Dogman & Bigfoot Encounters in the Pine Barrens | Swampdog's True Story of Survival - SASQUATCH THEORY

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Hey everyone, and welcome to another Sasquatch Theory podcast. On
today's episode, we have Swampdog from the state of New
Jersey and he has some really chilling and terrifying encounters
to share with everyone. Swamp Dog has had several bigfoot
encounters in and around the pine barrens in New Jersey.

(00:27):
Swamp Dog shares an experience where a sasquatch was moving
through the woods and he said it sounded like a
bulldozer and it was screaming its head off as it moved.
He would interact with a group of three sasquatch creatures
when he would be bowhunting in the forest. Despite the
terrifying screams and these things charging at him through the woods,

(00:48):
he claims that they were mainly peaceful and they were
just being territorial. What he experienced later on in life
would truly terrorize his thoughts forever. This is a battle
for survival and swamp Dog claims he would dismiss people
who would bring up the dog man topic and he

(01:09):
later runs into these creatures himself. If you guys enjoy
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With all that being said, let's dive into swamp dogs

(01:31):
crypted encounters from the state of New Jersey. All right,
swamp Dog, welcome to Sasquatch Theory. How are you doing today.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
I'm doing real good. Thank you for putting me on
your show there. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
Absolutely, it's a pleasure to finally speak with you, swamp Dog.
If you would tell me a little bit about yourself
and your cryptid encounters from the very beginning. Please.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
Okay, everybody in the cryptor world they call me swamp Dog.
I live in uh you know, southern New Jersey around
the Cumany County area. Uh I'm not too far away
from the pine barrens that you know. We have over
a million acres out here in the pine barons. And
uh also, uh you know, I live around Farmland and

(02:32):
it's a real well univerbal place. And uh I'm a
bowhunter and uh I'm always in the woods and uh
I was to do. I also do like a lot
of uh you know, fishing and stuff. I mean in
the Bay area off the Jersey Shore and all that.

(02:55):
And uh it's like I said, I'm always in the woods,
you know, and I've been uh my first encounter, well
you know what bigfoot was, you know, Paul of about
nineteen eighty nine. That was the first time I ever
seen one and that was about one hundred yards away

(03:18):
from it. That was a senior in high school. Well,
I mean when that happened in the fall.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
So okay, would you tell me what you were doing
that day and how everything unfolded?

Speaker 2 (03:32):
Yeah, me and my best friend. Uh, there was an
abandoned you know airport here in Violin. That's the time
I live in Violin. There's abandoned airport. And give me
behind the abandoned airport, like in the backside of it,
like it used to be like an entrance, and you know,

(03:56):
we used to hang out out there, you know, make
like campfires and you know, me to do what teenagers
do in the senior year of high school. And uh
so what happened was now give me this is one
of my favorite stories because it also involved my you know,
follow in law seven eight years later down the roads.

(04:17):
But you're gonna get kicked out of this one. It
was about it was it was about eight nine, ten
o'clock at night, and uh, I picked up but well,
you know my girlfriend and my best friend he picked

(04:38):
up his girlfriend, and you know, we headed out there
to meet and we were hanging out and uh and
so about I don't know, about a half hour. I
could remember the time, right, like you mean, in the
half hour that we've been there. I looked up because

(05:03):
I mean I had a point of a bug in
at Pierrero and then my friend of mine he had
a he had a Camaro, and uh, you know, we
always had to be careful because our our dirt and
our trails is like they call it, like uh uh oh,
you know, sugar sand. So you know, since our car

(05:26):
was low, we didn't want to ever get stuck. So
you know, we had a going there pretty quick so
we don't get stuck. So anyway, so so you know,
we were there for about a half hour and uh, up, up,
give me behind the land of this airport, there was

(05:47):
a big hill, I don't know, probably about eight nine
feet tall, give me the hill. And I looked up
at the hill and I see something, but you know,
pacing right to left, left to right, and I was like,

(06:08):
the heck is that? And uh, I thought, you mean,
at first I thought was a big person, you know
what I mean, because it was about being a pretty
big guy. And uh. I got hold of my friend
and I said, you know, what's that over there? And
uh He's like, I don't know, some guy walking back

(06:30):
and forth. He looked pretty mad, and I said, yeah,
so well give me. We kept looking at him, and
then I'm starting to realize. I'm starting to realize this
thing was about seven eight feet tall, you know what
I mean This, I mean, you know, for what for
what I'm saying, I'm six too, and do me. This
thing was, you know, way bigger than me. And I

(06:54):
was I was, like him, dumbfounded, and uh so, you
mean we kept looking at it, and we kind of
took like, on don't know, four or five steps towards
this thing, and that's when it stopped and it looked

(07:20):
at us and made some kind of noise, and then
they started pacing back and forth, back and forth, right
to left left to right, you know. And our first
we thought was, you know, I mean, but even somebody
living out in the woods but this thing was way
too big to be a person. So h So we're

(07:46):
looking at this thing, and the girls, you know, they
just wanted to get in the cars and leave, and
we just stand at this thing. And then like all
of a sudden, as we're looking at this thing on
the right of us, but uh, there was like a
little tree line and we heard, like, all, give me

(08:12):
a big French you know, a snap and it sounded
like a gunshot. You give me like a shotgun. And
when we heard that, we jumped in their cars and
we took off. Now where I ever was my boy
of mind. He got stuck, well not stuck, but I mean,

(08:34):
you know, well, well he did get stuck. And I
looked behind him, and like I said, the sand is
like you mean, it's like a sugary sand, and we're
just panicing trying to get out of there. I drove
around him because if I didn't, I probably would have
got stuck too. And then and then you know, finally

(08:57):
he got unstuck, and uh, and then we left there.
And uh, that's that's my first encounter to me with
a big foot. That was I believe he was between
seven and a half eight feet tall and then we
have I mean the one that you know broke the

(09:19):
branch that you mean behind us, I mean a little
tree line. We never seen him. All we did was
hear and like I said, when he broke the branch,
I guess that. Guess sounded like a shotgun went off,
So you know, so I mean that right there, and

(09:40):
then I kind of knew what it was, you know.
But but you know, fast forward, I say, uh, you know,
seven eight years I had met my wife and and uh, um,

(10:03):
I guess her father he was He was born and
raised in Violent. Also I didn't notice at the time,
but when I went to go meet him, you know,
I want to go meet her parents. Give me we're
having coffee and you know, and then the bey goes
over the table stuff, and uh that's scause. I never

(10:27):
told my wife this, like she was my girlfriend at
the time. But you mean I never told my wife
what had happened that that fall of eighty nine, so
you mean out of the blue. But you know, she
tells her dad, He said, dad, Uh you mean, tell
tell swamp what what happened to you when you were

(10:49):
when you went camping back there? Give me mind that
area and uh he really didn't want to talk about it, so,
you mean, she kept telling me tell me. So he said,
when he was a teenager, like you know, fourteen fifteen
years old, I think it was him and his buddies

(11:11):
used to go camping back there in the same area
where I had my first encounter. And he said, one
night they made a campfire, and you know, they were
cooking hot dogs and stuff like over the fire, and
I guess he looked back up in the was in

(11:33):
a tree line, and it was basically the same area
where I seen my encounter. He said, there was an
eight foot a creature, he said, and he never said
it was bigfoot. He said it was like an eight
foot a creature and it was like standing there looking

(11:58):
at him as they were like around the campfire. And
when they and when they stood up to get a
better look at this thing, I started walking down that hill,
the ones like I'm telling you about. And as they
were starting to come down that hill, that's when they

(12:18):
ran away. So when he said that, and I asked him,
is that the same place for this where the airport
used to be and all that stuff, And he said, yeah,
because that's where they used to go camping. And I
didn't say nothing about my encounter. I was just like dumbfounded,

(12:39):
Like you know what I mean, because this happened, I
don't know. I'm guessing what was like in the late
forties or early or early about fifties. So whatever I saw,
he saw you back in the day. So you mean,
that's why that's why I say that this is my

(12:59):
favorite by give me my encounter, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
So, yeah, yeah, that's incredible. It's amazing when you hear
other people's encounters and you find out it's in the
same area where you had that encounter up.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
Yeah, that kind of freaked me out a little bit
because to me, I never told anybody about this, And
I mean, I guess my friend he never said anything either,
But jim me, that's that's what kind of woke me up,
you know what I mean, Like you know to these things.
I mean, you know, like, give me to that, give
me to that encounter, give me what happened to me,

(13:38):
because he's seen it. This was eighty nine and like
when I seen it, like in that area and when
he was talking about probably like that, like I said,
the late forties or early fifties, that's when they had
the encounter over there. And when they wean away because

(14:00):
that this thing was coming down the hill. He told
me they ran away, they left everything behind the fire.
The campfire was still lit, all the tents were still
there and all that stuff. And then I don't know
about two three days later, they went back there with
their dads, and you mean they picked up everything, you know,
all their tents and you mean, all their equipment they

(14:22):
used for camping. So yeah, that's so. You mean they've
been down here for a while. And you know, but
like I said, that was my first encounter was in
eighty nine, and you mean I've been dealing with these
things since eighty nine.

Speaker 1 (14:38):
So yeah, that certainly validates that these things are living
in the area. Swamp Dog. What else happened after that encounter?

Speaker 2 (14:48):
Oh? This a I had a few things happened. I mean,
I come from a truck drop family and drug and
you mean at the time, my father had rum me
had his own trucks and stuff. So I'm gonna tell

(15:09):
you this one. I used to drive for my father.
I was but this is before I met my wife.
This is maybe by two years after I graduated, I
started driving for my father because you know, I turned
twenty one, and I mean I could run over the road.
So what happened was our broker had a countract but well,

(15:38):
you know with a company that used to ship self
to Charlotte, North Carolina, and this warehouse was maybe about
a half a mile away from where I had my
first encounter. This happens all in the same area. So

(15:59):
happened was uh uh, I mean they called us around
six o'clock at night and you know told, I mean
told me the lode was ready to be picked up,
and uh, I just had a but I just had
a hook up to the trailer and go. So what
happened was I got there. It was late at night

(16:22):
because after being Charlotte TI the next afternoon, because I
mean after an appointment and uh so late that night
after they called me, I went down there to hook
up the trailer. So I mean I back up to
the trailer and uh I hooked up the airlines right

(16:44):
to the trailer and then I was I was walking
towards the middle of the trailer, but to get to
my landing gear. So so you mean I could raise
a manding legs and just go, you know, could my
paper work was in the back of the trailer and

(17:04):
I had grab the paperwork and then put the seal
on the trailer doors. So as I'm rolling up, well,
as I'm getting ready to me to roll up the
landing gears, I heard this sound and it's coming through
the woods and it was like it was like a

(17:26):
bulldozer going down, I mean, uh to me, going through
the woods, and I'm like, what the heck is that?
And it was screaming and it was like a it
was like with somebody who was blowing a horn for
a train. That's why it sounded going through the woods.
And and you mean, I completely like froze. Now where

(17:49):
I was, there's woods all the way around me, and
it was only one light, like you mean like when
the pole that was on, So it was pretty much
dark out there, you know, and you know, the only
lights that I had on was the lights on my truck,
I mean my head lights. And so I completely like

(18:10):
froze because when I heard this sound coming through the woods,
I froze, and uh, I'm thinking, I'm an immediately I'm
in danger, you know, because I never heard nothing like
this before, and that scared the hell out of me,
and what I what happened was I I couldn't move

(18:33):
for a second or two, and then I finally said
it myself. My mind says, I got to get out
of here. That's how scared I was, because I never
heard anything like that. I mean it was it was
coming through the woods. I felt like it sounded like
a bulldozer crashing through the woods. And uh, you mean

(18:58):
like train horns going through the woods. I mean like
it was a real big loud argue me like like screams,
you know what I mean. So I finally got to
move and I had to get underneath I mean like well,

(19:20):
I mean between the trailer and the tractor because I
had a unhooked the fifth wheel. I slapped the airlines
off the trailer. I jumped in the truck and and
you mean I took off and uh I left the
load there. I mean I didn't even take the trailer

(19:41):
because you mean I didn't mean I didn't roll up
the landing gears. I came back home and my Dad's like, Yo,
what are you doing. I says, I'm not going. I'm
not going to arguments trailer at North Carolina tonight. I'll
picked the load up in the morning and he said, well,
that load had to be there like in the afternoon.
I mean on the next day. I said, I don't care.
I said, I'm not going back in there. And I

(20:03):
never told my father why or anything like that. You know,
everybody wasn't too happy with me that day, but uh uh,
I never I never got that trailer to the next day.
And when I got there the next day and I
hooked up to it, I was just flocking around and

(20:26):
you know, it's just like it was a scary day
that night for me. So I told my like, you know, broker,
I said, listen, if the trailer's not loaded but early afternoon,
I'm not going up. I'm not going back there at

(20:48):
night to pick up the loads. I'll only pick up
the trailer during daylight and when somebody's around. So, I mean,
everybody thought, I mean, I was weird, and you know,
but that was that was another encounter. But that happened
about half a mile away from my first encounter.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
So yeah, that's terrifying. Do you believe it was the
same creature and do you think possibly they're following you around?

Speaker 2 (21:17):
I don't know it was the same creature, but I
know they're there, and I know, I mean, like, nothing
sounds like that going through the woods. I don't care
if it's a grizzly, it's not going to sound like
that going through the woods. So I mean, I knew
what it was, and I made up my mind that
I wasn't going back. I wasn't going back in there

(21:39):
like a nighttime. You want me to pick up any
loads or you may pick up any trailers or anything
at nighttime. Like everything I had to do how to
be doing today, I wouldn't go back there at night.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
Why do you think the creature charged through the woods
and why do you think it was screaming?

Speaker 2 (21:55):
Well, I always thought about that, But you mean I
I remember when I was going down the road and
I was pulling into the entrance of the warehouse. There
were three dose I was in the middle of the

(22:15):
entrance and they were just standing there, and uh, I
brewed my truck horn and he finally moved. And you
mean I went to go do my business. I mean,
but you mean I was a big for society, and
you mean I had told Jerema the story. But you mean, like,
the more that I think about it, I'm thinking when

(22:37):
I blew that truck horn, I must I would have
made it mad or or like you mean, I mean,
I don't know, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
Yeah, that makes possibly for you, you scared off the
food source with the truck horn.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
Yeah, that's what you mean. I don't think because I
mean when you think about is over the years and
then like I mean, like you mean, let's say, like
me eight years later, like I think about it, and
then I said to myself, you know, I did blow
that truck horn that night. Let me just get the
deer to move out of my way, you know what
I mean, because they were standing there like they didn't

(23:18):
care that I was pulling in like you know, with
an eighteen word and they were just standing there looking
at the truck. I mean that was kind of weird
because you know, dere usually don't do that. I mean,
they just don't. You mean, they just don't. You like,
you're like you stand there, you know what I mean.
So well, I mean I just blew the truck horn
like normal, you know what I mean, just boom boom,

(23:38):
you know, and uh and then to me, they finally moved.
But uh, you know, like you had come to think
about stuff like that. You mean, like I said, you
mean like you eight, nine, ten years later, you mean
you're thinking about it. I said, well, you know that
night I did blow the truck horn. Maybe maybe I

(23:59):
pissed it off, you know, or something, you know what
I mean. So you know that's why do you mean
over the years when you think about it, I mean,
you come up with stuff that you remember.

Speaker 1 (24:08):
You mean, you know, so yeah, that's a plausible explanation
as to what happened.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
Mm hmm, yeah, so you know, and then I had
other encounters. Uh. You know, I was driving for another
company that this is like years down the road, and uh,
I went up to Uh, I went up to make

(24:35):
I went up to Maine. Uh give me to make
a delivery because I was hauling produce, like you know,
Jersey produce and and I hold produce the Maine and
uh whenever we get unloaded, we used to go to Hollis,

(24:56):
Maine to pick up you know, water from Poland spring.
And you mean that was our back hall coming back
to Jersey. So uh, I shouldn't say this, but I
mean I was on my third round down the main
and uh I was I was that truck driver that

(25:19):
had two or three love books. And you know what
I mean, I was running day and night, you know
I was. I was like, I was like, yeah, a
low truck driver, so anyway on my way back to Jersey.
But but I mean I had my wife with me too,
and uh I came down to geergya turnpike, and I

(25:39):
mean I got off back six seven over there down
a boat in town, New Jersey, and uh stoup of
the trucks up and got coffee and stuff. And I
was really beat. And that's what I But the trucks
out was full, and I mean I couldn't find no park,
no place to park, and me take a half hour nap,

(26:01):
give me just to get back home because I was
only like, you know, sixty miles away from the house.
So uh I went down. I let the truck stop,
and you mean I come down. You I got on
the arm ramp like for two ninety five south, and

(26:23):
you mean, and you know, two ninety five south rung
along alongside the Jersey Turnpike. But uh I jomp about
two ninety five south. I told my wife, if I
could find a parking spot here, like in the rest area,
I'm gonna pull over. And take a nap because I
can't keep my eyes open. I mean, I was fighting

(26:44):
to keep my eyes open. And uh, so you mean
that's why I did. You mean I found a parking spot.
It was like like like you mean like me, it
was there a parking spot, but you mean it was
a Uh I could park in this area and I

(27:04):
could be lou get me out of the way where
where people can like you know, go around me and
something like you know, and then I exit, exit the
rest area. So I went back there, and then my
wife took a nap, and about a half hour later,
you and my lung went off, and I got up

(27:27):
and said, all right, I'm going to go home. My
eyes are okay, I guess, and uh. I got up
on the driver's seat. But I put my boots on
the stuff, and I'm getting ready. I turned all my
lights on. You mean my headlights. My market lives were
already on. But mean, I turned all my headlights and
all that stuff, and I was getting ready to do

(27:49):
my law book because at the times, that's that's how drivers,
you know, did they did their time Jimmy to drive
me times, I mean on a law book. So so
I mean I'm doing my paper work, had my head
down on my lap and I do my law book.
And then my wife she's just getting out of the
bed and she's getting ready to put her shoes on.

(28:13):
And what happened was I popped my head up and
when I popped my head up, I saw something about
seven foot tall. I believe it were like seven foot tall,
but it was lot just skinny, and it was running

(28:35):
across the parking lot of the rest area, and it
was running towards the highway, you know, about two ninety five.
And when I looked up and I'm seeing this thing.
And it was funny because I always said that it

(28:57):
was running, but it was running smooth, like it was
like on a skateboard or skates. Like you know when
you run your like your body goes up and down.
You know what I'm saying, Like, GIVE mean like you're
running like that. This thing was moving really really fast,

(29:18):
but it wasn't doing like a head bopping. I mean,
like like a person that's running like I mean, it
seemed like it was like on a skateboard or it
was on roller skates. And when I ran in front
of my truck, I seen it. It was like twenty
yards away from my truck. I've seen it running across

(29:41):
in front of my truck and it jumped into a
ditch and it disappeared. So I'm my thing was I
think it was going to run across by giving me
the highway by two ninety five. So then I yelled
at my wife. I says, yo, did you see that?
And she's like, I didn't see anything. I put my

(30:03):
shoes on and I kind of got aggravated with her.
I said you never see anything. I said, open your eyes.
I said, you didn't see that running and she said no.
She said what was it? And I told her it
was a big foot and she said, you're crazy. I said,
I'm telling you it was a big foot that right
across my truck. Now, like I said, this is sixty

(30:24):
miles away from the area where I got my first
you know sighting. Well like actually like if you did
the like if you did the milage, it's actually like
sixty two sixty three miles away, like from board In
town to Yolin. So then I was hyped up because

(30:48):
me I was dead dog tired, and now I'm wide awake,
like I slept like twenty hours. I was excited. I
guess my drelline was pumping and I had a spotlight,
like I mean those old please cars on the cap
of my truck. And as I was driving by where
I seen it jump into the ditch, I shined the

(31:09):
light there and but you know, I didn't see anything.
So I don't know whether it ran across the highway
or it ran alongside my truck in the woods and
I didn't see it, you know what I mean. But yeah,
that was like, you know, sixty two sixty three miles
away from my you know, you know from my hometown

(31:31):
and from my first sighting.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
You know, can any features on the creature and what
it looks, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
This day was real skinny. I mean I always said it.
It looked like it was like Mountain Irrish, like the
first but you know big Foot that I seen. This
thing was, like I said, was seven and a half
eight feet tall. But it was big. Give mean like
give me like a body, daughter, because but because you
can tell give me by the outline of this, give

(31:59):
me the shape of the body. But this thing here,
it looked like it was mountain norseh It was tall,
I mean, like yes, seven seven and a half feet tall,
but it wasn't big like a body daughter like it
was really really thin and you mean, that's the only
time I've seen one like that, you know what I mean.

(32:20):
It was like, you know, really thin, like you mean,
like I mean, it wasn't like like anything like you
mean what they say, you're mire three four foot oh
you shoulder lands or nothing like that. It was just
so you mean, I don't know it was a juvenile
or what, but like it was pretty tall though, so
I mean, I don't know, I don't know what you

(32:42):
consider you mean, like a seven seven and a half
foot tall a creature that's a juvenile, you know, yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:49):
You know, And that's interesting. You mentioned that it seemed
like it was gliding across the road and it jumped
into a ditch and disappeared.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
Mm hmm, yeah, because you know, you know when you
see somebody like jogging, like you mean their head like
you're bop topping down, you know, I mean, like you
mean you're running. This thing was like it was like
you were gliding on the black top of the parking lot,
like you mean, like you mean, like I knew it

(33:20):
was running, but it was running like it was like
on a skateboard, just so just gliding across the parking lot,
and and it ran pretty fast. I think if I
didn't put my head up, I would never seen it.
That's how fast it went. Like, like that's how quick

(33:40):
this happened, you know.

Speaker 1 (33:43):
Yeah, it's almost like I want.

Speaker 2 (33:46):
Yeah, well, I don't know, because it was running pretty fast.
And and you mean, like I said, you mean, if
I didn't put my head up to look out the
front windshield, I would have never seen it. That's how
fast it was going. Like it was like like that
split like in the second, you know what I mean.

(34:06):
So but that was an hour away, an hour fifteen
minutes away from bugging in my hometown you know, where
like I have my other sightings.

Speaker 1 (34:17):
So yeah, that's terrifying. What else unfolded after this?

Speaker 2 (34:24):
Okay, after that one, I was out there pine barons
again that because you know, we do a lot of
oh you know, four by four stuff out in the
pine barons and stuff, and uh, that's where like I
first got That's when everybody started calling me swamp though,

(34:46):
because I was always like in like in Doug giving
me the swamps and and you know, streams and stuff
with my full of drives and stuff like that. So
it was about eight of us and uh we went
out there and you mean we went camping and uh

(35:09):
all day along, we're running trails and then I don't know,
about three or four o'clock, I mean, we set up
our campsite, and uh so about I'm thinking it was
like eight thirty nine o'clock at night. Like me, we're

(35:32):
all sitting around the fire and you know, we're talking
about trucks and tires and give me suspension lifts and
stuff like that, you know what I mean. And like
it was and like I mean, it was all guys.
There was no girls or nothing. It was all guys.
And you know, we're just mean having the guys weekend.
And uh we start hearing things around the campsite and

(35:57):
like it was like you know, walking around like our
camp but we couldn't see nothing. And we hit it
with our place lights and everything. We couldn't see nothing
or I don't see anything, but we did hear something.
It was something walking around the campsite. So well, you know,
one of our friends of mine, he was like, you're
making a talk about it. He said, well maybe one

(36:19):
then Piney's you know what I mean those pineyes, because
you mean they down there in the pine barons. You know,
we there's pineys, you know, I mean there's people living
back in the woods. So uh. Another guy suggested human
light up off of lights and you mean light up
the trucks and just you know, see what's do you

(36:41):
even't see what's out there? We never did see anything.
All we heard was a real loud howl and all
of a sudden it was like, uh, but you know,
all hell breaking loose, and we heard like tree branches

(37:05):
break and things like there were like two of the
three things out there that like was like, you're going
give me, uh, you know, going crazy, And we all
looked at each other and said, what the hell's then
we all know, we all jumped in the truck and
we took off man and and at the end of

(37:28):
the trail it was routed two o six. Anybody in
you know what I'm talking about, and you mean give
me this is a Wharton State Forest Park, you know
what I mean. So we stopped at the office and
you know, there was a game boarding there and we
all got out of the truck. That ran told me

(37:48):
he was like, what the hell is going on? I said, yo,
you had this happened, and and you and me, he said, listen,
just get the hell out of here. And he come back,
excuse me, and yeah, he said, come back for yourself later.
Excuse me. I'm sorry. And uh, and you mean that's

(38:12):
what we did. We laughed, and we never came back.
About a week later, me and my buddy of mine,
we went back there and we put everybody's stuff in
the back of my pickup and his picked up and uh,
and we just cleaned up the spot and we're looking

(38:34):
around and and so my buddy of mine, he walked
back in the woods and he said, Yo, look at
all these branches and all this stuff that's tore up,
like you mean, like a bear or deer was back here,
and you mean turning up the grounds, you know what
I mean. And uh, that's that's what I knew. I mean,
you mean, I already knew. But you know, I never

(38:55):
said nothing until none of my friends, because you know,
I don't be ridiculed. So I'm looking around the campsite
for tracks and stuff. I never did see any tracks.
I didn't see no tracks in the campground. But then
you know, it was it was the fall and uh,
you know, but I mean I never did see any tracks,

(39:17):
but my buddy of mine and me, I mean we
saw all these you know, like broken tree branches. And
that was the first time that I was seeing like
a give me, like a twist. Give me because I
mean a lot of these little like you know, pine trees,
they were broke, but not completely broke. They were they

(39:42):
were like a twist and give me bent over. That's
when I first ever saw like a tree twist, a
tree twist. I'm sorry, and I was like, man, that
was kind of strange, you know what I mean. But yeah,
that's uh that what happened. There was eight of us

(40:02):
and then the eight of us. You know, we heard
that like it was like World War three back in
the woods. That we never did see anything back in there,
but we heard everything, all the commotion and everything. So
give me that was back in the Pine Barans. That
was above by give me Hamilton Township off about two
or six a place called Wharton State bars that's part

(40:25):
of the Pine Barons, that's part of the one million
acres back in there.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
Yeah, that's terrifying. Why do you think these creatures reacted
that way?

Speaker 2 (40:35):
I think they didn't want us there. I think you know,
our trucks, Our trucks were loud, and you know, our
trucks was loud, and you mean that noxious, you know.
I mean we had you know, tires between thirty eighth
to forty fours, you know, I mean, you know what
I mean, We had big, big, jacked up trucks. And
you know, we were drinking beer and we're eating around

(40:58):
the campfire and you know, making noise and laughing and
you know what I mean, like you know, doing what well,
do what well eight guys would do, you know back
in the woods. You know what I mean. I mean,
you know, we're just having a good time, and I
think it didn't want us there. So I mean that's
when I think we made it really really mad that
night and we all took off. Man, I'm telling you

(41:21):
it was. It was like a parade of mud trucks
going through the trail doing about during a sixty mile
an hour going through the woods, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (41:29):
Yeah, I was, uh like the park ranger knew what happened.

Speaker 2 (41:35):
H Yeah, because like I said, you mean, but before
all this happened that night, I already had my encounters
before and I knew what it was, but like I said,
I never said nothing because I don't want these people
think I was crazy or you mean, I don't want
to be ridicule. But when we were telling about when

(41:58):
we were telling the park rare, I sensed that he
knew what it was like, you know what I mean,
the way the way he was talking. He said, listen,
just get out of here, come back in a couple
of days and get your stuff, you know what I mean.
But the thing was, we told him that we let
the campfire on, like we took off, because then we

(42:22):
got scared, and he says, and like I mean, he
asked where he was and we told him, and and
you mean he said, you know, don't worry about it,
I'll take care of it. So I'm pretty sure he
knew something. Now if he went back there by himself,
I don't know, because I wasn't there, like you mean,

(42:43):
we took off, but uh, I mean, he did say
don't worry about it, I'll take care of it, which
is kind of strange because you know, when you leave
the campfire on, you would think by give me the
park where you would say something, you know, like you
mean to holler at us or something, you know, for

(43:04):
doing that. But you know, but we had no toys
we left, you know what I mean, Like you mean,
it was it it was like World War two going
back in there.

Speaker 1 (43:14):
So yeah, and from what you're telling me, it sounds
like he was very aware that these things have been
in area.

Speaker 2 (43:22):
Yeah, well, you mean I lived in this area all
my life. As like I said, I'm an over road
truck downer. I've been all forty eight states in Canada.
And uh, I do believe you mean the park rangers.
I do believe the game warden. I do know that
that the city police knows about these things. Okay, you

(43:45):
know what I mean. But human they know, you mean,
they know these things are out there. I know they
know that. Give me the things are out there, you
know what I mean. And the funny part is, like
you mean, I got a couple friends that are that
are conference I can ever see their word right, conservation

(44:06):
officers that you give me they're like game wardens. But
I know I know a couple of them, and I
know that they know that I know, and I know
that they know you know what I mean about these things.
So you know, it's and it's weird because everybody says,
you know, oh, you know, you mean, but right, because

(44:30):
every time people think about Pickfoot, they think about you know, Missouri,
they think about Tennessee, Kentucky, West Virginia. I mean, when
people think about New Jersey, they are more likely think
like New York City. But when they come down here
in South Jersey, let's say, from anywhere from Exitus seven
off the Jersey Turnpike all the way down to the bottom,

(44:53):
it's all woods and farmland, you know what I mean.
I mean, you know, it's it's like I said, we
got over a million acres of pineland. I mean that's
not the only you know, woods like in a forest
in the area. I mean, you know, we got other
forests that's not connected to the pine barrens. You know.

Speaker 1 (45:10):
Yeah, absolutely, when I think of Jersey, I think of
Jersey Shore and the pine barrens.

Speaker 2 (45:17):
That's what That's what everybody thinks, you know what I mean,
like the Jersey Shore or or give me New York
City and stuff. But you know, we even have battle
snakes down here. Look, you mean, like in the summertime,
if I'm going out into the woods, I mean you mean,
I did see some rattlesnakes, you know what I mean
laying on a log, you I mean two three miles

(45:38):
into the woods, you know what I mean? And uh,
give me two years ago, I was in my blind
and do you mean do you mean out of bow
hunting and about I say, about eighty yards away from
my blind. I mean I've seen a black bear walking across.

(45:59):
So I mean that's how we have everything what everybody
has down here, you know. I mean I've never seen
a copperhead, but you mean I did see playing the
rattlesnakes in South Jersey.

Speaker 1 (46:09):
So yeah, every state has its fair share of cities,
but also every state has huge forest and areas that
people have just never heard of.

Speaker 2 (46:20):
Yeah, oh yeah, and it goes deep. I mean those
times were like, you know, I go hunt, like I
mean I walk like, you know, like three four miles
to my hunt stand or or you mean I walk
like three or four five miles to my blind. I
mean that's all I mean. I mean, I mean I
can hike like forever, and like they never get out

(46:45):
of the woods out of here in South Jersey, like
you know.

Speaker 1 (46:48):
Yeah, it's pretty remote out there, and I'm curious to
hear what else unfolded. I feel like this is just
the beginning.

Speaker 2 (46:57):
Oh yeah, there's a lot of I mean I had
a lot of counters. The where idea hunt. It's only
about my you know, three miles away from my house,
and it's actually in the type of same area where
I have my encounters. I give you my first, you know,

(47:18):
two encounters, and uh it's about I'll say, about eight
mile radius. I mean, you know, from my encounter to
where I live and where I bow hunt. Now, uh,
you know, for I've been hunting this spot for uh,

(47:42):
I say about five years. I've been hunting this spot,
and I've been all over the woods in my area
where I bow hunt, all over the woods, like I
know every trail. I know that place like the back
of my hand. I know where every stream is, every
little pond, any you know what I mean, every little hollow,

(48:02):
all that stuff. So for the past you know, two years,
well since twenty twenty four on back to two years.
So I say, uhlet's say about the twenty twenty two
to twenty twenty four, I have come across a party

(48:31):
of three you know, bigfoots in my area where I hunt,
and I've been dealing with I've been dealing with these guys,
you know, but you know for three years, you know,
and uh, I'll say about three years ago. You know,

(48:52):
my wife and I we started well, you know, gifting
them anything from ruggy sandwiches to you know, leftover pizzas. Uh.
I mean it was a few times my wife put like,
you know, like like you know, candy bars and stuff

(49:13):
in this you know, in this area where we get them.
And so you mean we've been gifting with these gift
three guys. I never seen a female. I always see
the three males, and I mean it kind of sounds weird,
but it was like, I don't know, like we had

(49:42):
like a relationship with these guys, you know what I'm saying.
And if I go like into the woods, let's say
four four thirty in the morning, and I'm walking through
the woods, like I say, I mean, I mean, I
got to walk in three four miles like to my
blind or or to my tree stand, and it all

(50:05):
it all depends where I want to like hunt that day,
uh me. So I got to walk through four miles
to wherever I hunt, and uh when I park my
truck on my truck is all. It's all I'll camouflage.
I don't know, like if you're my Facebook friend, but

(50:26):
like you see my truck and you and then like
my truck is completely camera so like it seems like
when I park my truck, then like they know that
I'm there. And when they know that I'm there, then
let me know that they're there. It's other by a

(50:49):
whoop or it's never like a scream or anything like that.
It's always like a whoop or a whistle. A few
times I heard, like you mean, like a tree branch break,
and I know they're there, and I never feel uncomfortable.
I never feel scared, and I just go along my business.

(51:15):
I go down the trail, and they never bothered me.
They never did anything like I give me like aggressive
to me. But sometimes when I give me my lunchtime,
I'll get me out of my blind or I mean
out or down from my tree stand. I walk to

(51:37):
three or four miles back back towards my truck, and
a lot of times I might find like, you know,
rabbits on my hood I had doing me a whole
bunch of oh you know, sticks on my hood or
on the back of my bed of my truck, and

(51:58):
that started when we started gifting them, like you mean,
we started the gifting. But then after a few times,
you know, they've been reading stuff for my truck. And
then that's how I know they're friendly, because they wasn't friendly.
They could have just you I mean like a three
four mile hike. You mean they could just you me,

(52:20):
snack me up, or I don't know, you're gonna do
something my truck, you know what I mean? Like you know,
but they never they never did anything wrong to me
or or or like a lot of time, my wife
and I go walk back there and it's like I
said that whoop out us, argue me go whistle, or

(52:42):
or you don't do something you need to let us
know that they're there, and you mean we feel comfortable
with them, Like you know, I never I never had
a bad experience with these three guys. Now. Now, like
I said, I never seen a female. I'm not saying
there's no females in there, but I never seen one.
It's always like it's always seen with these three males,

(53:08):
like you I see and you mean I never see
them up close. I always see them at a distance
or I'll see them like you know, peeking them on
a tree or I mean, they'll be behind a big
you know, bush or shrub or something, and I can
see like the top of their heads maybe like I
don't know, like thirty forty fifty yards away, and you

(53:28):
I know, I know they're there. But you mean, I
just keep walking. I don't I don't stop, I don't
whistle at them or say anything to them. I just
keep walking in my own business. And you mean, I
know they're watching.

Speaker 1 (53:41):
So you know, yeah, that's really interesting. It sounds like
they're living in the area. And I think it's fascinating
that they would leave stuff on your truck. Why do
you think they did that?

Speaker 2 (53:57):
I don't know, I just uh, I always said, Now,
this is my opinion. I always said that these are
you know, bigfoots. They're they're some kind of human. They're
giving me their flesh and blood. And I always believe that.

(54:25):
And they look at you. I think they can feel
that you have good intentions or or you know, you're
just you know there too, like enjoy nature or something.
You I mean, I know, I know it sounds corny,
but you mean that's my opinion. You mean, that's how
I feel about it. And they think that you're you

(54:47):
are good people, and you have good intentions. I don't
think I don't think they will bother you. Now if
you go in there and you're disrespecting, now give me
the forest, that's when I think they get upset. I
mean that's what that's my thinking.

Speaker 1 (55:09):
Yeah. Absolutely. And what happened after these experiences with the
three Bigfoot No.

Speaker 2 (55:17):
We just I've been I've been going in there and
all the way up until the last week of August
of twenty twenty four, I stopped going into the woods
almost a year. I just recently actually last week was

(55:38):
the first time that I went into the woods, you know,
by myself. And it was all because of that you
know document acount that I had on the last week
of August of twenty twenty four. So and then yeah,
I mean all hell is recroduced for that, uh, this

(56:01):
dog man that I encountered. Yeah, yeah, well, you know,
made things you know personal, I mean, you're real personal.
But uh, what happened was that you mean I do
a lot of striper fishing out of the bay, uh, Jimmy,

(56:22):
like you're off the beach, and uh on that day,
uh see, because I usual to be fished at night.
That's when I believe everything happens. I mean everything eat
at night. So I see, I knew that the tide

(56:46):
was going to be in around one ish, one thirty
ish in the morning. So I always fish like you know,
three hours you know before the tide and three hours
after the tide. That's how I do my my stripper
fishing or you know. And so what happened was, I mean,

(57:10):
I go to a place called you know, Forest Counity, Jersey.
Anybody in Jersey you know where that is. And you
know that's a where that's down there about the Delaware Bay.
So on the way there, you know, this is all
it's like I said, it's all woods and it's all

(57:31):
you know, farm land. On the way there, it's all
you know, back roads and you mean a few houses
along the way and and you're a couple of farms.
But I always drive like at nighttime. I always drive
through there real slow. I drive twenty five to thirty

(57:55):
five mile hour tops because all the deer, I mean,
this place is with deer. And you know, not only
deer have other creators like fox, coyotes, you know, skunks,
you know everything. So look that Addie, Uh, well, a

(58:16):
few years back at a deer running the side of
my truck, and you'll put a big deck on my
door and all that stuff. So like ever since that,
I mean, I always drive real slow through there at nighttime.
So I'm going down the road Obama salf My wife
usually goes to fishing with me, and uh, but but

(58:38):
this time she stayed home and start said, you mean
I want you mean, so I'm going down his back rows.
I stopped in Millville, Millville, New Jersey, and I stopped
at a store called Wild Wad. I mean, I don't
know you heard of it, but you mean it's a
popular like you know, deli store, gas station, slash you know.

(59:00):
And Uh, i'n got my coffee, I got my snacks,
I got all the thing I need to you. You
mean to be out there, because when I fished, I
pitched six seven, eight hours at the time straight, you
know what I mean. So I go on down the road.
I started hitting the back roads, you know what I mean.
Now now I'm getting deeper in the woods, I'm getting

(59:22):
closer to the forest. Q And uh there's a little
cemetery there that's around the bend and it's just before
when you get into forest que and uh, I forget
the name of the cemetery. I can never remember it. Well,

(59:44):
you know, Dald Dtton been there with me. I know,
you know Darred Dtton.

Speaker 1 (59:48):
No, I don't.

Speaker 2 (59:49):
Okay, he's a big you know, bigfoot Doug, you know, researcher,
and he works a lot with around moreheaded and all that,
you know. I mean, I don't know so well, anyway,
I'm going around his ben. I'm doing about I'm doing
twenty five mile hours. As I'm coming around his ben,

(01:00:14):
I see something climbing over this metal fence that Varguo
surrounds the cemetery. And like I said, it's not a
big cemetery. It's a small one, but it's old so
as actually so as it as it's climbing over the fence,

(01:00:34):
I'm thinking, what the hell is that? Right now? Now,
let me back up a little bit. I always believe
there's a big book, because I mean, I have my
encounters when I've seen them. But I never did believe
like a dog man. Never. Every time I heard a
podcast with dog Man, I used to snicker, laugh, you

(01:00:57):
know what I mean, I said, there's no sting as
a dog man, you know that's that's not true. Okay,
So let's go back. So I was climbing over the fence.
I'm looking at it, and I stopped in the middle
of the road and I'm looking at it, and I says,
like to me, you know, me being a truck driver

(01:01:19):
and running out West Montana, I had a whole all
that stuff. I know what a grizzly bear looks like.
Now to me, this thing looked like a grizzly bear.
And I'm thinking, well, he ain't got no grizzly bears
in Jersey. We got black bear, but we got a
grizzly bear. And I'm looking at this thing, I says,
crossing the road like in front of my pickup truck.

(01:01:43):
So I hit my off road lights on and it
went to the next property after like it crossed the
road and answered the other property. As I answered the property,
now I'm I drive towards it and by facing it,
and I'm thinking, what the hell is that? I said,

(01:02:05):
I know that I ain't a grizzly bear. Then it
stood up on two legs. Now, when it stood up
with two legs, that's when my wall stopped right there.
And then right and I was so scared that my
body froze. I couldn't move my arms, I couldn't move

(01:02:25):
my legs, I couldn't move anything. I was dumbfounded. I
was shocked. I was scared. I didn't know what the
hectus was. And then I realized what it was. And
I'm saying in my mind, I'm saying, this can't be it.
These things ain't real. And it's right there twenty yards
in front of my truck. Realist can be looking right

(01:02:49):
at me. Because when it stood up, it turned and
it looked at me, and at that moment, I couldn't move.
My body was fruze, and it was like I was telling,
you know, Daniel the other day, I don't know whether
it hit me with something or what. You know what

(01:03:11):
I mean, but I mean I couldn't move my body.
I mean I was in a lot of fear, and
it looked at me, and I can remember that it
took one step towards my truck, and when it took
one step towards my truck, there was another big loud

(01:03:34):
howl on my left and me in the tree lines,
and when that thing holed the creature in front of me,
took a look over there, took a look at me,
and ran towards the how into the tree line. And
then I it disappeared and I couldn't move. And then

(01:03:56):
after it left, that's when I was able to move.
I could move my arms, I could move my legs,
and I got either and I mean I started headed
to the bay, and I mean I sat there for
a while and I just couldn't I was didn't disbelieve.
I was shocked. I couldn't believe what I saw. And
you know, I mean because like I said all these times,
all this time, I'm saying that there was no such

(01:04:18):
thing as a dog man. And there it was right
in front of me, twenty yards away from me. And
you mean I had my I had my offer of
lights on my truck, and you mean I had this
thing hit like a baseball field, you know what I mean.
I mean I see it clear as day. And and

(01:04:40):
you mean I was on Mysteries Unknown, And I mean
I was telling Joshua this thing was about eight foot
tall and the head of it was like an I
ain't a head now. I mean I heard people say that,
like you, I had like a German shepherd head or
I had like a husky head or like a dumber
on my head. But what I saw they had looked

(01:05:03):
like a husky, I mean, not a husky hyena. And
and like, well you mean it was about eight foot tall.
And what I remember this thing? This thing had ambuyle eyes.
The eyes were yellow. And do you mean I always

(01:05:24):
said too that, like you mean, every time somebody says
something about these things, they always talk about like me
had like dog legs. Well this thing didn't have dog legs.
This thing had legs like humans, Like my legs are
your legs? And and I mean I know that for

(01:05:46):
a fact that you mean I saw the legs. Now,
that grass was high, I'll say about the foot maybe
fifteen inches high. The grass was so I didn't see
the feet, but I know the legs were like human legs.
Like it wasn't bent backwards, not doing me like a dog.

(01:06:09):
And you mean I always said that to everybody that,
like I talked to you about this of your creature.
But and and the hands. I got big hands. I'm
six foot two, I mean, I'm I weigh about two thirty.
But you mean, but I mean I got big hands.

(01:06:31):
But this thing's hands I remember it because I seen it,
like clearly. Its hands was like twice the size of
mind and not you know what I mean, But you
mean that really freaked me out. Like I said, I
always said there was no such thing until that night.
That night, like it made me a believer. And it's
like I told everybody, that thing took one step towards

(01:06:57):
my truck and like I said, I couldn't move any
parts of my body like I was prose. And you know,
I don't know if I was hit with infants. Give me, dude,
what do you call that? Infant structure or infestime? Yeah,
but I always believe and I always said it. I mean,

(01:07:22):
I tell everybody this, If it wasn't for that how
and it running towards that how, this thing would have
snagged me out of my truck and they would have
probably found my truck, but they probably would have never
found me ever again, that night, I knew I was
going to die. I had that feeling. I knew deep

(01:07:46):
down inside I was going to die that night. But
you know, because the other creature made a how, it
ran give me Like I mean, it looked over there
and it looked at me, and it ran back towards
the how I think that was the only thing that

(01:08:08):
saved me because I'm telling you, I couldn't move my body.
I couldn't move any parts of my body, arms, legs, anything.

Speaker 1 (01:08:21):
Yeah that's terrifying. Yeah that was mean.

Speaker 2 (01:08:24):
Like I said, I'm that's a big pots and stuff
was eighty nine. Never had a problem this thing. I
had a problem. I couldn't. I mean, I was so
much fear. I didn't go in the woods until, like
I said, until like last week, you know what I mean,
Like I haven't been, you know, back in the woods.
You know, I wouldn't even dare walk wal mile into

(01:08:45):
the woods after that encounter. And I mean I didn't
even hunt. And I mean I didn't fish for the
twenty twenty forty you know, but you know season, I
mean my bow hunt season. I didn't hunt, like I
mean the year about twenty twenty four.

Speaker 1 (01:09:05):
And what did this creature look like? I know you
mentioned it looked like a grizzly bear. What color was it?
And you also mentioned it it was all black?

Speaker 2 (01:09:14):
I remember the color was all black. But the one
thing too, when I said it had the head of
a haina, it had a mane like a lion, like
from shoulder to shoulder like a dig gold like it
put me around the head. It just went from shoulder

(01:09:37):
to shoulder, and it was like a long maine. But
this thing was built. I mean it was. It was.
I mean this thing was big. It looked like it
was in the gym, like you're pumping waist for twenty
years straight down't stop. This dig was huge. I mean
huge most so wise. I think it could have flipped

(01:09:59):
my pickup truck. My pickup truck weighs five thousand pounds.
And I always told my wife, I said, this day,
we'll put this pickup truck if it wanted to. That's
how big and and like muscular this thing was.

Speaker 1 (01:10:15):
Yeah, that's terrifying. And now that I've spoken with a
lot of credible witnesses, I feel like I've seen the
same thing. I always called it a hell hound, and
that's what I mentioned. This thing had the head of
a hyena, and it had like this main around its
neck like a lion, and it was muscular. What I

(01:10:37):
saw was on all fours. It never got up on
two legs.

Speaker 2 (01:10:40):
But well, this thing walked out of the cemetery and
it walked across the road. It was on all pores.
That's why I was thinking brittly there. But then I'm thinking, wait,
I'm in New Jersey. There's no grizzly bears inside. And

(01:11:01):
then when I walked into the give me the other
property and it stood up, That's when that's when my
world stopped right there, because you know what I mean,
I mean all this, I mean I kind of feel well,
you mean I feel bad, and you mean, I I
apologize to the cryptic world, but you know, I always

(01:11:21):
thought that that dog Man was a joke. You know
what I mean that you know, people were seeing like
but you know, Bigfoot, and they thought that I had
a dog head or something, and you mean, and you mean,
I'm gonna be a man about you. I always apologize
to the cryptic world, but now I know what it is.

Speaker 1 (01:11:43):
I think it's typical for people to be skeptical of
sasquatch and that's the normal reaction. And finally when people
start coming around, they start hearing about dog Man, and
they just immediately write it off and say, you know,
I believe in Bigfoot, the dog Man. This just a
little bit too much.

Speaker 2 (01:12:01):
But yeah, that's how I was. I was. I wasn't
that Do you mean I was there? Man? You mean
like that's how I thought? You know what I mean? Yeah,
I said, I do believe in Bigfoot. I have encounters.
I'm gifts in these things. They're gifting me back, me
and my wife. But when it comes to dog man,
I'm like that that's a little far FETs you know
what I mean? Like, you know, but did that night

(01:12:25):
do you mean the last week in August? I was
twenty twenty four. That may be a believer. I changed
my world around And now you mean it's like I said,
I apologize to the crypto world because I used to
laugh at these things. You know, like you know, but.

Speaker 1 (01:12:45):
Has this encounter caused any trauma in your life?

Speaker 2 (01:12:48):
Oh? Yeah, yeah, oh yeah, I mean, I mean this
creature in me, we have something. It made it personal,
very very personal. Ka and yeah, and I'll tell you

(01:13:10):
about that. I talked to Joshua for Mystery Unknown, and uh,
I talked to Daryl Denton. Me and Daryl Denton. I mean,
we researched this area because we're looking for this thing.
But I'm actually really really looking for it. And uh,
I'll tell you why. After that person counter that I had.

(01:13:33):
I went back there a couple of weeks or two.
A couple of months later, I went back there, like
not to go fishing, not to walk through the woods.
I just wanted to drive, you know, through there. And
and then the second time I seen this thing. It

(01:13:55):
was a second time. It was on the side of
the road. It was on the dirt road, but where
the dirt road connects to the black top. As I'm
driving down this road, like I said, I don't, I
don't go no faster than thirty five mile an hour,
but I mean I was. I was driving slow because

(01:14:16):
I wanted to see it again. I mean, even though
that was the most scariest day of my life, but
I wanted to see it again, or to see if
I can see it again. And I did see it,
and it was standing there, watched me drive up. I
drove by it. It was like four feet away from

(01:14:36):
our passenger door. As I'm driving by it, I made
a U turn. I came back. It was still standing
there looking at me, and like, I mean, I just
took off like a bat out of hell. You know.
So I was on mysteries unknone I'm telling them. I
started to Joshua and to Daniel. And after the podcast,

(01:15:03):
I got a phone call from Dowald Detton. Now you know,
I never I never met Dalad Dtton and he must
got a hold of jobsh and got my number and
he wanted to give me to talk to me about
this creature. And he's from Tennessee but he lives in
New Jersey now, him and his wife. Well, anyway, he

(01:15:29):
wanted me to meet him there at night, and I said,
I'm not going back there at night. I said, you
do what you want, But I said, I go doing
the day, but I'm not going there at night. I said,
you mean, I've seen this thing two times and I
know it's there. I said that now I'm not messing
with it, you know what I mean. And he was like,

(01:15:50):
all right, I understand. He said, how about doing today?
Will you meet me there like good morning hours? And
I said yeah. So me and my wife met him
there and I gave him. I gave him the ordinance.
I mean, you mean, look at the cemetery record that's
where it happened. So I showed him where it came

(01:16:12):
out of the cemetery, where where it walked across the
road in front of me. I showed him the property
where where like it stood up and and you know,
told them my encounters. It's like I'm telling you, and
uh he said that he was there the day before

(01:16:38):
with his wife and he was walking in the woods
that like that I surrounded this you know, little cemetery.
And for what he told me was he said that
there's something here because on the trees I believe he said,
like on the trees about eight foot up, that he's

(01:17:00):
seen claw marks where something was clawing these trees up
all the way down the Uh, I mean all the
way down the line, you know what I mean, like
you mean, and uh he showed me a couple of
trees because I'll walk back into with him, and uh,
I actually seen the claw marks on the trees, you know,
I mean because and then like I mean, we walked

(01:17:20):
around the cemetery and he actually pointed out where he
thinks this thing is coming in and out of the cemetery.
I mean coming out, you mean coming out of the woods,
in and out, because that's like trails coming through there,
you mean like game trails. And it comes up to
the fence and you see, well, Doug me, he believes

(01:17:47):
this is where this creature's coming in and out of
the woods. I mean as it's going to the cemetery,
you know what I mean, Like it's just moving, you know.
So I went my way and he went his way,
and you know, we stayed in touch, texting. He's telling
me so. So then again he asked me again. He said, Yo,

(01:18:13):
you want to go out there at nighttime? I said, nope,
I'm not going back out there at night. I said,
I'm not doing it. So then he said, okay. So
he ended up going there the first night, but you know,
by himself. He stayed there a couple of hours and
he calls me and he says he didn't see anything,

(01:18:33):
all right. So so then so then I told him,
I said, you know, there's a dirt road back there
where I seen it the second time. It's like behind
the cemetery. Maybe if you sit back over there, like
on that dirt road, you might see something. So I
guess the following week he went back there and he

(01:18:56):
was there like a few hours. Now now now he
called me and he said, I don't see anything, but
I hear hows in the distance. But he said, he
don't hear nothing. The only thing he does is he
hears hows like in the distance, back behind the cemetery,

(01:19:21):
back in the woods, back there, and and you know,
he said, there they are like a distance away from me,
but I can hear him loud and clear, you know.
I said, okay. So then so then he said, listen,
I'm going to Tennessee. I'll be back. I'll be back

(01:19:44):
like in a week or two. And when I get back,
i'll call you and i'll let you know. I'll let
you know that i'm back. So we can go back
to the area and walk around and see what we
can and see. I said, all right, no problem, I said,
just let you know. So my wife was, yeah, she

(01:20:10):
had a great idea that she wanted to go back there.
And I think this was I think it was the
day before Daryl was handed back to Jersey. I think, well, anyway,
my wife decides, yo, let's go back there and see

(01:20:31):
what we can see. And I said, no way. I said,
I'm not going back there at night. A said, I'm
not doing it. So she kept on, kept on, kept on,
kept on. So you know, finally I said, all right,
let's go. So what I mean, I packed the truck
with the stuff I needed and She got a camera

(01:20:54):
and stuff because she wanted to take a picture of
this thing, like if it came out, which I thought
was a bad idea, and it was a bad idea.
I showed to stay home and never listened to her.
Well anyway, again, we stop at the wall wall got
her you know, the coffees because I have a thermos

(01:21:15):
and you mean I always like you to pull it
up with the with coffee. And we got our snacks
and stuff and we went down to the area. I
turned down the dirt road and I drove down the
walls and uh, I never turned the truck around. I
parked on the right side of the road, up against

(01:21:38):
the tree line. So my wife didn't want to sit
in the party seeking My truck don't have air condition,
so my wife didn't want to sit on the passenger's side.
It was too close to the tree line for her.
And she was like, you're a little scared. And I said,
all right, you sit on the driver's seat. I'll sit

(01:21:58):
in the passenger receipt you know what I mean, and
see what happens. So we were there about four about
four and a half five hours we were there, didn't
see anything, didn't hear anything. I didn't see a box,
I didn't see a coyo, I didn't see a bird.
I didn't see anything, and we didn't hear anything. Now,

(01:22:23):
that right there was my biggest mistake, because I consider
myself a woodsman, and I should have known when the
woods are quiet, there's something predatory around. I should have
known that, but I wasn't thinking that way, you know
what I mean. That was my biggest mistake. I didn't

(01:22:45):
I didn't listen to mother nature. It was quiet. So
after we were there, I don't know, five hours, I
guess my wife, you know, decided that you know, I
gotta go. I gotta go pee. So I said, listen,
we're twenty minutes away from any store. I says, you've

(01:23:09):
got to go that dad, I said, go behind my truck.
I mean, there's nowhere around. It's dark. The lightst her out,
you know what I mean. So so she did. So. Yeah,
she got out of the driver's side as she walked
towards the back of my truck, and then she went

(01:23:31):
on the passenger's side of the truck. The ruggle between
the tire and my back bumper up against the tree line.
So I'm in the passenger's seat. I'm on the phone,
windows are down, and like I said, I didn't hear anything,

(01:23:54):
you know what I mean. The only thing I heard
was my wife and on the back side of the truck,
you know, doing her business. So I say, by the
time she got out of the driver's seat, intited back
in the truck and she started doing her business. It

(01:24:15):
was like two minutes, like you know, like that because
she had to go, and all of a sudden, I
hear her screaming like all hell get out like she was.
I never heard my wife scream like this before. I mean,
she was screaming a loud screaming and yelling. I jumped out.

(01:24:35):
I jumped out to the passenger's side, opened the door.
I jumped out. As I jumped out, I toocked up
my forty four. That was all my center console. I
looked up and I seen this dog man had my
wife by the arm and he was dragging her down

(01:24:56):
the dirt road. And I shot it four times in
the back. The first two shots like this thing didn't
even flinch or anything. The third shot that's when I
seen it flinch. And when I shot him on the
fourth time, I shot him being just underneath the neckline,

(01:25:19):
under the head, and that's when he let my wife go.
And when and when I shot him in that area,
that's when he let my wife go and he ran
into the woods. And I always said it sounded like
a freight train going through the woods. I mean, I
mean the way that like it hollered, and the way

(01:25:42):
that was going through the woods and breaking branches or
trees or whatever it was breaking, That's what it sounded like.
So I hurried up, grabbed my wife. Wasn't paying attention
to the creature because I wanted to get my wife
up in the truck. I shut the door, I jumped
in the driver's side, and I took off. And what

(01:26:06):
I always said, look like to Daryl and to Josh
for and and you know Daniel, when I shot this
thing four times, all all four shots hit him. But
I've never seen blood. I didn't see a drop of buttert.
You know, when you shoot a deer or a shoot
a bear or something like that, you'll see blood coming out,

(01:26:29):
like you know what I mean that, you know what
I'm saying. I never seen none of that. I never
seen a drop of blood come out this creature. And
I hit it four times. It was like bump bump,
bump bump, you know what I mean, Like you mean
like give me, give me every shot. I could actually
hear the bullet. You may penetrate this thing. But I

(01:26:50):
never seen blood. As I turned around, I looked, I
looked on the ground, and mean I looked at towards
where this thing's going in now. I mean I didn't
stop and look. I just as I turned around, I
kept going. But I'm looking. I didn't see a drop
on the ground. I didn't ste a drop of blood anywhere.

(01:27:12):
So then I thought, yeah, that my wife's arm was broke,
and and uh because her arm was you know, was
black and blue, like from her shoulder down to her elbow.
Her arm was black and blue. That's where that's where

(01:27:34):
this creature grabbed my wife. So I mean I took
her to the hospital. And when you got a hospital,
I mean, what are you going to tell the doctors
and the nurses that a dog man grabbed my wife
and man and you had done this, you know, I
mean they're gonna think that we were drinking or well

(01:27:55):
we want drugs or you know. So you know, the
doctor was looking at her arm he's looking at me,
and I don't know if he's thinking that I beat
my wife or something, you know. I mean, that's the
feeling that I got from him. But you know, they
did X rays on my wife and she didn't have
a broken arm, but she was all bruised up, you know,
black and blue, and like you know, she was sorry

(01:28:16):
for about for about a month. But as they were
doing the X rays on my wife, I was sitting
in the waiting room and I'm thinking about how everything happened,
and then I got angry. Then I got real angry,
and then I'm thinking to myself, I'm going to kill

(01:28:37):
this thing. I said, you know, this thing trying to
hurt my wife or do whatever. But now I was
in a mentality where like it's on, I'm coming after
this thing and I'm going to kill it. Now, I
don't know if I killed it or not. Dald Denton said,

(01:28:58):
I might have, but the way it was wrung into
the woods, I don't think I did, you know what
I'm saying, Because it was running like it it was
running fast. It didn't slow down for nothing, So you
know what I mean. I mean, after that, I don't
know what happened. But but that's what happened, you know.
I mean, you know so, but this thing made it

(01:29:19):
really really personal with me. And uh, look, I mean
the more I think about it, you mean, the more
I talk about it, it's like the more angrier I get.
So you mean, I'm gonna be honest with it. It's
just like I was telling Daniel on the Life Show
the other night. I says, you know, people might get

(01:29:40):
upset with me or or you know, think that you mean,
I'm a bad person. But what they don't understand is
this thing try to hurt my wife. Nobody hurts my wife.
So I go back there often and I'm looking if
I see it. You see, Like every time I think about,

(01:30:05):
like what happened, I always said to myself, I never
should have shot it in the back and all four bullets.
I should have shot it like like in the back
of the head. That was my biggest mistake. Although they're
not paying attention to my to my surroundings and not

(01:30:27):
realizing how quiet the woods was. I mean, you couldn't
even hear a cricket, so you know that right there.
I should have known. But that was one of my
biggest mistakes. I make And like I said, I consider
myself a woodsman and I should have known. But and
then my other second mistake was I should have never

(01:30:49):
shot in the back. It should have been all head shots.
But uh, but my wife she's still having problems with us.
You know, she wakes up in the middle of night screaming, trying,
and you know, but you know, people like sometimes people
like in the crypto world that are friends, you know,

(01:31:10):
they'll message us or or give me their calls asking
how she's doing all that stuff, and you know, but uh, yeah,
my wife she's still messed up over this stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:31:23):
Yeah, I'm really sorry to hear that happen to you guys.
And that's a terrifying situation to know that this creature
has your wife and that you have to shoot at
it knowing that your wife's in close proximity to the creature. Yeah,
it just really makes you wonder if.

Speaker 2 (01:31:41):
Put away from it. I was put away from it
when I shot it with a forty four. Wow, Now,
now you mean a forty four would drop a grizzly
this thing. Thenny, you're like, the first two bullets, then
you flinch. I started flinching like after the third and
then after the fourth shot, that's when they dropped my

(01:32:03):
wife and ran back into the woods. Yeah yeah, that's
uh so now you know me and me, and now
you know we're supposed to be going back in there.
Do you mean I've been back there. I'm gonna be
honest with you. I mean I've been back there because

(01:32:25):
I'm after this thing. I mean, I'm not trying to
sound like a superman. I'm not trying to sound like
a badass. But when I hurt my wife, it made
it personal. And you mean I never felt like this
about no animal. I mean, I bear hunt, deer hunt, shakayas,
you know what I mean. But uh, this thing made

(01:32:48):
it personal.

Speaker 1 (01:32:49):
Why do you think it grabbed your wife?

Speaker 2 (01:32:52):
Well, everybody asked you that question. I think I believe
this thing knows my truck. I got a camel truck
from the back. You remember my truck's camera. I believe
this thing knows me by me seeing it in my heart.

(01:33:16):
I think this thing wanted to mess with me, kind
of like being a bully. And I think because I
asked my wife, I said, when you were pining, like
you didn't hear or see anything like coming at you?
And she said no, like, you know, she was peeing

(01:33:39):
like on the sitting position, and the next thing, you know,
this thing grabbed her botty arm, jerked her and started
dragging her down the road like she didn't even hear
and she didn't even see this thing coming. Damn.

Speaker 1 (01:33:58):
That's terrifying. And I don't blame you for shooting at
the creature. I would have done the same thing. And yeah,
I mean I feel like a headshot would have definitely
been better.

Speaker 2 (01:34:07):
But there was a man at that time when it
is happening. I wasn't thinking. I was just pulling and
pulling the trigger, you know, I mean, you know that
was my second mistake because I believe I would have
shot it behind the head like four times. We would
have had something, you know what I mean. I mean,

(01:34:27):
I mean, like, you know, other than my wife getting hurt,
but you know, we probably would have something, you know
what I mean, like, you know, like like we probably
could have proved to the world, Yeah, these things exist.
I mean, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:34:41):
Yeah, it's a possibility. There was an encounter in Missouri
and Pulaski County. These two hunters ran across a dog
man and they unloaded on it. They said they shot
it so many times, and they heard it crashing through
the woods and they heard it fall. But when they
pursued the creature after they shot at it because they
were sure it was dead, they said they didn't find

(01:35:02):
any blood. They didn't find the creature and they just
can't believe that they didn't find anything after shooting it
so many times and they heard it fall several times, and.

Speaker 2 (01:35:13):
It is seeing no blood like anywhere, no, and there
is this is this is see, this is what I'm
starting to think, Like you mean when I just heard
this right now with no blood coming with it zoos too,
I mean, are these things even fresh and blood?

Speaker 1 (01:35:31):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:35:31):
I mean, dude, I saw this saying five like if
you're five feet away from me four times with a
forty four and not a drop of blood.

Speaker 1 (01:35:41):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:35:43):
I you know what I'm saying now, I'm starting to
think this thing even fresh and blood or what the
hell is this thing? I mean?

Speaker 1 (01:35:52):
You know, the Native Americans say that they're both they're
physical creatures and supernatural. So the supernatural part really mean
we know they're out there. They're definitely physically out there.
But there's something else to it. There was also another
report Missouri of these two bigfoot researchers looking for sasquatch
and the ozarks, and they were watching a juvenile sasquatch.

(01:36:14):
They had been following this creature for a few weeks,
possibly a few months, and they split up and one
of the researchers ran back and he said, I saw
a creature that resembled a werewolf. The other researcher wrote
him off and said there's no such thing. But he
also got the firearms ready. He said, take this. So

(01:36:35):
later on they heard the little juvenile run out of
the woods like something was chasing it, and they both
saw the dog man. They shot it several times. And
that's freaky. I think that story was on Mysteries Unknown
with Joshua and man, that's a terrifying thing.

Speaker 2 (01:36:51):
Yeah, yeah, but yeah, he's always see Joshua. Oh, you know,
we talk and text on the phone often, and he's
always asking how my wife is doing and all that stuff,
and and uh, like you know, we stay in touch,

(01:37:11):
and you know, he's always praying for us and everything,
and so we doubt that and and uh, you know,
Daniel and other people that's that's in the community, you know.
But uh yeah, this thing made it personal. I mean,
you know, it's like I don't know, it seems every
time I think about it, I get more angrier and

(01:37:35):
angry because I mean, I love my wife, you know
what I'm saying, Like me, like, if I have to
jump in the ocean after a great white to save
my wife, I would do it. That's how much I
love my wife, you know what I'm saying. You know,
And uh like this thing just made it personal, you know,
I mean, and it's just like, I mean, this is

(01:37:56):
the wildest thing that ever happened. Like now I want
to I'll tell you I never other than that day
when I was looking up to the trailer, I never
had a bad experience with Bigfoot. Never even with my
three guys, like you mean, I'll call them my three guys,

(01:38:16):
you know what I mean. But I never had a
bad encounter with the bigfoot.

Speaker 1 (01:38:28):
Yeah, it sounds like the dog man or hostile. And
that was going to be one of my next questions, Like,
did you guys ever have nightmares after that?

Speaker 2 (01:38:38):
Often?

Speaker 1 (01:38:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:38:39):
My wife, my wife who works up two three in
the morning, and you know, she gets up you're screaming
and crying and U like, again, we both no cigarettes.
But like at nighttime, it was like nine ten o'clock
at night, my wife won't get out of the house,

(01:39:05):
you know, to sit on the porch, you know, I
mean to have coffee or or to have a cigarette
or less I'm out there with her. Yeah, would not
get it, do.

Speaker 1 (01:39:16):
You guys house?

Speaker 2 (01:39:19):
Huh?

Speaker 1 (01:39:19):
Do you guys live in a forested area?

Speaker 2 (01:39:22):
I live in a neighborhood like a normal neighborhood. But
if you drive one two miles or should not even
really not even if you drive a mile away from
the house, like like you can hit forest and farmland.

Speaker 1 (01:39:37):
Yeah, well, that's good that you live at least a
couple of miles away from forest and farmland, because once
these creatures get your scent, they can find you anywhere.
So just remember that when you guys are out there
in the woods at night.

Speaker 2 (01:39:50):
Yeah, but it's just like you mean, like I said,
you know, like my wife, ye know, she'll wake up
and she'll be screaming me out of the sleep, you know,
two or three in the morning, and uh, and you
know it's just you know, she's still having a bad Yeah,

(01:40:12):
that's what makes me more anger and anger. See my
wife's that she's still like you're suffering from this, you
know what I mean. And it's like Dad said that,
you know, she got your PSTD whatever that thing is called,
you know, I mean your PTSD or I mean so,

(01:40:32):
but yeah, she and she will not leave the house
at night unless I'm outside with her. Like if it's
eight nine o'clock at night and she wants to go
smoking cigarette, we'll smoke in the house. I have to
go out there. So so let's say. Yeah, I mean,
if I'm sleeping and it's eleven o'clock at night and

(01:40:54):
she wants to have a cup of coffee, and like,
you'll sit on the porch. Even though we live in neighborhood,
she wakes me up and I got to go out
there with her all the time every day. Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:41:09):
Yeah, I don't blame her. I mean that would be
a natural reaction for anyone who's ran into these creatures,
especially someone who's been grabbed by one of them and
almost taken. It almost makes you wonder if some of
the missing people is necessarily related to Bigfoot, but possibly
dog Man, especially with the Land between the Lakes story yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:41:28):
Yeah, well, I mean yeah, like Daral Danton there goes
over the land between the lakes here with his friends
himself and they do research out there. They encountered a
dog man over there down the land between the lakes. Man,
you mean they do research over there, and me personally,

(01:41:50):
I mean, this is how I look at it, you mean,
as a hunter, and like I said, I consider myself
a woodsman. If you got four people walking the trail, okay,
and let's say, you know, let's just say a cougar
jumps out of the woods and takes the fourth person, Well,

(01:42:13):
that cougar is going to make noise when it jumps
on you. You're going to make noise. You know, people
are going to hear this that's in front of you
and they're going to turn around, or or a bear
or you know what I mean. I walked up on
rattlesteaks and my wife jumps back, Oh, it's the rattle sneak,

(01:42:34):
you know what I mean. So I don't believe. I mean,
it could happen, because you know, probably happened before. But
I don't believe a lot of these, you know, four
one one was by you know, regular wild animals like
bears and cougars. When these people disappear, you don't hear anything.

(01:42:58):
The thing is, people be walking and you know they'll
turn around and give me the friends are gone, and
they ain't hear nothing. So I'm sorry, I don't believe
you mean, like I mean, how people say, oh could
have been a cougar, Oh could have been a bear,
or could have been a wolf or whatever. You know
what I mean, if it was, you would have heard it,

(01:43:21):
like you know what I'm saying. I mean, you know,
you can hear something coming. But when these people go
missing and they're like let's say four that are hiking
down this trail and nobody hears nothing, Well what took them?
That didn't make any noise?

Speaker 1 (01:43:40):
M yeah, that's very good.

Speaker 2 (01:43:43):
Like I said, you know, you know what I mean.
I'm in the woods all the time. You mean, I
I know when I can hear a kyo, I could
hear a fox coming, you know what I mean. I
could hear a deer coming or whatever. But you know,

(01:44:05):
how can you not hear something taking somebody off of
a trail that's like two feet every three feet behind you?
You know what I'm trying to say that don't make
no sense to me.

Speaker 1 (01:44:15):
Yeah, I agree. And the researcher that went out to
the area where you had these encounters that you mentioned,
he found these tree markers, like these scratch marks on
the trees. I've found similar. I've found them two different
times in one of my bigfoot research areas where I've
had experiences, and it looks like these giant claws going

(01:44:35):
down these pine trees, and I've documented at two different times.
I often wondered if that was possibly the Sasquatch or
is there a dog man in the area. What are
your thoughts?

Speaker 2 (01:44:46):
I always felt about that too, because you mean like
these three now, not that I received them, you know,
like like you know up close, like I'll as like
I said, you mean that. I mean I've seen him
like fifty sixty yards away all the time when I
do see him, But I don't think they have claws.

(01:45:07):
I think they got regular hands and nails like you
and me. Now, the dog man that I've I've been
having these accounts with, I know he's got claws. I've
seen him up close. It's like I said, his hands
are like human hands, but they do got claws.

Speaker 1 (01:45:27):
So yeah, that's what I've heard from everyone who's encountered
a dog man that they have these long, scary looking claws,
huge hands.

Speaker 2 (01:45:37):
Yeah. Yeah. Now, now, now as far as big Foot goes,
I've never seen claws on a bigfoot. I mean you mean,
like I mean, like I said, the three that I've
been like engaging with, you know, you know for the
past couple of years, I've never seen claws on them
or anything like that. Or I've never seen any like

(01:45:59):
any claw marks on trees either. Yeah, so you know,
but the dog man, I know, I know he has clauses.
I see him up up and close in personal.

Speaker 1 (01:46:11):
Yeah, absolutely, I think that would make more sense. Do
you believe Bigfoot and dog man are related or from
two different worlds entirely?

Speaker 2 (01:46:21):
I think I think that two different creatures. I don't
believe that from what I seen. I mean from my
encounters and form what I seen, I don't think they
have They're not like related in any way. I don't
believe they are. Yeah, and I mean that's my opinion opinion. Yeah,

(01:46:44):
do you think that?

Speaker 1 (01:46:45):
Why do you think the Pine barren seems to attract
so much activity? Could the cemetery be a portal or
possibly a hot spot?

Speaker 2 (01:46:53):
I don't know. G I mean, everybody talks about, you know,
with these dogment encounters. It's always you really around the cemetery. Yeah, yeah.
As far as the Pine Barrens, I don't know if
you ever been in there, like you mean, like in

(01:47:14):
your travels, but the Pine Barrens my opinion, my feelings,
and I've been there. I've been going in there since
I was like fifteen, sixteen years old, and you mean
I'm fifty four right now. I've been all over the
Pine Bearns, the Pine Barrens. Like during the day, it's

(01:47:37):
a beautiful place, like you mean, the water is clear,
the trees are beautiful, you mean the plants. I mean,
you mean it's a beautiful place during the day, but
it seems like when the sun goes down. I mean
my feelings that this is a very it's a very

(01:48:00):
evil place. I mean, like the Pine Barrens, I mean there.
I had heard of your stories from people telling me this,
like you know back in the day, you know, when
the mob used to on the live people, they used

(01:48:23):
to bury him back there, and then you got the
story of the Jersey Devil, which I'm not going to
ever say that. I don't believe in the Jersey Devil
because I used to say the same thing about a
dog man. So I learned my lesson about saying there's
no such saying. But in my view to deal with

(01:48:48):
the Jersey Devil, I think that these people saw a
bigfoot or they could have seen a dog man back
in the day day. That's what everybody been seeing all
these years, because I don't think a creature's going to
live over one hundred years old, you know what I mean.

(01:49:10):
So whatever it is, it's got to have a partner,
and it's got to you know, be able to make babies,
you know, for these people to see these things all
the way back from the eighteen hundreds all the way
till now. Yeah, so what I'm saying, yeah, so you
know that's how That's how I'm thinking about that. But

(01:49:32):
the Pine Burns, it could be, uh. I mean, they
there was a hunter. If you look it up on YouTube.
I forget, I forget the child's name, but you know,
look up on YouTube it's a missing hunter. And then

(01:49:52):
looking up with Pine Burns there's a hunter that went
missing back there and they never found his body. They
found his truck, but they never on the hunter and
he's from Mace Landing, New Jersey. I believe I've.

Speaker 1 (01:50:06):
Heard so many cryptid encounters and paranormal experiences in the
Pine Barrens. It's mind boggling. And it could be because
it's a huge forest, there's spring water there and a
lot of animals there for them to eat. But also
on a supernatural side, it could be that the land
is cursed. There could be giants buried underneath there. There

(01:50:28):
could have been witch trials, there could be a cult
activity in the area. It's hard to say, it's hard
to pinpoint what's going on, but something, well.

Speaker 2 (01:50:35):
There's a lot of satanic stuff that goes in there
because a lot of times, like you mean, not recently,
but but like in the pass, you know, we used
to go through there and we used to see like
a lot of satanic stuff in there, Like you mean
that that embling don't talking about you and that against

(01:50:57):
satanic embling what they call it the uh yeah, yeah,
and uh you know that they were doing satanic stuff
in there, you know what I mean. But then I
heard heard from stories from people that I know, you know,
know personally, but you know they seen ghosts over there.

(01:51:19):
Do you mean there's one guy that that he told
me that, well, you know, him and his wife was
camping out there one night and they swore to saw
they saw like a flying saucer that was going over
over the trees. You know, I mean real close to
the trees, but you mean just you know, barely like

(01:51:40):
above the trees and uh men. And like me still
to today, him and his wife they swear about that,
you know what I mean. I never seen nothing like that,
but you mean they have. But that pine barrens, I mean,
I mean you hear a lot going in there. I mean,
you know, like like give me sitting on your camp

(01:52:03):
chair over a fire, and all of a sudden you're
here a weird noise that you never heard before, Like
whether it's a growl or a howl, or a tree
brand break or I mean I heard one time I
actually heard a tree fall. Now I don't know if

(01:52:25):
that was digfoot, I don't know because I didn't see it,
but I heard it. And you know how when a
tree makes a thump sound when it hits the ground.
I heard that, you know, but you mean could have
been a dead tree. I don't know, you know what
I mean, But like every time you go in there,
at least with me, I always hear something. We're back

(01:52:47):
in the pine barrens always, always, always always, you know
what I mean? Now, when I go into pine barons,
I don't go theren there by myself, I believe me.
If you don't know the ever very well, you can
get lost really easy backet a palm brand, You can
get turned around. I mean, you know that's a that's

(01:53:10):
a place where I mean even I got lost in there,
you know what I mean. And you mean I've been
going into since I was fifteen years old, like I said,
And you know, sometimes I get turned around and I'm
with other people, you know what I mean. So that's
how that's how dense, and you mean that's how dark
that place can be. You know.

Speaker 1 (01:53:33):
Yeah, absolutely that's just a spooky area. And oh yeah,
you got to be careful going Yeah, just be careful
going back there. I know you want to hunt this
thing down, you want revenge on the thing, and you
hold a lot of resentment against it. But also remember
that they can sneak up on you and you won't
even know it. So next time maybe they'll be more careful.

(01:53:55):
But also you got to be more prepared because it
sounds like you're on their hit list.

Speaker 2 (01:53:59):
And that's that's how I feel. I mean, I think
this thing knows my truck knows me, and it wants
to bully me, you know what I mean. And what
he did was when he grabbed my wife. And when
that happened, it split second. You know, it just made
a personal between me and it. You know what I'm saying,

(01:54:21):
And you know it is what it is. I mean,
I know people are going to say doing negative stuff
about that about you know, I should want to kill
it or you know, blah blah blah, But it made
a personal I mean, when you mess with my wife,
you mess with my world. And that's it, bro, you
know what I mean. I'm not you know. Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:54:42):
And did the creature make a vocalization when you shot it?

Speaker 2 (01:54:45):
Or was it just oh yeah? Yet the first two
shots that didn't make him move, uh, I was, it
didn't punch and it didn't make a sound. The first
shot it made a sound, but the a fourth shot,
that's when it screamed like a freight train. And you

(01:55:06):
mean you mean dropped my wife's arm. I mean, I
let her go and it went into the woods. I mean,
it was screaming all the way into the woods to
me like a train, and it was crashing through the
woods me just just like a train would. I mean,
if you take a train blowing the horn and going

(01:55:26):
through the woods off the track, that's what That's what
it sounded like. So you mean at that second, right there,
that moment, I wasn't paying attention to it. I mean
I could hear it, but I wasn't paying attention to
it because I wanted to get my wife in the truck.
You know what I mean. My first agenda was getting
my wife in the truck. Man. You mean making sure

(01:55:48):
she was okay. So that was my only agenda at
that time. And then when me and then when me,
I was in the hospital and you mean they had
her in the next ray your room, and you mean,
I'm sitting there, I'm thinking, That's when I'm That's when
I started getting angry. And then I got angry on

(01:56:09):
myself because, like I said, I should have known better
because I ain't hear anything in the woods, and me
being a woodsman, I should have known something in the
woods if you don't hear nothing and everything's quiet. And
then the third thing was I was saying to myself,
you know, sitting in the waiting room, I should have
shot him in the back of the head. All four

(01:56:31):
shots I should have landed in the back of the head. Yeah,
you know, I mean that's you know, that's my you know,
that's my I mean, like you, sometimes I won't even
have to be thinking about it. I'm having a cup
of coffee, I'm sitting on the porch and that pop
of my head. I should have shot in the back
of the head. Yeah, it's just weird. I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:56:54):
You know, my friend that I do bigfoot research with,
he has a tourist judge and he's specifically bought silver
bullets in case he runs into a dog man. Sounds
a little bit out there, but you just never know.

Speaker 2 (01:57:08):
Do what to the bullets?

Speaker 1 (01:57:09):
Then he bought silver bullets. They're may specifically for dog men.

Speaker 2 (01:57:15):
Yeah, yeah, well, you know what, that's not funny. A
lot of people told me to do that, you know
what I mean. There's a couple researchers that have contacted
me and they said, you know, this might south far
fetch or might sound Hollywood, but you should have some
silver bullets on you. I'm thinking, why, I mean, you know.

(01:57:36):
I mean you you know what I'm saying. I mean,
you know, but yeah, I thought the first time I
heard that.

Speaker 1 (01:57:42):
Yeah, And man, I just don't blame you. I think
you did the right thing. And I don't think any
of the listeners will say, how dare you shoot that thing?
I mean, it was trying to kill your wife, so
I would have done the same thing.

Speaker 2 (01:57:57):
Yeah, but yeah, it's just like to be honest with you.
You mean, I mean, I'm going to tell you, just
like I tell my other friends that are researchers and
you know, podcasts. As far as I feel right now,
it's not over between me and in it, you know

(01:58:18):
what I mean, something's going. If it's still alive. I
don't know if it's still like is. I haven't looked
for it. I don't know now thinks I might have
killed it. I don't know, because the way it ran
into the woods, I don't know. But if it's still
alive and I'm still alive, it's not over between me

(01:58:43):
and it. And I'm not trying to sound like a
badass or nothing like that. I'm just being serious. It's
not over, you know what I mean, It's not over.

Speaker 1 (01:58:51):
Yeah, my intuition tells me that you are going to
have another encounter with one of these creatures, and you
just have to be as prepared as possible.

Speaker 2 (01:59:00):
Man. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm prepared to trust me to
believe me.

Speaker 1 (01:59:05):
Yeah, you being out there will lure this creature out.
Well excuse me, I said you just being out there
will possibly lure this creature out because it sounds like
they're attracted.

Speaker 2 (01:59:17):
You only things what I always think, like like you
know how when you bake beer, when you bait bear,
I think all I have to do is pull up

(01:59:37):
in my truck and use me for bait. That's all
I'm thinking.

Speaker 1 (01:59:42):
Yeah, and I think that's why the researcher kept wanting
you to go out at nighttime, because he knew if
you were there something would possibly happen.

Speaker 2 (01:59:50):
Yeah, yeah, that's what I think. It's it. You know,
me and Dowd. You know, we're good friends, you know
what I mean. I call him brother here, he calls
me brother. We always stayed in touch, yeah, I mean,
but sometimes at the beginning, I'm thinking, well, maybe he
wanted to use me for me, you know what I mean.
I don't know, but yeah, that's what that's what I'm thinking.
I said to mean, like I'm thinking, if it's still there,

(02:00:13):
if it's still alive. I just used my truck and
I used me as bait. That's it. If it's there.
I know it will come out. I know it will it.
Just I had that feeling in my heart, you know

(02:00:34):
what I'm saying, And I give me that, give me
that feeling.

Speaker 1 (02:00:38):
Yeah, I feel that way too. I told you off
air that I've heard a dog man out in the
woods and it sounded like a Hollywood werewolf call, followed
up by a woman screaming, kind of like you mentioned,
like the freight train sound, and it was such a
horrifying sound that it couldn't have been any other animal
out there in the forest.

Speaker 2 (02:00:57):
Like got to raise every hair on your body.

Speaker 1 (02:01:00):
Yeah, you hear these stories about Bigfoot coming out and
the dog will cower down. That's what a dog man
vocalization will do. It will just stop you in your tracks.
You'll cover both ears with your hands and just cower down.
I mean that's what I did. I heard it from
inside my house. I had the window open, and it's
right there in the woodline, And I mean, this thing,

(02:01:21):
how's so loud? That it sounded like somebody blasted a
werewolf call through a PA system. It was that loud
and then it's screamed after it how like a.

Speaker 2 (02:01:33):
Yeah, people, people who have never never seen or heard
a dog man will never like, they will never realize
how loud and how this thing like you mean, when
they scream, it goes right through your body. You know,
there's just something that goes like you know what I mean,
and every hair on your body will stand up, you

(02:01:55):
know what I'm saying. I mean, you know it's it's
it's crazy. I mean, you know, yeah, and I don't
and you know, I don't wish nobody ever see a
dog man, you know what I mean. I don't wish that.
I think. I think a dog man is very evil.

(02:02:15):
I think, like I know that's going to sound weird,
and you probably never heard this, but I believe, like
sometimes I sit back and think about it, I think
a dog man it's so evil that sometimes I say

(02:02:36):
to myself, it could be a pet of Satan's pet,
but you and me will have a lab for a dog.
I think these are his pets. That's what I'm thinking.
This is not evil.

Speaker 1 (02:02:53):
Thing is Yeah, I agree, I feel the same way.
And Satan is a counterfeit. So you have God, then
you have Satan, you have Jesus, you have the anti Christ,
you have the Holy Spirit, you have evil spirits. And
I feel like since God created the animals in the
animal Kingdom, he would have his own types of animals

(02:03:13):
in his own creation, like a counterfeit version.

Speaker 2 (02:03:18):
Yeah, yeah, that's how you mean. That's how I think
of the dog man. I think it's that evil. Yeah,
I mean I've seen it up close, and I see
the eyes. Not give me the bigfoots. I never seen
evil in their eyes like that. This thing here, when
it looks at you, you know what's looking at you.

(02:03:39):
It's I mean, it's the most evil thing that you
possibly can look at.

Speaker 1 (02:03:45):
You can tell they're super intelligent too when they look
at You've heard that from a lot of people.

Speaker 2 (02:03:49):
Yes, oh they are. It's like, I know, I know
this particular creature. I mean, I didn't see the other
one that hold, but you know this particular creature, I
know it knows my truck and it knows me. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:04:06):
And I interviewed Matt from Youngstown, Ohio. I don't know
if you ever heard that dog man encounter. But he
said the same thing that I had, these yellow amber
looking eyes, and you described the exact same way.

Speaker 2 (02:04:19):
Yeah. Yeah, but you Alma just pull up with drivers
during not walking away so you don't hear the car town.
But yeah, I mean these things are I mean, I
I know they come from the bottom pit of hell. Yeah,
I mean, I mean that's how I mean I feel
about it. That's how I think when you look at it,

(02:04:41):
you're close up, that's what it is.

Speaker 1 (02:04:44):
Yeah, absolutely, And swamp dog. What would you say to
the listeners out there that are very skeptical and they're saying,
maybe there's bigfoot, but there ain't no such thing as
dog man this guy's line. What would you have to
say to them?

Speaker 2 (02:04:59):
Well, I pray and hope that they never ever see one. Yeah,
Or maybe that's why I can.

Speaker 1 (02:05:07):
Say, yeah, maybe that's what it's going to take for
them to believe.

Speaker 2 (02:05:11):
Yeah, I mean, and they do see one, I hope
and pray that they make it out okay, because these things,
these things are evil. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:05:24):
Was the cemetery a newer cemetery or wasn't an old
one that isn't used anymore.

Speaker 2 (02:05:29):
As an old cemetery. I've seen stones in there from
the early eighteen hundreds. Okay, no, just walk the cemetery
with dow and and like you mean, we've seen stones
as far as like the early eighteen hundreds and stuff,
you know, I mean.

Speaker 1 (02:05:46):
Yeah, it makes you wonder though. I mean, my only
physical explanation would have been maybe they just buried a
body there, and these things can smell way lower than
six feet or however far they bury bodies to keep crit.

Speaker 2 (02:06:00):
Well, we worked out there, like you know, we didn't
see we didn't see uh, you know, we didn't see
much of like I mean new new burial sites, you
know what I'm saying, Like, you know, there wasn't no
new burial sites. I think the oldest one was like

(02:06:24):
out of nineteen ninety nine, ninety eight something like that.
So you mean I don't know.

Speaker 1 (02:06:27):
Yeah, yeah, Well then I'm leaning more towards the supernatural
than there's just something evil about all this.

Speaker 2 (02:06:35):
Yeah yeah, yeah, Well.

Speaker 1 (02:06:38):
I feel like you did an excellent job and describing
these experiences, and I felt like I was right there
with you and I could envision everything that you encountered.
And yeah, I mean I feel the same way like
the sasquatch you can deal with them. You interacted with them,
you were leaving them food and items, and the dog
man that that just it feels.

Speaker 2 (02:07:00):
You can't you can't do nothing with a dog man.
Just we're on a shoot. I thought that you could
do with that. Yeah, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (02:07:07):
One last question, Why do you think the Sasquatch were
leaving items on your car?

Speaker 2 (02:07:14):
I think because we were gifting them. And you know,
I believe that, you know, they got to know me
and my wife because we were always in and out
of there and we were always gifting them. And I
you know, I said to today, I think I built
a relationship with them. But you mean like a friendly relationship,

(02:07:37):
you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, you know, but
you know that's how I feel about that.

Speaker 1 (02:07:43):
I also feel like they were letting you know that
they watched you go into the area and they knew
that they.

Speaker 2 (02:07:49):
Were in there. Yeah. Well yeah, like I said, I mean,
I feel comfortable walking to my stands or to my
blind I allud feel safe, you know what I mean.
It's I mean, I feel like I'm at peace, you
know what I mean? Yeah, that's you know what I'm saying.
I mean, but not not with a dog mate. That's

(02:08:09):
a totally different Uh, that's a totally different situation right there.
And like I said, I do believe they come from
the pit of Hell, you know what I mean. That's
that's my opinion, you know what I mean. Like, for
what I've seen and for what I've been dealing with,
they're the most evil thing on the face of the earth. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:08:30):
Now, I feel like I've seen one before and yeah,
I gave you the description and it was similar to yours.
It looked like a hyena. This thing was on all fours,
but it had a maine around its neck and it
was just bulky, like huge, Like.

Speaker 2 (02:08:45):
Yeah, this thing was like twice the size of Oor
Swarzenegger when he was in the best of his days.
This thing was big.

Speaker 1 (02:08:54):
This thing was I always described it like a lion.
You see lions on TV and you're like, wow, they're
a big but until you see one in the zoo,
You're like, wow, I didn't know that.

Speaker 2 (02:09:04):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we got a little zoo here in Brisity, Jersey.
And you mean they got the dingle tires, you I
mean the tigers and you mean I was like going
to them and uh, you mean the size of them. Man,
You mean, I just could imagine being in Middle Africa
and confront one of these things, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (02:09:26):
Do you think that dog man creature produced some sort
of infrasound when you froze and you weren't able to move?
What are your thoughts about?

Speaker 2 (02:09:33):
I think it did because I couldn't move and a
part of my body if I wanted to. I tried
to move my arms and I couldn't move my arms
and my legs because I wanted to get away and
I couldn't. The only time I the only time I
was able to move was when it disappeared in the

(02:09:55):
tree line, after that howl happened, I mean, when the
second one held. That's when that's when it ran away,
and then I was able to I was able to move,
you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (02:10:09):
Yeah? And what did the house sound like? Was it
like the werewolf? How like?

Speaker 2 (02:10:14):
Yeah? It was it was like you hear on TV,
you know what I mean, when a werewolf makes it?
How but just times out by ten? Yeah? You know
what I mean.

Speaker 1 (02:10:28):
I think we heard the same thing.

Speaker 2 (02:10:30):
Yeah, So you know that's uh, that's that's the only
way how I could explain it. You know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (02:10:37):
So, yeah, I've encountered bigfoot multiple times, and I do
Bigfoot research out in the woods. I'll camp out there.
But what scares me the most is thinking about that werewolf,
how that dog man that I heard when I was
a kid. For some reason, that scares me more than
the sightings. I don't know why.

Speaker 2 (02:10:56):
Yeah, yeah, it just it's like you hear but you
don't know where that you know what I'm saying that.
I think that's the most scariest part is when you
hear it but you don't see it, you know what
I mean. I need to hear it and you see it, Okay,
then you know what to do. But when you hear
it and you don't see it, that's a totally different

(02:11:18):
because you don't know where to walk. Go left, go right,
go for go back, you know what I mean. You
know That's how I look at that.

Speaker 1 (02:11:27):
Literally, Satan's secret agents. I mean, I don't know what
they are, Like you said, they're straight from the depths
of Hell.

Speaker 2 (02:11:33):
Yeah, yeah, that's what that's my belief. I believe that
a pensil Satan, I really do, you know what I mean? Like,
you know, people might laugh at that but I really
do believe that they're a pensil Satan because this is
the most evil thing I ever encountered in my life.

Speaker 1 (02:11:51):
Yeah, it's definitely not good. It's definitely not holy.

Speaker 2 (02:11:55):
Now, Oh there's nothing holy about this thing. No, yeah,
I at this.

Speaker 1 (02:12:03):
I hope you never see this thing again. I know
you want revenge, but I just hope you never run
into it.

Speaker 2 (02:12:09):
Yeah again. But I you know, I don't know see
what happens.

Speaker 1 (02:12:16):
Yeah, if you do contact me, and I want to
hear what unfolds, and it'll give me more of an
idea of what's kind of happened in my life and
what's happening to other people that are targeted by these
cryptid creatures. And I feel like people are looking for answers.
So it would definitely be beneficial if something else happens
and you contact me. Even if you find out something

(02:12:38):
that blows your mind that you feel like you can't
talk about, you can still call me and talk about it,
even if it doesn't go on the show.

Speaker 2 (02:12:44):
Okay, Okay, yeah, Diig. I will just be careful, you know.
I mean, like I said, these things, these things like
if you're not prepared, like you know, what I'm talking about.
Just be careful, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (02:12:56):
Oh yeah, I'm buying a tactical forty five seventy. Sure
we get down talking today.

Speaker 2 (02:13:02):
Yeah yeah, well I mean I got one of them too,
so but uh yeah, but yeah, yeah yeah, just be careful.
I mean if you see, like I feel like, if
you have encountered one, I think they remember you. I
don't know that you mean by looking or by smiling.

(02:13:24):
I think I think they do remember you. You know
what I'm saying that you're just something that mean that.

Speaker 1 (02:13:29):
I think, yeah, absolutely, I mean once they catch your
scent that's brained in their memory, and if they're hunting you,
that they will find you.

Speaker 2 (02:13:39):
Yeah. I mean I even heard stories of this thing,
like you're following people like you, I mean following to
their houses, give me to their homes, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 1 (02:13:49):
Yeah, and they also get in your dreams. And it
sounds like that's possibly what's happening to your wife.

Speaker 2 (02:13:54):
Oh yeah, anything like I said, my wife, my wife
she's yeah, I mean, she's not going to get this
is why I'm so angry, because my wife is not
doing to give with this. I mean, you know, she'll
wake up maybe four times out of seven a week
by well, you know, screaming, you know what I mean,

(02:14:14):
Like in her dreams. I mean, she have nightmares of
this thing and and I mean, I'm telling you, I
s the son goes down, like she don't need the house.
Oh that's I go outside with her, you know what
I mean. So it's you know, that's that's what's been
going on with us.

Speaker 1 (02:14:30):
So yeah, well I hope she don't know what.

Speaker 2 (02:14:35):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (02:14:35):
I feel like you'll never find peace with the situation
like that, Like you're always gonna wake up with nightmares
screaming that this thing's got me. And I just don't
feel like you can find peace in a situation like that.

Speaker 2 (02:14:46):
No, I don't think you could. I don't think you can.
You mean, because you mean, I'm thinking, let's just say,
even even if I killed this thing, she's still going
to have nightmares, like you know what I mean, like
not going to end, you know what I mean, Like
you know, yeah, I mean, I'll have my revenge if

(02:15:06):
I survived, But like she's always going to have these
nightmareess I believe, you know what I mean. So I
asked her to go to the doctors. About it, you know,
talk to somebody. But you know she doesn't want to
do that. So but I can't blame her, because how
can you say, hey, this is why i'm having night marriage,
you know what I mean? You can You can't just
talk to anybody about.

Speaker 1 (02:15:27):
This, right, and it'll just make the situation worse. Yeah,
just remember if you do kill one, there's more around
in the area, so just be careful.

Speaker 2 (02:15:37):
Oh yeah, I know. It's like I say, I heard
the how, but but I didn't. I didn't see the
other creature, you know what I mean. But you mean
I did hear the second hel and I always said
that's the only thing that saved me. I believe that night,
you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (02:15:53):
So yeah, I agree. All right, swamp Dog. You did
an excellent job at describing these experieneances, and I'm very
grateful that you shared them here in my channel. And
it's definitely going to spook me whenever I'm out there
camping in the woods at nighttime, I'm going to be
thinking about your encounters and shaking in my boots.

Speaker 2 (02:16:10):
Man. Yeah, just so just watch your back, bros. I
mean that dog Man's not a dog bro. I'm serious,
big foot, you can handle a dog man. Yeah, yeah,
that's totally something different.

Speaker 1 (02:16:21):
I'm always on high alert even if I hear a
squirrel moving through the woods like I never just ride
it off. And like you said earlier, like bears and
mountain lions, they can sneak up on you, but so
can these things.

Speaker 2 (02:16:34):
Oh yeah, yep. So all right, brother, I will talk
to you later than.

Speaker 1 (02:16:40):
All right, thank you, and you and your wife will
be in my prayers, my friend.

Speaker 2 (02:16:44):
All right, thank you, brother, thank you, yeah, thank you
you take care, all right, thank you you too.

Speaker 1 (02:16:49):
Bright all right, swamp dog, I appreciate you for sharing
your bigfoot encounters and experiences with me, and the dog
man encounters were truly chilling to the bone. I agree
with you about the statement you made regarding these creatures

(02:17:10):
being straight from the pits of Hell, and they certainly
do seem to be evil. The fact that it tried
to grab your wife is truly chilling, and I can't
imagine how you felt in that moment. And I don't
think anyone's going to ridicule you for shooting at this
thing as it tried to take your wife. And I
do believe this is an answer to the missing people reports. Obviously,

(02:17:34):
not every missing person is due to ENCRYPTID, but some
of the strange unsolved mysteries and the times where they
find people's bodies mangled in a strange manner, I believe
this could possibly be the case. And it does sound
like you are on their hit list. They are a
super predator and once they catch your scent, they will

(02:17:56):
find you in the forest. I wonder why you Why
are they targeting you. You seem to think it's because
of your Camo truck and they're able to identify that
when they see it, which it possibly could be. But
there's definitely some resentment towards you and these dogmen creatures
going both ways, and I hope for your safety that

(02:18:17):
you never run into these things again. But if you do,
make sure it's a headshot and don't stop until the
creature goes down, and just remember that there are more
than just one, and they run in packs. The dogmen
will mark trees similar to grizzly bears, and they are
just marking their territory, and they have a vast territory.

(02:18:38):
But I hope for anyone's sake that they never run
into one of these things, because just hearing them is
truly terrifying. Thank you everyone for listening and I appreciate
all the viewers. And if you have a dog man
or bigfoot encounter that you would like to share with
me here on Sasquatch Theory, please get in touch with
me at Sasquatch Theory at outlook dot com. Until the

(02:19:01):
next cryptan encounter, you guys be safe out in the forest.

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