March 12, 2025 • 52 mins
sica Jones, the Cryptid Huntress, is interviewed by Dr. John Stamey and Dr. Tray Dunaway.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Good evening in live from Myrtle Beach, South Carolina. This
is doctor John Stami and I want to welcome everyone
to Scary Cast. We've got an exceptional show tonight. First
of all, our co host is doctor Trey Dunaway, the
pre eminent surgeon from Camden, South Carolina.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
How are you, doctor Trey, Good John. I don't know
how pre eminent I am. I think I'm postement eminent.
I agree here.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
I think you're probably a pretty good surgeon, and I'm glad.
I'm glad to call you my doctor. So thanks a
lot for being here. We're glad to having you. And
tonight we have the one and only Jessica Jones. She
is a phenomenal researcher and just a cool person to
get to know and talk to. Good evening, Jessica. How
are you doing all?
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Hey, y'all, I am doing so good, excellent. Actually super
excited about the Georgia Bigfoot Conference coming up.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Man.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
I've had the best time at the past call conferences
that you've had, and I have been honored to be
a part of those conferences, and I'm super excited to
be a speaker at this coming conference.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Yeah, you are you and Stacy Brown are our keynote speakers,
and we're so happy that people are going to be
able to come and listen to all the great stories
that you've got about bigfoot. And we've been talking about
some other conferences that you're going to be a keynote
speaker at, especially Spooky Savannah, which is taking place the
(01:31):
first weekend in August, so that's going to be great.
So anyway, Jessica, start us off. Tell us about some
of your great experiences with bigfoot. We are excited.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Well, I have a bunch of experiences.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
You know.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
I've been a big foot field researcher since about twenty eleven,
and most of my research is done in Georgia and
in Florida, North Carolina, Tennessee, Alabama. And I guess from
the very first time that I ever went on a
bigfoot expedition back in twenty eleven, I've been having Bigfoot activity.
Not every time we go out in the woods, you know,
(02:08):
it's not every single time. We do spend a lot
of boots on the ground time out there, and we
have other stuff that happens that's not just Bigfoot activity
out there. And I'm actually you know, my radio name
when I was at Space out Radio was the Cryptid Huntress.
It kind of stuck. Okay, so I'm the cryptied Hundress.
So all in all, I go out and I investigate
(02:28):
all the cryptids, and so I pretty much experienced a few,
okay a few, but with Bigfoot, that's my bread and butter.
That's what I started off doing. And I just recently
had a trip out to Alabama with one of my teams.
I'm on four different field research teams, and one of
the teams, actually those guys are mostly from Tennessee. We
(02:51):
did a trip. We thought we were going to go
investigated dog men, you know, encounter that some of our
friends had out in the deep woods a national forest
out there, and we got out there and it ended
up being bigfoot. Actually that was that was harassing everybody
out there. And and so yeah, I I you know,
(03:12):
I take my my little hammock tent. I go become
bigfoot Burritos. That's what I like to call myself when
I'm out in the woods. Uh take my my my tent,
not my tent, it's a hammock, I call it. I
get my little hammock set up, and I know it
sounds really stupid. I do really stupid stuff for fun, okay,
and uh, and go camp out with the guys and
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and the ladies. We got ladies on our teams too.
But let's see one of the scariest, one of the
scariest times. Let's talk about the scariest thing that ever happened.
Because I try not to get scared. I've been doing
this for a long time, and I try to keep
my wits about me always. But but sometimes the scariest
encounters that we've had out in the woods with bigfoot
(03:57):
is not when we're out hiking through the woods trying
to hunt them down, you know, looking for them and
hiding in the woods actively searching for them. It's usually
when we're in our base camp and we have more activity,
sitting around the base camp, sitting around the fire, having fun, talking,
being normal, you know, being normal campers out there. The
Bigfoot's always come down to our base camp and check
(04:19):
us out. So that's actually really good advice. If anybody
wants to have a bigfoot encounter or to have some
sort of interaction with a bigfoot, you don't really have
to go looking for them. You just have to go
camping and get out in the woods. One of the
scariest encounters that I had was when we were out
in our base camp. This is in North Georgia, undisclosed location,
(04:41):
and we were all just kind of sitting around. We
had already been out in the field, you know, earlier
in the evening, and the team was we were up
at one of our scariest locations is where we always
have activity. There's always something scary that goes down, something
unexplained from and it's not just Bigfoot. We have UFO activity,
possible et stuff going on over there too. But this
(05:03):
one night, we were all sitting around the base camp
and we were not paying any attention. We weren't paying
a whole lot of attention to what was going on
around us because we were just happy to be hanging
out with our friends, my teammates. And out of the blue,
something came out right behind our tents where my tent was,
and screamed the loudest scream I've ever heard, the most unhuman,
(05:29):
non human scream. It was not an animal and it
was not a human, and it was the longest, loudest scream.
And I tell you what, and you could actually hear
is this thing, and I believe it was probably a bigfoot.
We're gonna say it's most likely was a bigfoot. I
don't know what else would have done this. But it
was right up behind where my tent was, and it
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screamed from I'm going to say it went about twenty
yards and it screamed the entire time, never stopped screaming.
It sounded like a it sounded like a woman crying,
kind of like a woman, but also like she was mad.
But then it sounded like an animal that it sounded
like a man. It was just the oddest thing. I
tell you what, I've never ready didn't like it. And
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it ran and it eventually it eventually got quiet, and
that night, I tell you what, it was really hard
to sleep on our base camp that night, very hard
to sleep, and not only because we were all a
little bit on edge about whatever that was that it screamed.
And we did go try to investigate. We didn't couldn't
find anything. There's no sign of it back there. But
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it threw stuff at our tents all night. All night,
we had rocks and acorns thrown at our tents until
the sun came up that next morning. And so that
was probably one of the more aggressive type of encounters
that I've had where something just came to us. It
basically came to us. We were obviously camping out in
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its territory. I think that's what happened. But that was
definitely one of the scariest experiences that I've had. And
now usually when we're out in the field, they like
to play around with this.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
You know.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
I I go out and do investigations and research where
we always go. We kind of try to hit up
the same spots over and over and over again, and
over the decades that I've been going out there. Uh,
we did. We go to the same spots because those
Bigfoots seem to know us out there, and uh and
I don't take strangers out there. And by strangers, I mean,
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you know, people that the Bigfoots wouldn't recognize. And the
one the one time I did. Okay, there's at least
one or one or two times where I had some
friends with me that weren't part of my team and uh,
and things got real dicey out there and it was
not it was not very comfortable. There was one night,
this was last year. Okay, so this is this is
really cool because this was the night of before the
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Georgia Bigfoot Conference last year. We were up in that area.
Think it's Ravend Counties where you had that conference, and
uh and down. I mean, it's not too far from
where the conference was, somewhere that I like to go
and hang out and try to get some bigfoot interaction.
And my friend Robbie Rains was with me. He came
up from South Carolina. He's a police officer. He came
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up to to hang out with us at the Georgia
Bigfoot Conference. And so he and I, I guess after
the after the meet and greet Friday night, he and
I were like, I looked at him and I was like, Hey,
do you want to go bigfooting tonight? He goes like, heck, yeah,
I dode And uh. He's actually a big footer as well.
He's got his he's got a podcast. He's on da
x mok in a podcast. And like I said, he's
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a he's a police officer. I felt I felt like
I was in good hands having a cop with me, Okay,
and uh. And so we went up to a couple
of different places and I know that you know, there's
some probably some good bigfoot activity up there, and we
went up to this one area and let me tell
you that I told just the night before the conference.
And so we went up there and we were just
(09:04):
having fun catching up with each other, and we parked
my truck and we walked up to this hill and
it's a place where I've had a lot of activity
in the past and it never disappoints. And he and
I were just sitting there and the crickets were really loud,
and that they were so loud that we couldn't hear
over each other as we were talking. So we started
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yelling like we were really loud. We were getting loud
as the crickets were getting loud, we were getting louder,
and at some point we were just screaming back and
forth at each other, talking, not really paying a whole
lot of attention to what's going on around us because
we were everything was so loud, and I was facing
one way and he was looking behind my shoulder, so
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I was looking behind him. He was looking behind me
as we were talking, and we were still screaming, and
all the crickets went mute, and it was the most
jarring thing that has happened a long time because it
almost made my heart stop, okay, because it was so
jarring is the word. And uh. And so we're sitting
(10:08):
there and he and I both, you know, coming from
the backgrounds of both of us knowing about bigfoot and knowing,
you know, being hunters and whatever, we know that when
something in the crickets and everything in the environment gets quiet,
there's a predator in the area, something big.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
And uh.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
So we were still screaming and it was really funny
because we were still being loud and the crickets had
gone quiet, and we just kind of sat there and
we looked at each other and we said, oh, they're here,
and uh and we both we were we were actually
sensing being surrounded by something. And uh. You know, sometimes
(10:47):
you might feel that, you know, if there's a bear
in the area, there's a cougar or something. You know,
you want to get out of there. But this is
a place where I know for a fact bigfoots are there.
Bigfoots are there, and they usually come out those don't
let us know they're out there, and this is one
of those occasions.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
And uh.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
And so we sat there for just a minute and
we started seeing big hulking figures slinking behind the trees
and kind of creeping up on us in the close
proximity to where we were standing around the tree line,
and I since one that was down by my truck. Okay,
so when I say we were surrounded, we were surrounded.
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And so he and I sat there for as long
as we could. We were just kind of taking it
all in. And when we realized that there was something
down by my vehicle, which was about I'm going to
say about seventy yards from where we were standing, we
decided it'd probably be safer to get down to the
truck and you know, get out of harm's way because
we it was getting uncomfortable for us, and we knew
(11:47):
that there were they were surrounding us, and so we
went down to my truck. And as we got down
to my truck, we looked back up on top of
the hill and there were two gigantic, hulking, shadowy figures
standing right where he and I had been standing. So
that's kind of how that's kind of how we roll.
You know, I go looking for the danger, and the
danger usually finds me, and it's usually a lot of fun.
(12:09):
It makes for some good stories, but also a great experience,
and so that's what happened. I'm hoping to maybe go
back there when we go to the Bigfoot conference on
March the twenty first. That night, I might be out
there looking for bigfoot again before the conference.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Wow, that would be great.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
I hope you have some real success trade. Do you
have any questions or comments for Jessica.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
We had a bigfoot hunter that was very interesting a
few weeks ago, and he echoes the same thing that
the easiest way to find a bigfoot is to let
them find you. And in fact, he said he is
only rarely has he encountered a bigfoot when he is
looking for a bigfoot actively walking in the woods, because
if they're aware where he is, they might not be
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there for long and leave before you see them. When
you said you go camping, do you go camping on
is it like a state park where there's a campsite
or is it a true backpacking where there's there's there's
a trail and and you camp at a place that's convenient.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
I do all of it, but we try to stay
away from people. Okay, so we tried it, so we
we It's very very rare that we ever go into
an actual campground where there are actual like other people,
we we go away so far out into the deep
woods that there's nobody out there. Ever, there's never anybody
out there except for potentially occasionally some loan backpackers and
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hikers will come through one of the trails or something.
But it's very rare, super rare. And uh and I
do a lot of our We do a lot of
our research in you know, state national parks, mostly national
forests and stuff like that, and on private land as well.
Whenever people have you know, bigfoot activity on their property
or some kind of activity on their property, will go
out and investigate. And but you know, I go all
(14:01):
over the South and New York. I just did some
big big footing in New York last year, So UH,
I do investigations. And Kate, we did a cave investigation
last year that was really creepy up in Tennessee. And
and like I said, I'm not just out there looking
for a big foot, you know, we're we're out there
looking for other cryptis as well. And we go wherever
the reports are. And whenever somebody has an issue with
(14:23):
something on their property, my team will will will load
up and head out there and go check it out
and spend a couple of nights out on the property.
So yeah, it just depends. But but the rule of
thumb is to stay away from people. Okay, stay away.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Yeah, you get a call from a from a landowner,
what what are what are some of the typical symptoms
that they've detected?
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Usually their their pets are missing, okay, and things like that,
Chickens are being taken out of their chicken coops, large
hulking figures are on their their cameras around their house.
It just depends. Things are awry on their property, you know,
dog food's going missing and stuff like that. Usually usually
it's the people who have first hand encounters with the
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bigfoots on their property or or potential dog men as well,
you know things that like wear wolves. It just it
just depends. It's really on a case by case basis.
We don't really go out to just anybody's property either.
I've got a pretty amazing team of guys. I'm on
four different teams. One of my teams the Cryptied, Well
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I call them cryptid Warfare, but it's Cryptid Warfare's survival
and operations. Okay, what they actually the field research team
is called, but we actually will go out to people's
places that we know, either we know one of us
knows them firsthand, or it's one of the guys that's
had an experience that's on the team, or it's someone
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like that we all kind of mutually know and we
have we get We do a thorough investigation of what's
going on at these homes and on these properties before
we ever go there, So we don't just go to,
you know, anybody's property if some random person calls us,
you know, they have to be vetted pretty heavily because
there's a lot of things that could go wrong, a
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lot of people who are not very truthful about stuff,
and you know, there's we're just very particular, let's just
say about where we go and do our investigations. And
it's a great because I've been doing this for a while.
I've got a lot of very good friends in the
research communities, boots on the ground, field researchers, so I'm
able to have a network of people to contact and
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to send out to places, you know, to see if
they want to go investigate, so we don't have to
go or I don't have to go and travel too
far I usually know somebody in a region that can go,
you know, check out some of these properties and stuff.
But we we kind of try to keep it.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
You know.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Our investigations are going to places where people have been
harassed or are in danger or in fear of their life.
That's what we do.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Wow, that's interesting. So this is doctor John, and I've
got a very important question for you. Do you normally
have a videographer out there with you to take pictures
and take video of what happens.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
No, because we are not public with that kind of stuff.
See that's the thing. I never went public with my
research for over ten years, doctor John. I never ever
meant to go public with what I do. I I
never wanted to go public. Of course, back when I started,
it was not as popular. Bigfoot was not as popular
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back then. And so now what we do is very
dangerous and we do not film it. We don't have
anybody to film. We need all hands on deck when
we're out there doing our investigations because a lot of
what we do is late at night. You know, we
have to we have to stake out areas, you know
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for the log haul and stuff. And so no, we don't.
We don't. We don't like people knowing where we're going
first of all, Okay, especially when it comes to researching.
All of our areas that we research are let's just
say classified. Okay, they're they're just we we do not
disclose our locations where where we're researching for the research
purposes because we don't want anybody to go there and
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screw up all our research. Honestly, and it's not that
we're being gatekeepers or anything. It's just sile. The research
is out there, but the investigations. Most of the people
who are having these problems with cryptids, you know, they
don't want to contact organizations. So just let's just say, like,
no shade to BFRO O. I love my friends that
are in BFRO, but some people have sent you know,
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reports into their organization and the next thing I know,
they've got black helicopters flying over their property and the
bigfoots are never seen again. You know, if they reported
they had bigfoots on their property and stuff. So it
people who maybe trust us and the people on my
team call us to come investigate over you know, organizations
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and stuff like that, because a lot of people just
want to remain anonymous and they don't want anyone else
getting involved, especially the government.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Okay, rightly, it's real funny that you mentioned BFRO, because
I know they're a credible research organization. I just had
someone from BFRO call me today and want to become
involved in Georgia Bigfoot conference, and I checked him out
while I was online. He seems like a pretty good guy.
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But you know, you have to be careful because I
am of the opinion that Bigfoot knows who's out there,
that Bigfoot knows more about the people researching him or
her than.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
We know about them. Do you agree?
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Yes? And you know, part of what my team has
been trained in for a long time is right after
we started doing our research, we were all trained as
a team in what is called remote viewing. And that
is actually because the guys whose team I joined, who
they asked me to join their team, were very much
into the mind, body, spirit aspect of Bigfoot, and they
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had all been researching Bigfoot for decades. Okay, so they
had been in it for a long time. They had
already established that Bigfoot is real, They already knew where
the bigfoots in their region were, and they had been
dealing with them for quite a while before they asked
me to join their team, and so that aspect had
already been covered. Their bigfoot's are real. Okay, let's move
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on to the next step. Let's communicate with them, and
so through that, you know, one of the at least
one of the guys, two of them have been trained
in remote viewing.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
A lot of the guys on my teams do have
military backgrounds. Okay, most most of the people on my
teams have some sort of military or law enforcement background
or some sort of some sort of interesting background. We
got a very diverse group, of course, on our teams.
But but you know, one of them said, hey, I
will teach the team remote viewing. Maybe this would be
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a great tool in our tool built when it comes
to the research of cryptids, because there is a telepathic
aspect to a lot of this. Okay, and and let's
let's see how it goes. And so over the next
several years we trained pretty extensively as a full team
in remote viewing, different modes of remote viewing, the same
type of remote viewing that our military uses. And so
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I even use it. I use it so much I
actually do a show on my YouTube channel the cryptd
Address every Thursday night. I'd cover some of the targets
that I have remote viewed on that show every Thursday night.
I love remove youing, but it really does work out
your psychic muscles, let's just say. And when it comes
to cryptid such as Bigfoot, sometimes they can connect with
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you telepathically and and they know they know that you're
coming out there to come see them before you go
out there, they know we're coming before we go. Not
that I'm not going to say they know we're coming
before we know we're coming, but they might, uh so.
But but yes, there's there's definitely a strange little element.
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I think it's it's not strange to me, but to
the normal person it would it would sound strange. But
there is an aspect of them knowing that we're coming
out there before we show up.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Got you now, doctor Trey, I'm going to ask you
a related question, if I may, You have been involved
in so many interactions with patients trying to figure out
what's wrong with them?
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Correct?
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Yes, And do you ever.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Or Jessica John has disappeared. He is now in black
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screen mode.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
He's definitely frozen. Maybe he'll come back, Maybe he'll come.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Back, he comes back from the void.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
He might come back from the void. I know I'm
wondering what he was about to ask.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
You don't know. Did I ever remote viewing back? Now
you can tell us what you were.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
Yes, we kept the converse station going, John, if you
can hear us.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Well, thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
I appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
There must be somebody trying to mess with my communication.
It might be Bigfoot, or it might be someone else.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Well, you were asking in my experience with patience, did
I ever? And then you blinked out right?
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Did you ever? Just you're there, You're talking to them,
and all of a sudden you got in your head
exactly what was wrong with him. You acted on it,
and you were correct.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
In twenty years of doing surgery, the answer is no. Now, really,
I wasn't tuned to the right channel.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Who knows, well, you were a great surgeon. And I
know that when I talk to you about my maladies
and ailments, you seem to always get everything figured out.
I know that when I have a problem, I think
about it for a bit and I forget about it,
and then all of a sudden the answer comes to me.
(25:09):
And Jessica is that the kind of experience that you
have with what you would call remote viewing.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
I mean I do get psychic hits, that's what you're
talking about, psite, That's what I call psychic hits. Yes, well,
remote viewing. Honestly, if I wanted to define what remote
viewing is to me, and there are people who say
their remote view see they haven't had the training in
remote viewing the kind that I have. So it's kind
of it's kind of funny talking about remote viewing because there,
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you know, I do a lot of conferences and stuff
where I do talk about my remote viewing and it's
more than just being getting psychic hits with what I do,
because it's actually a scientific method of utilizing your psychic
abilities to locate blind targets. I'm given a set of
coordinates and it's a set of coordinate numbers, very random numbers,
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and that's all I'm given for blind targets. I have
no idea what they are. And when I'm giving those
that set of numbers, I'm able to sit down and
map out and chart out all this information that channels
the channels basically through those numbers right there, and I'm
able to go through page after page of data. I
just get a whole bunch of data off those numbers,
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and that's that's remote viewing, right there.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
I do.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
I'm very psychic too, and doing the remote viewing has
made me even more psychic.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Okay, but you mentioned, you mentioned that the military use
remote viewing. I didn't know that. What what are their
applications for it?
Speaker 3 (26:48):
Well, back in the during the Cold War, of course,
Russia was using remote viewers. Their psychic spies is what
they're called. And so America needed to counter act those
Russian spies, so they had American psychic spies. And so
that's where they say it started. Now, they had different
projects called you can look up Project Stargate, Project Jedi,
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several several different programs that they use remote remote viewing in.
I actually have a good friend of mine who is
I think he's still active military. He is a sniper, okay,
in the military. He told me that they still to
this day have a remote viewer assigned to each unite
where he was working. Now, remote viewers are able to
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hone in and locate missing people, you know, weapons, stashes, okay,
anything that you need, anything that you want me to
psychically look into you can give me the even a location,
the coordinate, like a geographical location. I can remote view that.
I mean, I've given plenty of targets where I have
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you know, let's just say, for instance, I begive I
know some of these targets are very dangerous, and I
only trust the people who know how to task me
with targets to task me with targets because I can
get in a lot of trouble, you know, psychically speaking
from going places like Area fifty one and Dulse, you know,
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military base and where they do all the experiments and stuff.
So but they use it to I mean you can.
Actually it's so thorough that you can actually do deep
mind probes on people. I can do a deep mind
probe on someone and get into the head of someone.
Let's just say that has is holding hostages. I can
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get into the head. I can actually talk to hostages.
Anytime I'm remote viewing something and I pick up on
a person in the environment, I'm able to do a
deep mind probe and find out who they are, what
they need, what are they doing. You know, I'm tasked
with a lot of missing persons targets. Or I used
to be when I was especially the first few years
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and I started remote viewing, I was given high priority targets.
Let's just say, for instance, and the head of my
team would would send me a set of coordinates and
he'd say, okay, this is a high priority. So I
would drop everything I was doing and I would go
sit down in a quiet place and I would get
my pens and my paper and I would get the
coordinates and I would go into remote viewing mode. And
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I didn't know what those targets were. I mean, it
could be a statue, like a statue of liberty. I mean,
if it's a high priority, though it usually would be
a missing person, a missing child, a cold case. Okay,
you know, we work with law enforcement to help find
missing people and help try to solve cold cases. And
so I would sit down and get into these targets.
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And a lot of times, you know, if I'm watching
someone getting shot or stabbed or thrown into a lake,
you know, like a body getting thrown or something, people fighting,
I would I would go into this target, and I
would be able to as I'm in the target, I
would going in on that person, do a deep mindprobe
and ask what was going on, and they tell me psychically,
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I've actually helped find I'm going to say I actually
several of my targets. Let's just say I located where
the where the what happened to the people, and where
the bodies were going to be found. And that was
by doing a deep mind probe and asking them what
happened to them.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
So that's what our military real quickly if you did
a deep mind probe, were these people already did or
were they still alive?
Speaker 3 (30:37):
The majority of my targets, people were deceased, deceased. They're
usually dead. On the cold cases, they're usually deceased. Yeah,
I did. I did a case. Actually, I did a case.
I was asked to do a target for a missing
person's cold case that was out of Georgia, out of Kennesaw, Georgia.
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I think what was his name, Chase, Chase Masner maybe
or something like that. And at the time, they had
not found this guy and nobody knew where he was.
They suspected that maybe his wife had something to do
with his disappearance. And I was given a target, not
knowing what it was. It was given this target, and
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I went into this target and I just saw that
two guys had gotten into a fight. There was some
drugs involved in, some alcohol and stuff, and two guys
who in my data kept saying teammate, teammate, teammates, and
so I was like, okay, well, whatever this is. There's
two teammates. They got in a fight. Somebody accidentally unalive
is what we called on YouTube unlive. The other one
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he's dead. And when I saw this go down, I
did a deep mind probe on whoever I saw, whoever
I was honed in on. I did a deep mind probe,
and I said, all I could see I started getting
a visual of two eyes, but they were covered in mud.
The whole face was covered in mud. But I saw
two white eyes, and I said, you know, I asked
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the guy. I knew it was a man. I could
tell it was a man. I said, what what happened
to you? And he kept saying, I'm locked up, I'm
locked up, I can't get out, and I'm down here.
He kept saying I'm down here, and he was covered
in mud, and so I was like, okay. So I
got out of this target and I contacted the guy
from the show and I told him, I said, you know,
here's my data there's There were two guys. They got
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in a fight. There was some drug use involved though
some alcohol stuff went down. They were having a good
time and then there was I think it was an
accidental you know, I say unliven because I have a
YouTube channel. Okay, So he died one of them accidentally
hurt the other one and it's his teammate. They were teammates,
and he buried him somewhere. He's buried in the vicinity.
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He's buried. The body was buried.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
And.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
The gentleman from the show was like, no, we've already
checked his He went home one night, I got in
a fight with his wife and he had been at work.
And I know we're here to talk about the Georgia
Bigfoot comerdce y'all, I'm sorry, I'll talk about this, but Georgia.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
So no, I'm sorry. We're here to talk about what
you want to talk about because you are our guest,
and you are an infinitely interesting guest. All right, I'll
back off.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
Well, I'll just finish it up real quick, because I
was just I was just going to finish that little
little segment. It turned out they said to know that
his friend had nothing to do with it, and they
still thought it was his wife. And I was like, well,
somebody's going to run away. I kept getting run away
in my data as well, and UH, and it turned
out they said that no, the best friend, his friend
he worked with, had checked out, there's no way he
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could have done it. And then about a month later,
guess what they found out. Uh, the guy his friend
he had gone to a home from work with that night, UH,
had actually gotten in a fight with him and something
happened or I think he died and his friend buried
him underneath the back porch of his house. And UH
and sold the house and took off, and the new
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tenants found tried to build a new addition onto their porch,
and they found his body under the under the porch.
So I was right, and I was right even though
they told me there's no way. But that's what That's
what remote viewing is. So that that is, that is
how you utilize it. That's how our military utilizes it
to with with cases you know that that involved national
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security and things like that.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
Well, Tessica, after after the body was found discovered again, uh,
did you try to remote view? And asked the guy
a follow up no, like are you happy now or
I mean, do you do that?
Speaker 3 (34:47):
No, I don't see because I get these as blind targets,
so I don't know what I'm remote viewing when I
get them. I just get a set of numbers. And
so no, I didn't go back, you know. It was
it was I felt good that I it can that
I was correct and I was on target as we
call it. But you know, from there, it's it is
what it is. I was just glad that I was
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able to do that. But of course I never got
any kind of callback from the from that show. It
was like, oh, you were right, you know, and that's okay.
I wasn't expecting any kind of you know, pat on
the back for it, you know, of course, but I
was right, okay, even though they told me that there's
no way I could be right, I ended up being right.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
When now it is it important to have the coordinates?
That are the coordinates like map coordinates.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
Only they can be but no, they're just random numbers,
random numbers. Two sets. It's two sets of four numbers,
so eight numbers total, and they're totally random, but they
are assigned to a target. We call them coordinates. It
can be just completely random numbers, but they're assigned to
each of the targets that I get.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
And how did they determine what those numbers will be?
Speaker 3 (35:59):
You just make them up. You just make them up.
I know it sounds really weird and really wild, but
that's just how it works works.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Give you a handle for whoever you're looking for, and
that becomes their number, and just having them name that number.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
Yeah, it could be something like that. Well, you have
to you have to know how to word the target
just right, depending upon what you want me to find, Okay,
And and so that's up to the tasker. There's a
lot of training that goes into all this too. And
uh and so the person who tasked me is usually
the head of my team. And there's there's one other
gentleman that I allow to give me targets and he
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and I do a lot of work together as well.
I've taught him how to task me with targets. We
get some good data out of them. But it's it's
very useful in the cryptied research community in this field
because it's just a great tool to have in your
tool belt. There's so many different modes of remote viewing
and when we're out in the field and we hear
let's just say, for instance, we hear a scream or
we have something really free, something crazy that happens, and
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we like, we have missing time. Okay, missing time is
a big thing that happens to a lot of researchers
out in the field where time we just don't know
where the time goes, time standstills time. You know, we
think we're out in some place like our our equipment
will malfunction and the digital clocks will go wonky, and
everybody's time changes on their devices, and we're like, well,
(37:24):
maybe we had an alien abduction or something. I mean,
I don't we don't know what happened. Well, we're able,
so we can actually go into like an our we
call it our V mode, and right there on the spot,
pretty much we can we can go into a different
type of mode, like different types of a different mode
of like remote viewing, where we can kind of hone
in psychically into whatever just happened and stuff. So I
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think it's kind of cool because I do believe that
bigfoots are highly telepathic. Not maybe not all of them,
you know, I don't know if I don't know if
all of them utilize it. I think there's so many
different levels of intelligence when it comes to bigfoots, just
like humans. Okay, just like humans. There's a lot of
different levels of intelligence with humans and with bigfoot Sometimes
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you're going to find bigfoots out there that are just
looking for food all day. You know, they're looking for food.
They're just hungry. There are others that speak, highly intelligent,
highly telepathic, and so it just runs the you know,
the whole range of them, and and it's really cool
to potentially be able to communicate with them out there,
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getting on that level, getting on their frequency. That's the key,
is to get on their frequency so that you can
do a little communication with them.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
All Right, you know what, Jessica, I've got something I
want to report about an incident with you that you
didn't realize was actually an incident, and I think it's
something that is, you know, it is worth studying. I
had asked you to do a remote view of a
(39:02):
particular incident that happened in Georgia. After I'd asked you,
you said, well, you know, I normally do this on
Thursday nights, And by about Wednesday I realized that I
really didn't want you to remote you this because there
(39:23):
were certain problems with this event. It had to do
with a murder, and it had to do with some
very powerful people, and I just decided that I really
didn't want you to do it, but I didn't want
to call you.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
Evidently, this is another one of those examples where John's
not calling him.
Speaker 3 (39:59):
He froze again, but you know he'll be back in
just a second, he keeps coming. We're actually having a
windstorm out here right now.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
Yeah, the wind the winds are picking up.
Speaker 3 (40:09):
Yeah, that may be what's going on where he is too.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
Forgot used for some reason, forgot about or whatever about
this target that I gave you, and then all of
a sudden, I didn't want you to do it, and
then you forgot to do it.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
Do you remember that.
Speaker 3 (40:26):
I think I do? I think I do. Was it
was recent, right, Yes?
Speaker 2 (40:30):
It was.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
It was a three weeks ago. And I don't want,
I do not want to mention the name because that
I believe that would get us in more trouble than
you would ever believe.
Speaker 3 (40:42):
Yeah, you know, some of these targets can be really dangerous.
They really can. And that's why we got to be
real careful about about about the things that I look into,
and uh, you know, there's there's been at least a
couple of targets like let me tell you something, there
are a couple of targets that are completely off and
if I were to remote view those and report it
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to the public, I would get a proverbial knock at
my door. And I already have one time. I've gotten
a knock at my door John for remote viewing. Guess
what it was? Take a while, yes, the moon?
Speaker 1 (41:16):
Oh oh okay, yeah, right, I know all about it.
I know all about that. I know Ingo Swan's research,
and uh I have I have always been terrified that
I would get a knock at my door. I haven't.
I guess I'm lucky, but yeah, you can. You know,
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I think if you're a remote viewer, you know when
you're delving in something that's going to cause you trouble.
Do you agree with me?
Speaker 3 (41:48):
Yes, That's why I only truy. I only take targets
from people that I trust that aren't gonna send me
down a rabbit hole of destruction. Yeah, I actually so.
I had remote viewed a while back. I was given
the target of the Apollo eleven moon landing, and uh
and I and I did it, and let me tell
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you that was just a bad idea, really bad idea.
I was actually going to do a show and I'd
gotten a little too comfortable with all the shows that
I do, and I decided to go ahead and do
a show on it. And about two hours before I
aired that show, I got a I got a pretty
stern warning. It was a I take it as a
I mean I was. I was glad that I got
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it actually, uh so that I kind of backed off
of what I was going to do that night. But
but yeah, it was a gentle reminder to keep my
mouth shut when it came to some of that stuve.
And it's it's terrible that you know that there's such
a such a you know, I don't know a block
on it. I guess let's just call it a block. Okay.
(42:51):
There's there's certain people that don't want us to know
what's going on with the moon, I think, and uh,
and it may not just be the moon it made
that moon landing. I think it was mostly the moon
landing that had that had issues. And so I really
don't I don't talk about it very much. You know,
I got really sweaty that night when I ended up
(43:13):
doing a show on it and stuff. But I kind
of backed off of some of the data I was
going to talk about, and and I just have to say,
not everything is as it seems. There are things that
we've been taught. It's not all true. Okay, that's all
I'm gonna say.
Speaker 1 (43:28):
Well, well, certainly, I mean and I can certainly concur
with you, and I'll say this, and I hope no
one knocks at my door. But you know, Stanley, Stanley
Kubrick has passed away. And and since I believe that
he directed the footage of the moon landing, well you
know whatever.
Speaker 3 (43:48):
Yeah, I believe we're up there. I just don't know.
I don't know about the whole that that mission. Okay,
there's a lot of anomalies to it. And there's a
reason that all of those astronauts have stars on the
Hollywood would Walk of Fame. I'm just saying.
Speaker 1 (44:04):
That that is true. All right. Well, I tell you, well,
we have had a wonderful time talking to you. And
I'm gonna give doctor Trey Dunaway, as I do many times,
the last word, because he is a science he is
truly a scientist. He is as a medical doctor. And
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I'll say this.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
Or maybe he won't say this.
Speaker 3 (44:36):
He'll see it in just a minute. When he comes back,
he's frozen again.
Speaker 2 (44:47):
Maybe maybe the knock on the door. Maybe maybe somebody
knocked there you are, John knocking on your door and
you had to go answer.
Speaker 1 (44:59):
But so any wait, what you've got the last word
on tonight's show.
Speaker 2 (45:04):
Well, I tell you what I expected to talk about Bigfoot.
But the fact that the military uses remote viewing tells
me that, you know, I'm always looking for proof. Existence
give me proof and indirectly if the military is truly
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involved in this for decades, and this is something the
military does. The military is especially with DOGE working, You're
not going to be with money on things that don't work.
So I found the remote viewing absolutely fascinating. And Jessica,
I'd love to have you come back. We just do
(45:47):
a remote viewing episode. But let me remote viewing. If
you decided yourself you'd like to remote view the moon,
could you do that or do you have to have coordinates?
Speaker 3 (46:06):
Well, you know it works best if I have someone
that gives me the coordinates. Okay, technically remote viewing is
blind targets. Okay. It consists of getting a blind target. Now,
I've been doing it a long time and I can
do a front load of target if I wanted to do.
Here's the thing, I can psychically look into stuff. Many
(46:30):
would not consider that remote viewing. But I can psychically
look into things and I don't have to have a
set of coordinates. Absolutely, I'm pretty good at what I do. Yeah,
so I could, and I have remote viewed. Listen, I
have remote viewed plenty of moon targets. Okay. But it's
the Apollo eleven. And it was also doing that publicly
as well was the issue, I think. And you know, actually,
(46:53):
as a matter of fact, I'm considering talking publicly this
Thursday night on the I did remote viewing target a
long time ago of a crashed ship on the Moon. Okay,
And they say that I believe that. They say that
some astronauts went on, like Apollo twenty or something maybe
(47:13):
had gone and examine this ship. Now I can't say
that that's real. I don't know, but I can say
that I have remote viewed a crashed ship. It's like
two miles long. It's like a mile or two miles long,
and I'm maybe discussing that on my show this week.
So I'm going to I'm gonna I'm going to go
out on a limb and maybe maybe discuss that this week.
Speaker 2 (47:36):
Well, I think it would be great to have a
just discussion on remote viewing and would you have any
military friends that might like to come on the show
with you to it. It's always interesting to watch two
people talking the same language. That know, when you can
complete other people's sentences, then you really get the idea that.
Speaker 3 (47:58):
You Yeah, you know what if I could get Trey
Hudson to come on here with me, I bet he
talked about it. I know John, you know Trey.
Speaker 1 (48:06):
Uh, that was exactly the name that that came into
my mind obviously.
Speaker 3 (48:13):
Yea Tree is one of my teammates. I'm on one
of his teams and we've we're we're all on the
same teams like we were. We cross reference teams here
like uh. And so he is the head of a
normal studies an observation group and he is he's done.
He's been in the training as long as I have.
We've been training together and remote viewing for a long time.
And he just retired from the Department of Defense. He
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worked in intelligence. Okay, so he I'm sure he would
love to come on. It's just a matter of of
making sure we can schedule a good time or we
can all be here.
Speaker 2 (48:45):
And back to your comment, John, can you remote view
a patient and find an area of concern in the
human body?
Speaker 3 (48:59):
I could? Yeah, we do. We can do psychic body
scans and stuff too. You know, that's the thing. I've
done it before actually with part of our remote viewing training.
We we have done things like that. And you know,
some people are actually trained, like I'm personally trained in
something called breaky and uh and I'm only trained in
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level one. So it's very basic, right, but it's it's
I've got the basic skills down. But it's a it's
an energy healing type of thing. And we learned in
that as well to do body scans. But it's all
you know, quant quantum healing. I guess you could call it.
Speaker 2 (49:36):
That might have been a helpful thing as a surgeon.
And I we wouldn't have to send them over to
get an altar centered of their golf. I could just
you could, he could.
Speaker 3 (49:45):
I mean, it's worth it's worth a try. I don't
know when all those fells send them over. No, I
don't know will cover it though.
Speaker 2 (49:54):
I don't know. Yeah, they don't like to cover anything anyway.
Speaker 3 (49:59):
I know, right, might as well send him over, send
him to me. I'll do it. Target, give me, send
me some cordinates.
Speaker 2 (50:04):
We'll get your remote payment.
Speaker 3 (50:07):
For quantum payment, right. What the heck?
Speaker 2 (50:12):
You know?
Speaker 1 (50:12):
It's it's so funny that you mentioned quantum healing because
I'm sitting here with Deepak Chopper's book Quantum Healing, and
I can't wait to read it.
Speaker 2 (50:21):
I just I got he needs he needs to put
his his audio on quantum healing. I think he has.
Speaker 3 (50:32):
Quantum audio right now. Actually I can feel it, but
I can't see it. Okay, I know he's there. He's here,
but he's just not we can't hear him right now,
but he's here.
Speaker 2 (50:43):
Hopefully you need to that. I think we need to
steck out.
Speaker 1 (50:51):
So anyway, Jessica, I want to say thank you very
much for being our guest tonight. You're going to be
one of the one of the two keynote speakers for
Georgia Bigfoot. We would like to get you on here.
I will coordinate with you and we'll see if we
can get Trey Hudson on here. I've had Trey on
a couple of times, and it would love to have
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you and Trey on with Doctor Trey and I and
we'll have we'll have a good time and all that. So, Jessica,
thank you very much for being our guest tonight on
Scary Cast.
Speaker 3 (51:25):
Thank you for having me. This is always it's always fun.
I've never not had fun on here.
Speaker 1 (51:31):
Yeah. Well good And Doctor Cray, thank you for being
my co host. You've been the best co host I
could have ever had. So look, thanks a lot, and
we'll see everybody next time.
Speaker 2 (51:42):
Yes, do what a pre eminent co host?
Speaker 1 (51:46):
You're pre eminent. Okay, that's great.
Speaker 2 (51:49):
Eminent surgeon, a pre eminent co host. There you go.
Speaker 1 (51:53):
Okay, great, all right, we'll see everybody next time on
the One and Only Scary Cast.
Speaker 2 (52:00):
Bye everybody, good night, John Bye,
Good evening in live from Myrtle Beach, South Carolina. This
is doctor John Stami and I want to welcome everyone
to Scary Cast. We've got an exceptional show tonight. First
of all, our co host is doctor Trey Dunaway, the
pre eminent surgeon from Camden, South Carolina.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
How are you, doctor Trey, Good John. I don't know
how pre eminent I am. I think I'm postement eminent.
I agree here.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
I think you're probably a pretty good surgeon, and I'm glad.
I'm glad to call you my doctor. So thanks a
lot for being here. We're glad to having you. And
tonight we have the one and only Jessica Jones. She
is a phenomenal researcher and just a cool person to
get to know and talk to. Good evening, Jessica. How
are you doing all?
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Hey, y'all, I am doing so good, excellent. Actually super
excited about the Georgia Bigfoot Conference coming up.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Man.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
I've had the best time at the past call conferences
that you've had, and I have been honored to be
a part of those conferences, and I'm super excited to
be a speaker at this coming conference.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Yeah, you are you and Stacy Brown are our keynote speakers,
and we're so happy that people are going to be
able to come and listen to all the great stories
that you've got about bigfoot. And we've been talking about
some other conferences that you're going to be a keynote
speaker at, especially Spooky Savannah, which is taking place the
(01:31):
first weekend in August, so that's going to be great.
So anyway, Jessica, start us off. Tell us about some
of your great experiences with bigfoot. We are excited.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Well, I have a bunch of experiences.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
You know.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
I've been a big foot field researcher since about twenty eleven,
and most of my research is done in Georgia and
in Florida, North Carolina, Tennessee, Alabama. And I guess from
the very first time that I ever went on a
bigfoot expedition back in twenty eleven, I've been having Bigfoot activity.
Not every time we go out in the woods, you know,
(02:08):
it's not every single time. We do spend a lot
of boots on the ground time out there, and we
have other stuff that happens that's not just Bigfoot activity
out there. And I'm actually you know, my radio name
when I was at Space out Radio was the Cryptid Huntress.
It kind of stuck. Okay, so I'm the cryptied Hundress.
So all in all, I go out and I investigate
(02:28):
all the cryptids, and so I pretty much experienced a few,
okay a few, but with Bigfoot, that's my bread and butter.
That's what I started off doing. And I just recently
had a trip out to Alabama with one of my teams.
I'm on four different field research teams, and one of
the teams, actually those guys are mostly from Tennessee. We
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did a trip. We thought we were going to go
investigated dog men, you know, encounter that some of our
friends had out in the deep woods a national forest
out there, and we got out there and it ended
up being bigfoot. Actually that was that was harassing everybody
out there. And and so yeah, I I you know,
(03:12):
I take my my little hammock tent. I go become
bigfoot Burritos. That's what I like to call myself when
I'm out in the woods. Uh take my my my tent,
not my tent, it's a hammock, I call it. I
get my little hammock set up, and I know it
sounds really stupid. I do really stupid stuff for fun, okay,
and uh, and go camp out with the guys and
(03:35):
and the ladies. We got ladies on our teams too.
But let's see one of the scariest, one of the
scariest times. Let's talk about the scariest thing that ever happened.
Because I try not to get scared. I've been doing
this for a long time, and I try to keep
my wits about me always. But but sometimes the scariest
encounters that we've had out in the woods with bigfoot
(03:57):
is not when we're out hiking through the woods trying
to hunt them down, you know, looking for them and
hiding in the woods actively searching for them. It's usually
when we're in our base camp and we have more activity,
sitting around the base camp, sitting around the fire, having fun, talking,
being normal, you know, being normal campers out there. The
Bigfoot's always come down to our base camp and check
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us out. So that's actually really good advice. If anybody
wants to have a bigfoot encounter or to have some
sort of interaction with a bigfoot, you don't really have
to go looking for them. You just have to go
camping and get out in the woods. One of the
scariest encounters that I had was when we were out
in our base camp. This is in North Georgia, undisclosed location,
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and we were all just kind of sitting around. We
had already been out in the field, you know, earlier
in the evening, and the team was we were up
at one of our scariest locations is where we always
have activity. There's always something scary that goes down, something
unexplained from and it's not just Bigfoot. We have UFO activity,
possible et stuff going on over there too. But this
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one night, we were all sitting around the base camp
and we were not paying any attention. We weren't paying
a whole lot of attention to what was going on
around us because we were just happy to be hanging
out with our friends, my teammates. And out of the blue,
something came out right behind our tents where my tent was,
and screamed the loudest scream I've ever heard, the most unhuman,
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non human scream. It was not an animal and it
was not a human, and it was the longest, loudest scream.
And I tell you what, and you could actually hear
is this thing, and I believe it was probably a bigfoot.
We're gonna say it's most likely was a bigfoot. I
don't know what else would have done this. But it
was right up behind where my tent was, and it
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screamed from I'm going to say it went about twenty
yards and it screamed the entire time, never stopped screaming.
It sounded like a it sounded like a woman crying,
kind of like a woman, but also like she was mad.
But then it sounded like an animal that it sounded
like a man. It was just the oddest thing. I
tell you what, I've never ready didn't like it. And
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it ran and it eventually it eventually got quiet, and
that night, I tell you what, it was really hard
to sleep on our base camp that night, very hard
to sleep, and not only because we were all a
little bit on edge about whatever that was that it screamed.
And we did go try to investigate. We didn't couldn't
find anything. There's no sign of it back there. But
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it threw stuff at our tents all night. All night,
we had rocks and acorns thrown at our tents until
the sun came up that next morning. And so that
was probably one of the more aggressive type of encounters
that I've had where something just came to us. It
basically came to us. We were obviously camping out in
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its territory. I think that's what happened. But that was
definitely one of the scariest experiences that I've had. And
now usually when we're out in the field, they like
to play around with this.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
You know.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
I I go out and do investigations and research where
we always go. We kind of try to hit up
the same spots over and over and over again, and
over the decades that I've been going out there. Uh,
we did. We go to the same spots because those
Bigfoots seem to know us out there, and uh and
I don't take strangers out there. And by strangers, I mean,
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you know, people that the Bigfoots wouldn't recognize. And the
one the one time I did. Okay, there's at least
one or one or two times where I had some
friends with me that weren't part of my team and uh,
and things got real dicey out there and it was
not it was not very comfortable. There was one night,
this was last year. Okay, so this is this is
really cool because this was the night of before the
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Georgia Bigfoot Conference last year. We were up in that area.
Think it's Ravend Counties where you had that conference, and
uh and down. I mean, it's not too far from
where the conference was, somewhere that I like to go
and hang out and try to get some bigfoot interaction.
And my friend Robbie Rains was with me. He came
up from South Carolina. He's a police officer. He came
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up to to hang out with us at the Georgia
Bigfoot Conference. And so he and I, I guess after
the after the meet and greet Friday night, he and
I were like, I looked at him and I was like, Hey,
do you want to go bigfooting tonight? He goes like, heck, yeah,
I dode And uh. He's actually a big footer as well.
He's got his he's got a podcast. He's on da
x mok in a podcast. And like I said, he's
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a he's a police officer. I felt I felt like
I was in good hands having a cop with me, Okay,
and uh. And so we went up to a couple
of different places and I know that you know, there's
some probably some good bigfoot activity up there, and we
went up to this one area and let me tell
you that I told just the night before the conference.
And so we went up there and we were just
(09:04):
having fun catching up with each other, and we parked
my truck and we walked up to this hill and
it's a place where I've had a lot of activity
in the past and it never disappoints. And he and
I were just sitting there and the crickets were really loud,
and that they were so loud that we couldn't hear
over each other as we were talking. So we started
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yelling like we were really loud. We were getting loud
as the crickets were getting loud, we were getting louder,
and at some point we were just screaming back and
forth at each other, talking, not really paying a whole
lot of attention to what's going on around us because
we were everything was so loud, and I was facing
one way and he was looking behind my shoulder, so
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I was looking behind him. He was looking behind me
as we were talking, and we were still screaming, and
all the crickets went mute, and it was the most
jarring thing that has happened a long time because it
almost made my heart stop, okay, because it was so
jarring is the word. And uh. And so we're sitting
(10:08):
there and he and I both, you know, coming from
the backgrounds of both of us knowing about bigfoot and knowing,
you know, being hunters and whatever, we know that when
something in the crickets and everything in the environment gets quiet,
there's a predator in the area, something big.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
And uh.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
So we were still screaming and it was really funny
because we were still being loud and the crickets had
gone quiet, and we just kind of sat there and
we looked at each other and we said, oh, they're here,
and uh and we both we were we were actually
sensing being surrounded by something. And uh. You know, sometimes
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you might feel that, you know, if there's a bear
in the area, there's a cougar or something. You know,
you want to get out of there. But this is
a place where I know for a fact bigfoots are there.
Bigfoots are there, and they usually come out those don't
let us know they're out there, and this is one
of those occasions.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
And uh.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
And so we sat there for just a minute and
we started seeing big hulking figures slinking behind the trees
and kind of creeping up on us in the close
proximity to where we were standing around the tree line,
and I since one that was down by my truck. Okay,
so when I say we were surrounded, we were surrounded.
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And so he and I sat there for as long
as we could. We were just kind of taking it
all in. And when we realized that there was something
down by my vehicle, which was about I'm going to
say about seventy yards from where we were standing, we
decided it'd probably be safer to get down to the
truck and you know, get out of harm's way because
we it was getting uncomfortable for us, and we knew
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that there were they were surrounding us, and so we
went down to my truck. And as we got down
to my truck, we looked back up on top of
the hill and there were two gigantic, hulking, shadowy figures
standing right where he and I had been standing. So
that's kind of how that's kind of how we roll.
You know, I go looking for the danger, and the
danger usually finds me, and it's usually a lot of fun.
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It makes for some good stories, but also a great experience,
and so that's what happened. I'm hoping to maybe go
back there when we go to the Bigfoot conference on
March the twenty first. That night, I might be out
there looking for bigfoot again before the conference.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Wow, that would be great.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
I hope you have some real success trade. Do you
have any questions or comments for Jessica.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
We had a bigfoot hunter that was very interesting a
few weeks ago, and he echoes the same thing that
the easiest way to find a bigfoot is to let
them find you. And in fact, he said he is
only rarely has he encountered a bigfoot when he is
looking for a bigfoot actively walking in the woods, because
if they're aware where he is, they might not be
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there for long and leave before you see them. When
you said you go camping, do you go camping on
is it like a state park where there's a campsite
or is it a true backpacking where there's there's there's
a trail and and you camp at a place that's convenient.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
I do all of it, but we try to stay
away from people. Okay, so we tried it, so we
we It's very very rare that we ever go into
an actual campground where there are actual like other people,
we we go away so far out into the deep
woods that there's nobody out there. Ever, there's never anybody
out there except for potentially occasionally some loan backpackers and
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hikers will come through one of the trails or something.
But it's very rare, super rare. And uh and I
do a lot of our We do a lot of
our research in you know, state national parks, mostly national
forests and stuff like that, and on private land as well.
Whenever people have you know, bigfoot activity on their property
or some kind of activity on their property, will go
out and investigate. And but you know, I go all
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over the South and New York. I just did some
big big footing in New York last year, So UH,
I do investigations. And Kate, we did a cave investigation
last year that was really creepy up in Tennessee. And
and like I said, I'm not just out there looking
for a big foot, you know, we're we're out there
looking for other cryptis as well. And we go wherever
the reports are. And whenever somebody has an issue with
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something on their property, my team will will will load
up and head out there and go check it out
and spend a couple of nights out on the property.
So yeah, it just depends. But but the rule of
thumb is to stay away from people. Okay, stay away.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Yeah, you get a call from a from a landowner,
what what are what are some of the typical symptoms
that they've detected?
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Usually their their pets are missing, okay, and things like that,
Chickens are being taken out of their chicken coops, large
hulking figures are on their their cameras around their house.
It just depends. Things are awry on their property, you know,
dog food's going missing and stuff like that. Usually usually
it's the people who have first hand encounters with the
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bigfoots on their property or or potential dog men as well,
you know things that like wear wolves. It just it
just depends. It's really on a case by case basis.
We don't really go out to just anybody's property either.
I've got a pretty amazing team of guys. I'm on
four different teams. One of my teams the Cryptied, Well
(15:33):
I call them cryptid Warfare, but it's Cryptid Warfare's survival
and operations. Okay, what they actually the field research team
is called, but we actually will go out to people's
places that we know, either we know one of us
knows them firsthand, or it's one of the guys that's
had an experience that's on the team, or it's someone
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like that we all kind of mutually know and we
have we get We do a thorough investigation of what's
going on at these homes and on these properties before
we ever go there, So we don't just go to,
you know, anybody's property if some random person calls us,
you know, they have to be vetted pretty heavily because
there's a lot of things that could go wrong, a
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lot of people who are not very truthful about stuff,
and you know, there's we're just very particular, let's just
say about where we go and do our investigations. And
it's a great because I've been doing this for a while.
I've got a lot of very good friends in the
research communities, boots on the ground, field researchers, so I'm
able to have a network of people to contact and
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to send out to places, you know, to see if
they want to go investigate, so we don't have to
go or I don't have to go and travel too
far I usually know somebody in a region that can go,
you know, check out some of these properties and stuff.
But we we kind of try to keep it.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
You know.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Our investigations are going to places where people have been
harassed or are in danger or in fear of their life.
That's what we do.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Wow, that's interesting. So this is doctor John, and I've
got a very important question for you. Do you normally
have a videographer out there with you to take pictures
and take video of what happens.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
No, because we are not public with that kind of stuff.
See that's the thing. I never went public with my
research for over ten years, doctor John. I never ever
meant to go public with what I do. I I
never wanted to go public. Of course, back when I started,
it was not as popular. Bigfoot was not as popular
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back then. And so now what we do is very
dangerous and we do not film it. We don't have
anybody to film. We need all hands on deck when
we're out there doing our investigations because a lot of
what we do is late at night. You know, we
have to we have to stake out areas, you know
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for the log haul and stuff. And so no, we don't.
We don't. We don't like people knowing where we're going
first of all, Okay, especially when it comes to researching.
All of our areas that we research are let's just
say classified. Okay, they're they're just we we do not
disclose our locations where where we're researching for the research
purposes because we don't want anybody to go there and
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screw up all our research. Honestly, and it's not that
we're being gatekeepers or anything. It's just sile. The research
is out there, but the investigations. Most of the people
who are having these problems with cryptids, you know, they
don't want to contact organizations. So just let's just say, like,
no shade to BFRO O. I love my friends that
are in BFRO, but some people have sent you know,
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reports into their organization and the next thing I know,
they've got black helicopters flying over their property and the
bigfoots are never seen again. You know, if they reported
they had bigfoots on their property and stuff. So it
people who maybe trust us and the people on my
team call us to come investigate over you know, organizations
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and stuff like that, because a lot of people just
want to remain anonymous and they don't want anyone else
getting involved, especially the government.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Okay, rightly, it's real funny that you mentioned BFRO, because
I know they're a credible research organization. I just had
someone from BFRO call me today and want to become
involved in Georgia Bigfoot conference, and I checked him out
while I was online. He seems like a pretty good guy.
(19:43):
But you know, you have to be careful because I
am of the opinion that Bigfoot knows who's out there,
that Bigfoot knows more about the people researching him or
her than.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
We know about them. Do you agree?
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Yes? And you know, part of what my team has
been trained in for a long time is right after
we started doing our research, we were all trained as
a team in what is called remote viewing. And that
is actually because the guys whose team I joined, who
they asked me to join their team, were very much
into the mind, body, spirit aspect of Bigfoot, and they
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had all been researching Bigfoot for decades. Okay, so they
had been in it for a long time. They had
already established that Bigfoot is real, They already knew where
the bigfoots in their region were, and they had been
dealing with them for quite a while before they asked
me to join their team, and so that aspect had
already been covered. Their bigfoot's are real. Okay, let's move
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on to the next step. Let's communicate with them, and
so through that, you know, one of the at least
one of the guys, two of them have been trained
in remote viewing.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
A lot of the guys on my teams do have
military backgrounds. Okay, most most of the people on my
teams have some sort of military or law enforcement background
or some sort of some sort of interesting background. We
got a very diverse group, of course, on our teams.
But but you know, one of them said, hey, I
will teach the team remote viewing. Maybe this would be
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a great tool in our tool built when it comes
to the research of cryptids, because there is a telepathic
aspect to a lot of this. Okay, and and let's
let's see how it goes. And so over the next
several years we trained pretty extensively as a full team
in remote viewing, different modes of remote viewing, the same
type of remote viewing that our military uses. And so
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I even use it. I use it so much I
actually do a show on my YouTube channel the cryptd
Address every Thursday night. I'd cover some of the targets
that I have remote viewed on that show every Thursday night.
I love remove youing, but it really does work out
your psychic muscles, let's just say. And when it comes
to cryptid such as Bigfoot, sometimes they can connect with
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you telepathically and and they know they know that you're
coming out there to come see them before you go
out there, they know we're coming before we go. Not
that I'm not going to say they know we're coming
before we know we're coming, but they might, uh so.
But but yes, there's there's definitely a strange little element.
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I think it's it's not strange to me, but to
the normal person it would it would sound strange. But
there is an aspect of them knowing that we're coming
out there before we show up.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Got you now, doctor Trey, I'm going to ask you
a related question, if I may, You have been involved
in so many interactions with patients trying to figure out
what's wrong with them?
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Correct?
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Yes, And do you ever.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Or Jessica John has disappeared. He is now in black
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screen mode.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
He's definitely frozen. Maybe he'll come back, Maybe he'll come.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Back, he comes back from the void.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
He might come back from the void. I know I'm
wondering what he was about to ask.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
You don't know. Did I ever remote viewing back? Now
you can tell us what you were.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
Yes, we kept the converse station going, John, if you
can hear us.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Well, thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
I appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
There must be somebody trying to mess with my communication.
It might be Bigfoot, or it might be someone else.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Well, you were asking in my experience with patience, did
I ever? And then you blinked out right?
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Did you ever? Just you're there, You're talking to them,
and all of a sudden you got in your head
exactly what was wrong with him. You acted on it,
and you were correct.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
In twenty years of doing surgery, the answer is no. Now, really,
I wasn't tuned to the right channel.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Who knows, well, you were a great surgeon. And I
know that when I talk to you about my maladies
and ailments, you seem to always get everything figured out.
I know that when I have a problem, I think
about it for a bit and I forget about it,
and then all of a sudden the answer comes to me.
(25:09):
And Jessica is that the kind of experience that you
have with what you would call remote viewing.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
I mean I do get psychic hits, that's what you're
talking about, psite, That's what I call psychic hits. Yes, well,
remote viewing. Honestly, if I wanted to define what remote
viewing is to me, and there are people who say
their remote view see they haven't had the training in
remote viewing the kind that I have. So it's kind
of it's kind of funny talking about remote viewing because there,
(25:40):
you know, I do a lot of conferences and stuff
where I do talk about my remote viewing and it's
more than just being getting psychic hits with what I do,
because it's actually a scientific method of utilizing your psychic
abilities to locate blind targets. I'm given a set of
coordinates and it's a set of coordinate numbers, very random numbers,
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and that's all I'm given for blind targets. I have
no idea what they are. And when I'm giving those
that set of numbers, I'm able to sit down and
map out and chart out all this information that channels
the channels basically through those numbers right there, and I'm
able to go through page after page of data. I
just get a whole bunch of data off those numbers,
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and that's that's remote viewing, right there.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
I do.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
I'm very psychic too, and doing the remote viewing has
made me even more psychic.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Okay, but you mentioned, you mentioned that the military use
remote viewing. I didn't know that. What what are their
applications for it?
Speaker 3 (26:48):
Well, back in the during the Cold War, of course,
Russia was using remote viewers. Their psychic spies is what
they're called. And so America needed to counter act those
Russian spies, so they had American psychic spies. And so
that's where they say it started. Now, they had different
projects called you can look up Project Stargate, Project Jedi,
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several several different programs that they use remote remote viewing in.
I actually have a good friend of mine who is
I think he's still active military. He is a sniper, okay,
in the military. He told me that they still to
this day have a remote viewer assigned to each unite
where he was working. Now, remote viewers are able to
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hone in and locate missing people, you know, weapons, stashes, okay,
anything that you need, anything that you want me to
psychically look into you can give me the even a location,
the coordinate, like a geographical location. I can remote view that.
I mean, I've given plenty of targets where I have
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you know, let's just say, for instance, I begive I
know some of these targets are very dangerous, and I
only trust the people who know how to task me
with targets to task me with targets because I can
get in a lot of trouble, you know, psychically speaking
from going places like Area fifty one and Dulse, you know,
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military base and where they do all the experiments and stuff.
So but they use it to I mean you can.
Actually it's so thorough that you can actually do deep
mind probes on people. I can do a deep mind
probe on someone and get into the head of someone.
Let's just say that has is holding hostages. I can
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get into the head. I can actually talk to hostages.
Anytime I'm remote viewing something and I pick up on
a person in the environment, I'm able to do a
deep mind probe and find out who they are, what
they need, what are they doing. You know, I'm tasked
with a lot of missing persons targets. Or I used
to be when I was especially the first few years
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and I started remote viewing, I was given high priority targets.
Let's just say, for instance, and the head of my
team would would send me a set of coordinates and
he'd say, okay, this is a high priority. So I
would drop everything I was doing and I would go
sit down in a quiet place and I would get
my pens and my paper and I would get the
coordinates and I would go into remote viewing mode. And
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I didn't know what those targets were. I mean, it
could be a statue, like a statue of liberty. I mean,
if it's a high priority, though it usually would be
a missing person, a missing child, a cold case. Okay,
you know, we work with law enforcement to help find
missing people and help try to solve cold cases. And
so I would sit down and get into these targets.
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And a lot of times, you know, if I'm watching
someone getting shot or stabbed or thrown into a lake,
you know, like a body getting thrown or something, people fighting,
I would I would go into this target, and I
would be able to as I'm in the target, I
would going in on that person, do a deep mindprobe
and ask what was going on, and they tell me psychically,
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I've actually helped find I'm going to say I actually
several of my targets. Let's just say I located where
the where the what happened to the people, and where
the bodies were going to be found. And that was
by doing a deep mind probe and asking them what
happened to them.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
So that's what our military real quickly if you did
a deep mind probe, were these people already did or
were they still alive?
Speaker 3 (30:37):
The majority of my targets, people were deceased, deceased. They're
usually dead. On the cold cases, they're usually deceased. Yeah,
I did. I did a case. Actually, I did a case.
I was asked to do a target for a missing
person's cold case that was out of Georgia, out of Kennesaw, Georgia.
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I think what was his name, Chase, Chase Masner maybe
or something like that. And at the time, they had
not found this guy and nobody knew where he was.
They suspected that maybe his wife had something to do
with his disappearance. And I was given a target, not
knowing what it was. It was given this target, and
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I went into this target and I just saw that
two guys had gotten into a fight. There was some
drugs involved in, some alcohol and stuff, and two guys
who in my data kept saying teammate, teammate, teammates, and
so I was like, okay, well, whatever this is. There's
two teammates. They got in a fight. Somebody accidentally unalive
is what we called on YouTube unlive. The other one
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he's dead. And when I saw this go down, I
did a deep mind probe on whoever I saw, whoever
I was honed in on. I did a deep mind probe,
and I said, all I could see I started getting
a visual of two eyes, but they were covered in mud.
The whole face was covered in mud. But I saw
two white eyes, and I said, you know, I asked
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the guy. I knew it was a man. I could
tell it was a man. I said, what what happened
to you? And he kept saying, I'm locked up, I'm
locked up, I can't get out, and I'm down here.
He kept saying I'm down here, and he was covered
in mud, and so I was like, okay. So I
got out of this target and I contacted the guy
from the show and I told him, I said, you know,
here's my data there's There were two guys. They got
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in a fight. There was some drug use involved though
some alcohol stuff went down. They were having a good
time and then there was I think it was an
accidental you know, I say unliven because I have a
YouTube channel. Okay, So he died one of them accidentally
hurt the other one and it's his teammate. They were teammates,
and he buried him somewhere. He's buried in the vicinity.
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He's buried. The body was buried.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
And.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
The gentleman from the show was like, no, we've already
checked his He went home one night, I got in
a fight with his wife and he had been at work.
And I know we're here to talk about the Georgia
Bigfoot comerdce y'all, I'm sorry, I'll talk about this, but Georgia.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
So no, I'm sorry. We're here to talk about what
you want to talk about because you are our guest,
and you are an infinitely interesting guest. All right, I'll
back off.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
Well, I'll just finish it up real quick, because I
was just I was just going to finish that little
little segment. It turned out they said to know that
his friend had nothing to do with it, and they
still thought it was his wife. And I was like, well,
somebody's going to run away. I kept getting run away
in my data as well, and UH, and it turned
out they said that no, the best friend, his friend
he worked with, had checked out, there's no way he
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could have done it. And then about a month later,
guess what they found out. Uh, the guy his friend
he had gone to a home from work with that night, UH,
had actually gotten in a fight with him and something
happened or I think he died and his friend buried
him underneath the back porch of his house. And UH
and sold the house and took off, and the new
(34:05):
tenants found tried to build a new addition onto their porch,
and they found his body under the under the porch.
So I was right, and I was right even though
they told me there's no way. But that's what That's
what remote viewing is. So that that is, that is
how you utilize it. That's how our military utilizes it
to with with cases you know that that involved national
(34:26):
security and things like that.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
Well, Tessica, after after the body was found discovered again, uh,
did you try to remote view? And asked the guy
a follow up no, like are you happy now or
I mean, do you do that?
Speaker 3 (34:47):
No, I don't see because I get these as blind targets,
so I don't know what I'm remote viewing when I
get them. I just get a set of numbers. And
so no, I didn't go back, you know. It was
it was I felt good that I it can that
I was correct and I was on target as we
call it. But you know, from there, it's it is
what it is. I was just glad that I was
(35:09):
able to do that. But of course I never got
any kind of callback from the from that show. It
was like, oh, you were right, you know, and that's okay.
I wasn't expecting any kind of you know, pat on
the back for it, you know, of course, but I
was right, okay, even though they told me that there's
no way I could be right, I ended up being right.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
When now it is it important to have the coordinates?
That are the coordinates like map coordinates.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
Only they can be but no, they're just random numbers,
random numbers. Two sets. It's two sets of four numbers,
so eight numbers total, and they're totally random, but they
are assigned to a target. We call them coordinates. It
can be just completely random numbers, but they're assigned to
each of the targets that I get.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
And how did they determine what those numbers will be?
Speaker 3 (35:59):
You just make them up. You just make them up.
I know it sounds really weird and really wild, but
that's just how it works works.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Give you a handle for whoever you're looking for, and
that becomes their number, and just having them name that number.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
Yeah, it could be something like that. Well, you have
to you have to know how to word the target
just right, depending upon what you want me to find, Okay,
And and so that's up to the tasker. There's a
lot of training that goes into all this too. And
uh and so the person who tasked me is usually
the head of my team. And there's there's one other
gentleman that I allow to give me targets and he
(36:38):
and I do a lot of work together as well.
I've taught him how to task me with targets. We
get some good data out of them. But it's it's
very useful in the cryptied research community in this field
because it's just a great tool to have in your
tool belt. There's so many different modes of remote viewing
and when we're out in the field and we hear
let's just say, for instance, we hear a scream or
we have something really free, something crazy that happens, and
(37:02):
we like, we have missing time. Okay, missing time is
a big thing that happens to a lot of researchers
out in the field where time we just don't know
where the time goes, time standstills time. You know, we
think we're out in some place like our our equipment
will malfunction and the digital clocks will go wonky, and
everybody's time changes on their devices, and we're like, well,
(37:24):
maybe we had an alien abduction or something. I mean,
I don't we don't know what happened. Well, we're able,
so we can actually go into like an our we
call it our V mode, and right there on the spot,
pretty much we can we can go into a different
type of mode, like different types of a different mode
of like remote viewing, where we can kind of hone
in psychically into whatever just happened and stuff. So I
(37:47):
think it's kind of cool because I do believe that
bigfoots are highly telepathic. Not maybe not all of them,
you know, I don't know if I don't know if
all of them utilize it. I think there's so many
different levels of intelligence when it comes to bigfoots, just
like humans. Okay, just like humans. There's a lot of
different levels of intelligence with humans and with bigfoot Sometimes
(38:07):
you're going to find bigfoots out there that are just
looking for food all day. You know, they're looking for food.
They're just hungry. There are others that speak, highly intelligent,
highly telepathic, and so it just runs the you know,
the whole range of them, and and it's really cool
to potentially be able to communicate with them out there,
(38:28):
getting on that level, getting on their frequency. That's the key,
is to get on their frequency so that you can
do a little communication with them.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
All Right, you know what, Jessica, I've got something I
want to report about an incident with you that you
didn't realize was actually an incident, and I think it's
something that is, you know, it is worth studying. I
had asked you to do a remote view of a
(39:02):
particular incident that happened in Georgia. After I'd asked you,
you said, well, you know, I normally do this on
Thursday nights, And by about Wednesday I realized that I
really didn't want you to remote you this because there
(39:23):
were certain problems with this event. It had to do
with a murder, and it had to do with some
very powerful people, and I just decided that I really
didn't want you to do it, but I didn't want
to call you.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
Evidently, this is another one of those examples where John's
not calling him.
Speaker 3 (39:59):
He froze again, but you know he'll be back in
just a second, he keeps coming. We're actually having a
windstorm out here right now.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
Yeah, the wind the winds are picking up.
Speaker 3 (40:09):
Yeah, that may be what's going on where he is too.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
Forgot used for some reason, forgot about or whatever about
this target that I gave you, and then all of
a sudden, I didn't want you to do it, and
then you forgot to do it.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
Do you remember that.
Speaker 3 (40:26):
I think I do? I think I do. Was it
was recent, right, Yes?
Speaker 2 (40:30):
It was.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
It was a three weeks ago. And I don't want,
I do not want to mention the name because that
I believe that would get us in more trouble than
you would ever believe.
Speaker 3 (40:42):
Yeah, you know, some of these targets can be really dangerous.
They really can. And that's why we got to be
real careful about about about the things that I look into,
and uh, you know, there's there's been at least a
couple of targets like let me tell you something, there
are a couple of targets that are completely off and
if I were to remote view those and report it
(41:03):
to the public, I would get a proverbial knock at
my door. And I already have one time. I've gotten
a knock at my door John for remote viewing. Guess
what it was? Take a while, yes, the moon?
Speaker 1 (41:16):
Oh oh okay, yeah, right, I know all about it.
I know all about that. I know Ingo Swan's research,
and uh I have I have always been terrified that
I would get a knock at my door. I haven't.
I guess I'm lucky, but yeah, you can. You know,
(41:37):
I think if you're a remote viewer, you know when
you're delving in something that's going to cause you trouble.
Do you agree with me?
Speaker 3 (41:48):
Yes, That's why I only truy. I only take targets
from people that I trust that aren't gonna send me
down a rabbit hole of destruction. Yeah, I actually so.
I had remote viewed a while back. I was given
the target of the Apollo eleven moon landing, and uh
and I and I did it, and let me tell
(42:09):
you that was just a bad idea, really bad idea.
I was actually going to do a show and I'd
gotten a little too comfortable with all the shows that
I do, and I decided to go ahead and do
a show on it. And about two hours before I
aired that show, I got a I got a pretty
stern warning. It was a I take it as a
I mean I was. I was glad that I got
(42:29):
it actually, uh so that I kind of backed off
of what I was going to do that night. But
but yeah, it was a gentle reminder to keep my
mouth shut when it came to some of that stuve.
And it's it's terrible that you know that there's such
a such a you know, I don't know a block
on it. I guess let's just call it a block. Okay.
(42:51):
There's there's certain people that don't want us to know
what's going on with the moon, I think, and uh,
and it may not just be the moon it made
that moon landing. I think it was mostly the moon
landing that had that had issues. And so I really
don't I don't talk about it very much. You know,
I got really sweaty that night when I ended up
(43:13):
doing a show on it and stuff. But I kind
of backed off of some of the data I was
going to talk about, and and I just have to say,
not everything is as it seems. There are things that
we've been taught. It's not all true. Okay, that's all
I'm gonna say.
Speaker 1 (43:28):
Well, well, certainly, I mean and I can certainly concur
with you, and I'll say this, and I hope no
one knocks at my door. But you know, Stanley, Stanley
Kubrick has passed away. And and since I believe that
he directed the footage of the moon landing, well you
know whatever.
Speaker 3 (43:48):
Yeah, I believe we're up there. I just don't know.
I don't know about the whole that that mission. Okay,
there's a lot of anomalies to it. And there's a
reason that all of those astronauts have stars on the
Hollywood would Walk of Fame. I'm just saying.
Speaker 1 (44:04):
That that is true. All right. Well, I tell you, well,
we have had a wonderful time talking to you. And
I'm gonna give doctor Trey Dunaway, as I do many times,
the last word, because he is a science he is
truly a scientist. He is as a medical doctor. And
(44:25):
I'll say this.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
Or maybe he won't say this.
Speaker 3 (44:36):
He'll see it in just a minute. When he comes back,
he's frozen again.
Speaker 2 (44:47):
Maybe maybe the knock on the door. Maybe maybe somebody
knocked there you are, John knocking on your door and
you had to go answer.
Speaker 1 (44:59):
But so any wait, what you've got the last word
on tonight's show.
Speaker 2 (45:04):
Well, I tell you what I expected to talk about Bigfoot.
But the fact that the military uses remote viewing tells
me that, you know, I'm always looking for proof. Existence
give me proof and indirectly if the military is truly
(45:26):
involved in this for decades, and this is something the
military does. The military is especially with DOGE working, You're
not going to be with money on things that don't work.
So I found the remote viewing absolutely fascinating. And Jessica,
I'd love to have you come back. We just do
(45:47):
a remote viewing episode. But let me remote viewing. If
you decided yourself you'd like to remote view the moon,
could you do that or do you have to have coordinates?
Speaker 3 (46:06):
Well, you know it works best if I have someone
that gives me the coordinates. Okay, technically remote viewing is
blind targets. Okay. It consists of getting a blind target. Now,
I've been doing it a long time and I can
do a front load of target if I wanted to do.
Here's the thing, I can psychically look into stuff. Many
(46:30):
would not consider that remote viewing. But I can psychically
look into things and I don't have to have a
set of coordinates. Absolutely, I'm pretty good at what I do. Yeah,
so I could, and I have remote viewed. Listen, I
have remote viewed plenty of moon targets. Okay. But it's
the Apollo eleven. And it was also doing that publicly
as well was the issue, I think. And you know, actually,
(46:53):
as a matter of fact, I'm considering talking publicly this
Thursday night on the I did remote viewing target a
long time ago of a crashed ship on the Moon. Okay,
And they say that I believe that. They say that
some astronauts went on, like Apollo twenty or something maybe
(47:13):
had gone and examine this ship. Now I can't say
that that's real. I don't know, but I can say
that I have remote viewed a crashed ship. It's like
two miles long. It's like a mile or two miles long,
and I'm maybe discussing that on my show this week.
So I'm going to I'm gonna I'm going to go
out on a limb and maybe maybe discuss that this week.
Speaker 2 (47:36):
Well, I think it would be great to have a
just discussion on remote viewing and would you have any
military friends that might like to come on the show
with you to it. It's always interesting to watch two
people talking the same language. That know, when you can
complete other people's sentences, then you really get the idea that.
Speaker 3 (47:58):
You Yeah, you know what if I could get Trey
Hudson to come on here with me, I bet he
talked about it. I know John, you know Trey.
Speaker 1 (48:06):
Uh, that was exactly the name that that came into
my mind obviously.
Speaker 3 (48:13):
Yea Tree is one of my teammates. I'm on one
of his teams and we've we're we're all on the
same teams like we were. We cross reference teams here
like uh. And so he is the head of a
normal studies an observation group and he is he's done.
He's been in the training as long as I have.
We've been training together and remote viewing for a long time.
And he just retired from the Department of Defense. He
(48:36):
worked in intelligence. Okay, so he I'm sure he would
love to come on. It's just a matter of of
making sure we can schedule a good time or we
can all be here.
Speaker 2 (48:45):
And back to your comment, John, can you remote view
a patient and find an area of concern in the
human body?
Speaker 3 (48:59):
I could? Yeah, we do. We can do psychic body
scans and stuff too. You know, that's the thing. I've
done it before actually with part of our remote viewing training.
We we have done things like that. And you know,
some people are actually trained, like I'm personally trained in
something called breaky and uh and I'm only trained in
(49:19):
level one. So it's very basic, right, but it's it's
I've got the basic skills down. But it's a it's
an energy healing type of thing. And we learned in
that as well to do body scans. But it's all
you know, quant quantum healing. I guess you could call it.
Speaker 2 (49:36):
That might have been a helpful thing as a surgeon.
And I we wouldn't have to send them over to
get an altar centered of their golf. I could just
you could, he could.
Speaker 3 (49:45):
I mean, it's worth it's worth a try. I don't
know when all those fells send them over. No, I
don't know will cover it though.
Speaker 2 (49:54):
I don't know. Yeah, they don't like to cover anything anyway.
Speaker 3 (49:59):
I know, right, might as well send him over, send
him to me. I'll do it. Target, give me, send
me some cordinates.
Speaker 2 (50:04):
We'll get your remote payment.
Speaker 3 (50:07):
For quantum payment, right. What the heck?
Speaker 2 (50:12):
You know?
Speaker 1 (50:12):
It's it's so funny that you mentioned quantum healing because
I'm sitting here with Deepak Chopper's book Quantum Healing, and
I can't wait to read it.
Speaker 2 (50:21):
I just I got he needs he needs to put
his his audio on quantum healing. I think he has.
Speaker 3 (50:32):
Quantum audio right now. Actually I can feel it, but
I can't see it. Okay, I know he's there. He's here,
but he's just not we can't hear him right now,
but he's here.
Speaker 2 (50:43):
Hopefully you need to that. I think we need to
steck out.
Speaker 1 (50:51):
So anyway, Jessica, I want to say thank you very
much for being our guest tonight. You're going to be
one of the one of the two keynote speakers for
Georgia Bigfoot. We would like to get you on here.
I will coordinate with you and we'll see if we
can get Trey Hudson on here. I've had Trey on
a couple of times, and it would love to have
(51:13):
you and Trey on with Doctor Trey and I and
we'll have we'll have a good time and all that. So, Jessica,
thank you very much for being our guest tonight on
Scary Cast.
Speaker 3 (51:25):
Thank you for having me. This is always it's always fun.
I've never not had fun on here.
Speaker 1 (51:31):
Yeah. Well good And Doctor Cray, thank you for being
my co host. You've been the best co host I
could have ever had. So look, thanks a lot, and
we'll see everybody next time.
Speaker 2 (51:42):
Yes, do what a pre eminent co host?
Speaker 1 (51:46):
You're pre eminent. Okay, that's great.
Speaker 2 (51:49):
Eminent surgeon, a pre eminent co host. There you go.
Speaker 1 (51:53):
Okay, great, all right, we'll see everybody next time on
the One and Only Scary Cast.
Speaker 2 (52:00):
Bye everybody, good night, John Bye,
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