February 6, 2025 • 58 mins
ScaruCast woth Dr. John inverviews Bigfoot Explorer Mike Familant about his recent trip to Florida!
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Good evening in Live for Myrtle Beach, South Carolina. This
is doctor John Stamy and it's time for Scary cast.
I've got a great guest with me tonight. I've had
him on several times before and he's always a lot
of fun. He's out doing a lot of cool things
as he is exploring, and we're so glad to have him.
(00:24):
Mike Familant from New Jersey. How are you doing tonight, Matt,
Mike Fameilant.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Hey, Doctor Steamy, I'm doing very well. I'm glad to
be here. How are you doing.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
I'm good. I really am just awesome hanging out and
enjoying the beautiful weather and thinking about bigfoot because we
have a couple of bigfoot events coming up well. On
the twenty second and twenty third of March, we have
the Georgia Bigfoot Conference in Demeris, Georgia at Piedmont University.
(00:57):
And on May ninth and tenth, we have the Myrtle
Beast Bigfoot Festival at Sharton four Points in dear old
Sunny Myrtle Beach. So it's gonna be a lot of
fun and I believe you and Jessica Jones are the
keynote speakers for the Myrtle Beast, and we're excited about
having you there.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Yeah, that is. I keep looking at my you know,
and updating my event calendar, and that I see Myrtle
Beach and I'm just so excited. I've never been there,
and it's just going to be such a great event.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
It's going to be beautiful unless it rains. Even when
it rains, it's beautiful. So anyway, we're excited about having
you there. Now, tell us where you've been lately. I
hear a little bigfoot in my ear. Told me that
you were down south in Florida looking around for some
bigfoot in the swamps. Tell us about that.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Yeah, I just got back from It was an eight
eight night, nine day trip down out of the New
Jersey cold got the cold weather down south. We stopped
in Ashville, which is my favorite city in North Carolina.
On the way down and uh down somewhere through Georgia. Uh,
(02:12):
the car broke down. So we had a Yeah, we
had a we had a little hiccup there. So that
uh we got it all fixed. It was very expensive,
but we got it all fixed. That they proceeded to Florida.
We got to three Rivers Florida, and anybody that's familiar
with Three Rivers knows it's right by Terrea and any
bigfoot or knows ter Rea because of Stacy Brown Junior's
(02:34):
footage where he got the Terreya walking or the bigfoot
walking through the pine trees there and in this in
the in the in the trey of state Park. And
we explored that for a while, which is awesome. Met
up with a witness, which was cool. Uh, this is
just a long story, so interject whenever you want if
you have any questions, because I'm just gonna keep going. Uh,
(02:57):
then be We only spent one night there in fortunately
this is a very very quick trip. Unfortunately a lot
of stuff to do. So we then explored some caves.
Does anybody know everybody know Florida has caves?
Speaker 1 (03:12):
I did not know. I did not know that. Tell
us a little bit about those caves. That sounds very interesting.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Yeah, there's sandstone caves that were just eroded over time
over the through the highlands kind of of the state.
It starts in central Florida kind of by Citrus County
and rolls through this state all the way up into
the Panhandle. And this is where we were up in
the Panhandle. It's called Florida Caverns State Park, and it's
some really cool history and you could do a guided
(03:42):
tour through there, and it's really cool if you're ever
in the area. It's just it's I mean caves in Florida.
You can actually like go caving. It's really neat. Another
place you can go caving is what I just spoke about,
Crystal Citrus County, which is where I spend a majority
(04:03):
of my time when I go to Center, when I
go to Florida. It's where my grandmother lives, so obviously
I'm gonna spend a bunch of time there. However, right
outside where she lives is called a large tract of
land called the with Lakuchi Wildlife Management Area, and we
(04:23):
hung out there for a couple of nights, met up
with some really just solid people, and we had some activity.
It was great.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Tell us about now, tell us about your activity. That
is a real interest to me.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Yeah, well, I didn't, you know, It's it's a very
unusual spot to think about a bigfoot being. There's not
a lot of researchers that go there, just because it's
kind of out of the way. But that's why I
like it so much. So it's kind of I wouldn't
say Virgin territory when it comes to bigfoot researching, but
there's certainly not as heavy as a presence of researchers
(05:02):
as one would expect there to be and other areas.
So anyway, we tried to do some just unusual things.
First night, we did some tree knocks and whatever and
got a response back, which is cool. Nothing else happened
that night. But the next night we were we weren't
getting anything, so we decided to do a group howl,
(05:23):
just all of us together, and I think there was
six of us. We all just were like, everybody do
their own just like, ohio, how and let's just try
and see what it sounds like. It's gonna sound crazy,
but let's just try to make it sound crazy. And
it did, and we got a hol back, which was awesome.
I don't know what it was. I still have to
analyze the audio. I have yet to do that since
(05:43):
we're fresh out the car. But everybody, everybody recorded it.
It's recorded on our audios, and you know it's just
something something very intriguing.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Wow, that sounds very interesting. I mean, I hope you'll
come back on and let us hear all that a
little bit later, or maybe you know, share it with
us at the at the Myrtle Beast Bigfoot conference. That
would be very interesting to hear. Do you think we
can do that?
Speaker 2 (06:13):
If it does turn out to be something legitimate and
not another person or something like that or a known animal,
that will definitely make it made again in my presentation
for sure.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Well that's great, that sounds good. So now what else
did you do down there? Because this is all sounding
like a lot of fun. I wish I was there.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
You should have came along, it had been awesome. But yeah,
So after we got that, spent two nights down by
my grandmother, we went to I had a library presentation.
For those of you that don't know, I do library
presentations full time. I speak about Bigfoot full time as
a high as a job, and that pays my way
(06:55):
to camp across the country and film my show. But anyways,
we were filming the show. Next stop we had a
library and Kissing Me, Florida, which is a very cool town.
If anybody's ever been to Kissing Me, shout out very
cool people there. We library presentation went well, we camped
at Lake Kissing Me State Park, which was really cool,
(07:17):
not too squatchy at all. It's in the middle of
the kind of like a little island ish area, a
little peninsula, so it's very not not too squatchy. Next stop,
we did a very special stop. One of my favorite
spots that we stopped at was Kissing Me Prairie State
Park and that is a designated night sky location dark
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sky location, so it's like one of the rules there
when you're camping you can only have red lights on.
You got to turn your headlamps, so you know, no
headlights as your drive in type of thing. It's really
it's it's strict and whatever. But the stars and the
Milky Way Galaxy, it was just something that I mean,
I've never seen anything like it before. It was just
(08:03):
so cool, especially you know from Florida. You wouldn't think
in central Florida you would get a dark sky location,
but it's one of the few in the country.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Well, I've got a real quick question. Can you build it?
Can you build a campfire there?
Speaker 2 (08:17):
There are certain there's one camp site that you are
allowed to build campfires at, and then the main campsite
where you look at the Stars. That's where they say headlights.
You got to like sign off that you're agreeing because
people have these like really powerful telescopes there and they
they're so if you have any white light or any
bright light that hits them, they're going to like destroy
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the thousands of dollars piece of equipment that they got there.
So they're very strict about that.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Yeah. And then from there it was our final stop.
We made it down to the Florida Everglades in a
place I've been to before. We stopped at the Trail
Lakes Campground, which is home of the Skunk Ape headquarters
at Dave Sheeley's property, which is really cool, and we
(09:06):
spent two nights just exploring the Everglades. We got we
got to meet Dusty Crumb, the python hunter that's down
there in Everglades City, and uh, it was just we
Actually the coolest the coolest thing we found down there
is we were doing some research and we found a
deceased alligator, a big gator, and from what I hear,
(09:33):
that's extremely where rare to find. Uh, So you know,
I had to we had to stop all operations and
we had to call the f WC because those things
are protected. If you find a dead gator, you got
to report it and stuff like that. So we did
that and that was cool. Though I've I've met people,
I've I've talked to people that are like, I've been
in the woods in Florida my whole life and I've
(09:54):
never come across the dead gator. So it's kind of
kind of ironic that I did, but really cool, cool stuff.
It's a it's an awesome area. The panthers. You got
to really watch out for the Florida Panthers down there.
It's a thing.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Well that sounds like a lot of fun. Now, how
with assuming you didn't have a breakdown, about how many
hours drive would that be from New Jersey down to
Florida County.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Let's say, yeah, about seventeen seventeen and a half to
get the central Florida from from northern New Jersey.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Lord have mercy. That's that's a long way.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
It is. It's in the name Squatch and Grandma, so
there's always there's always that, So it's it always works
out in the end. And you know, it was like
eighty four down there, and it was like twenty four
in New Jersey, so kind of worth it.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Yeah, I'll bet it was. I bet it was beautiful
and warm, and was it humid as well?
Speaker 2 (10:56):
It was? Oh, it was great. We Actually I did
something that I've never done before. I did an air
boat tour, which is cool. I found out that I
am still petrified of water, so that's good.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Okay, Yeah, you don't You're You're definitely going squatching in
some areas that I don't normally go. I'm normally in
the uh Mountains of northeast Georgia, and sometimes I get
really lucky. Sometimes I don't, you know, the you know,
the drill. Sometimes it happens, sometimes it doesn't.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Most of the time it doesn't, you know. And that's
the unfortunate part about bigfooting. I always I One of
the things people always ask me all the time is like, uh,
do you take people out looking for bigfoot with you?
And I used to. But one of my things is,
(11:53):
you know, obviously that costs me money, so it's gonna
cost them money. But I don't like to charge somebody
and say, oh, you know, and not have the potential
for something to happen, you know, and give their hopes up.
You know. It's just you can explain to somebody until
you're blue in the face that you know it doesn't
happen every time, But when nothing does happen and the
(12:16):
kids leave that expedition and they're kind of like sad,
it's like, oh, man, I you know that kind of
like that's one of the reasons why I don't take
people out generally.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Well, let me ask you something. About about four months ago,
went to northeast Georgia to one of my favorite locations
with a good friend, and we had a bunch of
tree knocks, a bunch of back and forth with what
I believe we're bigfoots now. It was warm that day,
(12:46):
it was probably in the upper seventies. Now, the last
time we were there, which was about a month ago,
it was cold. Do you find that warmer weather generates
more action in the forest or wherever you are than
colder weather?
Speaker 2 (13:06):
No, no, not at all. It's it's weird. I don't
like the cold. If you didn't if from anything from
this podcast, if you didn't gather anything else, you can
gather that I'm not a fan of the cold. Being
from New Jersey, that poses a semi little bit of
a problem when it comes to bigfooting in winter. So
(13:30):
I do go out. I do day hikes up here
in the wintertime and night hikes. I don't camp because
that's not fun, and I do get activity. So it
means the sasquatch does is out during the winter. A
lot of people ask do they hibernate? Do I don't
think so. Wouldn't make sense that they hibernate. They're too big.
(13:51):
They are just like like bear bear in New Jersey
and North America generally don't hibernate. They just go into
a state of toper, which is a deep sleep, and
they still come out. That's why we find black bear
footprints in those snow and stuff like that. So we
find big foot footprints in the snow. So I think
that it. You know, if you don't, it doesn't matter
(14:12):
if it's cold or warm. I think it depends. The
more of the location you're in means the best.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Okay, So about four months ago we just got lucky
and we just had some interaction, some serious interaction. And
then a month ago we just didn't have any interaction.
We were just unlucky in terms of action.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Sure, what do you like? What's a good percentage number?
Mister Stamy. Do you think that.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
You get activity about half the time that's hot.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Yeah, that's a high number. I think when I go out,
I'm like one in one in like eight, one in ten,
give or take, which I think is fairly decent for
you know, for that bigfoot researcher.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Well, okay, here here's what I think. I think they
know me in Northeast Georgia. I think they know when
I'm there. I've been there a lot. They know that
I run the Georgia Bigfoot Conference. They know that I'm
a fan. I don't care how crazy this sounds, but
this is what I believe, and I believe they like
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what I do. So I think I get a lot
of action. And you know, I mean, what do you think,
do you do you believe like I do, that the
Bigfoot really they know who you are and they know
if they want to play, so to speak. Yeah, that's
(15:48):
what I believe.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
I'll go with that. I think I think you set off.
Whether it be they get to know you over time
like you're suggesting, I think that's definitely a thing. They
get to know the people in the personalities of the
people for sure, or it could be a one off thing.
Where you just kind of set off a vibe about
you and they could pick up on that. A lot
of animals can do that, and like your pets can
(16:11):
do that and stuff like that. They know when you're
sad and stuff like that. And I think that's like
when I go into the woods. I don't know if
it means anything, but sometimes what we'll do it we
did this in Florida. We'll get around in the circle
and just say, hey, you know, let's just set off
as best of vibes as we possibly can and see
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if that does anything different than if we didn't. And
there's no way to test that, but it's always cool
to think it works.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Do you Okay, I'm gonna get really, really, really down
and dirty with the questions. Do you mentally talk to
them or do you verbally talk to them? You know,
when you're out there? I mean, what do you do?
I know that I mentally talk to I do both,
and I think they they can censor, they can pick
(17:03):
up every I think Bigfoot's far smarter than we are
and far more claravoyant than we are. That's what I believe.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Yeah, I I mean I I I agree that they're
they're highly intelligent creatures. I don't I when I I
don't verbally speak to them. Besides, like when I do
a big foot call or something like that. But when
I when I, when I mentally speak, I guess, if
you will, it's it's not it's more of a vibe thing.
I'm not saying, hey, bigfoot, let's have this. You know,
(17:33):
I'm gonna come out and find you. I hope you're well.
I guess I do do that kind of So I
guess I am speaking to a bigfoot if you will, Yeah,
I guess it's and I guess it's the intent. Just
with the intent that you put out that you're vibing
with it. It is And again, like like I said,
it's not gonna hurt anything to to to put that
extra good, good vibes out there.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Well, I think they they can feel that, Yeah, because
I think, as I said, they are totally clarivoyant, and
I believe they are interdimensional. And I believe that when
they don't want to be seen, they're in another They're
in another dimension, not one that is necessarily friendly toward
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us physically. I think, you know, and I've heard a
variety of stories about people coming back with terrible health
problems from going into other dimensions. And I don't want
to do that. I mean, I I'm sorry. I like
I like the earth. I like my little dimension here
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in my little place, and you know, it's just a
little too scary for me. I don't want to get sick.
But I know I have known many researchers who have
gotten sick and have died. I can think of five
right now, no names, but I can think of five
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that have passed away. We're very active researchers going out
in the woods experiencing things. I don't know. I just
I think it can be hazardous to your health. Is
that is that something that you have come across. This
is not a weird line of questioning, but it's it's
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something I think that we need to talk about a
little bit more.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Here's Here's where. And this is why I love coming
on this show is because you, you and I share
a lot of things in common, but we disagree when
it comes to what we believe their philosophies about what
Bigfoot truly is. I'm of the flesh and blood philosophy.
You're of the interdimensional philosophy, and I love that it's cool.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Or I will I will correct you. I am flesh
and blood and interdimensional because I think I think they
can be as flesh and blood as you and I are.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Yeah, okay, and and.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Then they can just it's like watching an episode of Bewitched.
They can snap their fingers and they can go inter dimensional,
they can disappear. So I believe they are both. I
guess I want to be clear on that.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Yeah, that's that's fair. I stand correct. Good, thank you
for interjecting that. But I think with that being said, though,
I think there's we can share. We share the parallel,
there's some parallels that we can gain from that. Right,
So when you say people people getting sick and passing away,
(20:33):
I can parallel. I mean, I've not known anybody researching
that's that. The only the recent people unfortunately in Colorado
that that succumbed to the elements when they were out bigfooting. Uh.
The the uh I've gotten mentally, and I'm gonna say
zapped because that's the only way that you could describe it,
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uh is by like infrasound of bigfoot. And I think
Bigfoot does have this capa ability of infrasound and when
you know that can really affect a person in some
physical ways.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Okay, now, now, now I'm gonna stop you and say,
for those people who do not know what infrasound is,
since you came up, since you brought up the term, first,
explain that. Please for the folks that don't know what
that means.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Okay, sure, infrasound is a sound that we as people
cannot hear, but we can feel. It's lower than our
our hearing range, so it's like a it's like the
low rumble of a freight train coming through. But you
we we can feel it more in our bodies and
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it gives off it it It appears different ways in
different people. For me, when I had my experience, I
was walking down this trail that I I mean, John,
I could have I did. I could have done it
with my eyes closed, upside down and backwards. That's how
many times I've done this this trail right and I
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got about a quarter mile down and I got it
felt like I hit a brick wall, like like I
could not go any further. Something told me that you're
not you shouldn't be here right now. I guess to stop.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Something said stop right exactly.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
I looked up. I saw a tree break that was
not there the week prior. Because it was right over
the path. I would have noticed that thing any day
of the week. And uh, John, it was the only
the only hike that I've I've not finished in my
entire life. So that right there says I think that
Bigfoot does have this capability, and I think, no, no
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known animals in North America can do this besides what
we think Bigfoot is and has this capability. So do
I do I do I think interdimensional? No? But do
I think that there's parallels between the two, Absolutely for sure?
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Right well, I mean I think, if I can just
ramble a bit, I think Bigfoot knows what Bigfoot's doing
and it's playing with us. He is he and she
are playing with us a little bit because they have
the upper hand. They know what they're doing. They are
not in my opinion. They can do whatever they want
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to do. And it's like, Okay, I had a wonderful experience.
Have you ever heard a squatch.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Man squatchmn uh greg Yan, Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
His son Eugene came down to North Georgia to go
squatching with me, and uh, I took him to a
place that I knew there was a lot of activity.
Don't want I will not divulge. There are two places
that I know, and it's not War Woman Road. You
can go to war War Road. All you want is
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just nothing there. Oh there's just the weird stuff whatever.
But anyway, so we're there. We see all the signs
of Bigfoot. We see the tree structures, we see the
x's along the paths, we see it up, we see
it on the ground. And I explained to him what
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I understand those to mean, and he said, yeah, that's
what I really think, and so we it was just,
you know, it's like they have a language. It's like,
have you ever seen go Beckley Tech? Okay, go Beckley Teppy?
Is that magnificent site fourteen thousand years old in eastern Turkey? Okay?
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Have you ever heard of it?
Speaker 2 (24:48):
No?
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Okay, go Beckley Teppy. I mean I watched the I
watched the Fi Files. I don't care what anybody says.
I think Andrew Gentile is just a smart, smart guy,
and I love the materiality does and it seems to
be fairly accurate now, it really does. So they explain
the current thought of what the hieroglyphs or hieroglyphics, whichever
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one you want to say, mean. And that's the same
thing as these messages that you get, and if you
can get my book Introduction to Horminology, I have about
twelve pages of those pictures and they're they're all from
Raven County, Georgia. God knows it's all. They're all over there.
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They're not where all those people are looking for them.
And I'm glad they know that the Bigfoot know how
to stay away. And it's amazing. The messages that they
send with their tree structures are identical to the messages
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that ancient civilizations seem to end with their hieroglyphs that
they have carved so carefully on stones. I mean, it's
a language. In fact. In my book Introduction Nomenology is
co authored by doctor igor Bertsev, who is the leading
Bigfoot researcher in the world. God, I love him. He
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is one of the coolest men I've ever met. And
that's what he told me one time, and I didn't
know what he meant. Then I started studying it. Go
out in the woods, I see bows of trees pulled
over in a semicircle, and you know what that I mean,
I know what I think it means. It's just not
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anything that's natural. So the Bigfoot have a language that
they use to try to communicate with us, and they
are so intelligent. I mean, you know, if they're not
going to be talking to you, you know, at least
they'll do some tree structures that will that you know
what you should and should not do. They have a
do not go which is a cross or an X
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like to too Freese in a in an X that's
up to say don't go here. But if it's on
the ground, yeah, come on, keep walking, and that's okay.
So it's like the Bigfoot have a language. The language
is no different than what we found in ancient ancient sites,
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you know, of humans, And it's just it's just really
interesting the whole culture. And I think a lot of
people I hope, I hope after I'm gone that people
love my book Introduction into Hominology. I think it's a
it's a pretty big advance because I did a lot
of research. I talked to a lot of people, and
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if you look at Bigfoot is simply an intelligent race,
it makes it makes a lot of stuff seem reasonable
and that's that's what I think. And I just think
it's it's beautiful culture. I mean, they've got good ones
and they've got bad ones. Well, you know whatever, we
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got good and bad people, sure, but there are a
lot of good ones. And it's just I'm sorry, I'll
I have waxed poetically here for six minutes, and I'm sorry.
I just but I just love talking about it because
I've experienced it and I've seen things that I've had experiences.
Even to my last experience four four months ago, it
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was just astonishing, and I knew that I was in
the magic of nature. And when you've done some of
the things that you have done and you've had results,
don't you feel like you're experiencing the magic of nature?
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Well, you know, it's it's it's true. It is it's
it's a it's a it's a very unique and magical experience.
Like you said, to have something that may that shouldn't
exist by all means, communicate and that's that's cool. That
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is a cool thing. You know. It's like you know,
I said, like one in ten times or so, I
get activity, and by about time like eight or eight
or nine, I'm kind of like, man, I don't know
if I want to do this anymore. This is getting
kind of boring, you know. And then it'll be you
know that that next time or whatever, or that night
(29:39):
of course, i'll get that one reply back, the tree
knock or the vocalization'll be like, oh, that's exactly why
I'm doing it. Okay, here we you know, and reneuse
your energy.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
You know what's funny. I do get mental images sent
to me by a variety of entities, and I just
got one of a place that I need to take
you in Raven County.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Mm hm okay.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
And I believe I believe that that was a pictorial
shots sent to my head to say, take Mike over here.
You've been here before. We'll see what happens. But I
honestly just got one, and it was unmistakable. It's not
(30:26):
a place, it's not anything that I think of hardly
at all, but I kind of got an idea of
where we are well ought to go. And so yeah,
I'm not gonna I'm here's the double negative. I'm not
gonna not listen. I'm gonna listen. You know, I'm gonna
listen to these because I have these episodes all the
(30:47):
time and people look at me like, Damn, you're crazy, son.
Yeah I am, But I listen. I know to listen.
I know to listen to the vibes, and I know
to listen to the end or or or pay attention
to the images that I see in my head. And
I'm sure that you know how to. I'm sure you
have communications occasionally the same ways. Don't. I'm gonna be
(31:11):
very presumptuous and I'm gonna say I bet you have
a few of those two.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
I do, absolutely, I think everybody does. When you have
those feelings, it's kind of like it was just, uh,
the the unmistakable. Okay, that was a sign that you know,
like like deja vu. Everybody you know, you can't explain
it happens, but it's just it's just that kind of
thing that that happens. And I think that you're you
(31:37):
just got that feeling I kind of was when I
was telling that story, I kind of got was like,
I don't know, I got this feeling that I don't know,
we should go out, and you got this feeling that
we should go out too.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
But I've got a specific location in Raven County and
I love Raven County death. I'm gonna go ahead and
announce it one of these days here, within three or
four years, I'm moving to County because I have I
have Bigfoot friends there, and I think they'd like to
have me there because they know I'll promote them. They
know I'll continue having the Georgia Bigfoot Conference, and I'll
(32:11):
you know, because I'm not a believer, I'm an experiencer.
There's a difference between believing and experiencing. I mean, I've
seen it. God, I've seen them, and you know, it's
the weird, it's it's it's a fun thing. It doesn't
it doesn't bother me. I mean weird ghost things by
(32:34):
you know, if I if I go to the Waverley
Sanatorium and I and I feel, you know, the Waverley Sanatorum,
it's a big ol'd haunted place. If I go there
and I hear I have one of these coldness experiences,
I don't like it. But I never seem to have
bad experiences when Bigfoot's around. I don't know. I get
I'm hoping Bigfoot likes me. I think, you know, I
(32:57):
promote them. I know I do, so you know, it's
fun and when I got that image, and I'll tell
you about it in the green room after we're off.
I mean, I will tell you exactly where I was
told for us to go. And it's just so crazy.
It's not a location I go very often that probably
haven't been there three times in my life. But I
(33:19):
was told to go there and so and I know
they'll be there. I trust, I do, trust you know
what I trust Bigfoot. I'm going to tell you an
amazing fact. Are you ready for a Ripley's believe it
or not?
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Fat, Yes, sir.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
The Bigfoot conference and festival business in the United States
of America is almost a two and a half billion
dollar industry. Did you know that there are so many festivals?
You know, when you look at all the festivals that
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we have and all the commerce that people do at
the festivals, That's what I mean. In other words, in
the name of Bigfoot, people are having conferences, they're having festivals,
all kinds of crazy stuff, and it's a huge industry.
And I just think it's so much fun that it is.
I think Bigfoot's fun. Just be careful, you know, there
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might be a bad one or two, but there are
a lot of them are that are really good.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Have you ever when you've been out in the woods,
have you ever experienced the infra sound.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
I had. I don't have to go out in the woods, Okay,
I don't. Okay, here's an example. I was at a
friend's airbnb. He has a cabin about one hundred and
fifty feet from his house, and I had a major
(34:58):
experience that night around midnight and the next morning, I
waited until seven, until the sun was up. The birds
were singing. I you know, I just wasn't gonna go out.
I just wasn't. So I went down to his house
and he had at the time three dogs. They loved me.
(35:18):
I mean, you know, dogs apparently like me. I'm head
dogs like me. So, and he had one named Sarge
that Serge has passed away. But Serge. What happened was
I walked because he always kept the door open. He said, well, listen, John,
if it's Bigfoot, Bigfoot's going to get in here anyway,
(35:39):
and nobody else is going to come up here. I said, okay,
that makes sense. So he said, we never locked the door.
So I walked in the door. I was going to
go upstairs and go use the restroom. It was seven
in the morning, and I saw Sarge the dog and
one or other of the three dogs. They came out
(36:00):
of the bedroom where my host couple was sleeping, and
they looked like they had been hit on the head. Wow,
they were drunk, hurt being hit on the head, and
I knew something that happened. I knew something had happened.
(36:22):
It was scary. I mean, I'd had a I'd had
a real scary experience. And it's in my book. It's
in the book Introduction to Horminology. I won't go into
it because I think you need to read it. I'll
get you a copy when you come down here for
because I don't think you have a I'll get your
copy of it for sure when you when when you
(36:44):
and you can read that story. It's called Terror in
North Georgia. And it was terrifying. But I could tell
that they had been subject to something very very strange,
something and they had experienced something. Now I never have
(37:04):
I I don't really have those problems. I don't because
I'm just I'm just always I've always been well, you know,
I just I'm one of those guys. I never got COVID.
I you know, I've always been pretty good shape, and
I just that's just part of my makeup. But I've
seen I know the dogs had been through something, and
(37:28):
I can imagine it was something like this. They were,
you know, dogs at seven o'clock in the morning are
not staggering around now, they're not. And they looked like
they'd been drug hit on the head or whatever. And
I knew deep in my heart something had happened. Yeah,
So that's what I'll say. I've never experienced it. I've
(37:49):
always been of sound mind, sound body. Maybe a couple
of drinks, but I've always been of sound mind and
soundbody when it comes to the Bigfoot exp speriences, especially
four months ago when I was out there in the
mountains of North Georgia in a cemetery and they started
(38:11):
communicating it was it was beautiful. I mean, I'll never
I'll never forget that it's going. It's going in the
next version of introduction to Horminology, because I want everybody
to know what we experienced that day. It was just
it was magic. It's magical. It's earth magic. To quote
(38:32):
my friend Dan Shaw, I think Bigfoot is part of
the magic of the Earth. So that's just me. It's
my opinion, and I'm buddy, I'm sticking to it. It's
part of the magic of the earth. Make friends with him,
let them know that you care and you believe in them.
And you know what, I believe. Okay, I'm not going
(38:55):
to double say I believe, but I think if you
let them know you believe in them, then they will
believe in you period.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
I like that.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
I think they will. They know that they're a psychic.
As the day is long come on, they know what's
going on, and I think they can evaporate. I don't
think they're going to have a problem with the great
when the next great flood comes, because we're going to
have one. Don't know when it's going to be. Might
be in twenty five hundred, it might be in twenty fifty,
(39:31):
it might be in twenty thirty. We're going to have
another great flood. We tend to have them every once
in a while. I think the evidence is mounting. I mean,
we've got a pull shift coming. Some people say it
won't mean anything, some people say it will be devastating.
I think it might be somewhere in between. And I
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know one thing, I'm glad I'm not on the West Coast,
and I've canceled all West Coast trips because I think
it's too scary of there. They have a huge fault
line from northern California all the way up to Alaska.
I mean, I am terrified of the West Coast. I
don't want to be there when pardon my grammar, the
ship hits the fan, I believe it will. I think
(40:14):
that's the next great disaster. So I'm just not going.
But I'll stay in Georgia and South Carolina. I just
you know what, I like myrtle beats, and I like
the mountains of North Georgia. So I'm just gonna stay
where I like. I'll go to Illinois, I'll go up
north to Maine. That's fine, but I'm staying away from
(40:37):
the West coast. West Coast scares me because of what
truly is brewing there geologically and use all you have
to do research. Okay, I'll shut up. You're you're the guest,
you know what, Mike, I gotta say that when i'm
when I have you on the show, I feel comfortable
talking because I don't really do this. I do it
(40:59):
when I have Jessica Jone here, but you made you
made me feel comfortable. You what made me feel like, well,
it's okay John for you to run your out.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
Well, no, I think that's that's important because a lot
of times, you know, you listen to some some podcasts
and stuff like that, and it's just like the the
same the same questions the you know, over and over
from the host, and it's it's nice to hear your
your your things, and your your philosophies and your thoughts.
It's you know, it's refreshing, it's and it's refreshing to me.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
Because I've had enough experiences. You've had them, I've had them.
You know, it's fun to talk about them, but I
really don't verbalize them that much. Now I am. I
am going to have one assistant at the Georgia Bigfoot
Conference and I am going to talk thirty minutes and
(41:49):
I'm just gonna get up and I'm gonna do string
of consciousness talking about the grand things that I that
have occurred to me. I'll do my Georgia experiences. Just
you know, I love I don't know why I happened
to like Georgia, but I just do. Let me ask
you this, what what area of the country. Do you
(42:10):
really really like you ever you ever been asked that question?
Speaker 2 (42:15):
Yeah? Yeah, uh, and it's it's it's I think about
it a lot. I like Asheville, North Carolina. That's probably
my favorite city, if I if I could pick a city,
if I could pick a location, Uh yeah, I'm I'm
saying kind of northeast South Carolina. It's a nice, nice area.
(42:40):
It's you know, you drove when I drove through North
Georgia too, Like you got Tallula Falls? You got that
area is gorgeous.
Speaker 1 (42:49):
Oh my god, do you have Tallula Falls? That is
one of my favorite places on God's Green Earth?
Speaker 2 (42:55):
Yeah. Got Helen is up that way, correct.
Speaker 1 (42:58):
Yeah, Helen is about Helen Naughty, it's about It's twenty
four miles from Tullula Falls. I must it must be
because I like it and I know exactly how to
get to Helen. I love it. I mean, I just
there's something about Georgia that resonates with me. And you
know what, I think a lot of it is the people.
The people love this stuff nice, right, and they're they're
(43:23):
not It's not like going to I'm not gonna say, Okay,
it's not like going to Virginia. There are pockets in
Virginia where people love this stuff. But I think in
Georgia they are flat out enamored with bigfoot, UFOs and ghosts.
Is just all over and I was just thinking about it.
I just I just love Georgia. It's just it's just
(43:43):
like home, you know. And I call people in Georgia
every day because I guess I couldn't like it, you know,
so that everybody knows I'm in love with Georgia.
Speaker 2 (43:53):
I love the southern girl accent. You got the southern
twang accent going on down there. That's I'm such a
fan of that. That's that's all right by me.
Speaker 1 (44:04):
Yeah, I guess because I got Georgia on my mind.
I gotta, I gotta, I gotta do Ray Charles, I
got Georgia on my mind, and that's the most important thing.
And then gladys Night Midnight Train to Georgia. Those are
two of my favorite songs. I love them, and Georgia
is just the best. And that's why I always love
to do the the Georgia Bigfoot Conference. I mean, we're
(44:27):
gonna be at Piedmont University, beautiful place. They have been
so accommodating. They've been so nice about doing all this,
and I'm hoping we can have a couple more conferences
because the people are nice, the venue is beautiful, and
it's in north North, North Atlanta. It is the outskirts
(44:48):
of Atlanta. But we finally made it to Atlanta. Georgia,
you know, the Bell, the Bell of the South. And
I just loved at Atlanta. I had so many great
experiences there. I was a sale, was rip and I
covered Georgia and it was just it was just lovely, lovely, lovely.
So I mean, I can't I can't wait, and I'm glad. Okay,
(45:09):
I have to shut up because you're our guests and listen,
you've got great experiences, and so tell us. Okay, we
got to do this. You've got to tell us two
really good experiences on your trip down south this past
(45:31):
couple of weeks. Pick them and tell them.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
Two great experiences. Okay, let's see. Uh the meeting I
met up with, I don't know what do you mean?
We didn't get meant much. Watch experiences. That's it. That's
the only thing. So I don't want to make.
Speaker 1 (45:47):
Up, no, no, no, but just you know, experiences, the
people that you.
Speaker 2 (45:51):
Hung out with, gotcha.
Speaker 1 (45:52):
Okay, you know what, whatever was good about your trip
to Georgia, not George, I'm sorry your what was good
about your trip to Florida tell us.
Speaker 2 (46:02):
Joe, Yeah, it's it was a reunion trip for me.
It was the people that I've met that really made
the trip. I went down with my manager Jill, and
we met up with my good friend I met two
years ago, Stevie. He lives down there, and he brought
his creature research creature Man research team out with him,
(46:23):
Jesse and Carol, and we met up with Lisa from
Lisa's Escapades and just really great people. And then of
course my good friend Jimmy. He's the one that was
with me when I first got into big footing, when
I first got rocks thrown at me in North Florida.
He was the guy that was with me and threw
the rock back at it. So I got to meet
up with my good friend. I've been friends with him
(46:45):
for probably fifteen years, so it was good. If you
didn't know, I used to live in Florida, I lived
in Tampa. I was an EMT down there, so going
back down there it was always good. I got lunch
in Tampa, which is really cool to see some old,
some old parts of the city that I haven't seen
in years. So I think that that was an experience.
(47:06):
And the second experience, I think was just like I
was kind of saying, that dark sky having just being
surrounded by you know, one hundred and eighty degrees of
nothing but the planets. They had that planet align event
going on. We saw that, and I think the Train
(47:28):
of the Planets they called it, and then just all
the stars and the galax in the Milky Way is
just so phenomenal. And to me, it's not about finding
a bigfoot. That's That's not what bigfooting is all about.
It's about the journey to get there. And and I hope,
I hope everybody you know takes that the heart tonight
when they go I'm going to.
Speaker 1 (47:48):
Stop you right there and say, you're one hundred and
one percent right. It's about the journey, the people you meet,
and the experiences you have. That's what it's all about,
isn't it.
Speaker 2 (48:01):
That's it so much fun.
Speaker 1 (48:06):
I can't wait to go back to I can't wait
to go back to Raven County. I'll never forget the
first time I drove over there. It was the most
paranormal experience I've ever had. I am in my car
driving on the Sumpter Parkway or whatever they call it is,
you know, part of that part of the road that
(48:28):
goes over from Westminster to what you call it to Clayton,
and I felt something squeeze me all over.
Speaker 2 (48:42):
Oh as you're driving, yes, oh wow.
Speaker 1 (48:46):
And I didn't know. I was just and then I realized,
don't be scared. Maybe Bigfoot's glads you're coming. And I
believe it was. I mean, I felt have you ever
had your arms squeezed?
Speaker 2 (49:02):
I know, yeah, yeah, like blood pressure type thing just squeezed.
Oh yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (49:08):
Well I felt my entire chest, my arms, and my
legs being squeezed. It's like somebody was hugging me.
Speaker 2 (49:17):
Oh wow.
Speaker 1 (49:18):
And I mean I was like god Lee, and I knew.
I just knew it was a Bigfoot experience. I couldn't.
I couldn't, I couldn't deny it. I knew what it was.
But you know, I mean, so I've just had you know,
I think we have a lot of Bigfoot experiences that
we might not necessarily recognize what we need to enjoy.
(49:40):
So yeah, so you you what you loved about the
trip was the night sky and watching all those great
things in the Celestial Ballet and also seeing your friends. Yeah,
and that was great, and I mean wish i'd been
there for it.
Speaker 2 (49:58):
H we go every year. You're more than a welcome
next year to tag along.
Speaker 1 (50:04):
Well, now, just let let me give me a little
leave time and I might just do that. I mean,
I'd love to go down there. I mean it's just
Florida is kind of a neat place.
Speaker 2 (50:14):
Open invite.
Speaker 1 (50:16):
Okay, good, Well, just just remind me a couple of
months in advance. Yeah, and I'll and I'll see if
I can schedule it, because you know, it's just it's
just fun. I just like I like going out on
these paranormal trips because I meet a lot of good
people and yeah, we have fun. Uh yeah, I've just
(50:37):
had so many good experiences. That's why I keep doing it.
Speaker 2 (50:41):
That's another that's another. That's another experience that that I had.
And that's that when you when you just mentioned too
and and something that people you take a lot for grant,
but that's having a good time. There's a lot of
there's a lot of you know, I've been with investigators
and researchers that go out and are super strict and
(51:02):
really like, you know, you have to keep your your
headlamp on your wrist and it has to be read
at all times and no talking, and you know you
have to hop, skip and jump through the woods to
find a bigfoot. And to me, I don't find that fun.
And that's what I want to do is have fun.
That's what life is all about, is enjoying it and
(51:23):
having a good time. So uh, that's why, like when
I go out and investigate, I'm not like that. I'm
kind of the opposite of that. I'm kind of like, hey,
you want to try something, let's try and see if
it works. You know who's who. There's no rule book
on bigfooting. So that's that's another thing. It was. It
was just a really fun, fun trip.
Speaker 1 (51:45):
I agree with you, and just just go out there,
keep doing it and just know that you're being watched.
Just know that you're being watched, and one day they'll
say hello. I guarantee that is again, that is doctor
John's guarantee. One day they'll say hello. And it's just
(52:06):
a lot of fun. So now where are you headed next?
You've got many, many adventures before you get down to
Myrtle Beach.
Speaker 2 (52:14):
Yeah. I next, let's see. The next adventure I have
is ah, here we go. We're going to Kentucky, Campbell County,
which is a far northernmost county in Kentucky. And then
we are from there, we are going to Nashville. Baby.
(52:36):
We got a couple of libraries in the Nashville area,
so I've never got to explore the city. I love
the whole country vibe, so I'm gonna go explore it
for a couple of nights and see what it has
to offer. So that's where I'll be next.
Speaker 1 (52:49):
Oh. I love Nashville. It's just one of my favorite
places in the world. So yeah, I hope you have
a great time there. Let me know when you're there.
I'll send some very positive vibes. I love Kentucky. Kentucky's
one of my favorite places. It starts off with a
(53:10):
little town called Corbin, Kentucky. Do you know why I
love Corbin, Kentucky?
Speaker 2 (53:18):
Why does that sound so familiar?
Speaker 1 (53:21):
In my opinion, it is one of the most famous
restaurant towns in the world. Colonel Harlan Sanders Corbin Kentucky.
And that's where Kentucky Fried Chicken number one is and
they make it different. If you go to any Kentucky
Fried Chicken owned by Pepsi Cola, it's all different. But god,
(53:45):
it is so good there. They put it in these
glass cases, they let it steam. Is just oh my god,
it's the best stuff in the world. And I mean,
I had just eaten lunch and I stopped there. I said,
oh my god, this is the original. And it didn't
matter to me. I spent twelve dollars and I ate
and I ate me another. The potatoes were the potatoes
(54:07):
were fresh. It was awesome. So, I mean, I just
love Corbin Kentucky, and I have a got better.
Speaker 2 (54:14):
I said. This podcast was sponsored by KFC.
Speaker 1 (54:18):
Is that belg thing? You're looking good? Dog? I love it.
It's just great. Now, I'm not a fan of down
down the road here five miles and make a left
in Carolina Forest that now I'm not. I'm not a
fan of that one. But I'm a fan of number
one Corbin Kentucky. It's great. And they've got a location
that I'm looking at in one of these days because
(54:40):
that's near London, Kentucky. That's near the Daniel Boone National Forest,
which are you familiar with that?
Speaker 2 (54:49):
I love the Daniel Boone. It's huge inside that they
got the Red River Gorge, which is one of my
favorite areas. Yes, very cool area.
Speaker 1 (54:56):
Corban's right outside there, and I want to go there,
and I want to take a group of people and
us go camp and build a campfire and say Bigfoot.
Speaker 2 (55:05):
Come, oh count me in.
Speaker 1 (55:08):
Okay, good, I will do in fact okay, well good,
Well then I guess you want to be the keynote
speaker for the corn Kentucky Big for Conference. Yes, you got,
you got the gig. You may take me two years,
but we are going to Corbin, Kentucky. Because I love it.
I love it. I love it. It's it's just it's
just great.
Speaker 2 (55:28):
Let KFC know they're gonna need some more chicken.
Speaker 1 (55:31):
Oh that they will. They will make it. And they
have a museum.
Speaker 2 (55:35):
Oh that's cool.
Speaker 1 (55:36):
It's just so it's just so perfect. It's like it's
like Mayberry on steroids. You know, It's like and I
wouldn't and I'll just restate this. I wouldn't have these
experiences if I wasn't out researching the paranormal would you.
Speaker 2 (55:52):
No, Nope, nope. I came across and I'm in people
may or may not believe this, And it's totally okay
if you don't up in the Catskill Mountains. It's a
it's a little town called kirk Hunks and kirk Honks
and or something like that. And I swear to you
we came across the world's third largest garden gnome and
(56:16):
the thing is big. I'm not gonna lie that. Things
like three stories tall.
Speaker 1 (56:22):
Did you take a picture of it?
Speaker 2 (56:24):
Oh? Yeah, Oh, we we filmed in front of it.
We got pictures. I mean, you're not gonna you're not
gonna take that and not not gonna have tourist touristy
photo in front of that thing.
Speaker 1 (56:34):
Okay, send send me one. I gotta I gotta see
if that's great, you know, and and uh and there's
uh And when you come down here, I'm gonna take
you one too. One of the most frightening places you've
ever been.
Speaker 2 (56:48):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (56:49):
I'm a big Civil War fan. Oh nice, the history
of it, and we have one of the most frightening
Civil War parks in America and it's just scary. Okay,
So I'll take you there. I'm not going to tell
everybody where. We got to keep We've got to be
careful about these things. But you know, if you really
want to come to the Myrtle Beast Bigfoot Conference, and
(57:12):
we'll come. We'll go there on Sunday. It'll be fun. Well,
Mike Famelon, as usual, you have met and exceeded all expectations.
I have had the most fun.
Speaker 2 (57:24):
I just I can't believe it's been an hour. This
is this is you know, every time it doesn't, it
goes so quick.
Speaker 1 (57:31):
Right, and uh so we'll and I'll do that. I'll
do the quick call after the show. Got to make
sure you're gonna come back.
Speaker 2 (57:42):
Worry about that one.
Speaker 1 (57:43):
It's been fun and thanks a lot, and thanks to
everybody listening to Scary Cast because we love what we do,
and I think that's what's important. We we've got a cast.
The real cast is coming up. We've had you, we
got Jessica Jones coming up. We've got George Lunsford and
his bunch, North Carolina Investigates. They're gonna be at Georgia
(58:05):
Bigfoot Conference. We're gonna have Matt delfback, We're gonna have
Sonia Thompson of Walking Dead, you know, most famous lady
zombie of all time. She's on the cover of Time magazine.
She's but she's such a sweet lady. I love her
to death, and I met her through all this wonderful
(58:26):
paranormal stuff. So I've just been I've been blessed to
be involved in it. So first of all, Mike, thank
you so much. We want you back, Thank you to
everybody who's been listening, and we'll be back sooner than
later on the One and Only Scary Cast. Bye Mike.
Speaker 2 (58:46):
Yeah,
Good evening in Live for Myrtle Beach, South Carolina. This
is doctor John Stamy and it's time for Scary cast.
I've got a great guest with me tonight. I've had
him on several times before and he's always a lot
of fun. He's out doing a lot of cool things
as he is exploring, and we're so glad to have him.
(00:24):
Mike Familant from New Jersey. How are you doing tonight, Matt,
Mike Fameilant.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Hey, Doctor Steamy, I'm doing very well. I'm glad to
be here. How are you doing.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
I'm good. I really am just awesome hanging out and
enjoying the beautiful weather and thinking about bigfoot because we
have a couple of bigfoot events coming up well. On
the twenty second and twenty third of March, we have
the Georgia Bigfoot Conference in Demeris, Georgia at Piedmont University.
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And on May ninth and tenth, we have the Myrtle
Beast Bigfoot Festival at Sharton four Points in dear old
Sunny Myrtle Beach. So it's gonna be a lot of
fun and I believe you and Jessica Jones are the
keynote speakers for the Myrtle Beast, and we're excited about
having you there.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Yeah, that is. I keep looking at my you know,
and updating my event calendar, and that I see Myrtle
Beach and I'm just so excited. I've never been there,
and it's just going to be such a great event.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
It's going to be beautiful unless it rains. Even when
it rains, it's beautiful. So anyway, we're excited about having
you there. Now, tell us where you've been lately. I
hear a little bigfoot in my ear. Told me that
you were down south in Florida looking around for some
bigfoot in the swamps. Tell us about that.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Yeah, I just got back from It was an eight
eight night, nine day trip down out of the New
Jersey cold got the cold weather down south. We stopped
in Ashville, which is my favorite city in North Carolina.
On the way down and uh down somewhere through Georgia. Uh,
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the car broke down. So we had a Yeah, we
had a we had a little hiccup there. So that
uh we got it all fixed. It was very expensive,
but we got it all fixed. That they proceeded to Florida.
We got to three Rivers Florida, and anybody that's familiar
with Three Rivers knows it's right by Terrea and any
bigfoot or knows ter Rea because of Stacy Brown Junior's
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footage where he got the Terreya walking or the bigfoot
walking through the pine trees there and in this in
the in the in the trey of state Park. And
we explored that for a while, which is awesome. Met
up with a witness, which was cool. Uh, this is
just a long story, so interject whenever you want if
you have any questions, because I'm just gonna keep going. Uh,
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then be We only spent one night there in fortunately
this is a very very quick trip. Unfortunately a lot
of stuff to do. So we then explored some caves.
Does anybody know everybody know Florida has caves?
Speaker 1 (03:12):
I did not know. I did not know that. Tell
us a little bit about those caves. That sounds very interesting.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Yeah, there's sandstone caves that were just eroded over time
over the through the highlands kind of of the state.
It starts in central Florida kind of by Citrus County
and rolls through this state all the way up into
the Panhandle. And this is where we were up in
the Panhandle. It's called Florida Caverns State Park, and it's
some really cool history and you could do a guided
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tour through there, and it's really cool if you're ever
in the area. It's just it's I mean caves in Florida.
You can actually like go caving. It's really neat. Another
place you can go caving is what I just spoke about,
Crystal Citrus County, which is where I spend a majority
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of my time when I go to Center, when I
go to Florida. It's where my grandmother lives, so obviously
I'm gonna spend a bunch of time there. However, right
outside where she lives is called a large tract of
land called the with Lakuchi Wildlife Management Area, and we
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hung out there for a couple of nights, met up
with some really just solid people, and we had some activity.
It was great.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Tell us about now, tell us about your activity. That
is a real interest to me.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Yeah, well, I didn't, you know, It's it's a very
unusual spot to think about a bigfoot being. There's not
a lot of researchers that go there, just because it's
kind of out of the way. But that's why I
like it so much. So it's kind of I wouldn't
say Virgin territory when it comes to bigfoot researching, but
there's certainly not as heavy as a presence of researchers
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as one would expect there to be and other areas.
So anyway, we tried to do some just unusual things.
First night, we did some tree knocks and whatever and
got a response back, which is cool. Nothing else happened
that night. But the next night we were we weren't
getting anything, so we decided to do a group howl,
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just all of us together, and I think there was
six of us. We all just were like, everybody do
their own just like, ohio, how and let's just try
and see what it sounds like. It's gonna sound crazy,
but let's just try to make it sound crazy. And
it did, and we got a hol back, which was awesome.
I don't know what it was. I still have to
analyze the audio. I have yet to do that since
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we're fresh out the car. But everybody, everybody recorded it.
It's recorded on our audios, and you know it's just
something something very intriguing.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Wow, that sounds very interesting. I mean, I hope you'll
come back on and let us hear all that a
little bit later, or maybe you know, share it with
us at the at the Myrtle Beast Bigfoot conference. That
would be very interesting to hear. Do you think we
can do that?
Speaker 2 (06:13):
If it does turn out to be something legitimate and
not another person or something like that or a known animal,
that will definitely make it made again in my presentation
for sure.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Well that's great, that sounds good. So now what else
did you do down there? Because this is all sounding
like a lot of fun. I wish I was there.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
You should have came along, it had been awesome. But yeah,
So after we got that, spent two nights down by
my grandmother, we went to I had a library presentation.
For those of you that don't know, I do library
presentations full time. I speak about Bigfoot full time as
a high as a job, and that pays my way
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to camp across the country and film my show. But anyways,
we were filming the show. Next stop we had a
library and Kissing Me, Florida, which is a very cool town.
If anybody's ever been to Kissing Me, shout out very
cool people there. We library presentation went well, we camped
at Lake Kissing Me State Park, which was really cool,
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not too squatchy at all. It's in the middle of
the kind of like a little island ish area, a
little peninsula, so it's very not not too squatchy. Next stop,
we did a very special stop. One of my favorite
spots that we stopped at was Kissing Me Prairie State
Park and that is a designated night sky location dark
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sky location, so it's like one of the rules there
when you're camping you can only have red lights on.
You got to turn your headlamps, so you know, no
headlights as your drive in type of thing. It's really
it's it's strict and whatever. But the stars and the
Milky Way Galaxy, it was just something that I mean,
I've never seen anything like it before. It was just
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so cool, especially you know from Florida. You wouldn't think
in central Florida you would get a dark sky location,
but it's one of the few in the country.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Well, I've got a real quick question. Can you build it?
Can you build a campfire there?
Speaker 2 (08:17):
There are certain there's one camp site that you are
allowed to build campfires at, and then the main campsite
where you look at the Stars. That's where they say headlights.
You got to like sign off that you're agreeing because
people have these like really powerful telescopes there and they
they're so if you have any white light or any
bright light that hits them, they're going to like destroy
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the thousands of dollars piece of equipment that they got there.
So they're very strict about that.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Yeah. And then from there it was our final stop.
We made it down to the Florida Everglades in a
place I've been to before. We stopped at the Trail
Lakes Campground, which is home of the Skunk Ape headquarters
at Dave Sheeley's property, which is really cool, and we
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spent two nights just exploring the Everglades. We got we
got to meet Dusty Crumb, the python hunter that's down
there in Everglades City, and uh, it was just we
Actually the coolest the coolest thing we found down there
is we were doing some research and we found a
deceased alligator, a big gator, and from what I hear,
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that's extremely where rare to find. Uh, So you know,
I had to we had to stop all operations and
we had to call the f WC because those things
are protected. If you find a dead gator, you got
to report it and stuff like that. So we did
that and that was cool. Though I've I've met people,
I've I've talked to people that are like, I've been
in the woods in Florida my whole life and I've
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never come across the dead gator. So it's kind of
kind of ironic that I did, but really cool, cool stuff.
It's a it's an awesome area. The panthers. You got
to really watch out for the Florida Panthers down there.
It's a thing.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Well that sounds like a lot of fun. Now, how
with assuming you didn't have a breakdown, about how many
hours drive would that be from New Jersey down to
Florida County.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Let's say, yeah, about seventeen seventeen and a half to
get the central Florida from from northern New Jersey.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Lord have mercy. That's that's a long way.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
It is. It's in the name Squatch and Grandma, so
there's always there's always that, So it's it always works
out in the end. And you know, it was like
eighty four down there, and it was like twenty four
in New Jersey, so kind of worth it.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Yeah, I'll bet it was. I bet it was beautiful
and warm, and was it humid as well?
Speaker 2 (10:56):
It was? Oh, it was great. We Actually I did
something that I've never done before. I did an air
boat tour, which is cool. I found out that I
am still petrified of water, so that's good.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Okay, Yeah, you don't You're You're definitely going squatching in
some areas that I don't normally go. I'm normally in
the uh Mountains of northeast Georgia, and sometimes I get
really lucky. Sometimes I don't, you know, the you know,
the drill. Sometimes it happens, sometimes it doesn't.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Most of the time it doesn't, you know. And that's
the unfortunate part about bigfooting. I always I One of
the things people always ask me all the time is like, uh,
do you take people out looking for bigfoot with you?
And I used to. But one of my things is,
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you know, obviously that costs me money, so it's gonna
cost them money. But I don't like to charge somebody
and say, oh, you know, and not have the potential
for something to happen, you know, and give their hopes up.
You know. It's just you can explain to somebody until
you're blue in the face that you know it doesn't
happen every time, But when nothing does happen and the
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kids leave that expedition and they're kind of like sad,
it's like, oh, man, I you know that kind of
like that's one of the reasons why I don't take
people out generally.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Well, let me ask you something. About about four months ago,
went to northeast Georgia to one of my favorite locations
with a good friend, and we had a bunch of
tree knocks, a bunch of back and forth with what
I believe we're bigfoots now. It was warm that day,
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it was probably in the upper seventies. Now, the last
time we were there, which was about a month ago,
it was cold. Do you find that warmer weather generates
more action in the forest or wherever you are than
colder weather?
Speaker 2 (13:06):
No, no, not at all. It's it's weird. I don't
like the cold. If you didn't if from anything from
this podcast, if you didn't gather anything else, you can
gather that I'm not a fan of the cold. Being
from New Jersey, that poses a semi little bit of
a problem when it comes to bigfooting in winter. So
(13:30):
I do go out. I do day hikes up here
in the wintertime and night hikes. I don't camp because
that's not fun, and I do get activity. So it
means the sasquatch does is out during the winter. A
lot of people ask do they hibernate? Do I don't
think so. Wouldn't make sense that they hibernate. They're too big.
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They are just like like bear bear in New Jersey
and North America generally don't hibernate. They just go into
a state of toper, which is a deep sleep, and
they still come out. That's why we find black bear
footprints in those snow and stuff like that. So we
find big foot footprints in the snow. So I think
that it. You know, if you don't, it doesn't matter
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if it's cold or warm. I think it depends. The
more of the location you're in means the best.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Okay, So about four months ago we just got lucky
and we just had some interaction, some serious interaction. And
then a month ago we just didn't have any interaction.
We were just unlucky in terms of action.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Sure, what do you like? What's a good percentage number?
Mister Stamy. Do you think that.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
You get activity about half the time that's hot.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Yeah, that's a high number. I think when I go out,
I'm like one in one in like eight, one in ten,
give or take, which I think is fairly decent for
you know, for that bigfoot researcher.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Well, okay, here here's what I think. I think they
know me in Northeast Georgia. I think they know when
I'm there. I've been there a lot. They know that
I run the Georgia Bigfoot Conference. They know that I'm
a fan. I don't care how crazy this sounds, but
this is what I believe, and I believe they like
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what I do. So I think I get a lot
of action. And you know, I mean, what do you think,
do you do you believe like I do, that the
Bigfoot really they know who you are and they know
if they want to play, so to speak. Yeah, that's
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what I believe.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
I'll go with that. I think I think you set off.
Whether it be they get to know you over time
like you're suggesting, I think that's definitely a thing. They
get to know the people in the personalities of the
people for sure, or it could be a one off thing.
Where you just kind of set off a vibe about
you and they could pick up on that. A lot
of animals can do that, and like your pets can
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do that and stuff like that. They know when you're
sad and stuff like that. And I think that's like
when I go into the woods. I don't know if
it means anything, but sometimes what we'll do it we
did this in Florida. We'll get around in the circle
and just say, hey, you know, let's just set off
as best of vibes as we possibly can and see
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if that does anything different than if we didn't. And
there's no way to test that, but it's always cool
to think it works.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Do you Okay, I'm gonna get really, really, really down
and dirty with the questions. Do you mentally talk to
them or do you verbally talk to them? You know,
when you're out there? I mean, what do you do?
I know that I mentally talk to I do both,
and I think they they can censor, they can pick
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up every I think Bigfoot's far smarter than we are
and far more claravoyant than we are. That's what I believe.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Yeah, I I mean I I I agree that they're
they're highly intelligent creatures. I don't I when I I
don't verbally speak to them. Besides, like when I do
a big foot call or something like that. But when
I when I, when I mentally speak, I guess, if
you will, it's it's not it's more of a vibe thing.
I'm not saying, hey, bigfoot, let's have this. You know,
(17:33):
I'm gonna come out and find you. I hope you're well.
I guess I do do that kind of So I
guess I am speaking to a bigfoot if you will, Yeah,
I guess it's and I guess it's the intent. Just
with the intent that you put out that you're vibing
with it. It is And again, like like I said,
it's not gonna hurt anything to to to put that
extra good, good vibes out there.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Well, I think they they can feel that, Yeah, because
I think, as I said, they are totally clarivoyant, and
I believe they are interdimensional. And I believe that when
they don't want to be seen, they're in another They're
in another dimension, not one that is necessarily friendly toward
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us physically. I think, you know, and I've heard a
variety of stories about people coming back with terrible health
problems from going into other dimensions. And I don't want
to do that. I mean, I I'm sorry. I like
I like the earth. I like my little dimension here
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in my little place, and you know, it's just a
little too scary for me. I don't want to get sick.
But I know I have known many researchers who have
gotten sick and have died. I can think of five
right now, no names, but I can think of five
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that have passed away. We're very active researchers going out
in the woods experiencing things. I don't know. I just
I think it can be hazardous to your health. Is
that is that something that you have come across. This
is not a weird line of questioning, but it's it's
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something I think that we need to talk about a
little bit more.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Here's Here's where. And this is why I love coming
on this show is because you, you and I share
a lot of things in common, but we disagree when
it comes to what we believe their philosophies about what
Bigfoot truly is. I'm of the flesh and blood philosophy.
You're of the interdimensional philosophy, and I love that it's cool.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Or I will I will correct you. I am flesh
and blood and interdimensional because I think I think they
can be as flesh and blood as you and I are.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Yeah, okay, and and.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Then they can just it's like watching an episode of Bewitched.
They can snap their fingers and they can go inter dimensional,
they can disappear. So I believe they are both. I
guess I want to be clear on that.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Yeah, that's that's fair. I stand correct. Good, thank you
for interjecting that. But I think with that being said, though,
I think there's we can share. We share the parallel,
there's some parallels that we can gain from that. Right,
So when you say people people getting sick and passing away,
(20:33):
I can parallel. I mean, I've not known anybody researching
that's that. The only the recent people unfortunately in Colorado
that that succumbed to the elements when they were out bigfooting. Uh.
The the uh I've gotten mentally, and I'm gonna say
zapped because that's the only way that you could describe it,
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uh is by like infrasound of bigfoot. And I think
Bigfoot does have this capa ability of infrasound and when
you know that can really affect a person in some
physical ways.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Okay, now, now, now I'm gonna stop you and say,
for those people who do not know what infrasound is,
since you came up, since you brought up the term, first,
explain that. Please for the folks that don't know what
that means.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Okay, sure, infrasound is a sound that we as people
cannot hear, but we can feel. It's lower than our
our hearing range, so it's like a it's like the
low rumble of a freight train coming through. But you
we we can feel it more in our bodies and
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it gives off it it It appears different ways in
different people. For me, when I had my experience, I
was walking down this trail that I I mean, John,
I could have I did. I could have done it
with my eyes closed, upside down and backwards. That's how
many times I've done this this trail right and I
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got about a quarter mile down and I got it
felt like I hit a brick wall, like like I
could not go any further. Something told me that you're
not you shouldn't be here right now. I guess to stop.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Something said stop right exactly.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
I looked up. I saw a tree break that was
not there the week prior. Because it was right over
the path. I would have noticed that thing any day
of the week. And uh, John, it was the only
the only hike that I've I've not finished in my
entire life. So that right there says I think that
Bigfoot does have this capability, and I think, no, no
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known animals in North America can do this besides what
we think Bigfoot is and has this capability. So do
I do I do I think interdimensional? No? But do
I think that there's parallels between the two, Absolutely for sure?
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Right well, I mean I think, if I can just
ramble a bit, I think Bigfoot knows what Bigfoot's doing
and it's playing with us. He is he and she
are playing with us a little bit because they have
the upper hand. They know what they're doing. They are
not in my opinion. They can do whatever they want
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to do. And it's like, Okay, I had a wonderful experience.
Have you ever heard a squatch.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Man squatchmn uh greg Yan, Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
His son Eugene came down to North Georgia to go
squatching with me, and uh, I took him to a
place that I knew there was a lot of activity.
Don't want I will not divulge. There are two places
that I know, and it's not War Woman Road. You
can go to war War Road. All you want is
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just nothing there. Oh there's just the weird stuff whatever.
But anyway, so we're there. We see all the signs
of Bigfoot. We see the tree structures, we see the
x's along the paths, we see it up, we see
it on the ground. And I explained to him what
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I understand those to mean, and he said, yeah, that's
what I really think, and so we it was just,
you know, it's like they have a language. It's like,
have you ever seen go Beckley Tech? Okay, go Beckley Teppy?
Is that magnificent site fourteen thousand years old in eastern Turkey? Okay?
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Have you ever heard of it?
Speaker 2 (24:48):
No?
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Okay, go Beckley Teppy. I mean I watched the I
watched the Fi Files. I don't care what anybody says.
I think Andrew Gentile is just a smart, smart guy,
and I love the materiality does and it seems to
be fairly accurate now, it really does. So they explain
the current thought of what the hieroglyphs or hieroglyphics, whichever
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one you want to say, mean. And that's the same
thing as these messages that you get, and if you
can get my book Introduction to Horminology, I have about
twelve pages of those pictures and they're they're all from
Raven County, Georgia. God knows it's all. They're all over there.
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They're not where all those people are looking for them.
And I'm glad they know that the Bigfoot know how
to stay away. And it's amazing. The messages that they
send with their tree structures are identical to the messages
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that ancient civilizations seem to end with their hieroglyphs that
they have carved so carefully on stones. I mean, it's
a language. In fact. In my book Introduction Nomenology is
co authored by doctor igor Bertsev, who is the leading
Bigfoot researcher in the world. God, I love him. He
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is one of the coolest men I've ever met. And
that's what he told me one time, and I didn't
know what he meant. Then I started studying it. Go
out in the woods, I see bows of trees pulled
over in a semicircle, and you know what that I mean,
I know what I think it means. It's just not
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anything that's natural. So the Bigfoot have a language that
they use to try to communicate with us, and they
are so intelligent. I mean, you know, if they're not
going to be talking to you, you know, at least
they'll do some tree structures that will that you know
what you should and should not do. They have a
do not go which is a cross or an X
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like to too Freese in a in an X that's
up to say don't go here. But if it's on
the ground, yeah, come on, keep walking, and that's okay.
So it's like the Bigfoot have a language. The language
is no different than what we found in ancient ancient sites,
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you know, of humans, And it's just it's just really
interesting the whole culture. And I think a lot of
people I hope, I hope after I'm gone that people
love my book Introduction into Hominology. I think it's a
it's a pretty big advance because I did a lot
of research. I talked to a lot of people, and
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if you look at Bigfoot is simply an intelligent race,
it makes it makes a lot of stuff seem reasonable
and that's that's what I think. And I just think
it's it's beautiful culture. I mean, they've got good ones
and they've got bad ones. Well, you know whatever, we
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got good and bad people, sure, but there are a
lot of good ones. And it's just I'm sorry, I'll
I have waxed poetically here for six minutes, and I'm sorry.
I just but I just love talking about it because
I've experienced it and I've seen things that I've had experiences.
Even to my last experience four four months ago, it
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was just astonishing, and I knew that I was in
the magic of nature. And when you've done some of
the things that you have done and you've had results,
don't you feel like you're experiencing the magic of nature?
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Well, you know, it's it's it's true. It is it's
it's a it's a it's a very unique and magical experience.
Like you said, to have something that may that shouldn't
exist by all means, communicate and that's that's cool. That
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is a cool thing. You know. It's like you know,
I said, like one in ten times or so, I
get activity, and by about time like eight or eight
or nine, I'm kind of like, man, I don't know
if I want to do this anymore. This is getting
kind of boring, you know. And then it'll be you
know that that next time or whatever, or that night
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of course, i'll get that one reply back, the tree
knock or the vocalization'll be like, oh, that's exactly why
I'm doing it. Okay, here we you know, and reneuse
your energy.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
You know what's funny. I do get mental images sent
to me by a variety of entities, and I just
got one of a place that I need to take
you in Raven County.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Mm hm okay.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
And I believe I believe that that was a pictorial
shots sent to my head to say, take Mike over here.
You've been here before. We'll see what happens. But I
honestly just got one, and it was unmistakable. It's not
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a place, it's not anything that I think of hardly
at all, but I kind of got an idea of
where we are well ought to go. And so yeah,
I'm not gonna I'm here's the double negative. I'm not
gonna not listen. I'm gonna listen. You know, I'm gonna
listen to these because I have these episodes all the
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time and people look at me like, Damn, you're crazy, son.
Yeah I am, But I listen. I know to listen.
I know to listen to the vibes, and I know
to listen to the end or or or pay attention
to the images that I see in my head. And
I'm sure that you know how to. I'm sure you
have communications occasionally the same ways. Don't. I'm gonna be
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very presumptuous and I'm gonna say I bet you have
a few of those two.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
I do, absolutely, I think everybody does. When you have
those feelings, it's kind of like it was just, uh,
the the unmistakable. Okay, that was a sign that you know,
like like deja vu. Everybody you know, you can't explain
it happens, but it's just it's just that kind of
thing that that happens. And I think that you're you
(31:37):
just got that feeling I kind of was when I
was telling that story, I kind of got was like,
I don't know, I got this feeling that I don't know,
we should go out, and you got this feeling that
we should go out too.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
But I've got a specific location in Raven County and
I love Raven County death. I'm gonna go ahead and
announce it one of these days here, within three or
four years, I'm moving to County because I have I
have Bigfoot friends there, and I think they'd like to
have me there because they know I'll promote them. They
know I'll continue having the Georgia Bigfoot Conference, and I'll
(32:11):
you know, because I'm not a believer, I'm an experiencer.
There's a difference between believing and experiencing. I mean, I've
seen it. God, I've seen them, and you know, it's
the weird, it's it's it's a fun thing. It doesn't
it doesn't bother me. I mean weird ghost things by
(32:34):
you know, if I if I go to the Waverley
Sanatorium and I and I feel, you know, the Waverley Sanatorum,
it's a big ol'd haunted place. If I go there
and I hear I have one of these coldness experiences,
I don't like it. But I never seem to have
bad experiences when Bigfoot's around. I don't know. I get
I'm hoping Bigfoot likes me. I think, you know, I
(32:57):
promote them. I know I do, so you know, it's
fun and when I got that image, and I'll tell
you about it in the green room after we're off.
I mean, I will tell you exactly where I was
told for us to go. And it's just so crazy.
It's not a location I go very often that probably
haven't been there three times in my life. But I
(33:19):
was told to go there and so and I know
they'll be there. I trust, I do, trust you know
what I trust Bigfoot. I'm going to tell you an
amazing fact. Are you ready for a Ripley's believe it
or not?
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Fat, Yes, sir.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
The Bigfoot conference and festival business in the United States
of America is almost a two and a half billion
dollar industry. Did you know that there are so many festivals?
You know, when you look at all the festivals that
(33:57):
we have and all the commerce that people do at
the festivals, That's what I mean. In other words, in
the name of Bigfoot, people are having conferences, they're having festivals,
all kinds of crazy stuff, and it's a huge industry.
And I just think it's so much fun that it is.
I think Bigfoot's fun. Just be careful, you know, there
(34:20):
might be a bad one or two, but there are
a lot of them are that are really good.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Have you ever when you've been out in the woods,
have you ever experienced the infra sound.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
I had. I don't have to go out in the woods, Okay,
I don't. Okay, here's an example. I was at a
friend's airbnb. He has a cabin about one hundred and
fifty feet from his house, and I had a major
(34:58):
experience that night around midnight and the next morning, I
waited until seven, until the sun was up. The birds
were singing. I you know, I just wasn't gonna go out.
I just wasn't. So I went down to his house
and he had at the time three dogs. They loved me.
(35:18):
I mean, you know, dogs apparently like me. I'm head
dogs like me. So, and he had one named Sarge
that Serge has passed away. But Serge. What happened was
I walked because he always kept the door open. He said, well, listen, John,
if it's Bigfoot, Bigfoot's going to get in here anyway,
(35:39):
and nobody else is going to come up here. I said, okay,
that makes sense. So he said, we never locked the door.
So I walked in the door. I was going to
go upstairs and go use the restroom. It was seven
in the morning, and I saw Sarge the dog and
one or other of the three dogs. They came out
(36:00):
of the bedroom where my host couple was sleeping, and
they looked like they had been hit on the head. Wow,
they were drunk, hurt being hit on the head, and
I knew something that happened. I knew something had happened.
(36:22):
It was scary. I mean, I'd had a I'd had
a real scary experience. And it's in my book. It's
in the book Introduction to Horminology. I won't go into
it because I think you need to read it. I'll
get you a copy when you come down here for
because I don't think you have a I'll get your
copy of it for sure when you when when you
(36:44):
and you can read that story. It's called Terror in
North Georgia. And it was terrifying. But I could tell
that they had been subject to something very very strange,
something and they had experienced something. Now I never have
(37:04):
I I don't really have those problems. I don't because
I'm just I'm just always I've always been well, you know,
I just I'm one of those guys. I never got COVID.
I you know, I've always been pretty good shape, and
I just that's just part of my makeup. But I've
seen I know the dogs had been through something, and
(37:28):
I can imagine it was something like this. They were,
you know, dogs at seven o'clock in the morning are
not staggering around now, they're not. And they looked like
they'd been drug hit on the head or whatever. And
I knew deep in my heart something had happened. Yeah,
So that's what I'll say. I've never experienced it. I've
(37:49):
always been of sound mind, sound body. Maybe a couple
of drinks, but I've always been of sound mind and
soundbody when it comes to the Bigfoot exp speriences, especially
four months ago when I was out there in the
mountains of North Georgia in a cemetery and they started
(38:11):
communicating it was it was beautiful. I mean, I'll never
I'll never forget that it's going. It's going in the
next version of introduction to Horminology, because I want everybody
to know what we experienced that day. It was just
it was magic. It's magical. It's earth magic. To quote
(38:32):
my friend Dan Shaw, I think Bigfoot is part of
the magic of the Earth. So that's just me. It's
my opinion, and I'm buddy, I'm sticking to it. It's
part of the magic of the earth. Make friends with him,
let them know that you care and you believe in them.
And you know what, I believe. Okay, I'm not going
(38:55):
to double say I believe, but I think if you
let them know you believe in them, then they will
believe in you period.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
I like that.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
I think they will. They know that they're a psychic.
As the day is long come on, they know what's
going on, and I think they can evaporate. I don't
think they're going to have a problem with the great
when the next great flood comes, because we're going to
have one. Don't know when it's going to be. Might
be in twenty five hundred, it might be in twenty fifty,
(39:31):
it might be in twenty thirty. We're going to have
another great flood. We tend to have them every once
in a while. I think the evidence is mounting. I mean,
we've got a pull shift coming. Some people say it
won't mean anything, some people say it will be devastating.
I think it might be somewhere in between. And I
(39:51):
know one thing, I'm glad I'm not on the West Coast,
and I've canceled all West Coast trips because I think
it's too scary of there. They have a huge fault
line from northern California all the way up to Alaska.
I mean, I am terrified of the West Coast. I
don't want to be there when pardon my grammar, the
ship hits the fan, I believe it will. I think
(40:14):
that's the next great disaster. So I'm just not going.
But I'll stay in Georgia and South Carolina. I just
you know what, I like myrtle beats, and I like
the mountains of North Georgia. So I'm just gonna stay
where I like. I'll go to Illinois, I'll go up
north to Maine. That's fine, but I'm staying away from
(40:37):
the West coast. West Coast scares me because of what
truly is brewing there geologically and use all you have
to do research. Okay, I'll shut up. You're you're the guest,
you know what, Mike, I gotta say that when i'm
when I have you on the show, I feel comfortable
talking because I don't really do this. I do it
(40:59):
when I have Jessica Jone here, but you made you
made me feel comfortable. You what made me feel like, well,
it's okay John for you to run your out.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
Well, no, I think that's that's important because a lot
of times, you know, you listen to some some podcasts
and stuff like that, and it's just like the the
same the same questions the you know, over and over
from the host, and it's it's nice to hear your
your your things, and your your philosophies and your thoughts.
It's you know, it's refreshing, it's and it's refreshing to me.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
Because I've had enough experiences. You've had them, I've had them.
You know, it's fun to talk about them, but I
really don't verbalize them that much. Now I am. I
am going to have one assistant at the Georgia Bigfoot
Conference and I am going to talk thirty minutes and
(41:49):
I'm just gonna get up and I'm gonna do string
of consciousness talking about the grand things that I that
have occurred to me. I'll do my Georgia experiences. Just
you know, I love I don't know why I happened
to like Georgia, but I just do. Let me ask
you this, what what area of the country. Do you
(42:10):
really really like you ever you ever been asked that question?
Speaker 2 (42:15):
Yeah? Yeah, uh, and it's it's it's I think about
it a lot. I like Asheville, North Carolina. That's probably
my favorite city, if I if I could pick a city,
if I could pick a location, Uh yeah, I'm I'm
saying kind of northeast South Carolina. It's a nice, nice area.
(42:40):
It's you know, you drove when I drove through North
Georgia too, Like you got Tallula Falls? You got that
area is gorgeous.
Speaker 1 (42:49):
Oh my god, do you have Tallula Falls? That is
one of my favorite places on God's Green Earth?
Speaker 2 (42:55):
Yeah. Got Helen is up that way, correct.
Speaker 1 (42:58):
Yeah, Helen is about Helen Naughty, it's about It's twenty
four miles from Tullula Falls. I must it must be
because I like it and I know exactly how to
get to Helen. I love it. I mean, I just
there's something about Georgia that resonates with me. And you
know what, I think a lot of it is the people.
The people love this stuff nice, right, and they're they're
(43:23):
not It's not like going to I'm not gonna say, Okay,
it's not like going to Virginia. There are pockets in
Virginia where people love this stuff. But I think in
Georgia they are flat out enamored with bigfoot, UFOs and ghosts.
Is just all over and I was just thinking about it.
I just I just love Georgia. It's just it's just
(43:43):
like home, you know. And I call people in Georgia
every day because I guess I couldn't like it, you know,
so that everybody knows I'm in love with Georgia.
Speaker 2 (43:53):
I love the southern girl accent. You got the southern
twang accent going on down there. That's I'm such a
fan of that. That's that's all right by me.
Speaker 1 (44:04):
Yeah, I guess because I got Georgia on my mind.
I gotta, I gotta, I gotta do Ray Charles, I
got Georgia on my mind, and that's the most important thing.
And then gladys Night Midnight Train to Georgia. Those are
two of my favorite songs. I love them, and Georgia
is just the best. And that's why I always love
to do the the Georgia Bigfoot Conference. I mean, we're
(44:27):
gonna be at Piedmont University, beautiful place. They have been
so accommodating. They've been so nice about doing all this,
and I'm hoping we can have a couple more conferences
because the people are nice, the venue is beautiful, and
it's in north North, North Atlanta. It is the outskirts
(44:48):
of Atlanta. But we finally made it to Atlanta. Georgia,
you know, the Bell, the Bell of the South. And
I just loved at Atlanta. I had so many great
experiences there. I was a sale, was rip and I
covered Georgia and it was just it was just lovely, lovely, lovely.
So I mean, I can't I can't wait, and I'm glad. Okay,
(45:09):
I have to shut up because you're our guests and listen,
you've got great experiences, and so tell us. Okay, we
got to do this. You've got to tell us two
really good experiences on your trip down south this past
(45:31):
couple of weeks. Pick them and tell them.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
Two great experiences. Okay, let's see. Uh the meeting I
met up with, I don't know what do you mean?
We didn't get meant much. Watch experiences. That's it. That's
the only thing. So I don't want to make.
Speaker 1 (45:47):
Up, no, no, no, but just you know, experiences, the
people that you.
Speaker 2 (45:51):
Hung out with, gotcha.
Speaker 1 (45:52):
Okay, you know what, whatever was good about your trip
to Georgia, not George, I'm sorry your what was good
about your trip to Florida tell us.
Speaker 2 (46:02):
Joe, Yeah, it's it was a reunion trip for me.
It was the people that I've met that really made
the trip. I went down with my manager Jill, and
we met up with my good friend I met two
years ago, Stevie. He lives down there, and he brought
his creature research creature Man research team out with him,
(46:23):
Jesse and Carol, and we met up with Lisa from
Lisa's Escapades and just really great people. And then of
course my good friend Jimmy. He's the one that was
with me when I first got into big footing, when
I first got rocks thrown at me in North Florida.
He was the guy that was with me and threw
the rock back at it. So I got to meet
up with my good friend. I've been friends with him
(46:45):
for probably fifteen years, so it was good. If you
didn't know, I used to live in Florida, I lived
in Tampa. I was an EMT down there, so going
back down there it was always good. I got lunch
in Tampa, which is really cool to see some old,
some old parts of the city that I haven't seen
in years. So I think that that was an experience.
(47:06):
And the second experience, I think was just like I
was kind of saying, that dark sky having just being
surrounded by you know, one hundred and eighty degrees of
nothing but the planets. They had that planet align event
going on. We saw that, and I think the Train
(47:28):
of the Planets they called it, and then just all
the stars and the galax in the Milky Way is
just so phenomenal. And to me, it's not about finding
a bigfoot. That's That's not what bigfooting is all about.
It's about the journey to get there. And and I hope,
I hope everybody you know takes that the heart tonight
when they go I'm going to.
Speaker 1 (47:48):
Stop you right there and say, you're one hundred and
one percent right. It's about the journey, the people you meet,
and the experiences you have. That's what it's all about,
isn't it.
Speaker 2 (48:01):
That's it so much fun.
Speaker 1 (48:06):
I can't wait to go back to I can't wait
to go back to Raven County. I'll never forget the
first time I drove over there. It was the most
paranormal experience I've ever had. I am in my car
driving on the Sumpter Parkway or whatever they call it is,
you know, part of that part of the road that
(48:28):
goes over from Westminster to what you call it to Clayton,
and I felt something squeeze me all over.
Speaker 2 (48:42):
Oh as you're driving, yes, oh wow.
Speaker 1 (48:46):
And I didn't know. I was just and then I realized,
don't be scared. Maybe Bigfoot's glads you're coming. And I
believe it was. I mean, I felt have you ever
had your arms squeezed?
Speaker 2 (49:02):
I know, yeah, yeah, like blood pressure type thing just squeezed.
Oh yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (49:08):
Well I felt my entire chest, my arms, and my
legs being squeezed. It's like somebody was hugging me.
Speaker 2 (49:17):
Oh wow.
Speaker 1 (49:18):
And I mean I was like god Lee, and I knew.
I just knew it was a Bigfoot experience. I couldn't.
I couldn't, I couldn't deny it. I knew what it was.
But you know, I mean, so I've just had you know,
I think we have a lot of Bigfoot experiences that
we might not necessarily recognize what we need to enjoy.
(49:40):
So yeah, so you you what you loved about the
trip was the night sky and watching all those great
things in the Celestial Ballet and also seeing your friends. Yeah,
and that was great, and I mean wish i'd been
there for it.
Speaker 2 (49:58):
H we go every year. You're more than a welcome
next year to tag along.
Speaker 1 (50:04):
Well, now, just let let me give me a little
leave time and I might just do that. I mean,
I'd love to go down there. I mean it's just
Florida is kind of a neat place.
Speaker 2 (50:14):
Open invite.
Speaker 1 (50:16):
Okay, good, Well, just just remind me a couple of
months in advance. Yeah, and I'll and I'll see if
I can schedule it, because you know, it's just it's
just fun. I just like I like going out on
these paranormal trips because I meet a lot of good
people and yeah, we have fun. Uh yeah, I've just
(50:37):
had so many good experiences. That's why I keep doing it.
Speaker 2 (50:41):
That's another that's another. That's another experience that that I had.
And that's that when you when you just mentioned too
and and something that people you take a lot for grant,
but that's having a good time. There's a lot of
there's a lot of you know, I've been with investigators
and researchers that go out and are super strict and
(51:02):
really like, you know, you have to keep your your
headlamp on your wrist and it has to be read
at all times and no talking, and you know you
have to hop, skip and jump through the woods to
find a bigfoot. And to me, I don't find that fun.
And that's what I want to do is have fun.
That's what life is all about, is enjoying it and
(51:23):
having a good time. So uh, that's why, like when
I go out and investigate, I'm not like that. I'm
kind of the opposite of that. I'm kind of like, hey,
you want to try something, let's try and see if
it works. You know who's who. There's no rule book
on bigfooting. So that's that's another thing. It was. It
was just a really fun, fun trip.
Speaker 1 (51:45):
I agree with you, and just just go out there,
keep doing it and just know that you're being watched.
Just know that you're being watched, and one day they'll
say hello. I guarantee that is again, that is doctor
John's guarantee. One day they'll say hello. And it's just
(52:06):
a lot of fun. So now where are you headed next?
You've got many, many adventures before you get down to
Myrtle Beach.
Speaker 2 (52:14):
Yeah. I next, let's see. The next adventure I have
is ah, here we go. We're going to Kentucky, Campbell County,
which is a far northernmost county in Kentucky. And then
we are from there, we are going to Nashville. Baby.
(52:36):
We got a couple of libraries in the Nashville area,
so I've never got to explore the city. I love
the whole country vibe, so I'm gonna go explore it
for a couple of nights and see what it has
to offer. So that's where I'll be next.
Speaker 1 (52:49):
Oh. I love Nashville. It's just one of my favorite
places in the world. So yeah, I hope you have
a great time there. Let me know when you're there.
I'll send some very positive vibes. I love Kentucky. Kentucky's
one of my favorite places. It starts off with a
(53:10):
little town called Corbin, Kentucky. Do you know why I
love Corbin, Kentucky?
Speaker 2 (53:18):
Why does that sound so familiar?
Speaker 1 (53:21):
In my opinion, it is one of the most famous
restaurant towns in the world. Colonel Harlan Sanders Corbin Kentucky.
And that's where Kentucky Fried Chicken number one is and
they make it different. If you go to any Kentucky
Fried Chicken owned by Pepsi Cola, it's all different. But god,
(53:45):
it is so good there. They put it in these
glass cases, they let it steam. Is just oh my god,
it's the best stuff in the world. And I mean,
I had just eaten lunch and I stopped there. I said,
oh my god, this is the original. And it didn't
matter to me. I spent twelve dollars and I ate
and I ate me another. The potatoes were the potatoes
(54:07):
were fresh. It was awesome. So, I mean, I just
love Corbin Kentucky, and I have a got better.
Speaker 2 (54:14):
I said. This podcast was sponsored by KFC.
Speaker 1 (54:18):
Is that belg thing? You're looking good? Dog? I love it.
It's just great. Now, I'm not a fan of down
down the road here five miles and make a left
in Carolina Forest that now I'm not. I'm not a
fan of that one. But I'm a fan of number
one Corbin Kentucky. It's great. And they've got a location
that I'm looking at in one of these days because
(54:40):
that's near London, Kentucky. That's near the Daniel Boone National Forest,
which are you familiar with that?
Speaker 2 (54:49):
I love the Daniel Boone. It's huge inside that they
got the Red River Gorge, which is one of my
favorite areas. Yes, very cool area.
Speaker 1 (54:56):
Corban's right outside there, and I want to go there,
and I want to take a group of people and
us go camp and build a campfire and say Bigfoot.
Speaker 2 (55:05):
Come, oh count me in.
Speaker 1 (55:08):
Okay, good, I will do in fact okay, well good,
Well then I guess you want to be the keynote
speaker for the corn Kentucky Big for Conference. Yes, you got,
you got the gig. You may take me two years,
but we are going to Corbin, Kentucky. Because I love it.
I love it. I love it. It's it's just it's
just great.
Speaker 2 (55:28):
Let KFC know they're gonna need some more chicken.
Speaker 1 (55:31):
Oh that they will. They will make it. And they
have a museum.
Speaker 2 (55:35):
Oh that's cool.
Speaker 1 (55:36):
It's just so it's just so perfect. It's like it's
like Mayberry on steroids. You know, It's like and I
wouldn't and I'll just restate this. I wouldn't have these
experiences if I wasn't out researching the paranormal would you.
Speaker 2 (55:52):
No, Nope, nope. I came across and I'm in people
may or may not believe this, And it's totally okay
if you don't up in the Catskill Mountains. It's a
it's a little town called kirk Hunks and kirk Honks
and or something like that. And I swear to you
we came across the world's third largest garden gnome and
(56:16):
the thing is big. I'm not gonna lie that. Things
like three stories tall.
Speaker 1 (56:22):
Did you take a picture of it?
Speaker 2 (56:24):
Oh? Yeah, Oh, we we filmed in front of it.
We got pictures. I mean, you're not gonna you're not
gonna take that and not not gonna have tourist touristy
photo in front of that thing.
Speaker 1 (56:34):
Okay, send send me one. I gotta I gotta see
if that's great, you know, and and uh and there's
uh And when you come down here, I'm gonna take
you one too. One of the most frightening places you've
ever been.
Speaker 2 (56:48):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (56:49):
I'm a big Civil War fan. Oh nice, the history
of it, and we have one of the most frightening
Civil War parks in America and it's just scary. Okay,
So I'll take you there. I'm not going to tell
everybody where. We got to keep We've got to be
careful about these things. But you know, if you really
want to come to the Myrtle Beast Bigfoot Conference, and
(57:12):
we'll come. We'll go there on Sunday. It'll be fun. Well,
Mike Famelon, as usual, you have met and exceeded all expectations.
I have had the most fun.
Speaker 2 (57:24):
I just I can't believe it's been an hour. This
is this is you know, every time it doesn't, it
goes so quick.
Speaker 1 (57:31):
Right, and uh so we'll and I'll do that. I'll
do the quick call after the show. Got to make
sure you're gonna come back.
Speaker 2 (57:42):
Worry about that one.
Speaker 1 (57:43):
It's been fun and thanks a lot, and thanks to
everybody listening to Scary Cast because we love what we do,
and I think that's what's important. We we've got a cast.
The real cast is coming up. We've had you, we
got Jessica Jones coming up. We've got George Lunsford and
his bunch, North Carolina Investigates. They're gonna be at Georgia
(58:05):
Bigfoot Conference. We're gonna have Matt delfback, We're gonna have
Sonia Thompson of Walking Dead, you know, most famous lady
zombie of all time. She's on the cover of Time magazine.
She's but she's such a sweet lady. I love her
to death, and I met her through all this wonderful
(58:26):
paranormal stuff. So I've just been I've been blessed to
be involved in it. So first of all, Mike, thank
you so much. We want you back, Thank you to
everybody who's been listening, and we'll be back sooner than
later on the One and Only Scary Cast. Bye Mike.
Speaker 2 (58:46):
Yeah,
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