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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Welcome back to Sasquatch Theory. On this episode, we sit
down with Rick from Saint Louis, who shares an incredible
and chilling series of encounters from witnessing a group of
UFOs hovering over the cattle fields of Frederick Town, Missouri.
The UFOs were encountered off of Highway sixty seven, and
Rick claims the UFOs were coming from the Silver Mines
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Recreation area. Rick has also had terrifying experiences with Ouiji
boards and other strange phenomena at his cabin. Rick's story
ties together UFOs, the paranormal, and possible Bigfoot activity in
one of Missouri's most mysterious hotspots. This is a story
of fear, survival and secrets kept for decades. You don't
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want to miss it. At the end of the video,
I will share some of the photos that Rick sent
over to me so you guys can check it out
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With all that being said, let's dive into Rick's encounters
and experiences here on Sasquatch Theory. All right, Rick, welcome
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to Sasquatch Theory. How are you doing today?
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Oh? Pretty good? So far good. It's about yourself.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
I'm doing excellent. It's a pleasure to have you on
the show. Rick. If you would tell me a little
bit about yourself, where you're from, and your experiences from
the very beginning. Please.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Well, I'm from originally from Saint Louis, well, most of
my life there, and then after the kids moved out,
me and the wife moved out and got farther out
in the country. But we bought a piece of property
along the way, and we've had it for about twenty
one or two years because we're a hunting fisher people
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and we loved it. We got a cabin down there
we've been working on for twenty years and about seventy
three acres and we love that. But we just spent
our weekends out there. But now we're both retired, we're
spending more time landing there, and so we've had some
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strange things happened there. But what I'd like to talk about.
First office in about nineteen ninety or ninety one, my brother,
my son, and myself were in Fredericktown visiting our parents,
which are now deceased, both of them. We were leaving
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that night and it was dark and I suppose it
probably winter time. I had to get my son back
so we'd go to school next morning. So we try
to get and we both had to work, me and
my brother, and so we were trying to get back
a little early. But we got on sixty seven Highway
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sixty seven right at the Fredericktown exit or entrance to
the highway where the walmart is now right next to
the walmart, But the walmart wasn't there then. It was
on the other side of town. So it was real
dark back there, about the big gas stations or anything there.
And we started driving up Highway sixty seven and we
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looked off where it's now Black River Electrics.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Out there.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Back then it was a farm field with cows, and
I don't remember that much about it. I remember I
always was cows out there. But we were driving along
there up the highway towards Pilot Knob or knob Lick,
towards Trum Farmington, and we looked off the sides of
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the left field is and we saw probably six seven
what I called ali a saucers, and they were hovering
over the cattle field. And they're kind of almost as
sol as what as sun's going down and you're touching
them hovering. They weren't flying fast, they were just hovering
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across that field. We're talking, we're going little slow. There's
nobody on the highway late that night. You know, back
then there was was anybody in the highway hardly at all,
and until they built the Walmer and everything. And we
were driving up and I looked over and saw one
on the right side of the road headed north, there
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was a flying saucer hovering over the side of the road.
So I pulled out and I'm pulling over. I told
my brother and I and I pulled over and me
and him got out. I told my son, I stay
in there. I was scorried tost me beam you up,
you know, and take my son. So I told my brother,
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let's get out and see what's happening there. So we
got out and we walked underneath, which wasn't far from us,
and stood underneath of it, and I'm guessing maybe three
to three hundred feet four hundred feet possibly. It was
real close. You could see everything about it, and it
looked just like the fans also see in the movies.
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And it was shaped just like that. It looked like
it was some kind of a mubbles and it had
lights all around, colored lights, different colors all the way
around or the saucer, but it had different color lights.
Almost looked like there were windows or something that I
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would say there were lights more than anything else. And
it just hardd there and just say it right over
us and didn't make any noise whatsoever, and didn't have
any wind, and it just we stayed different probably five
to ten minutes underneath it. And so I started getting scared.
We were to get out of here. It started getting freaky,
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and so we got in the car and drove on
off and we didn't see anything after death. But that
was my Finance officered story, and it's a smooth dad's truth.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Yeah, that's incredible. I believe you. And I've been on
that highway many times going to my bigfoot research areas,
and there's a lot of bigfoot activity in Fredericktown, Missouri,
and I've often wondered if there's a connection with the
cryptive creatures and these flying saucers. I think it's weird
that there was so much bigfoot activity there, and also
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the people reporting UFOs. I've heard that there's somewhere deep
out in the market, somewhere deep out in the Mark
Twain people were seeing UFOs coming out of like an
underground base and people claim that they've seen it. So man,
that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Yes, that was totally And these saucers that were hovering
over that field were coming from what I would say,
silver mine.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Yeah absolutely, I've heard bigfoot reports that. Wow, So they
were coming from that area from silver mines. The u
foe that you saw, did it seem like it was
coming from that that area.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Is that what you're It seemed like they were coming
from that direction, wow, slowly slowly going over to the cattle field.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Yeah. I wonder if these things eat beef because I've
I've heard a lot of UFO reports where they like
take cows up into the ships elk deer, and you know,
it makes you wonder because you saw this thing hovering
or these things hovering above a cattle field exactly.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Yeah, I got that same feeling. Seemly nowadays it should
go for furrow hogs. They probably get a lot more.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Yeah. Absolutely, the the UFO that you saw hovering above
the highway close to you, did it move from the
cattle fields towards you or did it just appear there?
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Just the ones that were on this kettlefield were moving.
The one that we stood underneath just sat there just
right above our heads. You know, it's maybe three hundred
feet or so.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Yeah, And how big is that? How big do you
think it was? Was it like the size of a Volkswagen,
the size of like a huge airplane.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Probably outsides of a home swimming pool something like that,
maybe twice that day above ground pool The round ones
are like twenty eight feet rude. I'd say maybe twice
that well, I had a pull at that time, and
that's how I thought it out.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Yeah, And with the lights that you saw, did it
seem like you were able to see like more detail
off the craft?
Speaker 2 (09:42):
I could see that it shined and looked like mubble,
and I could see the lights on it very clearly.
And I mean that's about all. I just we just
sat and stared at it. I mean my brother were
just like, can you believe in it? And we're both talking. Well,
years later, we talked to my family no by, and
we didn't tell the police or anything that night because
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we got to be home and I was embarrassed. You know,
there ain't nobody going to believe me if I told
him this. So we went on home. And then years later,
at a Christmas party where our family was scattered, me
and my brother go, we're going to tell everybody something,
and we made an announcement and said, we just want
to tell you this before we die, you know, And
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we told them the story at the Christmas party and
like nobody believed us. I could just go the way
they were rolling our eyes and stuff, but whatever, I
wanted to get it out before we died. Later on,
my brother got staged fourth answer just two years ago,
and we sat and told another grow about that experience.
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If he wanted to make sure that we told somebody
in our family. So we told him again and we
anhow we prayed for my brother, had all the churches praying,
firement and everything, and I'm telling it was America. He
came back back and I couldn't find cancer and him
he's he's weak now he's like seventy eight years old,
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but he's weak, but he's still alive. Two years later
when they said he was gonna die stage four cancer.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Yeah, I'm sorry to hear that. And I got a
family member going through the same thing. Do you feel
like the encounter with this craft maybe caused cancer due
to the radiation that is exposed you have these types
of encounters.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Well, I didn't think. I didn't ever if I dwelt that,
you know, I had, I had prop say cancer not
long actually well, I mean probably twenty some years later,
but I don't think anything do with fun.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Yeah, that was actually going to be one of the
questions that I asked, Did you guys get sick experience
cancer after this encounter? And before I could even ask,
you mentioned it. I don't know if it's connected to it,
because exposure to so many things can cause it, such
as like cell phones and technology, g foods and chemicals.
I mean that's hard to say.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Right, Yeah, yeah, I never thought of it as being
the cause of cancer.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Yeah, if they're coming from another planet or traveling through
space or even underground, there's a lot of radiation exposure there,
and a lot of people claim getting cancer after they
have an encounter with the craft like this. The craft
that you described, it reminds me of the fair ride,
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the zero gravity rideer. I think they call it the
graviton kind of like you know, like at the county fairs,
like you it's a ride there, Yeah, and it spins
around when you get in it, you can't move because
of the gravity exactly.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
We were doing it's over Dollars City just recently and
we rolled up one of the roller coasters. I can't
think of the name of it. How we worled it
it like to tore my DUTs off man, I mean,
I was like, suck to us of the day because
of the gravity thing, you know, no grothrit he's done. Yeah,
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I know, what you're talking about.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Yeah, And what color were the lights on the craft?
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Different colors? Multi colors? And me and my brother both
agreed on that one that people were asking us a
question of the Christmas party we're doing. They were multi
colored bikes and the craft was sober color and it
looked just like a flying sauces around folks encounters, you know,
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the small ones.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Yeah, well, I believe you. Did you notice any missing time?
Do you think you guys are abducted when that happened,
and maybe they brought you back and you can't remember it.
Have you recalled any strange experiences like later on in life?
Speaker 2 (13:56):
I do not, because I knew all the time it was.
I had to get home by like nine or so
to get my son to bud So to go to
school the next day, and so I don't really remember
anything like that.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Yeah, and your son saw it as well. Said that again,
your son saw the craft as well.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
He saw from inside the car. He saw the ones
hovering over the field, the cowfield. He saw those, and
he could only see from the car what he could
looked up from inside the car. Because I wanted to
let him out. That's a pretty big card to take him,
you know.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Yeah, absolutely, I'd be worried about that as you.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
But he remembers it. Though he remembers it. We saw
something that's the wayte when he asked, he's forty four
years old, forty five, forty forty three.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Now, yeah, So you guys are all firm believers of UFOs, right.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Well, I I've always been interested in them all my life,
but I never but I'm also Christian, so I want
to go along with what the Bible say. It's at least,
you know, the best I can.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
And what do you think they are?
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Someone the ones I read about some of them seeming
totally demonic, you know. And then I've heard creatures like
Jack Vanempty used to say they're vehicles for angels, the
preacher Jack Vane Empty vehicles for angels. And I don't
know if I I don't think I believe that, I
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wouldn't think angels will need a vehicle, you know, right.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Well, it kind of reminds you of like Ezekiel and
when he's describing the flying craft or God coming down
on his throne with the chair.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Of of angels, does it remind me of that?
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Yeah? Well, I'm saying it reminds me of that, But
I don't know if that's described in a UFO or
just God's presence in general.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Yeah, I don't know if I totally understand your question.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Oh no, I was just saying it. You know, like
the Bible describes encounters like this, and it's hard to
say if they're talking about UFOs or something different. But also,
there's so many planets out there in the universe that
the Bible doesn't list them all and right, the universe
is just so vast, so who's to say that there's
not life on other planets.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
But yeah, I don't know. I know about ez cool
and the flying wheels and stuff like that, and then
I just don't have any rule argument for any of
the things. I just don't. I don't know. I just
cer't leave that alone. You know, it's God's deal.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Yeah, absolutely. And what else have you experienced throughout your life?
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Well, I'll tell you a lot. One of my first
ones was I was a little boy, about five or
six years old. I grew up in Saint Louis, North
Saint Louis, and we were very pretty much core neighborhood
and most of the people there played poverty Lobal, and
we lived in a trailer court. We lived in the
house in front of the trailer court, but the trailer
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court used our basement with archers and dryers, and they
had bathrooms down there too. Somebody the old trailer they
didn't have bathrooms. They'd come down there and go on
our basement and they had outside door. I was down
there with my mom one day. I was probably five
or six or seven, and I had toys down there,
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so when she'd be doing the wash and stuff, I
could play on the floor with the toys. I was
playing over in one carner by myself, and she was
over in the other corner in the basement doing her wash.
And I looked over and this all mobile car, one
of my favorites, was setting over by itself, and it
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doesn't have any it's old old time. I mean these cars.
This is nineteen sixty I'm talking about. And it was
all done in this car, and so it was just
a mobile cell didn't have no engine, and it no nothing,
no Gladdy batteries. And it drove from the side of
the bath basement all the way over to me in
a half circle and drove over to me, and the
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headlights came all along the way and shined and there
was no headlights that shined. There was painted headlights and
it lit up like headlights on a car and drove
over to me and sat in front of me. I
tried to tell my mom. She didn't not believe it,
you know. Sure, So I've never been the only person
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believe was my wife. Know, So whatever is what I said,
that was I was about what I said five or sixteen.
I'm seventy now. I was buying at fifty five, so
I was pretty young. Yeah, so that's what. Then I
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got about eleven or twelve or something, we had a
Thanksgiving party at our house, get together my brothers and all.
I had three brothers and they bring their families and everything,
and they brought a Wigi board. I'm like, I didn't
know what they were, and they were told them so
we can ask the questions or they answer questions for
you know this. So we played the Wiji board at
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the Thanksgiving dinner afterwards, and when they were all leaving,
they go, well, I go, what are you gonna do
with the board? We'll put up in your claws and
we can use it again whenever we come over. So
they put up in my clothes, and I was always
fascinated with all kinds of stuff like that. So when
everybody was gone, I didn't think it was bad. So
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I got it out and I started playing the wiki
board by myself, and then plants and everything and move
for me. I'm probably do it for anybody. I hope not.
I don't want anybody to use it. This is a
warning to you out there. That thing started moving itself
and telling me and talking to me through the wiki board.
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And then a few years after that, well, I used
it for a couple of years. Probably. I got in
a book club that was Psychic Phenomena book club. But
I didn't know what psychic phenomenal was. And it's like
came out of a Scout book. I was a boy
Cub Scout and it came out of there. I mailed
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it and they sent them and brown these books. It's
psych a Phenomenon book club. They sent you the books
and brown papers, so I guess so your parents wouldn't
see it. But I didn't know why they did it.
And so I got into a book club. I mobied bonds.
I had my own knowing lawnmowing business, so I had
my own money to buy stuff. I was probably eleven
and twelve by then, and my first book I got
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was like Astrology, and that wasn't too bad. It didn't
see I read something of it. I wasn't really interested
in it. Then the next one I got was something
like maybe white magic, and that was pretty cool. And
then the next one I got was more heavier stuff,
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you know, like black magic. And they were just working
their way up seducing me. Like the Bible, so was
the seduction. And then the last book I got came
and it had the goat Hud on the front of
it and it said Satan, and it freaked me out.
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And at the same time, I'm using that, I'm making
magic lawns and I'm doing the Ouiji board. You know,
I'm only eleven, twelve thirteen. We moved from there when
I was fourteen, so I head to be within that
range and I started I seen little pritters around my
bed and I called my mom, told her come in.
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She'd think I had a fever or something. She'd give
me a baby ask for and sit with me till
I fall asleep. And it's like she didn't get it.
You know, nobody got it because I was living in it,
you know. But anyhow, that's my experiences with that. So
there's my warning. Don't I over pick up a Luigi
board for nothing, and every time we see one that
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a state sale or a yard sale, we buy it
and bring it home and tear it up so nobody
can get it. They are evil, pure, pure evil man,
straight line the whole.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Yeah, I completely agree with that. Do you feel like
this caused the UFO to appear to you later on
in life? Like maybe it opened up a doorway from
another dimension?
Speaker 2 (22:55):
It well could have, And I've thought that many times.
You know. I seen the movie The Exercist. I got.
I came to Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior
when I was eighteen, and that was nineteen seventy three,
and that my brother had got tickets for The Exorcist,
the movie, and we were going to go out as
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my girlfriend at the time and then him and his wife,
and we wanted to see The Exorcists. That movie scared
me so bad because I just come to the Lord
and all of a sudden I get hit with this major,
major demonic feeling. And I mean I was probably two
years before I got over watched the exist that scared
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me so bad. It's like I just opened up more
portals or the portal wider or something. And then but
then I started and then due to years, I started
getting closer to the Lord, reading the Bible, studying, and
I went to Bible College and it was going to
be a preacher. And I just did all these different
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things to strengthen my spirit and soul and I didn't.
I started not having those problems anymore. You know that
it went away. But I had power of God and
it wasn't nothing else. It wasn't nothing I did. And
they still touched her of me today. But then recently
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now we got into those pictures that I sent you
that was just shared our cabin. About fifteen years ago,
somebody broke into our cabin and stole our our cameras,
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our Turl cameras. We had the old film Turl cameras
and they weren't very good. You couldn't card see anything
on them. We just want to see what the deer
looked like down there, because we were newed for that part.
And they stole our cameras. I guess they got their
picture taken on them probably and they had to steal it,
but they broke into our cabin and stole them one
to just jump because we didn't leave anything did down
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there in case somebody would break in. But anyhow, we
went and got a new cameray. We didn't put any
up until about two years ago. We put new ones up,
the new digital panty ones that take about the pictures.
And that's the ones I sent you for pictures of
pictures of pictures actually, And so when we first saw those,
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my wife going on. We brought them home and she
went and put the chips in our computer at home,
and we looked at these pictures and we saw those
big beams of light coming down and and I'm like,
that is not right. My wife can run and she
goes look at this and I'm like, man, is just
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very strange. And then you're seeing the other picture. It
looks like almost like a little flying saucer in the
one of them. You know what's a I'm talking about. Yeah,
it's a ovo object kind of rough well that wasn't No,
it's got rough idges, but it has a design to it.
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It's like what would that be it It looks like
a drone or something like that, but where we're at
it's not a drone trees over there that all kinds
of trees are in the woods. Uh, that's probably overnight.
We weren't there when that picture was taken. Well, you
saw what it looks like. It's just kind of spooky looking.
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And then we had the other light being shooting different
angles and one of them shows light Dunding didn't. I
don't know that one.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Yeah I did, and they're definitely strange. You can clearly
see what it is. And I've seen similar on other
paranormal shows or on explained mystery shows, and I don't
know what it is. They've talked about it being like,
I don't know, possibly like UFO crafts or strange entities.
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What do you think it is?
Speaker 2 (27:01):
I don't know. When I first saw the two beams,
we thought it was some kind of Once we thought
it over and came home and kept looking at it all.
We're trying to figure something out. We thought it goes
up out of the range of the picture the camera.
You know, is it coming down or is there beams
going up? You know?
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Yeah? Absolutely they are strange. And this is in the
Mark Twain National Forest. Is that correct?
Speaker 2 (27:30):
It's close to it's not actually, I don't think it's
actually in the forest.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
Yeah, there's a lot of strange things happening in the
in the Madison County area, and there's just so many
mysteries there, whether it's dog Man, Bigfoot, UFOs, and strange
entities being seen all the time.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. We stayed down there a lot, Like
especially deer season, we stayed on there, and we stayed
down there more now because we both retired and we
take our dog out. We don't take her out and
go a potty during the night. She's a two all. Also,
we got lot she's got a little bitty bladder, and
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it's kind of spooky going out to night. But I
have I've listened to watch a lot of your shows,
and I see what a lot of the people say,
don't bother them. They that they won't bother you. Most
of them seem to just take out the night at
to day. Don't bother them. They don't bother you, you know,
And that's kind of what I feel about our price.
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We get a little spooked once we saw those lights.
It's like, what is this? We never have seen them
one were there? You hear some snorting outside of one
on the windows one night. It's kind of squaky, but
that could have been. We have faral hawks down there
and we've had them come on our property. And another
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time we were in the woods down there walking around
trying out a new gun. So we went out and
we were just walking the woods, pedaling around. We wanted
to try the snoop gun we just got fixed, and
we heard some growling down in the woods. It's the
way down the valley, and we got we had one
shell left in the shotgun that we were getting fixed,
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and let's get out of here. And it sounded like
something growling down there. Well. And then yes, we were
there to let me see Wednesday last week and we
were pulled down and my wife heard something. She goes,
it's something I could deer over there. So she kind
of guys cry as we could. She walked over to
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our pond, which is not very good, and I didn't
see anything. She does sounding like a deer just ran off,
and you know, maybe it did. So we went in
and did some work we had to do, and we
came out and looked at the I looked went over
to the pond. She was still in so and it
was there's turkey feathers floating on the pond and underneath
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the water and looking yet and that was something. Mistick
grabbed the turkey there, and I go and got her
and brought her to something grabbed the turkey before I
got her, though, I got a back stuff here. I
went down to look at the feathers and I saw
the feathers, and I wasn't sure if they were turkey.
I thought they were. I followed the trail of feathers
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behind this big boat or on their property, and something went, oh,
like a big rock, limb of a tree, big limb
of a tree, or you know, somebody's gotting salt, you know, firewood,
and they threw out a big piece. I didn't see
anything next to me. I didn't see anything in the
TiO in front of me. That was just one big
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boom right next to my foot. I have no idea
what it was. I got her. We walked down the
woods and we found more feathers. I didn't see anything.
It wasn't a front there or something boom would have
made up front. And it's almost like the boom kind
of scare me away because that was his dinner or something,
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you know, whatever. I don't know what it was, but
freaking me out. My wife was once she heard the boom.
She was inside the cabin with the windows shut. I
think the windows were shut, maybe it was open, but an, Yeah,
she heard the big boom. She thought a log fell outside,
a good sized log, but I thought it was a
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big rock. That is what I felt like to me.
And I mean like a foot across rock. You know.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
Yeah, that could have been a big foot activity and.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Perhaps yeah, and you know, I hear you guys always
talking about going her opposite people and stuff like that.
I would not thought of that, but it made me
look and see the ants fronts. It made me look
for something, you know, which I mighta not have done before.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
Yeah. Absolutely, And like I said before, those things are
out there. And Frederick Town also has a lot of
missing people reports and a lot of strange ones as well.
So I wonder if it's connected with the UFOs or
the cryptid creatures. But you definitely have to be careful
when you're out there all alone hunting in the woods,
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camping and you just never know what could happen.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Yeah, do you what do you think they are?
Speaker 1 (32:28):
I have many theories. I mean when it comes to
Bigfoot or UFOs, the Sasquatch, they could be an ancient
primate species, hominid, something from the days of the Nephilum
and the giants, or some type of interdimensional creature that's
coming here from another planet. There's a lot of theories
that I'm open to, but it's hard to say. Since
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I'm a Christian, I kind of believe that it's something
to do with the days of the Nephilum before or
during know Is time. And that's kind of what I'm
thinking because there's a lot of ancient civilizations out there
that just don't have an explanation. Science can't explain it,
and it's just hard to reproduce even with today's technology.
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So it does seem like there were technological beings here
on this planet, and we see that all the time
depicted with these ancient civilizations. So that's what I'm thinking.
It's something before the flood, and I don't think anyone
else has a better explanation.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
And then Genesis sixth chapter are we're talking about it,
So then there were giants in the land then, and
there were giants in the land afterwards. And I still
believe those at enough one survived the flood, possibly because
of their spiritual nature.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
Also, yeah, absolutely, that's what I'm thinking. And during the
end times, it's supposed to be like the days of Noah,
and that's kind of what we're seeing with all the
UFO's crypto creatures and unexplained phenomenon.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Yeah, exactly exactly. We're seeing those things come back again.
M hmm if they ever were gone. Maybe maybe it's
because we have more equipment and stuff that'sudium now or
but I think it's because it's closer to the end
of time and the Evil ones very mad that he's
lost us, lost the game, the Double, and he's doing
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everything he can do build stuff out to get people, yeah,
away from him, away from the Lord. He thinks he's
going to win the battle, but he knows he ain't.
He's he knows the end of the books.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
Yeah, it's gonna seem like he's winning until Jesus comes back.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Yeah, so let me see where worry now. We went
down to him and unts last last week. I think
I told you on the phone. We went down the
Imminence and I went to a Have you ever been
to the Angelino Conservation Area? I think it's called Angeline
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or Angelino.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
I'm not sure, but I've been to Eminence. I've been
to Sinking.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Creek, Seeking Creek. If the order sunken, the sunken thing
is minds.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
I'm not. I went there years ago and it's just huge,
huge woods. I went there with an old girlfriend that
I had in her family and we went camping out
of creek and it was a beautiful area. That's all
I remember.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
Yeah, Okay, we went to this place called the Sunken
It's an old cave. It's caved down and they called
the sunk Lines. I think it is sunk Lanes. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
I think it's's biggest conservation area.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Really, that's good. We drove a long ways so we
couldn't find it. There's no signs of us. They just
tell you kind of where it is. GPS was working
right something. We couldn't figure it out. So anyhow, we
sat found one house and we stopped there to asked
restructions and he told us. But it seemed like a
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long way away. But we tried it and we went
down to try to get there, and we had four
wheel drive. We needed four worl drive. It was a
rough road and At a certain point, we got kind
of creeped out down there, and me and my wife
were looking at each other and just started getting kind
of like every something's watching us type feeling. You know.
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We were no longer looking at the beauty of the ozarks.
We were looking at what is looking at us, you know.
And so she's like, you know, I think we were
turn around and get out of here. So I think
I agree with you. So we turned around left. It's like,
just you know, something stole only get out of here.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
Absolutely, it's called Angeline. I think mh. You already said
that it was one of the big ones. So anyhow,
we're going to continue going on there and then staying
at our cabin again. It's like we don't want to
be afraid to be down there, you know.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
Yeah, I completely understand.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
I used to be just be afraid of you know,
bad people and maybe bearers and stuff like that. But
I'm not even that afraid of bears. You know, they
don't but these other things are maybe bigger than bears.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
Oh yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
Yeah. It doesn't seem like they are trying to get
us out of there. It's almost like I had the
feeling if there is something there. It's kind of like
letting us stay because maybe the next people might be worse,
you know, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
Mm hmmm, Yeah, I completely understand that. And it almost
reminds me of like paranormal activity, like if you've you've
experienced that in your life, like where you hear things
thumthing in the house, or things shuffling around, or just
the presence of something. With bigfoot activity, it's like you
hear something in the woods, like something's charging at you
and it just stops, or you hear this loud thump
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or a knock and you go and look and there's
nothing there. It almost makes me feel like, I don't know,
like there's spirits in the woods or it's something ancient
and I don't know. That's just my take on It's
it's just strange.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
And we only got our take, so I mean, basically,
but we got good takes. So because we're trying to
put the Bible in there with it, I believe that's
the main link to what's happened.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
Yeah. Absolutely, I had a strange experience at my friend's
house in Fredericktown and the Mark Twain National Forest and
we were out there looking for Bigfoot. I talk about
the stories all the time, but we were sitting out
there behind his house waiting for sasquatch to show up,
because every now and then they would show up in
his backyard in the woodline. And we were doing that
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for months, just waiting for them. And I looked over
at my friend Bill. I was like, I got to
tell you something. I've been experiencing a lot of UFO
activity at my house and it's just weird. He's like really,
I said, yeah, And I kid you not. We look
up into the night sky and we see hundreds and
hundreds of lights and it was just the strangest thing.
(39:32):
It was definitely not starlink like it was. I think
it was UFOs. It seemed like they were coming out
of nowhere, moving through the sky, and then going back
into nowhere, like they just appear out of nowhere and
just disappear. It almost looked like they were coming out
of a hole and then going into another hole in
the sky.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
It was just strange though, because as soon as I
started talking about it, it showed up.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
I don't know, well, that was long. Yeah, I've been
down there all my life. My family came from that area,
but I always lived in Saint Lois, but always at
family trips down there, and I was always looking for
stuff as a kid, and I walked down the roads
by myself and everything scary ones and nothing ever happened.
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I never told anything about it.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
It's a spooky area though. There's a ton of forest,
a lot of pine trees, and when you drive through
Fredericktown there's just granite everywhere, pink granite all over the place,
and a lot of waterways. And then they say, like
the UFOs cryptodactivity or missing people, there's always like granite,
moving water and pine trees.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
Yeah, that's what these things about. These lights and are
on my property. It's like it's right over our pond.
The ponds as big as a sort of rouncail. Well,
you think we couldn't get it as big as we
wanted to because the boulder was in the bottom of it.
When the guy was digging in, he said, if I
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take the boat around, it's gonna leak. So we just
let him leave it and we just have a wildlife
pond instead of what we wanted. But that's where these
lights are. It's over the pond, you know. It's made
me think, and it's like a mountain top. There is
there like underground, something underneath this, underneath this, this lives
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under there, like the Free Crew flyings. As you know,
aliens from another dimension, whatever they're from, are they under there?
Is this light coming up from there going up? Is
it coming from the sky going down? You know you
can't see the top and the bottom of it those
in those photographs. And when it bent light on one
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of the pictures, it shows the beam coming through and
it ends. You know, I always thought you couldn't. It
was one of like the rules laws, you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
Yeah, they're definitely strange. And you did a good job
at capturing the strange activity on the trail cameras. I
was really impressed. And it does it makes you wonder
if there's something going on underneath the ground. And then
like in the sky above they say as above, so below,
and I feel like that's true. And I definitely feel
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like there's a giant underground base underneath Frederick Town and
many other areas of Missouri, and I feel like that's
the reason why there's so much activity happening. And it
reminds me of like Skinwalker Ranch and on that show
they'd say, for some reason, when we start digging, things
start happening.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
Yeah and yeah, and like just what I saw was
probably six or seven over that field and then the
one we stood under. That's that's such your selling them
right there, you know that we could see. Yeah, there's
no tone on the internet and uh oh and it
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was Simon, you know, that's just freaking to know that. Yeah,
I'm and back. Did you hear it's something that was
nineteen forty six that there was a uifull thing like
out on Roswell right down by Cape Gerardo If you
heard that.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
Yeah, I've heard of the UFO that crashed in Cape Girardo.
And there's other another one that crashed in Saint James, Missouri.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
Yeah. I just heard about that one not too long ago,
and it was almost like the similar thing as Roswell,
except a couple of years before it.
Speaker 1 (43:49):
Yeah, and right here, Yeah, Cape Girardo is not that
far away. Another place is in Piedmont at Clearwater Lake.
There were a ton of UFO reports and people were
saying that the UFOs were coming out of the lake
and I think on one one occasion, over five hundred
people called the police department saying that they witnessed the
UFO coming out of Clearwater Lake.
Speaker 2 (44:12):
Right. We this is back in the seventies, so it
was about seventy one or so. I gathered a group
of friends and you know, girlfriend's boyfriends. We all hop
in the car. I now, let's go see the flying's officers.
And I didn't get off work. I worked at a
shell station and I didn't get off work till like
ten o'clock. I had to lock up the building stuff.
And we saw all like ten from Saint Louis to
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go to Piedmont see what we could see. And that
was probably nineteen seventy around that area time. We didn't
see nothing. My brother, oldest brother went down and he
says he did, but he's done now, say can't ask
him anymore. But I didn't see anything. We drove all
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over Piedmont area in my car and stopped different places
and tried to see what we see. We went all
the way up to the lake up by the dam,
and uh, I didn't see anything done. But you know,
but there was reports everywhere. It was on the radio
all the time, along with Momo Missouri Monster was on
(45:17):
the radio all the time during the Yorba sevmies, I
would look. I would look. I would look for one
of my way to work in the mornings. Because of
the radio station, I was having momos things where you
could call in if you mobile sightings to have you
call in, you know, let you know where you saw
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them at it was. It was all over the place
in Saint Charles, and so these things been around for
a long time, and I kind of moved through that
the momo. Then you're not quite that old, do I
don't think.
Speaker 1 (45:53):
Yeah. I was born in the nineties, so when you
had your ufhone counter, I was just a little baby.
Speaker 2 (46:01):
Yeah, but yeah stood under that the saucer. You might
not about alive yet.
Speaker 1 (46:06):
Yeah, And you're right about the moment. And these things
aren't just in the Mark Twain or in the Ozarks.
They're all over the place in Missouri, Illinois and all
over North America. It's definitely strange. And there's not just
one hot spot or a certain area where you can
see Bigfoot, but there's just many different areas that are
(46:27):
like Skinwalker Ranch. Do you think that it's possible this
activity may have something to do with like the occult.
My friend Adam who lives near that area, he has
his own channel and he's seen a lot of things
as far as like red eyes and his family. They've
seen cryptid creatures and just strange things they can't explain.
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They said in Fredericktown, late at night in the Mark
Twain forest, there'd be people out there with like candles
and I'm not sure if they're wearing robes, but I
think I remember him saying they were wearing like black robes.
But they'd go out there and do like I don't know,
witchcraft stuff for occult gathering. And it's kind of strange
because I've heard that from multiple people.
Speaker 2 (47:08):
When I was a kid, we would go we had
a family room in out of silver Mines, and I
was probably eight or ten, I guess, but we had
them through the year, so I'm not sure what ur was,
but they would talk about I had little heartspin would
come writing through. They told us that one night we
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had our party out there and get the family get together,
and it got real dark and everybody was going to
leave and we had to go. Only had to drive
from silver Mines to Foger Down, But I was scared
enough when we get out there because everybody had been talking,
well had the sortsman's seen out here all the time.
So I don't know. I'm just telling you what I heard.
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So I never did see it.
Speaker 1 (47:52):
Yeah, that's a possibility. You just never know. And a
lot of the folklore has truth to it as far
as what people have seen at one point in their life.
And yes, silverminds, that's a strange area, and people have
seen the red eyes down there. It's definitely a spooky area,
especially at nighttime. I wouldn't want to be caught there
at night.
Speaker 2 (48:13):
Yeah. And my grandfather who lived in Trouburton, he was
a parttner and he built houses for people and stuff.
Threw out the blueprints everything. He would find water for
the houses by divining divining rounds. You heard of those, No,
I haven't. They're like a giant wishbone. You did get
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them in out of any tree. Just it's almost like
a fork comes up straight and goes off almost like
a y. At the top. You hold the two ends
of it, and then the straight part you put like
a pointer, and you hold the two parts the two sides,
and as you walk, when you get towarders water, it
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will pull down on you, just like a wigi board.
My grandpa used to use that, and a lot of
the people down in the country I would hear about
they're divining today. You know, they got to go out
and they're building new how they're going to go divining,
look for water. My grandfather took us on the back
when I was probably ten something like that and showed
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us it's boys, they go. Dad show us how to
use the divining run. And he showed us how to
use the divining roun in the backyard in Fredericks And
I never did do it. I my mom said, don't
do that. What does not good. My mom's a Christian lad,
don't do that. It was her dad's bad. So I
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never must with it. But that's what I'm just telling
me what he told us to show us. And if
anybody's out there listening to us, don't use the divining
route either. It's next to a wigi board. It's it
will pull you because they're a spirit trying to lie
to you.
Speaker 1 (50:01):
So yeah, absolutely. Have you ever heard of The Slocum
Hollow Legacy by Michael helm.
Speaker 2 (50:10):
What was the name of it?
Speaker 1 (50:11):
The book is called The Slocum Hollow legacy. I did
a video on it and an interview with the last
surviving family member. Yeah. It was a family from Fredericktown
and they were experiencing bigfoot activity in the earlier nineteen
hundreds and yeah, they claimed these things would have come
up to their house through the chicken coop and there
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were several sightings. I made a video on it, though,
so I'll send you a link to it so you
can check it out.
Speaker 2 (50:43):
Yeah, okay, it'll be cool.
Speaker 1 (50:46):
I do not know all of that, Yeah, absolutely, and
it's definitely strange. And where all that happened to that
family was where I was doing bigfoot research. Remember when
I said I looked up and saw all the UFOs
when I was telling my friend about it. That's right
right down the road from that.
Speaker 2 (51:06):
Wow, you seeing the UFOs there?
Speaker 1 (51:08):
Yeah, I've seen the UFOs in Fredericktown when I was.
Speaker 2 (51:13):
Okay, go ahead, Yeah, it.
Speaker 1 (51:15):
Was that story I was telling you when we were
out there doing bigfoot research in the Mark Twain National
Forest and I told my friend that I've been seeing
UFOs and Crawford County north of there, and then we
looked up and there they all were.
Speaker 2 (51:28):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (51:29):
Well, yeah, that's definitely strange. Is there anything else you
can think of, any other strange experiences, any questions that
you have for me?
Speaker 2 (51:41):
Oh, intdnia right now. But I certainly appreciate you letting
me talk, you know, interview me. I hope in some
way I help somebody. Yeah, absolutely, there's other people. It's
got the same things.
Speaker 1 (51:59):
Yeah, I'd almost bet someone else seeing that UFO in
the early night and in the early nineties and they
had to have or maybe they'd been seeing them for
quite some time. But it's definitely strange. It makes you
wonder what's happening, especially with the crypto phenomenon, whether it's
connected with UFOs or not. To me, it's strange that
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this stuff is happening in bigfoot hotspot areas.
Speaker 2 (52:24):
Yeah. Yeah, it seems like Missouri is kind of a
hot stop spot for all things.
Speaker 1 (52:30):
It really is, and a lot of people don't know that.
Speaker 2 (52:33):
Yeah, imminent said a big uh sasquats, a muddle sas
squats down going down the road nineteen is a domain
drag down imminence. But they had a big muddle sas
squats outside of the road and I thought that was
kind of few. I got some pictures of it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (52:55):
In Greenville, Missouri, south of Fredericktown, at a coffee shop.
They got a giant sasquad o giant wooden sasquatch statue
of Bigfoot, and there's been stuff that's happened there.
Speaker 2 (53:09):
Well, we're going down to Greenville, I think this week
to that. They're a Fourth of July party.
Speaker 1 (53:18):
Yeah. When you when you make a left off of
sixty seven, go past the little gas station there, you'll
see a coffee shop. You can't miss the Bigfoot. It's
like seven foot tall.
Speaker 2 (53:29):
Yeah. I'll be looking for it if I get to go.
Speaker 1 (53:32):
Yeah, absolutely, all right, Rick, Well, I appreciate your time.
It really means a lot to me. And if you
have any other photos you'd like to share, feel free
to share them with me. And yeah, if you run
into anything else in the future, and definitely contact me. Okay, Okay.
Speaker 2 (53:49):
I got one last thing to say for anybody who
lives in the Bolls. Turn to Jesus Christ as your
Lord and savior, and you won't have to worry so
much about these things. He is the ruler, he is
the King, and he owns this world. He is God.
All right, That's all I got to say.
Speaker 1 (54:08):
Amen, to that and I agree. All right, Rick, I'm
gonna let you go for now, and thank you so
much for making the report. It really means a lot.
And hopefully someone else from the same area speaks up
about their encounters and experiences.
Speaker 2 (54:23):
All right, all right, you have a great one now.
Speaker 1 (54:27):
Yeah you too, Yeah, keep in touch.
Speaker 2 (54:30):
Okay, bye bye.
Speaker 1 (54:32):
That was Rick's remarkable journey through UFO sightings, paranormal experiences,
and unexplained activity in the forest of Fredericktown, Missouri. His
story reminds us that sometimes the mysteries of the unknown
linger closer than we realize, passed down through generations of encounters.
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