his life. Spencer
had only shot the two new guns he had because
he just got them and made sure they worked. Neither
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one claimed to be a marksman, neither one claimed to
be an outdoorsman.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
So let's not be too hard.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
On these guys, because they just they're trying to go
and say what they thought was a woman being murdered.
They get up and I guess the shoreline there's a tidebreak,
high water mark, whatever I'm gonna call it, and then
there's a bank, and then they're just looking in there
and it's dark and it's thick with brush all through,
and they still hear the scream again coming and it
sounds like it's just inside the tree line.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
So they're like, man, we got to move.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
They have handheld radio for the two ladies at the boat,
so in case they're on standby the radio for help.
But again they didn't know. They didn't know if it
was domestic or anything. And because they were right there,
they felt compelled and being in the medical field, let's
go see if a woman hiker is hurt and take
it from there.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
Let's assess situation and move from there.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
They move into the tree line and it's a bitch
to get through, but once they punch through, it's fairly open.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
It's just that brush line along the shore.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
It could be pretty dense, but once you get in
there you can get moving around and it's spongy, mossy.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
It's like an enchanted.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
World because of the old girl timbers and the moss
everywhere and stuff. It just looked like something from Lord
of the Rings. Started hearing like something from Lord of
the Rings. Well, and so they're moving towards this sound,
and they're both looking at each other. Spencer seemed very
nervous from what Michael was saying, and kept stopping and
looking at Michael, just looking for any queue to get
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the hell out of there. But Michael was just like,
it's that way. The just retired from being a doctor.
He wanted to go and check it out. They're just
coming up over this little ridge and they're handheld radio
squawks to life. It's Candice and Spencer's wife. We haven't
heard from you away, we haven't heard from you. We've
radioed the coast guard.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
Fine.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
It scared the crap out of them right. Spencer asked,
what did you report? Strange screams? Okay did you give
a low case? And she said, I read off the
numbers asked for on the GPS. Okay, stand by, we're
still looking. We're still investigating. She was like, be careful,
and he turned down the radio because not off, but
down because it was wide open. So when they chimed
(33:49):
in it startled the crap out of them. It was
during this time where he was radioing back and forth Michael,
because Spencer was focused on radio.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
Michael hears movement off over this ridge.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
They're just about to crest it and be able to
get a better view, and Michael points as soon as
Spencer turns down the radio and adjusts it in his
vest and gets a better hold of his gun, and
he points. And so they get up to the top
of this ridge, and when they're looking down, they're not
seeing anything, okay, And it's fairly open. These are big
old growth trees. There's rushing stuff, but they're not seeing
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anything that looks like a struggle, looks like a woman
around screaming or anything. Michael said, the hair stood up
on the back of his neck, and Spencer held up
his arm and his hair was standing up on his arm,
and they both looked at each other and shook their heads.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
Nah.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
And just then, out of the corner of his eye,
Michael noticed one of the big old growth trees about
fifty feet away. Something big and dark moved back behind him,
threw him off, and he looked. He didn't see anything,
didn't see anything, mentioned it to Spencer. Spencer comes past him,
comes around him, and again they're up on this ridge.
It's going rising an elevation off to their right and
(34:55):
lowering an elevation off to their left, and it's like
a little bit of a gully and a little bit
of a stream that breaks down onto the shoreline down
below him. And they must have gained maybe seventy five
feet in elevation going up to this ridge looking for
this noise. So when Spencer comes around to his right
hand side and is looking in the direction that Michael's
trying to explain to him because he didn't want to
take his eyes off that tree. When Spencer sees it,
(35:18):
Spencer starts screaming f barms and holy shit and this
and that and just turns around and gone, and michaels.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
What the hell, what the hell? He raises up the shotgun.
He's like, dude, what the hell.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Then Michael sees why because this thing steps out massive.
He said he thought it was a giant in a
gilly suit at first, and he's looking and he's trying
to focus, and this whole time he didn't even realize,
but he's pointing the shotgun right.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
At this thing fifty feet away.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
He said it was downslope from us, but it was
almost as tall as me.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
At fifty feet away.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
He said it had to have been roughly guessing over
ten foot tall, very broad, very muscular looking, but he
couldn't see definition because it was looked like a gilly suit.
And he goes, this thing looked like a mentally challenged
Neanderthal his words, he used different words for it, but
he said it looked like this thing that had some
(36:12):
kind of down syndrome.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
Maybe. I asked him. I was like, can you clarify?
Speaker 2 (36:15):
He goes, it had that look about its face, but
when he focused on it, he could see dark skinned,
he said. I asked about the shade of color, what
have you? And he said it was like a darker gray.
I didn't want to feed him or anything, because I
was going to ask him it feels like a couple
shades darker than what cement type thing, but I let
him explain it in his words, and he just said
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dark gray, not black. And he said he look greasy,
just greasy looking the way the light was and everything.
He could see a little shiny on the face and whatnot,
but he said the eyes were so sunk in and dark.
He couldn't see nothing of the eyes, no whites of
the eyes or anything like that. Now, all this is
happening in milliseconds right because Spencer's already beaten feet. Michael
holding the shotgun, he yells at it, Hey, where's the woman?
(36:59):
Where's the woman? And he said, as soon as he
said that, this thing turns and walks back past behind
the trees that it was just standing by, and went
into some other tree and gone disappeared. He couldn't make
it out anymore because of the way the vegetation was.
He takes a quick look around. He said, his heart
felt like it wasn't even beaten that whole entire time.
Turns around and by this time he hears the outboard
(37:22):
on the little skiff. Spencer's down there with all his
might trying to fire this thing up.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
So he runs down.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
He said he felt a couple times he heard noises,
would turn around and was holding the shotgun, and he
realized once they got clear of everything, that he's glad
he didn't have to shoot that shotgun because one of
the times he felt it dug in and hole punched
into the moss, and he said there was at least
six eight inches of the first eight inches of that
barrel was plugged with moss and crap. So he gets
down the shore spencer has the outboard still out of
(37:50):
the water and trying to fire it up. But he's
going to burn it up, right, So Michael gets down
there and tries to get him calmed down. He says,
hold on, I'll push us out. Get in there, lower
it and do your thing. I was like, man for
being startled with that realization of that, you seem to
hold it together pretty good. And he was like he
was able to compartmentalize and stay in the moment even
(38:10):
though it was real high stress. Finally Spencer got it
fired up and Michael was trying to put the shotgun in.
Of course, trying to jump up into this little dingy
is like ten foot and he's trying to jump in
it as Spencer's trying to back away from him, right,
So he's hold on, hey, you got soap them wet,
and finally got himself up. Spencer just turned and bee
lines it straight back to the boat.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
Comes in hot.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
He didn't even barely let off the throttle when they're
getting close, because Spencer could not get the hell out
of there fast enough. It was to the point where
as they were coming in closer to the boat, Michael
said he was putting his foot up bracing for the
impact of it, and I was like, damn, I get it.
Speaker 4 (38:45):
Though.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
You don't knock again, Spencer. That's jarring shit. But there's
also panic and safety protocol. They don't ever line up,
they just don't.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
They beg into the boat.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
Spencer's off that little dingy, didn't even kill the outboard nothing.
The radio was there, his pistol was right there on
the seat, and he was in firing up the big boat.
And Michael realized, I need to get this shit out
of here because he's going to freaking leave me here.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
So he gets up there.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
Spencer's wife's trying to calm him down, and Cannas is
talking to Michael. Michael's trying to say, hey, there's a giant.
They're talking about it. It's chaotic because Spencer's talking to
his wife, Michael's trying to talk to Candace. It's just
a whirlwind of chaotic chatter. Michael said that he finally
calmed Spencer down. Spencer was like, what happened? I thought
it was going to get you. He goes no, because
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all this happened real fast, him yelling at it walking away.
Did this all happen within seconds?
Speaker 4 (39:36):
Right?
Speaker 3 (39:37):
He got Spencer calm down.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
They had radio coast guard saying, hey, we had radioed
in this call for a screaming woman and commenced to
share what I just shared with you. He said that
it was very strange because it came back something be
advised to stay within the area, gain a certain distance
from shore and wait, someone was coming or something. So
they pulled anchor they went for They're out doing as
(40:01):
they were told for a little bit. Then he said
a little while later they were radioed back and this
is on channel sixteen. I don't know if there's any
records of it, but he said they told him to
vacate the area, leave the area and ask for everyone's name,
type of thing, vote number, all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
They said that someone would follow up with them at
a later time. Did all that They get out of there.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
Now, the conditions weren't the best because the wind was
blowing and stuff like that, and so once they got
out in the deeper water, the swells were bigger. Everyone
was seasick. They basically bowled down to Michael following the
gauges and the instrumentation to get them back to seward
and whatnot. He said the way back was a very
long ride because he didn't know what he was doing.
He was scared to death that the boat was going
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to tip. When you're a novice, you don't know any better.
So that was the chorten end of itself, he said.
They get back there when they're pulling in. Finally, Spencer
had calmed down enough where he took over the controls
to dock up and everything.
Speaker 3 (40:58):
They had calmed down enough.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
So they end up gathering everything off the boat and
going back to their friend's house where they were staying.
And they were all sitting there, dead quiet for two hours,
he said, sitting around that table until Spencer finally opened up.
And Spencer's not his real name. Spencer opened up and goes,
that thing looked at me. Michael was like, it looked
at me as well, and he goes, when it looked
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at me, this is Spencer talking. He said, when it
looked at me, it looked at my soul, and I
felt it. Michael was taken back because he didn't get
that same feeling. But again, he wasn't Spencer, he said.
His friend making that comment really stuck with him through
the last five six years, that he looked at his soul.
He was like, looking back on it. It showed no
(41:43):
aggression towards us. All it did was it looked and
then vacated the area. It wasn't like it stocked to
try to get them. Well, that's one of the things.
These encounters are so random like that. I have people
ask me all the time, where would be a good
place a good chance of running into something? I'm like,
even if I knew, I wouldn't necessarily be telling somebody
(42:04):
anything like that, because man, that's a huge liability. I
don't want to think about it. I advise against it.
It only sounds like you want to have an encounter.
It only seems like you do. But once you do,
there's certain things you can't undo. Just be careful what
you wish for. I want to thank Michael and Candace
for reaching out to share.
Speaker 3 (42:25):
I want to thank you guys for joining me. We'll
catch you soon here.
Speaker 4 (42:27):
On the next one, they say, you don't gotta go home,
but you can't stay. I don't want to be.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
We're all out.
Speaker 4 (42:43):
Its joy, this job, that chime, Everything came right back, crying.
Speaker 3 (43:12):
Back, joy for me, Joy, staying right.
Speaker 4 (43:18):
You come it right away, still stay step stay step still,
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