Episode 82 Filmmaker Michael Felker

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
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On today's Sharre in a little different location, we're in
a top secret location, undersgoes, so we're up in space,
but we are here about to bring on here next
ten minutes a gentleman who has an amazing new film
I believe at debuts tomorrow in theaters and on digital

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October the fourth, and it's an amazing film. I have
to let him talk about it. I want to spoil it.
His name is Michael Felker, super cool back hisstor never
met him, I never talked to him, but he seems
like he grew up on sci fi with his family
and his dad, and he's now doing sci fi moves.
He's a filmmaker and I'm really looking forward to bringing
him on the brincaster here shortly, let everybody pour in here,

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a little water here we've been at the beach all
we know. It sounds like vacation, we've actually been networking,
doing business and maintaining all the sci fiction awesomates for you,
the fans on the digital awesommeess everybody, pour in here.
My name's on ce Connick for joining us. We are
getting ready, uh this weekend to be going up to Nashville, Tennessee.
We'll be at the Shard of Music City Hotel all

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weekend long and we'll be leaving, I believe Sunday and
early Monday. And it's the ic C see the Imperial
Commissary Collector's Convention, Heavy Backbone and Star Wars, vintage collecting, toys, collectibles, panels, costs,
but anything and everything. The entire hotel is taken over
with collecting and sci fi. It's the ultimate sci fi

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event up there now, one of the biggest, if not
the biggest, collection heavy in vintage collecting, especially Star Wars,
a little bit of everything starts you name it, props,
film stuff. We had all the fan clubs. They're Ghostbusters, Mandalorian, Mergs, Fible,
First Leadion, Droid or Two Builders Club, Battlestar, delt Aliens,
ken Are at Kentucky, every droid and robot everything you

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can imagine. It's called droids actually, because I had that
patent on that name. Bringing on Michael here, surely everybody
joining in, I'm gonna create get up the chat one
there there it is in case on anybody wants to
chat and ask any questions to Michael. I will feature
your questions across the screen and you can ask him
anything you want to know about filmmaking, movie production, sci fi,

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whatever you want to know. He's the man to know
about it behind me, so ask him any questions you
feel free to ask him. He's got a brand new
film out, sci fi film. I'm gonna spoil the plot.
I previewed it last night. Absolutely amazing, very cool film,
very unique. It's like a little new good of information.
It kind of deals with loosely sci fi. That's all

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I'm gonna tell you. Let him tell you now. I
led you on every sing So we're gonna have a
beautiful broadcast here and we'll be joining here shortly with
my Michael. Anybody want to ask questions, Feel free to
comment or uh see simulcasting or other on all social
media platforms from Twitch to x to Facebook to YouTube.
I believe in beyond up in space. It's gonna be

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floating around like Wonka Vision until it reassembles itself into
the form of this broadcast. So remember wherever you go,
there you are Buckery Bonsai. So we're gonna sit here
and let's sit tight inbody and ask questions. We'll be
coming to ic CC this weekend up in Nashville, Tennessee
for sci fi. Also in the scide fiction Goodness, my
name is Owen C. Conner, and you're watching science fiction

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on all the channels. We uh resa had a lot
of guests coming in. We're gonna be bringing even more
guests in possibly one to two a week. We're gonna
be having a prime We're gonna do our get back
to our mainstream show on Thursdays. What's the reason we
usually do a show for an hour so on Thursdays
is because basically, most, if not Comic Con, but a

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lot of the events start at Friday, Saturday, Sunday. So
if we do their livestream a day before, we can
pump out, help market people's events, talk about what's going on,
what we're going to be doing down and bring on
some guests. Our heads events in Yadiyada. We had reached
out to an event which will be unnamed, and then
an individual which is unnamed, holding a pretty significant event,

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can't tell you where it's being. Hell, I'm not going
to bash you or anything, but he never gets back
to anybody and really doesn't care much about seems like
the media and he kind of has a little megal
loomania and I hate that. It is a really cool event,
but anyways, we're going to be going to ic CC.
What's is an absolutely amazing event. Wills will be this
week in the Nashville, Tennessee at their Shearito Music City
Hotel in the Nashville area or anywhere out lying there

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in the digital or whether the virtual and the real
life grid. Please feel free to stop buying. This event
is family friendly with the amazing event. They don't just
have hotel food it's overpriced. They have food trucks. There
a little bit of everything from robots your kids can
touch and blinking lights to cosplayers, the sci fi Lando
Kairistian Ability Whoms is their son's two Corey of Panemalis show,

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Warwick Davis, who played Wicket, the e Wonk and lepre
Kahn and Will and anything and everything. Oh, also in
Harry Potter, they're gonna have wedg End Telly's will be there.
I'm just gonna name their Star Wars names. Everybody may
not know the actors, but Wedgend Tilly's from Star Wars,
A BIG's Dark Lighter, Luke Skywalker's friend that came down
there in Beggs. Beggs, you got you got one on
your tail. Hey, I can't check him in. He's gonna

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be there, and voice actors people from episode one. This
year's the twenty fifth and a Verse trip episode one Star.
We got an amazing write up on that on the site.
But one of our amazing writers, Mikael Smith I believe
his last name is if I'm not specific, He's wrote
an amazing article on episode one. Star Wars twenty fifth anniversary.
By the way, this year is also the twenty fifth

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anniversary of the Matrix. So if you're in the matrix,
don't be in the matrix. Be outside the matrix and
put on the glasses and take a look, just like
Roddy Piper said, and they live. Don't be in the matrix.
Always be awake, not like woke. Just be familiar with
your background and your ambiance and what's around you, because
everything now is crazy. We're not getting the politics, we're

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not getting the science fiction. We're getting the scie fiction.
That's right. We're gonna be bringing on Michael Felker here
shortly talk about his awesome sci fi film. But just remember,
in the future there are no roads. And let's see
what did Roddenberry said? And he said, in the future
there is no hunger, there is no greed, and all

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the children. That's a badass quote. All the children know
how to read too. That's an amazing quote. I believe
he told that to Jonathan Freaks when he first had
the first there or a few meetings with him to
explain his vision of the future in the twenty fourth
century and beyond. Brilliant, brilliant, brilliant episode. I mean an

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episode of all the shorts, of course. But Gene Rodberry
is a visionary. George Lucas is a visionary. Glenn Larson
was a visionary, is a vision his son's awesome. To Eric,
who else I'm missing some Isaac Adam. Let's see what
else's well, Just tons of great visionaries out there. That's
to get the Trifecta, The Battle Star of the Star Wars,
and the Star Trek. I think we're missing a quite

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a bit of anime, video games. We got it all.
Everything's going on there. One of my favorite, favorite favorite movies.
If you have not seen this film, I highly recommend it.
It's called Kroll k r U l L. It's sitting
like the late eighties with one of the the actor
that played the the my key guy that Cisco got
into it with, he's actually played a younger version of him.

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Plays a prince on an alien planet. And so these
these aliens from the future and it's a wild plug.
It's word but word, it's it's amazing. So these aliens
from the future time travels of the past to take
over this planet called Kroll, capture the princess in this
teleporting castle with this evil bagger with all these alien
like hord henchman guys. So him and a whole group

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of thieves and his mentor and the one eyed Cyclops
have to go on a magical, amazing quest to find
the mythical Kroll Dagger and has the magical power to
defeat this thing. It's an adventure unlike anything on that planet.
In that Galaxy Star Wars is good too. So we're
gonna be coming here just shortly about three four minutes
with Michael Felker to talk about his amazing new science

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fiction movie. If anybody knows some little horse. I've been
talking on conference calls and a lot of stuff getting
ready for alsimates for you guys, So stay tuned here shortly.
If anybody ask questions, feel free to chime in on
the chat. We will be bringing on Michael here shortly.
He's a filmmaker and amazing science fiction filming has out
let him to explain about what's going on with that,
and just just bring in your questions. I will be

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joining him shortly. I've got a few already from some
of the fans of the few for myself, so I
will be bringing him on here shortly. I know I've
got the hair a little different today. I'm like I
got a little longer, so I slicked it back. Just
got this beautiful beard trim just for men. It's a
place on the Gulf coast at Orange b Channelabama. They
do amazing bears, so if we need a beard trim
there it is right there. It's all styled up amazing Yeah,

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you did good. Julement math thing. I think they did amazing. Joe.
We've got a few minutes now before we bring on Michael.
We're gonna pop on his logo here, so let me
get that here his title than there so and then
get his title here is filmmaker Michael Felker. There is

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the direct link Magnetic Releasing dot com forward Slaze. His
film is called Things Will Be Different. It's a science
fiction film, kind of a thriller of sorts with a
really cool awesome motif, deals with the brother and sister.
That's all I want to say. I'll let him tell
you more about it. It's gonna be absolutely amazing to get
the opportunity to talk with him about this awesome project

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joining us here. Just short, let's bring the comment chat
with by uh when he chimes in, I'll be bringing
in them featuring comments on the grid and also have
a bunch more with fans have already chimed in on
me as well, so we'll be featuring comment anything that
comes in. It's a pretty decent prime time saw. I
hope anybody's well. If you're watching on side fition, feel
free to comment on this beautiful broadcast We are coming

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to simulcasting on Facebook, Twitch, x like x men, and YouTube,
and we'll be featuring this on the Iheartspreaker and radio
channel as well archived on all the digital goodness, So
stay tuned here. Shortly we're gonna be bringing on Michael Felker.
If you have any questions, Like I said, feel free
to I'm gonna take a little drinker, feel free to comment.
Gotta have water to hydrate all the time. It's hot here.

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It's like it's one hundred degrees with me seventy five
eighty percent he didn't ax, but still good high quality
to it. It's alkaline water with like a little bit
of high level H two O. It's good stuff as
lot each too. As Bobby Bouchet would say, I love
each too them. Eleven minutes forty seconds of the broadcast.

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My name is Zoe and C Cotter. You're watching side fiction,
all the digital awesomeness spanning across the five known galaxies
and beyond. As Droerel would, I think it's five or seven.
So they told Clark kN on the Kryptonic Fortress of Solitude,
my buddy, So my buddy, Lance Hovan shout out to Lance,
You're awesome. He's like the biggest Superman fan on the

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entire Well maybe not that he's really really, really passionate.
As a matter of fact, his license plate refers might give
you his like his life's plate refers to that franchise
drives a beautiful blue car and also has an amazing
artist if he's an artist as well. I think we've
got Michael on here shortly. Let me say, bring him
on here. The touch cream Goodiness activating, Michael Man. Are

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you can you hear me? Michael?

Speaker 2 (11:32):
Yeah? Can you hear me?

Speaker 1 (11:33):
I can hear you? Great man. How's your day going?

Speaker 2 (11:35):
Good man?

Speaker 1 (11:36):
How you doing doing good? I was previewed your film
last evening. It was absolutely amazing.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
Oh my gosh, thank you so much. That means the
world to me.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
Man, what you've been up to you even I you
got the film coming I believe tomorrow and the fourth.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
Right, yeah, but we also have our premiere tonight in
Los Angeles, So I'm after this, I'm just gonna get
into something and start getting over there. So with a.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
Boat's iron looked like James Bond or something like that.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
Yeah, just look a little bit prim and proper and
not just all disheveled here, but uh, thank you for
having me on. I've been looking forward to this one
for a while.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
No problem. Where's the film gonna be at the Egyptian
or the tcl Chinee where y'all doing that?

Speaker 2 (12:12):
It's gonna be at the tonight, It's gonna be at
the Culver Theater, and then the opening week will be
at the Sina Lounge on Sunset and the Alamo Draft
House in downtown.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
Three premiere. That's a trifectorads.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
Yeah, yeah, not too bad for a small movie like us.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
Well, tell every Bonnie a little bit about without spoiling it,
like a little bit about the plot with the name
of it was, how did you come up with all that?

Speaker 2 (12:37):
Yeah? Yeah, So the premise of the movie is a
brother and sister commit a robbery and they tried to
flee the cops by hiding out in a remote farmhouse
that is also a time traveling safe house. So they
lay low there for about a couple of weeks while
they wait for the cops to pass in their time.
But when they try to go back to their original time,
mysterious forces lock them away and uh, their familial bonds

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are tested, so to speak. So, yeah, a little sci
fi thriller horror movie.

Speaker 1 (13:05):
We got like almost like a little m night shamalong
magic to it, maybe.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
A little bit, a little bit. It's a little bit
its own, like big thing going on with like uh
you know, a lot of twists, a lot of turns,
a lot of like character reveals that are all very exciting.
So uh yeah, it's a it's genuinely a wild, wild time.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
Yes, indeed, so science fiction. I read in your little
bio like that they had sently it was like a
three or four paragraphs a lot of fast things about
the film as well. You grew up I believe on
sci fi with your father.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
Yes, absolutely so my dad Yeah, oh no, yeah, I
was to say, My dad's an engineer, so he's just
a genuine sci fi lover through his career and his
free time.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
So yeah, what were some of his creative favorite He
always liked to watch wit.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
You Yeah, I mean he got me into a very
early age. He got me into Blade Run Alien Brazil,
two thousand and one. Two thousand and one is one
of his favorite movies because it scared the living daylights
out of him when he was a kid in theaters
so he always wanted to baby and all that. Yeah,

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he was actually freaked out by the part where the
guys like can't get his two back in his suit
and he won't be able to get in because.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
Yeah, the oxygen exactly.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
So that was Garry Locke.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
Who I believe you also played in Star Trek in
the very pilot episode with Kevin Kirk.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
Yeah, absolutely, it was. It was a He was also
a huge Star Trek guy growing up. He basically uh
wanted to uh pursue aerospace at one point too. That's
why he worked within NASA and worked with International Space
Station when he was much younger. Uh, So he really
grew up loving Star Trek and he got us into
Star Trek at a very early age as well. So

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a lot of sci fi love in our house, for sure.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
A lot of sci fi goodness. We like shi we're
sci fiction Here on broadcasting, we've got film maker Michael
Felker here joining on the show. What it's speaking on
Star Trek. Have you seen the new Star Treks of them?

Speaker 2 (15:06):
Uh, the Yeah, I've seen the Chris Pine ones. Yeah.
They're they're fun. They're fun. They're like they're like a
roller coaster action ride.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
Yeah, it's like an action roller coaster. You get the
new Strange New Worlds. It's like five awesome things, got
lower decks. We get this from Stranger World's Prodigy. There's
like five of them. It's the golden age of Trek
where your dad bringing up more on the original series
with TNG.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
He brought us up on the original series because that's
what he grew up with. But then we watched a
little bit of TMG because when I was growing up,
that's what was on TV as well, so that he
would just watch a lot of that for sure. Yeah.
But the big thing for me, like Star Trek is awesome,
but there's so much of it on now that it's
actually really hard to catch up with everything Star Trek.
Yeah exactly. They've got Star Trek dedicated network now just

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given with the you know, CBS and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
So Star Wars one too. No forget Disney plus, you
gotta get all the Infinity gyms on you and you
got all the streaming networks.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
Yeah exactly. They're so so many vast like sci fi universes,
which is a great time for us because it's just
like we have so much in our stores that we
could pick from. Uh. So it's just a lot of
catch up on for us still to watch. I mean,
I'm trying to get my wife into Lost now recently.
She has never seen it, and it's a good time
for a rewatch.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
Have you seen the show for All Mankind on Apple TV? Oh?

Speaker 2 (16:22):
Yeah, I'm actually going through that right now because it's
one of my wife's favorite shows. A lot of my
friends who live in Huntsville, Alabama, who my grandparents.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
You still live in Yeah, I'm home Tennessee Valley throwing
on Drake.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
Oh I know exactly where that is. Yeah. I grew
up like within the Madison County area and then I
went to high school over by the Hampton Cove area,
so like, yeah, it's my whole family still is there.
And they all work within science too.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
That's called Rocket City or something like the space also
like a space singer and all of them.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
Oh yeah, that's how we like get everyone in on
board with like uh like coming to the plate, coming
to the city, because everyone has to go to see
the big giant space and Rocket center. They have to
go see the giant rocket. They have to go and
do like the Moonlander thing. They always want to do
space camp, but it's always like, oh, yeah, you have
like two weeks to come in and do the stimulators

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and stuff. So yeah, my grandfather.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
Used to have all the Apollo astaurants would come up
in their corvettes that they got for a dollar and
hang out of this house. He was a colonel, so
he worked on Redstern Arsenal's one of the highest ranking
militar awesomeness ever in the universe, and he knew everybody
like Commander of Before too, used to treat Lyndon B.
Johnson before he's president for bar fights. That gets into
some touchy topics with you exactly well, because his best friend,

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we'll bring them bring the story in X files goodness
on x Yeah, so this is hilarious, but it's actually
ironic the Saburth of the JFK. So basically he would
get calls late at night and the sky would come.
His name is Roy and it was like Lbg's like boy,
like his best friend, He's like, hey, Roy has been
another mother barfighter guy in the fight. Can you guys

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come down like to the Motel six and patch him
up to keep him out of the papers. My grandfather, Yeah,
patch him up and him his business partner Kenzer. They
go down there and he's er is a medical service
as er doctor for a surgeon. Patch them all up. Anyways,
Flash for Dallas, Texas for orth So. Oh, by the way,
the backers team roy S truly he was a top

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level snipers for the United States military. Okay, so the
day that Kennedy assassin and assassina started from nineteen sixties,
guess where Royes Truly was that day?

Speaker 2 (18:39):
Where was he?

Speaker 1 (18:40):
The head of the Texas school book depositor and Lee
Harvey Oswald's ball. Here's the catch. When my grandfather heard that,
he gets a call all on. They calls him up
and he transfermed transform transforms up there, says we cannot
get him and my grandfather's names. I'm a BITS partner.
We cannot guarantee that. Please, we beg of you to
drop this subject. Click. He was afraid for forty years

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to talk about that. WHOA, there's a black and white
deposition the f behind it on YouTube. I think it's
roy Is Truly interviewed by the FBI and he was there.
I mean, he could have been the lone gunman like
that's been off serious for.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
Mix that's like I'm typing that down. I'm gonna look
that up later.

Speaker 1 (19:21):
That's agree and it's just Los Solid checks out.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
Cool.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
Yeah, he had uh well, he said LBJ was a
total jerk.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
Though I've heard stories like that.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
Here's the cat. So he was actually most people don't
know this in the United States. He was in the
youth militia for the United States Military. He was on
TV watching Alabama PBS broadcasting and that says like in Texas,
HiT's kink Texas. She's like, ah, there's there was no evidence,
there's could have never been a you know, a military
youth camp, militia camp. He gets with it, even touching.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
His cow was there woman?

Speaker 1 (19:52):
It hits cock in his chair and hunts for Alabama.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
Yeah that's oh no, yeah, I mean we're I that's it.
Many stories that I've heard too, along with my dad's
stories when he was working because he worked also at
the Arsenal for a long time too. I got to it.
I got to visit over there when I was a kid.
I think they had like a day where they let
me and again this is my memory, but he got
I got to write in a tank on the Arsenal,

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which was really cool because my dad was just there
all the time, like through the nineties and two thousands,
and uh yeah, it's a it's a wonderful city. And
everyone in Huntsville who like watches for All Mankind because
it's just basically like a characters from Huntsville and that
show and they have a lot of love for NASA there,
so uh that and now making my way through for

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All Mankind right now because my wife just split splits
through it. She said it was the best show on TV,
so that's amazing.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
I was actually talking with Ronald D. Moore san Diego
Coma Cohn about the serious subject he's he's getting into,
like it's gonna take a decade later in season five.
How beaut Baldwin's in there too, and ball one's my
favorite character, and then you got he's amazing. Oh I
thought I'd go out with a blazing Gloria, but he
he was telling me that they're doing a spinoff series

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called Star City season five. I hope they do a
season six, and it's gonna take place about a decade
or so later. So if you remember, have you seen
the last season?

Speaker 2 (21:11):
I'm still catching up.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
So I'm like, but the last season, it gets really awesome.
It just raps. It's absolutely and the ending of that season.

Speaker 2 (21:20):
Like, wow, oh that's awesome. Well, you know, it's a
fun dream job for my wife. She actually is working
on the show for Star City, so really, yeah, she's
she's in. They're they're working on it now and so
I can't wait for people to check it out because
so you know.

Speaker 1 (21:37):
The Baldwin's played, but I believes his name is Joe
Kinneman or something like that. Yeah, you ever met him?
He supposedly a cool guy for when.

Speaker 2 (21:43):
I've heard, not met him, but I've heard crazy stories
as well, so hopefully Yeah, yeah, I've heard good stories.
I heard good stories about him.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
So RoboCop altered Carbo was really sick. I mean, damn
that was amazing.

Speaker 2 (22:01):
Yeah, man, Kidderman's Kidderman's really cool, it seems like, and
I'm glad he's like found his like romankind. So yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (22:10):
Don't think bringing back is like older, like a decade older.
I still want to go out and mar Advisor like
the King of Mars or whatever.

Speaker 2 (22:20):
That he's just got to be probably sitting at the
bar as his last scene or something like that. Just
watching the TV and just being like, all right, they're
off to like a whole nother universe. And I was
glad I was there from day one when you know,
we were able to try to race for the moon.
So yeah, it's a great show. I've also heard great
things about Robin war as well, so he's super cool.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
He's asking me about the weather in Vegas because we're
both ouncing off there to go to Star Truck Visus.
Oh yeah, it's gonna be hot, because be really hot.
He's super hot at TALCS. Oh man, it was boiling hot,
boiling hot. Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (22:56):
Vegas is like hot eleven months of the year and
then stupid old for one.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
But that's the hottest month right there.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
Oh yeah, Yeah, it's weird. People think like June July
is hot for southern California and Vegas, and I'm like, no,
it's actually like August, it's September. Is just I don't
want to live there.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
My buddy lives out there, Jason. He's a big sci
fi enthusiast and he has been living like six years,
moved out there his uncle and his aunt. They run
His aunt runs a big catering company for all the celebrities,
all the films and stuff. She's got crazy cool stories,
the rocks cool and all these other people coming in
and I think they had like was it Jason Statement
or Harrison Ford or somebody some Marvel movie. It was

(23:35):
Chris Chris Pratt. I forget, they're coming in, get all
their food and all the premium and all their good stuff.

Speaker 2 (23:43):
Yeah good.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
I gotta ask your film, uh, you know things will
be different? What like kind of inspired you beyond watching?
So it was like, you know, the time trial aspect
kind of what gave you, like the you know, the
inspiration to kind of make film that kind of sci fi?

Speaker 2 (23:59):
I mean, oh yeah, I mean that type of sci
fi was just based off like conversations that would have
with my dad after watching movies, like especially heavy movies
that give you a lot to think about. I always
love a good science fiction that like leaves me the
more questions and answers, so way I could just further
bond with people that I watched it with and forum
theories and ideas because it's incredibly exciting a way to

(24:23):
engage with a movie. So like, when doing this, the
first movies that came to mind were all the time
travel movies. We would watch together and just pick apart
like how time travel worked in that movie versus time
travel working in a different type of movie.

Speaker 1 (24:35):
And there's like a little bit of Looper meets kind
of like Inception or kind of like a blend of
kind of gumbo cornucopia of blended that.

Speaker 2 (24:43):
Yeah, exactly. Looper was a huge inspiration in terms of
the look and feel and how grounded like which could be. Yeah,
it's so cool. And and then I always liked, have
you ever seen the indie time travel movie Time Crimes.

Speaker 1 (24:56):
I'm not, but I'll tell you what I have to
seen as my buddy to the film called Norman, which
is a time travel film. It's amazing, dude, Gils It's
an amazing film, and it deals with the guy he's
from like the future, kind of like a really crappy
future which has like, you know, just terrible He time
travels back, creates a portal, time travels back to the

(25:17):
past like in the early two thousands, and stuck to
his only companion is this clear, uh translucent oled tablet
that has an AI on it. Yeah, kind of guides him.
There's a cool scene in the movie. Without spoiling it,
he partially gets the portal open. He's eating an apple
and actually throws to the portal and you don't know
where it went, no, but it landed in the past

(25:40):
in the Civil War, and as a Civil War soldiers
getting shot, he just sees his apple fall from nowhere.
It's right now with a pike. Where did that come?
That's where the apple went one hundred and something years
in the past in the Civil War. He and on
a spoil. But that movie's awesomeat he hates this little
crank thing which gets all the generator and immenseally gets
the portal open again. It's just wild.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
Oh that sounds right.

Speaker 1 (26:01):
He did work on that for like six seven years,
a long time, got it produced, distributed, it's on digital
and it's on blue ray now and I'll sell the doors.
It's absolutely amazing.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
Oh sick, all right, I'm gonna tell you go watch that.
I have it on my list here as well.

Speaker 1 (26:15):
It's a little different. It's more, you know, futures. It's
not like like yours. Us is more like very makes
you think in a different way.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
Yeah, like I kind of like getting.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
Him back to the future, but not that movie. That's
what Marty J. Marty MCFA.

Speaker 2 (26:27):
Oh yeah, Now that's got like a simpler type of
time travel rules that are like very mainstream and accessible,
being like, ah, if I do something here, it affects
something here.

Speaker 1 (26:36):
Everybody thinks that, which I agree with that, But I
noticed some things. I'll studying the films from like a
film standpoint, people don't realize some certain aspects of that.
If you read quantum physics and fourth dimensional time travel relativity,
you'll notice when he before he leaves nineteen eighty five,
his dad's kind of a deadbeat. Biff's pulling him and

(26:56):
punching him around. You all come to your house now
you get from me. He's a light beer and then
his mother is like a drunk cigarette smoke and bloated out.
His brother's kind of a dead beat, his sister just whining.
When he goes back to the future, of course, you know,
he gets his dad's confidence up. He pops biff YadA, YadA, YadA.
There's three things, four things actually number one. When he

(27:16):
gets back to the nineteen eighty five, he's basically created
the paradoxical multiverse in a pocket. This is no longer
his dad. His dad's all successfully his published author Biff's
working for him, shine in his car. His mother's all
thin and looking and shape, this book, cigarettes, not drinking,
his brother's successful business, got it up. There's that. Then
there's the other aspect where the twin Pines his lone

(27:38):
Pine mall. And then even back to future three, remember
keep going on around, strutting around like he was Clint Eastwood.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
Now, the original ravine was called shon Nash Ravine, and
the originally that Claire was supposed to go off the ravine, right, Yeah,
So what people don't realize is when they come out
back from nineteen eighteen eighty five to nineteen eighty eighteen whatever,
nineteen eighty five, Yeah, the name of the ravene is
called Clint Eastwood Ravine. Yeah, and number four. Most people

(28:05):
don't know this at all. Remember when old Biff went
back to nineteen fifty five to hand his younger.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
Self about book.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
Yeah, sports on that. Now. Remember when Marty was in
his office and he's like, no, we need to talk
about yeah money, No, not money, Gray's sports and start
talking kid, what do you know about that? Well, what
people don't know is when he time traveled in nineteen
fifty five, he went back to twenty fifteen, right, and

(28:35):
you see him getting out of the lor and it
broke the cane off. It's kind of hard. He wasn't
having a heart attack, he was fading out of the space.
Time continue. He deleted himself, you know why. It's it's
star rhymes that Lorraine shot him around nineteen ninety one
and he died, So he killed himself by doing that.
That's true. Yeah, it's all solid. There's a deleted scene

(28:56):
where you kind of see him just phase out of the.

Speaker 2 (28:58):
Space, right exactly. Yeah, that's the kind of time travel
talk we do all the time as felkers, because my
sister also is a time travel of fishing out of person.
Because we also talked about with back to the future
just being like what you know, the multiple parties of
it all, which is like, yeah, you have now a
timeline now with two Martys and then a whole nother
timeline with no Marty's whatsoever because one went back and

(29:19):
the other.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
Like I can mentioned the twenty go ahead.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
No, No, that was just like the big thing was
just like you can't just like it would be a
different thing if you had him just like trade his
like consciousness and got there, but like.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
Remember when Doc was trying to tell him you can't
get all up at. Everybody sometimes calls you a chicken,
right right? Did you notice that little nugat? Remember when
and I probably remember this in twenty fifteen he was
having trouble strumming that guitar and he fractured his hand
all up Oh yeah. The reason his mother's like, why
you know if you had just that guy in all
airgon not rolling that Rolls Royce well in the in

(29:52):
the nineteen eighty five when he comes back with the
girlfriend and the Needles is trying to race and pulls
back and Needles sturves off, He's like, my god, I
really want to hit into that Rolls Royce. So many
speculate that he's a rock star in twenty fifteen, which
is probably true, And a lot of people don't know this.
That in the movie, the first movie, when he's you know,

(30:14):
trying that's just too damn loud, the guy says that
is actually Huey Lewis.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
It's right, Oh my gosh, that's a good way to
put it.

Speaker 1 (30:20):
It's had an amazing music video for Power of Love
with him Dog. Have you seen the music video? Where
Doc Brown gets out and gets out the door and
he goes.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
Yeah, oh yeah, yeah. I haven't seen a while, but
I remember that.

Speaker 1 (30:28):
Alten like the nineteen eighty four year before was the
number one hit was Ray Parker Junior's Ghostbusters. There's musically
they were going on the street and like that, and
he got the that's great and that was an opportunity
that the scene Ray Parker Junia four. So I couldn't go.
It was a sony thing. We had some scheduling because
my Buddi's down here. Had to do a big old ceremony,
which is everybody's got one of these. It's not an

(30:49):
academy or anything. You know, that's just cool. It's a
lot col award. But then you can go down. I
want to hang out with Dan ackword and play virtual reality.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
We really want a Ghostbusters rich Yeah, that's that's the
real award right there. We don't need that. We just
want to with Dan.

Speaker 1 (31:04):
Crystal Skull. Crystal Skull vodka is quadruple to still vodka. Well,
the whole premise of that vodka we also as a
winery company and that vodka. I loved how he leveraged
that geek sheet just that little nugat of paranormal and
Ghostbusters to sell that VAKA like hotcakes.

Speaker 2 (31:21):
Yeah, yeah, that's what you gotta do. That's something I
would do in that situation.

Speaker 1 (31:25):
So do you, like, have you seen any new ones?

Speaker 2 (31:28):
I have not seen? Was it the Frozen Empire I've seen?
I have seen Afterlife? Yes, yes, that one was. It
was yeah, really gorgeous, coming back to like the roots
of it all, for sure. But I've not got a
chance to see Frozen Empire. So that's that one's on
my list. Maybe I might. I think I saw it
on an airplane library.

Speaker 1 (31:47):
I might check it out there.

Speaker 2 (31:48):
Uh, but yeah, it was it good.

Speaker 1 (31:50):
Yeah, yeah, it's absolutely I mean Afterlife is just absolutely phenomenal.
But the second movie, Frozen Empire is really good, like cool.
I actually get into kind of the science because like,
over the last three forty years, Winston became like this
multimillionaire entrepreneurial investor guy. Well most people don't know this.
He's former Air Force his character. So when he came
to Janine recruited him. What she's saying, like, I don't

(32:10):
if you believe in the theory of Atlanta un locked
this monster whatever, He's like, if you had steady pay check,
I believe whatever you say that. So he came from
the Air Force, so he was recruited, so he kind
of already knew like technical stuff. So in this new movie,
without spoiling it, he's invested in. Like so they've caught
all these ghosts. Now they're studying him in this research institute.
And there's this big the Big Batty is this guy

(32:33):
that was like this ghost that was an ancient ghost
that comes back and one of the characters has some
kind of ability to battle it along with the Ghostbusters.
Problem is not even their proton packs can damnage. Oh
but it gets better, so you have to watch the
middle and end.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
Uh, that's this be credibly interesting.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
Okay, as a ghost that Phoebe the girl meets and
so they kind of start talking and it's a whole
cornucopia blended plots. And but that afterlife move was amazing
because you get to see like the ghost of Egon
for helping them.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
Oh yeah, get to see everybody together again. And is
the old Is the old cast really good in the
new one too? I know they have a Yeah, they're great.

Speaker 1 (33:10):
I mean, Egon's not there. But you got Winston's amazing,
No how he he looks like he did like twenty
thirty years ago. Who else you got? You got Bill
Murray's an amazing Dan. Hilarious. There's a scene in there.
Remember podcast, the guy, the podcaster, So he's in there.
He's basically acting like he's at space camping. Instead he's
hanging out with acroy helping him with his podcast, his

(33:30):
broadcast show. He's like, he's full Acroyd. He's like, Hi,
I'm Dank, I'm I'm Race Stance. And you're watching it's
a paranormal show. Come in and like bring their haunted artifacts.
And there's a scene with a watch and it's hilarious.
So watch that. And he's basically living down there in
his like you know, he has to raise a cult

(33:51):
book story and he's in a basement. So podcasting, we're
teaming up to work together on this broadcast thing. And
oh they even show the ECDO three from the cartoons
and then.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
Oh cool, Okay, I haven't see the cartoons since I
was a kid man.

Speaker 1 (34:05):
Okay, cool cartoons. Dude, got it on DVD and blue.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
Oh that's awesome. That's sick.

Speaker 1 (34:10):
There's everything in that movie. Remember the orange jacket that
Bill Murray was skate. He wears that in the movie too.

Speaker 2 (34:17):
Oh man, okay, all right, I'm gonna be on a flight.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
Move of Easter eggs everywhere, literal all over that film.

Speaker 2 (34:23):
I'm gonna be on a flight that's really long in
a couple of days. And that's now.

Speaker 1 (34:28):
Your phone and your gizmos and gadgets and watch them. Yeah,
oh yeah, you have you ever seen Quantum Leap?

Speaker 2 (34:35):
Oh my dad showed me episode was a kid. Yeah,
the original that show. The new one's pretty good.

Speaker 1 (34:41):
I haven't seen all the new one, but the well,
actually Winston's and that I mean Ernie Hudson's in the
new film. Here's the thing that some people know, the
hardware fanas. Some people don't remember. There was an episode
where Sam Beckett leaped into a gentleman's body. Was in
the Vietnam War. Yeah, gentleman is actually the character Winston's
playing in the new movie. Yeah, Tim growing up. He

(35:03):
even tells the guys like, you know, actually Sam leaped
into me one time, and he was the one, you know,
because when he leaps into people either way, the actual
person goes on what's called the waiting room, which is
like a buffer room between the time displaced between present
and past the middle room. So they're in the waiting room,
so he's in there, so he would know because you know,
Gooshy or whoever the hell would tell him what's down

(35:23):
with the quantum computer. Then he goes back, you know,
whatever the heck, and he's back. But me and the people.
I had a guy that told me he theorized I
saw this on the internet that mcguiver. Remember how mcguiver
would always put right with onunce of wrong hell people
and stuff. Yeah, he would just go off and whatever
the next adventure. He theorized that mcgiver is actually Sam

(35:46):
Beckett leaped into mcguiver and they're both the same person.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
Yeah. I was like, wow, I love when they're like
even leaving that door opened between these different franchises, just
being like, by the way we all talk, we know
what happened.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
Stargate's cool. I mean he got all the stargs.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
Yeah, yeah, Stargate's great. I uh you know, but I
also like, my dad got me tons into the Twilight Zones.
We try to do some Twilight Zone New Year's marathons
all the time. So yeah, it's old, old like sci
fi TV was just his bread and butter, and like
I think every year he always showed us, like the
Doomsday episode of Star Treks.

Speaker 1 (36:24):
That was the big tube things. That was the Constellation,
it was the USS something, that's the one. Yeah, Matt
Decker had Commodore Decker the fine. That was the fine
that was throwing web. So they had, uh, I was
gonna say so, the Twilights and we had the guy

(36:45):
actually wrote the Twilight Zone companion on the show several times.

Speaker 2 (36:48):
Oh sick. Nice.

Speaker 1 (36:49):
What people don't know, not only is he friends with
the Surlings, he actually has recordings of Rod Sony doing
unaired like recordings of stories and there he's gonna remack
on them all and they could turn those the narration
for a whole other series of audio dramas or series.
There's like dozens of them.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
Oh my god, that's.

Speaker 1 (37:08):
Yeah. They smoke a cigarette, Ma Serling and you're in
the Twilight Yeah, I mean a lot of people. William
Shatner was in that. Oh yeah, Miles up in the plane.

Speaker 2 (37:21):
Oh yeah, that one. And he was the one with
the was heanded in the town and they had the radio. Yeah,
I remember that one.

Speaker 1 (37:29):
So yeah, me and my brother, we'll mess around with
each other. So he'll be like, I'll do the Shatner
for that episode, and I'll say there's something on the
wing of the plane. There is something on the wing
of the plane. And then he'll be like, oh man,
we'll send each other animated gifts of him going something
on the wing with the grimala on the roof.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
It's freaky. I mean I remember seeing the actually, the
first version I saw that was the the George Miller
one from the Twilight Zone movie. Yeah, yeah, that was
the one that I saw. It. Yeah, scared the but
Jesus out of me though, just having that first shot
of the smashing of the wing, just like just watch.

Speaker 1 (38:03):
Did you ever see the Steven Spielberg series that, like,
the New Old One was great? The New Amazing.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
Stories, No, I did not.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
I would highly recommend checking out the Old One first
and then getting the New Amazing Stories, which is loosely
based on the original pulp comics sci fi fantasy books
from like the nineteen thirties forties. Because you had astounding stories,
he had Amazing Stories are two separate ones. Oh, okay, Amazing
Stories absolutely, Actually the gentleman who owns the rights to
the Amazing Stories franchised and he's super cool, has Amazing

(38:34):
Stories dot com. He has a store some really super
cool Pulpse shirts that of all the covers of all
the on nineteen thirties. Go check that out. But he
contacted me, and I've known about this for a while.
He got the rights to it around like a decade
or saga or something like that, and they actually started
doing the digital version. They had some print and they
have the anthology with different science fiction authors.

Speaker 2 (38:54):
Oh wow, okay, sweet man, I did.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
Based on that series loosely, Spielberg took these Amazing Stories
and tournaments just beautiful, beautiful positive storytelling.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
And did he have did he like direct a couple
or did he like produce?

Speaker 1 (39:07):
He did. It's the produced pumps the whole thing, just
like h on the new one. It's not the Aviator,
it's going on the Masters of the Air. Have you
seen that on I haven't.

Speaker 2 (39:17):
It's on my list because we are big Man.

Speaker 1 (39:19):
Shows absolute solid goal equals about better than Bandon Brothers
in my.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
Opinion really, because like I was like, oh, this is
the next extension of Banner Brothers in the Pacific, so
beautiful story.

Speaker 1 (39:30):
It's addict of the Watts because you get to see
from the perspective of all these vintage pilots from like
the nineteen forties. It gets into everything from the beginning
to d day, the prison camps, the pilots getting shot down,
people bailing out, people getting caught in planes while they're
bailing out and not living. Yeah, crashing and they're getting
caught and whatever. Everything.

Speaker 2 (39:49):
We gotta we gotta watch that because we're addicted to
specifically Apple TV because they seem to be the best,
our favorite network science fiction for science fiction television specifically
have a.

Speaker 1 (40:00):
Zilla series Monarch with Kurt Russell on his son.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
Not yet, because we were juggling between like, uh Silo
and and uh the Foundation Foundation. Uh, my wife's already
watched the second season. I'm it's gonna save it because
I know they're taking their time for season three, but
season one was really excellent. And then, uh, what am

(40:26):
I blanking? Oh mythic quest. I love as people who work,
and I've worked in video games for a little bit,
so yeah, I just love that side of this element.
And then I haven't gotten chance to Dark Matter, which
I feel like is such an incredibly I heard nothing
but great, awesome, heady things about that show too. The
expanse No, no boy, I hear it's amazing.

Speaker 1 (40:49):
That show is solid gold. I mean I would watch
the Rams up then wow at the ending of that. Well,
there's suposedly other books, but they take place I think
years later or something.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
Okay, it's only five seasons right on Amazon.

Speaker 1 (41:03):
My season Bezos another two or three seasons after it
was on the sci Fi Channel.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
That's how you know. It's like, if you have Bezos
who's like, I like your show, I will basically keep
it on the air single handedly. That's that's when you know.

Speaker 1 (41:14):
One of the old when sci Fi Channel came out
and was like, uh yeah, he says, like, and you're
watching the sci Fi Channel like that fiction channel.

Speaker 2 (41:23):
Yeah, that was The sci Fi Channel was my first
exposure really to Dune because they had that mini series.

Speaker 1 (41:29):
Frank Herber eighty four Dune or.

Speaker 2 (41:32):
No, it's a they had a sci Fi Channel movie
mini series in the.

Speaker 1 (41:37):
Played the dad that was in He played Jimer Ross
and but now he died, so it's a Harrison Ford.
He also played uh the Lost in Space movie for
the Nights he played the dad.

Speaker 2 (41:46):
Yeah, yeah, exactly exactly. So like that was because Dune
is a like a you know, a bible basically amongst
our family. So I but I didn't get it to
it till after I watched that mini series and then
too I believe as well. Yeah, yeah exactly, and then
I read I read that book, I read Dune and
then uh, and then I went back to watch the

(42:08):
David Lynch movie and then felt like I got my fill.
And then now that villain.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
Really holds up. I mean even the special effects in this.

Speaker 2 (42:15):
Day and dude, it's so strange, Like I know, that's
like at the time it was so maligned, but like
my spice is the worm. Yeah, it's uh. It was
such a huge thing amongst our house that my dad
showed me that. That was another sci fi that my
dad showed me at a very young age. Was and
now that was my first exposure to Patrick Stewart, even

(42:37):
before t was a little bit of just a little bit,
still holding on to a little bit.

Speaker 1 (42:42):
So you Gurny, have you seen the new one where
Josh Brolin plays like.

Speaker 2 (42:46):
Oh man, yeah, yeah, oh my god, yeah, that one.
I'm just glad they like had a chance to take
their time with it. I think that's always the hard
part adapting Dune is like how much how can you
fit it in? Because mini series is a lot of
an ass, but a movie is not enough. So glad
they found the right down.

Speaker 1 (43:02):
Yeah, I liked it. They had Dave Batista and there
it was the whole star cast, Josh Brolin, Timothy Shamela,
Jason Momoas and then he played that it was his
the buddy from the first film was not Gurney. It
was the guy, you know, the.

Speaker 2 (43:17):
Guy his Yeah, exactly, his his, his like best friend
that was also bodygart and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (43:22):
So Dad was good. Yeah, Oscar isaac Man was amazing.
The cool thing about the new one, the brand new
part two, Yeah, I liked when they had the signet
ring that allowed you access to the Trade's atomic warhead vault.

Speaker 2 (43:36):
Yeah yeah, so I was.

Speaker 1 (43:37):
Like, these are the Sacred Trade's whatever atomic vaults. So
when they came out with that movie in between that,
I believe it was dark Horse Comics or somebody released
only five hundred in the world, okay, of the exact polled,
exact replica exact size of the Treats signet ring which

(44:00):
are going for like a thousand dollars in or something.
I don't quote me pretty much.

Speaker 2 (44:03):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 (44:04):
They only released the Comic Con I think exclusive on
the side. They sold out for a year. So I
was in line at the Strange New World Star Trek
exhibit because I was doing some stuff down there and
I stopped buying look at some of the screen use
costumes and play around with some of the video stuff.
And I'm sitting there about you know, I was like,
I couln't even believe I got two or three people.
I'm right in there. But right before I got in there,
it's this dude behind me. He's wearing this really pent

(44:26):
ringing like I've seen that something. Where did you get that?

Speaker 2 (44:30):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (44:30):
They've got it over there? It's the tradey sing what
so where I want to go? There? Raced up there.
I wanted to mock eate like Warp Speed, you know,
breaking Warp mainframe and light Speed. They only had two left.
I was like, yeah, I don't need to. I want
to get what should about.

Speaker 2 (44:47):
Total in the box?

Speaker 1 (44:49):
Man? It's gorgeous, absolutely going, you know. The one they
handle display was gorgeous.

Speaker 2 (44:52):
Dude, that sounds like also like because I used to
go to Comic Con every year. I went for about
ten years straight, but then I just haven't been back
since the pandemic. That sounds like, that sounds like the
fun rush of comic gun. I was a Mondo poster
guy for a long time, so I would go and
try to rush over for posters at the specific timings
or sometimes there would be the scavenger hunts. But then
the gas lamp that you would do.

Speaker 1 (45:14):
So, yeah, gaslam districts fretting crazy. It must twenty thousand
people part in a four am doing Yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
I was about to say, like I've been driven down
there before.

Speaker 1 (45:22):
It's like walking weeks to have the metal things come up.
They block off the entire area. Oh my god, on
that street it's like straight like all the way to
the convincement.

Speaker 2 (45:32):
I can't believe they've been able to keep it up
like that for that size for so so long, like
especially here.

Speaker 1 (45:37):
They brow record almost I think it was like fifty something.
Those massive so many it was even more massive I
think equal not more than the fiftieth anniversary in twenty nineteen.

Speaker 2 (45:47):
That's crazy. I guess there's just so much pent up
even still from the pandemic. People are just like, when
can we go back? When can we go back? Because
I used to go all the time. I was a
hall h guy for a long time. So basically I
did all the camping out like basic. I think the
longest you camped out. I think the longest I camped
out there. And it's fun. You you if you prep
well enough and you friend people on line, it's not

(46:08):
bad at all. But I was there for thirty six
hours for the Force Awakens panel in twenty fifteen, and
I was just a delirious blank of a person mess.
And so when they did the panel and I was
just like, oh yeah, this is cool. They got practical creatures,
walk on the set, fun, I'm having a good time.
And then they shuffle us all off with the stormtroopers
to do the private concert on that little island peninsula thing.

(46:31):
I was a delirious state. I was just like, where
are you taking me? I have no idea what's happening.
And then they give me a lightsaber and they're like you,
they give you a lightsaber to hold up because of
the John Williams concert they do. They wanted to phono opum.
He did like a special Star Wars concert just for
the panel and the people who went, so it was
genuinely insane. It was like Abrams and you know Mark

(46:54):
Hamill and.

Speaker 1 (46:56):
True yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:58):
Exactly, They're basically entered using the whole thing. So it
made it was like, I think it we all talk
about it as the year that it broke the hall
H line because everyone's like, if you're gonna like get
a private concert by John Williams, everyone should wait out
in line for all age. And now every time we
try to do Halh now since then, like from twenty
sixteen on, it was like, oh my god, you have
to now sleep out there for two to three days

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just to get the marble panel.

Speaker 1 (47:20):
That dead pull of Wolverine actually screened the movie at
Comic on this year with all those drones with all
the animations.

Speaker 2 (47:26):
On this dude, oh my god, did that? Did you
see that drone show where that marble with like.

Speaker 1 (47:31):
The claws coming out in the sky and the dead
but even a Galactus from Fantastic.

Speaker 2 (47:35):
Galactus thing was so insane.

Speaker 1 (47:38):
The car that they floated on stage the Fantastic before.

Speaker 2 (47:41):
Dude, Yeah, the invisible car thing was so crazy, Like
that was the thing, like I'm just like sitting there
being like, there's no way this is the year that
hall h was not going to live up to a stage.
And then I watched videos of Yeah.

Speaker 1 (47:52):
My favorite was like, so they had the doctor Doom
and then everybody's just going crazy. Dude, Yeah they ask.

Speaker 2 (48:00):
Task whatever it dude, that's why you go, man, because
there's no It's like it's like if you took like
all of the energy that you get in a concert,
but just compact it into an hour and you're just
constant rush and Russian rush. It's like, arguably sometimes better
than some of the movies.

Speaker 1 (48:15):
A magical place. Like we're walking down there, we're talking
this way, this way, and then a gentleman's walking this
way with his one dude, like his buddy or a
handler or something. Its nonchalant. So he looked tired of scribe.
You know what it was? He just got a two
hour panel and he's, you know, fifty some years old,
Jannerres Jenners. Yeah, dude, super cool guys down there playing

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pinball on the floor. What what it is new? But seriously,
I mean it was amazing, And so I was like, well,
there's that happened. But everybody's there. Somebody. I'm flipping around.
I meet Sam J. Jones from Ted and Flash Gordon.
Oh no, they sent me a freak comic. Took a
free pick all this stuff. Ran into my friend Mark Rolston.
He played in Aliens with a big heavy guy, those

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encounters Michael Reese. Michael Bean played Kyle Reese, and he
was yeah Hicks or something. Yeah, amazing, absolutely solid gold.

Speaker 2 (49:08):
You never know, you get a run onto the floor. Man.
I mean, Matrix is my favorite movie of all time.
So Keanu Reeves would have.

Speaker 1 (49:13):
Just found me. I mean, I was like when I
first went to Comic Con the very first time, I'm like,
this is a little bit wowd you have like twenty
foot tall you know whatever, Gundam statues.

Speaker 2 (49:24):
What was your first year?

Speaker 1 (49:26):
I went well, the first year I was supposed to
go eighteen, but nineteen to know when I was supposed
to go nineteen, twenty twenty one, twenty two, three, twenty
four to twenty five, two or three years to habit?

Speaker 2 (49:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (49:34):
What So I started doing live streams more in podcasts.

Speaker 2 (49:37):
Up on that, gotcha? Gotcha? Yeah. I was there from
twenty twelve all the way through twenty eighteen. So I
wasn't there for the fiftieth. Yeah, and it went every year.
It was crazy, man. And to see it grow like
it's just crazy over that decade.

Speaker 1 (49:51):
Yeah, I think it'll be a well. New York Comic
Con is another flip of the coin. It's a mass event.
Some buddies are just begging me to go to that.

Speaker 2 (49:58):
That looks like in a few weeks right this month.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
Yeah, I've got one of our people on, a super
cool guy, Jeffrey. He's going to go down there and
take some photography and video and got to be a correspondent.
Was we got another one of our correspondent. Let's we'll
be going to Star Wars celebration in Tokyo.

Speaker 2 (50:13):
Those those are I heard the Star Wars celebrations also
that year.

Speaker 1 (50:16):
So twenty nineteen Star Wars is a phenomenal. The twenty
seventeen forties was amazing. Nineteen was cool because we were
allowed access back to the green room and then we
had some of the actors. We got also got the
guy that created the force FX lightsaber technology. I was, ooh,
that's the week we produced it must have spent like
nine or ten hours a day on the confo with

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three camera rings and fold lady HD filming b roll footage.
You remember that video maybe on Facebook you amount of
seenieror have seen it, maybe not where at the beginning
of it has is George Lucas turns around and as
the force push and the camera goes way back. Nick
chicks in, like you've seen that?

Speaker 2 (50:52):
Yes, I think, yeah, I don't he produced that video?

Speaker 1 (50:55):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (50:56):
Oh yeah, cool. I love that.

Speaker 1 (50:59):
We did that video and I told him, I said,
look for this, and they got all the end like
the guy boxing with them and the like the the
dart fighter got him and the obi wan spun it
up and all the We sit there for hours looking
for stuff, filming it, getting them to interact with the camera,
and it was just absolutely I mean I was like, Wow,
this looks great.

Speaker 2 (51:17):
We want to do an.

Speaker 1 (51:19):
Yeah, we want to go next year to Comic Con.
And that video was probably if you were to make
it and probably produced by five thousand dollars video easy
production on that.

Speaker 2 (51:28):
And you would get so much return on that considering
just how much.

Speaker 1 (51:31):
Facebook got pissed they spammed it, what it was getting
shared in hundreds and hundreds of subgroups and pages, so.

Speaker 2 (51:39):
So they thought it was just like blatant.

Speaker 1 (51:41):
There was viral. I mean I'm talking thousands of comments.
In between there was conversations between that they're sharing him
say hey, shout the Bob. So I checked this one out.
I'm like, I was like, damn. And then they like
send this, oh copyright of spamming for whatever. I'm like,
come on, Zuckerberg, we need to talk. Hey school. So

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the I like what they do now this. Have you
seen those VR things, the metaquest three things?

Speaker 2 (52:05):
Oh yeah, I had a ps VR for a lot
for like when it first came out, and like, I
really was into the tech in like twenty seventeen when
it was starting to really blow up. But I haven't
gotten into the newer models yet. I heard they're great.

Speaker 1 (52:20):
So this next gen technology that some of my people
and my friends are working on is a without getting
into the two spoiler alert mildly, it's a virtual reality aspect.
It takes all the highlights of like the Marrow War
film or stars and submerses you in full blown three
sixty years so you can see the Captain of America
show coming at you or whatever, and it's all virtual

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reality and high risk bleeding HD. So imagine being like,
I don't know, Guardings of the Galaxy and you're sitting
there in front of Thenos or whatever Star Wars and
there's Vader coming at you in a hallway and you're
right there with all the troopers in Rogue one. Anything goes.
So that's what they're developing now. I think that's in
the next generation. They've got a there's a video game

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and a sci fi movie they're doing down there.

Speaker 2 (53:05):
I think like, have you been to the Have you
been to like the malls where they have like the
VR experiences that take up a whole situation.

Speaker 1 (53:12):
It's better than that. Yeah, yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (53:15):
Think I went to one that was like a Star
Wars themed one a little bit.

Speaker 1 (53:18):
The Vader's Immortal where they throw the saber you can
catch it.

Speaker 2 (53:21):
Yeah, they had that.

Speaker 1 (53:22):
At twenty nineteen Star Wars celebration. You could try it
out before anybody goes amazing, Oh.

Speaker 2 (53:26):
That's so cool. Yeah, that's the kind of experience, throw.

Speaker 1 (53:29):
It and catch it and yeah, robot drorids flows.

Speaker 2 (53:34):
Yeah. Did you ever? Did you ever get close to
doing the Star Wars hotel that Disney.

Speaker 1 (53:38):
Did, I've not done that. I think they pulled the
plug on that if I'm mistaking or something they did.

Speaker 2 (53:43):
I wanted to. I was so curious about it, but
by the time I was like, look, even looking into it, it
was already pulled the plug. I wasn't sure if you
had gone or if you.

Speaker 1 (53:50):
Had we hadn't been. We've been traveling so much. They
pulled the plug. I was going to go. I still
have not actually checked out the Star Wars theme park.
I'm really wanted to go down with a camera crew
and do some crazy stuff done with them. I mean,
I've seen the videos.

Speaker 2 (54:02):
I've seen videos, but I have not yet gone down
since they even it was like pre yeah, Galaxy's Edge.
So yeah, I'm just.

Speaker 1 (54:09):
Sad to hear. By the way people joining us, we
would like to pay respects to James Earl Jones, the
voice of Darth Vader himself. Sorry and everybody. I rest
in peace and send the Condulce's family and friends. I
was gonna say too. Speaking of Star Wars, are you
have you seen and or looking forward to season two?

Speaker 2 (54:25):
Oh? I love andor yeah, I can't wait for season two.
We're kind of it's like a dude, like it's just
like it's the first show to really make it feel like, hey,
there's like a true war going on down at like
reminder of like Blade Runner.

Speaker 1 (54:37):
It's reel gritty and like really like serious, but no Jedi.
It's just straight to the point.

Speaker 2 (54:42):
Yeah, very techtile, very like scrappy, very like just true
rebellion in every sense of the word. It really is exciting.
And then just to hear the dialogue in it just
makes it feel like, oh my god. Star Wars truly
is the most like expansive, flexible universe where you can
just put these people in with this voice and then
it feels like you're in a whole nother corner of
the galaxy for sure.

Speaker 1 (55:03):
Well, wrapping up for people that want to find out
about your film, tell where they can go see it
when the premiere is and there's a website or any
links or.

Speaker 2 (55:11):
Yeah, absolutely, you can find Things will be Different starting
tomorrow at your local theater limited run in the United States,
but it's also in UK and Ireland in theaters, and
then it was also going to be a vo D
in the United States. You can find it at Magnet
Releasing dot com slash Things will be Different and.

Speaker 1 (55:30):
You got like write down here on the screen right there,
right there. That's right right there. That's awesome.

Speaker 2 (55:37):
Yeah yeah, you could find it on Apple, Amazon, or
any of your favorite platforms.

Speaker 1 (55:43):
Well, Michael, I want to thank you. Absolutely amazing talking
with you sometimes soon if you do any more sofware,
feel free.

Speaker 2 (55:48):
To join us. Oh my god, this was It felt
like a breeze. I felt like I was on talking
with my friends. So I'm happy to come on any
time you want and talk even more. Sci fi man.

Speaker 1 (55:59):
Appreciate you, man. Remember stay cool. See you soon, brother,
stay cool man.

Speaker 2 (56:03):
Take care