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August 25, 2025 62 mins
In this exclusive interview, Tim shares his personal encounters with Bigfoot on family land in Madison County, Missouri — an area known for intense Sasquatch activity. Tim admits he once doubted the stories of strange creatures told by others, but his skepticism turned to belief after his own chilling experiences. He recalls seeing a massive figure in the woods at night, its eyes glowing silver when caught in his flashlight beam. He and his family also witnessed a group of Sasquatch crossing the St. Francis River at a fishing spot known as the Catfish Hole. Tim describes ongoing encounters near their camper, where the creatures harass them from the darkness. Even his children are now having experiences, suggesting this phenomenon has haunted the property for generations. What are these mysterious beings roaming the forests of Missouri? And why do they keep returning to this same area?

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Well, I've been on the properties for a long time.
You know, me at last has been married for forty years.
So I say, when I was a small kid, Uh,
we used to come down with swimming right there.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
And they always told.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
Me, when you know we first uh Dayton and first
got married, I always talked about strange things that happened here.
And I was like everybody else, yeah right, you know,
you know, but then when Grandma would call and say
it's it's back. She's seen the silver guy, you know,

(00:47):
the big guy. One time she said it it had
big thunderstorm and they had that white picket fence along
the front of the yard, and she said it was
every time the life and was struck. She'd see the
lightning shine down on this tall, big person. And she said,

(01:10):
have had like silver back, and she said, just like
glow white.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
You were there when she called you guys and told.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
You, yeah, we come over here. We haven't seen nothing.
She's scared.

Speaker 3 (01:21):
What'd you think at that point?

Speaker 1 (01:23):
Uh, you know, it's got to be somebody you know,
messing around. You know, was nothing here? You know, I
came out here in the rain, looked around. I didn't
seen nothing, you know, no, no, evidence of anything even
being around.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
There was.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
There were a lot of things that it's been going
on for years. You know, it goes back before you
know when uh, the guy that drowned in the creek
ret behind us and they said there wasnt no water
in his lungs.

Speaker 3 (01:55):
What do you think happened to him?

Speaker 1 (01:57):
What I think happened to him? Somebody? He was a
very nice guy. They told me, you know, he had
a lot of tools and he got a check every month.
And I think that he was over there in that
red shed, and that red shed's been here for years,
sixties plus years.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
Or more, and I think somebody came by.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
Here and knew he got paid and asking him the
boss of tools, and why he wanted her.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
To get the tools.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
They hit him over the head, dug him to the creek,
took his money. That's what I think happened. How I
know that it seems like it makes the most logical
sense because that red shed, you know, we've had two
houses burned right next to it, We've had a flood
that washed everything away, a red sheds still here. You

(02:50):
get real, real, real weird feeling when you're going there.
It just it's a different kind of feeling a weird
sound of nothing, and it it. At one time it
had a dirt floor, and then over the years they
added wood to it and so that was gone. We

(03:12):
always wanted to maybe dig around there, but nobody's gotta
nerve to do it. And when Shelby was a little kid,
him and his cousin Rainy.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
Would sleep in that thing at night.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
That was you ever in that shit? I didn't think
so Ada said no, oh that yeah, it's been around
a long time. The one thing that really really changed
my whole mind about exactly what was going on is
we had that camper that motor home back then right there,

(03:51):
and Lee's mean and Lisa was sitting there in a
lawn chair and it was almost it was almost dark.
It was pretty dark, and she said, you hear that
had the air conditioner on? And I said, no, about
this time of the year, you know, no, I didn't
hear not. She says something in the creek. H really,

(04:18):
I said, probably just deer. You know, deer cross here
all the time. So I said, let's go look at it.
So I got my flashlight out of the camper. I
got pretty decized flashlight and we walked around the corner
here and I looked right over to you there, and I
can see something walking through the woods through here. It's
like black. He just walked through the woods. And Lisa's going,

(04:39):
what is that?

Speaker 2 (04:40):
What is that? And I said, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
I said, it's gotta be a deer. I mean I
look trying to look through it, you know, with a flashlight.
And then I didn't see it no more. And there
was like a big sycamore, It's a big V. And
right between the sycamore, I could see like a brown leg.
That's all I can see. And I said, it's a deer.
I had that flat, I say, looking at the deer, look,
I see the brown leg. And then I seen the

(05:05):
top move and then the bottom move, and it was
walking kind of away from us, kind of you know,
about eleven thirty eleven o'clock, you know, angle going that way.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
And the least thing I was.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
Thinking about was get my phone out video of it.
That was why I would get away from it. So
I started backing up, put my light on it, and
it was walking away and I seen it turn and
looked just like that, and I seen two silver eyes
look at me and right back just a second, just
this roop is done. And I said, I see eyeballs,

(05:45):
And I said, I'm gonna go get at him. So
I went backing up. At least I says, don't leave me,
do leave me. She's she was backing up with me,
and I was looking around and she said it turned
around and went back.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
I didn't see that part.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
I thought it was headed towards. So I was going
to get at him cause he was the front the
house making some burgers for everybody, and I wanted to
go tell him was it was headed to the road,
was go look at it? You know, seen something, you know?
And I went up here and told him. Lisa went
to the camper and got inside the camper and shut
the door, and uh, honestly, you know something that big

(06:23):
a camper ain't gonna stop it, you know it it was.
It was tall, and it was black, and it looked
like I had no hat neck. He just one big
glob and it turned its head like that, look back
and see everything move. And I'm just going by memory
like it just happened. I'd get these chills one to

(06:44):
talk about it, cause it it was it was so
hap so fast, and uh, I got up here and
told that at him. I said, it's head to a road,
Head to a road. What I said, Bigfoot? You know,
He's like what? So he we went to the road
and looked down through there. We staid there for a
long time and Lisa's going, hey, hey, you know, I'm.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
In a camper. Come back here.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
So we've come back around here, and she told Adam
what she's seen, and I I was I, you know,
I didn't know that she watched it turn around and
go back toward the creek. It musta went back across
the creek beause she heard it, you know, when she
was over there by the camper. That from that point on,

(07:28):
it's like anything else, you're not a believer until you
see it for yourself. Once you see it. I can't
even go in these woods that I've seen it. I mean,
I look over there now and I can visualize that
thing over there. I you know, it's just one of
those things that you sound stupid when you're telling it.

(07:49):
You know, people ain't gonna believe you until they see
it for theirself. But there's been strange things happening here
over and over.

Speaker 3 (07:58):
So after you saw that in the wood, so then
you realize that something was truly going on here. What
unfolded after that.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
Well, the house burnt, you know, and I had when
they he called set the house was on fire.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
That camper was parked right behind it.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
So I come over here, rolled everything, slid the slide
in and I got it started and got over here
and parked over here by the creek. Well, we wanted to,
you know, stay over here, cause there's people going to
steal stuff. We had some guy trying to steal stuff,
and we confronted me and Adam did that. I stayed

(08:36):
over here. So I parked a car camper over there,
and Uncle Bob and Audrey's land right next door, and uh,
there was no electric or nothing cause everything burnt. So
I used their electric and their water off their pole
here and we was I don't remember what day of

(08:58):
the week it was, but we was in there and
we were asleep, and I heard the whole camper it's
got hydraulic jackson grew down self leveling and all that.
Something came down and it smacked the side of that camper.
I mean, I thought it was an owl.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
Something something big.

Speaker 1 (09:18):
Wow, And the whole camper kind of moves and I said,
what was that.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
I don't He said, let's go out and look. Huh huh.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
You know I ain't gonna do that, you know. So
I ain't gonna go out there and say hello, you know,
what are you doing here? What are you smacking the
side of the camper for? So next morning I get up,
I go outside before Lisa gets up, and I'm expecting
to find a big owl or something where it's smacked
the side of the campers laying on the ground. Wasn't

(09:49):
nothing anywhere. And as I was walking around the camp
or kind of looking, you know, cause I knew were
kind of when the area were hit and.

Speaker 2 (09:59):
The camper it needs buffed.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
It's kind of dull finish. And I was walking to
the side of it. I can see I could see
like a real shiny spot on the side of the camper.
And I got to looking at it and like that's
a handprint, and it's like a big old man. I
called at him, I said, man, you ain't gonna believe this.
I told him the story. He came over here and
he took pictures of and everything. But my hand's like this,

(10:27):
and it's like this, and it's a big hand I
mean it looked like it whacked it. Oh open palm.
I just wham like that and it kind of skidded
a little bit, you know, and uh it's like I
knew it, you know, something hit it.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
I knew it. So a week or two go by,
you know, and uh something.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
You know. That camper's got the door handle, we pull
it and open the door, shut it. It's got a
specific jingle to the door handle, you know. It kind
of cleaning, you know. And the door was locked and
we were sitting there watching TV and I heard cleaning, cleaning, cleaning.
I said, I was there now, so I get up

(11:16):
open the door. Ain't nobody anywhere, And they tell you
not to if you hear something like that, you're not
supposed to open the doors, kind of inviting them in,
you know, when you open the door. I didn't think
of that until after the fact that that was kind
of it was strange, you know, things like that's happened
like three or four times, that door handle of that camper.

(11:38):
And before we had this camper, we had uh another
camper and it was a pool behind a bumper pool
and it was parked there and we were sleeping in
the bed and it was night time and we were,
I mean, just by sleep and I was looking out,

(12:01):
you know, the window, and I seen headlights like somebody
pulled up, and then the the lights kind of went by,
you know.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
I thought, I want, who's here?

Speaker 1 (12:10):
So I'll get up, I'll go to the door over
it up.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
Nobody's here.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
I said, Wow, that's it's weird, you know, see them
lights go by, you know, like somebody would flashlights, you know.
So I went back into bed and I lay back down.
I told at least, I said, there ain't nobody here.
And at this point, we're kind of getting used to
stuff happening, you know, I mean, it's it's happened.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
Stuff has happened. We've seen.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
People standing in the house. In the old house, there
wasn't nobody in there. And I laid back down that
bed and I stare at that window and I see
the lights go back across the and h had the
bedroom window window on the door, and then the kitchen window,

(13:00):
and it went straight by all of 'em, just like
that a light. Yeah, cause we're bright like a like
a headlights as usual like that.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
I got up. I thought there was messing around with me.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
I got out walk around. Ain't nobody anywhere. There was
no lights, nothing. I don't know what it was.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
What color was light? White? White? Kay?

Speaker 2 (13:23):
Yeah, it was? It was white. I mean in the
window is white.

Speaker 3 (13:27):
Uh huh.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
You know if it was if it had anything, you
know there, there could have been maybe a little yellow
in it. I don't know, you know, like headlight, you know. Uh,
but it was mainly white. I don't know what it was.

Speaker 3 (13:46):
Why do you think it slapped the camper?

Speaker 2 (13:50):
I don't know wanted our at tension.

Speaker 1 (13:51):
I I always said that if it if it wanted
to hurt us, it would we would be hurt. You know,
there's no doubt about it. And I tell you something
that it was really weird. You know.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
We'd talked about.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
This before, me and you. How you start seeing things
like they show up and then somebody gets sick or
somebody you know, gets an illness or something.

Speaker 2 (14:15):
When I've seen that whatever.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
That was, that tall, black, hairy thing, it wasn't about
about three or four months, you know, I had like
a pain in my side, you know, and I went
to doctor and ended up saying I had cancer, which
I'm fine now. But it's like they show up or

(14:40):
to tell you there's something's going to happen, you know.
I mean this place has been flooded numerous amounts of times,
and we've seen those things around here numerous amount of times,
you know, and everybody here is seen.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (15:03):
That was scary though. I wonder if i Adam heard that.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
I think he went in the house. Oh, he's up
there on the back porch, right. Grandma warned us, you know,
she said there's something down here. She said, you need
to get rid of it.

Speaker 3 (15:22):
Yeah. I've noticed that too with one of my guests.
You know, they start having encounters like that where these
things are coming up to their house and shortly after.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
There it is again.

Speaker 3 (15:31):
Yeah, that was not a cow.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
No.

Speaker 3 (15:35):
The first time, what I heard was like, oh, I
don't know, I'll explain it like a deep, a deep voice.
That was kind of scary. Actually, that was deep. I
doubt these mics picked it up. But yeah, a lot
of guess they end up getting some sort of cancer
something or they passed away. Yeah, shortly after some people

(15:57):
are healed after they having a the cancer goes away.
If they already had it before that, or whatever illness
they had.

Speaker 1 (16:05):
They said that mine's not a I don't have the
cancer gene in my blood. It was strictly environmental.

Speaker 3 (16:15):
So you know, they told you it was from round Up.

Speaker 1 (16:19):
Yeah, it's from round Up, that's what they said, you know.
And you know there's a round Up and you know,
I've dealt with a lot of chemicals from where I
retired from. But you know, I used round Up there,
you know, but I doubled up on I don't know.
I don't have no idea, you know.

Speaker 3 (16:40):
But I'm sure it affects these things if people or
spray and weeds and stuff. Yeah, I mean, they know
all about it.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
Yeah, And it's just like yesterday when we heard the
little it was yesterday day before we heard the little
puppy yelping down in the woods.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
I always said that.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
You don't want to go out there and look for it,
not unless you can physically see a puppy it's yelping
in the woods. You don't walk into these woods looking
for a puppy because you might not find what you're
looking for. I mean, we went down there there and
found those bones, and they called in the cops and

(17:19):
they took a forensic you know, all this stuff and
trying to figure out what exactly what it was. And
you know, Adam wanted to get the bones. We didn't
want to touch them, you know, cause they bad enough
stuff that we went back down there to get them.
When they were gone.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
Uh yeah, they wonder.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
I mean it's like they were going, you see where
they were at, but they're gone. Someone got them or
something got them.

Speaker 3 (17:50):
You know.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
They always talk about, you know, the family, Lisa's family
always talks about the woods in the creek here go
all the way to all the way for Miles goes
to Clarney and all the way through Ironton, and they
say that her aunt seen a partial skeleton sticking out

(18:13):
of a bank up there when she was a young girl,
and she she was told not to touch it, leave alone.
So we went up here looking. We never did find no,
so it's easy or washed down the creek.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
Or I don't know.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
I mean there's something in these woods that we can't explain.

Speaker 3 (18:36):
You guys have found arrowheads here or people. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
Yeah, that was just a couple of weeks ago.

Speaker 1 (18:42):
My uh, Lisa's uncle Bob, he was a walk across
and getting ready to go home, go back to where
he lives. In South County and looked down. There was
a arrowhead and he said, look I found I mean,
here's a perfect arrowhead. And he show it to me
and he had dirt all over and I was wiping
it all off and he looked down and said, well,
there's nothing one. That's the only two we found. The

(19:04):
second one was broke, you know, it was like one
that had been broken half but it still had where
they tie it on the arrow And yeah, there's.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
A lot of stuff.

Speaker 3 (19:18):
You and I saw those those lights, those orbs at
the killing fields. Yeah, you came up because Adam was
camping there. You and Shelby joined us and You're like,
what are those lights? These orange lights movie they're.

Speaker 1 (19:32):
Going through the going down through there. I didn't even
know what what was wrong. I've just seen them going
through the woods. And He's like, that's that's down there
by the field. And then you said you called Did
you call him Matt then or did you call him?

Speaker 3 (19:48):
I texted him after we saw it, because we saw
two different times that night, and I asked him, are
you driving your side by side around those fields? He
said no, which I didn't hear anything. That's why I
was questioning I was like, normally you can hear him
coming all the way from his house, and I just
saw orange lights and then they went back the other way.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
Well, he's always talked about seeing those lights down there
and stuff.

Speaker 2 (20:14):
But I think that what, there's a family here.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
There's gotta be because we found footprint, you know, and
where Adam lives and here is about maybe a mile
and a half through the woods. Two and a half
miles to take the road. I don't know, never really
measure it, not far, you know. And the other night

(20:40):
they was over there and they put that blaster thing
and they timed it. It took seven seconds before I
could hear it. And then they'd done that a couple
of times and then something hollered back and the first
one was loud. I mean it was like it was yeah,
I mean it was really.

Speaker 3 (21:00):
Like waw like that.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
It's like you guys, hear that and they go like, yeah,
we heard that. And next one was real faint. Aw.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
The next one.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
Ah, And that's told them say I heard fo them,
and then that's enough. I'm going in. It's it's like
it's wanting to know where the other party was, you know.

Speaker 3 (21:23):
That's what I noticed last night, the past two nights
that I've camped here, right when it gets dark or
right at nighttime, they start hollering like they're trying to
find each other, and then the rest of the night
they just kind of shut up. So I think they're
all spread out around the land during the day and
then at night they find each other to hunt or

(21:44):
to roam the woods, and they gather at night time,
because that's what it sounds like, like they're looking for each
other like turkeys in the morning. Once they get off
the roofs there, Yeah, they're yap and the gobbling at
each other and they all get together and then they
shut up.

Speaker 1 (21:57):
Once they're all together, they're noturnal.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
Well, you know, me and Lisa was down there down
at the cat Cafie show and we was fishing and
uh wasn't doing very good, and Lisa had lawn chairs
you sitting there, and I kept telling her he said, man,
you smell that. I was like, man, that smells it's

(22:25):
like this, I don't know if you want to say
fertilized in the fields or it was a a garbage smell.
It was like rotten vegetables of meat that kind of smell.
That's terrible smell. I kept smelling and you can smell
it and you wouldn't smell it, and then you smell

(22:46):
it again and he's like, I said, there it is again.
You know, I smell it. And she's sitting there. You know,
she said you I was down there where it's flat.
You know I was down there, and she says, hey,
freaked out right now. I was like, no, why she
said come here?

Speaker 3 (23:05):
I go.

Speaker 2 (23:06):
Why she says, come here?

Speaker 1 (23:08):
So I walk up here.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
She says, look across the creek.

Speaker 1 (23:11):
And you know, it wasn't as it was springtime, it
wasn't really a lot of leaves like now, and.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
She said look.

Speaker 1 (23:18):
So I looked through the woods and it took me
a minute, and I see something and it was standing
beside a big tree and I could see one arm.
It must it was a light colored tree because I
could see the arm and I can see it stick
its head. And I was holding on that tree looking
around like this, and then you see that arm go down.

(23:39):
You see this arm come up and look around this way,
and he's standing there looking at us. So I get
my phone out and I was trying to zoom in
as my phone doesn't do very good job. And I, uh,
I said, we need to go. She goes, they're not
bothering us, and I said, yeah, I know, but if

(24:00):
they do, they're gonna be here before we can even
get up, you know, before you even get out of
a chair, cause they gonna.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
Big feet, gonna be splashing across that creek, and they're
not much we're gonna be able to do.

Speaker 1 (24:12):
Then he never did, you know, he never did do anything.
But I went back down there a couple of days
later and I was looking and that same tree up
in there, and there was there was nothing there, So
whatever was there looking at us, he had left.

Speaker 3 (24:30):
I think I was just watching you guys fish. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
I think he just watched his fish and see if
we're gonna maybe you know, catch a fish and got
it and leave the stuff for them.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
I don't know, but it was it was I that
was that was pretty neat.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
You're seeing something up there, looking around, you know, trying
to figure see his head moved back and forth, you
going it like doing that instead of staring at it,
just staring at us. I don't know if it was
a young one or you know, a big one, but
it was behind a tree looking at us sticking around
like that. I mean, they could stand still and you

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wouldn't see him there.

Speaker 3 (25:11):
Look like they're wearing gilly suits.

Speaker 1 (25:13):
Yeah, only black black brown black. They look they they
blend right into the side of a tree. That's why
everybody says, ah, you always keep your keep on your
six or whatever they call that. I said, he keep
you under seven as you look around you. But you
need to look up because these things. I mean, we've

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had limbs just like the other day, one fell out
of the limb fell out of a tree, no reason,
just decided to break in half.

Speaker 3 (25:42):
A fall out of the tree before it fell. Yeah,
you heard it snap before it fell. It was kind
of moving for a little bit even afterwards, like something
was up there. I looked at it and say anything.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
I mean, they're probably looking at us right now. We
don't even know it. Yeah, but they can see that.
They know you know, that's like a high powered rifle
to them.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
You don't get around that thing.

Speaker 1 (26:09):
We don't know what it is. It scares us.

Speaker 3 (26:10):
That's what I feel like. We bring all the gear
out to places like this and they kind of don't interact.
Maybe they know they're being hunted or it's something that's
not good, like I'm trying to catch them.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
Yeah, it was like stay away from that, that's not good.

Speaker 3 (26:25):
It makes sense stuff because when you're out here taking
out the trash, you'll see a deer and she just
keeps eating and doing what she's doing. But when you
walk out there and camo and a bow, they take off.

Speaker 1 (26:36):
It's like they know, yeah, will you guys use that
what's that called heck suit? Now that's supposed to be
the number one thing, but Herriday cage material, you know, it's.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
We've had some.

Speaker 1 (26:57):
Animals come up missing here, cats, you know, uh, especially cats.
I mean we've had we got a lot of mices
around here. You know that they did a pretty good
job keeping the mice and the snakes away, but uh,
they just come up missing. You know, I don't know
where they went on what happened. You might find a

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little bit of something down the woods you walk around,
like something like something grabbed it, dug it off down
the woods, half weighted. You know, you don't know.

Speaker 3 (27:32):
That.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
You know, I built a tree stand and a couple
of years ago down there in the woods, and it's
about eighteen feet in the air, and I measured on
the side of the the that tree that I built
it on where nine feet was. Then I added about
three or four feet for the arms, you know. So
I figured if I could stay above that, I'll be alright,

(27:54):
you know. So I built it up there, you know,
And I made it a lot of cedar, kind of natural,
keep a natural look to it, because I think they
can sense meddle.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
Who was that?

Speaker 3 (28:08):
Oh I heard it. It was like a faint call.
So you heard, yeah, same direction. Oh, that'd be cool
if they did something, I'd be unpacking my stuff. I
guess I'm not leaving today.

Speaker 1 (28:34):
You don't know.

Speaker 3 (28:36):
That'd be The best way is just to sit out
here every day, even if it takes over a year.
Every day you're sitting out here with the equipment like
I have, because just one or two nights, even a
couple of weeks, it's not enough. You have to be
out here.

Speaker 1 (28:51):
Yeah, you got You gotta let them know that you're
here and you're not here to hurt her or them.
We don't want kill them or anything like that. They'd
never done nothing to us, you know that she would
be neat to you know, see one, I mean really

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see up close and all that, But all you ever
see is like when they're going away or something like that.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
They're always on the move.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
When when you see them, that one behind that tree,
it was moving back and forth. I mean it knew
like it was ready to go at any minute. You know,
if if we would have took off across the creek,
it would have left. You know.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
It was it was on that you know, that mode
of them.

Speaker 1 (29:44):
I better go.

Speaker 3 (29:45):
Yeah. When they smacked the camper, was it like right
like on the side that you guys were at.

Speaker 1 (29:53):
It was on the driver's side on the slide outside
between the slide out and the back of the camper
has got great big, wide open you know spot, you know,
painted big area.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
Yeah it yeah, it hit hard.

Speaker 3 (30:12):
Yeah. They slapped the side of my house two or
three times when they were around. And that was my
first thought too, was that owl flew and crashed to
the side of the house because it was that big.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (30:23):
And the strange thing was they slapped the room that
I was in about seven nine feet up, like they
could have slapped any part of the house, and it's
like they knew where I was inside of the house.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
Yeah, well that was Yeah, that was toward the bedroom,
you know, bedroom sint shower area. You know, it was
right in that area, so it was on the back
side of the camper. I mean, they could have hit
anywhere on that camper, you know, but why they hit there,
you know, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (30:54):
They could easily flip that camper over.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
Oh yeah, you see it says that.

Speaker 1 (31:00):
And you know after that, you know, I tried to
keep that you know, that spot, and it got to
where it was so bad I washed it and it
came off.

Speaker 3 (31:11):
You know, Adam got video of it, didn't it.

Speaker 2 (31:13):
Yeah, you got video and pictures of it.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
Yeah. I mean, like I said, you don't know until
you know.

Speaker 3 (31:26):
It's Yeah, you doubted that these things exist. It was
probably misidentification and then you experienced it.

Speaker 1 (31:37):
Well, Lisa's side of the family, you know, I always
say that there's only certain people that could see these
things in all the orbs, you know and stuff like that.
There's only certain people that seem to be the ones
that only get to see that. Well, her side of
the family has always had that that gift or whatever

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you want a calling, whatever you want to call it.
And then my side of the family is the same way.
So the boys got a double dip of this whatever
it is, you know, this calling. So they seem they
see more activity, more stuff that nobody else is gonna.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
Believe it or whatever.

Speaker 1 (32:26):
We've had a lot of things that's happened here that
you know, you can't explain. And you could be two
people standing here and one person said, did you see
that orb? In other words, say no, and then the
orb will come back by and he goes, did you
see it?

Speaker 2 (32:43):
Then no?

Speaker 1 (32:46):
You know, he's like, what you didn't see it?

Speaker 2 (32:49):
No?

Speaker 1 (32:50):
I mean there's been things. My oldest son, he said,
he's set here and they were camping and one of him,
want of these buddies has seen a white orb come
right straight down this creek and then one was shot
straight up. Wow, you said, scared so bad? They left
came home.

Speaker 3 (33:09):
At the killing fields. One of the last times I
was there, me and the farmer were seeing orbs there
flashing on flashing off. Well, the last time one of
them turned on and it was close to us. It
see that little o light that's sitting on top of
that other light. It it was on last night. It
looks like a little light bulb. That thing lit up

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in the yard down there at the killing fields. It
just turned on like a light bulb and sat there
for like thirty seconds, and I kept asking David, do
you see that? Do you see that? No, he saw
the ones before that, but he he couldn't see it.
And it was like right there from here to like
that awning over there the dock, just sitting right there
in the grass just boom, like someone turned on the

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light bulb in the grass. It wasn't lightning. Bug.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
I told Adam, show me.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
Every night I go outside and I'll sit there and
off the stair up because I've seen three in a
triangle form go across here twice now and there are
three and they're just like a triangle and they're not
going fast.

Speaker 2 (34:15):
They go by it.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
They're fast, but not like a plane, you know, going
in or a helicopter going by fast. They went by.
And I've seen it twice in about the same area.
And I was sitting out there and I see one
coming from this area and it's going this way, and
I am not lying. This thing turn on a headlight

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or something, I don't know what in the whole top
of the trees and everything lit up. And this stayed
lit up for about five to seven seconds and then
it just went off and then it disappeared.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
I don't know what it was.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
I I was saying it was like one of the satellites,
But there ain't no satellite gonna shine a light out
on the trees like that and then just.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
Disappear.

Speaker 3 (35:06):
It's strange.

Speaker 1 (35:07):
Yeah, I told him about it, and you know, one
of the deals you see and then it's over before
you get.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
Your phone out of your pocket.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
You know, nobody's gonna believe me, you know.

Speaker 3 (35:19):
When I interviewed Jason down the road on the Channel,
he said that there were locals that said that in
the remote parts of the Mark Twain around here, they've
found entrances to like underground bases, and I've seen like
crafts going in and out of them. But that was
like back in the seventies or something.

Speaker 1 (35:41):
Yeah, well, you know, I retired from being a minor.
I don't know, I retired from being a I was
a herculaneum and then research and development. I ended up
being on the ground and retiring. I could see something
living underground. I mean there's enough room underground where I

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mean you could have whole city underground. I mean it's
a big, big, area.

Speaker 3 (36:08):
We're just on the top layer. There's many layers down there.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
Yeah, and where I was was under the water table,
so all the water was going to my area and
it got and I got pumped up. But yeah, there's water.
You know. You can't drink the water because it's got
too much emotion in it from the dynamite. If it
runs long enough, you probably could that. Uh, you'd always

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rain in the same spot, you know, dripping the same spot.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
You'd have a little bitteo.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
We call it cond of our calcium build up on
a rock, on a concrete wherever in the sand spot
where it dripped for years.

Speaker 2 (36:49):
And yeah, it's pretty cool.

Speaker 3 (36:51):
But what else can you think of? Have you ever
had any experiences you been out in the woods hunting,
turkey hunting, deer hunting, anything.

Speaker 1 (37:03):
You know, it's funny you said that not far from here,
I was deer hunting. Get out there in the woods
and was dark in November. And I tell this, it
sounds stupid, but it's the truth. I was in my

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tree stand, and it was a regular ladder stand, you know.
I went up this tree and I would sit up
there in my little chair and looking over this this valley,
and the fog came in, and it was all at once.
This fog start coming in and it's coming from the

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right going to the left, and it looked like people,
like clouds of people in their legs walking through the woods.
I mean there was like seven or eight different things
going through the woods. And they went right on down,
went ride on up, and they went through the woods.

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And I was like, I, I you know, I just
sit there and if a turkey would have came off
the roost or something like that that would happen. I
would jump out of that Tuesday. And I was so scared.
I mean, I was like, I was being real quiet,
and I've seen that thing that just came down through there.
And they went down in the bottom and they came
back up and they're just like legs coming down. You

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see the arms and the head and all of 'em
all like one big long.

Speaker 2 (38:34):
Thing and they's all together going down through there. Scary.

Speaker 1 (38:39):
It's that that kind of freaked me out. I never
seen that before.

Speaker 3 (38:44):
What about on the river you and Lisa saw, was
it a plan a group of them?

Speaker 1 (38:51):
Well that they what one night we were sitting there
in the bedroom, I'd hear this. It was night time.
It was about eleven o'clock at night.

Speaker 2 (39:02):
I hear this turkey and it sounds just like a turkey.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
You know out there. You know you've heard them, you
know they're there.

Speaker 2 (39:13):
And I like, that's a turkey.

Speaker 1 (39:18):
So I opened the window up and I was sitting
there and I Adams got it. I videotaped it, and
we were sitting there listening. There go on, let's get
closer and closer. And at the end of it, would
it got a little closer. When it got done gobbling.

Speaker 2 (39:34):
They could hear it.

Speaker 1 (39:36):
Like growl, not like a turkey, would, you know, the
way they do that. It would like a graw. I
like that then, and it's getting louder. Shut the window
and they still hear it. I mean, it's really loud
and it just quit. I was like, I don't know

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what that was, but it was. I don't know. It
was the weirdest sound I ever heard. It sounded like
a turkey at and I've never seen a turkey gobble
at night at eleven o'clock at night and growl like
like a dog, you know.

Speaker 3 (40:18):
And I've heard similar but with owls like they'll do
their cause really didn't do like the growls at the end.

Speaker 1 (40:26):
No, I did not know who it was, like a turkey.

Speaker 3 (40:30):
That's what I'm saying. They're mimicking animals, wildlife.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
That's what I was saying about the little puppy. Whatever
is here.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
It can imitate things to get you to come into
the woods.

Speaker 2 (40:42):
You know.

Speaker 1 (40:43):
They they oh, they got kids here, you know, and
let's say a puppy. Yeah, let's make a little puppy
sound that way the kids come there looking for a
little puppy that's lost. You don't know, you mean, look
at how many kids are disappearing these days.

Speaker 2 (41:01):
Scary.

Speaker 3 (41:02):
Good point. Maybe some of the missing people followed a
noise that they thought was maybe like a baby cry
and a puppy, maybe one of their family members or
someone calling their name.

Speaker 1 (41:16):
Well, you know, here's here's the crazy thing. We went
up to Washington, you know, we'd stop at gas stations,
you know, and everybody up there is you know, Native American,
you know, and uh, they got those great big you know,
missing kids things on the walls, and they got pictures
and pictures and pictures of these thirteen twelve, nine, eight, fifteen.

(41:38):
You know, these kids, all Native American have come up
missing real, can't find 'em. Every gas station was like that.

Speaker 3 (41:48):
Do the natives think that it's the cryptive creatures responsible
for the kids.

Speaker 1 (41:55):
Eer? Every gas station, every place we stopped.

Speaker 2 (41:59):
At there was like that.

Speaker 1 (42:00):
They had The whole wall was lit up with missing children,
you know, anywhere from six to eighteen, nineteen years old,
boys and girls.

Speaker 3 (42:12):
So a lot of missing people in Washington State.

Speaker 1 (42:14):
All Native American, you know, it was it was just
all Native American. You know, when you go through there,
it's you know, you're going through their territory anyway, you know.

Speaker 2 (42:24):
And I was like, man, you know, you go in.

Speaker 1 (42:28):
Walmart, you see the little signs of with men, there
are a lot of kids is missing there is We're
in the world.

Speaker 2 (42:35):
What's going on?

Speaker 3 (42:36):
You know? But yeah, how was the BIGFO conference in Washington?

Speaker 2 (42:44):
Cool?

Speaker 3 (42:45):
Yeah? Yeah, you got to meet Jeff Meldron yep.

Speaker 2 (42:48):
Talk to him for a while.

Speaker 1 (42:49):
He's a nice man, really really smart person. He uh
he knows quite a bit.

Speaker 2 (42:56):
And uh yeah.

Speaker 1 (42:59):
I'd like to see him come down there and just
walk through.

Speaker 2 (43:01):
These woods that night.

Speaker 3 (43:04):
Yeah, I want to see him.

Speaker 1 (43:06):
I just want to see him walk down through there,
you know. About one thirty two o'clock in the morning.
That's the other thing.

Speaker 3 (43:15):
Big fish splashed.

Speaker 2 (43:16):
I don't know what it was.

Speaker 3 (43:18):
It was something thrown.

Speaker 2 (43:22):
At about three o'clock. Every morning. We wake up.

Speaker 1 (43:28):
Every morning from either five till three to about five
after three.

Speaker 2 (43:33):
It's like clockwork. I mean, at least I get up.
I don't know why.

Speaker 1 (43:40):
It's like it's been like that for a long time,
probably a year, And I don't know why we're doing it,
you know. It's like we used to wake up. Sometimes
I can go back to sleep. Sometimes I can't. You know,
I might be up from three o'clock to go to
bed that night, you know.

Speaker 3 (43:59):
But maybe something's out there.

Speaker 2 (44:02):
I don't know why. It's it's I mean it's it
wakes us up. It's like.

Speaker 1 (44:10):
And it's a look as you watch, you know, it's
like three o'clock.

Speaker 3 (44:13):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (44:14):
Every day.

Speaker 2 (44:14):
It's like getting to be a normal thing.

Speaker 3 (44:17):
What they call it. Watch an hour, the dead hour.

Speaker 1 (44:22):
Yeah, it's like it's time to wake up and look
out the window. You might see something I ain't looking
out there. It might be something I don't want to see.

Speaker 3 (44:29):
You know. It's creepy at three in the morning.

Speaker 1 (44:32):
Yeah, I'm surprised Lisa didn't mention it on her interview,
but yeah, it happens. Every happened last night. That's up
at three o'clock.

Speaker 3 (44:41):
Yeah, about the time I was going to bed.

Speaker 1 (44:45):
I was wondering if you guys are still up.

Speaker 2 (44:48):
I was like, I wan't. They're still out there running
around there a good luck.

Speaker 3 (44:54):
Let me tell you it was creepy going down that
trail last night. Dark evil feeling.

Speaker 1 (45:01):
I could take you right where you feel the dark,
eerie feeling. That's right through where that tire used to be,
where the rocks land.

Speaker 3 (45:07):
That's where it was. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (45:08):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know why.

Speaker 2 (45:11):
That's like that.

Speaker 3 (45:13):
Yeah, I don't wanna stick around and find out.

Speaker 2 (45:15):
Yeah, it's I don't know.

Speaker 1 (45:17):
You know. I built that tree stand, you know, and
I have no desire to walk out there, and the
woods one was dark. I won't go in those woods
ones when it's like that. By myself, Me and Shelby
went down there the the catfish hole one night. He
had flashlights. I had mine and I just charged it
and I was doing good and we got down there

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and my you know, I I looked at dag and
the batteries going down on my phone I'm like, uh,
what light And then we heard something holler, and uh,
I said, we gotta go. I said, I I canna
stay under my light on. I ain't gonna Uh it

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was lit light lit up enough we could walk, but
I ain't gonna go down.

Speaker 2 (46:05):
Ain't gonna dout, not gone dut.

Speaker 3 (46:07):
It's weird how your batteries just die when you're out there.
And that's happening.

Speaker 1 (46:10):
It happens every dad. Gun time happens to Adam. He'll
have all his batteries charged up. People down there and
he'll and it. He had done that live video and
he'll be down here. I've seen his phone. It'd be
fully charged and heavy talking and you'll come down this
area and that one night.

Speaker 2 (46:33):
This is so weird.

Speaker 1 (46:34):
They were they were right in here and uh he said,
my my dad, gun phone's going dead. And you could
see like a mist come through here.

Speaker 3 (46:46):
Oh yeah, I saw that on the video. That was weird.
Look like someone walked past the camera.

Speaker 1 (46:50):
Yeah, just and uh, the phones, the lights, everything was dead.
It's like it zaps all the energy.

Speaker 3 (46:58):
Yeah. Yeah, it happens to me all the time. Kind
of strange, especially when stuff's happening. That's when the batteries die.

Speaker 1 (47:07):
Yeah, yeah, I know, right when you need it the worst,
you know, they're the best time you could use it
is when everything goes to crap, you know, the phones
go dead, the lights go dead, the car won't start.

Speaker 2 (47:22):
They was up on top of that mountain.

Speaker 3 (47:28):
What do you think these creatures are? Beings? People? What
do you think they are?

Speaker 1 (47:35):
I don't know. I think they've been here for a
very long time. And its people building houses. You know,
they're moving from the cities and they're buying land and
they're building houses.

Speaker 2 (47:52):
And these.

Speaker 1 (47:56):
Beings, bigfoot, whatever they're they're back to getting smaller. They're
smaller people buildings, and they are getting less and less
room to move. And that's the reason why people are
starting to see more of them, because they're they're their.

Speaker 2 (48:11):
Stomping grounds getting smaller.

Speaker 1 (48:14):
And at some point, I hope it never happens, but
at some point they're gonna get mad because what's going on,
you know, and they might let us know they're not
it's not not good.

Speaker 3 (48:32):
Sounds like they already are.

Speaker 1 (48:33):
Yeah, I mean, you know, when I was growing up,
they were you know, somebody said they had seen a
big monkey in the woods. You know this is in
the Ironton area, and Mom and Dad always say, yeah,
probably you know a you know, a ring, a tang

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or jewel or something escape from the you know, circus
or something, and that's what they're seeing, you know. And
I remember one time when I was a kid, Yeah,
I grew up. I grew up poor. I just didn't
know it, you know. I thought I was the richest
kid in town. I just I didn't know it. I

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didn't know I was that poor until I got older that.

Speaker 3 (49:23):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (49:24):
I remember one night Dad comes in there and when
when the house we lived down it was like a
four room house. The four squares one two, three, four
years all equal, same outside, same size, and I was
in this one here and uh he comes in there
and he says, get on the floor. Got out of

(49:46):
bed and get on the floor. And when Dad says
something like that, he'll something something, uh you know. So
so I get down on the floor and I'm like,
he said, be quiet, be quiet, her being real quiet,
and being a kid that I am, I'm very curious,
you know what's going on? You know. So I get
up and I look out the window and the house

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was up high, you know, it was an old rockhouse
and the window was way up high, probably a good
twelve feet, you know, and I looked out and I
looked down and Miguel, I'm not I'm telling you, I
seen something that was tall. It was black, and it

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was leaned forward and it was walking down the hill.

Speaker 2 (50:33):
It was going from the right. The house was on a.

Speaker 1 (50:36):
Hill and the yard was kind of downhill. And my grandma,
my granny, she lived next to us, so it was
in between our house and her house, and it was right,
I mean right there. I mean I looked down. I
seen it and it was like this, and it was
walking down. It was real slow, and it kind of
freaked me out. I thought a big bear, you know.
So I got that back down the floor. Next day

(50:58):
I told my dad, I said, I've seen that bear.
She didn't seen no bear. I said, I seen a
bear outside. He kind of looked at me like, you know,
maybe you did, so maybe you did, you know, you know,
and left as that. And I remember that as plain
as day, looking down there and seeing that big deck

(51:21):
you black thing, and it was walking down through there.
So then being a kid is bear. Now that I'm
growing up and I've seen that that was not a bear.
I'm telling you, I've seen bear, you know, And when
we was in Washington, I've seen a black bear.

Speaker 2 (51:40):
That what I seen there was no.

Speaker 1 (51:44):
Bear.

Speaker 2 (51:45):
It was I don't know what it was. It was tall, black,
hairy and silver eyes.

Speaker 3 (51:55):
Sounds like a squatch.

Speaker 1 (51:57):
So you see the pictures of them old time, That's
exactly what I've seen, you know. I mean, there's no
doubt about it. It was something and it wasn't here
to hurt anybody, you know, it was just I don't
know what it was then, just walking in the woods.

Speaker 3 (52:13):
These things are out there, they exist, and people need
to accept it.

Speaker 2 (52:16):
Yep, yep.

Speaker 1 (52:18):
People. The more people accept that there is something in
the woods that looks like that, I think the better
off they'll be, the more they'll be accepted, you know.
I mean, I don't think there needs to be some
kind of a reward to get one. Just leave them
alone and they'll leave you alone. Now, they're not here

(52:41):
that if there was, I mean, as big as they are,
if they.

Speaker 2 (52:43):
Would't hurts you, you'd be hurt. There's no doubt about that.

Speaker 1 (52:46):
But they're not. They just they're living their life. They've
got a family, you know. I think there's a family
that lives in here. I'm not sure how many kids
they got, but I know that they've they're here and
there's a lot of wildlife in here. There's there's you know, cats,

(53:06):
there's dogs, there's wild hogs, there's uh, turkey, deer, you
name it. They got enough to eat. Plus you know
all the wild you know, blackberries and strawberries. All that's
in the woods too.

Speaker 3 (53:24):
There's a lot of mussels in there, a lot of
fish and different species of fish. We caught a bunch
of fish, yeah this past week.

Speaker 1 (53:30):
Yeah, yeah, I mean there's a lot of a lot
of them from the like you said, they hang around
the waterways, they really do. They They gotta have the
water now, Buddy mine st he's seen one that was
standing at creek.

Speaker 2 (53:45):
Down there in the water.

Speaker 1 (53:46):
Yeah, there's where it was like one hundred and five
degrees and it was hot. He said, he's coming home
from work whipped up in there. It was standard creek.
I mean, all what hair, you know, they gotta be
hot and maybe it's like insallation. And I always wondered,
you know, we go in the woods, we gotta have
uh the deep woods off and everything else on what's

(54:07):
keeping them from getting all these diseases?

Speaker 3 (54:10):
And seen videos of primates and they picked the bugs
off each ethere. What are these things do and eat 'em?
Or they know the right remedy to keep bugs off?

Speaker 1 (54:21):
Yeah, they smell like crap. All the things they gotta
worry about is flies swarming. I'm not the mosquitoes. You
never know, they stink. We smelt that several times here.
Me and Shelby walked out one night and uh, dogs
just raising cane and they were like.

Speaker 2 (54:40):
What is going on?

Speaker 1 (54:41):
So we walked outside and see what they're barking at
and we smelt it and smell like a.

Speaker 2 (54:47):
That rod awful smell.

Speaker 1 (54:50):
And a skunk and it just comes and goes. You see,
you know it's close where it's at. You know, you
could have been standing there staring at us right next
to see what I've seen it. You know it's right
right in here. I mean, it could have been down here.
But yeah, that's another thing. I never smelled nothing one
but seen that one. That's so I never smelled nothing.

Speaker 3 (55:10):
Yeah, the ones I seen, I never smelled anything. But
there's been times where I smelled something unknown, smelled black
rot and flash what are you gonna do if these
things do turn out to be hostile dangerous?

Speaker 2 (55:25):
I don't know, I don't I don't know.

Speaker 3 (55:27):
I think you thought about that. I think you have
because you got the four or five seven zero back there.

Speaker 1 (55:35):
Yeah, I'm not for sure that's even a I mean
four or five or four six, whatever it takes. I
don't know, but I hope that never happens.

Speaker 3 (55:48):
You see that wolf creature on two legs? Yeah, man,
I don't know what you're gonna do. Thing comes back, the.

Speaker 1 (55:56):
Three proung footprint that left in the yard that Shelby
seen looking around at him, seeing whatever it was that
Sabrina seene in the woods. I mean, yeah, it's I
don't know, that's that's a whole different ball game, that thing.

Speaker 2 (56:15):
Yeah, I think we got a little bit of.

Speaker 1 (56:18):
Uh sas sas squatches, and I think we got something
that's that's a demonic, you know. And Uh, I've said
this before. When Rita was alive, she was very faithful
to God, very and this whatever this thing is, knows
that she's gone now.

Speaker 2 (56:41):
So that's the reason why he's trying.

Speaker 1 (56:43):
To get back in here a little bit. And uh,
we may have to bless this ground again, because Rita would,
she would get the holy water, she would bless the ground.
And you know, see some verses out of the Bible
and mean it and uh that's what's gonna take, you know.

(57:04):
And uh, it's trying to get back in here, trying
to scarce you know, it ain't working.

Speaker 2 (57:10):
You know.

Speaker 3 (57:11):
We thrive off of fear.

Speaker 1 (57:13):
Oh yeah, yeah, I once it gets your fear. You know,
they're a fear monger, you know, so they they thrive
on that. And the more fear and the more hate
and the more dishonesty, they thrive on that. It's like
like being a you know, politician.

Speaker 2 (57:35):
You can take that out if you want.

Speaker 3 (57:40):
There. You know, there's something out here and you get
that feeling when you walk out of that camper. Yeah
you're out here at night. You feel something's not right.

Speaker 1 (57:52):
Yeah, yeah, I'll be out here and I like, yeah,
you get that fear, you know, and I've always had that.
You know, like you're being a crowd of people, don't matter,
ball game, you know, middle of Walmart, don't matter, and
you get this feeling, get get this feeling of somebody's

(58:15):
watching you. They're looking at you, and you look right
at him and they're looking at you. You ever do that, Yeah, yeah,
I do that a lot. It's like, I know there,
you know, let's look like street at him. And that's
what you feel like. I hear you come out here
and you get that feeling like somebody's looking at you,
but you don't know where to look. The little satramo here,

(58:41):
he lets me know there's something in the woods that
he don't like. Yeah, he'll he'll let me know.

Speaker 3 (58:51):
Old you guys, last night I heard something hit the
camper twice, our camper, no, the older one right out
there by the deck. And when you guys, let out
Chevelle the dog. She was barking that same direction too.
And then Adam smelled something and it smelled like rotten socks.

Speaker 1 (59:15):
Oh yeah he did. I remember saying that. Yeah, yeah,
it does smells that soured. It's I don't even know
what she wanted. I don't even know what's You can
you can put it all together and say it just
stinks and that it smells terrible.

Speaker 2 (59:34):
I mean it.

Speaker 1 (59:36):
Look it needs a bath and it needs to changes underwear,
you know it just I mean, yes, it's just stinks. Yeah,
it's uh, I think they they smell like that to
keep the the bugs off of them. You know, they're

(59:57):
so bad even the mosquitoes don't bite them.

Speaker 2 (01:00:01):
I might be wrong, Eat it right, sat All right?

Speaker 3 (01:00:07):
Well, I appreciate you for sharing your experiences. Definitely gives
me some more insight as to what's happened on this
property and what's lurking around these woods.

Speaker 1 (01:00:18):
Like I said before, something's leaving in footprints, something is
throwing the rocks, putting the big rocks into trees, making
limbs fall out of the trees.

Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
That there's no reason for them to even do that.
I mean it, it's something.

Speaker 3 (01:00:36):
Make peace with them, bless the land. Keep that forty
five seventy close.

Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
Yeah, siding in a little bit.

Speaker 3 (01:00:47):
I'm going home. Good luck. Yeah, I got them up
there too.

Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
Yeah. Like I said, their yards are getting smaller, so
people are going to start seeing more of them.

Speaker 3 (01:01:00):
I'd rather live around these things though and be tormented
than live in the city.

Speaker 1 (01:01:04):
Sure, yeah, I'm not you know, like Lisa said, I'm
not afraid of them. I'm more afraid of the people,
you know, because you know, I think he could trust them,
but I don't think he can trust people like you
used to you never know. I might be wrong.

Speaker 3 (01:01:24):
They're not wrong.

Speaker 1 (01:01:26):
Yeah, they're not here to bother you. They're just here,
you know, and you just stick stuff out there. I
don't think feeding them with food, you know, I don't
think that's the right thing to do. I think gifting
them things that you think they'll like, like a who

(01:01:46):
knows that they'd be amazed by a bottle cap, you know,
or you know, a feather off of a you know,
blackbird or something, you know, something that they can relate
to you the like, Yeah, that's a good point for food.
They don't need the preservatives, m you know, like it

(01:02:08):
was killing us.

Speaker 2 (01:02:09):
But you just right, Sachimo, all right, so I appreciate
you
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