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September 15, 2025 104 mins
In this episode of Sasquatch Theory, I welcome Jimmy back for his 3rd appearance on the show. Jimmy has spent countless hours deep in the Daniel Boone National Forest of Kentucky, and over the years he has witnessed some of the most intense Sasquatch activity ever reported.

From family camping trips that turned terrifying when multiple Sasquatch charged down the mountainside, to being chased out of the woods while bowhunting, Jimmy has lived through it all. In this new interview, he shares the latest encounters he’s had since my last visit.

Jimmy reveals:

Sasquatch vocalizations he captured on video in January 2025.

Photos of strange activity around his property.

Orbs of light appearing in the forest.

A Sasquatch running directly in front of his vehicle.

These chilling accounts add even more weight to his already incredible story. Don’t miss this powerful conversation as we explore the mystery of Sasquatch in Kentucky’s Daniel Boone National Forest.

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Hey, everyone, Miguel Ramirez here from Sasquatch Theory. On today's podcast,
we have Jimmy back on the show from the Daniel
Boone National Forest in Kentucky to update us with all
the new activity that he's had. If you didn't catch
his last interview, I will leave it on the end
screen and in the description down below. Jimmy has been
feeding the deer and trying to get trailcam photos of

(00:26):
really nice bucks, and it turns out that he was
feeding the sasquatch one time. He went up on the
ridge was dumping out corn and these things fired off
and they were hollering. Jimmy was able to get pretty
good video of the vocalizations and it is unlike anything
I've ever heard in my life, without a doubt, one

(00:46):
hundred percent bigfoot. Jimmy claims he was unknowingly gifting these
creatures and when he stopped, he feels like the activity
really intensified. People claim that wood knocking and calling out
to these creatures is not work and it's complete bogus,
but Jimmy has proof in the video that he shared
with me, and he calls out to these creatures and

(01:08):
they respond. Keep in mind that a lot of those
people saying that wood knocking and calling doesn't work have
no idea what they're talking about, and they're just repeating
what they've heard other channels and people say so, just
disregard them and know that wood knocking and calling does work.
I do not recommend it, and I don't think any
children out there listening to this should go out in

(01:30):
the woods and would knock, because you might call one
of these things in. I appreciate all my podcast listeners
on Spotify, iHeartRadio, Apple Podcast, or whatever platform.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
It may be.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
If you want to see the videos Jimmy shared and
all the trail camp photos, you can check it out
on my YouTube. With all that being said, let's dive
into Jimmy's bigfoot encounters in the Daniel Boone National Forest
in Kentucky. All right, Jimmy, welcome back to Sasquatch Theory.

(02:08):
How are you doing today?

Speaker 3 (02:09):
I'm doing good, buddy.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
How are you doing excellent? It's a pleasure to have
you back on the show, Jimmy. Not too long ago,
we got together and we did some bigfoot research in
the areas where you've had your past encounters at and
it was certainly a spooky squatchy area in the Daniel
Booe National Forest. When we went there, we could hear
something paralleling us on the Forest Service roads and trails.

(02:33):
And then when we got way back there, I did
a whoop call and it sounded like something called back.
It didn't sound like any known animal. I don't even
know if it was bigfoot. It could have been like
a canine creature, but you could hear him down at
the river and we walked a long ways. But you've
had some activity since our last trip. Can you tell
me about the things that you've experienced since I've last

(02:56):
spoken to you.

Speaker 3 (02:59):
Yeah, uh yeah, I remember that that evening we went
over there and it was kind of crazy, but uh
I didn't I just you know, showed you all the spots,
you know, where I'd had my stuff happened before. But
what I didn't realize is, you know, I didn't say
too much when in was here, but uh, these things are.

(03:20):
I've had more activity, just as bad, other than a
straight on face to face like I had before. But
uh now it's just uh, you know I was after
you all left, you know, the the orbs started just
started having weird stuff happening to me, and the uh,

(03:41):
the my cameras are there. You know, there's a new top.
You know, sent a picture to yourself. I was getting
orbs and and uh, then one evening my camera went
off and and uh, it's set up to where you know,
if it's something's coming, it's coming to me. And when
I pulled it up, it's a ghost. And I sent
you that picture, and it's just it's been crazy ever since.

(04:05):
But I can't remember. I believe I told you about
the orb and then send just whatever it was moving
up the ridge beside me. Didn't we on the last time?

Speaker 1 (04:19):
I think you did. Can you tell me about it again?

Speaker 3 (04:24):
Yeah, well I don't know if it has anything to
do with it, but well I think it has a
whole lot to do with it. But anyway, after I
went by myself back up to some of the places
I told you, it wasn't. Three weeks later, just all
kinds of crazy stuff started happening around here. I mean

(04:49):
I was finding track, rock stacks, excuse me, and tree
breaks and I got a picture of an imprint in
the leaves that I wears I was thirteen and to
have my boot and I put it next to it,
and it dwarfed it. But it all started off. I
was seeing, just seeing and hearing stuff. I was hearing

(05:10):
high pitched whistles, and it was like somebody was looking
at me, you know, trying to get me to look
at you know, because I was hunting. You know, hey,
I'm here, you know, don't shoot. But nothing. I couldn't
see nothing. So one evening I moved my position and
I'm sitting there and I'm looking up to where I

(05:31):
usually hunt, and all of a sudden, this white lot
is it starts out maybe a little bigger than a softball,
but I mean, HiT's a white brig lot and it
just comes up out of nowhere. And I'm sitting there
and I'm looking at it, and I'm thinking, you know,
what the hell am I looking at? And then I
kept I mean, this went on. I probably looked this

(05:54):
thing for anywhere two to four minutes maybe, and I
got out of my little blind and I stood up
and I was looking at it, and I thought, well,
that old man's brought his granson back here to hunt.
And that's why I got out, you know, just to
see if I could see him. When I got out,
I realized I was looking totally in the wrong direction.
This was coming off of a little finger ridge. But

(06:15):
this ball, it started out a little bitger softball or yeah, softball,
and then it went up to maybe the size of
a soccer ball, and it had these rays coming out
each side. I called them rods. They went from the
thickness of that ball down to a point. And I
mean these things were out eight to ten feet, but
I don't know if that's just swear. The light was

(06:35):
bright making it look like that, and I was trying
to figure out what the hell I was looking at,
and then it just I mean, it's quick, it was there.
It's just proof. It went off like it wasn't even there.
And I thought, was that ball light? And I thought, well, god, no,
it's in the wintertime and it was overcast, no rain,
no storms, no nothing. So I got back in the

(06:57):
blind and was sitting there and went I'm thinking maybe
five minutes it went by or something, and I caught
movement out on my peripheral vision. Now on my left eye.
It was on the same little finger ridge, but up
about forty fifty yards from that, I seen what looked
like an upright whatever this was, it was It was

(07:18):
a charcolate brown that kind of have a red tint
to it, and it was moving. I just seen movement.
I didn't really break down to look and see what
it was at that time. It just movement caught my eye,
so I turned and looked, and it went behind a
pine tree that wasn't real big, maybe twelve sixteen inches
in diameter, had never come out to the other side,

(07:40):
and I thought, what where was I looking at? And
then about I don't know, not even ten yards up
and from it it come out again. I seen movement again.
Each time I turned my head, that's when i'd see movement.
When I turned back, he'd go behind a tree. It
had done that three different times going up at ridge.
And that's when I got up and I said, no,

(08:01):
I'm not doing this and I come home and that's
when when I got here, she was all tore up.
While all this was going on, something to come up
and smack the back of the house here that had
mud on it, like something had been thrown. You could
see mud about twelve feet up. It was just right
under the soft I mean, I don't know what the

(08:21):
hell that would have been. And it was just it
was just constantly. I was seeing like smoke, you know,
how you got a peripheral vision. I was just seeing
movie flashes of dark stuff, you know. And I've had
to deal with that my whole life and really never

(08:41):
paid attention to it. But just everything kept escalating up,
and it just kept ramping up. The more I went over,
the more the more stuff it was happening to me.
And I don't know, man, I just and that was Yeah,
that happened right before where you all come down than
after you all left is when it it really got crazy.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
Yeah, so you were already having activity before the Ozar
carry man myself came down to Kentucky.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
To visit you.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
Yeah, yeah, that is strange because when the Ozar carry
man found an Airbnb cabin, I was shocked that he
actually found one that was like right down the road
from you, Like we we all had no idea.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
It was just random.

Speaker 3 (09:29):
Yeah no, And I mean that, I mean I just
couldn't believe you wasn't you ain't Williams was staying. Was
not even a half a mile from me, just across
the main road. I mean, it was never even knew
they had one over there. But I mean, just things
worked out, and I wish that because I don't. I
don't know if we'd have got anything. But you know,

(09:51):
I never always thought that you what I've seen two
different times have been paralleled, more than I could even count.
And all my dads and brothers have been I have
had these things, encounters with these these things, and I
always thought, like where I live now and around where

(10:12):
people was seeing, you know, and I'm I'm not far
out of town. But I was wrong. These things I
believe in these areas may just as much, if not
more than deep than where we went.

Speaker 1 (10:24):
Yeah, it blew my mind that we went super deep
into the Daniel Boone National Forest. And after we left,
you're having activity at your house, Like behind your house,
is that the Cumberland River back there?

Speaker 3 (10:36):
Yeah, okay it is, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
That's that's wild.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
Okay, So if you would tell us about these experiences
that you had after we left Kentucky.

Speaker 3 (10:46):
Okay, well after you all left, you know, I have
Let's see, I'm trying to think Winians was here, but
this all, this all really took off. And see when
was it I sent you the picture. I'm pretty sure
it was like the first of January, somewhere in there.

(11:09):
I had been, you know, feeding the deer. We like
just feed them and get them on cameras and stuff.
So we go up there. I get out of the
truck like I've done a hundred times before, throw the
sack feed on my back and walk up or to it.
Soon as I took it off, in that bag of
feed hit the ground. I got the first call and

(11:32):
I have got a picture this. I sent you the
exact time that that corn hit the ground as one
of the first growl, scream or whatever it was. And
I'm looking up and I mean, I don't know, it's
just crazy. So I'm thinking, my mind, I just heard
something because of echoing off the river because I'm not there,

(11:53):
And so I poured out and she's in the truck.
So I poured a corn out and I'm going back
down there. But me walking through it had snowed a
little bit and it was everything was frozen. It was crunching.
But as I'm going back to the truck, which is
a far I'm hearing these things and I'm thinking, you're crazy,
you're losing your mind that you're not hearing this. And

(12:14):
the first thing that we heard when I got back there,
right before you hear the first I mean it was
far off, but it was real deep. You hear like
a low grumble or a growl, and then that it
was like right there next to us. Then it was
off in the distance. You heard the big growl like roar.

(12:36):
Basically that was probably I'm gonna say, three to five
seconds long. And then uh, maybe five seconds after that,
across the river, you hear this one fire up and
you get you know what I'm saying. You got the
audio and the video of it. Uh, but altogether, I
think I ended up recording a video was seventeen or

(12:59):
night ten minutes long, and toward the end, I know,
I got excited and everything. But toward the end, when
I'm hollering back, this thing is responded to me and
he had moved closer, and I mean I just couldn't
believe it. And I kept thinking to myself, I knew it.
I mean, all this stuff I was seeing just a

(13:20):
few months ago was you know, wasn't in my head.
I mean, these things are here, and I was feeding
it here before I headed back down to Tennessee to
go to work. I stayed down there during the week,
and so I didn't want to leave, but I had to,
so I go to work. Four or five days later,

(13:43):
we come back and we get here to the house
and we're not in the house maybe thirty forty five
minutes at the most, Miguel, and we're sitting here watching TV.
And I don't know. It's never happened to me, but
we were here in owl so loud it was over
the sound of the TV playing, and I had a feeling,

(14:06):
I thought, And I walk out on the open of
my back door and step out on the porch and
the ridge behind my house is where I hunt, and
up on the very top was the first hoot alcohol
and you could tell they were so they were trying
to mimic one, but it was not an owl. And
there was six of them that started at the ridge

(14:26):
and it worked all the way down and the very
last alcohol was exactly where I feed the deer. And
I thought, you've got to be kidding me. And I
knew it. I knew then. I thought, yeah, so you
know they're still here, and I'll be honest with you.
It under settled me a little bit. It scared me
a little bit because it was dark, but I was

(14:47):
hearing stuff crashing through because it was still cold. It
had been cold for a week or two. I think here,
and so I come back in and step out on
the front porch and where I seen the stuff. That's
I'm going to get into a few minutes about all
the orbs recently. You could hear something moving and it

(15:09):
spooked herned she come back inside and shortly after I did,
and you could tell whatever this was, I mean, it
wasn't right. I come in and get my phone and
I go back out and down the steps on the
back porch and I'm I'm hearing them over on the
ridge where I was hunting at. But I started hearing

(15:32):
the leaves and stuff like something moving through the trees.
And I turned it around and that's when I got
the eye shine and it was probably about eighty yards
from me. And I sent you that video when I pictures.
I'm pretty sure too that was that was unsettling, and

(15:52):
because whatever it was was standing there looking at me,
and I just had a feeling turned around and when
I did, because I was filming off where I was hunting,
and I turned around and these these eyes and there
it's a moonlit night and you can see there's this
light skimm of snow on the ground. But these eyes
are self illuminating and they are huge, and that's uh,

(16:17):
I don't know that. That's just something that's terrifying. And
and then I I have started having the the dreams
and stuff like that. Again, I don't know, but the
only thing I can. I don't care if anybody believes me.
I really don't. But all this kicked off after me
going back up or to where I've had my worst

(16:41):
and encounter that I've ever had in my life. And
then when me and her was up at camping and
we was here in one screen that night up there,
it sat like a siren. I went to those two
places and uh, three weeks later, I mean, the past
two or three weeks ain't been bad here. I can
tell when they're around every dog in the valley raising
haill and you could just tell just something, don't feel rot.

(17:05):
But now it just it just keeps going on.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
After that, Yeah, that's definitely spooky activity. And I had
a feeling that you were going to continue having bigfoot
encounters because when I first interviewed you, you told me
the story where you were camping with your family and
this thing came down the mountain, and I remember every
detail about it, and I think you said it was

(17:30):
your uncle. He had the rifle and he was shaken
so bad he could barely hold the rifle, and you
thought it was normal, Like you grew up as a
child thinking that this type of phenomenon was just normal.
And I had the same experience when I had my
bigfoot encounters later on in life, Like after I encountered them,

(17:50):
like it rewired my brain, and I felt like everyone
would know what I was talking about, especially big time hunters,
Like if you would mention bigfoot to them, they'd be like, oh, yeah,
I've had experiences too, but like nobody seemed to know
what I was talking about, And it just gave me
that feeling. So I'm sorry you had to grow up
as a child, you know, confused by this, thinking that

(18:11):
it was normal and everybody knew about it, but they
didn't no.

Speaker 3 (18:15):
And what made me think that it was normal. My
dad wouldn't really say nothing because he didn't want to
scare me. And you know how it is when you're
camping with you a bunch of your uncles and then
there's any drinking involved, which there was as a kid
growing up that changes. Everybody got older. But it was
just an encounter after encounter. I mean, there was fifteen

(18:39):
of them on my dad's side somewhere, step brothers and sisters,
but all my uncles and stuff. Ever. One of them
had had stuff happen, been chased out of the woods.
Coon dogs got in a fight with something. The coon
dogs hit the river and this thing one of them
tried to come in under the cliff on them. And
it's just, I mean, I thought it was normal, I
really did, and it just I just honestly, I didn't

(19:03):
tell nobody because my uncle he's dead now, Uncle Jim,
he told me, he said, boy, you just keep this
stuff your stuff. He said, they'll think you crazy. He said,
just don't tell no one. And because I was going
off of him telling me what had happened to you know,
nobody would believe him and stuff like that. But I
just stayed away from a lot of these spots. And

(19:28):
like I said, you know, I've got proof that you
know I'm telling the truth because it's dead witnesses, and
it's just I don't know, it's hard to explain me
standing away all them years and I come back here
and then last year three weeks after being last or
actually it was this fall be two years ago, but

(19:52):
three weeks after I come back from going up in there.
This stuff is happening here, and I don't know if
it was done already here, and it just took me
that long to figure out. But one of the first trips,
I went back here behind the house. She'd got me
a crossbow, and there's a huge seater thicket that runs
this bluff. The only way is there's a no logging
road that I was on, but all the game trails

(20:14):
were going right through the cedar thickets, you know how.
The game loved the cedar thickets. So I'm going around.
I get all the way around there to the end
of it, and it's probably a quarter mile long, and
I'd say no more than sixty to eighty yards wide,
and get around there to the end, and something startles me.
A sound died and when I turned around, it sounded

(20:34):
like a tree falling, you know how when they followed yours,
breaking all kinds of stuff, just limbs, And when I
turned around, I was looking to see something, but this
kept falling for like fifteen twenty seconds, just crashing like
a tree falling, and when stuff like this happens to you,
it takes your brain. Your brain's trying to figure out

(20:55):
what in the hell's going on. And then about that time,
about one hundred to two hundred blackbirds come ripping out
over my head. And what I didn't realize some of
them was running through that thicket poured me and stopped
right at the edge, no more than fifty yards from me,
And that scared me to death. I went home. I

(21:17):
called her and I said, I I've just had something happen.
I'm coming home. I can't do this. I mean, how
do you explain the sound of a tree falling for
fifteen to twenty seconds and that's just it's all right here.
I mean, all of this stuff is just right here
at my house.

Speaker 2 (21:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
So you have a family history of bigfoot experiences and
it was normal in your family growing up.

Speaker 3 (21:43):
Oh yeah, and everybody that grew up down around my
dad and stuff. I remember my dad said when he
was a young kid growing up, there was this lady
that lived by herself. Her husband had passed away, lived
out on the end of a ridge right and right
behind her house, dropped straight off to the river, and
said that he remembers my grandpa talking to other men

(22:08):
and my dad and all his brothers would be there
about how these wood boogers were coming up to steal
her chickens and she was shooting at and trying to
run it off, and they just thought it was normal.
I mean, they were like, oh, yeah, just leave them alone.
You know, they ain't going to bother you. It was

(22:28):
just right around where dad and them grew up. It
was I think normal normally. It was just I don't know,
it didn't bring up strike up any news if you
know what I'm saying, you know, about to bring up
a conversation. Everybody just knew it was the fact.

Speaker 1 (22:47):
Yeah, absolutely, And it's pretty interesting that your families had experiences,
so you did have that you weren't completely isolated. But yeah,
when you talk to other people, they don't see to
know what like what you're talking about. And I've I
actually had an interview on my channel from that same area.

(23:08):
The guy called it the Burnside Monster, and he was
on the show. And you know, this is fairly close
to where you're at. I'm not going to say exactly
where you are, but you know it's the Daniel Boone
National Forest which is pretty darn big. But you have
the shadow person or a sasquatch, I don't know. You
got that on the trail camera, and to me it

(23:29):
looks like the real deal.

Speaker 2 (23:31):
What do you think it is?

Speaker 3 (23:34):
I don't know, man, I don't know if it's turn normal.
I don't know what the hell it is. But you
can imagine, and you can see in the picture it's
right at dusky dark. So imagine sitting in the woods
where you've had all this stuff going on. Your phone
vibrates and you look at it and you can tell
the you know how you set your camera, if you
can tell what's coming to you. Now, that's just it's

(23:54):
not a comfortable feeling at all. And hell, uh that
was all last fall or an earlier part of this year,
and just the last three weeks it's been quiet, but uh,
hell a month and a half ago. I mean, it's
just it's it's just kept going. But I'll back up

(24:18):
before I get into uh, if you want me to
tell you about the orbs outside the house, I can
go into that, or we can talk about something else.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
Now, yeah, absolutely, let's talk about it.

Speaker 3 (24:28):
All right. Well, I got a big call blaster, so uh,
that's uh bluetooth. And you remember the all of the
audio I sent you and and you sent it to
Ozar carry man, Well, I got some back in some
different ones. So, uh, we go up on the hill

(24:51):
or I don't want to give it away too much,
for I was close to where I was, basically right
on top of where I hunt, and uh, it's a
perfect place. It's a very high ridge bluff's blow and
I just I don't know. I thought I'm gonna go
up there, and I was not expecting this at all,

(25:12):
and I've got a witness to it. I mean, we
parked the truck, turned it off. I'm kind of screwing
around with it because that's the first time I've really
let it play through. I play my call. Man. I mean,
I've never heard of echo run the way these canyons
do and the where the river runs. And I mean

(25:34):
it was just like you had a PA system for
miles either direction, and I hear something but it was
way off, but I know the direction that was coming at.
So I waited a second or two. I mean, this
all happens within thirty to forty five seconds of me
turning the truck off. I hit that thing again and

(25:54):
when it blasts off this time, no, whatever it is.
It was a moonlit and I and you could see
about about approximately where this thing was. I got a
response back, and I mean it was a loud vocalization
and I was fumbling around and I still need to
send those audio things so you can plug them in

(26:16):
and bleed them through. But yeah, that was that was crazy.
Done it to truth? Well? No more tu or three times?
It was flowly four or five times. I got several responses.
And then you know how kytie is when when we
were down there, you could play a call on how

(26:38):
they'll you can tell when they're answered to you, coming
to you. I got that response. But it sounded like
they was a pack of twenty five of them at least,
if not more. They were over. It sounded like they
were fighting and ripping each other apart. They wouldn't yeping
and howling and carrying on like they do. I mean,
these things were fighting. And what they were fighting, I
have no idea. And it was across the lake from me,

(27:01):
and I said, yep, I'm done with this, and I
turned around because I wasn't facing out like I should
have been, So I went down the road and turned
around and come back to the house. This was on
a Friday night or Saturday night. Well, get up Monday morning.
I have to get up at four and leave at
four point thirty. And so Monday morning I go out

(27:24):
and go down the steps, and I don't know why
I don't. I don't never look that way because I've
got the little solar lights that light up my sidewalk,
my concrete sidewalk. Always. They were looking there and I
hit the key fob on the truck, you know, light
it up because it's dark, and I don't know, something
just caught my eye. I don't know if it was

(27:45):
a peripheral vision or whatever, but anyway, looked over and
they I thought it was dear eyeshow and there were
six or seven they were I thought eyeballs at first,
I really did, but the longer I stared at him.
This went on for probably ten to fifteen second I
was looking at them, and I realized, no, they ain't
to them side beside. I couldn't really judge how high

(28:08):
they were off the ground. I know once I started
looking at them, and I ruled out it was in
the deer. They were way higher than what of deer's
eyes would be. But they wasn't together in sets of twos,
if you know what I mean. And they were like
a light blue and a light green, and they were
kind of scattered a little bit, but no more than
fifteen feet apart. All of them wasn't but the farthest

(28:30):
one to the right was They were all the size
of I would say, easily a golf ball, but the
farthest one to the right was a light green. And
all of a sudden, I can stand in front of
God right now. This thing takes off going up through
the trees. The leaves were starting to grow pretty good.
This is just a month and a half ago. This

(28:53):
thing takes off and just starts floating up. I could
see it going up through the leaves and you can
see the tree limbs where you know, you could see
the city lights and everything. And it goes up and
just goes up into the sky. And I said, hell, no,
I'm not doing this, and I just kept hitting my
Keith Fobin got in the truck and left. Tuesday morning,
I get up and go out there there again. I

(29:13):
didn't really try to count on how many balls of
life they were. I ignored it and went to the truck.
The third morning I went out, I would not look
that way. I just had a creepy feeling. And then
it was probably just me spook not knowing what it was.
But Thursday morning, when I went out, I got to
the truck and I thought, you know what, I'm going

(29:35):
to look over there, and when I did, there was
one single orb there. And that was just two days
after me coming off the mountain up here call blasted.

Speaker 1 (29:46):
Yeah, so you feel like hall blasting triggered this activity?

Speaker 3 (29:51):
Oh, I know it did, Yeah, because like I said,
I had them when I was up here, when I
seen the first big orb and you can see where
Mudd been slung against the house. And I mean, it's
not me just talking about this, you know. And I've
told you before I thought it was normal. And when
I talk about this stuff, they're not stories to me.

(30:13):
A story is something you make up. If you have
a true encounter, you know you and God knows the truth.
And but I just you know, here again one starts.
It seems like every time I start trying to dabble
and research or just kind of do a little bit more,
it just seems like these things will start popping up

(30:34):
but after the I want to back up a little bit,
before the orbs, but after all the alcohols and eye shine.
It went on for ture or three weeks. I mean,
it was crazy around here, and I could tell when
they were around. Every dog in this valley was raising hell.
And you go outside and there would be no sounds whatsoever,
but these dogs just raising hell, and I could just

(30:57):
tell that they were around. And just two weeks ago,
we went fishing, brought my boat back and my nephew said,
oh my god, what was that. That's what you mean?
He said, don't you hear that walking up there? And
I said, yeah, I forgot about that. But back to
the orbs and stuff, and it was just it was

(31:22):
all for me, all for me going up there. But
I don't, I don't know how to explain it all, man,
I really don't. I mean, people need to realize these
things are they're not made up, and people ain't doing
it to seek any fame or glory, because I damn
sure ain't done it. And I'm just I thought it

(31:44):
was normal. And I've sent you all the stuff. I've
got three audio clips I need to send you, but
I really don't, I really don't know how to explain
everything that's happened. And oh, yeah, a couple of weeks ago,
and I can't remember the same evening, me and my nephew,
same one. It's fishing and uh, a rock thirty feet

(32:09):
out from the mank because splash, it hits no trees
hanging over, So you tell me where or not unless
a meteor fell out of the sky. And this ain't
This ain't the first time this has ever happened. It's
happened to me and my dad before. But my nephew,
I mean, it was just a splash. Nobody around, there's
no houses around. We're up in a feeder creek. Uh,

(32:30):
no trees overhanging. So what's the size of a baseball
that hits the water?

Speaker 2 (32:39):
Yeah, that is strange.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
I often wonder like what the connection is with the
orbs and the sasquatch activity, But in my opinion, it's
certainly connected. And do you think that you were seeing
eye shine or orbs or orbs and eyeshine?

Speaker 3 (32:57):
You know, I've never really thought all of that, miguil h.
I don't know. I've never even because the only thing
I was taken away that it wasn't a year they
were too far apart. Now that's got me thinking.

Speaker 1 (33:19):
Yeah, absolutely, it seems like they've targeted you, like you're
on their radar. You've been marked by them, and they're
just following you throughout your life. Obviously it doesn't happen
every day, but sometimes it happens a lot more than others.
And I don't know, I do feel like it's strange,
Like you sent me those videos of those vocalizations that

(33:41):
were amazing, by the way, and like right after that,
I told you I was going to send you my
audio recorder. I sent it, and then you ended up
having surgery and it was a pretty serious surgery. So
I feel like it was strange that this build up
happened right before you were going to go.

Speaker 2 (33:59):
Through all of that.

Speaker 3 (34:00):
And I don't know, yeah, because I feel like it's act. Yeah,
I do too, because I couldn't get out there and
I'm still you know, I'm able to go to work,
you know, and it was just it was a life
change in surgery, that's for sure forever. And uh, but yeah,

(34:21):
I honestly wondered why too. And then then I've heard
other people on their talk about their encounters and stuff.
For just different things that they always seem like they
were people that had some kind of a disability or
this or that or whatever. It was, either physical or

(34:41):
mental or whatever. A lot of people was having encounters
and I don't know if there's anything to that.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
Yeah, it certainly seems supernatural. Now, these dreams that you had,
you want to elaborate on them, kind of what happened
in your dreams? You can either sum it up or
you can tell me pretty much everything that happened.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
How do you feel about that?

Speaker 3 (35:04):
Yeah, I don't know if I want to tell everything
in my dreams, but I don't know. It's messed up, man,
It's uh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:23):
So do you feel like they got into your dreams
or like maybe you've got like a supernatural message from
the other side or even God possibly.

Speaker 3 (35:31):
Well, yeah, I don't. I don't know what it was.
But I've had dreams about these ever since I was
a kid. You know, these things chasing me, and I
don't care how damn fast you are either any dreams,
you're on your own two feet. You can't outrun them.
And that'll coincide with what I've seen across the road
of just a few months back. But the speed of

(35:53):
these things are it's just hideous. Uh, the fastest thing
at the fastest thing I've ever seen in my life
cross the road. But anyway, in the dreams, it was
just I can't really make it out, but it's like
he's It's like, what what made it surreal to me

(36:17):
is I woke up and I could still feel it
on my back. It's like when it's whatever it was
touched me went plump through my body. When I woke up.
It was five minutes after and I could still feel
the tingling and burning sensation. And I even woke her
up and asked her to look if it was a
mark on my back. But these things had come to
me and uh told me pretty much what they are

(36:48):
and where they're from. And uh, and you know, and
I can't I can't say that. Uh. I know. When
I woke up, I felt a feeling and you know,
if everything's that way or there, but you know, it
was like they were They didn't like show me a video,
but it's just the way I felt was what was
it playing in my brain and the way my body felt.

(37:11):
But it was like it come up to me and
laid its hand on my back. And it was when
I woke up, I still had the same feeling as
in the dream, but it was like they were they
were from the Bible, and I don't. I mean, there's
more of it to it, but I just don't know
if I want to really get into all of it.

(37:33):
It's hard to talk about it. It's not it's kind
of embarrassing. People think you freaking crazy, but I don't care.
But these things were part of the Nephilum uh, and
they are here for an agenda, and I don't. I
really don't want to go anything past that. But yeah,
that's uh. They they've they revealed theirself to me. I

(38:00):
don't know what they are. I really don't, man, And uh,
but I can tell you what I've seen is not
no not no monkey. Excuse me, it's not no monkey
that's been passed over, that stayed hidden for all those years. No,
they're they're not. And all these people that's pushing that
agenda forward is full of shit. Excuse my language, but

(38:21):
they are. You listen to all these people that come
on these shows and given counters. I can read the
bs from the truth, but ninety nine point nine percent
of them all say they're human like like I did.
Are they are? They? Do they look like apes? Yes?
They they some that probably can too. I'm not saying

(38:44):
that they all don't. I'm just saying what I've seen
and listened to so many other people. They have too
many human characteristics. They're not built like us. They're they
don't have a neck. They're massive. The one I seen
thirty yards was hell. This thing was four feet wide,

(39:06):
at least eight nine feet tall, eight hundred to one
thousand pounds, and its arms were seven or eight feet long.
And imagine something like that chasing you off side of
a mountain and you can and you could hear it,
you could ye oh god, yeah. I just I don't

(39:26):
know what they are, man, I really don't. But I
know when you are, you and the ozar carryman come down.
I ain't going to give the place where we went
visiting to Daniel Boone. There was something parallel on us
at one time, on both sides, and it was obviously
and it ain't no deer. Deer don't follow people around

(39:48):
side of the hill. They don't do it. And when
you made that call, if you'll remember, everything was kind
of weird and creepy till then, but when you made
that call, it seemed like all hell broke loose until
we got out there and then storms were blowing in.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:04):
Absolutely, and that storm came out of nowhere. We were
definitely being paralleled. There was definitely some strange vocalizations in
that area, and we were just running out of time.
It was just strange how that storm just moved in
out of nowhere and we had a bucket and walk
miles back to the vehicle. But yeah, to sum up
the dream, basically, you were told that these things were

(40:24):
the Naphelom and God told us to get ready. I
mean that That's pretty much what it comes down to.
And that is strange that you had this super ultra
realistic dream and you woke up with the same feeling
like something had actually touched you.

Speaker 3 (40:40):
Well, I've yeah, there's only one another dream that was
more eye opening, and that and I don't want to
get into that, but that happened when my dad had
had a stroke and me and her were staying at
my mom and Dad's helping with my dad and my
mom and and uh, I don't know what the hell

(41:03):
that was that night, but when I woke up, I
found it from my toes to the hair on my head,
but that dream there. When I woke up, I was
still caught up in a dream, but I knew I
was awake, but I still had that feeling like it
was in the center of my back, right with my spine,
and I could feel it plumb through to my stomach

(41:25):
on the front side. And I was asking her to
have a red mark on my back and she said no,
so but yeah, the dream was altra real. Uh, I don't.
It was just a different dreams or dreams, you know,
some are different, I guess, but this thing here was
just like I was somewhere else, I know, you know,

(41:48):
and ever dreams people's were like. That was literally like
I was somewhere else. And then when I and I
hardly ever sleep on my stomach, but I was flat
on my stomach when that dream happened.

Speaker 1 (42:00):
Yeah, God gives us messages through dreams. And my brother
that was recently diagnosed with cancer, he kept saying that
I kept having a dream that this happened, that I
had cancer, and you know, he ended up having cancer,
and you know, it's definitely strange. I actually had a
dream one time I thought about my friend that I

(42:22):
graduated with We went to school from kindergarten all the
way through high school, and it was years after I graduated.
I haven't seen her. I haven't thought.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
About her at all.

Speaker 1 (42:31):
And just one night I had this really vivid dream
of her and it lasted hours, like she was just
standing there, and I woke up and I was like,
what the heck? Why do I have this dream of Brittany,
Like I haven't thought about her in years, And it
was just weird because it was a vivid, real dream,
Like it wasn't like your regular cartoonish dream where just
random things are happening. But I don't know, I just

(42:53):
kept thinking about it that morning and I opened up
my phone, opened up Facebook, and I was scrolling through
it and I saw a post from her that she
had cancer, and like it just hit me, like whoa,
Like this is weird, Like one of my good friends
got diagnosed with cancer and I just had like this
vivid dream of her for no reason. So I felt

(43:14):
like that was a message from God. But yeah, I
do feel like the supernatural will contact you in dreams
to warn you of an event to come or something
that's already happened.

Speaker 3 (43:23):
Yeah, I mean just like you said, you know how
some dreams when you have them, they're so cartoonish and
they bounced around. It's like, you know what in the
world You're trying to make sense, but how can that happen?
But no, this dream here was how do you explain
when you're having a dream and you wake up? And
what woke me up? Was this thing come up behind

(43:47):
me and touched my back. And when it did, I
feel it go plumb through me. But what was weird
about it? When I felt that, I woke up immediately,
But when it touched my back revealed everything and it
was like it was it didn't like play a picture
for me, but it was like I knew everything for

(44:09):
me waking up, or me it touched me to me
waking up, if that makes any sense. I knew the
message I was supposed to have got was instantaneously. Yeah,
and it's just stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (44:21):
It was definitely a message. And I don't feel like
it was a coincidence.

Speaker 3 (44:27):
No, And I've told multiple people, I mean, I never
asked for none of this, And I'll be honest with you,
and I'll be frankly audience with you. If if I
had to do it, over the encounter I had. It
was it was fifteen feet from me and my two uncles.

(44:49):
Excuse me, I can't stop coughing. You can just see
the silhouette have a fire in the lantern only shines
out so far. But that and there's the other down
I had when I was by myself. If I could
take those back and it never happened, I'd do it
in a heartbeat, because you don't never get over nothing

(45:09):
like that. And you realize, you know, you've always and
you know, when you're a kid, you know, and you
hear monster stories or watch horror movies and stuff like that,
all the stuff like this ain't real. Well, imagine being
a seven year old kid and realizing that everybody has
lied to you. But when you're twenty one, twenty two
years old and you're staring one face to face it,

(45:35):
I don't know. I just it missed me up for
my whole life. I'll never get over it.

Speaker 1 (45:41):
Yeah, I can only imagine. I'm sorry that that happened
to you, and I can definitely relate. I've had encounters
and it'll definitely change you. So you guys were camping,
you were with your family, and it got dark what
do you think triggered this thing coming down the mountain? Like,
what exactly happened.

Speaker 3 (46:00):
Magil Buddy, I can't tell you because my dad there
was so many of them. But back when I was young,
this was in the mid seventies, the whole month of July,
all my dad and my brothers. My dad was working,
but he'd go out, but mother and uncles. I don't
even know if they had jobs back at the Tabor,

(46:21):
if they was just river booms or whatever. But we'd
go way back in the middle of nowhere and down
in on the river and stay the whole month of July.
And we had been down there two weeks and uh,
nothing had happened. And then and I never will forget

(46:42):
talking to that. It was on a Friday night. Anyway,
my dad had an old red scout down on an
international scout and it was rough, mudholes everywhere. You had
to climb soude of the mountain to come out, and
it's just as bad coming back in. But they had
left going to get him. They'd made an arrangement, and
it was after dark and in the summertime, so you
would have been between ten or eleven and they hadn't

(47:04):
been gone for a little while, and me and my
uncle Lanny, which was my dad's youngest step brother. I
was just seven at the time, and he was probably
just roughly I would say, anywhere from fourteen to sixteen
year old. And we were goofing around and my uncle
Jim was there and I heard him say, boys, shut up,

(47:27):
I hear something. We wouldn't listen, and man, he jumped
all over us. He said, boys, I said, shut up.
And man, when he said that, you could hear it.
You could tell it was a pie. It was on
the ridge above us, on the side of the mountain,
and the only way I can describe it, it was
a It was a roar slash scream. It sounded you know,

(47:49):
if you've heard him on TV or been to the zoo,
how lying how powerful that is. But it was like that,
but not the sound. And you could hear some racket
between them. And then I could see him and he
hadn't grabbed his gun yet, and so with you know,
we're like walk that, and you know, down on the
river you hear all kinds of stuff. And then it

(48:10):
wasn't I can't remember time because I was just a kid,
but it wasn't very shortly after that heard another one,
but this time it come off running off side of
the hill and you could hear it had let sound
like an elephant running down the hill where somebody drove
a truck off side of a cliff. And it's tearing

(48:31):
up and why it's doing this. HiT's hollering and screaming
as it's it just sounds like hell coming at you.
And then it comes down about so far and just
stops and it goes dead quiet. And by that time
me and Uncle Lanney were over there by the fire
and we positioned at ourself with my uncle between the

(48:51):
fire and us. And my uncle's got that old mouser
and he's holding it, and I can I can still
remember him shaking sabad. It had a strap on it
you can put over your shoulder, and I can still
remember it. Or something was clinking, I don't know what
it was. And then all of a sudden it started
doing again. But before it started screaming, it was breaking limbs.

(49:14):
I mean it never throwed anything, but it was I
mean breaking big limbs, you know, like a tree's falling.
And it got clopped, and all of a sudden, here
it come this time hed it run right off into
camp fifteen feet away from us. And you know how
you can put a tarp up in your camp. This

(49:36):
thing when it come down, I remember that. I remember
it being off to where the tarpad had kind of
covered not covered it, but you know, casting a shadow
on You know how a lantern, a lot and a
fire only shines out so far. But the river, if
you're standing looking where we were, the river was to
the left, the road was in the middle, and we
were to the right, right beside the road. And it

(49:58):
wasn't a road where people travel. That thing run down
right next to the road, and there was a patch
of trees. And when it run down there to then
patch of patch of trees, Miguel, there was not just
three or four of them moving, there were eight to
ten trees. Hit looked like a tornado was in them.
They wouldn't quivering or swaying. These things were looked like that.

(50:20):
There was like a tornado sit in the middle of
I mean they were moving eight, ten, twelve feet in
all directions. It was the ungodless looking thing I've ever
seen in alive. And the limbs falling out, fresh leaves
falling off of it, and after that it goes deathly
quiet again. And I, you know, and me and my

(50:42):
uncle Lanny were feeding off my uncle Jim. If you've
ever seen somebody terrified, you imagine being a kid looking
at it. To you was a grown man, and my
uncle Jim had probably just been in his early twenties,
and me looking at him, and I I just couldn't
believe that in that man's face. And then all of

(51:02):
a sudden caught movement and that thing had stepped right
up and you could see the silhouette of it. Could
not make out no facial features, but that thing was
just standing there. And all this had been going on,
and it took about forty five minutes to an hour
for them to get off the river back to the
top of the mountain to pick up my dad, and
then that long to come back. And they had been gone.

(51:25):
We me and my uncles had talked through the years, God,
every time was around each other, we talked about what happened,
and my uncle Jim said he estimated they had been
gone no more than thirty or forty five minutes. Well,
they didn't even have time to get to the top
of the hill and back down. So all this took
on for at least an hour of this going on,

(51:47):
and when that thing come forward to show itself, there
was another one to the left. But let me back
up before that, all that was going on. When that
thing come running off the second time, Uncle was hauling.
We's climbing his back. He's haulering. Boys, get off, I'm
going to have to shoot. Go in the tent. I
remember running into the tent watching him just go, you know,

(52:09):
scan from about ten o'clock to two o'clock with that rifle,
you know, because he was just trying to follow the
sound of me and Uncle Lannie's on her hands and
Tee's looking out of the tent, and we hear something
coming up behind us and he put his hand on
Uncle Lanney put his hand on my back. He said,
don't move, and you could hear it was by a pedal.
Whatever this was sneaking in. But this thing that was

(52:31):
over closest to us by the road was keeping my
uncle occupied while this was coming up. He never heard
what we heard in the tent. And finally when it
snapped on a twig, pretty i'd say, no more than
ten fifteen feet behind us in the tent, we come
ripping out there about knock him down. Man, he's maddering
hell at that point because he's scared to death. You know.

(52:53):
We're trying to climbing and me he can't shoot. And
about that time, the one behind the tent screamed and
he swung that gun around and then it was gone.
And then the other one beside the road. And I'm talking,
if you take it, put us in the center and
you go ten o'clock to two o'clock. Of these distances

(53:13):
between like going to the left and going to the right,
are no more than twenty five yards away. And when
these things were screaming in the hauling, I remember covering
my ears as a kid, and I was, you know,
just thinking it was a it was a true mountain nightmare.
I'd left that part out. But when he turned back

(53:35):
around and focused to the one, that's what it was.
The one that come into sight was the one that
after the second one acknowledged its presence when it screamed.
And they went back and forth or three times, and
then the one come forwards, how it was, and my
uncle dropped his gun when that thing stepped forward, and

(53:56):
you could hear thinking back on it and stuff we
talked about. You could hear the other one kind of
trying to position itself around toward that one. But that
old scalp my dad had was really loud. And about
that time the lights hit the treetops. We were kind
of in a little bitty saddle and there was a
no I have sixty seventy yards behind us. It kind

(54:16):
of topped off and leveled off on the river bank
right by right by us, and that saying when them
lights hit that, that's when the thing in front of us,
next to the road, it tore off across the road.
My uncle and all of them seen it. They seen
it cross the road and it hit the river. And
when it hit the river, it sat like a car

(54:37):
fell out of the sky. And the one that had
worked its way around towards the first one that come off,
excuse me, it took off running up. You could hear
it running up like parallel on the road, running up there,
just breaking crap all the pieces and man, my dad,
now pull in there. God, I'm screaming and crying. We

(54:58):
all three were, I mean, and I remember still this day,
them flashlights them looking around. You can see where the
leaves had been shook off those trees and small branches.
They went over next to the river and there was
an actual track where that thing had stepped at the
edge of the river bank had slid down only one track
and it was huge, but it was a step where

(55:19):
it slid down to the river and over to the
left of that probably twenty yards was I think two
or three canoes tied up to the bank. So when
they had topped the hill and spook it, but we
never heard the scout coming was what we could never
figure out the whole time, because when they left, you

(55:39):
could hear them go for I don't know, ten minutes,
five ten minutes, you could just hear it, you know,
echoing up the river valley. But no, that that's when
it all started for me.

Speaker 1 (55:55):
Yeah, that's terrifying. I mean I've had a lot of
encounters and experiences, but you you've had some really and
tons encounters, and I can only imagine what you went
through and how you guys felt, like, did you guys
stay the night after that or did you guys leave?

Speaker 3 (56:11):
No, we stayed, dang, yeah, and stayed for the following
two more weeks. And and see, this was what was
crazy finished staying. Like I said, we'd been there or
two weeks and ended up staying two weeks. I had
to come out because I got in the bad patch
of pulls and I mean got up my eyes, my mouth,

(56:32):
and I went back down and stayed. But the reason is,
and didn't know this. Two years later my dad and
then were used to it. And my uncle's I mean, Miguel,
I mean I need to I could write a book
of people, don't. I mean, you don't even know all

(56:53):
the stuff that happened to my dad real briefly, it
was my dad and his neighbors and three or four
of the boys, and he had two boys now, went
out on the river coon hunting started storming, and they
found no abandoned house. Something got in a fight with
the coon dogs. The coon dogs hit the river going
back across toward where they lived, and whatever it was

(57:14):
was roaring and screaming, and there was no bear in
there at that time. And this old mining house, my
dad and his two or three brothers, and the neighbor
had his two boys there, and my grandpa took them
all upstairs and they said at the top of the steps,
and Dad said that he can remember whatever it was

(57:36):
would come inside the house. It never would vocalize inside
the house, but it was tearing it all to hell
and would leave. And it done it all night long,
and they stayed there till daybreak. And he can remember
my dad and that guy talking them old timers, and
the only thing they had was a car by lot
for a mining light, you know what I'm talking about,

(57:57):
And god, dim things ain't much brighter than a candle.
But he could hear, he said, you know, for dad
passed away. They talked about it so many times that
they could hear the over conversation and them talking of
whatever it is, we can't let it get to the boys.
And both of them sit on top of them steps
all night long till the daybreak, and it's just it's

(58:21):
just that and too many more. I mean, hell, I
could tell this stuff for two days straight.

Speaker 1 (58:28):
Yeah, it sounds like you have a lot of experiences,
and we definitely have to get back together and do
more research, hang out and talk about everything else that
you've experienced.

Speaker 2 (58:39):
And yeah, that's spooky.

Speaker 1 (58:41):
I mean, I can't imagine what what you guys went through,
especially your family, and you know, this was normal to
them and eventually it became normal to you.

Speaker 3 (58:51):
Okay, yeah, yeah. What was crazy is I heard some
stories until I started coming hour would open up about
it and maybe like, oh yeah, well yeah, this has
happened to us, and that you know, they just kip
it to their stiff. You learned how to do that,
and that's what I'm saying. Growing up, I just thought
this was normal because I listened to my dad and

(59:13):
allfice brothers till their encounters, and I thought, hell, everybody
lived a life like this. I don't know, Like I said,
I didn't ask for none of it.

Speaker 1 (59:25):
Maybe it's like a generational type of thing, like you
hear about generation and curses. But like, I don't know,
it seems like it's in your blood man, Like these
things are attracted to you and your family, and obviously
they came back because you've had so much happen. We
went down there and did research and the activity continued.

(59:45):
You also told me about this encounter, this road crossing.
Can you tell me more about that?

Speaker 3 (59:54):
Yeah, uh, all right, this is right. This is right
after the vocalizations. The vocalizations I sent you would have
been that had have probably been right around the first
week or two of January, because I have my surgery

(01:00:16):
January the twenty nine, so it was a week before
I had my surgery, just a couple of weeks after
I had all these vocalizations. I'm driving a not four
miles south of me. I'm going down through there and
there's a vehicle coming at me. I'm in the vehicle,
are no more than two hundred yards apart, and there's

(01:00:38):
a long sweeping turn. But coming from the right side
of the road up out of a ravine was a
huge black, just blur that went across the road, and
it was closer to the truck that was coming toward
me than I was it. But when it crossed the road,
we were probably a hundred to one hundred and fifty

(01:01:00):
yards apart. But this thing was at the time all
like I told you earlier, I didn't know. You know,
I don't know if everybody does it, but sometimes you'll
have those floaters in your eyes when you first wake
up or whatever. But when it happens so fast, that's
what I thought, And I hit my brakes in the
truck as I passed it. He's on the brakes, and

(01:01:21):
then I'm realizing my my brain's catching up with my thoughts.
No this thing. I could see it running, but it
was huge, and the speed of it was I don't know, man,
it was paranormal fast. If anybody's ever seen those videos

(01:01:42):
of where people catch these ghosts and stuff, how fast
they move, that's this thing was like that, and even
faster because it crossed the of the pull off lane,
my lane, and then a fast lane and a slow
lane going north, and then the pullover lane and the
guardrail and that thing come across matter of maybe a
second and a half. I know it wasn't two seconds,

(01:02:05):
but where it had went across the guardrail, that's a
cliff line. So where did this thing go? But I
know I wouldn't the only want to see it, because
the other truck hit their brakes too, and I remember
pulling over and like hitting the rouble strips. They was
on their breaks and then they let off, So I
don't know what the hell that was. It was upright,

(01:02:27):
and it was it was just like a huge shadow
person top. Like I said, that truck was closer to
it than I was. I was probably eighty yards from it,
and he would have probably been seventy yards from it.

(01:02:48):
Just a little bit closer than me, maybe something like that.
But it happened so fast, it just it made you
wonder if you've really seen something. But I know what
it was. I just I couldn't get my brain to
wrap around it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:03:06):
Absolutely, So they probably got a really good look at it.
And it seems like this thing crossed the highway intentionally,
like it wanted you to see it.

Speaker 3 (01:03:15):
Well, you said it, not me, And that's exactly what
I thought, Miguel. When I went down through, I thought,
hell of all the people that travel this road going
north and Southwark, and this thing done it to me.
And just you know, a week a little over a
week later than from all the vocalizations I mean, and
then after I have my surgery and stuff, I go

(01:03:37):
call blasting and that's when all the orbs and stuff happened.
So they're still here, and I don't understand. I know
they're here, and where your other guest had his encounter.
Oh that's just well, I really don't. I can be
there very very shortly, is all I'm going to say.

Speaker 1 (01:03:56):
As the crow flies and man, yeah, it's definitely strange
because you were pouring out corn and that trail camera
caught your reaction when you heard those vocalizations, and you
even spoke to the neighbors nearby, asked them if they
heard anything strange, What do they tell you?

Speaker 3 (01:04:15):
Yes? I actually I drove around the lake and after
and then when when that happened, This was a week
after they would They had come a good snow and
they were six or eight inches on and it took
it takes me forty five minutes to drive around. And
we're driving around through there, and I see this man
and woman and two young teenage children, a boy and

(01:04:36):
a girl, and so I pulled up talking to him
and stuff, and I said, I know you all gonna
think I'm crazy, I said, but I'm going to ask
you a question. I said, a little over a week ago.
I gave him the date and time of when it happened.
I said, did you all hear anything screaming over here?

(01:04:59):
I said, because I've got it on audio. And what
was so funny about it wasn't really funny, but it
was as soon as I said that, and it left
my lips. Those kids and the parents were looking at
each other, back and forth, back and forth. And then
the guy said, well, yeah, actually my boy and girl
was playing outside in the snow, and this was going

(01:05:22):
and they come in and running inside telling her mom,
and they all four heard it. They said, well, what
was that? And and so I just I just said, well,
I know what it was. I said, you all don't
think I'm crazy. And so I told him it's bigfoot.
I said, I've heard these things before. I said, people
think you're crazy when you talk about this stuff. So

(01:05:45):
I kept talking, going on and on, and then right
before we left, the guy said, you know what, He
said that that kind of makes sense because right across
from me as a boat ramp on the other side
of the laye. He said, just last year, and he
said the past few summers. He said, we've lived around

(01:06:06):
here four or five years. He said, every summer we'll
go down or night fish. He said that there's vocalizations
rocks being thrown into water, and he said it runs
a mouth there at nighttime. He said he won't go back,
but he said last summer. And after it happened, he
waited till right in the middle of the day, and
he walked around this little footpath. He said, probably about

(01:06:28):
a half a mile or so, maybe a little further around,
and he said that he walked up on what I
call a kill sot. He said, there was bones everywhere,
all in one spot. And it wasn't cattle or nothing
like Eddie said, you could tell it was deer. What
he has to may to be either dogs or coyodies

(01:06:49):
and all that he said that I mean, he said
it was just bones everywhere. And I told him, I said,
that's a kill sot. You know, bear don't draw their
same prey or cowdies down to the same spot every time.
And it's been documented that these bigfoot sasquatch supposedly do this.

(01:07:10):
That's what people find all the time, just bones in
one area. And then that was in January, right before
having surgery. So when I go up here call blasting
oh month and a half ago, that's that's exactly where
I got my vocals from. Because when I went up here,
I had the guys story in the back of my head,

(01:07:31):
and I know the way the land lays around here,
and that's exactly where I was pointing in blasting to
and that's exactly where I got the call responses from.

Speaker 2 (01:07:40):
Yeah, that's wild.

Speaker 1 (01:07:42):
And this area where you heard the vocalizations is this
close to where you and your family were camping years
ago when this thing came down the mountain.

Speaker 3 (01:07:51):
No.

Speaker 1 (01:07:53):
Yeah, so you've had activity all throughout like Kentucky, like
oh yeah, the Daniel Boon National Forest and just a
lot of experiences and encounters when you're camping or white
tail hunting. It just seems like they're attracted to you,
like you get in there, you hunt or whatever, like
when you get engaged with the outdoors, like they'll come out,

(01:08:15):
not every time, but throughout your life.

Speaker 3 (01:08:18):
No, and that's what you know. People think, oh, well, yeah,
he's lying it And it don't happen all the time.
It's random and you never know. You never know when
it's going to happen. But I know I put one
thing together and uh ever, every time ever, and I
can think about it, every single time that I have

(01:08:41):
had an encounter, there was a water source no less
than a half a mile away ever one.

Speaker 1 (01:08:52):
Yeah, so they stick close to the water. It seems
like they're physical creatures they're out there, but also there's
something supernatural behind them as far as like tagging you.
You know you're marked. They follow you around. You see
these orbs, strange things that are taking place either inside
your house or I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:09:12):
Know, just I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:09:13):
I feel like it's all connected, but at the same time,
I don't really know. But I've seen similar things myself,
so I feel like it is. But you know, I
can't convince people of that until they see it themselves,
and they'll be like, dang, Jimmy and Miguel were right.

Speaker 3 (01:09:29):
Yeah, And I'm not going to lie to you, Mgel.
When I heard people's encounters or stories or whatever you
want to call them about orbs and Bigfoot, and I've
heard some outlandish ones and I call them b is
from the get go. But then you could to me,
I don't know, if you've really had an encounter, you
could tell when people are telling the truth. But I

(01:09:51):
thought bigfoot and an orb, yell, okay whatever, No, sir, buddy,
I got proved wrong. If anybody's got a story, you know,
I like listening to just to just to see because
there's more than we realized. Because I got proved wrong
about the sin and an orb and then one of

(01:10:11):
these things afterwards. Because I can, I mean I can.
I can tee the color of its hair. I've never
seen its face. It was a side of profile of
it moving away and it wasn't as big as the
first or second one I had, but it was still
just as big. But the the hair wasn't red, but
it was a brownish red tint. Not liking the rangu

(01:10:32):
and tain color, but close, but I mean just huge.
I'm not And you know when people talk about having
these encounters, they try to estimate the weigh that three
or four hundred pounds. Hell know, what I seen, buddy,
was eight hundred to one thousand pounds. Either they didn't
see something like I seen, or they seen a juvenile
because like this one after the ORB, I mean, it

(01:10:56):
was wasn't as big, but it's still been anywhere from
six seven pound.

Speaker 1 (01:11:03):
Yeah, that thing is a beast. Yeah that's terrifying. And
I can definitely relate. After I had my encounters, I
felt like I could sniff people out, like, oh, this
person's full of it, or this person's telling the truth
because it's an intense encounter and he's describing details. But
I'll be honest, like when I used to hear people
talk about the cloaking, and this is even after I
had my encounters, I'd be like, yeah, right, b us,

(01:11:26):
and one big thing that would turn me off about
that was like the super super blurry photos that people
would show the paradolia and they'd like circle red. I'm like,
I don't know about that. But then I had experiences
out in the woods where something invisible, like a big
bipedal invisible being is walking in the woods. It just
sound it just sounded like a giant lumberjack, like someone

(01:11:47):
who's like seven or eight foot tall walking on two feet.
And I mean this is in the middle of the day,
during the wintertime, and you could hear paralleling us. And
this happened with several differ from people at several different areas,
and it's like, well, I guess there is truth behind
the cloaking and I got proved wrong.

Speaker 3 (01:12:06):
Yes, uh yeah, And I'm telling you, I don't know
about you, but there's nothing there's no such animal down
here that can do that and it be just a
normal flesh and blood. There's more to these things.

Speaker 1 (01:12:20):
Yeah, you had an experience at the land between the
Lakes when you were bow hunting with a friend, and
you said you experienced the same thing, like something by
petal was walking through the woods. You could even see
the leaves being flipped up into the air as it
was walking.

Speaker 3 (01:12:34):
Yeah that as soon as you said that, that made
my hair stand on my arms. And I was by myself,
and I mean that that was messed up, buddy, I
mean that was that that that was messed up. I
could tell when it left the road. There was no
road to come up there, and there's no settlement that
had been out there, and I kept looking for somebody.

(01:12:56):
I thought somebody's walking up on me. And you know, hell,
three days in row and then I finally told one
of my buddies to go back, and he's like, yeah,
I ain't killed nobody anyway, I'll go with you. Yeah,
he liked to lost his mind. Yeah. Uh, I think
we covered that on the first interview, didn't we.

Speaker 2 (01:13:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:13:16):
Absolutely, And man, it's just a strange thing. There's a
lot of things that are attached to the Sasquatch, and
it's not just this unknown primate that lives out in
the woods, like you're dealing with a whole other animal,
a whole other being, a hominid like this is definitely supernatural,
and I do I feel like the time is ending

(01:13:39):
or building up towards something. Yeah, people have been seeing
this stuff before, the Native Americans, but like something huge
is building up, like this is not normal, and I
do feel like these things are, if not the neph One,
like something that was created in those days.

Speaker 2 (01:13:55):
And I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:13:57):
Somebody on a podcast mentioned it the other day, like
when you experience this activity, it just feels ancient, like
there's something ancient about it. And I agree, like there's
definitely like this ancient feeling when you're experiencing this activity
or when you see them face to face, it's like
this is way out of the norm.

Speaker 3 (01:14:19):
Yeah. Like I said, man, I can't wrap my head
around it. I didn't ask to see it, and I've
learned how to deal with it. And I swear every
time I want to dabble a little bit, it just
pops up right in my face and I'm like, okay, Bud,
you need to back off, you know what I mean?
And uh, yeah, I can't explain it. I'd like to

(01:14:40):
take you just a physical world.

Speaker 2 (01:14:42):
Oh yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:14:44):
It seems like there's other dimensions here, portals, gateways, whatever
you want to call it. I would like to take
you out to the killing fields here in Missouri and
camp out and see if we experience something. Because you
got sasquatch in your blood, just like me.

Speaker 2 (01:14:59):
So I don't I know.

Speaker 1 (01:15:00):
I feel like if we were together something would happen.

Speaker 3 (01:15:05):
Well, I promise you something will pop off because of
either when she was time she was with me, or
my nephews. The same nephew. Now, they've been several encounters.
He hasn't seen one or nothing like that, but they've
been a bunch of crazy stuff goes on. It scares

(01:15:28):
him to death. And he's in his late twenties and
he just you know, has heard everybody in my family,
whether it be big foot or paranormal. You know. They
even by oldest daughter. She's terrified. I try to get
her to go, but she says, they ain't no way,
I'm going with you, dad, But it I don't know, man.

Speaker 1 (01:15:53):
I hear a lot of people say I just want
to see one so bad. Like then they get out
there and they look. But I'm thinking, in the back
of my mind, I'm like, I don't know if you
want that. There's a lot of weight on my shoulders,
and I know you've carried this weight as well, and
it's just like it's not something that you want.

Speaker 2 (01:16:07):
To deal with.

Speaker 3 (01:16:09):
No, the not the two that I had face to face.
Oh yeah, if I could have seen one going through
the woods or strolling across the field or running across
Uh yeah. The second one. When I seen it, it
come out from behind the tree and looked at me
so confused. It's on our first thing video we've done.

(01:16:33):
It was so confused. And I was uphill. It's off
the back side of the mountain. I was uphill, like
on a two to one slope, only thirty yards away.
And I mean I could see the wrinkles this thing's face.
I could see everything, but I could not take my
eyes off of it. But after a thing had reached
to the ground with this left han, it took never
took its right off the thing. But when it's stood

(01:16:54):
back up, excuse me, when it's face melted. And when
I mean melted, I mean when from a confused look
to where just all the life out of it's face
just dropped. And then when it started morphing back and
one of me. Morphing is just changing shape, and it
starts showing its teeth, and I could see its chest

(01:17:16):
going in and out, and it was working itself up.
I mean that that messed with me for years. Buddy,
the knightmares did. And then I took off trying to
dig my way to the top of the hill, in
which I did come off the backside, and this thing
come after me. Hell man, you don't want to encounter

(01:17:39):
like that.

Speaker 1 (01:17:41):
Yeah, no, that is terrifying. I've had them parallel me,
but I haven't had an intense encounter like that. I
had one charge through the woods at me, but I
was standing on my back porch of my house. I
did a big foot call in this thing tore through
the woods.

Speaker 2 (01:17:57):
I mean it was.

Speaker 1 (01:17:58):
Snapping treesches, and it was zigzagging its way towards me,
and it sounded like a bulldozer was moving through the woods.
And it just stopped right at the edge of the
woodline and everything got quiet.

Speaker 2 (01:18:08):
I was like, holy shit, what is that?

Speaker 3 (01:18:11):
Yep, you know when I'm talking about Then, until somebody's
heard one of these run through the woods, you can't
explain it. Oh yeah, mine tries to rationalize, you know,
it was some kind of animal. But you know, and
if you've hunted in the woods a lot like I have,
you have you know what things sound like. Even deer runoff,

(01:18:31):
even when bears run off, I know what they sound like,
but when you hear one of these running you you
can't figure it out. You know, there's something something just
not right.

Speaker 2 (01:18:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:18:43):
Absolutely, And I was happy to see you get back
out in the woods when you show me that photo.

Speaker 2 (01:18:47):
Of that big buck.

Speaker 1 (01:18:48):
I was like, all right, Jimmy's back out there. So
that's good. You haven't been scared to go back in
the woods. Some people never step foot in the woods ever. Again,
they never go hunting or camping, and they just can't
do it. And I'm sure it does mess with you.
It messes with me too, like you almost lose like
the passion to hunt.

Speaker 3 (01:19:08):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right McGill. And like I said,
I stayed away from those areas for fifteen twenty years,
and I went back up there and got more what
I bargained for. Scott Carpenter that it was from just

(01:19:29):
right down Tennessee there close to where working Maryville. He
was a great guy and he he you know, died
of a brain tumor a brain aneurysm or something. I
can't remember, but he said they were from the Nephlemon
and they're real.

Speaker 2 (01:19:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:19:53):
They It seems like every day that they keep figuring
out that stuff that was in the Bible Israel. Well,
if if that's the truth, then why can't they comprehend
You know that these things are real. It talks about them.

Speaker 1 (01:20:08):
Yeah, And that's how it was when Jesus was alive.
He would do all these miracles right in front of people,
and even high status people, and it's just like they
couldn't accept it, they couldn't believe it. And that's what's
happening today with these bigfoot encounters. People are seeing these things,
they're telling others and they're just being dismissed, like, oh,
it must be a bear or you're seeing things. These

(01:20:30):
things don't exist, and it's like the build up is
happening and people are either looking the other way or
they're embracing it.

Speaker 3 (01:20:39):
Yeah, exactly what I've what I've encountered and witnessed and
stuff is has been horrifying. But they would They would
be one thing that would keep me out of the
woods for the rest of my life. And that would
be if I ever had a dog man experience of
that would be the end of it for me. I
couldn't deal with that.

Speaker 2 (01:21:00):
Yeah, I told myself, I see one, I'm done.

Speaker 3 (01:21:04):
Uh Yeah, And I know we can sit and laugh
about it. And and I mean I've heard several people
Martin Groves and was one of the most terrill that
was on the uh the confessionals with Tony Merkel. Now
that one right there was in the Daniel Boone not

(01:21:26):
no more than an hour's drive from here, now that
right there? Uh and that yeah, let's see, Kyle was
that boy's name.

Speaker 2 (01:21:37):
They are out.

Speaker 1 (01:21:39):
I'm not sure if I have, but I feel like
when we did that investigation in the Daniel Boone National Forest,
the vocalizations that we heard were definitely encrypted. But like
the first thought that came into my mind was canine.
Like it sounded canine.

Speaker 3 (01:21:54):
Yeah it uh, I mean because I know you were uh,
we were being parallel al on both sides. And I
don't know how far we went down in there, but
it was a long ways and uh, and somehow we
got turned around and I don't know, I still ain't
figured that out. But when you made that call, I mean,

(01:22:19):
it was immediately a response. And then all the way
back we were hearing responses and people and I know
you have you can distinguish the real owl from when
something's trying to imitate an owl m and that was
the same way, and that not behind the house here

(01:22:39):
when there was six of them. And you know something,
I just put two and two together. I counted six times,
and them things hollering down that ridge And that's how
many orbs I seen out here across the road.

Speaker 1 (01:22:53):
Yeah, that is strange. Those vocalizations too that we heard.
They came from the river and it was the same
way later on you heard these things by the river
when you when you were hearing these vocalizations, I remember
you telling me that what I got on video does
not do it justice, like it was completely different in person.

(01:23:14):
What do you think they were saying? What were they communicating?

Speaker 3 (01:23:17):
I don't know, but I tell you what in still
I can, I can go back when we was hearing them,
but I swear, Miguel, it sounded like it was just
a part out of Jurassic Park. They were two tone
pitches that thing would scream out, but it was dual
tone pitches you could hear. You could hear one tone

(01:23:40):
start out, then you could hear the second. When come
in that way, and what was on the recording, it
was not what we heard in real life. And I
couldn't figure that out. It was a dual tone pitch
started out as one, and I mean it just it
sounded like something out of the movie. And I mean

(01:24:01):
it just up that canyon at River.

Speaker 1 (01:24:04):
Canyon, m Yeah, and it's sounding prehistoric. Like I remember
when we were at the Airbnb cabin, Joe or the
Ozark carry man, he was showing you or telling you
about the Saint Louis County, Minnesota cause and you ended
up recording something that is very similar. And this thing
sounds like an elephant, a lion, and a freaking dinosaur

(01:24:25):
all in one.

Speaker 3 (01:24:27):
Yeah. Like I said, I've got the auditor two videos
of it to prove it, and my trill camera took
the exact time stamp. As soon as the bag of
corn hits the ground, I hear something in front of
me and it's got me. I've got I've got my knife,
pulled my knife out in front of me. But I

(01:24:47):
raised my head up and I'm looking straight ahead, and
I thought that was weird. I mean it was like
they was they was saying, here's the food or I
don't know, I don't know. Yeah, I mean it's definitely
strange pictures and video.

Speaker 1 (01:25:06):
Yeah, I mean it's strange. As soon as you start
pouring out corn right there at the trail camera where
you've gotten the orbs, the shadow person or possibly a sasquatch,
they vocalized. I feel like they were directing it towards you,
or communicating with one on one another, like let's triangulate
around this guy. I don't know, like something was getting
ready to happen. I guarantee you if you camp there

(01:25:27):
that night, they would have came in.

Speaker 3 (01:25:30):
Uh yeah, I don't know about that. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:25:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:25:37):
Well the cool thing is, well, I don't know if
it's cool, but you got access to where you heard
those vocalizations, so you can go in there and check
it out. It's definitely strange that they found a kill site,
and I interviewed a guy from Colorado who found the
same thing. I mean there was like elk and ducks
and all kinds of like skeletons left behind, and it

(01:25:59):
was a huge till site.

Speaker 3 (01:26:03):
Yeah, and Miguel, you could tell he was hesitant of
saying anything until I said, well I know what they are.
I said, You're gonna think I'm crazy, I said, but
I don't care. I've seen him, I've heard him. I said,
it's bigfoot sasquatch. You you could see his brain was
like putting two and two together. Kept talking. He said, well,

(01:26:24):
I wasn't going to say that. And he said, but
I'll tell you. He said, for the last three or
four years, every summer when we go down our fish
and we get run out of there from vocalizations and
rock being thrown in the lake, and then he goes
around there and he said, and I was getting ready leave.
He said, well, I'll tell you one more thing. He said,
there's a foot trail and he said, I'll show you

(01:26:46):
how to get there. Tell you actually is what he said.
And he said it's around there, about a half a
mile or so, he said. And I walked up and
he said. It wasn't on the trail, he said, was
off the trail, not far off the trail. And he
said there was bones and he said, I mean hundreds
of bones. I said, do you want He said yeah,

(01:27:07):
he said, not like I'm not saying like we're a
deer to a died. He said, I mean there was
hundreds of bones just scattered out, but they were in
one spot.

Speaker 1 (01:27:18):
And these things were munching on critters and it kind
of reminds me of like when people eat frog legs
or lobster, like all the leftovers that you know that
are left after you eat. It's like these things are
doing that with deer and turkeys and all kinds of critters.

Speaker 3 (01:27:35):
And uh, I don't know if you remember, but when
I got back after feeding a deer, it was like
if I didn't, if I wasn't up for averature three
days feeding him, you would just hear crazy stuff at
night around here? Do you think the all calls? Oh,
go ahead, sorry, yeah, the all calls at night. We
was sitting here and she said, tell me you hear that?

(01:27:57):
I said, yeah, what was it? She said, that's alcohols.
She said turn the TV down. And I mean they
were in front of the house, behind the house, and
when I go outtare. As soon as I went out
the back door, the first one on the very part
of the ridge sounded off. It was like a who
and then it went from back when all the way

(01:28:20):
down I was counting them, and then the last one hollered.
I was looking straight ahead and it's exactly where I
feed the deer, And it was like, are these things
telling me that? Now I know this sounds stupid. But
I've got the pictures and I've sent them to you
of them deer there with multiple multiple orbs around them.

(01:28:43):
Are these are these things coming in there eating that
corn too?

Speaker 1 (01:28:47):
I think it's possible, That's what I was getting ready
to say. Do you think like somehow you created like
a gifting situation and when you feed them they react,
and when you also don't feed them, it kind of
ticks them off. And maybe that shadow being, if it's
a sasquatch or a shadow person, maybe they're cloaking and
coming in and grabbing the food and the cameras and
picking it up.

Speaker 2 (01:29:07):
But I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:29:07):
That's just the wild theory of mine. Who knows, but
oh man, it's freaky.

Speaker 3 (01:29:14):
Well if you remember of all of the and maybe
when you do this you can puss up some of
the stuff and if you need me to rescind them,
my can. But uh, there's one picture when I was
having all the orbs, and if you remember, there's one
like somebody turned on a flashlight and you can see
right there there's nobody there with the flashlight. Explain that. Yeah,

(01:29:39):
I don't know, it's got the deer lit up.

Speaker 1 (01:29:42):
Yeah, I noticed that and it's a good quality photo too.
I mean, you got some awesome fines from the rock
stacks that you've taken photos of that shadow being the orbs,
like this is high quality stuff. Even that photo with
your granddaughter. You can see that hand like that's that's spooky.

(01:30:03):
I mean, everything that you've sent me, it's like, Okay,
there's a lot more going on here, that's for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:30:09):
Yeah, it's not. I got more than just if you
call it a story, you know what I'm saying. No, man,
I want to accounts with you and dude some research.
I'd like to get to meet David and everything, because
so many things that happened to him, you know, I
can sure relate to with the rocks and the bluff

(01:30:32):
charging and so can you. Just to see if I
don't know, just to see if if if it is me,
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:30:43):
I think you'll find out some really interesting things when
you come out there and sit around the fire and
talk to us, because he's had a lot of stuff
that he hasn't told on the documentaries, and there are
similar things that you've told me that you haven't told
on the documentaries. So I think we would definitely be
able to relate and definitely be able to experience some
activity out there. And like I said, it seems like

(01:31:06):
we've been marked and maybe if we get together will
experience some activity. And it seems to be that way.

Speaker 3 (01:31:13):
Yeah, that's the truth, buddy, I'm telling you. I don't
know if it's where it's the aura that people it's
a vibration. But I mean, I could honestly write a
book and the paranormal stuff is crazier than the encounters

(01:31:38):
with sasquatch.

Speaker 2 (01:31:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:31:40):
Absolutely, I think you should write some books, and I
think they would be very beneficial to the research that
people are trying to seek out. They need to learn
more about these things. And what you encountered was definitely
real and it was definitely spooky. That one that you
saw when you were rattling the deer antlers and you

(01:32:01):
mentioned that it was wrinkly looking. Did it look like
an old Native American, like an elder, like how leathery
and wrinkly like their skin is?

Speaker 3 (01:32:10):
Oh? Yeah, it was. It was more of the browridge
was it was so I just I remember when it
first came out, I was just I was like in
my brain, my brain had completely shut down and looking
back on it now, well, when it come out of
the first thing it was in my mind, it's just

(01:32:30):
my own personal faults and fears. Was it was demonic,
it was the devil, but it was just had a
Neanderthal look. The browridge was so prominent. I could just
you know, close my eyes and slow myself down and
see it. See the wrinkles the eyes I said, had
I could see wats around the very outer edges, but

(01:32:52):
the center of it, well, you know when you kill
a deer, how their glass looks like a mirrored silvery Look,
that's what the reflection was like. It was given off
but didn't have a snout, didn't have a conical head.
It had a big, prominent jawnline, big ol'd white, blocky teeth,
just massive in the traps they looked like logs, and

(01:33:15):
the shoulders looked like bowling balls. But the arms, honestly,
besides its face when it changed and melted, really the honestly,
the most freakish thing about it was how big the arms,
how long the arms were, and how big the and
long the hands and fingers were. I mean, it was

(01:33:39):
not merrish, hideous, just.

Speaker 2 (01:33:45):
It was an abomination.

Speaker 3 (01:33:48):
Exactly that's yeah, I couldn't have said it any better.

Speaker 1 (01:33:51):
Were the fingers like as big as round as like
brought worst like huge?

Speaker 3 (01:33:57):
Yeah? Yeah, maybe not as fat as that, but if
they were seven or eight inches long, I ain't even
counting the palm. I'm talking just the fingers. This thing
could palm of watermelon. Made an example before it could
have said it's palm on the very tip top of
my head, and its fingers would have been below my chin,

(01:34:19):
and the head way bigger in the basketball. I don't
even think you could have put its headify gallon bucket.

Speaker 2 (01:34:26):
Yeah. Their heads are like the size of bison.

Speaker 3 (01:34:29):
Yeah, yes, and you tell me that that something that
most of them I won't mention no names, but most
of them mentioned that they're just a prime aate that
ain't been discovered. That's a bunch of hogwars. I don't
believe that.

Speaker 1 (01:34:48):
Yeah, And how do you feel like, Like, what does
it make you feel like when you talk to researchers
and they're like, I just want to hear about bigfoot.
I don't care about any of the other stuff, like
orbs or anything else. Like all these intense apearances that
you've had along with it, Like, what do you think
about that? Do you feel like they're not doing the
research justice or what?

Speaker 3 (01:35:08):
Yeah, they only hear what they want to hear. Now,
I would never shoot anybody down before when I heard
their encounters. And I'll be honest, like I said, when
even I heard the Native Americans, they were the ones
that really put the Orbs and the Bigfoot together. If
they say, if you've seen bolls of lots in the
woods at night, get out and you know. And I

(01:35:31):
never did this discount the Indians because I believe what
they say. They've been here longer than we have. But
some of them I heard, I was like, man, are
you talking about out there? They really are? But no, nope,
I know what I've seen now. And I don't never
judge nobody else's encounters just because nerves don't match mine.
Don't believe they're not telling the truth.

Speaker 1 (01:35:52):
Yeah, absolutely, I mean the people that think it's an
undiscovered primate. I can't be mad at them because maybe
they only heard like Rock Clyde whoops and some you know,
some sticks being broke out in the woods, you know,
which does like line up with primate activity. You know,
they will stack rocks, they will bluff charge you. They
do strange primate calls. So there is that, but when

(01:36:16):
you really experience like next level stuff, like there's just
no going back.

Speaker 3 (01:36:22):
Yeah. And you know, like I said, am I saying
that they ain't that type out there? No, I'm not.
They probably is and probably are, but I'm just saying,
well I've seen was no waight was no primate? No way?

Speaker 2 (01:36:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:36:38):
Absolutely, So if the OSAR carry man myself get back
out there, what what's the game plan?

Speaker 2 (01:36:43):
Like? What should we do?

Speaker 1 (01:36:45):
What do you think will put us in the center
of this activity to where we can document something, whether
it's on the audio recorders, the thermal devices, this new
thermal night vision drone that I'm getting, I mean, anything
that we can get. What's the game plan?

Speaker 3 (01:37:01):
Oh? Well, the only thing you got this is just
comes where I live and we'll go across. We can
go right here and cross the lake. I know where
they're at.

Speaker 2 (01:37:08):
Yeah, that's what I said.

Speaker 3 (01:37:10):
Where we was at the Daniel Boone huh. And I
ain't gonna say the other place that we went because
I don't want other people knowing. But if you remember,
I was a screenshot of that Google mapping where I
live and where we went the way it crow flies
ain't fifteen minutes.

Speaker 1 (01:37:30):
Oh wait, yeah, we me and Joe actually found that
spot on the Bigfoot Mapping project. We saw a few
icons there, so we're like, hey, Jimmy, let's go here,
and You're like, okay, let's go. I mean we went
to several areas in the Daniel Boone. You took us
to your areas where you've had experiences at and down
there by the graveyard. But the spot where we heard

(01:37:50):
the canines that came from the Bigfoot Mapping project. And
I'm not going to say where that's at, but it
just seems like where we were staying at at the
air BnB where you live at, right up the road,
like that was the hot spot, and we went way
deep into the woods. I'm looking for these things and
it's like the whole time.

Speaker 2 (01:38:08):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:38:10):
Yeah. Well, like I said, I've I've had stuff that
happened there, but I just didn't It's not that I
wasn't trying to hide it from him, So I was
just I really pretty much talking myself into believing that
it wasn't real. And I kept thinking that, kept thinking

(01:38:31):
that until it kept getting shoved up in my face,
and then you can't deny when you get videos and
pictures of it, you can't deny that. Then.

Speaker 1 (01:38:42):
Yeah, absolutely, it seems like if you got a firearm
or a bow you're out there hunting, you're gonna take
these things off.

Speaker 3 (01:38:51):
Yeah, where your other guy was on and had his encounter,
I know exactly where that's at.

Speaker 1 (01:39:00):
He kind of described it the same as like when
you were camping when you're a kid, Like these things
like rushing you and they're all around you and they're
hooping and hollering, like that's what he said in the podcast,
Like that's kind of what was going on with you,
except a lot more menacing.

Speaker 3 (01:39:17):
Yeah. I don't know what pissed this thing off.

Speaker 2 (01:39:21):
For too long.

Speaker 3 (01:39:23):
Uh yeah, but and I uh, you know, hearing all
my uncles and my dad reassured me that it was
just a mountain liner, it was a bobcat, or it
was this, or it was that. And then two you
got older, did I realize they was lied through their
teeth to me because I was just a kid. Yeah,

(01:39:44):
I mean it just it's just I can sit here
while we're talking and just thinking so much stuff, man,
that has happened to me and I don't know, but
there's more to Loft than what we realize.

Speaker 1 (01:39:59):
Oh yeah, absolutely, without a doubt. Okay, Jimmy, well, do
you have anything else that you'd like to share?

Speaker 3 (01:40:07):
Now? Man? That that about that about covers it. And
of course we uh, we'll keep in touch and anything
new happens. I know probably won't be tonight, but here
in the next night or two, I'm I'm wanting to
go back up there and tall blast, but this time,
when I do, I'm gonna be ready. I just couldn't

(01:40:30):
believe the last time I done it, how fast it
fired back at me. I could not believe it.

Speaker 2 (01:40:35):
Yeah, Deely, unexpected?

Speaker 3 (01:40:39):
Oh yeah, I mean I just told I was just
going to go out and plead with the tool. I
didn't know I was gonna get a response back that fast.
But no, man, I'm glad to be back on the show.
I can't wait till you and Nosart harry Man to
come back. And I definitely this summer before this fall
comes and it gets rough and stuff, I promise you

(01:40:59):
all come after you just get with David and I'll
come out there and we'll spend three or four days
out there at this farm and I guarantee you something
will stir up. No, yeah, it always seems to follow me.

Speaker 1 (01:41:12):
I guarantee you you will see the orbs out there,
that's for sure. I don't know if Bigfoot's going to
come in, but you will see the lights. And yeah,
when you do come out, you will definitely have a
comfortable place to stay. We'll pull up the camper up
there so you'll have everything you need, and I'll stay
in my tent and I think we'll we'll be able
to do some pretty good research out there for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:41:35):
Yeah, man, I'm excited. I can't wait. But as always,
Buddy H, thank a lot of you and H doing
the right thing, and don't let any of the haters
try to tell you otherwise.

Speaker 1 (01:41:48):
I appreciate that, and thank you so much for telling
your encounters and experiences here on the channel. I mean,
I really don't know what to say, Like, I'm extremely
grateful and thankful for everything you've done.

Speaker 2 (01:42:00):
I mean, I wouldn't be able to do without people
like you.

Speaker 3 (01:42:04):
Yeah. No, well, just thanks for having a platform for
people like us. That's all we ask, and not none
of the bogus bullshitters.

Speaker 1 (01:42:14):
Absolutely well, send me anything that you haven't already. And
anything that you come across in the future, definitely document it,
even if you question it at first, like take a
picture of it.

Speaker 3 (01:42:26):
Okay, I will, Buddy, I promise.

Speaker 2 (01:42:27):
All right.

Speaker 1 (01:42:28):
Sounds good, and you take care of yourself.

Speaker 3 (01:42:30):
All right, you too.

Speaker 1 (01:42:32):
All right, I'll talk to you later. Man, See buddy, yep,
see latter man?

Speaker 3 (01:42:37):
Fine, all right.

Speaker 2 (01:42:40):
Everyone.

Speaker 1 (01:42:40):
That was Jimmy from the Daniel Boone National Forest in Kentucky.
And I consider Jimmy one of my close friends. There's
not very many people that understand me that have had
the same experiences and e sighting encounters as myself, but
Jimmy has. Jimmy knows what it feels like to be
paralleled by these creatures, to be bluff chair arch by them.

(01:43:01):
To know what it feels like when one of these
things slaps the side of your house. But not only that,
it goes far beyond just an unknown primate, an undiscovered
creature living in North America. Jimmy knows what it feels
like to experience a supernatural activity. I talk about the
giant ale that I've seen and the orbs, the cloaking,

(01:43:22):
and Jimmy can certainly relate. He's seen the same things,
and we're not talking about paradolia here. We're talking about
eight to ten foot creature that's invisible walking through the
forest and you can really feel its presence, the orbs.
It's definitely supernatural. The Native Americans have talked about it
for generations and they say to never pursue the orbs

(01:43:45):
or else you will meet your demise. What did you
guys think about the vocalizations and also the trailcam photos.
The shadow person or the cloak sasquatch on the muddy
trailcam is definitely freaky, to say the least. I plan
on getting back out there with Jimmy here this winter,
so stay tuned for that in the future. I appreciate

(01:44:06):
everyone for listening, and until the next one, you guys
be safe out in the forest.
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