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September 24, 2025 72 mins
James from South Carolina was rifle hunting for whitetail when he had a terrifying close encounter with a Sasquatch. While sitting in his deer stand, he noticed red glowing eyes watching him from the woods. Soon after, heavy limb-breaking echoed through the forest. When James shined his flashlight, he came face-to-face with a hulking, 10-foot creature that he feared might pull him from the stand.

In fear, James abandoned his hunt and left the area. The encounter left behind an overwhelming stench and the unsettling sense that the creature was laughing at him. James believes his deer calls, scent lures, and even his nearby turkey farm may have attracted the beast.

In this episode of Sasquatch Theory, James shares his chilling story in his own words. 

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Welcome back to Sasquatch Theory, where real people share their
real encounters. Tonight, we're heading deep into South Carolina for
a chilling story from James. While deer hunting from his stand,
James expected white Tail to walk through the woods. Instead,
he locked eyes with a hulking ten foot sasquatch, glowing

(00:24):
red eyes staring back at him. He describes bone snapping,
limb breaks, an awful stench, and the eerie feeling that
this creature was laughing at him. Stay tuned, you don't
want to miss this face to face encounter. I encountered
these creatures years ago and the memory of their presence

(00:45):
still haunts me to this day. I just wonder where
they came from and why they were in the area.
I also wonder if I, buy chance, snuck up on them,
or if they purposely revealed themselves to me. There's so
many questions that will never be answered, and it's just
a breath of fresh air being able to speak to
other like minded people who have encountered these same beings

(01:08):
in the forest. If you guys can like the video,
subscribe to the channel and be sure to comment down below.
Of course, if you have your own bigfoot or crypted
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(01:28):
you would like to share your encounter, that will really
help out the channel. With all that being said, let's
dive straight into james terrifying bigfoot encounter from the state
of South Carolina. James, Welcome to Sasquatch Theory. How are

(01:55):
you doing today?

Speaker 2 (01:57):
I'm doing good, Miguel, How are you, sir?

Speaker 1 (01:59):
I am doing. Thank you so much for asking, James,
if you would tell me a little bit about yourself,
where you're from, and your experiences from the very beginning. Please.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
I am from a little small town called Kershaw, South Carolina,
born and raised, grew up on a farm. Me and
my entire family always hunted, stayed in the woods, and
grew our own food. And we still knew society existed
outside of it, but you know, we were just country people.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
Yeah, I bet that's a nice life to live. And yeah,
it sounds like a really cool area. James, what happened
with your first experience, if you would put me in
your shoes and guide me through the entire thing.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
I guess a little background is kind of necessary. My
uncle actually owns turkey barns, and he bought a huge
piece of property, probably two hundred acres, and they harvested
turkeys every year. And we used to go up just
for fun, my cousins and I, and we would use
coyotes that were trying to get into the barn and

(03:05):
attack and this and that. And you know, we noticed
some big deer around here. We call them swamp deer.
They're really dark and really big. And like I said,
my entire family we've been hunting our entire life, and
we eat dear meat. You know, it's a part of
a part of our diet down here. It's one of
the staples. So we decided to take the excavator and
cut us out a little hunting spot back there behind

(03:29):
the barns. I graduated high school in ninety five, so
this had to be ninety six, ninety seven, and hunting
season here comes in in September, pold, very very cold.
I would drive to the barns and we all had
a habit of turning your headlights off before you got

(03:49):
to the barn, because I don't know if it's actually
true or not, but they say turkeys will stack up
on the light, so they will actually pack into the
corner and kill themselves. Everybody knew that. You know, when
you drive by the barns, turn your headlights off. So
that was our habit. We all had a tree lounge
tree stand. I'm not sure if you're familiar with that.

(04:11):
It's not like a stand up, but it is a
two piece that you climb the tree in and you
kind of get in and sit back. Kind of reminds
you of a recliner, very very comfortable. So yeah, this
is a really really cold morning in September, right after
right after deer season opened. My birthday's the thirteenth. The
deer season opens on the fifteenth. All of my family

(04:32):
runs dogs, and I've always been a still hunter because
I've always liked the quiet of the woods and watching
the squirrels play and just observing nature for the most part.
Went out that that evening. This was right or that morning, sorry,
this was right before daybreak. You're always really quiet, you know.

(04:52):
We made sure our hunting clothes never were washed, and
you know, the bright smelling flower stuff, and you kind
of leave a little trail of urine behind you with
like deer urin and the drops, and it kind of
mask your smell going into the woods. You know, That's
just the way we were taught as kids. Got in
the stand. I sat there for a while, probably probably

(05:16):
thirty forty five minutes nothing, and then as the sun
starts to come up, this when you start seeing the activity.
I started hearing the coyotes make their little howling noises.
It sounds like a crying child. It's really weird. But
at the same time, if you hear it enough, you
get used to it. You know what it is. They

(05:36):
started talking back and forth and you listen to that,
and little squirrels playing on the ground and everything starting
to move. Nature is starting to come to life. I
guess it's the easiest way to say it. And I
heard the loudest tree pop I've ever heard in my life,
and I was like, wow, that was a dead branch
that fell. And then it happened again, and then it

(06:00):
happened again. And I'm looking over in the corner to
see what I can see, and I really can't see anything.
And like I said, I forgot about this until I
think you had what was his name, rich That was
on or Rick, one of the two. I'm not sure,

(06:20):
but until hearing him talking about the eyes is what
made my brain recall this entire thing. Kettle flashlight with me.
I always carried a flashlight for the walk in or whatever.
You kind of keep it down to your chest so
all you can really see is the ground. I started
looking around for the trees that were breaking, and I'm

(06:41):
like that, that's not right. You know something, something seems
off and I shine the light over probably thirty degrees
off to my right where the Turkey Barnes would be,
and that is the first thing I seen something. The
eyes looked like they were on fire, and I was like, okay,
I've seen doll guys. I've seen you know, coyotes, I've

(07:04):
seen the year. I know what that looks like. I've
never seen this. And it took my brain a second.
They're registered and I was like, they're forward facing. Ford
facing is a predator, you know, right and left pray
more vision. I thought about it for a second. I
was like, nah, there's no way I've seen that, and
then I started shining down on the ground under my stand,

(07:27):
didn't think anything about it. I shined back where I
seen the eyes, and they were gone. I was like, okay,
that's just crazy. You know. It might have been a
car's head lights or something coming through the woods from
the road that was two hundred yards off to my right.
I never really registered. I don't know. Probably fifteen twenty

(07:48):
minutes later, I'm sitting in the stand and then a
tree breaks again. And when I flipped the light up,
because this one was really close, like you could feel
the shock wave off of the tree. King, I shined
the flashlight in that direction, and I seen what I
thought I seen. Man I was I was eight ten

(08:10):
feet high in a tree, but me and him face
to face. He was looking at me sixty yards away.
The biggest thing I've ever seen in my life. And
when I tell you, I frozen terror. I frozen terror.
I couldn't move, couldn't pull the light down, nothing. I

(08:32):
had a single shot New England Arms two seventy rifle
in my hands. My brain never registered you know you
have a gun, because it wouldn't have done any good.
I could tell you that he turned to walk off.
There's a creek bottom kind of probably thirty yard from
where we were. He turned to walk off, and then

(08:54):
he stopped and he looked back at me as a yeah,
you've seen what you thought, you say, and I'm like, okay,
I seen what I thought I seen, And it never
crossed my mind to shoot him, and that I've watched
so many encounters that listened to so many stories and
people say the exact same thing. It never crossed my
mind to shoot him. I was too scared. What if

(09:18):
all it did was make him mad? And he comes
running at me. I'm in a tree. He might have
had to jump a little bit to reach me, and
I am one hundred percent sure he could have tore
me and that deer stand out of that tree and
did whatever he wanted to. So I said, turn the
light off. I turned the light off, and I kind
of tuck the light down on my chest. My heart

(09:38):
was doing eight hundred miles an hour, and I was like,
this has got to be your mind starts to try
to rationalize it. This has got to be a joke.
This has got to be one of my cousins in
a suit or something to that effect. Then you sit
there and you think, am I safe to leave? I
think that was the biggest thing. I probably sat there
for an hour and a half, afraid to leave, afraid

(10:01):
to get down because as it, like I said, the
two piece stand. As you start walking down the tree,
it's gonna make noise. You can hear the bark falling
down and all of that other stuff. And that was
my biggest fear. Is am I Am? I safe to leave?
And I finally got up the courage and I got down,
got out of the tree, and started walking back to

(10:21):
my truck, which was probably forty forty five fifty yards away.
The entire time, when I tell you, I walked back
military style with that rifle cocked and aimed in front
of me all the way to my trunk. One percent.
It's really weird because you're not afraid for your life,

(10:43):
but when you're absolutely defenseless, you know that that rifle's
not gonna do anything against something that big. You probably
just aggravate him and then he would pick my truck
up and beat me with it. It's it's and I've
seen big people. I had a guy I played football
with that was seven ft one and you know, probably
three hundred and fifty four hundred pounds. Big guy No,

(11:05):
not compared to this. This is the biggest bipedal thing
I've ever seen in my entire life.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
Yeah, that sounds like a spooky bigfoot encounter. And I
can only imagine what you felt like being trapped up
there in that tree. I always think about that when
I'm deer hunting. I'm like, what if I see one
of these things and I'm up here in the tree,
especially once it gets dark. What do you feel like
this creature was thinking? And what do you think its
intentions were?

Speaker 2 (11:35):
Oh? God, the first thought that comes to mind is
he was laughing at me, and I think his second
thought was probably what are you doing in my woods?
A kind of a situation. I never felt that it
was going to hurt me. I just knew that if
it wanted to, it could kind of thing. And I'm
a big guy, you know, I'm six two hundred and
fifty pounds. I've played football and lift of weights my
entire life, and I would have had a chance. It's

(11:59):
just wouldn't have had a chance. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:02):
Absolutely. What do you think attracted the creature to the area.
Do you think it was the deer urine or the
turkey barn?

Speaker 2 (12:10):
I'm not sure. And I didn't start thinking about this
until I recalled the story, you know, probably a week ago.
It had to be the turkeys. But the thing about
the turkeys is we used to walk the barns every
day and you pick up the dead turkeys because they
do die. And we had an incinerator that was right
next to the barn to where you burn the dead
turkey bodies so that whatever they have doesn't infest the

(12:32):
rest of the turkeys. You know, it doesn't affect them
whatever it may be a virus or something. But it
had to be the deer because if I could show
you a like a Google map of it, you'd see
there's two hundred I think it's two hundred and thirty
some od acres and the first four acres or turkey barns,
and the rest of it behind it is would it
except for the spots we cleared, And they just had

(12:54):
free roame to do whatever they wanted to because nobody
ever goes back there, especially where I was raised. You know,
you don't go on other people's land without permission. You
know who owns the land. So if you need to
go on there for some reason, like to find your
dogs when you're running dogs for deer. You always make
a phone call, you know, Hey, David, I got my

(13:15):
dogs tracked on your land. Do you mind if i'd
go down your driveway behind your house and see if
I could find it. And everybody's always like, yeah, you're fine,
go ahead. But there was never any reason for anybody
to be back there because there was no access road.
Do you know the one to the barns and then
the little operational road around the barn But that's it.
In those woods. There was no access road. There was

(13:37):
no flour wheelers. People didn't ride back there kind of thing.
It was peaceful and quiet, and I guess he just
come across me that day. That's why it was kind
of confusing to him, and he will, I say him,
I'm not sure. I definitely did not see any breast
or anything like that, but I guess he was kind
of as confused as I was.

Speaker 1 (13:59):
Yeah. Absolutely, And it sounds like a big male from
what you described. Can you describe the features, like how
tall was this thing and what color did it have
around head? Can you describe any of the features.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
The only thing I can recall from that is this
forehead didn't have any hair on which I thought was weird.
It looked like like I said, if I had to guess,
I was probably eight to ten feet in the air
and he was. He was eye leveled with me from
and I seen this thing, what sixty yards maybe maybe
not even sixty It was eye level with me. He

(14:36):
was a big boy, super hairy, super dark. But you
could tell like shoulders like bowling balls just when he
turned and made that turn. It wasn't fat, It didn't
have a gut like like an ape or a silver
backed guerrilla or anything like that. This dude looked like
a bodyguarder. He was a monster.

Speaker 1 (14:59):
Yeah. Do you think he was exiting the area or
do you think he was trying to get downwind of you.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
I think he came up on me, and like I said,
he was just as surprised that I was there as
I was to see him. And then when he turned,
he was definitely headed back into the thick pines, back
down towards the creek. He was just trying to get
away from me, I guess. And the thought of something
that big being afraid of me is ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (15:26):
Yeah, So he was hitting the waterways trying to get
out of there, and I.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
Think that's where he stayed because you know, no, but well,
like I said, once again, nobody goes back there. Nobody's
ever said, ooh, there's a you know, a footprint here.
Oh the smell, I forgot about that. It smelled like
you run over a pack of skunks and I'm talking
fifteen of them horribly. And I did not smell that

(15:51):
until he left. Until he went away. That smell never
hit me. It never, It never came up until he
went away, And it was probably a good ten minutes
after em away, and I smelled that smell.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
I was like, Jesus, Yeah, he probably probably released this pheromone.
And I think they do it when they get nervous
and territorial. And from what I've heard from other people,
it really stinks.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
I've never heard of them releasing pheromones. I was just
assuming because they don't have the same cleaning regimen that
humans do. I've always assumed that's what that smell would be.
I guess, But yeah, you may be right, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
It could be that, or possibly from a kill. We
often hear encounter stories where these things pick up like
a dead deer off the side of the highway, or
they wait for it to rot before they take it.
So it's really hard to say. I mean, when I
let my dog go outside and there's like something foul
or dead animal, he'll roll around in it. So maybe
these things do the same thing.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
I would agree with that. I have a pit lab
and he is that guy. If it stinks, if it's dirty,
if it's nasty, he's gonna slam his head in it
and flip in it ten fifteen times. So he's been
sprayed by a skunk before, and it was nothing like that.
It was magnified by a hundred times.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
Yeah, and did you notice that before the limb breaking
or the tree breaks?

Speaker 2 (17:18):
No, all of this was after the limb breaking. I'm
not even sure what I thought it was back then.
You know, it was cold, but there was no ice.
It hasn't rained, so they wouldn't have a reason for
that it was. And I've never been back to this
day to even look. And like I said, that was
you know, ninety seven, ninety six, ninety seven, I've never

(17:39):
been back to this day. I'll never go back in
those and never again. My uncle goes to it all
the time. My cousins go to it. You know, they've
worked for him. So they help him, but you'll never
you'll never catch me back there again. I'm good.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
Yeah, I don't blame you, And I don't know if
these creatures actually migrate. I feel like they live in
those areas. Like if you've seen one there, chances are
years later, if you're hunting in the area, you'll have
more experiences.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
You can't. The weirdest thing is you want to you
want to shoot them. You know, afterwards, you're like, I'm
going to be the first person to prove that they
actually exist. But there is something about them that it
won't let you. You cannot bring yourself to shoot something
like that. You know, you're in awe and you're frozen.

(18:29):
I froze. I've never been scared like that in my
entire life ever.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
Yeah, the fear will overwhelm you and all of a sudden,
this big deer rifle that you have just feels like
a BB gun. And did it cross through your mind
that maybe you could shoot this thing and possibly like
take it into the Bass pro shop and Concord, North Carolina.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
No, not until many, many years later. But then you
come to that piece with your Well, he wasn't trying
to attack me, he wasn't trying to hurt me. He
wasn't trying to kill me, so why would I hurt him?
But at the same time, I was so scared. I
think if he would have came towards me out of
shot him, if I not even one hundred percent on that,

(19:15):
because like I said, I forgot I had the gun.
I forgot the gun was sitting in my lap. It
just you see, it's like seeing an alien or you know,
a UFO lands in front of your house and they
walk out. It's really really hard to believe that this
is actually happening, this is real. Your brain just won't
process it like a normal person. But now it just

(19:40):
it never crossed my mind to shoot him. Then at
that point, yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
I can't imagine the fear that you felt setting up
in that tree stand and seeing this creature at sixty
yards away. But I can't fathom the fear that would
overwhelm you if this thing started coming at you. If
it did, where would you you shoot it at? Would
you take a head shot? Center mass?

Speaker 2 (20:02):
Like?

Speaker 1 (20:03):
What would you have done?

Speaker 2 (20:05):
I would have closed my eyes and just pulled the
trigger because I only had one shot. I think at
that point between me and him and God, and we
would have had to figure out who who won. That
would I don't It wouldn't have done anything. I'm telling you.
It was a two seventy single shot New England armed.
It would have it would have done nothing. It might

(20:25):
have just you know, pissed him off to the point
to where he wanted to hurt me at that point.
But there, it's really weird. There was no aggression. I mean,
it scared me, but I didn't. I never felt like
he was coming after me because he just looked at
me and kind of laughed like, oh, I'm surprised you're here.
Kind of a situation, you.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
Know, yeah, absolutely, And it makes me think that there
are other hunters who had this same encounter that you had,
but they took the shot. Because there's a lot of reports,
especially like on the Missing four one with David Politis,
where these hunters are found mutilated or you know, they

(21:07):
find their bodies like in strange places and they send
search teams going out there looking for him. There was
one story east of Van Buren and Missouri, and the
hunter was way out there. I mean, this area is huge,
extremely vast, and he was out there hunting and he
was looking for a trophy. But basically he went missing

(21:29):
and the search team went out there and they didn't
find him. They went out the next day and exactly
where the search team parked, they found his body just
laying there. But they said it was because of hypothermia,
and it was like in the teens, like it was
super cold that day. And basically what they said was
he left his rifle, crossed the river looking for his buck,

(21:53):
and took off his clothes basically, And that just doesn't
make sense. If you wound a you're not gonna leave
your rifle behind.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
So no, and when you're hunting fast areas of land
like that, you always carry a side on him because
you know me as a hunter, I'm not gonna let
an animal suffer. If I get there and the rifle
didn't do the job, I'll finish the job. But no,
that makes no sense. I'm not leaving my rifle. It's
got a strap on it for a reason. I'll throw
it across my back, over my shoulder. I'm not sitting

(22:25):
my rifle down and leaving that. That's not gonna happen.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
Yeah, absolutely, So I feel like he probably had the
same situation that you had, and like when it's super
cold outside, I never cross a creek, like I don't
want my boots to get wet, let alone all my
clothes like that. That just doesn't make sense.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
Agreed. Yeah, I wouldn't go that far. You know, we've
we've shot deer, you see the trail, which you always
weak for daylight, clear light, And nine times out of ten,
I've always called in help, you know, call my cousins
or something and be like, hey, listen, I hit one.
I know, I shot him good. I've got bubble blood
and I need help finding him. And we'll pack up

(23:01):
the side by side four wheelers whatever and go out
there and look for him. But I'm not gonna set
my rifle down and go walking. That's that's not gonna happen.

Speaker 1 (23:10):
Yeah, because what if you run into it and it's
wounded and you need to take another shot exactly?

Speaker 2 (23:16):
Yeah, that I'm not gonna let an animal suffer. I
love them too much. Look, you know, it's really weird.
It's hard to describe. I think I'm I'm losing the
words here, but I was I was afraid. I was scared,
but I wasn't scared for my wife. Because like I said,
there was there was no real aggression. It h it

(23:37):
never came after me. It never even made a move
towards me. It like I said, it was. It was
as surprised as I was to see it. And I
know he's had to see if he if he lives
on that property, he's had to see humans before. He's
had to see you know, my uncles, my cousins and
everybody that walks those barns that you know, feed the
turkeys and you know my uncle does maintenance constantly the barns.

(24:00):
He's had to see a human before. But yeah, he
was absolutely surprised to see me sitting there.

Speaker 1 (24:08):
Yeah, that's understandable. The bigfoot that I saw in Missouri,
I don't know. I almost felt like I floated outside
of my body. I was in shock. And it's almost
like in those war movies when I don't know, like
when chaos erupts and like they just freeze and everything's
going on and people are yelling at them to shoot,
and then it takes them a few minutes to snap

(24:29):
back to reality and you know, to take action. And
that's kind of how it was with me. Like I
couldn't think, like I was just locked onto this creature
and I was overwhelmed with fear, shock and like disbelief.

Speaker 2 (24:43):
And you know, now something else with you saying that
that brought to mind. I had a cell phone. I
had my cell phone on me. It never crossed my
mind to take a picture or even attempt to. That's
really weird that that just popped into my head. It
never crossed my mind to pull my phone out and
take a picture. That they were potatoes back then anyway,
But yeah, never crossed my mind to take a picture.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
Yeah, that's understandable. Did you ever have any prior experiences
out there where you took a shot on a deer?
You know, you hit it good, you found blood, and
then you followed the blood trail and never found the deer.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
Uh yeah, more than once. Had a cousin of mine
that loves to bow hunt, and I've always thought that
that was inhumane, but he was a bow hunter, and yeah,
we tracked many many deer for him. I shot a
dough and a shot that I probably shouldn't have taken,
but it was. It was well over three hundred yards
and we never found her. But you know, their tendency

(25:38):
is to run to water. That's that's the first thing
they do when they're hurt. They go to water. And
we walked the creek well for two and a half
three hours until it got too dark and never even
found her. And you know, we kind of left that.
I hated to do that, but couldn't find her.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
Yeah. I've had that happen several times, and I think
many hunters can relate to that, where they watched the
deer drop or they just found a ton of blood
and they just never find the deer.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
Yeah, you never want that belly shot. It's always that
good clean shoulder, vital organs or head. You know, anything
inside of one hundred yards, I'm taking a headshot. And
I always have because that's instant. And like I said,
I love animals. I don't want them to suffer, but
we ate them. I've never shot anything with horns on
it in my entire hunting career. I've never killed a buck.

(26:30):
I've always shot dough because that's what we eat. Yeah,
never even tried. And I mean going back even a
little history, Like I said, my dad he hunted with
a hunting club for good god thirty years and you
know I was part of the club. My nickname was
little Britches because my hunting pants never really fit me right.

(26:52):
They were too big and they would fall down, and
everybody called me little Breeches. But I carried a Remenen
eleven hundred shot gun, and you know you're talking seven
eight nine years old. My dad would take me down
a hunting road to where the dogs were going to
cross that, he thought, and drop me off. I've been
in the woods for hours by myself and have never

(27:13):
seen anything like that's in a hog. I's seen a
wild board run across the road one time, but never
seen anything like this. And that day, I don't know.
I guess the univers aligned to put me in the
place where I was where he was.

Speaker 1 (27:29):
Yeah, it sounds like in South Carolina, you guys have
the same deer season as us, Like both seasons starts
September fifteenth. What day did this encounter take place? Or
what months? Should I ask?

Speaker 2 (27:42):
September? Our rifle season starts September fifteenth. Our birth season
starts at the end of November.

Speaker 1 (27:49):
So wow, Okay, so it's a little different. And you
mentioned it was morning time and you could see these
eyes and they look like they were on fire. Were
they red eyes.

Speaker 2 (27:59):
Oh no, no, sir, No, it literally looked like you
were staring into two fireplaces, the orange and the little
blue tips, and it it looked like staring in the fireplace. Wow.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
And there wasn't like a light that was shining on
the creature where they like self illuminated.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
No, no, no, it was when I hit him with
the flashlight when he looked at me.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
Okay, I'm not.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
I'm not one hundred percent sure he even knew I
was there until I hit him with the flashlight. But
like I said, I wasn't looking for him. It was
that last limb that broke that I realized. Okay, that's,
you know, directly in front of me. And I popped
my flashlight up. And when I say flashlight, you know
is back in the nineties my dad gave me for
a birthday gift. It's like a four D cell flashlight.

(28:46):
And that's as bright as we had. We didn't have
the LED stuff that we have now, and that's what
I was using. And as soon as I hit him
with that flashlight, he turned around and looked at me,
and I seen those eyes. I was like, holy.

Speaker 1 (28:58):
Crap, Yeah, that makes complete sense. And I apologize for
the confusion. And yeah, you also mentioned you could feel
the shock wave off of the tree break. That must
have been a big tree break. And I do believe
it was a mail I mean, it sounds like a
territorial male and there had to have been others around.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
But that puts me in the mind of wondering what
was he doing. You know, if he didn't know I
was there, what was he doing? But then you think
that a creature like this has been in existence for
this long around humans and used to being around humans,
you would have think he would have smelled me. But
like I said, we were always talled. You know, you

(29:37):
don't wash your hunting clothes with fabric softener. You know,
it was always baking soda and water. It's all we
ever washed them with. That it got the human smell
off of you. And when you take a shower, we
had a special soap you would take a shower with.
And as we walked in the woods, you know, you
had a little drop a dough yurn and you drop
a dough urn every ten fifteen feet as you're walking

(29:57):
in kind of thing. But you would have thought he
would have smelled me like But I honest to God,
I think I surprised him as much as he surprised
me because he didn't expect me to be there.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
Yeah, that makes sense. And being a hunter, I'm sure
you tiptoed your way in there, walking real slow and
making sure you didn't step on a stick. And perhaps
he thought you were another deer or possibly another clan member.
What do you think.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
I don't think I'm big enough to be one of
his clan members. And I'm glad he didn't think I
was a deer. I would have been dinner. But yeah,
I'm not one hundred percent. There are a thousand things
that you could ask me that I couldn't explain. I
really can't. I don't know. I know what happened. I

(30:46):
couldn't explain any of it. I just thank God that
he decided he wasn't going to come after me because
it would not have been a problem, and that you know,
I used to carry a pistol with me. We carry
snake pistols all the time, and I didn't have one
that day, but it would it mattered. I'm telling you
this thing, this is the biggest thing I've ever seen,
I've met. I don't know if you're a wrestling fan

(31:07):
or not, but I've met the big show in person. Yeah,
he made him look like a baby.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
Yeah, that's amazing. And I'm sure at sixty yards something
that's ten foot tall seems like it's only like twenty
or thirty yards away.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
Yeah, oh yeah, he was there and broad, just shouldered
to shoulder. Those trees were because we used to cut
the back of the property and then we would plant
saplings and let them grow and then you know, every
ten to fifteen twenty years, my uncle would pay somebody
to harvest those. But saplings were planted. I don't want

(31:48):
to lie six and a half or eight and a
half feet apart, I can't remember. And he was, you know,
he was broad enough that he closed the gap between
those for the most part. He was probably at least
four and a half five and a half foot across
shoulder to shoulder when he turned. So whatever, whatever limb

(32:09):
he broke, the one that popped that, I could feel
he could have picked that up and thrown it at
me like it was nothing like a dart. Yeah, and
I don't understand the limb breaking too, So maybe you
can shed a little light on that for me, because
you know, like I said, you're the second person I've
ever told this story, and I've never done any Bigfoot research.

(32:29):
I've never cared to go find out if they were
real and all of that, and I've never really cared
about it. But I don't understand what the limb breaking
or the tree breaking was about.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
Yeah, it's hard to say what these things are, but
that definitely sounds like primate behavior. They will break trees
when they're being territorial, possibly letting you know to stay
away or to get out of there, or possibly communicating
with other clan members. But also with predators like this,
they'll purposely break a limb to divert your attention to

(33:05):
that when others are sneaking around you from the other side,
so basically they're flanking you.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
Oh god, that makes it worse. I've never even thought
of that. That's even more scarier than the initial encounter.
That's to think that there were more of those.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
Yeah, oh wow, I'm sure there were. And these things
travel on clans and they work together for the better
of the group.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
It's it's I'm a I'm a very rational person. I'm
one of those that you know, if it happened to today,
I'm not sure that I would hold to what I'm
about to say, but what I would want to do
is be like, hey, let's have a conversation. You know,
where are you from? Are you a fifth dimensional being?
Or are you an alien that was dropped off on

(33:52):
our planet to test our environment? You know what? Are you?
But no that at that day, at that point, I
didn't want to have a conversation. I just wanted to
get out of that tree and get home. I never
told my father, and I kind of wish I would have,
because my dad had spent more time in the woods
than anybody I've never ever known my entire life. He
was an avid fisherman, avid hunter. You know, every season

(34:14):
he would run fox dogs, he would run deer dogs.
That guy's been in the woods more than anything. And
he passed in twenty nineteen. But I kind of kind
of regret not ever talking to him about it. But
at the same time, you feel crazy telling.

Speaker 1 (34:29):
Somebody this, you know, yeah, absolutely, and I'm sorry for
your loss. And did the creature like the direction that
you saw him in? Was that the same direction that
you heard the tree breaks or the limb breaks or
was it like behind you walking in to your stand.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
So I can't really tell you the actual compass direction,
but I can explain it to you like this. I
never heard a single thing walking to the stand. This was,
you know, forty five minutes an hour after I've been
in the stand. This was this was just at the
break of daylight when you start seeing the orange sun
come up. So if I'm facing due north to my west,

(35:11):
is where I heard the trees start breaking and snapping.
And it wasn't back to back by any means. It was,
you know, a good three six minutes apart. And then
when I actually seen him, he was due north facing
in front of me, so it kind of came from
my left. And then when he turned to leave, when

(35:33):
he finally realized I was there, he went the exact
same direction that he came, like like he had made
a path come to where he was, and he went
back down that path, exact same direction. And it took
the I mean, this happened of what three seconds. Maybe

(35:53):
you know, adrenaline slows your time down, but it seems
like ten minutes. But between the last break that I
could feel in me getting the courage to throw the
light up and him turning and leaving was probably three seconds.

Speaker 1 (36:12):
Yeah, yeah, definitely, adrenaline will slow down time. Did it
ever make eye contact with you?

Speaker 2 (36:21):
Oh? He looked directly into my flashlight. Wow, one hundred
percent looked directly into my flashlight. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:29):
It's terrifying being the hunter and then knowing that you're
being hunted by something. I can't say that's exactly what
was happening, but I mean these thanks could easily do that.

Speaker 2 (36:40):
I hope not. I'm glad not. But yeah, I've heard
a lot of stories because I didn't start thinking about this.
So a little backstory how I even got the courage
to contact you and tell you this is my girlfriend
has two little kids, and she said the other day
that Bigfoot was her boyfriend and she wanted to watch

(37:00):
nothing but Bigfoot videos on YouTube. So when we feed
them dinner, we you know, will let them watch TV.
And her her name is Poppy, and miss Poppy was
pointing Bigfoot's my bullfriend pointing at the TV. And that video.
I cannot remember his name and I hate to misname it.
It was either Rick or rich and he was from

(37:22):
I think upstate or like the low country South Carolina
that you had. I watched that video, and when he
said the eyes looked like they were on fire, my
brain instantly went right back to the story and I
was like, oh my god, I've seen the same thing.
And then I started watching your videos. I've heard a

(37:43):
lot like people saying, you know, I could see the
teeth and they had huge fangs and this and that.
I didn't see any of that. I just noticed that
his forehead didn't have any hair on it, and he
had a big, beautiful beard. It's what's really weird. He
had had a monster beard on him.

Speaker 1 (37:58):
The sasquatch that you saw a beard on it.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
Oh yeah, yeah, you could definitely tell the difference in
the facial hair and the body hair. The body hair
was probably two and a half three inches long, and
the beard was good, god, I don't know nipple, it
was just down to his nipples. It was huge because
when he turned his when he turned his head, you

(38:21):
know how a woman to flip their hair, That's that's
what it looked like like. You could see the beard
flow and follow through.

Speaker 1 (38:28):
Oh wow, yeah, that's incredible. And yeah, again it does
sound like a male. He didn't have hair on his forehead,
he had a beard, and this thing was over four
feet wide across the shoulders, and yeah, that thing sounds terrifying.

Speaker 2 (38:41):
Man, How did something because you know, you think about
a predator and you think about a primate. How many
deer does this thing have to eat? How many fish
does it have to catch out of the stream to
eat to be that big? Or or is it a
you know, does it have a plan based died if
it has a plant based diet, if we could figure

(39:03):
that out, everybody builder in the world needs to be
eating whatever this thing is because he was a monster. Man.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
Yeah, they're definitely omnivores because I've taken stories of them
eating berries and stories of them eating deer or even dogs,
so they'll eat whatever they can get their hands on.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
Yeah, I'm sure that a lot of things don't have
a chance against these things, because, like I said, it
could have snatched me out of that tree and the
tree stands made out of you know, an inch and
a half aluminum hollow square. He could have snatched me
out of that tree and beat me to death with
my dear stand if he wanted to, or my rifle,

(39:45):
you know, whatever he wanted to do. I couldn't have
stopped it.

Speaker 1 (39:48):
Yeah, I heard a bigfoot encounter on Sasquatch Chronicles years ago,
and this hunter was sitting in his stand and the
sasquatch came up and ripped the stand down from the
tree with him in it.

Speaker 2 (40:00):
That I have no idea what I would have done
if that would have happened. I don't I like you said,
take the shot. I don't know what I would have
done if he would have gotten any closer than he was.
But at that time, I've I was frozen fear.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
I yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
And it's really weird to be that way, to be
to be so scared that you can't do anything, but
at the same time know you're not in danger because
he's going the other way. Is is the weirdest thing ever? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (40:31):
Absolutely. A lot of hunters think, like in areas where
we live at you know, there's no more grizzly bears,
they've been eradicated from the area, but there's something out
there that's far much worse, way bigger, and you don't
know if you're going to run into it.

Speaker 2 (40:46):
Yeah, we don't. We don't have those. It's few and
far between. You'll ever hear about a bear in Kershall County.
I mean, we may have seen a black bear here
and there, but there are no I know what a
bear looks like this. This was not a bear. This
was four bears put together that walked on two feet.

Speaker 1 (41:06):
Yeah, yeah, for sure.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
And then to extend this so like, like I told
you in our initial conversation that I told the story
to my little brother the other day, and my little
brother has his own story, and it's about him chasing him,
Like he ran beside his truck and he was in

(41:28):
like twenty five thirty five miles an hour, and it
was keeping up with him, could easily have passed him.
And he said, the only thing I could see was
knee cap and the thigh and it's how big he was.
And he was in a jacked up Ford Ranger with
probably thirty two inch tires on it. And if I
could ever convince him to actually tell the story to somebody,

(41:49):
and this was six miles from my encounter, you know,
it's it's they're not that far apart. Might be the
same guy, you never know.

Speaker 1 (41:58):
Yeah, I don't know which encounter more terrifying.

Speaker 2 (42:02):
I think I would have felt safer in a car, Yeah,
I would have. I definitely felt safe once I got
to my truck because I had a eighty six toy
at a four by four at the time. And whatever
that little twenty two R could do from the Turkey
borns to my house, trust me, I did it. I
wanted to get home, and I sat outside my My

(42:24):
father has three acres fenced in and then our garden
was eighteen acres to the right. I sat outside of
the gate for I don't know, thirty forty five minutes
until I calmed down and then finally walked in the house.

Speaker 1 (42:37):
Yeah. That, I mean, your brother's encounters not too far away.
Hopefully we can get them on the channel someday to
log down his report. The sasquatch that you encountered, did
it seem aggressive, curious, scared or indifferent? Like what do
you think?

Speaker 2 (42:55):
I think indifferent would be the best word. And adds
in there like I said, he was surprised to see
that I was there, like, you know, this is my land,
this is this is where I've been way longer than you,
and what are you doing here kind of situation. I
would not have called him aggressive at all, because he
just turned and walked away. It never come toward me,

(43:18):
He never showed his teeth and never growled. I never heard,
you know, the sounds that people say they hear. It
was just the limb snapping up until I actually seen him.
And when he seen me, like I said, we were
we were both surprised. I don't think he was as
surprised as I was, but he was definitely surprised that
I was there. And I wouldn't have I wouldn't call

(43:41):
it aggression at all, because, like I said, he never
never made a step out of the tree line towards me.

Speaker 1 (43:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:49):
I agree.

Speaker 1 (43:50):
And you mentioned that I was like the second or
third person that you've ever told in your life. How
did this encounter affect you emotionally or mentally?

Speaker 2 (43:58):
Like?

Speaker 1 (43:58):
How did you deal with all this?

Speaker 2 (44:00):
Oh? I forgot about it. I didn't think a thing
about it until I, like I said, I put the
show on for my girlfriend's daughter, and then when we
were in the middle of eating dinner, and then I
think it was Rick. I don't want to say his
name wrong. It's either rich or Rick.

Speaker 1 (44:18):
I think it was Rick by Highway eleven in South Carolina.

Speaker 2 (44:22):
It may be when he said something about his eyes
looked like they were on fire. I popped my head
up and looked at the TV and I was like
what And then I backed it up and I was like, Okay,
now I get it. Now I know what I seen,
and yeah, that's kind of where it came from. But

(44:43):
I've never done any Bigfoot research. You know, everybody and
their cousin who likes history has heard about the Patterson
Gimblin film, like obviously, but I've never dove into Bigfoot.
I've never tried to prove he was real or anything.
And it just it's not that, uh I pushed the
memory down. It just I forgot about it, you know.

(45:06):
I went on with my life, and uh, as soon
as he said the eyes looked like they were on fire,
it lit my memory back and I said, okay, I
gotta I gotta tell him and emailed you. And my
brother came over and I spoke to him. We had

(45:26):
probably an hour and a half conversation about this, and
then he never said a word, which is really odd
because my brother's not a quiet guy. He's a very boisterous,
you know, talking kind of guy, always making a joke,
always been funny. And he listened to the entire story
and I looked over at him and I said, you
think I'm crazy, don't you? And he goes nope. I said,

(45:48):
what do you mean Nope? He is Nope, you don't
have anything to say. He said, I'll tell you something
if you don't tell anybody, And I said, tell me,
And then he told me his story and I was like, dude,
that's like six miles apart, we might've seen the same Bigfoot.

Speaker 1 (46:10):
Yeah, that's incredible, and it makes you wonder if it's
the same Sasquatch. And a lot of people talk about
having these encounters and having other family members that see
one two later on. People speculate like maybe it's like
something with your DNA or certain families are marked by
these creatures. If you could go, yeah, I know, have

(46:32):
you ever had any other experiences other than Bigfoot, like
with the paranormal, any near death experiences, anything unusual that's
like an unexplained mystery.

Speaker 2 (46:42):
So it's funny that you mentioned that. But when I
was a baby, my mother had a My dad was
big on hot rods and fast cars and stuff like that.
He bought my mother a SS money Carlo and my
mother had dropped me off at a babysit one night
for her and my dad to go to her, and
my mom had said that on her way home there

(47:04):
was a light in her riview mirror that would not
go away. And you know, she would make five left
turns and two right turns, you know, couldn't completely out
of her way. But something was following her. And as
that's money carlors, you know, pretty fast back in the day.
And she said she drove as fat as she could,
and it just kept getting brighter and closer and closer

(47:27):
until it filled up the cabin of the car. And
she said she slammed on brakes and then it went
completely past her in front of the car, stopped, and
then went straight up in the air. And that's that's
the only thing I've ever really heard about anything else
in my family. My grandmother, on the other hand, this

(47:49):
is God, I feel crazy for even saying this. This
is it's really rude. My grandmother could talk fire, and
I don't know if you've ever heard that term being
an old southern country person. Been perfect example. My friend
was cooking, or my family member was cooking one night
in the kitchen and bowling water to make macaroni, and

(48:11):
her baby somehow got to the to the pot and
spilled the bowling water on the baby and my grandmother.
You know, this baby was screaming. They had called the ambulance. Done,
ambulance was there. My grandmother went over and she talked
fire out of that baby. That baby instantly quit, quit crying.

(48:33):
No scars, no, no sunburn, no, you know, the bubbles
that come up, none of that. So my grandmother could
do that. I had an aunt that could do that
because her uncle had taught her kind of situation. But
that's about as weird as it gets. I guess me
and my brother are only are the only big slip people.

Speaker 1 (48:56):
Yeah, that's incredible, and I appreciate you for sharing that
with me. If you could go back, would you want
to encounter this creature again?

Speaker 2 (49:04):
The same one?

Speaker 1 (49:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (49:07):
No, get me a smaller one maybe, yeah, Well.

Speaker 1 (49:11):
They're probably around. What do you think these creatures are?

Speaker 2 (49:16):
Oh? God, that's that's a loaded question. I had so
many theories. Uh, I don't know. Maybe maybe an uninvolved
primate that wants to be left alone because the older
you get and the more you interact in society, the
more people you meet and the more people you have

(49:38):
to deal with, the more you want to be left alone.
So I kind of understand them, but I don't know. Man,
I I couldn't even ponder a guess. But they're not stupid.
I can tell you that he's he wasn't stupid. You know,
it's really weird, but you know, if somebody puts you

(49:58):
in a room with somebody, you can almost get an
instinct of them too. You know, I'm gonna like this person,
or I'm not gonna like this person, or I need
to hold on my wallet because this person might steal
my wallet, or you know, this person's gonna rob me
or something like that. It's a feeling you get, and
I never got that. I never got that he was stupid,

(50:21):
because if it was just acting on its primal instincts
and it was hungry, I would have been breakfast.

Speaker 1 (50:32):
Yeah, I agree with you. They seem like they're really
intelligent and there's just something ancient about them, and they
just seem unpredictable. I have.

Speaker 2 (50:46):
Done a little research, watched a few videos here and
there in the past week or so, and the fifth
dimension kind of situation, I'm not one hundred percent. I've
heard people talk about the flashing light was one encounter
that someone had on their channel that it was. You know,
it bent down and there was this huge ball of

(51:07):
light around it and then all of a sudden disappeared,
and you know, grass still won't grow in this spot.
What that ball of light was kind of like a
Terminator did when you know Ron Schwarzenecker first showed up
and Terminator. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna dispose that.
I'm not going to say that's a lie, but that's

(51:27):
a little far fetched for me. I think it's an animal,
and I think the running joke of a Hide and
Seek champion of the World is probably fitting.

Speaker 1 (51:39):
Oh yeah, without a doubt. It makes me wonder if
the missing hikers at Table Rock and Pickens County are
maybe going missing because of these creatures. There's people that
have been that went missing out there that have never
been found again. They never even found like their clothes
or anything.

Speaker 2 (51:57):
It makes you wonder, you know, all the all the
respect in the world to their families, but they didn't
feel any pain when they died, if that's what killed them,
because I promise you they had a heart attack before
before this thing attacked them. They had a heart attack.
I promise you. I don't think I've ever felt my

(52:18):
heart in my fingertips the way I did that day.
It just it would not slow down. It that that's
the scary thing. Yet. Man, I've wrecked motorcycles. I've been
a motorcycle rider in my entire life. I've been in
the back of ambulances. I've been in a helicopter thinking
I was going to die. The helicopter ride was knowing

(52:40):
I was going to die, Like, yeah, I'm not going
to make the hospital. Guys, you're you're wasting your time,
You're wasting medicine. I wasn't as scared in that helicopter
as I was that morning.

Speaker 1 (52:55):
Yeah, I can only imagine. And it's a terrifying feeling
when you see them, but it's a comforting feeling when
you see them going their own way and leaving the area.

Speaker 2 (53:06):
And that's the thing is, like I said, I'm glad
I didn't provoke it because it kind of it gives
you that little bit of peace, like I just want
to be left alone. I don't I don't know why
you're here. I'm surprised you're here. Well, buddy, i'm surprised
you're here too, But I just want to be left alone.
And then you kind of come to that common ground,

(53:26):
like you know, you you leave me alone, I'll leave
you alone, and we're both gonna be okay. But I
was not okay walking out of those woods. I was
having a full breakdown. My hands were shaking. It was
everything I can do to drive, you know, Like I said,
it was just breaking dawn. So I didn't even turn
the headlights on until I was halfway home, and I

(53:48):
was like, oh, crap, a new headlights. You're it will
mess you up. Your your brain does not work when
you're in that stressful of a situation. I fully to this,
do not understand how Navy seals and you know our
American armed forces do that when they're in a gunfight.
I don't know how you think, because I couldn't. It

(54:11):
turned my brain off.

Speaker 1 (54:13):
Yeah. Absolutely, when we experience a traumatic situation, we try
to bury it deep inside your mind. And you know,
people call that being like an avoidant, but I call
it being responsible with your thoughts. And it's similar to
like state patrol men or people that are in the military.

(54:34):
You know, they see some really ugly things and you
just have to be professional about it and kind of
just forget about it or you know, tuck it in
a place inside your mind where it doesn't affect you, and.

Speaker 2 (54:47):
You want to you want to think that way. You
want to think that, Okay, this just happened, and I'm
going to let my logical mind sit down and reason
this out. I'm going to easing this out. That is
definitely not your first reaction. Your first reaction is you're
adrenal gland pumps you full of adrenaline. And then after

(55:09):
that adrenaline dump, when your body starts processing it, you
feel stupid because you can't think. You don't know how
to put shoes on, You don't know how to tie
your shoes, you don't know how to make a phone call,
you don't know how to get dressed. You forget how
to drive a car, those things. And I think that's
exactly what happened to me, is once the adrenal land

(55:30):
wore off with the adrenaline in it, I had that dump.
I just became stupid and I forgot how to do everything.
Breathing is the only thing that was involuntary, and thank
god I kept doing that.

Speaker 1 (55:44):
Yeah, absolutely, And I feel like you handled it the
right way. The worst thing you could have done was
took a shot on this creature, or followed it in
the direction that it went looking for answers. And that's
what I did when I encountered the bigfoot. And really,
I was walking down my road and I watched it
get up. It was only like thirty or forty yards
to my left in the woodline, and it just stood

(56:06):
up and walked off, similar to the Patterson Gimlin footage.
It looked over at me a few times. This thing
was seven feet tall plus give or take, and it
gave me the I don't know, the cold shoulder when
it looked over at me. This thing looked evil, but
I was in shock, just like you. But whenever it
disappeared into the forest, I took off running and I

(56:27):
pursued it.

Speaker 2 (56:28):
And are you serious? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (56:30):
When I followed it, I couldn't see it anymore, and
I just stood there. Everything was real quiet, and then
I could hear it. I could hear it breathing, like.

Speaker 2 (56:39):
Let's let's process this and that that was gonna be
my next question. What would you have done if you
found it? Because I had no desire to go behind
this thing. Zero.

Speaker 1 (56:48):
Yeah. When I heard it, it made it concrete, like
you would think an iesiding, would you know, be that
breaking point like, oh man, I just saw a bigfoot.
I saw it, but I couldn't believe what I saw.
So when I and I heard it, for some reason,
just like hearing it like made it so much more
real because you could feel the breath just like whoa.
And it was pissed off that I followed it. And

(57:10):
I've seen signs like that in the national forests that
like warn people of bigfoot. There are some national forests
that have signs and they say do not follow them,
like don't pursue a bigfoot if you see one. And
that's what I did, so.

Speaker 2 (57:23):
It's validated it's real at this point if the national
forest has signed mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (57:27):
Yeah, some areas do, like in Missouri or Washington State,
but not every single national forest or conservation area, just
some areas. I think if like a lot of people
are having experiences and it's kind of ongoing, they'll put
up signs. But yeah, it doesn't make sense because some
national forest forest rangers like they acknowledge it, but it's

(57:49):
not acknowledged through like the common people. And even in Florida,
like there's conservation areas where they say you were, like
it's in the rules, Like it's in the writing you
are not allowed to take a skunk or swamp ape
out of the forest, like you're not allowed to shoot one.
I read it on their website, sir.

Speaker 2 (58:09):
I will tell you right now, I wanted to go
one hundred and eighty degrees from this thing. There was
no desire to follow it. There was no desire to
pet it, there was no desire to ask it questions.
I wanted to be as far as I could, as
fast as I could from this thing. I know I

(58:30):
do not have the bravado in me to follow one.
I wouldn't have done it then and I won't do
it now. That's not gonna happen. He could have hit
me with my truck, like I'm telling you, an eighty
six single cab Toyota four who drive. He could have
picked my truck up and hit me with it if
you wanted to. No, I'm not gonna follow him.

Speaker 1 (58:52):
Yeah, I don't blame you and Jane.

Speaker 2 (58:55):
Maybe maybe with a black Hawk helicopter.

Speaker 1 (59:00):
Right what, it might throw a rock up at you
and shoot you down.

Speaker 2 (59:04):
Man. Well, that's the weirdest thing that now that I'm
I'm into it because I promise you I'm a bigfoot researcher.
At this point, I've been watching nothing but bigfoot stuff
on YouTube. I never heard him. I never heard a footstep,
I never heard a noise, nothing. Until the limbs started snapping,

(59:25):
I never heard a single thing.

Speaker 1 (59:30):
Yeah, that's terrifying. And in the future, you'll have to
keep an eye out for the X structures, arches, tps,
and you'll typically see them off the sides of roads
or parking lots or I don't know, nearby national forest
or conservation wilderness areas. If you venture out that way,

(59:51):
just keep an eye out for sign especially in the pines.
You said this thing was hanging out in the pine trees.

Speaker 2 (59:57):
It was. It was I almost want to say camouflaged
to a certain part, because like I said, I had
shined the light over there more than once and didn't
see anything. But it was it was that last limb
break that I could fill the vibrations because it had

(01:00:19):
to be I don't know what four and a half
inches in diameter limb break when it broke that you
could actually feel it is when I knew where it
was at.

Speaker 1 (01:00:32):
Yeah, and I've actually heard those limb breaks and tree breaks,
and it's amazing because later on, if you go to
that spot where you heard the tree breaks, you'll typically
find tree structures. And a lot of people say, how
do you know these structures are made by bigfoot? It's like, well,
because I heard one in there and then I went
and looked and I found these.

Speaker 2 (01:00:52):
No, that's a that's a family issue. I left twenty
years ago, my friend, So I hope they haven't seen him,
or have seen him, or leave him alone. It would
be their best avenue. But no, I haven't been back.
I moved here in rock Hill in two thousand and
five and I haven't been back home since. There's nah,

(01:01:16):
no I would. You couldn't pay me. There's not enough money.
There's not a gun big enough, and I'm I'm an
avid gun collector. I have four fifty eight socoms, I
have fifty calim ones. I've got four sixteen rigbies. There's
just nothing big enough that I would take back there
and feel comfortable. It wouldn't happen.

Speaker 1 (01:01:35):
Yeah, even if you did take it down, you have
like seven or nine other ones to worry about coming
after you.

Speaker 2 (01:01:41):
See, I never thought about that. That makes it even worse.
I let you say that, because now that you mentioned that,
I mean, good God. Yet, Yeah, he couldn't have been
by hisself, right, Like they travel in family units that
you saved, and he probably had two or three more,
maybe another male, maybe a female that was three quarters
of his size, and maybe a baby. And I'm assuming

(01:02:03):
the babies are my size, you know, six and fifty pounds. Yeah,
I'm not fighting that thing. It's not gonna happen.

Speaker 1 (01:02:10):
Yeah, they're usually never alone. And I've noticed a trend
with these reports. A lot of people tell me encounters
similar to yours, and they say, you know, I used
to live on a hog farm. And also there's a
place in Missouria that's been having a lot of bigfoot
encounters throughout the years, and there's four different hog farms
spread throughout the area, and they say they throw like

(01:02:31):
the bones and you know, all the guts and stuff
out back, and for some reason there's a lot of
reports around those areas.

Speaker 2 (01:02:40):
Well. I mean, it's a food source if you're logical
about it, a primate or whatever it may be that
big has to eat, and the caloric intake along. You
can only imagine it's got to come from somewhere and there.
You know, deer is only so much. It's a very
lean meat. I would imagine, now that I think about it,

(01:03:01):
a pattern as far as the winner, they would be
stocking up on fat as much as they can to
make it through the winner. And deer's not a It's
a really good source of protein, but not a good
source of fat. So there's got to be other things,
you know, ducks, and now that I think about that,
in the middle of this conversation of why did they
not eat the coyotes because we had a serious coyote

(01:03:23):
problem out there.

Speaker 1 (01:03:26):
Yeah, yeah, that's a great question. And you know, I've
also taken a lot of reports where people will shoot
a turkey when it's turkey season and they see a
sasquatch running out, grabbing the turkey and taking off, so
they definitely like turkey.

Speaker 2 (01:03:40):
That's just messed up. Mm hmm. That's And why not
alligators pick on something your own size? You want to
you want to fight a dinosaur fighter dinosaur? The mess
with alligators and what you call in the I've heard
the term the skunk man or something like that. That's
in Florida. Mm hmmm, yeah, the sky Yeah, there, he goes, Okay,

(01:04:04):
why not find an alligator, pick on something your own
size that can fight you back.

Speaker 1 (01:04:09):
I feel like they would.

Speaker 2 (01:04:11):
Yeah, they probably do. We just never hear of it
because nobody ever reports to their alligator.

Speaker 1 (01:04:16):
Missing, right, Yeah that's true. Who would know?

Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
So I will I will do my best to convince
my brother because he was apprehensive, like like I was,
and like I still am. And I will see if
I can talk to him and get him to contact
you and tell his story. But like I said, he's
a joker. He's he's gonna make a lot of jokes
and it's gonna sound like it's not real, and he's

(01:04:43):
going to go back and forth, and you know, he'll
tell you like he told me, he said, I I
don't call him Sasquatch, I don't call him bigfoot. I
call him satchet Bow because I know him. And I'm like,
what do you mean you know him? And he's like, oh,
we were close enough to get to know each other.
Kind of situation. But I would love for him to
tell you his story, just just to have it out there.

(01:05:03):
And like I said, with the distance only being you know,
six miles apart, he's got to tell it because I'm
sure it's at least in the same family or they
know each other because they seem to run that wooded
area there.

Speaker 1 (01:05:17):
Oh yeah, absolutely, it has to be the same family group,
and that would be absolutely incredible to have your brother on.
And I'll wait a while before I post this in
case he decides to tell his encounter that way. That
way I can post them back to back.

Speaker 2 (01:05:32):
Oh that would be great. Yeah, I'll see what I
can do to convince him. But like I said, he's
he's always felt that he was crazy for telling it
until I told him mine and then he was like.
To find him speechless is amazing. He's a way better

(01:05:53):
storyteller than I am. I can't believe you've actually walked
me through this long enough. As long as you have,
his would be a two minute story, so you'd have
to kind of walk him through it too. But yeah,
I'd love to hear his full story in a podcast. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:06:12):
Absolutely, Well, if he tells it soon, I'll just put
it on this same podcast, and I think that would
be really cool.

Speaker 2 (01:06:19):
Okay, well, I'll do my best to convince him, sir.

Speaker 1 (01:06:22):
Yeah, and one last question before we wrap it up.
Was there a like famous waterway nearby other than the creek.
Where does the creek pour into? Is there a certain
river or a big lake nearby around here?

Speaker 2 (01:06:39):
The closest thing you're gonna find is Lake Watery, And
you know, water always runs downhill and it's going to
find its way to a lake. That would be the
biggest body of water that I would say, you'd have
the ability to at least explain to that creek runs
to is Lake Watery somehow? But when I tell you

(01:07:01):
this is a creek, this thing was only you know,
I'm six eight inches deep at the most, probably three
foot wide. It wasn't anything huge.

Speaker 1 (01:07:12):
Yeah, but they follow the waterways whenever they spook. And
that's what the sasquatch did that I told you about.
He was heading towards the creek.

Speaker 2 (01:07:23):
Yeah. It's probably a good source of food because we
do have even not being in the in the low country,
we do have crawdads, you know, we do have we
do have fish.

Speaker 1 (01:07:36):
Yeah. I just think they used the waterways as trails,
highways and roads, and it leads them to bigger forests.

Speaker 2 (01:07:45):
I would agree. And this guy had I'll text you
after this and I'll I'll actually go on Google Earth
and look up the address that way, it helps you
a little bit. And I'm I'm sure it's going to
be a more recent picture than it was, you know,
back in ninety six, ninety seven, and you can kind
of there is nothing but forest behind these Turkey grms. Okay,

(01:08:06):
so they had an entire an entire you know, two
hundred acres that my uncle owned, and then god forbid
what was on the other side of it just just
pined to run and roam on their own day. There
was nobody there. There's no houses, no, no nothing, no roads,
no nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:08:27):
Yeah. Absolutely in South Carolina was it had a lot
of forests back in the day. And it wasn't until
here recently that people really started populating the areas in
South Carolina due to people moving away from like New
York and California. But yeah, it's definitely a lot different
in the nineties.

Speaker 2 (01:08:44):
Yeah, this was this was just a free bomb. I
fully understand why he was back there. I get it.
I would have been there too, if that's the way
I had to live. But that brings up the point again.
He was just surprised to see me as I was
to see him.

Speaker 1 (01:09:03):
Yeah, absolutely, and don't let it ruin the forest. For you,
don't let it ruin hunting. I would get back out
there and slowly put your feet back in the water.

Speaker 2 (01:09:11):
Man. Oh no, not at all. We have a place
here we call the Moonlight Lounge, and it is a
huge flat tabletop that comes off of a railroad track,
and I'll go sit out there some nights and just
watch the stars. Now that doesn't mean I'm not armed,
but I will go sit out there. And like I said,
it's never bothered me. It's never really scared me of

(01:09:34):
the woods because I forgot about it until, you know,
a week ago, So it's never really crossed my mind.
All the weird sounds that the woods make. I know them.
I've been there. I've heard coyotes cry, I've heard them
talk to each other and all of that. I've just
never seen anything like I seen that morning. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:09:56):
Absolutely, And James, I appreciate you for making the report
on sasquatch theory. It certainly helps out the channel, and
I know it helps out other people who have had
encounters just like yours. And Yeah, if you ever see
anything else in the future, definitely feel free to reach
out to me and Hopefully I hear from your brother soon.

Speaker 2 (01:10:13):
Yeah, fingers crossed. I don't ever see anything like that again, Miguiel,
but I definitely appreciate your time, buddy.

Speaker 1 (01:10:19):
Thank you, yep, thank you so much, and you have
an excellent fourth of July. My friend, you do the
same search Stay safe, yep, you too, love it all right.
That was James from South Carolina sharing an unforgettable encounter
that's still handsome to this day. From red eyes in
the dark to the fear of being pulled from his
deer stand, this story reminds us just how close these

(01:10:41):
creatures may be. If you've had your own bigfoot or
crypted experience, email me. I'd love to hear from you.
Make sure to subscribe a Sasquatch Theory on YouTube, Spotify
and all the other podcast platforms. I've heard a lot
of reports where people mentioning the creature laughing at him,
or it had a smirk on its face. Maybe they

(01:11:02):
think it's funny scaring the heck out of us. A
lot of people mention that with dog Man as well,
that it had this smirk on its face like ha ha,
what are you gonna do now? Like they know they
have the upper hand, and they obviously do something that's
ten foots tall, hulking huge, can easily snap you in half.

(01:11:25):
And it's just scary to think that somebody is trapped
in a deer stand with these with the creature like
this around, what would you do? Would you take a
shot on it or would you just let it go?
I feel like it's best just to let it go
unless it charges you and it's trying to get you.
Of course, defend yourself, but it's best to leave these

(01:11:47):
things alone because you don't know what they're capable of.
And they also travel in a clan, so if you
take one down, you have many others to worry about,
all right, I appreciate everyone for watching and until the
next encounter, you guys, be safe out in the woods.
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