She’ll Never Forget the Eyes: Mississippi Dogman & Bigfoot Encounters | Life Changing Encounter - SASQUATCH THEORY

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Welcome back to Sasquatch Theory. In today's episode, we head
down to the back roads of Mississippi, where Tony and
Brenda shared chilling encounters with creatures that defy explanation. Years ago,
Brenda came face to face with a terrifying being while
driving at night, a dog man with glowing red eyes
standing over a roadkill. The site left her shaken to

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her core, a memory she says she will never escape from.
During the interview, Brenda kept mentioning the eyes of the creature,
and she kept saying the eyes, and you can tell
that whatever this thing look like truly affected her for
the rest of her life. I often hear people in
the comments say I believe in Bigfoot, but I don't

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believe in dog man, And to me, that's really rude
to say to someone with an encounter like this Because
you weren't there, you don't know what they actually experienced.
Can you imagine telling people the truth about a traumatic
event and people just writing you off and saying, oh,
you're lying. Well, that's pretty much what people in the

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comments are doing, and it's highly disrespectful. I don't appreciate it.
And if you have a negative comment, to leave behind
then go take it elsewhere. Later on, Tony uncovered possible
sasquatch activity near a lake, hearing powerful wood knocks and
discovering intricate tree structures woven into a dome similar to

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a den. Together, their stories paint a haunting picture of
cryptid activity in the Deep South. Buckle up. This episode
is one you don't want to miss. If you enjoy
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your bigfoot encrypted encounters with me by email. With all

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that being said, let's dive into Tony and Brenda's encounters
from the state of Mississippi. Tony and Brenda, Welcome to
Sasquatch Theory. How are you guys doing today?

Speaker 2 (02:17):
What dou Hello?

Speaker 1 (02:19):
Hello? Good to have you guys on the show. And
it's a pleasure to finally speak with you. If you
would tell me about these encounters and experiences that took place.

Speaker 3 (02:31):
Well, I was getting ready for work that morning and
I had to be the work at five I left.

Speaker 4 (02:38):
I left at my house around four and I would
take the back roads before I got on the main
highway and the one road I was going down was
Sycamore Road, and it's just a little two lane back
road road, you know.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
And as I was going, I was a like, go
down on top to me when I was going down
the hill, and when I talked to him, my car
lights hit this I thought was a dog on the
side of the road. And as I got closer to it,
he stood up. And when he stood up, the eyes

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were just bone and chilling red. I'll never forget those eyes.
And I just throw was really driving down the road.
I just kind of like what am I looking at?
You know? My eyes wasn't rastroom with my brain. I
was actually seen. So as I got closer to it,

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like I said, he stood up and it was just
it was like, wow, what is that? Well, there was
a stop sign, like I don't know, like right there.
I didn't even stop the stop side. I just blew
through the stop side. I was so nervous. I stopped
at the only store that was opened, and I went in,

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got me some of the drain and I asked that
man there and I said, because we just moved here,
we hadn't been here long. And I asked the store clerk,
I said, do we have black bears in the area,
and he said, well, we're known to have bears, and
I said, well, I think I just saw one. Because
I didn't really want to tell him what I saw him.

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I think I was crazy woman. He goes said, yeah,
we're non I have black bears. And when I got
in the car was like, that wasn't a black bear.
The eyes were just just chilling red. It was unreal
what I saw. I don't know. He's probably stood about
seven and a half eight foot tall. He had long arms,

(04:48):
he had hands like a human with marm claws. His
head looked like a wolf. But through my eyes, I'll
never forget the his eyes and the teas his hands
looked like a wolf. It was, and it looked like
he was eating something because it was, like I said,

(05:11):
he was being over and he grows up and I
was in like a little Ford escort, and that thing
could have killed my roof off if he wanted to.
And of course, you know, I got hold that afternoon.
I told I told my husband about it, and he said, well,
can you draw it or something of draw ark?

Speaker 2 (05:34):
That was later though, But yeah, but.

Speaker 3 (05:39):
I've never I've never seen anything like that ever in
my life. I mean I see pictures of it on
TV or whatever, on books or whatever, but never actually
personally seeing this creature that I saw.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
It was very bone chilly.

Speaker 3 (05:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
In what state?

Speaker 2 (05:59):
Was this in?

Speaker 3 (06:01):
Mississippi?

Speaker 2 (06:03):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (06:04):
And do you think the creature was a black color?
I know it was nighttime, but could you tell what
color it was?

Speaker 3 (06:11):
Black? Okay?

Speaker 1 (06:15):
Were the eyes glowing or were they just red from
the tail lights?

Speaker 3 (06:20):
Mm? Hmmm?

Speaker 2 (06:21):
Tail lights?

Speaker 3 (06:22):
What do you mean till lights?

Speaker 1 (06:23):
Well, you said you're in a vehicle, like when you
hit the brake. Did its eyes light up? Okay? The
headlights did? Did the eyes shine from the headlights though,
is what I mean?

Speaker 2 (06:34):
Or?

Speaker 3 (06:35):
Yeah? They're like a blood red. They couldn't get no redder.
That's how I mean. It was just the eyes. You
want do you want to look away from the eyes? The
eyes were just like magnet to you kind of if
that makes sense. It's really hard for me to explain.

(06:58):
It's like a draw. It drew you to, you know,
to look at him. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
Yeah, like they were mesmerizing.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
Yeah that's the word mesmerizing. Yeah, yeah, it was. I
mean I was scared. He could have really if he
really wanted to think he could have whatever to a
card because of the hands, the hands and the eyes

(07:32):
and the hair. He had a lot of hair like
will hair, like a shaggy dog kind of you know.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
Yeah, that's terrifying to know these things are truly out there.
And yeah, did it ever chase the vehicle or did
it just stand there as you drove by?

Speaker 3 (07:56):
He just it just stood there as I drove by.
I mean I was pretty close to it. It was
right on the side of the road. We call him
back roads broads, probably big enough for one car to
get down.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
So this is a rural area with a lot of
woods from here to where she saw it. From here,
it's about ten miles north of us. And like you said,
it's all the roads out here are back roads, and
where she solidated heavily wooded area.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
Yeah, and I've heard people say that dog man are
just misidentified bigfoot. You know for sure, this was no
sasquatch creature. This was something different, right, This.

Speaker 3 (08:41):
Was something that was it real to me. It's like
it it's hard to explain it's not a big foot
and a sasquatch, but it wasn't. It wasn't from around here.
If you get what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
Yeah, I completely understand. And what is your theory about
the origins of these creatures? What do you mean, like
where they came from? What do you think they are?

Speaker 3 (09:15):
I take it to science fault if it went wrong,
it's what I think, and they just let them out
or some I don't know where it came from. I'm
laughing about it because it's it's really something that you
won't ever forget. Let me just say this, if you

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ever see one, you won't never forget it. And people,
if you tell your story, people don't think, Wow, this
lady's nuts or whoever tells the story. It took them
a while to believe me, you know.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
Yeah, but I'm sure this encounter affected you for a
long time.

Speaker 3 (09:57):
Yeah, it thanks to me. I mean, even though I
didn't actually firstly walk up to him or it I
was driving in my in my vehicles, it's still well, really,
if I'm driving late at night like that, I'm still
leary of what may be out there. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
So it was probably looking for roadkill or it had
something dead on the side of the highway, right, Well.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
That's what he looked like he was eating.

Speaker 3 (10:25):
He did look like he was eating to me because
when he when he rows up, when my car lights sitting,
that's when he rose up. I was probably, I don't know,
three or four feet from him at the time. Maybe,
I don't know. I'm not good with distance, but I
was pretty close to him. I can see it looked

(10:47):
like he'd been eating something. Did you say it was
just off the shoulder, yeah, the road. Yeah, he's right there.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
So from the shoulder of the road to where you're
sitting in the car, you're talking about fifteen twenty feet.

Speaker 3 (10:57):
Well okay, well okay, I mean said I ain't very
good with.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
Me distance, but still pretty close though, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
Close enough. I too close that I wanted to be. Yeah,
he could have he could have cut my he could
have got my card. And with the claws, the falls
that he had, call them claws. They looked like they
were hands with nails.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
People describe the hands like raccoon hands. Was it like that,
but a lot bigger with long nails.

Speaker 3 (11:34):
No, it was human hands, sir.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
Yeah, well, like raccoons kind of have like human hands
kind of they're sort of yeah, hands.

Speaker 3 (11:42):
For claws and hair and he had the you know,
the long hair. Yeah, they were human hands.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
Yeah, it's a good thing. It just stood there and
it didn't pursue you. I've spoken with a lot of
people who have had encounters like this, but with sad Squatch,
they'll drive on the roads and they'll see this creature
stand up and it's eating like a dead dog or
a deer, and it seems like they're attracted to dead
animals and possibly they can smell them from miles away.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
Really, did you say you saw blood in his face?

Speaker 3 (12:17):
Yeah, it looked like something was dripping from his mouth,
you know. Like I said, I didn't hang around too
long to see what he was eating or whatever. I
went on, and I was just trying to convince myself
that I actually just see what I saw, you know,
because it's something that you Your brain ain't restroom, you know

(12:39):
what I'm saying. It's not resturant to what you just saw.
You don't see that every day.

Speaker 1 (12:48):
Yeah, your brain will sort of short circuit when it
sees something like this.

Speaker 3 (12:53):
Yeah. Yeah, and it was just unreal, unreal.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
Yeah. Again, No, I don't I don't blame you, and
I'm sure that image is burned into your memory.

Speaker 3 (13:08):
Yes, sir, his eyes, that's that's the thing. It was
his eyes.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
It almost makes me. It makes me wonder if a
lot of people that see the red eyes if they're
actually looking at a dog man. I have taken reports
with Bigfoot that people claim they have red eyes, but
when people are driving and they just see the red eyes,
I don't know if necessarily that's Bigfoot every time. It possibly,
I mean, it most likely is one of these things

(13:36):
that you encountered, a dog man, creature, werewolf, whatever you
want to call it.

Speaker 3 (13:41):
I don't know if it's a werewolf, sir. I think
it was the science project going wrong and he's just
out there. I mean that's just my theory of it,
because I mean I don't know. I don't know he
explained it. I really can't explained me.

Speaker 4 (14:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
Werewolf's just another name for dog man, and people speculate
that the folklore that is referred to as a werewolf
it was actually dog man stories that have been told
for many generations.

Speaker 3 (14:16):
Yeah, I mean I haven't really. I didn't really know
anything about that preacher until I actually saw it. That's
when my husband started, like, you know, looking at the
internet and you know, looking at stuff, you know, see

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if he could see what I was actually talking out
and everything, but it was dark.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
I tell you something that happened though. Right after that,
It's probably two months after that, my youngest son had
a couple of friends of his come over. It was
a guy and a girl that both and girlfriend. They
were leaving and what they had come over. I was
in my den watching TV and uh, with flipping channel
over something to walk when they come in to then

(15:05):
sat down and he introduced a couple to it. I'd
never met him before and they're probably they're on in
the red twenties at this time, and uh, they said,
what are you doing. I said, I'm flipping travel over
something to watch. I just so happened to stop it
on a Sasquatch bigfoot show that was coming on the
History Channel, and uh, we started watching it, and then

(15:28):
my wife had come in the demo we were and
she said, oh, you're watching a big footshell and I
said yeah, and they said, tell him about my the
thing I saw. I said, no, you tell them, so
I muted the TV and she proceeded to tell them
tell them what she just told you, and uh, they
were just sitting there listening, not saying the word Brenda
told her whole story without saying but then asking her

(15:51):
any questions until she was through telling her whole story
and nose. Soon as she got done, they both looked
over at us, said and Harris said, we saw the
same thing. And I turned around. I looked, and I said,
do what they said. We saw the same thing down
star Landing right and I said where? And they said
they were living up to Sina at two in the

(16:13):
morning in tu Nooko, Mississippi. That area there from the
casinos to where they were on star Landing Road. His
real rule is a flat delta area here in Mississippi.
And then he goes up. As you drive further up
that road they were on, which is star Landing Road,
you come up to an area of heavily wooded in

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the hills and he was driving his truck. He said
it was in his truck. She was sitting right next
to him in the pickup, and they said it was
two in the morning and times of the same thing.
He says, he talked to heel she started pointing. She
raised her arm and finger and started pointing to her
right out the window. And he saw her, of course

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doing that, but didn't look at the times where she
was pulling at. This happened in a matter of seconds,
and as he's looking to what she's pointing at, that's
what he said. He saw it. And when he said
he when his eyes fixed on it, it was bent over.
And as he got closer to it, and again he

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was just off the shoulder as Brenda's. It just was
where she saw her and it stood up and she
he said it, but he has to mate the same height,
seven to eight foot, had a wolf like face with
big teeth, red eyes, the hair described everything. So I
was getting really intrigued by his third story, too, matching Brenda's,

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so I asked him, I said, well, y'all mind doing something.
Talking to the couple, I said what I said, I'm
gonna get some paper and pencil for y'all eat from
my wife and for them, and y'all think the dem
would take bring the kitchen. And the oldest son was here.
He's a real good artist. I said, I want you
to draw a picture the best you can of what

(18:01):
you saw. Hey, but this took him maybe ten minutes
or so. They threw their picture and my wife got
her picture and grope on my kitchen table and they
got done. And they we looked and they're both identical.
They both pictures were identical, and that brewed my mind.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
Yeah, that is terrifying. So this was near the same
area that Brenda had her dog man encounter.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
No, no, it wasn't. It was approximately I would say,
forty miles apart.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
Okay, still kind of close. I mean it's in the
same state.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
Yeah, that would be yeah, yeah, yeah here in Mississippi.
It's all Mississippi.

Speaker 1 (18:42):
Yeah, that's terrifying. And the fact that you guys ran
into each other with the same encounter of the same creature,
that's just yeah, that's terrify.

Speaker 3 (18:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
And I buttered in when they started talking about it,
and I said I would have stopped. And he looked
at me and he said, no, you wouldn't have. I said, yeah,
I think I would have. He said, man, I'm telling you,
you wouldn't have stopped. He said when I saw that?
He said, well, instead, I saw it. He said, I
floored my truck and was getting as far away from

(19:13):
that rogers saw as I could. And he said, I
didn't care if I blew my truck up. I was
getting away from what we just saw.

Speaker 3 (19:22):
That's how I felt when I seen it. I didn't
stop till I got least how far is our seas
from one? Yeah, and I knew I was going to
be safe at the store. Maybe he could have caught
up with me if he wanted to, I guess. I mean,
I don't know. He scared me. He scared the dickens

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out of me. I mean, I've never been that scared
ever ever. It was like a dreams, like am I
actually dreaming? Did I actually just see what I just saw?
And until this day, I'm getting chills this day. It's
like the eyes. I will never forget those eyes. And

(20:06):
the headlights wasn't making those eyes glow. Remember his eyes
were or its eyes were glowing, not glowing like a
for a reescent light, you know, but they were just bright,
bright red. I've never seen animal's eyes that red, even
with car lights hitting them. You know, there are animals

(20:29):
out there, you know, you see the headlights hit them.
It's just I don't know, it's just unreal what I saw.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
Yeah, it's definitely otherworldly. In this area where you had
this encounter, you said, there's a lot of woods there.
What else is there? Is there a major waterway nearby?

Speaker 2 (20:49):
Yeah, there's creasing. There's crease, yeah, all over here, creasing
a lot of pawnds from ponds that have been here
for you know, one hundreds of years for old farmers
and what have you, and increased it have been here
for thousands of the years. And we're just five miles
going to a start As Lake, which is a huge
lake here that's over a million acres of waterway.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
Yeah, so it sounds like, yeah, it sounds like they
move around at nighttime.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
I guess, so, you know, I don't know. I know,
we see videos on YouTube of people that have encounters
with sasquatch, bigfoot, and I don't know if if I've
ever seen any daytime pictures taken of what we call
people call a dog man.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
Yeah, they're out there, but a lot of encounters take
place at nighttime. What other experiences have you guys had
since this encounter.

Speaker 3 (21:53):
I haven't seen another one, but I haven't really been out,
you know, wee hours of the morning like I was.
It's because like you said, I was in the work,
you know, and it was four am, found four fifteen,
four twenty something like that, you know, and it's pitch
dark outside. Ain't a soul around but me, you know,

(22:14):
like did I just cross into outer space or time?

Speaker 2 (22:19):
Did I go on the.

Speaker 3 (22:20):
Time warp or something? You know it it was just spooky.
It was really spooky to me, scary, mesmerizing. As you said.
The eyes just it's like they it paralyzes you kind
of that, you know, the para. You know, you just

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you're just stunned. It's like the eyes. You couldn't take
your eyes off his eyes, is what I'm trying to say.
You know, as I went by, I turned my head
and looked at him, and of course he looked at
me like what you gonna do? Kind of you know,
I'm thinking, whoa, I ain't gonna do nothing. I'm going on,
you know, glong down the road here.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
And the young couple that the young couple that also saw,
you know, that's saying the same thing. He that both
of them said the same thing, that the eyes were
really red, glowing red. Yeah. I don't have the pictures
anymore that they both drew, which I did. I wish
I kept them. I don't think they're here on the
house again, but uh, they were. I was. I was dumbfounded. Uh,

(23:29):
just as much fromous the pictures as there was the
story because the pictures were so I mean, they were
the same creature, if that's what you want to call it.
I mean.

Speaker 3 (23:43):
That that's what made my husband believe what I was
saying when that when he that couple grew that picture
and they told their stories. Is that now do you
believe me? You know? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (23:56):
They definitely validates your encounter. And yeah, yeah, I'm sure
that when you laid eyes on this creature, you were
I don't know, filled with dread and overwhelming terror.

Speaker 3 (24:09):
Oh yeah, it's like the adrenaline in your body, in
the in the and the you you really don't know
what to do. It's like, well, you knew what to do,
but it kind of it's like you're paralyzed and you're
just looking at him, and and your blood's pumping and

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and you're nervous and scared all together all in one.
You never gene experience. You never have that experience. You know,
your body, your head, your eyes, you're thinking of this creature,
this science project gone wrong.

Speaker 1 (24:53):
Yeah, it sounds like I've heard people in the past
who have encountered ab Man say that after their encounter,
they would have these nightmares of dog man creatures or that,
like possibly they get into your dreams. Have you experienced
any type of phenomenon like that.

Speaker 3 (25:13):
Well, yeah, I mean those eyes. I've dreamed about those
eyes several times, but I've never said anything to my
husband about it, because you know, it's just a dream.
You know, dreams aren't true. You just do my eyes.
I'll never forget those eyes. I think that is the

(25:37):
most serioust part about that. They was the eyes. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
There was one guy that said he ran into dog
Man and he said after the encounter, his hair started
turning white. I guess I don't know if that's stress
or or what, but several people have mentioned that, well.

Speaker 3 (25:57):
My hair's not white. I've gray hated. But I know
this from that. I could have turned four shades of
bread when I passed him. I don't know. I was,
like I said, I stopped that store and I just
had to. I'd sit in the parking lot a few
minutes to gather myself. You know, it's like, what did

(26:18):
I I'm shaken really bad. My whole body was shaken.
And I looked at that man. I said, we have
black bears. We had beers in the area, and he's
there I didn't tell him nothing what I saw, but
I wanted to believe me. I wanted to tell him,
and I thought about that thing all day long, I

(26:39):
could get it out of my head.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
Well, when she got home from work and first all
tell me about it, she said, all I know, I
know what a bear looks like. What I saw was not.

Speaker 3 (26:48):
A bear, most definitely not a bear.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
And of course I believed her from the very first time.
We've been married forty five years. I believed her when
she told me because I've always belaved it in Sasquatch anyway,
I know Indians and other people besides, these were here
way before us, and we're drawing, you know, had drawings
of them and gave them names and things. So I

(27:13):
believe in an Indian war than I would anybody else too.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
You know, yeah, absolutely. So you guys didn't experience any
strange phenomenon after that, Like you guys didn't see any
orbs or paranormal activity anything else that's happened since this encounter.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
Yeah, I had something happened with me. There's seven hundred
and seventy acres across the street from me that nobody
lives on, and it's heavily wooded. We live in a
rural area here. It's heavily wooded. It's got three big lakes, well,
two big lakes on a small pond. And we go
over there and fish, just us and a couple of

(27:54):
the neighbors here. Because it's it's posted. The man that
I got to know, the man that owns the property,
gave it permission to go there and fish. But I
goll there one day by myself. It was a calm day,
no wind. You could, you know, hear a pin drop.
It was just the greatest day to be fishing over there.

(28:15):
And I was bass fishing. And I've probably been there
maybe an hour and a half. And there's just a
handful of people that live around the seven hundred and
seventy two acres, including us, maybe ten people. We all
know each other and what have you. And I was
out there fishing, and like I said, it was just
as quiet, no wind, sunshine day, no clouds, and all

(28:42):
of a sudden, I hear to the right of me,
up in the woods, probably I would estimate sixty yards
from me, up in the woods, I hear a what
sounds to me if I was just describing to you
or anyone else.

Speaker 3 (28:56):
Was like a.

Speaker 2 (28:57):
Baseball bat that hit a tree times real hard, you know,
a thump, thump, thump, And of course I looked over
that direction and thought, you know, what is that. I
knew it wasn't an animal doing it, you know, from
the way it sounded. It sounded that, you know, it
had to be somebody doing that, and it didn't really

(29:20):
bother me, but I thought it was just odd. It
was just really odd. I never detected over the past
thirty five years, and been in woods a lot raising
the country all my life, so I know what things
sound like. It looked like in the woods, and it
probably maybe had been five minutes, and it did it again.

(29:43):
This time, it did it eight times. I hear eight
knocks on this tree. Well, it sounds like a you know,
a baseball bat hitting a tree. Well this time I said, okay,
I don't know, somebody's down here trying to play a
trick on me and try to scare me or what.
But you know, I knew it probably was nobody because

(30:04):
we had we know, everybody here in that particular day
was during the week with everybody's at work. There's a
couple of people here that retired, and so I when
it did the second time, I looked over that direction.
I said, hey, you're I don't know who you are
up there, because you're not scaring me. Of course, it's quiet, nothing,

(30:25):
And maybe the five minutes had gone by, and it
did it again, another eight knocks on the tree. And
I'm not gonna say it scared me, but I got
kind of concerned about it. And I was not ready
to be done fishing anyway. I wouldn't catch a lot
of fish, so I just padled my boat over to
whether you launched your bullet the lake over there, got

(30:48):
the boat and came home. I told my wife about it,
and I said, I there was I don't think it
was somebody in there. I think it was yeah. Yeah,
and ever was doing that, even if it was a
person doing that with the back, they were swinging extremely
hard because it was loud. It was loud. It was

(31:11):
almost on top of me, you know, and unknown about
in the piots of watching shows on Beeferts and such,
what they would contact each other by slant, you know,
hitting trees with whatever. You know.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
Yeah, absolutely, And I've heard a lot of reports where
people are fishing and they experienced wooden knocking or rock throwing.
They can see rocks being thrown out of the woods
into the water. And I theoriys that possibly these things
are wood knocking by throwing rocks at trees. And I
say that because I recorded a group of sasquatch wood

(31:48):
knocking at a man's property. And after you'd hear the loud,
powerful wood knock, you could hear debris hitting, like the
leaves on the forest floor. So I don't know if
they're hitting it with the stick or possibly was the
rocks hit bouncing off the trees and hitting the ground.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
Right And all I heard was just a knocking, you know.
Uh what why why it was so odd to me
is because I know nobody else was there but me,
and uh uh, there's something else I was going to
tell you about it. Uh. And when I got on
my folarder going out of there, it's about a mile

(32:25):
out of there coming to get to my place, and
where it happened at I could I could hear enough.
The sound was so close for a human to be
have done that where I'm seeing the sound coming from.
They just had to walk every bit of two miles
down into the woods to get to where that spot

(32:48):
was where I hear it coming from, and I knew,
I knew, I knew. And there's because you had to
walk if you were going to do something like that
to scare somebody, because you cannot ride up forward her
down there and stick up on anybody because you can
hear before we were coming off, you know, coming close
to you from miles away, so you're not sticking down
there on anybody with the forewheeler or any you know,

(33:11):
motor vehicle or anything. You couldn't even drive a car
down there in that area where that sound came from
the same it. It bothered me enough that when I
was driving out of my four wheel I was looking
to my laft to looking through my right, just kind
of watching around me. You know, I'm picturing now picture
in my mind when I'm jumping out and grabbing me
and snatching me off a fore wather, which is probably crazy, thinking.

Speaker 3 (33:35):
Well, they're not known to attack humans. I don't get somefit. No,
I don't know. I ain't never heard them attacking humans.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
Another instance that one more instances that happened. Me and
a friend of mine were down there and it had
washed really down the roads we take you on there
and the fish and uh. When we decided to come
back out of there, I told him, I said, hey,
let's let's make another order trail out of the woods ourself.

(34:04):
And we haven't shaved withs cut down some small trees
or rush. If we need you to get out of there,
come make another trail. Because the other one said washed
so bad. He said, yeah, that's fine. Well he was
behind me, and I picked an area off the far
right of the pond. It's to the left of the pond.
We always fist in to start coming up that big

(34:24):
hill embankment out of the woods. And like I said,
I'm metal detected off and on for thirty four years,
so I know what to look like, what to look
for in woods that certain trees or flowers or what
have you that shouldn't be there. So you know, I'm
used to looking at stuff like that. We get coming
up about halfway through these woods and we're cutting our
way through making another trail, and I come up on

(34:47):
these eight trees. I don't remember if there were pine
or oak or what. There's somewhere around five to eight
ines in a circumference and they are being old there
probably I don't know, twenty thirty feet tall, and they're
all been over in a circle to make like a hut.

(35:10):
And there, you know, and they really stood out from
the other woods. And I stopped and I turned around
and looked at my buddy. I said, man, look at
these trees right here. He said, yeah, I see that,
I said, I saw. And I just stared at him
for a few minutes, look at them like, you know,
a storm, you know, a person, tornado, Yeah, hasn't done this.

(35:32):
Somebody something is deliberately bored these trees over like this.
And I go off. Before we walked around, I'm looking
at them for a few minutes, you know, I guess
trying to convince myself that, you know, a tornado, a storm,
wind like that made these trees at the position they

(35:53):
were in.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
Yeah, so it was like a den Is that correct?

Speaker 3 (35:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (36:00):
Yeah, like it's being used ourselves had had been known
as storm was coming and we're in the woods. We're
gonna try and take shelter, but there's not any either.
There's plenty of woods. So me and you're gonna get
together come up with an idea of bending these trees
over to make us like some cover that's what it
looked like. Somebody had been over to make cover.

Speaker 3 (36:20):
And they weren't tired though, I mean.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
Yeah, yeah. And they were inter locked with each other,
you know, they weren't like just being over and touch.
They were interlocked, crossed through each other, and they were
all and none more data. They were all these were
all live trees, and they just looked way out of
you know, like it didn't belong They didn't belong there
that you know, out of place.

Speaker 1 (36:44):
Yeah. And was this deep in the woods or was
this off a trail in the woods like where they
can watch people?

Speaker 2 (36:49):
Well, this is this is deep in the woods, like
I said, were we started making a new trail to
get in and now there because the wash the washers
were so bound the trail we had been riding. Yeah,
and that's the reason I started going through those those
deep it's really thick and it was really thick. And
we got to that spot in there where it's really

(37:09):
thick and there and there they were, and I just
told you the story what happened is just they're just odd. Yeah,
ely all.

Speaker 1 (37:18):
I've heard of these dens being deep in the woods.
A guy from Minnesota sent me a photo of one,
and he said it was real deep in the forest.
There was a guy here in Missouri that sent me
one in the Mark Twain National Forest and he said
it was real deep in there. And there was another
guy from Tennessee and it was the same way, deep
in the forest.

Speaker 3 (37:38):
So well, where I saw mine, it was not deep
in the woods. I wouldn't say you would call that
deep in the woods.

Speaker 2 (37:46):
He was pretty you said on the shoulder.

Speaker 3 (37:48):
Well, yeah, but I mean there's still houses. There was
houses there.

Speaker 2 (37:51):
I mean it ain't like, yes, that's rule. That's rule
there still to this day. Almost going there and let's
not we you saw and there's only one house that
you passed before you've got to where he was standing,
right if you look behind where and.

Speaker 3 (38:06):
The thing is there was an old, old like shack,
like you know, like a one room shack, you know
that like they had back in the day. It's been
there since. But he was like right there off the
side of the road too, it's been there forever. And
I had told another friend of ours one night and
he said, oh, that was so, and so no, that

(38:28):
wasn't so. And so that was whatever I just told you.
I saw, And you know, there was a shock there
and he goes that that, dude, isn't that shock. No,
this ain't a This ain't a guy. This wasn't a person.
I saw. It was a creature. Yeah, of course they

(38:50):
didn't believe me, but that's okay, I know what I saw.

Speaker 1 (38:53):
Yeah, well, we believe you here and you definitely encountered
some unusual creature, and yeah, I believe you. On Tony,
when you heard these woodenknocks when you were fishing, can
you remember the time of day and the time of
year when this happened.

Speaker 2 (39:12):
Yeah, it was. Yeah, it was in April. It was
the same time as it is now. It was an
April in the spring, and it was probably ten in
the morning. And that's really I don't know if that
would even matter or not, but you know, you, I
would think be in this situation I was in over
there and knowing this whole area been here for thirty

(39:34):
years now. Had that happened at night, it probably would
have boughted me a lot more. But it happened during
the day. Was kind of like there was trees, I
explained to you that were in a hut like shape.
That was very odd. It was it was just odd
because I knew. I convinced myself pretty quick that this

(39:55):
noble body, no human being, that was down there and
was trying to scare me. It was something else that
did it. And I don't I couldn't tell you what
it was, but I would tell you if I had
to tell somebody.

Speaker 3 (40:08):
What about that day you were down there and that
deer jumped in the water, was running for its live
and nothing chastly explain that.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
I can't explain that either.

Speaker 3 (40:20):
That poor baby deer you said it was one.

Speaker 2 (40:22):
For Yeah, that could have been anything after.

Speaker 3 (40:25):
It for it to jump in the water like it did.

Speaker 2 (40:28):
Yeah, right by the ramp we lost the boat. It
was the same type of day, still day, no wind jump.
You could hear a pin drop. There's a bankment over
the right to go straight up where we were fishing,
and it's uh, yeah, a small deer leaped off come.
We heard the scuffling through the woods first and it
leaped off the bank into the into the bomber was

(40:52):
us and was fifteen feet from us, and of course
me and my son was with me. We were freaking out.
You know, this is it was just the whole thing
was freaked out. He jumped in the water. It was
like ten feet from behind us. It was just gold peddling,
keeping his head above the water. And he started swimming
towards us, and I said, oh my god, look, you're

(41:13):
gonna swim right towards the boat. I could reach out
and painted it on his hands. It passed us, and
it passes as if it was as if it was
going to go out to where we loaunched the boat,
and then it just sat there for I don't know,
fifteen twenty seconds. Changed it, look, it changed his mind
and turned him with clear across the lake and got
on the other side.

Speaker 1 (41:34):
Yeah, it sounds like he was using you guys for safety,
and possibly there was a predator such a sasquatch exactly.

Speaker 2 (41:42):
If something was Yeah, and I'm not going to say
it wasn't a coyote or a wolf or we didn't
see or hear anything, but yeah, it was just a deer.

Speaker 1 (41:52):
Yeah, it could have been a pack of coyotes. But
at the same time, sasquatch will do the same thing.
And I had a deer out here in my yar
that had its front leg broke, and it would come
out into the yard almost every day and just stand there,
wouldn't run off, and it would look back into the
woods and then look at me and repeat that, and
you could tell something was after it. I never thought

(42:13):
much about it, but it wasn't in the same timeframe
that I had my big foot sightings. And then later
on I interviewed a farmer down south that was having
He had big bucks on his trail camera on video
and they had their front leg broken, just like this deer,
and it was dangling and he was having the same
activity taking place.

Speaker 2 (42:34):
So have you actually seen on yourself.

Speaker 1 (42:36):
Yeah, I've seen them several times. They were here for
a good span of time, and I was out there
every day researching and I caught glimpses of them.

Speaker 2 (42:47):
Really, really, what is your opinion on the whole thing?
You think they've been here since way before Maine or
or what's your opinion on that.

Speaker 1 (42:58):
Yeah, I feel like they're from the old world if
those stories are true. And you know, I'm not trying
to sound like a Bible thump, but I definitely believe
in the Bible. But it too, Yeah, it talks about
this giant world before Noah's time, and I mean they
just they describe it the same as science, like how
there was this land mass called Pangaea and apparently, you know,

(43:21):
there was people back then, there were giants. There was
pretty much a one world government, and there were things
such as giants, the Nephlum, and the animals were apparently unclean.
So God had to flood the earth and wipe everything
off the face of the earth and pretty much restart
with Noah's family and two of every animal.

Speaker 2 (43:43):
It's just a colinss Be and my son were telling
me that last night. I don't know if you've recently
seen on YouTube the bronze pieces that they found I
think somewhere in Rome and the area in Italy, and
they were almost they had a museum for a few years.
They were discovered in like I think two thousand and
seven or eight, and you know, we have technology now

(44:05):
where they can zoom and look through metal and see
everything inside of it, and they just recently, not long ago,
had done that with that biggest piece of bronze that
they had and found all those what would look like
a wind up watch if you told the guts and
opened it with all the gears in. Did you see that?

Speaker 1 (44:25):
Yeah, I've seen things like that, and that's pretty strange.

Speaker 2 (44:29):
Well, see, as I's told my son, I said, I've
always believed if you believe in the Bible and how
we got here, we have a creator and what have you.
I guess it's hard for me imagined in cavemen. We're
been told since we were young, I guest cavemen to
invent the wheel and so on, and it's just hard

(44:51):
for me to believe that humans, at whatever time you
want to go back and put it at, invented such
things as the wheel, and then everything is stopped. I've
always had I've always had issue with with why why
have humans been here for tens and thousands upon thousands

(45:14):
of years and it took it till eighteen eighty five
for us to build a car engine.

Speaker 1 (45:20):
Yeah, it's pretty strange because what science talks about with
like caveman and Neanderthals, you go back further in time
and there was the Pyramids. So it's like, Okay, this
doesn't make sense because they're claiming that we evolved slowly
then made the wheel, but before that there's the Pyramids,
which we can't replicate with today's technology.

Speaker 2 (45:41):
It's not long enough.

Speaker 3 (45:43):
Well, it's kind of ironic that you would say something
about the biblicals and I really I mean, I don't know.
It was devilish looking that that to me, that's the
only way to describe it. It was dead. It was
like something out of the unknown, is what I saw.

Speaker 1 (46:08):
Yeah, you definitely got the feeling that it was evil.

Speaker 3 (46:12):
Very evil, very evil. You. I mean, I'm getting chills
again just just thinking about it because it was it's
hard to explain and unless you experience it, M do
you understand what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 (46:29):
Yeah, I completely understand.

Speaker 3 (46:30):
And I mean it's something that if you're walking through
the woods, you know, not you know, not a carrying
a wood world and you come across the things, you
just hope and pray that it goes the other way
or don't attack you or eat you or you know.
What I'm saying is it's devilish. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:56):
I mean with sasquatch, if I encounter one, which I have,
I just kind of stand there, watch go my own way.
But with a dog man creature similar to what you encountered,
I don't know if I would react that way. Like
if I had a firearm, I feel like I'd put
a bullet in it. Like I don't know if I'd
just let it go or take off running.

Speaker 3 (47:16):
I don't even think I could hold a steady arm
to get a aim on him.

Speaker 2 (47:23):
I believe it was one of your I could be wrong.
I believe it's one of your shows I saw recently
with a guy shot one. Was that one of your shows?

Speaker 1 (47:35):
Yeah, where he was camping during hunting season and they
rushed his tent.

Speaker 3 (47:41):
And he started shooting.

Speaker 2 (47:44):
Yeah. I got my wat to watch the next day.
I thought her she needed to watch that was that
was a great interview you did? It was that guy?

Speaker 1 (47:50):
Yeah, I labeled it as terrifying Bigfitt encounter, but honestly,
I don't I don't know. Maybe it was dog Man
and he the guy that was with him did say
he's all red glowing eyes, similar to like break lights
coming at the top.

Speaker 3 (48:05):
Now, these were broader than break lights, way broader than
break lights. You really can't explain the eyes, You really can't.
That's I think that's what scared me the most was
the eyes because it looked like it looked devilish. It
looked like you were actually looking looking in the face

(48:26):
of the devil itself. You know, that's best way I
actually explain it. I mean, was.

Speaker 1 (48:33):
It like like like hot coals, or was it like
I don't know, like laser beam lights. I don't know
how I describe it, but or like a like demon
eyes like you would think of like a demon having
like red glowing eyes.

Speaker 3 (48:51):
Yeah, like demon eyes. Devil is looking demon eyes, like mean,
mean looking. He was like waiting for me.

Speaker 2 (48:57):
To like.

Speaker 3 (48:59):
It was like, yeah, go ahead, do what you're gonna do.
I'm here, I'm here, you know, yeah, I'm here. You
saw me. So he was like when he raised up,
he's like he when he rolls up, he's like he
bowed up to me like like you know how you Yeah,

(49:21):
his arms bowed out and he bowed up like and
the look I mean.

Speaker 2 (49:28):
Like you interrupted his meal.

Speaker 1 (49:29):
Yeah, like yeah, yeah, I've actually heard that from people
who have encountered these creatures. They say it has this
intelligent look in its eyes and you could tell it's
thinking like ha, what are you going to do now?

Speaker 3 (49:43):
Yeah? Yeah, that exactly sir. It was exactly that like that,
And like I said, it was, it's hard to explain.
You just can't explain it.

Speaker 2 (49:56):
That is.

Speaker 3 (49:58):
I was scared. I was really really scared.

Speaker 1 (50:01):
I actually just got chills thinking about it. I can't
imagine the fear that you felt. I'm sorry this happened
to you, and I.

Speaker 3 (50:10):
Don't want to see it again. Let me put it
that to you that way. I do not want to
see it again.

Speaker 1 (50:16):
Yeah, that's tough because like people struggle struggle with regular life,
like keeping up with jobs, money, or just like relationships
or some you know, a family member passes away like
that kind of stuff can cause like a lot of
grief in your life and it's hard to manage that.
But I can't imagine what it's like encountering one of
these creatures because it's like who do you talk to?

(50:39):
I mean people say, oh, go to a therapist for this,
Like what are you gonna say? I saw a dog man?
And they can't relate to you, Like, how is somebody
supposed to help you through this?

Speaker 2 (50:48):
Yeah, we've told some really close friends that we've had
you known for a number of years, and they just
more or less they don't say that they don't believe it.
They just blow the story off. You know, we go
talk a lot that, Yeah, we'll talk about the weather
after that or something, because they just don't they haven't
ever had any encounter whatsoever of anything to do with
a creature like that. So to them is it's just,

(51:11):
you know, you're talking about something that they wouldn't know
anything about it and don't really care about it.

Speaker 1 (51:16):
Yeah, it's definitely tough. And I mean, when you hear
about an encounter like this, your brain can't process it,
But when you actually see the thing with your very eyes,
your brain still can't process it. So it's difficult.

Speaker 2 (51:31):
Yeah. I know, if I ever, if we if we ever,
if I ever see one out here at all, no
matter the distance I guess from what everybody's talking include
my wife and things I've watched on your show and
on the shows that I guess I'm in a vehicle
or something I don't know, or that I am armed,

(51:51):
if I'm walking around or something.

Speaker 3 (51:53):
His falls or hands or whatever they are, he could
have stopped me if he wanted to. He could have
stopped a call. I think.

Speaker 2 (52:01):
Yeah, that's that's what's amazing to me. It's not just
heard that I've heard that from up seeing other people
on that have encountered these things that they say kind
of the same thing they woulded to that they just
by looking at it, they believe it could have tossed
their car or tossed whatever they were in, you know,
down the road.

Speaker 1 (52:20):
Yeah, yeah, that's terrifying. I stood up, I'll go ahead.

Speaker 3 (52:27):
Stood up. Mm hm. That's what freaked me out too.
He stood up like a human.

Speaker 1 (52:32):
Did he stand up real slow like or did he
pop up really fast?

Speaker 3 (52:38):
Because like you said, when when my top thing heel
was coming down the hill and when my carlight sitting,
and he stood up like really slow, and like I said,
he bowed up like he was ready for a fight,
like you're going to a fight, you know, you know,
have people bow up a fight. Yeah, that's what he
looked like.

Speaker 1 (52:57):
So he wasn't backing down. He was ready to go.

Speaker 3 (53:00):
Yeah, and he bowed up. He didn't, you know, like
this up. But you could tell when he stood up
he was doing that all like in slow motion. To me,
it was like all in slow motion. It's like, am
I going through a time war? And oh my god?
Am I am? I in the A I inhale is
what I thought? In heale and I'm encountering the devil.

(53:22):
You know that I die and I'm still awake or something.
I don't know, like you know, your brain just can't
process which actually seeing. Yeah, that's And when he stood up, slowly,
very slowly, he started bowing up, and I could tell
he was kind of like chewing whatever he was chewing.

(53:44):
And his teeth, his teeth too, like cane iron teeth,
like a long canine teeth. That that too was like wow.
In his hands and finger his fingernails or claws or
whatever you want to call him, because he had a hand,
he had fed fingers, I could see that, and his

(54:07):
nails were long, very long. And when I went past him,
I didn't look at my review mirror, like I said,
I was concentrating on the road and it was already dark,
you know, and can't hard to see at nine anyways,
and it's pitch black. But I knew the road because
it took it every morning, so I knew if there

(54:31):
was a stop sign right there. And it's like, I
am not stopping at this stop sign. I'm blowing through
this stop sign, you know. And so I told myself,
I'm gonna stop at r C's, I'm gonna stop getting
your coat to pose myself, gather myself.

Speaker 2 (54:48):
It still bothers this day. This has been how long ago?
Is it twenty five years ago, been long ago, Yeah,
about twenty five years ago.

Speaker 1 (54:56):
Yeah, yeah, that's what. That's scary.

Speaker 3 (55:00):
It's very scary, sir. And it's something I do not
want to see ever again in my lifetime, ever, ever, ever.

Speaker 1 (55:08):
Absolutely. And there's a lot of people that encounter Bigfoot,
and you know, they call them the forest people, forest friends.
You know, they gift with them, they interact with them.
But I've never heard of anyone saying that they interact
with a dog man creature and they hang out with him.
Like when you hear about dog man or if you
encounter one, the first thought that comes to your mind

(55:28):
is death, like major red flag, like this is not.

Speaker 2 (55:31):
Good, right, right, that's right. That's the That's what I
got from her when she first told me about it,
was hit the fear of dying. Is thing killing you?
And she told me that she stops, you know she
was she said it so fast. While I was told
her about it. She said, if I hadn't stopped, people
just got the car and throwing or rip my roof off.

(55:54):
You know, the h are being convinced of that. You know,
if she had stopped, this thing would have just done
whatever it wanted to do.

Speaker 3 (56:04):
Even hate me.

Speaker 1 (56:07):
Yeah, well, it sounds like you got a good support system, Brenda,
and sounds like you guys are made for each other.
And I'm glad you were able to support each other
and be there for one another instead of, you know,
having this this difference where one person saw it and
the other one didn't. But you guys both you know believe,
you know, Tony believed you, and that that that alone

(56:30):
really helps out a lot.

Speaker 3 (56:31):
And that's well, you didn't believe me into that couple?
Come up?

Speaker 2 (56:34):
No, I believed her. I believe, but she's telling me
what she saw, what she saw. The only blank I
had in my mind really about it was, you know,
did she really see something besides the bear? When that
couple had their story the same as hers, just a
different location from here, and then drawing those pictures on

(56:55):
the paper and they were add acas, I said, well,
something's out there. You know, these three people saw it.
Something that they saw, something that they all those not
a animal that we see all the time.

Speaker 1 (57:08):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Do you still communicate what's the couple?

Speaker 2 (57:13):
No, we haven't seen them since then, but sure have it. Okay,
they were young, they were popping their twenties that was
a Yeah, I watched something was younger. It's a long
time ago. You know, we haven't seen it.

Speaker 1 (57:24):
And when you drove past this dog man creature, you know,
when you're driving and you pass a dead animal or
a skunk, you can smell it through the vents. Did
you smell anything unusual?

Speaker 3 (57:35):
I smell nothing.

Speaker 2 (57:36):
But did you say how his hair was dirty? We
we gave dirty looking, dirty looking.

Speaker 3 (57:42):
He was just mangy, really angey looking like yeah, lo
long hair. The hair is like like shaggy doll golle.

Speaker 1 (57:56):
Was his body okay, all over his body. It wasn't
just long around his neck and his chest area. It
was long all over.

Speaker 3 (58:03):
Yeah, it was all over he had it was long
all over. His body is in my eyes though I
shoe flow back in my eyes. I'm sorry, I've shaken
out thinking about it.

Speaker 1 (58:21):
Yeah, okay. So I told you guys that I've had
bigfoot is sight and encounters, and I've had a handful
of them. I can't tell you exactly how many I
had seen because one night they showed up and I
hit them with the spotlight and the whole clan was
in the woods. So when people ask me how many
have you seen, I say, I don't really know, but
I've seen quite a few of them. There was this

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incident when I was eleven or twelve years old, before
I ever had my Bigfoot encounters, and it was in
the same area where I encountered Bigfoot. I was sitting
in my room, I had the window open, I was
watching TV and on my computer. And this was in
the summertime, and it was around I would say, anywhere

(59:03):
from nine PM to eleven PM. But I'm just sitting
there doing my thing, and I hear what sounds like
a werewolf outside. And I've heard coyotes, I've heard wolves
like on TV shows. This was different. This was like
what you'd hear like on Hollywood movies, that deep, guttural
werewolf how out in the woods. I mean, it sounded

(59:27):
like somebody took that Hollywood werewolf vocalization and blasted it
through a PA system at a concert and it was
just right there in the woodline. I always wondered what
the heck that was. And after I had my Bigfoot
encounters years later, I started learning about dog Man and
I thought about that vocalization. I was like, oh my god,

(59:47):
well if Bigfoot's real, because i'd seen them. That means
all these crazy people that are saying that dog man
exists are actually telling the truth.

Speaker 2 (59:55):
Oh well, I already had in my mind, like I
told you that. You know, way before Europeans such as
us got here, they were Indians here and you know
they they saw them, had drawings of them and what
have you. Then you've got you know, children, young children
from say five, six, eight years old to people in
their nineties, they have seen these creature creatures. So are

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all these thousands of people telling a story of making
up a lie? And that's just that's just not true.

Speaker 3 (01:00:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
Absolutely. Even in the ancient Pyramids, you see this dog
human dog creature statues and they call them anubis. It
looks like a dog man and I think a lot
of them have red eyes too, right, Yeah, So it
makes you wonder. I believe these things are from the
ancient world and not all of them were killed in

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the flood. And it's scary to know that these things
are out there.

Speaker 2 (01:00:54):
Why would you tell my somen real quick lifetime about
what you just said, what we were talking about earlier.
You know, if you believe in a creator and what
have you and I if we are right about the
Earth being about four to four point five billion years old.
Who's to say that creator two billion years ago didn't
create a species and since they had wiped it out

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or what it stinked. And now, of course if we
found we wouldn't find anything because it all be dirt.
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:01:25):
Well, what I saw was not from this world.

Speaker 1 (01:01:29):
Yeah, absolutely, in somewhere or somehow.

Speaker 2 (01:01:34):
You think they're going to a time warp where you believe,
like I've seen a lot of these guys in Louisiana.
These guys in Louisiana have their own twelve kind of
thing where they've been hunting it for ever and they
square that they're ground dwellers.

Speaker 1 (01:01:49):
Yeah, I mean, I believe there's definitely a connection with
the underground world. And I do feel like they're possibly
using portals, and I feel like that's a missing to
it all, and that's why people don't find bodies and
why people are seeing orbs, why these things can cloak
like many people have claimed, And I think that could

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be a reason, especially since not everyone, but a lot
of people that experience hardcore cryptied activity are also experiencing
paranormal phenomenon and other strange things. That they can't explain.
And I feel like that has something to do with portals,
and I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:02:28):
Yeah, I don't like going outside at night by myself
at all. I will not go outside. And who is
by myself at night? And we've been, like said, the
lives all around us, right, and if I have to
go outside, somebody going with me. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:02:47):
When you encounter a cryptied creature, it changes nighttime for
you all of a sudden. You're you're afraid of the
dark again, like you were when you were a little kid,
Like something's gonna get you from under the bed.

Speaker 3 (01:03:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:03:01):
What do they call them? I saw a show nut
that's not that old on YouTube when those guys went
up into the mountains of the snow somewhere. What do
you call the one that they think is this up there? Yeah,
and they a bunch of those guys went up with
tents and all their back packes and had those footprints
they found mm hmm. Well no human could survive up there.

(01:03:26):
And you know I believe that too.

Speaker 1 (01:03:29):
Yeah, absolutely, these things are global. And that's just another
reason why I believe that they are from the ancient world,
because then a flom were global and yeah, I mean,
there's just things going on that we cannot explain.

Speaker 3 (01:03:46):
Right, this is something from out of the world.

Speaker 2 (01:03:53):
It makes you want of thom like the doll Man.
Maybe not so much as Sasquatch to me, but the
doll Man, the way she described it, the couple that
was here described it, and other people have seen it.
You know, what is its purpose here?

Speaker 3 (01:04:07):
Like I said, it's a science project gone wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:04:10):
I don't believe that. I ain't saying it's not possible,
but I don't beluld.

Speaker 1 (01:04:16):
Be an ancient science project that went wrong. And I
think that's kind of like what the Naphlom were and
that they're unclean. And I think the dark Side tried
making man in their own image.

Speaker 2 (01:04:29):
But really, well, you're.

Speaker 3 (01:04:30):
Talking about the dark Side.

Speaker 2 (01:04:32):
You know, I told you.

Speaker 3 (01:04:35):
It looked kind of devilish. You know.

Speaker 2 (01:04:39):
It's like, like I.

Speaker 3 (01:04:40):
Said, you're trying to process what you just solved. Did
you die on the way to work? And I look
at al That's really what I thought, because you just
can't explain. It's like it wasn't even in the movie.

Speaker 2 (01:04:59):
It was like terror.

Speaker 3 (01:05:02):
I mean, I was in my vehicle. I felt kind
of safe with my vehicles somewhat not you know, not
one safe, but I felt kind of secure there. But
it's like, what what did You can't explain it. I
don't know, you just can't explain it. It is. You

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can't make this stuff up.

Speaker 1 (01:05:26):
Yeah, absolutely there. I mean, you're not wrong thinking it's
a science experiment gone wrong. There's a lot of insiders
who worked for the government that said that aliens are
doing human genetical experiments and when.

Speaker 2 (01:05:42):
That'd be crazy. Is that really has happened? That that
is crazy?

Speaker 3 (01:05:47):
I mean that's what I thought.

Speaker 1 (01:05:49):
Yeah, it seems like humans have been altered.

Speaker 2 (01:05:52):
I guess it's possible. The Bible says that's a no no,
you know, not to do that. You know, makes other
animals and other animal and blood have.

Speaker 3 (01:06:00):
You don't know that freed or something that's gone wrong,
because you.

Speaker 2 (01:06:04):
Know, I'm a believer in anything is possible to in
this world we live in.

Speaker 1 (01:06:09):
So Yeah, And what I.

Speaker 3 (01:06:13):
Don't understand is you're saying they come back from way
back then. How did they survive all that time? I
know they've probably made it, but what are the world
they've made me with? You know what I mean to reproduce?

Speaker 1 (01:06:25):
Yeah, and maybe there's a connection with the underground, with
how they survived. And you know, like I said, there's
people from the government that have talked about these things
and a lot of them concluded that the aliens are
they're demonic. And there's there's also a guy that reverse
engineered one of the ships and he said that the

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spaceship they recovered from an archaeological dig, like it's hundreds
and thousands of years old. So I think it's possible
that a lot of this stuff is from the ancient world.

Speaker 2 (01:06:59):
Yeah, and I'm a I don't know if I believe
in even the guys that do it for a living
and silence to themselves, well, they were skeptics too on
carbon dating. I don't know if I believe in carbondating.
It's all that's really that accurate.

Speaker 3 (01:07:15):
Demonic was is a good word for.

Speaker 1 (01:07:19):
Really, Yeah, I think that's what they are. Demons are
just these creatures that were created and they weren't supposed
to be here. So I mean, I think that's the
reason why Hell had to be created, because it's like
what do we do with these things? Like we have
to find like a garbage pit to dump all this stuff?

Speaker 3 (01:07:40):
Right, Well, what I saw it was very like you said, demonic.
Then it was something from another world, something that is unreal.

Speaker 2 (01:07:59):
But I believe that I believe, don't you. That's a
sasquatching bigfoots whatever are totally different from this dog Man creature,
don't you.

Speaker 1 (01:08:10):
I want to believe they're different. But I mean a
lot of the things that people have attributed with dog
Man are the same things that people talk about with Bigfoot.
I mean, I've talked to several people who have encountered
dog Man that said it spoke to them like through
their mind. And it's like, WHOA, that's weird because people
who've encountered Bigfoot have said the same thing. I have

(01:08:30):
never had that experience, but it keeps popping up in
the research. Yeah, and like I said, where I heard
that werewolf, how is the same exact area where I
had my Bigfoot encounters. Kind of strange, right.

Speaker 3 (01:08:44):
I don't know if he was trying to talk to
me through his eyes or whatever, but I ain't gonna
say a split second I was paralyzed or feeling paralyzed.

Speaker 2 (01:08:58):
He had your attention, very, he had your undivided attention,
very so he had.

Speaker 3 (01:09:02):
My uns And like I said, when he rose up
and bowed up. I knew, I knew something was supposed
to go down. That's the fear and the vibe I
got from this thing. It's like, what are you gonna do? What?

Speaker 2 (01:09:19):
It's kind of like he was saying that other people
are telling him that he's like, get invade his space
or yeah, what he was doing?

Speaker 3 (01:09:25):
Yeah, and the eyes though you can't show them eyes.
I'm sorry, I keep going back with these eyes. I
think that's that's what scared me the most was the eyes,
the piercing the eyes looking at you. And he he
watched me like a human being. You see a car coming,
so you you know, you turn your head and look

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at the car, and as you go by, you turn
your head and watch the cargo by, right, So that
that's what he did. He rose up and as I
you know, he rose up, looked at me and as
I went by, he's like and he was like a
slow moat. I was I couldn't Who's gonna go faster?
And he was just watching me, watch me, watch me.

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And when I looked up in my rearview mirror, I
didn't see.

Speaker 2 (01:10:16):
It was like gone, he probably couldn't even it's so
black Yeah, it was dark and he was dark. There's
no light there.

Speaker 3 (01:10:22):
Yeah, it's very dark.

Speaker 2 (01:10:25):
Yeah, about four.

Speaker 3 (01:10:26):
In the morning. Yes, it's weird.

Speaker 2 (01:10:29):
Like I said, we live in the Royal and what
she saw it.

Speaker 3 (01:10:31):
We go that way for a long long time. I
quick going out.

Speaker 2 (01:10:34):
Yees, she couldn't go on that way for a long time.

Speaker 3 (01:10:36):
I got on the main highway. I stayed off the
back roads, sure did.

Speaker 2 (01:10:41):
And I stopped here one day by myself in the
exact spot that she showed me it was, and got
the car and just looking across the road there and
I just looked at seeing all the woods. I said, well,
there's plenty of area for it to hide in right there.
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:10:57):
Absolutely. It almost makes me one what the Native Americans
meant when they when they refer to a skin walker
or a shape shifter. Now, I don't know if there's any.

Speaker 2 (01:11:09):
I I don't know either. Yeah, I don't know either.
I think they probably thought it was some type of
I know it's something they didn't as far as I
know that little bit I read on it. They didn't
never try and mess with it, did they.

Speaker 1 (01:11:24):
I don't know, really, And I've always heard that the
Native Americans would move their camp because they deplete the
animals and you know, they defecate like in areas, and
you know they'd have to move to keep from getting diseases.
But it almost makes me wonder if they kept moving
to get away from these things, because I mean, they
slept out there in the woods. It was like camp

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every day for them.

Speaker 2 (01:11:48):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:11:48):
Here's the thing, though, you don't really hear of them
attacking people. And you said earlier that they only eat
dead animal, Well, we do.

Speaker 2 (01:12:00):
I don't think we all truly know that.

Speaker 1 (01:12:02):
Well, the Native Americans said the Sasquatch would eat people,
They would hunt like women and children.

Speaker 2 (01:12:09):
Oh they did say that. Yeah, I didn't know that.

Speaker 1 (01:12:13):
Yeah, they would take women and children. And you know,
it makes us wonder in today's world because there's all
these missing people and people be walking in the woods
and turn around their kids just gone, right.

Speaker 3 (01:12:28):
What are they doing with them? Are they eating them
or are they breathing them? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:12:33):
Yeah, people speculate possibly they're eating them or possibly they're
breeding with humans.

Speaker 3 (01:12:39):
Something's going on, because I mean, how did they last
all these years of what you know, if we're going
back to to the Indian days, do you understand when
I'm trying to say, how did they survive? Are they
they had to be multiplied? Well, I mean it started
out with one, I'm sure you know. So what are

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they breeding with another animal or human? Because they're multiplying evidently,
because there's been several sightings of this of this thing.

Speaker 1 (01:13:09):
Yeah, they're definitely breeding.

Speaker 3 (01:13:12):
Yeah, I mean right, but what are they breeding with
another creature like them? Or a dog, a wolf of
a bear? What guy means you stood.

Speaker 2 (01:13:23):
Up like a human.

Speaker 3 (01:13:24):
That's what got me, you know what I'm saying. Only
one other animal stands up, and that's a bear. You
know what I'm saying, They stand up like a human
kind of Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:13:37):
I always thought Greek mythology was just folklore, like it
wasn't real. But now that I've learned more about the
cryptid subject and have had these encounters, It's like, what
were they trying to tell us exactly?

Speaker 3 (01:13:51):
We're here, we're out here. You may not be able
to see me often. I think it's just a it
was just a.

Speaker 2 (01:13:59):
Not but.

Speaker 3 (01:14:03):
You just don't see him every day, and it's very
sporadic that somebody would see him. I don't know what
the time lapse was between when I saw this thing,
and our friend saw this thing.

Speaker 2 (01:14:20):
I don't know what the timeframe was, about a year okay,
a year later, you know that they encountered it.

Speaker 3 (01:14:28):
I mean I was like that girl just you know, speechless. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:14:33):
I didn't say much about her. She she said it
scared her so back. She couldn't talk when she she
that's why she was just pointing at it. But then
when he looked at her and said what is it?
And she still had didn't answer him, and he looks
as going through his mind, he looks to see what
she's pointing at. That's when he saw it. And I

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believed every word they said too. And like I said,
when you know, when I told him I would have
probably stopped, he said, band, I'm telling you you wouldn't.
He wouldn't have stopped. Did He floored his truck and
he didn't care if he blew his truck up.

Speaker 3 (01:15:07):
I wouldn't even get close.

Speaker 2 (01:15:08):
He was getting this far away from what he just saw.

Speaker 3 (01:15:10):
I don't think he could. You would want to give
in close enough to even shoot it if you had
a gun. That's that's how.

Speaker 2 (01:15:18):
That's how intimidated.

Speaker 3 (01:15:19):
Yeah, I mean a gun. I mean, yeah, a gun
would probably would have killed it, but I think he'd
got his licks in before you.

Speaker 2 (01:15:30):
I don't think a gun would kill it. LI said,
more than plenty of enough bullets in it.

Speaker 3 (01:15:36):
You can.

Speaker 2 (01:15:36):
Should you know that you can shoot a deer and
in a run two hundred yards where it falls over?

Speaker 3 (01:15:40):
This thing was out of this world. You can't explain it.
He's just unexplanatory very much. So I felt like I
had done died and went the hell is what I
thought I was in really, because it was just did
I just meet the devil?

Speaker 2 (01:16:00):
Is what I thought?

Speaker 3 (01:16:02):
You know? Yeah, I was just trying to put these
thoughts in my head, like I did. I didn't see
what I saw. No, I didn't see what I saw.
I was. I just stepped out a minute and whatever.
You know what I'm saying. It's just it's so unexplainable, explainable.

Speaker 1 (01:16:22):
It's something myself and the researchers talk about when we're
looking for Beckfoot is what if we're run into a
dog man? What are we gonna do?

Speaker 2 (01:16:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:16:32):
What are you gonna do? Because it's gonna paralyze You's
that's what I think. Because of those eyes he because
he's gonna he was looking at me, literally looking at
me and looking at me and watching me, and boat
up rose up and bowed up at me. And that's

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I think that's what scared me the most, is when
he rose up and I saw those eyes and his
arms and the look those eyes were so piercing, and
I think if I would have been walking out had
been dead.

Speaker 2 (01:17:12):
It just sounds like to me like if you come
up on a lion that's out eating a deer on
the ground and you walk up. No, No, I thought
that kind of you're intimidation. No, it wasn't that.

Speaker 3 (01:17:24):
It wasn't that. I mean a line, I see it.
You know, a line, Okay, I see the lion is
the line. A line is a lion.

Speaker 2 (01:17:33):
No, I mean the way it acted.

Speaker 3 (01:17:34):
Is your brain comprehends that that's just a lion if
you it was eating. Yeah, But what I'm saying is
your brain comprehends that that's a lion. That's a lion.
That's a dog over there. I see that's a dog.
But that creature I saw it was not from this
world at all. It was not the world Earth. Whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:18:01):
Yeah, it's definitely dangerous to be out in the woods
at nighttime. But it's even dangerous to walk the highway
at night or back roads.

Speaker 2 (01:18:10):
Oh, I forgot about you.

Speaker 3 (01:18:11):
Wouldn't think that it would be that close to.

Speaker 2 (01:18:18):
You know, you know what I forgot about I'm sorry,
I forgot your name.

Speaker 1 (01:18:24):
Miguel.

Speaker 2 (01:18:25):
Hey, I forgot about it. I got a good friend
of mine I know for I know for twenty five
years that live here in the where I'm at. He's
passed away. Now I wish he was alive. He could
tell you just what I completely forgot about it until
just now. Lost story short. He was an avid deer hunter,
coon hunter at night and the whole dying yards country

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boy hunter, not scared of anything when you go out
there at night and do all that when if you're
coot hunting hunt And he come to work one morning
and uh, it was deer season. I said, well, you
see it Deer's you get a deer? He said no,
but I saw bigfoot. And he was always cracking jokes
at work and make it, you know, start that. I said,

(01:19:10):
all you saw beef? He said, no, I ain't kidding.
I saw a sasquatch. I said where. He started describing
to me where it was. They're close by his house.
It's a heavily wooded area too, And what had happened.
He was at his deer stand that's on a power
line clearing where they cleared out for power lines, and
he said it was just about getting ready to get

(01:19:31):
up and go back to the house. He didn't see
anything when he said he saw about one hundred yards away.
What he'scribbings that bigfoot walk across that clearing from the
woods in the clearing them back into the woods. Say
he knows. It wasn't a man or a bear or nothing.
He said, it was a bigfoot. And I've forgotten all

(01:19:54):
about him telling me that.

Speaker 1 (01:19:57):
Yeah, that's terrifying. Was that close to the dog Man encounter?

Speaker 2 (01:20:02):
Yeah? Actually, you know what, that's probably ten miles away.

Speaker 1 (01:20:07):
Yeah. That's the strange thing is if you look at
the dog Man encounter map and you line it up
with the bigfoot encountermaps, they're pretty much identical.

Speaker 2 (01:20:18):
Yeah, he said, was if he guessed it was about
eight foot tall. Was this really dark black hair, that
long hairbage? He said, he said, And he know, he
didn't talk about it hardly much anymore. Even after that.
I told a couple of the guys that what was
about it, and never talked about it much ever again.
But he told me he knows what he saw, that's

(01:20:39):
what it was.

Speaker 3 (01:20:41):
Yeah. I ain't really talk much about it it because
people think I'm half nuts, but I know what I saw.
I don't care if you believe me or not. I
saw what I saw.

Speaker 2 (01:20:52):
Yeah, I saw it.

Speaker 1 (01:20:53):
I believe you. And they are out there, and hopefully
I never run into one.

Speaker 2 (01:21:00):
You don't want to, sir, You really don't want to,
like you said, or if you do, look you you're
in a card will.

Speaker 3 (01:21:07):
Paralyze you to know. You don't respine, You're just frozen.
You're frozen.

Speaker 1 (01:21:14):
Yeah, And like I said, I heard one. And the
first thing I did was I slammed that window shut
and I got in my bed and put the covers
over me, and I didn't come out till the next day.

Speaker 2 (01:21:28):
Yeah, you know what the knocking that I'm telling you
about that happened over there. I was waiting. My mind
kind of made up ninety percent that that was probably
a sasquatch that was making those pounding noise on the tree.
I was waiting for an answer back if that's what

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that was. Of course I never heard of one. Do
you think they all three knocks? And then it was
up you know, about five minute poles and it was
eight knocks about two minute paul to another eight docs
and the last two times that did that, you know,
I hollered up in the woods like like I said, like,
whoever you are up there, you're not scaring me, you

(01:22:11):
know when actually they did get my attention that it.

Speaker 3 (01:22:15):
Was well, this creature definitely got my attention that morning.

Speaker 1 (01:22:20):
Yeah, it sounds like they were communicating.

Speaker 2 (01:22:23):
Yeah, and nobody was out there. Nobody was in those woods.
That's seven hundred and seventy two acres there. You have
to if you're going to get to the area I
was at, you have to. If you did, you'd have
to walk a mile up to two miles to get
down there to where I'm at. And I knew, you know,
nobody around there. We know everybody here's there's not twenty
people within a five mile radised to be right here

(01:22:46):
that live here. Nobody's walked down there, and.

Speaker 3 (01:22:50):
That's a twenty two acre pond.

Speaker 2 (01:22:52):
Nobody had walked down there and started beating on trees
just to try.

Speaker 3 (01:22:55):
And it's like down in the color you go down
hill all the way to at that pawn. You know,
hardly anybody knows that cons back there.

Speaker 2 (01:23:06):
Yeah, nobody's left to go in there but us anyway.

Speaker 3 (01:23:08):
Yeah, and nobody knows it's fact there really because it's.

Speaker 2 (01:23:12):
So far in there, Like Tony says, it's to happen again,
We're just I just wandered that land has since sold.
The man that only passed away a few years ago,
his wife got it and she sold it to some
people that just bought it for a million dollars about
I don't know it, maybe a year ago. And they're
fixing the what for roads we had in there. They're

(01:23:33):
fixing them now with dozers an' gonna subdivide it out
and let people build big houses in there. Yeah, So
I'm hoping I'm still around so if that does happen,
and I'll meet any people that do move in there,
if they're gonna have any kind of encounters like that,
the collar running them out.

Speaker 3 (01:23:52):
They don't cleared most woods.

Speaker 1 (01:23:54):
I don't know. I mean, I've heard of some really
developed areas that have had dog ban encounters, and it's scary.
I mean, we're talking about areas with way less woods
and it seems like they'll move through through those areas
at nighttime looking for people's dogs or I don't know
what they're looking for.

Speaker 2 (01:24:13):
I had a dog that man, we sure did you know?
I told you we've been living. I had more than
Berna in the country all my life. And we had
a small choozitsu type dog. And Burnda had started letting
it out more than keep it in the house and
back in longtoy short it disappeared or something that I

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just went out to the front yard to do something
one day and his hair, nothing but just his hair,
no bones. And it was odd because the hair was
at the front door here in the grass all the
way out to my road, which is about fifty feet
away from the house, over toward a light bulb I
have here in the front yard. It was this hair
was scattered from the front door all the way out

(01:24:58):
to there.

Speaker 3 (01:24:58):
It looked like he'd been skiing.

Speaker 2 (01:25:00):
Yeah, well, like all his hair been pulled out, and yeah,
yes it was because all was left of him. And
I assume it was the doll because we never saw
it again.

Speaker 1 (01:25:09):
It was just his hair, yeah, like something plucked the hair.

Speaker 2 (01:25:15):
Yeah, And I wasn't think of Cowley, a wolf or
so Brenda, anything like that, you know, would have got
a hold of him, been done out. There's no there's
no reason to kill it. And it pretty much eat
it like it like it is, you know, not the hair,
the whole freaking dog like pluck it like a chicken.
That was that really kind of bothered me, like like

(01:25:35):
a chicken. That really kind of bothered me.

Speaker 1 (01:25:38):
Yeah, I found deer kill like that, Like there's a
bunch of deer hair, but there's no skin like meat.

Speaker 2 (01:25:48):
Yeah, no blood, no skin, no bows though, signing that
dog whatsoever. But it's hair. And I know that the
hair that it was that was from the dog.

Speaker 1 (01:25:58):
Yeah, I was scared, you know, some type of predator
I got it.

Speaker 2 (01:26:03):
Yeah. Like I said, I've been here all my life
and in his woods and I don't I can't think
what that could have been that would have done that. Yeah,
that was odd that but that was just that's odd.
It's that's just really odd too. You know.

Speaker 3 (01:26:17):
Well that night we were sitting out in the backyard.

Speaker 2 (01:26:20):
Yeah, I don't know now I think about that. We
had a neighbor open here one night just when we
first moved here thirty years ago, now, and we were
all sitting by the fire outside and in the woods
at night. I hear and there's nobody, hardly a lot
of people here is go traffic. You can hear really well.
And you know how good sound travels through woods and
across water too. And we were all sitting on the

(01:26:42):
fire and we were just talking about little or nothing.
All of a sudden we all three heard this extremely
loud screech. We all come to the clusion, well, I thought,
it's well, we were tying down in the bottom right here,
away from our kids, and our kids were younger, and
I got in my mind it was one of the

(01:27:02):
kids screaming to the top of their lungs. And I
took off run towards the house, and he took off
run towards this house was in the bottom to see
if it was his son, and of course I checked
on mine. Here's what them and we all come to
the conclusion that it must have been a panther. No,
we said, a panther. That's the closest thing we can

(01:27:23):
think of that that sound could have been as screeching
and as loud. It was so loud it it seemed
far away, when actually it was it wasn't because it
was so ord It wasn't. It was so loud that,
I mean, the instant we heard it, we just all

(01:27:44):
jumped up. That was that was odd too.

Speaker 3 (01:27:47):
Well, they say a county of streeks like this one county.
Wasn't the wolf wasn't you.

Speaker 2 (01:27:54):
Know yourself believe that as we saw We started asking
people around here if they don't have answers around here,
and they said, yeah, maybe you get lucky if you
see one, and I hope you don't walk up right
on one. But that was a that's something I'll never
forget either.

Speaker 1 (01:28:12):
Yeah, that is strange. So have you guys had any
other experiences that you'd like to share or any questions
for me before we wrap everything up?

Speaker 3 (01:28:22):
No, but yeah, that's all.

Speaker 2 (01:28:23):
But that's all I think of, right, And that's it.
I guess. The just it's just like you. The stuff
you do is it's the unknown. If you know your
mind sees something that can't process or it freaks out. Yeah,
or even sound or even sounds like the tree thing
I told you about it, or even the trees that

(01:28:44):
I told you to get over in a hood like shape.
I mean, the instant I saw them I said, I've
been in this country and the woods all my life,
and I know what tornadoes do the woods. I know
what storms through the woods. I know what washing banks
due to woods and trees is.

Speaker 3 (01:29:01):
This was.

Speaker 2 (01:29:02):
Somebody or something did those trees over and lock them
together in a hut like fashion, and you had to
be you had to have if a human did. They
had to have ropes or what have you to be
up because they were twenty thirty feet tall, you know,
to bend them over there there walk them like that.

Speaker 1 (01:29:23):
Yeah, well, you know for sure that these there's cryptid
creatures in the area and they are around, and you
guys know the truth. There's no sense in trying to
convince non believers. This isn't like some type of cult following.
We know that they're out there and people need to
be aware of it because they are dangerous.

Speaker 3 (01:29:45):
Yeah. You never hear them actually attacking anybody. I mean
they as you do.

Speaker 2 (01:29:51):
You don't watch enough stuff like I do.

Speaker 3 (01:29:53):
What I'm saying is, well, I guess they do. Because
he was waiting, he was ready, he was bowed up
and like here, I am, what's gonna do.

Speaker 2 (01:30:03):
The way when she first explained to me that the
way she talked about that part of it was as
if it was it was eating road killed or something
he killed and she was facing it. Thought she might
be fixing to disturb it. Yeah, that's what That's what
I got from it.

Speaker 1 (01:30:19):
Yeah, it definitely sounds like it. Now, let me ask you, guys,
have you ever heard of the story from the Land
between the Lakes?

Speaker 2 (01:30:27):
No? But I just was watching your stuff. You know,
YouTube will throw up things similar to what you've watched,
and I saw that, and then I saw just a
piece of Ward family went down there camping or something
and killed all of them with the boy or something
like that.

Speaker 3 (01:30:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:30:43):
Yeah, so these things do attack people, and there's been
a lot of reports in the past of people being attacked,
even by sasquatch. But yeah, the dog man, they're definitely hostile.
They will attack you.

Speaker 3 (01:30:56):
Well, this thing was ready for me. He was waiting
on me to make my move. Is is the impression
that I got.

Speaker 1 (01:31:05):
Yeah, it sounds like fight or flight set in for
the creature as well, and he was ready to fight.

Speaker 3 (01:31:10):
Yeah, exactly. He wasn't. He wasn't backing down, he wasn't
scared of me. He didn't run off like a deer
or a dog or or an animal, you know, interacting
with the hen and you know most animals will run,
so to speak.

Speaker 2 (01:31:25):
Yeah, it was great encounter used little.

Speaker 3 (01:31:27):
Yeah, he was he was ready for me. He was like,
I ain't going.

Speaker 1 (01:31:30):
Nowhere, especially if they have a kill site nearby, they're
going to protect it at all costs.

Speaker 3 (01:31:37):
Yeah. I don't know what he was eating because it
was down like in a little ditch area.

Speaker 2 (01:31:41):
Yeah, it was later on. It was a lot later
on when she told me had blood all over his
faces and drip it down. I said, why did you
tell me that the forests? I just forgot about it.
I just forgot.

Speaker 3 (01:31:51):
Well, yeah, you're trying to comprehend everything you're seeing, you know. Basically,
I said, so.

Speaker 2 (01:31:58):
It was down like that when it has been over
is yeah, she said, yeah, it feels like it's been overeating.

Speaker 3 (01:32:02):
So yeah, because he rose up, bowed up, he's ready
to eat me. Yeah. I don't want to get in
that opportunity. I'm sour you don't want me.

Speaker 1 (01:32:16):
Yeah, that's.

Speaker 3 (01:32:18):
I mean. I laugh about it now, but at the
time it wasn't very funny because I really had to
collect myself when I saw that story.

Speaker 2 (01:32:28):
I had to, Well, you know, when you as far
as people believe and stuff like that, I totally understand that.
It's like, you know, if you believe in God, the
Bible and creation and stuff, Jesus was here making a
lot of people see they didn't believe that.

Speaker 1 (01:32:43):
Yeah, absolutely, and even Christians struggle believe in their own faith.
And I mean when you hear about these creatures, it's
just far out there. It's hard to wrap your mind
around it.

Speaker 2 (01:32:53):
Well, I go back to common see it made me
question mine. Let me tell you, I go back to
common says. You had Indians here and other people that
were way before we were that have drawings of them
and all that. And then you've got people like I
told you, they're young to old that there's not tens
of thousands of people making stories up. It's just common sins. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:33:16):
Absolutely, But why why has our government, Why has it
our government or any government on this planet really gone
after because they're keeping in nice shyes, no, really going
after what people are seeing.

Speaker 2 (01:33:27):
Why you know it wouldn't have to be in the
United States. Why hadn't somebody in Yugoslavia, whatever try to
really get teams together and really search for any of
this because.

Speaker 1 (01:33:41):
Why I think it's Yeah, it's it's all being covered up.
And I think even though we have different countries, different leaders,
it's actually a one world government. They're all working together.

Speaker 2 (01:33:54):
What would you think would be the reason, I mean
your opinion, well, you think would be the reason for
the cover of is this gone wrong?

Speaker 3 (01:34:01):
It was something gone like that?

Speaker 1 (01:34:05):
But I think the main reason is to blot out
the name of God. And they want full control over everyone,
and they don't want people to know that each individual matters,
we all have a purpose and you know, we all
have a higher calling. They want to be the ones
in control and not God.

Speaker 2 (01:34:22):
I understand what you're saying. Yeah, I never thought about
that way.

Speaker 3 (01:34:25):
He is, Well, I don't think God is here. He
kind of I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:34:31):
I'll think about believes that it don't believe that.

Speaker 3 (01:34:33):
I think I think, like you said, it is something tomonic.
Yeah it is.

Speaker 1 (01:34:37):
But if you know the demonic exists, you know without
a shadow of doubt that God is real, right exactly, And.

Speaker 3 (01:34:44):
That's what That's what I told you all goo the
the fear I had and I literally thought something happened
and I'm going to spend the resid and hale.

Speaker 2 (01:34:58):
Yeah, that's a matter of thirty seconds unless all that
went through your brain. Well, yeah that was Yeah, I
don't be saying that twenty thirty seconds all that went
through your mother.

Speaker 3 (01:35:08):
But yeah, I didn't know what the really think. I
didn't know how, I didn't know what the process. I
was just telling myself, Oh my god, you know, you know,
I was trying to convince myself I did not see
what I saw. That's what I was trying to do.
Because I saw it, I didn't want to see it.
I wish I could unsee it.

Speaker 2 (01:35:25):
Yeah, because it's terrified you so much.

Speaker 3 (01:35:27):
Yeah. Yeah, and the eyes, I'll never forget them eyes.
I don't care.

Speaker 2 (01:35:31):
What do you think is about those eyes with you?

Speaker 1 (01:35:36):
A lot of people have claimed that the eyes self
illuminate or when light shines on them, they they light up.
But I don't know. I almost feel like if you
look at one, they can control you in some way
shape or for him, like and still fear into your soul.

Speaker 2 (01:35:56):
Yeah, with them, we don't have it, don't We don't
have that same thing happening with with the big Foot
with the.

Speaker 1 (01:36:02):
Eyes, right, No, it's happening as well. There's a lot
of people that claim they had red eyes, but it's
not common, but it does come up every now and then.

Speaker 2 (01:36:13):
Well it's either something just totally freaked out by all
our planets and stuff, or I don't believe it's a
possibility to back whenever two things got together wasn't supposed
to or whatever in.

Speaker 1 (01:36:28):
There you have it, Yeah, absolutely, I don't know. Maybe
it gives them some type of vision like the predator,
like they're able to see in thermal and night vision
at the same time.

Speaker 2 (01:36:40):
Right, and the few handfuls I've watched over the beefood
sasquas include yours is of course a lot of people
don't know that you would and I would because being
in the country all my life is how extremely smart
they are.

Speaker 1 (01:36:56):
Yeah, yeah, they're definitely intelligent. They're extremely intelligent.

Speaker 2 (01:37:01):
At the same time, I believe that a couple of
guys that might been some on your show or some
of them, was that I believe that they're what they
said they are. They're curious about us.

Speaker 3 (01:37:14):
I ain't curious about us. They they they won't youse dinner.

Speaker 2 (01:37:18):
Don't you think they are? But gil curious about us too.

Speaker 1 (01:37:21):
I think they are and like what Brenda said earlier,
like possibly they're breeding with humans and I think they
have some type of some type of fascination with us
or I don't know, they're watching people for a reason.

Speaker 2 (01:37:35):
I can't even imagine that happened. I couldn't even you
can't even imagine something like that. That'd be terror. I mean,
that'd be I don't know that. I don't know. I
don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:37:48):
Yeah, well, nobody can explain it. Really Well, it's nice.

Speaker 2 (01:37:53):
Talking to you.

Speaker 1 (01:37:54):
Yeah, it was nice speaking with you guys, and I'm
glad you opened up about this encounter. And I know
that it's bother you for many years and it always will.
So it means a lot that you spoke openly about
this and it's good to get the truth out there
because these things are out there in the woods.

Speaker 2 (01:38:10):
Yeah, we're going to tell a handful of friends over
the last twenty five years of so sad this happened
because they you know, they'll more people I think don't
believe they do believe it.

Speaker 3 (01:38:21):
Don't go walking in the woods at night, and definitely
don't go walking in the woods without armor, some kind
of protection, some sword. Yeah, back and down. They are
not backing down. No, if you're coming into their territory,
that's their territory. What are you doing in my territory?

(01:38:45):
You know? That's that's what I got from this thing.

Speaker 2 (01:38:49):
One really quick, I'll let you go. That I've washed
to go on YouTube A hunter experience. It's one of
the best ones I've ever seen. That God look really
convincing to me, like the latest one you did with
the guy that shot that one. He was an avid
deer hunter, be in the woods all his life and
got to the edge of a field with three four

(01:39:09):
foot tall grass and he saw trees being shaken across
the other side of the field. And as he was
telling his story, he knew there wasn't a human that
was doing that over there. Could hear what he thought
was more than one And and he stops talking to

(01:39:30):
the guy that's interviewed and he looks at him. He says, Hey,
you gotta remember now, I've been in these woods all
my life. I've got thirty six in my hand, and
I'm laying down the grass terrified.

Speaker 3 (01:39:42):
Yeah. Yeah, that's what I'm saying, that you're in And that's.

Speaker 2 (01:39:45):
What got me about his story. And he went on
the tail that he rose up and see when he
thought one was coming towards him across that field. When
he got up and ran, and he said to this
to look the guy that was there. To this day,
I haven't I haven't hunted more.

Speaker 3 (01:40:03):
Yeah, he definitely could put the fear of God in me.

Speaker 2 (01:40:05):
But yeah, I never thought about that. Him saying a
thirty six with him and was still terrified. Yeah, that
kind of explained to me somewhat would bring us all.
What she saw, what she saw, how much it terrified her.

Speaker 3 (01:40:18):
It really did.

Speaker 1 (01:40:19):
Yeah, I've heard that a lot people will have a
firearm and kind of forget that they even had it
in their hands, or they're shaking so bad that they
can't even get it up to shoot, or they just
know it won't do anything to the creature. They can
just tell I never see one.

Speaker 2 (01:40:35):
I wouldn't mind ever seeing one, but I'm hoping. I'm
I want to be some distance between me and what
you think the distance for the matter.

Speaker 3 (01:40:44):
As veg as he was, you know, his stride would
probably be.

Speaker 2 (01:40:48):
I think Bernason counter though, was one of the closest
I've seen them YouTube or TV. I picture her sitting
in the car and where she was in the road. Well,
that thing was you Shelby robbery was standard, and that's
an estimated fifteen to twenty feet from it. So I
think hers is one of the close closest encounters as

(01:41:10):
far as distance to one of those things.

Speaker 3 (01:41:13):
If I would if he had jumped out in front
of me, and if I hit him, it would have been,
like I think, would have been like hitting a tree.
That's that's how big he was, you know, seven eight
foot tall. That's pretty big. You know, the impact if
I would have hit him with my car, The impact,
just the impact, you know, I don't know how it

(01:41:36):
would be like on a human, but just the impact
of him, you know, hitting my car. Do you understand
what I'm trying to say?

Speaker 1 (01:41:46):
Maybe, yeah, absolutely, I don't think it'd do too much.

Speaker 3 (01:41:52):
I don't think I could have hurt him. You know,
I wasn't going that fast because I had, you know,
down because stop sign. You know, I'm driving along, I
know the stop signs right there and coasting. Yeah, I'm
coasting because I'm fitting have to stop the stop sign.

(01:42:12):
I didn't stop. I kept going and I did not
look back. I did not look back.

Speaker 1 (01:42:20):
Yeah, and I think you handled the situation. Well, and
it was good that you got out of there as
quickly as possible.

Speaker 3 (01:42:27):
Oh, I definitely panicked.

Speaker 2 (01:42:29):
Yeah, yeah, that so that young boy told me that
after the second time of bringing it up, when they
were talking about their story, and he said he floored
his because he had mentioned that the first time her
When he didn't say it, I said, I think I
would have stopped, and he said, man, no, you would
not floored my truck. As far as I could floor

(01:42:50):
it out, didn't tarify it, blew up. I was getting
far away from whatever we just saw. I said, well, crap,
you sound as terrified as my wife was when she
saw it. You know, the action is definitely the time
that's hard for me to imagine. I haven't seen one
to be inside of a vehicle moving, and I'm scared
of it. I know you understand that.

Speaker 1 (01:43:13):
Yeah, the same reaction, the same state, the same creature
forty miles apart.

Speaker 2 (01:43:19):
Yeah yeah, yeah, that was just I'm glad that kind
of happened like it did.

Speaker 3 (01:43:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:43:27):
Yeah, And and I thought about it later when she
was telling her sting and then they both were sitting there.
Never said a word. I didn't think about that later
till it was all over, told Bresta. You know, they said, there,
listen to what you said, the whole entire thing and
didn't say a word, and so you were doing to
talk about it, and they both looked at us and

(01:43:48):
said we saw the same thing.

Speaker 3 (01:43:52):
And I'm like, what, yeah, nonsong. They just calm and
calm to be just so.

Speaker 2 (01:43:57):
They told their story and then they drew a picture
thing of like, while.

Speaker 3 (01:44:02):
That's all the same whatever you want to call it,
demonic creature, because that's what it is.

Speaker 2 (01:44:10):
Other they talked about the red eyes too, how redicize.

Speaker 1 (01:44:13):
Were Yeah, yeah, that's freaking just I just froze.

Speaker 3 (01:44:18):
In my car. I just froze, literally froze. I was
shaking somebody that could even change the gears in my
car because it was a stick, you know. So I'm
trying to you know, drive, change gears, get away from
this animal creature, devilous looking thing.

Speaker 1 (01:44:40):
Well it was to us talking to you, Yeah, yeah, absolutely,
there's a pleasure speaking with you, Tony and Brenda and
I really.

Speaker 2 (01:44:49):
Yeah, I'll keep your number in my phone case we do,
you know, run into anything that we believe is legitimate
to tell you about.

Speaker 1 (01:44:57):
Okay, Yeah, that sounds good to me, and I appreciate
everything you guys did today.

Speaker 2 (01:45:03):
Oh you too. I'll keep an eye on your show.
We watch them a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:45:07):
Okay, yep, that sounds great, and you guys have an
excellent day. And if you encounter anything else, feel free
to reach out to me.

Speaker 2 (01:45:15):
Yeah, I'm gonna Hey, I'm gonna keep up on watching
your show, so if you seeing her anything else, we
will want to be able to see it.

Speaker 1 (01:45:23):
Okay, that sounds good and I'll let you guys go. Yeah,
and I appreciate it. Thank you for joining us on
sasquatch theory. Brenda's haunting memory of the Red Eyes in
the Mississippi Night and Tony's powerful sasquatch encounter remind us
that the unknown is closer than we think. To me,

(01:45:44):
it sounds like Brenda encountered the creature at the kill site,
and she did mention. This creature had blood all over
its face and it was dripping blood, so it probably
killed something. And she happened to be there at the
wrong time. I can't imagine what she felt like when
she laid eyes on this creature. And when you encounter

(01:46:05):
something like this, it's something you will never forget. I
often hear people say I just really want to see one,
and I don't think you do. It can really affect
your mind and cause some serious issues. So yeah, you
definitely don't want to see one. She's definitely lucky the
creature already had a kill, because I feel like it

(01:46:27):
would have pursued the vehicle. I've heard reports where these
things are chasing after people as they drive away, and
one guy referenced this creature running next to the vehicle
and he could hear the nails clicking on the pavement
as it ran next to his truck. If you've had
your own cryptid experience, reach out. We'd love to hear
your story. Don't forget to subscribe, share this episode, and

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stay tuned for more investigations into the mysteries that walk
among us. Until the next time, keep your eyes open
because you never know what's out there.

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