Sasquatch Fight in the Forest – Encounter in (Clinton) South Carolina | Sumter National Forest - SASQUATCH THEORY

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Hey everyone, and welcome to another Sasquatch Theory podcast. On
today's episode, we have Travis from Clinton, South Carolina. His
bigfoot experiences took place in the Sumter National Forest. The
Sumter National Forest in South Carolina has been known for
a lot of strange activity, such as bigfoot creatures being

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seen in the area, dog men, and UFO activity. There
has also been reports of missing people in the area,
missing time, and other strange anomalies that people cannot explain.
Local residents have reported hearing these loud booms in the
sky that are known as skyquakes, and people have reported

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seeing these strange orbs all over the Carolinas. If you
guys enjoy listening to bigfoot encounters and strange mysteries like
the video, subscribe to the channel and calming down below.
And if you have a bigfoot encounter that you would
like to share with me, feel free to contact me
sometime at Sasquatch Theory at outlook dot com. With all
that being said, let's dive straight into Travis's bigfoot encounters

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from the state of South Carolina. All right, Travis, welcome
to Sasquatch Theory. How are you doing today?

Speaker 2 (01:25):
I'm doing pretty good, good, better than I could, you know,
better than that deserve, I guess. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
Absolutely. It's a pleasure to have you on the show, Travis.
If you would tell me a little bit about yourself
and your bigfoot encounters and experiences from the very beginning, please.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
Okay, let's see. I'm gonna start when I was a
little boy. I'm will say eight years old or so,
and we lived out in the Bombs Cross Road area,
not far from here. My grandpa owned a small micro
farm at cows and what not and grew small crops.

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And we would take a walk with my mom down
the long dirt road and we would go looking to
pick plums with their wild plums. We call them haul
plums you know around here. But they was good for
jellies and jams and stuff and just eating. So we
was walking along were bags and picking plums and things,

(02:24):
and there was you know, it's kind of reddish clay
and when it rains it, you know you step in it,
you're gonna leave a print. So it had the long rain.
But we came across this bear spot where it's clay,
and there was this gigantic footprint there that's like three

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times or four times bigger than a normal person's barefooted.
And as far as I remember, it had all the toes,
you know, and uh, and it was sunk down pretty deep.
I mean it was a massive footprint wide. And uh
we looked at uh we looked at it, me and
my brother and said, Mama, look at this. And she looked.

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She said, oh no, oh no, you know, and she
and all of a sudden she's looking around everywhere, you know,
looking through the bushes and stuff. And she said, boys,
come on, let's go now. She said, don't don't run,
just walk with me fast. And uh she walked us
very fast back home. We went inside and locked the door,

(03:29):
and she called my grandpa and uh, there's an old
guy that farmed the place, you know, the area out there,
you know. I said, well that's uh, that's old so
and so I'm not gonna mention his name because probably
got ken folks you know, still around. But uh and
but of course you know, he he had passed away

(03:49):
years back. But you know, he was like a big man,
a mountain of a man. But uh, he farmed barefooted
pretty much, you know. And uh, so that's you know,
mister Suwan. So he's probably paying a visit, and Mama says, no,
that it's not funny. You know, you need to go
look at that. You know, there's a there's a creature

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or a giant out here, you know. And so you know,
it kind of started from there and just little odd
and end things. And so let's go ahead and skip
forward up to more modern day. I got this property
and bought this property back in around nineteen ninety three,
I believe, and been out here ever since. And but

(04:33):
when I first got the property and all I had
got off work one day and came in and I
was exhausted, and so the kids and the wife they
had went to see her mom and all the visits.
So I had to place to myself. So it's total quiet, total,
you know, just quiet, and I just lean just laid
back into lun chair or whatever, and I was just

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you know, just letting my body calm down. And all
of a sudden, boom on the side of my mobile home.
I'm assuming it was one of them the Harry people
slapped the side of my mobile home so hard it
knocked the pictures off of the wall and scared me.
My reaction was, you know, I was on my feet,

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not knowing what to do. Scared instantly started trembling, and
I finally made my way to the window to look out.
There was nothing, nobody, nothing out there, and that terrified me.
And I also made you know, because it was a
metal side and it made a dent into the and
when it slapped my mobile home, I mean you can imagine.

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So the mobile home was about three foot off of
the ground and it slapped and made that dent up
toward the top, toward the roof. So it had to
be fourteen foot up to slap it like that, or
at least the hand so and then you know, through

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the years, things happened and stuff, and we would hear
knocks off in the distance, and back then I didn't
know what that was. You know, I'm like, what is that?
You know? Not here a knock every once in a while. Well,
we had what I call great woodpeckers, but there's we
had the little tanny woodpeckers too. With the big woodpeckers,

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I mean they sound like a jackhammer out there, and
I know what they are. Plus the little woodpeckers, well,
this was not woodpeckers. This was like a knock. One
knock or a knock knock, no more than two off
in a distance through the woods before the clear cut
all gets over beside downy. But it's growing up now again,

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of course, you know, in times. But so I saw
that was strange, you know, and stuff, and so time
went on rolled on, and so I just had a
feeling that, you know, I was always being watched out here.
I always kept my kids real close close by. I
wouldn't let them wonder off and things. So this is

(07:16):
in the earlier two thousands or late nineties, this incident happened.
My brother and I was out. We had like a
little small bonfire, and we was out, you know, having
a beer, you know, talking, no music or anything like that.

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My wife was inside and she says, I'll call you
when supper's done, y'all come in and eat, you know.
And when she says that, you know, everything shut down,
fire put out, you go in and eat. Right. Well,
we're standing out there, you know, talking and stuff, and
all of a sudden we started hearing grunts, growls and

(07:58):
roars across the astra down into the woods, and it
sounded like two of them going back and forth. And
then all of a sudden, they went to fighting down there.
And when I'm talking about roaring, I am talking about
something that is unearthly. I'm talking about you can mix

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the biggest bear, a lion, and maybe two or three
other big, giant, roaring predators together and it probably still
wouldn't do it justice. They roared so loud at each
other that you could feel the vibration in your chest
from a ways away. We felt it just vibrate through

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our body, and it made us feel very small, terrified
as me and my brother. Well, they went to hitting
each other and throwing I'm assuming throwing each other against trees,
beating each other. And when they would beat on each other,
it sound like like I don't know, like like a

(09:07):
pistol going out, pile pile pile, And they were grunting
and fighting and roaring and just tearing it up down there.
Never heard anything like that in my life. Like to
imagine two bull elephants down here in South Carolina fighting
in the woods, except with a lot of roaring and everything. Maybe, uh,
it's what it sounds like was going on in woods.

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So we walked to the edge where the pastor to
try to try to see or something but we didn't
have the lights and I was just moonlight. But we
could see just from the moonlight and stuff, uh that
some of the trees tops was shaking. Now these were
not great, big giant trees. They was you know, smaller
tree but still you know, the tops of them. You

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could see them shimmering every once in a while. With
all that fighting going on down there. And my dogs
they never barked, never growl or anything. They just in
front of our legs and wouldn't let us go any further.
And our dogs, my dogs actually started pushing us, like
pushing us back, pushing us back, and uh so we

(10:14):
moved on back and then my sister got off of
you know, we was out there so long. My sister
got off work on her shift. She came out to
hang out with us for a little bit. And uh,
we ran up to her car and said, I mean,
you've got to come in us. You've got to come
and hear this. And she ran over to where, you know,

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to the spot where we were standing, and she said,
what is that down there? I said, there's two monsters
down there. They they are down there fighting, and uh
that was unbelievable. I mean, I just can't put it
in words. How powerful and and and like I said,
the roaring, uh, you just vibrate through our bodies and everything.

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And so let's fast forward a ways. I ended up
in a divorce and everything like that. And I was
out here by myself, and to get better reception, I
walked outside back then this is probably an OH nine,

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and I was talking to my mom on the phone.
She just want to know how I'm doing this and that,
and I'm okay, mama, you know, and things, and all
of a sudden, these rocks started coming in on me
and landing fifteen foot in front of me and rolling
kind of up to me. But there was not big rocks.
They were rocks maybe the size of a golf ball.

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And you know, I have quartz out here. It's little
quartz rocks that you know, you can find here and there.
And one landed and I was just kind of dumbfounded,
and I said, Mama, rock just landed in yard. So
I'm looking at the sky like raining rocks, you know.
And another rock came. Then another rock came, but they

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never got close to me. It's always fifteen foot or
so away. And I said, Mama, I got to go
inside something outs here throwing rocks, and I knew for
a fact it was just me on this property. The
only I knew it. So I went inside, you know,
I stayed inside the rest of the evening. That never
happened again. But so a few years later we got

(12:35):
this horse. When my brother he had got the horse.
It was a rescue horse, big old, tall, walking horse.
I mean, he was a big rascal and uh he
was skinning bones. You know. We nursed him back to
help and got his muscle tone back, and when he

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got right, you know, we started riding. And he turned
out to be a great riding horse, and uh, very
well mannered and loved people. But he hated animals, dogs,
anything that would get into his pastor he would try
to chase it down and hoof it. You know. Uh
he was very territorial and so he didn't allow anything

(13:16):
in his pastor with him. But he, you know, like
I said, he loved people though. But uh I'd get
off of work and uh I'd walk over to the
gate and I'd call for him, you know, Jeb, come here, boy,
you know, and you hear him who putom boom boom boom,
and here he come running you know, because he knew

(13:37):
he's gonna get a brushing, his feet checked and get
fed and stuff, just food with you know. And so
that was a routine for us. And then one day,
uh it was a weekend. I got up one you know,
like on a Saturday morning, and so I walked out
just to go check on him and see a biting

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and called for him and he didn't come, and uh,
it's a strange you know. So I walked into the
pasture and I walked out to the backside and all
and there he lay dead on the in the middle,
in the middle of that that lot. And what I
seen was unbelievable. Uh. I didn't understand it. My mind

(14:19):
couldn't comprehend it. In my uncle and them that helped
me burying with tobacco, they didn't understand it either. But
it Uh, from what I know now, something had grabbed
him around the neck. And I got more of this
story to tell you too, because it's gonna blow your mind. Uh,
you know, it blew my mind. Uh. Something had appeared

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to grab him around his neck. And then they go
round and around and around in circles, and he plowed
up the ground in a circle with his hoofs fighting
with it or trying to get loose from it. But
he couldn't get loose from it. It took him down
and broke his neck to the point to where his

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chin was laying on his back. His neck was completely
his neck was broken, the vertebrate just severed, and his
chin was laying on his back. It was so unnatural
and horrifying to see. And uh, it was hard to

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deal with, of course. So I told, you know, everybody,
I said, that's not right. Something's wrong here, something's wrong.
And they tell me it's says, well, we don't know
what happened either, and all you just need to let
it go. Things happen, and I never could let it go.
And so years rolled on in all and I never

(15:45):
could let it go. It would come to my mind
every once in a while, and then all of a sudden,
it seemed like my mind was released, or something released
my mind and opened it up to where I knew
exactly what happened to the horse. It was almost like
I was seeing through the creature's eyes. And what had
happened was the creature crossed the fence, first went into

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the pasture, and then he calls for his family to
cross through the pasture to get to the woods, and
the horse caught him midway and he was charging, and
the the creature, I'm assuming that he's the big Papa,
grabs the horse the other that the family unit runs

(16:35):
into the woods and he fights the horse, and the
struggle lasted, I don't know, it was a good while.
And then he takes the horse down and he don't
stop until he brings the horse's head all the way
over and breaks his neck. And he never got off

(16:57):
of the horse until the horse stopped moving and breathing
all together. That's the only time he released the horse,
and he got up and he headed to the woods.
And that's when you know, I didn't see through his
eyes anymore. It's the strangest, one of the strange things
I've ever insperienced in my life. For that to happen.

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I don't know if it's I got to see through
his eyes and got the truth like that, if I
was granted that, or if it's a vision. I'm not sure,
but that's what happened to that horse. He killed our
horse in self defense of his family, and I'm not
mad at him for that or them, And so and

(17:47):
then here a year or two ago, I have a big,
big fig tree down on the backside, and we would
go down and pick the figs. You know. It's like,
you know, natural candy to us and my uncle and
my son, and my uncle says, hey, let's go check
on the figs and see if they're ready. Okay, So

(18:08):
we got us a little plastic grocery bag and hit
it down there. One or two more days they're gonna
be just right, you know. So a day or so
went by, two days we said, let's go get some figs.
They got to be ready. We went back down the
whole fig tree. I mean it was loaded with figs.
The whole tree from top to bottom was stripped of

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the figs, no figs whatsoever, only one fig left on it.
And around the tree, around the base of the tree
was padded flat. There was no hoof marks. This just
padded flat, like a bunch of barefooted people walking round
and round and round and round. It padded flat. And

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we had not been trimming around that tree and all.
It was just natural, you know. We rescue whatever growed
up around it. But uh, yep, it's padded flat. And uh,
I told my uncle I said, oh, these family Bigfoot's coming.
Uh took all the figs. He said, get out of here.
It's probably a flock of birds, I says, no. I said,

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if it was a flock of birds, I said, they
would pick it it, pick at it and leave ragged
ends where the fig hooks to the limb, it be ragged,
and they would I said, this was plucked by hand cleanly.
He said, well, you do have a point there, but
I'm sticking with birds. I said, okay, suit yourself. I

(19:39):
know what got them, you know, and I don't blame them.
I mean, you know, and it's almost like they knew
exactly when the figs are going to be ready to
and then the couple of you know, and since then,
when the figs would come in, you know, we never
could beat them to the figs. They'd always get them.
So I don't even worry about the fig tree. But

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uh yeah. And also a year or two ago or so,
my son and his friend, you know, by then, they're teenagers,
and so they was as long as they're not by themself,
I'd let them wander out there, you know, and look
and everything. They loved the woods and things. They come

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running up and says, Daddy, you've got to come and
see this. I said, what is it? Because my son
had been watching the shows too, and different shows. You
know how they make structures and stuff. If you've got
to come see this, I said, what is it? He says,
they done built something down there. I said, what are

(20:46):
you talking about? He said, they have built something down there.
You've got to come see. I said, all right, So
I walked down there with I'm sure enough that took
this skinny like sweet gum sadly, and they had drug
up from I don't know where in the woods, all
these other that was falling sapling trees, you know, and

(21:09):
they made like a tepee type structure using that live
sweet gum as the starter. What I'm assuming, I said, Boys,
I said, don't get near it and don't touch it.
I said, we're gonna keep our distance from it. I said,
we'll go peek at it every once in a while.
I see if they add to it or if they
build more. I said, but do not go to it

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and put your scent on it. I said, don't get
near it, don't disturb it. Well might make them mad
if you mess with it, and they feel comfortable enough
to build something that close to us, you know, because
I believe, I really feel this, that they after a
person lives at a spot, a place so a certain

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amount of time that they know the people better than
the people know them. They get to know you, and
they get comfortable with you. See. And I have not
actually seen one myself, but all these experiences I've had,

(22:19):
you know, there's no doubt that they're real. I just
know they are. I mean, it's just become normal to me.
I accept it, and they've always been around. Well, so
my son and his friend and myself we did and
drove a little pickup down to the backside and we

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set up some targets and we thought we'd just do
a little twenty two plinking and so we was doing that,
having a pretty good time. And when it goes time
to check targets, you know, guns down safe and everything,
and one or two of us go down reset targets,

(23:03):
check check our scores and whatnot. Well, my son went
down this time, and I was looking at him down
there working with the targets, and when he got done
with it, he stood back up and turned and he
looked and his mouth fell open, and he kind of
turned pale looking, and at first I thought he was

(23:25):
looking at me. I said, zag, what is it? And
he didn't answer me, But he was not looking at me.
He was looking past me, and he's just froze there.
I said, oh no, I said, tell us something behind me,
and he you know, he's froze. I mean that was
like an instinct that comes to you, you know. And
I spun around. There was nothing there. And when I

(23:47):
turned back to speak to my son, he had done
crossed that distance so fast and I didn't even hear him.
He was in my face and he says, there was
a big foot right behind you, standing there. I said,
you're kidding may He said no. He said she was

(24:07):
standing right behind you, standing there, looking at you, straight
at you. And he says she didn't look happy either,
with the look on her face. I said what, I said,
how you know it's a woman. He put his hands
up and kind of motion like breasts. He says, I

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know it was a woman bigfoot. I said what color
was it? He says, brown, but had a lot of gray.
And I thought, well, this is an elder bigfoot. Maybe
she's an elder, and he said before I turned to
look behind me she had stepped into a few little

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jackpines and just instantly disappeared, just like that, as soon
as she made contact the little short jackpines, she just disappeared,
just vanished in the thin air. And she was close enough,
because you know, there are twenty two targets, maybe where

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fifteen to twenty yards or so. And he could see
the color of her eyes. And I tried to get
him to explain to me what color was her eyes.
He said, I don't know how to say it. It's
not gold. It's so I start pulling up different animals

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eyes and the closest thing I got is a crimson
yellow eyes of a gorilla, this kind of goldish. And yeah,
so but these are not gorillas, though they just have traits.

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Their eyes I think is made to see in the dark.
Is as good as we can see in the daytime.
And I believe that's the way this reason their eyes
are the way they are. And uh, but uh, she
she stood, because so with the little jack pine she

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stepped into, we had a reference and all. But first
of all, let me just tell you, we just packed
up our stuff and we just eased on back to
the house, you know, because we didn't want no part
of anything like that. We had to get ourselves together,
you know, because you know what he told me, what
he's saying, he was, uh, he was shook up, and
he was shaking, you know.

Speaker 3 (26:36):
And we packed up, and his friend didn't see her either,
because he was over taking him a Wii against the
fence line, you know, had his back to everything.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
And but he come when he come walking back over,
he said, what's going on? And we told him, says,
just just get you stuff, put it in the back
of the truck, Let's get into truck, let's go to
the house. We'll talk about it. And so it took
us a day or two. We finally got the nerve
up to go back down there cautiously. And then I

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stood beside the pine or a few little pans there
that she stepped into, and I says, well, she as
tall as me. He says, no, little taller. And I
stand five foot nine. And by the time he said,
I raised my hand up, you know, next to the pantree,

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I'm guessing by the time I raised my hand up
and he stopped me six and a half to seven
foot at the most. That was about how tall he said.
She was and said that she didn't have super long

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hair either, it was just well, well kind of groomed
and uh, it was even just a full coating of hair.
And he said that she did not have a happy
look on her face, and her her skin was a

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not black, but uh a shade a dark shade of gray.
It didn't shine. It's uh. But anyway, that's the story
on ed. But I've been a while since I've been
been able to get out to see anything else. Oh,

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I will tell you this, you know, I told I
mentioned that I have a friend from Alaska, and I
don't know if I should speak the word of the
creature that he encountered, because he said it's very bad
luck according to the elders that there. Can I say
that to mention the name of the creature, yeah, absolutely, okay. Uh.

(29:03):
What it means in either Clinkett or Alabaskan is an
otter man. But it's the acoustica. He had an experience
with acoustica in Alaska. That's what started him on his
quest for the truth. And when he moved down here,
because you know, he married a Clinton girl, you know,

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and she wanted to stay. He moved from Alaska here
and me and him, you know, got together, and he
found out that my experiences and all. That's when he
opened up to me and he actually joined the b
F R O uh and and got in touch with
you know, researchers. But he he's not real keen on

(29:48):
their uh practices, you know, or their techniques. I must say,
you know kind of but uh that. So I invited
him out, says, I know how to get them to
come around if you want to have an experience with them.
And he said, how's that. I said, well, what we'll do.

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We'll go to the backside down there. I said, we'll
set us up a little cooking area and I said,
we'll build some fire. I said, we'll throw some racks
on it. I said, we're gonna take fat meat. I said,
and we're gonna gently cook it and let the grease
fall into the fire. I said, then that smoke is
gonna travel and go down the ridge and cross through

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the woods. I said that there can may not be
any music. I said, if you hear anything, you can't
turn around, and look, you can't. You've got to act
oblivious to your surroundings. I said, because the first time
did they see you they done got your attention, they'll
back off, I said, But if you just keep acting done,

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even if they start whistling or anything, I said, they'll
just get more and more curious. Income a little closer,
I said, And then you'll really start hearing stuff if
you don't even see anything. I said, that's what that's
the way it happens here, you know, that's that's the
way you'll get the men. And sure enough, that's what

(31:16):
we've done. Uh. We cooked. We took a like a
Boston buck, cut it into steaks and had all the
fat and I always seized it up and everything, and
we slow roasted the steaks over the fire, and all
that smoke just went exactly where I wanted it to write,
down into the woods and everything down the ridge. And

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it took about an hour or better two hours maybe.
We started hearing some strange whistles down in the woods,
and you could tell it was not just the bird,
you know, of some sort. Well, if I was trying
to imitate the bird, they wasn't good. Eddy, And it
came up a little closer, and the whistles got a
lot louder, and you can here walking around down in

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there and walking around, and we never cut our eyes
over that way or nothing. We just tried to where
we never turned our heads. We just cut our eyes
just trying to, you know, just for our own protection,
just to noted something that's not coming up on our backs,
you know. But we acted dumb, you know, just kind
of kneeling around, messing with the fire, talking slowly, no music,

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just quiet, and we never acknowledged the noises. And they
kept getting louder and louder. Then we started hearing saying,
who like that ever? Once in a while, some crunching.
It's almost like they would take and pick up a

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stick of a sword or something and just break it crack,
just to see if they get our tensin. We ignoyed it.
We kept on, you know, just like we ain't heard
nothing like we like, we just oblievious. Just big dummies
in the woods, not paying no attention. That's what they like.
They like control. They don't like, uh if you acknowledge

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them the back off. If they feel like they're in
total control. They're like, look at these look at these people.
You know, uh, here we are and they don't even
know we hear that kind of thing, you know, That's
what I'm assuming, but I done got ahead of myself
because before that, uh, my sister used to live down

(33:30):
on my place, and she had like a fire pit
and we would uh smoke ribs and things like that
and have cookouts and stuff. And we had you know,
the white Christmas lights run through the area just for
a little lighting and you know, because you know, in
the fall, it would get dark early. And so me

(33:53):
and my everybody had done put the food in that
we cooked and everything. So we're gonna stand out by
the fire for a little while longer and we'll be
on them to eat. And so they said, okay, So
me and my brother was standing out there. I had
my back to the fire. He was standing in front
of me with his back to the woods, which was

(34:15):
had been logged out. But it was you know, grown
up in briars and thickets and all that something that
we can't walk through, especially in the dark with no flashlight.
And we're just talking and stuff, and we wouldn't hear
in anything out through the woods or anything. And then

(34:35):
all of a sudden, you ever pick up a stick
and you throw it and it makes this swishing sound
like that. Yeah, Okay, Well I'm standing there in front
of him, and all of a sudden, I hear this
swishing sound like like like that, and all of a sudden,

(34:56):
the stick bounced off of his head, knocked his hat,
his hats ways, and it made him fall toward me
a couple of feet and I actually reached out to
catch his shoulder, you know. And he looked at me
and says, what do you do that far, I said,
you big dummy. I said, I'm standing right here in
front of you talking to you. I said, you know,

(35:16):
good and well, I didn't do that. I said, there's
the stick that hits you in the head right there.
And I reached down and picked it up, and I
looked at it, you know, under the lights, and I said,
come on, let's go inside. I says, they might be
more sticks or something come and hit us. And I says,
we can't be out here. So we took off and

(35:37):
went inside. I took the stick with me and got
in there, and it was a foot and a half
to two foot long stick, pretty solid, but it had
been laying on the ground for a long time. You
know what a watermark is. When a stick lays on
the ground, it's got a water mark. Runs along the
side of it, so it been laying on the ground
for a good while. So they one of them picked

(35:57):
it up and decided to throw a stick, and they
hit my brother in the head with it. But we
never heard anything. Just the stick come flying through the
air and whacked it in the head. It didn't fall
out of a tree or nothing. You could tell this
stick come off the crowd because of the watermark, you know,
and besides that, you know, idn knew I'm standing in

(36:18):
front of him if it fell from a tree or something.
You know, it's making this boon. Hitting in the head,
the back of the head bounced off his head and
he stumbled forward toward me. I imagine they killed him
if it hit on the end of the stick, right,
I mean, but I mean, he said, well if something

(36:43):
got me and all, and it just kind of went
over his head. He just couldn't grasp what really happened
to him. He says, I got hit by a stick
out there. Don't know what done it. I said, well, Jeremy,
it's not going to be a raccoon that does it
or something like that. I says, you know, that's the
closest thing we have. I'm around here with thumbs, I said,

(37:05):
and nothing else out there, you know, has a thumb
to hold onto something to throw it. I said, Wow,
I damn you know that kind of thing. But but yeah,
I probably got a lot more to tell you, but
I think that is about it for right now. But

(37:27):
like I said, you know, I was born and raised
in Clinton or around the Clinton area and everything, and
I've had a lot of experiences. I've witnessed UFOs. Me,
my mom, my grandmam, and my brother actually has missing

(37:50):
time from a UFO encounter. When me and my brother
was real little, I mean six or seven years old
on that farm, you know, my grandma and grandpa's uh
my grandma had came up and picked up my mom
and uh me and my brother to take us back

(38:10):
to their house on the other end of the farm
to eat supper. And so she pulled up. We get
in a car and we're heading back down the dirt
road to their house. The pastures over to the left
and up in the pasture hovering above it is like
a cigar shaped type of craft. And it was big too,

(38:31):
and I had lights all down all down it, like
yellow light lights. And my grandma stopped the car and
stepped out of the car, and Mama's hollering begging her, Mama,
get back in the car, get back in the car.
And then it's like things went blank. And then all
of a sudden, we're in their front yard and my

(38:54):
grandpa's out on the porch and he says, uh, you know,
he calls her Francis when mad at her. Well, Francis,
you went to get them and you decided y'all just
gonna stay up up there in all uh suppers on
the table cold. Now what do you mean, Harold. I
just went straight and got him and come back. Now

(39:15):
you've been gone over two hours. Yeah, And so we
don't know what happened at that time. And here about
two or three years ago, me at work, my truck
went down. So I ended up riding with another driver

(39:36):
just as a crewman, just to help him. And we
had it was a great court to carry the truck
to dump it, you know. And uh we turned onto
the road where you go dump and so just ride
out and broad daylight. Uh. Uh silver craft is hovering

(39:57):
in the air and this thing's huge. Just say, imagine
uh airliner with no wings or anything like that. It's
kind of slightly oval and tapered and rounded at each end.
I might have been looking at it from a side

(40:17):
view and not a top of your bottom view, you know,
and maybe around if you know, if we were directly
under it, who knows. But it's a metallic silver, dull,
metallic silver, very dull, and it's just hanging there in
the air. And the guy, the other driver, he's driving,

(40:38):
he just slams on the brakes and gets the truck stopped,
and he says, what is that? But he put a
whole lot more to it, you know. And I look
at him. I'm not gonna call his name. I says,
you know what that is? I said, you don't have
to ask what that is? I said, you know what
that is because I've always been picked on because I've

(40:59):
never heard what I believe, you know, and they, you know,
I've always been ribbed and picked on, you know, and say, well,
you seen any seen anything today? How you know, and
stuff like that. I said, now, I ain't seen nothing
in a while. But so so we get the truck

(41:20):
dumped and everything like that, and uh, we're heading back,
uh back to town to go back to work. He's
over there with both hands on the wheel and he's
kind of hunched over, and uh, he's deep in thought,
and uh, I say, I said okay. He said no,

(41:40):
I'm not okay. I said, why not? He says, do
you understand what just happened to me? I said, yeah,
same thing that happened to me. He said, do you
understand that my perception of the world has changed in
an instant? I said, so you really didn't believe before this,

(42:02):
did you? He said no, I didn't. He said do
you know what that does to somebody like me? I said, well,
you're just gonna have to get a grip, I said,
because it's real. He said, but I'm having a hard
time right now. I said, well, I said, just hang
in there, You'll be all right. I said, might not
be the last time you see something, you know, But now,

(42:26):
I mean my experiences like that and with the big
Foot or Harry Peeple's I mean, it's just I've had
experience after experience, and I just wanted to for now
to get the main things to you. But they're very real.

(42:51):
This UFO stuff is real. I have seen orbs out
here flying over my house too, and that they would
move very slow, just a treetop level, very slowly, no
sound or anything, the big as a basketball and just

(43:12):
moving over the treetops, just kind of like almost like
they're looking for something or something like that. And I
one night, you know, because I you know, I went
outside for something and that was dark, and I seen
one and I watched it for a few seconds. I said,
I'm gonna get my wife to come out, you know,
get her to come out and watch it with me,
and she knows the experiences that you know, I've had

(43:36):
and things like that and stuff. I went there, I said,
come on out here, I said, I want you to
watch something with me. She said, what is it. I said,
there's a red ball over the tree, right above the trees.
I said, this is moving around out there, and she said, no,
I'm not going out there. She said, I don't want
to see it. I said why not. I said, I
don't think it's gonna come after us. I said, just

(43:58):
come outside and watch it with me. I just wanted
somebody with me to see it too, you know, And
she wouldn't. So I went back outside and watched it,
and it hung around for four or five minutes, and
then it just kind of he's gone off and disappeared.
I mean, it's been a just lots of things like that.

Speaker 1 (44:21):
Yeah, that's an extraordinary account that you shared with me.
And I can't imagine how this made you feel and
how this changed your perception to life itself. How did
your mother and grandfather respond to those early signs? Did
they ever share their own experiences or beliefs with you?

Speaker 2 (44:43):
My my grandpa, he's the type of man that he's
career military and he knows, he knows a lot. He's
you know, he's passed on many years now that he
was career military. Uh. He was World War Two and
Korean War, and he finished out his career on Edward's

(45:06):
Air Force Base in California. Uh. He had like top
secret clearance and everything like that, and he dealt with
a lot of things that they won't let us know about.
And he he died with it. He never would because
he was sworn to secrecy. And I asked him questions
and all he says, I can't tell you, but one
day you'll know, he said, it's coming. Asking that when

(45:31):
back when I was a teenager, I never could get
anything out of him. But he he just like the
paranormal stuff and things like that. He just he'd find
a way to get out of the conversation and dodge it.
But my mom, on the other hand, with her experiences

(45:52):
and everything and stuff, I mean, she's an experiencer too. Uh,
She's very open communicating with me, my brother, my sister's
open minded, but she tries to kind of. I think
she tries to block it out to I think she

(46:14):
thinks she's protecting herself by blocking it out. But my mom,
me and her communicate all the time about the different
things that's happened and happens and all kinds of stuff. Yes,
and my grand my grandmother, my grandma, she she's well,
I mean with her experiences and everything and all. She

(46:35):
she was open minded too, you know, and talking. You know,
it's like part of your family is like now I
don't want to talk about it, or they pooh poo
it or something. The other part is right there with you,
supporting you because they know they've experienced, you know, for instance,

(46:58):
as far as the way people do you and the
way they are. I was working as the early nineties,
I was working in security. I was a security guard
under a US postal contract that was pretty strict, you know,
and all and back then, you know, I used to
smoke back then. I don't now, but so I walked

(47:23):
out onto the smoking patio, had me a few minutes,
you know, to you know. Anyway, I walked out there
and lit up a smoke. And the maintenance supervisor, which
I knew very well. You know, he's actually a neighbor
down the road from me. On seventy two. Here, he
was out there and this gigantic bird came up. There's

(47:50):
a cow pasture on the other side of the trees
across the road. There's a lot of cows around here
and stuff, you know. But this gigantic bird, and I'm
talking about this bird was as big as an airplane,
like a like a you know, shingle engine or show.

(48:12):
It soared up from behind like it come up from
behind the trees, and it went up and then it
made a hard dive down, pulled its wings and went
straight down. And uh, I couldn't believe what I see.
And I seen it with my own eyes, but it
takes a second for your mind to register what you've seen.

(48:35):
On its head had just you know, a big, huge
beak and all you know, I mean, I seen it,
you know, and uh, its head on top of its
head had like a turf of feathers that came off
of it, kind of like whate a a cockatoo would
have like a turf of feathers off the top of

(48:57):
the head, but it was wrapped up all the way.
And Uh. I turned around to the guy you know
that was out there. It's just me and him out there,
and he looked at me. He said, don't even, Travis,
he said, don't even. He says, if you go in
there and say anything, I'll tell everybody you're crazy. I

(49:21):
ain't seen a thing. I said, don't He said, don't
you dare? Don't you put me in it? I said, dang,
you know why you want to be like that? He said, Look,
he said some things. It's better just kept to yourself.
He said, I don't want in it. I said, I

(49:41):
like them. So I gave him his wish and I
didn't say a thing to nobody in there or nothing,
you know. I just went in with my mind blown,
you know. And he jumped up and he took off inside.
You know. But when he before he shot that door,
you know, before you let that door go, he said,

(50:02):
I mean it. He said, don't you come in here,
say nothing, it's night. I ain't saying nothing. Yeah, they do.

Speaker 1 (50:11):
You think it was a thunderbird or I can't remember
exactly what they call it.

Speaker 2 (50:16):
That's the only thing I can think that it could
be is what they would call the thunderbird. And but
it was a gigantic like a gigantic hawk or a
gigantic eagle. I mean this thing, like I said, you know,
we have red tails around here and all. We got

(50:38):
a pretty good, uh, a pretty good thing of bald
eagles that hang around Greenwood Lake. Now you know, they
make it their home. I've seen them, seen them up close,
to see them far off this and and if you
ever see a bald eagle up close and all, you'd
be shocked how muscular they are and everything, you know.

(51:00):
But anyway, this thing was, like I said, it was
big as an airplane, like the small one engine airplane,
everybit that's big of it. And I just wonder when
it made that dive back down on the other side
of the trees in that campasture, if it went after
a calf or something another. It's definitely big enough to

(51:24):
toe the person off if it wanted to.

Speaker 1 (51:28):
Yeah, absolutely, that's incredible. And it was a lot bigger
than a bald eagle or let's say a vulture. Correct.

Speaker 2 (51:36):
Oh, absolutely, I mean it was like I mean trying
to think a lot bigger. I mean, this thing was enormous.
I mean twenty five thirty foot wingspan or better. Oh,

(52:02):
it would make a Let's see, you take a little,
tiny humming bird and set it next to a crow.
It make a like if the bald eagle was the
little humming bird and the crow was the giant that

(52:24):
I've seen. You see the difference there. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (52:29):
Absolutely, that's extremely large, too large to be any known predator.

Speaker 2 (52:36):
Yes, okay, And I don't understand why other people hadn't
seen them. More people hadn't seen it. I don't Maybe
it flies in and out of dimensions.

Speaker 1 (52:46):
Yeah, that was kind of my thoughts as well. And
it makes you wonder if there's like portals in the area.
You know, you've seen the cigar shape UFO or multiple UFOs,
you've had bigfoot activity in the area, and you've seen
other strange things that can't be explained. And the Native
Americans talked about these phenomenons, and I believe that there

(53:08):
are other worlds within our own world, and that could
be a reason why we don't find them, why we
don't find bones or bodies. And yeah, it really makes
you wonder. In nineteen ninety six, something hit your mobile
home with incredible force. What were the moments leading up
to that incident and following the impact.

Speaker 2 (53:33):
Like I said, we've been living out here on the
property for a while and there was just like some
strangeness going on out here, and you know, hearing things,
hearing voices and things like that. Me and my daughter

(53:58):
was outside one more and I got off work, actually
in security, on off the third shift, and I came
home and she was already up, you know, it's the weekend,
and she she met me outside and me and her
was just spending a little time outside because it was nice.
And uh we heard her mom start calling her name,

(54:24):
and she, you know, she yelled back, so, uh, Mama,
I'm over here with daddy, and uh no reply. Then
her name was called again, sound just like my wife,
and I says, uh, she's over here with me. There

(54:47):
was no response. I said, let's go in, man, to
see what's going on. She must not can hear us reply.
We walked in and she was sitting in her favorite chairs,
sitting there peeling a lemon. I said, why did you
come outside? And coll Amanda for I said, we answered you,
and she says, I hadn't moved from here. I mean,

(55:10):
she's sitting there with her plate and everything. She says,
I hadn't been outside. I said, really, she said no,
And so you know, it's just strangeness and odd things
like that up to that point. And I said, you know,
I don't change jobs. So I was on a day
job and the work was pretty demanding. You know, I

(55:33):
kept up a whole I supplied a whole department, you know,
with what they needed, boxes and things like that. But
you know, I said, you know, when when the trailer
got slapped. But when I got home that day, I
knew they was going, you know, visiting. I said, oh yeah,
I got the place to myself and fixuring a kickback

(55:56):
and take it easy. And I hadn't kicked back for
ten fifteen minutes. I forget what I had said, you know,
sitting in that chair, and it was it was loud.
At first, I thought a tree limb had come and
fell on the place, you know, made me jump out

(56:16):
of that chair and scared me, and the pictures got
knocked off the wall, you know, And I went and
looked at Goud. Like I said, I checked out the
windows looking out, didn't see anything. And I finally, you know,
I went down the hall, went out the door and
got to look and looking for a limb or anything

(56:37):
like that. That's when I seen the den up toward
the top and everything, but there was nothing in sight
to see. And that's when I knew. I said, this
creature of a sort that had come and slapped it,
and it knew it knew I was there. And yeah,

(56:58):
that was that was terrifying. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (57:00):
Absolutely, you described hearing two creatures fighting in the woods.
Can you go into more detail about what you heard
and felt that night?

Speaker 2 (57:09):
Yeah, I'll try to. So, you know, like I said,
me and my brother were, h we're standing out by
the fire, but there's no music or anything. You know.
We were just standing there talking, you know, about what
we want to do, wish we could do things like that,
and uh, we we start hearing these growls and grunts

(57:32):
and things like that, and I says, you hear that
down there, and uh, my dogs had done got up
from laying down and their attention. They they had their attention.
They was looking down there, just standing there looking and uh,
he says, what you know, my brother, I said, listen,
And then it happened again. It got louder, and he says, yeah,

(57:57):
I hear it now. And then all of a suddenly
erupted into a war down there in the violence and
the power is something that I've never heard. I mean,
from your craziest horror show on TV. They can't even

(58:19):
repulicate this. That there was at least two of them
down there, roaring, screaming, beating each other, throwing each other,
and the roaring would vibrate through your chest. I'm talking
about through your chest, and your knees felt like they
was gonna buckle during that, you know, and your hair

(58:43):
stood up, and you really it's hard for your mind
to process what you was hearing. And uh, it was unbelievable.
It's like like two t rex Is down in the woods,
fire and tearing things up and roaring and screaming and beating,

(59:05):
and the beaten part of it, you know, the way
they had to be hitting each other, you could tell
that the hits was connecting with flesh, it was not
connecting with wood. It was connected that you could you
could just you just knew it that the beating was
connecting with flesh what you would hear. And this went

(59:30):
on for fifteen minutes or so. They did not get
tired anytime soon down there. I mean, those creatures, that
the power that they was displaying down their power, just
the brute strength of them. It's not worldly. It's not

(59:56):
worldly to us, I mean, and it can't be.

Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
Yeah, that's really interesting. Why do you think these two
creatures were fighting.

Speaker 2 (01:00:09):
I've thought about it, and I've thought about it, and
I don't understand it, but I have some theories. I'm like,
what if one was trying to take another one's mate?

(01:00:31):
Or I don't think they fight over territory like humans do.
I think it has to be a lot more personal.
That's the feeling I get. I don't think now they
are territorial to a Maybe to let each other know,

(01:00:56):
hey I'm here. Maybe that's what their structures are for,
or just you know, warning each other. I'm not sure,
but I think if they fight, it's got to be
a lot more personal, like one trying to steal the
other one's mate, or one of them was went rugue

(01:01:16):
and got yourself in trouble being put in his place?
Or what if it was not two of the same,
What if it is a bigfoot and a dog man fighting?

Speaker 1 (01:01:34):
Yeah, those are all excellent theories. Did you ever return
to the area to see if you can find any hairs, tracks,
or damage on the trees?

Speaker 2 (01:01:45):
To tell you the truth, it took us a couple
of months before we ventured in there because it scared
us so bad. I wish that. Well, my brother wouldn't
go with me, my kids was too small, my wife
sure enough wouldn't go. My other ken people that says
I'm not going down there. What if it is real,

(01:02:05):
I'm not going down there. And I couldn't go down
there by myself. I couldn't make myself. I wish I
had the courage back then to do it. I wish
I knew to do it. You know, I just standing
out there. I've never I've never been so afraid of something.

(01:02:29):
But at the same time they was down in the woods,
I was up, you know, on the other side of
the pastor. Now, when I say pastor, I must say
to where they was down in the woods one hundred
yards at the most. So out of those woods come

(01:02:50):
to Sound and it just traveled right across that pasture,
right in our face, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:02:55):
Yeah, And this was near or in the Sumpter National Forest. Correct.

Speaker 2 (01:03:00):
Yes, Yes, there's a tiny little spot in my property.
I had nineteen acres out here and there's a tiny
little spot of my property actually joins Sumter National Forest. Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:03:17):
Yeah, And I believe that's where they're coming from. I've
taken reports from Greenville all the way down to Newbery
in Columbia, and you're right in between there, So I
believe you these things are certainly in the area. I
did an interview with a hunter from North Carolina and
he was in the Goshen Swamps and he spoke with
a police officer that claims he witnessed these two sasquatch

(01:03:42):
creatures fighting in the middle of the highway. And he
said one would pick up a sasquatch and slam it down,
and they'd go back and forth, and it was almost
like a wrestling match, like he thought maybe they were
fighting over territory.

Speaker 2 (01:03:54):
A mate.

Speaker 1 (01:03:56):
He just said there was like hair flying everywhere, and
he talked about out the the immense strength of these creatures,
and I believe them, and it sounds like that's what
was happening on your property. There are two of them
fighting over possibly in May, either with a dog man
or just territory in general.

Speaker 2 (01:04:16):
Yes, it's it's got to be something like that. But
like I said, as far as territory, uh, they they
have such vast land and everything like that. To me,
it seems like if they fight, it's got to be
a lot more personal than territory. That they know each

(01:04:40):
other once got a grudge against the other of a sort.
I just I just that's just the way I feel.
I mean, I don't know, I can't help it, but man,
I'll tell you, Uh, I wish I've got to get

(01:05:00):
like I've seen one of your videos, like get a
what is a Panasonic camera video thing I've got. I've
got to get one. And because when I get my
hip heeled it and everything like that, I plan on
doing some ketching up outside. And I want that thing
rated where I just have my hand on it just

(01:05:21):
in case, you know, because you never know.

Speaker 1 (01:05:24):
Yeah, absolutely, And the Camquarder is about the size of
a coke can and it can fit in your pocket
and it can zoom in so far away, and I
believe it's called the Panasonic HC wx F nine nine one.
There's different models, but they can all pretty much do
the same thing, and they have night vision and just
a bunch of different settings. They're really easy to use,

(01:05:47):
and I would highly recommend it to anyone who's experiencing
activity on their properties.

Speaker 2 (01:05:52):
I've got to I've got to get one. I've I need.
I'm gonna have a kid. I'm gonna keep like plaster
Parish with me when I get out in like the
camp Quarder, at least have some basics, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:06:09):
Yeah, any camp quorterer will do. Whether you buy like
a Sony, a Cannon, a Panasonic, and yeah, definitely have
some plaster of Paris and buy an audio recorder like
an Olympus or a Zoom audio recorder. They're about eighty
two one hundred bucks and they're well worth it because
you never know if you'll experience some type of vocalizations

(01:06:30):
that are ongoing and you might get the next Sierra
Sounds or Saint Louis County, Minnesota vocalizations in case you
haven't heard those, those are on YouTube and they're amazing
and it just sounds like something huge and prehistoric. And yeah,
your description of these things fighting, you know, like Jurassic Park,
like two t rex is down there, I can definitely relate.

(01:06:51):
And that's that's what it's like when you experience one
of these cryptid creatures. You know, it's not a deer,
a wolf for someone out there playing a prank like,
it's something much bigger and described with like two giant
elephants fighting in the woods.

Speaker 2 (01:07:03):
Yes, except for with the roaring and screaming. I'm telling
you these things it just didn't sound earthly in in
in the in the sound how loud, tremendously loud. I mean,

(01:07:24):
it's it's unreal. It's imagine all these these terrifying roars
and everything coming out of I don't know, concert speakers
or something or better.

Speaker 1 (01:07:37):
Yeah, And you could see like the tops of the
trees moving, and you can hear branches breaking.

Speaker 2 (01:07:42):
I could because it was a well lit, you know,
well lit night from the moon. It was a full moon,
so it gave you know, we could we could see
dimly across the pasture. You could make out the trees
and with the moonlight on the leaves of the trees
at the top, you know, you could see him shimmering
back and forth, and you could hear the trees, and

(01:08:05):
they was using the trees against each other, you know they.
I mean, I'm sure they was throwing each other into
the trees and everything. They had to be hurting each
other badly.

Speaker 1 (01:08:24):
And what time of year was this? Do you remember
if it was in the summer or the wintertime?

Speaker 2 (01:08:29):
Well, very rarety, we would have started fire.

Speaker 1 (01:08:34):
I think it was like in the fall, you know, yeah,
I think that's when they start breeding. That's what I theorized,
that they breed in the fall, and maybe they were
fighting over a mate.

Speaker 2 (01:08:48):
They may have been you know, more personal.

Speaker 1 (01:08:52):
Like, yeah, I say that because I encountered a juvenile
sasquatch and he was just a little guy, and this
was in July. So my theory was he was only
a couple months old, so that means he was born
in the spring, so that means they possibly bred in
the fall time.

Speaker 2 (01:09:07):
Okay, my brother and my mom lived in an apartment
and their next door neighbor right next to them in
the apartment, him and his family, excuse me, him and
his family used to live out in the country. I
forget exactly where, but it was kind of isolated, and

(01:09:31):
so him and his brother was out and everything out
in the yard, and they looked down the dirt road
and there was a family unit came out and they
didn't even recognize and see the kids up there. They
was just out doing their thing in the road down there,
down the dirt road. And he said that there was

(01:09:57):
a couple of females in the group and each one
of them had a baby on their back. Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:10:08):
Yeah, that's incredible. So they carry their babies. I've heard
that before. There's also footage, I can't remember what it's called,
maybe the Independence Day footage where a mother sasquatch picks
up the baby and she carries it off into the forest.

Speaker 2 (01:10:21):
Uhuh, And if like just kind of leisurely like now,
I'm sure she had to take off runt and she's
going to reach and get the baby and hold it
and run away. But just for everyday thing and all,
he said, they just looked like they wouldn't concern that much.
And the babies was on their backs just like they

(01:10:43):
were supposed to be there, like they fitted on their backs.

Speaker 1 (01:10:48):
Yeah, that's incredible. And your dogs had an interesting reaction
to the event. They tried to push you back. Do
you believe the animals can sense cryptids more easy than humans?

Speaker 2 (01:11:01):
Absolutely? I do. I sure do. I think that they can.
They I think they pick up on spirits, They can
pick up on the cryptids and everything. And I know
the difference in my dog's barks and growls out here,

(01:11:22):
and you know, since then, you know, I have new
dogs and all because my old dogs is passed on,
you know, but I know I get to know their
barks and they're kind of like their language, you know,
and I can tell when they're afraid or there's somebody
out here, or somebody's come to visit, or you need

(01:11:44):
to come and check there's something going on, you know,
type barks. And so yes, they absolutely know they do.

Speaker 1 (01:11:54):
I would agree with that. Can you walk us through
what happened with the horse? And why do you think
they broke the horse's neck? And I'm sorry to hear
about that, by the way, and I'm sure that was
an awful sight to see.

Speaker 2 (01:12:06):
It was. It was horrifying because we had got attached
to the horse. You know, we can't have horses anymore
now because it's just they demand too much, you know,
as far as taking care of them properly. But back
then we was able to and stuff. And so a

(01:12:29):
horse to us becomes a family member once they integrate
into your family. But he was a rescue, and we
brought him back to health and all and gotting healthy
and he was happy. But he was he liked people

(01:12:50):
and but he did not like animals. He did not
like dogs anything. He was territorial all. He would chase
any kind of critter out of his pastor. As far
as critters going to his pastor was a no go.
He was going after him. That's just that's the only

(01:13:10):
bad thing about him. So you know, like I would
get off of work and I'd go and I called
faring and here he come. You know, you hear the
who's first, and then you see he run up, you know,
and take care of him and everything and stuff, spend
time with him. And so that was a routine, like

(01:13:33):
I said. And and then one day, well there was
a weekend, a Saturday, I think Saturday morning. I got
up and then my Saturday morning thing, coffee, and I said,
going out to see o Jeb, see what he's up to,
you know, and walked out there, called for ing, expecting
him to come trotting up. He didn't real quiet out there,

(01:13:58):
nothing instantly, him not coming up. I just a bad
feeling came over me. So I went across. I went
through the gate. When I started out across the pasture,
you know, the pastor narrows through an opening that opens
up into another spot. And uh so I was calling
me out as I was going no, no reply, no response.

(01:14:20):
And then when I went through the to the clearing.
Uh there he laid right in the middle. He was
laying on the ground and his neck had been broken.
It had been broken to the point to where his
head was twisted backwards and his chin and muzzle was

(01:14:41):
against his backbone. The circle around him. He had done
it with his hoofs. He had torn the ground up
and plowed the ground with his hoofs round and around,
and it's like something hatting by his neck, carried around

(01:15:01):
and around. And I tried to tell my ken folks
and people. I says, look at this, this is not right.
This is unnatural. I said. His legs are not tangled
in anything for this to have. He's not tangled. There's
nothing around him. It's just plowed up dirt in a
circle here and his neck is broke. Well, we don't
know what to say, Travis. Let's just getting buried and stuff.

(01:15:24):
And so we buried him and everything he was taking
gone and uh uh. So years went by. I never
could let it go, and I never could. I always

(01:15:46):
ran across my mind. And then it's all of a sudden,
it's like I don't know if it was a vision.
I one night before I went to sleep. I know
I was not asleep. I don't know if it's like
a vision or I finally was allowed to know what
happened to him. It's like I seen through the creature's

(01:16:09):
eyes as it happened. The creature went into the pastor
first kind of like checking to see if it's okay,
and then he calls the ones behind him to come.
They all start to go across the pasture the horse.

(01:16:32):
They can't get across in time. The horse charges and
he grabs the horse by the neck, and around and
around and around they just go and and he finally,
after like a long time, he takes the horse down,

(01:16:55):
and he takes the horse by the head and hold
it by the neck and twisted his head until everything
crushes and pops, and he just holds it like that
until he stops kicking or breathing or anything or moving.
That's when he raised up off of the horse and
started walking to the woods his own self. And that's

(01:17:18):
when I came out of whatever division, the trance or
whatever that allowed me to see that through the creature's eyes. Wow,
that is supernatural in itself for me to be able
to because see, it was not like I was standing
back watching it. I was actually it was like I

(01:17:41):
was the creature, but I had no control. I just
seen through his eyes.

Speaker 1 (01:17:48):
Yeah, that's definitely supernatural to have a vision like that.
Do you think the sasquatch caused the vision or possibly
the supernatural? As far as like God or anything.

Speaker 2 (01:18:00):
Like that, I've thought about that too. God controls everything
and it's in charge of everything. But there's also these
creatures have abilities that we don't understand, and I believe
they can put a mental block on you. I believe

(01:18:23):
that they can control what you remember sometimes. I believe
a lot of things like that about them. I believe
I was blocked from knowing the truth for years up
until they decided to take the block off of me.
I know this sounds maybe weird, but I believe once

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they have a connection to you. There is some sort
of mental connection there that we may not even know
of that they're very aware of it. Like I said,
not know them, but they know us very well.

Speaker 1 (01:19:05):
Yeah, I agree a lot of people attribute the Sasquatch
to primate creatures, but there's certainly something supernatural about them.

Speaker 2 (01:19:14):
Yes, it is. They know us very well, a whole
lot better than we know them. They also, I truly
believe this, that they read people. They can read people.
They know who would be aggressive toward them, who would
be docile toward them. They know what's in people's hearts.

(01:19:40):
I've never been harmed by them. My brother got white
with a stick, and I think it might have been
juveniles having fun with him or something or us. And
I think they was picking on me during a hard time,
you know, with my emotions. When I was standing outside
talking to my mom when the rocks they never I
had hit me with the rock. The rocks just bounce

(01:20:02):
and kind of rode toward me. I mean, if I
believe they could hit me with the rocks if they
wanted to, but they didn't. And I believe the slap
on my trailer at that time when I first come
out here. That's like, hey, buddy, you're new out here

(01:20:24):
and we're here kind of thing or something. And with
the horse, I just believed that he was defending his family.
I mean, you think what a what fourteen fifteen pound
horse could do to one of their little ones or something.

(01:20:47):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:20:49):
Yeah, absolutely, your son found a TP like structure near
the property. Why do you think they created this structure
and why do you think it was so close to
the property and not super deep out on the.

Speaker 2 (01:21:02):
Oh. My thoughts is on that. It's it's kind of
like not only communicating with each other, but I think
the ones out there didn't know me, oh, or know
us me my son, and because at the time, you know,

(01:21:26):
during that time, it's just me and him living out here,
I think they was just saying, you know, they put
it there to say, you know, hey, we're still around,
we're here.

Speaker 1 (01:21:43):
Yeah, they were certainly communicating something. And the tepee structure
is very interesting. People find them all over North America,
and I don't think it's like a home for them.
I think it's more of a message they're communicating and
there's something more complex behind it all.

Speaker 2 (01:22:01):
It is, and there is there's no way that a
storm of wind can make this. It is just too.

Speaker 1 (01:22:13):
Too geometrical.

Speaker 2 (01:22:15):
Yes, yes, absolutely, I mean it was shocking. Look, if
my son and his friend tried to play a joke
on me, you know, or something, I would have seen
right through what they would have tried to build, it
would have not been anything like this. It's been so

(01:22:36):
long since I've been down there because I told them,
I said, do not touch it, don't get near it.
I said, We're just gonna take a peek at it
from a distance every once in a while. We're gonna
watch it because it means something. I believe it may
be the message is far that some of the others
that may be coming or going, But I believe it's

(01:22:57):
a message for us too, of a sort. And I
just don't know exactly what it is.

Speaker 1 (01:23:02):
Yeah, And was a tepiece structure closer to the power
line strip on the property or was it more in
the deeper woods.

Speaker 2 (01:23:11):
There's an old road bed next to an old fence,
you know, old farm barb wer dilapidated fence. There's a
small pasture on the other side of the fence, but
on the right side it is woods and it's right

(01:23:33):
there in a little small clearing right next to the woods,
just off of the road bed and from where I'm
sitting in my mobile home right now, I'm going to
estimate one hundred and fifty yards away from where I

(01:23:54):
am in my mobile home. Yeah, that's how close they came.
Nothing did it.

Speaker 1 (01:24:01):
Yeah, it's wild to think that they do these things
out in the open, such as hitting the mobile home
and knocking the photos off the walls. And it's just
crazy to think there it was. It was out in
the open, and when you go and look, there's nothing around,
but you know that something was there because you heard it.
You've seen their sign that they left behind. And it

(01:24:23):
just seems like they know us better than we know ourselves,
and they choose certain people and they have this sense
about them and they just know they have a knowing.
It really does seem like.

Speaker 2 (01:24:35):
The yes, they're comfortable out here because they I would
never shoot one. I mean I would never harass one
or anything. The worst thing I would do is probably
just freeze and be in all you know, and try

(01:24:59):
to figure it out. I think they know that they
know us out here, they don't feel threatened, that they
feel comfortable out here. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:25:09):
Absolutely, the sighting of the female sasquatch sounds intense. Can
you describe how that moment unfolded and why do you
think this creature was following you and why your son
was able to lay eyes on it.

Speaker 2 (01:25:24):
Well, like, you know, we we went down to do uh,
just a little bit of clinking with the twenty two's.
We hadn't done it in a long time, and so
you know we'd have our little shooting sessions or competition,

(01:25:44):
you know, and then it would be you know, guns safe,
guns down, hands off, check targets and everything. But let me,
I'm getting ahead of myself. I believe maybe surely us
driving down in the truck, that woman or female bigfoot,

(01:26:13):
she would have had time to just you know, be
gone just hearing the truck coming. I don't know why
she you know, it's wooded, it little watcheous of woods,
you know jack Pine's little hiding spots when you go
through that opening to get to that backside back there.

(01:26:34):
And I don't know why she waited in u in
because we was in the middle of our little clinking section,
you know session, just you know, having fun with target
and like I said, you know show, I mean, why

(01:26:56):
did she show herself and and standing there and stare
at me. I'm talking back. My son said that she
was looking at me intensely. She wasn't moving or anything
like that. She was like a stone, just fixated on me.

(01:27:18):
And I had my back to her.

Speaker 3 (01:27:21):
And then.

Speaker 2 (01:27:25):
Then then her eyes went. She made eye contact with
my son, and then when I realized there was something
behind me, he was looking past me, and the shock
on his face. I spun around. She was gone. But
my son said that as soon as I started turn
when he when she made eye contact with him and

(01:27:47):
he was looking straight back at her, that's when she
took off and just disappeared into the pans, and that
when I got turned around, she was gone then. But
I just don't understand it. He don't either. He don't

(01:28:08):
understand either. He says, you know, we was making noise
with the twenty twos. Why would she even stop like that?
I said, I don't know. I think she made her
presence for a reason. I think she was trying to
say something.

Speaker 1 (01:28:25):
Yeah, absolutely, possibly she had little ones around and the
twenty twos were disturbing the area.

Speaker 2 (01:28:31):
I didn't think of that. I did not think of that.

Speaker 1 (01:28:35):
Yeah, it's a possibility, and your friend from Alaska mentioned
the acoustica, and you guys were out there. I believe
it was him around the campfire, and you could hear
footsteps and whoops and sticks being thrown. Is that correct?
Did I get that right?

Speaker 2 (01:28:53):
Yes? Also whistles in Oh. Like they was taking sticks
and just cracking them and breaking them, you know, like
we would take and put one over our knee to
crack it and break it, to put it in the
fire to shorten it. They was taking and cracking and
breaking them. They was whistling. They was doing the whoops

(01:29:16):
and whistling and walking around down in there, and it more,
It kept getting more and more intense because we was
ignoring them on purpose, like we didn't we couldn't hear them,
you know, we was acting naive. That's the best way
to put it. I said, we got to go down there.
I said, we got to act naive to our surroundings.

(01:29:39):
I says, because if we acknowledge them, they're going to
back up. I knew they would. So we did what
we said we was going to do. And it got
more and more intense, to the point to where my
friend and myself and my son and I said, so
let's pack up and leave because it just got too intense.

(01:30:00):
It just you know, it just it just got it
just got they got a little too close, you know.
Unnerve is you know, we lost our nerve.

Speaker 1 (01:30:12):
Yeah, and the Sasquatch will often communicate by doing woodenknocks
and whistles, So there had to there had to have
been more than just one. It sounds like the clannels
around you or at least a group of them.

Speaker 2 (01:30:24):
Yes, yes, it was more than one. I mean they
was They was intentionally acting like you know, they wouldn't
there ignoreing them. They was having fun with that. They
was getting more and more intense. It's like, what is
it going to take for them to recognize us, you know,

(01:30:47):
in a wait?

Speaker 1 (01:30:48):
And it sounds like a handful of the experiences that
you had were around a fire or a campfire. Do
you think they're attracted to the fire or the smell
of the smoke.

Speaker 2 (01:31:00):
H Uh, They're they're really attracted to fires at night,
I suppose, because you know that the wood smoke and
you can see a fire from a long way off too.
And uh maybe they they like fire too, but you know,
I guess they can't use fire or don't want to,

(01:31:23):
because they're certainly intelligent enough too, But that would give
them a way too, you know. Uh, but uh, let's
see noise. They certain noises I think brings them up
or make them interested. I was out here a pecan

(01:31:46):
limb came down out of one of my trees. I said, so, well,
you know, I'm gonna saw this thing up and stack it,
and then I'll be able to cook me some you know, chicken,
like pit chicken or something with this good pecan, you know.
So got my little steel out, you know, and went
to sawing and jumped the chain, so dropped the tailgate,

(01:32:08):
went working on putting my chain back on, and all
of a sudden, there's a little ways off, you know,
I could tell it's a good ways off that there's
a whop, and I turned around. I knew what it was,
and the only thing that could come out of my
mouth was, Hello, what else am I going to do?

(01:32:32):
But that kind of that kind of brightened my day
a little bit, you know what I mean. I don't
know how to explain it, but yeah, yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 1 (01:32:43):
And do you think these are physical animals, spiritual entities
or something in between?

Speaker 2 (01:32:51):
I think that they can be physical. There's no doubt
whatsoever that they can be physical. But at the same
time time, they have some sort of ability to uh vanish. Uh.
They don't have to go to a portal. I think

(01:33:13):
they have uh the mental capability to instantly open one,
to step in, two, to come and go as they please.
But I believe that they are physical. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:33:31):
Absolutely. And what message you're warning, if any? Do you
believe these creatures are sending to humanity?

Speaker 2 (01:33:44):
That's that's hard. It's hard to say. Uh, maybe let's see. Really,
I think there's something and that I would need to
think on.

Speaker 1 (01:34:06):
Yeah, because it certainly seems like they're trying to tell
us something and they're choosing certain people for a reason.

Speaker 2 (01:34:13):
Yes, I think that we should be more in Teene
with nature and the things around us. And oh, I
don't know. To me, it's almost like they want to

(01:34:38):
say that there's a better way, a better way than
the way we've turned. Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 1 (01:34:48):
And there's a lot of controversy when people mention that
it's there woods not ours, and people claim and it's
true that God gave us dominion over the earth, but
he didn't say destroy name nature and kill every animal
to extinction exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:35:04):
Absolutely. We're supposed to be Stuart of the planet, not destroyers.

Speaker 1 (01:35:13):
Yeah, absolutely, And it seems like that's what's happening today
with large amounts of logging, people building all over the place,
and people just shooting things just to shoot them and
not to utilize every bit of the animal. I think
it's okay to hunt, but when you just start killing
things just because you see a raccoon on your porch

(01:35:35):
and you just toss it in the woods, that's different.
You're not using the animal for your benefit.

Speaker 2 (01:35:44):
When somebody does that like that, I know a lot
of people may not agree with me. If the animal
is not threatening, I mean, you got cases of Rabi's
and things. The animal can't help it, and we can't
help it. We have to protect ourself and the animal
has to be put down to get it out of

(01:36:05):
its misery. But for a perfectly good animal that's just
confused wrong place or something or wanders up for somebody
to just kill it and chunk it in the woods,
that is a form of murder to me. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:36:24):
Absolutely, there's people out there like that. They'll see a
bald eagle or owt and they'll shoot it and be
like ha haha.

Speaker 2 (01:36:30):
I hit it. Yeah. See, those type of people that
do that, they have evil in their heart and the
only reason they're not killing their own kind is because
of they'll get tracked down and put in prison or
get the death penalty. That's the only thing that stops

(01:36:50):
these type of people that can do such things like
that and live with their self. Yeah. Absolutely, that's the
way I believe.

Speaker 1 (01:36:59):
I believe the Sasquatch are watching when people do these things,
and they know people's intentions, and I do. I believe
they pick certain people. And the sasquatch was a symbol
in the Native American art and it was described as honesty.
That's the symbol and the word for Sasquatch. And I

(01:37:21):
believe they pick honest people who have a good heart.

Speaker 2 (01:37:26):
I believe that too, And I hope they look at
me like that because they do have a relationship with
me out here and my son. They do not feel
threatened out here. There's no reason for them to feel threatened,
and they have a way of knowing. Like I said,
I believe they know us a lot better than we

(01:37:46):
know them. And yeah, and like you said, honesty, and
maybe that is the purpose we should be able to
live alongside each other in peace. I would like to
tell you something that my mom said. You know, she

(01:38:07):
wants to get back out come out here with me,
you know, to live out the rest of her years,
you know, and get out of those apartments, you know,
because she has no freedom there, and she's an outdoor person.
And all. I said, well, Mom, you know, if we
can get you out here and now I can get
you some raised bed garden and say you don't have
to bend and all, and you could sit in a
chair and you know, do your thing. And she said, well,

(01:38:29):
I want to plant fruit trees. I said, well, you know,
the hairy the hairy ones are coming and get everything.
She said, that's all right, we just plant extra.

Speaker 1 (01:38:45):
Yeah, she's planning a head.

Speaker 2 (01:38:47):
Yeah that's what she said. She said, that's all, you know,
It just like just natural to her. She said, well
that's all right, we just planned extra. So that's her
way of thinking, you know. And I always has been,
you know, to share, and you know, and I used
to have chickens, you know, and and one day some

(01:39:12):
of my hens they went out into the pasture, went
out further and what they were supposed to do with
their chickens. They don't know any better. I said, Uh,
the hawk's gonna come down one day, and my wife
was looking out back then, you know, she was looking
out the window. She said, the hawk just uh took

(01:39:33):
took one of your chickens. It's down there eating on
it right now. What are you gonna do? I said, so,
I guess it's got a chicken dinner, she said, And
that's it, just like that. I said, yeah, we like
chicken too. You know, sometimes you just you just don't.
You don't. You don't go after something because it's trying

(01:39:55):
to eat, you know. I put the hawk having the
chickens like that in that position, so you know.

Speaker 1 (01:40:04):
Yeah, absolutely. I had a strange experience in South Carolina.

Speaker 2 (01:40:08):
One day.

Speaker 1 (01:40:08):
I went to the Stump House Tunnel and the Sumternational
Forests and Walhalla, and you have to pay to get
in there, and the spot where you pay is just
kind of out in the middle of the woods. And
I got out of the vehicle because I had to
figure out how to pay, and I could hear branches
breaking in the woods. Just something kept breaking branches and
I don't know what it was, but it made me

(01:40:30):
think Bigfoot. And there's been a lot of reports in
Walhalla and the Sumternational Forest, and it was just a
really cool place to visit and I was I'm extremely
grateful that I got to see it. I would definitely
urge you to check it out someday. It's it's a
neat area if you want to take your family.

Speaker 2 (01:40:47):
I'm familiar with the area because when I you know,
driving trucks and stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:40:56):
Yeah, it's a huge forest, forested area. Yeah, and there's
been a lot of reports there, and I can see why.
But a lot of South Carolina has had reports and
there's a lot of tree structures there. Same with North
Carolina and Georgia, and that whole place is just active.
I'm not going to say that anyone who lives there
is going to see Bigfoot, but there's a lot of

(01:41:17):
bigfoot activity there. A lot of reports come out of
the area.

Speaker 2 (01:41:22):
In the area. There's a lot of trout streams in
all two I believe in it up around the Wahalla
area and stuff. I imagine there's certain times a year
the frogs and the trout I imagine it'd be easy
for them to catch trout.

Speaker 1 (01:41:41):
Oh yeah, absolutely, that's a food source for them, and
there's also a lot of missing people in those areas.
You mentioned Missing time. When you encounter the cigar shape UFO,
do you believe that's connected with the Sasquatch activity in
any way.

Speaker 2 (01:41:56):
I don't know, I'm not I'm not sure. Uh. I've
heard that the people have kind of put UFOs and
shash watch together, but so far with my experiences, that's
really not been the case. It's just uh, but I

(01:42:19):
can tell you there was there was uh, you know,
bigfoot activity out there on Grandpa's farm. They would be uh,
something come up from the woodline that just just inside
the woodline at the edge of the pasture, and it
would roar in everything real loud, and it would just

(01:42:39):
echo all the way across the farm, and it scared
all the animals up and everything, I mean, everything got
real quiet and real steel like trying to be as
small as it could. Even the cows would hush up,
you know, and and they would do that for a
while and then it would go away. That was when

(01:43:00):
I was a kid.

Speaker 1 (01:43:01):
Now, But there is a connection there with the UFO
and the Missing Time and the Sasquatch activity, and possibly
it's just two strange things happening in the same area.
But also there's been missing time associated with bigfoot encounters.
So it's just something to note down. But we can't

(01:43:24):
say for sure that it's connected, but definitely food for thought.

Speaker 2 (01:43:29):
It is, absolutely it is. Yes, I would tear you
one more thing too, that just came to mind. I
mean I kind of jumping all over the place, you know,
I want to try to keep things in order to best. Now,
this is a story here from one of my keen
people ancestor by now you know is uh he's called

(01:43:53):
Uncle Posey uh and this had to be back in
it's on that same property too, also that my grandpa
owned the same farm. But back then it was just
a little old shack of a house, you know, with
a fireplace that cooked on and things like that. Very primitive.
You drew the well with a bucket from you know,

(01:44:13):
drew the water from a with a bucket from the well,
that type of thing. But uh, this is like the
story through my family just passed down. It's like must
have been in the nineteen thirties or something like that.
And Uncle Posed during his time, you know, he uh,
he was known to be a drinker, you know, and

(01:44:35):
the way all the women was in the family and
everything like that, if they caught one of their men
take one drink. Oh he's a drunk, you know. I
see he's a drunk, you know. And but anyway, so
Uncle Posey claims he was sitting on the porch and
he looks out across the pasture and here comes this
thing running out of the woods. That it was on

(01:44:56):
two feet running and it had a long face with
fangs hanging out of its face, shaggy, long black hair
hanging down blowing in the wind. The hair was long
enough to blow in the wind, and off of its
hands there was long black claws, and it ran at

(01:45:23):
a real fast run across the pasture, jumps the fence
with one jump, and disappears into the other woods. And
he jumped up and ran inside and says what he
told him, what he's seen and everything, and it says, Posey,
you'd drinking again, are you? And things like that. You know.

(01:45:48):
They didn't believe him, but he carried it to his death.
What he's seen for the truth, you know, told it
for the truth all the way till he died. Now
to me, that don't sound like Bigfoot. That sounds like
a dog man.

Speaker 1 (01:46:05):
Yeah, it certainly does. And a lot of dog man
reports are around bigfoot sighting areas, so it makes you
wonder if there's a connection there.

Speaker 2 (01:46:16):
Yes, I believe it is. And I had a lot
of trouble with coyotes coming around here, getting too close,
you know. They was trying to draw my dogs off.
I think to eat them, you know, or something, but
I've had to I would take just to ship the

(01:46:37):
coyotes up. Sometimes I would take and cut the pellets
and drop them out of a shotgun shell, just to
make a blank so I could because they wouldn't shut up.
You know. They wake me up at night and I
would step outside of my shotgun with the blank and
I would shoot it. And that seemed to run them off,
you know, for a day or two, and it worked.

(01:46:58):
But one night they woke me up and I was
going from my blank shotgainst you and my shotgun, and
it's just as soon as I opened the door, the
cody just showing it, and then there was this thunderous roaring.
It turned into a howl like it was right in
the middle of them. All the codes shut up and

(01:47:22):
that was it, and I just wondered if the dog
man actually has some kind of control over the coyotes
in some kind of way.

Speaker 1 (01:47:36):
Possibly the coyotes were like trying to lure the dogs out.
I've heard people say that the coyotes kind of run
with the sasquatch or they work together, and that could
be the case. I've noticed that with predators, like you
get one predator on a kill and then it attracts more,
and I don't know, maybe they do work together to

(01:47:56):
find food.

Speaker 2 (01:47:58):
Yeah, they animals do work together. Oh and as far
as uh, you know, prey animals or my experience of
hunting deer, which I'm not very good at, you know,
I think a lot of it's the patients and things.
But uh, I've noticed that if you have turkeys to

(01:48:20):
come by, it's a good sign because if you just wait,
that's going to be deer to come behind the turkeys
after a little while.

Speaker 1 (01:48:29):
Yeah, I've noticed that too, And it just seems like
the turkey use the deer as far as like the
deer having a really good smell and hearing, and the
deer use the turkey because they have really.

Speaker 2 (01:48:40):
Good is sight exactly? Yeah, So I think they work together.

Speaker 1 (01:48:46):
Yeah, absolutely, Okay, Travis, do you have any more that
you would like to share? Anything else? You can think
of any questions for me before we end the podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:48:58):
I can't, There's no din't really come into mind right now.
I'm sure that I have a lot more, but I
would have to pull it out of my memory files
from way back. But I've had a lot. I've had
a lot happen. Maybe we can get back together one

(01:49:24):
day soon or something. I've had a lot of experience.
I believe that I've been attacked by demons and such
as that, you know, years back.

Speaker 1 (01:49:39):
Okay, well, in the future, just tell me when you're
ready and we can do a part two and you'll
just have.

Speaker 2 (01:49:47):
To let me know. Okay, what I'm going to do
this time to prepare myself. I'm gonna take a notepad
and I'm gonna try to us as I've remember things
that's happened. I'm going to you know, write it down
and everything so I have things kind of in order

(01:50:08):
and I won't be missing anything. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:50:12):
Well, you did an excellent job today describing these experiences,
and I believe you mentioned the most important significant things
that took place on the property around the Sumternational Forest.

Speaker 2 (01:50:25):
Yes, if you would, you know, just when you get
time or something, if you would pull up Bigfoot sightings
in Laurrenge County, and I think you're going to be
shocked on what's been posted in everything and where you know,

(01:50:45):
the dots are, and a lot of it is around
the Innery River area. And I'm not far from the
Innery River. If you go down, you know, turn on
Filson Roads and you run down Filtson Road toward Barrel Stave,

(01:51:06):
there's a road called Ridge Road. It turns into gravel.
As soon as it turns into gravel, you turn left
onto the gravel, go way off into the woods and
it dead then to a circle you know, cult sect.
And if you park there and go straight down the hill,
there's the Innery River. We used to go down there
and catch those little I call it green spotted channel cats,

(01:51:31):
you know, just just perfect eating size. But we've had
some experience down on that river too, you know, strange
things and sounds and stuff. But yeah, so there's a
lot of activity around the Innery River around this area here.
And I got another one for you if you have time, Yeah, absolutely, Okay,

(01:51:59):
about my a mile and a half down the highway
here on seventy two, this is toward Whipmire. We used
to know some people down there as a family that
lived down there, and we was friends with one of
the girls. My brother actually dated her, you know. But

(01:52:25):
we got to talk and we was up here in
the yard, you know, and they was here, you know,
and we got to talking about different things like that
and all. And somehow another bigfoot come up or something.
This is years back too, I mean, and she said,
and when she started talking about it now, she started

(01:52:46):
getting very emotional. By the time she finished telling her story,
tears was running down her face. And I just want
to tell you that first, so you know just how
intense and all the story was for her, or the
experience was her parents. Her daddy was a preacher, but

(01:53:15):
her mom and dad they worked like second shift in
the meal back then, you know, the cotton meal up
in Clinton or Whitmire, and the kids was trained. They
was not allowed to have a gun to scare off
the possums and raccoons away from the chickens. So their

(01:53:35):
shoe away items was mops and brooms like that, and
they would run out there when they hear the chickens
at night, you know, because thing got dark. They go
running out with a flashlight, hollering and hooping, and they
usually would catch a coon or a possum, and the

(01:53:59):
coons would run off off of the possum, you know,
he would kind of draw up and like, you know,
leave me alone, and they taken shake the mop on
him and harassing till he run away. That was the
way they protected their chickens. So one day the chickens
was going showing out and everything and all, and they says, okay,

(01:54:19):
something after the chickens, Let's go get them. They grabbed
their mops and their brooms and they run out the
door and run with the flashlight and they run up
to the chicken pen. They throw the light up and
there's like three bigfoots standing behind the pen and they
then tore into the back of it where the chickens

(01:54:41):
roosted it on their sticks, and they was reaching in
taking the chickens off of the roost, and all of
them had like two chickens apiece in their hands. And
they come face to face with them and they're standing
there looking at each other. Now the bigfoots has their

(01:55:01):
chickens and they're in the bigfoots. They was not afraid
of these kids, you know, and they just look at
each other, but the kids is frozen. The bigfoots take
the chickens, turn around and walk off into the woods,
and the kids running back in the house terrified, scared. Well,

(01:55:23):
when their parents got home, they told what happened and everything,
and they're daddy, which is a holiness preacher, and all says, see,
I told y'all not to be bad and all that's
the devil coming up after you and stuff like that. Yeah. Wow,
so uh yes, so Bigfoot likes chickens too. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:55:49):
I've heard a lot of reports around chicken coops. And
I've also heard a lot of people mentioning these things
killing their horses. So that definitely sounds like Bigfoot activity.

Speaker 2 (01:56:00):
The yes, yeah, and another thought I have and all
you know, because you know, at one time, I think
during Adam and Eve's time, and I think we've all
vegetarians back then and stuff, but at some point humans

(01:56:22):
started eating meat and fat and so doing I think
it caused our brains to enlarge and to get more intelligent,
if that makes any sense. The Bigfoot, their species or them,

(01:56:43):
they have to have a high protein, high fat diet
to maintain their bodies and their brains. They just have to.
You know, that's just me thinking. Yeah, and I believe

(01:57:05):
you know, they forage and they eat plant life, berries, roots, mushrooms, whatever,
just like us. I believe they're like us. But I
believe that they have to have that protein, that fat
and everything. You know, they sustain their self. There's no

(01:57:28):
way out of it. So they are you know, ominive
of orse YEP.

Speaker 1 (01:57:35):
I would completely agree with that. And there's so much
to learn about these creatures. And I'm excited to hear
what else unfolds from your property in Clinton, South Carolina
by the Sumternational Forests, and I believe you will experience
more keep an eye out for tree structures and any
strange activity, and you'll have to let me know what

(01:57:55):
transpires from here on out.

Speaker 2 (01:57:58):
Oh, I absolutely will. I have your numbers saved in
my phone and I absolutely will. Maybe sometime in the future,
near future, of some sort of something I get straightened
out and everything like that, maybe you could might come
out and do an investigation for your own stuff and
do like a camp out of something another yeah out

(01:58:19):
there on the back.

Speaker 1 (01:58:20):
Yeah, that could certainly be a possibility in the future.
Let me know when things start getting hairy again. If
you have an encounter, there's just like ongoing activity and
it starts a spike and we can put something together
and I'll certainly come out there.

Speaker 2 (01:58:38):
Okay, it sounds good. Well, I'm gonna start keeping notes.
Anything else comes up, anything comes to memory, you know,
I'm gonna write it down and I'll be prepared for
our next talk. Okay, And I'm excited about it. You know,
it's you are the first person it actually has set

(01:59:03):
and listened to me, uh to this extent like this.
Uh when when I first I was at my aunt's
house because I had to have help because of this.
I had my total help replacement tusday and so I
basically had to have some help and I couldn't stay
by myself. And uh, she has like the YouTube TV

(01:59:26):
channel and all and I was just going through it
and I found all this stuff about Bigfoot and all this.
I said, man, I says, there's so much stuff here.
And I ran across your channel and I was hooked.
I started watching and the things you described and the
way you talk, and that you you were listening in
your your non judgmental and and everything, and uh you

(01:59:49):
want serious people only and everything, because you know, I
I I watched some of them stories about bigfoot and everything.
Some of them people talking a lot of if I
hate say it, that's made up and you can see
through it. You know. I think they do it for
like entertainment or something other. I don't. Yeah, I mean

(02:00:10):
I agree.

Speaker 1 (02:00:11):
I mean I even get those reports as well, and
I just post them regardless to let people make up
their own minds. And you know, you can tell when
something really happened and it left an impact on a person,
they describe it with a lot of details and their
story and ever changes. But there's some where it's just like,

(02:00:31):
oh yeah, a lot of red flags.

Speaker 2 (02:00:35):
Yes, yes, what's happened to me? With my experiences and
everything like that. I mean, as long as I have
my memory, it's burnt in my memory. I live with it,
I carry it as part of me, and it's just
that's just see it. I mean, it just happened, you know,

(02:00:56):
And oh I didn't mind the other things and all.
The only thing that was extremely upsetting is a horse
being taken. But he he was what he was, and
he shouldn't have went after him like he done. And

(02:01:18):
there's any any dad he's gonna step in front of
something bad going at his kids, you know where his wife.
That's just it's just nature.

Speaker 1 (02:01:32):
Yeah, absolutely, all right, Travis. Well, I appreciate your time today.
You did an excellent job and I found your encounter,
your report to be very interesting and intriguing. And I
believe you one. I believe all this happened to you.
And yeah, I'm glad that you chose me to share

(02:01:55):
this story with. And yeah, it means a.

Speaker 2 (02:01:57):
Lot to me. Well, it means a lot to me
that you listened to me and everything. And like I said,
I found you and I'm like, I was just amazed,
and yeah, I just I don't have words for it.
I mean to have you listen to me and everything

(02:02:18):
for me to be able to tell my experiences and
past night pass on some some of you know, my
people's experiences, you know, my friends and stuff. And I
would love for you to meet my friend that's from Alaska.
And I talked to him last night and I told
him that me and you was going to talk. We
you know, had plans, and I said, would you want

(02:02:41):
to join in and maybe speak to him. And he says, uh,
I'm not sure. He says, I'm not looking for notoriety.
I'm not looking for any attention. And I said, it's
not like that, Jess, I said, you know, I said,
it's not like that. I said this, Uh, I said.

(02:03:04):
He says, I don't know. He's kind of depressed over
a lot of things and all. But I said, I'll
tell you what I said, Uh, this is gonna I'm
gonna look at it as a sort of a therapy
to be able to tell to tell my experiences, to
get it out. It's like a therapy. Uh. And you

(02:03:24):
you could look at it as the same. Uh, to
be able to have somebody that you can talk to
and go to. It's very understanding with an open mind,
you know. And he said, well, I didn't look at
it like that. He says, let me think on it.
I think that he's gonna want to talk to you though.

Speaker 1 (02:03:46):
Okay, Yeah, that'd be excellent and pass on my information
to him if he decides to do so.

Speaker 2 (02:03:52):
Yeah. And some of his research he's done and he
has audio recordings that will blow you mind too, that
they actually captured, so he might be able to share
those audio recordings with you also.

Speaker 1 (02:04:09):
Yeah, that would be amazing, and certainly send them my way.

Speaker 2 (02:04:13):
Okay, I'll do that, I'll talk to you and but
all right, well, I'm will get off this phone to
let you go. I know you probably busy.

Speaker 1 (02:04:23):
Well, I appreciate your time, and it really means a
lot to me that you took time out of your
weekend to sit down with me and share these experiences.
It certainly helps out the channel, it helps out others
in the area who I've experienced the same things. And yeah,
it's amazing and I appreciate you so much and I'm
so grateful.

Speaker 2 (02:04:42):
Yeah, sure, I am grateful to be able to talk
to you and to find you. Absolutely And maybe some
of the people around here, if they hear my experiences,
some of them may recognize who I am, you know,
maybe not, but just from the area itself, there's people

(02:05:04):
around here that have not come forward and don't know
how to that. There's a lot more people this experienced
that hadn't come forward than it is the ones that
come forward. I agree.

Speaker 1 (02:05:21):
I believe that I think this will inspire and encourage
people to come forward with their own encounters in the
same area. So if someone out there is listening and
they've had a bigfoot encounter near Clinton, South Carolina, reach
out to me and I would like to hear your experiences.
All right, Travis, I'm gonna let you go for now.

(02:05:42):
I hope that you have a great weekend and keep
in touch with me and let me know what else
happens in the future.

Speaker 2 (02:05:48):
Okay, absolutely, thank you.

Speaker 1 (02:05:51):
Yep, thank you, and you have a good day you too.
All right, Travis, thank you very much for sharing your
bigfoot encounters and experiences with me on the channel, and
it certainly means a lot. This to me is a
very credible report. There was a lot of details, and
in the area there's been a lot of bigfoot reports
in the past, and I don't feel like he tried

(02:06:13):
to embellish anything, and he laid out the facts just
as they happened. Hearing about the horse having its neck twisted,
it was really hard to listen to and unfortunately this
does happen when these creatures are around. Have you had
a big foot encounter before in the past, and would
you like to share it with me here on the channel.

(02:06:34):
Feel free to reach out to me at Sasquatch Theory
at outlook dot com. Thank you to all the listeners
and all the people that support the channel. It really
means a lot to me. And until the next one,
you guys be safe out in the forest.

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