Episode 67 | Guest: Mad Props

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Episode Transcript

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sci Fiction. This is episode sixtyseven. If you're listening to this on
Subspace Radio or iHeartRadio for the SIFiction Radio. Today's guests. We have
some amazing gentleman Wand and Tom fromMap Props documentary. You have the amazing
film. We'll let them tell aboutit here. Sure, I believe we've
got one on the horn here onthe back burner and Tom. It looks
like let's bring them on here.Hey, how's it going guys? How's

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it going on? How you doingtoday? Sir? I definitely definitely dug
that little explosive intro. We gotTom on here, and I see I
know if you can hear us,I can't see him, can you hear
us or see us Tom we mightbe doing here shortly got him on there.
But how's your day going on?Great? Very busy, very busy?

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Yeah, sorry, busy. Warpwe warped, speeding. I have
to run out and take care ofan air and I'm warped speedning it down
here to be able to talk withyou guys. So they about those awesome
documentaries. Yeah, yeah, Andspeaking of the doc too, we have
the we've been doing uh the uhuh you know, we've got a whole
bunch of publicity stuff going on atthe same time. And then and then

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we have another project that's about tostart shooting. Oh, what's the other
product? What's that about? Sothere's a it was just announced actually yesterday
and deadline. It's a film calledTheirs with I wrote it, uh and
I'm producing it because I wrote itspecifically with a female director in mind.

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So it's actually starring Harvey Keitel,Rita Moreno uh Udo kir who is kind
of horror legend. Yes, that'swhere I organize, and Roslin Sanchez and

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then we got some other supporting peoplein the in the works too. But
the but Harvey and Rita were likethe the Legends, if you will that
are joining us Tom. I thinkTom is having a hard time. If
you can hear us Tom, signout and sign back in, it might

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be better because it looks like you'rehaving a little connection this or something's going
on, isn't. Yeah, he'she's actually the technically challenged one of the
It happens sometimes. So. Yeah, So that announcement just came out yesterday.
So we're excited and we're probably goingto go into start pre pro in
May for a June shoot. So, now where are you located exactly?

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La or so? Where are youat? So? I was primarily in
Brooklyn. I shoot all over theworld, obviously, but I was born
in Tulsa, Oklahoma. So,and even though I have family in New
York and you know, this isalways my home away from anyway, Tom's
here here, he is. Hey, there's Tom. I'm doing great,

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man, Thanks for having us theproblem. The problem. We got all
three of the trio here. Igot some movie posters or something back there
on the way. Once you gotback there, I'm a Collecker. No
nice, Oh wow, Oklahoma movieposter and cool you're looking at Spaceballs outfit.
Yeah, I remember the space Balls. That's the Spaceballs thing he was
referencing in the space Balls reother.Great, we're talking about the other day,

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me and my buddy. It's awesome. Well you got Tom on the
horn here, he's does the hostingfor the movie. How you've got collecting?
How did you all come about doingthis film? Like you all?
I wanted to do a film oncollecting. What was like the main like
powerful, you know, momentum toget it into motion? Well I knew
I knew Wan from before and wasimpressed, and uh, I just woke

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up one morning it was a Saturday, after doing a big business deal,
and that I mean, you know, I want to start doing more fun
things in my life. So Iwrote this TV show Props. And I
did this because my entire life ofall sorts of stuff, action, magures,
you name it, mostly dumb stuff. But I'm a collector and I

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started collecting movie props. Probably startedwith eBay and then the prop store.
I'm sitting here going, I don'tthink people realize what a big deal this
is. I don't think people realizethe prices these pieces of art what I
consider them are going for. Andthere's a worldwide market, and I knew
about it because I've been competing inthe auction for years, and I thought,

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you know what, this story needsto be told. And I always
wanted to make a TV show outof it because the prices and the way,
the manner in which people find theseitems and then authenticate them and then
ultimately display them or whatever. It'sjust fascinating. There's just so much to
it, and there's so much outthere. It really is, it really

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is. We have Brandon Allinger fromProp Store on a few months about a
month or two ago, he wasin a few months back. He was
a big auction down there, andhe was kind of getting into the how
it all works, you know,like he I think he got started going
down to tunis You're looking for StarWars stuff down there, and he found
a few pieces down there in theknee you know, took it off after
that. Duan, as your part, being the director of bring a producer
of this thing, what would youlike to see beyond? Like you would

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you like to see a TV showas well? Or Oh no, I
mean that was like one of themain things I said to Tom too,
was like, if we're going todo this, because Originally he wanted to
do the show, but I toldhim it's like, dude, it's such
an incestuous like the two worst thingsyou can hardest things to get into in
the industry is music and television.Sure if unless you already have somebody you're

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connected to there, it's near impossibleto get something going right unless you're also
already a name. So I said, let's do Why don't we make a
doc first and then use that asa way to pitch a show. And
so now we do have some stuffand the works. Actually, as a
result of the documentary, we dohave some solid interest now in the shows.

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So the goal, my hope,if all goes according to my plan,
is that we will be shooting thefirst season of the of the TV
show by the time the London auctioncomes around again in fall. Oh wow,
that's awesome. Wow, that's myhope. That's totally cool. So,
Tom, you've been collecting for afew years now, props, what

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are some of the cool things you'vegotten? And you collect some of your
key items, I would you know, people ask me that all the time
because they're funny ones and then they'reones with real value. I would say
The two most valuable ones are theIndiana Jones' whip from Part two, Oh
you got it, I do havethat, and then Part three the Holy

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Grail. So those two things areprobably the most But then you know,
it's the fun stuff like the ballgagfrom Pulp Fiction or I haven't drag those
boots Rocky four. I mean,these all these movies mean something, and
yeah, so those are probably themost valuable ones. I can't even pick
one that I like the most.It's impossible. I started collecting screens props

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when I'm collected replicas of high endprops and stuff. But some of the
only screensigns I got to think,you're the Pirates of the Caribbean screen is
coined and one of those I've got, Yeah, I've got the blast and
I've got the morpho from Power Rangers, the one they had, the Space
one. It's just the hero onewith like the light effects. And I've
got a few other things on somehead sets for different movies, and blasters

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and springy hand phaser from starts yourTMD and look, well you have the
same taste. And the funny thingis what's great about this type of collection
is that everybody appreciates it and knowsit. It's it's just so recognizable and
it evokes the motion as soon asthey see it. Whereas you see really

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but in this type of stuff,you be like, oh my gosh,
it's that it's the whip from IndianAge's too right. It's like we went,
uh my prompts earlier, we gotone of their catalogs or flip them
through it. And my buddy's like, I want that lighter from Constantine,
So every I'm gonna light my cigarettes. Like what is that lighter? It's
the actual one cannery from Constantino Asick. So you're going to do the

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show? Are you all going todo different like themes? Like each show
will be a different theme or differenttype of like how would y'all go?
What's the plot of that? Well, it's a little it's I mean,
the formatting of it is going tobe a little different obviously, well not
obviously, but it will be alittle different. And we're probably going to
be bringing in an actual co host, like a celebrity that's gonna join the

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fray because then that's a nice littleyin yang thing going with Tom and and
like a well known face, buta nerd just like Tom and me too.
I'm a nerd too, but justnot that kind of And so it
would kind of be similar in thatsense, but there would be it would

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be a faster paced thing, andso it would still be all over the
world and all that stuff usual.Am I No, I don't think so
you may mute my I'm not hearingthat one. Let me mute. Well

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I don't hear it now either.Now it's gone. Sorry about that,
guys. I have a professional micand everything, so I don't so,
uh yeah, So, I meanthere will be some differences and stuff.
And the thing is too, isyou know, once you're when you're dealing
with networks and streamers for TV andstuff, you know, there's there's probably

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a certain amount of creative input thatdoesn't really get They don't really let you
have. So so you know thatstuff. I don't know. It might
the genesis of it, you know, it might just change a bit as
we get closer and closer. SoI'm not positive yet, but that's the
hope. But we submitted, wesubmitted the scripts, so we submitted I

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submitted sample scripts assumingly like that.Then hopefully it's it's uh, it'll be
fine, but you know, wejust have to wait and see. Tom.
Are you gonna be in this showas well? And so you're gonna
be the host and he'll be someof the co hosts. There are two
peoples. I would be the hostand then I'd have a co host.

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Very cool, that awesome. Soyou you, Tom, seems like you're
in the sci file and our channelis based on science fiction and beyond.
What are some of your favorite scifi propherts? You mentioned Indiana Jones,
more action fantasy as well. Well, now it's sci fi. I'm actually
glad you asked that. I haveto antheus for you. First of all,
on this tour, we saw morealien stuff than anything else. Oh,

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that is the biggest hit in termsof evaluation. Uh, in interest
is aliens. However, I lovePrometheus, So I have one of the
things from Prometheus. I don't knowif you can see it. What yeah,
no more. And because I lovethat movie so much, it is,
by faring away, my favorite scifi and so I do have a

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piece from that. Very cool,very cool. So yeah, in the
film, you I've got some differentcharacters with actors and various people. I
believe there's one Aliens actor in thereas well, right, Yeah, yeah,
Lance, Lance Hendrickson who played Bishop. Yeah, well and he was
in uh he plays the owner ofYeah you got to have They made a

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replica of his hat that has thelittle stresses and everything. Actually he commands
to score one of those editions.Looks exactly like the Hattie war in that
movie with the wal Whalan industry.Yeah, awesome. Well, Tom,
I was gonna ask you being inthe sci fi realm, I think it's

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you. I think it's you fettingback there. It is much better,
another thing maxed out, max morespeed, awesomeness. So being a part
of the you know, the filmin the sci fi universe and all that,
Well, you've got these films havebecome so iconic, all these properties,
and now it's become these collectors arenow wanting to own a piece of
what you call you call it art, like pop culture art. What do

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you see the future of this collecting? It was just being bigger and better.
What kind of stuff you want tosee in the future for this and
it'll be not being showcased with y'all'sdocumentary and the Selivision series developing what kind
of stuff. Would you like tokind of see it take to the next
next generation. Well, you know, it's interesting. I think that so
much has changed in just seven years. I've been doing this for twenty so
much has just changed in seven Whathappening are these movies? Whenever a movie

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is filmed, they're figuring it out. So now they're going to sell their
props. My hope is that everybody, if they're interested, has the ability
to buy a prop. You don'tneed a bazillion dollars to buy a prop.
You just got to get the rightone from the right movie. And
it could be you know, maybethe movie that came out two years ago
and it's a coin from the movieor something like that. Hold on to

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that thing because if the movie isgood, it might be worth a heck
of a lot more money someday andyou just bought it for teeth. I
want to make bigger and bigger andpeople out about it. The nerds like,
can everyone can own a piece?Very cool? Very cool? So
when you'll get the television series you'regonna so you've got the scripts, you

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have already pitched it. What when'slike when you have already pitched or you're
going to pitch it soon the showis that's it's already in the works.
Yeah, we we Sorry, Iwas working in the back. Apologize people
if you want to turn no,but I guess they, Uh, that's

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that's Frank Man in our command center, Frank with Video Game Corresponded, theories
coming on on our Video Game correspondSo I guess it's helpful though for your
audience to see that. It's it'sNonStop with wheeling and dealing in order to
make anything happen. Uh. Yeah, no, it's it's that was the

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deal. They were just waiting onus. We are are we are out
to uh uh a very well knownyour audience would know who it is,
but I can't publicly say who itis, but a very well known comedic
actor to be Tom's co host.And then the scripts are done. So

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we're just waiting. We're just waitingon on this gentleman to sign on,
and then the whole package goes backto the the four companies that are interested
in in in taking it on.So I'm excited to hear about see what
you're gonna be doing with that.So, Tom, you've talked about collecting
some pretty iconic crops there high end. What do you recommend people do?

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Like if they've got these props,especially it's very expensive, as like lightsabers,
it's bullhips and all that, howdo you recommend them, you know,
like like display them or is thereways that you know you have yours
displayed in case or what kind ofthings you recommend like them do with them
they have lots of them or youknow, yeah, I mean you know.
Part of our the documentary was nowI was going around form place to

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place saying the fun for me arethe artists in me? Yeah, I
like to buy the stuff, butthe artist in me is how you display
it. So, for instance,you asked, how do I display it?
I don't know if you can seeit, Jones just whip from part
two. So what I do isI get a picture from the movie and
then I get a frame or whatever, especially this one, because it's valuable,
and that's how I display it.If you're looking at Star Wars,

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this is a piece of the deathstart from the nineteen original, and I
don't know if you can see it. I see it, Okay, good,
good good. This is a waythat I believe this piece of art
deserves a case like this, ifthat makes sense, and then of course
just displaying it like this too withall that. I don't know if you
can see this, but you know, here's a bunch of is it a
ghost trap back? That is aghostbuster? Yeah, so when he got

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met during the movie, he gotthat during Matt props that when we were
filming I did as well, aswell as the Holy Grail and that almanac
right there too from Back to theFuture playing the bets. Yeah, yeah,
what etherse Scheff you got on therefor Tom. You got the mel

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Gibson screen gun from the nineteen eightyseven hit Lethal Weapon. We got the
Holy Grail from the Last Crusade.You know, I love playinget of the
Apes when I was a kid.So this is an original aesthetics Poulter.
Guys, every movie meant something tome is for whatever reason. And more
pieces from Star Wars. We've gotpulp fiction. We've got the Terminator part

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two. Jack got Brave part that'sthe jacket when he gets lowered down and
yeah, amazing, see there's aphoto reference right there. We've got that
Brave Heart. We've got the wholescreen. This is one of my first
ones. This is goodies. Itwas used by Mama for Telly and it

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was signed by the entire cast.So that's pretty cool because I love that
stuff. I haven't dragged those bootswe got Forrest Gump. Oh, yes,
we've got the glove from the Martianand I got a piece here because
I love the book and I lovethe movie, So that was part of
it. But this is the glovehe's using when he goes Iron Man.
We've got castaway down here if youcan see it. Ocean's eleven and some

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of this is like, this isMichael Jackson's had. That's not a movie
prop. But what see that again? Is that for one of the music
videos. This is one of hishats when he went on the Victory tour
in nineteen eighty four, the largesttour ever, and it was in the
museum in LA and I bought that. But this guy right over here,
when I was a kid, andthis is in the documentary, of course,

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I wanted to see that again.Is that? What's that creepshow?
What is that from? Well?I made it as a kid. Yeah,
So part of the documentary is talkingabout how I got into this,
like why and when I was akid, from about fourth grade to like
seventh grade. I wanted to bea special effects artist for horror movies.
I didn't want to be in thehorror movies. I wanted to be creating

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the props. So that's what Idid. What I wanted to be when
I was a kid. And thenI get in all the sci fi hosting
that it's hilarious, see, andthat's funny. It's like there's so many
people out there like me. That'swhat I want to do with my living.
I never got tired of it.I just I kind of grew out
of it. But this is away for me to get kind of back
into that, right. So coolman, that's quite a collection you've got

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there that that's your office, myoffice. Yeah, but what do you
do? You're like a banker orsomething like that. They said the thing,
yep, a banker. I wasn'tan attorney and didn't turn banker,
and I still am a banker.Uh. But you know it's funny.
I have always Uh I'm not onpurpose by any means, but I kind
of suppressed the art side of me. As you know, you get older

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and you're like, okay, Igot to go to college. I gotta
I gotta get a job. I'vegot you know, so and so forth.
That's like why I became a lawyerand then a banker. So I'm
telling you, collecting props and doingthis stuff is a heck of a lot
more fun. Yeah, so onyou've got these films? How long have
you been doing film films? Andso By the way, also, I

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just realized that your audience should knowthat I'm not like a filthy bastard.
This is I forgot to wipe myashes off from ash Wednesday. Just I
just if you look on my hair, I've got this big Harry Potter gosh
man. Yeah, but that's ascar versus you know, why did you
have dirt on his forehead? Sorry? What was your question? So?

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How long have you been doing filming? What made you get into the film?
I mean I've been I've been inthis business my entire my entire life.
You know. I started. Istarted as an actor in the theater
when I was a little kid,and I went to That's you know,
I had a full ride for forperformance and in theatrical performance in New York
and and then while I was there, I fell in love with behind the

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scenes stuff. When I went anddid I acted in a bunch of you
know, student films N y Uand s v A and and I started
falling in love with the behind thescenes and got asked to be a production
assistant while I was in college ona on a on this little indie film
that never never came out, anduh, the rest is history. Yeah,

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and then I just no, Idid I did get I did get
accepted to Tish, Yeah, butin the end I got offered the full
ride from Tish. But then Igot offered from Fordham as well. So
I went to Fortuamate Lincoln Center becausethere was a Jesuit school and I thought
that might make my parents happy.So whatever makes some happen, right,

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So you got this film in themovie and the TV series coming out.
What what is it give me?Like A if y'all did streaming, what
would you want to do like tenepisodes of like the seasons are shorter now,
if y'all do that, yeah,it be like an hour long show
or yeah, they're scripted for hourlong And that's basically exactly right. Ten
episodes is what we've laid out asthe overall structure for each season. Yeah,

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It's a tricky one too, becauseit's the kind of show that you'd
have to shoot, uh you kindof it's like shot you shoot like all
the episodes at the same time becauseit's all it's all revolved around people and
props at the auction, So wekinda we kind of have to shoot multiple

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crews, shooting different people for eachepisode within that auction itself, and then
we have to go around to alltheir different places and stuff where they live.
It's it's kind of it makes sensewhen you see it. It's kind
of complicated to explain, but wewould shoot it more like a more like
a movie than we would shoot itas like a TV show. Necessarily very

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cool. So, Tom, you'vebeen collecting a few years, you've been
doing the props. What are somethings you're looking for? Prop Store has
got a big auction coming up next. Anything you got your eye on on
that? Okay? So I justgot the electronic copy of it, and
I haven't had a chance to peruseit yet, but I'm going to.
I just I was traveling, Ihadn't had a chance, and then I
expect the hardcover book of course,so I don't know what's in there.

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Yet. But I'll tell you whatone of the ones. I get asked
the question a lot. If therewas one prop you could have, what
would it be? And I actuallygot to hold it and see it at
the prop store and that was theBible from trash Ancord Engine. Ooh,
we should watch that movie the otherday, man Morgan Freeman. Yep,
yeah, it's that. It's theBible with the cutout of a hammer.

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It was only one made and sothat's the original. It just went way,
way, way too high of aprice. I mean, just out
of my league. Look a milliondollars or something. No, but like
I want to say five hundred andfifty thousand. It was up there and
hello jacket for Empire. I sawthat on display and I went for like
six seven hundred or somebody wasspective fiveand one actually went for it. But

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we saw where we man Comic Connor somewhere like that. And though it
was Star Wars celebration in twenty nineteenfor the seventh seventeen for the seven fortieth
anniversary, and they had a lotof the artifaction from Lucasm down there.
What are the coolest ones they have? You know? When Lando comes out
of the falcon, the rescue Luke, Like, he comes out and they
rescue him. Well, the thingis, there's about a two to three

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second seeing I asked Brandon Alijamber,what is this puppet of Lando kay Rissian
super detailed when they cut scene beforehe grabs him when he comes out,
that's a puppet. Yeah, Atlando. So it's a little puppet coming out
of the out of the falcon.I'm like, wow, it's so detailed
even now. It's great. Man, those are the coolest. I love

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that you can get anything from StarWars. I don't have lightsaber. I
need to get a lightsaber, butI love those little miniature pieces because that's
part of the movie. I've seenlike an top gun and and just some
other movies where they you'll get thedolls from those themes. Uh. You
know. To talk about a highpriced item, the Red Leader from the
original Star Wars in the documentary,you see my son Rocco and I watching

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this live auction and that thing wentfor one point nine million dollars. Wow,
one of the original the animatronic ones. Yeah, just the one that's
probably three feet long. It wasthe one. Yeah, it was a
red leader as they were going downto the desk, start one point nine?
Where's the museum? Who has it? What do they do with it?
That's part of the documentary. Youknow. I don't think the prop

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store discloses any of that stuff,right, So that's part of the documentary.
Who are these people that buy him? Who are the big collectors out
there? And that's what we wentout to go see. Who is a
person that would pay one point ninemillion dollars for that? You've got Robert
Robert England in your film, LanceHendrickson, I believe what's his name,

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mcm r Rickey Rourke. Yeah,from Ironman Two's in there. You've got
a lot of actors in there.When the document I've yet to see it.
Our writer wrote it, wrote theirarticle on and I got to see
it. But what are some ofthe stories like anything like? I'm sure
they showed some stories about do anyof them collect as well? I just
I don't think though. I don'tthink so either. Ye, But I

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know that Roberts told the glove hesaid, yeah, yeah, yeah,
so that's what I was gonna say. But he didn't keep it, No,
No, he gave it away.But you know, back then that
wasn't a thing, Like I thinkthey didn't even care. You know,
you're doing a low budget horror movie, and is that that big of a
deal. You know, these thingsjust used to be thrown away. It's
crazy that they're not more that tmpthe motion Picture Star truck. Somebody went

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out, you know those space suitswhen Spot goes outside the ship, they
go on the vedure. They saidthey saw the space suits, like the
armatures and the control all just sittingin the back of the dumpster on a
lot like, yeah, that's true. They said, yeah, it's so
sad man. But Paramount I rememberLeave back In was a two thousand and
something to early two thousands. Iwas talking to guy Richard Edlin, I

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remember that name. He went downthere and there was Christie's. He was
telling me they went all down thereand went through all the archives that has
massive Star Trek auction everything you canimagine. It was before the prop story
of the was their jewel. Itwas a Christie's. Christie's auction did it.
And I was with some buddies overthe years who showed me some of
their collections and quite frankly, there'ssome crazy stuff in that. I think

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the Enterprise d went for like fivehundred thousand dollars. You got like some
of the greatest stuff that a historicaliconic props. There's a buddy of mine
he collects as well, and hesaid that he's looking forward to that propstar
auction as well. He hadn't gothis book yet, but he wants to
look as well. So I'm lookingforward to seeing what's going to be fun
to flip through that thing. Yeah, anything, it's like a bible of

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also's flipping through all the iconic theirglossy photos, high reds pictures on that.
Yeah, and then they give youa range of valuations, which is
kind of cool, super cool.One of the things I saw in there,
I wanted to get wash the Ididn't get a chance to bet on
it, but it was the menin black neuralizer with the little gizmo in
the cricket, the noisy cricket.I was surprised. There's things when we

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went around Tenji's. The most hilariousthing I saw a few years back was
this lady. I remember when theyhad the Willie walka uh chocolate bar and
Baruca salt golden ticket. Yeah,the ladies like she already had the bar,
already had it in hand, andshe was already bidding heavily on the
ticket, and the auctioneers like,I've got a golden ticket. Go once,

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and he's like, you sure youdon't want to start? He got
the bar, got a golden ticket, going twice, He's like, and
then sell us. She didn't getthe ticket. I'm like, oh man,
I would have been often to havetogether? Was it from the original
or the yes Willie walking from bakasas often? So you guys got this

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TV show and it's gonna be together. What channels are like? And then
I can't talk about that, butwhat ones did you like to have them?
If you can choose your big scifi? You know, I don't
want to. I don't want toget into that because I don't want to
like tempt fade or anything, youknow what I mean. Everybody's there,
so one ever picks it. I'mexcited to see it, for sure,
I'm really excited to see it.So Tom, I gotta ask a question.

(29:21):
So you've been you've been buying theseprops and stuff like that for a
little bit. Now, what isthe meaning of collecting these props and what
does it resonate with both of youall from the film and just you your
gymmer lives so see your tong Well, it's just it is. It's the
fun of it. It's uh,it's just super fun for me to do
it and it and it it's Ican scratch that itch of this part of

(29:47):
me that likes to that. Ibelieve it's kind of an artist. So
what I love to do is collectthese things, show them off to my
friends. I always let kids holdthem and that sort of thing, and
then I display them and I andthat whole process to me is just super
fun. And I don't care ifthey're not into movie props. Most of
the ones I have, they've seenthe movie, so it's kind of intrigued.

(30:10):
Right. So I really just lovethis notion of Again, I'm the
collector of a lot of things,but I really just love this notion of
putting together a cool collection, displayingit, and then enjoying it. All
these things they have good memories,and I love to see everybody else's response
as well. I'd love to seea nice smile from somebody because they see
you know, the ballgag from pulpfiction. You know what about you,

(30:34):
what's your message from creating the filmmoving. I just think that what interested
in me the most was was humanizingpeople, you know what I mean,
because I feel like people who sometimespeople who collect arc and stuff are you
know, can be looked down upon, especially in this case, because this

(30:56):
is like a newer the argument thatthis is a modern art right and and
uh, it's starting to get thelevel of appreciation that more traditional fine art,
you know what I mean, likeVan Goh's and all that are have
always had. Now that's what's happeningwith with these pieces. They're all created

(31:22):
by artists. But the beautiful thingabout this is that it's not you know,
uh, there there's so many moviesthat mean different things to everybody,
and there's so many there's big andsmall props, so there's things that are
attainable by every person, imaginable,and there was nothing. It's it's there

(31:45):
was no like uh oh, gosh, sorry, I'm I'm failing on my
words. But there's there's there's akindness acceptance to the community of prop collectors
that really surprised me. You know, not that I thought I was gonna
run into a bunch of jerks,but man, everybody is just so nice

(32:10):
to everybody. And to me,that was really summed up by Alistair,
one of the guys, just aneveryday Joe barely makes you know, barely
eeks by living you know, tenpounds an hour, and he's like the
emotional core of the film, Ithink, because like he just he doesn't
really have money, but he knewthere's this one drawing from a show that

(32:36):
barely anybody outside of England even knowsabout that was on auction, that he
meant so much to him and heyou know, it just shows that and
he was treated like like just asas normal as anybody else. Like all
the happiness and like cheers that yousee in the movie, that's all genuine,

(32:59):
like everybody loves each other because therea very tight knick community and that
was just amazing to see that thatthe humanity exists and that commonality that exists,
and that there's no it's just theequality that exists. That to me,
it was like the most beautiful thingand I really, I really was

(33:19):
happy that we were able to showthat that human side of it in a
way that I think and I hopeaudiences are really gonna appreciate, you know,
that's Are you all going to bedoing any screenings here soon for the
film. Yeah, yeah, we'reheading. Uh, I gonna go to
l A here in a couple ofweeks for special screening and in in West

(33:45):
l A. Uh. And thenit starts us some theatrical play in California
here in Oklahoma, and uh,there's gonna be a couple of screens uh
in France and and it what's thatcon No no, no, no no,

(34:08):
yeah right, I wish no no, no, no, no,
nothing like that. Very cool.Yeah, I mean we're talking tiny stuff.
It's just a very limited theatrical release. Uh, super super small.
You said in la that's in twoor three weeks, and you can do
something else. I'm actually being la somewhere around the time in Mark.
Well. No, yeah, it'sit's only it's a it's it's a one

(34:30):
night event on the twenty ninth actuallyof this month. So and then it's
playing, and it's then it's gonnahave like a it's a play play for
like a week or so in inModesto, California. So yeah, it's
kind of a weird thing, butit's really just about you know, how
theatrical works. Nowadays and for docksand stuff, it's a little trickier too,

(34:50):
obviously, but it's really just aboutstarting the process of of getting the
name of it out there and stufflike that. Ultimately, it's the it's
the stream, I mean, that'sgonna be the that's where the real show
is going to be, you knowwhat I mean? So, are you
and both Tom gonna be there?Any Q and A or anything like that.

(35:12):
Yeah, there's gonna be a Qand A afterward, and uh so
it'll be a whole thing and thenhopefully the actors will be there as well.
And uh yeah, so yeah,it's like it's basically it's like a
premiere without without the pop and circumstance, you know what I mean. So
yeah, yeah, that's totally cool. When closing, Tom and one,

(35:36):
what any website or any places y'alllike this, maybe YouTube for the trailer
or show people they can find out. Yeah, I mean, Matt Props.
All you gotta do is is googleMatt Props. That's you know,
the Matt Props trailers on YouTube.It's all over you know, Matt props,
docuu on you know, in socialmedia. Yeah, I mean,

(35:59):
honestly, you google it and it'sif you do Mad Props Documentary, just
google that, and it's so it'sreally starting to get an online presence in
a major way now. So it'sit's been really cool. It's been overwhelming
the response so far, as thereviews have started to come in and stuff,
it's just been I mean, youknow, not but I I thought
we made a bad movie. Butwhen you see how much it, you

(36:22):
know, how much it seems tobe really connecting with people, that's just
like the ultimate gift right there forme. I don't know about you,
Tom, Well, oh sorry,I was on the remind me of the
question because I was actually looking itup right now to try to give you
the exact thing. What was thequestion? Just a question about like well

(36:45):
the where to find out about itand a little bit info about the film
and so forth, No like wherewere you? But but yeah, I
was saying, I was saying,I went to Bad Props Documentary and pop
right up. Yeah yeah, yeah, I was saying, like I didn't,
I didn't. The positive response thatit's been getting so far, it's

(37:06):
just like has been like overwhelming,and you know, it just gives us
me and emotional satisfaction. That youknow you hope for, but you know
you never necessarily expect, and soit's been just such a pleasure to see
all that. I mean, AndI wondered what you felt about that response
so far. So you know,I'm really proud, really proud of Wan

(37:31):
honestly, because I just I'm justthe character of the collector. Somebody had
to put all this stuff together andit was one hundred percent one and uh
then he's good at what he does. And so to see these people review
them, the review the film andthen get such high praise, I didn't
know what to expect. I've neverdone this before, so I didn't know
they were like, hey, thisis Looney Tunes and I hate the host.

(37:52):
Uh. Instead it was a lotof nice comments about Wand's filming and
how he put the whole thing together. And it's a feel good documentary.
It is. It's a lighthearted,feel good documentary and super entertaining. Well,
and you're only as good as yoursubject, and you know, Tom
Tom is an infectious person and it'sa really cool, fun world that I'm

(38:16):
glad we got to show off becausethey're such great people, the collectors and
stuff. They're such great people.It's just it's been awesome. So yeah,
that's totally awesome, man. I'llreally look forward. I want to
see is there a link or somewherewe can I would like to view the
film myself. I'll do a littlebit more research into them. Yeah,
no, there is. Yeah,but I'm not going to say anything on

(38:37):
here because yeah, we'll take careof you. We'll take care of you.
Thank you so much, well,Tom, and I want to thank
you'all so much for joining you onthe broadcast. This will be aired this
Thursday tomorrow at seven eight pm CentralStandard Time, episode sixty seven on Subspace
Radio network iHeartRadio, and it willbe aired again on Friday, and I
believe one other day six to fiveto be in West Coast. Well,

(39:00):
gentlemen, I like to thank youall so much for joining on on the
badcast. You're on side fiction here. Yeah. Oh and thanks for having
us man appreciate it prop your showfor really yeah, thank you. This
is this has been a blast.I really appreciate it. Yeah, sir,
will you all take you care AndI look forward to the television series
and all the good stuff. Youdon't have a beautiful time. It's all
screening as well in l A.All right, thank you. Thanks guys,

(39:23):
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