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September 6, 2025 56 mins
In this episode of Sasquatch Theory, I sit down with Mike from Central Florida — a Marine and Army veteran who has had incredible encounters with the unexplained.

Bigfoot in Canada: While training with Canadian forces, Mike and his unit heard wood knocks and whoops that the soldiers referred to as “the Old Man in the Woods.”

Dogman in Florida: During a late-night hunt in the swamps, Mike came face-to-face with a Dogman sniffing the air below his tree stand.

UFO in Afghanistan: On gun turret patrol, Mike witnessed a massive triangular UFO pacing his platoon before shooting straight up into the sky.

Other Experiences: Mike has also encountered mysterious orbs overseas, a possible Skinwalker in Oklahoma, UAPs that defy physics, and chilling growls that his grandfather later identified as Dogman. His friend also had an aggressive Skunk Ape encounter in the Ocala National Forest.

This episode is a mix of cryptid encounters, military experiences, and paranormal events that challenge our understanding of reality.

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Welcome back to Sasquatch Theory, the podcast where we dive
deep into encounters with bigfoot, dog man, UFOs, and all
things unexplained. In today's episode, we're joined by Mike from
Central Florida, a marine and Army veteran who has had
some truly extraordinary experiences, from training with Canadian forces and

(00:26):
hearing bigfoot activity, to a terrifying dog man encounter in
the Florida swamps to witnessing a UFO in Afghanistan. Mike
stories span from cryptids, UAPs, and the paranormal. Get ready
for a powerful and chilling conversation you won't forget. If
you enjoy listening to unexplained mysteries, be sure to subscribe

(00:47):
to the channel like the video and common down below,
And of course, if you have a bigfoot or crypti
encounter you would like to share with me here on
the channel, please feel free to get in touch with
me at Sasquatch Theory at outlook dot com. With all
that being said, let's dive into Mike's terrifying encounters from
the state of Florida, spanning all the way into the
Canadian wilderness. All right, Mike, Welcome to sasquatch theory. How

(01:25):
are you doing today.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
I'm great.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
Faring yourself, I'm doing excellent. It's an absolute pleasure to
have you on the show. Mike. If you would tell
me a little bit about yourself, where you're from, and
your bigfoot encounters and experiences from the very beginning, please.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
Okay. I'm Mike. I'm from Central Florida. I'm in the military,
being in for twin five years. I was in the
Marine Corps, first got hurt, got out, and joined the Army,

(02:07):
so I've been there for totally twenty four going on
twenty five years career. I'm pretty high in the ranks,
that's all I got to say. I'm a hunt when
I get a chance, and I do a lot of shooting,
and I do a lot of survivalist training, military and

(02:31):
my personal I one of my one of my encounters,
I was in Canada. I came remember what day. I
remember that it was twenty seventeen and we was training
with the Canadians and it was on a foot patrol

(02:52):
and all of a sudden I heard like knocks, wooden knocks,
and a couple who and I was talking to my
Canadian counterpart, like what is that. He said, that's the
old man in the woods. Like, what you mean, old

(03:13):
man in the woods? Is it a hermit or something
or crazy person? So no, it's a bigfoot. I'm like,
oh okay, And he was like he don't mess with you.
Don't mess with him. So we kept on doing our

(03:35):
routine foot patrol. So I heard him for about forty
five minutes here give and take one knocks, then across
the other side where the same thing. So I guess
there was communicating with each other, telling him like, hey,
we see some guys walking around, probably and probably like

(04:00):
a couple of years honestly, about three years ago. It's
a place in Florida called a green Swamp. I was,
I was hunting.

Speaker 3 (04:13):
And.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
I know it's a big for the channel, but I
ran across a dog man. So I was hunting. I
was hunting. It was probably like three thirty in the morning,
by myself. I do the one went by myself, and
I had thermos on. So I'm sitting up in the
tree stand and all of a sudden, you know, the crookeds,

(04:40):
the animals, no noise. It was dead silence, and I
heard some tree break, well, branches breaking leaves, and I
turned around, scanned my sector. I've seen a dog man.
He was on all fours. He was like blackish, he

(05:05):
was all on force. He stood up upright sniffing the air.
He hold his He was like leaning, how can I
say it, leaning by the tree, like sniffing the air,
probably trying to sniff me, I don't know, sniffing something.
And all of a sudden he looked towards me. I'm

(05:29):
probably like one hundred and fifty feet away from the animal.
He looked, and I see his teeth. And also he
just got back on a forest took off. Never seen
him or nothing. So after that point, I got back

(05:52):
on my ATV, a hotel, a lot of the hotel,
back to my vehicle and got a you know, a
whole story. You want to hear it?

Speaker 1 (06:10):
Oh yeah, absolutely, Okay, I can't.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
I can't tell you the the year, but it was
in Afghanistan. That was like my second tour Afghanistan, doing
patrols and stuff like that, trying to find whatever, Taliban
whatever intel. And I was up in the gun turn.

(06:41):
We'll switching out. I was up in a gun turn
to be on gunner, and I was scanning my sectors
I've seen Triangle UFO going and the mountains. But then

(07:03):
all of a sudden, it popped up probably like four
hundred the five hundred yards on my right side, just
keeping pace with us. So I thought it was going crazy.
So I have called down into the truck, Hey, do

(07:24):
you have any we call them fast movers like helicopters
and stuff aircrafts in the area. It's like, no, we're
all green green. So it's clear they're like why, but no, no,
no reason. All of a sudden it just popped straight
up and disappeared. So on the way back we had

(07:51):
to get by a spill untel. What happened? What happened?
So some guys pulled me over, pulled me to the side, like, hey,
what did you see there? I was like, I see nothing.
It was like, good answer, you have a long career
in the military, Roger that, sir. I kept it to

(08:12):
myself and stuff. I mean, I ran across out in
my hobby desert for Fort Irwin, California. You know, do
desert training. Prepare yourself for going overseas. I've seen orbs

(08:43):
just like middle of nowhere, Just like I see orbs,
They're like appear disappear, appear, disappear, and you know it
was like a couples seeing uh seen the orbs, and
you know, we couldn't explain it because somebody was like, oh,

(09:05):
this is flares or somebody with a flashlight. Like okay,
you say so, but there's a lot of creepy stuff
go over there and Fort Irwin, I heard, but I
heard something about big foot running around there, stuff like that.
But I'm not sure.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
Yeah, what else?

Speaker 2 (09:27):
M I mean, my my best friend he had ran
across a skunk. He was in Okay, Okay of National Force.

(09:53):
He was the hunting with his family. It happened like
months ago, eight months ago. There was out of camping
and he told me that he's he smelled the first
but then he got visual, probably like five two minutes later,

(10:17):
he tells Bipad about six feet very aggressive shaking, like
shaking like the trees. Him and his family just loaded
up the sub and hotel.

Speaker 3 (10:37):
I mean, what else, say, uh, what else have you experienced?

Speaker 2 (10:51):
I think I ran across the I think I saw
a skinwalker. I'm not sure. I'm still I'm still debating
because I was in Oklahoma at a base and I've

(11:13):
seen this guy walking, and I was like, it was
like in the woods. I was doing like some military
land land navigation, and I'm like, why this guy's out here,
Why this dude out here? This was this military installation.
So he had just like regular clothes on and I'm

(11:40):
watching him, watching him, watching him. He ain't see me.
I'm watching him. All of a sudden, he went into
like this bush bushes, damn came out. It was like
a it was like a call it some type of

(12:10):
like a little bobcat took off running. So I don't
know he was a skin walker or that was just whatever.
So I'm still debating on that one.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
Yeah, so you think the guy turned into an animal?

Speaker 2 (12:34):
Correct, Yes, yes, I think he did.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
Yeah, that's terrifying. I've heard similar reports in the past, so.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
That's it's kind of weird. So, I mean, I was like,
like I said, I was just doing land was doing
land navigation, and I was pretty far out, and like
I said, he ran into the into the bushes and
then bottlecat came out running running away. But I never

(13:08):
told nobody. I just kept it to myself.

Speaker 3 (13:16):
And stuff.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
So I figured I'll just shared with you.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
Well, I appreciate that mic, what else?

Speaker 2 (13:28):
What else I'm seeing?

Speaker 3 (13:33):
Mum m m.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
I mean I've seen a couple of UAPs UFOs over
we're gonna call it, and stuff like most of like
training wise, like be out in the desert somewhere or
woods and you see glances and stuff like that because

(13:58):
you know something, objects should not move like that, especially
like a aircraft.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
Yes, so they were removing a high rate of speed.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
Yes, like a high rate of speed. Then it just stopped.
Also just stopping hubbled for a second. Just rotate, they'll rotate.
They all sudden. It's just like shoot up straight or
shoot up to a forty five degree. It's like, yeah,

(14:32):
it's different, it's different. It's different. Let's see. I remember
I was a young boy. The thing. I was eight
and nine. My grandfather he was a ranch hand, and

(14:55):
we was going on one time and and out in
the woods many acres and basically he was a cowboy.
So we went hunting, and I remember I heard some
growls and some noises, and my grandfather wasn't back of me,

(15:18):
just pushing me along, like come on, come on, come on,
let's go. Let's go. Let's go, let's go, let's go,
let's go. Let's go. So he's pushing me get back
to the to the truck and I and I asked him, like,
what was that noise? And he never said nothing. He
was like, it was just an animal. So down the road,

(15:41):
when I got a little older, he told me it
was they called it on a ranch. Uh, a wild weasel.
There is a wild weasel. So he finally told me

(16:02):
the description. It was like canine, probably like seven feet tall,
twenty years of long snout, snouts, stuff like that. Basically,
it was a dog man, but not the There was

(16:23):
a dog man that looked like the hyena version of
the dog man, and that kind of blew my mind.
God know, he's been doing ranching for many, many years.
I'm wonder how many accounters as he ran across and
never told nobody.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. I'm sure he's
ran into this creature in the past, especially if he
knew what it was.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
Yeah. Yeah, So, because I ain't really getting into like
cryptis until you know, twelve thirteen years ago. That's when
I really started paying attention, like doing my research sightings,
and I mean there's a lot of stuff out here.

(17:19):
I mean, especially the was the ocean well, the ocean
been discover what of the ocean has been discovered? And
it's so much stuff out here. I mean, you don't
know what you're going to run across. I mean, I'm
a true believer. I've seen stuff. I mean, who knows,

(17:50):
who knows? Because the government finally a knowledge uap UFOs
back at what twenty twenty, twenty nineteen or something like that,
But at the time they always be ninety. But for
your listeners, I will open open mind. Don't be stuck

(18:14):
in the box. Thank out the box. There's a lot
of stuff out here, and I'm still learning. I mean,
I really don't have nothing else to talk about.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
Okay, Mike, Well, I appreciate you for sharing your encounters
and your experiences, and I also want to thank you
for your service in the military.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
Okay, Hey, you're welcome.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
Yeah, absolutely, I know that's not easy to do. And yeah,
the things that you've experienced, I'm sure it's been hard
to process everything, especially since we're told that these things
don't exist. When you were training with the Canadians, were
you in Canada when that happened.

Speaker 2 (19:03):
Yes, sir, Yes, I was in Wayne, right, Canada.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
Okay, and you guys were on foot patrol, and these
creatures began to communicate with wood knocks and whoops. How
far apart were these two groups of sasquatch? Were they
from like one side of the mountain to the other,
or one side of the valley.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
To the h Yeah, like like one of the level
well on the right, you know, like probably about a
couple of hundred yards out, because you know, I hear
clearly like whoop, whoop, whoop. Then you hear the you know,
the wood knock, and you know, my hamster wheels is

(19:47):
turning like w t O like because you know, we
got blanks. I didn't get I mean, what was that
sasquatch got hostile? I got blinks besides besides a Rambo knife.
That's it. We just they like, like what the guy

(20:08):
was telling me. They don't bother nobody. It's just like
the observe and watch people watch. That's awk people watch.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
Yeah. Absolutely, they picked up on your guys' presence and
they are warning each other that there are humans with
firearms in the area.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
Yes, that's what I think. Plus you know they might
got pies out there. You know, they family members and
you know, hey, they probably they probably like scouts.

Speaker 3 (20:37):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (20:38):
Yeah, they're always on watch, and it's kind of kind
of similarly similar to people in the military. You have
people on post on guard duty, and they kind of
change positions, like one person will stay up till like
three in the morning, and then someone else comes and
takes his place. I feel like it's the same way
with the sasquatch.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
Exactly. That's that's that's how I feel. Oh yeah, I
mean it was a pleasant it was a pleasant experience.
It was not I had no drid or I wasn't scared.
I was just like surprised. That's all I heard about,
you know, sad squatches, big floos in Canada.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
M yeah, in the Canadian military, they were very aware
that these creatures exist and they're out there, and they
obviously have run into them in the past and possibly
engage with them. Because the guy told you, if you
don't mess with them, they won't mess with you.

Speaker 2 (21:36):
That's why I truly believe.

Speaker 1 (21:39):
Oh yeah, And a lot of people ask that question.
I wonder if the government knows about these creatures, if
they're suppressing the information. I believe that they certainly are.
There's no way they couldn't know, if average joes like
myself know about these things, why wouldn't the military, especially
when their military bases are way out in the middle
of nowhere next to national fours and they're out there

(22:00):
on patrol with like night vision thermals and all kinds
of different gear, How would they not run into these things?

Speaker 2 (22:08):
Exactly exactly. They're just trying to suppress the the public.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
Yeah, what do you think The reason is.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
Their producting. They probably think, you know, the public can't
handle the truth, They might go insane crazy.

Speaker 1 (22:32):
Yeah, the public's already going crazy, that's already happening. I'm
sure they don't want to expedite or yeah, make it
a little worse. People have a hard time processing just
regular emotions and feelings and beliefs, let alone the existence
of sasquatch UFOs the paranormal and confirming that religion may

(22:56):
possibly be reality.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
That's true.

Speaker 1 (23:02):
Yeah, do you believe that they're connected to the giants
and the Bible? They have something to do with the
Nephlum or the pre flood era. Do you have any
ideas about that or are you just kind of neutral
when it comes with U.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
I'm half and half. I believe it I believe, I
believe it. I'm kind of neutral. Half and a half. Yeah,
I mean, like, you know, like I heard, like some
people say that UNFOS dropped sasquatch off to do recon retail,
you know, recon and stuff. I don't believe in that far.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
Yeah. Yeah, it's it's a little out there when you
hear things like that. As far as the Bible or
ancient history, I mean a lot of things are hard
to believe. But then I start seeing things that the
Smithsonians are hiding giants and their remains, and then they're
scientists that are speaking openly about there being a global
flood and there's records of it all around the planet,

(24:04):
and the flood is what actually caused the ice age.
But it's it's hard to say. I mean, there is
scientific evidence behind it, but at the same time, the
stories sound a little far fetched.

Speaker 2 (24:16):
Yes, yes, do you believe? I heard? I actually seen
a program. I forgot what the name of the program,
The bat Squatch. You're seeing that episode of the bat Squatch.

Speaker 1 (24:28):
I have not seen it, but I've heard of it.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
I don't believe it, though, ding Batsquatch.

Speaker 1 (24:33):
Yeah, I mean, maybe like the Jersey devil or moth Man.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Jersey devil mouth Man. But the bat
squatch come mm hmm, yeah, I don't believe.

Speaker 1 (24:44):
In It reminds me of that. I do believe in
goat Man because I've interviewed a lady. I think she
was in Pennsylvania, somewhere on the east coast, and her
and her family were camping out of cabin and this
thing kicked the front door open, and she said everyone
was screen man. She said to have glowing right eyes.
But I mean she was very sincere. She didn't miss

(25:05):
a beat. It was the same story that she told
me before the podcast. And I've heard stories of the
goat Man before I ever got into the paranormal cryptids.
Around here, there's a place called goat Man Grave, and
I've always heard stories about it. I definitely believe like
it's something from hell, and I kind of believe that
with the dog Man encounters, I feel like that's something

(25:26):
straight from hell.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
What do you think, oh Man, What do I think
about the dog Man? I mean, some people said it
was a government. A government. The government created it and
they released it in the while try to try to

(25:55):
maintain it. That heard, they made them for war, like
the fight I am in these oldseas, and it's so
much stuff with the dog Man. I mean, I don't
know where to hear the dog come from. You might
come from Hell. He might come from us, you know,
from the scientists creating the dog man. I mean, I

(26:17):
just know as as one want to go against.

Speaker 1 (26:21):
Oh, yeah, for sure. And we see this genetical manipulation
all throughout history, whether it's from the Greeks, other ancient civilizations,
the Egyptians and like we did about earlier. Yeah, like
in the Bible, you know, they talk about these half
man half beasts, and yeah, we're kind of seeing it today.

(26:42):
So maybe it's like a remnants of dog man sasquatch
from the ancient days and we're seeing them today. And
it could be possible that the government is re engineering
these things. I don't think they created them, because there's
already been talk about them way before our government was
ever even established, especially technologically.

Speaker 2 (27:03):
Yeah, I can see that point. But I can see
that point.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
I don't know. I mean when I say from Hell,
just because of how evil this thing is, and I've
heard a lot of encounter stories from people, the glowing
red eyes. It's trying to get people, and I don't know,
I just feel like it's it's not good. Is that
the impression that you got when you saw this dog
man creature? I mean that it was evil or just

(27:31):
up to no good, like it would definitely make you disappear.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
Well, he did show this teeth. He ain't really well
smile call it a smile. He really was aggressive towards me.
He just think you. Actually he was on the hunt.
He was probably trying to hunt. So you know, we
got all the wild pigs run around here. You might

(27:58):
try to find him some food. And I was at
the right place at the wrong time per se. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
Absolutely, you set up that deer stand there because you've
seen wildlife activity there in the past. You probably set
off next to like a game trail, and this thing
was coming down the pipe looking for its next meal.
And then it picked up on your present, your presence,
like something hit hit his senses and he stopped, threw
his nose up in the air and started sniffing and

(28:31):
got closer to the tree and then pinpointed your your
exact spot.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
Yeah, I mean I had him, did your rights, I
had I had my art, so I haven't did the rights,
so you would have got me. I would LOLd at
least thirty rounds off of twenty rounds off.

Speaker 1 (28:51):
Did the thought ever cross your mind?

Speaker 2 (28:56):
I had. I had my gun, my right to read.
But he's, like I said, he ain't show no aggress
He wasn't aggressive, so I ain't want to kick him off.
I pointed at him. You know what I'm saying. He
might be you know, no animals are smart, and I

(29:17):
ain't want to cause no no ruckus. So I just
had that to ready, so just in case he would
have charge, I had enough time to pull up, pull
my weapon up, and engage.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
Absolutely in these creatures traveling packs, and I feel like
the other pack members picked up on your presence way
before you did. He's the one that shipped up, So
if you would have took some shots on him, you
would have had the others to deal with possibly. And
I've heard that it takes a lot of shots to
take down a dog man, and most of the time

(29:52):
they don't go down. People don't don't find them even
if they drop, like when they go and look for it,
it's just gone.

Speaker 3 (30:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
Yeah, like you know, like the big Foot, they carried
that dead off so you want to have no, you
want to have no proof or you know, sasquatch died
or got killed, they plan to retrieved the body and
take the body.

Speaker 1 (30:22):
Yeah, it's a good thing.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
No, no, no, no, it was like it wasn't like
I mean, I was nervous, just scared a little bit.
But then my military train and kicked in and I'm
not going to gauge to engage me. And he's, like
I said, the counter lasted about a minute minute or so.

(30:51):
Uh and after he got my call force, he just
sob ran back to his pack mates out.

Speaker 1 (31:00):
How tall do you think this dog man creature was
when it stood up on two legs?

Speaker 2 (31:07):
Actually, when he left, I went older and measured, so
I'm six foot. This guy was about seven and seven
and a quarter maybe seven and a half. If I
had pounds pounds he got at least be about four

(31:33):
hundred pounds, maybe between four and four fifty range.

Speaker 1 (31:40):
Wow, Yeah, that's a huge creature. Was it really stocky
or was it blinky?

Speaker 2 (31:47):
It was like his bilt was like kind of lean,
but his shoulders was kind of big, but he was
like more lean, like an athletic lean and stuff.

Speaker 1 (32:09):
Was it a jet black color.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
Yes, it was jet like, yes, sir, okay.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
And did it have really long pointed years or shorter
pointed ears that.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
There were real long point in years okay? And what
did you said, like a German shepherd?

Speaker 1 (32:34):
Okay, like a German shepherd. And did you notice anything
about the arms, like the fingers.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
I couldn't really get a good look at his digits,
like I said, he was like holy tree hugging kind
of sort of so.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
Away too.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
Yeah, so I can really get a good I know
he was a meal. I've seen his genitals okay.

Speaker 1 (33:06):
And was this early in the morning or in the evening?
I think you said morning right.

Speaker 2 (33:10):
More in a time it was like between I just
get it, probably two or three in the morning.

Speaker 1 (33:16):
Oh wow, Yeah you mentioned that. Man, that's freaky okay.
And you could hear like branches breaking and the sound
of this creature walking on the leaves.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
Yes, yes, because because like before that, I heard the
crickets and stuff and you know the night sounds. Also
it just got quiet. Also I heard the a couple
of seconds later, branches breaking, leaves crunching and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (33:54):
Yeah, that's spooky. And maybe it was trying to sneak
up on you. But it doesn't sound I don't like
it because, like you said, it realized you were there
after you already saw the creature.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
I think you just want to get up. I heard
somewhere the doll man get a kick out of just
scanning the crap at you. Yeah, he was probably trying
to scare me. But like I said, I was scared nervous.

(34:30):
But like I said, the military training tactics kick this
on stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (34:38):
Yeah, in this UFO encounter that you had in Afghanistan,
it took off and disappeared into the mountains, and then
all of a sudden, it was on your right side
and it kind of followed you guys for a while,
is that correct?

Speaker 2 (34:51):
Yes, yes, sir, for like a three minutes maybe tops.
I mean I was just watching and watching and just
watching it, and that's why I called down to see
if we have any helicopters aircrafts in the area. And

(35:13):
it was green, all green green. It was like nothing
right now.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
And they told you not to talk about it pretty much.
What made you want to open up and publicly talk
about this?

Speaker 2 (35:30):
Uh? Why not? People need to know? I wish the
government will just be honest with the American people. UFOs
are real. Yes, the things go bumping to night, you know,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
Yeah, I get tired of it.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
I get tired of politics.

Speaker 1 (35:53):
Oh yeah, yeah. It's a back and forth struggle and
there's never a resolution. And I don't know, I don't
like the tug of war effect. But I've seen the
black triangle before. It actually hovered over my house and
it was huge, and it had three bright lights, one
on each side and one of the one of the

(36:13):
lights was brighter than the rest. Did you notice anything
like that, like these whitish blue lights I seen.

Speaker 2 (36:20):
Well, well, I was looking through the not my vision doubles.
I've seen like the when it like dip a little bit.
I've seen the belly. It was like in the middle
was a beat yellow yellow light and on the triangle
side was like red lights.

Speaker 1 (36:46):
Okay, yeah, everyone describes the lights a little different, but
I have heard that description before. And I don't know
what do you think it was up to? Why do
you think it came back?

Speaker 2 (37:00):
Uh? My opinion. You know, we have war, so they
might they might be curious about why we fight each other,
why human beings destroying each other? Probably probably doing a
recon just to get intel what's going on? Yeahs passing

(37:28):
back to their mothership or whoever in command.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
Yeah, I would agree with that. What do you think
the orbs are that you saw overseas? I know they
said it was possibly flares, but what what are your
thoughts on that? Like, what did you think after processing
what you encountered, and what do you believe today?

Speaker 2 (37:52):
I would I just leave some type of a paranormal
supernatural to be honest with you. I mean, I know
the difference from a flare to a flashlight. And I
heard all the different podcasts and I'm ran across a
couple friends of mine. They seem blowing blowing orbs and stuff,

(38:14):
So it's paranormal.

Speaker 1 (38:18):
Yeah, I would agree with that. I've seen the same
thing and it's definitely paranormal, especially like when they disappear
and then reappear in another area and I don't know,
it just doesn't seem doesn't seem right, and it almost
seems more technological, but still on the supernatural side.

Speaker 2 (38:36):
Yes, yes, Yes.

Speaker 1 (38:39):
And your friend that was camping with this family in
the Ocala National Forest, they smelled the creature first and
then moments later they encountered it.

Speaker 2 (38:52):
Yes, it's like you spelled like run trash and garbage
song like Landfield. He was telling me like he smelled
it first and a few a few minutes, a few minutes,
he had a visual and he was the skunkke was

(39:14):
basically by the tree, like shaking the tree, making all
his noise mean, I'm so long you shoot him. And
he was like at the time his deer rifles in
the truck, well they should be. So his main thing

(39:35):
was they may get my wife and my kids into
the vehicle and get the hell out of there.

Speaker 1 (39:45):
Yeah, that's definitely terrifying. It was certainly being territorial since
it was shaking the tree around and it made its presence.
And possibly that smell is like them releasing this pheromone
when they when they're disturbed, when they're angry, when they're upset.

Speaker 2 (40:02):
Yeah, I heard it. I heard it.

Speaker 1 (40:04):
Also, So the skin walker in Oklahoma. You watched this
guy walk in and he had no idea you were there,
and he went behind a bush and then out came
what what seemed to be like some like a bobcat,
some sort of creature.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
Ye like, yeah, I like some kind of Bobcat and
just took off running up the trail.

Speaker 1 (40:32):
Mhmm, yeah, that's freeking.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
I I was kind of freaked out. My my common
sense was like I should walk over there and investigate, see,
you know, did he shred his clothes or stuff like that.
But the other side was the other side of me
was like, only that guy is a knife. Hey, you

(40:55):
got no fire no firepower, so I took off.

Speaker 1 (41:00):
Yeah. It makes me wonder if any critter I've seen
in the past out in the forest could have possibly
been a skinwalker. I mean that's really hard to figure out,
but I guess you never know if these things can
turn into animals.

Speaker 2 (41:15):
Yes, yes, I mean who knows, I mean skinwalkers we
ran across in the woods.

Speaker 1 (41:31):
Yeah, it makes you wonder. And the experience that you
had in Canada that that sounds like a long one.
You said it went on for like forty five minutes,
and that's a long time, and I'm sure you definitely
had time to process what was going on because it
lasted so long.

Speaker 2 (41:49):
Yeah, I mean I processed. I was just like really,
I mean, it was like just kept on communicating, communicating,
and the guy who the guy was with, he was
just like nonchalant, like, don't worry, don't worry, They're not
gonna hurt you, okay. And we got back to the

(42:16):
to the all the mid our base and he's nonchalant
telling his his Canadian brothers and sisters what happened. And
my side was looking at me, like what happened? And

(42:40):
you know, I explained what happened. You know, everybody just
like shook their head like yeah, right, Like probably like
three people, all of from my side, believe me. The
other one was like, I ain't real. That's fake. That's
somebody out there playing a prank on you, on your guys.

Speaker 1 (43:07):
Yeah, well, these things are definitely real. And it's pretty
interesting to hear that the Canadians were pretty open about
the subject and the US military was more closed minded.
And that has to do with the suppression and what
we're being told.

Speaker 2 (43:29):
Exactly. I believe that. I don't know why, but that's
how it is.

Speaker 1 (43:39):
Yeah, And you mentioned you're an outdoorsman. Do you still
get out in the woods and hunt camp and look
for anything, I mean just going out there hiking in general?
Do you still do all that?

Speaker 2 (43:51):
Uh? You, sir, I won't get a chance. I'll still
go there sometimes. I just like to go out there
and nature, just listen to the sounds.

Speaker 1 (43:59):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (44:01):
It don't have to be about I go a hide
and go bag me a deer, bag me a while
pig or something. It was like, I just like outdoors.
It's peaceful. Somewhat.

Speaker 1 (44:14):
It's peaceful, Yeah, until you're running a dog man.

Speaker 2 (44:19):
Yeah or big fool whatever.

Speaker 3 (44:23):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (44:25):
I'm sure you're always listening and looking for a sign
when you're out there, after the experiences that you've had.

Speaker 2 (44:32):
Yes, I do. I mean I still keep my head,
keep my head on school, and you know, if I
see something, try to investigate it. And like I said,
I'm open minded. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (44:50):
Have you heard any encounters from other people in the
military or do they just not talk about it?

Speaker 2 (44:58):
Mm hmmm. I got very I got two buddies. They
had when we went to Texas. They went for the

(45:21):
Texas I can't remember what part. I know they went
on the camping trip and they ran across what is
that crypt the Bloodsucker come from Mexico.

Speaker 1 (45:45):
I'm not sure. I don't know if I've heard of that.

Speaker 2 (45:50):
Yes, it's where it's where they they saw one running.

Speaker 1 (45:59):
Yeah, I believe that there's been people here in Missouri
that have seen it. One of my friends, he's actually
a police officer. He set me a trail cam photo
of one, and it definitely looks like one. It doesn't
look like a coyote, and it doesn't look like a
hog like it looks like a chepocabra.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
Yeah, yeah, I know. I hope I never run across one.

Speaker 1 (46:23):
Did they say if it was aggressive or did it
just go its own way?

Speaker 2 (46:28):
It just went his own way?

Speaker 1 (46:30):
Yeah, I would imagine with how loocid they are.

Speaker 2 (46:34):
Yeah, at the time, dude was fishing and it was
running across the bank.

Speaker 1 (46:46):
Yeah, that's freaky. Do you believe the possibly the dog man,
the sasquatch, the UAPs, that it's all somehow connected in
somewhere or another.

Speaker 2 (46:59):
Yes, yes, yes, it's just like you know, was it
the Rallswell crashed? Was it was it nineteen forty seven
or something like that. Yeah, and how they cover up like, oh,
it's a weather balloon. At first the military said it

(47:22):
was a UFO. All of a sudden, it's a weather balloon.

Speaker 1 (47:27):
Yeah, there's no mistaking the two, especially with the military,
and they had it was on the news for three
days and then they took it off and said it
was a weather balloon.

Speaker 2 (47:38):
That's so yeah. I mean we got the government, we
got our hands in the cookie jar per se, but
they're not gonna tell you me or the other, uh
anybody else. I mean, I got it, I got it clearance,

(48:05):
need to know why. I need to know, But I
ain't got that higher up clarence, you know, dive deep
into the paranormal supernatural stuff.

Speaker 1 (48:18):
Oh yeah. I just kind of picture like Area fifty
one being like the Crystal Cave that Superman's in, and
down there there's like triangle UFOs and alien bodies and
dog man sasquatch creatures and they're studying all these things.
I don't know, that's just how I feel. I gotta

(48:39):
I got a wild imagination.

Speaker 2 (48:47):
Yeah, I mean, I mean I believe it's UNIFO on
the world basis somewhere.

Speaker 1 (49:02):
That would be the place. I mean, how would somebody
look for an underground base underneath the ocean? It's not
accessible to humans.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
Right, and especially like what antarctical or by the Black
Pyramid stuff like that. I mean, there's so much stuff
out here.

Speaker 1 (49:28):
Oh yeah, for sure. If these things are from the
pre flood era. Antarctica would be the spot to look
as it's still melting or still covered by ice, so
it would hold secrets that have been well preserved for many,
many years and not exposed to human life.

Speaker 2 (49:49):
Exactly. It's just like well, the Egyptians they ran across UFOs.
I mean, I mean you can see it on the ruins,
the pictures and all the other stuff, the paintings. I mean,
come on, people, m yeah.

Speaker 1 (50:11):
And also with the pre flood era, they said it
was like a one world government, and the more I
learned about the Egyptians, it seems like they were a
global power, not just in Egypt. And I mean there's
conspiracies about that. Like in the Grand Canyon they found
the Egyptian like remains and no one's allowed to go there.

(50:32):
There's always like black helicopters hovering over the area. People
talk about the Black Pyramid in Alaska and Antarctica, and
they're finding pyramids all around the world. And I don't
feel like that's random, like the Mayan Pyramids and the
Egyptian pyramids that they randomly made similar structures. I feel
like that might be like a global thing.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
It is it is.

Speaker 3 (50:57):
It is just like you know.

Speaker 2 (51:01):
The kew the nine Era fifty one. Oh, there's no
air fifty one. There's no one they finally a knowledge.
Oh yes, it's a fifty one. And also is the
Era fifty two was the right Parison Air Force base.
I mean, there's so much stuff out here.

Speaker 1 (51:24):
Oh yeah, for sure. Isn't that where they took the
the beans that they found from the Roswell incident to
right Patterson and then they took them to Area fifty one.

Speaker 2 (51:34):
Yep, yep, I read that somewhere. Yep.

Speaker 1 (51:39):
Yeah. I'm not sure about the exact details, but it's
definitely all connected. There's underground bases, missing people, missing time,
cryptid creatures, and all kinds of things taking place right
underneath our noses.

Speaker 2 (51:54):
Exactly, okay, exactly.

Speaker 1 (51:58):
Yeah, and yeah, I definitely. I want to mention that
I have heard a dog man before. I'm not sure
if I seen one, though, I'll tell you about the
time I heard it. I was about I don't know,
twelve years old, and I had the window open. It
was in the summertime, and in the tree line in
the woods, I heard this thing growl, and I mean
it was the most guttural, how demonic sound I've ever

(52:20):
heard in my life, And it sounded like a Hollywood werewolf,
but on steroids, super deep and guttural. It was just terrifying.
And then after it howled, it tapered off with like
a scream, like a woman screaming like it sounded like
a woman being tortured. And I don't know if now
that I know what I know, maybe like this dog
man ran into a sasquatch or these things can scream too,

(52:43):
which I've heard that about dog Man. That they make
structures as well, they break branches, they follow people, they
mimic and it sounds like Bigfoot activity.

Speaker 2 (52:54):
It does, it does.

Speaker 1 (52:56):
Yeah, they're very similar. Yeah. And the creature that I
saw me and my buddy this was in high school
and we were driving down a state highway and he
was gonna hit a possum. He saw it way down
the highway. He turned on his brides and he stepped

(53:16):
on the pedal and as we were getting close to
the possum, this creature on all fours leaped out of
the forest into the middle of the highway and threw
this past like picked the possum up with its mouth
threw it up in the air and then shook it
around like a rag doll and then tore back off
into the woods. But this thing was built like a lion.
It was huge. It had the head of a hyena

(53:38):
and like the body of a pit bull or like
a male lion from Africa. And I mean it was
it was huge. It was stacked. But it had like
this I don't know, like this maine around its neck
like I always described like a tou tube, but I
don't know. It had a like hair around its neck
like a lion basically, but more like a two two

(53:59):
I don't know how to explain it, like a ballerina girl,
but hair around its neck. But people say that's a
that's a hell hound. But now I wonder if a
hell hound is a dog man. And I've heard scientists
talk about these werewolf creatures and they said it was
very possible back in the Ice Age for these werewolf

(54:21):
creatures to stand up on their hind legs because the
prairie grass, the prairie grass was really tall, and they
would they developed the skill to stand up to see
beyond the grass. I don't know if that's true, but
it makes you wonder.

Speaker 2 (54:40):
That's interesting.

Speaker 1 (54:42):
Yeah, it is, and I'm certainly glad that you were
willing to speak with me about these encounters. I hope
it was a good interview, and I mean, you definitely
did good. I just hope I did good.

Speaker 2 (54:52):
On my end.

Speaker 1 (54:53):
And yeah, I'm glad that we were able to speak.

Speaker 2 (54:57):
You did. I enjoyed it. I really here, I really
enjoyed it.

Speaker 1 (55:02):
Well, me too, And yeah, again, thank you for your
service and everything that you do, and also thank you
for openly talking about all this. And yeah, you're you
are definitely serving the people, protecting the people, and you're
doing great work, my friend.

Speaker 2 (55:23):
Hey, thank you very much.

Speaker 1 (55:25):
Absolutely, And if you run into anything else in the future,
I would certainly like to hear about it. A lot
of my guests later on in time, they run into
more things, so if you do, let me know, Okay,
I would like to hear about it.

Speaker 2 (55:39):
Yes, sir, I got you.

Speaker 1 (55:41):
All right, Mike, that's all for now, and I appreciate
your time.

Speaker 2 (55:45):
Okay, all right, you're welcome.

Speaker 1 (55:48):
You have a great Yeah you too, sir, take care
you too. Thank you for tuning into sasquatch theory. A
big thank you to Mike or sharing his encounters and
military experiences with us. If you enjoyed this episode, be
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(56:30):
in touch with me and share your own bigfoot or
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