February 14, 2025 • 56 mins
ScaryCast presents an intervew with STACY BROWN, internationally known Bigfoot Explorer. Dr. John Stamey and Dr. Tray Dunaway host.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Good evening and live from Myrtle Beach, South Carolina. This
is doctor John Stamy saying, welcome to Scary Cast. We've
got a great show. It's going to be exciting tonight.
I've got one of my best co hosts ever, doctor
Trey done away from Camden, South Carolina. How are you
doing tonight, doctor Trey?
Speaker 2 (00:21):
It was John on this rainy, chilly South Carolina winter weather.
Winter weather being about forty but it's a good day.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
But hey, forty degrees, it is nice to have a
little cool weather before we have this nice hot stuff
that I love so much. Well, it's great to have
you here. And tonight we've got an experienced bigfoot explorer.
He's become a little bit famous, and I use that lightly.
He has become quite well known in the bigfoot world
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or some of the things that he has done. So
tonight from oh Crawfordsville, Florida, I'm pleased to introduce the
one and only Stacy Brown. How you doing tonight, Stacy?
Speaker 3 (01:05):
I'm doing all right, guys. How are y'all go right?
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Yeah, I'm fine. We're glad to have you here and
we're gonna have a lot of fun. Now you are well,
pretty well known as a bigfoot explorer. How long have
you been out looking for bigfoot? And I think you've
found bigfoot. We'll talk about that here in just a minute.
But how long have you been in the hunt for Bigfoot?
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Since? About November of twenty eleven. So I have my
first encounter then, and it absolutely changed my life for
the better. You know, I was in a rock band
back then, so I was doing rock and roll things,
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and you know, having a bigfoot encounter, I quit. I
gave everything up and just you know, went went for
the chase because in my mind, I was gonna be
the one that proved this. How silly was I?
Speaker 1 (02:12):
You know, well, you I don't think you were. I
know that I had my first big experience when I
was eating a Saturday lunch and I saw Bigfoot walk
by the window and I didn't know what to do,
but I jumped up and went ran outside and Bigfoot
wasn't there, But I know what I saw, and you
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know what you saw, don't you.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Yeah, you know at the end of the day, when
I go to bed at night, that moment where you're
trying to fall asleep and all the thoughts are racing
through your head. Bigfoot's real is one of those thoughts
because that every night I think about it every single
night since this happened.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Well, that that is great. You had a very celebrated
Bigfoot encounter that you took some photography of and I
think it was thermal imaging, and that was with your
dad out in a campground in Florida. Would you tell
us a little bit about that story because that's something
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that I know our listeners would really love to hear.
And it was that footage was on Finding Bigfoot, the
most amazing show about Bigfoot it ever came on television.
So please tell us that story. We want to hear it.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Yeah for sure. Yeah, before I get into it, Finding Bigfoot,
we were doing that, but we almost didn't do that
because my dad was like, no, I don't want to
be on TV. So but anyway, So it was Tuesday,
May eighth, twenty twelve, and I was working. My dad
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called me up about two o'clock and was like, Yo,
you want to go camping tonight. Now he had had
cancer and he had been cancer free for a few months.
Healed up from the surgery and stuff, and I wanted
to get back out the You know, hanging out and
spending time. So he asked me if I wanted to
go camping. I was like, sure, just grab my stuff
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from the house and come by and get me. At
the time, I had all my stuff in a tote
right there by the front door, right so because I
was going all the time and I always had my
stuff just ready to go. But he came by picked
me up. We rode out the terral, which is about
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an hour and thirty minutes away from the house, and
we stayed down in the Rock Creek campground, which is
about a mile downhill from the parking lot, and there's
a beautiful creek that runs through the campground and stuff.
And it had rained that day, you know, just kind
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of drizzled all day long and it made the ground
so the leaves didn't crunch, and so we were out
there just listening to music and cooking some ribs. We
started hearing knocks. I was telling my dad, you know, hey,
that's then we need to go look for him. And
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my dad didn't believe in him. My dad's was a
retired Army ranger and he thought Bigfoot was cool and
he believed me, but he was still kind of skeptical,
so it took some convincing. Over about an hour and
a half two hours, we kept hearing knocks, and he
finally said, if we hear another one, we'll go out
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there and look for him. And as soon as that
came out of his mouth, there was like a grunt
and a knock. It was like, oh right, and like
it really gave it it tall and I looked at him.
His eyes got big, and I'm like, that's it. Let's go.
And so we cranked the music up on the radio
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I had, and the cicadas were super loud that night,
so getting the footage was more or less like the
perfect storm, right. Everything lined up in rained so the
leaves didn't crunch, the cicadas were super loud, and it
was dark. I mean you could not see your hand
in front of your face. And so I had a
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little sony handicam and he had a thermal and he
turned it to black hot, because on black hot, the
trail being kind of sunken in like that, appeared white, right,
And we're really worried about snake. So he was watching
the ground and as we're walking away from the camp,
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we're hearing stuff to our right running, you know, and
then hearing stuff to our left running or figured it
was deer. We couldn't see nothing the palmeadows this time
of year, you know, spring was really into effect at
that point, and the palmettos were over our heads. So
I'm kind of holding on to his shoulder. He's easing
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down a trail and he makes left, thinking he's on
the blue trail, but he was actually on a game
trail and he's following it down and we're following this ridge, okay,
and then you just hear something heavy running down the ridge.
Boom boom boom, boom boom, and it stops and he's like, yo,
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I got it. It's right there, and he's looking. He's like, oh,
this ain't nothing. This is just a raccoon. Because it's
only sticking out of one side of the tree, and
you're hearing like some scratching go It sounded like a coon,
right like. It wasn't out of the ordinary for him
to think this. And then it's sticking out the other
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sid of the tree, and then it's sticking out of
both sides of the tree. So at this point he
thinks it's two coons, right, and he stepped forward and
popped a pal meadow or something, kicked a palmetto or
something with his foot. There was something I can't really remember.
There was something that happened. But this thing shoots out
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through this clearing and then the camera goes dead. Dad
turns to me, he's flipping out. He's like, we gotta go,
we gotta go, we gotta go. And so we're running
back down the trail and I don't know. I didn't
have the thermle in my hands, so I had no
idea what he saw. And he's like, get your gun,
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get your gun. And I had only heard my dad
say that a couple times in my life, to get
my gun, right, And it was so somebody was in
the shop, somebody was on the property. We head back
to the camp and he's just throwing stuff in and
the whole time he's just like, man, it was big.
I don't know, it's looking at us. It's looking at us,
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but we can't see it because therma was dead right,
and we really really didn't have a bright flashlight. All
have his headlamps. And so we tear camp up and
we're going back up the hill. Got a mile hike
out of the woods, and we're still hearing them. Whatever
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these things are that we're running are following us.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Now.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
You know, you walk, you stop, it stops. You walk,
and you start hearing it again, and then you stop
and then it stopped. You know, the whole classic paralleling
that they do. And so we get up there to
the just about to the boy Scout camp because to
walk to Rock Creek Campground you had to go through
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the Boy Scout Camp. And we reached the top of
the hill the noises. We get in the truck. My
dad's slipping out. I get the camera. I'm watching the
footage back and I'm like, dude, what what are we doing? Man,
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it's a bigfoot. We don't need to leave. We need
to go back down there, you know. And he's like, yeah,
I'll give you the camera. You can go back down there.
I'm good, you know, you can have at it. And
so we left. We left. We were going to stay
the night, and we left. And I'd never really been
run out of the woods before. Now, the town I
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live in will always be seventy five percent National forest,
but it's it's a lot of woods, and I've been
in these woods, been in all manner of situations. I
ain't never been run out of the woods by nothing.
And that night, you know, we got run out. We
didn't go back down there because I wasn't going down
there by myself, right, I was still at the time,
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I was still scared to death of these things. And
that was it.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
Man.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
We didn't really talk about the footage for a couple
of days, maybe a couple of weeks, I don't know.
But finally I told my dad. I was like, yo,
I'd like to put this out and he goes, we
can't put it out, and I was like why. He said,
nobody's gonna believe us. He's like, we have to have
somebody do an investigation that we don't know, and we
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don't know that it's a bigfoot. He goes to Stacy,
I know you think it's a bigfoot because you've seen one,
but I don't know that it's a big foot. Like
he went through what's the word I'm looking for? He
went through a sear's denial. Right, he saw it, and
now he's denying himself of what he saw. Right, he's
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trying to make it make sense in his head. And
he come to the conclusion that I had somebody in
the woods that was running like that, and I'm like, Dad,
I got friends, but I ain't cutting no friends. That's
driving Wait to hell out here on a Tuesday night
and go run button naked through the woods with no
flashlight because I didn't see no flow. There was no flashlight, right,
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it was just a creature running and it was looking
in the darkness. Fine, and you can't run through these
woods without a flashlight. If you're just to take off,
you're gonna hit vines or something. You don't gonna get far.
You know, the brush here is really thick. And he goes, Okay, well,
hey see if we could find somebody that will do
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the recreation right. So I ended up talking to Meldrum,
a couple other people, and Cliff Barrackman from Finding Bigfoot,
and Cliff agreed to do the investigation, and so we waited.
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We filmed it in May. It didn't come out until December.
That the whole time, we're just doing the investigation, getting
Cliff the numbers from the site, and he's coming up
with conclusions, right, whatever they may be. Because he has
no skin in the game, you know what I mean,
It doesn't hurt his feelings because he doesn't know me,
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doesn't hurt his feelings to say, hey this is the
person or hey this is a big foot. It doesn't
matter to him. And so he came out there and
just reconfirmed the measurements and then we ended up releasing
the footage. I think it was December two, twenty twelve,
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and I mean, I tell you, we were doing interviews
with people all over the world. It was insane. Got
contacted by three TV networks the same day. Spike TV called,
Discovery called, and so did Animal Planet. Dad did not
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want to be on TV. He he originally said, to
just let me go on there. He didn't want to
do it, and he want to be on Find a
big Foot, And Cliff ended up calling him and just
reassuring him. He's like, mister Brown, I know you're afraid
that we're gonna get on here and make fun of
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you or something. He goes, but I don't think you
realize what you have. He said. Nobody and everybody's seen
the footage. He said, nobody is about to make fun
of you. He said, I promise you we're going to
do this with the utmost respect and stuff like that.
And so my dad agreed. You know, and that was
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that dude was that was kind of lightning in a
bottle that we caught that night. And I tell people
it's like winning the super Bowl with your best friend.
That's that's kind of what it means to me.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
So that is an absolutely incredible statement. It's like winning
the super Bowl with your best friend, your dad. So,
first of all, congratulations. I have a suspicion that Bigfoot
decides if they want you to see them or not
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and to have an experience. Do you how do you
feel about that statement, Stacy?
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Well, so I actually share that. Okay, So I got
the guy I was on Bigfoot Bounty with David Lower.
Me and him can get together and we will always
have activity. We'll see lights, we'll hear all kinds of stuff.
We'll always have activity. I got other buddies who are
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Bigfoot deterrent every time we come. If I'm coming with them,
they're coming with me. I know, damn well, ain't nothing
about to happen. And I don't. I don't know what
it is like. So when I started into Bigfoot, I
thought Bigfoot just a normal primate more or less like us.
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The thing looked the one I saw looked so human.
It looked like a hodgepodge of all different types of humans,
and so I really thought this was just a basic eight.
I'll have it shot and killed in six months. I'm
not a bad hunter. I got on Bigfoot forums and
was reading around on there, and everybody's arguing, and I'm thinking,
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these people don't even know how to hunt real animals,
you know. So, like I had a very negative from
not being in the Bigfoot community and seeing what they
were saying to each other and stuff. Had a very
negative impression of it, right, So I was like, Oh,
that's gonna be done. But the more you get into it,
you realize that these there's a reason they're not in
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a zoo. There's something special about them. And because if hey,
if they were just a normal primate, there's people that
hunt for a living and that are far better at
it than I am, and they would have done bagged
it hands down. It would be in a zoo. You
could go down Atlanta Zoo and look at the thing.
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But you can't because there's something about these creatures and
for the people that's been in this field for so
long and they are still at the conclusion they're looking
for a primate. They're either A not actually going out
into the woods, B they're lying to themselves, or S
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they're just ignoring all the other phenomena that comes with it.
And I think that they pick who sees them based
off of whatever.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
I agree one hundred percent. I have had four encounters
with bigfoot. I don't have any footage, but I know
what I've seen, I know what I've experienced, and it
never was frightening. It was well one time, the second
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time that I saw that I experienced bigfoot, it was
really frightening because it was eleven o'clock at night and
I was by myself in a cabin and one was
like right outside, probably about five feet from me, and
I know what I heard. It was not It was
not any raccoons or any deers right outside. Well, doctor Trey,
you have listened very patiently, and you are one of
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the best interrogators Scary Cast has ever had. You and
Devin Tate are probably the two best that I've ever
been blessed to be on the show with. So, doctor Trey,
you got a question or two for Stacy.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Well, it's a very compelling story, I'll give you that,
and I especially am interested in the fact that your
dad was a ranger, so I.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
He doesn't spook easy, not at all to have him book.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
That's that's pretty significant.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
What did the.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Image actually show? I have not seen this in.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
The image show the full body. So the creature after
Cliff's investigation, which you can go to Cliffbarachman dot com
and look up the Brown Thermal, he has this full
report there. It's actually his report is actually better than
the footage in my opinion, because it tells the trees
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twenty seven inches wide. It tells that the gap that
this creature crossed was nine and a half feet wide.
Now this creature did that gap in one and like
a quarter step. So you see the creature leave the
tree and it crosses that gap with one step. It's
just a quick shot. The whole video ain't but like
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twenty two seconds long. And so he was able to
put a size because apparently we were like sixty yards away, right,
And so with it he was able to come up
with the numbers that was an eight foot tall three inch.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
Creature based on the width of the tree.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
With the tree, the gap, all the numbers that he
knew for an absolute right.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Wow, and bipedal, yes, sir, And it's outline of it
with it christ and up so you could see I
mean two seconds for a video of Bigfoot. From my
experience with talking to people that have seen Bigfoot, that's
a long time.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Yeah. So most of that video it's behind the tree.
You see it sticking out of one side, you see
it sticking out of other side. You see it sticking
out of both sides. And then as he comes out,
he comes out right into a clearing like it's full on.
You see the feet, you see that it's just a
thor image, but you see the whole creature and the hands.
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That was the thing that struck me so odd. It's
because the hands are so massive, Like I don't I
don't think people they give a lot of credit to
the feet, but this thing could be called big hands
just as easily.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
Right.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
But as it pushes off of that tree and goes
across that gap, you get you see the whole thing,
and then it goes we lose it. It walks right
into the brush and you don't see it anymore. Now
we still heard it. It sounded like somebody drove a
down s ten off into the woods.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
You know, now you.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Go back to that location and see the evidence of
something large passing through.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
After the fact, after the fact.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Uh, it was. It was a couple of weeks later
when we ended up going back.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
But right there where it left, it was a game trail, right,
so deer we're probably using it. That's probably the trail
it was coming down on that ridge.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
You know.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
It wasn't very wide like a trail you would see
in a state park. It was a game trail. I
mean definitely you could walk through it, right, but it
wasn't like a well maintained trail. It was definitely where
the deer and all that stuff have been using.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
We also how it affected you if you walked away,
make you living with music? That had to be again
a very compelling statement. So to me, it has all
the hallmarks of authenticity that I had looked for.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
Well, you know, so I say, I quit my music,
I quit drinking. I had a cocaine problem it up
at the end of it. Because I was in a
rock band, right, we partied all the time, I was
making money. I was living it up and I years
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later I didn't see it at the time, but years
later I ended up taking it as God put that
thing in front of me to put me on a
different path, and that's why you took it, and you
know went down that road because I tell you, like
I made a video about my encounter, Like I had
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an encounter before we had this thermal image, right my encounter.
I made a video talking about it. It had six
plays and one of the people that saw it was
a producer for the Howard Stern Show. Out of six people,
and he calls me up and puts me I'm next thing.
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I know. The following week, I'm an Idaho at doctor
Meldrum's lab filming a pilot. Like it feels like it's
just been a ride that I've got in and buckled
up and then the train's just left, you know what
I mean?
Speaker 2 (24:15):
What what do you think if if you if you
talk to a skeptic, uh, well, your dad, what what
are the compelling things that you you can witness to that.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
Really would give a skeptic?
Speaker 3 (24:33):
Cause I guess if this is because here, this is
a funny thing you say that. Uh. My new documentary
I've made, The Journey to Belief, is about my skeptical
buddy me trying to prove Bigfoot's existence to him, okay,
And so I'm having to answer these questions and try
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to move the needle from skeptic to believer. And I
tell him at the start, you know, listen, there ain't
nothing I can show you at the end of the
day that's going to prove it to you. Like I
didn't believe in Bigfoot before I saw it, I don't
expect you to believe in Bigfoot. You're probably gonna think
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I'm lying. That's fine because you didn't see it, I
get it, right, But I'm you can't sit there and
say they're not real if you haven't got out there
and looked for it, you know, because all you have
to do is go out there, open your mind, and
I guess, don't be cynical about it, or don't be like,
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oh this is bs, you know. Just go out there
with an open mind, and when the time's right, they'll
show themselves to you. And a lot of people have
it on their first time, you know what I'm saying.
Beginner's luck is a thing. And anytime we got somebody
that ain't never been, I'm like, yo, you're with me,
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you know what I mean? Because something's gonna happen because
you ain't been out here before. Something's gonna happen, and
I want to be there to witness it. So it's
a tall order to believe that there's a hairy homonid.
But what I tell them is it's not really it's
not really that big a deal because let's just say
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we don't I don't normally talk with skeptics about the
paranormal side of bigfoot. I stick to the ape. It's
an easier pill to swallow. But I tell him, you know, hey,
what if this we already know what this is and
we just thought it went extinct. This kind of stuff
happens all the time. There's more than enough swamp in
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Florida and the rest of the country for these things
to hide in. Because I promise you, if I wanted
to go out here in the swamp, you wouldn't find
me if I didn't want you to. And it's easy
to say that it's not real when you ain't out
there looking for the thing.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Well, you know, your suggestion that some people have an
affinity to sightings and others have the opposite, that seems
to hold true from most of.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
The people who've interviewed.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Some people are I guess just bigfoot magnets and they
see bigfoot much more often than the average person, and
some people don't ever see it, right. And we've interviewed
both both ends of the spectrum on that, and it's
interesting when people say they're a big foot hunter but
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they've actually never seen bigfoot.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
There's a third party stuff.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
But you're an eyewitness to it. And the fact again
your dad an army ranger but really spooked because he
couldn't understand what he was seeing. That really goes a
long way into saying this, this sounds very authentic experience.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
How about your other ones?
Speaker 2 (28:02):
You said you saw it once before and then the
thermal imaging, and then after that you I would imagine
it's an exciting moment no matter what. But were you
were you tuning into things that you missed on the
first two times that you noticed.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
What did you have additional.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Did you have additional things that you said, Oh, I
didn't notice this is the first time, but now that
I'm thinking about it, and it maybe was a little
bit more of an occasion where you were a little
bit used to it. Did did you have any changes
in your interpretation of what you saw?
Speaker 3 (28:42):
No? No, interpretation. So the first unfortunately, I've only seen
one twice. I've only seen a big foot on two
different occasions. The thermal footage that we got, I didn't
see that I was there. This whole thing, by the way,
is on camera, Like my dad's reaction him becoming a believer,
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is all on camera, because that's what I had, a
little sony handicamp, and I didn't know for another probably
thirty five forty minutes what we had. But the first
time we were out at a lady's house claimed she
had had bigfoot on her property. Me and my bass
player and we were writing tunes for a new record,
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and we were just hanging out and the next thing
I know, we hear this like almost like snoring, kind
of deep breathing, and we turn and look and the
things just standing there at the edge of the fire.
It looks at us, maybe been five seconds, maybe been
ten seconds, and it just turns around and walks off.
(29:48):
I would love to say it was exciting. I was
absolutely terrified. And the problem the reason, okay, is a
this is a uh you know, a paradigm shift for me. Okay,
that crazy lady up there at the house that was
telling us, there's Bigfoot out here in these woods. She
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ain't crazy. And she might be crazy, but she ain't lying,
you know what I mean. Well, put, yeah, we look
like fools.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Now.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
We thought it's all hall funny. We're gonna come out
here and you know, have a good time and.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Write a song, a funny song about Bigfoot. Right, it
didn't quite work out that way, No.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
And the feeling, the feeling you get when you get
like that bad phone call that somebody's in the hospital
that you care about, right, it's a hopelessness, right, that
was the feeling because I I'm a pretty common sense guy. Dude,
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this thing was so massive and now I have a
Ruger Red Hawk forty four magnum on my hip. It's
nickel plated, shiny. There wouldn't have been nothing I could
have done. Whatever, whatever that creature wanted to do in
that moment was going to happen. And that was the
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terrifying feeling, you know, that was that, oh my god, hey,
I might actually die here if this situation goes that way.
I guess al most if if somebody's about to maybe
sky died for the first time, they're like, oh my god,
I'm actually about to jump out of the plane. You know,
it's like, oh my god, I'm sitting here in front
of a bigfoot right now that is big enough to
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kill everybody here.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
Yeah. Right.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
So the other time that I saw on was in
the Sierra Mountains with a guy named Justin Smea. Okay,
that thing was so like because there's a difference in
the one I saw in California into one I saw
in Florida. The one I saw in Florida probably about
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seven foot tall, not terribly big, lanky. It looked like
it lived in the swamp. Like its coat wasn't really full,
you know, it's kind of patchy. But the one thing
I remember is the face. The face looked like a
hodgepodge of all humans. Like it had this this flat, big,
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flat nose like an African American dude would really thin lips.
Its eyes were kind of sunk back in his head,
and they may have been sunk in the head, but
it may have been. The brow ridge was just so
like protruding. Yeah, I can't I can't really tell, but
it looked like an Eastern European dude.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
Right.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
You see some of them guys, and oh, I have rushing,
you know those fellas, and in the high cheek bones,
it looked a lot like a human. But the one
I saw in California looked like a jack Lynx commercial.
Its hair was nice, but the only thing with that,
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the only difference was it blocked out the sun when
it stood up. Not because we come around a trail
and then my buddy goes bear bear and he grabs
me by the backpack and snatches me back. You just
see this reddish brown mass stand up in just silhouettes
in front of the sun. We get back to the
main trail there and the singer's running across this field,
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and that's when we knew it wasn't a bear. It
looked like a washer and dryer side by side with
a head in the center, right, And that one wasn't terrifying.
That one was more majaw dropped. The worst part about
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that is that I have my thermal running and in
my hand, and I'm watching it with my eyes because
I've never seen one in the daytime before. I'm watching
this thing with my eyes, and I think I got
my camera pointed at it, but my camera's pointed right
at the damn ground. Yeah, And so Justin. Justin was
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so mad with me. I was so mad with myself.
Like I had one hundred thousand dollars research grant from
Spike TV, and so this is what I was doing
with that money, was trying to get evidence a bigfoot
and I blew it.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
I missed it.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
Show Spike TV with the ground looked like that day?
Speaker 3 (34:24):
Was that?
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Did you show Spike TV with the ground?
Speaker 3 (34:27):
No? No, they wouldn't been too heavy about that.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Tell you when you when you were when reality socks
socks it to you like that. My son had an
encounter with the bear. He was a fly fisherman and
he was he was guiding in Alaska, and he knew
there were bears around.
Speaker 4 (34:48):
But they hadn't bothered him.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
And then they in the in the outfitter gave him
a forty four magnum pistol to carry on his belt, and.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
A bear got a hold of.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Salmon. That's on a fishing line. You're supposed to just
drop your rod and you get the you get your
clients to back off.
Speaker 4 (35:09):
Well, the bear just decided to charge it.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
My son, he didn't tell us this for two years,
and I said, what did you do?
Speaker 4 (35:17):
Did you?
Speaker 2 (35:18):
Did you did you did you pull your pistol? And
he goes, Dad, I didn't know what to do. I
forgot I was wearing the pistol. I just picked up
the big rock and heaved it at it and it
bonked him in the nose and it stopped him. And
then he just huffed and he went off. He said
it was like a Volkswagen Beetle driving at me about
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thirty miles an hour. That's what I felt like. And
when you're overwhelmed by that, I mean there's the fight
or flight reflex, and then there's just the one where
you just go and I think that's the uh. I
think that's a normal human reaction. And at that time,
even if even with the hand cam in your hand,
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you wouldn't be thinking about, oh, I got to get
this on film, because you're just so blown away. And
then it's it's gone in a flag.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
And that's what I told my buddy, you know, because
my buddy's like everybody always says they see these, but
they'll never pop the phone out. And I'm like, dude,
I promise you if you looked at one alas thinking
of it, where's that cell phone at?
Speaker 4 (36:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (36:23):
Yeah, that's this is this is a great witness story.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
I had one other encounter. I didn't see anything, I
heard it and it it actually, it terrified me so
bad that because I remember I told you back in
the day when we got the footage, I was still scared. Well,
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it got to a point where it wasn't scared. I
go by myself all the time, right, and I'm walking
around the woods. I quit carrying my gun because I
was like, Aye, these things that they know, you know,
YadA YadA. I would sleep in a vulnerable position as
in what I mean by that, it's like I'm sleeping
in the low ground. I would sleep in a bowl
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and give them the high ground the top of the
ridge there to my back, and I'd sleep on a
tarp right by the fire. And because I wanted to
wake up with one waking me up. And then so
that all came to an end.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
Yeah, you thought differently after this encounter.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
It sounds like, right, So I'm out there, I'm doing
my rounds of the property, the place where I had
an encounter. I started my investigation there. It lasted like
seven eight years until Hurricane Michael came through. And so
I'm walking the trails and I hear this moaning and
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it sounded like something was injured or crying or hurt.
I don't know, but it gave me like a feeling
of dread.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
It was just.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
And it was loud. I mean it was loud and
it wasn't but like I could tell where it was at.
I'm like, that's right up over the top of the hill.
That's right back there, about a ravine. And I don't
know what come over me. I'm the kind of person
that will go, look, oh, you got a ghost in
your house. Cool, I'm staying all weekend, you know what
(38:34):
I mean. I want to see it. That noise. I
don't know what it did to me. I've never had
a telepathic communication with one, but the feeling I got
was get your ass out of this woods. Out of
these woods now, That's what come across my mind, and
I did. I went back to the cabin. I sat
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on the cabin on the porch there, smoked rest of
my cigarettes, and I stayed up a couple of hours.
Didn't hear nothing. So I go in there and I
get in the bed. It's about three o'clock somewhere around there.
I'm sleeping and I'm hearing what I think is rain
on the top of the roof, a little metal roof.
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I'm just in a little bitty cabin. It's basically a
shed turned into a cabin, right, I'm like, oh wow,
And I'm thinking to myself. I sit up. I'm like,
did I roll my windows up? I ain't got my
windows down, right, Because after I won that Spike TV show,
they got me a BMW as well, so I didn't
want my new car to get messed up. And so
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I'm sitting there like, okay, yeah, my wind is it good?
My win is good. But then I realize that it's
not rain, it's rocks, and it's a lot of rocks.
It's like this thing's stolen handfuls and handfuls up on
the roof. Right, So I'm like, wow, that's rocks. And
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right about that time, I hear boom, boom, boom, three
heavy steps onto the porch and they stop right in
front of the door. It was at that moment I
realized my gun's in the car. All I got is
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this little bitty dive knife. It's got about a three
inch blade on it. I used to free dive with
right super sharp, but it's a dive knife. You ain't
doing nothing with that. And then this door starts shaking,
and then I don't hear it leave the porch.
Speaker 4 (40:46):
But the door.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
The only thing's holding it is a chain lock. Right,
there's no handle, you just pull it and chain locks
a hunting cabin, right, And the chain's just pulling tire
every single time it's banging on the door. I don't
hear it run off. I'm just standing there in my boxers,
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standing there holding this knife, absolutely terrified. And I sit
on the bed about an hour and then I finally
opened the door and I go out. First thing I do,
I go get my gun. I'm looking around. I don't
see nothing. There's no tracks. A road right here in
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front of me, like a driveway, no tracks, there, no impressions,
nothing right. And my dad thought that they were trying
to get me to come out and chase them. We
used to chase them on the property. And he had
believed at one point that the younger ones actually enjoyed
(41:53):
this right, you know. And his belief at the time
was was they were trying to get me out the
cabin to come chase me. But and that may have been,
but the feeling I got when I heard that moaning
was terrible mm hmm. And yeah that that that changed
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my That changed my perspective. But at the same time,
if it wanted to rip that door open, the only
thing that's holding it shut with a little chain lock.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
Well it would have. If it wanted to open the door,
it would have opened the door. And I've got a
quick question for you. When you walked outside, did you
hear the sounds of crickets chirping and the regular wood sounds? Nothing?
Speaker 3 (42:44):
Nothing. And see that's another thing about my first encounter.
Speaker 1 (42:46):
It was it was still there.
Speaker 3 (42:49):
It was November, right when I had my first encounter,
and the leaves were so crunchy. We were staying on
the top of the hill and me and my buddy
were just in conversation, which I'm sure, I promise you.
The conversation wasn't that good where I wouldn't have heard
the thing walk up the hill. The first thing I
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heard was it breathing. It was just there. And I'm
not bro I'm eat up with adhd. If I hear
a little noise, I'm like turning my head. You know
what I mean. I'm you ain't gonna sneak up the
hill on me and that it's it's it's times like that,
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you know. And I didn't. It took me years before
I realized even that. But now you'll have this silence
go across. And it's weird because if you look at
like the other the other two out of the triad,
you got the paranormal, you got the aliens, and you
got the bigfoots. There's a lot of similarities with all three. Okay,
(43:52):
the smells, Uh, what do we do when we're hunting bigfoot?
We're out there knocking on trees. What do we do
when we're in a paranormal investigation. We wrap on the table,
We knock on the table. You know what I'm saying.
And one of the things is just go silent. UFO
encounters times people got abducted, they just talk about it silent,
(44:14):
you know. And at the k I said, this is
just all part of this bigger mystery, and if they're
all connected in some way or another, I won't be shocked.
Speaker 1 (44:30):
In my opinion. You've seen a bigfoot or you've experienced
a bigfoot for sure, and just I mean, I've had
the same.
Speaker 5 (44:39):
Thing happen when I was in the cabin up in
northeast Georgia, and I heard something walking around the corner
of the cabin.
Speaker 1 (44:50):
It was dead silent. All I could hear with the footsteps,
and I heard them stop right in front of the door,
and I said, well, I think I'm just going to
turn the light out. I'm gonna pour another drink, and
I'm just gonna sit here and have a drink, so
at least I'll be having a drink if I get attacked.
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That was my poor, my, poor old rationale. And I
know what you mean is you know, when you're there,
you know something is going on. You just know, and
it doesn't matter later on when you're explaining what happened
and there's a skeptic around, I just look at skeptics
and say, you weren't there, That's all I say, because
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they weren't and they just weren't there, and they, you know,
they weren't lucky as we were.
Speaker 3 (45:42):
I always tell them that, I said, I hope that
you do get to see one one day, because a
lot of people that come up to me at these
bigfoot conferences and stuff I go to, not all of
them are believers. You know, some people are there just
because they think it's cool. And some people are there
because somebody drug them there, you know what I mean.
They had to with somebody else, and I just tell them,
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you know, I hope you see one. I hope it
doesn't terrify you, but I hope you see one because
you genuinely have an interest. And I think it's I
think it sucks that a lot of people don't get
to see it.
Speaker 2 (46:19):
You know, if you had to give advice to someone
who after they hear you talking about your experiences, they say, well,
I'm going to go out in the woods and I'm
going to look for a big foot? What would your
practical advice? That never even considered doing this, and now
they find themselves walking into the woods searching for a
(46:42):
big foot? Whether it's what would what would your practice
to those people.
Speaker 3 (46:50):
Fall in love with camping, because you're not going to
find bigfoot. He's going to find you.
Speaker 4 (46:57):
Mm.
Speaker 3 (46:58):
You know what I'm saying. And that's the times I've
had encounters, I've had activity. I've just been out camping
somewhere where people don't normally camp, and I just act
like normal. I'm playing my guitar, I got a fire going.
These things are very curious. They'll come up and visit
if they're if they are in the area and you
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hit it at the right time. If you want to
have an encounter, be close to the creek. They always
follow the creeks. It was in Boggy Creek, the Boggy
Creek Monster Movie. It still holds true to this day.
It's their little road system, you know. And especially within Florida,
you can't be too far from water, you know, especially
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being that big Go camp near a creek somewhere and
just and just do your thing. They'll come to you.
You don't have to spend hours like trust me, as
somebody who's hiked mountains, walked way off into the swamp,
I've walked, myles, you don't have to do it, you know,
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you really don't save yourself the trouble. Just go camp somewhere, uh,
you know, suprimitive camping and and hope for the best.
Speaker 5 (48:14):
You know.
Speaker 3 (48:14):
It's it's if I go one hundred times, I'm probably
only gonna have activity maybe seven. It ain't it ain't
a it ain't a for sure thing, you know, unless
once you get dialed into an area you can kind
of get it down. But yeah, my advice, and people
would just be fall in love with camping man and
just go camp.
Speaker 2 (48:35):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 4 (48:37):
That's good advice.
Speaker 1 (48:40):
I would say, just go. Yeah, that's that's that's that's
the key, just go. My my, my encounters happened when
I I wasn't going out to camp or we're find Bigfoot.
I just happened to be out in the woods, you know,
doing whatever, or or at someone's house who said that
they had two clans of Bigfoot there. I said, yeah, sure, right,
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sitting there eating my sandwich, looking out the window, and
boom there was I mean, it wanted me to see it, right,
The others didn't see it. It wanted me to see it.
And I know it's real. I guess they wanted me
to see it because I was busy doing the Georgia
the Bigfoot conferences. And I think they like the positive
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publicity that they get because I'm you know, I just
let's talk about them like they remember the family, because
I think they are. But yeah, that's this has been great, Stacy.
These recollections that you had, these experiences you had, these
aligned one hun with the ones that I have had
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and the ones that other real people who have had
real sightings have had and I just I'm just enjoyed
this so much, and we look forward to having you
at the Georgia Bigfoot Conference. That's gonna be the twenty
first and twenty second of March down there in your
Cornelia and Demerius, Georgia. It's gonna be a blast. We're
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gonna have so much fun. We're gonna meet people who've
had experiences, people that want to have experiences, will laugh,
will talk, and I think the skeptics are afraid to
come around us because we're having too much fun. We
don't care what those skeptics say. Do you kind of agree?
Speaker 4 (50:34):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (50:35):
Yeah? And you know I tell everybody when I usually
give my presentations, I tell them all, like, y'all enjoy
this because outside of this room, everybody thinks we're all nuts.
So who cares? You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (50:51):
I think I like you said, when you said she
might be she might be crazy, but she ain't lyon right.
Speaker 1 (51:02):
Yeah, And you know, I had lunch with a fellow yesterday,
and whenever someone says, well, what do you do, I'm
not afraid to say, well, you know, I run conferences.
What kind of conferences?
Speaker 2 (51:15):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (51:16):
I run the Georgia Bigfoot Conference. Oh, and that always
brings a lot of a lot of reaction. And then
we started talking about UFOs said, and then this, this
gentleman said. We were having lunch at the Sea Captains,
a famous, famous restaurant on the very coast of Myrtle Beach.
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And he asked me, he said, what was your first experience?
How did all this manifest itself? I said, do you
really want to know? He said sure. I said, well,
I was four years old and I lived up in
the mountains of North Carolina, and back in those days,
we didn't have air conditioning. We had found and it
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was a Thursday afternoon, because that's the day that my
mother was off. She was a she was a nurse,
and she was off on Thursdays. And I walked into
my room and there were two space aliens sitting on
my window sill. And if that won't, if that won't
change your your life when you were four years old,
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nothing will. I ran into the kitchen my mom was ironing.
I got her to come in. They were gone, but
I made her shut those windows and I kept I
kept the fan on and kept those windows shut forever.
In that little room, I wasn't gonna change. I wasn't
going to chance anything. But you know, I saw it.
It was there. They were there, they were smiling at me.
(52:44):
That's what was so creepy. Why were they smiling at me?
But anyway, yeah, and he just looked at me like
I had lost my mind, and I looked at him
like he had lost his mind. So I got back
at him. But yeah, you know, when you have your
first experience, not a lot you can do. I said,
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I had mine when I was four years old. Then
I didn't have another one until I was thirty, and
so yeah, that one was that was the real thing.
So anyway, we're gonna share a lot of wonderful stories
at the Georgia Bigfoot Conference. Friday night is going to
be at R. M. Rose Distillery in mount Airy, Georgia.
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We're gonna have a Bigfoot round table with you, with
Don Pardo, with Matt delf and Jessica Jones, all very close,
very good friends, and we're gonna have a blast. And
then Saturday is the big day with the speakers, the vendors,
and that's when we'll make a lot of new friends.
And I made a ton of friends doing this. I
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guess that's the reason I really like it is I
think Bigfoot's fun and I make a lot of friends.
It's great, so so, Stacy, it has been great having
you here. I've got to ask you, would you come
back talk to Scary. I have enjoyed this so much,
Doctor Trey. I enjoy your questions. You do such a
(54:07):
good job. I mean what we do is different. We
just talk. We're kind of a couple, couple of nerdy
guys with doctorates. We got the I think the best
surgeon in the world over there in Camden. He is.
He's got such great insight, he has good questions to me.
I'm just kind of off the chain, out of control.
(54:28):
Been there, done that, and want to do it again.
But anyway, Stacy, thank you very much.
Speaker 4 (54:33):
I appreciate it help.
Speaker 2 (54:35):
It helps when you have somebody with compelling stories, with
really things that have the ring of authenticity, and then
it's easy to ask questions about that because you're just curious.
You want to know how you feel, what your reactions were.
And you've been great, Stacy, thank you.
Speaker 3 (54:56):
I appreciate it. Next time, let's talk about ghosts, because
I've got I saw it goes to the Lizzie Borden House.
We could talk about all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 1 (55:07):
I've been through.
Speaker 3 (55:07):
The dammit, I'll.
Speaker 1 (55:09):
Talk about my one bedroom conduct because I have a roommate. Yes,
mister Mansfield is here, and I like him, and I
feel good that he's here. It's nice not being alone.
And I know some people, I mean, you know, if
you get if you get up to one of those
houses like where they had the omen and all that stuff,
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I'd be scared. But I'm not scared of mister Mansfield.
I think mister Mansfield is a good guy, and I
and I take comfort that he's here. I know I'm
not alone, and I think you know I'm lucky. So
look to Stacy. Thank you very much, Thank you, doctor
Trey Dunnaway. I'll be I'll do the call around after
we say Cyonara for tonight. But this has been another
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landmark scary cast. It's been so much fun. I always
know that it's been a good scary cast when I
am smiling, and I got a huge smile on my face.
So thanks a lot, Stacy, Thanks doctor to Trey. We'll
see everybody next week on the one. There's only one
scary cast. Take care guys, good night.
Good evening and live from Myrtle Beach, South Carolina. This
is doctor John Stamy saying, welcome to Scary Cast. We've
got a great show. It's going to be exciting tonight.
I've got one of my best co hosts ever, doctor
Trey done away from Camden, South Carolina. How are you
doing tonight, doctor Trey?
Speaker 2 (00:21):
It was John on this rainy, chilly South Carolina winter weather.
Winter weather being about forty but it's a good day.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
But hey, forty degrees, it is nice to have a
little cool weather before we have this nice hot stuff
that I love so much. Well, it's great to have
you here. And tonight we've got an experienced bigfoot explorer.
He's become a little bit famous, and I use that lightly.
He has become quite well known in the bigfoot world
(00:52):
or some of the things that he has done. So
tonight from oh Crawfordsville, Florida, I'm pleased to introduce the
one and only Stacy Brown. How you doing tonight, Stacy?
Speaker 3 (01:05):
I'm doing all right, guys. How are y'all go right?
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Yeah, I'm fine. We're glad to have you here and
we're gonna have a lot of fun. Now you are well,
pretty well known as a bigfoot explorer. How long have
you been out looking for bigfoot? And I think you've
found bigfoot. We'll talk about that here in just a minute.
But how long have you been in the hunt for Bigfoot?
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Since? About November of twenty eleven. So I have my
first encounter then, and it absolutely changed my life for
the better. You know, I was in a rock band
back then, so I was doing rock and roll things,
(01:55):
and you know, having a bigfoot encounter, I quit. I
gave everything up and just you know, went went for
the chase because in my mind, I was gonna be
the one that proved this. How silly was I?
Speaker 1 (02:12):
You know, well, you I don't think you were. I
know that I had my first big experience when I
was eating a Saturday lunch and I saw Bigfoot walk
by the window and I didn't know what to do,
but I jumped up and went ran outside and Bigfoot
wasn't there, But I know what I saw, and you
(02:33):
know what you saw, don't you.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Yeah, you know at the end of the day, when
I go to bed at night, that moment where you're
trying to fall asleep and all the thoughts are racing
through your head. Bigfoot's real is one of those thoughts
because that every night I think about it every single
night since this happened.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Well, that that is great. You had a very celebrated
Bigfoot encounter that you took some photography of and I
think it was thermal imaging, and that was with your
dad out in a campground in Florida. Would you tell
us a little bit about that story because that's something
(03:19):
that I know our listeners would really love to hear.
And it was that footage was on Finding Bigfoot, the
most amazing show about Bigfoot it ever came on television.
So please tell us that story. We want to hear it.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Yeah for sure. Yeah, before I get into it, Finding Bigfoot,
we were doing that, but we almost didn't do that
because my dad was like, no, I don't want to
be on TV. So but anyway, So it was Tuesday,
May eighth, twenty twelve, and I was working. My dad
(03:58):
called me up about two o'clock and was like, Yo,
you want to go camping tonight. Now he had had
cancer and he had been cancer free for a few months.
Healed up from the surgery and stuff, and I wanted
to get back out the You know, hanging out and
spending time. So he asked me if I wanted to
go camping. I was like, sure, just grab my stuff
(04:20):
from the house and come by and get me. At
the time, I had all my stuff in a tote
right there by the front door, right so because I
was going all the time and I always had my
stuff just ready to go. But he came by picked
me up. We rode out the terral, which is about
(04:40):
an hour and thirty minutes away from the house, and
we stayed down in the Rock Creek campground, which is
about a mile downhill from the parking lot, and there's
a beautiful creek that runs through the campground and stuff.
And it had rained that day, you know, just kind
(05:04):
of drizzled all day long and it made the ground
so the leaves didn't crunch, and so we were out
there just listening to music and cooking some ribs. We
started hearing knocks. I was telling my dad, you know, hey,
that's then we need to go look for him. And
(05:25):
my dad didn't believe in him. My dad's was a
retired Army ranger and he thought Bigfoot was cool and
he believed me, but he was still kind of skeptical,
so it took some convincing. Over about an hour and
a half two hours, we kept hearing knocks, and he
finally said, if we hear another one, we'll go out
(05:48):
there and look for him. And as soon as that
came out of his mouth, there was like a grunt
and a knock. It was like, oh right, and like
it really gave it it tall and I looked at him.
His eyes got big, and I'm like, that's it. Let's go.
And so we cranked the music up on the radio
(06:09):
I had, and the cicadas were super loud that night,
so getting the footage was more or less like the
perfect storm, right. Everything lined up in rained so the
leaves didn't crunch, the cicadas were super loud, and it
was dark. I mean you could not see your hand
in front of your face. And so I had a
(06:32):
little sony handicam and he had a thermal and he
turned it to black hot, because on black hot, the
trail being kind of sunken in like that, appeared white, right,
And we're really worried about snake. So he was watching
the ground and as we're walking away from the camp,
(06:54):
we're hearing stuff to our right running, you know, and
then hearing stuff to our left running or figured it
was deer. We couldn't see nothing the palmeadows this time
of year, you know, spring was really into effect at
that point, and the palmettos were over our heads. So
I'm kind of holding on to his shoulder. He's easing
(07:17):
down a trail and he makes left, thinking he's on
the blue trail, but he was actually on a game
trail and he's following it down and we're following this ridge, okay,
and then you just hear something heavy running down the ridge.
Boom boom boom, boom boom, and it stops and he's like, yo,
(07:39):
I got it. It's right there, and he's looking. He's like, oh,
this ain't nothing. This is just a raccoon. Because it's
only sticking out of one side of the tree, and
you're hearing like some scratching go It sounded like a coon,
right like. It wasn't out of the ordinary for him
to think this. And then it's sticking out the other
(07:59):
sid of the tree, and then it's sticking out of
both sides of the tree. So at this point he
thinks it's two coons, right, and he stepped forward and
popped a pal meadow or something, kicked a palmetto or
something with his foot. There was something I can't really remember.
There was something that happened. But this thing shoots out
(08:20):
through this clearing and then the camera goes dead. Dad
turns to me, he's flipping out. He's like, we gotta go,
we gotta go, we gotta go. And so we're running
back down the trail and I don't know. I didn't
have the thermle in my hands, so I had no
idea what he saw. And he's like, get your gun,
(08:44):
get your gun. And I had only heard my dad
say that a couple times in my life, to get
my gun, right, And it was so somebody was in
the shop, somebody was on the property. We head back
to the camp and he's just throwing stuff in and
the whole time he's just like, man, it was big.
I don't know, it's looking at us. It's looking at us,
(09:07):
but we can't see it because therma was dead right,
and we really really didn't have a bright flashlight. All
have his headlamps. And so we tear camp up and
we're going back up the hill. Got a mile hike
out of the woods, and we're still hearing them. Whatever
(09:28):
these things are that we're running are following us.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Now.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
You know, you walk, you stop, it stops. You walk,
and you start hearing it again, and then you stop
and then it stopped. You know, the whole classic paralleling
that they do. And so we get up there to
the just about to the boy Scout camp because to
walk to Rock Creek Campground you had to go through
(09:52):
the Boy Scout Camp. And we reached the top of
the hill the noises. We get in the truck. My
dad's slipping out. I get the camera. I'm watching the
footage back and I'm like, dude, what what are we doing? Man,
(10:14):
it's a bigfoot. We don't need to leave. We need
to go back down there, you know. And he's like, yeah,
I'll give you the camera. You can go back down there.
I'm good, you know, you can have at it. And
so we left. We left. We were going to stay
the night, and we left. And I'd never really been
run out of the woods before. Now, the town I
(10:37):
live in will always be seventy five percent National forest,
but it's it's a lot of woods, and I've been
in these woods, been in all manner of situations. I
ain't never been run out of the woods by nothing.
And that night, you know, we got run out. We
didn't go back down there because I wasn't going down
there by myself, right, I was still at the time,
(10:58):
I was still scared to death of these things. And
that was it.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
Man.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
We didn't really talk about the footage for a couple
of days, maybe a couple of weeks, I don't know.
But finally I told my dad. I was like, yo,
I'd like to put this out and he goes, we
can't put it out, and I was like why. He said,
nobody's gonna believe us. He's like, we have to have
somebody do an investigation that we don't know, and we
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don't know that it's a bigfoot. He goes to Stacy,
I know you think it's a bigfoot because you've seen one,
but I don't know that it's a big foot. Like
he went through what's the word I'm looking for? He
went through a sear's denial. Right, he saw it, and
now he's denying himself of what he saw. Right, he's
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trying to make it make sense in his head. And
he come to the conclusion that I had somebody in
the woods that was running like that, and I'm like, Dad,
I got friends, but I ain't cutting no friends. That's
driving Wait to hell out here on a Tuesday night
and go run button naked through the woods with no
flashlight because I didn't see no flow. There was no flashlight, right,
(12:15):
it was just a creature running and it was looking
in the darkness. Fine, and you can't run through these
woods without a flashlight. If you're just to take off,
you're gonna hit vines or something. You don't gonna get far.
You know, the brush here is really thick. And he goes, Okay, well,
hey see if we could find somebody that will do
(12:35):
the recreation right. So I ended up talking to Meldrum,
a couple other people, and Cliff Barrackman from Finding Bigfoot,
and Cliff agreed to do the investigation, and so we waited.
(12:56):
We filmed it in May. It didn't come out until December.
That the whole time, we're just doing the investigation, getting
Cliff the numbers from the site, and he's coming up
with conclusions, right, whatever they may be. Because he has
no skin in the game, you know what I mean,
It doesn't hurt his feelings because he doesn't know me,
(13:18):
doesn't hurt his feelings to say, hey this is the
person or hey this is a big foot. It doesn't
matter to him. And so he came out there and
just reconfirmed the measurements and then we ended up releasing
the footage. I think it was December two, twenty twelve,
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and I mean, I tell you, we were doing interviews
with people all over the world. It was insane. Got
contacted by three TV networks the same day. Spike TV called,
Discovery called, and so did Animal Planet. Dad did not
(14:00):
want to be on TV. He he originally said, to
just let me go on there. He didn't want to
do it, and he want to be on Find a
big Foot, And Cliff ended up calling him and just
reassuring him. He's like, mister Brown, I know you're afraid
that we're gonna get on here and make fun of
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you or something. He goes, but I don't think you
realize what you have. He said. Nobody and everybody's seen
the footage. He said, nobody is about to make fun
of you. He said, I promise you we're going to
do this with the utmost respect and stuff like that.
And so my dad agreed. You know, and that was
(14:42):
that dude was that was kind of lightning in a
bottle that we caught that night. And I tell people
it's like winning the super Bowl with your best friend.
That's that's kind of what it means to me.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
So that is an absolutely incredible statement. It's like winning
the super Bowl with your best friend, your dad. So,
first of all, congratulations. I have a suspicion that Bigfoot
decides if they want you to see them or not
(15:16):
and to have an experience. Do you how do you
feel about that statement, Stacy?
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Well, so I actually share that. Okay, So I got
the guy I was on Bigfoot Bounty with David Lower.
Me and him can get together and we will always
have activity. We'll see lights, we'll hear all kinds of stuff.
We'll always have activity. I got other buddies who are
(15:43):
Bigfoot deterrent every time we come. If I'm coming with them,
they're coming with me. I know, damn well, ain't nothing
about to happen. And I don't. I don't know what
it is like. So when I started into Bigfoot, I
thought Bigfoot just a normal primate more or less like us.
(16:04):
The thing looked the one I saw looked so human.
It looked like a hodgepodge of all different types of humans,
and so I really thought this was just a basic eight.
I'll have it shot and killed in six months. I'm
not a bad hunter. I got on Bigfoot forums and
was reading around on there, and everybody's arguing, and I'm thinking,
(16:24):
these people don't even know how to hunt real animals,
you know. So, like I had a very negative from
not being in the Bigfoot community and seeing what they
were saying to each other and stuff. Had a very
negative impression of it, right, So I was like, Oh,
that's gonna be done. But the more you get into it,
you realize that these there's a reason they're not in
(16:45):
a zoo. There's something special about them. And because if hey,
if they were just a normal primate, there's people that
hunt for a living and that are far better at
it than I am, and they would have done bagged
it hands down. It would be in a zoo. You
could go down Atlanta Zoo and look at the thing.
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But you can't because there's something about these creatures and
for the people that's been in this field for so
long and they are still at the conclusion they're looking
for a primate. They're either A not actually going out
into the woods, B they're lying to themselves, or S
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they're just ignoring all the other phenomena that comes with it.
And I think that they pick who sees them based
off of whatever.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
I agree one hundred percent. I have had four encounters
with bigfoot. I don't have any footage, but I know
what I've seen, I know what I've experienced, and it
never was frightening. It was well one time, the second
(17:59):
time that I saw that I experienced bigfoot, it was
really frightening because it was eleven o'clock at night and
I was by myself in a cabin and one was
like right outside, probably about five feet from me, and
I know what I heard. It was not It was
not any raccoons or any deers right outside. Well, doctor Trey,
you have listened very patiently, and you are one of
(18:23):
the best interrogators Scary Cast has ever had. You and
Devin Tate are probably the two best that I've ever
been blessed to be on the show with. So, doctor Trey,
you got a question or two for Stacy.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Well, it's a very compelling story, I'll give you that,
and I especially am interested in the fact that your
dad was a ranger, so I.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
He doesn't spook easy, not at all to have him book.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
That's that's pretty significant.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
What did the.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Image actually show? I have not seen this in.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
The image show the full body. So the creature after
Cliff's investigation, which you can go to Cliffbarachman dot com
and look up the Brown Thermal, he has this full
report there. It's actually his report is actually better than
the footage in my opinion, because it tells the trees
(19:34):
twenty seven inches wide. It tells that the gap that
this creature crossed was nine and a half feet wide.
Now this creature did that gap in one and like
a quarter step. So you see the creature leave the
tree and it crosses that gap with one step. It's
just a quick shot. The whole video ain't but like
(19:56):
twenty two seconds long. And so he was able to
put a size because apparently we were like sixty yards away, right,
And so with it he was able to come up
with the numbers that was an eight foot tall three inch.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
Creature based on the width of the tree.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
With the tree, the gap, all the numbers that he
knew for an absolute right.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Wow, and bipedal, yes, sir, And it's outline of it
with it christ and up so you could see I
mean two seconds for a video of Bigfoot. From my
experience with talking to people that have seen Bigfoot, that's
a long time.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Yeah. So most of that video it's behind the tree.
You see it sticking out of one side, you see
it sticking out of other side. You see it sticking
out of both sides. And then as he comes out,
he comes out right into a clearing like it's full on.
You see the feet, you see that it's just a
thor image, but you see the whole creature and the hands.
(21:05):
That was the thing that struck me so odd. It's
because the hands are so massive, Like I don't I
don't think people they give a lot of credit to
the feet, but this thing could be called big hands
just as easily.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
Right.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
But as it pushes off of that tree and goes
across that gap, you get you see the whole thing,
and then it goes we lose it. It walks right
into the brush and you don't see it anymore. Now
we still heard it. It sounded like somebody drove a
down s ten off into the woods.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
You know, now you.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Go back to that location and see the evidence of
something large passing through.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
After the fact, after the fact.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Uh, it was. It was a couple of weeks later
when we ended up going back.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
But right there where it left, it was a game trail, right,
so deer we're probably using it. That's probably the trail
it was coming down on that ridge.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
You know.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
It wasn't very wide like a trail you would see
in a state park. It was a game trail. I
mean definitely you could walk through it, right, but it
wasn't like a well maintained trail. It was definitely where
the deer and all that stuff have been using.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
We also how it affected you if you walked away,
make you living with music? That had to be again
a very compelling statement. So to me, it has all
the hallmarks of authenticity that I had looked for.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
Well, you know, so I say, I quit my music,
I quit drinking. I had a cocaine problem it up
at the end of it. Because I was in a
rock band, right, we partied all the time, I was
making money. I was living it up and I years
(23:13):
later I didn't see it at the time, but years
later I ended up taking it as God put that
thing in front of me to put me on a
different path, and that's why you took it, and you
know went down that road because I tell you, like
I made a video about my encounter, Like I had
(23:34):
an encounter before we had this thermal image, right my encounter.
I made a video talking about it. It had six
plays and one of the people that saw it was
a producer for the Howard Stern Show. Out of six people,
and he calls me up and puts me I'm next thing.
(23:57):
I know. The following week, I'm an Idaho at doctor
Meldrum's lab filming a pilot. Like it feels like it's
just been a ride that I've got in and buckled
up and then the train's just left, you know what
I mean?
Speaker 2 (24:15):
What what do you think if if you if you
talk to a skeptic, uh, well, your dad, what what
are the compelling things that you you can witness to that.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
Really would give a skeptic?
Speaker 3 (24:33):
Cause I guess if this is because here, this is
a funny thing you say that. Uh. My new documentary
I've made, The Journey to Belief, is about my skeptical
buddy me trying to prove Bigfoot's existence to him, okay,
And so I'm having to answer these questions and try
(24:55):
to move the needle from skeptic to believer. And I
tell him at the start, you know, listen, there ain't
nothing I can show you at the end of the
day that's going to prove it to you. Like I
didn't believe in Bigfoot before I saw it, I don't
expect you to believe in Bigfoot. You're probably gonna think
(25:19):
I'm lying. That's fine because you didn't see it, I
get it, right, But I'm you can't sit there and
say they're not real if you haven't got out there
and looked for it, you know, because all you have
to do is go out there, open your mind, and
I guess, don't be cynical about it, or don't be like,
(25:40):
oh this is bs, you know. Just go out there
with an open mind, and when the time's right, they'll
show themselves to you. And a lot of people have
it on their first time, you know what I'm saying.
Beginner's luck is a thing. And anytime we got somebody
that ain't never been, I'm like, yo, you're with me,
(26:01):
you know what I mean? Because something's gonna happen because
you ain't been out here before. Something's gonna happen, and
I want to be there to witness it. So it's
a tall order to believe that there's a hairy homonid.
But what I tell them is it's not really it's
not really that big a deal because let's just say
(26:21):
we don't I don't normally talk with skeptics about the
paranormal side of bigfoot. I stick to the ape. It's
an easier pill to swallow. But I tell him, you know, hey,
what if this we already know what this is and
we just thought it went extinct. This kind of stuff
happens all the time. There's more than enough swamp in
(26:43):
Florida and the rest of the country for these things
to hide in. Because I promise you, if I wanted
to go out here in the swamp, you wouldn't find
me if I didn't want you to. And it's easy
to say that it's not real when you ain't out
there looking for the thing.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Well, you know, your suggestion that some people have an
affinity to sightings and others have the opposite, that seems
to hold true from most of.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
The people who've interviewed.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Some people are I guess just bigfoot magnets and they
see bigfoot much more often than the average person, and
some people don't ever see it, right. And we've interviewed
both both ends of the spectrum on that, and it's
interesting when people say they're a big foot hunter but
(27:36):
they've actually never seen bigfoot.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
There's a third party stuff.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
But you're an eyewitness to it. And the fact again
your dad an army ranger but really spooked because he
couldn't understand what he was seeing. That really goes a
long way into saying this, this sounds very authentic experience.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
How about your other ones?
Speaker 2 (28:02):
You said you saw it once before and then the
thermal imaging, and then after that you I would imagine
it's an exciting moment no matter what. But were you
were you tuning into things that you missed on the
first two times that you noticed.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
What did you have additional.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Did you have additional things that you said, Oh, I
didn't notice this is the first time, but now that
I'm thinking about it, and it maybe was a little
bit more of an occasion where you were a little
bit used to it. Did did you have any changes
in your interpretation of what you saw?
Speaker 3 (28:42):
No? No, interpretation. So the first unfortunately, I've only seen
one twice. I've only seen a big foot on two
different occasions. The thermal footage that we got, I didn't
see that I was there. This whole thing, by the way,
is on camera, Like my dad's reaction him becoming a believer,
(29:05):
is all on camera, because that's what I had, a
little sony handicamp, and I didn't know for another probably
thirty five forty minutes what we had. But the first
time we were out at a lady's house claimed she
had had bigfoot on her property. Me and my bass
player and we were writing tunes for a new record,
(29:28):
and we were just hanging out and the next thing
I know, we hear this like almost like snoring, kind
of deep breathing, and we turn and look and the
things just standing there at the edge of the fire.
It looks at us, maybe been five seconds, maybe been
ten seconds, and it just turns around and walks off.
(29:48):
I would love to say it was exciting. I was
absolutely terrified. And the problem the reason, okay, is a
this is a uh you know, a paradigm shift for me. Okay,
that crazy lady up there at the house that was
telling us, there's Bigfoot out here in these woods. She
(30:09):
ain't crazy. And she might be crazy, but she ain't lying,
you know what I mean. Well, put, yeah, we look
like fools.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Now.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
We thought it's all hall funny. We're gonna come out
here and you know, have a good time and.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Write a song, a funny song about Bigfoot. Right, it
didn't quite work out that way, No.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
And the feeling, the feeling you get when you get
like that bad phone call that somebody's in the hospital
that you care about, right, it's a hopelessness, right, that
was the feeling because I I'm a pretty common sense guy. Dude,
(30:52):
this thing was so massive and now I have a
Ruger Red Hawk forty four magnum on my hip. It's
nickel plated, shiny. There wouldn't have been nothing I could
have done. Whatever, whatever that creature wanted to do in
that moment was going to happen. And that was the
(31:12):
terrifying feeling, you know, that was that, oh my god, hey,
I might actually die here if this situation goes that way.
I guess al most if if somebody's about to maybe
sky died for the first time, they're like, oh my god,
I'm actually about to jump out of the plane. You know,
it's like, oh my god, I'm sitting here in front
of a bigfoot right now that is big enough to
(31:35):
kill everybody here.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
Yeah. Right.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
So the other time that I saw on was in
the Sierra Mountains with a guy named Justin Smea. Okay,
that thing was so like because there's a difference in
the one I saw in California into one I saw
in Florida. The one I saw in Florida probably about
(31:58):
seven foot tall, not terribly big, lanky. It looked like
it lived in the swamp. Like its coat wasn't really full,
you know, it's kind of patchy. But the one thing
I remember is the face. The face looked like a
hodgepodge of all humans. Like it had this this flat, big,
(32:18):
flat nose like an African American dude would really thin lips.
Its eyes were kind of sunk back in his head,
and they may have been sunk in the head, but
it may have been. The brow ridge was just so
like protruding. Yeah, I can't I can't really tell, but
it looked like an Eastern European dude.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
Right.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
You see some of them guys, and oh, I have rushing,
you know those fellas, and in the high cheek bones,
it looked a lot like a human. But the one
I saw in California looked like a jack Lynx commercial.
Its hair was nice, but the only thing with that,
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the only difference was it blocked out the sun when
it stood up. Not because we come around a trail
and then my buddy goes bear bear and he grabs
me by the backpack and snatches me back. You just
see this reddish brown mass stand up in just silhouettes
in front of the sun. We get back to the
main trail there and the singer's running across this field,
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and that's when we knew it wasn't a bear. It
looked like a washer and dryer side by side with
a head in the center, right, And that one wasn't terrifying.
That one was more majaw dropped. The worst part about
(33:43):
that is that I have my thermal running and in
my hand, and I'm watching it with my eyes because
I've never seen one in the daytime before. I'm watching
this thing with my eyes, and I think I got
my camera pointed at it, but my camera's pointed right
at the damn ground. Yeah, And so Justin. Justin was
(34:06):
so mad with me. I was so mad with myself.
Like I had one hundred thousand dollars research grant from
Spike TV, and so this is what I was doing
with that money, was trying to get evidence a bigfoot
and I blew it.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
I missed it.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
Show Spike TV with the ground looked like that day?
Speaker 3 (34:24):
Was that?
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Did you show Spike TV with the ground?
Speaker 3 (34:27):
No? No, they wouldn't been too heavy about that.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Tell you when you when you were when reality socks
socks it to you like that. My son had an
encounter with the bear. He was a fly fisherman and
he was he was guiding in Alaska, and he knew
there were bears around.
Speaker 4 (34:48):
But they hadn't bothered him.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
And then they in the in the outfitter gave him
a forty four magnum pistol to carry on his belt, and.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
A bear got a hold of.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Salmon. That's on a fishing line. You're supposed to just
drop your rod and you get the you get your
clients to back off.
Speaker 4 (35:09):
Well, the bear just decided to charge it.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
My son, he didn't tell us this for two years,
and I said, what did you do?
Speaker 4 (35:17):
Did you?
Speaker 2 (35:18):
Did you did you did you pull your pistol? And
he goes, Dad, I didn't know what to do. I
forgot I was wearing the pistol. I just picked up
the big rock and heaved it at it and it
bonked him in the nose and it stopped him. And
then he just huffed and he went off. He said
it was like a Volkswagen Beetle driving at me about
(35:40):
thirty miles an hour. That's what I felt like. And
when you're overwhelmed by that, I mean there's the fight
or flight reflex, and then there's just the one where
you just go and I think that's the uh. I
think that's a normal human reaction. And at that time,
even if even with the hand cam in your hand,
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you wouldn't be thinking about, oh, I got to get
this on film, because you're just so blown away. And
then it's it's gone in a flag.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
And that's what I told my buddy, you know, because
my buddy's like everybody always says they see these, but
they'll never pop the phone out. And I'm like, dude,
I promise you if you looked at one alas thinking
of it, where's that cell phone at?
Speaker 4 (36:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (36:23):
Yeah, that's this is this is a great witness story.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
I had one other encounter. I didn't see anything, I
heard it and it it actually, it terrified me so
bad that because I remember I told you back in
the day when we got the footage, I was still scared. Well,
(36:52):
it got to a point where it wasn't scared. I
go by myself all the time, right, and I'm walking
around the woods. I quit carrying my gun because I
was like, Aye, these things that they know, you know,
YadA YadA. I would sleep in a vulnerable position as
in what I mean by that, it's like I'm sleeping
in the low ground. I would sleep in a bowl
(37:14):
and give them the high ground the top of the
ridge there to my back, and I'd sleep on a
tarp right by the fire. And because I wanted to
wake up with one waking me up. And then so
that all came to an end.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
Yeah, you thought differently after this encounter.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
It sounds like, right, So I'm out there, I'm doing
my rounds of the property, the place where I had
an encounter. I started my investigation there. It lasted like
seven eight years until Hurricane Michael came through. And so
I'm walking the trails and I hear this moaning and
(38:00):
it sounded like something was injured or crying or hurt.
I don't know, but it gave me like a feeling
of dread.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
It was just.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
And it was loud. I mean it was loud and
it wasn't but like I could tell where it was at.
I'm like, that's right up over the top of the hill.
That's right back there, about a ravine. And I don't
know what come over me. I'm the kind of person
that will go, look, oh, you got a ghost in
your house. Cool, I'm staying all weekend, you know what
(38:34):
I mean. I want to see it. That noise. I
don't know what it did to me. I've never had
a telepathic communication with one, but the feeling I got
was get your ass out of this woods. Out of
these woods now, That's what come across my mind, and
I did. I went back to the cabin. I sat
(38:56):
on the cabin on the porch there, smoked rest of
my cigarettes, and I stayed up a couple of hours.
Didn't hear nothing. So I go in there and I
get in the bed. It's about three o'clock somewhere around there.
I'm sleeping and I'm hearing what I think is rain
on the top of the roof, a little metal roof.
(39:18):
I'm just in a little bitty cabin. It's basically a
shed turned into a cabin, right, I'm like, oh wow,
And I'm thinking to myself. I sit up. I'm like,
did I roll my windows up? I ain't got my
windows down, right, Because after I won that Spike TV show,
they got me a BMW as well, so I didn't
want my new car to get messed up. And so
(39:42):
I'm sitting there like, okay, yeah, my wind is it good?
My win is good. But then I realize that it's
not rain, it's rocks, and it's a lot of rocks.
It's like this thing's stolen handfuls and handfuls up on
the roof. Right, So I'm like, wow, that's rocks. And
(40:04):
right about that time, I hear boom, boom, boom, three
heavy steps onto the porch and they stop right in
front of the door. It was at that moment I
realized my gun's in the car. All I got is
(40:25):
this little bitty dive knife. It's got about a three
inch blade on it. I used to free dive with
right super sharp, but it's a dive knife. You ain't
doing nothing with that. And then this door starts shaking,
and then I don't hear it leave the porch.
Speaker 4 (40:46):
But the door.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
The only thing's holding it is a chain lock. Right,
there's no handle, you just pull it and chain locks
a hunting cabin, right, And the chain's just pulling tire
every single time it's banging on the door. I don't
hear it run off. I'm just standing there in my boxers,
(41:10):
standing there holding this knife, absolutely terrified. And I sit
on the bed about an hour and then I finally
opened the door and I go out. First thing I do,
I go get my gun. I'm looking around. I don't
see nothing. There's no tracks. A road right here in
(41:32):
front of me, like a driveway, no tracks, there, no impressions,
nothing right. And my dad thought that they were trying
to get me to come out and chase them. We
used to chase them on the property. And he had
believed at one point that the younger ones actually enjoyed
(41:53):
this right, you know. And his belief at the time
was was they were trying to get me out the
cabin to come chase me. But and that may have been,
but the feeling I got when I heard that moaning
was terrible mm hmm. And yeah that that that changed
(42:15):
my That changed my perspective. But at the same time,
if it wanted to rip that door open, the only
thing that's holding it shut with a little chain lock.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
Well it would have. If it wanted to open the door,
it would have opened the door. And I've got a
quick question for you. When you walked outside, did you
hear the sounds of crickets chirping and the regular wood sounds? Nothing?
Speaker 3 (42:44):
Nothing. And see that's another thing about my first encounter.
Speaker 1 (42:46):
It was it was still there.
Speaker 3 (42:49):
It was November, right when I had my first encounter,
and the leaves were so crunchy. We were staying on
the top of the hill and me and my buddy
were just in conversation, which I'm sure, I promise you.
The conversation wasn't that good where I wouldn't have heard
the thing walk up the hill. The first thing I
(43:09):
heard was it breathing. It was just there. And I'm
not bro I'm eat up with adhd. If I hear
a little noise, I'm like turning my head. You know
what I mean. I'm you ain't gonna sneak up the
hill on me and that it's it's it's times like that,
(43:29):
you know. And I didn't. It took me years before
I realized even that. But now you'll have this silence
go across. And it's weird because if you look at
like the other the other two out of the triad,
you got the paranormal, you got the aliens, and you
got the bigfoots. There's a lot of similarities with all three. Okay,
(43:52):
the smells, Uh, what do we do when we're hunting bigfoot?
We're out there knocking on trees. What do we do
when we're in a paranormal investigation. We wrap on the table,
We knock on the table. You know what I'm saying.
And one of the things is just go silent. UFO
encounters times people got abducted, they just talk about it silent,
(44:14):
you know. And at the k I said, this is
just all part of this bigger mystery, and if they're
all connected in some way or another, I won't be shocked.
Speaker 1 (44:30):
In my opinion. You've seen a bigfoot or you've experienced
a bigfoot for sure, and just I mean, I've had
the same.
Speaker 5 (44:39):
Thing happen when I was in the cabin up in
northeast Georgia, and I heard something walking around the corner
of the cabin.
Speaker 1 (44:50):
It was dead silent. All I could hear with the footsteps,
and I heard them stop right in front of the door,
and I said, well, I think I'm just going to
turn the light out. I'm gonna pour another drink, and
I'm just gonna sit here and have a drink, so
at least I'll be having a drink if I get attacked.
(45:14):
That was my poor, my, poor old rationale. And I
know what you mean is you know, when you're there,
you know something is going on. You just know, and
it doesn't matter later on when you're explaining what happened
and there's a skeptic around, I just look at skeptics
and say, you weren't there, That's all I say, because
(45:34):
they weren't and they just weren't there, and they, you know,
they weren't lucky as we were.
Speaker 3 (45:42):
I always tell them that, I said, I hope that
you do get to see one one day, because a
lot of people that come up to me at these
bigfoot conferences and stuff I go to, not all of
them are believers. You know, some people are there just
because they think it's cool. And some people are there
because somebody drug them there, you know what I mean.
They had to with somebody else, and I just tell them,
(46:04):
you know, I hope you see one. I hope it
doesn't terrify you, but I hope you see one because
you genuinely have an interest. And I think it's I
think it sucks that a lot of people don't get
to see it.
Speaker 2 (46:19):
You know, if you had to give advice to someone
who after they hear you talking about your experiences, they say, well,
I'm going to go out in the woods and I'm
going to look for a big foot? What would your
practical advice? That never even considered doing this, and now
they find themselves walking into the woods searching for a
(46:42):
big foot? Whether it's what would what would your practice
to those people.
Speaker 3 (46:50):
Fall in love with camping, because you're not going to
find bigfoot. He's going to find you.
Speaker 4 (46:57):
Mm.
Speaker 3 (46:58):
You know what I'm saying. And that's the times I've
had encounters, I've had activity. I've just been out camping
somewhere where people don't normally camp, and I just act
like normal. I'm playing my guitar, I got a fire going.
These things are very curious. They'll come up and visit
if they're if they are in the area and you
(47:20):
hit it at the right time. If you want to
have an encounter, be close to the creek. They always
follow the creeks. It was in Boggy Creek, the Boggy
Creek Monster Movie. It still holds true to this day.
It's their little road system, you know. And especially within Florida,
you can't be too far from water, you know, especially
(47:42):
being that big Go camp near a creek somewhere and
just and just do your thing. They'll come to you.
You don't have to spend hours like trust me, as
somebody who's hiked mountains, walked way off into the swamp,
I've walked, myles, you don't have to do it, you know,
(48:03):
you really don't save yourself the trouble. Just go camp somewhere, uh,
you know, suprimitive camping and and hope for the best.
Speaker 5 (48:14):
You know.
Speaker 3 (48:14):
It's it's if I go one hundred times, I'm probably
only gonna have activity maybe seven. It ain't it ain't
a it ain't a for sure thing, you know, unless
once you get dialed into an area you can kind
of get it down. But yeah, my advice, and people
would just be fall in love with camping man and
just go camp.
Speaker 2 (48:35):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 4 (48:37):
That's good advice.
Speaker 1 (48:40):
I would say, just go. Yeah, that's that's that's that's
the key, just go. My my, my encounters happened when
I I wasn't going out to camp or we're find Bigfoot.
I just happened to be out in the woods, you know,
doing whatever, or or at someone's house who said that
they had two clans of Bigfoot there. I said, yeah, sure, right,
(49:06):
sitting there eating my sandwich, looking out the window, and
boom there was I mean, it wanted me to see it, right,
The others didn't see it. It wanted me to see it.
And I know it's real. I guess they wanted me
to see it because I was busy doing the Georgia
the Bigfoot conferences. And I think they like the positive
(49:27):
publicity that they get because I'm you know, I just
let's talk about them like they remember the family, because
I think they are. But yeah, that's this has been great, Stacy.
These recollections that you had, these experiences you had, these
aligned one hun with the ones that I have had
(49:52):
and the ones that other real people who have had
real sightings have had and I just I'm just enjoyed
this so much, and we look forward to having you
at the Georgia Bigfoot Conference. That's gonna be the twenty
first and twenty second of March down there in your
Cornelia and Demerius, Georgia. It's gonna be a blast. We're
(50:16):
gonna have so much fun. We're gonna meet people who've
had experiences, people that want to have experiences, will laugh,
will talk, and I think the skeptics are afraid to
come around us because we're having too much fun. We
don't care what those skeptics say. Do you kind of agree?
Speaker 4 (50:34):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (50:35):
Yeah? And you know I tell everybody when I usually
give my presentations, I tell them all, like, y'all enjoy
this because outside of this room, everybody thinks we're all nuts.
So who cares? You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (50:51):
I think I like you said, when you said she
might be she might be crazy, but she ain't lyon right.
Speaker 1 (51:02):
Yeah, And you know, I had lunch with a fellow yesterday,
and whenever someone says, well, what do you do, I'm
not afraid to say, well, you know, I run conferences.
What kind of conferences?
Speaker 2 (51:15):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (51:16):
I run the Georgia Bigfoot Conference. Oh, and that always
brings a lot of a lot of reaction. And then
we started talking about UFOs said, and then this, this
gentleman said. We were having lunch at the Sea Captains,
a famous, famous restaurant on the very coast of Myrtle Beach.
(51:39):
And he asked me, he said, what was your first experience?
How did all this manifest itself? I said, do you
really want to know? He said sure. I said, well,
I was four years old and I lived up in
the mountains of North Carolina, and back in those days,
we didn't have air conditioning. We had found and it
(52:01):
was a Thursday afternoon, because that's the day that my
mother was off. She was a she was a nurse,
and she was off on Thursdays. And I walked into
my room and there were two space aliens sitting on
my window sill. And if that won't, if that won't
change your your life when you were four years old,
(52:23):
nothing will. I ran into the kitchen my mom was ironing.
I got her to come in. They were gone, but
I made her shut those windows and I kept I
kept the fan on and kept those windows shut forever.
In that little room, I wasn't gonna change. I wasn't
going to chance anything. But you know, I saw it.
It was there. They were there, they were smiling at me.
(52:44):
That's what was so creepy. Why were they smiling at me?
But anyway, yeah, and he just looked at me like
I had lost my mind, and I looked at him
like he had lost his mind. So I got back
at him. But yeah, you know, when you have your
first experience, not a lot you can do. I said,
(53:04):
I had mine when I was four years old. Then
I didn't have another one until I was thirty, and
so yeah, that one was that was the real thing.
So anyway, we're gonna share a lot of wonderful stories
at the Georgia Bigfoot Conference. Friday night is going to
be at R. M. Rose Distillery in mount Airy, Georgia.
(53:24):
We're gonna have a Bigfoot round table with you, with
Don Pardo, with Matt delf and Jessica Jones, all very close,
very good friends, and we're gonna have a blast. And
then Saturday is the big day with the speakers, the vendors,
and that's when we'll make a lot of new friends.
And I made a ton of friends doing this. I
(53:46):
guess that's the reason I really like it is I
think Bigfoot's fun and I make a lot of friends.
It's great, so so, Stacy, it has been great having
you here. I've got to ask you, would you come
back talk to Scary. I have enjoyed this so much,
Doctor Trey. I enjoy your questions. You do such a
(54:07):
good job. I mean what we do is different. We
just talk. We're kind of a couple, couple of nerdy
guys with doctorates. We got the I think the best
surgeon in the world over there in Camden. He is.
He's got such great insight, he has good questions to me.
I'm just kind of off the chain, out of control.
(54:28):
Been there, done that, and want to do it again.
But anyway, Stacy, thank you very much.
Speaker 4 (54:33):
I appreciate it help.
Speaker 2 (54:35):
It helps when you have somebody with compelling stories, with
really things that have the ring of authenticity, and then
it's easy to ask questions about that because you're just curious.
You want to know how you feel, what your reactions were.
And you've been great, Stacy, thank you.
Speaker 3 (54:56):
I appreciate it. Next time, let's talk about ghosts, because
I've got I saw it goes to the Lizzie Borden House.
We could talk about all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 1 (55:07):
I've been through.
Speaker 3 (55:07):
The dammit, I'll.
Speaker 1 (55:09):
Talk about my one bedroom conduct because I have a roommate. Yes,
mister Mansfield is here, and I like him, and I
feel good that he's here. It's nice not being alone.
And I know some people, I mean, you know, if
you get if you get up to one of those
houses like where they had the omen and all that stuff,
(55:29):
I'd be scared. But I'm not scared of mister Mansfield.
I think mister Mansfield is a good guy, and I
and I take comfort that he's here. I know I'm
not alone, and I think you know I'm lucky. So
look to Stacy. Thank you very much, Thank you, doctor
Trey Dunnaway. I'll be I'll do the call around after
we say Cyonara for tonight. But this has been another
(55:49):
landmark scary cast. It's been so much fun. I always
know that it's been a good scary cast when I
am smiling, and I got a huge smile on my face.
So thanks a lot, Stacy, Thanks doctor to Trey. We'll
see everybody next week on the one. There's only one
scary cast. Take care guys, good night.
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