Partarian Empire and Mud Floods Part 1

Listen to the Midwest Nightwatchers and Dr. John Stamey as they discussthe Tartarian Empire and the Mud Floods - Part 1 of an ongoing series!

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:04):
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Speaker 2 (01:00):
Hi, everybody, welcome to Piercing the Veil.

Speaker 3 (01:27):
Hey, Happy Sunday, Welcome, Welcome back, and good to see
everybody in chat again.

Speaker 4 (01:33):
Yeah, we got a lot of people popping and it
looks like so that's great.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
Yeah, I see Jason, Derek, Gary, I saw Polly. Now
you guys are scrolling so fast. Where are we to?
Maria and Robin Brownswarf and Blazer, Heidi Pop Welcome in guys.

Speaker 4 (01:58):
Yeah. So tonight we're going to talk about Tartaria and
the mud flood and the theories behind that, and we're
going to show some pictures that may or may not
substantiate that. It's just it's just weird and things that
we think, Okay, look at this, why does this make
sense or doesn't make sense? And we got doctor John

(02:19):
Stamy on on board with us and we're gonna dive
into the subject. And you may have seen him on
Jessica the Cryptis Huntress and he's having a podcast, Scary
Cast on on your podcast platform, So check that out
on your audible wherever you like to get your podcasts

(02:41):
and we'll we'll let him tell more about what he's doing,
and because he goes a lot of conferences and does
a lot of research and investigations, and he covers a
lot of fields, so we'll just let him tell you
so we don't mess it up. But we're really looking
forward to this. This is a favorite rabbit hole or
object matter for us. For we like tartaria and giants

(03:04):
and mud floods and lost civilizations. So we really enjoyed
the subject and it's going to be fun tonight. So
do you have anything else you'd like to say, Jane.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
I just want to say I've studied Tartaria for quite
a few years and it just was fascinating and the
more you look into it, you scratch your head, like
that makes no sense. Why would they have this and
that and this back in the days that they had
covered wagons and horse and buggies and they're living out

(03:35):
in shacks out in the prairie. So that just doesn't
make sense to me. The beautiful cathedrals and beautiful buildings
and all the strangeness even having trains back in the day.
You know how fancy they were when we were told
they lived, you know, a rough life out in the prairie.

(03:56):
John will explain a little more of that also, But yeah,
this has been our old rabbit hole for me, and
I've I have believed it, and I still dig down
into old pictures and photos.

Speaker 4 (04:09):
All right, well, let's let's get into this and we'll
bring John up and get going.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
Well, John, Hello, Hello, how are you all doing? Really good?

Speaker 4 (04:21):
Thank you for joining us tonight.

Speaker 3 (04:23):
Yeah, welcome to our podcast.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
Well, thank you very much. I mean, I really appreciate
being on here. I'm normally the inquisitor. I'm normally the
guy that's asking the questions. But it's so nice to
finally for once be a guest. I love it.

Speaker 4 (04:40):
Well, we appreciate you coming, and we're glad to have you.
And I know this is a favorite subject of yours.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
Also, it is absolutely one of my very favorite subjects.
And now I'm going to turn the tables on you
for one minute. Oh may I do that?

Speaker 4 (04:58):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (04:59):
Okay, what year is it?

Speaker 3 (05:03):
We don't know?

Speaker 1 (05:05):
Well, you get the A plus for answering the question correctly,
you get I mean, and by the way, everybody, we
didn't discuss this. I liked. I like to ask questions
of people to just see who I'm dealing with. Boy,
I'm dealing with some smart people here. I'm gonna tell
you that the answer is we don't know. Can I

(05:28):
give you my rationale and then I'm gonna turn it.
I'm gonna turn over the TV set back to you.
But I just love doing this because this is a
tartarian question. Okay, okay, who was the pope in one thousand?

(05:48):
We don't know. But what they did was they hurried
up the years to let Sylvester the second be the
pope because they loved him and they wanted him to
be the pope in one thousand. So they apparently listen,
we're talking about Europe. We're talking about feudal Europe. We're

(06:09):
talking about a bunch of people that really don't know
a lot, and they're told all of a sudden, you know,
it was like nine to sixty there. Oh no, it's
one thousand now. And they got him, I'll say, in office,
they got him in his position to say that he
was there in the year one thousand. So we really

(06:32):
so much of that went on. We really don't know
what year it is now. I think with some of
the research that I've done, we're about in seventeen thirty. Now,
I've just done a little bit of approximating, but I
think we're in about seventeen thirty. And don't start asking

(06:56):
me those questions, because one day I went and I
and I did a bunch of calculations and I figured
about seventeen thirty. So we're not near anywhere near two
thousand and twenty four, going on twenty twenty five in
a couple of weeks. But who knows, you know, And
it's fun to speculate, don't you folks? Agree?

Speaker 4 (07:21):
Absolutely? I mean I've seen all that where I've read it,
you know, going down to rabbit holes where the same
exact scenario that you just said about the pope and stuff.
But we don't even know about if our history is
correct before that.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
Oh no, we don't. We absolutely don't. Again the right time,
I'm both right. This is great. I'm dealing with smart people.
Thank goodness, I'm on here with some smart hosts. Please continue.

Speaker 3 (07:50):
Look at all the calendars we have. Everyone's fighting over
the calendars, like, no, this is the right calendar, No,
this is the right calendar. We don't even know if
those calendars are correct.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
You're right again, you're right many many times over tonight.
So and I agree, we don't know. I guess we
go on what we are taught, what we were told,
and so we don't know what year it is. In fact,
I'm a coin collector. I am probably one of the

(08:21):
better coin collectors. I have a lot of things, and
I love coins. And there's something that I never did understand.
Why are there years that we did not have coins
minted with certain dates. Now, I don't prescribe for the

(08:41):
fact that, well, we had enough coins. I don't agree
with that we never had enough coins because we had
a growing country and so I just don't believe that.
What I believe is that we may have skipped a
few years because they whoever they are, wanted to skip

(09:02):
a few years. And I've got one other comment, and
then I am turning this over to you because you're
my hosts, and you're kind enough to let me talk
about all this. Okay, okay, what do we know about power?
About electric power? Not a lot. I mean, we think

(09:26):
we know a lot, but we really don't.

Speaker 3 (09:30):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
One of the first people that made an absolute fortune
on power is one of my heroes. It's JP Morgan.
Do we all know who JP Morgan is. Yes, yep,
I mean JP Morgan was a financier. He was a brilliant,
brilliant man. But it seems as though because of the

(09:55):
power issue and because of the control issue, are we
you know what many people are probably not aware of this,
but he was the original founder of Niagara Mohawk Power
that made power electrical power from everything cascading off the

(10:15):
uh All off the Niagara Falls. Yes, and I mean
it was up to him to make sure that he
made money. That was his job for his shareholders. And
there are a lot of things like that where people
in control changed dates on us, They changed what we

(10:38):
understand to be the truth, and they start saying it enough,
well you get to where you hear it enough, well
maybe you think it's true. So the people in power.
And again, he was a good man. He was a
smart man. He is one. I mean, I am all right,
I'm gonna say this. I've never said this, but I

(10:58):
have connected with him. You ever connected with spirits.

Speaker 4 (11:05):
Yes, we've we've we've felt spirits.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
Well. I was out jogging one night where I used
to live, and I looked up and his entire face
covered the sky. I didn't know what to say, but
I kept looking and all he said was, don't worry, John,
You're on the right path. And then he vanished. I

(11:34):
kind of got a what's the word? I got a
seal of approval from JP Morgan because he knows I'm
interested in the paranormal. He knows I'm interested in alternative histories.
And I know he was one of the most important
men that ever lived in this country. But it's just
amazing when you see the real thing in the sky,

(11:59):
covering the entire higher sky. And if any of your
fans have ever had that happen, but it happened to
me once, and it was with mister J. P. Morgan,
James Pierrepoint Morgan, and it was just I didn't know
what to say other than oh my god. And then
as soon as it was there, it vanished, and sky

(12:20):
was we were looking up at a sunset, and there
we were. I was. I finished my job, but I'll
never forget. And he really did look a lot like
mister money Bags from Monopoly, because mister money Bags was
actually patterned after JP Morgan. I don't know if a
lot of people know that. But he walks and I'm

(12:41):
done with my little with my little history lesson, and
I will turn all this back over to you, but
I just had some fun stuff I wanted to share
with everybody, because you know, history is really interesting, don't
you think?

Speaker 4 (12:55):
Right? Absolutely? I mean you can go all the way
from test let Edison, you know, and and the development
between uh, the power companies. Know how we got Westinghouse
and all that fight, and Edison actually electrocuted an elephant,
you know, to prove that his his theory was better

(13:17):
than than Tesla's or.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
I think I think I have that right, Yes you do.

Speaker 4 (13:23):
And then you can go all the way back to
the Egyptian culture, to the to the Pyramids where they
found encased in some of their clay pots and stuff
that they think was an actual working battery. So how
how far back did the electricity actually go? And was
that a part of Tartaria? And was that an ancient

(13:44):
civilization's uh technology? And we just stumbled upon it and
tried to figure it out and kept going with it.
Does that mean is that how Tesla got a hold
of all this free energy?

Speaker 1 (13:57):
I don't know. I think Tesla had a great mind
and he could just pretty much read the stars. So
to speak. And from what I understand, we're talking about
the sixth You know that battery comes from about the
sixth century BC, and that's that's a long durn time ago.

(14:17):
We're talking about thirty centuries. I mean, and your your
your fans and your listeners. Can you imagine what it
must have been like thirty centuries ago. You didn't have
a lot of the same communication that we have, but
you had a number of the same realities that we had,
And it's like, what what on earth it was? It

(14:39):
must have been frightening.

Speaker 4 (14:42):
Absolutely, I mean, you even have the hieroglyphs or the
picture the pictures on some of the tablets and some
of the temples that show what looks like a plasma
ball or some kind of thing that would require a
battery pack to run it.

Speaker 1 (15:01):
Well on top of some of those mysteriously beautiful edifices
that were built whenever sixteen hundred, seventeen hundred, eight eighteen hundreds,
we have this globe of mercury. And as we know,
and I was talking with mister Bill, who's my buddy

(15:21):
that does all the uh, he does all all the
all the gosh, what is it? He does all of
the uh I can't even think the uh so anyway, well, anyway,
he does all the all the power stuff, and he
said that those globes of mercury were around a long, long, long,

(15:43):
long time, and we need to be very mindful of
the fact that this technology that we're kind of discovering
now was around many hundreds, if not thousands of years ago,
because we really don't know what year it is today.
Maybe seventeen thirty, maybe seven, maybe it's nineteen seventy. We

(16:06):
don't know what day it is, right, we just know
that things have happened, and it's just amazing.

Speaker 4 (16:16):
Yeah, because I mean, even the Pyramids, there's two theories
speculating that they were power sources. That one could be
like nuclear and there's some involvement of mercury they thought
was in the bottom part of that chamber filled up.
And then there was another one where it's a water
or some kind of hydroplant to help produce electricity. Have

(16:40):
you heard those theories?

Speaker 1 (16:42):
Yes, I have, and I have seen artists' renditions of
the Pyramids that are all lit up, and I don't
think that they would have done this if they hadn't
had some type of indication that this might have been
the truth. We really don't know. We wish we did,
and I mean, you know, we're just now, like in

(17:03):
nineteen forty seven we discovered the Dead Sea Scrolls, which
had a lot of information for us, the Book of Giants,
another copy of the Book of Enoch, just all kinds
of stuff that was totally different than what we might
have imagined. But we've seen We've seen copies thousands of

(17:27):
years apart, and it's just wonderful that we have this
type of corroboration with what was going on. I mean,
you know, the scientists and the governments of the country
of the world do not really want to talk about this,
and they don't. I don't know why.

Speaker 4 (17:46):
It's like a big cover up, and I don't know
why it would be that way. It's like any mention
of a lost civilization. I mean, I call them lost
because they hied them on us, and then any technolog
it might have come from there. Instead of announcing it
to the world, they keep up to themselves and act
like they just developed it.

Speaker 1 (18:08):
That is true and of what we were taught in school, right,
which was by and large not correct. Right, But that's okay.
You know, those of us that are a little bit
more awakened. We understand this. We do research. I know
I do research. You folks do research, and we try

(18:28):
to figure out what is really the truth. And it's
amazing what's really out there. It is.

Speaker 3 (18:35):
Now, you can't have a closed mind. You have to
have an open mind and use your common sense. Like
that does not make sense of what we were taught
and just common sense.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
Right, it's like if you look, it's amazing to see
what is out in plain view. Yeah, that we don't
talk about. So I don't know.

Speaker 4 (18:59):
I have a map of Tartaria, or at least one
that I had found or one that I like. So
I'll bring it up and see if it's one that
you're familiar with, or maybe you can explain it a
little bit if you know anything about it.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
Okay, that that is the map. This shows Siberia and
part of the Middle East is part of the Great
Tartarian Empire. Now we don't really have a lot of
these well a lot of this information in anywhere where

(19:38):
we can read it, but it does show that Tartaria
was a huge part of the world. Now, what I
can say is that China, because China was not part
of Tartaria. And uh, it's just it's just a ma

(20:01):
the fact that Tartaria was so big and India was
not part of Tartaria. So and that picture that you've
got is from the Chicago World's Fair, I believe.

Speaker 4 (20:16):
Yes, I got. I got a lot of stuff from
the Chicago's World Fair. We're going to touch on that also,
about the architecture and the buildings, and.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
And and I will I will point out something about
these world fairs that is very curious to me. They
built these structures and then within six months of these
world fairs being over, they destroyed them. Why is that?
I got it fast? And I've got another question, And

(20:48):
I don't care who this makes mad? You know, General
William to come as Sherman, right, the man that burned
the South? Why did he burn all those buildings when
they had already won? Was who was trying to cover
all this Somebody was trying to cover something up when
all these buildings got burned down. I think now, I

(21:12):
hope I don't have any knocks on the door and
the men in black show up. But I mean, who
was trying to cover up all this great technology that
we had? I mean it seems pretty obvious to me.
They didn't need to burn all of Atlanta down right
because all they had to do, all they had to
do was rebuild it. Why not just keep it? I

(21:34):
don't know.

Speaker 4 (21:37):
So speaking of Chicago, yeah, I have quite a few
pictures from the World's Fair, and this is the centerpiece
of it, where you have the great pond or the
lake that goes through all these buildings. And if you
can look and see these buildings, they're just I mean

(22:00):
to believe that person. And some of these buildings are
paper mache and wood, not actually stone.

Speaker 3 (22:08):
They're stunning buildings.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
They really are. And I want to mention I've got
a very close friend up in Buffalo, New York. His
name is Josion, and he said that he is going
to go take me pictures from the Buffalo World's Fair.
Eight million people came to the World's Fair. I believe
it was. I believe it was nineteen oh one. Now

(22:33):
if someone looks it up and it's different, I'll probably
check this out here on my phone and just go
back at least on the date. But so many people
went and saw the Pan American Exposition, and some of
those buildings are still around. He is he and his father,
who's a professional photographer. They are going to take me

(22:54):
some pictures of these buildings. Now, let me ask you
something on one of your shows coming up. Would you
like for me to bring those pictures so that we
could take a look at the buildings that are still around. Absolutely, yes,
I'd love to, and I'll tell him and so yeah, okay,
I'll let you guys talk and let me just double check.

(23:16):
I think it was nineteen oh one or nineteen oh three,
the Pan American Exposition. It was basically Canada in the
United States, and it was just unbelievable the pictures that
he has.

Speaker 4 (23:28):
So these are these are This is a building that
still exists in Chicago from the World's Fair and it's
there today. I believe this one is the Science and
Industry Building.

Speaker 3 (23:42):
So they didn't claim that was paper mache. Huh.

Speaker 4 (23:45):
Well, they said that they built some of them out
of stone or ordering brick, or however you want to
describe them. And they got pressed for time, supposedly, so
then they started putting them together as fast as they could.
But if you look at all those pictures that we've
been sharing, so there's a national picture from the date

(24:07):
in eighteen what was it eighteen ninety three?

Speaker 3 (24:12):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (24:13):
Oh. And by the way, I will say that the
Buffalo World's Fair, as they call it, it was nineteen
oh one. I was correct on that year.

Speaker 3 (24:22):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (24:24):
Wow. That's amazing.

Speaker 3 (24:28):
That's what fascinates me is my grandmother was born I
think three nineteen oh three or nineteen oh four or
something like that, and she would tell us stories of
going to New Mexico in a covered wagon when she
was a little girl. But they had buildings like this
before she was even born. That's what amazes me. I mean,

(24:50):
the details of these buildings are just stunning.

Speaker 1 (24:54):
This is something that might have been built in the
fifties of this of the previous century, not in the
nineteen hundred.

Speaker 3 (25:04):
Come on eighteen hundreds.

Speaker 1 (25:05):
Yeah, yeah, wow.

Speaker 4 (25:09):
So this is another part of the Chicago's World Fair.
This came off of the Grand Pond as they called it,
and this heads to Woodland Island and this is the
gateway that would lead you there. And I mean, it's
just amazing that the architecture and how it survived all

(25:31):
these years. But yet they say everything was this made
spur of the moment. And there's a postcard from the
grand entrance of White City.

Speaker 3 (25:45):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
Amazing.

Speaker 3 (25:49):
Yeah, just the details.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
Wow, the artistry is unbelievable that they were able to
capture in these things, and I mean, we don't even
have that type of artistry today.

Speaker 4 (26:07):
And then the ferris wheel was introduced into Chicago World's
Fair and supposedly they had the ferris wheel, the zipper
was introduced. What else was there? Mm hm Anchemima Wrigley's
chewing gum cracker Jacks was first introduced to the world

(26:31):
at the Chicago Fair. But I mean that structure alone,
just the ferris wheel, How huge was that. That's like,
that's like train cars that are on top of in
this ferriss wheel that you can ride on.

Speaker 1 (26:46):
Look, is okay, we have the largest fair. The second
largest ferris wheel in the United States is in Myrtle
Beach where I live. And this is bigger than that.
Oh my lord. Wow. Yeah, it's in Pilor Park downtown

(27:07):
Myrtle Beach. It's called the sky Wheel. In fact, there
are two of them. There's one over in Burroughs and
Chapin Park, which is near five oh near seventeen North Bypass,
and then there's one in downtown. And this is far
bigger than those, and they were proud of those because
they thought they were big. So I want to talk

(27:28):
to my attorney because he is part of that family.
And I'm gonna say, Marshall, what do you think about this?
Don't you think this is bigger than the sky wheel?
It's going to be great to have him, and i'll
report if it's all right. I've got a couple of
things I need to report back to you on because
you know, I'm just lucky enough to know some people.

(27:48):
Is that okay?

Speaker 4 (27:49):
Yes? Absolutely? Now as your first world, does it have
big big trolley cars or the things that you sit
in right on like this?

Speaker 1 (28:01):
No, No, it's got like room for three people to sit.

Speaker 4 (28:06):
Now come almost like we in normal affairs, but just
on a huge scale.

Speaker 1 (28:11):
That's right, on a huge scale, and it's just unbelievable.
So yeah, I would have got a note. We'll we
will have a talk here in a couple of weeks. Also,
I talk to him about every day and I think
he'll enjoy it. The fact that we can't really compete

(28:31):
with things like this. I just think it's amazing.

Speaker 4 (28:35):
And then we were talking about electricity, and here is
the Chicago Fair building all led up, you know, because
Tesla came in and supposedly let all this up. But
I mean, this is this is eighteen ninety three and
he just he just started working with electricity. And yet

(29:00):
look how bright this is compared to not just putting
one bulb in somebody's house or a room. This is
a whole actual fare being lit up of gigantic buildings
and the insides are lit up.

Speaker 1 (29:15):
It's amazing.

Speaker 3 (29:16):
If you think they had trains way before that. Abraham
Lincoln had a train, so that's what middle of eighteen hundred,
seventeen hundreds, so they had trains, you know, at the
same time here.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
Right, let's see, Abraham Lincoln would have had those trains
probably in about eighteen sixty two, right after the beginning
of the Civil War, so he would have had those
that he was going around, so probably eighteen sixty one
eighteen sixty two.

Speaker 3 (29:47):
So that's him before the World Fair.

Speaker 1 (29:49):
Here.

Speaker 3 (29:49):
I just, oh, gosh, it amazing technology that they had
back down.

Speaker 4 (29:55):
I mean, I can't imagine being in horse and or
however your lifestyle was at a time for eighteen ninety
three and going to a place like this that looks
like Roman or Greek architecture. I mean, this just looks
like a palace. It looks phenomenal.

Speaker 1 (30:16):
I mean, right, and I think if I may talk
about something, Okay, I am very good friends with a
number of Mormons from Salt Lake City, and I have
met some of the parents of some of those wonderful missionaries,
and I've talked with them about the Mormon Tabernacle out there,

(30:40):
and they say, to this day, nobody really understands how
they were able to build a structure that tall and
that grand when they had horses and buggies. Right, they
don't understand that. But of course they don't really talk
about it because it's their faith and they're just glad
they have it. But I mean, what what an incredible thing.

(31:03):
I mean, those things were hundreds of feet high, and
I mean, I'm gonna be going out there hopefully this
coming summer and see this, and there's just these things
were built in like the late eighteen sixties just doesn't
make any sense.

Speaker 3 (31:21):
And claiming they build them within a few months, how
no way years a picture make these now it would
be years. And they claim that they build them within
a few months for the World Fair, That's impossible. It
is impossible, So why don't use your common sense?

Speaker 4 (31:41):
It's just mind boggling. Yeah, I mean every time I
look at these pictures, and I look at them all
the time, I try to find new ones from the
world's fairs. I mean, I just can't imagine something like
this existing at that time. I can't even imagine something
like this being built now.

Speaker 3 (31:56):
Right, And the buildings that Russia had that would have
been the Tartaria, I mean, those domes and everything, you
just you can't explain how they're made.

Speaker 1 (32:07):
No, well you can explain it, but it doesn't have
anything to do with the technology that they had back then.
We're just done, and I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna
give an open question to everyone listening. If you know
how they could have done this without amazing technology from

(32:30):
the year two thousand plus, please tell us, because the
three of us don't know, and the three of us
are pretty smart people. Yeah, we really know.

Speaker 3 (32:40):
Everyone's living in log cabins out in.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
The prairie something like that. It looked like a little
it looked like a little house on the prairie.

Speaker 3 (32:48):
Come home that the city has had buildings like this,
It just makes no sense.

Speaker 4 (32:54):
So we know that Tartaria had giants or speculated that
they were giants. And we've had reports of giants our
whole lives and history books and literature and and all
kinds of civilizations and stories. So we have architecture that

(33:15):
supports that, or at least that's what I think it supports.
But I mean I could be wrong, But I mean,
how do you explain stuff like this?

Speaker 3 (33:25):
Yeah, why did they're But you're not wrong, You're absolutely
not wrong.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
This defies it defies explanation.

Speaker 3 (33:34):
Yeah, a lot of those buildings had giant doors.

Speaker 4 (33:38):
And it's not like it's a one off or one
one building and they wanted to make a spectacular entry
way to it. It shows up over and over again,
and all these big cities and all these places. I mean,
everybody shows these doors or take pictures of them. And
a lot of times if you look where the handles

(33:58):
are right here, we can't reach those handles right So
if you go up to your normal door, that handle
is about your waist for you. So how big are
these people? If this is right there at their waist
or higher, it.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
Doesn't make any sense. Now, by the way, folks, I
have got a book on my couch. May I disappear
for thirty seconds and bring it back because this might
be a very interesting point that I would like to
bring up, is that. Okay, yes, absolutely, I'll give me
thirty seconds.

Speaker 4 (34:37):
All right, And there just look at these doors.

Speaker 3 (34:43):
Well, the details in these doors, you know, they're they're
made so perfectly, all the carvings and stuff, and there's
no mistakes in the carving.

Speaker 1 (34:58):
Right, no mistake that one.

Speaker 3 (35:03):
Ah.

Speaker 1 (35:07):
Would you like to have one of those at your house?
I know I would.

Speaker 3 (35:10):
That's stunning.

Speaker 4 (35:12):
I mean, it's amazing.

Speaker 1 (35:13):
Wow, they can't do that today?

Speaker 3 (35:16):
And why did they destroy all these buildings? That's so sad.

Speaker 1 (35:23):
The least we have picture of them. Oh my gosh,
that's that's wonderful. Well, I have got and you know,
all I got to say is whenever I do podcasts,
and I hope you're okay with it, we just kind
of have a free flow of ideas. And I've got
a book that I bought about two weeks ago that

(35:44):
really really it just opened my eyes.

Speaker 3 (35:49):
Matt.

Speaker 1 (35:50):
Can I have a minute to show this book and explain?

Speaker 4 (35:54):
Okay, you're ready, You're on the big screen. There you go.

Speaker 1 (35:58):
Okay, it's called There We Go, The Secret History of
Human Resets. This is by Donnie Davis. I don't know
who Donnie Davis is, have being able to find him.
I looked too much. And what it does. I mean,
it's a very well referenced book. Now, I don't know

(36:22):
if these pictures were created with Adobe Photoshop or what.
But he has pictures of a number of cities like Moscow, Madrid, Prague, Helsinki, Copenhagen, Malta, Italy, Dresden,

(36:44):
Rio de Janeiro, Turku, Finland, Toronto. It has pictures of
these cities with no people in them, and they're probably
about ten eleven, twelve o'clock. And I think it's very
interesting that he has pictures of these cities with no inhabitants,

(37:08):
because when they talk about the Great Resets, they say that,
you know, when they reset, people left the cities. Now,
I don't know. I've got a friend who is an
expert in forensics, and I'm going to have him look
at this book and tell me if these pictures were concocted,

(37:28):
were created, or if they were real. I mean, he's
he's pretty good at that, and I just think it's
amazing that there are pictures of these great cities with
no people in them.

Speaker 4 (37:41):
I mean, right like that.

Speaker 1 (37:47):
And I was I was talking to my best friend Mike,
who I visited him and his family this weekend, and
I said, he said, John, I mean, is this real?
I said, Mike, I don't know, but what I do know,
so I'm going to find out these pictures, all the
stuff that we look at the I mean this weekend

(38:11):
we were looking at the videos of the landings on Mars.
Are you aware of that?

Speaker 4 (38:21):
No? No, Like, are you talking about structures that have
been found or no?

Speaker 1 (38:27):
No, I'm talking about astronauts that we have sent to Mars. Okay,
And I mean as like, you know, I don't know
what all this is about. We've got some screen captures
and I'm going to try to figure out what my
friend thinks is real versus something that was created in photoshop.

(38:49):
But I mean, it's it's amazing the things that are
out there, and we need to investigate them, because you know,
I think I think good quality stories need investigation. Don't
you agree? I bet you agree with me, don't you you?

Speaker 4 (39:06):
I mean I've went down the rabbit hole and saw
the pictures comparing landscapes from Mars to the deserts in
Arizona and other places, and it looks like some of
it matches up. Now, I don't know if that's AI
or they photoshopped. I mean, I don't know. I wasn't
there when the pictures were taken or anything, So I

(39:26):
just go by what I visibly see, and it shows
it like it's identical. So I don't know.

Speaker 3 (39:33):
And if you look at my Secret Space program, they
say that we've been to Mars for quite a while,
right in this book, got bases underground there.

Speaker 1 (39:43):
This book that I just showed you is three hundred
and seventy six pages. Now you know, it is not
a big best seller, probably sells twenty or thirty copies
a year. So in my opinion, my humble opinion, there
is no reason to spend the money to do all
this photoshopping for a three hundred and seventy five page

(40:06):
book that is not going to sell. So there must
be there must be something too. I don't know what
there is, but there must be something to this. So
that's why I'm going to do some exploration. And if
all of a sudden, one week you don't hear from me,
you better start calling my attorney and say we have
heard from John. We don't. We don't know where he is,

(40:28):
wonder who knocked on his door.

Speaker 3 (40:30):
And they'll send out the crypto hunters to find you.

Speaker 1 (40:33):
Oh, Jessic'll find you. I'll tell you that.

Speaker 5 (40:35):
Yeah, thank thank you.

Speaker 1 (40:36):
But you know, and I think that's important that as
those of us that are exploring this and trying to
figure out if it's real, I think it's good that
we stay in touch with each other in case, all
of a sudden somebody falls off the face of the earth,
and you know, at least we know that and we're

(40:58):
aware of it, and maybe we try to find I
don't know.

Speaker 3 (41:01):
Well, I have a question on that book. How many
resets does that book say we had. There's like five
or six resets that we've had.

Speaker 1 (41:11):
It talks about three or four. It talks about eighteen
fifty six, which, now, there was a gigantic depression in
eighteen fifty six. I'm a coin collector, and there are
a lot of weird, weird, weird things about the coins
from eighteen fifty six. I'm trying to buy some right now.

(41:32):
I mean, you know, as a coin collector, I enjoyed this.
There's a seventeen twenty seven reset. And if you count
the fact that they compressed the years in like nine
sixty and got us up to one thousand, that's another reset.
I mean, I don't know. Jessica and I are going

(41:52):
to go through a lot of our information and we're
going to try to come up with a list of
the resets. Do you want us to talk about it
on your show? Sure?

Speaker 4 (42:01):
I mean we've speculated from what we've seen that we've
had at least five resets, and we've got another one
coming soon.

Speaker 3 (42:11):
And Noah's flood was not the only reset.

Speaker 1 (42:15):
Now that I wouldn't call that a reset. I would
call that a global catastrophe. I don't think that was
a reset. I think that was I mean, the real
thing is that is that? Is it okay to describe
it like that?

Speaker 3 (42:28):
Yeah? Yeah, that makes sense?

Speaker 1 (42:31):
Okay? And what are your what are some of the
people that are listening to your podcast here it's saying
or or do they get to comment? What do they
think about all this stuff? I'm just curious.

Speaker 4 (42:46):
Yeah, they've they've so far, they've been on on board
with stuff that we're talking about. They're they're really getting
into it, and uh, they haven't quite commented on the
reset part yet, but they've been they've been commenting on
some of the stuff we've been talking about it. And
usually our listeners are pretty much on board with the
subjects that we follow, just like in Jessica's crowd and

(43:10):
other people show as crowds, you know, you have the
ones that usually follow and hang in there with you.

Speaker 1 (43:16):
Well, that's good. And one thing, you know, since I
brought this up on your show, I mean, I would
like to come back and report, you know, on what
I found out because I think it would be interesting
because your audience deserves to know.

Speaker 3 (43:33):
Yeah, we all need to know the truth, you know,
just like this picture when they start digging underneath buildings
and you find old buildings underneath these buildings that you
had no idea was there. I mean, why can't they
tell us the truth? We built on top of buildings.

Speaker 4 (43:48):
So that's my question. If this is is that level
of what we see in a dug around it? And
I'm assuming they're digging this building out for some reason.
For why are these windows and doorways below the grade
of the soil.

Speaker 3 (44:08):
And there's tons of pictures like this.

Speaker 1 (44:11):
That is a great question. We don't have the answer
right yet. Right, that's you get an A plus on
that question.

Speaker 4 (44:20):
Okay, I mean we have and you've probably done the
same thing. We've seen photos and photos of these like
arches that would be for windows or doors that are
part way above ground and part way below ground. I mean,
it's just over and over in these cities.

Speaker 3 (44:42):
That one fascinates me.

Speaker 4 (44:45):
I mean we can see where they're digging out below
even the structure that they revealed above the current where
people are living in. So, I mean, what in the
I don't understand these columns and they bricked them in
so they were like doorways or places to go, and

(45:06):
it looks like there might be statues in there, So
why would that be covered up below ground.

Speaker 1 (45:14):
Until we determine Your guest is as good as mine,
it's as good as anybody's guests. And I agree with you,
what the heck is going on?

Speaker 3 (45:24):
Yeah, Like Brown Dwarf said, the more you dig, the
more you find.

Speaker 1 (45:28):
May I ask where is this picture located? Do we know?

Speaker 4 (45:34):
Yes? I haven't written down, but my photos before I
lowered them up, I had them all organized and had
the cities and everything listed, but when it went to
the when I sent them to the show, they got
mixed up. So I don't know exactly right off hand.
But this picture is all over the internet and you
can do Google eyes and find it easily and it

(45:55):
tells the city.

Speaker 1 (45:57):
Okay, well great, because I'm I'm taking notes now. I'm
big about taking notes. So I've got four questions that
we need to answer, and I think, you know, and
we'll talk about these and is it okay if we
work together to get these answers? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (46:12):
Really, Yeah, I've been in these pictures for years.

Speaker 1 (46:18):
You see that one right there, you know, it's just
so weird that that that sidewalk is supported by by beams.
That's so weird. I mean, what is going on anyway?
I don't know, but we'll figure it out. Maybe we

(46:38):
can get a structural engineer to tell us why would
someone build something like that, you know, because it's sometimes
you have to get an engineer to tell you what
was the reason that that was done? And that that
can tell us a lot of answers. So we'll I'll
put I'll put that on my list.

Speaker 3 (46:57):
And these buildings are just.

Speaker 4 (47:01):
They're almost like so, I mean this is this is
the world worldwide. All these buildings that are that are
have been built with architecture that we don't experience now
or have. I mean, you're everywhere.

Speaker 1 (47:19):
I mean, you know, what I can tell you is
one of the tallest buildings in the world other than
the Empire State building was the De Triumph in Paris. Now,
why did they build a building that was so damn big?
It didn't make any sense, right, right, but it's there.

Speaker 3 (47:41):
And conspiracy has it that when they came over here
to kind of find these buildings, they took over all
the you know, and turn them into churches. All these
buildings they turned them into cathedrals and churches, and all
the capitol buildings they let's took them all over.

Speaker 4 (48:02):
And this is the White House when they were digging
in doing restorations and stuff. So once again it looks
like and I know, the White House has basements and
deeper floors inside the main building. In the main building
of it, I mean, it goes down for many floors.

(48:23):
But why out front is there cavities and different layers.

Speaker 1 (48:33):
Right, And I'm going to make a note, and I'm
going to tell you something. Let me make a note.
I was in Virginia Beach. I went to celebrate the
fact that I had completed my doctoral examination at North
Carolina State, and I took a friend of mine who

(48:53):
was the head of Spade, that is, the paranormal research
group in Kentucky, and I was asking somebody when we
were eating dinner, I said, are there any interesting things downstairs?
They said, yes, there's like a whole basement full of
shops and everything that nobody ever goes to. So we,

(49:15):
of course, as soon as we finished our dinner, we
found out how to get down there. And there was
one boy that was down there, and it was like
two floors subterranean below the main floor, and we talked
with him. And I can't find his business card. I'll
find it one day. But I said, well, why are

(49:37):
you down here? He said, well, some people come down
here and we have very interesting conversations. I said, well,
how long has this thing been vacant other than you?
He said years. And it was just amazing. What was
below the Cavalier Hotel, which was truly the grandest hotel

(49:58):
of all in Virginia, each which was a really it
was a big deal. And I didn't know what I mean,
this was like, I hate to tell everybody, this was
in twenty ten when I finished my doctoral degree and
I didn't know anything about the resets and all this.
I wish I had. I could have asked some really
good questions. But I mean, there are buildings, and I've

(50:22):
got a note on this about on my sheet about
the Cavalier Hotel. I got my little notes, and I'm
going to be answering these questions. If you'll have me
on again here in a couple in a couple of
weeks or months or whatever, I'd like to answer these
questions for everybody and see if we can figure out
what is going on. I think it takes good inquiry

(50:44):
to figure out what's going on, don't you agree?

Speaker 4 (50:47):
Absolutely?

Speaker 1 (50:50):
And I mean I love people. I mean I love
people like you that are really interested in the topic
that we're talking about, because I can tell you are
you researched this for years. It's like, what the heck
is going on? So I think it's up to us.
If we found some things, we better try to figure
out what they are. Do you agree?

Speaker 4 (51:12):
I agree absolutely? And of cathedrals, we have a bunch
of pictures of cathedrals that I was going to bring
up tonight speaking of.

Speaker 1 (51:24):
Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (51:26):
And they were built just absolutely perfectly for frequency, vibration
and going down the rabbit holes. These were healing places.

Speaker 1 (51:38):
That's no trouble.

Speaker 4 (51:40):
Right, absolutely say that this one I know for sure
where it came from.

Speaker 1 (51:44):
That's got the greatest organ in the world. Because I'm
a musician, and I mean it was incredible. It's still incredible.

Speaker 3 (51:57):
Yeah, there was a mystery.

Speaker 4 (52:01):
So the other the other theory or stuff that we
like to look at is why were these cathedrals built
so big? Why is there stained glass in every single one?
Why are these huge pipe organs inside everyone?

Speaker 1 (52:23):
Right? And now what I can tell you is when
I was in I've only been to been to England twice.

Speaker 3 (52:30):
Look at those pipes.

Speaker 1 (52:31):
And my and my host took us to Salisbury Cathedral.
Salisbury Cathedral is so tall there are occasionally clouds on
the top inside and there were that day. It's unbelievable
how tall they are. And it's like, how could they

(52:54):
have built something that tall? We can't build anything that's
all today.

Speaker 3 (52:58):
And they really didn't understand pipe organs. There's only a
few that really could play them and fix them and
understand them, there's this beautiful back.

Speaker 4 (53:10):
So, doctor John, the interesting thing that we like to
talk about all the time is the music that they
played in these cathedrals were four thirty two, and that's
supposedly a healing frequency. So not only are you going
to church or a cathedral to to u heal your

(53:31):
body or your your your soul, but you're also there
to heal your body. And if you look at if
you look at the reflection from the stained glass windows,
it's also hitting the instrument that is making the sound.
And so then it goes into the blue light theory
that there's certain light frequencies that goes along with music

(53:53):
frequencies that can be generated in these cathedrals to heal
your body. Also, have you ever heard that, No.

Speaker 1 (54:01):
I haven't, but I've got I've got question mark for
thirty two church Organs. I'll find out about that.

Speaker 3 (54:08):
They moved the music to four forty because they know
it wasn't as healing. So our rock music hymnals is
now at four forty herts, but it used to be
four thirty two, which was more of a healing hurtz.
That's why a lot of tuning forks they recommend the
four thirty two.

Speaker 1 (54:26):
Right, I'm familiar with that.

Speaker 3 (54:28):
And these cathedrals were perfect with the ceilings and everything
to resonate and bounce off all these frequencies. Oh, beautiful buildings.

Speaker 4 (54:39):
Oh and this is the one that they just restored
after the fire that they had. But I mean, wow,
these fires. I mean, you tell me if that was

(54:59):
there to general rate electricity or to get energy out
of the ether and bring it into the church for
healing or for whatever reason. I don't know, but I mean,
that's that's another speculation that we hear all the time.

Speaker 3 (55:16):
That's what they say, as all those are for the
free energy, but.

Speaker 4 (55:21):
Also it also could bring in frequencies that are just
traveling through the air. There's purposes, and.

Speaker 3 (55:31):
I don't know, there's no way we could build anything
even close to that these days.

Speaker 1 (55:36):
Well, I've got this is one of my questions now,
and I'm going to go through and try to answer
these and if you let me come back, well we'll
see if we can at least talk about potential answers
for the These are good questions.

Speaker 3 (55:51):
That's massive.

Speaker 4 (55:53):
I mean, we're definitely going to have you back, and
we can even make a little mini series or you
can come back as many times as you want, and
we can just keep going right down this, uh, this
trailer of what we're finding.

Speaker 1 (56:05):
Yeah, and don't call it a rabbit hole. This is
not a rabbit hole. This is a trail of advancement
as we try to figure out what's going on. You know,
I think of a rabbit hole as kind of a paranormal,
weird kind of thing. That this is not weird. These
are legitimate, good questions and I think that we need

(56:26):
to try to answer them. You okay with that? Absolutely,
and I'm call it you bet. You better be careful.
I got your phone number, all right, let's phone number,
and we'll we'll have some talks and we'll see what
we can do to answer these. And by the way,
everybody listening, I hope you'll come back and listen to
our answers because I think I think they're going to

(56:48):
be wonderful. I mean, I know that this is and
this is kind of how I do VI vaper. Okay,
this is how I do scary cast. We talk about
topics and we bring them back and we bring the
people back because questions are important. Yes, or I'm.

Speaker 4 (57:06):
Sorry, I don't interrupt you. But I think people are
probably wondering why am I showing vic raper vapor rub
And I remember this as a kid, you know, being
in the glass bottles. And look what color the bottle is,
just like our stained glass we were talking about healing properties.

(57:27):
It's a blue bottle. Hmm, Phillips magnnesium blue bottle. Now
this one's green. This is this is castor oil. But
why are they picking these colors for all these old bottles?
And you can't get colored bottles now everything's clear glass
or plastic.

Speaker 1 (57:48):
Or it's all plastic, but not for Phillips and not
and yeah, so.

Speaker 4 (57:55):
If you go along with what I was saying or not,
you go along, But if you follow what I'm saying
that we're talking about in their cathedrals, the stained glass
windows were there for the frequencies and the light to
heal your body with the light frequencies of the colors.
The blue, the greens, the oranges, they all have frequencies
that work on your body. And then I came across

(58:19):
thinking about the old medicine that we used to have
that came into certain colored glasses. Right, So other than that,
I probably wouldn't have ever brought these pictures up talking
about Tartari and technology, but it just kind of fit
right in with the cathedrals to me anyway.

Speaker 1 (58:42):
Well, I mean I agree with you one hundred percent.
I mean, it's like, what is going on because we
need to try to explore this and try to get answers.
Maybe some of them it doesn't matter, but there are
some of them. Out of this list of nine questions,
I guarantee you there are a couple of these that
really matter.

Speaker 4 (59:03):
So here's our visible charter of our light spectrum and
all these all these colors have a waveleak, a frequency,
and energy assigned to it for what fields they reach.
So I'm this speculating, and I've seen this other places
before where they talk about each color. I mean that's

(59:25):
why they say when you go out in the sunlight,
you absorb vitamin D and and you know you get
that that natural healing. And it's also the same thing
I'm assuming for our medicine bottles and for the cathedrals
that would have the light shine through and hit just
like I showed the picture of the organ.

Speaker 3 (59:43):
Just like what Rama said, old Mason bottles are blue.

Speaker 1 (59:48):
Oh wow, I didn't know that.

Speaker 3 (59:53):
Yeah, because I got some old blue ones upstairs. Yeah,
all the old mason dars were blue.

Speaker 4 (01:00:00):
If you go back to the original bottles, they were blue,
and sometimes you could find them in a kind of
a greenish light green color.

Speaker 1 (01:00:12):
Writing that down that that's a that's a great thing
to contemplate. So that's on my list of questions. I'll
get these to you and we'll try to figure some
of these answers out.

Speaker 4 (01:00:26):
Yeah, I don't know. I'm just some of these thoughts
has come to me and not you know, sometimes I
see them in other places and then I expound on
them and I find new information, and it's like, I
haven't ever seen anybody put the medicine bottles in the
stained glass together before. That's just something that I thought
of when we started looking at these cathedrals, that the
stained glass is there to heal you. So then I

(01:00:49):
figured out that the medicine bottles were the coming in
in the same colors with the same kind of glass.

Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
Hm hmm.

Speaker 4 (01:01:02):
Then, but the cathedrals and the music, we also have
the big giant bells that hangs in every and every
schools or courthouses, cathedrals, churches all had these.

Speaker 3 (01:01:22):
Bells and they're slowly disappearing.

Speaker 1 (01:01:28):
Right now.

Speaker 4 (01:01:30):
Supposedly, the bells are also certain frequencies that promote healing
and other properties, and that's why they had them hanging in. Supposedly,
that's the reason why during the Civil War and other
reasons that they destroyed these bells or got rid of
them was because they didn't no longer want to work

(01:01:50):
the way they were designed to work in these cathedrals.

Speaker 3 (01:01:55):
I just can't believe they destroyed so much of this.

Speaker 1 (01:02:03):
I'll not say what I think. That would be very
politically unpopular, but I agree, I don't understand why they
did it. That's we'll just we'll just leave it at that,
and your your listeners can use their own judgment to
guess what I'm thinking.

Speaker 3 (01:02:21):
So everyone's got to do their own research.

Speaker 4 (01:02:24):
Later on our podcast that we put it out over
audible for the m P three's and stuff for them
to listen to. So you'll have to come to Midwest
Night Watchers to our YouTube channel or Rumble or Spotify
will also have the video up so you can see
these pictures for yourself that we're talking about it and
use as a reference. Otherwise, if you're hearing just the

(01:02:47):
audio of our show. You you know, you kind of
lose a little bit of the show by not seeing
the pictures that we're showing.

Speaker 1 (01:02:55):
Well, if you want to get me some of these pictures,
I can put them up on scary cab. I mean,
you know, I'd be glad to do that. I mean,
you may have a way to do it, but I'm
always glad. I'm always glad to help people that are
interested in research because that's why I got a doctorate.
That's why I love research, and I'm always glad to
help people. So just know that that that that offer

(01:03:19):
is open.

Speaker 4 (01:03:19):
Fair enough, Yeah enough, Absolutely, I will get these pictures
to you. Any of them that we've shown a night
or any in the future that I find, I can
also share with you if you'd like.

Speaker 1 (01:03:30):
Yes, I would love it because I can. What I
will do is I will put them up on scarycast
dot com and I will make a note on scary
cast on Facebook to just go to scarycast dot com
for pictures basically from tonight's episode. Okay, and oh, my goodness,

(01:03:50):
tell us about this picture. My goodness.

Speaker 4 (01:03:57):
So these are books that they've been finding in basements
and old courthouses and old government buildings and that supposedly,
and even churches. Some of them are even religious books,
So why would they be this big. I'm assuming this
picture is original, that it's not AI, because I've seen

(01:04:18):
it everywhere, and I've seen.

Speaker 3 (01:04:22):
There's a lot of pictures of large books out there,
and I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:04:26):
I've actually seen this picture way before we even started
doing our shows, when we were just me and Jane
would just talk about these subjects and find stuff like this.
So I think this picture, even when I found it,
predated everybody doing AI and stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:04:45):
Amazing.

Speaker 3 (01:04:47):
There's no reason why they would have to have books
that big back then in the seventeen eighteen hundreds, if
there was no giants. Yeah, I've seen that one.

Speaker 1 (01:05:00):
Oh, I've seen that one too for years now.

Speaker 4 (01:05:05):
I'm not I'm not saying any of these. I mean
this looks like if you look at the side where
it has the the writing and the notations on the side,
that that looks like what people would do to film
or negatives. I mean, somebody, somebody could have possibly done
this picture, but I don't think so, because I've I've

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actually seen a giant book in my life. That's I mean,
if you go to the county courthouses. Now they have
big plat books that they write they write in not.

Speaker 1 (01:05:37):
Sure sure they do. I mean I'm from Winston Salem originally,
and when I was in real estate development, I remember
these gigantic books that they would have like this. I mean,
you're you're telling the absolute truth.

Speaker 4 (01:05:54):
And and the weird thing is this is not just ledgers. Yeah,
they're They're actually book books that have pictures and writing,
and some of them are actually literature. Even I can't
really see what that says. But I mean, I just

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I just think that's just amazing. And it all leads
back to whether you believe Tartari and giants. And we've
had giants listed in literature and history books. You know, forever.

Speaker 3 (01:06:33):
They return, there's proof of giants. They just disappears. Why
don't they want us to know that giants were real?
I don't understand that either. Just tell us, yes, we
had giants back in the day. They were in buildings.

Speaker 1 (01:06:49):
Right, I'm going to go get another book that I
just got. I'll be back in twenty seconds.

Speaker 3 (01:06:54):
Okay, absolutely, someone a chat. We'll start counting.

Speaker 4 (01:07:05):
So let's see what everybody in chat saying. Sorry, everybody
that I haven't been bringing up all your comments. I
was just getting so I have to run the pictures
and talk at the same time, and sometimes I lose
track of what you all are saying in chat. So
thank you very much for your patients tonight. So where
you got John?

Speaker 1 (01:07:25):
Okay, Now I'm going to completely change the topic, but
I think it's important and you'll see exactly how it
fits in. Is anyone familiar with with Alec Newall's book
Co Evolution?

Speaker 4 (01:07:40):
No, I am not.

Speaker 1 (01:07:41):
I have not seen that. This is probably the best
description of an abduction. This man is from New Zealand.
He left a town in New Zealand and he was
supposed to be at the next town in about three hours.

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He got back in ten days.

Speaker 4 (01:08:05):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:08:06):
Wow, it was incredible. And he talks about all the
things that he saw and they're just amazing descriptions. I mean,
I just got this book. I mean, I don't know
who all has ordered it, but it's amazing because if
you go back in history, because this is this a

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fairly new book. This is let me get the copyright.
I think this book's about in nineteen ninety seven, and
I think if you go back in history to the
books that we have and look at them. You'll be

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amazed at what we are told. I mean, this book,
I've read it. I think it's the best story and
the best account of a of a capture of an
earthling and what he went through of an alien abduction.

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And there are there are books out there like the
one that I showed a little bit earlier, this one
here right. There are lots of books out there, and
there are many of them are self published, like both
of these. But you know, people don't try to write

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a three hundred and fifty page book or in or
in this one co evolution. They don't write a three
hundred and twenty five page book to just do it
for fun. There's good information, and you I think, you
know you have to. I think it's important that you
get good references from people like me. I mean, I

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read a lot, and you know, I'm glad to let
people know the books that I think are pretty good.
And I don't don't mind having discussions about what's good
about him and what's bad about him. But you know,
there are lots of books that we need to look at. Now,
one other book that I don't have with me is

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the book Penetration by Ingo Swan, the greatest psychic of
the last century. And I don't know if y' all
know about Ingo Swan. The government used him Ingosan.

Speaker 4 (01:10:24):
I've heard some of the stories, but I haven't read
a book or anything.

Speaker 1 (01:10:28):
He is the greatest psychic of the last century, remote
viewer and everything, and you better read and take what
he says for the truth. I believe what he says.
And I, by the way, when I was getting my
doctorate at North Carolina State, I was a research associated
at the Rhyinan Institute of Parapsychology, and I met Joe mcmonagall,

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had breakfast with him, and I asked him about Ingo Swan.
He said, Ingo was the best thing. He was the
best remote viewer I have ever seen seen. What he
said was the truth. And Ingo Swan has a lot
of good stories that people need to read and understand,
because there are a lot of good stories about remote

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viewing and psychics and what they've seen, and that kind
of helps. It kind of helps frame what we've got,
and we've got to get more information and good solid
information like Ingo Swan, Joe mcmonagall, his books, and all
those guys they know what they're doing, and at least

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I think they do, and I believe in what they say.
So you know, if I get a knock on the
door while we're running this show and I disappear, you'll
know the men in black came to get me. But
I hope they won't, you know, I mean, because there's
so much out there, we may as well. You know,
there's not a lot they can do to silence people anymore.

(01:11:55):
So anyway, I think the more read. I will do
my first sign off on and we got plenty of
talking left to do. But my first thing that I
will say to all of your listeners is please do research.
If you like these topics, contact me, contact you, contact
your hosts about some books that are that we believe

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are very important, and learn from them. That's what you've
got to do. That's that's how I started when I
was getting my doctorate, and now it's just going crazy.
You have a podcast, I've written six books, I run conferences,
and I just think it's it's wonderful to learn because
as we learn, we begin to understand what's real and

(01:12:40):
what's not. Do my hosts agree with.

Speaker 4 (01:12:43):
Me absolutely, And you already have a book suggestion and
chat a little twisted, said doctor John. I recommend the
reading The Discovery of Nothing. The book is no longer available,
but you can find it free in pdf form online
Discovery of Nothing.

Speaker 3 (01:13:02):
The Discovery of Nothing.

Speaker 4 (01:13:04):
And I have not heard of that book that's about either,
so that might be something good to look at.

Speaker 1 (01:13:11):
No, No, I'm gonna go get it at right after
this show. I've got it. Write here on my list
of things to do. That's how I find out good things.
I was. I spent all weekend with my buddy Mike
telling him what he needed to go read. He he
loves it, and so do his parents. You know, his
mom was a senior vice president of IBM. His dad
was a city administrator for one of the Burlington Vermont

(01:13:34):
I mean, they love doing research about this stuff because
they know that there is more than just what we're
fed by the press man. They know it, and I'm
just so glad they're my friends.

Speaker 4 (01:13:48):
Now. Gene Hudson has an interesting question that we talked
about resets. She goes, so, what is the purpose of
resetting history and why change it?

Speaker 1 (01:13:59):
I have no idea, but it's a lot in a
lot of instances it's a way to cover up what
has happened. I guess, now, what do you say, my hosts,
what do you think? Do you kind of agree with
me on that one?

Speaker 4 (01:14:14):
Absolutely? We all know that, uh, civilizations that conquer other
civilizations destroy their history and insert their own like they
were there from the very beginning.

Speaker 1 (01:14:27):
In space, history is written by the winners.

Speaker 3 (01:14:31):
Really, and if we're getting too awake and using technology,
they don't want that though, so they wipe everyone out
and dumb everybody down and start all over again. And
then you're supposed to believe what they say is history,
and we're supposed to believe everything we're taught.

Speaker 4 (01:14:53):
I mean we've went through that just a little while
ago with them taking down all the historical statues and
the US to cover up that history and get rid
of that information.

Speaker 1 (01:15:04):
Well, now they've just done that, right. I mean, whether
you like the fact that we had a lot now
I don't want anyone to get mad at me, but
we had a lot of Confederate General statues that were
taken down. Whether you like them or not, that was history, right,
And I.

Speaker 5 (01:15:24):
Mean we've had a lot of this for Columbus Pardon
and Christopher Columbus statues also, I mean, they didn't know
when to stop.

Speaker 4 (01:15:34):
They just started going after and they went after Civil
War generals and president statues. They had to take them
down or they were getting ripped down.

Speaker 3 (01:15:45):
And if anyone is interested in doing your own research,
like we're saying, look up orphan trains. That's another question
of mine is all the adults have disappeared, but there's
tons of children all over again, Orphan trains, Cabbage Patch

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kids that there is some interesting searching that you know
that the children were free set everything over again.

Speaker 4 (01:16:17):
I have a theory on the orphan trains that I'm
not saying that I'm right. I don't know if there's
any truth to it or not. But about that time
when the orphan trains were happening and all these thousands
of kids were being moved across the country, the mental
institutions were full at capacity. They had thousands of people
in each facility. And I'm wondered if that was their

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parents that were committed to mental hospitals because they were
doing like we're doing right now on the show. We
were getting too close to the truth or we were
telling we were telling things that weren't popular so they
were putting institutions and their kids were shipped off where
they could then start putting them in schooling or or

(01:17:03):
teach them the history that they wanted this next generation
to learn.

Speaker 1 (01:17:10):
Yeah, well, we don't know, but right this is something
that we can research.

Speaker 3 (01:17:18):
It's just you look at the facts and you scratch
your head and go, that doesn't make sense that you
can the answers because they hid them so well.

Speaker 4 (01:17:30):
You know, at one time in history, you could mail
a baby through the US Male.

Speaker 3 (01:17:36):
I haven't heard that.

Speaker 1 (01:17:38):
Tell us about that.

Speaker 3 (01:17:40):
That's new to me.

Speaker 4 (01:17:42):
Yeah, you could. You could actually have your child delivered
through the mail and it be just it'd be just
like putting them on a train or a plane. Today,
you know, they haven't having them take care of them.
You know why they made their destination. But I believe
if you look it up online in the early nineteen
hundred words into the eighteen hundreds, whenever the mail system

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came about, you could actually pay the postage and have
it go through the system. I mean it wouldn't be
in a box or or anything like that, but they
would they would come pick up your child, or you
would deliver to the post office and they would make
routes on their way through the cities with your child.

Speaker 3 (01:18:20):
H my goodness, that's new to me.

Speaker 1 (01:18:24):
Wow, that's unbelievable. But it certainly is believable. But it's
unbelievable that they would allow that.

Speaker 4 (01:18:32):
But I mean that kind of fits in with the
orphan trains, with all these kids traveling on these trains
without any adults other than the workers of the trains
or whoever is running.

Speaker 1 (01:18:43):
Them, those poor kids.

Speaker 4 (01:18:48):
Absolutely.

Speaker 3 (01:18:53):
Wow, if you don't.

Speaker 4 (01:18:56):
Have a I have a couple more pictures, and we'll
call it a night after these pictures and then we'll
we'll let you tell everybody about your uh, what's going
on with you after after tonight. So I'll bring a
couple of pictures up and uh, since we were talking
about uh lost civilizations and Tartaria, and I thought these

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pictures would be good to end the show on.

Speaker 3 (01:19:28):
Oh wow, now even thousands of years ago, how did
they build some of these things?

Speaker 1 (01:19:36):
Was that was that in the Middle East? Yes, I believe,
so that's not separately.

Speaker 4 (01:19:42):
My pictures got jumbled up and the and the descriptions
of them went away.

Speaker 3 (01:19:46):
So is that a part of Petra.

Speaker 4 (01:19:51):
It's somewhere somewhere over there, no civilizations that they've been excavating,
and they've supposedly this civilization carved this all out of
this mountain.

Speaker 3 (01:20:02):
Yeah, Petra's beautiful, and that it.

Speaker 4 (01:20:04):
Makes you wonder was this all covered up as part
of the mud flood?

Speaker 3 (01:20:08):
Oh wow? So there you go thousands of years ago.
How they build these come on.

Speaker 4 (01:20:16):
And what was their purpose? Why would they have to
have these wow tops on them that looked like antennas.

Speaker 3 (01:20:25):
Yep, free energy, just beautiful buildings back then there are
oh oh my gosh.

Speaker 4 (01:20:38):
So you come across these temples and these that were
digging there were dug out and carved out of the
mountains or the surrounding environment as you will. And we've
discovered them or rediscovered them, and and there's always that question.

Speaker 1 (01:20:58):
Who who did that?

Speaker 4 (01:21:00):
You know, because we always have we have the the
question of the temples down in South America, all the
pyramids and stuff, and mostly even that civilization found those
and repurposed them for their they're living. So do we
know one hundred percent who lived in these No, we don't,

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or we don't know who actually built them either. We
can speculate, but we know that some civilizations have been
reported as finding these and using them for their own purpose.

Speaker 3 (01:21:34):
Nobody knows who built Petra. And if anybody don't know
what I'm talking about, look up the pictures of Petra.
It's just like these. It's a city that's carved into
a mountain. It's it's amazing, and nobody knows who did them.
Needs thousands years old, that's just amazing.

Speaker 4 (01:21:55):
I mean, I can't imagine, wow, carving all these details
with whatever tools they would have had without making a mistake,
and how intricate it is.

Speaker 3 (01:22:10):
Oh, those are stunning. And that's even older than Tartaria. Yes,
Pauli agrees. Yeah, Petra is beautiful and it's a mystery.
Oh wow, and what tools they had back then that

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you wouldn't chip away a big chunk and go oops,
now I have to start over again.

Speaker 1 (01:22:41):
So yeah, doctor John, pardon me?

Speaker 4 (01:22:45):
So where do you think of that? I have no
explanation on how those were made or who made them, and.

Speaker 1 (01:22:53):
It's just amazing and research will help us determine. All right,
So did you want to let me go through my
list of upcoming events?

Speaker 4 (01:23:03):
Yes? Absolutely, Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:23:05):
January eleventh, Fannin County Food Bank, The UFO Conference. There's
gonna be a lot of fun. We're gonna have Jessica Jones,
Matt Delf, Matt Matt Delf and a couple of other people,
and I'll be there. It's gonna be a lot of fun.

(01:23:25):
You can go to Scary Cast tomorrow. I've got to
put all these up. On March twenty second, the Georgia
Bigfoot Conference will be in Demorest, Georgia at the at
the Piedmont University Auditorium. That's gonna be a lot of fun,

(01:23:46):
a lot of cool people there. And then on May
ninth and tenth the Myrtle Beast Bigfoot Conference here at
the Sheraton four Points. So we're gonna have a lot
of fun, a lot of great things, and some more
conferences coming up after that. Be sure to check tomorrow Monday.

(01:24:08):
I'll go ahead and get these dates up so that
everyone can see them, and we hope you'll be there.
And I'll talk to you folks about coming to at
least one of our events because you're very interesting, You've
got great things to talk about, and I hope you'll
have you back.

Speaker 4 (01:24:22):
Oh, I'll definitely, man, Well, definitely we'll have you back
and we'll try to get to one of your events.
I like to play on words for Myrtle Beach to
Myrtle Beast.

Speaker 1 (01:24:32):
Yeah, yep, called Myrtle Beast biak. For the festival, it's
gonna be a lot of fun. And in the fall
in October, we're gonna have ghosts and Legends and that's
going to be the Saturday before Halloween. That's gonna be
a lot of fun. There's lots of ghosts and legends
down here in this area, so come join us and

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that information will be up on on my site, Scary Cast.
So enjoy it and I and by the way, I
have had so much fun. Y'all are two of the
nicest people I've had the pleasure of being on a
show with, and so good that we're all interested in
the same thing.

Speaker 3 (01:25:15):
Well, I'm glad we finally met. We've seen you several
times on Jessica's show, and Okay, we'll bring it back
and we'll finish up Tartaria. But I also want you
back again. And we're talking Sasquatch because that's one of
my favorite subjects too.

Speaker 1 (01:25:30):
Is big Yeah, Yeah, Well, let's get close to the
Georgia Big for conference and I'll be glad to come
back and talk about Sasquatch. We we were out at
a cemetery in Lake Mont, Georgia, trying to find Sasquatch.
We were not successful, but we have been successful before
that location. So we'll see. We'll keep on going. We'll

(01:25:51):
keep doing research because that's what life's all about for me.
Let's keep the research going.

Speaker 4 (01:25:56):
Yes, absolutely, I'm very interested and hearing about your conference
or your thing about the flat Earth that we did
a show of Jessica the Cryptis Huntress about flat Earth,
and we showed some of I presented some of the
maps that I had found that supported or the theory
of flat Earth, not saying that we necessarily are full

(01:26:18):
into flat earthers. I was always raised as a Glober
and I still believe in that theory. But it's interesting
to go and check out these other things that you find,
these maps and some old world maps and check that out.
So I very much would like to be able to
tune in to your whatever you have going on with
the Flat Earth conference.

Speaker 1 (01:26:39):
Okay, we've got Mark Sargeant, who's the head of the
Flat Earth Society on December the twenty sixth, along with
Jessica Jones, we're going to be talking about the flat Earth,
and boy, that's going to be kind of an exciting time.
So December twenty sixth, eight Eastern time, Uh Mark Sargeant,

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head of the Flat Earth Society, and Jessica Jones along
with me on Scary Cast. We're going to have a blast.
Please listen and it'll be fun, awesome.

Speaker 4 (01:27:13):
Absolutely well. Having said that, this has been a fun
evening and thank you very much doctor John for coming
on with us, and uh, well just say goodbye to
everybody in chat and uh we love you all and
thank you for tuning in. You guys all had great
questions and observations and I love how you guys are

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so loving and kind to each other and us and
our guests, So thank you very much for that. And
once again, doctor John, was a pleasure and we love
having thank you. We'll schedule you to come back and
continue this conversation.

Speaker 1 (01:27:49):
Sounds great, Thank you so much so.

Speaker 4 (01:27:53):
Having some of that. Audios everybody, love and peace and
we love you all and we'll see you next Sunday.

Speaker 3 (01:28:00):
Keep your vibrations high, yeah looking up, Keep your vibrations.

Speaker 4 (01:28:04):
High until next time. Love you all, Love you all,
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