Bigfoot Encounters near Charlotte, NC – Tom’s Incredible Stories of Sasquatch | Standing By The Road - SASQUATCH THEORY

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Welcome back to Sasquatch Theory. In this episode, I sit
down with Tom from North Carolina, who has had some
of the most fascinating and chilling bigfoot encounters you'll ever hear.
From riding his motorcycle past the sasquatch that stood motionless
in the woods, to finding mysterious tree structures pointing toward water,
Tom has experienced it all, along with strange orbs in

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the forest, dog man encounters, and even a supernatural experience
that left him with a sense of peace. Tom's story
takes us deep into the mysteries surrounding Charlotte, North Carolina,
and beyond. You don't want to miss this one. If
you have a bigfoot encounter that you would like to
share with me, please get in touch with me sometime.

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And if you guys can like the video, subscribe to
the channel and be sure to comment down below. With
all that being said, let's dive into Tom's bigfoot encounters
from the state of North Carolina. All right, Tom, welcome

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Sasquatch Theory. How are you doing today.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
I'm doing real good. I hope you are as well.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
Absolutely, and it's a pleasure to have you on the
show today. Tom if you would tell me a little
bit about yourself, where you're from, and your experiences from
the very beginning, please sure.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
So I am born and raised in North Carolina. You know,
kind of grew up It's pretty common around these areas,
you know, hiking, a lot of outdoors activities, hunting, you know,
just playing in the woods. As a kid, you know,
spent a lot of time in the woods, you know,
in the general southeastern North Carolina as well as the
North Carolina Mountains. You know, I've always kind of been

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really infatuated with I'm in my mid fifties, by the way,
so I guess a lot of people kind of got
their start this way from the you know, the legend
of Boggy Creek. I was a kid watching that, and uh,
kind of it just it just piqued my interest, and
that interest is just kind of never going away. Never
thought I'd have any experiences of one, you know, just

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nothing like that. So just it's just always anytime something
came up or show was coming on or anything like that,
I was just always really really interested in it, and
I had never seen anything, heard anything, probably until about
I must say, probably five or definitely within the last
ten years, I'll say between five to ten years. And

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it's kind of funny because you know, you don't see
what you've never been shown to see kind of thing.
So I've been going to the same places, you know,
my whole life, hanging out and stuff like that, and
just didn't even really know what, you know, what structures
were or any of that kind of thing. And you know,
I go to some places now and there's a lot
of places I think it's obviously you know, the Channel

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does a good job of spreading that that you know
that it's everywhere. You know, it's just not all over
where I live. It's all over the country the world.
You know, there's there's just things to be seen that
you know, people think they know what it is. You know,
I couldn't sit here and say for sure I know
what these things are or aren't, but you know, everybody's
got their opinion based on their experiences. So that's kind

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of how I got into it. I started seeing these
structures and stuff like that, and I was still am
I mean, I'm just like fascinated by when somebody pointed
them out to me, and these things. When I say
everywhere the places I go hiking and and stuff like that.
They're everywhere, and you know, people are walking around just
like I guess I did for fifteen or twenty years,

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just don't notice a single thing. I'm not sure if
you have, if anybody's ever kind of brought that up before,
you know, you know, just it's just weird, just just
never saw anything. But so, you know, in the last
five or six years, I've got some places who I'll
go and put out food. It just kind of interact
and I'm not really a person that goes out. I

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do a lot of solo in the woods, so I
don't really spend the night and those type of areas alone.
So most of my stuff is during the day. But
you know, i'll put food out, it'll be taken. I'll
put it in places where it's you know, very very
difficult for like a deer to get to or sure
I'm not saying they're not taking it, but animals aren't.
I'm sure there are some of the time, but they'll

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be like signs like I'll leave it a little time
coming out and it'll be turned around the other way,
so I put it in the same spot. So that
I've been doing that for a while. I've had one
visual sighting for myself where and the second one that
I've called into a picture when me and my son
are in the mountains. But the first one, I was

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riding my motorcycle and I was coming through a little
area where there's you know, a lot a lot of
stuff in the woods there, and I guess it was
kind of like a really sharp kind of s turning
kind of thing. But I mean, I was literally going
about ten miles an hour and just kind of turned
to the left. I'm not sure if I was turning
to look at something or soul the nerds or turn.
I don't remember that part, but just kind of turned

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around and just saw one probably about fifty yards away
or something, you know, give or take twenty or thirty feet.
I'm not that great with those type of distances. But
it wasn't one hundred yards and it was a twenty
you know what I mean. It was about fifty yards
and it was just kind of a you know, a brown,
dark brown, not black, but a dark brown, just you

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just figure sustaining there kind of I don't know if
it froze when I turned around. I got the impression
and it was kind of turned to the side just
a little bit, like I not completely sideways, but I'm
looking at like three quarters you know, if you're at
your front and you just turn turned slightly a little bit,
and it was just kind of frozen. So I don't
know if it was curious about my motorcycle. It's really loud,

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you know, watching me because I come from for a
long time. You know that same area. You know, it's
where I hike and stuff as well, So that part,
I'm not sure, but it just was kind of it.
The weirdest thing was, I don't know how to explain it.
I feel dounbe for saying is the weirdest thing of
all of it was is I looked at it, saw
it clear as day, turned turned back forward and just

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kept writing and didn't even like, I'm not sure if
my brain was processing it, because it's not like I'm
not somebody who's not familiar with sasquats, hasn't watched a
million videos and you know, been kind of very interesting
for a while, and just was completely, uh, you know, dumbfounded.
I didn't feel shocked like some people say they are,
and anyway, I don't even think it changed my blood

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pressure mood. I can't explain that reason, but for I
didn't look back. The weirdest thing ever. I mean, you know,
as I'm sitting here telling you, if you'd asked, hey,
what would you do in the situation, you know, I
would probably sad the brakes on and you know, get
off my bike and look at it, try to get
a picture out. I don't know, but just clear as
day you could could kind of see everything, you know what,

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you know, just a vivid image in my mind that man,
I wish I would have looked again. I just don't
know why I didn't. Unexplainable.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
Yeah, and can you give some contexts as to what
you were doing that day? Maybe a general area you
don't say the exact location, but was it like southern
North Carolina Eastern?

Speaker 2 (07:19):
Yeah, it was just kind of on the outskirts of Sharlotte,
North Carolina, so less than an hour from Norst, Carolina,
and you know some woods areas that's you know, I
guess the image of the pain is like hiking trails.
There's water kind of Nearbible. People you know, canoe kayak
that kind of thing. It's not a super crowded place,
you know, it's not when these places I know we

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live at different states. I'm sure there's a place I
could probably mention here and you probably have some of
the same where. You know, if you want to go
hiking on a Saturday, you know there's one hundred cars
in a parking lot and you're passing fifty people on
a trail. That's not that kind of thing. You know,
regardless of what you're doing out in that area, you know,
you may see two or three other people that day.
I mean I've gone out there hiking for four or
five hours. I've never seen the soul, so it's it's uh,

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you know, people go there, but it's not super crowded.
So I had just been riding my motorcycle that particular day.
Like I said, this is an area I go too
frequently because I enjoy you know, I kind of find
my peace in the woods. I like to get out
and relax in the woods. You know. I don't slowly
normally go out just looking for like you know, sasquatch
type activity, but it kind of blends to you know,

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I like to get there and relax and walk around.
I feel most comfortable in the woods. And of course
while I'm out there, I noticed things I have a
very sharp eye for noticing certain things, that kind of thing.
But to answer your question, that particular day, I don't
think I was doing much. It was a week day.
Was pilling around that morning and just went for a
motorcycle ride. And I think it was kind of on
my way back when I just came to that little

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area when I was going very slow, five or ten
miles an hour and turned around. And look, that's what
makes me so mad. It wasn't like I was going
seventy and caught a glimpse and by the time you
turn back around, you know, you may be pretty far
on there. I just there's no you know, I don't
have an explanation Friday to turn around. Maybe it may
be not around, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
Yeah, and what stuck out when you saw this creature?

Speaker 2 (09:07):
Uh? I feel cliche saying this, but just because I
know how big we are. But even though I knew
instantly kind of what I was looking at, just the
sheer size or the shoulders, and it was just huge.
You know, I don't know, I don't I thought it
over and over. You know, I hate to speculate because
you know, people just attached that exact same size with it.

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You know, if I said nine ft everyothy, it's nine
v If I said seven and seven, I would say
if I was gonna guess eight, I mean it was
taller than Sequila the Meal, but it wasn't like ten
feet tall. You know, I've heard people say this stuff
like that, but I'd have to say it was probably
around eight feet tall. You know, maybe nine, maybe seven,

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but eight would be my best educated guess without trying to,
you know, make it into a fishing till.

Speaker 1 (09:58):
Yeah, that's a huge creature. So just took off into
the woods. Did it ever look Okay?

Speaker 2 (10:03):
It never moved so so I when I was hiding
my bike motorcycle, I looked back to the Uh, like
I said, I just glanced over my right shoulder and
I don't know why, and uh, it was just standing there,
just completely still. It never made a movement. So that's
why I wasn't sure. If you know, I know, they're

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pretty well moved from flanking people in the woods and stuff,
following people out and it's like it's always kind of
like a forty five being at your back. I don't know,
maybe it was following me, like they did a brief
run and wasn't you know, checking my bike out or
the loud noise, and maybe I turned around and caught it,
but it was completely still when I saw it. But
you know, you can see the detail in the hair,

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the face, everything. I mean, it wasn't like, you know,
this wasn't a mistaken stump identity or anything like that. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
Absolutely, Maybe it just stood still so you wouldn't see it,
or maybe it wanted you to see it.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
Yeah, both of those two thoughts were kind of the
rest of that day. What was going through my head.
It was like either either I I turned around and
caught it moving and it just wanted to stop. Maybe
I didn't see it, and part of me kind of
felt like it was so the you know, it wasn't
like it was behinding behind a tree. It's a it's
a wooded area that not super thick, right, you know,
with the trees, or you can see like if I'm

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standing edge of the woods right there, I can easily
see back in the woods, you know, one hundred yards,
so it's a wooded area, undeveloped, but it's not so
thick or you can't see ten feet back, so I
clear as day. So you know, I don't know if
it's something wanting back there so often, and I think
you've told you my tech. We can get that later too.
Where there's a certain area where I pick up trash
and I feel like they're putting it there. I don't

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know why else anybody would put little pieces of glass
and stuff, but I've been doing that for a long time.
I always like pick up the glass and take it
with me. I don't know if it was maybe interested
in me because it knew that I was the person
doing that that. I really don't know, I really do.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
Yeah, it's absolutely incredible, and I can't remember.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
That wasn't that long ago? Dude, Yeah, that was only
an a couple of months ago.

Speaker 1 (12:06):
Oh wow, So this is a recent sighting. Did you
find tree structures in that area prior to that encounter
or even after.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
Hundreds when I tell you there's three structures there, I
don't understand why most other people don't see it. It's
like I said, you don't see what you're not shown.
Because I've been going to this area in the whole life.
I've never noticed it until you know, I started to
seeing more the tree structures and stuff like that on
a lot of the YouTube videos and stuff like that
and reading the line, you know, just because I'm just
always been very interested in sasquatch. But they're everywhere. I mean,

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I could go out there right now and take fifty
pictures of you know, I sent you a few pictures.
I mean, all those I've taken, you know, within the
last I think most of them, probably within the last
couple of weeks. Maybe they right been one I since
it was pretty old. But yeah, I mean there, I
don't even I think I told you. I know you
talked to a lot of people. But I've taken so
many pictures the tree structures, Like, I don't even take

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pictures anymore unless it's something just extraordinary. But it's always
different if I went if I went there, let's say,
if I went on a half a mile just sort
half a mile hike. If I went there, like on
a Monday and Wednesday and a Friday, there's always something different.
You know that big tree I showed you that was

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perfectly parallel to the ground with a with that other
love that had been split in half, that was made
a perfect cross. You know, it was almost symmetrically directly
in the middle. That's that's why I feel like sometimes
I can tell us anything. It's like it's it's too
perfect to be natural kind of. But you know that
that that was done within the last probably five six days,
I'm guessing. I can't remember exactly what now, I went

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out there and then I went out there either yesterday
or the day before and took that photo. I think
it was the day before yesterday. It was before.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
Yeah, And can you elaborate on some of these structures
that you found? What are the most complet structures you've found,
and what do you think they are?

Speaker 2 (13:58):
So, you know, I think sasquatch is doing it, but
you know, I haven't seen one do it. So I
know there's a bunch of different levels of logic when
it comes to sasquatch and stuff like that. So I
consider myself a realist. I just look at stuff for
what it is. So the stuff that intrigues me is
the stuff that I'm looking at. And there's literally no
way that trees can fall like in pixie sticks, you

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know what I mean, and make this crazy like that's
what I had to fall first? Then how is this
one on top of that one? Then how is this
on top of that one? So you know, there's definitely
I'm not a person that walks in that area that
has so many structures and every single tree is leaning
on another tree or bent over or something like that.
I don't think every single one of those are you know,
are potentially done by sasquatch. I know, there's a lot

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of things that can look like sax fat structures that
are natural, and I think that's there and this is
just my belief. I think that they do it, and
so it looks natural because I'll stand there and what
I like to do is, you know, the structures is
one of my favorite things is just standing there and
stay at it because a lot of times people walk
by and they look at it for ten seconds and

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take a picture. But I found that if I stand
there for like ten minutes, I just keep noticing other
stuff and I'm sitting there and I'll reach a point
on some of these things. You know, we're like this
limbs and arts and it's been over on this one
and there's another x you know, folding on this one.
That kind of stuff. I just sit there and I
just thinking there, you know, there's there's just no way

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this could happen. Actually, you know, the branches that weigh
you know, hundreds of pounds, aren't even from there, you
know that that kind of stuff. But I see a
lot of you know, the parallel trees, and some of
them are big, you know, some aren't that big. But
one I saw maybe a couple of months ago, was
probably about a big round like if you put your
arms and a loose you know, as big as a

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circle as you can make your arms. That's how big
the base of it was. But it was it was going,
but it was perfectly parallel to the ground. It was
probably about forty or fifty feet long, and it's just
wigs like left right, left, right, left right between I mean,
like you know, eight or nine other trees, which is
what's holding it up. Like you know, there's just no
way it can fall between like that because there's other

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trees dirted in the way. And then the base of it,
which is clearly snapped off. You know, it didn't look
like an old tree. I'm failiar with that tree falling,
he said, I have a lot of expence in the wood,
so it was fairly fresh snapped off, and the tip
of it was like balanced on another tree that had
been broken off. But you could see that the trees
didn't match. I couldn't even figure out how it got

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it there. I mean, I could take my ten strongest
best friends there and we couldn't recreate that, you know,
so it didn't even look like it could have fallen
that way. But I see a lot of those, a
lot of the arches. You know, there's you know, hundreds
of arches, I would say out there. You know, sometimes
there'll be like eight or ten just kind of right together,
and you know, and I could look at a tree

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and I try to look, okay, to do another tree
fall catch the top of this and bend it down,
but there's no other tree around it. And then the
arch is in a perfect semi circle. It looks like
it was drawn with a comp us. And then the
tip of it's held down by another tree that's laying
on the ground that's snapped off that doesn't come from
that location. A lot of x the xes are some

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of my favorite things, especially there really big ones. There's
a there's a picture I can think of. It's like
there's like a pole about a tree, a tree with
no limbs completely cleaned off, you know, work It's like
the bear bear wood it's leaning at like a forty
five or six Stevy gr angle, and that thing's probably
as big around as my waist, maybe twenty five feet tall.

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And then there's a huge act another tree that's forming
the X at the top of it, and then there's
another tree that's forming another AX at the bottom of it.
And then they see that they're making the X on
the big pole are perfectly perfectly you know, geometrically parallel.
It's the stuff that, you know, some of the stuff
that's just so perfect seems to stick out to me

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a lot. But there's a tree that was I'm trying
to think of some of the ones that just come
to mind. You want me explain the type. So I see,
there's there's a place where there's a tree that, uh
like for it to fall naturally, it was had to
fall on and it's still alive. And then it split
these other two trees into a perfect V. And they're

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all just like to the trees leaing kind of on
the ground. And then these other two huge trees are
forming or forming like you know, like a protractor grade
perfectly perfect V. And those as sticking up like thirty
or forty feet each side, and then of course there's
all the other kind of you know, stuff weaved, you know,
the typical sef you see whe stuffs weaved in together
like a very intricate weaving. And you know, like ten

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or twelve trees that I describe it as almost like
they'll things you play with when you're a kid, the
pixie sticks. You know, they're just in this weird formation
where just make any logical sense. Like sometimes I'll look
at some of these things and I don't even think
I could figure out, like if the tree was going
to fall naturally or something. I don't even think I
could figure out how to make some of this if

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I was stone, was a sasquartch. I feel like they're smart.
I don't even think I could recreate some of these structures,
even if I was stone enough. You know, a lot
of that stuff there's no way a human was doing
you know, probably couldn't even do it with the chainsaw.
But I'm just always very very fascinating with the structures.
I've rented a mountain house. I know, I told you,

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I don't know if this is really a sighting because
I saw it in a picture. But me and my
son were playing. It's kind of funny. I felt like
I was watching as we were wearing the same shirts.
Me and my son and my dog were playing in
a pretty popular area in western North Carolina. I'm not
too far from the Nanahala. We're just playing in a
little river and know people go through their tubing and stuff.

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I saw a bunch of tree brakes and stuff like that.
I didn't really have sasquatch on the mine. We're more
just you know, hiking with my son. But when I
got back home, there was one that was I don't
even know what made me zoom in, to be honest
with you, because it's kind of off in the distance.
So I took a selfie kind of you know, facing us,
and then if you look in the back, there's one

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kind of it's really wooded, and he's elevation wise, it's
probably I mean, this is kind of an a ravine
or gorge where it's very rocky for familiar western North Carolina,
and the two sides go up probably one hundred feet
at a at a not super steep angle that maybe
forty five degrees to the river's kind at the bottom
of this, and i'd sail. It's halfway up the gorge

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whatever you want to call it, maybe fifty to seventy
five yards, so you've never noticed it, I mean, fact
does zoom in on my camera for whatever word reason,
would have never seen it. But it's like the tree
is about maybe a fourth as wide as the sasquats,
but it's kind of at its left side, like completely

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perpendicular to me, and the body of it, which is
kind of hidden by trees. You can kind of make
out the darkness of it because it doesn't match anything else.
If you're looking at it would be to the right
of the tree, and then the head is kind of
looking around, you know, to the tree and that image.
I feel like there's different types of sasquatch, you know,

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the more from what I've seen. This is just my
visualizations of watching hundreds of videos and stuff like that.
I'm not talking about the ones that are clearly fake,
the ones at least you think are really There seems
to be ones that are mostly black, and I feel
like most of those are kind of more ape, like
the kind of cinnamon uh and tannish ones. I feel
like a kind of semi human kind of in between

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as far as the face and I think the body's
on my little bit about the same. And then the
gray ones that I've seen, you know, the kind of
darkest gray, light of gray, kind of that silver back color.
Those to me seem like they have the more human
human face. It's almost like they're wearing a hoodie. But
this is exactly what this one looks like. You know,
he looks like he's wearing it. That's what you in
a friend of mine when we talked about. Yeah, that
looks pretty real to me, Like you see a video

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or something like that. He's that gray hoodie. You listen,
we don't even know about that. I'm trying to fake video.
But this one was one of those what I call
kind of the gray kind. You know. The one I
saw a couple of months ago was brown and kind
of had more ape like face with humanistic features. Maybe
I would say where this one looks a little more human.

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But the face is that pale is gray white. You know,
the fur it's hard to see because it's kind of
the it's blocked by a lot of the trees and
stuff that it's more of a human like face. Yeah,
that picture is not. That picture is not it's not
super crystal clear, but if you, i'd say fifty of
the people. I don't. I haven't said to a lot

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of people, but you know, some people like, oh yeah,
you know, you know it is you to see it
or you don't it looks. I mean I knew what
it was instantly, and I wasn't looking for basically. I
was kind of zooming there and looking at the trees
and stuff, and it just kind of shot out at me.
But yeah, that that was that one. And then the
one that it kind of took me by surprise was

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a family member of mine who hikes with them sometimes
and we talk about it. I don't really talk about
the stuff a ton of people, to be honest with you.
I mean, it's not like if somebody comes up and
talks to me about it, I won't. I just I just,
you know, I just don't walk up to somebody at
work and say, hey, did you see big for today?
And that kind of thing. But I was driving out
and this is kind of near Page in South Carolina.

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I kind of that kind of headed out that direction,
maybe somewhere between. I don't remember the exact PenPoint location
of it, but this was probably about six months ago.
I never really believe in Dogma, and I thought if
people saw a dog man that I'm not saying. I
didn't think people were lying. I just thought that that

(23:46):
was a mistake and identity of big food. I guess
the way a lot of people think that if you
see a sasquads, that's the mistaken identity of a beggar.
So I didn't really wouldn't something I thought about a
lot or you know, I have reports and all this
stuff and that kind of thing that I guess I
hadn't seen really video was like I have of a
dog man. But it's funny. The person that was riding
with me just makes fun of me. We joke about
it because you know, he doesn't believe in Bigfoot and

(24:11):
just kind of joking with me sometimes. It's kind of
like a kind of joking jab each other kind of
thing that we do. But we were coming up, you know,
going down there, and there's a lot of structures, you know,
in some of these places because it's it's kind of undeveloped,
you kind of get out in the rural area, but
there's a lot of structures on I see him on
both sides of the road, and he kind of gets
mad at me when I'm pointing stuff like that. He

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didn't want to hear about it, so they say please
stop talking about it or something like that. And I'm
doing it mostly joking, kind of mess with him. It's
not like I'm really sitting there trying to bother him.
But all of a sudden, he just he just said, Dad,
I just saw he mentioned my dog's name. He said,
I just so and so only, but it was it

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was standing up, and I was like, what are you
talking about? I had no idea as far as he
was talking about he because it just just like my
dog's very muscular, kind of pit bullish looking. It's not
a tit bull, if you can think about that mentality,
like with the really thick muscular legs. And he said, yeah,
I just saw something standing up. It looked just like
the dog did, super muscular legs. He said, if the
dogs stood up, you know, because my dog will sometimes

(25:16):
stand up and put your uh put his uh. I
was about to say hands. He didn't have hands. His
feet on your chest. And you know, if you're looking
at him from behind or directly for them, you know,
you unmistakeable non human like just doll legs, right, and uh,
he said, yeah, I just saw something that. Uh And
I never heard him say the word dog man, not

(25:37):
even sure if he knew what a dog man was,
but he said, I just saw that. And I was like,
are you serious and he said yeah, and he said
there was another one laying down, laying down on the
ground beside me, and as soon as and as soon
as it saw me looking at it, it vanished. And
I was like, wow, I mean, this is a kid.
It doesn't believe in anything, and uh, you know, making

(26:00):
fun of me about sasquats and stuff like that. And
that was kind of a weird experience for me because
you know, I'm okay with the sasquats being in the
woods and like I said, I'm not scared of being
the animals that I was born and raised with. For
some reason, they don't think anything, you know. I have
that in the back of other land now sometimes not
if I'm just going you know, the hiking trails or
if i'd go out deep in the woods or something,

(26:21):
I definitely have that on my mind. I had never
thought about that before. And what amazing by it was
just you know, who told me that they were a
non believer and something that I have if I'm jumping
around a little bit, but don't let me know. But
what I was gonna say is is I was one
of those people that probably up until five or six

(26:43):
years ago though maybe that I just thought that sasquatch
was a primate, you know, and a lot of people
like some people were like, well, there's no way that
could live in the woods. Yeah, go try to find
a similar back gorilla in the woods. You know, they'd
have to have like trackers track them for hours, and
you know, they can they know we're you're at before
you know where they're at, so they could easily stay
away from you. And I just thought it was one

(27:04):
of those kind of things. But you know, i've heard
people talking about them whatever you want to call it, cloaking,
vanishing like that since since I kind of or no,
this was before the dog Man siding a sunhab, but
the I've seen some videos on YouTube. There's one, you know,

(27:24):
I have seen it. I think most people have seen
them all where it was like a trail came or
something and it was like three or four sab squats
around a car or something. They're almost kind of translucent looking.
And I've also seen a video online a couple of
years ago where it was literally on It was really
on more of a ghost type video, but it was

(27:45):
the lower body of something just sprinting, you know, full speed.
Like I can't rememb if it was across a parking
lot or woods yard, but I was just like, the
first thing that's still out my mind was is that
kind of looks like the gate of a you know,
a bigfoot that the big knees coming out and stuff.
But anyway, you know, so I've kind of kind of
started to think more maybe they're more cryptied, Like I mean,

(28:07):
that's kind of what I think these days, where I
was the person that laughed at people, not laugh it's
nice face, you know what I'm saying that I'm a
pretty respectful person in my nature, but just kind of
jokingly internally like, yeah, these people are a little KooKoo,
you know, you know, cryptids vanishing. But you know there's
I've seen orbs so that there's something to it that

(28:28):
that we don't all know. There's more to it than
I can explain. Maybe that's the easiest way to say it,
But I I know what he saw that day, and
I know the way he described it was just almost
like he was drawing it and drawing it. My mind
was a paint brush, you know. Yeah. Now he won't

(28:49):
talk about it. He does not like to talk about
that all. He doesn't like, he doesn't get angry or
one of these people were like traumatizes them. He just
doesn't want to talk about it. So sometimes I'll say something,
you know, like check that structure out, we haven't seen
that before, and he goes, you know, he's joking, picking
at me. You know, it fell that way. You know,
anybody can tell you that it's just human nature. And

(29:09):
I was like, well, what part of human nature was
that dog man on the side of the road with
his buddy laying beside him, like you know, you know,
just you know, that kind of thing. He doesn't like
to talk about it, which I guess it's pretty common.
I'm so intrigued by that type of stuff that I'm
interested in it. You know, I'm interested in hearing what

(29:31):
other people. Obviously you are while you have your show,
but I'm very interested kind of like yourself, I guess,
and I like to hear other people's stories. You know,
you don't always have to agree with everyone, because nobody
really in my opinion, I'm sure there are from people
that have had uh, you know, first hand contact. You know,
you've heard of people meeting families of them and stuff.
I've heard that over the years. But generally speaking, I

(29:52):
think we all have our opinions, but nobody truly knows
what's going on. But I do. I do think it's
more to it than we know.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
Yeah, absolutely, the logical mind will be skeptic of the
cryptid phenomenon. But also people who encounter something like a
dog man, they'll also bury it in the back of
their mind and try to never resurface that memory. Just
talking about it really brings people, you know, trauma, pain,

(30:23):
bad memories, or they just don't want to think about it.
And also it's the ridicule too. You know, even someone
who's seen Bigfoot, if you tell them you've seen a
dog man, even the bigfoot people will sometimes roll their eyes.
But these things are out there, and I feel the
same as you. Like when I'm out there doing research,
especially when I'm camping at night walking through the woods,

(30:44):
I think of dog man because I heard one when
I was like eleven or twelve years old, and this
thing howled so loud it was demonic and just disturbing.
And I've never been able to wipe that from my memory.
It always resurfaces when I'm out there in the woods
at night.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
Yeah, and for some reason for me. And it's funny, like,
I mean, if me and you went together, would we
really be any safer from one of these streets then
if we're a loan But I feel a whole lot
better when I'm with somebody then you know when I'm alone.
But but you know, he saw that this thing was like,
you know, we're imagine kind of kind of painting a picture.

(31:20):
We're driving out to an area that's kind of headed
toward Page and that kin out in the country, so
you know, you might see a few houses and maybe
a neighborhood here, and you don't see anything for a
couple of miles and that that kind of thing. And
so this was like right off the road. It wasn't
like he was seeing this two hundred yards away, you know.
I asked him. I was like half far through it,
and he's like, right, brother, I'm like, are you talking

(31:41):
about like thirty days? Like, like, I mean, I think
the best way to explain it is like ten or
fifteen feet off the road, you know, sist into the
tree line. But like I said, that area, it's not.
There's definitely some areas that were so thick you couldn't
see ten feet into the tree line. But this was
another area maybe a little thicker than like where I
had my sighting, but you know, you definitely could see
twenty or thirty yards in there pretty easily. So to

(32:03):
see something ten or fifteen feet, I mean, he's he's
saw a clear as day. You know, he's just gritting
stuff like he's the sky in a picture. He just standed. Yeah,
that's the thing for me. That definitely that because I
was not expecting that. You know, when you hear a
story like that from somebody that is a one percent nonbeliever,
that that that's the best story that exists to me.
You know, I'm sure there's somebody listening that you know,

(32:24):
they think of everything I'm saying is a lie. You know,
it is what it is. But I don't have any
reason of love about anything, So I don't know everything.
I don't pretend to know everything. There's people that I've
had way more experiences than me. I just feel like
I'm really drowned in nature. Like when I go out
into the woods, I feel like some people are just
going in there to to see if they can get
two miles, and they're looking at their watch to see

(32:46):
how many calories he burned and stuff like that. I'm
going into the woods to appreciate the woods. That's just
I love the woods. And then when I was a child,
you know, me and my friends played in the woods
until my parents made us come in, and that was
pretty much every day. So I'm out there looking at
all the trees, just appreciate the beading, the opposite of
a phone and television, that kind of thing.

Speaker 1 (33:08):
Yeah, that's what it's all about, just getting out in
nature and refreshing your mind. But I think it's typical
for people, even people in North Carolina, to think, well,
I don't know if I believe in these things. If
they do exist, they're probably out west in the mountains
or the Yuari National Forest. And I've found structures in Greenville, Spartanburg,

(33:29):
South Carolina, next to developed areas, like there'd be these
patches of pine trees and there's just structures all over
the place, and like you said, people drive right past
them and they never even notice them.

Speaker 2 (33:41):
And it's it's everywhere by Charlotte.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
Like there's King's Mountain. There's been sightings there, and that's
just right outside of Charlotte, you know, a big city,
a lot of people, and it's wild how close these
things are to people. And the logical mind will think
that they're either in the Pacific Northwest or just been
a huge set of woods. But these things have the
ability to hide from people and pretty much plain sight.

Speaker 2 (34:07):
Yeah, there's some main roads not too far from my
live you know, right right in southern South Charlotte, where
just on the side of the road that there's one
of my favorite arts is it's a tree. I'll snap
a picture. I'm sitting in my carn the picture that
it's funny, I've never taken a picture. So this is
at a hospital about a four wayear or a three

(34:28):
way intersection that gets back to a five o'clock traffic
for probably a mile and literally right right at this intersection.
I think it's one of my favorite ones just because
of where it is. But it's a it's a it's
a tree that is uh, there's a little pond there,
you know. I feel like a lot of these trees
that are broken over and the tree breaks. Seems like
a lot of them, won't say all the point toward water.
But this tree, when I say point toward water, it's

(34:50):
like thirty yards from the pond. But there's a tree
that's probably about foot dam it or maybe a little bigger.
And you know, there's no bark on it's got that
kind of it's almost like it's made out. I feel
like sometimes you know where it's got the yellowish looking bark.
And then it's it fell like perpendicular to the street,
pointing toward that little pond. This is in a guy's

(35:11):
yard kind of. It's kind of a big yard and
it's overgrown. It's wooded close to the road. But and
then there's a perfect arch where it looks like maybe
a limb, you know, all the limbs are broken off
the tree that fell, and then there's like a little
nub or stuff. I can't remember exactly what that's holding
that the smaller tree, which is probably I don't know,
three inches in diam there maybe a little bit or smaller,

(35:33):
but it's you know, you know how that you know
how the arch is it's always held down by something.
I'm assuming you know what I'm talking about where it's
just in a perfect art. It's literally if I was
sitting in my car right now, it's not like I
could look over and I could probably throw a pustasio.
I said, Oh, I said, but it's kind of crazy.
It's it's all over here. If anybody listening is anywhere

(35:55):
near this area, look on either side of the road
Highway one, you know, like if we were headed like
toward like the Raleigh area. I mean, there's hundreds of
arts and structures. You know, don't looking at it, but
there's stuff all up and down both sides of the road.
Back in his words, it's completely underdeveloped. I think it's
I don't know if it's government lane or city lane

(36:16):
where they had those you know, every one hundred yard
you have those same little posting signs. But yeah, it's
everywhere around here, which I did. I, like I said,
I didn't see any of the stuff until somebody kind
of served me. You know, I thought I knew a
lot and I didn't know anything. But they're everywhere.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
Yeah, yeah, And I can confirm that when I went
to North and South Carolina, I've noticed the same thing. Like, wow,
there's a lot of structures here, and I look for
these things all over Missouri and they're hard to find,
but that place is just littered with them, and they're
the the encounter stories that proves that there's a lot
of sasquatch there. There's so many encounters from North Carolina

(36:54):
for some reason, I don't know why, but it's one
of the bfro's top states to do research and look
for these creatures.

Speaker 2 (37:03):
Yeah. I know some guys that go a new little
sports motorcycle riding up in the North cond of mountains.
You know, you get up around that that whole western area,
even not super far west like little Switzerland in some
of these areas, but they go up there and camp
out for a couple of days and they ride all
the trails. But they say, like up at uhr A,
they hear vocals and stuff. They can't explain treefall stuff

(37:26):
like that all the time.

Speaker 1 (37:27):
Yeah, absolutely, did I get that correct earlier? The u
are a national forest or is it like a state forest.
I'm not sure I might have gotten that.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
I think it is that there's so many like parks
and stuff around around my area that I get mixed
up because I just call them it like se and
so park or so and so, because I'm not sure
what you know, how their man is either. But uh,
and then you know I was telling you about this
is another experience I had and it could be coincidental.
So this is one of those ones. I'm not going

(37:56):
to say for sure what it was, but I had
a feeling inside me, like an instant, like something was
communicated with me that I couldn't explain, right, So I
was telling you about the place. I'm not sure if
we talked about it on the phone yet, I know
I maybe talked to you about it in text where
I've been doing this for a couple of years where
there's a place where I think that the SAS Squat

(38:18):
started betting it there. It's a place for people, like
it's not denstantly traveled the trails, but people do go
out there, so you know, you might see a couple
of people. If you got there at Highking, you might
not see anybody that type of thing, but it's not
uncommon to see a few other people. But I just
I kept passing this place and it was kind of
off out of the way. It was kind of lower

(38:40):
like almost kind of like maybe at some point it
might have been in a pit or something, right, maybe
ten fifteen twenty feet. It's kind of not circular, but
that's just what it kind of looked like. But it's
full of lens and now it just looks like a
small and density. You know, maybe you just kind of
notice it impressing. Right, it's an area maybe these set
two carns inside each other, just you know, maybe a

(39:03):
couple inches lower than the rest of the ground around there.
But I kept walking. I was cutting through there to
get to another trail, and I just kept noticing. I
didn't think anything about it. I kept noticing there was
like bunches of little pieces of the glass and you know, syringes,
pieces of coke bottles. This junk is basically why I'd
like to explain it. But a lot of it was glass,

(39:23):
and it looked like it had been placed there, and
I was like, you know, maybe somebody's putting it there.
But the more I thought about it, I was like,
why would anybody put little chimney pieces of glass right there?
And who would know about it? Like I'd walk by
it a hundred times, I've never seen it. So for
a couple of years, I've been picking up the glass
I take a bag with me and pick it up,
and uh, you know, there's since I've been doing that,

(39:44):
there was uh you know, there's always a couple of pieces. See,
I just thought it was trash, right, and there was
a lot of it. So it took me about you know,
I'm not carrying around a fifty five pound drum, you know,
I'm carrying around like a twenty gallon clear like extra
strings ziplock in my backpack, and so it's not a
huge bad fact for day hiking, right, So I just
get whatever I can get in that bag. It probably
took me about ten bags littles to clear it all out,

(40:08):
and then I kept noticing when I come back there'd
be two or three other little pieces or maybe ah,
you know, rusted a little part of a beer can,
that kind of thing. So something's putting it there. I
feel like that's what it is, and I would leave
a pine cone or something. I feel like it's a
big connection between sasquats and pine cones. But I put
a pine cone on top of the there's like a little,

(40:29):
not little, but a quartz rock. It's maybe like a
foot and a half a diamon. It's obviously not perfectly
circa you know what I mean. It's a big quartz
rock there, and I put a pine cone on it,
and then I can't remember the first time the pine
cone was removed, and there was another rock that was
in its way. This is a place where people don't walk,
so unless an animal picked the rock up, I don't
think a human did it. You know, you don't really

(40:51):
see it from the trail. And so now, like I said,
I've been doing that for a couple of years, So
I just went by there when I took that picture
the tree that it had fallen. That's probably about fifty
yards from the place where I've been cleaning up the
trash that's left there. But you know, there was a
four or five of the pieces there this time. It

(41:11):
was kind of weird. It was almost like it was
sat there so I couldn't miss it. But there was
like a baby food jar where I don't know if
it was so old the label would come off, or
somebody was using it for something else. You know, it
was really old looking, but it was sitting right on
top of the rock, you know. So I took that
with the other four or five pieces of glass and
did that. But one time when my son was with me,

(41:34):
and you know, I was picking up the glass, I
leaned over and I had put a pine cone or
something there before. I remember what it was, but it
was what was there. And then when we came back
to cleaned it up, like a week later, let's see
if there was any other trash here, there was a
It was like a pine cone still attached to like
a six inch little limb. You know how they looked.

(41:55):
They're all kind of black looking when they get old.
So it was just sitting there on the rock, just
kind of stood out contest of it, and and I
leaned down and I because there had been some other
places where I felt like they were communicating with some
pine clothes and box and stuff and the food that
I happened to seeing much communication there. That was the
first time I seeing any kind of what I thought
was a response. And when I leaned over to pick

(42:16):
it up, and at the same time, I told my sons, like, see,
they're trying to communicate with us. When I said that,
a tree fell and it sounded like I mean, it
sounded like it was it had to be at least
twenty four inches in diameter, and it was literally like
it sounded like it was like fifty feet from us.
But we walked over there and it was so loud.

(42:37):
It wasn't like and that comes from left right. And
we walked over there and couldn't find it. We couldn't
find where the tree fell. But it was almost like
one of those really good, kind of freaked me out moments,
kind of the opposite of from seeing the dog Man,
where I was like, yeah, they're communicating with there's no
way that was coincidence, or no, I'm sorry me back up,
that's the way that was coincidence. I just don't think

(42:57):
it was. I'm always really careful. I would like to
say anything I say on this shoe that'll tell to
me I'm saying what I believe. But I don't start
any sentence which I believe just because I would, you know,
I want to jump off a bridge by the end
of the day or whoever I'm talking to, So you know,
I don't think anything that I say is factual, other
than you know, obviously when I saw the one from

(43:18):
fifty yards away, and when my son saw that you know,
obviously these spread structures, you know, there could be an
explanation that could come out tomorrow. That would make us
all good. Oh we all thought this was squatch, But anyway,
I believe that that's what it was. I've been in
the woods my entire life over fifty years, and that's
the first time I have ever heard a tree fall
in my entire life. And that wasn't cut down with

(43:41):
me watching somebody cut it. And it was literally one
second after I said it wasn't like I said it,
And you know, somebody's sitting there and waiting on a
call or something. Then I said, look, they're communicating with
us in Bam. It just allowed us noise sent the ground.
That was cool.

Speaker 1 (43:57):
Yeah, absolutely. When they pushed over the trees like that,
they're letting you know that you're getting too close. And
these things are very territorial, and that's their way of
communicating with people and with the other clan members. But
I agree with you, it's hard to say if the
structures were really made by Sasquatch. But when you're out
there looking for them, when you're looking for sign, you

(44:19):
have to look at everything critically. And like you said,
these arches, it's not like a big tree fell on
the saplinge and bent it over. Some of these are
poked into the ground and they're held by nothing, and
it doesn't make sense, like how's an oak tree going
to bend itself like that? Or a pine? And I
mean unless it froze and it was like zero degrees

(44:42):
negative twenty, there was like a rain and ice storm.
You know, the trees will arch like that, but when
the sun comes back out and everything melts, they straighten
back out. Some of these you can tell they're manipulated,
and you find X structures and other things around there,
and it's in areas where you had your sighting at
so it's really hard to write off. But obviously you

(45:03):
weren't there to watch them make it. And that's how
I feel. I'm very careful when I talk about this
on the channel, and even then I get a lot
of ridicule. I'll point things out in the woods, whether
it's like a vertical tree, a tree break, and I say,
I don't know if it was sasquatch, and then people
in the commons say, Miguel, thanks, everything's bigfoot. Even when
I'm careful, people still say that I'm.

Speaker 2 (45:23):
Yeah, and I'm not like that. Yeah, I don't, I don't.
I've watched quite a few videos and I don't feel
that way at all, Like I think the first name
comes about it, and I actually like this. This isn't
a negative. But you know, like time standing, everything he
sees is a sas squads. I do believe that he's
in an area where there's a lot of stuff and
he's you know, had a lot of stuff like that,
but you know, every single thing he sees. So let's say,

(45:44):
if I see like thirty structures out there, I will
see two or three that like, okay, if all the
stars lying done, there's a possibility it's gonna happen naturally.
So when I say I don't know what's making it,
I know the nature's not making these things. I mean,
I've seen too many things that there is no way
in the world a tornado, two tornadoes from two different locations,
when I had to pick these branches up and bring

(46:05):
it over here, falling in a perfect X, and there's
gonna be about you know, six different forces that are
gonna have to make this tree on top of that one.
If that one's on top of that one, then how
is the other part of it underneath this one? And
then how is that part of that one, underneath this
one over that one. It just I've looked at some
structures sometimes for fifteen or twenty minutes, and not only
am I convinced it's not natural, Like if I took

(46:27):
fifty people out to the woods, I couldn't recreate this,
Like I couldn't recreate it.

Speaker 1 (46:32):
Yeah, a lot of them are intricate, and they're like geometrical.
I just think they're really interesting because if it is Sasquatch,
they're communicating and that's their language. And how many times
have we heard someone say I was out there, I
had this sighting their wood knocking and then I heard
a loud branch break. Well, if they broke a branch,
shouldn't you be able to find evidence? And I feel

(46:54):
like that's what these structures are. And a lot of
the structures that I found are in the exact areas
where I've had pretty intense bigfoot activity, and you can
hear them back there pushing over trees, breaking limbs, and
I go back there later on and find structures and
it's like, this is exactly where that limb break came from.
So for me, two plus two equals four. For the skeptic,

(47:16):
it was a hurricane, a tornado, wind damage. Man, that's okay,
it doesn't bother me. But I know what I experience
and that's all that matters.

Speaker 2 (47:24):
Yeah, it's just like anything else. You know, there's some
people that you're not going to convince of anything. And
there might be a subject where other than Sasquatch or
maybe somebody else might think I think something like that,
like you're not going to convince me whatever this is.
You know, like I said at the beginning of the
you know, when we first started talking, I actually not
only respect, but I actually enjoy hearing the people's interpretations,

(47:45):
like I'm not the person. If we were walking out
in the woods and I said, wow, that must have
been a good one that made up. Can you believe that?
And if you would have said, I don't think that's
a Sasquatch at all. I think I think this happened,
I wouldn't be like, no, you're crazy. I'd like, you know,
you know, at the point everybody's got that point. I'm
not saying you're right now my own I'm not saying
I'm right and you're wrong. I'm just saying that's what
I believe.

Speaker 1 (48:04):
You know, Oh yeah, for sure, especially running the channel.
You know, you get these reports where oh I was
sitting out there and they were speaking to me in
my mind and they told me this and this and this,
and I just listen. I mean, obviously I'm skeptical, but
also like I've seen sasquatch and if that's real, like
what the heck else is real?

Speaker 2 (48:25):
Yeah? You know, in that area I'm going to, there's
some trees that have been knocked down that are like
half half as big around as my car, I mean,
like huge, like it would take six people to hold
their arms, maybe not that many, three or four people
to like raight their earn, like a huge tree, right,
a couple several hundred years old, and like how has

(48:46):
that tree even knocked over? And then there's two other
trees that are like technically, if you look at it,
it possibly could have hit them, but they're perfectly parallel
at a forty five greenle like where would have had
to fall. Perfect but it's kind of it's kind of thick,
and like that tree is still alive and it fell
a little six months ago or something, and there's been

(49:07):
new winds, Like I've got in an area where you know,
like the tree I was still any other day. I
just took a picture of like, I'll go to these
areas so frequently that I noticed the stuff that's different, right,
I kind of enjoy that. That's almost as good as
going to a new area for me, just seeing what's different.
It's different every time I go. Something's been changed, a
new structure, this, this live was moved, you know that
kind of thing that I just feel like that, like

(49:29):
like there's just no way that nature good because it's like,
why didn't any other tree fall down? This one tree
that's you know, ten times the size of only the
other ones around it. You know, it hasn't rained hard
in the last few days. It hasn't been win either,
hadn't been a storm. What made this fall three days ago?
It could have. It's just highly unlikely that nothing else

(49:49):
was touched. I just see that so frequently for me.
I think some of it is a feeling. I always
go into the woods open minded. I don't go into
looking for big food, or I don't look at a
structure immediately go that's a big foot. I investigate it,
and then my mind for this own opinion. You know,
I like to look at things objectively, but I'll look
at things all the time. I like it, that's a

(50:09):
true feeling, that's just a true feeling. And then I'll
look at something else, Like I said, walking down the
path right, I'll see things won't won't, won't think anything
about it, and then all of a sudden, my eyes
will lock on something and I can't really explain it.
It kind of stopped me dead in my tracks, and
I just start analyzing. It's almost like I instantly know
that that's not like a sixth sense. I know that
that's not natural, that that did not happen, or at

(50:32):
least I believe it that, you know, I strongly believe that,
and I know I completely agree with what you're saying
about that. Uh, you know, when they're knocking the tree server,
I think it's kind of a warning sign. You know,
primates use that a lot. I've done a lot of
research on the like silver backs and stuff like that,
because you know, they build structures and stuff too. But
the weird things were those. For this particular one, I

(50:55):
felt the biggest And I could have made this up
in my mind, but uh, you know it could phone actually,
but when that seem sell right after I told him
you know they're communicating with this from from that pine cone,
from cleaning up the glass, and not to step in it.
I felt just a kind of a sense of relief,
just a quick you fork sense of relief. Like I
don't know, I just felt that. I felt like that

(51:16):
was a communication that they were letting me know, thank
you for cleaning that stuff up. That's what I thought.
I like, I said, I've been cleaning that stuff up.
It's a lot of don't it's dirty, you know, I
just don't like it there, You know, it bothers me
for all the animal it's not just success guys. You know,
shipp be glass in the woods.

Speaker 1 (51:34):
Yeah, that's an interesting theory and it very well could be.
Let's talk about more of the activity that you experienced earlier.
You mentioned you've seen the orbs. Can you tell me
more about that. What do they look like, what happened
and did it happen in an area where we've had
bigfoot experiences.

Speaker 2 (51:51):
Yeah, it's a lot of it's in the same area
and me personally, I haven't seen but a couple of
orbs like myself, and it's just kind off at a distance,
you know, the kind of floating around a little bit
and then maybe you'll hear a tree bak or something
like that by it. But I've watched a lot of
videos that are Saskrutch related videos, camping videos like motorcycle

(52:12):
dual purpos and videos, and I'll just see an orb
shoot across in the background. And the weirdest thing is
is when I see that, the person, especially if it's
not like a sasquatch researching type video, usually within five
or ten seconds of seeing that orb like shoot buy
in the back of the screen, I'll see somebody to

(52:32):
turn around like there was a sign, but you know,
they're not looking for anything. They just kind of turn
them and go back, go back to what they're doing.
And I've also seen it on quite a few like
where people are doing research, you know, and it's not
it's not a bug it's flying around. I mean, it's
something that's as straight as a laser. It just sticks
out as unnatural, you know, I know what, I know

(52:54):
what it looks like, you know. And sometimes I'll rewind
it if it's on a video and look at it
a couple of times, because I do see things sometimes
where a bug will fly mine it kind of looks
like it this is different, you know, it's not the same.
It's definitely an the word. So I've seen quite a
few of those. I did have one other experience that
wasn't a sighting that was just kind of very strange.

(53:14):
It's at that same area where I've been cleaning up
the glass, and I feel like, when I say I
feel like I have a connection, I'm not texting these
these sash squats and stuff like that, you know what
I mean. It's just I feel like they appreciate me
coming in there and clean up the grass and I
leave through the stuff like that. You know, Like I said,
I have seen a couple of tracks, and I just

(53:35):
feel like they appreciate that that. I'm not saying they
want to friend me or anything. I'm just saying that
I feel like that when I'm in those woods, that
they appreciate that I'm not the person that's coming in
there throwing their rito's bag, you know, off to the
riot as they're you know, still walking through the woods
flipping a cigarette bug back that kind of thing. You know,
I don't anything I take in with me, I take

(53:57):
out and you know, I don't chop down things are living,
you know, that kind of stuff. So I respect the woods.
I feel like that's appreciated. There's one other thing I
was going to tell you. This is kind of a
it was a weird experience, and I'm kind of even
hesitant to tell the people because this is probably going
to bring out the comments I probably don't want to read.

(54:19):
But I was out in an area that's it's like
a I think it might be a state park. I'm
not sure, but I was. I was, I was walking it.
I'm in try of painting image. It's an area that
has kind of like picnic tables around the a lake
and there's kind of a peninsular area, right, so there's

(54:42):
a bigger picnic table kind of at the end of
the peninsula, and all these picnic tables are surrounded by
the water, but there's the peninsula goes out into the
lake and then there's probably four or five picnic tables.
When I say picnic table, it's got like a little
concrete slab, little area, you know, where you can sit
down and I think they each have grills, maybe two
you can sit down and you know, grill some hot
dogs or something. So there's like the one in the middle,

(55:03):
and there's like three or four on each side of
the peninsula, and then and then on the backside of
all that. You know, the point of the peninsula is
toward the lake is a place where you can park
your car. And during the week there's never anybody there.
I mean, you hardly ever go to this. Uh, there's
other areas of the park you can at this one spot,
you don't really see anybody. So I was out over
there and uh, it was just kind of gonna walk

(55:27):
out toward the end, and that last little picnic table
out at the end of the peninsula you can't really see.
And you get closer out there because it's kind of
arcd a little bit, you know, you see it when
you get to about the fourth or fifth picnic table,
you can see if anybody's out of that one. And
when I got out there, I got about half other
I saw there was a guy sitting there, and I
didn't think anything about it. It did just briefly, not

(55:47):
not in a weird suspicious way, but I was like,
that's kind of weird. He's ordering work clothes and work
sees out there. But you know, could have just been
you know, set up wul work for the day. When
I come out there the child. But I didn't think anything,
didn't any bad vibes or anything like that. And then
so what I did was was I turned around, because
you know, we're in a place like that, especially if
there's nobody else here. I mean, how rude would you

(56:09):
need to walk up and sit right near somebody. I'm
not that person. So I went to the farthest picnic
table away, have my dog with me, just had a
couple of snacks. We've been out walking the trails a
little bit, so it's a good place to just sit
watch the lake and kind of kind of chill out.
And I went down toward the bank so that if
you imagine, the picnic table was raised up maybe five

(56:31):
or six feet higher than the bank below it, so
you kind of walked down about ten or fifteen feet
to get to the edge of the water. Like I
was letting my dog play in the water. So when
I walked down there, when I turned around and looked up,
that guy was sitting at my picnic table right and
I instantly instantly had bad vibes every red flat and

(56:53):
my body went off, like, you know, why would he
come sit here, man? When I'm walking clearly out hiking
on the backpack of my dog. I walked up. You
saw you turn around and came back. The slurs that
I can get away from you. You see me and
you get her. So at first I was kind of like,
you know, maybe he didn't see me sit down there,
and I was like, no, because my water bottle wasn't

(57:13):
on the picnic table where he was sitting, but it
was like ten feet away from him. I'll be honest
with you, I don't really disrespect people in public, you know,
unless it would be like self defense or something. I
don't know if this guy, you know, I don't. I
don't know this guy, right, but I was I was
kind of perturbed, like when I walked up to grabb
my water, but I kind of gave him here you
look like, just kind of looked at him like, wow,
you really had to come here that of all, there's

(57:33):
nine picnic tables and this is the one I'm sitting at.
And so I went back. I went back down to
the one where he left and kind of looked back
at him a couple of times like he kind of
pissed me off, And be honest, it was just a disrespectful.
I felt like and I went back to the one
at the end. Didn't think anything about it. And you know,
I mean I had my dog with me. He'd hurt somebody,

(57:53):
and I say, you know, let's say pulled a gun out.
I guess a kid. But I there for about thirty minutes.
And when I got ready to leave, h this is
where it's gonna get kind of weird. I feel I
even felt kind of weird telling the story. But I'm
telling you exactly how everything happened to me. Uh, and
this is this is not a place where a lot
of those other things have happened. You know, it's all

(58:14):
right there close together. So as I'm walking back, I'm
looking for him. He was just on his phone, didn't
even look at at me, like you know, I was
going to say, hey, you know, just trying to be
polite walk because I had to walk pretty close to
him to get by him. Kind of pencils end back
there at that lt uh where you know where he
was at. And when I was walking, when I got
about where I feel like thirty or forty yards past

(58:36):
him have played in my car, I heard a couple
of footsteps behind me and I turned around. I didn't
see anything. It was just like like that pat on
the uh gravels gravel and you know, it could have
been anything my dog's walking up, so it didn't. I
thought I heard it. I was pretty sure I heard
it and turned around, didn't didn't do anything. And when
I turned around, I did see him sitting there, and

(58:57):
I think he had kind of turned toward me. He
could have been looking why I turned around to see
where it was going. But when I looked back around,
I heard two footsteps right behind me, and it scared me,
and I knew it wasn't him. When I say scared me,
I just didn't look back. I scared he was way
too far away. I knew it wasn't or nobody out there.
But I heard the first two, turned around, saw nothing,

(59:19):
turned back around, heard like two or three more, and
at the same time I went, I'm pretty sure that
footsteps again. All I can tell you is I felt
this warm sensation around like my whole left side, from
like my back like lungs area, under my arm pit,
around my kind of like lower back blood area, and

(59:40):
then just a little bit on the right. The best
way I could describe it would be would be like
if you walked up behind your wife or girlfriend, and
you walked up from behind her and approached her left side,
and you put like your shoulder into her back and
put your arm around her lower back. That was the
coverage kind of I felt, you know, my whole left side,

(01:00:01):
blow of my arm to it down to my waist,
just on the side, and then kind of across my back.
But I didn't fill a hand or anything like that.
It almost felt like a warm blanket had been ripping
around me. And at the same time that I realized this,
my feet this is the word to see this thing.
My feet were We're still touching the ground, but I

(01:00:24):
was completely weightless for about seven to ten steps. So
about the time you know, I went to this quick,
this all happened, you know, seven to ten steps. A
couple of seconds. I went from like wow, almost like
I'm you know, something was touching me, to like am
I floating? To like I was back on the ground,
And I was like, yeah, I was. I was. When

(01:00:46):
I say floating, my feet were still making contact with
the ground, right, but I had zero weight, Like it
was like I was floating and just scruffing the ground
is the only way I can explain it and uh.
And then I was set down, and as I felt
my weight back, I felt that whenever that one was
around me, I had died as a warm blanket, but

(01:01:08):
in the shape of maybe something I had come up
besides you and put his arm around you. From the back,
I felt the most strongest sense of this peace and safety,
and I felt like my life had been saved. Like
in my mind, I just knew it. I don't know
how to explain it. You know, it's your voice in
side you talk. I was like something to saved my

(01:01:30):
life from this guy. I just that's what I feel
like happened. But you know, I don't know if that
was sasquatch related. You know, my mom passed away a
couple of years ago. This happened like last year. I
don't know if my mom was looking after me, God
was looking after me, which God's always looking after you,
and he works to others, so that also could have been.
You know, when I say satisfactry God, you know, only
God's gonna project you from something like that. In my opinion,

(01:01:53):
I respect other people's opinion. That's what I believe it.
Man that I felt like it should have freaked me
out and I felt amazing that day. I know what
it was. I felt like I really felt like I
was operating at one hundred percent of the rest that day.
Is that the best feeling in the world. I don't
None of that may make sense to anybody listening to it,
but I just wanted to sear it because it was
at that same exact you know, the same spot.

Speaker 1 (01:02:18):
Yeah, that definitely sounds like a supernatural, godly encounter. But
like you said, you don't know if it was sasquatch.
Maybe it had something to do with it, but it's
definitely hard to say. Did you feel like a physical
presence or was it more supernatural? Can you describe that?

Speaker 2 (01:02:35):
Yeah, I felt I felt like something was like it
all happened so quick, you know. I mean it sounds
like like from the from the first couple of steps
to got my attention when I turned around, when I
turned back around, and it was kind of like when
I told you when I saw the the sasquatch full
of myself on my motorcycle. Why I didn't turn around
when I heard the second steps, I don't know. I mean,
why wouldn't you turn around when you're out? Similar for

(01:02:58):
you just saw a guy that was doing some weird,
creepy stuff. Why why wouldn't you turn around? I can't
answer that question. Something didn't want me to turn around
or gett you know, I didn't turn around. I don't
know why, but it was it was just a warm presence,
like I felt something on me, I felt something touching me.
It felt like a warm blanket. That's what it felt
like to me. It felt like a blanket. It touched

(01:03:18):
my side and lower back, but it was in the
position of like if somebody had lowered herself down and
wrapped their arm around you from behind and kind of
picked you up and carried you is kind of what
I felt like happened. But yeah, that was That's probably
the craziest thing that's ever happened to me. I've only
told like two people that.

Speaker 1 (01:03:34):
Well, I appreciate you for sharing that with me. And
I've heard that same description from other people before, especially
feeling like a warm blanket and you felt.

Speaker 2 (01:03:42):
Like, wow, that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:03:43):
Yeah, yeah, that's a common thing when it comes to.

Speaker 2 (01:03:46):
I've never heard that.

Speaker 1 (01:03:46):
Yeah, it's awesome. Yeah, that's supernatural. And as far as
driving past the Sasquatch or writing past it. That makes
sense to me. Obviously, people in the comments are going
to be like, why didn't you stop? I would have stopped.
But I mean, like, how many times of have like
people well, I don't know. Let's say, for example, like
you clearly ran into like a girl that likes you,
she keeps staring at you, or you guys kind of

(01:04:09):
hit it off and you didn't ask for a number,
or you never approached her and you look back and say,
dang it, why didn't I ask for a number? Like
it's kind of like that, you know, you kind of
kick yourself in the butt and wonder why you didn't,
Like all the signs were there. I don't know if
that's a good comparison, but.

Speaker 2 (01:04:27):
What you said just just ringing through too with what
I was. What I think is, you know I was.
You know, I've been in shock before, you know where
I was injured and I was in a pretty bad
car wreck. Luckily, I was just like sore glass in

(01:04:47):
the back of my head, like really bad, bad injuries.
That bad mister total car knocked me out right. So
and I know that when you're in shock you kind
of do things and say things. Your body's and all
the pilot, which is the best way I'll describe, because
when people were telling me some of the things I
was saying or doing, I don't remember it all, like
I remember doing it, but like, you know, why did
I do that instead of this? So the only thing

(01:05:09):
I can say is I think sometimes your body protects you.
So even though I never felt in fear or anything
like that, never felt in danger or anything like that,
I think it might have been a sock to my mind,
or maybe my mind didn't let me look back. You know,
that's very common when people go on to shock, like
because it's all the worms here, quarterbacks that tell everybody's

(01:05:30):
thing they shouldn't do well. You know, like if you
were running from a grizzly bear, you know, you have
no idea unless you've ever run from one. You think
you know what you would do. Your heart and your
brain is working so quickly that you are not thinking
there's something else that's taken over your body. Your brain
is an auto pilot. So I think it might have
been something like that, because I would agree with any

(01:05:51):
comment that somebody would make. Why in the world would
you not turn around? I'm asking myself that you know
and am more angry way than anybody would ask that
in a comment sector or ask me if I can't
answer that question, I have no idea. It kind of
bothers me a little bit because I wish I would
have gotten off the bike and take a picture of it,
or just stared at it a little longer. I mean,

(01:06:14):
that's the thing that you dream of if you've you know,
I'd never entire life thought I would ever see a
bit to it anything. I never thought anything would happen
to me, you know, until all this stuff started happening,
you know, Faber six years ago, or other than reading
something in a book or maybe seeing the you know,
the old video or you know, one hundred people think
it's fake, a hundred people think it's real, the old
debate that, you know, that kind of thing. I never

(01:06:35):
thought I would have any of this stuff happened. I'm
feel blessed in a way. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:06:41):
Absolutely, you are amongst the chosen. And it seems like
the Sasquatch are attracted to certain individuals. Maybe your mark,
maybe you're tagged. Maybe they can read your body language
and they're comfortable with you. Maybe it's a pheromone that
we release. It's hard to say, but for some reason,
certain individuals can tenue having experiences out in the forest

(01:07:02):
and there's no explanation as to why. And I'm sure
every person out there who knows what I'm talking about
wonders why themselves, like why.

Speaker 2 (01:07:10):
Why Yet that I think, sorry, I mean to cut
you off there. I think that they. I think that
they have powers of communicating, uh, telepathically, and I think
human beings do too. I think we're all just so
you know, not to get down a wormhole, just so
dumby down. You know, we use ten percent of our
brain whatever. I think we all have that some some

(01:07:31):
human stand but I think we're so untaught that you know,
over years, you know, things change. But because I've definitely
gone into areas before where I kind of felt like
they didn't want me there that day, you know, I've
definitely as soon as I've walked in there, just gotten
really really bad, uh for no reason what whoever? You know,
I was feeling great until I walked in there. It
just got a really bad Uh. It's happened a few times,

(01:07:53):
bad enough or you know, I kind of cut my
my hake off for it. And there's also been times
I'm coming there and I not like the warm blanket
experience like whatever happened that one day, but just feel
a little better than I do when I'm walk in there.
You know, maybe that's just nature, you know, nature therapy,
but I do feel like that they like like when
that tree fell. Usually that tree is known for like

(01:08:14):
you know, dominance, you know, or you know, like a
dominating factor, dominance factor, fear factor for primates. But I
instantly felt just that sense of like think like I
was being thanked for cleaning that stuff up. But I
think they know, like I do. I do this, you know,
you know, depending on where I'm going. Like a lot

(01:08:34):
of people, you know, it's best to protect yourself with
something when you go into woods. When I enter the woods,
I immediately think, not say it out loud. I immediately
have I try to project the thoughts that I'm coming
in here peacefully. I'm not here to hurt anyone. I
respect the woods. I love it as much as anybody else.
I just think these things when I'm walking around. I
think they pick up on that. Maybe I'm nuts, you know,

(01:08:56):
maybe I'm crazy, but I think they pick up on that.
And I've heard which I'm sure you have to. There's
so many stores of people out there where when they're
in areas where there's a lot of sighting and stuff
like that, they go out there and they've had so
much like energy pressed one that they actually get innause
just like that kind of thing and forced to leave. So,
you know, I believe that they have some type of

(01:09:17):
you know communication, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:09:19):
No, Yeah, that I've spoken with Native Americans and that's
what they say, that if you don't respect the forest,
you will anger the spirits. And that's why they leave
tobacco or coffee or let's say sweet grass out there
as like an offering or else you're gonna take these
things off. And what the Native Americans described the sasquatch

(01:09:40):
As were the policeman of the forest and they're pretty
much protectors, guardians of the woods. And if you took
them off, they're definitely gonna let you know it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:50):
Yeah, And you know, like I said, you know, it's
just that it's just the feelings, like you feel like
somebody is communicating with you, you know, when you're when
you're walking around there, just feel like I get strong.
And when people say, you know, if somebody had never
experienced that, it is like, well, you could just be
thinking of that, and I'm like, I agree with you
one hundred percent. But the reason why I don't think
that is because it's such a strong feeling. You know.

(01:10:13):
It's not like I'm not wondering if something's time to
talk to me, you know what I mean, something is
communicating to me. If that's what's happening, just doesn't seem
like something that you're you know, because we all think
about things. You walking around thinking about stuff all the time, right,
it's not like that. It's not like I'm thinking about
one in the lottery, you know that that kind of thing,
like something's trying to communicate with me. I feel very strongly,

(01:10:35):
you know about it now. I felt like I was
being followed, like something was I don't know, sometimes people
I've heard stories that sometimes people think that, you know,
juveniles and stuff like that, like the play around kind
of follow you. I just had that strong sense of
not being watched. I get that every time I go
out there, but uh being followed. I turn around, nothing's there,
and I just have that feeling something's walking like two
feet behind me. There. Just don't never heard anything like

(01:10:59):
the other fok skips but I get that feeling a
lot like something's following me.

Speaker 1 (01:11:04):
Yeah, your senses are heightened, especially when you're out in nature,
and maybe people that are listening who can't relate to this.
Have you ever had someone standing behind you and the
hairs on the back of your neck stood up and
there was there was someone staring at you, or maybe
you had this feeling that someone just wasn't up to
no good and your intuition was right. I know, I've

(01:11:26):
heard stories from nine to eleven the people that went
into the Twin Towers. A lot of people said just
something felt really off that day. And you know, you
have this discernment, this wisdom that God gives you, and
you know when something's off. But when you're out in
the woods, every little stick break, any little noise is
going to catch your attention.

Speaker 2 (01:11:47):
But yeah, and check this out along as what you
just said. You know, I think some people can kind
of better than others do what you said. I think
everybody has the ability to do it, but some people
just do it for whatever reason. Because I ride motorcycles
my whole life, never wore a protective gear or anything
like that, you know, until I got in this wreck.
I was about to tell you how. But you know,
just I ride around in sports t shirt, you know,

(01:12:09):
sport bike, you know driving, you know, driving a little
bit above the speed limit, that type thing. When I
was younger, in the twenties, and uh, one day I
was in my driveway and this is after I'd already
i'd already had had children, and I was I got
ready to get on my bike, right my bike. I'd
warmed it up, same same routine started, but it worem
up for a minute while I'm grabbing my helmet, I'd
already had the engine, went and grabbed my helmet, and

(01:12:31):
something told me, go get your jacket. I had a
you know, an armored jacket, you know, a protective jacket.
Just never wore it except when it was in the
winter time it was really cold. Never wore in the summer.
So keep in mind, I have never want a projective
jacket at this point, been riding for my entire life,
since I was four or five years old. And I, uh,
something said, good, get your jacket. And it was that

(01:12:53):
same strong feeling you know where I don't think it's
me telling myself that went and went went upstairs. I
don't live this address, anymore. I went upstairs grabbed my jacket.
I was two houses down from the neighborhood pool where
you take a right, so on the same side of
the pool. So if you're out of my driveway and
my house is to the left, you go two houses

(01:13:13):
and take it right. So I went down my driveway,
took the left out of my driveway and went two
houses and took it right. And I slipped on some sand,
and it slipped so quick I didn't even have a
chance to let go of the bikes. When I hit
the ground, both of my hands are throwing the handlebarns
and my head. It was just like, you know, like
a toy on me. It said, look. My feet and
hands never came off the handlebars and legs. It just

(01:13:36):
swept completely out from underneath me and my head. My
head hit the curb, scraped up the whole side of
my helmet. I'm not even sure if I would live
through that, but if I did, even though I was
only going probably twenty miles an hour, it would have
hurt really bad to scrape up my whole helmet. And
then it scraped up the whole shoulder and elbow on
my thing. A lot of my weight fell on my elbow.
To this day, I think my elbow would have broken

(01:13:59):
in a minion piece. But something saved me that day.
I don't know what. Something something did.

Speaker 1 (01:14:04):
Yeah, that's incredible. And I feel like this is the
sense that the Sasquatch have out in the forest, and
when we enter the woods, they automatically know, Hey, someone's coming,
without hearing us, smelling us, knowing that we're there, and
they just know. And I think they're able to avoid
us with this six cents and they're highly tuned into
nature and the universe. But I feel like it's something biblical.

(01:14:27):
I'm not going to say, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:14:29):
I agree with you. Yeah, I agree with you. Sometimes
I don't like to open up too much because you know,
everybody thinks you're crazy just just for believing in sasquatch anyway,
But yeah, I think it's very very very biblical, you know,
like the orbs, I think that they come in and
out of there. I think that they can go to
a different dimension and come back forth. I've heard people
say that they just like they like like the deer
and the food here and stuff. Because like one of

(01:14:51):
the places that I go, there's no way that they're
not leaving and going somewhere else. They have to be
leaving during the day and going somewhere. You know. I'm
not disagreeing because sometimes people think that they can blend
in with like the trees and stuff like that. It's
just you know, I don't I don't discredit anything because
you know, my belief right now are so different than

(01:15:12):
my whole up in my whole entire life up until
five years ago. Like the you know when my son
saw one of them, uh uh, you know, vanished in
the thin air, just melt, just disappear right in front
of his eyes. It didn't run off and disappear into
the woods, so it vanished. Uh, you know, just things
like that. So there's more to it than than we know.
Everybody thinks they know everything. We all know nothing, but

(01:15:35):
uh yeah, there's there's definitely something to.

Speaker 1 (01:15:38):
That, without a doubt, and I don't know. I had
someone in the comments say that if you're going to
talk about religion, you should start a different channel, and
I was like, why religion gives us more insight on
the cryptid subject than science and the government, so why
start another channel. And people are allowed to express their

(01:15:59):
own feelings regarding what this is. I feel like I
would be not doing the subject justice if I said, oh,
you're not allowed to talk about God, keep that to yourself, Because,
like you said, the orbs, the cloaking, the mind speak,
not finding a body tracks, just disappearing like that's strange,
and not only that, the other cryptids that are out there.

(01:16:20):
I feel like this is something next level, and no
animal is going to turn into an orb or be
associated with balls of lights. It's definitely something from what
the Bible refers to as like the nephilum or the
animal the animals that they created in those times. I
feel like that personally, and I respect people who don't

(01:16:41):
agree with that.

Speaker 2 (01:16:42):
Yeah, I definitely agree. There's something more too. I don't
know what it is either, but I think these orbs
is how they travel, so to speak. I don't like,
I don't know if they're going to a different dimension
or a different area of the forest, but I think
I have something to do with the way they're able
to travel.

Speaker 1 (01:16:55):
Yeah, it's either a spiritual form or like a portal
opening up.

Speaker 2 (01:16:59):
It's hard to yeah, but I definitely think they can
travel to other dimensions. But yeah, you know, what what
do you think I'll ask you a good question if
you don't mind, what do you think about? Like the
I know I sent you one picture. I don't know
if you saw it. It was one of the best
ones I've ever seen. I call them tree squatches, but
it's just just one a face. You know, you walk around,

(01:17:20):
you look at a tree and you just see a
face in it, you know. I mean that that was
where sometimes I kind of think, like, all right, do
these things have the ability like if I'm out walking
around it can blend into it, like turn into a
tree or something, or merge into one like I don't know.
I'm not saying that happens. But that one picture that
I sent that it was after those other ones I

(01:17:42):
sent you. All the other pictures I sent to you,
except for the one I'm talking about I took myself.
This one is what's remarkable about it is feel free
to put that one on on the website, on your
h when you post this, if you want to. This
is not even if I remember right. Somebody might correct me.
I don't think it was a there's a person in
the video. It's YouTube video. I don't think it was

(01:18:04):
somebody researching. I think I was watching. I watched a
lot of camping videos and motorcycle videos. So this person
never saw that picture I took. When I saw it,
I was like, and I stopped the camera or stopped
the video rewinded a couple of times. But this is
almost not even like a tree squads where it's like
some people's like, I'm not talking about like a couple
of knots with a scratch. It looks like a smiley face.

(01:18:26):
I'm not talking about that, Like it looks like a face,
but it's in the tree. The person's leaning the other way.
They never saw it the whole video. They never saw it.
I just happened to see it and thought it was
one of the most amazing ones. I have seen some
pretty good ones, so that one, I'm like, you know,
most of them, I just think it's a picture. Some
people say maybe they're drawing pictures on the trees, you know,

(01:18:47):
stuff like that. But this looks like a face like
it it's nothing like I've nothing like I've ever seen.
It blew my mind. But yeah, I don't know. If
you what are your thoughts on that kind of thing?
And if you don't, you know if the question drilling
will be that's that's acceptable. I just was curious what
you think about the tree faces and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (01:19:07):
Yeah, I definitely looked like a face to me, and
I thought it was very very interesting to look at.
And yes, sometimes we take photos and something shows up
that we didn't see there in person. Do you think
that was more something supernatural or do you think something
was physically there. I mean, it's on the tree and
it looks like a face. What are your thoughts about that?

Speaker 2 (01:19:28):
You know, I'd say on most of the ones, I
see that it's probably a design or maybe something they've done,
or you know, I feel like they make I've got
several pictures where they make art out of stumps. Like
I've seen a stump it looks just like a duck.
I've seen one that looks like a dog, and I
see just like it. It's hard to explain that. Like
when you're coming around a corner and you see it, like,

(01:19:50):
ohh stuck in my tracks. I thought that was a
dog and I had to walk over to it, and
we got half way over and I see it's not.
But I don't know, man, that one that I think
that's the one that I took off the video. I
have several that I'm not sure whether you are that one.
To me, it looks like a sasquatch is blended into
that tree because the features and everything are so so
just steamed. I don't know, but I know what you're

(01:20:11):
talking about. Where I've taken a lot of pictures before
and things show up that aren't in the picture, Like
you know, the trunk of a tree might show a
weird kind of face, or leaves that you know, and
you stand there, look at this stuff. Leaves all kind
of blended the faces. And I'm not talking about a
clear as day sasquatch face. I'm just talking about it
looks like something, right. So sometimes I see those on photos.

(01:20:36):
You know, there's people that made videos just just about
that kind of stuff. You know. I do feel like
sometimes I see faces like in the mud. You know,
I told you I found two tracks. One of the
tracks looked like I had a face kind of when
I say face, it's not an actual face, but I
could see a face finally clearly enough for me, just
to you know, I'm mesgris, I see a track, right.

(01:20:56):
The last thing I'm thinking about is seeing a face
and a tree or something like that. You know, that
was the first track I'd ever seen in person. I've
only seen I think two maybe three. I think I
know two of I can think of about the bat
where it kind of looked like I had a face
in it. And then how did the track get in
the middle of a trail in this kind of an
open area. So let's this thing had like a thirty
yard leap, how does one track? It's crazy?

Speaker 1 (01:21:21):
Yeah, absolutely. It reminds me of when Ron Moore had
said these things are in the trees, and he talks
a lot about the supernatural and just the unknown that's
associated with bigfoot activity.

Speaker 2 (01:21:35):
Yeah, I know you. I think I had heard in
one of your videos you said one time and correct
me if I'm wrong that you had had an experience
like with a UFO or something kind of paranormal like that.
Is that true or not? Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:21:47):
Yeah, I've had a lot of paranormal experiences.

Speaker 2 (01:21:52):
Do you not feel like that? Sometimes I feel like
people have no experiences or it's almost like like you
were saying, I don't know if you're mark tagged. They
feel comfortable with me because I you know, I expressed
my presence when I entered the woods. But this also
goes back to things where sometimes you say people say
something or see something and don't want to talk about
it or repress it because my memory had blocked us

(01:22:14):
out for about thirty five years. But when I was
about eight or ten years old, and I remember it vividly,
and it wasn't like I'd forgotten about it. It just
I didn't know what it was and it wasn't important
to me at the time. But I was sitting on
my back porch, I'm guessing I was eight or ten
years old, and I just looked out over I guess,

(01:22:35):
kind of get over the people's house behind me in
my neighborhood, and there was a I mean, if you google,
like ufover flying so much, I fel like it's the
common one, one of the common one seen. So it
was sitting in the hovering and I watched it for
about five minutes. It was really big. Like looking back
at it, I'm like, how would everybody in the neighborhood
not see it? But I wasn't processing that way, you know,

(01:22:56):
as a small child. But it was like, you know,
the it wasn't completely flat, but you know, the kind
of football state, so to speak, flying saucer and it
had orange lights rotating in a circle. And I cannot
to this day remember somebody had asked you that when
I was talking to him about it. Was it clockwise
or counterclockwise? And I can't remember, but I just remember
orange lights circular lights. If I remember going in a circle

(01:23:19):
around it and it just hovered there. I didn't even
I mean, it wasn't even as big deal to me,
just sitting there and see if it flew off or
took off. But I remember sitting there watching it for
quite quite enough time, but you know, to just vividly
look at it, you know, as long as long as
I wanted to. You know, I stopped looking at it
when I got tired of looking at it. And I

(01:23:39):
never thought about that again until I was about thirty
years old. Somebody pulled up It might have been one
of those times on UFOs. You know there's sometimes they'll
be more popular on TV than other I can't remember
somebody pulled something up online. It was just showing me
something joking, or if it was on TV. But I
saw it and I was like, WHOA, I saw one
of those, and I was a kid, I'd never thought
about it for that long. It's weird. I know, somebody

(01:24:01):
listening could very easily say it's a it's a false memory,
or you're making it or not believe me. I'm just
telling you exactly how I remember it. And I can
remember how I was sitting on that back porch, like
very vividly, what the trees looked like, almost like if
I was looking at a picture. I remember it extremely vividly.
That never gave it two thoughts, you know, until the uh,

(01:24:24):
until somebody showed me that picture, and it just I
guess it just refreshed my memory or made me want
to talk about something. I didn't really think it was
a big deal. I guess my mind treated it as
just walking by and seeing a stick laying on the road,
and it wasn't a big deal to me, Like if
it was I did see something about uh uh was
this maybe within the last five or ten years, uh,

(01:24:47):
standing in my front yard just looking up at the
stars and stuff and that kind of in an airplane path,
you know, even though I'm probably an hour from the
show airport, you know, there's a flat path and anywhere
around here there's a plane sign all the time. At
certain hours, but just happened to stand there, wasn't thinking
about anything, just out there in the front yard, hilder
and looking up at the stars. It just got dark.
Might even been taking my dog out these back then,

(01:25:07):
this front yard on the leash. But I just remember
looking up, looked up and a little bit to my
maybe kind of two o'clock, looked up and over to
my right that I saw a white light coming at me.
I just thought it was a plane, you know, because
they actually kind of come from that direction sometimes, and
it was just flying. It looked like at the speed,
you know, it's like a plane at regular altitude flying
towards you know, nothing to see here. And I watched

(01:25:30):
it for about four or five seconds only because it
was the only only plane in the sky, just kind
of looked just caught my tension, and all of a
sudden it was kind of coming forward me right at
the two o'clock angle. So like if I'm looking forward
towards the street in my front yard and look over,
kind of look over and up at two o'clock, it
would have been flying directly at me. And then as
I'm looking at it, so I'm standing kind of looking

(01:25:50):
at it now, all of a sudden, it took off
and it was gone out of the gallaxy in like
a millisecond. It left the trail and it moved like
all I can explain when I explained, if you, let's
explained to people like two people, like a million miles
an hour, just completely like something you would see on
Star Wars or Star Trek whatever. It blew my mind.

(01:26:12):
I don't know what it was to this day, but
it was fast and it wasn't like you know, I'm
not talking about x F sixteen fast. I'm talking about
you could see the diss in it. It had gone
like it looked like it traveled a million miles in
a millisecond. Was gone.

Speaker 1 (01:26:33):
Yeah, that's incredible. I've seen similar and a lot of
people who have encountered Bigfoot do encounter the paranormal and
UFO activity, and I feel like it's one and the same.
It makes me wonder why, yeah, why certain individuals have
these experiences, and yeah, I definitely feel like it's connected.

Speaker 2 (01:26:54):
Yeah, Okay, you trying to think if there's any go ahead.

Speaker 1 (01:26:58):
No, I was gonna ask do you have any other
Bigfoot experiences you would like to share before we wrap things?

Speaker 2 (01:27:02):
Up. Yeah, I think that's pretty much it. Yeah, that's
all I can think of.

Speaker 1 (01:27:08):
Okay, mull time.

Speaker 2 (01:27:09):
Enjoy watching her show. Yeah, I appreciate you.

Speaker 1 (01:27:12):
I appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (01:27:12):
Actually, when I reached out to you, you know, I
didn't even really you know, want to be on the show.
I was just kind of want to chat and talk.
But you know, like I said it, it doesn't bother me.
You know, we're not gonna use in my real name.
So but for anybody who listened, I would like to say,
I guess I guess anybody could say this. Maybe this
will create learning comments. I don't really care about the comments.
But uh, everything I've told is as factual, detailed and

(01:27:37):
just to the point as I can. I I haven't
exaggerated anything to Hollywood it up, you know, just as
I remember.

Speaker 1 (01:27:48):
Yeah, absolutely, And I'm glad you decided to share these encounters,
these experiences on the channel and it really means a
lot to me and it was definitely worth it. Sounds good,
all right, Well, Tom, you have yourself an excellent day,
take care of yourself, and if you encounter these things
in the future, or if you find more structures that
are very intricate, feel free to share them with me.

Speaker 2 (01:28:11):
All right, I'll do that, and I appreciate having me
on Miguel best lut to you.

Speaker 1 (01:28:13):
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