“Thermal Footage Captures Bigfoot Family? | Joe & Pat Encounter at The Land Between The Lakes! - SASQUATCH THEORY

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Hey everyone, and welcome to another Sasquatch Theory podcast. On
this episode, we have Joe and Pat Parker from Louisiana
and they caught some awesome thermal footage from the land
between the Lakes and Kentucky. Joe and Pat were out
there doing bigfoot research in the springtime and they were

(00:24):
driving a vehicle. One person was operating the vehicle and
the other person was looking out the window with the
thermal device when they caught something that they just could
not explain. They managed to capture thermal footage of these
cryptid creatures and they're not sure if it's a bigfoot
or a dog man. Nevertheless, it's terrifying and unsettling to

(00:45):
be staring at these unknown creatures and to know that
they're only a short distance away. As they finally realized
and came to terms with what they were looking at,
they determined it was not a good idea to pursue
these creatures and to just view them from a short
distance away. If you were listening to this on Spotify

(01:07):
or some other podcast, you can see the thermal footage
on my YouTube channel and I will leave a link
in the description down below. It certainly does sound like
crypto creatures, and it makes you wonder what it truly was.
All Right, with all that being said, let's dive into
our next Bigfoot report with Pat and Joe Parker here

(01:28):
on Sasquatch Theory. All right, Joe and Pat, welcome to
Sasquatch Theory. How are you guys doing today.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
I'm doing sign Miguel.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
Good. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
Absolutely, it's a pleasure to have you on the show,
Joe and Pat. If you would tell me a little
bit about yourselves and where you guys are from and
this bigfoot encounter that you guys had and the thermal
that you guys captured.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
Okay, Well, were are a couple. We've been together for
quite some time now, and we're both retired now, and
we live down here in Louisiana, kind of a mid
midwest Louisiana, and we've been we call it boogering. We've
been boogering for a while together. We both are believers

(02:32):
in it and we both well, she's had, you know,
a couple of encounters of visuals and then now we
had this other encounter that we'll get into, and so
we've been going out quite a bit the last five years.
This year we got us a new thermal, so that's
helped the calls of catching something at night. But we did,

(02:55):
and we've been together and been going at it and
we're good for our best friends and that's what we do.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
That's amazing. If you guys would tell me what you
were doing that night and kind of what unfolded with
this thermal footage.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
Okay, we we got there and uh, we were going
out to a meet and greek, but it did not
it did not materialize that that the fifteenth of March
was when all the you know, softball sized hells predicted
in Missouri and the high winds was blowing and predicted

(03:32):
up to one hundred mile hour winds. And that weekend,
for whatever reason, they had a meet and greet schedule
pre schedule, and so we was we was going to
it and it was in land between the lakes, and
we had opportunity to stop. And the night before everybody
was supposed to get there and and everybody I got

(03:53):
on I got on the messenger group chat and it said, look, guys,
if y'all want turn around, y'all can and uh or
or stay home and we'll turn around and go back home.
They said no, we're all going. Uh, I said, this
other deal has been canceled. But that's what we was
told by one of our members, and so I was
gonna call it off if they weren't safe with it.
And we all went anyway, We already had a cabin

(04:16):
and we went out big footing. We got there all
on a Friday. We finally got all to the cabin
by midday, uh, midday midnight Friday, we had one of
our members couldn't get into the cabin. Uh, so we
had to go down and get them and cut a
cut a tree out of the way to enough to
let them by the end of it and got back
to the cabin. And so we went out and looked

(04:41):
around all day Saturday when the weather broke and uh,
we just traveled and looked, and we was in two
different vehicles most of the day. And uh when nightfall came,
we went went to Uh we got them back to eating.
Everybody decided what was gonna do, and then we said,
well we'll go back out, and we said our last

(05:01):
night here. And we didn't know who was you know,
what was going to get into But anyway, we all
loaded up three of us in my truck and three
and the other truck, and we took off with our
thermal in hand, and Miss Pat was running a thermal.

Speaker 4 (05:15):
So what happened was we were writing along. One of
the members had to stay behind because she wasn't feeling well.
So there was a total of six of us just
in two separate vehicles. They were a little bit further back,
you know, they had thermals looking around. We were driving
on the back roads and we come around a bend

(05:40):
and we saw I saw a heat signature, a large
heat signature, I thought, maybe even two. And what I
was doing, I was writing behind the driver, which was Joe,
and I was thermaling. And the thermal has Wi Fi capabilities,

(06:05):
so they were able to see everything that I was
able to see through the lens on the phone which
was mounted up there, so they also seen the signature
and there was movement. I said, hey, guys, I think
I got something here. So I locked in on it.

(06:25):
We were probably maybe a quarter mile away, not quite sure,
and we just we drove around and we stopped right
where it was at and I locked on it. And
Joe actually he's able to do different things from the

(06:47):
phone for the camera, like record or do a still
shot picture zoom in and zoom out that he's able
to do from the phone. What I asked him to do,
I said, start recording, and I state that on the thermal,
on the on the video itself, and you could I.

Speaker 5 (07:12):
Could see movement.

Speaker 4 (07:13):
I start describing exactly what I was seeing, and we
and like I said, it was very foggy, and we
had torrential downpours, a lot of moisture in the air.
None of the other thermals were able to penetrate that.
Like I said, it was severe storms all weekend long.

(07:35):
They were predicting softball sized hail. We actually had to
park our vehicles like in different locations and barns and
awnings and different under awnings and different things like that
to try and protect them. And there was a storm
that did hit a few hours later after we returned

(07:57):
back to the cabin, but.

Speaker 5 (08:01):
It was about thirty second about I.

Speaker 4 (08:03):
Would say, maybe fifteen twenty seconds as we were watching
this all this, and it seemed to be standing sideways,
like hiding behind a bush, and then all of a sudden,
it turned around and it basically squared up at us,

(08:25):
like here I am, you know, Okay, you see me here,
I am, and I think it was test to see
if we could see it. So it stood there. It
moved very very slowly back and forth different ways, and
even at one point it put its hand up over

(08:49):
its face that we could see through the lens. It
it moved just everything. It was standing upright. What I
did is I tried to document exactly what I was
seeing through the lens through the camera on the recording,

(09:13):
so this way it could be documented. And it moved back.
Like I said, it continually moved back and forth. It
didn't do anything. It just stood there. Uh, And I
described it. And after about ten minutes, Joe shut the

(09:35):
camera off and he doesn't know why even shut it up,
stopped the recording, and I go, why'd you stop the recording? Well,
it was due to maybe he was saying, to downloading.
I said, well, start it back up. But in the process,
the passenger, which was Bud, got out of the truck

(09:56):
and he walked around and he took the camera from me,
and he was going to walk towards it and what
he could see when he when he was at the
edge of the road, there was like.

Speaker 5 (10:10):
A partial.

Speaker 4 (10:12):
Cornfield that went back to a woodline and at the way,
and it was a It was a small woodline and
behind that woodline was a deep cre was a creek there,
and the subject was standing on the other side of
the creek.

Speaker 6 (10:30):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (10:31):
He stepped out, and what it did is it hid
from him. It turned sideways and was standing there. And
I was able to record the orbits on the eyes.
I don't know exactly what you would call that. You
could see the mouth moving a little bit. You could
see a homp on its back some as well, and

(10:54):
there was a heap signature like in the abdomen area.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (11:00):
It was shifting different ways. It appeared to be trying
to hide hide, so it was showing some kind of intelligence.
He at one point he did shine a flashlight over there,
so because I asked him, I said, light it up,
let's see what this is. We knew we had something.

(11:21):
We knew it was some kind of cryptid and he
could see he could see the creek. We were able
to see the subject itself. We didn't hear any noise,
we didn't see any eyeshine. But the thing is is

(11:42):
we did have the truck running and Joe had basically
just put his foot on the brake the entire time.
It was never put in park or the vehicle was
shut off. But in the meantime, as well as our
other group, the other truck come up behind us, and

(12:03):
he had got out as well with Bud, and they
were both standing there looking at it, so there.

Speaker 5 (12:09):
Was two vehicles there.

Speaker 4 (12:12):
When Bud decided he was gonna maybe walk towards it
to see what it was, and he stepped in mud.

Speaker 5 (12:22):
Above his ankles.

Speaker 4 (12:23):
He had a pair of slippers on, and he chose
not to go, which I think believe it might have
been a good thing, and he got back in the truck.
But when he got back in the truck, whatever it was,
the subject turned itself back around where you could see

(12:43):
what it was, and it just stood there for basically
six more minutes or more, just standing there looking at us.
Like I said, slow, very very slow calculated movements, shifting
one way to the other. What we can't understand is

(13:07):
is it had an out, and we can't really understand
why we didn't take it. We had done the process
of elimination. It remained on whatever it was. It was
on two legs. We were able to get some still shots,

(13:27):
some different things like that. But when we drove away
and we decided, hey, it's just time to go. This
is we had already been there maybe twenty five minutes,
and it never offered to leave.

Speaker 5 (13:45):
So as he's.

Speaker 4 (13:47):
Driving off, we can it paralleled us. We could see it.
I'm still filming, and we were able to catch on
the film.

Speaker 5 (14:00):
A total of three subjects.

Speaker 4 (14:03):
And it was carrying something as well on top of
it too, And and like I said, and then we
drove off. Uh, we do not know what it was
we did. We weren't able to get a close look
up on it. And Joe will explain that the other
things that we did, Like we did a recon about

(14:28):
a month later, and he can explain that.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
It was like, it's a ten hour trip for us
to go up there, and the rest of the guys
had anywhere from five to seven hour trips from where
they were coming from. So it took a little while
for us to go back, and we all got it
was pretty of us went back. It was in our trip.
It was there to do around the film itself, and

(14:55):
you the video and was in on some of the
video and all that, and so it was able to
go back. We got closer we thought we could to
the right spot. We went out and one of our
guys says, is, asked, how far out you think it is? Well,

(15:16):
Bud says, it's it's seventy eight large, around seventy yards
out there. I said, okay, so it has to be.
And it came downhill when it was leaving. Now, on
the leaving part of it, we still was up under
our mind. We wanted to get the thing to move
what we could tell more about it. As soon as
I touched off the break, it squeaks a little, and

(15:41):
the truck he that had moved a little when I
was coming off the break, But the time I let
off the break, everything starts moving. Two subjects go downhill.
I didn't realize for a long time why did she
or it came toward us and downhill instead of going
away from us and hiding, you know, or moving off
away from us. But later I was able to see

(16:02):
another subject, a little smaller subject in front of it
down the hill and then went by and they both
walked off together. You have to slow the fem down,
you know, to slow mow it, and you can see
two sets of legs walking off till they get to
a big tree. But at the same time it's a
subject way bigger than her, or it whatever you want

(16:23):
to call it, way bigger than her. This movie just
left to right in the background you can barely see it,
thuminals of it, and it's going right across walking pretty
fast paced, and all three of them get to this
big tree that's kind of lined up. I guess where
they thought they were hid from us, which they was,
and then they go off at about a forty five

(16:43):
down the creek or up the hill from the creek
and that thing, and walk down the only hill was there,
because I was looking for the elevation there was none.
It walked down that creek bank to the creek. It
picked up the other one, uh, walked off with it,
and then they got to that tree. Then they turned,
all three of them turned. Best we could tell, it

(17:03):
was three of them that turned and went up the
hill away from us. And these two good little signatures,
you know, you just see a moving through the leaves
or that leaves, but through the trees. And they moved off,
and by that time we'd moved up a little bit
in the truck. But it wasn't no use staying there
anymore because they was gone. They was gone, they was

(17:24):
ready to leave anyway. I say that this creature showed
lots of intelligence. It was sitting there holding his ground
where it normally probably would have got out of there,
but it had possibly two smaller ones with it. It
had one smaller one that walked off, as I could
see plainly on film, so I knew it had responsibility

(17:47):
for it. And then the big creature that came across
the back of it. On I noticed how much bigger
it was than the original one that turned around that
we originally seen.

Speaker 1 (17:58):
Yeah, that is interesting. How far away from the vehicle
do you think the sasquatch were?

Speaker 2 (18:05):
So the creatures themselfs was around the seventy yards when
I went out and we redone it where we went
back and I walked out for the subject and two
of the subjects, me and the buddy of mine, which
is Bud. We're both about six foot two, and we
were out there, respectively, in the seven yard range, just

(18:28):
across the creek where there's only elevation. It was. That
makes sense. It had to be on the other side
of the creek and walk downhill toward us at a
not right toward us, but at a little bit of
a angle walking away from us, but down the hill
into the creek, and that's about seventy yards away best
we could tell.

Speaker 4 (18:45):
Yes, it never showed any aggression really other than it
standing its ground with us. It did show intelligence by
the way it moved, and like I said, I was
able to describe what I saw through the lens and
the only way we could see it because we were

(19:07):
in between thunderstorms of the severe weather that had been around,
and that was the only way we could see it.
It was through the lens.

Speaker 5 (19:20):
It was. We know that it was tall.

Speaker 4 (19:24):
We are trying to estimate that it was between seven
maybe eight foot tall maybe, and the other one was
larger and another one was smaller. We don't know what
it was carrying. It was carrying something, and at first appearance,

(19:45):
it looked like Mamory grant glands or breasts or whatever.
It appeared to have a snout what I could see,
the arms were very long. It appeared to have a
set of ears on it. Periodically. I don't know if
they were laid back at times and brought forward at times.

(20:06):
It was a little bit hard to tell. It did
have a hump on its back when it turned sideways
that we were able to see, which is kind of
was rather interesting.

Speaker 5 (20:22):
It was huge.

Speaker 4 (20:23):
It was not a man. The weather was too severe
severe for that. It was after ten o'clock at night
in the middle of LBL. I don't think so. And
we just basically, we have caught something. We've had it

(20:44):
looked at, we're gonna We tried to stabilize it, we
chose not to. We chose to leave it raw. We
chose to leave it raw with the with with the
audio as well, because we wanted to be able to
present this to our peers, so maybe we could learn

(21:08):
something from this and they can make their own decision
on what it is. We know it's some kind of
cryptid that it's either a dog man or a dog woman,
which some believe, or it's a sasquatch, but we would

(21:29):
like to present this to everyone to see.

Speaker 5 (21:33):
And we.

Speaker 4 (21:36):
Had a hard time trying to get any kind of
help or direction on what to do. And I had
a couple of friends that directed us towards the dog
man project, with Jody Cook and Kenny Jubadeaux, So we

(21:56):
went ahead and we went that way.

Speaker 5 (21:58):
And they have very supportive.

Speaker 4 (22:01):
They posted it on their website that you can see,
and we're doing a few interviews just to try and
share this with the world. It was on Coast to Coast,
I believe last Thursday, and that's basically what we would
like to do. Allow people to make their own decision

(22:23):
and make people and we can learn something from this
this film and just make people aware that these things
are out there.

Speaker 1 (22:32):
Absolutely, and it's an amazing capture. You guys should both
be proud of yourselves. And I thought the stabilization was
really good because I own a thermal device and it's
really hard to hold still. And yes, the creature looks huge,
it looks by petal, it looks upright. I can't say
for sure if it's a dog man or a sasquatch.
My initial impression was Bigfoot, but at the same time,

(22:55):
you are at land between the lakes and that place
is known for dog man, so it could be. And
you mentioned it had ears and a snout, so yeah,
that's scary to think about. Do you think what it
was holding or the smaller heat signature was like a
juvenile dog man or Bigfoot? What are your thoughts on that?

Speaker 4 (23:14):
Possibly I'm leaning in that direction myself personally. But what
I would like to do is I would like to
leave that up to the individual and to decide for
themselves what they see.

Speaker 3 (23:33):
Yeah, absolutely, the story.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
Don't do the film just as you really got to
see if you could slow it down and show everybody,
you know, the key features in it, which is it's
sixteen minutes long, a ten and a six. But I
think they would speak for itself. It would stand for
itself in the you know. The first thing that I felt,

(23:58):
as well as probably everybody else besides we got something
is as long as it's not, you know, a human,
then we got something very important. It's it's stayed way
too long that normally people catch you know, usually this
only I think I never got to put the thing
in park or never even thought about anything. I'm thinking,
we're not gonna be here with a second. It's gonna

(24:19):
turn and be gone. If if you move the camera,
it can never be I mean you moved a little bit,
they may not never get again.

Speaker 3 (24:25):
M h yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
But it's that's what made me think it had a responsibility.
In my opinion, I don't see creatures hunting with their
little ones. It's not controllable or they're not staying in line.
You know. I think they were on the move due
to the weather and the like of uh, maybe due

(24:48):
to the weather and you know, working the animals that
were out that night. It was just tons of game
out in between them. Storms and the wind and the
and the rain and all kept you know, the scent
down and the tracks, uh, the noises down where the
deer can really pick up on it as good. I
don't know if they're just moving place to place. They

(25:09):
might have been hunting, but it just don't seem likely
that they would hunt with the little ones. They were
kind of like they were stir crazy by then that
a couple of them was they had broken away from
the main main ones and moved out their little piece
from it, and then it went right down toward it
picked you know, not pick it up, but it actually
like got it with it, and they both walked off
together and went in behind a tree, then went off

(25:31):
up the hill away from us, and then a bigger one,
much bigger one went across behind it. Maybe in the
future we'll have something better to get the footage to
do something with, maybe down the road, but we have
we've really struggled to get it, get to shake and
all that out of it to where you could see
any better than what we can. And it's a lot

(25:52):
of if you see it, it's a lot of raw
language on it from people are startled, people are scared
to a point. But you know, I mean it's a
lot of things going on. People's into denial and the
truck we all had about with all kinds of stuff
at night, like like miss pat said, we done our
best to lose the whole thing and that you not

(26:12):
come out with nothing, but we was able to, thank goodness,
and uh, it was just one of these weird catches
you go out for but you're not really expecting it.

Speaker 3 (26:22):
Yeah, right it.

Speaker 5 (26:24):
We're still actually processing it.

Speaker 4 (26:27):
Like if you believe in I never believed like example,
like in dog Man, I've seen a sasquatch. Okay, I
believe in those, but any other cryptids.

Speaker 5 (26:40):
No, this one. This one had ears. The way it
was built.

Speaker 4 (26:47):
It was built built a lot different than what we
have heard about and what we have seen a lot
of us have seen. And if you believe in one cryptid,
you need to believe in them all.

Speaker 5 (27:01):
And you know it's a.

Speaker 4 (27:05):
Good thing that bud did not approach whatever it was
because it was big, and like I said, it did
square up. Don't try and be so brave, show a
little bit of respect there so you can get out
of there. It wasn't a good place to take on
something in those conditions.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
Why ain't worth the verification? Right?

Speaker 5 (27:29):
Not in those conditions.

Speaker 2 (27:30):
Yeah. Absolutely, with three creatures there, that was no moving
If they were to come at us, even though we
was right at the truck, most of us in the truck,
we probably wouldn't have got out of there. And because
they covered seventy yards so quick, the ground ones would
have they've been honest before we could get out of.

Speaker 5 (27:49):
There, right.

Speaker 4 (27:50):
And also why we were able to see it so
well now, Like I said, a lot of humidity was
in the air that night.

Speaker 5 (28:00):
There was a little bit of fog. We're running along a.

Speaker 4 (28:04):
Creek and it was traveling along a creek and the
other thermals were having a hard time trying to trying
to penetrate with all the moisture in the air. Our
thermal just happened to work that night, and we were
it was a newer thermal, so we were kind of

(28:26):
like testing it out. But there was no leaves on
the trees jet at that time of year. But when
we did go back, we went back exactly one month later,
and we had to wait to go back. The reason
being is there was such severe storms and flooding this

(28:46):
spring that we're a ten hour drive just to land
between the lakes and bud is over a six hour
drive too as well, and with all the storms and
everything and the flooding, it was hard to even.

Speaker 5 (29:05):
Get to the areas.

Speaker 4 (29:08):
We went through Mississippi and seemed a lot of flooding.
I'm sure you had a lot of flooding up your
way as well, But the leaves were back on the
trees and the bushes and it was greened out some
when we did get there.

Speaker 1 (29:24):
Yeah, it's kind of hard to film thermal like with
all the foliage on the trees. It's a lot easier
in the spring or winter time or even the fall time.
Right now, it's hard to penetrate into the woods. But
I'm glad that your guys' thermal device worked. You said
that this was in March, so there wasn't as much
foliage on the tree as Yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
And that's a late up at LBL is a late
streaming place. I guess you'd say it stays col up
or seems black longer. I mean the blue Belt don't
come as early as it does like down here, by
no means it's later in the year when it actually blooms.

Speaker 3 (30:01):
Yeah, like mid April.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
Comes in later, just like I know you a turkey hunter,
it comes in later up there too because of the
spring and all that to do with their you know,
gobbling and all that just happens a little later.

Speaker 1 (30:17):
Yeah, absolutely, Well, I think both of you should be
proud of yourselves for capturing this thermal footage. I think
it's excellent and you know, not a lot of people
get evidence when it comes to these creatures, so you
both did an amazing job. And yeah, I'm very impressed.
If there's anything I can do as far as stabilizing
the video footage improving the audio, let me know. But

(30:39):
if you also want to keep it raw, I completely understand.
It makes sense though these things were following the creeks,
and you often hear that with cryptive creatures, that you'll
find them by waterways. What do you think they were
doing that night? Do you think they were hunting? And
you guys just happen to cross paths.

Speaker 2 (30:58):
You know what.

Speaker 4 (30:59):
Actually just not quite sure. There was a lot of
game out there because it was in between thunderstorms, and
and we did see, you know, a lot of deer
out feeding and owls, and we even saw a coyote
hunt and we saw the deer that they were actually

(31:20):
hunting through the thermal.

Speaker 5 (31:23):
You know, it's a little bit hard to say.

Speaker 4 (31:26):
With I don't I don't know, you know, it appeared
to be a family unit. I personally feel that they
were passing through maybe or it's hard to say, but
they were out and about. Put it that way.

Speaker 1 (31:46):
Yeah, absolutely, And it sounds like wildlife was just out
in general, like animals were moving around that night. And
I think that's important for research. When you start to
notice a lot of critters just out and about, these
things most likely are as well because they're following the
food sources or they just want to move, you know,
as well because of the thunderstorms. You said that you

(32:06):
were in between storms, so maybe the barometric pressure had
something to do with it. Of course, this is all
a theory, but they were on their feet that night.

Speaker 4 (32:14):
And what I found, what I did find interesting when
I did look back is not that it's anything, but
it's something to take note of. Is the night before
there was a full moon and it was a lunar
eclipse as well.

Speaker 1 (32:30):
Oh wow, Yeah, that is an important piece of information there.
And I've heard from people that when there's an eclipse
or a full moon, these things are moving around like crazy.
One of my buddies was at a Sasquatch area where
he lives at and he had some other bigfoot researchers
there and it was during the eclipse and they did
a bigfoot call in one hollered back across the creek.

(32:51):
So I mean, oh, yes, I think it does have
something to do with it. You mentioned there was a
lot of like mix emotions, like you guys were you know,
blown away by what by what you guys were looking at.
Some people were doubting that what were your feelings in
that moment, Like were you afraid that this thing was
going to come at you or were you more afraid

(33:13):
that it was just gonna hide behind a tree or
just walk off and disappear.

Speaker 4 (33:18):
Well, me personally, I felt a responsibility that I had
to contain myself and kind of just trying to keep
it together because I was the main line of sight
for our safety actually, and because they couldn't see it

(33:41):
unless I stayed focused on it, and so I tried to.
I'm trying, I was trying to process it. I'm trying
to figure out what it is. This is why I'm
just you're rambling, you're babbling, You're just trying to make
sense of it all. And it was a little bit
nerve wracking as what it was, but you had to

(34:04):
hold it together and I did a lot of processing.
I think it hit more when I got back home
where I could see it mainly on my iPad and
we could see it on a bigger screen.

Speaker 5 (34:18):
We prefer to leave it raw to show hey, this
is what it is.

Speaker 4 (34:27):
We do not plan to show the entire video anyway,
just some key points. And like I said, there was
a little bit of language in there, and that's what
helps with.

Speaker 5 (34:44):
It being real.

Speaker 2 (34:46):
There's raw and we were all over with what are
we seeing. I think the fact that we didn't see
and Raister exactly what it was and could see as
you know, like a daytime close upciding would be where
you're looking right in the eyeballs or something and you
should look right back at you but looking to the tuminals.

(35:07):
We went on and continue hour night tumba of hunt
or whatever you want to call it, because we went
on another probably five or ten miles around there, go
real slow, just doing the same thing we was doing.
After that happened. Once they moved off and we moved
off a little bit, we just kept on going about

(35:29):
ten miles an hour down the road, just looking in
wherever we could do there. Now we might have cut
them off if if we'd have moved quick enough when
they were moving, we might could have got ahead of
them again. But nobody thought about it at the time.
We were just glad to get what we got. I
think it's set in really hard when we got back home,
what we what could have happened, and what would have
happened if if different things you know, could have went down.

(35:51):
It was really a thing that took a little while
to process it before you realize what kind of danger
you could have been in if things went south. I
think they would have went south. That buddy would have
made it made over that way much further across that
creek especially or to the creek. He never got back
to the truck. If it came for him and I

(36:13):
don't know what you do with No matter what you got,
you can't hardly stop multiple creatures like you think you
can't one. Uh, it's just do you just just because
you can hit them, don't mean you're gonna stop them.
You know how that is with critters running after you
hit them in a dead blow. I mean they'll keep
they'll keep right on running to whatever. And if they're

(36:36):
forgetting you, they're gonna run to the get you.

Speaker 5 (36:39):
I yelled at it, trying to get a reaction.

Speaker 4 (36:45):
I got a slow movement where it did turn and
look at me, and there may been may have been others,
but I wanted to stay focused on the subject so
we didn't lose it.

Speaker 5 (36:59):
We tried our best.

Speaker 4 (37:00):
To lose it anyway, but I wanted to stress you know,
you're never prepared. I don't care what you say. You're
never prepared when it decides to hit.

Speaker 5 (37:12):
I have learned. I'm a big audio buff.

Speaker 4 (37:16):
I have learned that my audio is running when I
step out of the truck always because I have lost
a valuable information by turning it on when I got out.
So you're never prepared. I wish the only thing we

(37:37):
wish we would have hit record when we first saw
the subject at a distance, because it was large, very large,
and it seemed to split like there was two and
like I said, they were behind the woodline, and with
there are no leaves on the.

Speaker 5 (37:57):
Trees, we were able to see it pretty well.

Speaker 4 (38:01):
And and when we rolled up on it, like I said,
I knew we had something.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
Yeah, it's a distance the road too, you know, as
far as I was. When when I walked back there
and I got it seventy your yards plus and I
was on the bank on the other side, I says,
no wonder they didn't move. They didn't think, no way
in the world we'd never see them, because no ambient
light from a from a from a truck, a car
or whatever was was gonna be glaring back there that

(38:32):
far off the road. It was such a you know
across the creek had a buffers on the woods with
the creek. Uh, and it was working in clean kind
of two fields. And uh, you know I seen it
right then. I said, no wonder it didn't run. It
thought as long as we drove on byhind, we didn't
have no means we'd never see it. And we wouldn't

(38:53):
have seen it if you'd have had night vision instead
of firmly, you would have caught it. It was that
well hid. When it first turned, it was just nothing stood.
It was no form of the of a of a
body there that stuck, that stood out at that point
when we pulled up the side of it, you know,
like she said, we was a good long way since

(39:13):
she first picked it up. Then we got up there,
pulled on up, kept on going, kept on going, and
we got up even with it at a at ninety
degrees away, I mean, you know, across the field from it,
and then it was around seventy yards. But by then
it's done hunkered over his back to us, and it was.
And when it stepped out, that's when you got to

(39:34):
see the outline of all the really the head and
the arm and you know, maybe some of the legs
and all that, or both legs coming around. And it
stepped off down the hill toward us a little bit,
get behind some more a little like a big limb,
and it's just there looking at you, behind this limb,
and you can see, you know, like the limb come

(39:56):
across his collar bomb best I could tell on the video.
And then above it you can see if head real well,
and then below that you can see the chest, lower
abdomenm on down down pretty close to the light world's
thighs where human being would be. And then the rest
of it would disappeared I guess in behind the foldage
or limbs or something.

Speaker 5 (40:17):
And appeared to have more hair on.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
That is what it was, and it was unreal how
it could stay. Heeded to me. It knew if we
drove on by it, he had well enough he could
just sit there. But then it got caught out because
we stopped waiting waiting was watching and watching and watching.
The didn't have to make a movie see what we
would doing.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
I guess yeah, you can tell it was confused, like
how are these people able to see me? Are they
looking at me? Because they're so used to cars driving
by at night and nobody is able to see them.
So I think that's what it was trying to figure out,
like why did they stop? And I think you guys
deployed a very good tactic there as far as someone
driving or another one filming with the thermal device, I've

(41:00):
done that several times, but of course when someone else
is driving, it's hard to get them to slow down.
To where you can actually pick up something. And I
feel like you guys were working together. The people that
I was with, they're going like forty miles an hour
down back of the Yeah, but you can see like
deer just standing at the edge of the woods right
off the road, and like it's the same way with deer,

(41:21):
like they know that nobody sees them. But with the
thermal device, it's like, oh, stop, there's something there. And
it's a good way to capture stuff.

Speaker 2 (41:30):
And you need to you know, you know yourself. You
need to feel slightly ahead of the truck because if
you if you ride it or not in the great turn,
you're going by so fast no matter what speed you are,
it's like a blurb. But if you get out in
front of the truck a little bit, it slows the
reactions down and you and your eye pies and you
get we can stop. If she says something, well, I
see it, don't She don't have to say anything. If

(41:51):
I see it on the screen, I'll stop the truck
at ten miles an hour and I'll be racked their
head instead of being zoom going by, and I have
to back up. And by the end, if it's something
I won't get away from eastern down, yeah, because we
it mkes a lot of difference, you right about the speed.

Speaker 4 (42:08):
Yes, And we live relatively close here in Louisiana to
the National Forest. So we had had this thermal for
about two months, and we missed a great capture. You know,
we dropped the ball at a location one time, and

(42:29):
we're going back to that location here in the future.
So we did get a better thermal. And we had
been out religiously working with this thermal anyway for the
last two months, and we learned how to drive along
and how to recognize different things.

Speaker 5 (42:52):
We even saw some burns in the forest.

Speaker 4 (42:55):
That I was even calling it. You know, there's something
there and it's a little bitty fire that hadn't even
gone out yet.

Speaker 2 (43:03):
You know.

Speaker 4 (43:03):
We were able to catch flying squirrels when they were, yes,
when they were in rut, and just different things like that.
If it may have been somebody else that was kind
of new with their camera and hadn't used it a
lot may not have caught the signatures. But with us

(43:26):
working together and both in the vehicle and had and
had been doing this for a while is what created
more or less our success.

Speaker 1 (43:38):
Yeah, absolutely, and watching the flying squirrels fly around like
Superman is really cool. And they let you know that
there's stuff around you and you would have no idea
unless you had a thermal device.

Speaker 2 (43:49):
Are you right about that? You know, if you got
a low quality when you hardly ever pick that up
from fall off of you who he's picking it up from?
You know, one hundred yards away, you've seen a little
bitty it looks like a dang shooting star running from
tree to tree, you know, little bitty, little bitty thing.
And then all of a sudden it runs at the
top of a pine tree and bails out. And I'm

(44:11):
telling us, if it's gliding down and it can't be
for one thing, it ain't a bird. It's gonna be
a squirrel or something, a flying squirrel because it's going down,
because that's what they do. Another thing, you know, I
wondered if that thing was not a real old female
and she just made a bad decision of taking an

(44:31):
uneedy chance of staying out there where too long, because
they could have easily got away from it from Miguel.
They could have easily when a truck comes around, how
far down it was the truck lights is there. They're
seeing us truck lights really really easy. From their distance
where they're at. They could have went and hid. You
ain't never seen nothing, But they just didn't have the

(44:54):
idea that I guess that far back as they was
that we could see them. And then when we stopped,
it really blowed their mind. And I don't know if
she was younger and just took an uneedy chance and
you know, or she was just got caught out, you know,
in a bad situation for her, a good one for us.
And there's a lot of studying that thing. I found

(45:17):
stuff this week. It's been had it six months. It's
about and it's every week. Every day you look at it,
you'll find something different. Bad. Perfect Strangers come up there
in the outing when we was at and they would
tell you stuff and they'd say, I didn't see and
so you know, you're right, that is a hotspot and
this is moving off when at the end of video

(45:39):
what was.

Speaker 4 (45:40):
Really confusing to me and sparked my interest is I
couldn't understand what was in that abdomen area to light
up the way it did, and it looked out of form,

(46:00):
and it took me a month to try and figure.

Speaker 5 (46:05):
Out what I was looking at. Actually it took me
a month, Like I.

Speaker 4 (46:10):
Said, you know, I'm going and the Dogman Project found
it right away with and I intentionally didn't say anything
to them, just to see if they would pick it up.

Speaker 5 (46:26):
But they did. They saw it right away.

Speaker 4 (46:31):
There is, like I said, all that can be seen
on the website with the North American dog Man Project.
Anybody can go look at it, and we are getting
very positive feedback, which is great.

Speaker 5 (46:50):
Not always do you get that type of feedback.

Speaker 1 (46:54):
I wasn't pay any attention to the negative feedback. You're
going to get that no matter what, and you just
kind of have to ignore it. But I do feel
like these things are curious. And one thing I noticed
is certain parts of this creature are like more lit
up than others, and to me, that was indicating that
it was completely covered in fur, her hair, whatever you
want to call it.

Speaker 4 (47:15):
Yes, on the one picture, I don't know if I
sent that to you, I'm gonna I'm gonna double check.
But what really sparked my interest is the one that's
a little bit darker. I got a magnifying glass and
looked at it, and you could see and you can

(47:37):
see the main it looked like a lion's mane around
its neck. The arms are unusually long, uh. And the
fingers it looked like it fingers were different, and it
looked like something from Doctor Seuss The Grinch with the

(47:59):
with the hair or coming off of the fingertips, which
I found that quite interesting.

Speaker 1 (48:07):
And the snout, Yeah, it very well could be a
dog man. And I got similar thermal footage one day
when I was camping in the Mark twenty National Forest
and we were out there cooking and we stayed for
a few days. We started doing like rock clocks and
calls and wood knocks. We were doing it a little
bit too excessively, but something showed up and I could

(48:30):
see it probably about I don't know, I'd say like
sixty yards or so give or take into the woodline,
and it looked like it was bipedal. I think it
was a juvenile. I'm not really sure, but I figured,
if it's bigfoot, there's probably more around us, like I've
been in the situation where they completely surround your camp.
So I panned around and I did a full three sixty.

(48:50):
When I look back, it was completely gone. And I
showed you, guys, that footage and it's kind of similar
to what you captured. Not as big, not as impressive,
but I think it's pretty close, very very similar.

Speaker 4 (49:02):
I was shocked on like almost like the location it
was located.

Speaker 5 (49:08):
I sent you another picture and I go look at this.

Speaker 4 (49:11):
It was it was almost identical, like the like where
the type of foliage or the type of the woodline
that it was standing in. That's what I found very interesting,
the comparison.

Speaker 1 (49:27):
Yeah, and both of our videos were shot near water.
This was by the Big Piney River in the Mark
Twain Forest. There's a huge power line strip that goes
there and a cemetery right down the road. And the
footage was shot right off of a forest service road.
And I mean there's no houses around, there's no one
that builds in that area.

Speaker 3 (49:46):
It's all government land, you know.

Speaker 2 (49:49):
The out there that night because of the weather, the
forestry people that was working around, they had put their
vehicles under the sheets and stuff, and so we did
the same thing. But it wasn't nobody stirring that night
to mount to nothing. You didn't see hardly a vehicle
on the trace. You didn't see a vehicle anywhere out there, hardly,

(50:11):
And I don't know if I had anything to do
with it. I noticed they were working into the wind
when they when we come up on them, they were
working back toward the wind, which have been kind of
a northwest wind or something that night with that stow
them the way it was coming through, and they were
using that to their favor. They could have been very

(50:32):
well hunt or they could have been just traveling. We
you know, I wouldn't think, well, little bitty ones are
small ones or something. You'd have to hold that they would. Uh.
But I don't know how many totally could have been
there in the group either. We just caught three for sure,
and possibly another one. But it could have been a
lot more signatures than that. We just didn't see them.

Speaker 4 (50:54):
And the main thing is is it's regardless on what
you see or or what we are even saying to
take into account, It's all about the big one.

Speaker 5 (51:07):
It's all about that catch. What can we learn off
of this, What can we.

Speaker 4 (51:12):
Do and gather as a community instead of being so divided,
is come together and try and find some answers. And
it's okay, it's okay to disagree. You don't always have
to agree. But let's see if we can't learn from

(51:33):
this film because you know, we're all older. A lot
of these people that go out and actually do research
are older, and we need to pass something onto the
next generation.

Speaker 3 (51:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (51:51):
Absolutely, And I think you guys are doing an amazing job.
And the way you guys work together is want and
just really impressed me. And you guys were able to
capture this footage because of it, why, thank.

Speaker 4 (52:06):
You, because what we're going to do with it. We're
in our sixties, you know. You know, our kids don't
go out, they don't even camp. And to pass this
down for some kind of knowledge as scientific or something.
I don't know how much the government knows, but I

(52:27):
just know how much we know and what can we
learn from this, that's what's most important.

Speaker 3 (52:34):
Yeah, that's all that matters.

Speaker 2 (52:36):
Yes, we was at outing and we had one lady
watch it and came away crying with some closures from
what she had seen. And it was all worth it
at that point where anything else happened.

Speaker 4 (52:49):
Yes, we had been I had received a few emails,
a few messages, and this made it all worthwhile. And
some of our friends that saw it that have had encounters.

Speaker 5 (53:07):
It was thank you for.

Speaker 4 (53:12):
The validation on what I saw, because I have they said,
I have been called a hoaxer. I have been called
different names that I really didn't see it. I saw
a bear. This is exactly what I saw, and thank
you for that validation. And it shows exactly what I saw.

(53:32):
So that made it worthwhile, all of it right there,
and if it gives somebody some kind of closure, even.

Speaker 1 (53:39):
More so, Yeah, it makes it worth it. And it's
nice hearing people with positive feedback and saying that you
helped them out. But you just got to know that
there's also going to be people out there who are saying,
you guys are hoaxers.

Speaker 3 (53:52):
You're lying.

Speaker 1 (53:53):
It's just a person out in the woods, nothing else
to it, Like you're going to get the same typical
feedback channel is. But you guys know what you encountered
that night. You guys know where you were at. You
were at laying between the lakes that's had a lot
of cryptod activity, a lot of people have experienced things there,
and I think that's what it was. There was no
human walking around the woods late at night like that.

(54:15):
It's just too dangerous.

Speaker 2 (54:17):
Oh no way, you know what you don't see, you
don't see him, got no flashlight or strapped around his head.
When I'm walking over in the same area a different day,
was a little bit clear vision. He's still on thermal,
still on the same zoom or not zoomed, and you
can see me holding my cell phone in my hand
because I'm taking acts of the pictures as being taken.

(54:39):
It's why I fied back to the camera in the truck,
which is not in the truck. She couldn't get in
the truck at the time, but she's down low like
taking it down of the truck at the road by
the truck, and I'm taking the pictures from out there
seventy yards away, and I didn't even think I could
even do that. But anyway, you can see my ball cap,

(55:00):
you can see the camera in my hand being a
black object and square. You can see all these different
things that I wish we could show man. We can't
show you, Miguel, but we can't show you know the
public just right now. We hopefully we'll get that worked out.
And it's a lot of things that when we went
back in recont iss thing that took the guess work

(55:21):
out of it being you know this, this and this
into what a human looked like as well as what
this looked like was totally different, and the sizes varies
on what I think the side. All I know is
that the main subject was one size as if it
was a female, And I don't know about how big
a female will be, but whatever came behind it was

(55:44):
huge compared to the middle of the first the main
subject was. It was the one thing that skatered across
behind it. There you could barely see. The outline was
huge compared to the main subject. The little one you
could tell that obviously was littler the subject the outline was.
And when it walked off, it looked to be up
the head of it up to its waist or maybe

(56:05):
between his waist and his or a humans belly button,
and maybe his stomach would be and uh. And it
walked off together, going down a hill in that creek,
and then right back up the creek bank, going away
from us, behind some debris and stuff, so we could
barely see it. The other thing cuts straight across, it

(56:29):
goes behind the same victory, and it goes keeps on
kind of traveling. I guess it's a small bank or
something where he's traveling on, but it's it just keeps
going straight and goes out of sight, and just in
a middlesecond we do ease up the truck a little
further and by then everything that was looking at gone.

Speaker 4 (56:47):
Also this was this was a thermal scope. Who in
the world would be teching out there have aing like
that at shooting.

Speaker 2 (57:03):
Arms if they were poaching. It was no gun in it. It
was no headlight or hand light or anything like that.
Ever to be nothing was seen like that they would
somebody would have.

Speaker 1 (57:14):
Yeah, I agree, And I've noticed when the stars are
out at night and there's no moon and low humidity,
the thermal devices work really well. But when it just rained,
it's really hard to see. I mean, it still works,
but it's not as clear. Like some days it just
looks super good and high quality. In other days it's like, eh,

(57:34):
it's not as good. What kind of device were you
guys using.

Speaker 2 (57:41):
It's a a g M twenty five by three eighty
four Rattler V two. But it's a Ratler V two.
It's like you say, twenty five three eighty four, you
know the they make up to a twelve eighty now
and they got six forty is the next one up?

(58:03):
And Uh, it's a it's it's it's a middle grade
and there I guess you'd say a middle grade scope
in their their division and it's it's. It shows really
well to me. And uh, it's way better than the
one situe we had before. And uh and myself let
people know that these things no matter, they're big money

(58:28):
for most people. Uh. So I use it for a
dual purpose. I didn't want to just buy a handheld
monocular and then couldn't use it for nothing but just that.
So I went ahead and got the rifle scope that
can be used either way, and later on if I
need to get out and do some varmint hunting or something,
then I could take it mounting on my gun. I've

(58:48):
already got the can't leave her uh scope mount on
it and we're actually running on a picka tiny rail
on a tripod. Well, you can use it for a
handhold for it. You know, we can set it up,
but you know, you're not you don't really know what
you're gonna get with. When something's happening that fast, you

(59:08):
just you just can't do all those things you'd like
to be doing, you know. Uh.

Speaker 1 (59:13):
Yeah, it's all good in theory. Until things actually happen.

Speaker 2 (59:16):
Exactly do you get hit in the mouth, you know,
then everything goes away and uh, like I say, we didn't.
Most things happened so fast you don't get but less
than thirty seconds. And then they gone yes.

Speaker 5 (59:31):
To make a decision. You know, you're you're either on
it or you aren't. And thank goodness that there is.

Speaker 4 (59:41):
Platforms like yours, particularly too, that people can go to
and here encounters and maybe learn from that or have
the same experiences and that we are able to.

Speaker 3 (59:58):
Share with Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:00:00):
Absolutely follower anyway, It's.

Speaker 2 (01:00:02):
Most impressive that not only you're a bigod video photographer
and a host, but you actually get out in there
and do the footwork. You have excellent places to get
to go, but you also go public that anybody could
go to and if they follow your channel, they can
see a lot of good tips, a lot of foot time,

(01:00:23):
I mean a lot of time in the field. And
you you know, you do your you do your due
diligence to give you know, to get the best you
can get.

Speaker 3 (01:00:33):
I try to and I appreciate you guys for that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
You know, I applaud you every day that the little
things you come up with, your helmet and different things
you come up with, and I'm thinking about what we
were using that, but we ain't using this, you know.
But it's a very expensive game to play.

Speaker 1 (01:00:50):
Oh yeah, it is. It's highly expensive. You can waste
a lot of money too.

Speaker 2 (01:00:57):
Yeah, just travel a loans is expensive. But to have
the electory items to go with it, it's it's expensive
to we have very little knowledge. We learned all the
time on the computer. Now when you get it back
home and try to do something, that's a whole new
ball game. I mean, just getting on the thing is
one time we get it downloaded and put in files

(01:01:17):
and all the audio she goes through. It takes a
good little bit of time to do all that.

Speaker 3 (01:01:23):
No, yeah, a lot. It takes a lot of time.

Speaker 4 (01:01:25):
I was just going to say that also that when
you go and you bring this kind of evidence back,
you know, not everybody is able to work with it,
or not willing to work with it, or a little
uncertain to work with or just don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:01:46):
How, and you don't know what you're you're limited. You're limited.

Speaker 4 (01:01:54):
And thank goodness, I mean I almost I almost contacted
you on this for your yeah, for your help, because
there the knowledge isn't out there.

Speaker 5 (01:02:09):
Or the guts to be able to post something like this.

Speaker 1 (01:02:14):
Yeah, absolutely, and I'm glad you contacted me. I actually
was out there with the researcher. This was a few
years back. We got some thermal and some knocks and
rock clocks and a structure area that we were researching.
We went back two weeks after that event and we
were sitting there trying to get the same thing to

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happen again, and I panned over and I saw one
crawling through a conservation field, coming right at us. And
I thought at first it was a juvenile sasquatch, but
then I realized, like, this thing looks human. It looked
like a like a naked, bald guy crawling on all fours,
coming right at us. And I was so shocked that
I never hit record on the thermal device. It just

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happened so fast, Like I panned over there it is,
I'm looking at it. My eyes get really and then
it notices us, like sitting in the pines, and it
throws its head up to the left and crawls off
the opposite direction. But that freaked me out. I think
it was a crawler, like they call them rakes. But
at first I thought it was like a sasquatch. But

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there are other things out there in the woods. And
when you have these devices, sometimes you'll be so shocked
that you'll forget the hit record exactly.

Speaker 5 (01:03:25):
We just happen to have that opportunity.

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
It's the best thing in the world if you can
get it on like our ardio, she has it on
before we leave the truck. You don't, seems, like you
said so many times, soon as you open the door
and step out right before you can get your stuff
together and turn it on, and that's when you're gonna
get something to happen. And that makes me believe it's
a lot of things going on while we're pulling through

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the woods getting to our stopping point ahead of us
that we never catch them because they already signaling, and
the ones in the woods that here we come, we
got somebody's coming, intruders on the way or whatever, and
you just never catch it. Therefore, you have to sneak
in there to find a way to put a drop box,
then drive back in there a little later and see
if they actually ratting you out before you ever get there.

Speaker 5 (01:04:11):
Right.

Speaker 4 (01:04:12):
And another thing is too is like I said, about
being prepared. Also, just like you had said, you were
so shocked the eyes widen, And my understanding from some
fellow researchers that have been in the business that basically
been doing this for many, many years, said, look, pat,

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they can see just as well at night as we
can during the day. They saw every movie that you
were making. I don't know that to be a fact,
but what I do know is, like you said, your
eyes got wide, different things like that, and they crawled
off in the other direction.

Speaker 5 (01:04:56):
We forget to hit record.

Speaker 4 (01:04:58):
You have the equipment said sitting there, example is like
what happened to you? I was just basically trying to
keep it together. I wasn't so much scared afraid. I
didn't I was having a hard time processing what I
was looking at. It was trying to remember all the

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things that you need to do in order when you
lock onto.

Speaker 5 (01:05:27):
A subject like this.

Speaker 4 (01:05:28):
Like the only thing I did remember to do in
the documenting was to state what I was looking at.
Those are the things that are important, because it's so easy,
your mind is so blown, it's so easy to forget
those things after the fact. So if you run across something,

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this is something I can pass on, start stating what
you were actually looking at into the camera and get
a record.

Speaker 5 (01:06:00):
That's that.

Speaker 3 (01:06:01):
Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 1 (01:06:02):
One thing I noticed with both of our thermal footages
as our reactions, like the cursing, And that was like
the first thing I said when I saw this was
like crap. Well I didn't say crap, but you know
what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:06:16):
Yeah, No, I mean it's it's a reaction that she
only does it during at a very surprised time, and
and you know it happens to all of us, but
I will say this, it helps us. You may mention
us working together. All she really has to do when
it's just me and her is hold it out the

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window when she gets on the subject, just hold it
on it and and it's up to me to zoom
in or out. She tells me, zoom and Joe or
zoom out. Joe. I could work the brightness. I could
work some of the contrasts. I don't really do all that,
but I need to get it over on the video
part of the camera that's on my phone. The dashboard

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on my phone is showing all it just like you
would be. But then you ain't got to worry about
your fingers on top and going back and looking, because
you're gonna get so thumbfuzzled that you're not gonna remember
whether you know the zoom in, zoom out, or any
of that stuff on top of that camera. The way
it sets up for most of them, like hours and
yours probably does the same thing at them, little raise

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buttons on top, and it makes it easier for her
for her just concentrate on one thing and let me record,
let me zoom in or zoo let zoom out whatever,
and that really that really helped it. That would be
we've probably been another minute, kind of turn it on
from the camera now.

Speaker 4 (01:07:39):
Another thing, Another thing too is how many times have
you heard were experienced? And I even said to Bud
when he was outside he went to look away to
talk to to the other gentleman that was out there,

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don't look away. Don't look away, because that's the first
thing that happens, you hear everybody. I looked away for
a second and then it was gone.

Speaker 2 (01:08:10):
You're so lucky.

Speaker 1 (01:08:11):
Yeah, that's what happened with my thermal footage. I looked
away and then it was completely gone. You hear that
with people that actually lay eyes on a big foot
during the day, they said. When they looked away and
look back, the creature was gone. And that's what they're
waiting for. They're waiting for you just to look away
for a moment so they can make their next move.

Speaker 2 (01:08:29):
Right exactly, this one here just had a responsibility of
other ones with it. It couldn't just if it been
by itself. It could have done that what you just said,
It just any movement we've done well. When they heard
them breaks go off, next truck move just to tad bit,
it was time for it to cut a shut or
whatever you want to say, and the whole clan could

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move then, you know, because they didn't want to leave
nobody behind. I don't think they was on the same page.
If you got like one or two trying to pull
out your arms, just say one the one on the
ground in front of you. That's two responsibility, youth, would
you perhaps? And then another one behind you might be
old dad, but we don't know that. And the she

(01:09:11):
just had lots of responsibility that they she would have
made that esteatetent. We probably first got there.

Speaker 4 (01:09:17):
Well, we were given the opportunity of movement is basically
what it was. But if we could, like I said.
The purpose of this, of releasing this is this is
a learning video. Is to learn from it. That's what's
most important.

Speaker 1 (01:09:37):
Yeah, I learned a lot for sure. Never give up
and just go out there and do research. I mean,
it's easy to just get down on yourself when you're
out there in the woods. And I'm sure you guys
have experienced that. You go out a bunch of times
and nothing at all happens, And even if you go
to like known hotspot areas, it's just like, what the heck?
I spent a lot of time, a lot of money,

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a lot of hours and nothing exactly right.

Speaker 2 (01:10:02):
Do you always hear about the other guy They were
going down the road and one run across blah blah blah.
And I'm thinking Fat's saying the same thing. Why don't
they that ever happening to us? We in the middle
of the night, two old people, nobody would believe anyway,
Why don't they run across the roads in front of
us or something? And they haven't. But I mean until
this thing happened. But you just don't never know when

(01:10:25):
your times call your day. I mean, you just don't
know when you're when you gonna hit the lottery or
if it's such a thing. I don't know if that's
a good thing to say, but it's kind of you know,
you just don't know when you're you get your times
up for to see these things. And we all hear
if you see one, you're gonna you know, you might
get in that loop. Will you see more than one
down the road or one or two down the road

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or something? We don't know that. I know it took
sixty something years to find the first one, if that's
what that is, a doll man, it took sixty years
to get the first one on camera. So I don't
see us doing another one no time soon exactly our
lifetime anyway, exactly.

Speaker 5 (01:11:02):
This is our bingo.

Speaker 4 (01:11:04):
This is the time where we're able to talk and
enjoy one another's company. It's just something that we have
an interest in and it's it's kind of like our
hobby that we are able to do together. You have
to be able to be able to enjoy what you're doing,
and we enjoy going out and into the woods and

(01:11:26):
into nature and seeing the different things. And that's what's
most important, is enjoying life as well.

Speaker 1 (01:11:37):
Absolutely, don't go out there looking for sasquatch specifically, if
you don't enjoy nature, you're not going to enjoy doing
research exactly.

Speaker 5 (01:11:47):
Issu.

Speaker 2 (01:11:48):
If you ain't got no signal, you don't have no
fill phone, you don't have no computer issues. Yeah, time
to talk, time to love, time to come back into
real world where you're supposed to be anyway, and you're
just out there doing your thing, and you never know,
Lulla hole, something might come back and give you, give
you an hour, a squall or anything. You don't never know.

Speaker 4 (01:12:10):
And this is not the only place that we go to,
you know, we we spend a lot of time in Alabama.
We have a private residence that we go to once
a year that we have a lot of activity that
we enjoy going. We go camp out in the national forest.

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We went from a tent, which we still have all
that camping equipment, to a camper and we're able to
you know, we have all the year to go with it,
so we're able to go boom dock and be quite comfortable.

Speaker 3 (01:12:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:12:49):
That sounds amazing. And it's rough sometimes camping in the woods,
and it's like, oh man, this is pretty hard on
the body. But when you look back on it, you're like,
I'm really glad I did that.

Speaker 5 (01:13:00):
Yes, exactly right, exactly exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:13:03):
And we're not above you know, going out and walking
and and tent camping.

Speaker 5 (01:13:09):
It's just that, you know, we kind of don't have to,
I mean, not on that. Yeah, we're not. Yeah, this
this way, hey, we can do both.

Speaker 3 (01:13:21):
Yeah, absolutely, as long as you're out there right.

Speaker 2 (01:13:25):
I noticed you on the Old Man's Place over where
you was. You were doing it out of the camper,
you and your pup and all, and I was saying
the same thing about it. You know, it's all right
to camp, you know, rub bone can't camp and all that,
but it's also hard to do it that way too.
That way you have some amenities or whatever, get out
of the cold, rain, the heat, whatever you're running into.

Speaker 1 (01:13:47):
Yeah, I enjoy campers, Anton's I mean, it's all the
same to me, as long as I'm out there in
the middle of nowhere with no cell phone signal.

Speaker 4 (01:13:55):
Exactly exactly. Put those cell phones down and go out
in the woods.

Speaker 2 (01:14:00):
You know, a lot of some of our peers will
go camping, just lean back in the trucks, eat and
stay there all night and do it for days. That's
not necessarily what I like. But some of our peers
do that. I mean some of them like Hammock camping.
Some of them like to go clin ten miles back
in Hammitck Camp. We got all kinds of people out

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there that we know does is everything. But what we
normally go to be honest with Miguel, if you go
a little piece in the woods, it'll be another ridge
and another road. If you know, it's like a national
forest that has a big road net and you don't
get very far, you'll be over to the next road net.
You don't get I mean, it's just like on and
on back to back like that. There's nothing to take

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off one road net, walk through the woods, little pieces
come out on another road net with a food plot
over there. Just cut when you drive when you can't
drive in you just cut crossland to some of our
things we go to and sometimes we get lucky find
a track or get would not or something. You never know.

Speaker 4 (01:15:02):
You have to put the work in. You have to
put the work in. We've had several experiences. We've had
we've we've had several experiences and we have learned a
lot of times just sit around the fire, they'll come
to you.

Speaker 1 (01:15:17):
Yeah, sometimes that's the best tactic. And Pat and Joe,
if you guys would tell me about some of your
encounters and experiences, like what got you guys into this?
I know you said that you had a bigfoot encounter
in the past.

Speaker 4 (01:15:30):
Oh, we had went with a small channel. I uh,
Joe and I meant actually we were in the same
channel years ago, and she decided to have a little
get together at falk Arkansas. I was in Cincinnati, Ohio

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at the time, which I still own a home up there,
and we were all just really good friends, a really
tight group. The woman was on late at night and
we all got together and we went to falc Arkansas.
It was mostly women there for several days. The night

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Joe came in on a Friday night on Thursday night.
With us women camping there, what we would do is
we would go to bed late. We would go to
bed about ten o'clock at night. We go into our
tents and we would sit and watch out the tent
and talk to one another. Well, the one on Thursday

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night was sitting there and I laid down in the tent.
We could hear all of a sudden something running through camp.
It was a it was a full moon those few nights.
It was running past the tent and it was hitting
my tent as it ran by. There was a camper there.

(01:17:04):
They tried to they were messing with the knob on
the camper, but after the third time of pushing my
tent down, it went down into my face there that time,
and it kind of unnerved me.

Speaker 5 (01:17:18):
There quite a bit.

Speaker 4 (01:17:19):
But what she had me do, she had me get
out of the tent come over there with her, and
she said, let's walk to the woodline. So we walked
to the woodline and she said tell him, tell him
to stop. And did you know, it didn't happen the
rest of the night. But the following day, Joe is
in another tent and he's right next to He set

(01:17:44):
up its tent right next to us, and there was
a tent in front of us, both in between, and
I was sitting there. We went to bed, I'm sitting there.
The one girl had left the light on. She didn't
know how to shut it off, and Joe was already
in their sleep. She didn't have a tent, so he

(01:18:05):
shared the tent with her when she had come down,
because it was just had him and he had room
for and her and I had been up and we
both went to bed, and I'm sitting there looking out
my tent window and I watched one crawl up to

(01:18:26):
where Joe was sleeping, and he was playing the sleeping
camper and it washed up and it tried to touch Joe,
and I was so excited I had to say something.

Speaker 5 (01:18:39):
I wasn't scared. It crawled up between the two tents.

Speaker 4 (01:18:43):
They heard it right next to him crawling up, and
I said, I said, I see you, and it backed
up and it was gone for a few minutes. Then
I watched it crawl back up and I couldn't contain myself.
I had to say something again. But I saw the
arms hanging down. It appeared to be maybe six foot.

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As it was crawling, it was smaller. I believed that
it was probably a juvenile. It looked like it, and
I did see the.

Speaker 5 (01:19:18):
Hair on the arms hanging down.

Speaker 4 (01:19:20):
And when I said something to it again, it.

Speaker 5 (01:19:24):
Backed away and it was gone.

Speaker 4 (01:19:28):
I did get like I said, I saw through the moonlight.
It was more of a silhouette. I was able to
make out some features, not a lot, but I definitely
saw it.

Speaker 5 (01:19:43):
Right there. I was probably.

Speaker 4 (01:19:47):
I would say maybe fifteen seventeen feet away from it,
so I got a pretty good look at it. We
have camped in the net National Forest. We have had
our camper shook in the middle of the you know,
at night. I hollered at him and they stopped, which

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was very unusual. I said, I don't know what to do.
I'm thinking to myself and I said, well, I just
I heard him walking up. We were getting ready for bed.
Joe was already in bed in the camper. We were
in the back of the campground. We were lucky in
this forest, you're lucky to see one car a day.

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And it was not a person that was out there.
I heard it walk past the camper. It was brushing
up against the camper. It was heavy, whatever it was,
because I had the window open to the kitchen, the
kitchen window there, and it walked past it, and it
walked over to the door. And then as it was

(01:20:54):
coming back you could hear the movement. Joe said, get
in bed here and he and.

Speaker 5 (01:21:03):
As it was.

Speaker 4 (01:21:04):
Coming back, Joe beat on the wall and all of
a sudden, everything started shaking on the camper. I didn't
know how to react, knew I knew what it was.
I was afraid that it would climb up on the
ladder and get on the roof, and so I hollered
in the mom voice with being a boy mom, I

(01:21:27):
just hollered at him to knock it off and stuff,
and it stopped. I don't know if I did it
or it just did it on its own. But had
that happen we've had. I have a lot of recordings
of them coming up to the camper and whistling and
rock clacking and some vocalizations. A lot of that relatively

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close we have had in the past.

Speaker 1 (01:21:57):
Yeah, that's amazing. It makes me wonder how many times
I've been ca and these creatures approached my tent and
I just had no idea.

Speaker 5 (01:22:05):
Oh they don't they do.

Speaker 2 (01:22:07):
At zoom or something out there for you can hear them.
You ain't gonna You're just not gonna know. Really, I
don't know how many times you've done it, because I
know you in the woods could be it. Some of
my experiences, like when I'm out deer hunt doing some
different things, I'd hear wood knocks, and one particular time
I didn't really know what wood knocks was, So I'm
sure they might have been around a lot longer, you know,

(01:22:28):
back my younger days. But I didn't know what I
was hearing. But I was educated on TV, like most
of us had watch some of the shows on TV.
Was talking about woodknocks and all. We went out and
I was hunting by myself, and uh got on the
ground out of a stand. I went on over a
little piece over and it made me a little blind

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and it started, you know, hitting horns and hitting the
grunk call and kind of working up a little a
little rattling, you know, rattle up a deer scenario. Well
out there for one of me in a little ways,
I heard a knock sounded like and then at about
a forty five from that out there, about the same
distance one, I answered it right back, and I hadn't

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that was that was in morningtime. Actually it was about
nine o'clock. So I just said, you know, I don't
know for sure, but I think I know what that is.
So I just eased up, got all my stuff and
put it back in my backpack and I went on
back to the truck. I said, I'll let you have
it today. Then I worked two days because I worked
shift work, and the friday when I was stepping on

(01:23:30):
the stand and getting the stand. I had her wood
knock across the field and I heard it plain a day.
You know, it's good long ways away, but the wind
was going out of south browing it back to me
and I was able to hear it, and I said, Dan,
they're watching me clothes. I can't even get in the stand.
And that season I had a few things and a
few cody or owls. It sounded weird, and really I

(01:23:53):
didn't have nothing for a little while, but going into
the Turkey season, I had a wood knock or two
darn pre scout before Turkey season. Then every now and
then I'd have just one like whistle like something was
slipping up on me when I was just blind collaring
or something not not to be on a hot bird
or anything. Just go out there and find a little

(01:24:14):
spot and uh like say blind up in there and
just do a little little soft collar and I have
you'd hear every now and you hear something whistle at
you just so one little I said, I think I
know what this is too. That's another one that the
tell tale. And I had that several times, and let's said,
I try to report that to the guff coats whatever

(01:24:37):
their thing is, the tree knocks and now I was
finding to report it to the Gulf Coast h Bigfoot Organization,
and I talked to them a little bit on email,
and I was not an email literc person at all,
and that really didn't go very far. And I don't
know if they ever went and looked at it or
kicked it out or not. But later on, you know,

(01:25:01):
years go by, and that that kind of slowed down.
I don't know if the they were in there, because
the deer were in there, the acorings was good. I
don't know if any of that was part of it,
but they were in the wood kind of in behind
the property we have, and there was a creep back
there too, you know, following the creeks could have been
a thing too with it. But that died down, and
I haven't had much uh in a while. Then Miss

(01:25:24):
pat comes along and she had something holler at her
up there, and uh, I can't leave her nowhere by herself,
because she she's gonna get into something, something gonna get
after her or something. But we had different things happen,
and we went to started actually getting out looking and
we run across uh, on the government landing and we

(01:25:44):
went across the government pond that they was having hid rodeos.
You know once a year they had the they put
catfish in the pond and had the kids come without
you know, anybody and fishing and without a license. But
it's a fish day and all that bring all the
kids out. And then we ran in some some boogers

(01:26:04):
down there around that fonk and that was an interesting thing.
That was some of the best even everything else. That's
some of the I tell her like that as much
as I have anything we've done, because they've we got
to hurt our first mouth pop. It was just very
few feet away, you know. Then we we were loading
up to leave and while we're leaving the truck to
hear another a couple of pops. Sounded like it could

(01:26:27):
be the knock the mouth pops while we're driving off,
because we left thermals. Every time we get down to
that place before we leave and eating time, i'd pick
right up to the dark or a little after and
then uh we'd have something on our thermal before we left,
but then we'd have stuff to out the night. Uh.
It was phenomenal for them being in there for the

(01:26:50):
little time they was, and then by the next spring
they went in there and burned the whole area, and
the and the boogers moved right and we caught them
one more time that we know of up the road.
A little piece that had a little soft knock come
back one day, and then they went in there and
chopped that out underneath those big trees. They went in

(01:27:10):
there with a chopping machine, chopped all that down to nothing,
and we have we lost that bunch and we haven't
ever been able to find them again. I don't know
where they went. I guess filing water or ponds or
something around there, but we haven't ran across them again.
We looked around there every now and then, and we
didn't go back this year. But that's some of my experiences.

(01:27:30):
We have more. We had stuff this year. That's a
lot of weird house and things. But that's just something
we usually have. Something We've been a little lucky over
the years. We usually have something happening, you know, if
we get out, do any calls, if we do anything
at all, or Tyoti calls or something. Sometimes we don't
have some house come back. That's that's weird, and they'll

(01:27:53):
be definitely not cold that way, it sounds right.

Speaker 4 (01:27:56):
We at the pond saying we've We didn't know when
we had gone out there that they were even going
to have a rodeo.

Speaker 5 (01:28:07):
We found out when we came back to go pick
up our audio recorder.

Speaker 4 (01:28:13):
But what we would do we spent We followed them
for almost a year and it got to the point
is what we would do is we would hear them
and we would record basically, you know, live right there,
and plus we would drop a recorder at the same time,

(01:28:36):
so we were hearing, you know, in real time and
also recording it and also having a recorder that we
would leave.

Speaker 5 (01:28:45):
Was that way we.

Speaker 4 (01:28:46):
Could take another one with us and study. But we
basically followed them for almost a year, and we were
getting knocks when we came out.

Speaker 5 (01:28:57):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:28:58):
I wanted to take it very slow. I never approached
the woods or anything like that. I was wanting to
just get build up a trust, if you were able
to build up one. I just wanted to study and
take everything very very slow. What they do is they
had to burn they had different things. Now we have

(01:29:19):
left them alone for a while, we need to go back.
It's the time of year that we need to be
back out there. But we've been out and about in
other locations. We've had you know, Joe has even done
an elk call simulated that with a uh what was that?

(01:29:40):
A mouth call and and a bat you know, a plastic.

Speaker 7 (01:29:45):
Pit, right, and that putting back in the truck because
we had one holler back and it was it was
through a clear cut, and it sounded pretty wicked because
I suspected it was there.

Speaker 4 (01:29:58):
Because out of with these pine forests, you can't always say, hey,
this is a structure I found in all the time
that I have actually been out, I can say that
this was a structure and it pointed to everything that
we needed to believe that.

Speaker 5 (01:30:16):
They were there.

Speaker 4 (01:30:18):
So and we could go on and on and on,
but we have done a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:30:23):
Actually, those sound like some amazing experiences, and I can
see why you guys are into the topic. And yeah,
these things are out there, and they can be in
a million different areas and sometimes they just come through
when you least.

Speaker 5 (01:30:36):
Expect it exactly exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:30:41):
So what are your plans here in the future with
the research. You've already caught this thermal footage. Where are
you guys going to go from here.

Speaker 5 (01:30:52):
Well, we're headed back to LBL.

Speaker 4 (01:30:55):
I think that we basically just like to hang out
with our friends too, and we'll go to you know,
in different in some of the channels you know that
we're involved with that we go in or follow We
have made friends with some people. We take off when

(01:31:15):
we go to Tennessee, we take I think, but we're
headed to Land between the Lakes. We just come back
from Alabama at a camp out just last weekend, actually
a weekend before last. We just got back last week.
We'll be heading back out towards that way the end

(01:31:38):
of September, and then we go where there's a couple
of places, and then we're going to go to a
private residence at the end of September as well, that
that we go every year. That it's set up for
us to go there, that he has activity there.

Speaker 1 (01:31:56):
That's amazing. Well, if you guys capture anything else in
the future, let me know. And I thought you guys
did an amazing job at relaying your experiences. And yeah,
like I said, that thermal footage was incredible and you
guys should be proud of yourselves.

Speaker 5 (01:32:12):
Thank you very much, Miguel, Thank.

Speaker 2 (01:32:14):
You you never know who my cross pass one day.
You never know.

Speaker 3 (01:32:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:32:22):
Absolutely, If you guys ever want a camp, let me
know and I'd be more than happy to.

Speaker 5 (01:32:27):
Well, if you ever want to head down to the
Louisiana holler at us, yes and we'll show you the sites.

Speaker 3 (01:32:36):
Okay, that sounds good me all right?

Speaker 1 (01:32:40):
Well, I appreciate you guys, and if you have any questions,
feel free to reach out. And if you want to
send me more footage, just send it through Facebook or
email or however we can do it.

Speaker 5 (01:32:50):
Okay, Okay, let.

Speaker 4 (01:32:53):
Me look to see what I sent you.

Speaker 5 (01:32:55):
You know, you can.

Speaker 2 (01:32:58):
What I send you.

Speaker 4 (01:32:59):
You can share it or just save it for yourself
to kind of go over it, you know some instant.

Speaker 5 (01:33:05):
You know, I tried to what I did try and
send you. I'm going, okay, we are the.

Speaker 4 (01:33:10):
Real deal, because I'm sure you get every nut job
there is to get, yeah, along the way, I'm sure
you've got several of those. And like I said, you
we have friends that you have that have been on,
that have told their experiences on there as well.

Speaker 5 (01:33:28):
We know pj oh.

Speaker 3 (01:33:32):
And her husband are really good people.

Speaker 5 (01:33:35):
They are they are very good people. I'm friends.

Speaker 4 (01:33:38):
I'm pretty good friends with her. And there's and and Victoria.
You know Victoria.

Speaker 3 (01:33:45):
Yeah, I've been on show before.

Speaker 5 (01:33:47):
Oh yes, I know.

Speaker 4 (01:33:48):
She wanted me to co host with her. And I
don't want to spend the time doing that. I want
to get out and about. I don't want to be
tied down. But we highly respect you. We thank you
for everything that you you do, and we follow you religiously.
I do post in your chats as I told you,

(01:34:11):
I'm I'm blue eyed Northern.

Speaker 3 (01:34:14):
So okay, that's.

Speaker 4 (01:34:17):
Everything, and and yes I follow you and i' and
you always respond back, and uh, it's wonderful, and we
we really enjoy your channel, and thank you for getting
out there doing the work. Very much respected because you
not only try. You don't try and tell us what
to see or what to do. You show us what

(01:34:40):
you're doing. You know, whether it's and the results which
is great. Sometimes it works out, sometimes it doesn't, doesn't it.

Speaker 1 (01:34:51):
Yeah, absolutely, And all you can do is try, and
you can't please everyone, and sometimes you're even disappointed in yourself.

Speaker 3 (01:34:59):
So that's how right.

Speaker 4 (01:35:01):
You know what, when we put this out, we were
prepared for any kind of negativity. We're prepared for that
we know that as soon as we were going to
put it out. That's why it was so hard to
find somebody to try and help us with different things,
because I think they were afraid of it some of them.

Speaker 5 (01:35:25):
Or just didn't really know what to do with it.

Speaker 4 (01:35:27):
But we have found that we have been more true
to ourselves and better off because we didn't like the
stabilization that was done because and we have some people
that knew how to do it, but we didn't like
the way it worked out, so we chose to leave

(01:35:47):
it wrong.

Speaker 1 (01:35:48):
Yeah, I think that's the better choice. And I mean
it when I said that you guys should be proud
of yourselves. I'm a thermal device owner, and when I
saw that, I was like, that's pretty darn good because
you can spend thousands of dollars on a thermal device,
and like, when you're looking through the trees, it's just
hard to tell what it is, and in your case,

(01:36:09):
you can definitely tell that it's Harry. It's bipedal, it's
way bigger than any man. And yeah, I thought it
was pretty incredible. So I'm glad that you guys contacted
me because I own a thermal device and that's The
first thing I thought was like, okay, this is pretty good.

Speaker 4 (01:36:26):
Well, we were thank you very much because we were
pretty much at our wits end on trying to even
get help, because you know, the thing is, I'm sure
you've run across this before yourself, Miguel is if it's
not if it's not theirs, they really don't want to
fool with it, you know, you get that, or they

(01:36:46):
don't really. Oh they say they can do something with it,
but they really can't.

Speaker 1 (01:36:53):
I'm just used to getting like the paradolia photos that
are taken with cell phones and it's just like, oh yeah,
something that's repetitive. So when I saw this, I was like, Okay,
this is the real deal. This is an AGM device.
You can tell that it's something big, Like, it's good.

Speaker 3 (01:37:09):
I like it.

Speaker 4 (01:37:11):
Why thank you that that that means a lot coming
from you, and we learned from you actually, So keep
keep doing what you're doing because we're learning and we're
having success on the things that you do.

Speaker 2 (01:37:24):
So yep, I mean you got a little tidbits that
we can add to our arsenal that we'd like to have,
and then you got a lot of really you got
a good bunch of places to go and then follow
up on your story and and uh we followed the
people were still following, you know, the boneyard, the area

(01:37:44):
and all that. Would you go in and doing all
that stuff. It's just it's phenomenal have really good private
areas to go.

Speaker 6 (01:37:51):
Uh yeah, uh, you know, we we try to keep
up with your shows and first one thing another with
all that and talk just fits your criteria, you know,
for what you'd like to pass on to the folks.

Speaker 2 (01:38:05):
And now, plus you know you've got some very good
dog Win like photos. It possibly could be one too,
So it's almost like you took your photo and added
two hours or video. It is like it blowns together. Yeah,
that makes sense.

Speaker 1 (01:38:21):
I thought the same thing as well. I mean it's like, yeah,
the same scenario basically. And I look up to you guys.
I think what you guys captured is way better than
anything I've ever gotten. So I'm learning from you guys.

Speaker 2 (01:38:34):
You got a lot of You've got a lot of
sightings and stuff though, and that really goes a long ways.
I mean, it changed your life. I often say, I
hope it don't ever change my life, but it does
it will. Yeah, I mean, you always, once you see something,
you can't un see it, and you know, even though
something is so for most of us, it was so

(01:38:55):
crazy to think this possibly could be a thing. And
you know, we was on the channel just the other day,
and her channel's way off from what normal channels are
and nothing. It was almost to the point that made
our little fine seeing like just playing Jane.

Speaker 5 (01:39:13):
It was on Jessica's but that's okay.

Speaker 2 (01:39:16):
I was glad because you didn't have nobody taking it
the wrong way and try to go crazy off phone
you or anything like that. We need, we need to
build up a positive rapport and you know that a
lot of people just I don't know, this is weird
about things.

Speaker 4 (01:39:32):
So I hope you can put something together with that,
because we did fumble up there some. But but I'm
sure you'll work your magic and make it turn out
pretty good.

Speaker 1 (01:39:42):
Absolutely, And if you guys ever want to use my
thermal footage for comparison, feel free to use it.

Speaker 5 (01:39:47):
I don't care, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:39:50):
You know, it's it's not a case that we even
care about that kind of stuff, but give us credit
for it at least, you know, because somebody like Jessica
said somebody's going to steal it, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:40:02):
Oh yeah, people steal my videos all the time. They
post them up on Rumble, and I know they've been
doing the same with like the hell bet well they
do it the same, like the same with other YouTube channels.
They'll steal the entire video and just like claim it's.

Speaker 5 (01:40:17):
Theirs, right do you? I'll tell you where we go.

Speaker 4 (01:40:23):
And somebody would be great for you to interview would
be flat Rock.

Speaker 3 (01:40:27):
Never heard of them?

Speaker 5 (01:40:29):
Oh you never heard of flat Rock? Book for flat Rock?
Oh my goodness, some little something something, Oh you would, you.

Speaker 4 (01:40:36):
Would, because we do go there and people do go there,
and we have had we we do all kinds of
stuff there and they there's three of us are women.
There's women that go there that normally that he doesn't get,
and we get a lot of response, and we do
believe it's because we're women. We even did an experiment

(01:40:59):
where one of our friends, she was a trained classical singer,
and we had her listen to one of his audios
and yell and had her match it. She walked to
the edge of the woods and it sounded like roll call,
and one was right in front of her and screamed

(01:41:20):
back at her.

Speaker 1 (01:41:22):
Oh wow, Yeah, I definitely believe they're attracted to women children.
I think it'd be cool to have a girl out
there singing and playing like acoustic guitar. I think that
might peak their curiosity.

Speaker 4 (01:41:34):
Well, I'll tell you what I'm gonna do, and if
I get results, I'm going to come back to you.

Speaker 5 (01:41:39):
I want to. And here's something to look into. Is
the calling. It's k u l n I n G.

Speaker 4 (01:41:47):
It's that Swedish cow calling where they were where it's
ancient as where they call out to the cows to
come in from It can reach like miles to come
in to be milked at night and stuff. I think
that would be kind of something interesting to use. I'm

(01:42:08):
gonna I'm gonna work on that one. But yeah, I
think you would be interested in flat Rock because we
go there and they're active there and we get their
attention when we go there. For some reason, they dislike us.
They come up to us pretty dark, close to the camper.

(01:42:28):
They'll come up to the camper and to our area
and right there at night when we're when we.

Speaker 2 (01:42:35):
Go to bed.

Speaker 5 (01:42:37):
So I mean I've recorded them right on top of us.
So but we are in We are like what seventy
nine eighty miles.

Speaker 4 (01:42:46):
From south of Shreeport. If you ever come down this way,
we're in Kasachi National Forest.

Speaker 5 (01:42:53):
You know, holler at us.

Speaker 1 (01:42:55):
Okay, Yeah, that sounds good to me. And if I
ever go down Louisiana, I'll keep that in mind. Or
if you guys are ever in Arkansas, maybe we can
meet halfway anything.

Speaker 4 (01:43:05):
Sure, we've gone up to Mina and stuff like that.
You know, we get up that way with I think
she has the blue line zip line.

Speaker 5 (01:43:15):
She has them.

Speaker 4 (01:43:16):
She has them there and she has like a little
big bigfoot things go on, but she has them on
her property. And we sometimes we'll go We've gone up
there in camp before too as well, you know. So,
but it was wonderful. Thank you so much. I hope
you can do something with this mess we just handed you.

Speaker 1 (01:43:35):
No, I appreciate it and I'll definitely be able to
work with it. So yeah, Pat, Joe, I really appreciate
you guys. Thank you so much.

Speaker 5 (01:43:43):
Hey, thank you keep in touch. Okay, yeah, absolutely, okay,
thank you, Michael.

Speaker 3 (01:43:48):
Thank you, and you guys have an excellent day.

Speaker 1 (01:43:50):
Okay, all right, Pat and Joe, thank you very much
for sharing your thermal footage with me here on sasquatch theory,
and I started believe that what you guys filmed is
a cryptid creature, and I am glad you guys didn't
pursue it because you never know what could happen. There's
been some horrifying encounters that have taken place at the

(01:44:12):
Land between the Lakes, and I filmed similar in the
Mark Twain National Forest on an investigation one time, and
it just looks really similar to what you guys captured.
And for those listening, I will leave a link to
that video and the description down below and on the
end screen when this video ends. It almost makes me

(01:44:35):
wonder if the cryptid creatures were gugways, because you said
you thought that possibly it was a dog man, and
I said it could have been bigfoot. But the more
I analyze the video footage, it kind of does remind
me of a gugway, and a gugway is similar to
a dog man and a bigfoot, but it kind of
looks like a grizzly bear on two legs and they

(01:44:57):
are extremely territorial and they are just a different type
of cryptid creature. But yeah, for those listening. If you
guys can, please like the video, subscribe to the channel
calming down below, and if you want to help future investigations,
feel free to leave a donation. Thank you everyone so
much for the support. It really means a lot that

(01:45:19):
people are listening and watching these videos, and this thermal
footage definitely motivates me to get out in the woods
and it reminds me that it is possible to get
these things on film and you can catch them off guard.
But yeah, with all that being said, thank you everyone
for listening, and until the next one, be safe out
in the forest.

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