December 3, 2024 • 48 mins
Dr. John Stamey and Dr. Tray Dunaway interview Bigfoot Explorer Mike Familant! Mike wil be the keynote speaker at the Myrtle Beast Bigfoot Festival on May 10-11, 2025!
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Good evening and live for Myrtle Beach, South Carolina. This
is doctor John Stamy and I'd like to welcome everybody
to our first after Thanksgiving episode of Scary Cast. It's
great to be here. I've got a great guest that
we've had before and my favorite co host, So tonight
(00:24):
my co host is doctor Trey done Away. He is vacationing,
but he decided to chunge them and join us tonight.
So doctor Trey, how are you doing tonight?
Speaker 2 (00:33):
I'm doing fine and how could I not join you
tonight and the first post Thanksgiving Scary Cast.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Well, I'm glad you did, and we're gonna have a
lot of fun because tonight from northwest New Jersey, we've
got a bigfoot hunter and he's a lecturer and he's
a lot of fun to talk to. So, ladies and gentlemen,
for his second appearance this year on Scary Cast, I
want to introduce Mike femelon. How are you doing?
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Just the fact that you invited me back is beyond me.
Thank you so much. I'm doing so amazing. Thank you
again for having me back. It's gonna be awesome.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Oh you're You're welcome and we'll tell more about this later,
but you're gonna be the keynote speaker for the Myrtle
Beast Bigfoot Festival and that's gonna be I believe May
the around May the tenth of next year, and that
might be the wrong date, but I don't have it
firmly implanted in my head just yet, but it's something
(01:33):
like that, and it's gonna be a blast. So we're
gonna have a lot of fun. We're gonna look at
the stars, look for UFOs and everything. So we'll talk
a little more about that at the end of the show.
So anyway, Mike, what you do is you go around.
You do kind of like a US tour every year
and you talk to lots of people about Bigfoot and
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what you do. So tell us where you're gonna be
going in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Yeah, it's a pretty cool thing. For those of you
who haven't seen the first episode of Scary Cast, what
I do is I go around full time to libraries
and venues during the day and I speak about Bigfoot
doing my library tour. Next year's tour is called the
Do You Believe Tour, which I'm kind of excited about.
(02:21):
And during the day, I speak at libraries, and during
the evening I go around and that funds my way
to camp at state parks and national forests at night
and film my YouTube show in the Shadow of Big
Red Eye. So in twenty twenty five, we have some
awesome venues lined up. Not only did you mention Myrtle Beast,
which I am excited looking forward to in May too,
(02:43):
down in South Carolina. That's like the best time to
be down there, is it not.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Yes, it is. That's before it gets scalding hot. It's
really we really have some fairly nice weather in May.
It's warm and beautiful. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Yeah, So when you told me about that and you
asked me to come down, there's no way I wasn't
gonna say yet, you know, no to that. So there
I'm doing that. I'm going to Mississippi, which is cool.
I've only been to Mississippi one time. Up to Michigan,
basically everything east of the Mississippi I'm hitting this year.
I think we have it online up to twenty nine
(03:18):
states this year. We're planning on hitting in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
That is well, that's great. Now let me ask you this.
I run the Georgia Bigfoot Conference and you were booked
that weekend. But are you going to Georgia anytime this
next year?
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Yes, And as a matter of fact, I had just
got those dates scheduled. I will be in Georgia because
I know you got a lot of listeners from there.
Let me get to the right page here. Let's see
Lafayette Walker Library. That's I believe north west, and then
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that will be the only appearance in in Georgia that
I have so far this year. But that's in the
Lafayette Walker County, I believe it is. Library. That's that's
up by Alabama. I think it is, So that's gonna
be really cool have a library there.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Well, that's great. Maybe we can visit with Jessica Jones
when we go over there, because she is on the border.
She's in Carrollton, Georgia, which is very near Alabama, so
maybe we can all visit with her, and I might
have a date for you. I'll I'll talk to you
about that after the show. But I might be running
a conference over there, it turns out, so we'll we'll
(04:36):
see if all of that can work out. But it's
always a lot of fun to be with you. I
met you at what was the name of that place?
It was in Hamlet, North Carolina, And I never can
remember the name of that conference in Counterquest.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
How can you not remember?
Speaker 1 (04:52):
I don't know. I have a bunch of I have
a bunch of things in my head. But yeah, Now
have they scared scheduled in Counterquest this year or has
it been put on hold?
Speaker 3 (05:04):
I've been trying to look into it. I haven't been
able to get in contact with anybody, so I believe
it's the It's on the DL for now as far
as I can tell. So it's not on my calendar.
I know that much.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Okay, well maybe you and I'll do something about that.
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Yeah, anyway, it was fun.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
I mean, it was good to see my friends Ron
Moorehead and his crew. They were there and so we
just had a grand time. I just had a really
grand time over there at n't counter Quest. So anyway,
now let's go to the important part. You are a
bigfoot explorer and we're excited to have you here, especially
(05:43):
for that in fact that you're going to be at
one of my bigfoot conferences. So I've asked you to
prepare a couple of stories that you've had about bigfoots.
So you're going to tell the stories, and I'm gonna
have doctor Trey ask you questions about your stories because
I thought that would be fun tonight. You all up
(06:04):
that doctor Tray.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
That sounds good before we begin this. Lafayette, Alabama? Is
it in Alabama?
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Georgia?
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Georgia? Is it adjacent to the area of opal Aka, Alabama?
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Uh? You're I think you just sneezed. It's in Walker County, Georgia.
Does that? Is that a better better?
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Sure?
Speaker 2 (06:29):
I'm not sure. But if it's near opa Likah, Alabama,
and it's that would be in the upper right the
northeastern area of Alabama before you get into Georgia.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Okay? Is that Yeah, that's exactly where I'll be staying in. Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
I did my endoscyby training in Opelaika, which is near there.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
And the the fella that was thessistant in the GI lab,
he pronounced Lafayette Lafayette. Oh, so to hear someone referring
to Lafayette, it is indeed Lafayette. Just a little travel
tip for you on your way.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Do you remember how the locals pronounce it? Because I'm
always trying to be when I go down there, I
always want to be in the inn.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
I don't know if he was a local, but he
and he called it Lafayette and I was trying to
figure out and it was it was Lafayette, So gotcha,
So be prepared for either pronunciation.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
I'll be on standby, all right, Verry Good.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
And one other thing that I would like to mention
about Alabama. I would like to say that Kevin Holland
of The Walking Dead and I are putting together a
conference and we'll we'll check the date out with you, Mike,
but we're putting together a conference. It's near Coleman, Alabama,
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and I've got some friends, that's some paranormal friends there
and we're going to see if we can round them
up and have a really grand time. That'll probably be
in the middle of the summer, but well, i'll check
that out with you, see if you're going to be
around that area. But I like Alabama and I always
enjoy going there and meeting with the people there. They're
always fun and they're always excited about what we're doing.
(08:27):
And in fact, I've got a lecturer coming. He's a
UFO lecturer coming to my January eleventh. I'm slow because
I'm trying to remember the exact days. We're going to
have a conference in Blue Ridge, Georgia, and it's going
to be a lot of fun. And he's coming from
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that area of Alabama as well, so we're getting some
good friends and good contacts over there in Alabama. So
we'll see what we can do. All right, sir, the
floor is yours. Mike fam a lot. Tell us some
Bigfoot stories.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
All right, Well, it's I think I already told y'all
my first encounter story where I had the rocks thrown
at me in Florida, So I'm not going to tell
that one again because I don't want your listeners to
get bored. So I figured, what other cool stories do
we have similar to the rock throwing, because I find
rock throwing very intriguing. One specific incident I was with
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I believe it was four or five other people, and
we were on a bigfoot expedition and I brought them
into my area that I always go to, and we
hiked a mile back into this wilderness area where there's
been three or four bigfoot sightings in the past, and
it was about I don't know. Midnight, we walked in
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mile down. We all were sitting on this down tree
facing the swamp where we thought all the food animals
and prey were gonna be in the swamp, you know,
the deer, the frogs, everything. So we figured that's where
Bigfoot is going to be in eating these animals about
this time of night. So anyways, we uh, we start.
(10:10):
We sit there and we're in silence for about a
half hour and nothing. I mean, it's so loud, you know,
the things that all of a sudden we start. I
was like, listen it that we got to get going.
This is getting a little boring. When I get bored,
I get kind of impatient, and it's not fun for
me anymore. So it's like, let's do something fun. Let's
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hike or something. So anyways, we start talking. All the
animals go quiet, which I could imagine they started, you know,
you know, getting loud as we quieted up. But anyways,
started talking to get quiet. All of a sudden, come
crashing you hear, rolling through the through the forest. Uh,
this rock and it's it rolls through. I was sitting
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right next to my friend Heather, and it rolled in
between our legs and it was maybe it wasn't soccer,
maybe like softball size, if you would, like you know, softball,
and it rolled and we we all immediately we were
all facing the swamp. We all immediately turned around. We
had thermal imaging cameras. None of us saw anything, right,
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it was like, what that That's kind of strange, you know,
it had to came from right behind us. There was
a hill behind us, right, so we were looking kind
of up towards the hill nothing, didn't see anything. But
then we looked down and thermed the rock and it
was ambiently hotter than all the other rocks that were around.
So I think that was super cool because that means
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something I think had transferred its body heat to that
rock was holding that rock for some length of time.
Isn't that so cool? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (11:47):
That's pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
It really is. Now just real quickly, what state was
this in? New Jersey?
Speaker 3 (11:54):
This is Morris County, New Jersey. Yeah, okay, so almost
my back yard. I've been doing solid research there for
since I've been into bigfoot research, so so fifteen years now,
fourteen years and it's the only other time that location
is the only other time that I've actually started a hike.
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I went in, started the hike, and I got dropped
off at the trailhead. It's a one way hike, and
I made it about a quarter mile in. And I
had did this hike hundreds of times. I could have
done it upside down, backwards, daytime, nighttime, you name it.
This was nighttime by myself. When a quarter of a
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mile I felt like I got hit by a brick wall,
Like I walked into like this wall, and I just
I physically couldn't go any further. Every hair stood up
on my body, and I was like, oh my god,
something does not want me here, Like this is not good.
So I looked around and I saw this tree break
that was not there. I was on this trail like
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two weeks. Was not there. It was right on the pathway,
and I was like, man, I called my buddy up.
I said, man, you got to come back and pick
me up because I meet me at the trailhead. It
was the only hike that I've never finished, and that
was on the same trail that this happened on. So
I don't know, man, It's something crazy going on, all.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Right, Doctor Trey, what do you think A couple of thoughts.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Has anyone is there any data on what the body
temperature of a bigfoot is?
Speaker 3 (13:31):
I couldn't imagine. No, no, no, I I know.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
And this ambient heat that was left over in uh,
the ambient temperature that was left over in the rock.
Have you ever seen a rock with that type of
temperature profile?
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Oh, rocks glow hot all the time. But what was
super interesting is they were all glowing, but this one
was substantially twenty degrees hotter than the rest of the
rocks that were around. So that's that that that's either
the rock composition was different of a type of rock,
or the sun was on that rock longer, or something
else happened to it.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
And what time of the day was this?
Speaker 3 (14:12):
This is probably about twelve thirty at night.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Well, I tell you, I mean, even if it was
heated up during the day, I think by twelve thirty
at night, it would be the same temperature as most
of the other rocks around.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
I wonder how long it would you'd have to hold
a rock to get the temperature up substantially differently than
everywhere else.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
That's a very good question. That's a good that's a
good test rock.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
And then chucks it. It's not going to be terribly warm,
but if they hold it for a while, then then
it might be warm. Interesting experiment. Well anyway, those are
those are my thoughts with the rock And when have
you found Bigfoot on a heat signature before with you're scanning?
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Yes, I to once and I didn't. It was weird.
It was in high Point State Park in New Jersey.
I was out there during the day solo, and I
was on this gas line, which I believe that Bigfoot
follow gas lines and power lines kind of like we
as humans follow highways. It makes sense there's a lot
of food along them. But anyways, I was. I was
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video recording with my normal camera and therming at the
same time. Don't ask me why. Somebody, one of my
old friends who has since passed away, was like, hey,
you should just therm during the day for the heck
of it, and I'm I was like, I guess not.
Why not? It's you know, it's not gonna hurt anything.
So I'm thermin and I'm looking through the therm and
I'm videotaping at the same time, and I see this
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figure move from from my thermal screen from right to
left and it's very ambiguous. It could be anything. It doesn't.
It's so it's far away, but it's something moving and
it has some hike behind it. And I'm like, oh man,
you know it was crazy. So went back redid everything.
The next day we did a recreation. We couldn't come
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up with the right height profile, but it was very strange.
Anybody can if you want to go to my YouTube
YouTube at shadow re at eye and you can check
out thermal setting in high point and see whatever you
guys think it is and let me know.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Well, it's intriguing using thermal imaging because if you could
standardize some of it, well, I guess it just does
the thermal imaging give you a specific imaging depending on
temperature or is it relative to everything else you're looking at.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
It depends on the thermal you have. Some are heat sensitive,
meaning it shows you the heat. Like if ninety degrees
will be one color, one hundred degrees will be another color.
My thermal is the opposite where it's it's a relative
to the other heat around. So like if you look
at the sky, the trees will be bright like glowing
hot red because the sky is obviously cold, right right, Okay, interesting.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
M Yeah, the great great questions, Doctor Trey and really
really good story, Mike. I mean that's why I like
having you here is because you've got a lot of
practical experience with the big guy out in the woods
and trying to find him. I think you found him,
and don't you don't you find it very interesting? He
was able to roll that rock right up to your feet.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Oh man, right between right between us and and I.
When I when I first got into big footing back
in Florida, I had rocks thrown at me. And the
biggest thing to note about that encounter was that the
rocks did not hit me. They they they landed very
close and the same in this incident where we were
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all with a rock roll next to us, didn't hit us.
I think if Bigfoot wanted to hurt a person or
people that they could. However, inherently they choose not to
for some reason.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
That's their their territory.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Vockyball Bigfoot.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Well, that's great, that's great, all right, Mike, come up
with another story. I'd like to have two more stories
from you, if you don't mind. These are a lot
of fun.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
All right, Let's see, Uh One theory that I have
and that I've noticed. Actually it's not my theory. I
adapted it from one of my friends, so I can't
say it's my theory and I can't take credit for it,
but his theory, and I've I've adapted it and I've
I've noticed it whenever I go into the woods. Now
is tree knocks which are intriguing. Nobody has ever seen
a bigfoot knock on a tree, So why do we
(18:44):
assume that tree knocks are from bigfoot? That's a question
for you guys. Is that any idea like what I
don't I don't know. I mean, I don't think anything
else besides a human can knock on a tree, that
that could be a thing. But there's other birds, there's woodpeckers, right,
bears knocking over trees, I mean, animals knocking over trees.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Well, do trees make a knocking sound in and of themselves?
If one side is heated up? Does does a tree
expand or contract? And perhaps for sure may sound I don't.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Know, Yeah, yeah, definitely, definitely in the wintertime. I've walked
through the woods and even without the trees hitting together,
they pop for sure. But anyway, so there's there is
a difference. However, when you hear distinctive patternized knocking sounds.
There's a difference when you hear one random tree knock
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versus a knock knock knock. That's different to me. Right,
So when I go into the woods and I and
I do have the the honor that you know, the
being the blessed with hearing these tree knocks, it really
depends on however many knocks I hear represents how many
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people that I have in the group that I'm bring
out into the woods. And people don't you know. And
when I say that, people are like, oh my god,
that's that's happened to me before. But like when I'm solo,
I hear single knocks. When I bring two people out,
I hear two knocks, four people bam bam, bam bam.
And I think that's a bigfoot's way, a bigfoot's method
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of telling other bigfoot in the area, Hey, there's this
many things that are not normal that are coming into
our little home area, so be aware or get out
of the area or heads up type of deal, kind
of like their alert method like other animals have.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Now, that's great, I would like to make an observation
on something that happened to me in the woods about
two months ago in Raeven County, Georgia. I was out
with mister Bill Lackey. He's a good friend of mine.
He's ninety three years young. He goes out in the
woods with the best of them. And I will share
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a story that's exactly like what you said. We were
in a cemetery. We had our dowsing rods with us.
We were doing stuff with our dowsing rods, and all
of a sudden I heard two knocks. I mean they
were very very distinct two knocks. There were two of us,
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and then we just kept on doing what we were doing.
And then I heard four knocks, and I stepped to
the edge of the cemetery and I said, well, hello,
I'm doctor John Stami and I'm here with mister Bill. Now,
mister Bill lives up on top of the hill in
that white house. He's a really nice guy. And if
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you ever have a chance to help him or watch
him to make sure he's okay, please do and thank you.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
We won't be here very long.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
And that is exactly the statement that I made to
the woods. Assuming the Bigfoot was going to hear it,
and then we heard just a whole bunch of knocks
like they were laughing, And I mean, that is something
that is etched in my memory. And that's why I'm
going back to see him next weekend, not this coming weekend,
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but the next weekend, and we're going to go back
out in the woods and we're gonna see what kind
of fun we're gonna have. But what do you think
the two knocks would obviously have been me and mister Bill,
what would the four knocks have been? What do you
hypothesize on that?
Speaker 3 (22:41):
What were you trying? Okay, now this goes this kind
of this is thrown it out in left field. But
what were you drewing with the dowsing rods? Were you
trying to call spirits or trying to find something or.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Okay, mister Bill said that when you use dowsing rods
over Civil War graves that are like before eight teen
sixty five, they go crazy, they do a lot of
moving around, but if they are newer graves, they don't
do anything. And he showed that to me, So that's
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that was kind of the experiment that we were doing.
They are about twenty five graves in that smallish graveyard,
and we were taking our dowsing rods, both of us,
putting them over each grave and seeing, you know, the
ones that seemed to be from prior to the Civil War.
We were getting action and we weren't getting any action
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from the newer ones. Whatever that means.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
John, And you had your dowsing rods, did you have
one in each hand?
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (23:45):
I did.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Well, maybe maybe it was two knocks meaning they're two
guys here, and then there are four knocks meaning and
between both of them they have four dowsing rods.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
That could be that could be could be, but there.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Was no qualifier for a human or dowsing rod or
anything else.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
And then I think all the knocks after that work.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
We're probably laughter out here. And then he said four.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
That's just intriguing to me. Uh, And maybe it was
the it, you know. I think Bigfoot is capable of
picking up on energy that we can't pick ups as people,
So I like, like, for example, I think Bigfoot has
the capabilities of seeing the energy that trail cameras can
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admit and produce. That's why there's no good pictures of
trail camera or Bigfoot on trail cameras. I just think
he avoids them because they can see what they emit.
So I think with it, maybe with the dowsing rods,
there's this energy that can be admitted. I have no
clue whatsoever, but that Bigfoot may be able to pick
up on I don't know. It's it's intriguing.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Interesting.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
I agree. I mean, I've always heard and Jessica Jones
is a big one on this, that Bigfoot's a lot
smarter than we are. So they were just doing what
they were doing. And when we go out there, we
might have three people. Ray Basquet from Gainesville, Georgia, he's
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a very good friend of mine, and he might come
out with us, and he might bring his son, which
would be four people. And we'll see if we get
four knocks, and then whatever we get, and then I
will make a statement directly to the woods and just
see how it goes. I mean, it would be good.
(25:48):
It's always good to collect data, and this would be
some very interesting data. This would be two data, you know,
two points, one two months ago and one in about
a week and a half. So I'll let you know,
Mike and doctor tre what we get. And that is
a pattern of communication and that's something that I am
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very interested in, is the design of communication and how
do people communicate with each other? And so we will
see I will give kind of a pleasant and maybe
humorous little talk when I step out, you know, to
the end of the of the graveyard, and just see
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what happens.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
So we don't know, walk in and you hear four knocks,
you can you can ask when you talk, if one
of us were to leave, how many knocks.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Would you give us? And see if you get three?
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Well, now that's a good point to talk directly to
them and ask them a question that would be Mike,
have you ever heard of any type of back and
forth communication like that between humans and bigfoot?
Speaker 3 (27:01):
The only times I've had any experience with speaking to
witness I've never experienced anything like that. But any witnesses
about that is like long term, after long term habituation
things over years, Bigfoot will start communicating back and forth,
either by leaving gifts or something like that, or by
you know, even communicating verbally or not verbally, but you know,
(27:24):
speaking back and forth to to people. I've heard Bigfoot
like over after years of hearing people, they mimic their
their voices actually uh, and and I have a good
friend that that experienced that, and that's just I mean
that that just goes to show you the you were
talking about the design of communication, right that the language
(27:44):
of Bigfoot, if you will, but also the the just uh,
the level of intelligence that Bigfoot has to have to
be able to do that has got to be crazy.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
I think that would be a marvelous thing. And from
what I know, Bigfoot can pick up on He's probably
aware of what we're talking about, because I believe there
are two clans of Bigfoot over there in that area
near Clayton, Georgia. And we'll see if Bigfoot, what's the word,
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If Bigfoot goes along with what I'm trying to do,
we'll see and we'll let you know, we'll have you
on the show. And I think that would be a
grand thing because they they have experienced me and known
me for about five years. They know and I've talked
to them, and you know, when I'm just standing there
and I'm looking in the woods and I talk to
(28:44):
them and I say, well, you know, I run the
Georgia Bigfoot Conference. We love doing it, and you know,
I just that may be crazy, but that's what I do,
and I talk to them, and so I have had
interesting experiences. When they slammed against the bed and breakfast
cabin that I was in, it was terrifying. It was
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absolutely terrifying. And I could hear them prowling around. Sorry, Bigfoot,
it was a little bit of a prowl. I heard
you prowling around the little cabin, and I knew that
that door wasn't gonna hold if you wanted to get in,
And then Bigfoot was stepping around it, and it just
seemed the noise seemed to stop. And I just cut
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off that light in the cabin and sat back in
that feud time that was in there, and I guess
I just passed out, went to sleep I wanted to,
and I woke up at three. There were no sounds
in the woods when all that was going on. But
when I woke up about three in the morning, the
birds were chirping, the animals were making sounds, and so Bigfoot,
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that was some communication. And I think that's something that
we ought to. You know, maybe if you have some
memories or something thing, you ought to jot them down,
and I'll jot them down. We might put a little
paper together Mike, I think that would be very interesting
to talk about when we go to Myrtle Beach, don't you.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Yeah, yeah, if we can compare notes on and get
my big thing and I think he kind of touched
on it before, is patterns. If we can find patterns
of bigfoot, then we can learn more about this species.
And once we learn more about the species, we can
learn more about what they do, and we could predict
their actions. And once we can predict what they do,
we can find these things a lot easier than just
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kind of what we're doing now, and that's just going
in the woods and hoping really well.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
You know, I don't think I don't think we're trying
to find them in a malicious.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
Sense, No, no, no, But.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
I think that establishing some communication, if they respond similarly,
if we have four people, then I'm going to tell
you that shows intelligence. That is called the Turing test
after Alan Turing, Theuter scientists. That's the advantage of being
a computer scientist. We have AI artificial intelligence, and that
(31:07):
is one of his tests for intelligence is if you
can tell a pattern based on what is asked. So
this this can lead to all sorts of really great,
great revelations.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Is you know, it's hard to figure out what is
what to call this stuff? Yeah? Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
And and and then if we could show that across
the country even more, you know, widespread than just two accounts,
meaning between you and I, if we could get more
people on boards that oh yeah, I've documented that as well.
Then I mean we're onto something bigger and better things.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Like I like to say, right now, I've got some
friends up Nearland between the Lakes and Kentucky and northern Tennessee,
and I know Elijah Henderson very well, and I will
talk to I will talk to him about this before
we go out and let him know what we're trying
to do. This is the kind of thing that he
would I can speak for him on this. He would
love to do this with us, at least up there
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when he is out with his sister and the two
guys that he goes out of. Now, he does not
just take his sister out and go looking for bigfoot
that I think that would be dangerous, and he agrees to.
But you know, he'll take some friends and his sister.
She's a lovely lady named Gabby. And so we'll see
if we can establish some patterns, and that would be
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the first step toward building a relationship through language. And
I think that would absolutely floor people if we could
do that and then present that to a conference, don't you.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
I mean, I think it would be the first I mean,
if we could establish some sort of like communic like
pattern that they could like knocking back and forth, that
would be huge. That'd be like really big.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
And I just got the biggest chill I have had
in months just thinking about this. I mean, and thank
you Bigfoot. I believe Bigfoot Mike like this idea because
you know, Bigfoot, Bigfoot's and adventurous kind of guy.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
Do you agree, Mike, Yeah, Yeah, they're very they're very intrigued.
They're they're very inquisitive. They want to know what's going on.
They like to come in and check us out, especially
when we're asleep and stuff like that. So when that's
like when I go out in the woods, I like
to try to like think of things and try to
try techniques that other people may have not tried, like
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I'll do. You know, one of my favorite techniques actually
is to take old like Britney spears CDs and put
them on like a string and hang them from a
tree and what on the on the non shine e side,
I'll put double sided tape right and uh, and I'll
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put some like I'll disturb the soil, put some soil
down or something below the below the the thing on
the ground. So what in hopes and theory, Bigfoot'll come in.
They'll see that reflecting spinning mirror be like, oh, what
the heck is that through the trees. You know that's
not something normal. He'll come in and check that out.
And I'll put like twenty of them on one tree,
(34:24):
so it's like a disco ball in the woods, right,
and and Bigfoot will come in and they'll take one
of they'll take his its hand and and grab one
of those spinning CDs just to look at it. So boom.
I got a thumb print on the shiny side of
the CD. I got hair on the double sided tape
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part of the on the back side because Bigfoot's gonna
grab it with his with his forefinger. And I got
footprints from the soils down from the soil down below
where it's gonna step to grab the CD.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
So I'm gonna stop you. You've done this.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
Before, yes, of course, multiple times. Oh my goodness.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
We got to talk.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
We gotta talk.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
And by the way, I've got some really good news
I forgot I was. You know, I've had so much
going on, I guess in my business life about working
on conferences, that I forgot that Jessica Jones and her
son Ben are gonna be with me and mister Bill
Lackey in ten days, ten eleven days, this Saturday, they
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are gonna be there. So this is gonna be this
will be a big deal if we can get some
if Bigfoot will play along with us, and I think
I think they might. That they seem like a friendly bunch.
They've never shown any signs of not being friendly and
not wanting to communicate. So anyway, we'll see what happens.
(35:52):
And they know my intent because I believe I believe
Bigfoot is psychic, psychic being, and I think they know
what I'm gonna try to do it. Maybe they'll maybe
they won't, maybe they'll be tired, but maybe they will.
So I think that would be just a kind of
a cool thing to have happened.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
Well, call it like three in the morning from John,
and it's gonna be, Like Mike, You're never gonna guess
what just happened. We got four knocks back? We got
we got six knocks backs. Imagine that.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
Yes, you had a question.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
If you take a large river rock, a stone around it,
a stone, some of them are more well, if you
bang them together, it will produce a knock that can
be heard if you if you're trying to call in squirrels,
if you're squirrel hunting, you can take two smaller stones
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and bang them together and it makes it sound like
a squirrel. But if you're to take a larger rock,
maybe a fist sized rock, and that could be away
to make those knocking sounds, and maybe you could establish
you could repeat what you hear and see if they
repeat it. That would be something. Of course you'd have
(37:10):
to lug two rocks around with you, but it might
be worth It would create a knocking sound that would
be able to penetrate woods pretty easily.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
That's a great idea, Trey.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
I'll see, yes, Mike, kind of hand hand sized rock,
bang them together, it'll it'll produce a nice knock.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
Okay, that's a great idea. We will not consider that.
We will do that and see what happens. All right, Mike,
you have one more story for us. This is fun.
This is a lot of fun.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
This is kind of fun. I enjoy this is this
is better than your traditional interview. This's great. Yeah, okay,
so we'll well, okay, we'll see where where this one
takes us. Uh. The best big foot vocalization that I
have ever recorded my entire life. I've only recorded maybe
three of them. The best one was in high Point
(38:08):
State Park and this is years ago. But there were
five people with us and we heard, we did a
I did a barn al call, and we got back
the best bigfoot vocalization. It was a series of three
bigfoot howls, and on the third hal I actually said something.
I was like, that's not a coyote, and I stepped
(38:31):
on it, so it kind of ruined the audio. But
then you could hear the coyotes in the background. But
and then you could go on the YouTube channel and
see that's not what the point is. But the point
of the story is about fifteen minutes prior to this,
all of us, all five of us, observed a UFO
in the sky going back and forth zigzagon, red steady dot.
(38:57):
And you know, if it was just me, I'd say
I'm going crazy. I know that, like that's a given.
We all know that, but five of us, I mean,
we all saw it, and we all were like, man,
that's something. And is it related to the bigfoot howl
that we heard fifteen minutes? Is that? I don't think so.
For me personally, I don't think it's close enough for
(39:17):
me to relate the two. I think it was two
different phenomenons that happened at the same, similar times, but
weren't related.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
What do you guys think, touch Trey, what do you
think that you've got a recording of this howl?
Speaker 3 (39:29):
I take it? Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
Have you considered amplifying that and broadcasting it?
Speaker 3 (39:36):
Oh? Yeah? Yeah? So the cool thing. Just a little
side note about the how we sent it. I have
a linguist from the military who does all my audio
analysts and analysis, and he came back said it was
like outside of human vocal range, no known animal from
northwest New Jerseys. That's pretty cool. And we have we've
call blasted that from the same exact area in the
(39:57):
past with no response back. We've done it multiple times
with no responses back.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
Unfortunately, because I know, you know, I've got an app
on my phone. That's the Audubon app for birds, and yeah,
you get some swifts and they were diving close to
the water and back and forth, and I couldn't they
wouldn't hold still, so I couldn't tell which one they were.
But they had calls for both of them, and I
(40:24):
played one and they didn't respond to it, and I
played the other one, and all of a sudden, the
swifts are now diving into our porch. That was the
trigger that did it. So having that it might be
if you're in a situation, you might want to just
play it loudly off of off of a speaker, a
(40:44):
Bluetooth speaker, which will get you pretty good volume. I
might be something to do. You could just store the
audio file on your phone and play it on a
Bluetooth speaker whenever you go out and you run out
of things you do on Trey.
Speaker 3 (41:01):
To be honest with you, sir, I do have some
audio on my phone that what I like to play.
My go to thing to play actually is is whale vocalizations. Yeah,
and they're they're a very low pitched howl sound, if
you will. But what what's cool about it is it's
(41:21):
amplified so much so that the humans can now hear it.
So it's low pitch, but it's amplified through the sound
system so we can hear it. And a bigfoot here.
It's such a low vibration sound. Granted it's not going
to be, you know, the same level that a bigfoot
can do. But I have gotten the best result, the
most results, I will say, from playing those whale vocalizations,
(41:42):
which is pretty intriguing.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
The bigfoot are probably saying, what the heck's a whale
doing here?
Speaker 3 (41:46):
Yeah? What is it? What's the whale doing out here?
Speaker 2 (41:50):
Who brought the whale?
Speaker 1 (41:55):
That's that's right? And uh yeah. Because I will just
say that this spot is very near a large lake,
there's no telling what the result could be. So Mike,
I might see about getting those sounds from you and
trying that when we go out, you know, not gratuitously
(42:18):
and just doing it a lot, but just once or twice.
I'll see, And I think I think Jessica would be
probably very intrigued by this, and her son Ben I
know he would be intrigued too, Guy, I know him
very well, and I think they'd be excited about this.
So we'll see what happens. Well, Mike, this has been
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just absolutely marvelous. And so you know, we've had a
good time talking about Bigfoot and some of your adventures
and wanted to say I had one other questions I
wanted to ask you, So what are you what are
you going to talk about? Maybe at the uh Myrtle
(43:01):
Beast Bigfoot Festival here in Myrtle Beach in in uh May,
what are you going to talk about?
Speaker 3 (43:09):
Well, I'm not going to give away anything. Uh two
reasons behind that. One I don't know yet and two
it's a brand new presentation that nobody has ever seen yet.
I'll leave you a cliffhanging at that.
Speaker 1 (43:26):
Okay, well, that's great.
Speaker 3 (43:27):
We are always.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
Certain, always from asking for more, Mike always you know it.
Speaker 1 (43:33):
You know it right, Doctor Trey is a professional speaker
and he's done that many times very successfully. So that's
that's a great idea in doctor Trey. I know I
am about two and a half hours away from you
here in Myrtle Beach. We hope you can come over
and meet with Mike when he comes down in May,
(43:55):
and we can and maybe we can go out on
Sunday and see if because I I have a spot
I've never told this but I have seen a bigfoot
in the Grand Strand area walking across a highway. So
I might like for us to go down to that area.
(44:17):
And no one knows if it's north or south, but
I'd like for us to go to that area and
see if we could see something. Mike, you think you
might want.
Speaker 3 (44:28):
To do that. You don't got to tempt me with
a good time?
Speaker 2 (44:32):
Okay, fine, And I'm gonna find some river rocks to
bang together.
Speaker 1 (44:37):
Yeah, that'd be great.
Speaker 3 (44:38):
We could do.
Speaker 1 (44:39):
We could do a number of things. We'll see if
they recognize us. In fact, there are two there are
two locations in this county area that I think might
really do well. One is the one where I saw
the bigfoot, and I have another area that I just
have a feeling it would be a good place to try.
(45:02):
So we'll see what we can do about that is
we prepare for your trip here to Myrtle Beach and so, Mike,
it's been a lot of fun. Do you have any
other thing that you would like to tell us about
or leave us with before we head to the hills?
Speaker 3 (45:19):
All right, one quick little, last little story, just to
leave it on a good note, because I'm in a
good mood and more well, could use a laugh work, right,
why not? So this happened in Whitehall, New York. It's
a couple of years ago. We were out investigating, me
and a pair of twins. Okay, if you ever have
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the opportunity to investigate with a pair of twins, do
not say no to it. It's an awesome experience. So
we're investigating. It's about one o'clock in the morning. We're
sitting around camp at the fire, and I get the
great idea to go on a hike. Right, So we
get to the we get to the trailhead, and we
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get there. It's about five hundred and eighty seven degrees out,
one million percent humidity, and uh we it is musquitoey
like bad, right, like bad bad. So I'm putting an
off you know, like I should be in an off
commercial at this stage in my life. Right. I throw
it to the twins and they say, no, we have
(46:23):
our own stuff. I say, oh, okay, whatever. So we
start the hike and this quickly it turns into a
hike that I don't want to do anymore. You know
those one you know, one of those hikes we've all
been there, Yep, anyways, Mosquito. Anyway, halfway through the hike,
the twins start spraying their spray and they're applying it
(46:47):
very thickly. I'm walking behind them, they're in front of me,
and it's coming back into my wafting back into my
face and my nose and my mouth, right, and it
smells and tastes horrible, liked bad bad. So anyways, uh,
I keep my composure in the name of bigfoot research, right.
But after the hike, I go out to the twins.
(47:09):
I'm like, guys, what kind of bug spray was that?
Was that? Some like all natural stuff? And they're like, what,
Like what, we didn't spray any bugspray? What are you
talking about? I'm like, well, what what did you spray?
What's the stuff you sprayed? Like, oh, the deer urine? Yes,
the deer urine. That's the time that uh got covered soaked.
Speaker 2 (47:32):
How they collected the deer urine?
Speaker 3 (47:35):
I didn't ask questions? Yeah, how the deer here?
Speaker 2 (47:37):
Can you?
Speaker 3 (47:43):
So all the name of Bigfoot, it's all fun and
games right until science with the deer urine.
Speaker 1 (47:51):
That's right. Well, that's that is a great story to
laugh and close on. So thank you very much. Mike
fall a lot from New Jersey Bigfoot Hunter par Excellence,
the keynote speaker for the Myrtle Beast Bigfoot Festival, and
Doctor Trey rune Away. As usual, you were spot on
(48:12):
and very enjoyable to have on here. I'll have you
back every week, so we will have another one next
week on Scary Cast. We're gonna try to do Tuesday
nights to keep it a very regular time, so we'll
be getting this up on our heart radio. It'll be
a lot of fun. So Mike, thanks a lot for
being with us. Absolutely, Doctor Trey, we really appreciate you
(48:36):
every week. You're great to have them on board.
Speaker 3 (48:40):
All right, good to see you again, Mike Hey, absolutely,
same tray.
Speaker 1 (48:44):
All right, John, all right, guys, take care, Bye bye
Speaker 3 (48:47):
Yeah, good night,
Good evening and live for Myrtle Beach, South Carolina. This
is doctor John Stamy and I'd like to welcome everybody
to our first after Thanksgiving episode of Scary Cast. It's
great to be here. I've got a great guest that
we've had before and my favorite co host, So tonight
(00:24):
my co host is doctor Trey done Away. He is vacationing,
but he decided to chunge them and join us tonight.
So doctor Trey, how are you doing tonight?
Speaker 2 (00:33):
I'm doing fine and how could I not join you
tonight and the first post Thanksgiving Scary Cast.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Well, I'm glad you did, and we're gonna have a
lot of fun because tonight from northwest New Jersey, we've
got a bigfoot hunter and he's a lecturer and he's
a lot of fun to talk to. So, ladies and gentlemen,
for his second appearance this year on Scary Cast, I
want to introduce Mike femelon. How are you doing?
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Just the fact that you invited me back is beyond me.
Thank you so much. I'm doing so amazing. Thank you
again for having me back. It's gonna be awesome.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Oh you're You're welcome and we'll tell more about this later,
but you're gonna be the keynote speaker for the Myrtle
Beast Bigfoot Festival and that's gonna be I believe May
the around May the tenth of next year, and that
might be the wrong date, but I don't have it
firmly implanted in my head just yet, but it's something
(01:33):
like that, and it's gonna be a blast. So we're
gonna have a lot of fun. We're gonna look at
the stars, look for UFOs and everything. So we'll talk
a little more about that at the end of the show.
So anyway, Mike, what you do is you go around.
You do kind of like a US tour every year
and you talk to lots of people about Bigfoot and
(01:55):
what you do. So tell us where you're gonna be
going in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Yeah, it's a pretty cool thing. For those of you
who haven't seen the first episode of Scary Cast, what
I do is I go around full time to libraries
and venues during the day and I speak about Bigfoot
doing my library tour. Next year's tour is called the
Do You Believe Tour, which I'm kind of excited about.
(02:21):
And during the day, I speak at libraries, and during
the evening I go around and that funds my way
to camp at state parks and national forests at night
and film my YouTube show in the Shadow of Big
Red Eye. So in twenty twenty five, we have some
awesome venues lined up. Not only did you mention Myrtle Beast,
which I am excited looking forward to in May too,
(02:43):
down in South Carolina. That's like the best time to
be down there, is it not.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Yes, it is. That's before it gets scalding hot. It's
really we really have some fairly nice weather in May.
It's warm and beautiful. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Yeah, So when you told me about that and you
asked me to come down, there's no way I wasn't
gonna say yet, you know, no to that. So there
I'm doing that. I'm going to Mississippi, which is cool.
I've only been to Mississippi one time. Up to Michigan,
basically everything east of the Mississippi I'm hitting this year.
I think we have it online up to twenty nine
(03:18):
states this year. We're planning on hitting in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
That is well, that's great. Now let me ask you this.
I run the Georgia Bigfoot Conference and you were booked
that weekend. But are you going to Georgia anytime this
next year?
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Yes, And as a matter of fact, I had just
got those dates scheduled. I will be in Georgia because
I know you got a lot of listeners from there.
Let me get to the right page here. Let's see
Lafayette Walker Library. That's I believe north west, and then
(03:57):
that will be the only appearance in in Georgia that
I have so far this year. But that's in the
Lafayette Walker County, I believe it is. Library. That's that's
up by Alabama. I think it is, So that's gonna
be really cool have a library there.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Well, that's great. Maybe we can visit with Jessica Jones
when we go over there, because she is on the border.
She's in Carrollton, Georgia, which is very near Alabama, so
maybe we can all visit with her, and I might
have a date for you. I'll I'll talk to you
about that after the show. But I might be running
a conference over there, it turns out, so we'll we'll
(04:36):
see if all of that can work out. But it's
always a lot of fun to be with you. I
met you at what was the name of that place?
It was in Hamlet, North Carolina, And I never can
remember the name of that conference in Counterquest.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
How can you not remember?
Speaker 1 (04:52):
I don't know. I have a bunch of I have
a bunch of things in my head. But yeah, Now
have they scared scheduled in Counterquest this year or has
it been put on hold?
Speaker 3 (05:04):
I've been trying to look into it. I haven't been
able to get in contact with anybody, so I believe
it's the It's on the DL for now as far
as I can tell. So it's not on my calendar.
I know that much.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Okay, well maybe you and I'll do something about that.
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Yeah, anyway, it was fun.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
I mean, it was good to see my friends Ron
Moorehead and his crew. They were there and so we
just had a grand time. I just had a really
grand time over there at n't counter Quest. So anyway,
now let's go to the important part. You are a
bigfoot explorer and we're excited to have you here, especially
(05:43):
for that in fact that you're going to be at
one of my bigfoot conferences. So I've asked you to
prepare a couple of stories that you've had about bigfoots.
So you're going to tell the stories, and I'm gonna
have doctor Trey ask you questions about your stories because
I thought that would be fun tonight. You all up
(06:04):
that doctor Tray.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
That sounds good before we begin this. Lafayette, Alabama? Is
it in Alabama?
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Georgia?
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Georgia? Is it adjacent to the area of opal Aka, Alabama?
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Uh? You're I think you just sneezed. It's in Walker County, Georgia.
Does that? Is that a better better?
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Sure?
Speaker 2 (06:29):
I'm not sure. But if it's near opa Likah, Alabama,
and it's that would be in the upper right the
northeastern area of Alabama before you get into Georgia.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Okay? Is that Yeah, that's exactly where I'll be staying in. Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
I did my endoscyby training in Opelaika, which is near there.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
And the the fella that was thessistant in the GI lab,
he pronounced Lafayette Lafayette. Oh, so to hear someone referring
to Lafayette, it is indeed Lafayette. Just a little travel
tip for you on your way.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Do you remember how the locals pronounce it? Because I'm
always trying to be when I go down there, I
always want to be in the inn.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
I don't know if he was a local, but he
and he called it Lafayette and I was trying to
figure out and it was it was Lafayette, So gotcha,
So be prepared for either pronunciation.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
I'll be on standby, all right, Verry Good.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
And one other thing that I would like to mention
about Alabama. I would like to say that Kevin Holland
of The Walking Dead and I are putting together a
conference and we'll we'll check the date out with you, Mike,
but we're putting together a conference. It's near Coleman, Alabama,
(08:04):
and I've got some friends, that's some paranormal friends there
and we're going to see if we can round them
up and have a really grand time. That'll probably be
in the middle of the summer, but well, i'll check
that out with you, see if you're going to be
around that area. But I like Alabama and I always
enjoy going there and meeting with the people there. They're
always fun and they're always excited about what we're doing.
(08:27):
And in fact, I've got a lecturer coming. He's a
UFO lecturer coming to my January eleventh. I'm slow because
I'm trying to remember the exact days. We're going to
have a conference in Blue Ridge, Georgia, and it's going
to be a lot of fun. And he's coming from
(08:49):
that area of Alabama as well, so we're getting some
good friends and good contacts over there in Alabama. So
we'll see what we can do. All right, sir, the
floor is yours. Mike fam a lot. Tell us some
Bigfoot stories.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
All right, Well, it's I think I already told y'all
my first encounter story where I had the rocks thrown
at me in Florida, So I'm not going to tell
that one again because I don't want your listeners to
get bored. So I figured, what other cool stories do
we have similar to the rock throwing, because I find
rock throwing very intriguing. One specific incident I was with
(09:27):
I believe it was four or five other people, and
we were on a bigfoot expedition and I brought them
into my area that I always go to, and we
hiked a mile back into this wilderness area where there's
been three or four bigfoot sightings in the past, and
it was about I don't know. Midnight, we walked in
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mile down. We all were sitting on this down tree
facing the swamp where we thought all the food animals
and prey were gonna be in the swamp, you know,
the deer, the frogs, everything. So we figured that's where
Bigfoot is going to be in eating these animals about
this time of night. So anyways, we uh, we start.
(10:10):
We sit there and we're in silence for about a
half hour and nothing. I mean, it's so loud, you know,
the things that all of a sudden we start. I
was like, listen it that we got to get going.
This is getting a little boring. When I get bored,
I get kind of impatient, and it's not fun for
me anymore. So it's like, let's do something fun. Let's
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hike or something. So anyways, we start talking. All the
animals go quiet, which I could imagine they started, you know,
you know, getting loud as we quieted up. But anyways,
started talking to get quiet. All of a sudden, come
crashing you hear, rolling through the through the forest. Uh,
this rock and it's it rolls through. I was sitting
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right next to my friend Heather, and it rolled in
between our legs and it was maybe it wasn't soccer,
maybe like softball size, if you would, like you know, softball,
and it rolled and we we all immediately we were
all facing the swamp. We all immediately turned around. We
had thermal imaging cameras. None of us saw anything, right,
(11:15):
it was like, what that That's kind of strange, you know,
it had to came from right behind us. There was
a hill behind us, right, so we were looking kind
of up towards the hill nothing, didn't see anything. But
then we looked down and thermed the rock and it
was ambiently hotter than all the other rocks that were around.
So I think that was super cool because that means
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something I think had transferred its body heat to that
rock was holding that rock for some length of time.
Isn't that so cool? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (11:47):
That's pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
It really is. Now just real quickly, what state was
this in? New Jersey?
Speaker 3 (11:54):
This is Morris County, New Jersey. Yeah, okay, so almost
my back yard. I've been doing solid research there for
since I've been into bigfoot research, so so fifteen years now,
fourteen years and it's the only other time that location
is the only other time that I've actually started a hike.
(12:15):
I went in, started the hike, and I got dropped
off at the trailhead. It's a one way hike, and
I made it about a quarter mile in. And I
had did this hike hundreds of times. I could have
done it upside down, backwards, daytime, nighttime, you name it.
This was nighttime by myself. When a quarter of a
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mile I felt like I got hit by a brick wall,
Like I walked into like this wall, and I just
I physically couldn't go any further. Every hair stood up
on my body, and I was like, oh my god,
something does not want me here, Like this is not good.
So I looked around and I saw this tree break
that was not there. I was on this trail like
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two weeks. Was not there. It was right on the pathway,
and I was like, man, I called my buddy up.
I said, man, you got to come back and pick
me up because I meet me at the trailhead. It
was the only hike that I've never finished, and that
was on the same trail that this happened on. So
I don't know, man, It's something crazy going on, all.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Right, Doctor Trey, what do you think A couple of thoughts.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Has anyone is there any data on what the body
temperature of a bigfoot is?
Speaker 3 (13:31):
I couldn't imagine. No, no, no, I I know.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
And this ambient heat that was left over in uh,
the ambient temperature that was left over in the rock.
Have you ever seen a rock with that type of
temperature profile?
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Oh, rocks glow hot all the time. But what was
super interesting is they were all glowing, but this one
was substantially twenty degrees hotter than the rest of the
rocks that were around. So that's that that that's either
the rock composition was different of a type of rock,
or the sun was on that rock longer, or something
else happened to it.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
And what time of the day was this?
Speaker 3 (14:12):
This is probably about twelve thirty at night.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Well, I tell you, I mean, even if it was
heated up during the day, I think by twelve thirty
at night, it would be the same temperature as most
of the other rocks around.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
I wonder how long it would you'd have to hold
a rock to get the temperature up substantially differently than
everywhere else.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
That's a very good question. That's a good that's a
good test rock.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
And then chucks it. It's not going to be terribly warm,
but if they hold it for a while, then then
it might be warm. Interesting experiment. Well anyway, those are
those are my thoughts with the rock And when have
you found Bigfoot on a heat signature before with you're scanning?
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Yes, I to once and I didn't. It was weird.
It was in high Point State Park in New Jersey.
I was out there during the day solo, and I
was on this gas line, which I believe that Bigfoot
follow gas lines and power lines kind of like we
as humans follow highways. It makes sense there's a lot
of food along them. But anyways, I was. I was
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video recording with my normal camera and therming at the
same time. Don't ask me why. Somebody, one of my
old friends who has since passed away, was like, hey,
you should just therm during the day for the heck
of it, and I'm I was like, I guess not.
Why not? It's you know, it's not gonna hurt anything.
So I'm thermin and I'm looking through the therm and
I'm videotaping at the same time, and I see this
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figure move from from my thermal screen from right to
left and it's very ambiguous. It could be anything. It doesn't.
It's so it's far away, but it's something moving and
it has some hike behind it. And I'm like, oh man,
you know it was crazy. So went back redid everything.
The next day we did a recreation. We couldn't come
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up with the right height profile, but it was very strange.
Anybody can if you want to go to my YouTube
YouTube at shadow re at eye and you can check
out thermal setting in high point and see whatever you
guys think it is and let me know.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Well, it's intriguing using thermal imaging because if you could
standardize some of it, well, I guess it just does
the thermal imaging give you a specific imaging depending on
temperature or is it relative to everything else you're looking at.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
It depends on the thermal you have. Some are heat sensitive,
meaning it shows you the heat. Like if ninety degrees
will be one color, one hundred degrees will be another color.
My thermal is the opposite where it's it's a relative
to the other heat around. So like if you look
at the sky, the trees will be bright like glowing
hot red because the sky is obviously cold, right right, Okay, interesting.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
M Yeah, the great great questions, Doctor Trey and really
really good story, Mike. I mean that's why I like
having you here is because you've got a lot of
practical experience with the big guy out in the woods
and trying to find him. I think you found him,
and don't you don't you find it very interesting? He
was able to roll that rock right up to your feet.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Oh man, right between right between us and and I.
When I when I first got into big footing back
in Florida, I had rocks thrown at me. And the
biggest thing to note about that encounter was that the
rocks did not hit me. They they they landed very
close and the same in this incident where we were
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all with a rock roll next to us, didn't hit us.
I think if Bigfoot wanted to hurt a person or
people that they could. However, inherently they choose not to
for some reason.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
That's their their territory.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Vockyball Bigfoot.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Well, that's great, that's great, all right, Mike, come up
with another story. I'd like to have two more stories
from you, if you don't mind. These are a lot
of fun.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
All right, Let's see, Uh One theory that I have
and that I've noticed. Actually it's not my theory. I
adapted it from one of my friends, so I can't
say it's my theory and I can't take credit for it,
but his theory, and I've I've adapted it and I've
I've noticed it whenever I go into the woods. Now
is tree knocks which are intriguing. Nobody has ever seen
a bigfoot knock on a tree, So why do we
(18:44):
assume that tree knocks are from bigfoot? That's a question
for you guys. Is that any idea like what I
don't I don't know. I mean, I don't think anything
else besides a human can knock on a tree, that
that could be a thing. But there's other birds, there's woodpeckers, right,
bears knocking over trees, I mean, animals knocking over trees.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Well, do trees make a knocking sound in and of themselves?
If one side is heated up? Does does a tree
expand or contract? And perhaps for sure may sound I don't.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Know, Yeah, yeah, definitely, definitely in the wintertime. I've walked
through the woods and even without the trees hitting together,
they pop for sure. But anyway, so there's there is
a difference. However, when you hear distinctive patternized knocking sounds.
There's a difference when you hear one random tree knock
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versus a knock knock knock. That's different to me. Right,
So when I go into the woods and I and
I do have the the honor that you know, the
being the blessed with hearing these tree knocks, it really
depends on however many knocks I hear represents how many
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people that I have in the group that I'm bring
out into the woods. And people don't you know. And
when I say that, people are like, oh my god,
that's that's happened to me before. But like when I'm solo,
I hear single knocks. When I bring two people out,
I hear two knocks, four people bam bam, bam bam.
And I think that's a bigfoot's way, a bigfoot's method
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of telling other bigfoot in the area, Hey, there's this
many things that are not normal that are coming into
our little home area, so be aware or get out
of the area or heads up type of deal, kind
of like their alert method like other animals have.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Now, that's great, I would like to make an observation
on something that happened to me in the woods about
two months ago in Raeven County, Georgia. I was out
with mister Bill Lackey. He's a good friend of mine.
He's ninety three years young. He goes out in the
woods with the best of them. And I will share
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a story that's exactly like what you said. We were
in a cemetery. We had our dowsing rods with us.
We were doing stuff with our dowsing rods, and all
of a sudden I heard two knocks. I mean they
were very very distinct two knocks. There were two of us,
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and then we just kept on doing what we were doing.
And then I heard four knocks, and I stepped to
the edge of the cemetery and I said, well, hello,
I'm doctor John Stami and I'm here with mister Bill. Now,
mister Bill lives up on top of the hill in
that white house. He's a really nice guy. And if
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you ever have a chance to help him or watch
him to make sure he's okay, please do and thank you.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
We won't be here very long.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
And that is exactly the statement that I made to
the woods. Assuming the Bigfoot was going to hear it,
and then we heard just a whole bunch of knocks
like they were laughing, And I mean, that is something
that is etched in my memory. And that's why I'm
going back to see him next weekend, not this coming weekend,
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but the next weekend, and we're going to go back
out in the woods and we're gonna see what kind
of fun we're gonna have. But what do you think
the two knocks would obviously have been me and mister Bill,
what would the four knocks have been? What do you
hypothesize on that?
Speaker 3 (22:41):
What were you trying? Okay, now this goes this kind
of this is thrown it out in left field. But
what were you drewing with the dowsing rods? Were you
trying to call spirits or trying to find something or.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Okay, mister Bill said that when you use dowsing rods
over Civil War graves that are like before eight teen
sixty five, they go crazy, they do a lot of
moving around, but if they are newer graves, they don't
do anything. And he showed that to me, So that's
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that was kind of the experiment that we were doing.
They are about twenty five graves in that smallish graveyard,
and we were taking our dowsing rods, both of us,
putting them over each grave and seeing, you know, the
ones that seemed to be from prior to the Civil War.
We were getting action and we weren't getting any action
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from the newer ones. Whatever that means.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
John, And you had your dowsing rods, did you have
one in each hand?
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (23:45):
I did.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Well, maybe maybe it was two knocks meaning they're two
guys here, and then there are four knocks meaning and
between both of them they have four dowsing rods.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
That could be that could be could be, but there.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Was no qualifier for a human or dowsing rod or
anything else.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
And then I think all the knocks after that work.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
We're probably laughter out here. And then he said four.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
That's just intriguing to me. Uh, And maybe it was
the it, you know. I think Bigfoot is capable of
picking up on energy that we can't pick ups as people,
So I like, like, for example, I think Bigfoot has
the capabilities of seeing the energy that trail cameras can
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admit and produce. That's why there's no good pictures of
trail camera or Bigfoot on trail cameras. I just think
he avoids them because they can see what they emit.
So I think with it, maybe with the dowsing rods,
there's this energy that can be admitted. I have no
clue whatsoever, but that Bigfoot may be able to pick
up on I don't know. It's it's intriguing.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Interesting.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
I agree. I mean, I've always heard and Jessica Jones
is a big one on this, that Bigfoot's a lot
smarter than we are. So they were just doing what
they were doing. And when we go out there, we
might have three people. Ray Basquet from Gainesville, Georgia, he's
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a very good friend of mine, and he might come
out with us, and he might bring his son, which
would be four people. And we'll see if we get
four knocks, and then whatever we get, and then I
will make a statement directly to the woods and just
see how it goes. I mean, it would be good.
(25:48):
It's always good to collect data, and this would be
some very interesting data. This would be two data, you know,
two points, one two months ago and one in about
a week and a half. So I'll let you know,
Mike and doctor tre what we get. And that is
a pattern of communication and that's something that I am
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very interested in, is the design of communication and how
do people communicate with each other? And so we will
see I will give kind of a pleasant and maybe
humorous little talk when I step out, you know, to
the end of the of the graveyard, and just see
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what happens.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
So we don't know, walk in and you hear four knocks,
you can you can ask when you talk, if one
of us were to leave, how many knocks.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Would you give us? And see if you get three?
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Well, now that's a good point to talk directly to
them and ask them a question that would be Mike,
have you ever heard of any type of back and
forth communication like that between humans and bigfoot?
Speaker 3 (27:01):
The only times I've had any experience with speaking to
witness I've never experienced anything like that. But any witnesses
about that is like long term, after long term habituation
things over years, Bigfoot will start communicating back and forth,
either by leaving gifts or something like that, or by
you know, even communicating verbally or not verbally, but you know,
(27:24):
speaking back and forth to to people. I've heard Bigfoot
like over after years of hearing people, they mimic their
their voices actually uh, and and I have a good
friend that that experienced that, and that's just I mean
that that just goes to show you the you were
talking about the design of communication, right that the language
(27:44):
of Bigfoot, if you will, but also the the just uh,
the level of intelligence that Bigfoot has to have to
be able to do that has got to be crazy.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
I think that would be a marvelous thing. And from
what I know, Bigfoot can pick up on He's probably
aware of what we're talking about, because I believe there
are two clans of Bigfoot over there in that area
near Clayton, Georgia. And we'll see if Bigfoot, what's the word,
(28:23):
If Bigfoot goes along with what I'm trying to do,
we'll see and we'll let you know, we'll have you
on the show. And I think that would be a
grand thing because they they have experienced me and known
me for about five years. They know and I've talked
to them, and you know, when I'm just standing there
and I'm looking in the woods and I talk to
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them and I say, well, you know, I run the
Georgia Bigfoot Conference. We love doing it, and you know,
I just that may be crazy, but that's what I do,
and I talk to them, and so I have had
interesting experiences. When they slammed against the bed and breakfast
cabin that I was in, it was terrifying. It was
(29:06):
absolutely terrifying. And I could hear them prowling around. Sorry, Bigfoot,
it was a little bit of a prowl. I heard
you prowling around the little cabin, and I knew that
that door wasn't gonna hold if you wanted to get in,
And then Bigfoot was stepping around it, and it just
seemed the noise seemed to stop. And I just cut
(29:27):
off that light in the cabin and sat back in
that feud time that was in there, and I guess
I just passed out, went to sleep I wanted to,
and I woke up at three. There were no sounds
in the woods when all that was going on. But
when I woke up about three in the morning, the
birds were chirping, the animals were making sounds, and so Bigfoot,
(29:52):
that was some communication. And I think that's something that
we ought to. You know, maybe if you have some
memories or something thing, you ought to jot them down,
and I'll jot them down. We might put a little
paper together Mike, I think that would be very interesting
to talk about when we go to Myrtle Beach, don't you.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Yeah, yeah, if we can compare notes on and get
my big thing and I think he kind of touched
on it before, is patterns. If we can find patterns
of bigfoot, then we can learn more about this species.
And once we learn more about the species, we can
learn more about what they do, and we could predict
their actions. And once we can predict what they do,
we can find these things a lot easier than just
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kind of what we're doing now, and that's just going
in the woods and hoping really well.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
You know, I don't think I don't think we're trying
to find them in a malicious.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
Sense, No, no, no, But.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
I think that establishing some communication, if they respond similarly,
if we have four people, then I'm going to tell
you that shows intelligence. That is called the Turing test
after Alan Turing, Theuter scientists. That's the advantage of being
a computer scientist. We have AI artificial intelligence, and that
(31:07):
is one of his tests for intelligence is if you
can tell a pattern based on what is asked. So
this this can lead to all sorts of really great,
great revelations.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Is you know, it's hard to figure out what is
what to call this stuff? Yeah? Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
And and and then if we could show that across
the country even more, you know, widespread than just two accounts,
meaning between you and I, if we could get more
people on boards that oh yeah, I've documented that as well.
Then I mean we're onto something bigger and better things.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Like I like to say, right now, I've got some
friends up Nearland between the Lakes and Kentucky and northern Tennessee,
and I know Elijah Henderson very well, and I will
talk to I will talk to him about this before
we go out and let him know what we're trying
to do. This is the kind of thing that he
would I can speak for him on this. He would
love to do this with us, at least up there
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when he is out with his sister and the two
guys that he goes out of. Now, he does not
just take his sister out and go looking for bigfoot
that I think that would be dangerous, and he agrees to.
But you know, he'll take some friends and his sister.
She's a lovely lady named Gabby. And so we'll see
if we can establish some patterns, and that would be
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the first step toward building a relationship through language. And
I think that would absolutely floor people if we could
do that and then present that to a conference, don't you.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
I mean, I think it would be the first I mean,
if we could establish some sort of like communic like
pattern that they could like knocking back and forth, that
would be huge. That'd be like really big.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
And I just got the biggest chill I have had
in months just thinking about this. I mean, and thank
you Bigfoot. I believe Bigfoot Mike like this idea because
you know, Bigfoot, Bigfoot's and adventurous kind of guy.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
Do you agree, Mike, Yeah, Yeah, they're very they're very intrigued.
They're they're very inquisitive. They want to know what's going on.
They like to come in and check us out, especially
when we're asleep and stuff like that. So when that's
like when I go out in the woods, I like
to try to like think of things and try to
try techniques that other people may have not tried, like
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I'll do. You know, one of my favorite techniques actually
is to take old like Britney spears CDs and put
them on like a string and hang them from a
tree and what on the on the non shine e side,
I'll put double sided tape right and uh, and I'll
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put some like I'll disturb the soil, put some soil
down or something below the below the the thing on
the ground. So what in hopes and theory, Bigfoot'll come in.
They'll see that reflecting spinning mirror be like, oh, what
the heck is that through the trees. You know that's
not something normal. He'll come in and check that out.
And I'll put like twenty of them on one tree,
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so it's like a disco ball in the woods, right,
and and Bigfoot will come in and they'll take one
of they'll take his its hand and and grab one
of those spinning CDs just to look at it. So boom.
I got a thumb print on the shiny side of
the CD. I got hair on the double sided tape
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part of the on the back side because Bigfoot's gonna
grab it with his with his forefinger. And I got
footprints from the soils down from the soil down below
where it's gonna step to grab the CD.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
So I'm gonna stop you. You've done this.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
Before, yes, of course, multiple times. Oh my goodness.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
We got to talk.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
We gotta talk.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
And by the way, I've got some really good news
I forgot I was. You know, I've had so much
going on, I guess in my business life about working
on conferences, that I forgot that Jessica Jones and her
son Ben are gonna be with me and mister Bill
Lackey in ten days, ten eleven days, this Saturday, they
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are gonna be there. So this is gonna be this
will be a big deal if we can get some
if Bigfoot will play along with us, and I think
I think they might. That they seem like a friendly bunch.
They've never shown any signs of not being friendly and
not wanting to communicate. So anyway, we'll see what happens.
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And they know my intent because I believe I believe
Bigfoot is psychic, psychic being, and I think they know
what I'm gonna try to do it. Maybe they'll maybe
they won't, maybe they'll be tired, but maybe they will.
So I think that would be just a kind of
a cool thing to have happened.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
Well, call it like three in the morning from John,
and it's gonna be, Like Mike, You're never gonna guess
what just happened. We got four knocks back? We got
we got six knocks backs. Imagine that.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
Yes, you had a question.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
If you take a large river rock, a stone around it,
a stone, some of them are more well, if you
bang them together, it will produce a knock that can
be heard if you if you're trying to call in squirrels,
if you're squirrel hunting, you can take two smaller stones
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and bang them together and it makes it sound like
a squirrel. But if you're to take a larger rock,
maybe a fist sized rock, and that could be away
to make those knocking sounds, and maybe you could establish
you could repeat what you hear and see if they
repeat it. That would be something. Of course you'd have
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to lug two rocks around with you, but it might
be worth It would create a knocking sound that would
be able to penetrate woods pretty easily.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
That's a great idea, Trey.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
I'll see, yes, Mike, kind of hand hand sized rock,
bang them together, it'll it'll produce a nice knock.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
Okay, that's a great idea. We will not consider that.
We will do that and see what happens. All right, Mike,
you have one more story for us. This is fun.
This is a lot of fun.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
This is kind of fun. I enjoy this is this
is better than your traditional interview. This's great. Yeah, okay,
so we'll well, okay, we'll see where where this one
takes us. Uh. The best big foot vocalization that I
have ever recorded my entire life. I've only recorded maybe
three of them. The best one was in high Point
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State Park and this is years ago. But there were
five people with us and we heard, we did a
I did a barn al call, and we got back
the best bigfoot vocalization. It was a series of three
bigfoot howls, and on the third hal I actually said something.
I was like, that's not a coyote, and I stepped
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on it, so it kind of ruined the audio. But
then you could hear the coyotes in the background. But
and then you could go on the YouTube channel and
see that's not what the point is. But the point
of the story is about fifteen minutes prior to this,
all of us, all five of us, observed a UFO
in the sky going back and forth zigzagon, red steady dot.
(38:57):
And you know, if it was just me, I'd say
I'm going crazy. I know that, like that's a given.
We all know that, but five of us, I mean,
we all saw it, and we all were like, man,
that's something. And is it related to the bigfoot howl
that we heard fifteen minutes? Is that? I don't think so.
For me personally, I don't think it's close enough for
(39:17):
me to relate the two. I think it was two
different phenomenons that happened at the same, similar times, but
weren't related.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
What do you guys think, touch Trey, what do you
think that you've got a recording of this howl?
Speaker 3 (39:29):
I take it? Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
Have you considered amplifying that and broadcasting it?
Speaker 3 (39:36):
Oh? Yeah? Yeah? So the cool thing. Just a little
side note about the how we sent it. I have
a linguist from the military who does all my audio
analysts and analysis, and he came back said it was
like outside of human vocal range, no known animal from
northwest New Jerseys. That's pretty cool. And we have we've
call blasted that from the same exact area in the
(39:57):
past with no response back. We've done it multiple times
with no responses back.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
Unfortunately, because I know, you know, I've got an app
on my phone. That's the Audubon app for birds, and yeah,
you get some swifts and they were diving close to
the water and back and forth, and I couldn't they
wouldn't hold still, so I couldn't tell which one they were.
But they had calls for both of them, and I
(40:24):
played one and they didn't respond to it, and I
played the other one, and all of a sudden, the
swifts are now diving into our porch. That was the
trigger that did it. So having that it might be
if you're in a situation, you might want to just
play it loudly off of off of a speaker, a
(40:44):
Bluetooth speaker, which will get you pretty good volume. I
might be something to do. You could just store the
audio file on your phone and play it on a
Bluetooth speaker whenever you go out and you run out
of things you do on Trey.
Speaker 3 (41:01):
To be honest with you, sir, I do have some
audio on my phone that what I like to play.
My go to thing to play actually is is whale vocalizations. Yeah,
and they're they're a very low pitched howl sound, if
you will. But what what's cool about it is it's
(41:21):
amplified so much so that the humans can now hear it.
So it's low pitch, but it's amplified through the sound
system so we can hear it. And a bigfoot here.
It's such a low vibration sound. Granted it's not going
to be, you know, the same level that a bigfoot
can do. But I have gotten the best result, the
most results, I will say, from playing those whale vocalizations,
(41:42):
which is pretty intriguing.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
The bigfoot are probably saying, what the heck's a whale
doing here?
Speaker 3 (41:46):
Yeah? What is it? What's the whale doing out here?
Speaker 2 (41:50):
Who brought the whale?
Speaker 1 (41:55):
That's that's right? And uh yeah. Because I will just
say that this spot is very near a large lake,
there's no telling what the result could be. So Mike,
I might see about getting those sounds from you and
trying that when we go out, you know, not gratuitously
(42:18):
and just doing it a lot, but just once or twice.
I'll see, And I think I think Jessica would be
probably very intrigued by this, and her son Ben I
know he would be intrigued too, Guy, I know him
very well, and I think they'd be excited about this.
So we'll see what happens. Well, Mike, this has been
(42:40):
just absolutely marvelous. And so you know, we've had a
good time talking about Bigfoot and some of your adventures
and wanted to say I had one other questions I
wanted to ask you, So what are you what are
you going to talk about? Maybe at the uh Myrtle
(43:01):
Beast Bigfoot Festival here in Myrtle Beach in in uh May,
what are you going to talk about?
Speaker 3 (43:09):
Well, I'm not going to give away anything. Uh two
reasons behind that. One I don't know yet and two
it's a brand new presentation that nobody has ever seen yet.
I'll leave you a cliffhanging at that.
Speaker 1 (43:26):
Okay, well, that's great.
Speaker 3 (43:27):
We are always.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
Certain, always from asking for more, Mike always you know it.
Speaker 1 (43:33):
You know it right, Doctor Trey is a professional speaker
and he's done that many times very successfully. So that's
that's a great idea in doctor Trey. I know I
am about two and a half hours away from you
here in Myrtle Beach. We hope you can come over
and meet with Mike when he comes down in May,
(43:55):
and we can and maybe we can go out on
Sunday and see if because I I have a spot
I've never told this but I have seen a bigfoot
in the Grand Strand area walking across a highway. So
I might like for us to go down to that area.
(44:17):
And no one knows if it's north or south, but
I'd like for us to go to that area and
see if we could see something. Mike, you think you
might want.
Speaker 3 (44:28):
To do that. You don't got to tempt me with
a good time?
Speaker 2 (44:32):
Okay, fine, And I'm gonna find some river rocks to
bang together.
Speaker 1 (44:37):
Yeah, that'd be great.
Speaker 3 (44:38):
We could do.
Speaker 1 (44:39):
We could do a number of things. We'll see if
they recognize us. In fact, there are two there are
two locations in this county area that I think might
really do well. One is the one where I saw
the bigfoot, and I have another area that I just
have a feeling it would be a good place to try.
(45:02):
So we'll see what we can do about that is
we prepare for your trip here to Myrtle Beach and so, Mike,
it's been a lot of fun. Do you have any
other thing that you would like to tell us about
or leave us with before we head to the hills?
Speaker 3 (45:19):
All right, one quick little, last little story, just to
leave it on a good note, because I'm in a
good mood and more well, could use a laugh work, right,
why not? So this happened in Whitehall, New York. It's
a couple of years ago. We were out investigating, me
and a pair of twins. Okay, if you ever have
(45:39):
the opportunity to investigate with a pair of twins, do
not say no to it. It's an awesome experience. So
we're investigating. It's about one o'clock in the morning. We're
sitting around camp at the fire, and I get the
great idea to go on a hike. Right, So we
get to the we get to the trailhead, and we
(46:01):
get there. It's about five hundred and eighty seven degrees out,
one million percent humidity, and uh we it is musquitoey
like bad, right, like bad bad. So I'm putting an
off you know, like I should be in an off
commercial at this stage in my life. Right. I throw
it to the twins and they say, no, we have
(46:23):
our own stuff. I say, oh, okay, whatever. So we
start the hike and this quickly it turns into a
hike that I don't want to do anymore. You know
those one you know, one of those hikes we've all
been there, Yep, anyways, Mosquito. Anyway, halfway through the hike,
the twins start spraying their spray and they're applying it
(46:47):
very thickly. I'm walking behind them, they're in front of me,
and it's coming back into my wafting back into my
face and my nose and my mouth, right, and it
smells and tastes horrible, liked bad bad. So anyways, uh,
I keep my composure in the name of bigfoot research, right.
But after the hike, I go out to the twins.
(47:09):
I'm like, guys, what kind of bug spray was that?
Was that? Some like all natural stuff? And they're like, what,
Like what, we didn't spray any bugspray? What are you
talking about? I'm like, well, what what did you spray?
What's the stuff you sprayed? Like, oh, the deer urine? Yes,
the deer urine. That's the time that uh got covered soaked.
Speaker 2 (47:32):
How they collected the deer urine?
Speaker 3 (47:35):
I didn't ask questions? Yeah, how the deer here?
Speaker 2 (47:37):
Can you?
Speaker 3 (47:43):
So all the name of Bigfoot, it's all fun and
games right until science with the deer urine.
Speaker 1 (47:51):
That's right. Well, that's that is a great story to
laugh and close on. So thank you very much. Mike
fall a lot from New Jersey Bigfoot Hunter par Excellence,
the keynote speaker for the Myrtle Beast Bigfoot Festival, and
Doctor Trey rune Away. As usual, you were spot on
(48:12):
and very enjoyable to have on here. I'll have you
back every week, so we will have another one next
week on Scary Cast. We're gonna try to do Tuesday
nights to keep it a very regular time, so we'll
be getting this up on our heart radio. It'll be
a lot of fun. So Mike, thanks a lot for
being with us. Absolutely, Doctor Trey, we really appreciate you
(48:36):
every week. You're great to have them on board.
Speaker 3 (48:40):
All right, good to see you again, Mike Hey, absolutely,
same tray.
Speaker 1 (48:44):
All right, John, all right, guys, take care, Bye bye
Speaker 3 (48:47):
Yeah, good night,
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