A BIGFOOT EYE SIGHTING ENCOUNTER FROM ARKANSAS | CANCER DOCTOR ENCOUNTERS BIGFOOT BY THE MISSISSIPPI - SASQUATCH THEORY

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Hey everyone, and welcome to another Sasquatch Theory podcast. On
this episode, we have Rusty from the state of Louisiana
and he had a bigfoot is sighting encounter in the
state of Arkansas. His bigfoot encounter happened right across the
Mississippi River, not too far away from Memphis, Tennessee. So
these things are all over the Mississippi River and they

(00:25):
are following the waterways, and it really makes sense. A
lot of the reports that I get on the channel,
people always mention a certain waterway and being nearby, even
if it's a small creek behind their property. I like
to think of the Mississippi and the Missouri River like
a huge interstate and all the creeks that connect to
it are like state highways and county roads. If you

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With all that being said, let's dive straight into Rusty's
Bigfoot encounter from the state of Arkansas. Rusty, Welcome, Sasquatch Theory.

(01:51):
How are you doing today, sir.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
I'm good. Thank you very much for having me. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
Absolutely, it's a pleasure to have you on the show, Rusty.
If you would tell me a little bit about yourself,
where you're from, and your bigfoot encounters and experiences from
the very beginning, please.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
Sure. I am a now retired cancer surgeon actually and
grew up in the area of Memphis, Tennessee, and my
encounter actually was in Arkansas, just across the Mississippi River
from Memphis, although I've lived in the New Orleans, Louisiana
for many years since in but this actually took place

(02:28):
in eastern Arkansas, just across the river from Memphis. So
the story is I was twenty or so years old
at the time. This was the summer of nineteen eighty
and if anybody who was there at the time, we
recall that summer was one of the hottest on record
in that area. In the Memphis, Tennessee area. We had

(02:50):
something like thirty five days in a row with temperatures
above one hundred degrees, which had never been recorded before.
So I kind of set the stage. I was working
that summer. I was in college, and that summer I
was working as a lifeguard at a small lake in
eastern Arkansas, just across the river from Mississippi. Our front
across the Mississippi River from Memphis, about a forty minute

(03:14):
drive from Memphis or so. And this was a small
natural lake that was an old run of the Mississippi
River where it changes its course and left the lake behind.
People would swim or fish, or picnic or camp and
that sort of thing, so it's a sort of little
mini resort. Anyway, I worked as a lifeguard at the
resort with another guy who was a buddy of mine

(03:35):
from college, and we would be the light guards during
the day and then in the evening when the swimmers left,
we could pretty much do whatever we want. We frequently
went fishing. We had a boat that we'd take out
and go fishing on the lake from you know, whenever
the fish oh got the swimmers left until we got
too dark to city basically. So then this was actually
one day in June, so that the days are very long.

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We went fishing as usual after we got off lifeguarding,
and we got on in our boat, and we were
had a trolling motor on the boat. So we're moving
very slowly about ten yards or so out from the shore,
moving parallel to the shore, trying to catch fish. And
so everything was quiet until all of a sudden, at

(04:21):
the bank opposite us, like I said, ten yards so
away from us, we heard like this rustling or crunching
in the bushes and the trees. And if you ever
been around there, the undergrowth is very thick. It's almost
like a jungle up and down there. And so we
looked at the shore and suddenly we saw what appeared

(04:43):
to be a very large hidden shoulders of something between
a man and a gorilla. The face was, like I said,
more I think more human like than gorilla like. It
clearly wasn't exactly human. It was very big, although we

(05:03):
could only really see it from about old chest up,
I guess because of the underbrush. It was like standing
behind the brush, so it peeked up and over the
brush so we could see its head and shoulders and chest.
It had dark brown to black fur over head, the shoulders,
most of the chest. Didn't have hair on its face.
Though it looked at us at that point, when it

(05:28):
realized we were there, looked at us, and we looked
at it for maybe ten seconds or so something like that.
Seemed like a lot longer at the time, but about
ten seconds or so, and we didn't say anything. It
didn't make any sounds, at least vocal sounds, and then
it turned and ran away up into the brush, and
we heard it for another maybe twenty thirty seconds, running away,

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and never saw it again. We did not hear any
thing we would call a vocalization from it, only the
noise of it, you know, running away. We didn't smell
anything at that point. He and I quickly left the
area went back. We had a cabin like down further
down the lake, so we quickly left there. In the
boat went down the cabin, locked ourselves in the cabin,

(06:13):
loaded all the guns because we didn't know exactly what
to do, and we were we were pretty scared. Any rate,
We did not hear or see anything else that evening
or ever again after that at that location. The we
we talked about it a lot in detail that day

(06:35):
that night, uh, and later after that we decided just
that we couldn't tell anybody because we thought, what are
we going to say? You know, there's a monster running
around the lake, you know, and we just didn't know
how to pitch that, because I can guarantee what would
have happened is the owners if we'd said something about this,
is that all you've boys been drinking again, you saw

(06:56):
a cow or this or who knows any right, So
we just out just not to say anything about it
again for many years. And there's that, and said he
think about it many years until, like I said, many
years later, the internet had come to be a thing,
and just cruising around on the internet, I stumbled on
the BFRO or Bigfoot Research Organization, and they had a

(07:21):
website where you could actually submit your your sighting and
put in a specific location on a map and I
did that then and then started hearing from people who
had who were interested in or wanted to talk about it,
And that's kind of where we are today. That was

(07:42):
probably fifteen years ago that I posted on BFRO, and
I've talked to handful of people about it, including you. Unfortunately,
the guy who was with me died probably fifteen forty
years ago, so I'm the only one live who knows it.
And that's that's really all the story, all.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
Right, Rusty. I really appreciate you for sharing that with me.
And that sounds like an intense encounter. What do you
think this creature was doing in that moment?

Speaker 2 (08:13):
You know, looking back on it, I think we probably
surprised it as much as he surprised us. I think
he or she was probably coming down the little like
I said, it was so hot that year, coming down
the lake to get water. Maybe you're jumping and cool off.
Who knows, and was the only thing he or she
was thinking about was I got to cool off somehow,

(08:37):
So he wasn't thinking to look out into the water
for two guys in a fishing boat slowly passing in
front of him until we actually saw it. So that
would be my guess.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
Yeah, very well could be. Did the facial expression ever
change on the creature.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
Not really. It looked at me us intently. It clearly
saw us. It's we were a little all, you know,
in a sense or looking shorty in each other's eyes.
There really was not much change though, not like there
was like surprise per se or Anything's like I said,

(09:15):
it's just a stone face looking as seeing we were there.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
Yeah, that is interesting, and it makes me wonder what
the creature was up to. Perhaps it was looking for food,
maybe some fish, some frogs, or just doing its daily routine.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
Yeah, exactly. It might will have been looking for food,
you know, as well as you know, wanting to get
in the water. Who knows.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
Yeah, that's probably the most obvious answer, that it was
looking for water. And it does sound like these creatures
follow the waterways. You always hear researchers say that that
you will find sasquatch by the water, and in this
case it's true.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
Seems like you know, we I have been watching ever since,
and then there's been one or two other reports from
that area over the past, you know, forty fifty years,
so I don't think they're common there. I think maybe
they just travel through for half. Maybe they go up
and down the Mississippi River, because the river at least
between certainly between Memphis and New Orleans is mostly forested.

(10:20):
All you said, I mean there's breaks where there are
cities at the river, but there's lots of delta in uh,
you know, unforested delta territory property along either side of
the river, so it could easily hide and move up
and down. So they may maybe they use that as
a way to it like a highway kind of or
how to pass through without being noticed.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
Yeah. Absolutely, I would agree with that. There's a ton
of bigfoot reports here in Missouri off the Mississippi River
and on the Illinois side, and that's what I think
they're doing. I think they're following the waterways, and there's
many rivers that pour into the Mississippi, and then there's
a bunch of creeks that connect to those rivers. So
you just have like this giant web or system of

(11:03):
what these creatures use to travel, if that makes sense.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
Sure, absolutely, I mean it's just the entire Mississippi Delta
from top to bottom potentially as accessible by you know,
the the rivers or Lake River. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:16):
Absolutely, how large was this creature from arm to arm
or shoulder to shoulder? Should I say?

Speaker 2 (11:25):
Yeah? That That's always been the tricky thing because, like
I said, I'm not really sure whether we saw it
standing up, are kneeling or what, because, like I said,
we didn't really see the feet or legs, so we
can only make an estimate kind of from of the
head and from the shoulders. The shoulders clearly were much
larger than myself or my friend probably. You know, it's

(11:48):
it's hard to estimate that. And I thought this many times.
How big do I think it? How big are my shoulder?
I don't even know how big across my shoulders are.
I would say it was easily double the si the
width of an average man's shoulders, and the head was
proportionate to that. I couldn't really say that I saw
much of a neck because the black hair was kind

(12:12):
of dangling down, So it was even if he had one,
he by not being able to see it because there's
so much here in the way.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
Yeah, that makes sense. We'll just go with three feet plus.
And it could have been bigger, it could have been smaller.
Do you think this was an adult creature a juvenile
what would you say it was?

Speaker 2 (12:31):
Yeah, it was my guess that it was an adult.
I don't know that I can really point to much objective,
you know, information to prove that other than just looking
in the face. It was kind of wrinkled. It was
kind of, like I said, kind of stone faced. It
just struck me as an adult. Whether that's true or not,

(12:51):
that was the impression I had.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
Yeah, that makes sense. And can you describe what the
face looked like? Did it have like a conical shaped head,
was it round like a football helmet? And what other
details can I remember?

Speaker 2 (13:06):
Sure? You know the head was more round, kind of
like a football helmet, you say in others, I did
not see the kind of conical shape that some people
report from from that are in you know, in gorillas,
So which is why I say it's somewhere between. It
looked like something between an ape and a man. But
maybe you know, in some places it looked more like

(13:28):
a man. Somebody's more like an ape. So like if
you look at the the nose, for example, in the mouth,
I would have said that was more like a gorilla
or an ape had very would appeared to be grimacing
type lips. If you can imagine rund memia where they
can move their lips very aggressively, or they really didn't
do that with me. It just kind of look that way.
The nose was very broad and the nozrils were upflared

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like a ape would be. The eyes were pretty much
proportional to the rest of the face, and were you know,
there was nothing distinctive I guess about the eyes. They
seemed dark. What else I said it was? The skin
was dark itself, maybe not not not as dark as

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the hair, but kind of a dull gray black. And
what else you know that that that's pretty much it. So,
like I said, I guess this way to summarize it,
it's somewhere between a eight some eight white teachers, but

(14:34):
some human white teachers.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
Yeah, that makes sense. And what color did you say
the creature was?

Speaker 2 (14:41):
You know, I think the skin, which you can only
really see, at least I could only really see on
the face, was sort of a dull gray to black,
almost even maybe with a little silver tinge to it.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
Okay, that gives me a better idea of what this
creature looked like. How fast was this reach or whenever
it took off?

Speaker 2 (15:03):
It was real quick turning around, you know, but it
wouldn't have taken you know, more than a second and
two even for a human because the brush is so
thick there, you know, as soon as you're turn away,
it was gone. I mean, we couldn't see it anymore.
We could hear it, and you could hear it stamping
through the brush and the trees and stuff. So we
heard it for another like I said, twenty thirty seconds maybe,

(15:23):
And you could tell this the legy ship was at
the bottom of a levee, so you could hear it
climbing back up the levee basically crashing through trees. And
then by the time they got to the top of
the levee and on the side of being we couldn't
hear it anymore. So, like I said, maybe maybe thirty
seconds to get to the top of the levee, which
would be very quick for a human to crawl through

(15:44):
that levee itself, being probably twenty ei feet high.

Speaker 1 (15:50):
Yeah, that sounds pretty quick. And you have a good
point about this creature looking human like and like a gorilla,
because whenever I had my encounter, I found I'm this
photo on Pinterest that looked very similar to what I
had seen, and I showed one of my friends from
Minnesota and I said, man, I think this thing looks
very primate, and he said, I disagree. I think it

(16:11):
looks more human. So some people, from their perspective, they
think it looks more human to where others think it
looks more primate. So it's kind of hard to say.
I mean, when you look at a primate, you can say, man,
that thing looks so human.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
Sure, well, you got to imagine, you know, this thing.
If you think like I do, that this is truly
a biological or flesh and blood animal, then there has
to be variation in you know, each creature, you know what.
In other words, one creature doesn't look just like another creature,
just like one human doesn't look like another, So you
would expect, you know, there to be some degree of variation.

(16:47):
There are probably some I would guess that look more
purely ape like, and maybe some that look even more
human like than what I saw. So you know that
doesn't really I guess surprise me bothered me about it?

Speaker 1 (17:02):
Yeah, I would agree with that. And you've gone through
life and you've learned so much through your studies. You
became a cancer surgeon, and how did this encounter change
your perspective on how you perceive life?

Speaker 2 (17:19):
You know, I thought about that a lot at the time.
Like I said, I was only twenty years old, and
you know, at twenty most of us at least are
like me, didn't think much about you know, the nature
of life and things like that. We were mostly confused,
scared college students. You know. It took longer for me

(17:43):
to kind of put it in perspective. In other words,
I didn't I didn't know what to think about it
right then, and didn't just because we went back to
school or you know, we didn't think about it anymore,
so it was out of my mind. It took two
years later, actually, probably when I started noticing stuff about
it online, for me to really kind of re reevaluate
that experience and try to get an idea of and
I think of anything. I would say it made me

(18:07):
more open to looking at are looking into things that
might not really are. There are things we cannot prove.
That's that's the best way to put it. So it
made me more willing to at least, you know, hear
the stories of listen to the stories of read the
data of concepts or ideas or our experiences that we

(18:33):
can't actually prove objectively, you know, and who knows, maybe
somebody we will prove Bigfoot objectively and you know it
will be ables's solve this and we don't have to
do podcasts like this anymore, I guess. But I think
basically that's it. It's that it made me more willing
to look at subjects that are maybe not not fully

(18:56):
accepted by mainstream science.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
Yeah, that makes sense to me. And when you learn
or when you encounter a creature like this, you know
that there's so much that we're not being told. And
I don't know, I guess this is kind of off topic,
but I've heard that, you know, the powers that be
have the the cure, the treatment for cancer, and they

(19:23):
don't want to give it up because of money. Do
you think that's true? Have you ever wondered that whenever
you were doing any procedures on people that man, maybe
they have the cure for this, but they don't want
to tell ally.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
Yeah, yeah, I heard the same thing. I mean, you know,
that's it's that that's there's lots of talk about that
these days. And I don't think that's precisely true, But
I don't let the powers that be off the hook
that easily. Either. I'll tell you what I think is
that the quote powers that be, and I think in
terms of particularly in terms of cancer, the powers that be,

(19:55):
honestly are the pharmaceutical companies because they currently are putting
the vast amount, the vast majority of funding into cancer research,
much more than for example, a national Cancer Institute or
any other, uh you know, federal or nonprofit organization. So
as a result, the drugs that they develop are going

(20:18):
to pre The reason they're developing those drugs is not
to cure cancer per se or even the help cancer.
It's to make the pharmaceutical company money. And that's just
the nature of the beasts. You know. The pharmaceutical companies
are for profit businesses, capitalists society. Their number one goal
to their shareholders are a responsibility to their shareholders is

(20:38):
to make money. It's not to the general public to
cure them of cancer. You know, that's what they give
work lip service to doing, but that's not really what
they're doing. Hopefully, you know, there's enough integrity among enough
of us humans left on the planet that you know
that that they won't sell out completely. But there's no
doubt in their mind that the quote powers that be

(21:05):
are less honest than they would like us to believe.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
Oh yeah, absolutely. There's several times in my life where
I've had to take medication for something and it never
fixed the problem. It just put a band aid over it.
And it's like, man, this thing has ten side effects.
I'm trying to fix one problem and I'm experiencing four
or five other things? What do I do? And it
does seem like it's just something that they have to

(21:31):
make money, and it's sad. But yeah, I kind of
I agree with you that the pharmaceutical companies are making
money off of this. Corporations are making money, and I
think that's the main answer to what's going on with
all these hidden secrets, whether it's Bigfoot, UFOs, I mean,
whatever it may be. I mean, I truly feel like

(21:52):
if a scientist wanted to prove the paranormal, they could
easily do it. But I think it's just something they
can't control, and it's not something that you can have
like this controlled experiment and it's going to happen. But
I do believe that let's say you got five scientists
to go into this controlled building and they played with
Wuiji boards and did all this thing, like all these

(22:13):
things and documented everything. I think they would have things happen,
maybe not in that moment, but probably when they went
home or throughout their life. And it's just like something
you can't prove, but at the same time, I think
it's possible.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
Yeah, you know. I actually I've had a very similar
discussion of that with doctor Jeff Meldrum. He may have
heard of He's you know, he's all over the map
on Bigfoot. He's actually a professor of anthropology at Heidaho
State in Puncatel, a lot of it, and I went
up there a couple of years ago and talked to
him in his lay about various things, including obviously lots
of Bigfoot related stuff, and I kind of answer him

(22:49):
that question, you know, if you got it together or
if you had enough funding, so if the UNCI or
NIH or whoever took it seriously and really wanted to
fund to fund Bigfoot research in the way that they
do you know other things, do you think we can
make a difference? And he was unsure to you know,
to his credit, he did not say, oh, yeah, absolutely,

(23:10):
we can do this. You know, he says it's it's
a if it exists, it's a very elusive, relatively intelligent,
and relatively uncommon animal. In other words, there's not that
many of them. They know pretty well how to hide,
and they hide in places that you know, humans don't

(23:30):
really like to go that much. So could we find
them if we put an infinite amount of money into it?
He actually honestly answered, I don't know, and I don't either,
you know, I think that's one of those great mysteries.

Speaker 1 (23:44):
Yeah, that's a great question. And I have a lot
of respect for doctor Jeff Meldrum. And people say that
Sasquatch isn't real, it's a bunch of bs, it's a
fairy tale. But nobody has put in billions or even
trillions of dollars to research this, And if they have,
I'd like to know who it is, because from what

(24:07):
I've seen, it's just regular researchers. Maybe there's like a
TV crew that's put a lot of money into it,
but they're still using the same equipment that let's say,
you know what I would use as far as like
audio recorders, thermal devices, night vision. But who has actually
put in millions or billions of dollars into this, and
maybe they used thermal satellites and military grade equipment. I

(24:31):
don't know of anyone, but I'm sure the government has
or secret projects.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
It's you know, coming up from the bottom money, it's
not coming from above. In fact, doctor Meldrum told me
something interesting along that line. So not only is it
very difficult to get funded to do that kind of research.
You know, if you're at a research in research in
university as faculty, one of your big goals is to

(24:57):
get funded. You know, you want to pay your way there.
That that's what they you know, that's the way the
whole system is based around. And it's been a real
detriment to his career that there's no way for him
to try to get funded because nobody wants to put it.
There are no government agencies, there's no official nonprofits. There
are very few official nonprofits that wants you fund that

(25:17):
kind of research. So it's actually been a hardship for
his career, which I thought was interesting.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
Oh yeah, absolutely. Even if you're an artist, Let's say
you have this awesome song and it's just you singing
with your acoustic guitar, there's no way to get this
label or go big without letting someone else control your
music and completely change it from whatever style you had
to like pop music, and they'll just completely butcher it

(25:43):
and keep all the money. So it's like anything in
this life. If you really want to go big with it,
it's all going to be controlled.

Speaker 2 (25:52):
Seems that way sometimes.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
Yeah, it certainly does. You just have to do it
on your own and believe that that it's pop possible.
I'd like to get with doctor Jeff Meldrum and do
some research. I always knew that if if I found
Bigfoot tracks, I would send them in to Jeff Meldrum
just to see what he has to say about it.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
Oh yeah, no, I looked at many of the tracks
in his collection. It was just fascinating. He unfortunately has
recently had some health problems, so I'm not sure how
much longer he's going to be doing this, So you know,
keep in your prayers.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
Yeah, I absolutely will. This is another off the wall question.
Do you think the sasquatch can get cancer?

Speaker 2 (26:33):
Oh? Yeah, absolutely? What you know? Why not? I mean
almost any umm alien species on the planet can get
cancer of some kind, so why not?

Speaker 1 (26:45):
Yeah, I would agree with that. What do you think
is something that causes cancer the most.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
You know, there's a lot of exposures that for sure
calls cancer, and it's the predictable ones, you know, tobacco exposure,
sunlight exposure, you know, certain of the facts that we eat,
are diet, and then even more important probably are genetics
in others. What what you inherit from your parents that

(27:14):
put you at risk for certain cancers? And it's typically
most cancers are typically some combination of your inherited susceptibilities
and the elements that you are in contact with are
consumed or somehow get you know, get near you on

(27:34):
a regular basis, and somehow that is that very complex
interaction is what results of the cancer. Now, others you
can be and we've proven this many times, say, are
in tobacco smokers, not all of them are going to
get lung cancer. Even some of the heaviest smokers for
years and years decades will never get lung cancer. Well,

(27:55):
why is that when others do? Well? You have to
have the right combination of the right genetics that you
were inherited to make you susceptible to tobacco smoke. Now,
it's tobacco being one of the most parcinogenic things out
there more people tend to have those susceptibilities than do

(28:17):
most other things. But it's got to be some combination
of what you're born with and what you've lived through.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
Yeah, I agree, there's probably a lot of factors to
why people get cancer, whether it's too much sun exposure,
nicotine stress, I don't know, eating food from a microwave
too much, and like you said, genetics. I think possibly
the sasquatch have less of a chance of getting cancer
because they're eating natural food out in the forest as

(28:48):
far as like deer, squirrels, whatever vegetation. They can get
natural water, but it's hard to say because there's a
lot of pollutinants out there as far as like streams.
A lot of the fertilizers from farms drained into creeks
and they drain into the rivers. So maybe they're getting cancer,
and its possibility, you.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
Know, I'll tell you're right in the sense I think
that says quash probably get fewer click cancers than humans do,
but that may be largely because of lifespan. You know,
in general, humans didn't get cancers until are very few
until the Industrial Revolution, and that's because they weren't living

(29:29):
long enough in others, when your median life expectancy is
under fifty. We know most cancers in the US occur,
you know, over fifty in people over typically over sixty.
So if you're not living long enough to get cancer,
then it looks like, you know, your instance of cancer
is very low. Well, do we have no idea what
the bigfoot life expectancy is? What? I can't imagine it's

(29:49):
going to be a very large creature like that. I
can't imagine it's gonna be something like, you know, fifty years,
very large time made in the wild. So you know,
maybe they're not getting many cancers because they don't live
as long as we do. On the other hand, maybe
they get different cancers. I mean, other animals get different
kinds of cancer. I have a cat that had a
cancer on its ear and having respected actually, so we'd

(30:11):
like to say we have a cancer survivor in our house.
But it just gets different, you know. You presumably we'll
get different kinds of cancers than the human species would.

Speaker 1 (30:22):
Yeah, that makes sense, and yeah, humans are living to
be you know, they're living to a longer age in life.
But at the same time, we have these five G
cell phones that we have up to our head constantly.
We're watching TV and a lot of that stuff is
kind of newer. You know, no one has really in

(30:44):
the history of mankind watched Netflix for seventeen hours straight,
but you know it's something new. Yeah, we're living longer,
but we have more problems, I guess, is what I'm
getting up.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
We have more chronic diseases. I think that's the way
I would look at it. Now, are some of those
diseases results team from some of the exposures we put
ourselves to go?

Speaker 1 (31:02):
Oh yeah, probably, yeah, absolutely. And where you encountered this sasquatch?
Did you ever go back to the area to investigate
to see if you can possibly see another one or
find some tracks.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
You know, Like I said, we were living there that summer,
so we hung around there all the you know, this was,
like I said, in June, so we were there through August.
We never saw or heard anything again that, it would
absolutely swear was unusual. I never saw any any footprints.
We heard, you know, screens at night sometimes. Well we
knew we had matlins in that area, so they make

(31:38):
a screen and coyotes and they make screams like that.
So there's nothing we could absolutely swear, you know that
that was unusual. Since then, I've only been I've only
driven by a handful of times. So the ownership of
the property changed hands, and now I don't even know
who owns it. The family that owned it when I

(32:00):
was there is long gone, so you know, I don't
even have any access to it anymore.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
Okay, yeah, I appreciate your honesty. And have you ever
encountered anything paranormal in your life? I mean, during that
time frame that you've seen the Sasquatch or maybe whenever
you were doing a procedure, have you ever experienced anything
unusual that you can't explain?

Speaker 2 (32:23):
You know, they're certainly I'll put this away, but certainly
every cancer physician will tell you that there are things
that have happened in their experience they can't explain. Be
it something as simple as a patient who has a
very extensive disease and you would swear he's not going
to live out, you know, the week maybe, and then

(32:47):
ten years later they're alive. And well, all of us
who have been in the business any length of time
have experiences like that. You know, I think that's as
worthy of being called paranormal as anything. I have no
idea why, you know, something with a wide person with
a widely ministhetic cancer who is appears to be on
their deathbed suddenly has a go away and stay away

(33:10):
when we really did nothing that made any difference. So
you know, in my mind, that's paran orlean in of itself. Now,
having said that, I have we have a history, I
guess in that. Like I said, we live in and
have lived in New Orleans, Louisiana for many years. We
owned a big house in uptown New Orleans that was

(33:32):
built in eighteen eighty by a retired Confederate general, and
the general has been reported to be seen in the house.
All of myself and my family have never seen it.
We were watching, But I don't know whether the general
moved on after a while, or you know, maybe we
were boring to him, he just left. I don't know,

(33:52):
but that was a story about our house.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
Yeah, yeah, that's terrifying to know that. And whenever you
are doing these procedures your line of work, how did
you combat the stress? Like did it ever get to
you seeing these people that were somewhat hopeless and going
downhill rapidly?

Speaker 2 (34:16):
Oh? Yeah, all the time, that's you know, one of
the things that we we work on with our trainees
constantly is how to you know, how to keep yourself
from being affected by that. And one of the ways
we do that is we actually tell our trainees that
you have to make some kind of professional distance from

(34:39):
the patient. Even in people who you really like, you know,
you just you're attracted to them as you would be
somebody on the street. You know, just a nice person
and you'd like to be nice to them. You have
to maintain some kind of distance or what will happen
is when they get sick and die, you're going to
feel even worse about it. So and that's tricky to do,

(35:02):
and you're not always going to be successful in it.
And certainly some there are patients that I've tried to
maintain that distance from that I'm not have not been
completely able to and their illness and death have been
particularly difficult. But that's one of the things we teach
is to help help young physicians try to do to

(35:23):
manage those circumstances. And not all of them can do it.
You know, there are a lot of physicians who who
simply won't do oncology because they don't want to put
themselves in that situation, so hopefully it's sort of a
self selective thing.

Speaker 1 (35:37):
Also, Yeah, absolutely, I imagine it's extremely difficult to deal with that,
especially whenever you gain this relationship with the person and
you know, you try to tell yourself it's not going
to affect me, and later down the road, you know,
it hits you and you just can't control it. But
I guess you have to learn how to accept it

(35:57):
and move on and being professional about your your line
of work.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
Oh yeah, you know. I think the ones who who
that I would even struggle with would be the pediatric
oncologists who deal with, you know, with young children with
life threatening illnesses. I would find that I think even
more troubling or challenging. I don't think I would want
to do that.

Speaker 1 (36:20):
Yeah, no doubt about that. And that's the thing about
the Bigfoot topic is like there's just no answer to
why this is going on. You hear all these theories
that you know, it's it's a primate, you know, it's
a living species out there, and then you hear these
bizarre stories where you know, people seeing orbs around the
sasquatch or they just vanished, And I think That's one
of the keys to life is that sometimes there isn't

(36:42):
an answer, but you know it's truly happening. And you know,
why why would this little kid who's done nothing wrong
get cancer and die? Like why does he deserve that?
But this murder is living this life and yeah he's
in jail, but you know he's still getting fed and
getting taken care of and he just you know, you

(37:03):
wonder about these things and it doesn't make sense.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
Sure, just one of those those things we can't understand.
You know. It's just like you said, it's kind of
the same thing with Bigfoot. I mean, I will admit
I think if that, if that creature, whatever you want
to call it, exists, then it is in fact a
flesh and blood primate, maybe even a hominid that descended

(37:28):
from other hominids, maybe you know from hundreds of thousands
of years ago. You know, there's the so called Gigantopithecus
theory about a very large dominant that was in Asia,
you know, and could that have migrated across the Bearing
land bridge with early humans? Sure, and then it's developed
into what we know today, as saysquatch Uh, Yeah, I

(37:50):
think that's possible. Now just as you say, though, I've
heard plenty of people who have told me some of
the more extreme, parent normal things about it, you know,
like the bigfoots can cloak themselves, or they can you know,
they can uh do telepathy, they can contact you in
your mind, or you know, the ores and those things

(38:11):
like you mentioned. You know, I don't make fun of anybody.
You know, if if you think that's that's what you
solved and that's what you saw, you know, you just
have to take it at face value. And and then
you know, with for me, I take I accept that,
say yeah, okay, thank you, and then in my own
mind I kind of set that aside and think, okay,
what is real? You know, here's my my thought about that.

(38:34):
It would be very difficult for me to try to
solve a mystery with another mystery. In other words, the
mystery bigfoot. Oh it's an alien, but but aliens are
a mystery, you know. I mean, that doesn't solve anything.
So that's just kind of the way I go. And
I don't make fun of anybody. I'm certainly open to
anybody telling me what they think about it, and I

(38:56):
will be respectful of that. It's just you know, I
don't look at it that way.

Speaker 1 (39:02):
Yeah, I agree, and I guess anything is possible. Do
you think that the Sasquatch are possibly able to find
cures for their illnesses? I've heard with elephants in Africa
that they're hardwired within their DNA to seek out certain plants,
and then they consume certain plants and it kind of

(39:22):
mixes in their stomach. And I've even heard scientists say
that they possibly know the care to cancer.

Speaker 2 (39:28):
You know, I think it's possible, and I've heard variations
on that, you know, uh, scattered around for many years.
And why not. You know, if a creature learns way
back in its evolutionary past that if you eat this plant,
that it'll make you feel better basically, and then that

(39:51):
becomes a part of their both first their oral tradition
and then eventually their genetic tradition. Sure, that's possible. You know.
I don't know that I would say I know of
any any specific instances of it now, but it certainly
seems theoretically possible.

Speaker 1 (40:09):
Yeah, anything as possible. What do you think is the
main reason that we're not being told about Bigfoot?

Speaker 2 (40:16):
Hmmm? You know, I I here's what I will say
about that. I do think most law enforcement agencies that
have been involved with the phenomena are are are genuine
in their simple disdain. I think most of them don't
really have any secret knowledge. You know, if you talk

(40:38):
to the sheriff of your county that then somebody cames
comes up to him and claims he's seen a bigfoot.
You know, the sheriff's the guy you've known for twenty years.
He's very stable, good guy, he has no motivation and
you know, and trying to maintain some great conspiracy. I
think most of the most of the law enforcement are like that.

(41:00):
They don't really have any They're not trying to kind
any secrets. They just don't. They just hold the whole
topic in disdain in a sense, I don't want to
hear about it because I think it's silly and that's it. Now.
Are there some cases of potentially government or other agencies
that know more than that? You know? I think I

(41:23):
have to say that's possible. You know, we found out
a lot of things we didn't know about the government
in the last few years anyway, not necessarily bigfoot, but
that things that the government is doing that we don't
necessarily know about so again, I think it's theoretically possible.
I don't think the majority of law enforcement people are

(41:47):
quote in on it. I think most of them just
look at it, look down their nose, kind of at
the whole phenomena, and just kind of get a laugh
out of it.

Speaker 1 (41:54):
Yeah, I agree, And I've even interviewed in sheriffs who
have encountered these creatures, and you know, it's really changed them.
And there's not really much you can do. I mean,
you can't go to the chief or whoever's in charge
of the supervisor and push it. I mean, it's something
that you saw and it's unexplained and you have to
move on to the next case.

Speaker 2 (42:17):
That's exactly right, you know. That's why you know, you
think about Jeff Malgrm, why has he been stuck in
is you know, he is at his academic profile for
so long. It's because he's willing to say those things
to the balls who probably doesn't have any stake in
the game but just thinks it's kind of silly. It's
you know, we really don't want to mess with that here,

(42:38):
so it can be a detriment, you know, to speak
to authorities about it. I don't see certainly why people
would not want to.

Speaker 1 (42:48):
Yeah, absolutely, I mean I think it's worth studying. There's
so many people that have encountered these creatures. There's been
tracks that have been found, unknown hair samples, DM nay,
and strange videos. I think it's worth a shot. If
some scientists wanted to get together and possibly find the funding,

(43:10):
I think it'd be worth it. But then again, there's
the risk of spending your entire career and not finding anything.
There's a lot of researchers out there that have dedicated
their life to Bigfoot and just never seen one. And
I've heard it several times that I've spent my entire
life looking for Bigfoot and I've just never seen it.

Speaker 2 (43:29):
Oh yeah, no, I get it, and that would be frustrating,
you know. I think the answer, in terms of funding,
it's going to have to come from the private sector.
You know, There've been a handful of individuals over the
year who were wealthy enough to be able to fund
you know, big expensive expeditions of various times, and I
think that's the only way it's really going to be

(43:49):
that we're really ever going to get any significant funding
for that At that of the Satisquatch area of research.

Speaker 1 (43:58):
Yeah, I agree. I mean far as getting a group
together that has thermal satellite cameras and military equipment, I
don't think that's going to happen. And even things that
happened in the military, you know, they're told to keep
quiet about it, even if it's something that's not that
huge of a deal. You know, they're just not allowed
to talk about it. And you know, if you're in

(44:19):
the military, you kind of see that that they control
you and you don't really have any control over your
own independence. So that's just how it is.

Speaker 2 (44:31):
Yeah, and I think that's uh, you know, Yeah, that
contributes to the the reticence of many people, including myself
to some degree, to try to bring the tales forward
or the experiences forward that they that they've had.

Speaker 1 (44:47):
Yeah, that's certainly all we can do, and we can
just try to learn from each other and try to
obtain a bigger picture. Yeah, I think that pretty well
answers most of my questions. Rusty, and I really appreciate
you for being a guest on the channel and for
taking the time to talk about your Bigfoot encounter. And
I believe you, you know, I believe that you encounter this

(45:08):
creature and it's just always going to remain a mystery
until it's not.

Speaker 2 (45:15):
Oh, absolutely well, listen, I appreciate it very much and
I've just been a pleasure to be on with you.
Thank you so much.

Speaker 1 (45:21):
Yeah, thank you so much. And if you ever encounter
anything else in the future, feel free to reach back
out to me.

Speaker 2 (45:27):
You bet, I will you take care, all right, you
have an excellent day.

Speaker 1 (45:33):
All right, Rusty, thank you very much for sharing your bigfoot.
I cite an encounter from the state of Arkansas, and
it really makes sense that these creatures are following the
waterways and that's where the Native Americans chose to live
back in the day, so it makes sense why the
sasquatch creatures are found around water. And Doug Hijack calls
them water apes, and I believe that that is true

(45:55):
because all life needs water. And yeah, I have I
had to ask some off the wall questions because I've
heard a lot of theories that elephants will eat certain
plant life and get a certain mixture in their stomachs,
and they talked about how they possibly could have the

(46:16):
cure for cancer, and I believe that's true. I feel
like nature is hardwired to know what they need to consume,
and humans they're losing touch with nature, and in turn,
we are seeing a lot more diseases and illnesses taking
place nowadays, even though humans live longer. I don't think
that's necessarily true either, because the Bible talks about people

(46:38):
like Moses or even Noah that live to be hundreds
of years old, and you hear that a lot in
the Old Testament. And also there's stories of old timers
even today, people that live to be over one hundred
years old, and they didn't have the treatment that we
have nowadays. And like I said, there's a lot more
illnesses today than what there was back then. So I
think people back in the day live long because there

(47:00):
was a lot more natural things going on in the world.
But I don't really know. If you guys enjoyed this video,
please like, subscribe, and comment down below, And if you
have a bigfoot encounter you would like to share, please
feel free to get in touch with me. All right, guys,
you take care and until the next one, be safe
out in the forest.

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