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In this episode of Sasquatch Theory, we interview Chelsea Joe from Kansas, who has spent much of her life surrounded by strange and frightening encounters. Her journey began on a farm in Arkansas, where horses were spooked and foul smells filled the air. Later, along the Mississippi River, Chelsea and her sister came face-to-face with something she believes was Bigfoot.

Years later, while living alone, Chelsea’s encounters escalated—trash was rummaged through, chickens fled to roost in trees, and something massive repeatedly came onto her property, terrifying even her hound dog. One unforgettable night, Chelsea and her father witnessed a huge, gorilla-like creature shake a tree before walking into the woods—an event that sparked her father’s lifelong curiosity about Bigfoot.

Chelsea’s sister and friends would later admit to seeing similar creatures, including one crossing the road, while Chelsea herself encountered glowing red eyes and strange, otherworldly movements. She believes these beings may be interdimensional.
 
Join us as Chelsea shares her chilling experiences, family revelations, and theories about what these creatures might really be. 

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Welcome back to Sasquatch Theory. In today's episode, we sit
down with Chelsea Joe from Kansas, who has experienced a
lifetime of strange and chilling encounters that began on a
farm in Arkansas, from spooked horses and foul odors near
the Mississippi River to terrifying moments at home when something
massive stocked her chicken coop. Chelsea's story reveals years of

(00:27):
unexplained activity, with her father as a witness to a towering,
guerrilla like figure, and her sister finally admitting to her
own bigfoot encounter. Chelsea's journey is one that connects family, mystery,
and the possibility of something beyond our dimension. Get ready
for a fascinating and eerie story you won't forget. If

(00:48):
you guys enjoy Sasquatch Theory, please like the video, subscribe
to the channel, and be sure to calming down below.
If you have a bigfoot encounter you would like to
share with me here on the channel, please get in
touch with me sometime at sasqua Watch Theory at outlook
dot com. With all that being said, let's dive straight
into Chelsea's encounters from the state of Arkansas. Chelsea Joe,

(01:24):
welcome Sasquatch Theory. How are you doing.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
I'm doing great, Miguel, how are you?

Speaker 3 (01:30):
I am doing excellent. And it's an absolute pleasure to
finally speak with you, Chelsea. If you would tell me
a little bit about yourself, where you're from, and your
experiences from the very.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
Beginning, certainly, well, I was born in Wichita, Kansas, and
it's more like a city thing. But we didn't have
any country or anything like that. But when I was
eight years old, it was nineteen eighty. It is so hot.
We drove to Arkansas and that's when we moved here
to be. We lived with my grandma and grandpa, and

(02:03):
it was the hottest summer. I'll never forget it. Our
car was overheat and it took us like eight to
ten hours to get here, and we lived with my
grandma and grandpa. I was eight and my sister was
like ten, and it was at the end of July.
It didn't take us long to where we wanted to
get out of the house. It was so hot. But
I said, come on to my sister. I can't say

(02:26):
her name, but let's go for an adventure in the woods.
So behind my Grandpa's house. There was a pasture with
two horses and we usually fed them, you know, watermelon rhines,
canalope rhnes, and they were really friendly horses, you know,
not to be anything afraid or scared. But this particular day,

(02:46):
it was kind of weird when we went to the
barbear fence because my uncle had taken us back there
on his dirt bike. There was trails and all like
that that led to the park and you know, so
we went on through the but the horses did not
come up to us or nothing. I thought, maybe we
should be afraid of these horses, but they were kind

(03:07):
of scattered to the right hand side, huddled up together.
For some reason. I thought that was strange. But right
when I got to the tree line, I started smelling
this like garbage, dead body musty odor. And I was
looking and there was garbage, like empty wrappers of little
debbies and like somebody had carried trash off in there.

(03:28):
And I instantly had that instinct of that sixth sense
that I'm walking in there's somebody homeless that's living back
in here. You know. I felt like I was intruding
in somebody's living room or somebody near that and the
smell was extremely strong. The only thing I can describe
it as real musty and like a body odor, you know.

(03:50):
And it was extremely hot, So if it was a
homeless person or whatever it was, I mean it was
suffering that summer because we were breaking a swinging just
getting through the woods. Well, I continued on, me and
my sister on the path and there was a special
place down in the woods that my uncle would take us,
and we just kind of had It's a a deafening

(04:13):
like to where something is watching you. And I felt
kind of creeped out. I'm not like, chanterer, do you
feel something? She goes, yeah, I think we need to
get out of here, I said, I think we need
to too. It was just a sense of danger. So
we were going out and I didn't smell it or nothing,
but we made it outside of the woods and it

(04:34):
was like a lob that head on the end of
the tree line where I sat down, my back was
facing the woods and my sister she was facing me,
which was looking into the woods, and the smell came
back extremely like it was gonna It was like where
you could pass out and the wind blew and I'm like,

(04:54):
who you know because it was obviously something dead and
I it was on the Mississippi River. West is on
the Mississippi River, and my stepdad always went fishing, so
I've smelt dead things before, and it was definitely something
very strong and futrid. Well, my sister was talking and
all of a sudden she looks up and this is

(05:15):
up and she looks back again. She freezes and she's
in shock, and she does like a one eighty turns
around and she just takes off running across the field.
She doesn't tell me anything, and I'm yelling at her.
You know, her name, Chandra, Janda, what are you doing?
So I gotta I guess I better run too. And

(05:36):
her shoes were flying off, that's how fast that she
was running. And I ran and I could feel, you know,
I was so terrified whatever she saw. She was scared
to death running and I knew it was something that
was behind me that had been living in the woods.
But this is my first encounter with what I figured
out later on was a sasquatch. And she didn't talk

(05:59):
about it for you. I met up with her, you know,
I'm like, Chandra, Chandra, what did you see? She didn't
want to talk about it. She was in shop. But
less than a week later, my grandpa was on the
phone and he got off and he said, yeah, they
had to move the horses out of the field, out
of here. And I said why, Grandpa. He goes, something
as spook them, and I looked at him and I'm like, no,

(06:22):
I know, we wasn't supposed to do this, and I
know you told us not to go in the woods ever,
but we went into the woods, Grandpa, and you were right.
He goes, why. I said it was something scared Chander
is so bad that she doesn't even want to talk
about it. And I think, I think that's the same
thing that scared the horses too, And he just kind
of looked at me like a blank expression. He was

(06:45):
a senior Master sergeant in the Air Force, and he
told me that those are considered very dangerous creatures, just
like you know, copper heads or anything like that. In
the military. They've got it listed as asquatch is a
dangerous creature now. And I didn't ever go back in

(07:06):
the woods, but he was right, and I think that
these things are probably endangered species or something. That's why
they got you know, the National Forest saved for them,
and I think that it's a terrible life, you know,
them digging in trash and having this still people's chickens.
But when you look back, I always get my answers

(07:30):
from the Bible. I always talk to God and now
can you show me what the answers are? But I
was reading. I remember a story about Esau and Jacob
and about him selling his birthright, and it's in Genesis
twenty five nineteen, verses nineteen through twenty six. Anyway, he
was a huntersman, and they said that he was born

(07:53):
first and he was covered in fur. He had pink skin,
and I like that. And Jacob was more like his
mother had favor with his mother, Rebecca, and he stayed
in with the Chintz, but he saw he was an
avid hunter and he would bring meat in to his father.
He had more favor with Isaac than Jacob, but he

(08:15):
didn't think any much of his birthright. That anything. In
the Bible, it says that there's two nations in her belly,
one that would serve the other, one would be stronger
than the other. I don't know if have you ever
heard that, Miguel.

Speaker 3 (08:30):
Yeah, yeah, I was watching a video that was explaining
that the other day.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
What do you think about that?

Speaker 3 (08:39):
It definitely made me think of Bigfoot. And yeah, the
fact that he was harry, I mean, that's a clue.
I mean it doesn't say Bigfoot, but a lot of
people have wondered if that's what they're describing.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
I know, it makes you wonder, doesn't it. So my
next encounter, it was years later. I had bought a
house and I was so, you know, happy to have
got my own home, and my dad was working on it.
It's up here Mountain Home on Old Tracy Road, and
of course there was water. Then it was a creek running,
and then there was a it was a channel for

(09:17):
Norfolk Lake. And up here in Mountain Home there's several
water ways, you know, the White River, you got Northfork Lake,
Norfolk Lake, Bulshell's Lake, so we're pretty much surrounded by water. Anyway.
This was on Old Tracy Road and my house sat
off back in the woods, right next to the tree line.

(09:38):
And I wanted chickens, and I've got fifty every year
and raised them in the house and then I would
turn them loose in my chicken coop. And this thing
was ten x twelve and about thirty feet long, and
I had all kinds of I'd put them in the fair.
They'd wind ribbons every year. I don't know if you
know about the ferries, but Baxter County Fairries a big

(10:00):
deal in town. And the kids. I've got three children
at that time. They were little, but they would play
at the side of the yard and I really didn't
want to scare them too much. When my dad saw
the one behind the chicken coop, we just said it
was an owl. Because I had to continue to live

(10:21):
in that house because I bought it and it was mine.
But I was a single mother with you know, three children,
and I was so busy working. I ended up getting
the coon dog. It was a bluetick coon dog that
would look after these chickens because I really like the eggs.
You can do a lot of things with chicken eggs,

(10:42):
you know, potato, salad, all that stuff, sell them whatever.
Homesteading actually, but I had no idea what I was feeding.
I mean, we had coons. I had a four ten shotgun,
you know, I finally got because I was sick of
whatever it was coming up in the yard getting my chickens, foxes, raccoons,

(11:06):
I mean, they're very avid about getting chickens. But I
had no idea that I had a satisquatch in the
backyard either, because it would dig through the garbage and
some mornings I know that I had shut my chicken
coop door and it would be wide open. Whatever this
thing was new how to open up a chicken door,

(11:28):
And my chickens got to where they didn't even want
to roost in the chicken coop anymore. They would roost
in the trees. You know. It got to that point,
and I know for about five years straight, and it
got really bad for three years straight of something coming
up in the backyard because my blue chick hound dog,

(11:49):
he would be on top of the barn and he
would get in these barking sessions to where he was
going nuts out there. And I had old wash machines
that were behind the barn that I would store and
that's how he was able to get up there and
just bark for two three hours straight. Well, when I

(12:09):
would get up, I would never see anything out there,
but I knew something was driving him nuts. And now
looking back, I'm thinking, well, you idiot. You know, me
being so tired working a full time job and taking
care of three kids and always running around. He was
going nuts because whatever it was was coming up that night.

(12:32):
At least three times a month he would do this
and they usually hide in the shadows, but it was
coming up and around the house, you know, And I mean,
what can you do? I had a four ten shotgun.
But the night of the sighting was me and my

(12:53):
dad sitting out there and he was facing the woods
and my back was facing in the woods. Again, like
I said, on my shirt, it says sasquatch saw me,
but nobody believes in. My dad got up real quiet.
We were just sitting there talking, listening to music, and

(13:14):
he was working on the house, adding a room edition
onto it. And he gets up, doesn't tell me what
he's doing. He goes to the very end of my
chicken coop, and right when he gets to the very
end of it, the whole tree just shakes, and I
see him like looking up, the same expression that my
sister had with nothing but shock. And he's looking up.

(13:38):
My dad was six foot five, miguil. He was half
in half Cherokee Indian, and he's looking up and shot.
He was. He was never afraid of nothing, that's why,
you know. He walked up there and he was trying
to figure out what does whatever this thing is, what
do you want? And I said, what are you doing?
He said, there was something that was sitting on the

(13:59):
other side of the chicken coop, just sitting there listening
or staring. I said, how'd you know what was back there?
Because all I saw was a dark figure, black figure.
I didn't see its eyes like Dad saw. And he said,
it was the reflection from inside the house. That's how

(14:19):
I could see its eyes. And I said what it
looked like. He said, look like a gorilla sitting there, big, huge,
massive thing. And he said when I got to the
end of the chicken coop, it stood up. Well, I
know physically that that tree shook, and my dad was
not able to shake that tree. And he said, Chelsea,

(14:40):
if you use your four teen shotgun on this thing,
it's going to do nothing but piss this thing off.
Just come to my house and we'll figure out something
for you and the kids. And I really loved that house.
It was my first house. I didn't want to leave it,
you know. I raised my kids there. I still have
dreams about that house, and so do the kids. We
had a lot of good times in that house. And see,

(15:02):
this thing had been coming up for years and it
didn't hurt us. It could have had us at any minute,
at any time. Me being a single woman with three children,
never bothered the kids, you know, very patient. That night,
I mean I knew it was there because I could
smell something really bad about dusk about nine point thirty

(15:24):
that night with my dad, I'm like, wow, that chicken
coop is really stinking, you know. And it was in
the end of July, first of August, like always, it's
always been in the dead heat of the summertime, usually
around August, because about dusk the daylight saving time is
around nine o'clock, it starts getting dark. Lent must have

(15:49):
been sitting there for about two hours, because that's when
my dad saw it. Around was about eleven o'clock and
then listening to music and he was drinking beer. He
wasn't too drunk, because I know, I saw that tree
totally shake. And the next day I came back over.

(16:11):
I said, let's go back in the woods and see
if we can find any evidence of you know, And
so I got behind the chicken coop. I didn't find
any droppings or hair. But I measured how much that
tree branch was of where it had stood up and
hit the its head on the tree branch, it was
about eight foot to nine foot and Dad said, yeah,

(16:33):
that's about eight and a half nine feet, Paul, And
I can't believe how close it was and how long
it's sat there listening to us, because I'm wondering, what
is this thing thinking? Is it want to ask questions
or you know, it just and when you get in
the mind of it was kind of creepy knowing that

(16:53):
I was sitting there being watched and what it thought,
you know, very peaceful, waiting for us to go in
so it could steal more of my chickens. That anyway,
and Dad got very intrigued with it after that. He
did some investigation on Sasquatch. She said, you know, the

(17:14):
Native Americans they call it the stinky man. And he
was very intrigued with what me and Chandra had experienced
back in the day. And I was finally able to
ask my sister later on, I'm like, Chandra, you remember
that time that you saw that and what did it
look like? And she said, well, it was not human
looking at all. Chells, and she saw another one by

(17:38):
the side of the road one night going down, you know,
when the side of the road. I think it was
Springdale Road in West Helena, and she said she saw
it again standing by the side of the road and me,
I wore glasses, so I'm blind as a bat. That's
probably why i haven't ever seen it. But I have.
I have experienced things in that house that were totally unexplainable,

(18:02):
like my dog on top of the barn, you know,
barking its head off. Dogs don't normally do that unless
it's something on the ground that it's afraid of it.
He got way up high there barking his head off,
and he's actually treated skunk. So I did find out
what some of this stuff was getting in my garbage.
But the whole chicken thing and the door being open,

(18:25):
and I know that I had set it that night,
I pretty much told my dad, I'm going to stay
in the house, but I'm gonna give up on the
whole chicken thing, because I have fought this battle for
real hard for three years, you know, trying to have
these chickens something coming up. I mean, there's a lot
of chickens that if you go down to the creek.

(18:48):
There was chicken feathers everywhere. You could see my chickens.
It was so sad, and these were expensive chickens at
one ribbon some And then years later I found out
that people were talking this is just a couple of
years ago down in Norfk, that there was a sasquatch
spotted stealing and messing with some people's chickens down there.

(19:12):
So they like chickens. And of course I don't live
there anymore. Had I moved away, some things happened. I'm
not going to get into, but I still have dreams
about that house, and so the kids, and you know,
I've talked to law enforcement too, because I've been around
this area for years and this is where my dad's

(19:35):
from and where he was born, and that's why I
came here. But I asked him have you ever heard
anything about sasquatch or anything? And he goes, well, where
were you talking about? I said, I lived on Old
Tracy Road and he said, well, not too far from there,
around the Tracy Ferry Marina. I was out on a

(19:56):
date and we were parked one night, and this was
back when I was in high school. He said, I
told her that we got stuck in the mud, and
he said, I don't know, but right by the window
on her side of the where the woods were, he said,
we heard a creature that sounded like a baboon that

(20:16):
let out this cry, and she was scared to death,
he said. Needless to say, we got unstuck real quick
to get out of there. And of course that's law enforcement.
You know, there's told me experiences about that, and my
grandpa too, you know, so when it's facts and you know,
you just I'm an overthinker, and I'm thinking, there's no

(20:39):
way you can justify some of the things that we had,
you know that happened. It had to be in a sasquatch.
Listening to your podcasts and stuff, I've seen tree structures too.
I didn't know what created those. I'm like, hmm, you
know you're walking in the woods. I'm like, oh, that's interesting.

(21:00):
I don't mean to be a blonde or anything, but
because when you're not taught that these things exist, you're
not thinking, well, it's going to be in a sasquatch.
You know all the different crossings. I've seen those all
my life here in Arkansas. The tree structures and anyway,

(21:20):
is there any questions that you want to ask me
or maybe.

Speaker 3 (21:23):
I've Yeah, it's really yeah, I'm here. It's really interesting
that the sasquatch were approaching your property, and it sounds
like you had a gifting situation unknowingly, and this thing
would listen to you, it'd watch you and wait for
you to go inside to make its next move. And
it sounds like the chickens were terrified and they knew

(21:46):
what was going on. And yeah, so like before your
dad walked up to the chicken coop, you did you
see a black shape? Did you notice anything unusual?

Speaker 2 (22:00):
Yeah? Yeah, it was all black back there, you know
it was. But I'm like, because I looked and I'm like,
what are you doing? Dad? And he wasn't the one
that made that tree shape. It was what stood up
that made that tree. And all I saw was solid black,
and he was in the direction he was looking at

(22:21):
it was shot in shock. Both of his face and
my sister's face. You could tell, because I am into
details that because you know these people your whole life.
You know when they're in shock and speechless and don't
know what to say. And that's what both of them.
It was unexplainable, like, wow, I've just seen something that

(22:44):
is not supposed to be even exists, but it does exist,
you know it very It catches you off guard to where,
Oh wow, what are we going to do when we've
got to settle down and we've got to think rational,
you need a place to stay. It hasn't bothered you.
It ran off from him, it did. It turned around
and it took off like when my dad confronted this thing.

(23:08):
It took a one eight and ran from my dad
and he was face to face. He was on one
side of the tree and this creature that stood up
nine feet tall was on the other side of the tree.
And this thing took off like it was afraid of
my dad. So I know that. Yeah, so I know

(23:31):
that it wasn't He wasn't meaning to harm us, or
he could have had us easily, my kids, me, And
it seemed like every day, Miguel, when I got home
from work, you know how you see something happen, or
something happened once or twice, but the third time and
every time when I would get home, we always use
the back door. We didn't go around the front. It
was just easier that way to go into the utility room.

(23:55):
Every day about the time I would get to that
door or come out. I don't know if you could
hear me walking through the house. It that I had
a tin roof on my where the dog would get
up on the barn. It had a tin roof, and
it was like awkward. There'd be a rock that would
hit that tin roof, and I'm like I noticed the
first time. Then I came back, it would hit it again,

(24:19):
and I know it. I'm like, this is very uncanny.
And I always felt like somebody was watching me. So
I would go in the house and I would look,
you know, through the woods or whatever. But you know
how shadows and the trees that they can always play
tricks on your mind. But I saw turkeys back there.
I've seen deer I always This one was a weird one.

(24:40):
One night I heard whip whipper wheels and it didn't
really sound like a whipple wheel, and they were like
one one was over here and one was over there.
Can you still hear me? Yeah, I'm here, okay, And
just that that whipple wheel, you know different, And then
i've owls that one time I did hear I think

(25:05):
it was a buck that did like a you know
how they smell your scent and they go m like that. Yeah,
I ever heard a buck sniff they don't like your scent.
And I thought for a moment, what is that is that?
You know? But all in the back of that land,
all the way to the creek there was different tree

(25:27):
structures and it was real creepy back there. And then
on past that was a cow pasture, so it was
nothing but woods and pasture and all like that. It's
on five South and Mountain Home Old Tracy Road.

Speaker 3 (25:42):
Yeah, an incredible place to investigate. Did they ever leave
you any items, because it sounds like they were they
were kind because, like you said, it could have it
could have got you guys at any moment, and it didn't.
It took off into the woods. Did you ever notice
them leaving like feathers, rocks, like anything out of place?

Speaker 2 (26:03):
Hmm. You know, I really didn't pay attention that much,
just that the chickens would gone and it was like
a slow thing, you know. It was where to where
it took a few months for them to totally diminish,
you know where. Well, my chickens, there's not much left
of them this year. You know, and and I just

(26:25):
I noticed after I didn't have the chickens anymore, then
I didn't have a problem anymore. Yeah, yeah, I just
felt I mean, even if it was a sasquatch, I
didn't mind him coming up. But it was, like I did,
I quit naming the chickens because you know, it was

(26:47):
too much of a problem with and I did at
one time have a lot of chickens, like fifty sixty
chickens at a time, and that's a lot of chickens
to be eaten off of. I don't think he ever
gifted me anything. I don't remember ever seeing anything that
was of gifting that would have been interesting, though, Just

(27:09):
to be able to talk or you know, wonder what
it's thinking, you know, is what I want to know.
Can you imagine all what it watches us? Do? I
mean other people, you know, when they see people partying
out in the woods or no wonder they run off
or almost like we're they probably think we're all crazy,

(27:30):
could you? Yeah, yeah, I did, because I mean, as squirrel,
a squirrel makes all kinds of noise through the woods,
you know, And I always felt like something was watching me,
even when I would take a shower and I'm like, Chelsea,
you're crazy. There is nothing back there that's going to

(27:52):
be looking at you through the window. Yeah. Right, So
I ended up putting the curtain back there. But I
love that house, Megain. Well. It was like my first
house I ever bought, and it was like a dream,
you know, come true that I was able to raise
my kids there and the kids never had any problem.
They were always having fun and everything. It's just kind
of like the off the wall things that you know,

(28:13):
like the rock always hitting the shed whenever I'd come
or go. It was right at that time when I
would get out of the house and it would you
could I mean, how often do you hear a rock
thrown on a metal shed? And you know a few
times that happened, you know, them hitting the rocks on
that metal shed. That the dog acting like that, he's

(28:35):
trying to tell me, now there's this big thing out there.
I did have a light, you know, a light pool,
but it didn't cover the whole backyard. And I have
sat there, you know, when something was stealing my chickens.
I have sat there with the window, my bedroom window open,
with that four ten shotgun ready and waiting because chickens
will let you know when they're being hunted. And that

(28:56):
night it was just a big old coon that I
shot at butt shot and he made it almost to
the creek because I checked him, he didn't make it.
But with the Sasquatch, I would never shoot one of
those ever, and that'd be just like my death said
enough to piss it off or I don't you know.
That's why I think people need to be aware of

(29:18):
these things out there. I think they want to be
left alone. But what a horrible way to live with,
you know, scavenging, you know food and you know, I
think mine was just an easy meal while they were
coming up, you know, and then there was a water
supply with the creek in the backyard too. And I
think of all your different experiences that I hear on

(29:40):
sasquatch theory that yeah, they are real, and I think
they're a physical video of a physical creature because they
eat and you know, we've heard of side shows where
the dog faced boy, you know, people having these skin
you know differences. Maybe they feel like they're reject from society,

(30:03):
you know, they don't look like us or but I
do believe they are smart and know what they're doing.
I do, But is there any questions?

Speaker 3 (30:14):
No, I mean, I can't blame the Sasquatch. I mean
it was taking farm eggs, and farm fresh eggs are
the best. They're way better than the grocery store, so
I can't blame them.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
Yeah, I know. And both my kids, you know, they
they remember me trying to do the home singing thing,
both Jimmy and Devin. And she's got her little farm
and she's got her eggs, you know that she does.
And then my son he's got chickens too, So you know,
the the chicken eggs are still in the family much.

(30:47):
You're right, they're much better than the grocery store.

Speaker 3 (30:49):
But its like there was a clan of them back
there and they were working together to steal chickens or
chicken eggs. And like you said, they would throw a
rock on the roof signaling that you were moving around
the house, probably getting ready to come out. And I
noticed this.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
On the going, yeah, coming and going one.

Speaker 3 (31:11):
Of my friend's properties. I had an audio recorder set
up out there where he had been seeing the Sasquatch,
and when they were drive down their driveway like they
were coming back from town, coming back to their house.
I would hear a loud would knock power on the recorder,
and then you hear them park and get out of
their vehicle, and they didn't notice anything. They were in
the vehicle and these things were signaling to one another.

(31:34):
That's someone's home. And I just thought that was really interesting.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
Yeah, that's what I've noticed when I was like, this
is like a onenut's not going to hit that tin
roof every single time I walk out the door. And
it was just an eerie presence, you know, you have
these sixth sense. But I was boundetermined to do my
homestead and there, you know, and I had them again,
and it as long as it left me alone. But

(31:59):
I gave up on the whole chicken thing, but it did.
And then I heard tree knocks there too, Like it
was like I would hear a tree knocks, and it's
not just a woodpecker either, you know. It was a
hollow more of a hollow bone bone, you know, out there.
But I didn't know what they were, you know, even

(32:21):
just like the whipper wheels. One night, you know, I
heard them and that was very unusual because it didn't
sound like a normal whipper wheel.

Speaker 3 (32:32):
Almost communicate to each other while blending into their environment, right.

Speaker 2 (32:39):
And I'm like you, Miguel, I want to know, Okay,
the behaviors, but we've got to break the eye. We've
got to somehow communicate with these things and maybe come
to a happy medium to where we can maybe all
get along. I don't know, what do you think? Well?
What is it? It's like they're always on the tree line.
We always meet them on the tree line. I mean, huh, yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 3 (33:04):
And you said it was a black color. Did your
dad describe any features on this creature? He said it
looked like a giant gorilla. What more did he say
about it?

Speaker 2 (33:15):
He said that it was just sitting there and had
gotten real comfortable and just sitting there for a long time,
and that's why he got up and was gonna go
over there and whatever it was, gonna ask it, you
know what is it? And I don't know if you
I probably don't need to say this, but he said,

(33:36):
you're not on that time of the month, are you, Chell?
So I said no, why? And he said, because it
draws animals like that in good Lord. No, no, yeah.

Speaker 3 (33:45):
I've often heard people say that. And I feel like
this creature had a connection to you. It felt comfortable
with you. And there's a lot of people out there
with horses, chickens and livestock, but for some reason, it
shows you, probably because of your kindness, and I don't
know animals can sense that off of people.

Speaker 2 (34:04):
Yeah, but I wonder why it just sat there intrigued
for like that long. I knew it was sitting there
because I could smell, you know, the smell, and it
was stronger than usual with my chicken coop and the timing,
you know, I'm into timing too, and facts that the
time that I smelled that to the time that my

(34:25):
dad realized that it was right there behind the chicken coop.
Is that's why it was so strong, because it was
like only ten feet away from us, if not maybe
thirteen fourteen feet away, because this was a ten x
twelve chicken coop and all the lan anmlers and I
was on the other side and he was on the
other side. That's pretty close. That was very close, Yeah,

(34:50):
for him to be sitting there just intrigued on listening
to what me and my dad have what we were
just sitting there talking, you know, and listen the music.
I think the music probably brought it in because my
dad like listening to old time rock and roll and
sitting there, having some old style and it was a
Friday night, and that's what we usually did, was just

(35:12):
sit in the backyard, you know. And it's eerie to
know that something like that is just sitting back and
watching you, and what are you thinking, Like, Yeah, maybe
it did think I was kind, but I didn't shoot
at it that night. I just accepted the fact that
this is my home. It hasn't hurt me or my

(35:33):
kids or anything. It doesn't mean any harm. It's just
just coming up for food or you know, maybe it
felt like it was protecting us. I don't know that.
I definitely know that. You know. I kept it a
secret from the kids because I didn't want them to
get freaked out because we still had to live there
and I own the home. You know. You can't just

(35:54):
sell your house just like that. And I ended up, yeah,
I ended up putting it up for sale, and I
didn't I never did get what I wanted from it
off of when it was worse. But I wish i'd
never sold it. I wish I would have stayed in
it and continued on because it's a very nice house

(36:15):
that I but we moved on from there. And is
there any questions?

Speaker 3 (36:21):
No, I think you pretty well covered it these things.
This thing was curious. You guys are playing music, you
guys are talking. There was a chicken coop and it
had you pattern down and it knew everything that you did.
Like this time is when Chelsea comes out and feeds
with the chickens, she does this and this, and they
just they probably knew a lot more about you than
what you could even imagine.

Speaker 2 (36:44):
I know. That's what's so eerie about it, Miguel, that
is what's so eerie about it. It knew more about me
than I knew. And I knew something was back there.
I just chose to Hey, I've got a locked door,
I've got a dead bolt. But you know the size
of this thing, Dad said it was eight and a
half nine feet, you know the branch when it hit
its head. And I feel like it was a male

(37:08):
that was living back there, a male. I think the
one that my sister saw was a female, because she
said that it was you know that movie called a
Flash of Beauty. M Yeah, the chair, she said that, Yeah,
the Flash of Beauty. She said it was beautiful, so
I think hers was the first one we saw was
a female. And it didn't mean no harm. It was

(37:30):
just watching us, you know, very intrigued, and I mean
it could have had us the way my sister acted
so terrified. I felt the heat on my back just running,
and I didn't want to you know how you're so
afraid you don't want to look back because it's gonna
be there and you're probably gonna trip. I just kept
on or running, and I zoomed through that barb bar fence.

(37:52):
And of course I was only like eight, I was
only in second grade. She was in the fourth grade.
We learned our lesson not to go in the woods.
And I never got that far in the woods. On
my own property, old Trace, it was about three point
five acres I had, but it was all along the
road and then there's more acreage that let it up

(38:15):
to Stanley Pitchford's cows. There was cow pastures and everything
back there, and I made my way through there. But
you know, it's from that time when I was little.
I think it affected me and opened my eyes to
a whole new world of being in the woods. You
got to be careful, you got to be on guard
because these things. I've always met up with kind ones.

(38:40):
They were more afraid of us than we were them.
I don't think I could handle being with someone with
one that was aggressive. I don't know about your encounters,
but have you ever ran into an aggressive sasquatch.

Speaker 3 (38:54):
Or Yeah, most of my encounters were pretty positive, but
I have run into aggressive ones and conservation areas national
forest and I mean even where I had peaceful experiences
and encounters, I still had some negative ones as far
as them like screaming or whooping so loud that it

(39:15):
sounded like a tornado siren. One charge through the woods
at me, like did a bluff charge, and it just
stopped at the edge of the woodline. I mean, I
feel like that's aggressive. And when they followed me out
of the woods when i'd beat bow hunting, I mean
this was late at night, that was pretty intense. I
feel like it was being territorial and a little aggressive. So,

(39:36):
I mean, they definitely have scared me. But for the
most part, I feel like it was like juveniles and
females that were being kind and gentle. But sometimes you
run into some that just it's a whole different story.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
Yeah, and I think this one I had the more
of the advantage because it was my home and it
knew that it was my home. And I've been feeding
it for about five years. With these chickens, you know,
I did. I was pretty much into I was a
chicken lady big time. I even had a little club
online that I was a part of, you know, with

(40:12):
these chickens. I had all kinds of different breeds. I
could tell you all about these chickens, but it kind
of died for me after you know, the whole sasquatch thing,
you know, not being able to keep any of them alive,
and them just disappearing on me, like massive masses of
them at a time. Would it'd be within the at

(40:33):
the end of summertime, I didn't have any left. And
I would start in the spring around April, and I'd
order them in the order them from Cackle and Lebanon, Missouri,
and they'd ship them to me. And they were all
little chicks when I had it down to, you know,
them being raised for six weeks in the house. Yeah,

(40:53):
and then I would let them loose in the chicken
coop and I always shut that door. And when I'm thinking, uh,
I know I shut that door last night, you know,
you get to where you're doubting yourself it is wide open,
And then I'd make sure i'd shut it again, you know,
and get better latches on there, and then I'd send

(41:16):
the kids, is that chicken door shut? But then you'd
wake up one morning and be wide open, and then
there'd be a total massacre of nothing but chicken feathers
and all your favorite chickens. Like what in the world
came through here? And I would always blame it on
a fox. And I wish now, you know how this
was in two thousand and four, you know how you

(41:36):
could get cameras out. I wish now so bad that
I would have had a camera back in those days.
I have a camera now, and I hope I get
to homestead. I'm looking for property to homestead again and
have my chickens again. But you know, with that other
one down in Norfk saying that one was coming up

(41:57):
and getting their chickens too, and plus the way that
my dog was acting and stuff, it only explains and
what my dad saw. There's just too many confirmations. The
way the tree shook and the way he looked, and
you can't deny facts, and it is true. And I
think people need to be more aware of these things

(42:19):
before they go out in the woods so they can
prepare themselves at least have what would you say, a
nine millimeter or to scare him away, not a twenty two,
But what do you carry?

Speaker 3 (42:32):
A nine? But I mean anything would be sufficient. You
definitely need bigger than a nine to take it down.
But I just feel like as long as you got
something to scare it off, that would be sufficient.

Speaker 2 (42:43):
Yeah. I mean with all the fielding, the field work
that you've done, I'm surprised you've had more encounters than
you let on the on your channel. That's quite a
few that you've had, Yeah, charge and stuff.

Speaker 3 (42:59):
Yeah, I've had a lot of experiences. I've seen them
several times, so I can definitely relate to your experiences.
And it makes sense why these things are so so ripped,
so stocky. I mean, this thing was eating chickens, chicken eggs,
probably stealing people's cattle from around the neighborhood, eating deer
meat and yeah, because you often hear people say this

(43:19):
thing was just ripped and yeah, I mean they're eating good.

Speaker 2 (43:25):
Yeah, Well, my dog he brought up a deer bone,
you know, a leg bone off of a deer once
in the yard. He was chewing on it, and I'm like,
oh my god. Yeah, And it was right around there
around where I live, always bringing up some bones. And
these were big animals, you know, like where it's a

(43:47):
leg bone chewing on it.

Speaker 3 (43:53):
Sure, Dom, Okay, So what else have you experienced in
your life? And what else unfolded?

Speaker 2 (44:02):
Well about twenty sixteen, you know, you talk about supernatural
paranormal things, and you know, I think God allows us
to see things sometimes to strengthen our faith or to
maybe make us aware of our surroundings that we are
not able that we are. We don't have any idea
what's going on and in these areas up in this area,

(44:25):
you know, in the Ozarks. We're mountain Home and it's
northern Arkansas, and it's close to certain places that have
cults and witchcraft and things like that that we are
unaware of as Christians. And I think God showed me
these things so I could be aware of my surroundings
and what the individuals at hand was participating in the

(44:50):
given rides or whatever like that. I don't mind, because
I'm a very kind person. But one night as I
was dropping I call him my friend. We went up
to the cattle gate, and then the second cattle gate,
I saw a pair of big, huge red eyes. And
then I saw a pair of and this was down,
you know, by the lower end of the cattle gate,

(45:14):
and I'm thinking, what in the world, And it's looking
straight at me, and it's kind of like simmering, like smoldering.
Have you ever seen something on fire? Yeah, you know,
like a smoldering red eyes. And before I got to
that gate, I saw that it was a huge figure
and it was kind of like a projecting, a projector

(45:35):
like shape shifting, like lipping thing. And it had a chicken,
a dead chicken right there at the gate that it
had laid right there at the gate. There's a dead chicken.
Because I saw the feathers, you know, and I had
said something earlier that day when we left, I wonder,
what's getting the chickens? Here we go with the chickens,

(45:56):
you know, So there was a the other set of
eyes was a coon, and the big red eyes apparently
was trying to tell me this is what's getting the chickens.
That's all I got out of it, but it was
a creature that was not in this dimension. Miguel and
I shined the light my headlights as far as I

(46:17):
could look, and who who was with me got out
of the car and was drowning and was running after
this thing because it was waiting for us to get there,
and it ran. These things are not like things of
the darkness, are not very bold. I think we've got
more power than they do, and they're scared of us.
But it will anyway. I saw the back end of

(46:40):
this thing and it was dragging itself and it didn't
have no legs, and I'm like, holy and I swear
to God, I wasn't drinking. I wasn't on drugs or anything.
That this thing was what, oh my gosh, I've never
seen and it just kind of and there was dust
all around it, and I saw its head. It was
moving really awkward, like with it's elbows, and it had

(47:02):
a hole in the back of its head like a
you know, on the left side. And it disappeared, you know,
into another dimension. And my friend asked, you know, where
did it go? Shine your lights, Chelsea, And I'm like,
I don't want to shine my lights. It's terrifying. I
don't want to see that thing ever again. And these

(47:23):
things that happen, they happen when you're not even expecting this,
and you don't even know why. So again I went
to the Lord. He told me, you know, he took
me to Genesis three three where it talks about the
devil and it explains it. It's that man would look
at him as the most terrifying creature ever, you know,

(47:45):
and that you will crawl on your belly and eat
dust for the rest of your days, and it would
be lower than the cattle. Even this was a perfect
example right here that was is low and it was
like looking up at me and and I still feel
like God was trying to tell me that that that
is the devil and you probably shouldn't be going there anymore.

(48:08):
You know that in this area and I don't know
if you you know where I'm talking about, right, Miguel, Is.

Speaker 3 (48:15):
It the same area that you have the bigfoot encounter? A?

Speaker 2 (48:19):
No, No, that's Baxter County. I'm talking about Mary. I'm
talking about Marion County up in this area. You know,
we're close to the KKK, and I don't want to
get anything, you know, in this area. There's a lot
of hate, you know, and if you're from the outside
or whatever, they tend to you know, do all kinds

(48:40):
of stuff, even if they're not of color. But anyway,
it's in occult that's up in this area. And I
think that that's what they do. They they do this stuff,
these rituals, and it's really hard to close these portals
unless you have a lot of churches and a lot
of prayer. And I know that God, you know, probably

(49:00):
me to this area to pray for him and you know,
to spread His word and spread some light in this area.
But those things do exist. And I do not question God.
But let me tell you something. When you see something
like that, you have got to have a lot of faith.
Because I was like, oh, Lord, please protect me, you know.

(49:23):
And I think that it was about time for God
to reveal those things to me, because you know how
you always ask God for clarity and for the truth,
and when He does reveal these things, hey, you know,
God is a god of mystery, and you know the
Bible it has all kinds of parables about mystery. And
I think there are things out there that God has

(49:44):
not revealed to us. But they are there. They are
definitely there. I've seen orbs. It was in twenty eighteen.
I was living with a friend of mine. She was Mormon,
not that that's bad. I remember opening up her door
at night and seeing an orb right by her bed,

(50:05):
and then it just disappears. And I told her the
next day, well, and then I saw it at the
bottom of the steps because I was staying with her,
and some people allow these things in their homes. Me
I speak Psalm's ninety one over my home, over my children,
over my grandchildren every day because I just I do

(50:27):
not want any orbs or any type of darkness even
around me or my children or grandchildren. But I speak that,
you know, Psalm's ninety one over my family divine protection,
because I don't care if they're good spirits or bad spirits.
I don't allow anything like that around me. I mean,
you could never be too careful. But I mentioned it

(50:49):
to her, and I said, do you know that you
have a spirit that's by your bed every night? And
when I ope, you know this orbit, it disappears and
it's I've seen it at the bottom of your steps.
She goes, oh, oh, that's my Josiah. And I'm like,
who's Josiah And she said, oh, that's my dad as
son that I lost. When you know, some of these

(51:10):
people that the spirits have fooled them into thinking that
that they are actually good and they're there for protecting them.
I don't know, because it's not like that. In the Bible,
God says he protects us. And you know, I don't
know if the angels came and talk, and you know,

(51:32):
what was that angel Gabrielle in the Bible, the Messenger?
I mean, I think it was an actual angel, not
an orb, because these things don't talk. These are orbs,
you know. And I've heard other people talk about orbs
being in their homes, you know, And now I've seen those.
My dad said he saw and it's recorded in UFO sightings.

(51:57):
Fifty first Street is where he lives in Wichita, Kansas.
Right well, across the street was a school and he
saw a huge, a huge UFO hovering over the school,
you know. And you know, I don't care if people
think that we're crazy, but these things do exist. You
know your mind and know that there are things that

(52:19):
are unexplainable that are going to happen, and you need
to be prepared for them expect the unexpected, because that's
what life is all about.

Speaker 3 (52:27):
Yeah. Absolutely. So the creature that you saw by the
cattle gate, what do you think it was?

Speaker 2 (52:34):
I think it was the devil because if you go
into Genesis three three, it describes him and he was slivering,
crawling around on the ground with no legs, and it
was kind of like moving like a snake too, and
they had these little things in the back of it too.

(52:54):
And people might think I'm crazy with that, but it
doesn't exist. It's in the Bible, I mean. And the
devil he can manifest hisself to anyone if he if
God gives him permission. And I think that's why God
I had been praying for answers, you know, about certain
situations and things that I didn't have answers for. And
I mean, God will answer your person like that, yes,

(53:19):
and so you know, not to go there anymore. You
will reveal things to you. Have you ever had those experiences?

Speaker 3 (53:26):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (53:27):
I have. Yeah, So you know what I'm talking about
about certain people, places and things, you know, dark dark
entities that you don't need to be around anymore.

Speaker 3 (53:41):
And if you aren't messing people in that area, what
do you think caused this. Why do you think you
got to see it?

Speaker 2 (53:51):
I think because since where Christians we carry the light
and you know, the Kingdom of God and the Holy Spirit,
you know, And I'm sure I would be a good
prize for anybody to be converted over to something like that.
But I know my faith is very strong, and I
had been praying, what is wrong in this area of

(54:13):
hy do I keep seeing shadows? Or why do I
keep hearing that? And you know, God will just put
it right in your face. So py Chelsea, this is it? Okay, Oh,
it's the devil. Let me go this way, you know.
And the way it describes it in the Bible is
there's no doubt in my mind it wasn't him, because
he was. It was smoldering, real, cunning, real wanting to

(54:37):
be my friend, and acted like it wanted to be
my friend, like here, this is what's been killing the chickens.
And then when my friend went after it, it's off
running two and they're able to just disappear because you
can't really be hurting physically because he's already dead. I
think that's what the hole was in the back of
his head too, But there's not very much left of him.

(55:00):
It was pretty pitiful. It was nothing but bones, bones,
and burnt to a crisp where he was smoldering and
and it says that he would be eating dust, and
he definitely was eating the dust, is it. Have you
ever seen that Lionel with Charlie Brown? The dust cloud
around him. There was nothing but that in the spirit,

(55:26):
But it was terrifying. I would never want to be
close to it because it had claws and everything.

Speaker 3 (55:32):
Yeah, you can compare the creature to something you've seen,
either like on a movie or on the internet. What
would you compare it to?

Speaker 2 (55:40):
I would say the rake. It was a like a rake.
I don't know if you've ever seen one of those,
but it was a rake. But it was more much
more terrifying than that. And it was more decapitated, like
the no legs, that could barely move. It was totally defeated,
totally defeated and even ran from us. You know, So

(56:05):
if you don't have any fear, you have face can't
they can't urge. Yeah, I can promise you that and
didn't hurt me none. But all it wants to do
is sit there and watch you do and be you know,
make up lies and false accuse you of things. That's all.

(56:25):
What the devil does? You know that meal? You know
in this world being a Christian and those people, you know,
they think they get the power from him. There's nothing
like God's Holy spirit. You know, it lives within us.
And I don't know why it was attracted. Maybe trying
to screw me away from there, you know, put the

(56:46):
fear of God in he so I wouldn't go back,
and maybe that he was trying to claim his territory
over there. But since then, because this was back in
twenty sixteen, since then, they've all been they've all been
in one O were by Jesus. They're all Christians over
there now. So I feel like I've made a difference.
You know, they're not all into that anymore. Things have

(57:08):
gotten better over here, I believe. You know, sometimes God
will put you in places where you think, why God
forsaken place? Just to serve a purpose. And that's what
I feel like I try to do in being kind
and serving a purpose that you know, I'm not perfect,

(57:30):
but I do pray a lot and God reveals things
to me so and I think that's why God. I
think that's that's why God showed it to me this,
I still don't know until I go up there and
he tells me the whole story. He probably that I
know it does exist. I know, you believe in God,

(57:52):
you should believe in the devil. And I never thought
that it would look like that, so defeated and beautiful.
But you know, when he reveals it to you, yeah,
you can't accept that, believe that. Yeah, when I was little,

(58:13):
it was really easy that to know that. I was
in the presence of Jesus in the church, and you know,
we were singing Jesus Loves Me This I know. And
I was only like five, and we were screaming it.
We were screaming it and it was echoing. And they
gave me this little plastic Jesus and I said, is
this Jesus And she goes, yeah, that's Jesus. And I thought,

(58:35):
in my mind with all my heart, I'm like, this
is Jesus. Yeah. We had been singing that song, Jesus
Loves Me this I know for the Bible, you know,
it tells me no or so. And I had already
seen Jesus of Nazareth back in those times, back in
the seventies that's what I had seen already, Jesus of Nazus,
so I knew that it was Jesus is not a

(58:56):
plastic Jesus, and you know, just really burning in my
heart to I mean, I really wish I could see
what Jesus really looks like. Because when I was about
three years old, I would go to a church and
they gifted me one of those pictures of Jesus with
a little night light on it, and my mom told me,
she said, you'd never be afraid of the dark. Jesus

(59:19):
is always with you. And I said, that's Jesus and
she said yes. But it was also a feeling of
being loved and I got it from Sunday School there
and it made me feel protected. And I have since
then realized that you're protected because He's always with you.
I think that's what he was showing me there. You know,
this over sense of love that was coming over me

(59:40):
like I was a pretty big deal. I mean I
didn't feel that with my parents. I don't want to
say I wasn't loved as a child, but this was
an extreme over like, man, a lot of love that
was surrounding me in that after we were singing and
it was an experience that I had its spiritual as
about five years old. And I was taking my chair

(01:00:03):
into the other room because they were dismissing Sunday school class.
And it was just me by myself putting my chair up,
and it was like a little kitchen area where the
lights were turned off, and I kind of whipped around,
you know, feeling all loved, you know, after church, and
there he was. He was standing right there. He was young,
about you know, thirty three, and he had long hair

(01:00:27):
as all I saw was the tips of the ends
of his hair. Because Miguel the crown on him, because
he is a king now he is Jesus is king.
The crown on him is so bright you can't see
his face. It's so like illuminously white. And so was
his clothes. It was a spiritual body that he was in.

(01:00:48):
But I saw the details of his robe. It was
Hebrew clothing and he was in a purple royal sash.
And I saw his hands, you know, he was holding
out to me with love, and it was like of
light and nothing but purity. And I even saw the
him of his Hebrew robe. It had little little bells

(01:01:08):
on it, you know, it was the details of these clothes,
and I'm like, this must be Jesus because this is
over in Israel, what they wear, if Hebrews wear. It
wasn't like normal nineteen sent will happen in nineteen seventy
five May nineteen seventy seven when I saw this and
I was remembering, I'm capturing. I never want to forget

(01:01:31):
this feeling of feeling of love and seeing this, I've
got to hold onto this. You know, It's a special
moment in my heart where I saw him. He revealed
hisself to me, you know, because he will give you
more than the desires of your heart if you seek
him and you will find him. And that's exactly what
the Bible says, that you know, seek me and you

(01:01:52):
will find me. And I've held onto that and times
of darkness or whatever in my life, and even with
the death experience, I know that Jesus loves me. And
even I have to remember back in you know, Sunday
school when we had to scream it. You know, Jesus
loves me. This I know, for the Bible tells me.
So you know it might be elementary, but it's still

(01:02:15):
you got to hold on to whatever you can these
days to keep you know, fighting that you know, against
the evil in this world. But you know, so I've
seen the best of the best and I've seen the
darkest of night and I know where I want to go.
So you know, God has shown me both extremes. Do
you want of this or do you want Well, I'd

(01:02:37):
much rather have you know Jesus when I was a
little kid. But He'll take you through this journey and
if you're paying attention in a spiritual way, he'll show
you different things and different confirmation spiritually. And I think
that that was another thing that he wants, that he
wanted to show me that I in my heart, I
would never admit that I wanted to see the devil,

(01:02:59):
but he showed me, and it was totally unexpected because
he knows it's better than we know ourselves, you see,
And you know, does that make sense?

Speaker 3 (01:03:08):
Yeah, yeah, that's incredible And I can't imagine I had
an experience like that.

Speaker 2 (01:03:14):
Well, thank you, And I'm glad that you are not
like laughing at me thinking that I'm crazy. I'm fifty three.
I've seen a lot of things on this earth and
I've been here and that I know for a fact, well,
all these things are true and things I've seen, and
you can't really put your mind in a box. You can't.
You got to think outside of the box and be

(01:03:35):
open to these things because I feel like God is
waiting and show us even more things that are There's
way more things out there that we can experience. And
if you're closed minded about sasquatch, I mean, how could
you be about anything that he's trying to teach you
or be open to seeing other things that he wants

(01:03:55):
to show you.

Speaker 3 (01:03:56):
Yeah, I completely agree there are things out there that
we just can't explain and you got to experience this,
so you should feel blessed. I mean, some of the
things were terrifying, but it brings you closer to your
faith and you know without a doubt that there are
things going on out there that we cannot simply explain.

Speaker 2 (01:04:18):
Exactly exactly. And that's what I would encourage everybody to do.
To try to have an open mind and try not
to judge people you know that have you know, and
try not to call people crazy because you know, you
never know when the shoe's going to be on the
other foot and you're going to be experiencing that's what
I do. I try not to. I try to have

(01:04:38):
an open mind with everybody and not judge anybody with
what they've gone through, what they've seen and whatever, because
everybody's got a story, and everybody's got a different journey
in life, and none of us have the same journey,
so we all need to encourage each other along the
way and be there for one another and try to
be as understanding as possible with each other and patient

(01:05:01):
with one of those.

Speaker 3 (01:05:03):
Oh yeah, I completely agree. And this whole topic is
beyond just an unknown primate. There's something more to it,
and hopefully we can all figure it out one day.

Speaker 2 (01:05:15):
I hope, so, Migaillan, Okay, Bet, thank you so much
for listening and giving me the opportunity to tell you
my encounters. I really do appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (01:05:26):
Yeah. Absolutely, it was a pleasure having you on the show.
You did an excellent job, and I appreciate you for
taking the time to log down this report.

Speaker 2 (01:05:35):
Okay, hen, thank you, yep.

Speaker 3 (01:05:37):
Thank you, and you have an excellent Sunday. Chelsea.

Speaker 1 (01:05:42):
Joe's encounters remind us that Bigfoot is more than just
a campfire story. These experiences change lives, families, and the
way people see the world, from red glowing eyes to
strange movements that defy explanation. Chelsea believes these creatures may
not be entirely of this world. She does believe they
are flesh and blood. She believes that there is more

(01:06:04):
going on than what we would like to believe. We
hope you enjoyed her incredible story. Don't forget to like, share,
and subscribe to Sasquatch Theory for more interviews and investigations
into the unknown. Until the next time, keep your eyes
open because you never know what's watching from the shadows.
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