SO EP:679 Bigfoot Took My Lunch!

Earlier this month, I had the honor of being a featured speaker at the Ozark Mountain Bigfoot Conference in Missouri — and let me tell you, it was an unforgettable weekend. The energy in that room was incredible.

 I got to spend time with amazing people, hear unbelievable stories, and connect with some of the best minds in Bigfoot research.A few weeks ago, I shared the live Q&A from the VIP dinner the night before the conference, and you guys really seemed to enjoy it.

So today, I’m kicking off a brand-new series of episodes featuring the speakers live from the day of the conference.

This first episode features my good friend D.A. Roberts — author, investigator, and one of the most passionate voices in the Bigfoot community. And over the next several weeks, I’ll be sharing presentations from David Zigan of Bigfoot Forensics, Shane Carpenter, Ryan “RPG” Golembeske, and eventually, my own live presentation from the conference.

Now, before you hit play, just a quick heads-up — this was recorded live in a large conference room, so the audio isn’t quite studio quality. You’ll hear a little echo and some background noise from the crowd. I recommend using headphones or earbuds so you don’t miss any of the great talks coming up.

So sit back, relax, and enjoy the first installment of my Ozark Mountain Bigfoot Conference Series, recorded live in Missouri. Let’s get started with D.A. Roberts.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now one of your pudding. I got a string going
on here, something just cause my dog. Something killed your dog?
My dog. We're flying through the air over the tree.
I don't know how it did it, Okay, Damn, I'm
really confused. All I saw was my dog coming over
the fence and he was dead. And once you hit
the ground like, I didn't see any cars. All I
saw was my dog coming over the fence. What are

(00:38):
you putting? We got some wonder or something prowling around
out here? Did you see what it was?

Speaker 2 (00:51):
It was?

Speaker 1 (00:52):
It was standing enough. I'm out here looking through the
window now and I don't see anything. I don't want
to go outside. Jesus, quiet you bick? Hello? Hit the
boddy out here? What quin? I'm out there? I thought
of a bench about text fort nine. I don't know.
Easy annount there, Yeah, I'm walking right hey.

Speaker 3 (01:12):
Earlier this October, I had the honor of being a
featured speaker at the Ozark Mountain Bigfoot Conference in Missouri.
It was an incredible weekend, great people, amazing stories, and
some of the best minds in the field of bigfoot
research all gathered in one place. Recently, I shared the
live Q and a from the VIP dinner the night
before the conference, and the response from you guys was fantastic.

(01:36):
So today I'm kicking off a brand new series of
episodes featuring the speakers live from the main event itself. Now,
before we dive in, just a quick note. This was
recorded live in a large conference room, so the audio
isn't studio quality. You'll hear a little bit of echo
and background noise from the crowd. I recommend listening with
headphones or earbuds if you can, so you don't miss

(01:58):
any of the great presentations coming up. First up is
my good friend Da Roberts, author, investigator and one of
the most passionate voices in the bigfoot community. Over the
next several weeks, you'll also hear presentations from David Ziegan
of Bigfoot Forensics, Shane Carpenter, Ryan rpg Golumbski, and yes,

(02:20):
eventually yours truly. So sit back, relax, and enjoy the
first installment of our Ozark Mountain Bigfoot Conference series, recorded
live in Missouri. Let's get started with Da Roberts.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
I would hear this pop ANVI something from the wood mity,
all kinds of murders I can do. First, Sholes. I
can call Turkish with just my tongue. I didn't use
the little big brain the love guys used. It was
pretty good at making mimicing sounds. That's how I realized
that people they are too. If you live in that environment,
you'll be alone to be able to mimic the sounds
of found us. And that's how the tone pop things started.

(02:55):
I first started out doing another but dad trying to
make a noise them couldn't not be nowhere. Ear is loud.
But I got to listen to it, and I'm like,
it sounds like good. Sometime copying the top of them,
I went and the first time I did it, I was, oh,
that's it. But it took me a long time before
I could project any volume or change teleplay. You can
really project. Get it out on table on the later

(03:17):
one night and we got an immediate win in armed
response and just farther down the place, and then I
did it again louder and we could hear it apple
when across the cloth, and that's when we got a
crowd for back across could get it was not app
So I think my theory is that toepop is will
to use. I think the tongue pop is not only
for saying hey, I'm here, but I think that's also

(03:39):
the territorial And I think when they hear that and
they know there's not supposed to be their buddies out there,
that when they'll find out what it was. And that's
how we get the regressive responsible to get But I
also have a theory that you guys might have to
go out on them with me with and RB cheeping
back gift on this. We were talking a little bit
about this last night. How we think that a chunk
of the time these things are not nocturnal, but a

(04:01):
goictions at the time they're bulow around. Now. The USGS
they did a survey of the manage cave system in
Tennessee and chos and they did a major expedition going
back into those caves. And I don't know if you
guys did in a cave growling. I did a lot
of runs the other But it's only mainly because it's
not like you can say, hey, I'm going to easither

(04:21):
drop supplies here, because you've got to pack gick ever
to day, set up a basis camp and bring all
your supplies into said supply to base camp and then
four a up from there to do it and have
each time you can't have supplies what Valley headed done.
That's the harder part. USGS got three days back in
the Badma gamee system and started fighting battaches, DIDs. Gimmans

(04:42):
didn't get that far, not without a major support stretch.
They didn't know Lois, but I read a report that's
perfectly interesting. But then they also said that they would
get back in the cage and they would find areas
that were blocked off by bowlers, and they would use
hydraulic jacks and would these bowlers back to the art
later in Boulder pay bamps. I'm on. It takes some

(05:03):
of the pretty day show. So we get to thinking
about the possibility of these things using the gage systems,
and if you need, all of them are out here,
because there's a Jay state. We got times that USGS
now don't believe that the Mammoth Cave system extends from
Maine to southern New Mexico. If you think that's not
a highway for these things, you're mistake. Another thing that

(05:26):
I used definitely uses highways as rivers. If you along
googlegles and look up Mississippi River and its tributaries, and
you can bring up the nap of that, they'll blow
your mine because it looks like a giant tree from
all over from North America all the way down in
Mississipi said build of Mexico. There are thousands of tributaries.

(05:46):
So if they're following these rivers and trees, there's they've
got a better highway system. Weed. But the reason we
fought started thinking about there the game that du in
Southern Bottle was for living a deco location, and that's
how let it get a line out of topic. The
reason we think that is because there are people that
have been born blind. These are maybe gets you to

(06:07):
find online. There are people who are born blind who
have taught themselves that at the locate just by clipping
their tongue. I've watched a video of a guy who
was born under sent blind who taught himself to ride
a bicycle UNDERCPT blind clinches on maneuvers two obstacle courses,
doesn't hit a sin bars. Now, if we as humans
and do that, what about something that's born adapted to

(06:30):
that environment. They spend a lot of time to looking
around with the one it's cooler, especially.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
In the sun.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
And two it avoids us firing. That's why I think
it's so hard to find a lot of them, especially
inherited when they've got a lot of days. But that
at the location, if that's a learner, besacre, if that's
something they can do. Seml can tell you a lot
about everything in this room. You can hear where the
voids are and can hear where the bigger sections are.

(06:57):
If he listens to that tone and when things bunce
that it's very easy to pick that out. And I
can do it. I'm just a ableity and leave them desserve.
So with some of them that was born out there,
that lived its entire life out there, that to live
the generations out there, it could definitely do it. So
that's why we think of what least one of our

(07:17):
theories is that they spend a lot of time subterraining.
Another great indicator that they're definitely that they're subterrainian, and
a very large part it's concurnal. It's called tap it them,
elucid them. You deer hunters out there, no point tap
it and lucid shot eye shine. It doesn't exist to you.
We lost thousands of years ago, because we're not nocturnal
and we've manufactured lights and we've started living around fires.

(07:41):
Tapping and lucid them is a layer in the eye.
It's an extra layer in the eye that reflects alike.
So when you make your fairly out in your yard
with your dog trying to flashlight it and he looks
at it and he's good, green eyes, that's tapping and
loose predators have it, nocturnal animals have it. It is
simply a natural app So I think that the figy

(08:01):
reports we've heard of people saying that they've seen glowing eyes,
I think it's just they have a very capital luciam mold.
We see a lot more reflective light from their eyes
than we wouldn't, say a dog or a deer that's white.
You know, even small amounts of light like a pen
light still lights up their US star right with reflood
out of the ronts because that tabit of lucim later

(08:23):
is exactly there. For that reason, it magnifies them read
the reds the amounts of flight at night, so to
give them a huge night visions. Now, as a result
of that, animals that do have capital lusim don't focus
at Sharper's reading, so you know, going to see a
slightly greeny or image as we would, but then capital
luesome is a huge adaptation that would allow them to

(08:48):
see in the night and we couldn't. And another example
of that, would you walk the white blind in the dark.
We could walk like an arms reach at one and
probably never know it. It's amazing compliment these things we
can to blush. I've talked to researchers all over the
United States, including Doug high Checks from Monster Quest. I
don't if you guys familiar with toss your quest don't
a good dude, so I don't pregnant. Betta talked to

(09:09):
Doug about it, talked with a bunch of researchers. Some
of the researchers from Florida have found it. I've done more,
but that's another researchers from Florida has foundment chiefs of
it's what they call clear hairshifts. It doesn't exist and
it doesn't exist again culture us, but there are underlying
share of hair shafts that are clear. What's like a

(09:30):
five rock Okay, a lot of the next years to
Guillie suit is going to have five rock tables in it,
because you know what that does, the pick up and
redirects the color of light around. So if they stacked
up against the green environment, they would have hair green.
That they backed up against a brown environment, they would
look more brown. But the vault of their color is brown.
There's nothing those highlights, those clear airshafts were thinking enough

(09:54):
to color aroundable. I don't think it's a cloaking ability.
And this is just my personal opinion. I don't think
it's a cloaking until oh yeah, I think they're going
to another dimension. I think they simply camouflage far better
than we understand. I talked to it. I fraid my
mining down my own Old Lahoma with charity, and he
lives on the reservation. And he was talking about one
time that he went out to one of his favorite

(10:16):
fishing spots. It was a locking down the trail round
at the corner. He said, there was one standing in
the trade. Didn't realize it, he said it durn looked
at it, put its hand up over its face like
that like the clubbing its eyes, and stepped back into
the trees. And he said, as soon as it got
into the bushes, it was dawn and I asked the
usual questions. Do you think it cloked and it was

(10:37):
slowing into another dimension? He goes, I could hear it
still moving off, he said. I think when that thing
get those bushers, I just certainly see it. He said.
These things are so good at the camouflage. You could
blok right up off one. And they're others, those clear
hair shufts. I think they're going through that. I know
it's an alcohol out there theory, but got no more
out there than any of Yes, there's That's the thing

(10:58):
about this field those if you look in to it,
there are no experts. All we have is heary. Some
theories can out, some don't. But I think the subterranean
duty is going to prove true. I love that fair
and I can't wait. It's amazing. I'm looking forward to
hearing it. I don't know if you guys didn't need

(11:19):
in caves here in Missouri, they're the cave here. And
you know what grove Springs in the hearing is. If
you guys aren't local, you probably don't. World Springs is
not exactly civilization as most people know it here in Missouri. Repello,
if you poke the hit out the window and you're
plumb through it out near Grots Range. It's a cave
called Smiddle k and you can look it up up

(11:39):
on the Missouria Department Conservations. That's on there. It's okay
if you read the version they said on the MISERVEI
Department and Conservation that the land was donated to the
Smiddle family because of the gangs are around that. I
can pay you for a fat that's book graph because
I knew this.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
I used to be in there.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
Those aren't skating group that been yas. I'm into this
middle as well. This Middle has five ten year legal
battles with the state of Missouri to try to keep
that plank at Missouri it's kept after and finding guy
to know main. But as soon as they got control
of that cave, they put a thirty foot steel fits
across the mouth. Now, if you're gonna tell me that's

(12:19):
to protect bats. We're talking about a cave entrance big
enough that you'd drive a semi into, and they put
steel bars that are bigger around than minor risks thirty
feet up. If you want to keep un off like
does that Kane Lank would have done that. I haven't
know too many thirty foot bats you can. I wish
I had to hit a tumbrap with me. I forgot
it going. But I've got a picture of me down

(12:40):
next to that steel grating and it is way above
my head and they've got it angled out at the top.
What are weeks protecting cave bats for life? And that's
not the only that cave system that's happened to we're
beingcarious abouty Eric over here, he's got to bring down
in the Arkansas at the Department Conslvation did the same
thing on his lane, came in folded up. Wouldn't let

(13:02):
anybody have access? And why wouldn't that mean if it's
just that, yeah, a warning sign of stage say stay out,
and it's a batter in danger and a chain link
fensoul' have done just fine, But you don't put anchored
and common pret the thirty foot since protected minutes. It
just doesn't it that fencing alone at it's allus hundreds

(13:22):
of thousands of dollars when they cover our Yeah, you
can go down. You can still go to Smooth go
to that cave today to get in. They will not
let you in it. And I think it's because it's
part of a highway system. I think they know about
these names. I think they've known about them for a
long time. And I'll tell you why. I believe they've
known about them for a long time. And this isn't

(13:45):
in one of our pet theories when I shouldn't have
our podcast it's called the Bend Hunters Podcast for on
every Wednesday and Saturday night at eight pm century we
talk about this theory and it's thought traction with a
lot of folks. One of the earliest known accounts on
the round of a big what attack was from a
book of call The William of Hunt Area. You might
know who the book was written by Jeddy Roosevelt. Teddy

(14:08):
Roosevelt was a huge outdoorsement was one of the big
champions of hunting and conservation, and he had a big
foot a game. If you've read The Wilderness Hunter, he
talks about an incident involving a guy named Bounce that
remember that name because it becomes important. Why was that
bounding anywhere? Relayed this story that he was supposedly told
by a guy named Bout about them going looking for

(14:31):
beaver felts up into the valley. That the natives in
the area pulled him to stay out of They figured
that just what there was plenty of game, and this
part of the bounder and apartment who was an everything
goes up into this mountain started putting out trash and
from ninety one they started using things going around there
low and after about three days they didn't going through
their supplies and tearing up their traps. They decided to

(14:52):
believe that the gay out here, so on the last
day they started packing up their stuff and Bounding was
going to go out and get the last remaining apps
while his partner tapped up camp.

Speaker 4 (15:03):
And stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see. We'll
be right back after these messages.

Speaker 2 (15:11):
When Bowman gets back to camp, he's going to this
part our dead and that's broken that huge fan of
marks int that and describe it as the body look
as if something had rolled along. I get took to
pick and joy in Chilian must die and then rolled
on the body. So Bounding basically dropped everything in rain
and ran until he reached where they had left their horses,

(15:33):
got the horse, and got the neighborhood back. The Balman
incident is a truly interesting story because it is one
of our first documented cases of the things would have packed.
The Bowman described it as being closest, said to be
a tall head, Chuman like footprints, massive stride that he
couldn't do a tupo eg. If y'all get jetsury the story,

(15:54):
it's really great. One of the reasons that the bound
and incident stucked out to me, I've spent almost twenty
years law enforcement. One of the things that stuck out
of me the most about the Boumond incident was the
level of detail that now in detail was incredible. And
I haven't interviewed thy witnesses from domestic Dessaull time interview
you interviewed I witnesses drugs, Robber Reeves's winning a call.

(16:16):
You can imagine. I've interduecewed Our readiness is from him,
and I have never once gotten that much detail out
of an eyelinness. So one or two things is happening here.
Either Roosevelt got balm and drum and the guy just
battling on and on and on told them all these
stories and then Roosevelt woting down. But if you hadn't,
if you told the President of the United States, who

(16:38):
wasn't a time if you told this guy the story
about you seeing it Bigfoot, and suddenly he puts out
a book about him. You think somebody would come forward.
Never happen. Allen was never heard from him in And
there's the reason why this is getting important. Flash forwards.
After writing that book as the book to now in
eighteen eighty two, splash forward or Tenny Roosevelt people personally

(17:00):
annoying thing. What's one of the first things he does
is for National Park Service. And I don't know if
you guys know how many acres are involved in National parks.
It's about eighty eight point five million acres. So flash
fo Teddy Roosevelt's health president. He doesn't want people had
a political class breaks. He's want people to think that
he'd had monster sighting in the woods. And it's part

(17:21):
in his child even when he catch blame. So that's
why I think Teddy was down when he gets the
better players. Teddy Roosevelt was on the Harvard rowing team.
He was a college You guys, go, what the rolling
rowing team does, the little skin can do what the
nigs like idea called skulls. He was the front guy,
the number one guy in that along the rowing team

(17:42):
and because of you. It does. Even the number one
day in front of its new that was his nickname
in college. Anybody want to guess what the front man
and the stall team is called the bound same spelling
every day. So I firmly believe with just everything I've
looked at it from a toss point of view, I
think that when the steady Roads now, if you can

(18:03):
take that as a leap of faith and it's not
a huge dream of faith, and I think it's I've
got a solid case that album actually dig Teddy, But
if you can take that out of a leap of faith.
After Teddy created the National Park said he also set
aside a lot more areas for hunting worsers. Teddy Roosevelt
was personally responsible for the creation of the Mark Twain
National Force to Mark Twain pare in Missouri and the Oos.

(18:25):
A National Force in arcis just between those two national
courts about five million acres. That's a lot of j
But here's the ticker. A lot of people will look
at the national part Native eighty eight one five million
acres and man, it's a lot. Well, we'll have a
little deep dive in that. We started looking at the
government areas like what they call public use areas or

(18:46):
game reserve areas, wildlife management areas all areas that are
controlled by the Bureau of band Management, which is a lot.
Any I want to guess how many acres that are
actually far under government control that will not allowed to
have full access to over that's in the United States, States,
the United States and the last over a billion acres
we're not allowed to lasses. What's a new I know

(19:07):
for a fact we have multiple sightings for four years
of Missouri about the soldier got the station. Heard a
lot of weird craft in the woods at mine. We
had a place out there they called a million dollar hole.
It was an old quarrage that was inactive for young trippers.
They wouldn't stick your butt out there in the middle
of the night. Is an unloaded whatever the guard do.
I've heard some weird craft in the woods out there

(19:30):
standing guard over an empty pit. There's a lot of
siders coming out of Fort lender Wood. Anybody would care
a wolf? Care's guess what Fort wond Wood. It's hard up.
I mark frowning National Forces and twenty five thousand acres
of Fort Leonard Wood. Most of it is marked twenty
National Wars. A lot of these sightings don't the militaries.
I don't think that's a coincidence because most of those

(19:51):
bases are for thousands of acres out of Fort Campbell.
I think it's like twenty eight gens and that's just
maybe thirty minutes outside of a yep. I don't know
if a veil but it had ever been to Albill,
but I highly repe probably the creepiest place I've ever
been in my life, and Land between the Lakes is
in on the Kentucky Tennessee Board. It's about two hundred

(20:12):
and fifty thousand acres on an a lot of dog
man sidings ever been put side inside of day is
truly one of the creepiest places I've ever been. Yell
stand yes, Land between the Lakes, Oh yeah. But as
anybody care to gives with underall deal age, plot of
is very easy for these things to find. It gave
get to some furs later I use for work security

(20:36):
when I'm still with Deady. I worked down security over
my seven Silver Dollar City. Anybody who've ever been to
Silver Dollar City, anybody ever taken the came dirty? Okay?
Anyone to hear something creepy after hours when the park
was closed. I was armed security and I had a
lot nine millimeter bistol and I had a twelve age
shock that walk in that partment from the management of

(20:58):
Silver Dolla City, And I'd give you a direct quote,
no matter what you hear coming from that cave, do
not go in at four hours. That was art direct.
Don't care what you hear, don't go in. They tried
to tell us of this quiz quick out the year quality.
If they take tourists from there all day, why in
the year stud they went back to hunting. But I've

(21:18):
heard some weird crafts coming from that cave, heard like
whole moans. I've heard what sounded like language coming out
of it. It wasn't anything I spoke. It wouldn't even
sound like I spoken language. It sound I'm more like gibbish.
And that cave goes for my They fully explored. There's
a public area, and there's areas they stay out of
because they don't want to explore because they have fluffed.

(21:39):
You wouldn't want to get caught back in a cave.
They're the flood. I'll tell you that. Whether it's funny,
how so much of this stuff just conneced together, so
when you look at the individual things, they don't always
make a lot of sense. You're like, Okay, that's an
interesting thing. But when you start connecting the strands of
the web and pointed out how much of this stuff
is connected, I think that the government has known about
these things for a very long time. I think they

(22:01):
had no amount it since at least Sendy Roosevelt's day,
maybe even longer. I stumbled across a Printon News picked
a artible from eighteen twenty two from Indiana little town
called Edinburgh. In Edinburgh, Indiana, in eighteen twenty two, more
than a dozen people recorded seeing what they described as
a since fl baboon. I don't know about you, but

(22:23):
I've never seen a baboon loose in hills in Missouri.
I've seen it some weird craft. I've never seen a
bad boon. But for more than a dozen people to
describe it as a over six foot told baboon, there's
nothing in nothing indigenous in North America. It's definitely identified.
Was up like that. Even a bear Brandon Bears got
count like, you're not going to confuse a bad boon

(22:44):
in the babe that's just not going to have to
see anybody knows, you know, they play. He's had whole
strand Wood. They were following the Wild Dog and Barrituxus.
Arkansas has had two in the last month failed Barrick
X the first one, which was the first one. They add,
I know, twenty five days when they got two in
a month. I'm sure you guys heard about the guys

(23:04):
that in Colorado the old hunders are stripped filling my
like me, I thought that was odd. I've got a
buddy who lives out there. Followed Tennis, he said, what's
up the debt? He said, I'm waiting on the autopsyn
Worries probably said, probably white Man's for you're up there. Okay. Worldwide,
more than twenty five thousand people are struck by every
very few votes. The accountants in the United States doesn't

(23:26):
know why, but the average is about twenty five a
year for people to be struck by life. Twenty five
we had two happened at the same time. All fatalities
that ended up itself was weird. It's an unlight stood down. Okay,
I can go with that. Two weeks later, that's lurk
two hundreds struck by light one okay, okay, two's a

(23:49):
coincidents thousand of a dad three days ago, another one
in Colloda an exact same area strepp until late and
I've seen people hit by lightning. It's obvious. But they
took over a week to get the autopsy out of
the first two, which I thought was all that and
we usually get up. I was a deputy are Freak County.
We could general and get an autopsy report that in

(24:10):
forty eight hours. And granted we're not saying Owers or
Kansas City, but we've still got our autopsy before. It's
pretty fund pretty get back pretty fast. What it didn't
take over a week get an autopsy. Let's see just hog.
There's a lot of hogs. Study. I didn't money to
make two tears. There's a lot of weird stuff that's
happening in the world today. Some of it, yes, natural causes.

(24:32):
I get that it happens. But when academy started urging,
we've got to ask what's going on. I'm not thinking
it's this big foot later, I'm not thinking it to
you up overlate, but I'm just thinking it's weird. It's
out of the ordinary, and tapping in a lot things
that didn't happen before, and now becoming almost daily. Every
everybody remember what happened back in twenty twenty the black

(24:53):
played in the twenty first century whenever when we started
shutting everything down, everybody stayed home. We've had it. We've
noticed this right here in Springfield, animate stamping, when people
stopped being out, stopping in parks, stop being out on
the trails, animal skin culture. Can an driver on Springfield
see there are ringing doorbellt cameras here in town, like

(25:14):
we're within a mile up here. They've thought a mountain
long on the ring doorbell camera. There have been black
bears in people's back yards right here in Springfield. We're
the third largest city in the statement here, not one
of what conxactly saying local Campa City, but we're two
hundred fifty thousand seple in the Great Metro area. And
the seas animals were way in town bad enough, and

(25:35):
in and of itself is off. When we started getting
like deer and other prey animals coming into town. Sure
the credators are going to fall, but that's also happening
with bigfoot sudies. We're getting more were fiftooth sightings and
they were having the four There was a FIFO siting
here in Springfield, on the north side of town.

Speaker 1 (25:54):
It's half a mile.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
From the city of Winds inside take I've been trying
to get the video for the last month. Suppose of
their security can video that the bigfoot going through their dumpsters,
But I can't hit anybody to get me a copy.
But the reporter persists paring numerous employees in the restaurant
had seen him when they go to take the garbage,
had it, So why not why they're coming into the

(26:18):
town following the game with another thing I think is
contributing to that for them coming into looking at trash.
How many of you guys, if you're hunters, I know
one of the biggest concerns I have about hunting these
days is a chronic wasting disease. Whenever you get a deal,
you can check it in state of Missouri checkick for free.
You can buy chronic wasting disease as kids. But twenty
years ago, I'd never heard of chronic wasteing disease, didn't

(26:41):
even know what it was. It's so interesting to see
that some guys like Ted Dujit, who is a big
advocate for observation is claiming that the government released chronic
ois from the gree bout Purpose, whose first known accounts
of chronic ostem disease was in telling him Saloo in
nineteen sixty seven, and from there it's where it's to
come everywhere. There's only two reasons that would be deliberately

(27:03):
the one they're trying to lemit what we can hunt,
or two they're trying to limit what something else to
uchronium wasting diseases not the only thing that showed up,
you guys, seems the new thing about rabbits during that
a cancerous form where they're growing what looks like tentacles
out of their necks. Why is wild games so that
they talked to it wasn't for the last thousand years.

(27:26):
Now in the span of twenty years, just about everything
we used to hunt, you've got to have you contested
or you're free beating. Why is that strange? It's just
another one of those things that really when you look
at the bigger picture, and we've looked at all these
things that's connected entities, it starts making a lot more
sense on why it is you control the food, you

(27:48):
control the population, and that applies to that applies to
humans as much as it does to a big put population.
And you notice that sense of chronic wasting disease is
really taken off. Just tell me more fine encount's we've
heard about, especially in the last the violent A games
are way over. I've got a buddy that lives up there.
The name's Fred Roll. If you guys have not seen

(28:08):
the channels of arc sasquats, check it out. FREDI bret dude,
these first nations from Alaska. He talks about encounter stories
from the tribes up there that don't generally get calls
anywhere else because they don't to home down siders. But
his story is a frank. First time I talked to
fred If he talked about his first encounter where they
were at him and his uncle and his cousin were
attacked a hunting cabin on the of you. It was

(28:31):
the Act River. He says, they've already got out of
there with the flies. And when he told me the story,
he literally broke me down telling him his story, and
he had stopped, couldn't go on. He had he had this.
We had to wait about fifteen minutes where he could
finish the story. Can you see somebody physically shaking talking
about on these stories? I give them a lot of credence.
And when you interview people, I would probably the interview

(28:53):
put the house of people over the years. When you
interview people, when you see people, you know, if you
have any goose bump reactions or the hair stands going
in orund their arms, or they they're voice catches, that's
set that kind of stuff hard to think. You're seeing
somebody having a viscial reaction to something they saw. And
you've got two kinds of people. When they have a

(29:13):
big foot siding. I talked to a lot of both,
you've got to hold the first time they see it,
they don't believe what they saw and they never want
to see it again. And then you've got idiots like
me if you want to go running up the woods
see if it can finance. But those are general the
two reactions. You want to know more. You want to
pretend it didn't happen. I fine, I'm telling you from

(29:35):
going to training seminars where the the topic would tell
each other's stuff, they will not talk about public because
we got a lot of boots. I'm not tired now,
I don't get a crap. I don't have to be
a testifying cort. I don't give me that stuff. I'll
talk about this stuff on that. But I know a
lot of guys that are still active and they will
not tell their story. One of the best that I
heard was from a guy who the deputy. I won't

(29:55):
tell you what county, but it was along the Missouri
Arkansas board.

Speaker 4 (30:00):
Stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see. We'll be
right back after these messages.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
It was deer hunting in a section of the Mark
Training National Force. There we go Mark running him. It
was deer hunting in a section of the Mark Training
National Forces and going to the same spot for years.
One day he goes up to his deer stand. He said,
about three in the morning, He said, out there, so
we get everything settled in here. Like to get out
there early. You gotta a tree stand. He had a
soft side and like thrmal lunchbox. He took from the

(30:30):
soft side lunch arch boxes with a cooler back and
a few blowmy sayings, and he said it was apple.
He pictures with him gets up to his deer standing,
wraps at a strapper on his legs so he doesn't
drop it and dozed up. It was a few hours
until summrising. He had time dozed up. He said, next thing,
I mean, I felt something pulling on that lunch force,

(30:51):
he said. He opened his eyes and looked down, and
that thing's head was at knee level with his knee.
He said, I was a good ten foot off the ground.
He said, it was tugging on that lunch. That's what
you do. It said, don't fucking stratton. I didn't have
it because I wouldn't have to die over too blown
the sandwiches. And I said, well, didn't want you to
do he said. He said, I'm not. I'm not. I'm
not afraid. Good minuting. He said, oh, I was gonna

(31:12):
kiss myself up in my tree. He said, I'm better
have the lunchbox and watched it walk away. I said,
you ever think about shooting? He said, I don't think.
I had got sloped down. He said, I think wants massive,
So I said, didn't want it. He said, oh, wait
until I was sure it was gone and I can
no longer hear walking, He said the clint and astown
out of that deer stand. I went back to my
truck and I in the woods. He said, I've been fact,

(31:35):
I've sold my deer quip. Will not go back out there.
He said back, if you want that deer stand, I'll
take over that, but I'm not going back back there
to get it. And uh he drew me an app sure, no,
they're out there. What was left that they'd been out
there a few years. And that's just one of many cases.
And if you guys are familiar with the missing pool,
one one cases. David Flyde is sophoer officer. He does

(31:56):
forensic analysis of weird cases. And they had to meet
it specific price. Anybody that goes missing in a national park,
it doesn't to a file that, but they've got to
go missing under very specific service. So those go on
to need cherry picks. Those and even with those the
what's the good new apartment? Their friends in national parks,
national parks every anyway, they're very chintzy in the amount

(32:17):
of information they'll give that. In fact, they will not
even admit they amount of people that are missing at
national parks because it's haggled internally. It's never there invite
in outside law enforcement. Melissa the d News conducted, so
we have actually no idea how people go missing our
national parks, but they would go out of the profiles.
Only the weird ones. And one of the most recent
ones he's been doing is called missing flowing. One of

(32:38):
the hunters, and these are guys who are familiar with
the area and under that area for years. We're add
and just vanished without a choice. Guys that had enough
wood craft skills they could have got back from their
view or new to stay in place. Here hunters, help
me out here as you fall, fred your ankle out
in the woods, what's the universe assign to help me?

Speaker 1 (33:01):
Shot?

Speaker 2 (33:01):
Shot? Three shots in the air. Never happened in the
eighties deaths. They just vanished armed hunters two ball arms.
I mean, end episode was a lot enough, But I
thought that probably two or three dozen deer hunters over
the years that have gone three hundred sides and they
said I didn't take the shot because it looked two resume.

(33:21):
But I think the missing four to one hunters took
the shot. I think they took the shot and pisted
it off. I would not try to bring down one
thousand family. I'm will look two twenty three. It's not happening.
A deer hundred two twenty three, a deer hundred with
three las, but small calendar like that. You know, I
don't want to say small caliber. And you take down
a deer with the two twenty three, anybody over here

(33:42):
is probably due dune. Would you go elt hunting on
the two twenty three? That's too much ball. That's a
lot of thick mustle, a lot of thick bone. Same
thing with big truth, they're a lot bigger. They're bigger
than we are. The thick bone, heavy mustle two twenty
three probably up to a lot of bage, finely to
a lot of painting, and that thing I was trapping
about twelve or fifty fet er step of that. But

(34:03):
people were talking about big animals with heavy muscles, heavy
boneber So I think the guys that there were logan
for gear who took the shot, all they really did
was get it attention, which is a bad thing to do,
or if I'm a lucky shot, if they took one out.
I don't think these teams are ever alone. Very rarely
we encountered an individual front being driven home from a

(34:25):
clihybrand family buying larger. You see one, you probably there's
probably eighty others you felt us, which is why even
though when I go on on the woods, I go larmed,
I would shoot one unless I absolutely had to maybe
be one of those between getting me and me getting
beat dying, or someone else that I'm with dying. Then
I don't want to be the guy who drags wanted
in town that's gonna open up its own home cattle fish.

(34:48):
I don't know. I'm looking to bring one down, never have,
never will with it comes what if? What if they
are close? Thing? Really up to this? What if they
are that intelligent and basically you just murdered somebody, So
the same the same thing with the person if I
the only thing I will ever and the only time
I have little drawing my weapon off Perstuss and defends
my home, fence, my family, same thing with me and

(35:09):
I take fire arms, I will not use the less have.
And I think that's probably what's been the same e
grace for a lot of them. Does they didn't take
this out. It really estranged me about all this. And
the only these sightings of the encounters is they're on
the rocks. We've been having war coming in. I've been
deciding with reports every day I'm an email confidence, and inevitably,

(35:30):
as territories encroach, some of those encounters come to be
by them, So you've got to be jiffy. That's It's
just the same thing with any animal out there. If
you catch it on a bad day, it's no good
on the counter. I was a rocking enter in the
National Park with some buddies and went back back, came
back in the late eighties, and I kept telling them
I hear a bear. I'm then like, you' here a bear.
But I'm telling me I hear a bear, And They're like, nah,

(35:51):
there's no bears up here. And day the ranch just
told us grizzlies up there on the rockies, I hear
a bear. Luck, you're just being paranoid. We rounded a
corner and I would have switched out and touched his
bear on the nose. I played this game with my dog, ragled,
but hit him on those and you at me want
that I could have done that with the bear. And
the first thing I said was don't run, not from

(36:12):
the predatory game takes him the predatory instincts. The first
thing I said was don't run. What do I hear?
I love that. I was the only one there because
we in the bed. If good buddy's there, I was
listening to this bear. I could have went hit him
right on those and I think at that particular moment
the bear and I had this little connection because in
my brain I was like, oh, it's a bear and

(36:33):
the bear was like, oh, shift you're doing. And it
went one way and I had the other. Now had
it they have getting close to hibernation season. Or if
that had been a mama the cubs give me story,
I would have been dead before I could have DIGNI
a step. But it went one way. I want the other.
And it was a peaceful in gain happens happens with
wil animals all the time. But try that went down
the moose moose is and I'm ging you get to

(36:55):
consider the praise peces. The moose was soomby to death.
I remember people killed in the last every year by
moose and decks. So any time you count a while,
now you have the potential for it being at behind
anting count. And then if you're gonna go on the wood,
if you're gonna be going out camping, fishing, hunting, back
backing for the hunting, just be sick. Be careful because

(37:18):
there are things out there, especially in Missouri, that'll kill
you if it gets a chicken, snakes, wolves, tie outs,
air if you believe mean wild dogs, if you believe
left you going on in Kentucky and Tennessee. I hear
up a farm kid. We build a lot of dogs.
You can't afford to love them. Take down your livestyle.
I can't believe it be a neyed of with him
to Kentucky, Tennessee. One of the ladies that was killed,

(37:41):
I believe her last name was Apron. She was killed
at Crook County, Tennessee. She was missing forty percent of
her flesh lived long enough, he gets the hospital. Dogs
don't even forty percent of a person in that thought
a big tread. But they swear it down those dogs.
And here's the kicker at the top. I've learned this.

(38:01):
Used to they would just say no comment. But then
and the old we got a lot of call the
Freedom of Information Act. You can use the Freedom of
Information Act requests to get the fives because their public record,
any case and it's closed, is subject to a PRESI
the friendom of Information had called. So now they're not
closing the cases now they leave them open cases. See
give me freedom of innovation of acted. In twenty twenty two,

(38:23):
there was an Amazon drivers killed here in La Area
up near Pantas City. I don't know. They blamed it
on the dogs. They said the dogs in the house
that he was delivering the package to killed one. You
know how they got the dogs. They can keep the
door in on the house and went in and shot
the dogs in the house. Dogs in the body Amazon
drivers next to this truck. That's still an open case.

(38:46):
I talked to the corner and the sheriff of that county.
Both of them said they've never seen the body torn
up that death in their courage that one of those
dogs was a mask. I've only asked this like, okay,
those dogs are do the m lazy to attack for
if they are the laziest dogs on the planet, where
dogs I loves ours. Our masters could be eating my
boys can't take food right out of his mouth. And

(39:07):
he just looked at him like what who's he good for?
I believes that they're not aggressive dogs, and well they're
making good for you look not bad at press. It's
got to be stuff I'm really bad and get a
massive view aggressive so I don't believe it for a
set that it just randomly attacked some driver find inside
the house while the driver is outside. It's next to
those treatments. Idn't buy that. But it's still considered an

(39:29):
open case. Even though they publicly said the dogs did it.
Case closed. Case is still open and won't reveal any
I've tried twice to screen information at that they won't
give us a stay. That seems to be the new
no comment. They just to leave the case over so
he can never be something by a preview information. Now,
anybody I got any questions.

Speaker 5 (39:49):
At the Star the military, you can't from all out
and talking about it.

Speaker 2 (39:54):
A lot of these guys only come forward after they're
out of the military. While they're in. If they come
forward at all, they come forward off the record. Eric back,
there was our station with Camplington. Was it Camplington? I
was enjoy why the word and we're doing it? Was
they had the sights?

Speaker 1 (40:12):
So yeah, I just did a video.

Speaker 2 (40:13):
On the nineteen sixty eight came Venterton and I was
then in my for the Vendom poptions. I know it
exactly the patient tar I interview the guy who was
still active at the time who was doing the MP
training in Port Leonard work. He said, they were coming
back from the field an FTX. I don't know if
you guys, it's a field training exercise. He was coming
back to the FTX they did out on Arrange night

(40:36):
five since that four flock and one and they were
coming back. He was in the back of the deuce
stam about half asleep. He said he was awoken by
one of the other guys in the guy of the
douce snap screen. He opened his eyes and there was
a hairy on had reached into the back of the
deuceman and took the case of anymore anybody's having found
him or reason those that's a punishment worse than death
chicken all crass. It's at least better than the one

(40:58):
that based fall be chatted with being come telling me
that founds tasty right there. It's a freeze drive. You
have to reconstitute it padded the beef. If you reconstituted
fin directions of form water, you get hot dog SuDS.
If you reconstooed it with cold water and just get
cold dog food. So the only way we could eat
it was crush it up into the beans. And mix

(41:19):
it up. Even then it taste it like crap. Those MRI's,
I felt sorry for it. Two guarantee things about the MRI's.
There are certain things that will get you the cracks
and certain things that will lock you up for days,
and they are affordable. Is if you don't get them together,
you're in a lot of trouble. But yeah, reached in,
reached in the back, produced to have to face it.

(41:39):
I said, what do you guys do about it? You go?
We told the instructors and they told us to keep
it to ourselves and not pop about it. So this
happens fairly regularly. But there are a number of Air
Force facings that are constantly having to send security place
off because they've gotten into the Bigfoot, have gotten into
the tunnels beneath face those fly cops. Happens all the time,
fairly out and some of what they off the mits.

(42:01):
And just because it's a desert, don't take them not
out there. They certainly are. These things can adapt to
any environment, just like we. I believe that the baby
foot are on nemberus much like us. I think they'll
eat anything. But here's the funny thing, Bigfoot, especially when
the the siding air forces waiting to look at them.
I think there are a lot like bears. I think
the bears is a perfect and out down here in

(42:22):
a little over forty eight we got black bears are
really big. Blackie is about six hundred pigs and that's good.
Sounds like they're on members, sully berries, delly, ro jail, deli, trash, belly,
eat pretty much anything they find. The constantly borrows m
and in the spring they live pretty much off berries
because it's a very high gallery meal and they can

(42:43):
really wolf about those berry packs that you can see out. Okay,
those aren't very risks. Once in a bloom we hear
about a blackie at that not off little farther north
get into Grisbly Territory, Bristol's ron nimbers, delly berries, lly,
deer belly eating they can catch. But they will also
eat roots and berries and pieces of trees, and it'll

(43:05):
eat just about anything, especially when it's getting close to
that pation. They got that fat, but they're not also
they're also not opposed to getting the occasional hike. Grizzly
bears are a lot more common attacks on humans and
they're generally failed because you got something that weighed as
much as a volkswagon coming again, odds are real good.
You're not going to survive to be attacked. There was

(43:27):
an incident reported. They had believe it was a Penali
National Guard. I got this so park rangers when I
was looked for the guy and they found what was
left at his campsite. And then this park ranger was
charged by one of the largest bears that were killed.
And it's gonna last goose over to both of you
tall and wait just north sixteen hundreds. It had killed

(43:50):
and eaten that hike. And this is I've gotta tell
you that I got my hats off to that park
ranger because I would have been it would have been
a very brown pensil moment if you get my meat.
He had the present it's a mine. He had loaded
a seven magnet into this thing, and I don't know
if you guys ever shot as pretty powerful rifle. He
dunloaded it into this thing and reloaded as he was
backing it up and emptied it again. Finally killed the bear.

(44:13):
When they get the bear and they do it acrops
you on the bear. Of course they found they killed
them a missing Hyper, but what they also found in
the bear plus six slugs from a thirty eight caliber
pistol at it's a chest play never penetrated beyond the
chest to start. They got six in there and they
found the gun. The club was left to the hyper.
Bears are like sharks of the land. They're gonna need it.

(44:35):
They just got you you need. But as poor Hyper
was as good all that and thirty eight caliber and
not enough to stop the bear oday airs, especially grizzlies,
canon people. It's constantly documented, and they're a little more
colder weather mostly mountains bordered states and now was aggressive.
The the black bears we have here lowered in the

(44:57):
lower States, but they tend to be a bit more aggressive.
Are you even farther north into polar bear territory? One
hundred percent of meat. It doesn't need berries. It needs
people that are slow, and they eat seals and needs
fish occasional cameraman, but bears are not to be messed with.
They're not jokes.

Speaker 4 (45:16):
And stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see. We'll
be right back after these messages.

Speaker 2 (45:25):
In Alaska, they tell people to leave their car doors
along so they can jump in the car polar bears
chasing it tells me that it happens often enough that
they worry about it. I don't want to be chased
by polar bear. It is currently the largest living mare
of treaties on the planet. But there's a hunting guy
in Alaska that thinks it's not the only species run it.

(45:45):
Are you guys ever heard of the short faced bed?
Short faced bear is depletely one to extinct about fifty
thousand years ago. It's possible remin the populations of that
could exist up in the deep North like Alaska and
northern parts Canada. There's so few people live up there.
As a guy took a couple of felt utters out,
they dropped an elk, and this massive bear charged out,

(46:06):
grabbed the elk and draggon relves. And the way they
described it was it sound like a short faced bear.
And I hope the god of Simes are still out there,
because the short faced bear on average got nine two
feet tall at time legs and weighed north of a tongue.
Can you imagine sending in your deerstand that thing's going
to knocked the tree over to get you out of
that dear stand and those are daminas we know exists.

(46:27):
But short faced bear we've got fossil records to show
it exists. Dire Whips we know they exist. We've got
all kinds of fossil records of things like dan in
the Soviet There's about a dozen different humanoid creatures that
have died out over the millennium. Data are on the
same family tree as US Australia pithopis felt out man.

(46:49):
There's about six p of them if you book back
at the evolution of comminence across this planet. So why
is it so hard to believe that something that looks
a block like one of those mister still longer? Which
I've talked to me about a couple of times. I
know a lot of people that think very highly of

(47:11):
her research, and other people that say she's just crazy.
I don't know. I don't know. I'm allomopically form an opinion.
I hope it's accurate. I really do. Because of the
loss of Damer and Eldman this year, we're gonna need science.
It's a fact that suck who really are thin need
more mainstream scientists to take this serious? Have you any
of you guys ever heard of a book called Them

(47:32):
and Us by Danny Vendermen brave book that if you
haven't read it, the full title is Them and Us
How Neanderthal predation shaped modern man. The infolds a player
and back in the eighteen hundred person in the NFL
stoles the skeletons for a discovery the Old British Museum.
They put her together and they made a look as
human as they could. But Danny Vendervini had a friends

(47:55):
again topologist to construct the skeleton to hem and what
they came up. What's what I'm thinking. You guys haven't
a chance to look it up on Google and look
at images. Look up Danny vind We need him and us.
What the amber thought reconstruction looks like is identical to
the description of a lot of people are giving out
the Sasquatch. It's covered in dark fur, it's bigger than us,

(48:17):
bitterer eyes with a monologue and white in him. Looked
up with him and us, you were going to be
terrified because if that, if he's correct, that is probably
the best theory for what sasquatch is in my opinion,
because we know what existed and the characteristics, we can
explain their hair shafts to that. I'm lousive. These are
all slainable scientifically by things that already exist in the

(48:40):
in the fossil red and I think to not compare
those is a huge disservice to everybody that's done before.
It's gonna have to take. It's gonna take people that
are approaching this scientifically. It's gonna take people who are
dedicated to proving these things exist without putting crazy theories
on the If they're hard, time took people they exist,

(49:01):
let alone that they take them. Say to it takes
or whatever it is. And I'm not saying that's not costible.
I'm not saying that at all. I'm saying every once
in a while, we'd mind something big. If anybody ever
hear of the BILLI ach cool. The Billy eight was
a legend in the Congo Basin. The natives in the
Congo Basin had been four decades. For as long as

(49:22):
we've been contacting, probably one hundred years or more, had
been telling stories of what they called two or apes.
They called them Alan hunters. The Billy eight was thought
to be a myth for all of the explorers who
went and asked Jack after on that does exist. Nineteen
ninety nine they found him. They were trying to put
out camera traps to catch something else in tyro and

(49:43):
that's when they discovered the billiate b i l I,
not Bilwai bi l the billy ach. It's a six
foot tall relative of the chimpanzee that spends most of
its time walking on two legs, uses his weapons hung slions,
and is known to carrettell villagers what does that sound?
And that's a modern discovery in our life. What we

(50:05):
fifty years ago wouldn't believe exist. Hell, one hundred and
fifty years ago, no people believe the Managin to really exist.
Now we know how many times of expeditions going up
in the mountains by the Africa but not seeing amram guts.
That's why they didn't look that exist all. We've been
up there dozens of times, we've never seen one. Because
they're very good pipe. So that's exactening what we've got
with the modern been put. They don't want me and

(50:27):
they're very good at height. So when you go out
there in the woods, look at them up look around.
One of the best things you can do. And this
is better than any gadget, any pacific equipment, any high
take a piece of computerized software. This is the best
thing you can do if you're really going to hell
one seasons. Go to an area, set down and shut

(50:52):
just before it. Give it about half an hour forty
five minutes. The sounds of the woods will start turning,
because if you go out there, any deer hunderds are
going to know that you're getting your earscaned. Everything goes
dead white until everything around you. It gets everything around
you comp gets used to your presence. Everything's fine except
that will and ansel, the squirrel it's gonna counting to
try to give you a wook. So many times I

(51:13):
wanted to just turn and shoot that squorld and then
again do that and you're never been seen. Gear gotta
be quiet. If you don't sit and listen, you never
don't have an experience. Generally speaking, they will respond more
to just trying to figure out what you're doing. Then
they will be making all the loops of the world.

(51:34):
And if I had had a good respond by doing that,
but I've had much better response just quite setting. Still listen. Question.

Speaker 5 (51:42):
Some time ago I hurry where people were thinking that
the biggest set it actually is a piece of dance
a tree.

Speaker 6 (51:52):
It's actually them, thank you for that would instead of
a piece of wood. And they were saying that, you
think about how often does the bix but have the.

Speaker 2 (52:03):
Piece of wood that they treat them.

Speaker 5 (52:06):
And at the beginning of your speaking you were talking
about all the different noises and stout and they make
the whoopend noise and everything.

Speaker 2 (52:14):
Else, So why couldn't they make tree not noise with them. Now,
I'm one hundredercent on board with you. I'm one hundred
percent on board with you. Yeah, I don't know who
you guys haven't been on the woods. Picked up a
stick like at our tree, branch off the ground? Can
it against the tree? About eighty percent of the time
it just explodes. Yeah, any branch it's spent on the
ground for any time, it all starts to rock. And

(52:34):
if you hit that branch and need to treat, you're
just gonna send frightens a crap out everywhere. So I'm
pretty sure a big pit's not walking around the woods
with a Louisville Slugger over shoulder, just waiting for somebody
to go so we can go back. I don't think
that's that I think. I'm not saying a twenty percent
all of them, but I think a very good chunk
of it is. I think so too, because it makes

(52:54):
sense that they're not always but I have that piece
of wood readily available to people on a tree.

Speaker 6 (53:01):
Marriage from what I understand, it's basically like the same
sound hitting a tree, which different kinds of wood, instead
of a different sound.

Speaker 2 (53:11):
So that's just what I was wondering what you were
thinking about that. I think some of it's done with
the mouth. I think some of it is done fucking
chest slack. I've heard guerrillas do that makes a very
deep something because they got a big barrel chest. I've
heard that in the woods it sounds thump thong man,
that's not a tongue pop. I think there's a lot
of what they can take, not just the tongue pups.
But as far as the wooden knock sound, I'm convinced

(53:34):
that it is probably at least ninety percent to so
and so is to me, that just makes more sense. Yeah,
you think big puts out there with a freaking heavy
lumbered to a little clunder over his shoulder pointing to
wrap out horse code. Do his buddies. You've just got
something that he keeps on all the time. As Jim
Doug's right, But you mentioned primes d exist. What happens

(54:04):
you succeed in the enemy the grape and I'm see
follow up through up crime and protection on this stener.
If the government ever comes forward amidst these things exists
or we have definitive proof, they're gonna have instantly be
gonna taking pieces. I guess remember what happened in the
Oregon back in the eighties when they discover any certain

(54:25):
species at owl, it's shipt logging down in that area
for thirty years. It's gonna have that exact same sept.
We've already got the land set aside, and we were
talking about there earlier over a billion acres that was
owned by the government and we're not about that full
access to eating today over a billion acres. So they
could do it. They could court an off entire areas,

(54:45):
and I think they are diet and I think we
call them national parks. Yeah, you go into Yellowstone, there
are areas you can't there are places that you just
can't go. And they even tell the part rangers got
well rangers gonn miss it. They just don't want to,
and unfortunately it doesn't. And I'm not saying it's all
big foot predation. I'm not saying enough, Timmy wanton Wood,
you can buy a big foot. I'm not saying that

(55:05):
at all. What I'm saying is, remember the bear. Nine
times out of ten, you could have a perfectly peaceful
and counter. You can catch one in a bad move,
or you get too close to the kid, or and
it's old and can't hunt anymore. What do you think?
You've got a big foot that's frugush in seventy for
the human years, not as fast as he once was,

(55:27):
Lincoln and misses and teeth, can't hunt like he used to.
He steps on on the trail. He looks to his
left and there's a deer rather than about forty miles
an hour up the hill. And he looks to his
right and he sees a guy broking stocks with headphones on,
dipping down the trail. He's gonna go. We want that thing,
tastes like because he's gonna catch So I think it's opportunistic.

(55:49):
I don't think that we're constantly on the venue, So
I think there's more things like chronic wasting disease, of
the diseases among rabbits, and other diseases that are appeared
A pair him. I think it's gonna have to find
a hundred foxes. If you're filling, go out of the woods.
If you're got go out looking for big float, champion
unting fish and whatever. Be careful, protect yourself and come home, sit,

(56:11):
take a med kit. Takes something to protect yourself. And
because at the end of the day, then once you
get to the homestaye, once you guys to experience the woods,
because a day of the woods to me is better
than any day of the city. I don't take a
day of the woods over a game in the city
any day, even if I don't have the day thing.
A day of the woods is a day well spent
to me. And if you're going to have a chance

(56:31):
to really appreciate INChO out that you really should take
a full food chair behind you, a placed by a
river and sit in and you'll find your stress melting away.
Be safe because there are things out there, especially during
that can only there's tutors, ammonis, dios wolves. There are
worlds in Missouri. They didn't use fee. They've been reintroduced,

(56:55):
oh plus snakes, no groups, and then we've got the
worst of all, the greater North American myth. You never
know what a legal bro or somebody flab out the
woods the composer. You get shot over that I have
anything else. That's my point. My closing is, if you're
going out there, please be safe, Please be care of
your pleasures and take good notes. Have they say take

(57:18):
only pictures, leave only photos. Thank you In