#18 The Red Sox and Yankees Rivalry with Guest Will Galarza

Our Most Energized Episode Yet! (as of Upload)

We cover mostly baseball and the Boston Red Sox vs New York Yankees Rivalry especially from the fan perspective with Red Sox (and all Boston/ New England Sports Fan) Will Galarza.

WARNING: This episode maybe considered offensive by some due to Will hating the New York Yankees as much as he does.

Message from Will: "May the blessings of Boston be upon you."

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:24):
And welcome back to the pod that has been reading
to say. It is Brandon and Tyler and we got
a oh, we got a fun one. We were going
to do this one back around the time of the
All Star break, but I got Will Golarzo with us,
and he is the one of the biggest Boston New

(00:45):
England sports fans on the planet. Has a red Sox
uniform on in studio and is n old team for
baseball because a lot of baseball people have tend to
have two teams teams of the Milwaukee like Tylers. And
if I had to describe the room right now, is

(01:07):
just anti New York Yankee energy.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
Yeah, they suck.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
So first off, well, welcome.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
Thank you, Sarah. I appreciate this. This is fun man,
very excited to be here today.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
So first off, yes, sir, the docket is give the
general scope of the historical Boston and Yankee rivalry and
why the longest standing and best rival reason sports.

Speaker 3 (01:36):
Yes, and when we talk about how long it's been,
it's actually been since well I'll say the twentieth century.
This can go back all the way to like nineteen
nineteen Ruth Babyboo times. Absolutely, So what I did is
kind of you know, I was thinking about it last
night and I'm like, man, this rivalry is just absolutely bonkers.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
And if you really, you.

Speaker 3 (01:59):
Know, it's one thing to really know about it, hear
about it, read about it whichever way, even watch it
on TV or radio. But you have to really, really,
really experience it. So a few years ago, my brother
who lives out in Maine, bought a few tickets for
me to go see a Boston and New York Yankee.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
Team up.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
And tell you what, being there in Finnway and just
watching even some of the New York fans.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
They forget that they're even from New York.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
They bring on the rivalry as much as we bring
on the rivalry on the Boston side. And to experience
it being there in Finnway, just the heat, the tension,
it's amazing. And you could just see that when it
comes to baseball, when it comes to fans, man, it

(02:57):
is all about pride. And yeah, so this rival goes back,
you know, way back, you know, in the twentieth century,
nineteen nineteen so, and I've got what I.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
Did thinking about this last night is I'm like, let
me put.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
Some things together, and why the wivy why, you know,
is this such a big deal? And so there's a
couple of things that I put together and it's fun
and I and what I did is I decided, well,
you know what, we're talking about ten different aspects of
the rivalry. One obviously the bay Ruth, right yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
When the Boston Red Sox sold Babe Ruth to the Yankees.
So with Babe Ruth, how long do you think Babe
Ruth would have lived if Boston never sold them to
the Yankees, Because as I remember correctly, I think it
was I forget the pitcher's name. Currently he lives in Vermont.

(03:55):
He said that if the Bayruth was a happy pig
farmer and then he became a drunkard and drank himself
to death after getting traded to that sold to the Yankees.

Speaker 3 (04:06):
Yeah, yeah, I mean that was a big yep yep
uh And it was a pivotable one, you know when.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
When he left. But you can also remember that that
sparked the Curse of Bambino. And we all heard about
the curse of Bambino.

Speaker 3 (04:22):
Right yeah, last eight years, Yeah, basically leading to an
eighty six year championship drought for the Red Sox. That's
when you're talking about the hatred for the opposite team,
and that was very important. I mean, that was like,
you know, he was one of one of the greats,
and so to kind of sell out like that, right,
this is the meaning of you're a trader, right, and

(04:45):
so of course.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
Uh but at the same time though by Ruth was
not traded, he was literally just sold to them, and just.

Speaker 3 (04:50):
Sold to them exactly. So I know they, you know, politically,
they had to make some adjustments on the back end
of it, you know, to to benefit you know, their team.
But it's you know, at the end of the day,
it's the fans. They hated the fact that that actually happened,
you know what I mean. And so because of that,
you know, your rivals sparked from all that.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
Now, when you talk about the history of Babe Ruth,
what I was like in elementary school and middle school,
we did learn about him, We did learn about why,
you know, what happened with them and everything. My question is,
I thought he was always on the Yankees. I didn't
know he was on Boston. I didn't know he got
sold to the Yankees. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (05:32):
Yeah, And that's the thing, you know, you've got We've
got a lot of players that actually done that where
they were you know, vice versa. But in most cases,
you know, we had a few team team players that
left us and went to the Yankees. Well, it really
depends on how you look at it, right, It's like,

(05:53):
you know, does it make sense if we you know,
if we got a really good trade or the money
to open up to buy better players.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
Maybe.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
But at the same time though, it's you know, that
goes back to legendary players, right, like Babe Ruth, right,
Alex Rodriguez think about that? Uh, Jason Vertec think about that, right,
which both played for both teams.

Speaker 1 (06:16):
It's Alex Rodriguez never played for Boston. He was supposed to,
but then the Players Association struck down that trade.

Speaker 3 (06:23):
Well, okay, true, and that's what I meant. Like these
going back and forth and getting the best of the best. Yeah,
that's gonna spark some rivals. It's a good thing that
didn't go to Boston exactly.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
It's an asshole.

Speaker 3 (06:38):
Yeah, Yeah, he's still an asshole. Yeah, he still is absolutely,
I would say, even off the field.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
But he's done some good yep. But he's still a prey.

Speaker 1 (06:50):
Yeah, he does, like he helps like try to revive
businesses and by businesses.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
Like I said, he does some good, some good. But
you know your question how many times, Well that's.

Speaker 3 (07:03):
Another time we go all day with who's cheating? But
you know, but jeez, I wonder who was involved with that.
Let's just see your Boston coach. Yes, but uh, you know,
but here's here's the thing, man, it goes way back.

(07:25):
So when you go back to rivalries, man, it is fun.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (07:29):
And there's a lot of different things that you know
that that that really plays a big part of that.
So of course, historical dominance, culture.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
Divide, fan violence.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
I can talk about that, historical matchups, cultural roots, legendary players,
which which is discussed postseason tensions.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
Is a big thing like the like the three oh four.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
Ye absolutely historical context and but let me go for
some things. And whenever you decide let's go with the
viol fan virus goes right.

Speaker 3 (08:03):
So one of the biggest things, of course is that
such a physical attractions and emotional stakes, Uh, they divide
the games, right. So that's the one thing that it
really involves is how you know fans throughout the years. Uh,
when you see an air on the field, or a
bad call, you know, and then you see fans getting

(08:26):
pretty pissed off, and then all of a sudden you
have fights breaking out because of that tension, right, because
of that physical Seeing people like fans fighting each other out.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
There is huge.

Speaker 3 (08:42):
Or when you see even the players fighting each other
because on a pitch he gets hit on an ankle, right,
and all of a sudden, he's going after that, you know,
after that picture. It's for me and for all the
fans historically have seen that over and over and over
and over and so when you and you get that
in every single team obviously, right, especially the ones that

(09:04):
are really dominant, where they really face each other and
they hate each other for whatever, you know, for other reasons.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
For example, the White Sox and the Cubs. White Sox
and Cubs.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
The Cubs white Sox is more like one directional because
just kind of looking at the White Sox going however, well, no, we're.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
Not talking about now. We're talking about like early two thousands, nineties, eighties. Yeah,
that's when the fans used to get violent.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
So yeah, so what he's talking about, He's right, it's
like the fact that today's a little bit more controlled, right,
You have more security, you know, things in that nature
and whatever.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
Even even at the Bruis game we went to, I
saw security going up and dipping down. Events services, ex.
Security going up and down.

Speaker 3 (09:44):
What I'm looking here is eighties, seventies, eighties and nineties,
and then early two early two thousand as well, where
you didn't have enough security. It almost was a a
free for all. It's a free for all, and people
were used to that. It's like, oh, that is the

(10:05):
right thing to do to call another fan, Hey dude,
your team sucks. You know, Hey, dude, you're freaking player's
an ass wipe, you know what I mean. I mean,
you could still do that. You can still do that.
And then of course there's you know, beer being thrown,
popcorn being thrown, fistbites all heck.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
Yeah, but even now, even now, you can't even do that.
You can't gonna come after.

Speaker 3 (10:27):
You, right, And there was no such thing as hey,
guess what, you're actually banned from from the clubhouse, banned
from the stadium.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
Here, No, it wasn't. You were able to go ahead
and buy tickets to come back again. You can't do that.
If you're banned, they're gonna take you all your information,
you can't come back. Yeah, and then but you're flagged exactly.

Speaker 3 (10:46):
So I enjoyed that watching the games with my dad,
going to the baseball games, and then of course me fighting.
The only person I actually fought quite a bit was
my brother James, because he was a Yankee fan. And uh,
and just I want to put this out here, and
just to notate this, uh, he is gay. So at

(11:06):
that point, you know, you know, sorry, brother, I just
had to expose you. Yeah, I know you're married to
a woman, but I still think you're gay.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
But anyhow, at.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
That point, you know, we thought as kids, and I
mean I was in third grade and from that point
on just kind of just fighting my brother because he
was a Yankee fan.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
I'm not sure. I still think he's adopted. But anyhow,
you know, other than that, we bought assuming your entire
family is Boston, yes, yes, except for your brother. Except
for my brother. I think he did it on purpose,
you know you do on purpose?

Speaker 1 (11:40):
Or was he dropped on his head?

Speaker 3 (11:42):
I think probably dropped on his head or so, I
swear to that. I think my my parents pulled him
in a dumbstair. But other than that, that's kind of
where that ends up.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
Oh boy.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
Yeah, so I.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
Know it's crazy, but you're right. I think the Van
Bienen's was pretty amazing back then. I know it's sounds crazy, right,
violence is bad and all that, but you know what
you you walked out of with a pride, right with
a black eye saying damn, I'm glad we won this
game because the black guy's worth it, you know.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
Uh. Yeah. So even when I was even when I
was going to White Sox games as a kid, both
my dad and my grandma and grandpa, there was I mean,
there wasn't as much violence as you would have seen
in the nineties and the eighties. Yeah, but there was
still some hey fuck you, fuck you cub fans, fuck

(12:30):
you White Sox. Like you know, it's it was getting
towards the point where things weren't being thrown anymore exactly.
It was more of just verbal words. It was verbal words, yeah,
my mother, Yeah, and everybody knows that. I mean, it's
part of it's part of sport, right. One of the
worst fans out there is freaking these jerseys. These dudes

(12:51):
are just terrible, you know. Uh, Philadelphia Eagles, Right, if
you want to just you know, talk about one of
the worst fans ever.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
Oh yeah, do check them journal and every sport and
every sport. If something good happens, like they signed a
top nash player, or if they yes, win a championship
or get to championship and then.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
Lose it, yeah yeah, exactly, exactly burned down their own city.
If they lose, they look, oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
Absolutely well, they do that celebration for them as well.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
Yeah yeah, city.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
Brotherly loves my dad, says my ass.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
Yeah exactly. Yeah, So really quick, man.

Speaker 3 (13:24):
You know, when you talk about rivals, right, what the
reasons are, right, But let's talk about dominance, right. The
Yankees won twenty seven world titles while rest Sox only
won four since two thousand and four, creating a generation
divided between them because it just took you know, it
took them longer to get games when you had New
York Yankees winning them crazy.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
Right, left and right, yep, between the two fan base.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
So after four, like the Yankees won one more championship,
hasn't won a championship since then. It's almost like it
kind of reversed.

Speaker 3 (13:56):
It kind of reversed, and we started seeing that also,
for example, culture divide, right. Yankee fans often viewed themselves
as superior. We know that because guess what, we call
them the Evil Empire because they've got the money to
buy everybody.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
Who's great? Right, who's more? Who's more evil? The Dodgers
are the yanke exactly exactly because they both throw money
at their points. Yep.

Speaker 3 (14:20):
And in the meantime, Red Sox fans, well, they maintain
the underdogs and they've always been when you look at
that historically the matchups, right, Uh, they face eacharger three
times in the ALE Championship Series, with Yankees winning twice
and Red Sox winning once.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
Any competitive tension.

Speaker 1 (14:38):
As oh my god, how.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
Let me tell you I was jumping joy, I ran
out in my underwear.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
So yeah, game where Alex just like slapped the ball
out of the guy's hand for runner interference.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
Mm hmm yep. Tension again again.

Speaker 3 (14:56):
Tension tension roots right, It goes back to with each city,
you know, having the rich baseball culture, and it fuse
the anoxmity between the two teams, right because everybody knows, all, shoot,
we're gonna go to a freaking Yankee game, and you
know in New York here this is this is not.

Speaker 2 (15:12):
Gonna be good. But vice versa.

Speaker 3 (15:16):
The we already talked about elegiti players right Prese's attention
games that left tensions.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
That's huge.

Speaker 3 (15:23):
Again, that falls back to bad cause, right, so we
know that there's always.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
Bad cause and all that fix that, right yep.

Speaker 3 (15:31):
Stereotypes Yankee fans being arrogant and Reds fans being inferior arrogance. Man,
if you just meet a New Yorker fan, I tell
you what.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
You just want to slap them. That's it. You just
want to slap them, and then after that, as you
walk away, just call them a bitch. So that's it.
The lazy hold on. They're in their lazy boys and
they're got they look dirty as hell. Oh of course,
of course.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
But what you just like said you would call Yankee
fans as they walked past, isn't that also what you
just call Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
Yes, every moment I can say that, I will say it.

Speaker 3 (16:10):
I'll see it right now, Aaron Rodgers, if you're hearing this,
you're a bitch.

Speaker 2 (16:15):
That's it, a royal bitch.

Speaker 3 (16:20):
Historical context, man, this date's back early twentieth century. We
know that dominating early the years this is what's really
interesting during the twentieth century with Red Socks. They were
dominating the early years before and that was in the
al This is before the Yankee rise, and I can't
you know, that's where of course you got your rivalry.

(16:40):
We were good first, man, we had it, you know,
we were like the big shots.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
And then of course here it.

Speaker 3 (16:45):
Comes as damn team and you know, comes from Gayland,
and so it's like, you know, so at this.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
Point it's like what do you do? But there you go,
we know that we have the rise.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
You know.

Speaker 3 (16:58):
For this illustration, it's the deep seated nature of both rivalry,
making it one of the most iconic sports in all sports,
in all sports, not just baseball. Yankees and Red Sox, man,
you know. And so for those reasons, that's that's that
we're looking at.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
That goes back one hundred and six years.

Speaker 3 (17:20):
Yeah, easily, easily, easily easily, you know.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
Uh. And so that's that's one of the one of
the you know, reasons why I enjoy you know, I
enjoy baseball so much, you know, and and and respect
the game. But most importantly I stay true to to
my feelings.

Speaker 3 (17:39):
You know about the case. I'm sorry that's not that person.
That would be my brother. Sorry about the gay Yankees. Uh,
do you hear that, James? Sorry, yeah, I beat you
to it.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
That shirt that says those yucking thanks.

Speaker 2 (17:54):
Oh my god, I should get that shirt.

Speaker 3 (17:56):
I'll tell you what every moment and I want to
tell you this, Brandon, seeing some of my text notes
with my brother and uh, when you're doing cell phone
sales and we go back and forth, of course when
there's a win and lost whatever.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
And I just can't stand my brother.

Speaker 3 (18:11):
I can love them, but I can't stand them at
the same time. So of course we just we go
back and battle it. And so what I personally do
is that I like to expose the Yankees, especially during
Gay Pride. It's one of my very very famous moments
of my life where I get to demonstrate some really
cool emojis, some pictures, some gifts. Uh. Yeah, it's great

(18:35):
to just send things that are so colorful for my brother.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
The entire month of June. Yeah, there you go, for
the entire month of June. It belongs to the Yankees.

Speaker 1 (18:46):
Yes, what do you say the Yankee fans do with
their team, especially Aaron Judge or some called Aaron fludge, So.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
I mean, what what the Yankees would do? Oh well,
I don't think I can see this over the air,
but you can just imagine it. It's not live, I know, right.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
I mean you want to say it's so padly you
say no, you say it, No, you say you say
you say it.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
Well, you're both beautiful.

Speaker 4 (19:20):
Somebody's saying, yeah, no, Well let me put it this way,
all right, So with with with uh, I just kick
his ass?

Speaker 2 (19:33):
Are we going to talk about Count Riley?

Speaker 1 (19:35):
Oh? I mean yeah, like Judge of Riley for for
the ale because it's neck.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
And neck, Yeah it is. It is nick neck like Judge.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
Obviously he was hurt for a bit and then freaking
Judge and then he got back from injury kind of
saidh And after he got back from injury for a
long stretch he was only hitting two twenty it's mister.
And then you know, hell, on the other hand, this
is great news, just so you know, all right, and
then like cal has fifty plus like is that fifty

(20:07):
to fifty plus homers? He's hitting like two forty five
to fifty something like that. Yeah, and with like a
nine hundreds on the ops, Judge is still him three
hundred on a year with like over one thousand ops,
but the most of that came from the start of
the season when he's hitting damn near four hundred, and
the homer uncount for Judge, I think is like forty
something at this point. But Judge plays at Mickey Mouse

(20:32):
Ballpark of Yankee Stadium.

Speaker 2 (20:33):
No no, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
Now plays in Seattle, which is a picture's ballpark, right,
we don't, we don't. One play is primarily Anno a catcher.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
It's it's not Mickey Mouse Yankee Stadium. It's well, would
you say about Yankee Stadium. It's a bitch stadium. Now
say that's right, It's a bitch stadium, both versions, right, boulverse, absolutely,
you know. And that's another thing, man, they're a bunch
of sellouts. That's all I out to say, you know,
the old Yankee Stadium, and then they go, oh, we'll

(21:04):
just rebuild it new Yankee because we have.

Speaker 3 (21:08):
And you know what's funny you mentioned that, because that's
exactly what I was, you know, telling my girlfriend about it, right,
and I said, you know, we are one of maybe
a couple that have, you know, besides Wrigley of course, right,
and some other we've got the original historical stadium. Even
though when I went to Boston up in the upper level,

(21:30):
we still have the original wooden chairs and it's great
that and they never replaced them, and they never replaced them,
which is amazing right. In fact, I was I discovered
something online where some of the broken pieces of these
wooden chairs. Uh, there's a manufacturer that is taking the

(21:51):
wood and actually designing rings.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
Out of it. Really, yeah, which is pretty amazing.

Speaker 3 (21:56):
Guys, Yes, yeah, absolutely, So I got a little show
and tell here.

Speaker 1 (22:03):
Unfortunately we don't have video to show that.

Speaker 3 (22:06):
It's okay, So what I got here in this nice
leather box here are replicas of some of our our rings,
our championship rings, and of course we've got a couple of.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
Boston He's used to be on that team. Oh I know,
right man, like for no former.

Speaker 3 (22:28):
Yes exactly, yeah, check those out. Of course these are
my new England Patriots right over here.

Speaker 1 (22:35):
You don't have anything from Boston Bruins. I do not.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
I plan on it for sure.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
Do you have anything from Celtics or not?

Speaker 2 (22:44):
No, that's another two so Celtics and Bruins. I'll definitely
we're not going to talk about twenty thirteen, are we No,
we're not seventeen seconds by the way. Yeah, we'll skip
on that, thank you very much. Yes, Aaron Rodgers, you
suck wanted to bring that up out of the blue.

Speaker 3 (23:02):
But yeah, take a look at that. Those are pretty cool, man,
These are I'll started collecting this. Uh you know there's
a couple of things in the inside too as well.
If you take a look. You got the dates that
are on there. Uh, you got the rings, the diamonds
and so forth.

Speaker 1 (23:17):
The way a fair bit. I mean, I'm pretty.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
Mm hmm. Let's see.

Speaker 1 (23:24):
Yeah, yeah, there's this is the which this yeah, this
is on but what this is, Oh, this is the
seven ring from when they cremated Colorado in four games.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
When Colorado used to be good.

Speaker 1 (23:38):
Oh no, Colorado is like had a couple of playoff runs.
One they get slapped by the Boston the World Series,
and then the other one is they get swept by
Milwaukee in the nld S.

Speaker 2 (23:48):
Right right, and Milwaukee isn't so close to a World
Series and they've just never gotten there. Well eighty but
I mean eighty two. But and they're looking great right now. Yeah,
and you want to keep hoping that they keep doing great.

Speaker 1 (24:03):
Especially because the whole after Youker died earlier this year.

Speaker 2 (24:06):
Yep, yep. So I hope that because of that, it
brings those guys, Hey, we got to do this. We
got his spirit here on our field. Listen what I
told him. That's why I told him that the game.
I'm like, if they win the World Series, you you think,
Bob Buker, Yes, that's what you think.

Speaker 1 (24:21):
What do you think? Like Bob Buker like told god,
hey do this for me? And then how hard?

Speaker 2 (24:27):
How do you think they won their fourteen games.

Speaker 1 (24:30):
And then the eleven games before that.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
Right, almost won, like I told him, But at home
they almost won the entire month of August.

Speaker 1 (24:39):
And then and then of course, like yesterday Milwaukee wins
like I think it was like it was closed. No,
it was like six or eight to like two or
something like. There was like seven to two or whatever
against Toronto, and then like of course there was the
game won, like for the series against Arizona where they
were just blowing out Arizona. Well, tell her, did you

(25:00):
say about that after? Well? McGill blown the last game
of the San Francisco series, and then.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
I just kept saying where was this right? Where was
this on that Sunday?

Speaker 1 (25:13):
Well, and I got that Sunday. MP was like, hey,
let's put in Siegler. Now was their colored bag calls
at the NS because christ put out his arms. It
was like what the hell type of thing because they
were like the greeg of calls at abs. They dropped
their head. That goes away. But same time Siegler at
the time, he hasn't hit w He hit his first
double recently, but otherwise it was primarily just singles or walks. Sure,

(25:36):
he was hitting under two hundreds, under a six hundred
ops with no home runs. Why are you putting him
in there for a guy who is like hitting better
had his base hit earlier in the game as well
as a home run.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
Bruce did win yesterday, That's what I thought.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
I guess Toronto and then yesterday because I was listening
to a little of the game from preparation. Today it
was Boston versus Pittsburgh. Now Boston to lose against Pittsburgh.
Usually you would be like, really Pittsburgh. However, it was
Paul Skin's game. Paul Skeens is going when the NLS
young barring an under circumstances. Farlt is playing on a

(26:13):
fantastic run. Let's be realistic, Paul.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
Like, even though the team's not good, you still have
amazing players on that team.

Speaker 1 (26:22):
Is going to be the n all CY Young Winner?

Speaker 2 (26:25):
I think so absolutely? Who would be the ale that.

Speaker 1 (26:28):
It's either going to be Schooble or I think Crochet
from Boston.

Speaker 5 (26:33):
That'd be great, but that I like to see, but
going to be it's just Skans And then n L
MVP is just going to Betani again because Atani can
do everything, but in the al side again like Judge
or Raleigh.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
I think it's going to be Roy because it's Jones
has been hurt for how like.

Speaker 1 (26:56):
He was out for like two and a half three weeks.

Speaker 2 (26:59):
Right and dead tanks you're like hitting at.

Speaker 3 (27:02):
Well, we absolutely you'mous once you once you're like if
you're interne you lose that for several weeks or months.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
You can't just get it back right.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
Well, and it's like, as I said, he was hitting
two twenty as a DH for like sort like for
a bid after he got back and then when he
went they did that Boston series slaughtered the Yankees.

Speaker 2 (27:21):
Yep, yep, absolutely decimated, and now you guys are like
battling it out for second place. For second place, which
is you know, if they weren't if the Yankees weren't
playing the White Sox, and they wouldn't have won all
those games.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
Like the Yankees can only win against bad teams. Against
playoff teams, they lose. That's just how it is.

Speaker 3 (27:41):
That's why I'm a little optimistic about like where this
is going to actually head when you look at because
we're getting you know, we're getting really close Monday September
right right now, Let's go and see. Well, you know,
if you if you if you say, look at like
playoffs predictions. Right, let's say if it ended I wrote
on here would have if it ended today, you're top six, right, So.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
In the let's start in the al well in the
like you know what.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
The ALE has already decided.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
What do you what do you think?

Speaker 1 (28:14):
So the ALE East champion is going to be Toronto,
as I think champions.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
Toronto's really good.

Speaker 1 (28:23):
Detroit Detroit Lions like not Lions, sorry.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
Football Detroit.

Speaker 1 (28:32):
The yeah, the AL Central is so bad where.

Speaker 2 (28:35):
ALE Central's already was already decided before they all star break.
Oh yeah, what what about Houston.

Speaker 1 (28:41):
That at one point it looked like Seattle could possibly
take him. Now unless have Houston implode, Seattle is going
to take second that division, Okay. Both are going to
be playoff games, yeah, on their wildcared teams are going
to be probably Seattle, Yankee and Boston because.

Speaker 2 (28:56):
You know what, that's what I got here.

Speaker 3 (28:58):
Uh, you know, if let's say that it ended today, right,
I mean, honestly, I just threw some numbers out here.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
I mean, we've got more games.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
Right now, got hot reason, But I don't think they're
going to.

Speaker 3 (29:06):
I'm talking about definitely Boston on the top al wild
card for sure, New York if they were to Fish,
I'll say second, and the Ale wild.

Speaker 1 (29:15):
Card, okay, and then they have Seattle third.

Speaker 2 (29:18):
And then Seattle third.

Speaker 3 (29:21):
A current is currently stand exactly because because you got
Tigers and then you got you know, Blue Jays.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
The n L is a bit more interesting. I know
Cincinnati has been more on and he's good. The NL
is going to like your playoffs like now San Diego
and l are duke out the rest of your for
Hugus and a West champions.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
We already know that Milwaukee is going to win the
division in the Central.

Speaker 1 (29:46):
Is it because the Cubs halfway like the second week.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
I agree with them absolutely, I think.

Speaker 3 (29:51):
I mean, if they keep the moon going, they seems
to get healthy. If they stay healthy, has gone back,
There's there's nothing stopping.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
I mean, the to Bowl on the Philly and we
already know the West has already belonged to the Dodgers.
Now if it ended, hold on, if it ended today,
your top three would be Cubs, San Diego and the Mets.
Now Cincinnati is still trying to get in there, but
it's not.

Speaker 1 (30:19):
That four Cincinnati, though. I like, for a while I
was thinking you will end up with team, but not
both in the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
Okay, right right? We want five weeks to go a little.

Speaker 1 (30:32):
Bit, coming down to like four weeks, and the last six
weeks are the most important.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
You think Blue Jays will come in in second seed.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
I think they might fall to like to third because
of Detroit.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
That's what I'm thinking too, Yeah, because you got Detroit Houston,
so Detroit would probably be first. Hold on. Detroit would
probably be first, yep, Houston second, yep. I mean, the
as the record shows right now, if it ended today,
Toronto would be in second. Toronto would be in the
second Yeah, yeah, because I have their record is seing

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the second seed because their their record, because really, Detroit,
no hold on their their record. Toronto's record right now
is seventy eight to fifty seven, okay, and Houston says
seventy five and sixty. So if like I said, if
it ended today, would be Detroit, Toronto, Houston, and then

(31:26):
the NL it would be Milwaukee Philly and no wait.

Speaker 3 (31:32):
No, yeah yeah, Milwaukee Philly and Dodge Waukee Phillion.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
Dodgers. Oh man, that's the only thing I get nervous
about is the Dodgers.

Speaker 1 (31:41):
You know, teams don't win back to back. I don't
have them going to the World Series at all. This
yere Yeah, I think your World Series matchups are going
to be either Milwaukee or Philly San Diego versus either Boston.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
I think Detroit can get.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
There, Detroit Toronto, mm hmm. The al is like the
N's very top heavy. The AL is like all over
the place.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
And the thing is is that the ALCS will probably
be if my prediction will be correct, it'd probably be
between Detroit and Toronto. Whoever wins that ghost of the
World Series.

Speaker 1 (32:19):
The NLS like I for the NLCS, I think it
could potentially be Milwaukee versus like a San Diego or
a Philly.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
I would say, if they had a better chance, I
would say go against probably San Diego or maybe maybe
even the Phillies, because I don't know how they've been
doing between either teams.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
I don't think, well, it's like, I know, Milwaukee swept
the Dodgers twice this year, but I don't think the
Dodgers are going to have like the manpower after winning
a World Series.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
Like they're probably exhausted.

Speaker 1 (32:51):
They're going to They're going to lose to either San
Diego or a Philly.

Speaker 2 (32:55):
Probably, here's my thing, They'll probably lose the San Diego.
Sandy will probably make it to the NLCS.

Speaker 1 (33:03):
And then if San Diego is the number, san Diego
would have to be number sixteen in that scenario, right,
and then.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
Well their number what are they right now?

Speaker 1 (33:14):
They're they're number five five, Yeah, number five five, which
means if the NLDS would probably end up being San
Diego versus Milwaukee.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
But remember that, I'm not saying the Cubs are going
to win the Wildcard Series.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
You're like, oh no, they're You're predicting they're gonna get swept.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
Not swept, they'll win one game because they're they're not
a bad team, right, They're not a bad team. It's
just that they probably got two cocky right, and they decided, Hey,
we're going to be the best team in the division.
Here comes Milwaukee with their fourteen freaking wins. Yeah, it's
at one point, while they were winning their fourteen games,

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it was what the Cubs were like nine games back
from the division.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
Yeah, I was at the end of that whole stretch
and where earlier in your Chicago was up on Milwaukee
like six and a half.

Speaker 2 (34:12):
But we don't know. But here's my thing. We don't
know what's going to happen because the Cubs, the Cuts,
could they could overtake this Milwaukee.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
Well, the Cubs have a easier schedule like it. But
at the same time, this is.

Speaker 2 (34:24):
Just because right now they're pretty fun. Let's funny. Shoot,
I want my Boston in there, I really do. You know,
It's like Boston won't be a wild card team.

Speaker 1 (34:34):
You want a Boston Milwaukee World Series and oh my god,
that would be my dream. And you are going to
buy tickets.

Speaker 2 (34:40):
I will buy tickets we will all be there, guys.
I'm telling you right now, I will buy tickets for
you guys if we get it. That's on my bucket
list to be go to a World Series. I mean,
no matter what, except for except for the damn freaking Yankees.
They're so game gay. But yeah, you don't say this

(35:01):
like squear. Oh I hate those guys. I know you do.

Speaker 3 (35:06):
I just I just you know I can watch it.
I swear to you. Man, if they get in there,
I'm turning off that TV. I'm you right now, just
turn it off. And yes, and.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
Let's say the off chance the Yankees go there, which
they're not going to yea, and they are down, let's
say three games through one or zero. What do you
turn it on just to watch them lose?

Speaker 2 (35:31):
Yes? Yes, just like I did last year. He'll come up.
If it's Milwaukee and New York Yankees, he'll become a
Brewers fan, big tire waving. Absolutely, man. I will have
my finger flips all over the air like this and
like this and like this and like this. Every Yankee

(35:53):
check this out. This is great. You lost.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
If let's say your happens with Yankee Stadium. Yes, the
destruction of Yankee Stadium. Yes, yes, Now, I know you
have various different ways you'd like to see that destroyed,
but obviously the most show friendly is medi the media.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
Absolutely.

Speaker 3 (36:17):
I recently bought a brand new telescope, a very very
nice one, and I've been.

Speaker 2 (36:23):
Watching this one meteor for at least about a year.

Speaker 3 (36:26):
And if it all goes well, uh, with with what
they're saying the scientists and so forth, Uh, it looks
like that we are going to get a media that
will hit earth. But they have the precise direction. And
that precise direction, uh is in New York is a

(36:47):
new Yes, it's in New York and away in New York. Right,
I'm like this, this can't be This can't be real.
I'm like, really, is it?

Speaker 2 (36:54):
Is this real? Or is this just like you know? Well,
they he said that it may be real because.

Speaker 3 (37:04):
If it all goes well, uh, it will actually hit
the New York State New York Yankee Stadium, and.

Speaker 2 (37:10):
I think it will crush it, which will be great.
And I'm like, well, you know, I don't crush the
stadium and everything everything else out there?

Speaker 1 (37:18):
Will you go over?

Speaker 2 (37:19):
What would you do the entire city?

Speaker 1 (37:22):
The entire city, Let's say just the Yankee Stadium though, Yeah,
and you showed up there, what would you do to
the remains of Yankee Stadium? Like, because there are ashes,
you can't burn it.

Speaker 3 (37:34):
So yeah, I will collick every sample I can and
drop it off at my brother's doorstep.

Speaker 2 (37:42):
That's exactly what I'll do.

Speaker 1 (37:43):
I thought you were just I thought you said you
were going to go like this on the ashes.

Speaker 3 (37:47):
Oh geez, Well, you know I can do that, but
I swear I think I prefer since everything is in ashes,
I'd rather just lay down on top of it and
just do like the just do angels.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (38:01):
It's just angels that ash angel. Would he create that
a lot.

Speaker 2 (38:06):
The entire area twenty four hours of making ash angels
when all over the place. You would have to get
there before the cops get there.

Speaker 3 (38:16):
Well, you know what, I don't mind getting arrested, and
to be honest with you, it would be worth it
just so.

Speaker 2 (38:20):
I know that the stadium was destroyed. That's it.

Speaker 3 (38:23):
Yeah, you know what, I tell you what guys man,
it's it's it's like, uh, I hate them, I really do,
and I hope they lose, and I want them to
lose badly. But I think we I think Boston's got
a good chance of getting in the wild card. I
think it'd be fun, dude.

Speaker 2 (38:41):
And you never know, you know, with these predictions, you know,
that's what's really Who would they be playing in the
wildcard though? Would they be playing the Yankees?

Speaker 1 (38:49):
Oh? Yeah, no, they would be playing Yankees.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
Oh, definitely playing Yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:52):
And it will happen, is the Boston is going to
sweep Yankees. In fact, I have I pulled up yeah,
the Boston Yankees in series right, okay, And what I
got on there is the first month of the laptop
kind of uh, you know, then a thing of signing
itself out because I just kind of stood idle for

(39:13):
how long? And I've passed over being a thousand characters long?
Oh come on, I punched out in correctly.

Speaker 2 (39:21):
Yeah, yeah, I just don't want them to win.

Speaker 1 (39:25):
I know you don't. And so the season series, yeah,
is eight to two in favor of Boston. Now when
it comes to expected now you'll also like this. The
I also have the all the pharm System rankings, which

(39:48):
I did on a solo episode where I monologue for
thirteen minutes off the cuff, which I never do. I
don't like them doing like stole off stuff like that.
And if I have to hear like scripted or read off,
the script becomes even worse, I believe it. But so
Boston has the number five ranked.

Speaker 3 (40:05):
Farm system, Okay, let's talk absolutely.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
Milwaukee has the number one franked farm system and this
is according to Baseball America, and they have the most
respected in terms of farm system rankings compared to the
actual league itself. Yeah, and then you go down soon.
Oh worse the Yankees. I think I have to go
down quite a bit. Oh yeah, they're ranked at seven.
Yankees are ranked seventeenth in the farm system rankings. Wow.

(40:32):
Now the Cubs are at ranked twenty second. Okay, and
then the worst one is San Diego. But san Diego
sold their entire farm system at the trade deadline. Makes sense,
I mean, and plus you and that Ramon Anthony for Boston,
holy crap.

Speaker 2 (40:53):
Like he is.

Speaker 1 (40:54):
I think he might be like one of those real
deal possible Hall of Famers.

Speaker 2 (40:58):
I hope, so, man, it's like.

Speaker 1 (41:01):
But then in Boston's entire farm system, like this is
very loaded up on like outfielders especially, and they have
like four outfielders they don't know what to do with
because they're all like great hitters, and one of them
like locks their hands together like it's their golfing and
they're gonna like every time they go up, they just
like jacket jack it up.

Speaker 2 (41:20):
Yep, yep. I mean, dude, if listen with that being said,
and we stay healthy and we continue to you know,
put the pressure on you know, played good defense in
the sense right out in the field here. Yeah, I
think we got this.

Speaker 3 (41:37):
I think we can really have a good chance, you know. Yes,
what I love to see that dream come true with
with you know, with the Brewers and and and Boston. Absolutely,
oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 (41:48):
Yes, Well it's like that series when you root for
Milwaukee when just because of you, you.

Speaker 3 (41:52):
Know what, I tell you what I would, I actually would,
And and that's the appreciation of a true fan that
respects history and Bob, you're absolutely.

Speaker 1 (42:02):
One of the greatest broadcast I was listening to then.
I was listening to the game a little bit of
the game yesterday. Yeah, I was listening to Boston Feed yea,
and the Boston Feed, Like it was very cut and dry,
and it was just like it's very educational for people
who are possibly like wanting to learn how to player
all the ins and outs and all that. But Uker
and the Milwaukee broadcasting team, whether it be TV radio,

(42:25):
they just they just bullshit and then they just go
ball on or strike one or whatever. And that's what
and that's I think that's more fun. And absolutely like
you can would tell like jokes and start of that
half his jokes yourself appreciating, yes, but absolutely fantastic and
the best, like two of the best broadcasters ever lived
for baseball was Vin Scully and Bob Youger oh Man.

Speaker 3 (42:46):
Absolutely, and that's what you got to appreciate that, right, Uh,
that that's something that just you know, you put that
in the history books period, you know, and you appreciate that.

Speaker 2 (42:56):
I wouldn't be disappointed if that came to it.

Speaker 3 (42:59):
And you know, you know my Red Sox lost, right,
It's it's it's just a handshake away from you know,
your your fan next year, who's you know, who's from
the opposite team, and say, hey man, you guys deserve this.

Speaker 2 (43:15):
This is freaking amazing.

Speaker 1 (43:17):
Yeah, first franchise and then it would be also because
again they like the same year you could die.

Speaker 2 (43:23):
In the same year you could die. I mean if
that happens, Man, holy Kyle, I can see ESPN making
a commemorative documentary program of just that, like you know,
just just a year, just a year.

Speaker 1 (43:39):
Did you watch the video of the Bob Ucher commemorative
event that Bob cost is held at like in the wall,
like Tyler and I went to, like now in the
stadium itself, like before the game started, they're playing like
music from like the forties, fifties, sixties and half of
those jazz there and like you heard some.

Speaker 2 (44:00):
Some stuff when he was it's living in the.

Speaker 1 (44:02):
Moment and there is no quotes on the screen. Yeah,
and my dad was going to take a picture of
a few of those, but he was having like difficulties
because of all the people.

Speaker 3 (44:11):
Are oh yeah, yeah, it's it's I tell you what, man,
Yeah special.

Speaker 2 (44:16):
That was very special, you know and.

Speaker 1 (44:18):
Very well done, funny, very.

Speaker 3 (44:20):
Good exactly and uh and you got to respect that,
you know. Yeah, you know it's it's not my one team,
but it's my favorite on the National League.

Speaker 2 (44:28):
You know.

Speaker 3 (44:29):
But it's like, you know, you you appreciate those things.
It's like, wow, it's no different than them, you know.
Putting together a documentary on Michael Jordan for an example,
right right, you know, and so it's really cool that
we can see this in our lifetime to be able
to appreciate history like that, and the fact that there's

(44:50):
a possibility of history in the makings that he dies
in the same year they win. What are the you know,
if that happens, Oh my gosh, we'll.

Speaker 2 (45:00):
Never forget that moment. They'll have a documentary documentary.

Speaker 1 (45:04):
Hands down, it would be like Milwaukee's existence. But you
can starting broadcasting seventy one he does wins.

Speaker 2 (45:10):
Like like, well, I will, I will. I don't care
how much that World Series Championship Jersey will be. I'm
going to go buy one. Yeah, And I know it
was because traded to he was he was on the White.

Speaker 1 (45:25):
Sox and then now during the Low League League World Series.
Rob Manfred our favorite commissioner, like definitely one of the
best commissioners of our lifetime. Like I'm just absolutely like
foaming of sarcasm as we speak. The Yes, he's done
like two or three things, right, fish clock being one

(45:45):
of them. I do. I personally to expanded platformat with
the wild Card Series, but I think the runner on
second base dumbest idea ever the the three battery minimum
pitching chain or the inning change or if the pitcher
gets hurt to do the pitching change, that's kind of
ruined some of the I would say, Oh, the strategy

(46:14):
behind it, like for a pitching mat, pitching batting things, yep, yep.
But he did bring up the idea of wanting to
expand because LB hasn't expanded in like twenty.

Speaker 3 (46:24):
Years, and yep, deadline.

Speaker 1 (46:27):
Of course, the whole realignment things map best map ever
made for that because.

Speaker 2 (46:32):
There will be two teams by nine. Well, I got
it right here absolutely, and you know when you talk
about reasons behind, that's some of the really good things there.
And it's no different than like the NFL, right HL
or even the NHL.

Speaker 1 (46:48):
NHL expanding.

Speaker 2 (46:50):
They you know, there's two gigs.

Speaker 1 (46:53):
Added in Vegas and they added Seattle.

Speaker 2 (46:55):
Two new teams, and then Arizona moved to Utah. Yep.

Speaker 1 (47:00):
So I was visiting on different days.

Speaker 3 (47:02):
It's yeah, it's really interesting right when and I brut
up some stuff about this, you know, with with you know,
with the UH expansions in the realignment map.

Speaker 1 (47:12):
You know, first off, we do do n L A
L or do East West.

Speaker 2 (47:17):
Oy al n l yep. I have to you have
to keep it.

Speaker 1 (47:21):
You have to keep it traditional, Yeah, because of how
much has are you putting onto it, even though within
the university d H is just not at this point.

Speaker 2 (47:29):
You know, how many people would be angry.

Speaker 1 (47:30):
If they changed, there would be a lot.

Speaker 2 (47:32):
Yeah, you know, the fans aren't not gonna like it.

Speaker 1 (47:34):
The point just use the nesbit map. Yeah, but but
if you honestly you think you came up with a
bear map and nesbit.

Speaker 3 (47:42):
Yeah, yeah, it's it's gonna be interesting. You know, it's
gonna happen. I think it's it's inedible, it's you know,
I think it's it's good. I wrote a couple of things, why,
you know, one thing like of course right, expanding to
three two clubs, you know, and reshuffling things.

Speaker 2 (47:57):
But like you said before, keeping you know, the same tradition,
you know, And I hope they can see that.

Speaker 3 (48:04):
I hope it's not something that they'll overlook because that'll
be pretty painful for the for the fans, and I
will be pissed and I will just get there and
burn Yankee Stadium down. But you know, yeah, you're looking
at what moving into like eight divisions with you know
fourteen uh you know for four divisions four league.

Speaker 2 (48:23):
Yeah, poor League basically.

Speaker 1 (48:25):
Have yeah, so North, Southeast, West, ye, and then you'd
keep like Cubs, Yankee, Cubs, Saint Louis Burws together yep.
And then do you have any like league changes besides
I'd say like doing the popular thing of moving to
Colorado to the AL and Tampa Bay to the NL,
to do the the South, like to create the South

(48:47):
divisions one not and then would you put Colorado in
the West or South of moving them to a.

Speaker 3 (48:52):
L Oh gosh, that's a tough one, right because I
mean I've.

Speaker 1 (48:57):
Seen also seen maps where you keep NL like Colorado
and Arizona in the NL, but you put or then
you right, like Colorado in the same division as like
a Salt Lake City in a Seattle. But then it
also saw another one where you have Arizona like with
the West and then Colorado just being with Ale South.

Speaker 2 (49:19):
You'd be interesting to see. I mean, I couldn't really.

Speaker 3 (49:24):
It's hard to really pinpoint, you know, what you'd like
to see happen. Would I don't know because it's still
up in the air.

Speaker 1 (49:31):
Boston and Yankes will always stick together there there.

Speaker 2 (49:34):
Yeah. I don't think they'll ever break that up now,
but you know I look at the because portion of
it behind it, right, uh? And why you know when
Rob Manford was saying about this, you know, it's the
opportunity of your geographically realigned and how does that benefit fans?
How to benefit the business and the players and so forth? Right,
But it is you know, I wrote down a couple

(49:56):
of things that makes more sense right to why we
don't know till it actually happens.

Speaker 3 (50:01):
You said it one thing at the end, I put
on your two new teams by twenty twenty ninth.

Speaker 2 (50:05):
Who do you want those two teams to be? That's
a good.

Speaker 1 (50:08):
Question because like I I have, I personally have Nashville,
which would this would be privately funded since the mayor
of Nashville doesn't want public at least, Yeah, they don't
want to do any more public funding of stadiums.

Speaker 2 (50:21):
Right.

Speaker 1 (50:22):
But at the same time, it's how fast national is growing.
It's very possible to have a privately built stadium alla
what they did out in LA for football for you know,
like what city, what city needs one besides Nashville? Yeah, Lake, Yeah,
you can do Salt Lake you can do Portland and

(50:42):
then you can also do you can also do Austin, Texas,
Charlotte or Raleigh, North Carolina.

Speaker 2 (50:49):
We're not they don't need another team in Texas. Yeah,
they're thinking of putting another team in Florida, but they
already have.

Speaker 1 (50:58):
Yeah, like that is just too located Ampa to Orlando.
But the new owners of that are going to be
taking over Tampa in September. They're going to be gaining news.
They're looking at a new stadium, Tampa Prepper and taking
out Saint Petersburg.

Speaker 2 (51:09):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (51:10):
So you said it right to new teams by twenty
twenty nine Great Cities yep. That's one of the biggest
reasons we're in tear on players in terms of travel.

Speaker 1 (51:19):
Yeah, I know the players love travel, but at the
same time, you don't want going from East coast and
to West coast exactly.

Speaker 3 (51:25):
And I think when you look at your geographically that
that makes sense.

Speaker 2 (51:30):
If we can make those type of changes, it makes
a lot.

Speaker 1 (51:33):
Doing the most players team nowhere.

Speaker 2 (51:36):
That's why I'm saying for like the Great Lakes teams,
you know, Milwaukee, both Chicago teams, Cleveland, they should have
their own division. They should have their own I agree.

Speaker 1 (51:46):
Separating like the Cubs from Saint Louis. You can't do
that because that's a stark bible.

Speaker 2 (51:50):
You can you can do whatever you want. It's just
right right. I just believe that the Great Lakes team
need to be in their own division.

Speaker 1 (51:58):
Like for a Great Lakes Division.

Speaker 2 (52:00):
Old than l n AL, they could stay like for
the like. We're not saying move, We're not saying remove them. No,
we're saying have a great Lakes and have a great
Lakes and great Lakes.

Speaker 1 (52:12):
A Great l I personally would do like a Minnesota
like that idea, like a Great North.

Speaker 3 (52:18):
Travel travel wouldn't be that bad. And that's I'm saying.
We're in tearrann players and teams of travel. That's one
of the biggest reasons why they're looking into that. I
mean there's actually six reasons, but creating new rivalries that's big.
Eight divisions were in tear players in travel, great cities.
We got to look at these cities that don't have teams, right,
and there's there's money.

Speaker 2 (52:39):
To be made in these cities. You know you mentioned Portland, right.

Speaker 1 (52:42):
That's the same times that Dumster.

Speaker 2 (52:45):
So what do you think of uh have split seasons.
What's your take on that.

Speaker 1 (52:50):
I don't really care for that too much, Okay, I
don't because, like I know, the minor leagues do that.

Speaker 2 (52:57):
The Double A and Triple A they do that, But
I don't they.

Speaker 1 (53:00):
Do that too. They do that in Single A as well.

Speaker 2 (53:03):
I know, but they for MLBY they just one hundred
and sixty two.

Speaker 1 (53:08):
I mean, if you want short in the season, I
can see them going back to one fifty four because
that's what historically was before I think it was like
sixty one sixty two when they moved up.

Speaker 3 (53:16):
Yes, but that's the reason why you you might want
to do something like that because of the wear and
tear on the players.

Speaker 2 (53:23):
So what would you got to be? What would you
where would you split at All Star break and then
have a new season, because that's what the Triple A,
that's what the miners do.

Speaker 1 (53:32):
Yeah, But otherwise I was going to say, like for
a Great Lakes, if you want to do Great Lakes,
doing North for AL, I would do Minnesota, Detroit White,
and Cleveland.

Speaker 2 (53:43):
In the AL YE and then the NLS Milwaukee.

Speaker 1 (53:47):
Cincinnati, Detroit, not to Saint Louis and Chicago Cubs. You know,
but if you were to do let's say, I also
have another idea where you could but Minnesota and Milwaukee
Cubs and Saint Louis in one division and then put
Detroit White Sox, Cleveland and like Cincinnati Art.

Speaker 2 (54:12):
Yeah. I still yeah, I still think a Great Lakes
Division in both I like that leagues would would be
better because think about it, Great Lakes, Great Lakes Division.
Ye never had that in the history of the MLB.

Speaker 1 (54:25):
No, Well, like that'd be phenomenal, and we do like
NL and ALE for Great Lakes. Like theing team that's
going to be left up in the air. It's like,
although it's they wouldn't really match, the theme would be
Saint Louis just because of.

Speaker 2 (54:39):
I mean, they're not They're not a Great Lakes team.

Speaker 1 (54:42):
But at the same time, then you're running out of
because if you're only doing four teams per division, that's
where you would have to just accept Saint Louis in
that grouping mm hmm. That's that's where my brain is at,
because like you would do like a South where you
do Kansas City with either Colorado or Arizona with Houston
and Texas. You would do like and then you'd have

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your West Coast like like division literally just be like
you won Like if you do n all, you would
like move the Angels over the n al and have Angels, Dodgers, Podgers,
and San Francisco because he can't separate San Francisco or
l A because historical rivalry.

Speaker 3 (55:20):
Again absolutely, that's what I'm so afraid about this whole
thing at the end of the.

Speaker 1 (55:24):
Day, because Manfred would screw it up. As what people
are worried about. That's why everyone's like, just use the
nesbit map and it'll be safe.

Speaker 2 (55:32):
Yeah, but we all know he's probably not going to
do that.

Speaker 3 (55:35):
Well, then you also have the because he's thinking out
of his pocket, he's thinking, he's thinking with his wallet.

Speaker 1 (55:40):
Well while he's retiring like at the end of the
twenty ninth season.

Speaker 2 (55:44):
Like, So, my my thing is that we don't know
when the realignment is going to happen.

Speaker 1 (55:50):
Realignment would happen two or three years after the teams
are created.

Speaker 2 (55:54):
And where would you here's my thing, where would you
put the two.

Speaker 1 (55:58):
New teams again.

Speaker 2 (56:00):
Before the realignment? Before the alignment? So if you had
Nashville and say Villetland, where would you put them.

Speaker 1 (56:09):
Or would you do like or or would you would
you do Salt Lake City or Portland?

Speaker 2 (56:13):
No, no, no, no, those we'll we'll go, but one by one,
starting with Nashville. I feel like they would be in
the AL.

Speaker 1 (56:20):
They would, I would put them in NL.

Speaker 2 (56:23):
Why in Atlanta?

Speaker 1 (56:25):
Atlanta's gonna be losing the rival reason, no matter what
with the mats and.

Speaker 2 (56:29):
Fillings, So through a curveball there.

Speaker 1 (56:32):
Yeah so but yeah, so therefore putting Nashville in the
same division Atlanta makes most sense.

Speaker 2 (56:39):
But you got to think it. Think about it from
a commissioner standpoint. You know, he's probably going to put
it in the AL.

Speaker 1 (56:45):
No, he's going to put it in the NL to
make more physical sense because of Atlanta.

Speaker 2 (56:50):
It makes more physical sense in terms of what the
fans want.

Speaker 1 (56:55):
It's again, plus I think like in terms of travel
as well.

Speaker 3 (57:00):
That's a tough one, guys, because yeah, you're looking at
that part of it. And also what he said fans,
you know what I mean, because even day, who's going
to spend the money in the city the city.

Speaker 2 (57:12):
Here's my thing, right, even being the commissioner of the MLB,
you gotta think you can't just think about your walt
even though that's what Manford does. That's what he does.
But he I feel like he also thinks about the
fans as well.

Speaker 1 (57:25):
Which is why he did the pitchclock.

Speaker 2 (57:27):
Which is why he did the pitchclock. The pitchclock was
probably one of the greatest things he ever fucking red.

Speaker 1 (57:32):
Absolutely, And I don't even think with the pitchclock they
could even extend it, like make it like a couple
of seconds longer. It's that way pitchers aren't consistently blown
their arms.

Speaker 2 (57:40):
What is it? What is it that right now? Ten seconds?
Or no, it's fifteen fifteen, fifteen?

Speaker 1 (57:46):
Well, there's one when there there's a guy on base,
and there's one when there's nobody.

Speaker 2 (57:50):
So if there's nobody on base, I think it's fifteen.
If there's somebody on base, it's ten. Yeah, there's ten seconds,
so as the other way around. Really yeah, no, because
when we went to the Brewers game, there was nobody
on base, and it was it starts at fifteen. That's
what I pay attention to.

Speaker 1 (58:08):
That does Oh yeah, so it's fifteen when runners are
on base, is eighteen when there's like eighteen when there's
guys on base, fifteen when there's.

Speaker 2 (58:18):
Not Okay, So what I would say, extend the fifteen
and then no, no, no, no, no, I don't know,
because that's pretty good in and of itself.

Speaker 1 (58:29):
I would I would just say put the fifteen to
seventeen and then put the eighteen to twenty.

Speaker 2 (58:34):
But I feel like if twenty would be too long
and it would make the games a little bit longer.

Speaker 1 (58:40):
Yes, but what the same I'm saying to preserve.

Speaker 2 (58:44):
Remember the commercials. Yeah that too. You got to think
about commercials. You got to put that in play.

Speaker 1 (58:50):
Yeah that's also true.

Speaker 2 (58:51):
Yeah, because you can't if you do seventeen and twenty,
even though the commercials are going to be longer, longer.

Speaker 3 (58:57):
Yeah, it's it's gonna stretch off that game. And you're
looking at you. You look at a network time and
network time is huge.

Speaker 2 (59:04):
Instead of a thirty second commercial, you might have a
minute commercial. Right. They already kiss people They just want
to watch the game. Yeah, I know, Like it's like
like that's it. They're just gonna want to watch the game.

Speaker 1 (59:16):
Companies just want to like want to advertise, but the
people like not, Like a lot of people, especially younger people,
they hate advertisement with a passion.

Speaker 2 (59:24):
Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (59:25):
They don't market towards them, don't advertise.

Speaker 2 (59:27):
Nothing to do with it.

Speaker 3 (59:27):
I don't want to see anything about freaking New York
Yankees and Aaron Rodgers gay and diapers.

Speaker 2 (59:33):
I just don't care for that.

Speaker 1 (59:35):
Well, it's like they don't want If.

Speaker 2 (59:37):
I can control the network and fast forward.

Speaker 1 (59:40):
That, yeah, they don't every time. They don't want to
see cell phone commercials. They don't want to see commercials
of any kind absolutely thing. They just want to do
like interviews or just do like music playing in the background.

Speaker 2 (59:51):
And while we're talking about commercials, I know, like the
super Bowl, it's like they have the most commercials out
of out of anything exactly, which I understand with the
new commercials, but I feel like they just have I know,
we're talking about baseball, Yeah, but I wanted to divert
to the super Bowl with the commercial thing because I

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feel like they just have. Like early twenty to twenty tens,
they were great, they were great new commercials, but now
it's just like it's a catch crap. It is. It's
it's like, yeah, well put all these famous actors or
these famous players, and not only that, and not only that,
but they're abusing it by throwing in.

Speaker 3 (01:00:33):
Politics as a platform in these commercials and and and there,
and a lot of it is politically incorrect, and I
hate to see that in sports, you know what I mean,
like leave them, leave them separately.

Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
Well, here's my thing. I want to talk politics for
a sec.

Speaker 1 (01:00:51):
Be careful, because I promise.

Speaker 2 (01:00:54):
I would not.

Speaker 3 (01:00:54):
Yeah, it's not gonna be anything. No, no, that that
he knows that realed deep into it, I know.

Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
So my thing is is that with sports and politics,
if the president of the United States or even any
any world leader you bet goes to a game, a
football game, a baseball game, of soccer game, anything, they
should not be booed. They should not be they should
not be created on don't agree that. That's how you
can tell that politics are in sports, because as soon

(01:01:26):
as the president or the vice president shows up, boot
they are whatever. But it wasn't like that when you
look at the twentieth century. Yeah, like or like when
you had Bill Clinton, or when you had.

Speaker 1 (01:01:39):
Or even one with George Bush, you.

Speaker 2 (01:01:45):
Didn't have that. You didn't have that. But now because
it's because of Trump.

Speaker 6 (01:01:49):
Yeah yeah, well, even even if I know it's you know,
even if you look at where it's headed, has changed
so much that they are using sports as a platform.

Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
Right, you know that in the.

Speaker 3 (01:02:03):
NFL, right with the knee down. You know how incorrect
that was. That was terrible.

Speaker 2 (01:02:09):
And it's anthem or the national anthem exactly, you know,
things like that, and so you know, I think you're right.

Speaker 3 (01:02:17):
It goes back to so I'm not gonna talk about
politics here, but it goes back to quality of commercials
that make sense.

Speaker 2 (01:02:25):
That is, it works with.

Speaker 3 (01:02:31):
Sports, it works with Hey, if we've got a World
Series in here, let's have some commercials that exactly sports
gear or whatever or something that partakes me to it,
or that accommodates the event that's going on at hand,
or even the history of the two teams.

Speaker 2 (01:02:47):
Maybe the history of the two teams.

Speaker 3 (01:02:48):
That's what they used to making something that's that that
throws in some comedy in.

Speaker 2 (01:02:52):
There, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:02:53):
And the right of the rivalry between New York and
and and bos and Reds right where soon it's like
hating each other, you know, painting their house or cutting
the grass with the logo of the big Old B
in their yard. But they're Yankee fans, we know, whatever
things in that nature, it would be so much fun.

Speaker 2 (01:03:11):
We know that people do that, but they don't show it.
They don't show it.

Speaker 3 (01:03:14):
They don't it's sally, it's sadly to say they don't
show it, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:03:19):
Like it's become commercials and sports have become less about
pride and the fans amen, and it's become more about
quick cash grab and amen.

Speaker 3 (01:03:30):
And that's what I can't stand today's commercials and behind
the scene politics, you know, and it just drives me crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:03:40):
Just play the sport movie, play the sport.

Speaker 2 (01:03:42):
Move on, let's let's take the money where the money
counts on developing a team, getting some good players, making
this happen. And here's the thing. Why do you think
the NFL and the NBA have been losing viewers?

Speaker 3 (01:03:53):
Oh man, you can't just go start creating a super
nova team with the greatest players in there. How does
that make any sense?

Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
Well, I can't do that or pulling someone NA seventeen
years old out of high school and you know, and
get them drafted.

Speaker 1 (01:04:10):
I mean the NBA, the NBA is not interesting in
the NFL. The NFL is the greatest marketing team on
the planet. They do right, but the well, like the
product that's on the field. I don't even think it's
not good. They only having thirty seconds of playtime and
they have to stay around for like about a minute
and a half.

Speaker 2 (01:04:28):
And I think going back to the greatest marketing team
in America, Yes, the NFL has been proven to be
that in the last like twenty thirty years. Maybe even
farther from that.

Speaker 1 (01:04:40):
Oh, he has a better product, but they have a
crap marketing team, correct.

Speaker 2 (01:04:44):
But I feel like in recent years, saying last year,
in this year, the MLB has taken over that market
of being probably one of the greatest marketing positions in
America because Judge Otani Jai and you got Paul Skins, Yeah,
celebrating Bob Buker like it's man, this is yeah, I'm

(01:05:08):
going to be doing in the NFL right now, bitching
about Aaron Rodgers exactly. You know, Rhosteelers.

Speaker 1 (01:05:15):
What about that yeah AI video I sent you whereas
Aaron Rodgers announces who he married to himself himself.

Speaker 2 (01:05:25):
Oh my god, when you sent me that fucking video,
I almost shipped my past. I'm telling you right now,
I was laughing.

Speaker 1 (01:05:34):
What about the ones where you have Aaron Booner and
the AI thing they call Aaron Boner Boner, yeah, or
did you watch one?

Speaker 2 (01:05:44):
Watched them all?

Speaker 1 (01:05:44):
It was like Aaron like, hey, got get my stepson.

Speaker 2 (01:05:49):
Oh gosh, man, not to NFL your bitch. That's it.

Speaker 1 (01:05:58):
And then you have what other is a funny one
that happened, Oh Judge calling himself Aaron Fudger orde Packer.
It's like a or just like his unclutched gene or
just turning into it's hilarious. And then just request to
get traded to you that's the Red Sox or the doctor. Yeah,

(01:06:19):
because it's just a I think it was funny.

Speaker 2 (01:06:22):
Now I don't know. You lose every game, so I.

Speaker 1 (01:06:24):
Show you too. You want you would love to see
that every year, or.

Speaker 2 (01:06:30):
You could or you could be like last year when
Aaron Rodgers got hurt the first game of.

Speaker 1 (01:06:35):
Heard that was my last season. That was two seasons.

Speaker 2 (01:06:37):
Because that was two seasons. He was out for the
rest of the season. He was done. He was done, dude.
Then he came back the next season.

Speaker 3 (01:06:46):
It sucked.

Speaker 2 (01:06:46):
It's great, it was all you know, the predictions were right.

Speaker 1 (01:06:50):
That's it, you know, And then and all the sports
stuff like you Dallas like, hey, let's trade our best
player to first you sent me recently, you got a
fist two overall picks and aging Kenny Clark.

Speaker 2 (01:07:04):
I'm just I'm just going to say this. I think
Green Bay is just gonna they're going to ruin him.

Speaker 1 (01:07:10):
Yeah, well, green Bay is not going to ruin Mica Parsons.

Speaker 2 (01:07:14):
No, no, no, I want them to.

Speaker 1 (01:07:18):
Well you don't care for football, and I know it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:20):
No, but you know what this.

Speaker 3 (01:07:23):
Is gonna This is a very interesting year in baseball.
We got a lot of good things, you know, less
than five weeks to go. Yeah, you know we're going
to see some real I mean, this is where they're
going to be buckling down. They're going to come out
play the best games possible.

Speaker 2 (01:07:40):
And then towards the end of September, they're going to
start pulling their starters and they're going to start exactly
exactly YEP starters. And then you get your.

Speaker 1 (01:07:48):
Rookies because of going down to the twenty eight man
roster for September, where you can only call it one pitch.

Speaker 2 (01:07:55):
And one.

Speaker 1 (01:07:57):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'd say we should probably wrap this
puppy up.

Speaker 2 (01:08:03):
Yeah no, I don't let me forget one thing though.

Speaker 3 (01:08:05):
Before we do, you did ask me a question why
new fans should always choose Boston rest Socks.

Speaker 2 (01:08:12):
As I said, the biggest thing.

Speaker 3 (01:08:14):
Is rich history winning more World Series more times than
the Yankees.

Speaker 2 (01:08:19):
Can't forget that.

Speaker 3 (01:08:20):
The cultural appeal because the Yankees rivalry personal connection, so
family ties and childhood memories just.

Speaker 2 (01:08:28):
Like me and my brother right.

Speaker 3 (01:08:29):
And then last man, the rivaly dynamics, the excitement, the motivation.
These are the factors that make the Boston res Socks
an attraction choice, an attractive choice for new baseball fans.
I think at the end, man, when you're looking at
someone who's just getting into baseball as I was as
a young kid, that was introduced to me by my

(01:08:50):
dad and said, I bless you, my blessings of Boston
Red Sox upon you, and.

Speaker 2 (01:08:58):
Then that's it. Boom. But I think a lot of it.

Speaker 1 (01:09:01):
Is that, and now what are all just go over
all your reasons for never choosing the Yankees.

Speaker 3 (01:09:06):
Because they're freaking gay, that's why.

Speaker 2 (01:09:09):
Because I hate those guys. They suck.

Speaker 3 (01:09:12):
Suck, oh, by the way, they suck. That's it, man,
don't ever choose the Yankees.

Speaker 2 (01:09:18):
If we're talking about blessings, I'll always throw this over
cub fans that the pope is a white socks man.
There we go, there go. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:09:31):
Man, say, this is probably the most fun and entertaining
episode we ever done, because well here is an energizer.

Speaker 2 (01:09:41):
Thank you so much, guys. Of course we'll have you
on for future. Oh yeah, this would be great.

Speaker 1 (01:09:47):
Yeah, we'll just bring you on for some other stuff,
just to like.

Speaker 2 (01:09:50):
Well, we should have you on for the playoffs for
when that happens. That would be good.

Speaker 1 (01:09:54):
Oh yeah, that would be a lot shorter because this
is over an hour, but.

Speaker 2 (01:10:00):
We're at an hour and nine.

Speaker 1 (01:10:01):
Oh yeah, easily.

Speaker 2 (01:10:05):
So good guys, Thank you so much. Man, it's a pleasure. iHeartMedia.

Speaker 3 (01:10:10):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:10:10):
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we got to do whatever, and it's like, okay, let
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Speaker 2 (01:11:18):
We do have a discord server, but it's not being used.
It's it will I think we'll just just take that
off the at some point the venue or information slide.

Speaker 1 (01:11:28):
If we bring it back, we'll bring it back. Otherwise
they'll probably.

Speaker 2 (01:11:30):
Go away something. But U but man, excellent, But well,
it's a good it's a pleasure, pleasure meeting man, good talk.
This is what guys appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (01:11:39):
Have a nice day, everyone,