Sasquatch Terror in Monongahela National Forest | Matt’s 4th of July Encounter Part 2 - SASQUATCH THEORY

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Welcome back to Sasquatch Theory, and tonight's episode, we return
to the heart of West Virginia, deep inside the Montingalia
National Forest, where strange encounters continue to unfold. Our guest Matt,
joins us once again to share chilling new details about
his family's terrifying Fourth of July weekend camping trip in

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twenty twenty three. From footsteps circling the camper, to his
daughter's face to face encounter with a massive sasquatch to
warning shots fired in the dark woods, this story will
make you question what really roams in America's wilderness. Stay
tuned because Part two of Matt's encounter reveals even more

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disturbing signs of Bigfoot's presence in West Virginia. If you
enjoy these podcasts, please like subscribe and calming down below,
And if you have a bigfoot or Crypti encounter that
you would like to share with me on the channel,
please get in touch with me some time at Sasquatch
Theory at outlook dot com. All right, guys, with all
that being said, let's dive into Matt's new experiences from

(01:08):
West Virginia. All right, Matt, Welcome to sasquatch theory. How
are you doing today? Not good, good, Matt. It's an

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absolute pleasure to have you on the show again. And
I'm glad you contacted me with new experiences. But before
we get into them, if you would tell me about
the first encounter that you had, and then we'll go
into all these new experiences that you've had after the
last time we smoke.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
Okay, all right, Yeah, it was back in see what
was that twenty posh is twenty twenty three, wasn't it?

Speaker 1 (01:57):
I think so?

Speaker 2 (01:59):
Okay, yeah, it was back in twenty twenty three. He
was the summer. It was around fourth of July. It
was a weekend, the fourth Clave. Anyway, we went decided
to go to the Montagelia National Force and it's a
place it's called Rock House. We went up in there

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and we set up at the end of the road
and it's about I don't know, seven miles to the end,
but we set up and this campsite we set up
on was right beside the creek and it's a lot
of laurel and red spruce and just a lot of

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all that kind of vegetation in there.

Speaker 3 (02:44):
Pretty thick.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
But anyway, we had a pop up camper and a tent.
The kids and my wife was going to stay in
the pop up camper and I was gonna stay in
the tent.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
Anyway. Yeah, it was all went normal, was the first.
Let's see.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
We got there Friday evening, set up that night and
set everything up, got the camp site ready and.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
We uh, yeah, everything going normal. We ended up having a.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
Few fireworks, we said a few of my brother was
up there. We was having good time. Well, everybody left
pretty late about midnight. Well, Tash my wife, she she
told me later on.

Speaker 3 (03:32):
After after all this what I'm getting ready to tell
you happened. She thought.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
I got up about three o'clock at night, look into
the uh looked into the camper, but it wasn't me.
I didn't get up anyway. The camper leaned over. She
had her back towards the towards the door, and she
shed just here hard breathing. And I heard up that night,

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but I didn't get up. I just heard something walk around.
I thought it was she let the dogs that we
had two beagles end up. I fell right back to sleep. Anyway,
she should feel that thing or here at breathing, and
thought it was me and she just ignored it and
Roll just went back to sleep. Anyway, that next morning,

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I was just getting up about nine o'clock. I heard
them get up. I was trying to get my stuff on,
working on getting up to well. I heard her let
the dogs out first. They went up the path. I
had a little little restroom like sight set upside a
big hemlock tree. Anyway, Yeah, I was sitting there getting

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my stuff on, and I heard the lane and my daughter,
she says, well, I got to use the restroom.

Speaker 3 (04:50):
Tash.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
My wife, she's like, hang on there, I gotta get
some tool paper out of the car well. She was
digging fred of lane and got the patient. She would
walk a little bit and looked back for mom and
walk a little bit and got up to that hemlock
tree and she uh looked back for Toosh one more

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time than today.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
When she looked up, it was behind.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
A big beech tree and a hemlock tree grow together
and growed out like a bee. And this thing had
its one arm around the tree kind of was holding
on to it, and it was coming around the tree
ad her kind of swinging around the tree at her.
And when she's seen it, she looked from its feet
to its head, and she screamed. Soon as you see

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its face, she screamed. Well, I heard her scream. I
jumped up and had my pistol flame beside me. I
grabbed it and I jumped up. I thought she got snake.
But I could see her running down the path, and
that first thing in my head was she got snake
bit Well. I went to looking her over and I
seen she wasn't bleeding on her legs, she didn't have

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to bite mark or nothing. I seemed she was good there.
And and I said, what's wrong, you know, trying to
get it out of what she just couldn't talk. She
was just just cutting. She's white as a ghost, crying hysterically.

Speaker 3 (06:18):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
Anyway, I finally she got daddy.

Speaker 3 (06:23):
It was big and hairy. It was bigger than you.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
And I was just thinking it was just a tree
or something, you know.

Speaker 3 (06:29):
I didn't know. So I run up the path, got
up the path and got up to her restroom. I
looked straight up the hauller.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
I didn't see nothing, well, something just I just felt
like I had eyes on me. I looked over to
the left of me, and there's a big, huge, flat rock.
It's about edgeo it's about five foot before you help.

Speaker 3 (06:50):
You know, edge oats just like a spruce and stuff
growing on top.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
But anyway, it was right in front of it, and
it was standing in front of a spruce tree, and
it had it been over all it's view its line
of sight and had it been over and when I looked,
I just got like a I don't know, two second
look at and then it broke the run and it
was kind of angle running kind of across from me,

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and I picked the pistol up. I just didn't care
what I was getting down there, and I emptied the
pistol at. It never touched it, just more to get it,
get it moving.

Speaker 3 (07:24):
But anyway it would not.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
It was running so fast it wouldn't have no problem
catching the deer. I'm telling you, it was quite the
fastest thing I've ever seen in the wood.

Speaker 3 (07:31):
It was absolutely booking it.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
Anyway, got out of sight, I realized I didn't have
no more shells or nothing, so I said, I went
back down to the to the camp, got everybody saved.
Everybody gathered up, and I realized my bagels was gone. Well,
I went to kind of get them hunted up and
I don't know. It's about ten minutes later, Rocky, the

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big long straight and those camps such are lined up
on this big street and it's Laurel on the side.
We was on nothing but Laurel and pine and smoke. Anyway,
come out that real thick Laura and he was just
low crawing.

Speaker 3 (08:08):
He was scared to death.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
Took him forever to get up here to me, and
I got him and I said, well, I'm gonna leave
him up to where that's at.

Speaker 3 (08:16):
Just see how he and he wouldn't come. He just
locked it up. He just wanted nothing to do with it,
absolutely nothing. I mean, he was scared.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
So I just grabbed him put him in the dog box.
And I still had one more band that other big
was missing, and I was hunting for him. Finally he
come from the opposite direction, the other way down the right,
come from out of the creek. He come up out
of the creek and he was limping carrying his front
leg it and Hardy getting Hardy walked well. I got

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him up, started inspecting, looking him over between his shoulder blades.

Speaker 3 (08:52):
I guess this thing jabbed him.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
I guess that's my guess because between his shoulder blades.
He had a piece of spruce bark and I pulled
it sticking out of his top of his shoulder. When
I pulled it out, I pulled meat out with it.
Say it was jabb with some forest anyway, Yeah, he
I got him loaded up because he was hurt. I

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put him in the front seat. He was absolutely these
dogs is running the bears, I snowshoe hair hunt and
Dave run in the mountain line, bobcast code using and
they're not scared of none of that.

Speaker 3 (09:31):
And they was terrified of this thing.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
And but yeah, my brother I got he got a
hold of him.

Speaker 3 (09:39):
We come up.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
We searched around after he got up here. We got
some better firepower, but brought a couple more guns up,
just just to be on the safe side. And we
walked around up there and I was looking for tracks
and I ended up finding and it was just a
lot of moss and it was Indians in the moss
and the where they stepped in it.

Speaker 3 (10:03):
And that's all we could find. And they was huge.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
I mean I didn't measure them or anything. And went
back to that tree. Measured a tree and it was
at least eight foot it was two foot taller me.

Speaker 3 (10:16):
Yeah, it was.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
It was a big animal for sure.

Speaker 3 (10:24):
Yeah. Uh but yeah, we me and Tass. She was
talking later on that that day about that. But yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
She asked me, He's like, did you get up the
middle of the night, And I was like no.

Speaker 3 (10:36):
I was like, I was like, I didn't get up
at all.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
Once I went to sleep, I was out, and she
was something come into the camp and stepped stepped on
to the edge of the camper step. The camper leaned
over just a little bit, and she thought I was
checking on everybody, But like I said, that was not me.
That thing, I guess was in the camp about three
o'clock in the morning and said I heard something in

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the gravel out from the camp. None of us was up,
so that had to be in That thing was something heavy.

Speaker 3 (11:10):
So yeah, uh wow.

Speaker 1 (11:12):
Yeah, that's a terrifying experience. And I asked this in
the first interview. Do you feel like it was just
curiosity or do you believe this creature was getting ready
to attack or take your daughter?

Speaker 2 (11:24):
I think it I think had full intention to take her.
I do, and I think when she screamed, I really
feel hardly believe this.

Speaker 3 (11:31):
I think when she screamed. It's surprised it And I
think a lot that's the reason.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
Why a lot of these, like kids of autism and
stuff come up missing is because they don't they can't
interpret danger. And I think that and they don't scream
or you know, get scared, so they don't don't say much.
And because I got a little cousins like that, and
I think that's why a lot of them get are taken.
It is just because they don't interpret danger at all,

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and they don't scream or cry or when they're scared
or anything. And I really honest to believe that. And
I think you hadn't full intensions. If Jack could have
got up to her, I think it would have.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
Yeah, absolutely, And the first red flag, you guys heard
footsteps and heavy breathing. What did you think it was initially.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
Well, I didn't hear the breathing, but I heard the
footsteps at first. It was I just thought it was
the kid or something was up.

Speaker 3 (12:26):
Using the restroom. That's what I thought of Tosh. Like
I was asleep, I was up. We've set you know,
got going early a day and was up late. I
was out.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
But anyway, like I said, I heard the gravel popping,
but Tash heard to breathe. She just thought it was
me looking in and yeah, yeah when she said it
stepped on that camp and it linked to camp or over,
so it had to be any coming in to the
camp at night.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
Yeah, and you saw the creature after your daughter screamed
and told you what it was. Is that correct?

Speaker 3 (13:00):
Yes? Absolutely? Yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
When I walked up there, it was to the left,
it had it had a spruce spruce tree been out
its face, out its line of view. It had it
in its hand and I like a two second look
at it, and it broke the runt. Yep.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
Yeah. And you sent over a photo a while back
of what this creature looked like or something similar, correct.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
Something, So yeah, we went, me and my daughter sat
down and looked, I mean through thousands of thousands of
photos of that and that's probably the closest representation of
that creature. That's probably the closest I could come up
we come up with. And she was talking like how
black its eyes was. I didn't really get the good

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enough look at its eyes, but she said they was
like look like they just get black or its eyes was.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
Yeah, that's terrifying. And after you fired off the warning shots,
this creature tore through the wood. Did it ever scream, holler? Yell?

Speaker 3 (14:03):
Oh? It never made us made a noise, It never.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
It was actually really quiet. You can hear the tree
slapping it. But other than that, there it just booking it.
I mean, it absolutely was setting them down, putting them down.

Speaker 3 (14:16):
It was moving.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
I never seen anything run so fast. I mean it
was crazy how fast that thing could run.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
Yeah, and that's proof that these things know what firearms
are and they will book you.

Speaker 3 (14:29):
Yep, yep.

Speaker 1 (14:31):
And do you believe the creature came back after that incident?

Speaker 2 (14:38):
I think it's still well it come.

Speaker 3 (14:43):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
See, Yeah, we left that day after that happened. We
packed up and rolled. I did it come in that
night before? Oh, before all this happened. But I honestly
believe that was it out. I can't slight but no,
I'd like to say we after all that happened, My
drotter bay geared up, We packed the camp up, and
we left.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
Okay, I don't blame me. So when your wife Tash
heard something step on the camp or step, that was
the night before.

Speaker 3 (15:11):
Yeah, yeah, that was leading up to that morning. Yep.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
Okay, so yeah, they've been around for a while. It's
hard to say if they were going after the children
or if like the smell of the food attracted them,
the sounds of children playing and you guys talking. But
either way, I mean, it came at your daughter. It
was going towards her.

Speaker 3 (15:33):
Yep. It come around.

Speaker 2 (15:34):
It was like had its arm around that tree and
it was swinging, you know, like you know, swinging around
tree with the arms still around it, wrapped around and
it's coming. It just releasing that releasing the tree, and
it was coming at her and that's when she lost
her or screaming.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
Yeah. And you hear so many reports of missing people
where the families walking down a trail and their kids
right behind them and they look away and look back
and the kid's gone. So this sid very easily been
one of the one of those incidents. You know, she
went to the bathroom and we never saw her again.
We contacted search and rescue, law enforcement, and they didn't

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find any sign yep.

Speaker 3 (16:14):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (16:15):
Even like in those incidents, they bring tracking dogs in
and the track and dogs won't pick nothing up.

Speaker 3 (16:21):
I really think in those insidts, what hasn't I do.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
Yeah, absolutely, So after the last time we talked about
this encounter, you had more experiences. You went turkey hunting,
you went back to that forest. Can you tell me
what else unfolded?

Speaker 2 (16:41):
Yeah, I'll tell you about the footprint we found.

Speaker 3 (16:45):
We went hiking.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
This is actually up on the scene Kaiwai, up on
the high country. It's red spruce, red spruce, no am,
And it was a rainy like daves on and off
all day. And I took my snowshoe buckles up in
there with us too, and just to get them out
and white.

Speaker 3 (17:06):
The kids all took that walk. But anyway, it's pretty
steep walked.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
You get up on top of this this high and
knowal and it's probably about I don't know, forty seven
hundred foot in elevation forty five some in that area.

Speaker 3 (17:19):
And we got up on top, was walking up the flat.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
A lot of little mud holes up there and a
little kind of black like mud.

Speaker 3 (17:27):
And anyway, we did find a track.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
I think I might actually send it to It wasn't
a very big track. You can see the toes that
it was covered in water. We can still see it
down in the mud hole and you pretty well make
it all five toes.

Speaker 3 (17:42):
I don't know. It was real flat and wide.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
You can see the break in the middle of the foot,
but yeah, we've seen that track. Then later on I
started this is in the spring. That was back in
the fall. Anyway, Yeah, I was cobbled out and there's
a lot of weird stuff going on while it was

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turkey catting. I went out the roost to gobler the
night before and why was after listen to the listen
for a gobbler who listened for God? Anyway, I heard
something clicking and it would just no stop clicking. It
almost sounded like it was a plastic bottle. And I
know no one else was out in there, but anyway,

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just click, and that's that's what I kept hearing. And
I walked around, never did see nothing, and just a
little weird things like that was happening. Just we heard
a hollering out in there, heard loud wood knocks a
couple of times. Well this went on for about a
week and it was like the second or third week

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of golber season. I was back out in there by myself,
and it's a pretty good walk about three miles out
this trail to where I hunt and I every every
year I killed golbro out this place, and every year
I want. For the past fifteen years, I haven't won
a time without killing a golber out in this area.
But anyway, it's something but different this time, it just

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the gobbler wasn't out in there this year. Couldn't figure
out why they wasn't in there. And finally after a
third week, I got on one and I but he
just was like trying to get through the area. I
thought he might call him up and he would go back,
and then I call him back up and he just
wouldn't come in and I and so I was like

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work him away out the shredge, making different setups, and
I was on by the end.

Speaker 3 (19:37):
Then the last setup I had.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
On him was on the very end of this point
in a big flat and he uh just finally hushed
up and I was just like, man, I was like,
I've never had this trouble out in here, and this
whole the whole time I was in there on this
gl where I just had this this a weird duck
feeling just my hair would stand up on end, just

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just like was being washed.

Speaker 3 (20:00):
I just was constantly just back in looking back just
had it. And I normally don't ain't like that in
the woods.

Speaker 2 (20:06):
I mean, I've growed up, you know, hunting in the
woods for almost thirty years and just don't spook like that.
And he uh, Anyway, I got up, got stuff up.
He was about ten thirty, yeah, probably about ten thirty
in the morning. Sun was starting to pop up over
the ridges. Good and everything shine.

Speaker 3 (20:26):
Okay, Well, I got back out.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
I had a little bit of walking back into the
path and I got into the path and I just
walked up the path and I just I still was
still in that same area.

Speaker 3 (20:35):
I can still see where I was set up because
you can see a long ways a couple hundred yard
out through there.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
And I finally just felt, like I said, I just
felt like I had eyes on me. Man, I just
felt spooked and I just had to turn swung around
real quick. It looked and every there there was a
perfect outline. It was almost like a person, but it
was like a giant person, just a perfect can see
the head. The sun was hit in the back and
the fate that it was just black. You know, if

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an outline like a giant person, you.

Speaker 3 (21:05):
Could see the head. The head came up as a cone.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
The shoulder and the arms was really long. I'd see
the sunlight between its arms and its hand. This fingertips
us almost down past its knees, really long, arms tall.
But anyway, I mean, I was like, and as soon
as I seen it, I seen it for just a
second and it stepped in behind this looked like giant tree.
Just it looked like a giant bread oak or something

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stepped in behind it disappeared.

Speaker 3 (21:33):
I was like, hey, cause I didn't. I mean, I
was by the fell. I wasn't gonna stick around, just
you know.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
I went ahead and got out there, and well, I
got back the truck and I was like, the next
Dad told Coade, I said, I wanted to back out
there to measure where where I seen that at and see,
you know, compare me and that to get you know,
see to get a hike comparison. Well we did, and
I put him where I was at and I went
found the tree. But what it was I thought it

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was a giant but it was a bunch of oaks,
crowdewn one stump. It was like eight of them grow down.
But it was standing behind that and there was a
limb hanging down where that thing's head was right below it.

Speaker 3 (22:13):
And I was a good I was a good two
and a half foot.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
Below at limb and so it was big, really really big.
But that was my encounter there with that. My brother
he had a couple of encounters while golber hunt and
heat in that same area, calling a golbler something screened
pop its lung since baillered out and completely scared the golbler.

Speaker 3 (22:37):
But yeah, there's a lot activity going on in there.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
Yeah, that's terrifying. And that certainly sounds like a sasquatch.
I mean, no human being has a conical shaped head.
And you guys went back in did a size comparison,
and it was way taller than you.

Speaker 3 (22:55):
Oh yeah, way taller me.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
I mean it was no comparison in the height, I
mean not even like and I even I went and
switched spots and had him to stand there in like
the body size, I mean, it was way way wider,
way tall, I mean, just so much bigger than what
he was.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
Yeah, and yeah, did you hear any wood knocks? Did
you feel like you're being paralleled? Did anything strange happen
before that encounter?

Speaker 2 (23:22):
Well, not that day when I say, now, the time before.
I've heard in that area. I've heard woodknocks a couple
three times out in there, just just the.

Speaker 3 (23:34):
Like I said, never had that issue.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
Hunted out there for fifteen years, never had to do
any kind of issues out there.

Speaker 3 (23:40):
None.

Speaker 2 (23:41):
And oh and I did later on, I found a
pile of turkey feathers.

Speaker 3 (23:48):
They was usually when a code or.

Speaker 2 (23:50):
Something catches, it catches a turkey, it's just feathers everywhere.

Speaker 3 (23:54):
Well this was different. It's I found a pile of feathers.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
I don't know, it's like about a foot high, and
they were stacked in a perfect pile, like something set
there and plucked and just.

Speaker 3 (24:07):
Put those feathers in a pile. I did find that
out in there that same area.

Speaker 1 (24:14):
Interesting, I found similar international forest during turkey hunting season.
I went back to an area where a guy claimed
he saw a sasquatch across the trail and it started
shaking a tree. But I noticed a bunch of piles
of turkeys, And the only thing I could think was
maybe people killed turkeys, and you know, they took out

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the breast right there and just left the remains. But
I don't know. It was it was strange. It didn't
look it was.

Speaker 3 (24:40):
Yeah, that's why it was just the weird I mean.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
And when I found it wasn't on a path, it
was just kind of down off on the on it
it's a laurel. The cricket runs down. It's the laurel
face and it's super steep. If you've been to Wish,
it's it's it's straight up and down on the river
faces and creek and he's creek faces. But yeah, it
was down on a bench man. Yeah, where I found

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always pow powered up failures. That's just weird, strange strange things.

Speaker 1 (25:11):
No, Yeah, for sure, there's so much woods in West Virginia.
It's wild. If you look on a map, a lot
of it's just pure wilderness. And I've taken a report.
I took a report from the Roaring Planes Wilderness Area
in West Virginia. And I don't know if you ever
heard that encounter. Guy was camping with his friend and
the sasquatch came into camp and just like hung out

(25:34):
with them. It's a wild encounter. But the guy, he
sounds really sincere. I talked to him before the interview
and when I did the podcast, like it was a
word for word exactly what he told me months before that,
so I feel like he's telling the truth. Yeah, And
it ended up coming back another time that he was
camping there, and it was just the strangest thing just

(25:55):
to hear someone interacting with the sasquatch like that. But yeah,
there's so much wood there. I mean, I just see
it as one giant forest from like the Allegheny National
Forest and New York going down into like the Anderondacks.
And yeah, I've taken reports from George Washington and Jefferson
National Forest and that pours into the Daniel Boone National

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Forest the Chattahoochee, and I mean, it's just solid woods
out there. I'm sure there's people on roads, but there's
more woods than people in roads exactly.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
And you know, something like that was that it wouldn't
have no problem of aiding people, you know, to want
you know, you get lucky and see one once in
a while, one gets curious. You know, that's about the
only sighting. I mean, if they want to stay hidden,
wouldn't have no problem. But I mean there's a lot
of wood wilderness out there.

Speaker 1 (26:46):
Yeah. Absolutely. And after that encounter at the camp site,
what are your thoughts about the Sasquatch, and what are
your feelings towards them when you enter into the woods.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
Well, I don't really have new hard feelings to them.
I mean I'm aware of them. I think they're about
like you know, like kind of like people. You know,
there's good ones and they're bad ones. I don't think
that all of them have bad intentions, but I think
there is a few that does have bad intentions.

Speaker 3 (27:16):
Like I say, I do carry protection with me all
the time, I mean, just in case.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
But yeah, I mean, as long as they leave me alone,
I'll leave them alone.

Speaker 3 (27:27):
But if everyon't come at me, and it would be different.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
But yeah, I don't have no hard feeling to them
at all. I mean.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
Yeah, yeah. And have you found any tree structures since
the last time we spoke.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
Yes, I have found a couple. I found something up
on Cheap Mountain on the National Force. Up there, I
found they It was just something had took spruce trees
that was I looked around.

Speaker 3 (27:58):
They didn't break out, they didn't.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
This was brought there and it was brought up almost
like to a tepee, about seven or eight spruce trees
in and it was a marking. I think it I
think it is it to mark like trailways walkways there
is because this was in a spruce thicket and on
both sides.

Speaker 3 (28:18):
Was real thick.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
He couldn't hardly get through it. And through this it
just growed up spruce. What it is inside this thicket,
and it's easy walking across. And that's the way I
travel when I'm hunting up there. I traveled through that
easy walking to get back and forth to different thickets
and and every place I every every time I find
a place that usually I find those in those areas,
and I think they were just like markings for you know,

(28:42):
for a for a.

Speaker 3 (28:45):
Walkway through there.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
I think walking a trail or something for him. That's
my theory on it. I mean, but anytime I find
those openings, like it's easy walking, I always easily find
them in there.

Speaker 1 (28:58):
Yeah, very cool, And I do believe they're communicating with
each other. They're leaving sign behind and also showing their
status within the groups. And yeah, yeah, it is freaky
when you hear wood knocks. I think, like you said,
there's so much woods out there that these things communicate
with each other by wood knocking, and they don't necessarily

(29:19):
have to see each other or smell each other. As
long as they can hear and communicate in ways that
we just don't understand. They're able to evade humans and
do what they do.

Speaker 3 (29:30):
Yeah, yeah, yep, yeah, that's absolutely right. Yeah, because we
when I had that one parallel me on the river.

Speaker 2 (29:41):
That time, and it was staying Loway's time, but it's
on the other side of the river done all what
it with wood knock and all the way up through
or you would do at and I'm just waiting for
one to come off on the other side. But luckily
it never happened. But that's what I was thinking. I
was going through my head at that time. But yeah, yeah,
I think they u that for a form of communication.

Speaker 3 (30:02):
I do.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
Yeah. And have you spoken with any family members or
friends or ran into anyone in town that's seen these
things or had experiences.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
Yeah, more and more people has spoke up about it
a lot more.

Speaker 3 (30:17):
And what you think. Yeah, I had a buddy at
my mine I work with.

Speaker 2 (30:23):
He has a camp over in Greenbarr County back in
the middle of nowhere, and he had something come up
a couple of different times and slapped the side of
his camp and yeah, knocked a couple of times.

Speaker 3 (30:36):
It's the hard it knock stuff off the walls.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
Yeah, he's heard wood knocks out there, right, He's heard
were really weird screaming and hollering going on.

Speaker 3 (30:50):
Yeah, there are a lot.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
Of people coming out talking about a lot more in
what you think. Just a lot of people just don't
say nothing about it.

Speaker 1 (30:59):
Absolute And once you have an experience or an ie
siding with one of these creatures, it certainly changes you
and you don't look at the forest the same way
as you did before.

Speaker 3 (31:10):
No, you don't. It makes you more aware when you're
out there.

Speaker 1 (31:14):
Yeah, and that's that's how you find stuff, And you're
just more open to it because you know they're out there,
So all of a sudden, you're looking for tree structures,
you're listening for wood knocks or any little sounds in
the forest, even if it's a twig snap.

Speaker 3 (31:32):
Yeah, yeah, exactly right, Yeah, yep.

Speaker 1 (31:37):
It's it's terrifying, honestly, especially when you're out there at
night because you know what roam's in those woods.

Speaker 3 (31:44):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (31:45):
Yeah, yeah, I coon hunt at night. So yeah, I've
heard woodknock ins just several times coon hunting.

Speaker 3 (31:53):
I usually like when.

Speaker 2 (31:55):
I ride tree a coon, I'll take a I'll take
another stick. I'll beat on the tree to get the
coon at I'll get the coon to look a lot
of time when I ain't want to look down, ain't you?
And and I've had them to answer back at me
several times. By doing that, be knocked it on the
opposite ridge, you'll get knocks on the other side. Wow.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
Yeah, that's amazing. I'd always hear old timers say there's
things in these woods, and I never understood what they meant.
I was just thinking like evil spirits or I don't
know what they were running into. And I never thought
I'd become one of those people. And it's just like,
there are things in those woods that people don't understand.
And I found out that it was cryptid creatures. Yeah, yep,

(32:39):
and the paranormal, which is kind of scary.

Speaker 3 (32:41):
To think, but it is. It is, Yes, it is.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
And I don't know. Just like listening to all those
encounters online, there's a bunch of different channels. I listened
to Mysteries Unknown and man, there's some spooky encounters, especially
with like dog Man, missing people, just horrifying scenes and
it's just like, man, you hear all these stories of
people like gifting sasquatch and having good encounters, but if

(33:09):
you really dive deep into it, there are some some
brutal ones out there.

Speaker 2 (33:14):
Yeah, yes, scary, yeah yeah yeah. Hopefully if I running,
you know, face face with another one, it's it's a
nice one.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
Yeah, oh yeah, yeah absolutely, And I mean there's many
dangers in the woods, whether it's cryptid creatures you run into,
like an angry bear, a mountain lion. I was actually
watching a video this morning. It was from the hunting
public and they set up there their deer stand in
a wilderness area. I'm not sure where they were, but

(33:47):
they heard screams. I mean it sounded like someone was
screaming like bloody murder, and you could tell there was
like a dispute, like someone was just like screaming no, no, no, please,
And all of a sudden you just hear this one
gun show and then a few minutes later you hear
multiple gunshots. But that's scary because yeah, these these horri fying,
like these horrible things that happen to people, that people

(34:10):
bring on each other, that people do to each other,
can happen in national forests, Like what better place to
commit a horrible act than a national forest. So if
people are out there hunting, looking for bigfoot camping, just
know that there are bad people out there. Someone's gonna
dump a body or do something horrible. That would be
the place.

Speaker 3 (34:28):
That would be the place.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
I mean, they're just there's no one around. Usually, Like
when I'm out there hunting, it's me. That's only one
unless I got my kids with me. But I hunt
that cheap mountain. All of these areas, it's just you
and that's it, and you once in a while you'll
see somebody. But yeah, I mean I always wonder that
when I run into just like one guy out there

(34:50):
in the middle of nowhere, it's just like, what is
this person up to?

Speaker 1 (34:54):
You just never know.

Speaker 3 (34:56):
You just don't yep.

Speaker 1 (34:58):
I know, Like in the Mark Twain National Forests, they
say like people have meth labs out there and if
you run into them or if you find them, they'll
they'll take you out because they're afraid that you're gonna
rat on them. It's like, Brian, I don't run into
something like that.

Speaker 3 (35:14):
That's it, yep, yep.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
But you got to know that if there are people
out there like that, hopefully the Sasquatch are harassing them.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
That's right, Hoop are given a real rough time.

Speaker 1 (35:28):
Yeah. Absolutely, you sent me some other photos too, did
did we talk about everything you shared? Let's see what
what do you think the arch means? Like I see
that a lot in the forest.

Speaker 3 (35:47):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (35:50):
I don't know if it's like you said, it's it's
a form of communication or it's just marking a trail
across these ridges. I don't I wanted the same thing,
but I found a lot of them, well not a lot,
but several of them times I'm out in the woods.
But yeah, I got a couple theories on that, but

(36:11):
you know, just a theory.

Speaker 1 (36:14):
Yeah, I wonder that myself, like we spoke about earlier,
like is this just communication between the clans? But I've
also found these structures in areas where people camp, where
they hunt, whether it's like by a food plot or
a trail, and it's just like maybe somebody was in
there one day camping and these things got pissed off,
like that's their way of just like showing their dominance.

(36:36):
And yeah, people are in there and they hear like
limbs breaking, trees falling, So maybe it could be like
a territorial display when people find tree structures.

Speaker 2 (36:47):
Yeah, yep, yeah, I wonder it too. I mean, it's
just there's a couple a couple of reasons they might
do it.

Speaker 1 (36:55):
I mean, yeah, And I don't think I posted this
in the last interview. You sent me that photo of
your dog, your beagle, and that wound. Yeah, yeah, that wound.
That was a deep wound. Do you think it like
jabbed it with like a stick or the dog was
trying to get away from it and get injured.

Speaker 3 (37:17):
I think so.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
I think I think when those dogs they run up
that same path that bathroom was on where she was
walking up.

Speaker 3 (37:25):
But yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (37:26):
Think it where it was behind that big himlock split him,
locking beech tree.

Speaker 3 (37:30):
I think when it come up by her, it wanted
it out. Get those dogs.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
They know, they know what dogs are, and I think
he just wanted it out. And I think he got jabbed.
I'd dry, honestly do because if he'd have run into that,
that would have hit it. You know, dogs when they
run into while they're running, it's hit him. It's in
the chest area more like her in the side that
was straight down in between his shoulder blades.

Speaker 1 (37:56):
Yeah, and your daughter was young when she had that encounter.
Does she still recall the encounter today?

Speaker 2 (38:03):
Yeah, yeah, she still does.

Speaker 3 (38:06):
We still talk about it once in a while.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
She says she can't she as vivid as she did,
but she still remembered it really well.

Speaker 3 (38:16):
Yeah, yep.

Speaker 1 (38:19):
Yeah, that's scary to think about, especially being a child.
You live in a wilderness area, correct.

Speaker 3 (38:26):
Yes, yeah, I'm my closest neighbor by quarter mile.

Speaker 1 (38:31):
Yeah. Do you ever hear anything at home? Do you
feel like these things are around your house?

Speaker 3 (38:37):
Not similar?

Speaker 2 (38:37):
I got, I got, you know, my bagels where I
live back, I leave mind old run willis most of
the time.

Speaker 3 (38:44):
But yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
Mean I've heard, I've heard hollering before and I and
once I get back over towards her farm, get back
in there.

Speaker 3 (38:54):
I've heard. I've heard woulden't all come back in there?

Speaker 2 (38:56):
A few times. I don't think they come real real close.
They do there, They're pretty quiet about it. But yeah,
And like I said, I think and my dogs they
know what because I think they run into him a
lot more than what I do and what we realize
because whenever it every time I've had cameras and was
haded by dogs. It absolutely they don't want nothing to

(39:17):
do with it. I mean absolutely nothing to do with them.
It scares them plumb to death.

Speaker 1 (39:23):
Yeah, and if these things come around in the future,
you're definitely going to be able to pinpoint it and
know what's going on. And oh yeah, yeah. I mean
it's good to be aware because you never know if
you're going to run into these things. So if people
believe or they don't believe, it's just good to know
because if you're out in the forest, you never know
if it's going to happen to you.

Speaker 3 (39:43):
That's right. Yeah, they close to your animals. I mean
you're dold. They they know, and they will know way
before you will too.

Speaker 1 (39:51):
Oh yeah, yeah, for sure. Have you ever noticed your
dogs just going nuts out of nowhere?

Speaker 3 (39:58):
I've been a few times. It was night.

Speaker 2 (40:02):
I was I was snowshoe hunting and it come up
pretty good snow and I was walking back out and
I've hunted all day and it was dark and my
light were just going dead, and my dogs they just
they was walking ahead of me and they just dropped
back about my pace and they were just watching the
edges of the road and they just spoop.

Speaker 3 (40:26):
But it gave me a bad feeling.

Speaker 2 (40:28):
I was still had a long way to walk too.
It was it was a but nothing happened. But yeah,
they just acted really really strange. No.

Speaker 1 (40:38):
Yeah, for sure, I feel like we'll be doing a
part three in the future since you're always out in
the woods.

Speaker 3 (40:44):
Yes, I pretty well stay in it when I ain't working. Yeah, yep.

Speaker 1 (40:50):
Has it changed the way you hunt, like when you
go in in the morning and at dark or stay
until it gets dark. Has that changed at all?

Speaker 2 (41:00):
No?

Speaker 3 (41:01):
I still.

Speaker 2 (41:02):
I mean if I hunt and I had to stay active,
don't and I.

Speaker 3 (41:05):
Can't hunt too. I'm just more aware.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
I just listen more, you know, listen carefully and pay
closer attention and stuff.

Speaker 3 (41:15):
You know, I'm just more aware about it.

Speaker 1 (41:19):
Yeah. Absolutely. Do you have any questions for me, anything
that you'd like to ask or anything else you'd like
to add or share.

Speaker 3 (41:32):
I think that's that's pretty much it. Uh. I think
that pretty well covered online end of it. Have you
have you had any more encounters that you've seen.

Speaker 1 (41:48):
No, I haven't seen anymore, but I've had more experiences,
like as far as Wooden Knox, finding tracks, seeing like
strange lights out in the woods, hearing vocalizations that are unknown.
But no, I haven't ran into another one. I want to,
but it just hasn't happened for me yet.

Speaker 3 (42:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (42:09):
Yeah, Well, like I said that that one I seen
the still wet it was. I wish I would have
got a closer look at it, but like I said,
it was just a silhouette. And when it's it just
it didn't stick around their once I swung around seen it,
that's when it stepped out of you.

Speaker 3 (42:28):
It was just And I think they've watched a lot
more one than when we what.

Speaker 2 (42:33):
You know, from what we think too, you know, like
I said that thing, if I wouldn't have turned around,
I never know it was even standing there.

Speaker 1 (42:41):
Yeah, it seems like these things start becoming more active
during the springtime, when Turkey season begins, the leaves start growing,
and although it is easier to look for sign and
go camping in the winter time, I've noticed that the spring, summer,
and fall time or the most act of times.

Speaker 2 (43:01):
Yeah, yep, yeah, I seem like it's my most most
time I have my encounters or have you know, weird
stuff it happens. I mean the wintertime, like I was
taking by walking my dog I've never seen any tracks
or anything, but I've I've heard stuff up there, but
I've just never never seen any tracks or anything up

(43:24):
in there.

Speaker 1 (43:25):
Yeah. Absolutely. That's what boggles my mind the most is
when it snows and you go looking for these things,
trying to find their tracks, it's just like, wow, there's
no tracks. You think, No, A clan, a group of
these creatures would leave long trackways and you'd be able
to follow them. But it's just like, that's how good
they hide because in the winter time you don't find
their tracks. Some people do, but yeah, some people do.

(43:48):
But yeah, makes you wonder where they go.

Speaker 2 (43:53):
Yeah, it makes me kind of think of a just
migrate south a little bit. I mean, that's that's I
don't know.

Speaker 3 (44:00):
It just blows my mind.

Speaker 1 (44:02):
Mm hmm. Yeah, the mystery continues.

Speaker 3 (44:05):
That's right, all right, Matt.

Speaker 1 (44:10):
Well, you did an excellent job, and I appreciate you
for staying in touch with me and openly sharing your
experiences in addition with what you shared before, and I've
never I've never forgot about it. I still remember it
to this day. Your daughter's screaming and this creature coming
at her, and you guys firing shots. To to to
scare the creature off. And yeah, definitely keep a close

(44:32):
eye on your kids any listening, because you never know
these things are out there. Yes, you're all right, Matt.
I'm gonna let you go. I appreciate you. Yeah, stay
in touch, Okay, I will thank you, all right, thank
you bye. That concludes part two of Matt's incredible story
from the Montingalia National Forest. Encounters like this remind us

(44:55):
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