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September 9, 2025 66 mins
The heart of the matter is the matter of the heart" is a phrase suggesting that the most fundamental or crucial aspect of any situation is rooted in emotions, feelings, and inner motivations rather than external details or superficial issues.

Luke 21:1-4
1. And He looked up and saw the rich putting their gifts into the treasury, 
2. and He saw also a certain poor widow putting in two mites. 
3. So He said, “Truly I say to you that this poor widow has put in more than all;
4. for all these out of their abundance have put in offerings for God, but she out of her poverty put in all the livelihood that she had.”
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So in the past three Sundays ago or so or
four Sundays ago we started the series and we used
two Sundays and then three Sundays ago. There were some
issues that last Sunday we had to trash all of
those issues out and with thank God for moving us forward.

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So let's continue with this today. We want to look
at the heart of the giver, the heart of the Giver,
and we'll be looking at Second Corinthians chapter ninety six
to eight and then Mark twelve forty one to forty four.
So those are the two texts that we're going to

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be looking at looking at And I wrote down there
this is not from me, but one of my Augusts.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
While I was in school.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
He used to tell us that the heart of the
matter is a matter of the heart. The heart of
the matter is matter of the heart. Can you say
to somebody by your side, the heart of the matter
is a matter of the heart.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
All right?

Speaker 1 (01:08):
It sounds like what the more people call tautology, but
it's not really tautology. There's a lot of things that
are you know, they're inside that that's understanding. So this morning,
imagine that two people walk into the church and then

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someone came, you know, with his barbaria ga and then
come in and he has come to give as we
you know, ten thousand ira and he shows it to
everybody and he dropped his money. But there's another woman

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who has decided to just come and with a five
hundred nira and just came and just drop Think about it.
Who among these two do you think God is going
to receive that offering from? Just think a moment. Who

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do you think God is going to receive that from God?
What is God's value? It is the heart, not the amount.
It is the heart not the amount. What you see
with the first giver is somebody that is coming with

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that notice me attitude, with that attitude of pride and arrogance,
that hey, I want to give big thing. But the
other person came with that humility and gave sincerely to
God out of the little she has. So we have

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said when we started this series that all we have
is from God. Nothing comes from us. If God had
not given us what we have, we cannot say it
belongs to us in the first place. And that's what

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we have established in the last session that we did.
So today our focus is on why and how we
are to give, how and why we are to give,
and that's what we want to look at in the Bible.

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So we'll be looking at that first concience, and the
Book of Mark chapter twelve will be considering what God
has to give to us from those two texts. So
the first thing I want us to know in this
today is that God wants cheerful and willing give us.

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Can we say it? God wants cheerful and willing give us.
That's all God wants. That's what God wants. And let's
see it from the Bible. Second Corinthians, chapter nine, six
to seven. Second Corinthians, chapter nine, six to seven. Let's

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see what the Bible says. Remember this, whoever sows sparingly
will also reap sparingly. And whoever sows generously, we also
reap generously. Each of you should give what you have decided.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
In your heart.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
Not reluctantly or under compulsion. For God loves a cheerful giver.
So what is the Bible telling us? Look at it again?
And in fact, Paul is beginning with remember this, meaning

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that keep this to mind, don't forget it.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
So she looked Baptist Church. This is instruction.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
From a servant of God saying, remember this, keep this
one to heart. And he says, whoever, and I like
this because Paul is trying to give us disunderstanding from
farming or agricultural in a setting, who havever sols sparingly?

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What does it mean to so sparingly?

Speaker 2 (05:56):
Eh? What does feel? Feel?

Speaker 1 (06:03):
Feel? In other words, you don't expect someone who has sown,
who has sown corn in this entire church auditorium like this,
uses this place to sow con and then someone who
just decides to sown between displaced and displace, you don't
expect them to get the same harvest at the end

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of the day.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
Is not so? And that's what the Bible is trying
to us understand that.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
Whoever sows sparingly sows feel that person we also reap
feel Why, because whatsoever a man saws, what will happen?
That is what the person we reap. It is the
size that you are going to reap. It is it is,
It is not something more than that. But it also says,

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whoever sows generously generously having to sew more. Whoever does
it in a better way, we also reap out generously.
So it is not possible for you to sew sparingly

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and then you reap generously. It's not possible. So again
the Bible says, hah, look at this, he says, each
of you, eh, each one of us, as we are
seated here today. The Bible says, you should give what

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you have decided where.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
Where, what you have decided in your hearts.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
It is not what somebody told you to give. It
is what you you have decided in your heart. That
is what God is saying that you give.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
And it's saying it not reluctantly.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
Reluctantly is when go and give, no give no july No,
I won't, I will I won't.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
No, it's not.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
Reluctantly, but it's saying that's not under compulsion, not that
they force you to come and give. Excuse me, have
we been fulfilling this part of the Bible in the church.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
Mhm?

Speaker 1 (08:40):
Have we been fulfilling it in the church. That's exactly
what the Bible is saying. The Bible is not looking
for people that are forced to come and give or free. No,
if you are willing and obedient, as I says, you
will eat the fruit of the land. I tell us again,

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you see the Bible. The Christian life is a life
of obedience. It's not about what you think. I've gone
for some programs and in that program they were expecting

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people to come and give to support the program. It
is not a church program. And they will call in
fact children program parents are there too, and they will say,
add this person. They've called them to come and do
this beauty pageant that they do, and all the children

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would dress, and then they will come and do. They
will come and do, and then when they will go back,
and then all of them like that. Then they lined
up all the children and then they say parents should
start pay. So excuse me, So whatever whoever gives the
most is the winner. Excuse me? You said we should

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do beauty pageants contests?

Speaker 2 (10:13):
Is that not?

Speaker 3 (10:14):
So?

Speaker 1 (10:15):
Isn't not based on who dresses fine abbi, who has
had worked fine abby, who is looking better? That should
win the race? You're not turning it around. You say
it is the child that will win, is the one
that the parents. So they will put something in front
like this, so they will count all the morning. I say,

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where are we going? And you know what, that's what
they want us to bring into the church, so that
I'll bring the Coward family. I'll bring the Lass family.
I'll bring the Bannerber's family. I'll bring the man On
the family. And I say all of them today, these
are the people who we give in the church. So

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whoever is able to motivate church members to give them more,
these are.

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The people that have given more to the Lord.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
Come is shout allelujah, and then word shout allelujah.

Speaker 4 (11:08):
And that is.

Speaker 2 (11:11):
But look at what the Bible is saying.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
It is what you have decided in your heart, not
because they forced you.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
Not reluctantly. So reluctantly is something that is from you.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
Compersion is something that all the other people are telling you.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
Go now, go now. No.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
I don't want to know, no why Because God lost
a cheerful giver. God lost a cheerful giver. What are
the points there for us? God is like I mean giving,
It's like planting seeds. You get what your plants. You
get what your plant. That's giving. That's giving. Number two me.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
You see in that text, God is not seeing anyone.

Speaker 4 (12:03):
No.

Speaker 1 (12:05):
When we're looking at the Book of Some fifty, the
Bible says in that passage that the cutus on a
thousand ears who owns them, God honds them, God holds them.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
And the Bible says some twenty four the earth.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
Is the Lord's and the fullness thereof. So if God
holds everything, he wants us to give out willingly and cheerfully,
not grudgingly or under or out of pressure. No, God

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doesn't want you to give in that way. Be free,
be willing to give. And that why the heart of
the matter is the matter of the heart. It's about
the heart. Again, we see in that text that if

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you give because someone is watching or because you are
afraid of a pastor's words, that is not cheerfulgiving. Eh,
that's not cheerfulgiving. And it's not just about offering alone.
If Jesus was saying that when you are giving, don't

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let the left hand know where the right hand is given,
what does that mean? It's not the physical hand in
this case, Jesus is just trying to give a figurative
expression that don't let someone by your side know what
you are giving. Give all right, let's summarize it. An example.

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Some people give during church programs or public events just
to be praised. And that's why when you go for
the Oan bears, how many of us who were at
Owan Bear yesterday. You know you went for a party
yesterday when you were dancing and then somebody is singing ah,

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and then you just go and then your dance like
that and then you carrying money and anything with your
in your bad context.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
The thing is crazy small, eh.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
You see this, This this drum that they used to
play like this is talking drome and that that drum
actually talks.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
It talks.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
In the Yorba palance, it is said that if they
want to, if they want to scatter the entire place,
they can use that gun going to do it, and
they will scattered, in fact, if gurgle man if for
like one month, because that's their business. If the man
never chop, eh, you know what they would do. They

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will carry that there gaga and then somehow central place
in the community they will just start playing. I tell
you before that evening, somebody, one old person will die, yes, yes, yes,
and then they will go and once the person died

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will come and tell that you want to announce the
date of that person. So they will now go to
the house and start play and start play, and then
people will now know that somebody is dead. And then
what happened, there will be enough. They will declare up
plus whether you have the money or not. When somebody dies,
because it's the crazy madness that we're having Nigeria. When

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somebody dies like this, even if the money that you
didn't use to take care of the person when the
person was sick, you're gonna bring it and then you
declase surplus.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
Eh. It is like somebody.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
Whose wife I just put to bed nine months, even
common pampas you know by and the baby come, you
declare suplas.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
Excuse me, what's happening to us?

Speaker 1 (16:23):
So people give during these programs, why just to be praised,
just to be praised, not because they actually were giving
to bring glory to God. Some give so their names

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will be announced.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
Eh.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
So that it is me I am the one giving.
But that's not what the Bible is teaching us. But
that's kind of giving us no reward from God is
looking at your heart. God is looking at our hearts.

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What is the state of your heart? That's number one.
So let's go to number two. Things that I want
us to see from the Bible today. Number two, God
supplies and rewards faithful give us. He's there in the
verse nine of that place we're read. So you see

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it in this.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
This eight. Rather look at what the Bible says there.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
And God is able to bless how abundantly. When you
say something is abundant, what is the size of abundant?
Immeasurably you can measure it abundantly, so that in all

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things and at all times.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
I in want all that you need.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
But somebody is going to say, ah, but do you
usually have everything I need?

Speaker 2 (18:24):
Let me tell you have what you need, it is
not what you want.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
God is concerned, and that's why Paul when he was writing,
he said, and my God, we supply all that you need,
not what you want.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
There's a difference. There's a difference. So he says, IVN
all that you need.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
What we app you will abound, abounding, mean that you
will have sorts of the flowing supply that you can give,
that you can continue to give again, that you can
continue to gieve in every good work. So what's the

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God the Lord telling us there? When you give with
the right heart, God blesses you. But listen, not always
with money, because that is where the issue is. Many
of us think, and that's why it has become the
church has become a place of transaction. Now HM, So

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if I bring God must give me no. But if
you consider the peace somebody was sharing that God had
instructed the person to speak to a particular person, and

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for some time, the person was reluctant. It didn't want to.
The person doesn't want to. He didn't want to speak
to the person, just to tell the person. And you
know what, as soon as the person decided to even
speak to that person that same week, there was a
gift that came to that person, appreciating the fact that

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the person who took their college to.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
Even warn that person.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
There are times that God is expecting us to give
It is not because he doesn't have in the first place.

Speaker 2 (20:37):
What you have.

Speaker 1 (20:38):
He gave it, and he's saying just part of it,
and then we're still complaining. But when God blesses us,
he could give us opportunities. When God blesses us, he
could make it available. Sufficiency, sufficiency meaning that God will
always make it available.

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You don't know about a begging.

Speaker 1 (21:07):
I pray for deeper understanding of the revelation of the
world of God. Look at this, The more you give faithfully,
the more God trusts you.

Speaker 2 (21:18):
With more.

Speaker 1 (21:23):
Jesus gave the parable of the talent. A man was
giving fife, another man was giving to another, one was
giving one. The one that was giving fife multiplied. The
one that was given to multiply. The one that was
giving one buried it. So some of us we always

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want to keep what we have. No, but that's not
what God wants us to do. A woman in a
local church was known to give small but faithful offering.
When a financial emergency came up, she testified to our

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God provided through unexpected help. Through unexpected help, that's the
God who sees our hearts. God steps into situation for us.
God curses even to run away from us. God blesses

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whichever weigh, just like a way looking at the matter
of prayer being answered, No, you don't dictate to God.
God has the right to do what he wants to do.
But he has promised that he's going to bless and
so whatever he has decided to do is left to him.
But it's going to bless. You made the Lord help

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us in Jesus' name. All right, let's go to number three.
Thing that I want us to get this money a
heart of sacrifice and that's something about giving.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
A heart of sacrifice.

Speaker 1 (23:16):
So let's go to the Book of Marc Chapter twelve
forty one to forty four. Mark chapter twelve forty one
to forty four, Mark twelve forty one to forty four.
Look at what the Bible say is there. Jesus sat

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down opposite the place where the offerings were put and
watched the crowd putting their money into the temple treasury.
Many rich people threw in large amounts, but a poor

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widow came and put in two very small copper coins
worth only a few cents.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
Colin Is disciples to him.

Speaker 1 (24:11):
Jesus said, truly, I tell you, this poor widow has
put more into the treasury than all the others.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
They all gave out of.

Speaker 1 (24:28):
Their wealth, but she, out of her poverty, put in
everything all she had.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
To leave on.

Speaker 1 (24:44):
This is something about God, the institution of marriage. A
man and a woman, we come, eh, and the Bible
says they will do or they will become one.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
You see something that is happening here.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
People who are rich, they were coming with their big
bags of money, and the Bible said Jesus sat down
there and was watching, and he saw all of them
give it. But the conclusion is that the person who
came because she gave out of all she has, and

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that's a big expression from that woman. It is not
about the amount now, so we will see it in details.
So what are the things that we can glean from
that text? Jesus watches how we give? Can you tell

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somebody by your side say, Jesus watches how you give.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
Jesus is always watching how you give.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
Number two things you see in that textis that many
rich people gave large psums, but Jesus noticed the widows
gifts because it was sacrificial. I pray that each time
that you give, either in the church or even to

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other people, that God evils will notice what you are
given in Jesus' name. It is not enough to give,
but does God notice what you are giving? The only
point when God notices such giving is when it is
actually sacrificial.

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What else do we see there? She gave all she
had a heart.

Speaker 1 (26:56):
It shows that she actually has a total trust in God,
total trust in God. I have this all I have,
but I believe that God will provide.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
And that's what she gave.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
Oh pastor is saying that as you're going to bring
all my bank accounts and come and pour it in
the church.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
That is not it, That is not it.

Speaker 1 (27:28):
And that's where we began from the first Corinthian account.
It's about your heart, what have you decided. But it's
not enough about the decision of what you intend to give,
but also that God is expecting a sacrificial giving. And David,

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when David was to sacrifice to the Lord, and God
instructed him that he should sacrifice because of the plague
that was going on in the land and.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
Around now the Jebucide said to.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
When David told him that he wanted that land and
he will pay for it, he said, no, don't pay
for it. I will just give you everything, including all
this thing, for you to do the sacrifice. And he said, no,
I will not give to my God what will cost
me nothing. That's a level of sacrifice. And that's what

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God again is expressing in this text about that woman.
Our motive was not to show off. When we come
to church to give, it is not to show off.

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It's the motive was that of love, that of faith,
that of obedience to the instruction of God. And Jesus
was saying that give m h and it shall be
given unto you. What are we to give? From that text?

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What are we to give? It's not clear. Give anything
that is givable and then it shall be given to you.
What would they give to you? Anything that is givable
to you? And that's the principle of the Kingdom of God.
What is it takeaway? Whether you end one thousand ira

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or one hundred thousand ira. What masters is your motive?

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And faith?

Speaker 1 (29:57):
That widow will be unnoticed in our today's society. Is
that true or not very true? Nobody will notice her.
But meanwhile in the Kingdom of God, she's establishing mansions there.

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But Jesus saw a heart. I pray that Jesus, we
always see your heart, and evans will notice what you
give in the name of Jesus Christ.

Speaker 2 (30:30):
Let's go to number four and that's the final point
I want to bring.

Speaker 1 (30:33):
Out this morning. God measures what we keep, not just
what we give. See, my sister is laughing.

Speaker 2 (30:46):
God is also measuring what you don't give, not just
what you have given. What does this.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
The rich in that text gave out of excess. They
have plenty. Out of plenty that they have, they give.

Speaker 2 (31:13):
The widow gave.

Speaker 1 (31:14):
Out of a lock, which means that there's a day
that you have ten thousand ira, there's another day, and
on that day you could give.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
But now today.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
All you have is just on hundred in ira, and
God wants to see how sacrificial that you are. God
is looking, it's also measuring what we have not given.
So when God is looking at what you have given,
it's also looking at what you have not given. God

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is not asking for what you do not have. And
the Bible says, what do we have that has not
been given to us? Only this life? Even the life
God has given it to us. If God decided it's
going to take that life away from us, who are
you to question God?

Speaker 2 (32:19):
God? Lives have been taken out of people.

Speaker 1 (32:23):
What can they do about it? So God is not looking,
He's not asking for what you don't have. It is
based on what you have. If all that you have
is just ten thousand diar, God is just saying, take
part of it, and I'll go to another explanation later on.

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So it is asking you to trust Him with what
you have. Trust God with what you have. It is
not what you don't have. Another point is that giving
that places God often comes with sacrifice, a cost, that

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shows it comes first. And that's why the encouragement is
that we give our tithes as soon as you know
we receive something, give part of what we want to
give to God.

Speaker 2 (33:28):
That's the encouragement.

Speaker 1 (33:34):
Look at what the Bible says in the Book of
Proverbs Proveraps Eleven twenty four. See, there's some principles in
the Bible.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
That I had to choose. Look at this.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
The Bible says, one person give freely, eh, Yet it
gains more analysis. Somebody is always giving, it's always giving.
And yet the Bible says, the person has more when

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you always give.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
Eh.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
God, we trust you with more, and so you will
always bless you with more. Because I know this one well,
not hide, it will not hold. But look at it.
The Bible now says that I'm not that person with
all unduly.

Speaker 4 (34:37):
Eh.

Speaker 1 (34:39):
Some people everything about them is how they will receive,
how they will receive, how they will receive. I am
in needle, I am in needle all the time. They
are always in need. They don't give, and the Bible say,
what apples they come to poverty? Ah, May the Lord

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deliver us from perverting Jesus name. Sorry to use.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
This description.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
Our nation and Anigeria doesn't give to other nations, but
they are always borrowing.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
You see the reason why we are poor.

Speaker 1 (35:22):
And Angeria is one of the poorest the nations of
the world.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
But we're always borrowing.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
During about just time, you know, they wrote off many
of our debts eh, meaning that they gave it to us.

Speaker 2 (35:40):
Then we went back.

Speaker 1 (35:41):
We start borrowing and borrowing and collecting and collecting, but
never to give. If you're someone that's always receiving and receiving,
you're not giving out.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
You are dead. See. And that's the tropic of dead sea.
For what they have told us about the dead sea.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
Every river comes into the dead sea, but nothing goes
out of the dead sea. Nothing goes out of it.
Stagnant there. And that's the description that God is telling
us here. One person gives idea money life to the

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service of God everything. It is not just about money alone. No,
you are available for the things of God. You are
available to assist other people. You are available to hep
and support. You are available all of these things. Is
part of giving, is part of giving, and the person
as it gives is energised. But somebody that doesn't give
is falling sick. Yet it doesn't give. He doesn't do

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this one, he doesn't do all these other things. It's
fighting challenges.

Speaker 2 (36:59):
How come.

Speaker 1 (37:05):
Give us never lack. Everyone who gives will never lack.
That statement is not a prayer, it's a principle of life.

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It's a strong facts of life. You don't have to
be a Christian. You don't even need to know Jesus.
If you give, you will never lack. Somehow somebody will
come to your head. I pray that God we open

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our eyes in Jesus' name, had attitude that pleases God.
Number One, give with joy, not because you most give
with joy. The Sami says, I was glad when they
said to me, let us go to the house of God.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
Some people, when.

Speaker 1 (38:10):
They say it is time for church, they are sad.
They don't want to come to church. They will have
reasons upon reasons not to come to church. My bellot
is turning me. Something is happening to me, and I
say with joy, not because you must come to church,
not because you much, but because you are happy. Like

(38:32):
the Sami says, I was glad when they said to me,
let us go to the House of the Lord.

Speaker 2 (38:37):
Because a place for you to worship and save your God.

Speaker 1 (38:42):
Give with joy, not because it is a must, even
though it is required of you to give.

Speaker 2 (38:52):
God does not.

Speaker 1 (38:53):
Firsts trust God, don't fear, don't fear, trust him. Be
willing to sacrifice, Be willing to sacrifice.

Speaker 2 (39:10):
Obey God's voice. What is God telling you right about?

Speaker 1 (39:14):
Now? Obey his voice. Let's look at some real life
examples and then.

Speaker 2 (39:24):
I'll be.

Speaker 1 (39:25):
I'll give room. I will summarize it and then interact
real life examples. A wealthy business man in my Tama
gives five hundred thousand and ira offer him every Sunday,

(39:47):
but he spends two million Ira on one dinner. Now
let's understand this description. He's a business man. These are
ways that he could have spent the money. He's a

(40:08):
business man. I could get my business partners because I
want to get business from them, and then go there
and just let's have a business meeting. And then he
decided to spend the two million Iraw that's a possibility,
and God, it's not it's not faulting that it's business.

(40:32):
But just imagine this man is a business man, has
so much money and every Sunday it comes, it gives
five one hundred thousand dora. You know, it makes the ear,
it makes the account of the church to swear right.
But this same person can go and declare surplus with

(40:56):
two million ira get girls and just you know, declares
supplus everywhere. It is not about what has been done,
it's about the value. What value has this percing placed. Meanwhile,

(41:22):
a woman selling tomatoes in caramel market gives two hundred
naira every Sunday, which is our profit from the sales
of tomato. Every two days, she's only able to get
two hundred naira. And then she said that two hundred

(41:42):
naira that are we get for selling tomato in two days.

Speaker 2 (41:48):
And we take that one and give in the church, all.

Speaker 1 (41:52):
Right, But the rest of the two two hundred narra
that will come in the rest of the days of
the week. And we keep that one to myself to
help my family. In God's eyes, who gave more? In

(42:21):
God's eyes, who gave more? It is not what we
are thinking. I prave that God we open our eyes
beyond the letters in the name of Jesus. Sometimes these

(42:41):
principles of the kingdom are so tough, but you know what,
the hand is always peaceful look at this experience again.
A civil servant turning eighty thousand ira monthly decide to
give ten thousand naira as tithe for eighty thousand mira. Normally,

(43:07):
what should have been the tide eight thousand mira. Okay,
so ten percent of that should have been eight thousand ira.
But this person decided, I'm going to give ten thousand mira,
which is above the tide, even when for costs have increased.

(43:27):
School fees I do allelujah. Parents, parents shout allelujah. School
feez is coming is also uh h. But in spite
of all that, that person is giving ten thousand mira.

Speaker 2 (43:45):
To do that.

Speaker 1 (43:45):
This requires faith that God will provide this place. Is
God more than politician who gives one million naira from
money It should not have even half in the first place.
So when they bring it to church, you know where
we're talking about that the other time, whether we should

(44:07):
receive it or not. If they have brought it to
the Lord, we receive it and we use it to
the glory of God. But between you and God, and
that's why you see, it is very important that we

(44:27):
understand what is going on here. It is God who
decides in all of this, He has his principles. All
that God requires from us its obedience. Look at this.
A university student like Shello and Tardita gives one thousand

(44:51):
hour from our five thousand aram monthly. Mister Fanshadow, reduce
what you're giving her every month, please, is part of
the increase it. So she takes one thousand dora out
of five thousand hora to support church mission, fellowship mission
in school, meaning she must walk instead of taking an

(45:13):
acada some days. But you see what that sacrifice of
one thousand era that she's giving to mission work has
touched the heart of God. It doesn't have to be
much the rest of the four thousand era. What is

(45:34):
that going to be for? For other things that you
need to do. But you have taken again that Oh,
this one that should have been for me to take. No,
let me go through this. God will see the heart
and God will bless.

Speaker 2 (45:54):
So personal check.

Speaker 1 (45:59):
Why do you give? Can you ask yourself that question
this morning? Why exactly am I giving? How much do
you really give? Are you a cheerful I mean, are

(46:20):
you cheerful when giving? Or you are grumbling? These people
have come and let's just go and give. Let's just
go there. Let's just drop something that's not just about it.
Do you give only when you have enough? Or do
you trust God even when you have little? Even when

(46:44):
you have little? Do you trust God that's going to
bless you? So let's summarize the point this way. God
values the motive or the reason behind your giving more
than the amounts.

Speaker 2 (47:01):
God is looking at. The reason.

Speaker 1 (47:04):
Is it for you to show off? Or is for
you to glorify God? Cheerful and willing giving places? God
cheerful and willing given places God. The Widow's offering teaches
us about sacrificial giving and trust in God. Giving is

(47:35):
a way to honor God, not to impress people. So
when you bring, that is the reasy. Are you honoring God?
When you bring to God? It is not to impress anybody.
And finally, when we give faithfully, God supplies our needs.

(47:59):
When we give faithfully God, we always supply our needs. Remember,
God sees your heart. He is not impressed by big
envelopes or loud announcements. He is honored by a heart
that gives out of love, faith.

Speaker 2 (48:20):
And joy.

Speaker 1 (48:21):
That is what God is looking at. That is what
God is looking at because God wants to bless us,
so let me say this. Does it mean God is
not asking us for be big money? Bring the big money,

(48:44):
but give it from the heart that is out of love,
out of faith and joy, and me the Lord help
us in Jesus' name. All right, questions and interactions before

(49:10):
we pray. Questions and interactions?

Speaker 2 (49:19):
Okay? One? Two? Just two people? Where's the second mic? Please?
Mister Barnabas and mister came up one of their church someday.

Speaker 4 (49:47):
I told pastor about it that I will not becoming
at if Fred inverted me. So the first time I
actad the church, I said, Bro, your church is beautiful.
You say thank you? So where and it is time
for all three? Then I now went to outside then

(50:08):
and now remove to Aldrednran to Tally places as even
if they want to dance like dlet times after that
is my cot is. I just want to say, you
don't want to dance like Dley times. I have money
to to put so we have many in number. I
don't know why your eyes just flash to me, he said, Bro,

(50:31):
how much are you breaking out?

Speaker 2 (50:33):
It's to organize? Are you saying? To now? Many of them?

Speaker 4 (50:38):
Some of them are breaking five thousands even this mo
children one five, two thousands, he said, at the people
that respect me a lot in my working place.

Speaker 2 (50:48):
Amen, bro, No, you can't do that. I was ashamed.

Speaker 4 (50:53):
Immediately, people that I preach for, we're now telling me
how to give the approaching for me on how to
give the church. I shameless, lady move one thousand another
I put as an a free Immediately I do the
A three I run out of the church.

Speaker 2 (51:13):
Were judging me.

Speaker 4 (51:14):
I said, k Now, you see when I go back
to my church, no wonder, your church is beautiful. If
I go back to my church to ordnarize cancel, that
is that is me. That's my gos to hodnize, cancel
the broad them. But it's just I say, five thousands.
It's worse in the week. Now you know that you

(51:35):
are coming to the church. Praise Master Jesus. So web
pastor is dep preaching about it. Now reflect again and
now say I'm as say it to clear my court
yet Praise Master Jesus.

Speaker 2 (51:48):
Amen.

Speaker 1 (51:49):
Thank you very much, sir. I like the points you made.
Once in a week, many of us we don't even
get to this church environment except once, and it's only
on Sunday, and the only thing that you have of
everything that God has done, your God is so small
that it is only five point fifteen nine that you

(52:10):
can bring to him every week. It's a shame on you.
That's how big your God is. That's how much you
appreciate your God. That's how much you appreciate your God.
And I'm sure the church that you are talking about
is within this our vicinity.

Speaker 2 (52:31):
They are not. They don't have two aids in that place.

Speaker 1 (52:33):
No. I remember when Gary Kee was still struggling, people
were giving out of the little day had. But look
at that church today, the Convention president, while he was there,

(52:55):
that church was always giving as a church. And so
that thing has entered into every member of the church.
And I was sharing with somebody. When is the prayermitting
they don't need to announce in this church? Is only
on Sunday that we give?

Speaker 2 (53:12):
Is not so?

Speaker 1 (53:13):
Which other time do we give? There's none, There is
none in Garrigede. There is nothing that happens in that
church that they don't give. Even if you don't ask them.
The pastor has forgotten. Once you close, like these people,
they will they will open. Because the offa tree boxes

(53:33):
they are always lined up in front like this, they
will come and give.

Speaker 2 (53:40):
That is a level of relationship with God.

Speaker 1 (53:44):
But you see most times when we feel that God
has what exactly has God done for me? And because
God has not done anything, look at that proverbs that
we read. Some people keep holding like this, They keep
holding to themselves, and what is happening? They are getting poorer.

(54:05):
The church you have said, the members are giving. It
is once in a week, once in a week, once
in a week. May God open our eyes.

Speaker 2 (54:19):
See. The principle of the world of God is simple.

Speaker 1 (54:24):
It is what look at somebody decided that it is
five thousand I want to give.

Speaker 2 (54:31):
He gave example of himself.

Speaker 1 (54:32):
Ins still trying to divide the money in his pocket
even to two hundred, instill trying.

Speaker 2 (54:39):
To divide it.

Speaker 1 (54:42):
It's a mentality because you feel that God has not
done anything for me, So why should I give you?
But God, they allow what happened to Job and his
children and to happen to you. Your business did not collapse. Eh,

(55:04):
it is send you out of work. But you come
and the only thing you come and do is just
say this is God, just I beg manage this five
hundred this week. I will see you next week when
I come back. Made the Lord open our eyes. May

(55:25):
the Lord help our hearts.

Speaker 5 (55:30):
Praise a lot, men, Thank you, Thank you person of
the lecture that you're giving us. My questions go like this,
and the example, yes, the teaching that you give us
about politicians and the market women. Now if the politicians,

(55:54):
we are aware the avoided contract and the federal government
removed the money gave him to do the contract of
his constituency, and he didn't do the project, and he
removed some amount of money, brought it to the church.
They supposed to accepted the money. That is my question.

Speaker 2 (56:19):
No, make it clear I say that.

Speaker 5 (56:25):
But yes, the example that you give the for the
politician the market Twolman.

Speaker 2 (56:30):
Yes. Now, if the politicians.

Speaker 5 (56:35):
The constituency requested a work for their side, yes, and
they go through him, Yes, and he submite the proposal
to the government, Yes, and the government approved the contracts okay,
and they give him the money.

Speaker 2 (56:49):
He didn't do the work, okay.

Speaker 5 (56:51):
And now you know removed amount of money inside that
project that he didn't do for the constituency. He brought
it to the church he was supposed to accepted the money. Okay,
So that's a question. Is the church supposed to accept
the money? Is the church supposed to accept the money?

(57:13):
You said, thank you very.

Speaker 2 (57:14):
Much, man.

Speaker 1 (57:15):
So the only reason why the church it is a
gift that you are bringing. The church is not aware
all of this story, their background stories. If the church
is aware, If the church is aware, thank you all right.
So if the church is aware that they of course

(57:38):
the church, sorry, please. The church is part of the community, abby,
and they are aware that the community has gone through
their representative, and they are also aware the government has
approved of the money, and they are also aware that
the money has been paid, and they are also aware

(58:00):
that that's the money is somewhere sitting in the politician's
bank account, and they are aware that he has taken
the money out of that account and he has brought
it to church. That's the scenario, is that not so
the church is aware of all of those steps, which

(58:20):
ideally the church can never be aware of all of that.

Speaker 2 (58:23):
But let's hear prais the Lord.

Speaker 6 (58:27):
From my own point of view, there are gifts and
there are a gift that are meant to shut them
out of the receiver. If that gift bringing to church
is like give you a night food that will not
make the church to say the truth to the power.
I'm of the opinion that the church should not collects

(58:48):
such And recently there was one that happened between Kby's
state government and one of our pastor and then Pastor
Pollinating when during the crusade, the governor sends money to
them like TEXTI maybe three million or texts a million.

(59:09):
As they were back announcing and saying that I want
to use this to support the ministry of.

Speaker 2 (59:16):
Pastor this and this we heard. Even the wife was
the first person saying no, no, no, no, no no.

Speaker 7 (59:21):
So when the pastor we talk, so I see there
are all funds in these states. There are people that
need this money. Take it to them, But are they
going to take it to them? So gifts are not
all the time gifts. So are we advised that the

(59:43):
Church of God should be sensitive.

Speaker 2 (59:44):
And allow the only spirit to guide us in whom
we received from and what we received from them? The
lobby apples and Jesus, and.

Speaker 1 (59:54):
You see, perhaps the church is not even a place
like dunamis the place.

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
It's like she Loo Baptist Church.

Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
And somebody say, and somebody has brought teny million to
the pastor's office, say, pastor, give me the account of
the church, and this money is hot, let me drop
it to the account of the church.

Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
God has led me to do that.

Speaker 1 (01:00:18):
But this is money that you are aware there's supposed
to use for project community project.

Speaker 2 (01:00:25):
Should the church take it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:28):
Or not? He gets as he b and b as
he gets praise the Lord after mister Patrick mamadicness Bardi.

Speaker 3 (01:00:50):
Yes, after what moment I've just said. I think I
think recently it's like the f City minister worship with
Apostolic Church. I don't know, maybe probably he grew grew
up from that church, so he visited a particular district.
So he went to the church and was like trying
to you know, trying to monetize the church and influence

(01:01:10):
them on their voting patterns, you understand. So recently the
hierarchy of the church came out and said that's that
should be the firsts and the last that any politician
will visit their church to try to influence them on
who to vote for or on how to go about.

Speaker 2 (01:01:27):
Their voting im patterns.

Speaker 3 (01:01:29):
You understand, because some of these politicians, we're talking politicians
we are talking about. Some of them are outside the outside,
their conturt jobs, their businessmen. I don't think there's no how.
Even there are criminals that will go we will go
out there, you understand. Raw people will still come back
to church, you understand, and go to church and job offerings.
So like those politicians we are talking about their businessmen,

(01:01:51):
there is no how you identify that this particular money
was taken from the contract awarded, and this particular money
is from their business aspect. So I feel that whatever
that is brought to church is left between you and
your God.

Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
Thank you, sir, thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:02:05):
My man.

Speaker 1 (01:02:06):
Dickness, Oh there I said your mind, Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:02:11):
Praise the Lord. Amen.

Speaker 4 (01:02:14):
As human beings, we should look at money from each size,
like in this church. We have seen the way we
come to church and the way we look. Invariably, we
don't know each one's account, but from the look at
of things, you can be able to know that this
person heed this amount, this person heed this amount, and

(01:02:38):
if by tomorrow I should come here to give thirty million,
there should be questions around like a case we're handled
in soccer.

Speaker 2 (01:02:51):
Somebody ran to you.

Speaker 4 (01:02:54):
And say give me ten thousand, give me ten thousand,
I will sende it for thirty million.

Speaker 2 (01:03:00):
It's got a questioning.

Speaker 4 (01:03:02):
Sure, you are asking me for ten thousand and you
are giving me thirty million. Why not go with that
thirty million? Why do you want to which means in
the first place, you must know that that thirty million
is deity. He wants to drop that day thirty million
with you and go with your ten thousand.

Speaker 2 (01:03:19):
And that was what's happened all these people. That's and.

Speaker 4 (01:03:28):
They enter into somebody's account. Then he wants these Pews
people to give him ten thousand, and after collecting the
ten thousands from pos, he now enter into another person's
account and transfer that a million. And when the ICI

(01:03:49):
icip you see people was checking the account, they came
and hold the fewers. I was not the person somebody
transferred into my cant and he has this appeared. So
we must make use of our behavior, even why in
the church, even why in the market, thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:04:08):
Thank you. We must be people of integrity. We must
be people of integrity.

Speaker 1 (01:04:16):
Yes, we may not know whether or not that money,
as some of them are business people, and let's not
take that out of it, all right, But then as
a church, as a church we must leave under the
influence of the power of the Oly Spirit to guide

(01:04:38):
us in anything such as that. It's not just even
about politician illum, but people who are not politicians. So
let's take it out of those who are not even politician.
It's not just about politician illue. Do we just receive
anything just because it's coming from Uh? This is where
you are aware. But if you're not aware the person

(01:04:59):
has brought a gift to the church. Why should I question?
It is between you and God, and you have brought
it to God. You have left it on the Lord's
table let. It be used for the work of mission.
It's all about that. But then between you and God
the matter will be sorted out. Made the Lord guide

(01:05:20):
our thoughts. May the Low strengthen our beliefs. In Jesus' name.
All right, let us spray. Father, Let us seed of

(01:05:41):
your word mix up with faith in our lives. That
we bear much fruit, fruit that we love last generations.
As we go this week, go with us. Lord.

Speaker 2 (01:06:00):
In Jesus' name, we pray
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