January 8, 2025 • 54 mins
ScaryCast presents Atlanta actor Victor Riviera. Dr. John Stamey and Dr. Tray Dunaway host.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Good evening in life from a very cold Myrtle Beach,
South Carolina, unusually cold. I'm doctor John Stamy, and it's
great to be here on Scary Cast. We've got an
exciting guest. We do have a lot of good ones,
and we've got a great co host from Camden, South Carolina,
the one and only doctor Trey Dunaway. How are you tonight, Doctor.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Trey good John. I've got on a hoodie sweatshirt inside
because it is a little cool in South Carolina today.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Oh it's been. It's been cold all day and I
turned the heat up in here till seventy six. I mean,
it's like a heat wave in here. Because I just
don't like cold. That's why I moved to Myrtle Beach.
But anyway, it's glad. It's we're glad to have you here,
and we're gonna have a lot of fun tonight because
tonight from Atlanta, we've got an experienced actor. He's been
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in a number of horror films, he's been in a
number of commercials, all kinds of stuff, and he's gonna
tell us a little bit about his career and some
of the things he's done, so it'll be a lot
of fun. I would like to welcome to Scary Cast,
the one and only from Atlanta, Victor Rivera. How are
you doing tonight.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Victor, I'm doing very well, Thank you, doctors. It is
cold here in Atlanta as well, so the South seems
to be a frozen grip.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Well, I'll tell you what you talk about, a frozen grip.
I'm supposed to be up in Blue Ridge, Georgia, which
is not gonna be very blue. It's gonna be cold
as all get out, and probably four to eight inches
of snow between Friday night and Saturday morning. I know,
as much fun as we will have at that conference,
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I don't know that I want to be getting up
there in those mountains and sliding off the roads. I mean,
it's dangerous when you're driving a one lane roads on
the edge of a mountain. I don't know either one
of you have, but it's totally scary. But anyway, I'm
just glad to be down here in Myrtle Beach. It's
supposed to be starting getting lit a little bit warm
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by about Saturday, and I will take that. So anyway, Victor,
we have you here because I met you last year
in twenty twenty four. God's so weird to say. Last
year twenty twenty four at the Georgia Bigfoot Conference in Dillard, Georgia,
and it was wonderful meeting you. We had a we
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had a good time, and you told me you were
an actor and you were interested in Bigfoot and I
couldn't I could not have had a better time meeting you,
and that means a lot.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
And then you called me up about I don't know,
two months ago, and we've been talking and I'm going
to have you at a conference or two this year,
maybe more. And why don't you start telling us a
little bit about your career and how in the heck
did you end up in acting?
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Yeah, that's all very good questions. So I did about
ten years of theater in North Carolina, all throughout middle
and high school. I went to speaking of driving down
cold mountain pathways. I went to Appalachian State University in Boone,
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North Carolina for a four year degree in theater arts
performance concentration.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
All right, now, I've got to stop you perfect have
you ever heard of the town Morganton?
Speaker 3 (03:27):
I am geographically challenged, so assume I don't know where
anything is.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Tell me it's only thirty minutes from Boone.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
I if I went anywhere outside of Boone while I
was up there, then it might be familiar.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Yeah. Well I grew up there, so that's where as
that's where I am from. It was a wonderful town.
Met a lot of great people there. I need to
get back there more. I just got to go to
see my cousin and everything. She's a really great gal,
and she got a nice husband, nice kids. They're all great.
And in fact, I just talked to her this past
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week and said, now, Johnny, because up there I'm Johnny.
I'm not doctor John. He said, now, Johnny, you got
to get up here. I said, well I will, so
we'll we'll have to get up to Morganton and get
near Boone, North Carolina. It is beautiful up there. So
now you've got to a degree at Appalachian State. How
did you get This is the tacking question. How did
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you get in the movies?
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Well?
Speaker 1 (04:29):
I did.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
I did my four years at app State and then
uh maybe two or three in community theater in Raleigh area.
You know a little bit about Raleigh, doctor John.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Yes, I do know a little bit about Raleigh's where
I got my doctorate, and that's where I've had a
number of conferences at the Ramata End next to the
event to the Vet School there on Blue Ridge Road
of all places. Supposed to go to Blue Ridge Road
this this coming weekend. But yeah, I love Raleigh. It's
a lot of fun.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Oh yeah. Well, at the end of my three years,
I was in a production of Dracula. Actually this was
my second time playing Renfield.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Excuse excuse me. I've got to give you some applause.
My favorite book of all time, and I got to
tell you. I don't know if I've told you or not,
but you know the guy that wrote that book. What's
his name, Bram Stoker. Yep. I've had the pleasure to
meet and get to know his grand nephew and a
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good friend of mine in a former roommate. Wow, was
William Bella Lugosi or will Lugosi the fourth And so
I got to know the Lugosi family because I've known
him for a long time. Actually, so I can't say enough.
You got all the kudos now in the world that
you played Renfield in Dracula. I mean, god, I just
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love it. You never told me this. This is a
great eight. We'll have to talk about this sometime soon
on another podcast. I mean, I'm just such a big
fan of Dracula, and in fact, Matt Delf a very
good friend of scary casts, and I and his girlfriend
and Jessica Jones and her son are going to be
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going down to New Orleans to find some vampires here
in about three months.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Maybe you might.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Have to go with us. It's gonna be fun.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Yeah, that was one of your latest episodes. Actually a
scary cast was talking to about new Lands vampires.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but we did. We didn't talk about
we didn't talk about the real stuff. It was a
little too scary. But we'll we'll get down there and
we'll probably run a scary cast from down there in
New Orleans, and it'll be great. Jessica Jones and Matt
Delf and me and whoever else we can get to
the tag along. It'll be so much one I'll be
quiet now. It's so great that you love Dracula and
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you played Renfield truly one of my favorite characters in
horror movies, so that everybody remembers Renfield was the crazy
guy in the Insane. I will call it an insane Asylum,
and he happened to become friends with the big vampire,
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didn't he.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
So in our production we had the main stage and
then two satellite stages on either side that play the
roles of like a bedroom where it changes into something else,
but in one side was my insane asylum, so it
was built to be a padded cell. And the director,
who this was an original and adaptation, he wanted me
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to be on stage from the very beginning. So as
soon as the doors open into the production, then the
audience walks in and they want to see me sitting
in the in my padded se well from the very beginning,
so that's all of pre show, and then the lights
can go down on me and then go up on
the stage and you can go on with the rest
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of the play. But the director wanted me still to
be there, so I was on stage all of pre show,
all of Act one, you guessed it, all of intermission
where actually one of the doctors came in and then
put me in a straight jacket, so I was in
a straight jacket for half of intermission, then all of
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Act two except for spoiler alert for Dracula Renfield dies
but that was like the last ten minutes of the play.
So for a two hour show, I was on stage
for two hours and a half basically, and there were three.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
I've been in productions where it felt like it was
two hours, but it's actually ten minutes. So you know,
if you really were on there for almost two hours,
that's good.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Yeah. No, it kind of the opposite way, where it
was a two hour show but I felt like I
was on stage for eight hours. But it was a
three weekend show, which was one of the longer stretches
that I've ever done. And then at the end of
the third weekend, it was a Sunday matinee, so on
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the second floor of the theater, they actually had windows
that they had to cover up the afternoon sun, and
I was sitting there for an hour and forty five
minutes kind of looking up into the sunlight bleeding. And
this has been weeks of rehearsal and then weeks of show,
and my mind was wandering as they were doing another
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scene elsewhere, and I was like, do I want to
continue doing theater. Let's fast forward ten years. Do I
want to keep doing theater or do I want to
try something else? So the challenge of theater. At that point,
I felt very comfortab and I wanted to do something else.
So that is the perfect segue into well what else
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do you want to do? And I was like, well,
I've never acted on camera before, so I was like, okay, well,
then let's explore that. Do I want to go to
because after you graduate with a four year degree, you
either go to New York or Los Angeles or being Raleigh.
So I've been in Raleigh for three years at this point,
I've been to New York half a dozen times. I've
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never been to LA So I went out there and
tried that for a week. It wasn't really my thing.
And then I was sitting around going, well, let's see
do I. Oh, well, North Carolina has Wilmington on the
coast on the East coast, and that was booming for
on camera stuff, so let's try that. Oh No, all
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of those opportunities dried up because the tax credits unfortunately disappeared,
and that's where they were filming like Iron Man three,
So it was having some weight swamp thing, I believe.
So I was like, well, there's not that option either.
So then I heard about this little place called Atlanta, Georgia,
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and then they were starting their film productions. So I
moved down here in October twenty fifteen, and then, as
they say, the rest is history, because that is a
little less than ten years ago. And I started taking
on camera classes because I was trained theatrically, so I
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could fill an auditorium with big old facial gestures and
eyebrow twitches and everything, but acting in front of a
camera that's mere inches away from your face is a
completely different beast. It has all the same ingredients but
different proportions. So I took a couple of classes, and
then I was in a couple short films and student films,
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and then I signed with a really good agency down here,
and then flash forward to now I had been in
thirty four commercials. I actually flew to Prague, Chechia to
be in a commercial December twenty twenty two. Thirty four commercials.
I've been in a lot of really notable short films
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that went to a couple film festivals and got a
bunch of awards. I've been in some TV episodes. I
have done some motion capture and voiceover work. And then
my big movie claim to fame is that in twenty nineteen,
I was in a little movie called Zombiele and Double Tap,
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which is a sequel to Zombieland from two thousand and nine,
so this is ten years later. And that was amazing.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Wow, Is it amazing? Tell us?
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Because that was the biggest production I've ever been a
part of. It was nine days filming and it was
a big Hollywood blockbuster. It had all of the original
cast from Zombieland. So that's Woody Harrelson, Jesse Eisenberg, Abigail Breslyn,
and Emma Stone. If you are into actors or the
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movies at all, every one of those four people got
nominated for Oscars. Emma Stone this was back when she
only won one Oscar. She has won a second since.
So I've been working with four Academy nominated actors and
the original director and a bunch of talented cast and crew.
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And it was again nine of the best days of
my entire life. Because also we were filming in the
back lot of what was called the Pinewood Studios down
here in Atlanta, which is about forty five minutes south
of Atlanta proper in Fayetteville, Greenville, Georgia, I believe. But
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now it is Trilla's studios, so the backlot is literally
just a giant parking lot that they built the huge
set on. So if you've seen Zombielan Double Tap, there's
a location called Babylon which is half Hippi, half hipster commune.
And so I was one of the people there, civil
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war bearded guy, and I ended up getting a lot
of laughs in the movie.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Now, as your character, were you a zombie or were
you not zombie yet or did you become a zombie?
Speaker 3 (14:38):
That is one of the biggest questions I get asked
for zombie Land because if you watched the first one,
then the four characters, the four actors that I mentioned earlier,
they were pretty much the only humans left. So in
a surprise twist, I am not a zombie, but I'm
one of the survivors that kind of hid out at
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the top of the this extremely tall building and then
the zombies couldn't get Yeah, so I've been hanging out
up there for ten years. And then, as a bit
of a spoiler, I did not get zombiefied at the
end of the movie. I'm I'm still available for zombie
Land three in twenty twenty nine.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
So good, good, well that's great.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Yeah, So do you like being an actor? That's my
first question.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
I love it. It's a lot of hard work, it's
often thankless. But every six to eight months, I set
myself down and I go, Victor, what do you want?
What do you really want to do with your life?
And then the first answer is always I want to act,
and I'm like, okay, good, I just wanted to double check.
But yes, I still love the art behind it, the
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craft being a completely different person or thing or animal
from Victor Rivera. There's still a lot of things that
I haven't done that I want to. So two years
ago I started writing. Also, so I've written speaking of
Scary cast, I've written a short where I made my
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own monster, and it's called Vio No No and it's
this black beast with like this deer skull and I
walk around blackfur, but I walk around on arm extensions,
which are if you imagine crutches that you kind of
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are walking on your hands for it's what they use
for performing as monkeys or primates. For the plan of
the Apes new series with motion capture, and then a
lot of new monster techniques use arm extensions. So I
made my own arm extensions out of a pair of
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thrift shop crutches. And uh, we're going to be filming
that pretty soon here, which is excellent. I have I'm
building the costume also, so I have half of the
Oh No No sitting in my living room kind of
sprawled out on the floor. Uh, and that's very exciting.
So love monsters, Love monsters, says so zombies and the
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No No my original monster. And speaking of Atlanta, Georgia
is also where they filmed The Walking Dead all of that.
So I actually have auditioned for Walking Dead. I didn't
get the role, but just to audition for one of
the most well known horror TV shows of all time.
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That and I also auditioned for Fear of the Walking Dead,
so that has been part of my Atlanta legacy as well.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Well, that's great. I mean our buddy Kevin Holland, who
lives in Alabama, he was on The Walking Dead for
three years and he's had a lot of breaks. Yeah,
you've got a lot of great stories. He's he's come
to several of our Georgia Bigfoot conferences. A lot of
fun to talk to him. You'll, you know, hopefully you'll
get to know him when you come down there for
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the Georgia Bigfoot conferences. It's it's it's great. So you know,
we're making a lot of good connections for ourselves and
for other people, so we will continue to be doing
that doctor trade. Do you have a question? I have
kind of dominated the question pardon tonight because we have
so many commonalities with Victor. Do you have any questions?
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I know you're you're a smart guy and you come
up with good questions, so I'm gonna turn the floor
over to you for a minute.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
I've got a question about your arm extensions that you
can crutch for. Does it have a grip? Can you
grip with your hand and that translates to a grip
on the end of the arm. How does your arm
extension work?
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Yeah, very good question. So on a pair of crutches,
they have the actual grip that you would normally use
where you tuck the top padded portion underneath your arm
in your armpit and then reach down and grab onto
the grip with your hands. So basically what you would
do to transform a pair of crutches into arm extensions
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is you cut the metal from the grip to your armpit.
So you cut it about halfway and then you make
a brace almost so that you can put your arm
in using the same grip, so instead of under your arm,
then imagine that the top of the metal now is
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halfway up your forearm.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
So you oh, and it's on your it's it's it's
a braced on that.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
Yes, exactly. Yeah, So you have a belt or I
use duct tape because you know it's cheap, but it works.
And then at the very bottom there's the typical it
comes down to the the foot, so we reinforce that
with pretty much two feet and then that if you
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imagine the physiology of a chimp, that would be where
the knuckles and the hand meets the ground because chimps
were very similar. But chimp's arms are longer than us
anatomically speaking, so that is where that comes into playing.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
So does is the hand static or it is? It
is it?
Speaker 3 (20:32):
Can you grip so our our human hand with the
crutch that is static and it's holding onto that grip.
And then for if you use them for monkey acting,
then they'll edit in hand at the very bottom. So
it's all kind of an illusion. But I'm trying to
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work out figure out how to puppeteer fingers if I
do place them down there by makeing the grip have
some some finger mechanics and pulley system so normally it
does not it's all static and it's from your elbow
down is all one.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Line.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Well, you know, if you go to an orthotic shop
that does artificial limbs, they might be able to give
you a steer on how to how to how to
work that grip m and it's a little bit different
for them. It would it would not be an everyday
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occurrence to have an actor show up and ask how
you could get the monkey hand to grip, although done
through I guess C g I or or or magic
wizardry with electronics, maybe you wouldn't need to do that.
You just do the cg ivory.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
But still, that's there's so much to be said for
real effects versus Oh we can fix it in post
and we can always do so. Like part of my love,
I love motion capture, but I also love real life
items like the puppeteering and making. Oh yeah, that's a
brilliant idea, Doctor Trey. I've never thought about that. Actually,
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there's a company.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
In people that work with amputations more often figure out
all this stuff.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Yeah, that's something I've never I'm part of a lot
of motion capture Facebook groups, and that's the first time
I've ever heard this idea, which is marvelous.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Thank you, mmm, well, thank you, doctor Trey. That's great.
We're glad we gave Victor an idea that he might
be able to use soon.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
I'm stealing it.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
Yeah, that's that's the value of cross connectivity.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Do you know? Do you know about the story of
the green Field filter?
Speaker 3 (22:58):
Please tell me about the green Field filter.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Greenfield filter is a doctor Laser Greenfield, and a Greenfield
filter is put in the human body in the inferior
vena cava. It's done percutaneously, and it's to prevent clots
from a deep venus thrombosis in the lower extremities and
the calves from a plot break loose float through the heart,
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get pumped out into the lungs and you have a
pulmonary embolism and you have enough or big enough one
you can die. So doctor Greenfield was a vascular surgeon.
He was living in Houston, Texas. What do we know Houston,
Texas for before the space sports ball and like, who
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do but oilers. Is that ring a bell? Yeah, yeah,
oil industry. So here he is at a cocktail party
and he is talking to an oil guy and he's
describing how they pump oil through through pipelines, and they
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have pumping stations because the pressure would diminish as the
pipe gets longer and longer and further away from the pump.
So they have pumping stations. And evidently oil clots. I
didn't know this, but evidently oil clots, and when a
clot hits a pump, it messes up the pump. So
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the engineers came out with the design that stops the
clots from getting to the pump. It stops the clot
from advancing, and as the flow of oil continues pushing
against the clot that's now held in kind of a
cage network, it breaks apart the clot and it goes
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to the pump without causing pump damage. He got that idea.
He sketched something on the back of a cocktail napkin,
and voila, you have a life saving divid ice that
vascular surgeon figured out after talking to an oil executive. Wow,
that's amazing figure. That's the little little cross pollination and
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who knows what you can come up with. So try
try the prosthetic folks. They can probably if you go
to a big hospital that deals with prosthetics, they can
probably give you a steer or at least show you
some catalogs of some things that are available.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
Oh yeah, that's a great idea.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Yeah, well, that's.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
That's that's great. It's it's good when we can have
good ideas and share them with everybody else. I mean,
I've gotten a lot of my good research ideas, but
just talking to people and kind of extrapolating what they
said into what I was looking at doing. So it's
always been it's always been kind of good for my
career to do that exact same thing. All right. So now, Victor,
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you've been in some movies recently that have that are
kind of out right now or just recently. You want
to tell us about some of those.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
Yeah, So, zombie Land Double Tap was in twenty nineteen,
and then I don't know if y'all remember, but twenty
twenty is a year that'll live in infamy because of
you know, the coronavirus. So the industry froze for a
couple of years, and it's thawing out, and last year
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they were nervous about a cruise strike, so they didn't
really start any projects, and then the year before that
they had a historic actor and writers strike. But I
have been very fortunate and I'm thankful and grateful that
I have worked on a little couple projects. So I
have been involved in a lot of shorts that have
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been in a lot of horror film festivalsokxcuse me. And
the very first one was called lethalogica, which do either
of you doctors know what lethologica means?
Speaker 1 (27:03):
No, I don't.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
It is when something is just on the tip of
your tongue and you don't remember what it was, but
it's right there. So that's lethologica. And so we made
a short and I was involved in it, and if
you look it up, I think it's somewhere, but it's
it's a short horror film. And halfway through we followed
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this female protagonist, and then halfway through we find out
that she has chained me to a murder chair because
I was the cable guy, but I was up to
some nefarious things, so I am chained to this murder
chair and then she taunts me, demanding answers, and it's
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a little bit graphic, So the following is a bit graphic,
but it's also a scary cast. So if you'll excuse me,
we did some practical effect where she uses a pair
of pliers to tear my fingernail off, so that gets
audible squirms in the audience. But also at the end
we spat back and forth. I literally spit in her face,
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and then after she gets the information that she needs,
she takes this farming implement, which is pretty much a shovel,
and then jams it into my crotch. And that's an
important pardon. I bet that left the mark it shirted U. Yeah,
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so I don't recommend that for anyone. Do not try
that at home. But the murder chair was designed where
it looks like I'm sitting normally in a chair. But
then we cut and then we moved my legs. It's
a it's an old stage magician trick behind me. And
so then we attached a fake pair of legs, put
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it uh fake pair of legs, and then made it
look like my legs were draped over the chair again.
And then we filled a big old ziploc bag full
of blood and then put it in my lap underneath
the pants, and then she was quacking at that bag.
So there's a lot of blood in horror films, so
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that was one of the instances. Uh. Fun fact, I
actually decided to sit in that murder chair from the
very beginning when I was sat in it, and then
until the very end where I was wrapped. So that
was like eight hours of sitting in this murder chair,
to the point of they broke for lunch and they
had pizza over on the other side of the warehouse,
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and they offered me to stand up and go over
and get some pizza, and I was like, no, I'm fine,
I'm gonna stay in this murder chair.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
With eight hours in the murder chair and then eight
hours on set for the Dracula production, have you considered
negotiating a contract where you're paid by the hour that
you're on this that that might be that might be
a lucrative pathway for you.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
That's a very good yeah, if you're if you're new
to acting, especially on camera stuff, it's very hurry up
and wait. So it has not been uncommon where I
spent ten hours in my trailer, which is in my
honeywagon which is another name for a trailer. Uh, and
then they only use me for I think recently, I
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did a project where I was literally in this uh
this funeral home and I was there for like eleven hours,
and then they only used me to say one line
five times. So we did five takes of my one
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line and then that was hour twelve and they're like,
all right, thank you so much, Victor, we'll see you tomorrow.
So thankfully, actors in big productions do get a day rate,
So that's.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
So that's uh. That's part of the discipline of being
an on camera actor is they are the production is
worried about lights, and they're going to take as men
as long as they need to make sure the lights
are good. And then you just have to sit and
entertain yourself and then whenever they need you, then it's
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hurry up and wait, oh we need to run on set,
and then wait another two hours on set. Okay, now
we can go. So it's when you actually act in
front of the camera that's the whip cream on top.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
So well, you can't have the whip cream unless you
have everything underneath the hold up the whipped cream, so
it all comes together.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
That is a beautiful way to look at it, Doctor Trey,
thank you.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Yeah, yeah, that's that's certainly a good one. Fray. So
what okay? You've told us a couple of the films
that you've been in and some very enjoyable things, and
it looks like you're you're there regardless of the personal sacrifice,
because you want to be a good actor. What are
(32:17):
you looking to do in the future, What types of films,
what types of roles, and what would you do to
do them?
Speaker 3 (32:27):
Well, one of my favorite characters, one of my favorite
fictional characters, and then it bleeds out to tropes and stuff,
is Doctor Jekyl and mister Hyde. So one body portraying
two different personalities and the stark contrast between both of them.
That is always a character that I love, and that
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is one of my goals to do that. If you're
familiar with Batman, then my Favoriteatman villain his two face
where it's the same concept but physically so one half
of him is good, one half of them is bad.
So I have been chewing on how to be a
(33:14):
type of character like that. I didn't send you this
because it is still being edited, but I did do
a short where I played Victor, just a regular in
the human world Victor, but then I discover this painting,
and the painting is kind of evil, and so then
(33:38):
the short film takes us through normal human Victor and
then into this mirror in the living room, and then
mirror Victor. He's a bad son of a bitch. So
it was really fun playing human Victor out in the
meat space, but then turning the camera into the mirror
and then me being diabolical in an even tighter that's
(34:01):
a fun one. Coming out soon, but going back to
what is in my control, and then writing I have
a I'm still chewing on this, but I have a
movie idea, like a full length feature movie that is
(34:21):
an actor playing a role, and it might be as
of right now, the Mad Hatter from Alice in Wonderland,
Alice's Adventures in Wonderland, where the actor is portraying the
Mad Hatter in a children's TV show kind of very
sesame Street. But then producers and then this is all trademark, trademark, copyright, copyright, copyright,
(34:46):
so no one's steal this idea, but he's playing this character,
and then the producers cancel the TV show last minute,
and so then the actor this was his life's work.
But then without him knowing, the mad Hatter then goes
and maybe starts killing some of the producers in revenge,
(35:07):
and the actor doesn't know that the character is doing it,
and it's this very interesting. I'm still working on that,
But that's a project I've been trying to write for
four years now.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
These projects, you know, they do take time, don't they?
Speaker 3 (35:23):
Mm hmm, absolutely right.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
I've been working on a some kind of a project
with a great historical figure, probably for about twenty years,
and all of a sudden it just happened. The idea happened,
everything kind of worked, and now we're moving forward to it.
But that was about a twenty year standstill, Well how
do we do this? And also, in fact, I think
(35:48):
I mentioned it to you, Victor a little bit earlier.
Don't want to talk about it now until I get
a little more confirmation that we're going to be able
to do it. But yeah, it does take time to
make good projects work sometimes and you just have to
go with the flow and keep it in your head
and just keep hoping that it'll work, and then one
(36:08):
day it just mind.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. Well, uh, us talking about universal alignment
and synchronicity a little bit. Then we came together over
a Georgia Bigfoot conference and here I am now on
scary cast.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
And those connections are being made all the time, they
really are.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
And Doctor Trey, I guess you have the same types
of connections in the medical field. You meet people, you
learn from each other, and you go on and you improved.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
Right, that's the idea. It's always good. It's always good
to improve rather than to degenerate. So guess.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
Right, I certainly understand that. Well, yeah, that's what we do.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
One teach do, one teach one. So that's that's what
it's all about.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
Right, Well, Victor, that that's really cool. Tell us we've
got a little bit of time. Tell us maybe two
of your most interesting stories that you haven't told us yet.
I love your stories because I'm not an actor, and
I think actors are great. You learn a lot from them.
So give us a couple more stories about you on set,
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either in the theater or in film.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
Hmmm, yes, yes, yes, so, doctor Trey, you I believe
were a surgeon by trade for a number of years.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
Yes, Victor, did you know you're never supposed to ask
a doctor what kind of doctor they are?
Speaker 3 (37:41):
I did not, Thank you very much for teaching me that.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
So never mind, what do you want to know?
Speaker 3 (37:46):
Why is that a trap? Am I allowed to ask?
Why I'm not allowed to ask?
Speaker 2 (37:51):
Of course? Of course, if they're a surgeon, they're gonna
let you know. And if they're not, you're just gonna
make them feel bad. Yeah, surgical humor. Sure, okay, continue Victor.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
Yeah, Well then, doctor Trey, you have been working in
the medical field for a number of years. Ye, and
I'm sure you never had to do this. But as
a horror actor, sometimes we deal with a lot of
blood on our face and on our hands and in
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our mouth. So with that, for some of the special effects,
some of the blood is actually flavored, so we have
sometimes like a nice mint or a chocolate. So I
was in a couple of projects where they squirted some
fake blood in my mouth and then it tasted like dessert.
(38:55):
So that's something I don't know if a lot of
people know in the horror.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
Well, actually, I've got I've got a question for you.
I need to make some stage blood. You know a
formula that would work for me? I used I used
the formula before that had red poster paint, non toxic paint,
finger paint, child safe, carrow syrup and chocolate powder, uh,
(39:28):
Poka powder, and that made it a little darker, so
it wasn't quite as bright red. But what I've discovered
is it makes it makes it clots. Here we talk
about clots of vessels, and here's another clot and I've
got to inject it through a little nozzle, uh to
achieve an effect I look for. So I've got to
I've got to make some up for this weekend. Actually,
(39:50):
So I was just gonna go with the carol syrup
in the red and maybe put some darker food coloring
into make it a darker color. But do you have
any recipes you could share fan for stage blood?
Speaker 3 (40:02):
I do know that corn syrup is often really popular
makes it thick, Yeah, corn syrup. And then I've never
heard of paint before, but I know red food coloring.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
And coloring can make it stain, so I don't want
it stained. The red paint though, it's made for kids
to use, and and that washes out pretty well.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
Well, talking about connections. Also, in my almost ten years
here in Atlanta doing stuff, I have befriended a bunch
of special effects studios, so I will I could reach
out and ask them for some of their recipes.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
Oh, I'd love a recipe from you. I've looked them
up and this was this was when I found But again,
I need it thin enough so I can push it
through a pretty small nozzle. Have stream of blood come out?
Speaker 3 (41:02):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, two yeah. I'll get you a recipe,
doctor Trey, but you will real.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
Quickly before you you continue, Doctor Trey. May I give
Victor your telephone numbers so he can contact you?
Speaker 3 (41:16):
Of course, Amazer, I'll do that after the show are excellent? Uh,
and then for my second episode of Scary Cast, I
will announce the the phone number so on.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
Perfect because because I need more junk and spam calls.
Speaker 3 (41:34):
No, I'm kidding, but speaking of fit enough blood to
do some tricks, I was on an episode of creep
Show on the streaming site shutter on the streaming app
and creep Show originally were two different movies from Stephen
(41:56):
King Material, and then they turned it into a couple
seasons of an anthology season and I'm in the third
season in an episode called Skeletons in the closet and
we had to have an actor. Oh his name, I'm
(42:18):
oh James Reamer. There we go, who played the father
in Dexter. Speaking of blood, and we had a stunt
where one of the other actors slices his throat and
so we had a clear tube around Jamee Reamer's neck
and then it was kind of slid open. So then
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after the slice happened, then we fed a syringe of
blood through that and then it just started pouring down
his front. So that's fun. And then a second little
baby tangent is I filmed fifty five percent of a
movie up in Pennsylvania in October and November, and for
(43:01):
that scene, I can't or for that piece, I'm not
allowed to give too much away. But we are in
a corn field, me and some of the other actors
and there's a moment where a gun goes off and
then we are all showered in blood. So the first take,
(43:22):
we there's six of us in a row. I'm fifth
in line, and then we had these two fabulous special
effects people with pretty much air cannons pointed at us,
and so the director went all right, and three two
one sprays the first four beautifully drenches them in Quentin
(43:42):
Tarantino level blood me as five and then the other
actress as six. We got a light misting of blood.
So then they were like, we did the scene a
couple of times and they went and cut. Oh that
was awesome. You four head on inside and warm up
up because it was very cold. Victor, you and this
(44:04):
other actress stay here. We're gonna wipe you down and
then we're gonna spray you again. So then the second
time I got completely drenched, and that that's a beautiful
thing to see.
Speaker 2 (44:17):
I've actually had a similar experience.
Speaker 1 (44:22):
In the operating room.
Speaker 3 (44:25):
Now.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
It was in the hospital room.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
Oh m hm.
Speaker 2 (44:30):
I was a medical student and we had a patient
who is actively hemorrhaging, and the residents were all in
and they were squeezing the bags of blood.
Speaker 1 (44:44):
You can squeeze them.
Speaker 2 (44:44):
With your hand if you don't have the compression device
that you can inflate a like a big man bnometer,
but you can just squeeze a bag of blood because
it's flexible. And they squeezed it so hard and I
was doing CPR and the and the bag of blood
exploded and it was being held directly over me, so
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that was kind of that was messy.
Speaker 3 (45:12):
Yeah, I bet it did not taste like mint or chocolate.
Speaker 2 (45:15):
It was not mint flavored blood. It wasn't mint flavored blood.
But once I got cleaned up, they had to go
get a pair of scrubs so I could put the
scrubs on. Because you don't want to have even a
medical student in a nice white lab coat leaving a
hospital room covered with blood.
Speaker 3 (45:36):
That's a very good.
Speaker 2 (45:36):
Pop off, putting to patience. So we tried to avoid that.
Speaker 1 (45:42):
Really.
Speaker 2 (45:43):
Yeah, but it was not mint flavored. That would have
made it a lot better maybe.
Speaker 3 (45:47):
But well, speaking of that, I have a lot of
blood stories apparently, but for my Yeah, so for my
creep show episode, I just remembered this little bit. We
are filming into the wee hours of the morning, so
imagine it's two thirty in the morning. The crew are
very tired. We have three days to shoot my episode,
(46:09):
so it's two thirty in the morning. Do either of
you know of a special effects artist named Greg Nicotero?
Speaker 2 (46:19):
Haven't had the pleasure and do not know Greg.
Speaker 3 (46:23):
Well, this gentleman Greg Nicotero. He has been part of
some amazing projects all the way back to I want
to say this right, So I'm looking this up right now.
(46:44):
Which one was the first of the like Dawn of
the Dead, Day of the Dead series, not of a
living Dead, not a living Dead. I think it's a
little bit after that. Anyways, he is Actually.
Speaker 4 (47:00):
It would have been done of the Dead, yeah, Sosa,
no pre dusk, pre dawn, ye, the Noon of the
Dead really living dead?
Speaker 3 (47:14):
Yes, yeah. So he has worked with Tom Savigni, who's
also another special effects legend. He was part of the
Walking Dead makeup department. He is an executive producer. He's
done all sorts of amazing things. He is the executive
producer of Creep Show and the director for my episodes.
(47:36):
So this man who has decades of experience with special effects.
It is two thirty in the morning. We just shot
a scene where I was up to no good and
then he is delighting almost like a six year old
with a toothbrush dipped in the fake blood and then
splattering my face and all down my front, and then
(47:58):
flicking brain and then rearranging, oh, this strand of hair
looks better over here, And then he was the most
awake and alive ironically, just having the time of his life.
Splattering me with blood, and everyone else is so sleepy.
But that was really a treat.
Speaker 1 (48:22):
I'll bet It's always great to work with a legend.
I you know, I'm last week, I'm having lunch with
the greatest photographer in history in South Carolina. He's a legend.
I learned a lot from him. And you know, don't
you don't you agree that whenever you work with a legend,
(48:42):
you really can learn a lot when they're just breathing
and talking.
Speaker 3 (48:47):
Absolutely to the point of Greg Nicotaro. He was having
fun splattering me with blood. But also the other most
fun he had was because my episode title was Skeletons
in the Closet, then we had a couple skeletons do
some things that a skeleton outside of a body would
(49:11):
not normally do. So he was delighting in puppeteering these skeletons.
And he was lying on the ground just as he
did in the beginning of his filmmaking days, just with
a bike handle, bike brake handle, just moving the skeleton's
head back and forth and clattering the jaws, and you
(49:32):
could see his just whole spirit lighten up. It was
and I got to learn a lot from him and
then other special effects people on that set. Amazing.
Speaker 1 (49:44):
That's great.
Speaker 2 (49:45):
Yes, Trey, if you find a job where you're paid
well and you're doing stuff you love doing, then officially you've.
Speaker 3 (49:52):
Won, exactly. And I've been winning for count them, gentlemen,
twenty years because I did ten year as a theater
in North Carolina, and then I'm rounding up on my
ten years doing on camera stuff here in Atlanta, and
I am blessed and thankful and grateful for all my opportunities.
Speaker 2 (50:11):
That's great.
Speaker 1 (50:12):
That is that is wonderful, you know, Victor. It has
been a real pleasure talking to you, learning about you
as a person, learning about you as an actor and
your experiences. And I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna say, can
we have you back in a couple of weeks. I
have enjoyed this so much. That means so much.
Speaker 3 (50:33):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (50:34):
Yeah, you know, And and Trey, if you enjoyed it.
Speaker 2 (50:37):
I know I have any anytime I can talk about
blood and guts, you know, that's always a prime topic
for me.
Speaker 1 (50:46):
That's great. Well, you know, doctor Trey, you have saved
me quite a few times. I'm so glad you're my friend. Victor.
We got We've got a lot to talk about because
I've got maybe an opportunity or two that you might
want to part diticipate in. So it's great when you
meet people and you have something in common and you
can have fun doing it.
Speaker 3 (51:08):
You agree, absolutely, what a pleasure.
Speaker 1 (51:13):
Well, look, thanks so much for being with us tonight
on Scary Cast. You are officially our first broadcast of
the year. Now I don't know exactly when and where
this one will air, but it will be on of course,
iHeart Radio, it will be on Bigfoot radionetwork dot com.
All this fairly soon, but you'll be on there and
(51:36):
we'll let you know, and we'll have you back here
in a couple of weeks because we've got a lot
to talk about. And I can't wait to talk to
you about some of the film things that I'm involved in,
one down in Georgia and one here in Myrtle Beach,
and I might need some of your advice and wisdom
because I'll tell you what, the more I can get,
the better I will proceed in what I'm trying to do.
(51:59):
So and doctor Trev, of course, it's so good having
you here with us as we crank up this new year,
We're gonna have a lot of fun. I've got John
LeMay coming here hopefully next week, talking about his brand
new book, brand new book. It's called Cowboys and Zombies,
(52:20):
and I'm trying to see if I can get Kevin
Holland to The Walking Dead, who played zombie for three years,
to do a little cameo appearance on that. I think
it would be fun. I know I'm acting like a
nineteen fifties comedy show producer, but those guys, look at
Deslie Arns. Those guys were good and they produce things
that we revere today. So the more fun, I believe,
(52:43):
the more fun things you do for people to watch
and listen to, the better off everybody is. Do you agree,
doctor Trey.
Speaker 2 (52:50):
Oh yeah, you're having fun and you can get paid
having fun. That's even better.
Speaker 1 (52:55):
That's exactly right. Well again, doctor Trey, thank you so much.
It's so glad have you back for another year of
scary cast. Victor. It'll be good to have you back here.
In a couple of weeks we will talk more and
just so good to have everybody, and hopefully John I
may next week about Cowboys and Zombies. That's gonna be cool.
(53:15):
And we've got a lot of great guests coming up
on Scary Cast. So I want to thank everyone for
being here with us. Be good, be kind, be careful,
watch you out for this snow, because now I know
this weekend they're gonna have a lot of They're supposed
to have snow four to eight inches up in north
northeast East Georgia, which is gonna be kind of scary.
(53:37):
I might not be going up there because I don't know.
I don't like driving on one lane roads up a
mountain in snow. Now, I just don't know. That's not me.
But I'll probably stay around Myrtle Beach and do some
things to work on some of the projects that I've got.
And Victor will see you again soon. Doctor Trey will
see you again next week. And everybody take care, and
(54:01):
we'll see you on the one the Only Scary Cast.
Good Night, good night, Take care.
Good evening in life from a very cold Myrtle Beach,
South Carolina, unusually cold. I'm doctor John Stamy, and it's
great to be here on Scary Cast. We've got an
exciting guest. We do have a lot of good ones,
and we've got a great co host from Camden, South Carolina,
the one and only doctor Trey Dunaway. How are you tonight, Doctor.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Trey good John. I've got on a hoodie sweatshirt inside
because it is a little cool in South Carolina today.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Oh it's been. It's been cold all day and I
turned the heat up in here till seventy six. I mean,
it's like a heat wave in here. Because I just
don't like cold. That's why I moved to Myrtle Beach.
But anyway, it's glad. It's we're glad to have you here,
and we're gonna have a lot of fun tonight because
tonight from Atlanta, we've got an experienced actor. He's been
(00:52):
in a number of horror films, he's been in a
number of commercials, all kinds of stuff, and he's gonna
tell us a little bit about his career and some
of the things he's done, so it'll be a lot
of fun. I would like to welcome to Scary Cast,
the one and only from Atlanta, Victor Rivera. How are
you doing tonight.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Victor, I'm doing very well, Thank you, doctors. It is
cold here in Atlanta as well, so the South seems
to be a frozen grip.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Well, I'll tell you what you talk about, a frozen grip.
I'm supposed to be up in Blue Ridge, Georgia, which
is not gonna be very blue. It's gonna be cold
as all get out, and probably four to eight inches
of snow between Friday night and Saturday morning. I know,
as much fun as we will have at that conference,
(01:40):
I don't know that I want to be getting up
there in those mountains and sliding off the roads. I mean,
it's dangerous when you're driving a one lane roads on
the edge of a mountain. I don't know either one
of you have, but it's totally scary. But anyway, I'm
just glad to be down here in Myrtle Beach. It's
supposed to be starting getting lit a little bit warm
(02:01):
by about Saturday, and I will take that. So anyway, Victor,
we have you here because I met you last year
in twenty twenty four. God's so weird to say. Last
year twenty twenty four at the Georgia Bigfoot Conference in Dillard, Georgia,
and it was wonderful meeting you. We had a we
(02:22):
had a good time, and you told me you were
an actor and you were interested in Bigfoot and I
couldn't I could not have had a better time meeting you,
and that means a lot.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
And then you called me up about I don't know,
two months ago, and we've been talking and I'm going
to have you at a conference or two this year,
maybe more. And why don't you start telling us a
little bit about your career and how in the heck
did you end up in acting?
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Yeah, that's all very good questions. So I did about
ten years of theater in North Carolina, all throughout middle
and high school. I went to speaking of driving down
cold mountain pathways. I went to Appalachian State University in Boone,
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North Carolina for a four year degree in theater arts
performance concentration.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
All right, now, I've got to stop you perfect have
you ever heard of the town Morganton?
Speaker 3 (03:27):
I am geographically challenged, so assume I don't know where
anything is.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Tell me it's only thirty minutes from Boone.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
I if I went anywhere outside of Boone while I
was up there, then it might be familiar.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Yeah. Well I grew up there, so that's where as
that's where I am from. It was a wonderful town.
Met a lot of great people there. I need to
get back there more. I just got to go to
see my cousin and everything. She's a really great gal,
and she got a nice husband, nice kids. They're all great.
And in fact, I just talked to her this past
(04:02):
week and said, now, Johnny, because up there I'm Johnny.
I'm not doctor John. He said, now, Johnny, you got
to get up here. I said, well I will, so
we'll we'll have to get up to Morganton and get
near Boone, North Carolina. It is beautiful up there. So
now you've got to a degree at Appalachian State. How
did you get This is the tacking question. How did
(04:25):
you get in the movies?
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Well?
Speaker 1 (04:29):
I did.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
I did my four years at app State and then
uh maybe two or three in community theater in Raleigh area.
You know a little bit about Raleigh, doctor John.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Yes, I do know a little bit about Raleigh's where
I got my doctorate, and that's where I've had a
number of conferences at the Ramata End next to the
event to the Vet School there on Blue Ridge Road
of all places. Supposed to go to Blue Ridge Road
this this coming weekend. But yeah, I love Raleigh. It's
a lot of fun.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Oh yeah. Well, at the end of my three years,
I was in a production of Dracula. Actually this was
my second time playing Renfield.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Excuse excuse me. I've got to give you some applause.
My favorite book of all time, and I got to
tell you. I don't know if I've told you or not,
but you know the guy that wrote that book. What's
his name, Bram Stoker. Yep. I've had the pleasure to
meet and get to know his grand nephew and a
(05:34):
good friend of mine in a former roommate. Wow, was
William Bella Lugosi or will Lugosi the fourth And so
I got to know the Lugosi family because I've known
him for a long time. Actually, so I can't say enough.
You got all the kudos now in the world that
you played Renfield in Dracula. I mean, god, I just
(05:56):
love it. You never told me this. This is a
great eight. We'll have to talk about this sometime soon
on another podcast. I mean, I'm just such a big
fan of Dracula, and in fact, Matt Delf a very
good friend of scary casts, and I and his girlfriend
and Jessica Jones and her son are going to be
(06:17):
going down to New Orleans to find some vampires here
in about three months.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Maybe you might.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Have to go with us. It's gonna be fun.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Yeah, that was one of your latest episodes. Actually a
scary cast was talking to about new Lands vampires.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but we did. We didn't talk about
we didn't talk about the real stuff. It was a
little too scary. But we'll we'll get down there and
we'll probably run a scary cast from down there in
New Orleans, and it'll be great. Jessica Jones and Matt
Delf and me and whoever else we can get to
the tag along. It'll be so much one I'll be
quiet now. It's so great that you love Dracula and
(06:57):
you played Renfield truly one of my favorite characters in
horror movies, so that everybody remembers Renfield was the crazy
guy in the Insane. I will call it an insane Asylum,
and he happened to become friends with the big vampire,
(07:17):
didn't he.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
So in our production we had the main stage and
then two satellite stages on either side that play the
roles of like a bedroom where it changes into something else,
but in one side was my insane asylum, so it
was built to be a padded cell. And the director,
who this was an original and adaptation, he wanted me
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to be on stage from the very beginning. So as
soon as the doors open into the production, then the
audience walks in and they want to see me sitting
in the in my padded se well from the very beginning,
so that's all of pre show, and then the lights
can go down on me and then go up on
the stage and you can go on with the rest
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of the play. But the director wanted me still to
be there, so I was on stage all of pre show,
all of Act one, you guessed it, all of intermission
where actually one of the doctors came in and then
put me in a straight jacket, so I was in
a straight jacket for half of intermission, then all of
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Act two except for spoiler alert for Dracula Renfield dies
but that was like the last ten minutes of the play.
So for a two hour show, I was on stage
for two hours and a half basically, and there were three.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
I've been in productions where it felt like it was
two hours, but it's actually ten minutes. So you know,
if you really were on there for almost two hours,
that's good.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Yeah. No, it kind of the opposite way, where it
was a two hour show but I felt like I
was on stage for eight hours. But it was a
three weekend show, which was one of the longer stretches
that I've ever done. And then at the end of
the third weekend, it was a Sunday matinee, so on
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the second floor of the theater, they actually had windows
that they had to cover up the afternoon sun, and
I was sitting there for an hour and forty five
minutes kind of looking up into the sunlight bleeding. And
this has been weeks of rehearsal and then weeks of show,
and my mind was wandering as they were doing another
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scene elsewhere, and I was like, do I want to
continue doing theater. Let's fast forward ten years. Do I
want to keep doing theater or do I want to
try something else? So the challenge of theater. At that point,
I felt very comfortab and I wanted to do something else.
So that is the perfect segue into well what else
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do you want to do? And I was like, well,
I've never acted on camera before, so I was like, okay, well,
then let's explore that. Do I want to go to
because after you graduate with a four year degree, you
either go to New York or Los Angeles or being Raleigh.
So I've been in Raleigh for three years at this point,
I've been to New York half a dozen times. I've
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never been to LA So I went out there and
tried that for a week. It wasn't really my thing.
And then I was sitting around going, well, let's see
do I. Oh, well, North Carolina has Wilmington on the
coast on the East coast, and that was booming for
on camera stuff, so let's try that. Oh No, all
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of those opportunities dried up because the tax credits unfortunately disappeared,
and that's where they were filming like Iron Man three,
So it was having some weight swamp thing, I believe.
So I was like, well, there's not that option either.
So then I heard about this little place called Atlanta, Georgia,
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and then they were starting their film productions. So I
moved down here in October twenty fifteen, and then, as
they say, the rest is history, because that is a
little less than ten years ago. And I started taking
on camera classes because I was trained theatrically, so I
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could fill an auditorium with big old facial gestures and
eyebrow twitches and everything, but acting in front of a
camera that's mere inches away from your face is a
completely different beast. It has all the same ingredients but
different proportions. So I took a couple of classes, and
then I was in a couple short films and student films,
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and then I signed with a really good agency down here,
and then flash forward to now I had been in
thirty four commercials. I actually flew to Prague, Chechia to
be in a commercial December twenty twenty two. Thirty four commercials.
I've been in a lot of really notable short films
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that went to a couple film festivals and got a
bunch of awards. I've been in some TV episodes. I
have done some motion capture and voiceover work. And then
my big movie claim to fame is that in twenty nineteen,
I was in a little movie called Zombiele and Double Tap,
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which is a sequel to Zombieland from two thousand and nine,
so this is ten years later. And that was amazing.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Wow, Is it amazing? Tell us?
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Because that was the biggest production I've ever been a
part of. It was nine days filming and it was
a big Hollywood blockbuster. It had all of the original
cast from Zombieland. So that's Woody Harrelson, Jesse Eisenberg, Abigail Breslyn,
and Emma Stone. If you are into actors or the
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movies at all, every one of those four people got
nominated for Oscars. Emma Stone this was back when she
only won one Oscar. She has won a second since.
So I've been working with four Academy nominated actors and
the original director and a bunch of talented cast and crew.
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And it was again nine of the best days of
my entire life. Because also we were filming in the
back lot of what was called the Pinewood Studios down
here in Atlanta, which is about forty five minutes south
of Atlanta proper in Fayetteville, Greenville, Georgia, I believe. But
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now it is Trilla's studios, so the backlot is literally
just a giant parking lot that they built the huge
set on. So if you've seen Zombielan Double Tap, there's
a location called Babylon which is half Hippi, half hipster commune.
And so I was one of the people there, civil
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war bearded guy, and I ended up getting a lot
of laughs in the movie.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Now, as your character, were you a zombie or were
you not zombie yet or did you become a zombie?
Speaker 3 (14:38):
That is one of the biggest questions I get asked
for zombie Land because if you watched the first one,
then the four characters, the four actors that I mentioned earlier,
they were pretty much the only humans left. So in
a surprise twist, I am not a zombie, but I'm
one of the survivors that kind of hid out at
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the top of the this extremely tall building and then
the zombies couldn't get Yeah, so I've been hanging out
up there for ten years. And then, as a bit
of a spoiler, I did not get zombiefied at the
end of the movie. I'm I'm still available for zombie
Land three in twenty twenty nine.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
So good, good, well that's great.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Yeah, So do you like being an actor? That's my
first question.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
I love it. It's a lot of hard work, it's
often thankless. But every six to eight months, I set
myself down and I go, Victor, what do you want?
What do you really want to do with your life?
And then the first answer is always I want to act,
and I'm like, okay, good, I just wanted to double check.
But yes, I still love the art behind it, the
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craft being a completely different person or thing or animal
from Victor Rivera. There's still a lot of things that
I haven't done that I want to. So two years
ago I started writing. Also, so I've written speaking of
Scary cast, I've written a short where I made my
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own monster, and it's called Vio No No and it's
this black beast with like this deer skull and I
walk around blackfur, but I walk around on arm extensions,
which are if you imagine crutches that you kind of
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are walking on your hands for it's what they use
for performing as monkeys or primates. For the plan of
the Apes new series with motion capture, and then a
lot of new monster techniques use arm extensions. So I
made my own arm extensions out of a pair of
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thrift shop crutches. And uh, we're going to be filming
that pretty soon here, which is excellent. I have I'm
building the costume also, so I have half of the
Oh No No sitting in my living room kind of
sprawled out on the floor. Uh, and that's very exciting.
So love monsters, Love monsters, says so zombies and the
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No No my original monster. And speaking of Atlanta, Georgia
is also where they filmed The Walking Dead all of that.
So I actually have auditioned for Walking Dead. I didn't
get the role, but just to audition for one of
the most well known horror TV shows of all time.
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That and I also auditioned for Fear of the Walking Dead,
so that has been part of my Atlanta legacy as well.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Well, that's great. I mean our buddy Kevin Holland, who
lives in Alabama, he was on The Walking Dead for
three years and he's had a lot of breaks. Yeah,
you've got a lot of great stories. He's he's come
to several of our Georgia Bigfoot conferences. A lot of
fun to talk to him. You'll, you know, hopefully you'll
get to know him when you come down there for
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the Georgia Bigfoot conferences. It's it's it's great. So you know,
we're making a lot of good connections for ourselves and
for other people, so we will continue to be doing
that doctor trade. Do you have a question? I have
kind of dominated the question pardon tonight because we have
so many commonalities with Victor. Do you have any questions?
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I know you're you're a smart guy and you come
up with good questions, so I'm gonna turn the floor
over to you for a minute.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
I've got a question about your arm extensions that you
can crutch for. Does it have a grip? Can you
grip with your hand and that translates to a grip
on the end of the arm. How does your arm
extension work?
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Yeah, very good question. So on a pair of crutches,
they have the actual grip that you would normally use
where you tuck the top padded portion underneath your arm
in your armpit and then reach down and grab onto
the grip with your hands. So basically what you would
do to transform a pair of crutches into arm extensions
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is you cut the metal from the grip to your armpit.
So you cut it about halfway and then you make
a brace almost so that you can put your arm
in using the same grip, so instead of under your arm,
then imagine that the top of the metal now is
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halfway up your forearm.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
So you oh, and it's on your it's it's it's
a braced on that.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
Yes, exactly. Yeah, So you have a belt or I
use duct tape because you know it's cheap, but it works.
And then at the very bottom there's the typical it
comes down to the the foot, so we reinforce that
with pretty much two feet and then that if you
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imagine the physiology of a chimp, that would be where
the knuckles and the hand meets the ground because chimps
were very similar. But chimp's arms are longer than us
anatomically speaking, so that is where that comes into playing.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
So does is the hand static or it is? It
is it?
Speaker 3 (20:32):
Can you grip so our our human hand with the
crutch that is static and it's holding onto that grip.
And then for if you use them for monkey acting,
then they'll edit in hand at the very bottom. So
it's all kind of an illusion. But I'm trying to
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work out figure out how to puppeteer fingers if I
do place them down there by makeing the grip have
some some finger mechanics and pulley system so normally it
does not it's all static and it's from your elbow
down is all one.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Line.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Well, you know, if you go to an orthotic shop
that does artificial limbs, they might be able to give
you a steer on how to how to how to
work that grip m and it's a little bit different
for them. It would it would not be an everyday
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occurrence to have an actor show up and ask how
you could get the monkey hand to grip, although done
through I guess C g I or or or magic
wizardry with electronics, maybe you wouldn't need to do that.
You just do the cg ivory.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
But still, that's there's so much to be said for
real effects versus Oh we can fix it in post
and we can always do so. Like part of my love,
I love motion capture, but I also love real life
items like the puppeteering and making. Oh yeah, that's a
brilliant idea, Doctor Trey. I've never thought about that. Actually,
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there's a company.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
In people that work with amputations more often figure out
all this stuff.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Yeah, that's something I've never I'm part of a lot
of motion capture Facebook groups, and that's the first time
I've ever heard this idea, which is marvelous.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Thank you, mmm, well, thank you, doctor Trey. That's great.
We're glad we gave Victor an idea that he might
be able to use soon.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
I'm stealing it.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
Yeah, that's that's the value of cross connectivity.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Do you know? Do you know about the story of
the green Field filter?
Speaker 3 (22:58):
Please tell me about the green Field filter.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Greenfield filter is a doctor Laser Greenfield, and a Greenfield
filter is put in the human body in the inferior
vena cava. It's done percutaneously, and it's to prevent clots
from a deep venus thrombosis in the lower extremities and
the calves from a plot break loose float through the heart,
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get pumped out into the lungs and you have a
pulmonary embolism and you have enough or big enough one
you can die. So doctor Greenfield was a vascular surgeon.
He was living in Houston, Texas. What do we know Houston,
Texas for before the space sports ball and like, who
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do but oilers. Is that ring a bell? Yeah, yeah,
oil industry. So here he is at a cocktail party
and he is talking to an oil guy and he's
describing how they pump oil through through pipelines, and they
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have pumping stations because the pressure would diminish as the
pipe gets longer and longer and further away from the pump.
So they have pumping stations. And evidently oil clots. I
didn't know this, but evidently oil clots, and when a
clot hits a pump, it messes up the pump. So
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the engineers came out with the design that stops the
clots from getting to the pump. It stops the clot
from advancing, and as the flow of oil continues pushing
against the clot that's now held in kind of a
cage network, it breaks apart the clot and it goes
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to the pump without causing pump damage. He got that idea.
He sketched something on the back of a cocktail napkin,
and voila, you have a life saving divid ice that
vascular surgeon figured out after talking to an oil executive. Wow,
that's amazing figure. That's the little little cross pollination and
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who knows what you can come up with. So try
try the prosthetic folks. They can probably if you go
to a big hospital that deals with prosthetics, they can
probably give you a steer or at least show you
some catalogs of some things that are available.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
Oh yeah, that's a great idea.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Yeah, well, that's.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
That's that's great. It's it's good when we can have
good ideas and share them with everybody else. I mean,
I've gotten a lot of my good research ideas, but
just talking to people and kind of extrapolating what they
said into what I was looking at doing. So it's
always been it's always been kind of good for my
career to do that exact same thing. All right. So now, Victor,
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you've been in some movies recently that have that are
kind of out right now or just recently. You want
to tell us about some of those.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
Yeah, So, zombie Land Double Tap was in twenty nineteen,
and then I don't know if y'all remember, but twenty
twenty is a year that'll live in infamy because of
you know, the coronavirus. So the industry froze for a
couple of years, and it's thawing out, and last year
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they were nervous about a cruise strike, so they didn't
really start any projects, and then the year before that
they had a historic actor and writers strike. But I
have been very fortunate and I'm thankful and grateful that
I have worked on a little couple projects. So I
have been involved in a lot of shorts that have
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been in a lot of horror film festivalsokxcuse me. And
the very first one was called lethalogica, which do either
of you doctors know what lethologica means?
Speaker 1 (27:03):
No, I don't.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
It is when something is just on the tip of
your tongue and you don't remember what it was, but
it's right there. So that's lethologica. And so we made
a short and I was involved in it, and if
you look it up, I think it's somewhere, but it's
it's a short horror film. And halfway through we followed
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this female protagonist, and then halfway through we find out
that she has chained me to a murder chair because
I was the cable guy, but I was up to
some nefarious things, so I am chained to this murder
chair and then she taunts me, demanding answers, and it's
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a little bit graphic, So the following is a bit graphic,
but it's also a scary cast. So if you'll excuse me,
we did some practical effect where she uses a pair
of pliers to tear my fingernail off, so that gets
audible squirms in the audience. But also at the end
we spat back and forth. I literally spit in her face,
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and then after she gets the information that she needs,
she takes this farming implement, which is pretty much a shovel,
and then jams it into my crotch. And that's an
important pardon. I bet that left the mark it shirted U. Yeah,
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so I don't recommend that for anyone. Do not try
that at home. But the murder chair was designed where
it looks like I'm sitting normally in a chair. But
then we cut and then we moved my legs. It's
a it's an old stage magician trick behind me. And
so then we attached a fake pair of legs, put
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it uh fake pair of legs, and then made it
look like my legs were draped over the chair again.
And then we filled a big old ziploc bag full
of blood and then put it in my lap underneath
the pants, and then she was quacking at that bag.
So there's a lot of blood in horror films, so
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that was one of the instances. Uh. Fun fact, I
actually decided to sit in that murder chair from the
very beginning when I was sat in it, and then
until the very end where I was wrapped. So that
was like eight hours of sitting in this murder chair,
to the point of they broke for lunch and they
had pizza over on the other side of the warehouse,
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and they offered me to stand up and go over
and get some pizza, and I was like, no, I'm fine,
I'm gonna stay in this murder chair.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
With eight hours in the murder chair and then eight
hours on set for the Dracula production, have you considered
negotiating a contract where you're paid by the hour that
you're on this that that might be that might be
a lucrative pathway for you.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
That's a very good yeah, if you're if you're new
to acting, especially on camera stuff, it's very hurry up
and wait. So it has not been uncommon where I
spent ten hours in my trailer, which is in my
honeywagon which is another name for a trailer. Uh, and
then they only use me for I think recently, I
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did a project where I was literally in this uh
this funeral home and I was there for like eleven hours,
and then they only used me to say one line
five times. So we did five takes of my one
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line and then that was hour twelve and they're like,
all right, thank you so much, Victor, we'll see you tomorrow.
So thankfully, actors in big productions do get a day rate,
So that's.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
So that's uh. That's part of the discipline of being
an on camera actor is they are the production is
worried about lights, and they're going to take as men
as long as they need to make sure the lights
are good. And then you just have to sit and
entertain yourself and then whenever they need you, then it's
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hurry up and wait, oh we need to run on set,
and then wait another two hours on set. Okay, now
we can go. So it's when you actually act in
front of the camera that's the whip cream on top.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
So well, you can't have the whip cream unless you
have everything underneath the hold up the whipped cream, so
it all comes together.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
That is a beautiful way to look at it, Doctor Trey,
thank you.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Yeah, yeah, that's that's certainly a good one. Fray. So
what okay? You've told us a couple of the films
that you've been in and some very enjoyable things, and
it looks like you're you're there regardless of the personal sacrifice,
because you want to be a good actor. What are
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you looking to do in the future, What types of films,
what types of roles, and what would you do to
do them?
Speaker 3 (32:27):
Well, one of my favorite characters, one of my favorite
fictional characters, and then it bleeds out to tropes and stuff,
is Doctor Jekyl and mister Hyde. So one body portraying
two different personalities and the stark contrast between both of them.
That is always a character that I love, and that
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is one of my goals to do that. If you're
familiar with Batman, then my Favoriteatman villain his two face
where it's the same concept but physically so one half
of him is good, one half of them is bad.
So I have been chewing on how to be a
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type of character like that. I didn't send you this
because it is still being edited, but I did do
a short where I played Victor, just a regular in
the human world Victor, but then I discover this painting,
and the painting is kind of evil, and so then
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the short film takes us through normal human Victor and
then into this mirror in the living room, and then
mirror Victor. He's a bad son of a bitch. So
it was really fun playing human Victor out in the
meat space, but then turning the camera into the mirror
and then me being diabolical in an even tighter that's
(34:01):
a fun one. Coming out soon, but going back to
what is in my control, and then writing I have
a I'm still chewing on this, but I have a
movie idea, like a full length feature movie that is
(34:21):
an actor playing a role, and it might be as
of right now, the Mad Hatter from Alice in Wonderland,
Alice's Adventures in Wonderland, where the actor is portraying the
Mad Hatter in a children's TV show kind of very
sesame Street. But then producers and then this is all trademark, trademark, copyright, copyright, copyright,
(34:46):
so no one's steal this idea, but he's playing this character,
and then the producers cancel the TV show last minute,
and so then the actor this was his life's work.
But then without him knowing, the mad Hatter then goes
and maybe starts killing some of the producers in revenge,
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and the actor doesn't know that the character is doing it,
and it's this very interesting. I'm still working on that,
But that's a project I've been trying to write for
four years now.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
These projects, you know, they do take time, don't they?
Speaker 3 (35:23):
Mm hmm, absolutely right.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
I've been working on a some kind of a project
with a great historical figure, probably for about twenty years,
and all of a sudden it just happened. The idea happened,
everything kind of worked, and now we're moving forward to it.
But that was about a twenty year standstill, Well how
do we do this? And also, in fact, I think
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I mentioned it to you, Victor a little bit earlier.
Don't want to talk about it now until I get
a little more confirmation that we're going to be able
to do it. But yeah, it does take time to
make good projects work sometimes and you just have to
go with the flow and keep it in your head
and just keep hoping that it'll work, and then one
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day it just mind.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. Well, uh, us talking about universal alignment
and synchronicity a little bit. Then we came together over
a Georgia Bigfoot conference and here I am now on
scary cast.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
And those connections are being made all the time, they
really are.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
And Doctor Trey, I guess you have the same types
of connections in the medical field. You meet people, you
learn from each other, and you go on and you improved.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
Right, that's the idea. It's always good. It's always good
to improve rather than to degenerate. So guess.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
Right, I certainly understand that. Well, yeah, that's what we do.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
One teach do, one teach one. So that's that's what
it's all about.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
Right, Well, Victor, that that's really cool. Tell us we've
got a little bit of time. Tell us maybe two
of your most interesting stories that you haven't told us yet.
I love your stories because I'm not an actor, and
I think actors are great. You learn a lot from them.
So give us a couple more stories about you on set,
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either in the theater or in film.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
Hmmm, yes, yes, yes, so, doctor Trey, you I believe
were a surgeon by trade for a number of years.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
Yes, Victor, did you know you're never supposed to ask
a doctor what kind of doctor they are?
Speaker 3 (37:41):
I did not, Thank you very much for teaching me that.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
So never mind, what do you want to know?
Speaker 3 (37:46):
Why is that a trap? Am I allowed to ask?
Why I'm not allowed to ask?
Speaker 2 (37:51):
Of course? Of course, if they're a surgeon, they're gonna
let you know. And if they're not, you're just gonna
make them feel bad. Yeah, surgical humor. Sure, okay, continue Victor.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
Yeah, Well then, doctor Trey, you have been working in
the medical field for a number of years. Ye, and
I'm sure you never had to do this. But as
a horror actor, sometimes we deal with a lot of
blood on our face and on our hands and in
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our mouth. So with that, for some of the special effects,
some of the blood is actually flavored, so we have
sometimes like a nice mint or a chocolate. So I
was in a couple of projects where they squirted some
fake blood in my mouth and then it tasted like dessert.
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So that's something I don't know if a lot of
people know in the horror.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
Well, actually, I've got I've got a question for you.
I need to make some stage blood. You know a
formula that would work for me? I used I used
the formula before that had red poster paint, non toxic paint,
finger paint, child safe, carrow syrup and chocolate powder, uh,
(39:28):
Poka powder, and that made it a little darker, so
it wasn't quite as bright red. But what I've discovered
is it makes it makes it clots. Here we talk
about clots of vessels, and here's another clot and I've
got to inject it through a little nozzle, uh to
achieve an effect I look for. So I've got to
I've got to make some up for this weekend. Actually,
(39:50):
So I was just gonna go with the carol syrup
in the red and maybe put some darker food coloring
into make it a darker color. But do you have
any recipes you could share fan for stage blood?
Speaker 3 (40:02):
I do know that corn syrup is often really popular
makes it thick, Yeah, corn syrup. And then I've never
heard of paint before, but I know red food coloring.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
And coloring can make it stain, so I don't want
it stained. The red paint though, it's made for kids
to use, and and that washes out pretty well.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
Well, talking about connections. Also, in my almost ten years
here in Atlanta doing stuff, I have befriended a bunch
of special effects studios, so I will I could reach
out and ask them for some of their recipes.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
Oh, I'd love a recipe from you. I've looked them
up and this was this was when I found But again,
I need it thin enough so I can push it
through a pretty small nozzle. Have stream of blood come out?
Speaker 3 (41:02):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, two yeah. I'll get you a recipe,
doctor Trey, but you will real.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
Quickly before you you continue, Doctor Trey. May I give
Victor your telephone numbers so he can contact you?
Speaker 3 (41:16):
Of course, Amazer, I'll do that after the show are excellent? Uh,
and then for my second episode of Scary Cast, I
will announce the the phone number so on.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
Perfect because because I need more junk and spam calls.
Speaker 3 (41:34):
No, I'm kidding, but speaking of fit enough blood to
do some tricks, I was on an episode of creep
Show on the streaming site shutter on the streaming app
and creep Show originally were two different movies from Stephen
(41:56):
King Material, and then they turned it into a couple
seasons of an anthology season and I'm in the third
season in an episode called Skeletons in the closet and
we had to have an actor. Oh his name, I'm
(42:18):
oh James Reamer. There we go, who played the father
in Dexter. Speaking of blood, and we had a stunt
where one of the other actors slices his throat and
so we had a clear tube around Jamee Reamer's neck
and then it was kind of slid open. So then
(42:41):
after the slice happened, then we fed a syringe of
blood through that and then it just started pouring down
his front. So that's fun. And then a second little
baby tangent is I filmed fifty five percent of a
movie up in Pennsylvania in October and November, and for
(43:01):
that scene, I can't or for that piece, I'm not
allowed to give too much away. But we are in
a corn field, me and some of the other actors
and there's a moment where a gun goes off and
then we are all showered in blood. So the first take,
(43:22):
we there's six of us in a row. I'm fifth
in line, and then we had these two fabulous special
effects people with pretty much air cannons pointed at us,
and so the director went all right, and three two
one sprays the first four beautifully drenches them in Quentin
(43:42):
Tarantino level blood me as five and then the other
actress as six. We got a light misting of blood.
So then they were like, we did the scene a
couple of times and they went and cut. Oh that
was awesome. You four head on inside and warm up
up because it was very cold. Victor, you and this
(44:04):
other actress stay here. We're gonna wipe you down and
then we're gonna spray you again. So then the second
time I got completely drenched, and that that's a beautiful
thing to see.
Speaker 2 (44:17):
I've actually had a similar experience.
Speaker 1 (44:22):
In the operating room.
Speaker 3 (44:25):
Now.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
It was in the hospital room.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
Oh m hm.
Speaker 2 (44:30):
I was a medical student and we had a patient
who is actively hemorrhaging, and the residents were all in
and they were squeezing the bags of blood.
Speaker 1 (44:44):
You can squeeze them.
Speaker 2 (44:44):
With your hand if you don't have the compression device
that you can inflate a like a big man bnometer,
but you can just squeeze a bag of blood because
it's flexible. And they squeezed it so hard and I
was doing CPR and the and the bag of blood
exploded and it was being held directly over me, so
(45:07):
that was kind of that was messy.
Speaker 3 (45:12):
Yeah, I bet it did not taste like mint or chocolate.
Speaker 2 (45:15):
It was not mint flavored blood. It wasn't mint flavored blood.
But once I got cleaned up, they had to go
get a pair of scrubs so I could put the
scrubs on. Because you don't want to have even a
medical student in a nice white lab coat leaving a
hospital room covered with blood.
Speaker 3 (45:36):
That's a very good.
Speaker 2 (45:36):
Pop off, putting to patience. So we tried to avoid that.
Speaker 1 (45:42):
Really.
Speaker 2 (45:43):
Yeah, but it was not mint flavored. That would have
made it a lot better maybe.
Speaker 3 (45:47):
But well, speaking of that, I have a lot of
blood stories apparently, but for my Yeah, so for my
creep show episode, I just remembered this little bit. We
are filming into the wee hours of the morning, so
imagine it's two thirty in the morning. The crew are
very tired. We have three days to shoot my episode,
(46:09):
so it's two thirty in the morning. Do either of
you know of a special effects artist named Greg Nicotero?
Speaker 2 (46:19):
Haven't had the pleasure and do not know Greg.
Speaker 3 (46:23):
Well, this gentleman Greg Nicotero. He has been part of
some amazing projects all the way back to I want
to say this right, So I'm looking this up right now.
(46:44):
Which one was the first of the like Dawn of
the Dead, Day of the Dead series, not of a
living Dead, not a living Dead. I think it's a
little bit after that. Anyways, he is Actually.
Speaker 4 (47:00):
It would have been done of the Dead, yeah, Sosa,
no pre dusk, pre dawn, ye, the Noon of the
Dead really living dead?
Speaker 3 (47:14):
Yes, yeah. So he has worked with Tom Savigni, who's
also another special effects legend. He was part of the
Walking Dead makeup department. He is an executive producer. He's
done all sorts of amazing things. He is the executive
producer of Creep Show and the director for my episodes.
(47:36):
So this man who has decades of experience with special effects.
It is two thirty in the morning. We just shot
a scene where I was up to no good and
then he is delighting almost like a six year old
with a toothbrush dipped in the fake blood and then
splattering my face and all down my front, and then
(47:58):
flicking brain and then rearranging, oh, this strand of hair
looks better over here, And then he was the most
awake and alive ironically, just having the time of his life.
Splattering me with blood, and everyone else is so sleepy.
But that was really a treat.
Speaker 1 (48:22):
I'll bet It's always great to work with a legend.
I you know, I'm last week, I'm having lunch with
the greatest photographer in history in South Carolina. He's a legend.
I learned a lot from him. And you know, don't
you don't you agree that whenever you work with a legend,
(48:42):
you really can learn a lot when they're just breathing
and talking.
Speaker 3 (48:47):
Absolutely to the point of Greg Nicotaro. He was having
fun splattering me with blood. But also the other most
fun he had was because my episode title was Skeletons
in the Closet, then we had a couple skeletons do
some things that a skeleton outside of a body would
(49:11):
not normally do. So he was delighting in puppeteering these skeletons.
And he was lying on the ground just as he
did in the beginning of his filmmaking days, just with
a bike handle, bike brake handle, just moving the skeleton's
head back and forth and clattering the jaws, and you
(49:32):
could see his just whole spirit lighten up. It was
and I got to learn a lot from him and
then other special effects people on that set. Amazing.
Speaker 1 (49:44):
That's great.
Speaker 2 (49:45):
Yes, Trey, if you find a job where you're paid
well and you're doing stuff you love doing, then officially you've.
Speaker 3 (49:52):
Won, exactly. And I've been winning for count them, gentlemen,
twenty years because I did ten year as a theater
in North Carolina, and then I'm rounding up on my
ten years doing on camera stuff here in Atlanta, and
I am blessed and thankful and grateful for all my opportunities.
Speaker 2 (50:11):
That's great.
Speaker 1 (50:12):
That is that is wonderful, you know, Victor. It has
been a real pleasure talking to you, learning about you
as a person, learning about you as an actor and
your experiences. And I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna say, can
we have you back in a couple of weeks. I
have enjoyed this so much. That means so much.
Speaker 3 (50:33):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (50:34):
Yeah, you know, And and Trey, if you enjoyed it.
Speaker 2 (50:37):
I know I have any anytime I can talk about
blood and guts, you know, that's always a prime topic
for me.
Speaker 1 (50:46):
That's great. Well, you know, doctor Trey, you have saved
me quite a few times. I'm so glad you're my friend. Victor.
We got We've got a lot to talk about because
I've got maybe an opportunity or two that you might
want to part diticipate in. So it's great when you
meet people and you have something in common and you
can have fun doing it.
Speaker 3 (51:08):
You agree, absolutely, what a pleasure.
Speaker 1 (51:13):
Well, look, thanks so much for being with us tonight
on Scary Cast. You are officially our first broadcast of
the year. Now I don't know exactly when and where
this one will air, but it will be on of course,
iHeart Radio, it will be on Bigfoot radionetwork dot com.
All this fairly soon, but you'll be on there and
(51:36):
we'll let you know, and we'll have you back here
in a couple of weeks because we've got a lot
to talk about. And I can't wait to talk to
you about some of the film things that I'm involved in,
one down in Georgia and one here in Myrtle Beach,
and I might need some of your advice and wisdom
because I'll tell you what, the more I can get,
the better I will proceed in what I'm trying to do.
(51:59):
So and doctor Trev, of course, it's so good having
you here with us as we crank up this new year,
We're gonna have a lot of fun. I've got John
LeMay coming here hopefully next week, talking about his brand
new book, brand new book. It's called Cowboys and Zombies,
(52:20):
and I'm trying to see if I can get Kevin
Holland to The Walking Dead, who played zombie for three years,
to do a little cameo appearance on that. I think
it would be fun. I know I'm acting like a
nineteen fifties comedy show producer, but those guys, look at
Deslie Arns. Those guys were good and they produce things
that we revere today. So the more fun, I believe,
(52:43):
the more fun things you do for people to watch
and listen to, the better off everybody is. Do you agree,
doctor Trey.
Speaker 2 (52:50):
Oh yeah, you're having fun and you can get paid
having fun. That's even better.
Speaker 1 (52:55):
That's exactly right. Well again, doctor Trey, thank you so much.
It's so glad have you back for another year of
scary cast. Victor. It'll be good to have you back here.
In a couple of weeks we will talk more and
just so good to have everybody, and hopefully John I
may next week about Cowboys and Zombies. That's gonna be cool.
(53:15):
And we've got a lot of great guests coming up
on Scary Cast. So I want to thank everyone for
being here with us. Be good, be kind, be careful,
watch you out for this snow, because now I know
this weekend they're gonna have a lot of They're supposed
to have snow four to eight inches up in north
northeast East Georgia, which is gonna be kind of scary.
(53:37):
I might not be going up there because I don't know.
I don't like driving on one lane roads up a
mountain in snow. Now, I just don't know. That's not me.
But I'll probably stay around Myrtle Beach and do some
things to work on some of the projects that I've got.
And Victor will see you again soon. Doctor Trey will
see you again next week. And everybody take care, and
(54:01):
we'll see you on the one the Only Scary Cast.
Good Night, good night, Take care.
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