May 9, 2025 • 23 mins
Dr. John Stamey interviews Matt Delph about a major Bigfoot Hoax and the Navajo Rangers
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Good evening in life from Myrtle Beach, South Carolina. This
is Doctor John Stamy and I want to welcome everyone too,
Scary Cast. We've got an incredible show. We've got incredible
shows all week on the eve of the Bigfoot Comic
Con here in Myrtle Beach. It's going to be a
blast this coming Saturday, May May tenth at the Sheraton
(00:25):
four Points. So come out and join us. Me, Marshall Biddle,
Banana Jack Murphy, We've got Matt Delf with us. We've
got Jessica Jones, We've got of Mike Famelot, David Pardue,
n C Investigates d NR Paranormal, and of course Doctor
(00:49):
John Stamy with a special guest. So it'll be a
lot of fun. Matt Delf, you're with us tonight. How
are you doing tonight, Buddy.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
I'm doing excellent. Looking forward to this weekend.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Well good, we're looking forward to having you here. I mean,
it's always good to see you. All right. You've got
a couple of stories that I find extremely extremely interesting.
In a week where we're discussing Bigfoot spouce and crazy
stories about Bigfoot that turn out not to be true.
We started talking about a gentleman named Rick Dyer today
(01:24):
on the phone, didn't.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
We Yes, yes, we did tell us the Rick Dyer story.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
You know it and very well, and I think it'll
be it'll be a lot of fun for people to hear.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Well. Rick Dyer, he's known in the Bigfoot community as
one of the most known hopes that's out there. He is.
Back in two thousand and eight, he had a him
and another gentleman I forget his name at the moment,
but they had claimed they had a bigfoot body. They
(02:00):
got it out of the North Georgia woods and they
was going to present it to the world, and they
had it in a freezer. There was a picture that
went online. It was all over the place. They was
going to do a press conference, it was all over
Fox News all these other news stations that covered it.
And then all of a sudden it came out as
(02:21):
a hoax, that they were just hoaxing. Uh. There was
a gentleman, Tom Bascardi, if people are familiar with him
in the big Buck community, he had purchased Uh. I
guess I don't know part of the body and the uh,
(02:43):
the actual body. They said that whenever they did testing
it was a costume and insides of apossum, and all
of a sudden, you know, he paid fifty thousand dollars.
Now they're saying as a hoax. That went publicly and
said it was a hoax. And but what's really really
(03:10):
out my eye about this whole thing. They keep okay,
and he keeps reminding the community he's a hoaxer. He
had went some few years ago. He had come around
saying he had a big foot body and he was
going touring around Texas with this bigfoot body, charging people
twenty bucks to check it out. And you could see
just by looking at the what he had showed a
(03:31):
picture of it was totally fake. But one thing that
stands out about this whole situation fifty thousand dollars Tom
scard he was out of fifty grand. That's that's fraud.
How many people do you know that do fifty thousand
(03:52):
dollars worth of fraud and don't get any type of
jail time or any sentence or any trouble for nobody.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
So something's up with Tom Bascarty.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Yeah, either he was in on it or as Rick
Dyer had claimed before, that the government had come in
told him, shut up, tell everybody it was a hoax,
and so on. And the picture that I see now
online that they're showing is it doesn't look it looks
(04:30):
totally fake. But the very first time that they had
shown the picture, it looked more real. I don't know
if it's just a mindset or if the picture has changed.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Well, okay, I've got a question for you. First of all,
what year did all this occur?
Speaker 2 (04:51):
I believe it's two thousand and eight, And you want
to hear something pretty wild. Twenty minutes twenty minutes from
where I live at Ewing, Virginia. You cross over twenty
minutes across the state line, go through the Cumberland Gap
Tunnel in the Middlesboro, Kentucky. You know what you will
find there at the UH the Historical Society. There who
(05:19):
you will find You will find that seven foot seven
costume that supposedly was the Rick Dyer hoax.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Now, how far away is that from where you live?
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Twenty minutes? Twenty minutes away, Matt, I'm going to.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Ask you a personal favor. Can you go there and
take me a picture and send it to me?
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Yes, of course, yep. I just got to figure out
the hours of it and go down there and check
it out. Kind of wild, you know that being that
close and the costume supposedly this costume was seven foots seven.
You know who makes seven foot seven costumes?
Speaker 1 (06:07):
I h I don't know who makes seven foot seven costumes.
But that's a big undertaking, no pun intended.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
And everybody keeps saying, oh, he's a hoaxer. He said
he was a hoaxer. He admitted it. But you're gonna
do what you're gonna do. When big brother steps in
and they said, oh he keeps hoaxing? Does it every
few years? Well you got to remind people, Hey, I'm
(06:39):
a hoaxer. So what else are they gonna do? They
got it so many years, they got it. They got
to repeat something to remind the people that this guy
is not trustworthy. So in my theory, was there any
government behind any of it? And they got to remind
(07:00):
the public every so often that, hey, don't listen to
his story. He was a hoaxer. Remember he hoaxed here,
he hopes there, Yes, exactly, coaxed.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Here, hoaxed there, hoaxed everywhere. Well, you know, it's like
this is very interesting. I don't know what to make
of it, but we'll make something out of it. Now,
my partner in crime, John lem May, the author, and
I'm an author. We're working on a project and we
might do some investigation of this Rick Dyer thing. And
(07:35):
Matt delf would you help us a little bit on it?
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Absolutely?
Speaker 1 (07:40):
I mean, I don't know anyone else I'd rather have
help me, help me uncover the whatever, not the truth,
the falses, but the whatever whatever it is. Let's go
figure it out. So that's a great that's a really
interesting story of a bigfoot hoax. And uh uh, we
(08:00):
will see where this leads us.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Okay, sounds good.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
I mean that's that is pretty interesting. Now you have
got another story about the Navajo Rangers, and this is
this is interesting because it's a it's a bigfoot slash
dog man story, and it's got some interesting twists and turns,
doesn't it.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Uh so, would you please, without any further ado, tell
us the story about the Navajo Rangers.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Well, it first started out last year. Because everybody knows
I travel on boots on the ground. I'm always out
researching going different places. Well, I just crossed from New
Mexico into Arizona and there was a uh it's like
a little not antique but a souvenir shop, and it
(08:57):
was all Indian you know, artifacts things. They had Cauccini
dolls and.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
And I think you said it, it was a Novajo, yesop,
which is interesting. The Navajo are out there in southwest
Arizona and New Mexico. It's just they're very interesting people,
very wonderful people.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Yeah. I mean it's a large area too. It covers.
I'm pretty sure it goes at least four states right there,
maybe Colorado and uh Utah and New Mexico, Arizona, but
I just crossed over the Arizona line there and I
was in that shop and uh, these were you know,
the American natives they or Native Americans. They owned the
(09:44):
shop and they were authentic. They wouldn't wouldn't even let
tourist take pictures of them because it was against their beliefs.
And they started telling me stories. And the sun was
telling me about a canyon where had some paranormal activity
(10:04):
bigfoots transfer the transfer to these portals in that area.
And this woman was in there and she was working
in there, and she started telling me to that you know,
the history of the area and that it was uh
that was so bad there that they had to have
(10:29):
their own special forces pretty much to uh investigate this stuff.
And I was like, what are you talking about? And
she started to tell me the story of this area
that they had a big boot had stole this woman's hogs.
(10:49):
So this is on the reservation, and so she goes
to the local police and she wants to report it,
and they kind of blow her off, and so she
filed a complaint and there were more and more cases
of this bigfoot activity. So then all of a sudden,
(11:12):
the Navajo come up with like a special forces called
the Navajo Rangers, and a certain unit was only that
was basically set up just for any type of paranormal,
cryptid alien, any of your weird stuff that we investigate
(11:35):
John type activity. And that was their cases. They called
these people and after you know, they're sworn in, they
got us in their apple datas they're not allowed to
disclose whatever. But as time has gone on, they told
me a couple of gentlemen to look up was Lieutenant
John Dover and Sergeant Stan Milford. Now they have on
(12:00):
their time and time has passed that they are allowed.
Now they're no longer sworn to secrecy on some of
this stuff, and so I looked them up, and I
was listening to some of these stories, and they had
encounters with skin walkers, and Navajo won't even mention the
word skin walkers. They won't even say the name bigfoot activity.
(12:26):
I believe. John Dover said that he had seen two bigfoot.
One of them just disappeared in any thin air. Pretty much.
They followed tracks all the way up to the desert
and it just stops with nothing. They had a lot
of interesting stories, and I'm hoping to get a lot
(12:46):
more from them. They had, of course, a skin walker
story that I had listened to, which pretty interesting if
you're familiar with any stuff from skin walkers. That it
almost killed a man and one of their investigations they
were looking into, and it was kind of wild because
(13:09):
this man had seen this wolf like creature had come
on to his driveway and it said he looked sick,
and he wasn't scared of him. So he was scared
that it had ravees or something, you know, and he
felt threatened. So he grabbed a two by four that
he had layin around right there, and he hit the
dog and he beat it, and he thought he killed it.
(13:29):
He'd beat it so bad he thought he'd killed it. Well,
this dust had come up off this dog. Well, he
goes in, tells his wife what's going on, and they
go out there to He goes out to look and
it's gone nothing, there, no evidence of it even being there.
(13:51):
And he's like, this is impossible. I'd beat that thing
till it was dead. It was laying right here, but
it wasn't there. It was gone. Now apparently some of
the dust that he had hit he had hit and
held it. Later that night, he starts getting sick and
he goes to the local hospital and they can't figure
(14:12):
out what's wrong with him. He just continues to get worse.
He goes home because they don't have anything, you know,
that they could do.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Well.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
His son him. Somebody suggests that they go see the
on the reservation there's a shawman, and that they need
to go see this or witch doctor, whatever you want
to call them. Native Americans call them, I believe they
call him shamans or medicine man. And so they go
(14:44):
see him, and he proceeds to tell them that he said,
good thing he had brought him here. We need to
bring him in here. And they take him in in
their little living quarters and he starts performing he's rich
wolves and giving him different types of medicine and stuff.
And the young son would not go into whereas dad
(15:09):
was at because he said there was a shadow being
standing next to his father. The medicine man had told them,
he said, good thing he brought him here, that he
had been infected with what the skin walkers I guess
a curse or whatever they what it is is it's
(15:31):
act of a human corpse that they'll blow in your
face or whatever to basically kill you. It'll kill you.
And so after doing all that stuff, of course, the
man survived, but the medicine man said if he would
have been an hour later that the young boy's father
(15:51):
would not be allowed to say. That's just like one
of the cases. They've done this for many years. So
some of the stories are pretty interesting. I mean they
go all the way down to the paranormal. Like I
was telling you earlier. Rock in one woman's house and
get paranormal activity going on, and the actual butcher knife
(16:16):
out of their little knife blockcase come flying out across
the room and stuck in a is a tangerine or
an orange or something right next to them, or a grapefruit,
something like that, and the ranger just looked at her
and said, you know he of course he was terrified,
but he said, you know, well, we know one thing.
(16:38):
This thing can kill you if it wanted to, and
it hasn't killed you, so you should be safe and
just you know, that was his best answer at the time,
to let the woman know, to help her relax a
little bit. I guess right. That's just a couple of
stories though, of this whole unit that goes out investigates
(17:00):
all this stuff, which I thought was very interesting. I'm
wanting to learn so much more.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Well, Matt, maybe we can go out there and learn more,
and we can get John LeMay to come with us,
the great paranormal author. That'd be a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Absolutely definitely, we'll see.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
What we can do. Uh yeah, because I know that
you and I are have have a trip plan to
to uh New Orleans to go visit the vampires. Yes
there are some, you know. It was real funny. I
was at a Chamber of Commerce meeting after hours today.
The lady said, vampires. Do you believe in vampires? I said, absolutely,
I do. I know they're real. So I mean crazy things,
(17:46):
crazy paranormal things in this universe. And uh, I don't know.
People need to people need to wake up. There are
crazy things out there. Keep you Bibles with you, that's
what I do. Well, Matt, this has been a lot
of fun. I mean, these are great stories and we'll
be you and I will be talking more on this
(18:08):
subject this weekend at the Bigfoot Comic Con in Myrtle Beach.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Right, Yeah, speaking of vampires, I will bring a special
guest with me.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Oh yes, tell us about your special guest.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
I will be bringing Victor Lavoski, who is supposedly a vampire.
And so there was this professor. Everything that you see
in Hollywood about vampires and stuff like that, you know,
they hollywooded up, but they don't. They don't. They do
(18:46):
a lot of it to hide the fact that vampires
are real. From what I can understand for you, a
lot of it entertainment, but there's a lot of truth
behind a lot of it too. Have you ever heard
the story, you know, a vampire cannot enter your home
unless it's invited.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Yes, I have, and we can see that in The
Lost Boys. They that's part of.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
The plot exactly. Well, supposedly, this professor, this Victor Lavoski,
he was a it went to Alaska for the gold
rush and he encounters these vampiresses, these female vampires that
attack him and they change him into a vampire. Through
(19:29):
the years, he's tormenting people, you know, he's sucking blutter
or whatever. Well, this professor had developed the ideal that
or had found out that if you invite a vampire
in the they have to do it. They are obligated
to that wish, you know, you tell them hey RW.
(19:54):
So he has this ideal that he invites Victor into
this bottle and Victor is obligated to enter it, and
as soon as he enters it, they get bad rose
on it and he's stuck. So of course, you know,
(20:16):
I've got Victor Levosky in this bottle, and if you know,
whether there's a vampire in there or not, it's a
great conversation piece. Uh, it's got a nice little history
story with it.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Well, Matt, I'm gonna explain something to you. I'm not
gonna chance opening the bottle.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Are you No, I've not opened it and I probably
never will. But you know, you don't don't want to
tempt fate. And I mean, you think about it, if
you look back through history, you know all these stories
Genie in a bottle, Uh, it come from somewhere, you
got you know, these gens, these spirits, and if there's
(21:01):
a certain type of glass or something they can't pass
through and they become that, or they've become this gas
form and they're in it, maybe they can be trapped
in there. Maybe it is some trees behind this story.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Well, all I got to say is I'm not going
to help you open that bible. And we'll we'll see
it at the Bigfoot Comic Con this weekend Myrtle Beach,
South Carolina, May tenth, and it's going to be a
lot of fun. So look forward to having you there,
and we'll we'll figure out our next trip. We've got
to get to New Orleans to go find those vampires
(21:36):
because they are there, aren't they.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Yes, Yes, definitely there's Like I said, my last trip there,
going by the Urstline Convent, I've got pictures. The top
floor is screwed, the shutters are screwed, supposedly blessed silver
screws by the Pope. Locals won't go out in front
(22:00):
of that convent in between usually midnight six in the morning.
I've heard different stories of if the shutters are open,
the vampires are out, better go in, stay inside, all
kinds of great stories from ronn last visit to New Orleans.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Well, we will see what we see when we get
down there this summer. And Matt, I want to thank
you for coming on here because I know you're getting
ready to leave to come to Myrtle Beach for the
Bigfoot Comic Con and we're looking forward to having you.
You're going to be leading everything off at nine point
thirty am on Saturday morning. It's going to be a
lot of fun. And thanks for being with us. And
(22:45):
we will make some plans when you're here and maybe
get some other people involved. Does that sound good?
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Sounds excellent. Bars a loaded up ready for the trip,
so Victure's ready?
Speaker 1 (22:57):
All right? Well that's great. Well, look, thanks a lot.
I'll call I'll call around when I check with everyone
in the green room. And thanks a lot for being
here with us tonight on Scary Cast.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Have a good one, Thank you, good night.
Good evening in life from Myrtle Beach, South Carolina. This
is Doctor John Stamy and I want to welcome everyone too,
Scary Cast. We've got an incredible show. We've got incredible
shows all week on the eve of the Bigfoot Comic
Con here in Myrtle Beach. It's going to be a
blast this coming Saturday, May May tenth at the Sheraton
(00:25):
four Points. So come out and join us. Me, Marshall Biddle,
Banana Jack Murphy, We've got Matt Delf with us. We've
got Jessica Jones, We've got of Mike Famelot, David Pardue,
n C Investigates d NR Paranormal, and of course Doctor
(00:49):
John Stamy with a special guest. So it'll be a
lot of fun. Matt Delf, you're with us tonight. How
are you doing tonight, Buddy.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
I'm doing excellent. Looking forward to this weekend.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Well good, we're looking forward to having you here. I mean,
it's always good to see you. All right. You've got
a couple of stories that I find extremely extremely interesting.
In a week where we're discussing Bigfoot spouce and crazy
stories about Bigfoot that turn out not to be true.
We started talking about a gentleman named Rick Dyer today
(01:24):
on the phone, didn't.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
We Yes, yes, we did tell us the Rick Dyer story.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
You know it and very well, and I think it'll
be it'll be a lot of fun for people to hear.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Well. Rick Dyer, he's known in the Bigfoot community as
one of the most known hopes that's out there. He is.
Back in two thousand and eight, he had a him
and another gentleman I forget his name at the moment,
but they had claimed they had a bigfoot body. They
(02:00):
got it out of the North Georgia woods and they
was going to present it to the world, and they
had it in a freezer. There was a picture that
went online. It was all over the place. They was
going to do a press conference, it was all over
Fox News all these other news stations that covered it.
And then all of a sudden it came out as
(02:21):
a hoax, that they were just hoaxing. Uh. There was
a gentleman, Tom Bascardi, if people are familiar with him
in the big Buck community, he had purchased Uh. I
guess I don't know part of the body and the uh,
(02:43):
the actual body. They said that whenever they did testing
it was a costume and insides of apossum, and all
of a sudden, you know, he paid fifty thousand dollars.
Now they're saying as a hoax. That went publicly and
said it was a hoax. And but what's really really
(03:10):
out my eye about this whole thing. They keep okay,
and he keeps reminding the community he's a hoaxer. He
had went some few years ago. He had come around
saying he had a big foot body and he was
going touring around Texas with this bigfoot body, charging people
twenty bucks to check it out. And you could see
just by looking at the what he had showed a
(03:31):
picture of it was totally fake. But one thing that
stands out about this whole situation fifty thousand dollars Tom
scard he was out of fifty grand. That's that's fraud.
How many people do you know that do fifty thousand
(03:52):
dollars worth of fraud and don't get any type of
jail time or any sentence or any trouble for nobody.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
So something's up with Tom Bascarty.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Yeah, either he was in on it or as Rick
Dyer had claimed before, that the government had come in
told him, shut up, tell everybody it was a hoax,
and so on. And the picture that I see now
online that they're showing is it doesn't look it looks
(04:30):
totally fake. But the very first time that they had
shown the picture, it looked more real. I don't know
if it's just a mindset or if the picture has changed.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Well, okay, I've got a question for you. First of all,
what year did all this occur?
Speaker 2 (04:51):
I believe it's two thousand and eight, And you want
to hear something pretty wild. Twenty minutes twenty minutes from
where I live at Ewing, Virginia. You cross over twenty
minutes across the state line, go through the Cumberland Gap
Tunnel in the Middlesboro, Kentucky. You know what you will
find there at the UH the Historical Society. There who
(05:19):
you will find You will find that seven foot seven
costume that supposedly was the Rick Dyer hoax.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Now, how far away is that from where you live?
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Twenty minutes? Twenty minutes away, Matt, I'm going to.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Ask you a personal favor. Can you go there and
take me a picture and send it to me?
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Yes, of course, yep. I just got to figure out
the hours of it and go down there and check
it out. Kind of wild, you know that being that
close and the costume supposedly this costume was seven foots seven.
You know who makes seven foot seven costumes?
Speaker 1 (06:07):
I h I don't know who makes seven foot seven costumes.
But that's a big undertaking, no pun intended.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
And everybody keeps saying, oh, he's a hoaxer. He said
he was a hoaxer. He admitted it. But you're gonna
do what you're gonna do. When big brother steps in
and they said, oh he keeps hoaxing? Does it every
few years? Well you got to remind people, Hey, I'm
(06:39):
a hoaxer. So what else are they gonna do? They
got it so many years, they got it. They got
to repeat something to remind the people that this guy
is not trustworthy. So in my theory, was there any
government behind any of it? And they got to remind
(07:00):
the public every so often that, hey, don't listen to
his story. He was a hoaxer. Remember he hoaxed here,
he hopes there, Yes, exactly, coaxed.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Here, hoaxed there, hoaxed everywhere. Well, you know, it's like
this is very interesting. I don't know what to make
of it, but we'll make something out of it. Now,
my partner in crime, John lem May, the author, and
I'm an author. We're working on a project and we
might do some investigation of this Rick Dyer thing. And
(07:35):
Matt delf would you help us a little bit on it?
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Absolutely?
Speaker 1 (07:40):
I mean, I don't know anyone else I'd rather have
help me, help me uncover the whatever, not the truth,
the falses, but the whatever whatever it is. Let's go
figure it out. So that's a great that's a really
interesting story of a bigfoot hoax. And uh uh, we
(08:00):
will see where this leads us.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Okay, sounds good.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
I mean that's that is pretty interesting. Now you have
got another story about the Navajo Rangers, and this is
this is interesting because it's a it's a bigfoot slash
dog man story, and it's got some interesting twists and turns,
doesn't it.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Uh so, would you please, without any further ado, tell
us the story about the Navajo Rangers.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Well, it first started out last year. Because everybody knows
I travel on boots on the ground. I'm always out
researching going different places. Well, I just crossed from New
Mexico into Arizona and there was a uh it's like
a little not antique but a souvenir shop, and it
(08:57):
was all Indian you know, artifacts things. They had Cauccini
dolls and.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
And I think you said it, it was a Novajo, yesop,
which is interesting. The Navajo are out there in southwest
Arizona and New Mexico. It's just they're very interesting people,
very wonderful people.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Yeah. I mean it's a large area too. It covers.
I'm pretty sure it goes at least four states right there,
maybe Colorado and uh Utah and New Mexico, Arizona, but
I just crossed over the Arizona line there and I
was in that shop and uh, these were you know,
the American natives they or Native Americans. They owned the
(09:44):
shop and they were authentic. They wouldn't wouldn't even let
tourist take pictures of them because it was against their beliefs.
And they started telling me stories. And the sun was
telling me about a canyon where had some paranormal activity
(10:04):
bigfoots transfer the transfer to these portals in that area.
And this woman was in there and she was working
in there, and she started telling me to that you know,
the history of the area and that it was uh
that was so bad there that they had to have
(10:29):
their own special forces pretty much to uh investigate this stuff.
And I was like, what are you talking about? And
she started to tell me the story of this area
that they had a big boot had stole this woman's hogs.
(10:49):
So this is on the reservation, and so she goes
to the local police and she wants to report it,
and they kind of blow her off, and so she
filed a complaint and there were more and more cases
of this bigfoot activity. So then all of a sudden,
(11:12):
the Navajo come up with like a special forces called
the Navajo Rangers, and a certain unit was only that
was basically set up just for any type of paranormal,
cryptid alien, any of your weird stuff that we investigate
(11:35):
John type activity. And that was their cases. They called
these people and after you know, they're sworn in, they
got us in their apple datas they're not allowed to
disclose whatever. But as time has gone on, they told
me a couple of gentlemen to look up was Lieutenant
John Dover and Sergeant Stan Milford. Now they have on
(12:00):
their time and time has passed that they are allowed.
Now they're no longer sworn to secrecy on some of
this stuff, and so I looked them up, and I
was listening to some of these stories, and they had
encounters with skin walkers, and Navajo won't even mention the
word skin walkers. They won't even say the name bigfoot activity.
(12:26):
I believe. John Dover said that he had seen two bigfoot.
One of them just disappeared in any thin air. Pretty much.
They followed tracks all the way up to the desert
and it just stops with nothing. They had a lot
of interesting stories, and I'm hoping to get a lot
(12:46):
more from them. They had, of course, a skin walker
story that I had listened to, which pretty interesting if
you're familiar with any stuff from skin walkers. That it
almost killed a man and one of their investigations they
were looking into, and it was kind of wild because
(13:09):
this man had seen this wolf like creature had come
on to his driveway and it said he looked sick,
and he wasn't scared of him. So he was scared
that it had ravees or something, you know, and he
felt threatened. So he grabbed a two by four that
he had layin around right there, and he hit the
dog and he beat it, and he thought he killed it.
(13:29):
He'd beat it so bad he thought he'd killed it. Well,
this dust had come up off this dog. Well, he
goes in, tells his wife what's going on, and they
go out there to He goes out to look and
it's gone nothing, there, no evidence of it even being there.
(13:51):
And he's like, this is impossible. I'd beat that thing
till it was dead. It was laying right here, but
it wasn't there. It was gone. Now apparently some of
the dust that he had hit he had hit and
held it. Later that night, he starts getting sick and
he goes to the local hospital and they can't figure
(14:12):
out what's wrong with him. He just continues to get worse.
He goes home because they don't have anything, you know,
that they could do.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Well.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
His son him. Somebody suggests that they go see the
on the reservation there's a shawman, and that they need
to go see this or witch doctor, whatever you want
to call them. Native Americans call them, I believe they
call him shamans or medicine man. And so they go
(14:44):
see him, and he proceeds to tell them that he said,
good thing he had brought him here. We need to
bring him in here. And they take him in in
their little living quarters and he starts performing he's rich
wolves and giving him different types of medicine and stuff.
And the young son would not go into whereas dad
(15:09):
was at because he said there was a shadow being
standing next to his father. The medicine man had told them,
he said, good thing he brought him here, that he
had been infected with what the skin walkers I guess
a curse or whatever they what it is is it's
(15:31):
act of a human corpse that they'll blow in your
face or whatever to basically kill you. It'll kill you.
And so after doing all that stuff, of course, the
man survived, but the medicine man said if he would
have been an hour later that the young boy's father
(15:51):
would not be allowed to say. That's just like one
of the cases. They've done this for many years. So
some of the stories are pretty interesting. I mean they
go all the way down to the paranormal. Like I
was telling you earlier. Rock in one woman's house and
get paranormal activity going on, and the actual butcher knife
(16:16):
out of their little knife blockcase come flying out across
the room and stuck in a is a tangerine or
an orange or something right next to them, or a grapefruit,
something like that, and the ranger just looked at her
and said, you know he of course he was terrified,
but he said, you know, well, we know one thing.
(16:38):
This thing can kill you if it wanted to, and
it hasn't killed you, so you should be safe and
just you know, that was his best answer at the time,
to let the woman know, to help her relax a
little bit. I guess right. That's just a couple of
stories though, of this whole unit that goes out investigates
(17:00):
all this stuff, which I thought was very interesting. I'm
wanting to learn so much more.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Well, Matt, maybe we can go out there and learn more,
and we can get John LeMay to come with us,
the great paranormal author. That'd be a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Absolutely definitely, we'll see.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
What we can do. Uh yeah, because I know that
you and I are have have a trip plan to
to uh New Orleans to go visit the vampires. Yes
there are some, you know. It was real funny. I
was at a Chamber of Commerce meeting after hours today.
The lady said, vampires. Do you believe in vampires? I said, absolutely,
I do. I know they're real. So I mean crazy things,
(17:46):
crazy paranormal things in this universe. And uh, I don't know.
People need to people need to wake up. There are
crazy things out there. Keep you Bibles with you, that's
what I do. Well, Matt, this has been a lot
of fun. I mean, these are great stories and we'll
be you and I will be talking more on this
(18:08):
subject this weekend at the Bigfoot Comic Con in Myrtle Beach.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Right, Yeah, speaking of vampires, I will bring a special
guest with me.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Oh yes, tell us about your special guest.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
I will be bringing Victor Lavoski, who is supposedly a vampire.
And so there was this professor. Everything that you see
in Hollywood about vampires and stuff like that, you know,
they hollywooded up, but they don't. They don't. They do
(18:46):
a lot of it to hide the fact that vampires
are real. From what I can understand for you, a
lot of it entertainment, but there's a lot of truth
behind a lot of it too. Have you ever heard
the story, you know, a vampire cannot enter your home
unless it's invited.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Yes, I have, and we can see that in The
Lost Boys. They that's part of.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
The plot exactly. Well, supposedly, this professor, this Victor Lavoski,
he was a it went to Alaska for the gold
rush and he encounters these vampiresses, these female vampires that
attack him and they change him into a vampire. Through
(19:29):
the years, he's tormenting people, you know, he's sucking blutter
or whatever. Well, this professor had developed the ideal that
or had found out that if you invite a vampire
in the they have to do it. They are obligated
to that wish, you know, you tell them hey RW.
(19:54):
So he has this ideal that he invites Victor into
this bottle and Victor is obligated to enter it, and
as soon as he enters it, they get bad rose
on it and he's stuck. So of course, you know,
(20:16):
I've got Victor Levosky in this bottle, and if you know,
whether there's a vampire in there or not, it's a
great conversation piece. Uh, it's got a nice little history
story with it.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Well, Matt, I'm gonna explain something to you. I'm not
gonna chance opening the bottle.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Are you No, I've not opened it and I probably
never will. But you know, you don't don't want to
tempt fate. And I mean, you think about it, if
you look back through history, you know all these stories
Genie in a bottle, Uh, it come from somewhere, you
got you know, these gens, these spirits, and if there's
(21:01):
a certain type of glass or something they can't pass
through and they become that, or they've become this gas
form and they're in it, maybe they can be trapped
in there. Maybe it is some trees behind this story.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Well, all I got to say is I'm not going
to help you open that bible. And we'll we'll see
it at the Bigfoot Comic Con this weekend Myrtle Beach,
South Carolina, May tenth, and it's going to be a
lot of fun. So look forward to having you there,
and we'll we'll figure out our next trip. We've got
to get to New Orleans to go find those vampires
(21:36):
because they are there, aren't they.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Yes, Yes, definitely there's Like I said, my last trip there,
going by the Urstline Convent, I've got pictures. The top
floor is screwed, the shutters are screwed, supposedly blessed silver
screws by the Pope. Locals won't go out in front
(22:00):
of that convent in between usually midnight six in the morning.
I've heard different stories of if the shutters are open,
the vampires are out, better go in, stay inside, all
kinds of great stories from ronn last visit to New Orleans.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Well, we will see what we see when we get
down there this summer. And Matt, I want to thank
you for coming on here because I know you're getting
ready to leave to come to Myrtle Beach for the
Bigfoot Comic Con and we're looking forward to having you.
You're going to be leading everything off at nine point
thirty am on Saturday morning. It's going to be a
lot of fun. And thanks for being with us. And
(22:45):
we will make some plans when you're here and maybe
get some other people involved. Does that sound good?
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Sounds excellent. Bars a loaded up ready for the trip,
so Victure's ready?
Speaker 1 (22:57):
All right? Well that's great. Well, look, thanks a lot.
I'll call I'll call around when I check with everyone
in the green room. And thanks a lot for being
here with us tonight on Scary Cast.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Have a good one, Thank you, good night.
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