May 29, 2024 • 17 mins
Gremlins are the goblins of the sky. Legend has it that they are responsible for mishaps and damage to planes. In World War II, stories of gremlins united allies and boosted morale, but you might want to look out for them next time you're on a plane. Michelle tells us the story.
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(00:00):
It's dream phone. Basically, youhave to find out who has a crush
on you, so you have tolike call all these numbers and then it's
like a recording of like this guy'sreally good at sports? Is it like
an actual device? Is an actualdevice? Phone? It's a pink phone
that you dial. But yes,I had to buy it because it was
one of those games that was justlike too high tech for my parents to
(00:20):
understand at the time. I alwayswanted Monopoly, actually, but they always
told me that I had no oneto play with, and they were right.
Welcome to Scary Mystery Surprise, wherewe talk about scary things that surprised
us around the Internet. I'm Edwinand I'm Michelle Edwin. You're on a
(00:44):
plane, possibly a Boeing plane.Jeez, that reminds me of the If
it's Boeing, I ain't going where'dthat come from? I like, I
think it was on Instagram comment.But anyway, you're a nervous flyer.
This is the first time you've beenon a plane in a while. You
(01:06):
have a drink, You flip throughthe channels on your in flight screen.
Everything is fine, you'll be homesoon. You're feeling good, you're mentally
sound. Everything's fine. But yes, you did have just a little delicate
mental breakdown a little bit ago,so which we've all been there. It's
(01:29):
no big deal. True. That'swhen you see it. There's a strange
creature on the wing of the plane. How could this be? You are
traveling at high speeds and altitudes andanything out there would freeze to death.
You blink. The creature is nowface to face with you in the window,
breathing on the glass. Oh youcan see it fogging the glass with
(01:55):
its breath as it stares you deepin the eyes. I mean, how
would you feel seeing that? Youknow, you're almost on a plane every
week. So no, like uhuh, like what is it? Like?
What does it look like? It'slike a human face? Is it
like a bird? Is it?But you know, I kind of like
left it out. I'm going likea little gobblin esque thing. But this
(02:16):
has got to be your mind playingtricks on you, right, Like the
doctor said, don't drink on thebrain meds, you get it. This
is what they're talking about. Soyou put your drink down, you focus
on your screen like you're gonna justwatch some TV. You know, the
office reruns are playing in front ofyou. You take a deep breath,
(02:38):
You shut your eyes, another deepbreath. You look back at the window.
The creature is now staring at yourscreen, also watching the office.
It feels you look at it andgives you a little smile, then does
a backflip away from the window furtherdown the wing. Heh. It holds
(03:00):
contact with you, but slowly kneelsdown and starts scratching at the wing,
pulling it and warping parts of themetal with its hands. Oh no,
or claws. Hands are claused.You bang on the window. The thing
is shredding the metal and dismantling thewing midair. The airplane's gonna crash.
(03:21):
This is bad, obviously, areon high alert, all anxiety through the
roof. You bang on the window, You try and stop the creature.
It maintains eye contact with you,pulling the wing apart, with a sick
smile on its face. It's likea cat in it's litter box, and
it's making direct eye contact with youwhile it's doing that, And it's like
(03:42):
strangely intimate but also like a dominancething. So anyway, that's what this
thing is doing. It's uh,shredding the wing. Now, I will
probably push that button and call theflight attendant. You do, you call
for the stewardess. You put thatbutton. You're just like, there's something
on the wing. And she takesa peak. She sees nothing, and
(04:03):
she's like, sir, I'm gonnaneed you to calmp down. And you
follow her gaze to the window andnothing's out there. As she turns away,
you see the creature pop up againand it waves at you and then
continues to shred the wing. Jeez, you're like, look it's right there.
(04:25):
Look it's right there. You screamlike you're just like, h it's
right there. The other passengers aregetting nervous because you're acting nuts. I
think we've all been on a planeat this point where maybe someone was a
little bit weird. I literally wason a plane on my way to Ireland
and the guy next to me hada night terror in the middle of the
night, so, uh, youknow, yeah, you know what actually
(04:46):
hurt? Somebody crying singing this flight, But I was so drowsy that I
just kind of ignored it. Buteverybody was peeking, like. It does
make you nervous because you're like,what if something happened and you see the
right the flight attendants running up theaisle, it's weird, bizarre, well,
and it's also like, am Igonna have to do something? Like
are you am I gonna have tostop somebody? Or what's going on?
Like you're gonna need my belt totie someone's arms with? And I don't
(05:12):
know, you know, like what'sgoing on? But anyway, the passengers
are getting nervous. You're acting irrational, don't you see it? It's right
there. The plane is gonna crashand we're all gonna die. Oh no,
that gets you kicked out of aflight. Like that's you can go
to jail for that. I thinkthe steward is like, sir, I'm
gonna need you to calm down.You're upsetting the other passengers and you won't
(05:34):
calm down. How can nobody seethis thing on the wing ripping it apart?
The creature waves and smiles at you. You stand up and you run
down the aisle. We've got toland this plane. It's gonna crash at
this moment. An air marshal stepsin along with every other steward is an
alpha male on the plane. Someonetackles you to the ground and you feel
(05:56):
restraints being put on you. Asyou start to pass out. You hear
over the intercome, ladies and gentlemen, we'll be making an emergency landing for
a medical emergency. We apologize forthe delay. You look out the window
from the ground, you see thelittle creature looking at you. It smiles
before the world finally goes black.When you wake up, the plane is
(06:18):
on the ground. You are strappedto a stretcher being put in an ambulance.
You start screaming as they shut thedoors. Check the wing, Check
the wing. For the remaining passengerson the plane, it's been an unnerving
day. They're still on the tarmacwhen the captain crackles on the radio,
(06:40):
Sorry for the delay, folks,We've just been hit with some more bad
news. Maintenance has found some strangegashes to the wing. We won't be
departing after all. This elicits angrygroans from the passengers and the faintest giggle.
Heehe. My story that I justtold is based on that nightmare at
(07:04):
two thousand feet that episode of theTwilight Zone. If you guys have ever
seen it, Yeah, with WilliamShatner. It's a classic episode. The
thing is, I'm sure Boeing wouldlove this kind of excuse of there being
like a weird little thing on thewing for what's going on. Because airline
or technology gremlins are nothing new.These folklore creatures have taken much of the
(07:31):
blame for malfunctions and machinery around theworld since World War II around technology.
You said, yeah, the technologygremlins. Gremlins are a specific thing geared
toward technology. They're different and actuallythere's a bunch of military posters that have
slogans like gremlins think it's fun tohurt you, use care always. Gremlins
(07:56):
are floor greasers, watch your step. Gremlins love to pitch stuff at your
eyes where your goggles. Wow,okay, so first time I ever hear
of something like that. That's reallycool. Gremlins as a concept was popularized
during World War Two among airmen ofthe Royal Air Force RAF, described as
little men that would sabotage aircraft.And I think of like a leprechaun,
(08:22):
a Tommy Knocker or goblin and imp, you know, like that kind of
thing. Although in these posters theyare just like little men, tiny men
that are tripping people in Greece andstuff like that. So that's just some
little mischievous little yeah, described aslittle men that would sabotage in aircraft.
Flight Crews would blame these scissor wieldinggremlins for inexplicable accidents which sometimes occur during
(08:48):
flights, you know, because itwas a new technology at that time.
And some people say this actually tracksback to World War One, but apparently
there's no documents per se, becausethis was like a part of the campaign
in World War Two. This waspart of the folklore in World War Two,
especially among British soldiers in the BritishAir Force. Gremlins were also thought
(09:11):
at one point to have enemy sympathies, but investigations revealed that enemy aircraft had
similar and equally inexplicable mechanical problems.As such, gremlins were portrayed as equal
opportunity tricksters, taking no sides inthe conflict, but acting out of their
own mischievous and self interest. AhSee, they don't pick sides, they
(09:33):
just now go against everyone. Yep, they're just little shits. It is
argued that this folklore became morale boostingduring the war, and it might have
even helped win the war because gremlinswere a form of deflecting blame, being
the scapegoat, which became super importantto morale during the war because it's far
(09:56):
easier to blame a fantastic, comicallittle cree picture that it is to blame
a member of your own squad.If say, your oil leaks out of
your plane, instead of being madat Johnny, you could be mad at
a little gremlin that sabotaged you.Clearly, that's kind of nice, I
(10:16):
know. The gremlin lore actually spreadbeyond the Royal Air Force by author Ruldahl.
His story Gremlins sold fifty thousand copiesin nineteen forty three. Dahl had
his own experience and an accidental crashlanding in the Western desert when he ran
out of fuel. It was therethat he wrote his first children's novel,
(10:39):
The Gremlins, in which the gremlinswere the tiny men who lived on RAF
fighters. And then this went onto inspire there's the movie Gremlins, there's
the Simpsons episode, I mean,obviously the Twilight Zone episode that I talked
about earlier. And there's like toomany things to mention. It's like that
spread that gremlins folklore everywhere, Butalso there were a lot of men coming
(11:03):
home from the war who were saidto have encountered gremlins whoa like actual encounters.
Yeah, like actual encounters that tinkeredwith their equipment. One crewman swore
he saw one before an engine malfunctionthat caused his B twenty five Mitchell bomber
to rapidly lose altitude, forcing theaircraft to return to base. Folklorus John
W. Hasn't, likewise, offershis own alleged eyewitness testimony of these creatures,
(11:28):
describing an occasion where he found aparted cable which bore obvious tooth marks,
in spite of the fact that thebreak occurred in the most inaccessible part
of the plane. At this point. Has In states he heard a gruff
voice demand, how many times mustyou be told to obey orders and not
tackle jobs you aren't qualified for?This is how it should be done upon
(11:54):
which Hasn't heard a musical twang wang, And another cable was parted, so
another cable broke after what, Yeah, gremlins are weird. They just hate
technology. They want to destroy it, and they make things go wrong and
everything that is technological. I mean, it's so interesting to see this come
(12:15):
up. Number one is used formorale during war. But also this type
of description of this type of creaturewould not exist without the Industrial Revolution,
without machinery. There's no such thingas a gremlin in machinery. Geez,
it just sounds creepy though, Liketo see the William Shatner Twilight Zone episode,
(12:35):
it's like a man in an apecostume. I guess it struggled a
little bit with visuals back then,but people a should believe this. Critics
of course, claim that, youknow the stress of combat, the dizzy
and heights would cause hallucinations, right, I mean, you're in a plane
at war, so it makes sensethat you it might have been a coping
mechanism just to help explain the problemsthat happened during combat when something goes wrong.
(13:00):
So yeah, it makes sense.Like the fumes, the fumes not
exactly the most safe environment to bein, so hallucinations possible. I don't
know. I bet Boeen would loveto attribute all their problems with the Max
to the gremlins. Don't you thinkit would be a really nice gut out
of jail free card. I needto check my flight right now. Yeah,
(13:22):
you don't want to be on aMax, dude, I think it's
a Max. That's bad news.But anyway, I just want to link
back to the iconic William Shatner episodeof The Twilight Zone because there's an episode
of The Muppets where Ms. Piggysees a gremlin on the outside of the
airplane through the window. All thoseare references to the same thing. Yeah,
all of it's referenced to that episode. But anyway, William Shatner is
(13:43):
sitting next to her on the planeand as he claims that he's been complaining
about the gremlin for years but nobodydoes anything about it, which I love.
Oh, I found It's nightmare attwenty thousand feet. Yeah, it's
an iconic episode. I mean,it's in The Simpsons. Bart sees a
(14:03):
thing on a on a plane andlike no one believes it. I mean,
like it's a reference for everything.A lot of Twilight Zone episodes are
like that. They're just so ingrained. Now, Wow, Rod Sterling's a
very good writer. At the endthat they recognize that it was the guy
that I guess at the end ofyour story, but the wing so at
(14:24):
the end of the story. Theyjust take him away in a stray jacket
and they they do find the damage, but they don't like acknowledge that he
was right. He's lost his mind. That sucks. Okay, that's why
it's relevant that he has had amental breakdown already, because he's already delicate,
so he's gotta be taken away.But yeah, I just love that
William Shatner is sitting next to MissPiggy and like validating her seeing the gremlin
(14:50):
on the that's a creepy image thoughwith the Twilight Zone. Oh yeah,
cover whatever, like just the mainimage of the thing looking at the window.
That's a huge window. I know. Well it's a huge gremlin gremlin.
It's like a man and a thing. Wow. Yeah, I think
he'd like the Twilight Zone stuff.You know what Gremlins or what I think
(15:11):
of like Duende's and goblins and allthose things are known to be very mischievous
creatures that mess around hydro's stuff,hydri Keys drop things like they just they
just want to mess with you.So it makes sense that the gremlin idea.
But gremlins for me are creepier,like creepy looking. I know.
There's also that movie, Well,just gremlins. I guess where it's like
(15:33):
Gizmo and which they're cute and thatthe gremlins are cute there. Oh geez
no, I just remember that weirdugly one and they turn it. Do
you feed them after that? Isthat the feed you feed them after midnight
or something like that and then theyturn into that weird thing or you get
them wet? Uh? Apparently inthe roll Doll lore it's like, oh,
(15:56):
what did gremlins eat postage stamp?Just like wait, so they ride
on Royal Air Force planes and thenthey eat pastage stamps. I don't yeah,
wait, I'm not understanding how doesthis work? I guess that does
sound like a hallucination if you reallylike think about it. Yeah, it's
(16:17):
just it doesn't make any sense.But I mean, look, hey,
it helped win the war. That'sall they need. That's good. Yeah,
thank you Gremlins for your morale boosters. That are gremlins. It's like
pizza parties. Yeah, just likepizza parties. Yeah. Anyway, what
are we going to talk about nextweek? Edwin? I don't know.
(16:38):
I think it'll be a surprise scarymystery Surprise is hosted by Michelle Newman and
Edwin Comarubyes. This podcast was editedand sound designed by Sarah Borhe's Wendel a VW sound
It's dream phone. Basically, youhave to find out who has a crush
on you, so you have tolike call all these numbers and then it's
like a recording of like this guy'sreally good at sports? Is it like
an actual device? Is an actualdevice? Phone? It's a pink phone
that you dial. But yes,I had to buy it because it was
one of those games that was justlike too high tech for my parents to
(00:20):
understand at the time. I alwayswanted Monopoly, actually, but they always
told me that I had no oneto play with, and they were right.
Welcome to Scary Mystery Surprise, wherewe talk about scary things that surprised
us around the Internet. I'm Edwinand I'm Michelle Edwin. You're on a
(00:44):
plane, possibly a Boeing plane.Jeez, that reminds me of the If
it's Boeing, I ain't going where'dthat come from? I like, I
think it was on Instagram comment.But anyway, you're a nervous flyer.
This is the first time you've beenon a plane in a while. You
(01:06):
have a drink, You flip throughthe channels on your in flight screen.
Everything is fine, you'll be homesoon. You're feeling good, you're mentally
sound. Everything's fine. But yes, you did have just a little delicate
mental breakdown a little bit ago,so which we've all been there. It's
(01:29):
no big deal. True. That'swhen you see it. There's a strange
creature on the wing of the plane. How could this be? You are
traveling at high speeds and altitudes andanything out there would freeze to death.
You blink. The creature is nowface to face with you in the window,
breathing on the glass. Oh youcan see it fogging the glass with
(01:55):
its breath as it stares you deepin the eyes. I mean, how
would you feel seeing that? Youknow, you're almost on a plane every
week. So no, like uhuh, like what is it? Like?
What does it look like? It'slike a human face? Is it
like a bird? Is it?But you know, I kind of like
left it out. I'm going likea little gobblin esque thing. But this
(02:16):
has got to be your mind playingtricks on you, right, Like the
doctor said, don't drink on thebrain meds, you get it. This
is what they're talking about. Soyou put your drink down, you focus
on your screen like you're gonna justwatch some TV. You know, the
office reruns are playing in front ofyou. You take a deep breath,
(02:38):
You shut your eyes, another deepbreath. You look back at the window.
The creature is now staring at yourscreen, also watching the office.
It feels you look at it andgives you a little smile, then does
a backflip away from the window furtherdown the wing. Heh. It holds
(03:00):
contact with you, but slowly kneelsdown and starts scratching at the wing,
pulling it and warping parts of themetal with its hands. Oh no,
or claws. Hands are claused.You bang on the window. The thing
is shredding the metal and dismantling thewing midair. The airplane's gonna crash.
(03:21):
This is bad, obviously, areon high alert, all anxiety through the
roof. You bang on the window, You try and stop the creature.
It maintains eye contact with you,pulling the wing apart, with a sick
smile on its face. It's likea cat in it's litter box, and
it's making direct eye contact with youwhile it's doing that, And it's like
(03:42):
strangely intimate but also like a dominancething. So anyway, that's what this
thing is doing. It's uh,shredding the wing. Now, I will
probably push that button and call theflight attendant. You do, you call
for the stewardess. You put thatbutton. You're just like, there's something
on the wing. And she takesa peak. She sees nothing, and
(04:03):
she's like, sir, I'm gonnaneed you to calmp down. And you
follow her gaze to the window andnothing's out there. As she turns away,
you see the creature pop up againand it waves at you and then
continues to shred the wing. Jeez, you're like, look it's right there.
(04:25):
Look it's right there. You screamlike you're just like, h it's
right there. The other passengers aregetting nervous because you're acting nuts. I
think we've all been on a planeat this point where maybe someone was a
little bit weird. I literally wason a plane on my way to Ireland
and the guy next to me hada night terror in the middle of the
night, so, uh, youknow, yeah, you know what actually
(04:46):
hurt? Somebody crying singing this flight, But I was so drowsy that I
just kind of ignored it. Buteverybody was peeking, like. It does
make you nervous because you're like,what if something happened and you see the
right the flight attendants running up theaisle, it's weird, bizarre, well,
and it's also like, am Igonna have to do something? Like
are you am I gonna have tostop somebody? Or what's going on?
Like you're gonna need my belt totie someone's arms with? And I don't
(05:12):
know, you know, like what'sgoing on? But anyway, the passengers
are getting nervous. You're acting irrational, don't you see it? It's right
there. The plane is gonna crashand we're all gonna die. Oh no,
that gets you kicked out of aflight. Like that's you can go
to jail for that. I thinkthe steward is like, sir, I'm
gonna need you to calm down.You're upsetting the other passengers and you won't
(05:34):
calm down. How can nobody seethis thing on the wing ripping it apart?
The creature waves and smiles at you. You stand up and you run
down the aisle. We've got toland this plane. It's gonna crash at
this moment. An air marshal stepsin along with every other steward is an
alpha male on the plane. Someonetackles you to the ground and you feel
(05:56):
restraints being put on you. Asyou start to pass out. You hear
over the intercome, ladies and gentlemen, we'll be making an emergency landing for
a medical emergency. We apologize forthe delay. You look out the window
from the ground, you see thelittle creature looking at you. It smiles
before the world finally goes black.When you wake up, the plane is
(06:18):
on the ground. You are strappedto a stretcher being put in an ambulance.
You start screaming as they shut thedoors. Check the wing, Check
the wing. For the remaining passengerson the plane, it's been an unnerving
day. They're still on the tarmacwhen the captain crackles on the radio,
(06:40):
Sorry for the delay, folks,We've just been hit with some more bad
news. Maintenance has found some strangegashes to the wing. We won't be
departing after all. This elicits angrygroans from the passengers and the faintest giggle.
Heehe. My story that I justtold is based on that nightmare at
(07:04):
two thousand feet that episode of theTwilight Zone. If you guys have ever
seen it, Yeah, with WilliamShatner. It's a classic episode. The
thing is, I'm sure Boeing wouldlove this kind of excuse of there being
like a weird little thing on thewing for what's going on. Because airline
or technology gremlins are nothing new.These folklore creatures have taken much of the
(07:31):
blame for malfunctions and machinery around theworld since World War II around technology.
You said, yeah, the technologygremlins. Gremlins are a specific thing geared
toward technology. They're different and actuallythere's a bunch of military posters that have
slogans like gremlins think it's fun tohurt you, use care always. Gremlins
(07:56):
are floor greasers, watch your step. Gremlins love to pitch stuff at your
eyes where your goggles. Wow,okay, so first time I ever hear
of something like that. That's reallycool. Gremlins as a concept was popularized
during World War Two among airmen ofthe Royal Air Force RAF, described as
little men that would sabotage aircraft.And I think of like a leprechaun,
(08:22):
a Tommy Knocker or goblin and imp, you know, like that kind of
thing. Although in these posters theyare just like little men, tiny men
that are tripping people in Greece andstuff like that. So that's just some
little mischievous little yeah, described aslittle men that would sabotage in aircraft.
Flight Crews would blame these scissor wieldinggremlins for inexplicable accidents which sometimes occur during
(08:48):
flights, you know, because itwas a new technology at that time.
And some people say this actually tracksback to World War One, but apparently
there's no documents per se, becausethis was like a part of the campaign
in World War Two. This waspart of the folklore in World War Two,
especially among British soldiers in the BritishAir Force. Gremlins were also thought
(09:11):
at one point to have enemy sympathies, but investigations revealed that enemy aircraft had
similar and equally inexplicable mechanical problems.As such, gremlins were portrayed as equal
opportunity tricksters, taking no sides inthe conflict, but acting out of their
own mischievous and self interest. AhSee, they don't pick sides, they
(09:33):
just now go against everyone. Yep, they're just little shits. It is
argued that this folklore became morale boostingduring the war, and it might have
even helped win the war because gremlinswere a form of deflecting blame, being
the scapegoat, which became super importantto morale during the war because it's far
(09:56):
easier to blame a fantastic, comicallittle cree picture that it is to blame
a member of your own squad.If say, your oil leaks out of
your plane, instead of being madat Johnny, you could be mad at
a little gremlin that sabotaged you.Clearly, that's kind of nice, I
(10:16):
know. The gremlin lore actually spreadbeyond the Royal Air Force by author Ruldahl.
His story Gremlins sold fifty thousand copiesin nineteen forty three. Dahl had
his own experience and an accidental crashlanding in the Western desert when he ran
out of fuel. It was therethat he wrote his first children's novel,
(10:39):
The Gremlins, in which the gremlinswere the tiny men who lived on RAF
fighters. And then this went onto inspire there's the movie Gremlins, there's
the Simpsons episode, I mean,obviously the Twilight Zone episode that I talked
about earlier. And there's like toomany things to mention. It's like that
spread that gremlins folklore everywhere, Butalso there were a lot of men coming
(11:03):
home from the war who were saidto have encountered gremlins whoa like actual encounters.
Yeah, like actual encounters that tinkeredwith their equipment. One crewman swore
he saw one before an engine malfunctionthat caused his B twenty five Mitchell bomber
to rapidly lose altitude, forcing theaircraft to return to base. Folklorus John
W. Hasn't, likewise, offershis own alleged eyewitness testimony of these creatures,
(11:28):
describing an occasion where he found aparted cable which bore obvious tooth marks,
in spite of the fact that thebreak occurred in the most inaccessible part
of the plane. At this point. Has In states he heard a gruff
voice demand, how many times mustyou be told to obey orders and not
tackle jobs you aren't qualified for?This is how it should be done upon
(11:54):
which Hasn't heard a musical twang wang, And another cable was parted, so
another cable broke after what, Yeah, gremlins are weird. They just hate
technology. They want to destroy it, and they make things go wrong and
everything that is technological. I mean, it's so interesting to see this come
(12:15):
up. Number one is used formorale during war. But also this type
of description of this type of creaturewould not exist without the Industrial Revolution,
without machinery. There's no such thingas a gremlin in machinery. Geez,
it just sounds creepy though, Liketo see the William Shatner Twilight Zone episode,
(12:35):
it's like a man in an apecostume. I guess it struggled a
little bit with visuals back then,but people a should believe this. Critics
of course, claim that, youknow the stress of combat, the dizzy
and heights would cause hallucinations, right, I mean, you're in a plane
at war, so it makes sensethat you it might have been a coping
mechanism just to help explain the problemsthat happened during combat when something goes wrong.
(13:00):
So yeah, it makes sense.Like the fumes, the fumes not
exactly the most safe environment to bein, so hallucinations possible. I don't
know. I bet Boeen would loveto attribute all their problems with the Max
to the gremlins. Don't you thinkit would be a really nice gut out
of jail free card. I needto check my flight right now. Yeah,
(13:22):
you don't want to be on aMax, dude, I think it's
a Max. That's bad news.But anyway, I just want to link
back to the iconic William Shatner episodeof The Twilight Zone because there's an episode
of The Muppets where Ms. Piggysees a gremlin on the outside of the
airplane through the window. All thoseare references to the same thing. Yeah,
all of it's referenced to that episode. But anyway, William Shatner is
(13:43):
sitting next to her on the planeand as he claims that he's been complaining
about the gremlin for years but nobodydoes anything about it, which I love.
Oh, I found It's nightmare attwenty thousand feet. Yeah, it's
an iconic episode. I mean,it's in The Simpsons. Bart sees a
(14:03):
thing on a on a plane andlike no one believes it. I mean,
like it's a reference for everything.A lot of Twilight Zone episodes are
like that. They're just so ingrained. Now, Wow, Rod Sterling's a
very good writer. At the endthat they recognize that it was the guy
that I guess at the end ofyour story, but the wing so at
(14:24):
the end of the story. Theyjust take him away in a stray jacket
and they they do find the damage, but they don't like acknowledge that he
was right. He's lost his mind. That sucks. Okay, that's why
it's relevant that he has had amental breakdown already, because he's already delicate,
so he's gotta be taken away.But yeah, I just love that
William Shatner is sitting next to MissPiggy and like validating her seeing the gremlin
(14:50):
on the that's a creepy image thoughwith the Twilight Zone. Oh yeah,
cover whatever, like just the mainimage of the thing looking at the window.
That's a huge window. I know. Well it's a huge gremlin gremlin.
It's like a man and a thing. Wow. Yeah, I think
he'd like the Twilight Zone stuff.You know what Gremlins or what I think
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of like Duende's and goblins and allthose things are known to be very mischievous
creatures that mess around hydro's stuff,hydri Keys drop things like they just they
just want to mess with you.So it makes sense that the gremlin idea.
But gremlins for me are creepier,like creepy looking. I know.
There's also that movie, Well,just gremlins. I guess where it's like
(15:33):
Gizmo and which they're cute and thatthe gremlins are cute there. Oh geez
no, I just remember that weirdugly one and they turn it. Do
you feed them after that? Isthat the feed you feed them after midnight
or something like that and then theyturn into that weird thing or you get
them wet? Uh? Apparently inthe roll Doll lore it's like, oh,
(15:56):
what did gremlins eat postage stamp?Just like wait, so they ride
on Royal Air Force planes and thenthey eat pastage stamps. I don't yeah,
wait, I'm not understanding how doesthis work? I guess that does
sound like a hallucination if you reallylike think about it. Yeah, it's
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just it doesn't make any sense.But I mean, look, hey,
it helped win the war. That'sall they need. That's good. Yeah,
thank you Gremlins for your morale boosters. That are gremlins. It's like
pizza parties. Yeah, just likepizza parties. Yeah. Anyway, what
are we going to talk about nextweek? Edwin? I don't know.
(16:38):
I think it'll be a surprise scarymystery Surprise is hosted by Michelle Newman and
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