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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back, everybody to another episode of Scream and Sugar,
the true crime podcast that dies into the darker side
of humanity while enjoying a little sweetness on the side.
I am your host, Sahara, I'm Candace, and today we
are going to be covering the unsolved murder of Anna Scott.
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So hell are candies, Hello Sarah, Hello, Speaky squad.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Hey guys, we are back. Okay, guess seems back back again, screen.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Man your friends.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Guess right.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
I feel like if you know that song, you're as
old as.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
You should probably start taking some fiber supplements.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Yeah, for sure. We learned a lot about fiber today
from my husband.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
I'm glad you're okay, William.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Yeah, we love you. But welcome back everybody.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Today we are going to cover a case that hits
a little close to home. This was a tragic story
from here in Reno, Nevada. This story was brought to
my attention by another grad student I know who sometimes
is in my lab, Louise Goody. So thank you Louise
for this case. I think it's a pretty important one,
so we are going to cover it today. It is
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still unsolved and it's relatively recent so just.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Snow just sent me this case, did they?
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Oh my gosh, yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
All right. So Alex also suggests this case not my Alex,
but Sorrel.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Oh okay, thanks Alex.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
She's literally just in this case to me and was
like you I should car for this, not like thanks Carl.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
We just hit the three year work.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
So there's been no further leads in her case. Yeah, awful, So.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
We'll just gonna go through it. There's not a lot
of information out, so I did scrounge up what I
could find. Okay, and we'll get into why we think
that might be. But first we're gonna cover a little coffee.
We had some coffee today from Old World Coffee Roasters.
Old World Coffee roasteras is a tasty little coffee making place.
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They make their own coffee there, and everything they make
is so tasty but so small. It comes in like
these twelve cups, and I'm like, they need an extra large.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
I need like a towny out. So tasty, but I'm
also very caffeinated, so I packed the punch.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
It does pack a small but mighty yeah, and it's
really tasty.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Yeah, And we've covered them before, but I love Old
World coffee, Like they're so fucking.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Good, so and everybody, and they're so nice. I know,
the barista like, let me take his picture. Yeah, and
he made us a cute little By the time I
got here, you couldn't see it, but he made us
like the cute little like foam hearts in my cup.
I just because I took a big old sip. That's
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fine next time, for sure delicious. But yeah, so on
that note, we're gonna go ahead and hop in just
in case somebody tries to kick us out of here.
Before the door. Candice had a crazy like experience trying
to book the podcast week. She thought she booked it because.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
It got to the final screen and then I was like, okay, tight,
we're good. Why don't you book eight fift you ten
to fifteen so we have that four hour block And
then I went back and it was all like that
spot was blocked out, but I did not get a
confirmation email. And then I was like, fine, I'll just
do a fifteen to ten to fifteen. But we're both
sleepy girls. Yeah, so we were here late and yeah,
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so we're gonna try to get through this, but I'm
hoping that there was just a glitch in the matrix,
and we have the ten fifteen to twelve fifteen spot too,
So yeah, cross your fingers.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
For us please, And also maybe whoever did book it,
if it wasn't as won't show up.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Hopefully they maybe this Friday. Come on right, you don't
want to be at school on a Friday.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
No you hate it?
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Yeah you don't. Yeah, yeah, see comes right now.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
I was like, damn speaking it sell.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Earlier. I was just gonna glare at them, like come
to the door, like we're almost done minutes twenty minutes later.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
So yeah, then I guess I will just uh get
on into it. So at around four am on the
morning of February third, twenty twenty two, multiple calls came
into nine one one regarding a vehicle engulfed in flames
on the southbound lanes of I five eighty near Galena
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Creek Bridge in Reno More Sparks. I guess, but emergency
responders rushed to the scene, and upon extinguishing the flames,
authorities made a grim discovery. It was the body of
Anna Marie Scott, a twenty three year old mother and
Pyramid Lake Paiute woman. In the trunk of the vehicle.
Examination of Anna's remains by the Washoe County Regional Medical
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Examiner's Office determined that she had been fatally shot before
the vehicle was set on fire, so her death was
obviously determined to be homicide. So Candace found a source
that shows that the Pyute tribe was able to confirm
that the car belonged to Anna, so it was her
own car that she was in, But as far as
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as confirmation from the police, they have not sent out anything. Surprise,
many have noticed that, unlike in similar cases that occurred
around the same time, like the kidnapping and subsequent murder
of Folin woman nam Arion, law enforcement did not immediately
disclose details about the make and model of the vehicle
or its registered owner. In fact, though the Washoe County
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Sheriff's Office so WCSO has launched an investigation into Scott's murder,
law enforcement has still not been able to solve this case.
In fact, progress in this case appears even slower than usual.
Whereas in many other cases like this, information is released
to the public, like where Anna was leading up to
her death, the investigation who she may have been in
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contact with, All that stuff that we see time and
time again in other cases of murdered women. Even now,
three years later, very very few details have been released
regarding this case, and they say it's because they are
still investigating, it's the ongoing nature, so on and so forth.
But that decision has drawn a lot of criticism from
the public and journalists who argue that transparency will to
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help generate leads. So as of now, the Washoe County
Sheriff's Department, the folks who have jurisdiction on the case,
have released two calls for information. So they've asked for
like Anna's movements prior to her murder and any other
information that people can provide, and to encourage witnesses to
speak up. A five thousand dollars reward was announced for
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the information leading to an arrest in prosecution by secret witness.
So that being said, according to our town reno, the
last time they released any information to the public it
was a month after her death, and as of now,
they still have not put out a single press release.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
There's been no information leading up to her and the
one suspect that they did.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Have, yeah, well, so we'll talk about him in a minute.
So over time, Obviously, frustration has been getting bigger and
bigger and bigger as law enforcement remains quiet about specific
elements of the case. In February twenty twenty three, This
is Reno reported that Washoa County Sheriff's office has refused
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to release information regarding possible suspects or even the circumstances
that led Scott to be in the burned vehicle. So
the lack of transparency around this has fueled concerned that
the case is not receiving the attention it deserves. A
major development, and from what I've seen, the only development
in the case is kind of what you mentioned. Was
a person of interest named Jakry Shaw surfaced in relation
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to Anna's murder. But Shaw was arrested in twenty twenty
three for unrelated violent crime stuff which we will talk
about in a moment, and investigators began to examine potential
connections between his in Anna's case. So reports indicate that
Shaw had previous legal troubles was known to be in
the area around the time of Scott's murder. However, law
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enforcement has remained hesitant to confirm or deny any direct
link between the two cases. So, but get this Shaw,
who was wanted on fel any gun charges from December
twenty first the previous year, including prohibited person in possession
of a firearm, carrying concealed firearm, discharging a firearm where
person's maybe endangered. This all happened downtown in December of
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the previous year. But to handle this, the Reno Sparks
Police Department actually set up a female persona online to
lure him into a fake relationship and get him to
meet up. Yes, queen, yes, this is crazy. So they
started texting him on January thirteenth, twenty twenty two as
a persona called Jessica Jessica, and they were texting and
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interacting on social media for almost two months until they
convinced him to meet up. Isn't that wild?
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Isn't that entrapment?
Speaker 1 (09:43):
I think if you're a wanted person and.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
They can use whatever means okay.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Isn't that insane? I was like saying over, like a.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Could you imagine being that detective that's just corresponding with him?
Speaker 1 (09:54):
And true, Hey, maybe what's up? Girls?
Speaker 2 (09:57):
May dp?
Speaker 1 (09:58):
I know, dude. I was like reading the report and
I was like, what.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Did I want to see those text messages?
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Yeah? Over a Bellani gun charge is surprising, honestly, Like
that feels like so much effort.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Right, Well, if he discharged it and I was not
supposed to be in possession of guns, I don't know. Yeah,
I just're just like shooting it off, like sam shit.
They learning this guy is dangerous, armed and dangerous.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Yeah, I guess that's true. But yeah, So Jessica gets
him to meet up. They go to meet up at
some apartments kind of in midtown by the Peppermilt, and
when Jacorey approaches the car, he noticed that sitting in
the front seat are two uniformed police officers, not haughty
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Jessica as he originally anticipated, so he took off running,
at which time they released a canine on him. The
CA nine grabbed his leg took him down, but within
minutes one of the officers fatally shot him, shot to Corey.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
They claimed that Jacory had a handgun and was raising
it to shoot one of the officers, and the officer
shot him in self defense. But there are some discrepancies
between the report that was filed and the bodycam footage,
both of which I have copies of and can't go
ahead and post them. For you. In the show notes.
One of the larger discrepancies was that the officers stated
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that Jacory had pulled a weapon and they were in
fear for their lives. However, bodycam footage showed that they
could not locate that weapon after the shooting.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Shocking shocking.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
According to an article written by This is Reno and
investigator Kelsey Penrose, she's appeared to have written a few
articles on this case, but she reviewed the bodycam footage
in relation to the DA's report and noticed some glaring holes,
one of which was the location of the gun. So
the gun's end location was marked in a snowbank around
fifty feet from the body. During the bodycam footage, you
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can hear officers looking for the weapon, saying where is it?
Where is the gun? And they're shining flash slights all
over the ground in the area and the weapon cannot
be seen at this point.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Sound was likely he did not have the weapon on
him because he was going to meet this girl and
wasn't planning.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
On or if he did, it's possible he threw.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
It into what Virginia Lake.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
We're just like tossed it away, And I feel like
if you toss your gun away. Chances are you're not
pointing it out an officer, right, It's fifty feet away
from him, right.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
So she says she watched the body cam footage and
she compared it to the DA's report, and she said.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Did she see him trying to throw anything away?
Speaker 1 (12:45):
No, So, but she also says that where the gun
ends up being marked like with the flag later on,
saying like, this is where we found it. Somebody stepped
on it and they got pushed under the snow, is
what they said. But she says, right at the beginning
during the search, the officers have their flashlights and there
is from what she can tell, no gun in the
area that they say. It ended up being so a
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little suspicious. Additionally, the according to the report, it did
not have any blood on it at all, but when
officers were near Jacory, like trying to perform medical attention
on him, they were all covered in blood. So she's like,
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how is it possible that this gun is supposed to
be on his persons when he was being shot but
doesn't have a single bit of blood on it. It's
very very suspicious.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Interesting.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
So, all this to say is that some folks out
there believe this was a case of excessive use of force,
I think pretty clearly, and that if it was not
tied to Anna's case, it certainly hindered it, right.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Because they probably didn't want to have any more backlash
or anyone looking at this under a microscope, even more
than me.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Yeah, Well, what's interesting is this was Sparks PD. Okay,
so it wasn't even the sheriff's office, but somehow he
was the main person of interest. Yeah, and now he's
dead to what appears to be a botch shooting allegedly.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Supposedly allegedly supposedly of course. Yes.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
The Arino Cauzet Journal put out an article in February
of twenty twenty three noting that both Anna and Jaquary
were from well known tribal families with long, long legacies
in their community. So trying to pin this on Jacquarry
without and like when I say Pennant on decorry, they
named him as like a primary person of interest, but
they never explained why. Right, So there's no information to
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either family, and that is causing even more strife and
distrust in the community, which already has a lot of
distrust for outside police forces. And I mean, shit, me too.
I based on what I've witnessed with this case, I'm like, yeah, no,
wonder especially when it feels like these cases just.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Because they're both so they're just pending it on him
because they're both. It said that like they must have
known each other. Yeah, I don't know, I am because
it's just like I read something that I was saying
that they had seen each other or dating. But that's
not the case, right.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Not that I've seen. I mean I did see that
he was just in the same area as her.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
At the same during the time of her murder.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Okay, like yeah, he was just like in the same
did they saw up together? I mean, I'm assuming they
probably knew each other. It sounds like these families were
pretty well known.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Yeah what fuck?
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Oh, I just it was my finger that was fart
a But yeah, I mean super bizarre. It's really hard
because they were both twenty three. Yeah, so they were
the same age.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
They together.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
And now we have no answers. Back to Anna's case,
her murder obviously sent a lot of shockwaves through the community,
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particularly among the Pyramid League, Pietribe, and Indigenous rates activists.
Many express frustration over the cases stalled progress, citing the
broader issue of missing and murdered Indigenous women and themiw
in the United States. Though Indigenous women are missing and
murdered at higher rate, cases are also solved less often, right,
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So it's really hard.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
They do not put as much time and effort or
money towards looking up and solving these cases, Like historically
it's an issue, and so many of them go unsolved
and are just kind of like put at the bottom
of the pile, as opposed to someone like you said,
like Naomi, whose case was solved so quickly. I feel
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like it was like a matter of weeks after she
was kidnapped and murdered. So and she was white, So
I'm glad her case was solved, obviously, Yeah, But at
the same time, it's like there is such a huge
discrepancy of looking into these cases and getting them solved,
and I mean even identifying remains and like repatriating them
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to the appropriate people when it comes to like finding
some of that's been murdered. I don't know, there's just
like there's a whole thing we can get into about that.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
But anyway, yeah, no, and I think we've even mentioned
it on the pod before.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Well, we were at the case of the Picky picked in. Yeah,
so many of those his victims were Jesus Christ. Due,
you're so it's the last You're so popular, your phone's
just like popping off.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Feel like you're clicking. I'm clicking. But yeah, no, I
mean it's so clear sometimes that these women are just
their murders aren't taken it seriously, And I don't understand
what the problem is. Is it just this is just racism?
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Is it because its systemic races? And I don't know.
I feel like there was hardly any media coverage about
this too. Yeah, that really wasn't Not meaning to compare again,
but around the same time when Naomi was taken, like
there were billboards.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
And Kylie Rodney too.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
And Kylie Rodney like all over the place, and you
saw her face, you knew what was going on with
that case. And for this one, I didn't hear about
it until Alex sent me this like last week. I
had not heard of it.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
So that's such a good point. Yeah, the the interest
in this case, I feel like, is smaller. But I
do also feel like if we could get some information
from the Sheriff's department, like I understand playing things close
to the chest, I do, but I feel like it
doesn't help the community help you, Right, there's no information.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Well, with the lack of transparency too, it doesn't promote
any type of trust either, because.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Now we're all sitting here going have you been done
any Yeah?
Speaker 2 (18:58):
What are you covering up?
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Like?
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Why aren't you releasing any information?
Speaker 1 (19:02):
And poor Ja Cory's family is sitting there going, what
the fuck, what the fuck did you kill my son? Yeah,
it's just yeah, it's bad all around, very bad. A
month after her death, the American Indian Movement so AIM
of Northern Nevada held a prayer circle in front of
the Washoe County Sheriff's office asking for more information on
Anna's murder. The director of AIM, ray Becca Segua Valdez,
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and I'm so sorry if I butchered that said that
in the end, justice is in the hands of the creator.
We are looking for accountability. So one year after her death,
the Pyramid Lake Piute tribe said that they were holding
a celebration of love for Anna at her grave site
and Nixon in the Nixon Cemetery, again asking anyone who
knows what happened.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
To come forward.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Now we are on year three was still no information.
So in early twenty twenty five, our town Reno reported
renewed efforts by Scott's family and tribe to seek justice
or I guess to seek accountability. Flyers were circulated on
social media urging individuals with any knowledge to come forward.
One flyer said someone out there knows something and has
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chosen to remain silent. Another said, speak up, speak out.
The community truly believes that someone is out there and
know something is just not coming forward, right and clearly
it's really hard to rely on the police at this point.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Well, and what I'm thinking too is if they I
don't know, they lured Jaquori to this location, shot and
killed him, Like come on.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Yeah, Well, and what's crazy is in that article I
was reading, No, an article I was reading when he
got shot, the canine handler said that they had drawn
their weapon, noticed he did not have a gun, and
put their weapon back in there.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Right because the dog had it under control.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Yeah, and then they came over and pulled the dog
off and they were like there was no weapon there.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
So oh so it's probably an investigation with him.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
That's what Well, and it's hard to say, because the
DA's report came out and said everything's kosher.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
So I don't know.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
I'm just trying to anyway, can't trust. But there's another
point that I wanted to make. I don't know, I
can't think of it. Well, wouldn't they be able to
see what caliber the like bullets were that were in Annah.
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Wouldn't they be able to trace those back to a
weapon that Jacory had, Like that you would be able
to find if she still had I'm assuming she still
had the bullets in her right and they just set
the car on fire to try to get rid of
any trace evidence.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
But I think the only thing is they would have
to have access to the original weapon. So if they
couldn't find that original weapon.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
Then wouldn't be able to get a warrant he tossed
it or something, or if he had given it away
or sold it or whatever, then they wouldn't be able
to tell because.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
It was all illegal firearms that they were getting trying
to get them for anyway, fine.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
I know, Well, I would just like to know what
this tie was between the two other than they were
in the same area in the.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Same time from the same time.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Give me something else.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Time at the time of death, like they don't know
where she was killed though. That was the other issue, right.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Yeah, well they don't know at least they haven't told
us that they know where she was killed. They haven't
told us that they know where she was the last
few days. And I'm like, this is twenty twenty, twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
She was missing for a couple of days, right, yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
And I'm like, why isn't this just tell people like, Hey,
we think she went to the store, we think she
was in this area. If anybody in this area has information, like,
please let us know, because I feel you.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
Could sectv like all of the different cameras are everywhere
have probably figured out how to track her own GPS
if they could just like yeah, exactly crazy.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
I just feel like.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
They should be able to trace her steps and figure
out where she was iup until the time of her disappearance.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
And I feel like until there's increased pressure on the
Wahwao County Sheriff's office, they's something they're not going to do.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Any They're not going to use their resources, whether that
be mon monetary or otherwise manpower hours.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Man.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Local news outlets have continued to press the sheriff's office
for answers. In February twenty twenty four, Colo TV actually
airedish segment in that discuss the case is on resolved
status and continue to try to reinforce the ongoing concerns
about law enforcement's lack of communication. The Sierra and About
An ally actually published a similar piece around the same time,
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criticizing the lack of transparency and started asking, like, how
is this family going to get closure?
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Right? Right? There's no justice for this poor woman and
her child, Like she had like an infant, right, and
he was very young. I think the picture was like
a couple of years old.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Yeah, yeah, he's he's definitely young, like not a manement sorry,
but still at all. Yeah, and now he has to
grow without his mother, right, and that's a horrible, horrible,
horrible thing. So I guess all this is to say that,
as of now, the murder of Anna Scott remains completely unsolved.
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The Washoe County Shriff's Office continues to seek information from
the public, but no arrests have been made. I do
have just a little place that if you do know
something and you.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Have any information, yeah, go ahead, and.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
If you have any information related to this case contact
the Washoe County Sheriff's Office Detective Division at seven to
seventy five three two eight three three two zero, or
you can submit it completely anonymously through Secret Witness at
seven seven five three two two four nine zero zero.
The case number is w C as in cat two
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two five six three and was a loving mother. She
was a beloved member of her community, and her family
deserve answers.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Absolutely, thanks for sharing that story that case, Sahara, and
I hope that her killer or killers are brought to
justice soon and that her family gets the closure that
they need and deserve, right.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Yeah, And you know, I think that's probably one of
the biggest things that the true crime community is so
important for, which is keeping light on a lot of
unsolved cases and trying to get justice for people who
are not forgotten. Who does need to.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Look through the cracks of a justice system, Yeah, the
judicial system. Yeah, and especially marginalized communities. I mean, obviously
we've already discussed this, but Indigenous women go missing all
the fucking time, and there is not enough effort put
into solving their disappearances. Are their murders, So absolutely, men
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and women but primarily women.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
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Speaker 1 (26:48):
Thanks for hanging out with us on this half calf,
and we hope to catch you in the next one.
I remember, stay.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Spooky, y'all.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
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Speaker 2 (27:45):
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Speaker 1 (27:52):
This is how I do. It's Friday night, Okay, looked lovely.