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The views and opinions expressed on thispodcast are not necessarily those the SCVHGC,
any division, brigades, camps,or other subsidiary, strictly those of us
expressing them. Welcome to the firstPatreon exclusive episode of SCV chat Really Quickly.
My name is GCB. I'm herewith my co host and producer Moose.

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We are creating this podcast as abook review of Albion Seed The Four
British folk Ways into America by DavidHackett Fisher. For those who are interested
in learning more, definitely get abook, a copy of the book and
read it. And that's kind ofwhat we're doing. This is for that

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y'all can read along with us.One thing that we do want to mention
is that this episode is going tobe broadcast worldwide, or at least put
out there for everybody listen to.For the subsequent episodes following this, especially
when we dive into the individual waysof the books that'll make more sense when

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we talk about it here in asecond, as well as the overview of
the Scotch, Irish and Cavalier culturesneed to be a part of our patron
Now we may launch those episodes wherewe do the overview of of those different
groups, then again we may not. It's to be determined. So we're

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doing this as part of the Moosebook Club. Moose who is okay?
What have okay? Technical difficulties,just just keep going. So I had
this idea about almost a year ago. I just kept putting it off and

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there wasn't really good time to adda third show to our repertoire and are
already busy schedules when it comes toSCV chat. But I kind of felt
a calling to do this, andwhen we launched the Patreon, I was
like, this is a good timeto do it. We need a Patreon
exclusive show. And I jumped theidea on Connor mainly as payback, but

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I did want to talk to himabout it seriously. So after I announced
it to Connor, me and himtalked about it and I was like sheelby
Foot once said, you know,becoming a historian is like a becoming a
doctor, our lawyer. There's alot of studying, a lot of hard
work, a lot of sweat thatgoes into learning your craft and becoming an

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actual real historian. You don't justwrite a book. You don't just get
a degree. And while I hearyou go, you're a historian, I
respect that title too much to justsay, okay, well I'm a historian.
No. I believe there's a lotof hard work, and for someone
who wants to be historian, Iask myself, well, what do I
want to become an expert in?And me and Jez B Carl Jones and

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a couple other people talked, andI wanted to understand the American Revolutionary War,
the war between the States, butmore importantly, or not more importantly,
but as important, I wanted tounderstand Southern culture and the culture of
America and kind of why we arein the boat we are today and how

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to understand it all. Because ifyou understand the culture of something, our
culture as Southerners are in a littlebit as a Yankee, you get to
understand the history ten times more,in my opinion, you come to a
better understanding of it. So that'swhat we're doing. You're on the journey

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of me Moose becoming a historian.And that's why I wanted it to be
a book review where you'll join alongwith me. GCB joined along basically to
keep me on track, and mainlybecause I probably would never film an episode
because when it gets to stuff likethis, I can get a bit anxious.
You can talk to him about thaton Patreon afterwards. Because I I

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I tried to put off this episodeas long as we can, and even
when we got into the recording studio, I was like, oh, just
just give me a minute, letme, let me make sure I have
whole my ducks in a row,and it's just it's best to go live
and let me talk off the topof my head with what I've learned.
But yeah, I'm really excited aboutthis. This one was recommended by Carl

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Jones, who I respect as ahistorian, even though he says he's not
one, he is of an understandinghe is. He's an autodidact. What
is that, Connor? Uh?That is a self taught, self educated
person, which you know is journeyhere. Yeah yeah, yeah, well,

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and and to go to build offwhat Shelby Foot said. Robert E.
Lee said that the education of aman has never completed until his death,
So you know, that's that's kindof what we're doing, you know,
just continuing on to learn. Butit's it's important for us to do
this because as it's been repeatedly statedon the show. Your worldview was formed

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two hundred years before you were born. So understanding our worldview as well as
the Yankee worldview is paramount for oursuccess because, as son Zeus said,
if you know the enemy and knowyourself, you need not fear the result
of one hundred battles. If youknow yourself but not the enemy, for
every victory gained, you will suffera defeat. And that's a huge point

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I want to come back to ina second. But suppose you know neither
your enemy nor yourself. In thatcase, you'll succumb in every that battle,
At least from my point of viewdealing with our various organizations that we're
in preserving, So in history,specifically Confederate history, it feels like we'll
we'll get two or three great victories, but then we'll get four or five

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major defeats, and it's a constant. You know, we make progress,
we make progress, we're kicked back, and you know that's uh, that
that that's huge. You know,in order for us to be able to
capitalize, we have to and wehave a pretty good knowledge of ourselves,
the Southerners. Yeah, we do. We know where we come from.

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We know our ancestry, you know, but we we there's definitely more that
we can know about ourselves, butwe we try not to think about Yankee
culture. There was a movie thatcame out years ago, UH called Ride
with the Devil, and it's apoint of view of the border war there
in Missouri, UH, during thewar between the States, and there's a

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scene in there where they talk aboutthe founding of Lawrence, Kansas and that
when the Yankees came in, UH, the first thing they did before they
built their town hall, before theytheir first church, before they built anything,
they built a schoolhouse and they groundedup every single kid from their area,
and they, uh, they indoctrinateand began indoctrinating them. But here's

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the big thing, the difference,and that's the big difference between us and
them. They they they and andwe'll talk about that some more. And
it's kind of the underlying uh thingthat we'll talk about theme that we'll talk
about in this episode is that Yankeescare about what and how you think.
Southerners for the most part, wedon't give a damn thing. I mean,

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you go ahead and do your thing. I'll do my thing, and
yeah, we'll move on with life. But that's the thing we do.
We don't understand that we and andto understand that, we have to understand
where it originally comes from. Butit's important to understand understand our our heritage,
our culture because uh, it embodiesthe traditions and values and customs that

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make us who we are as ourown independent people. Uh, brain Park,
you have anything you want to addwith that, Moose? I like
because I love that art of warquote you do, and I think it's
very important. A lot of Southerners, they definitely understand our heritage and culture,

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some more than others. That that'sgoing to range no matter what you
do, but not a lot ofthem understand our enemy. And there's some
people that have no idea what's goingon. And I've been on that side
of the fence too. I amnot throwing stones for the long part of
my life. I got the basicsand I was like, Okay, well
I got the knowledge I need toI'm moving on. And I guess that's

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something else we want to accomplish withthis series is to make sure that not
only are you getting the exclusive show, you get to see me learn and
grow as a future historian, butyou also grow along with us and understand
what we're trying to accomplish here asnot just historians, but two Southern men,

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two people who love our culture andour heritage that we're trying to preserve
it so that we can pass iton to our kids and our grandkids.
And I think that's why this serieshas been so much on my heart is
I think there's room for everybody tolearn something in this series. And I
definitely think that this is something Ihope takes off because of that, because

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when you do understand yourself and youunderstand your enemy, well, the war
for our culture and our heritage isabout to go a lot more our way,
I think, and hopefully this kindof gets out there. Yeah,
and that's the other thing. TheYankees don't understand our culture either. If
they knew, if they really did, they'd understand that. You know,

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if it's something we're passionate about,it's something we're willing to fight, bleed
and die for. So you know, this is just as we've talked about
more ammunition for us. It's it'skind of like, you know, as
far as war between the state's historygoes if you wanna to equate it to
something, it's it's kind of like, this is us finding Special Order number
ninety one. This is us,you know, instead of the Federals finding.

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This is us, you know,finding out what their plan of attack
is. By understanding where they whothey are, where they're coming from,
we understand, Uh, the Yankeemindset will get more victory. And the
other thing is, you know,it kind of goes into what our our
thing is with with seb chat reclaimingthe narrative one week at a time.

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We we want to do that.And and part of that narrative is is
Southern culture, Southern history, uh, and Southern heritage because it's it is
unique, it is ours, andit's something that has shaped American culture.
Yesterday was was the fourth of July. It's July fifth right now, and
I was going to put on Facebookand Instagram a a picture collage of the

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various Southerners who were influential in inthat founding generation. Richard Henry, Lee,
Patrick Henry, Uh, George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, John Taylor of
Caroline, James Madison, Uh swampFox excuse me, uh yeah, yeah,

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Richard Henry as well as Lighthorse Harry, Uh, the the various different
men of the South who had aninfluence on on what became you know,
uh, these United States. Andyou know what on Instagram you can only
put ten pictures up at a time. I would have had to done five
different posts with with the different picturesof various Southern heroes. Uh, that

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that were influential, and and thatthat's the thing, Southern history and heritage.
There would not be United States withoutit. It would be very if
there was, it would be very, very different. Uh. But but
that's that's why so bortant for usto preserve it. But also because and
it's as we've talked about, aswe've written about before on our blog on
Patreon, in our point of view, or at least in my point of

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view, I'm gonna speak for Harrison. Uh, the South is at a
crossroads with an identity crisis that wehave been we've been looking at for the
past one hundred and sixty years.And the eradication of our culture is happening,
our radication of our not not justour our sites, but but what
makes us who we are. Andthat's because of one hundred and sixty years

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of subjugation and abuse, abuse thatwe'veven geared at the hands of the Yankees.
Now, now, one thing thatwe want to make perfectly clear when
we talk about Yankees in this podcast, we are not talking about people that
are necessarily geographically from the North.We're talking about a cultural and philosophical ideology.

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Your your stereotypical Yankee. You'r IchabodCrane yankee, the guy who has
all the key carecharacteristics that hack HacketFisher writes about and and that we're done
two hundred years ago, four hundredyears ago, and that he's still perpetuating
to this day. It's not apolitical ideology. It is not a geographical

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It is purely cultural when we speakabout Yankees. And and it's important you
know, snuff can uh you couldtell. That's one thing we love about
the podcast. If you think thatwe get off the off the rails and
get off topic and I do giveyou things on the show, you're really
gonna get it on uh on theon the podcast one uh. Because this

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is this is we don't have atime limit, We don't have viewers to
to worry about watching in and out. You can listen to this at your
own leisure. Oh and you knowwhat, there may be some explicit words
said, yeah, no, notthat one. Uh. But still because
the South has been beaten down forhunt in sixty years and we've been tormented

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and been abused, what has happenedis, uh, Southern culture has has
been eroded. And it's it's almostto the point of I call it a
natural selection. It is occurring.Uh, but you know it's it's uh
survival of the fittest, not notnecessarily you know, Uh, that way

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it's better. It's better though nowI'm thinking about it is an invasive species.
Uh, Yankee culture is is moreof an invasive species than anything else.
This species comes in and it competeswith the same resources that that are
already out there, in this casethe resources being the people, and and
it weakens. Now let's say it'sbecause of a drought, or let's say

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because it's a frost or something happens, and and and the plant in this
case, or or or the animal. You know, it's because it's competing
for the natural resources that are outthere, and because it has already been
weakened by some outside force that isbeyond its control. You know, now

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all of a sudden, this,this stronger, more dominant thing could come
in there and invade and take overits habitat. And I think that's a
fair assessment where we are. Ithink it's very fair. I mean,
we talked about some of the greatmen from Virginia that helped found this country.
Virginia has always been a leading examplefor not just the South, but

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all of America. And if youlook at it now, there's some lovely
thunder that's going to be in thealls audio now. But if you look
at us now as a as aculture and a people, you can tell
that, say, the great Stateof Virginia, it is starting to lose

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its culture. And I'm not justtalking about its history with Monument Avenue,
but look at its people. TheSouthern culture there is being chopped down.
Well, well, let's let melet me see there. It's yeah,
in in in the major metropolitan areas, uh where where Yankees have moved in

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and and that's all across the South. There was another book that uh is
on our our ones to read.That's that's uh Dixie Rising. I can't
remember the exact name of it,but it was written in the nineteen nineties.
It's not to be confused with theKennedy's book, Uh, but it
talks about how the South influenced Americaand you know, everything like that.
And what has happened in uh,in the Yankee States, and what we've

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seen happen is uh Uh, theYankee ideology has gone has grown so much.
And we're talking about with government,we're talking about with taxes all that
stuff, and and what has happenedis the erosion of of the the principles
of this country was founded that aresouthern principles have been have been taken out

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of those areas to where now it'swhere now a vast majority of industries are
are moving down south. And whenthey move down south, they're bringing in
they're bringing in their their corporate leadsfrom from up north and they're moving them
down here. Or you know,because businesses are down here, Yankees are

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moving down here and instead of checkingtheir culture at the Mason Dixon line,
Uh, they're they're bringing their ownin. And and that's again talking about
the eradication or not the eradication,but the invasive speeches. Uh. Is
you know, it's kind of wherewe are with it. Uh. And
that's what's happening at least on theoutskirts of Alexandria, Virginia, in Richmond,

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and and several other key cities inthe South, Atlanta, Birmingham,
Jackson, well, well, Jacksonhas its own problems. Uh, but
South Haven, Oxford, Oxford,Uh, Oxford, Mississippi. You know,
Tupelo, Mississippi. Uh, youknow uh uh, Nashville, Tennessee.

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All these all these places where wehave these people moving in and and
bringing their ideology is is what we'reseeing. But it's time for us who
are the natives of the natives ofthat area to stand up and say no
and no, it's not because it'simportant. Churchill is reported as saying,
one of the signs that a greatsociety is diligence is the diligence with which

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it passes culture from one generation tothe next. This culture is the embodiment
of everything the people of that societyhold dear, it's religious faith, it's
heroes. When one generation no longeresteems its own heritage and fails to pass
the torch to its children, andis saying in essence that the very foundational
principles and the experiences that make thesociety what it is are no longer valid.

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This leaves that generation without any senseof definition or direction and making them
the fulfillment of Karl Marx's dictum ofpeople without a heritage are easily persuaded.
In such a situation, leaders mustemerge who have not forgotten the discarded legacy
of those of who love it withall their hearts. They can then become

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the voice of that lost generation,moving an air generation back to the faith
of their fathers and to the ancientfoundations and bad rock values. And that's
where we are. That's what we'retrying to do. That's what we're trying
to accomplish with this, as wellas everything with that sev chat. It's
just a natural continuation as far asyou know, being better, better educated

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on our history, but also figuringout those people's history, figuring out our
heritage their heritage, stuff like that. And Hacketfisher, David Hacketfisher does a
great job of lining it out nowbefore we dive directly into the Puritans.
This is one thing that we reallywant to clear up. This is not
your stereotypical history book. No,it does not start with Roanoak as I

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would have assumed even though Roanoak wasthe lost colony. It does not start
in sixteen oh seven with Jamestown.It does not even start with sixteen twenty
with Plymouth Colony. It starts withMassachusetts Bay Colony in the sixteen twenties,
and it fasts forward and it followsthe progression all the way through to the
Revolution, and he follows the majorcultural migrations that come over. So historically

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speaking, yes, yes, Jamestownwas the first permanent English settlement settlement in
North America. Huzzah, we didit first here, folks. And and
yes, the sixteen oh seven projectat the Abbeyville Institute is doing the Virginia
first. Love what they're doing inthe first video that they put out with

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that phenom. Kudos to them.But Hackett Fisher starts with the first major
migratory people, the Puritans from EastAnglia in about sixteen twenty to about sixteen
forty something forty five maybe yeah,forty one, So that's important to understand,

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and it is a social history,and he dives into the four groups
the Puritans, the Cavaliers, theQuakers, and the Scotch Irish. But
he takes them and he subdivides theminto about twenty some odd different ways,
everything from speech to marriage, tosexual practices to death, religion, food,

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business with wealth. That one's gonnabe a good one when we talk
about it, to social ways andfreedom ways. There's a whole big list
of them. You can look itup. We will be diving into those
individual sections in future episodes strictly onour patreon. Now sech a shameless plug

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the patriot. But uh, butyeah, that's that's that's the thing that
we're trying to do, is we'reto push push this, you know,
reclaim. We want to be thatvoice wooing the generation back to the faith
of their fathers, and we wantto help help be the be the forefront
leading this great Southern pushback that weare teetering on the verge of. So

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without further ado, we're going todive into dive into the Puritans with with
Hackett Fisher and one thing to understandand again as a reminder, when we
say Yankees in this we are nottalking about geographical We are talking about cultural.
So a quote directly from the book, the immigrants who came to Massachusetts

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and Great Migration became the breeding stockfor America's Yankee population. They multiplied at
a rapid rate, doubling every generationfor two centuries. Their numbers increased to
one hundred thousand by seventeen hundred andto at least one million by eighteen hundred
and six million by nineteen hundred.The more than sixteen million and more than

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sixteen million by nineteen eighty eight alldescendants of the twenty one thousand English immigrants
who came to Massachusetts. In theperiod from sixteen twenty nine to sixteen forty,
the children of the Great Migration movedrapidly beyond the borders of Massachusetts.
They occupied much of southern New England, eastern New Jersey, and northern New
York. In the nineteenth century,their descendants migrated east to Maine and Nova

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Scotia, north to Canada, andwest to the Pacific. Along the way,
they found in the future cities ofBuffalo, Cleveland, Chicago, Saint
Paul, Denver, Seattle, SanFrancisco, and Salt Lake City. Today,
throughout this vast area, most familiesof Yankee decent traced their American beginnings
to an English ancestor who came ashorein Massachusetts Bay within five years of sixteen

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thirty five. And that's we lovethat quote, because he's laying out there.
The fact that Yankee culture came fromMassachusetts, came from the Puritans.
Now, Fisher's study, as wehave mentioned, focuses on the origins and
stability of a social system that's remainsthat has remained steadfastly democratic in its politics,

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and he's talking about the United States. The United States has remained democratic
in its politics, capitalists in itseconomy, and libertarians laws, individualists in
its society, and pleurastic in itsculture over two centuries. This approach offers
a unique perspective to understand the culturalmindset of the Yankee, encompassing a rich,
diverse set of cultural and social values. Fisher breaks down beach pathway as

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we've mentioned in twenty four different sections, but with the Puritans Hacket, Fisher
starts with a historical overview and setsthe stage for these subsequent sections. And
as we mentioned, we'll cover thosetwenty four different pathways into or folk ways
rather in a more in depth episode. So to understand the Puritans, we

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need to go back to what welearned in school, and in school,
at least I learned and Moose,you can tell me if if you were
different at Wayne Academy. But thePuritans were a religious group from England who
wanted to purify the Church of Englandfrom what they saw as a corrupt practice,
from what they saw as corrupt practicesand beliefs. And so they found

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in Massachusetts Bay Colony, and theywere seeking religious freedom and build a society
on their strict religious principles. Andyou know, they emphasized a moral purity
and hard work and education, anduh, they viewed themselves as creating a
city upon a hill that was supposedto serve as a godly example for the

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rest of the world. Real quick, it was something I wanted to add
and almost forgot two things. Iguess. Surprisingly, I had a great
history education, namely because of myfather. He's a great historian, a
great man, and he has donehis best, God bless him to teach

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me history and our culture. Buthe wasn't always my history teacher, even
at the academy. And I rememberdistinctively in elementary and middle school, namely
at the Puritans were always put onthis pedestal kind of like you were talking
about how they were the city onthe hill, the Christians that we should

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all strive to be. They cameover here to spread the good news of
our Lord. And there's nothing moreI take seriously than my religion. I
probably me and Connor have only gotteninto a couple heated discussions. And I
say heated, but more heated thananything else. We don't really get into
a shouting match arguing, but it'swhen it comes to us talking about just

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religion philosophy, and it's something Ilove doing with Connor. But after reading
this, it really opened my eyes. They are not this example on the
heel, but even to this day, they have lost the religion fact.
And we're gonna dive in. Idon't want to jump too far ahead of
GCB, but they still think ofthemselves as this striving example. These better

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than everybody else's people. And youcan trace it back two hundred years to
this, four hundred years to this. For four hundred years, Yankee culture
has thought themselves up here and allthe way at the bottom of the mountain
is the rest of us. Andthey still think that way today. And

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it wasn't until I read this thatI realized the Puritans were not the leading
example. They aren't the major Americanleading example. I was told when I
was in middle school in elementary Yeah, well, and and and and that
is one big thing that that whatI just did in that sarcastic voice is

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a is a very gross oversimplification ofhistorical facts. I mean, did did
they want religious freedom? Yes,they want a religious freedom, but only
if you believe the way they believed. You know. There there's you know,
key points in there about them executingQuakers and stuff like that. But

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we'll dive into into that when wetalk about conformity to their belief system.
But but you know, the onething that's often omitted though, is that
what is the fact that the timeof their great migration was known as the
eleven years of Tyranny in England.Uh. This is when Charles the First
UH dissolved parliament for the first timeand was trying to rule without having parliament.

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And in England there was a greateconomic depression and throughout Europe there was
epidemic diseases that were that were running, you know, rampant. So you
know, were they trying to comeover here and create religious freedom for themselves
but not everybody else unless you believethe way they believed. Uh. But

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at the same time, they weretrying to get come to an area where
they could they could survive better,they could survive better than UH what they
were having back in Europe. Butto understand the Puritans and Yankee culture,
at least at least the Puritans andthen what evolves into Yankee culture, you

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know, we have to understand theirreligious beliefs and and the Puritans were Calvinists,
and I'm not knocking Calvinism whatsoever,but they were there. They took
their Calvinism to a bit to anextra and we'll talk about that in other
episodes, at least with the doctrine, their their version of the doctrine of

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the elect. But Calvinism and nutshellis, they believe in God's absolute sovereignty.
They believe in predestination, and theybelieve in humankinds to over to bravity
and that that continued on with theirbeliefs and we're passed down for generation generation.
But they also believe that they werethe continuation of the Abraham and Covenant

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found in Genesis twelve one through six. And to summarize, and we encourage
everybody to get out of the Bibleand read it Paul's episode if you need
to. But to summarize, Godpromises Abraham or Abram later Abraham that he's
going to take him to a landthat he'll give to him and his descendants.
God promises to make Abraham into agreat nation. God pledges to bless

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Abram and make his name great,that he will be a blessing. God
promises to bless those who bless Abram, and curse those who curse Abram.
And through Abraham, all the famor Abram, all the families of the
earth will be blessed. And andagain that is that is the Abrahamic Old
Old Testament Covenant. Now, ofcourse, you know, looking into it,

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we know that that this is aa promise for the coming of Christ.
You know, and and that thatthat covenant was fulfilled with the New
Covenant of the Lord's severeign christ sacrificeon across. But the the Puritans took
it to believe that it was itwas also meant for them. John Winthrop,

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who was a leading UH Puritan pastorand leader in that first Migration UH,
in his speech a Model of ChristianCharity, he emphasized this covenant by
stating, we are entered into acovenant with Him, him being God for
this work, and that work beingof establishing a new colony UH. We
have taken out a commission for wemust consider that we shall be as a

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city upon the on a hill.The eyes of all people are upon them,
upon us. The Puritans literally believethat they were God's chosen people part
doero. Uh yeah, yeah,uh, But but they were chosen to

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help redeem the world through total obedienceto his will, and God would bless
them if they were faithful to thecovenant, and that they would show the
world how to live. And youknow, the world should follow our example
because we are preordained to live thisexample. And God has promised us that
if we follow this example and bethis great example, that he will bless

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us. And and yeah, itsounds like, you know, they're trying
to create a unitopian society, butyou know, one could almost you know,
argue that it's akin to religious fascismor religious socialism. And we'll talk
about that in later episodes as weactually get into the the wholeness of the

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of the book later on. Butthe idea of the covenant was so prominent
in their lives and relationships. Theysaw that everything was a relationship of contracts
between themselves and with God. Soagain you combine the theologies in a nutshell.

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Puritan saw themselves as preordained by Godto create a new nation in the
new world, the city upon aHill serving as a moral example for the
blessing the rest of the world.But over time, here's the thing that
happened with Puritan and Yankee culture.The Puritan Church begins to shift to the

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Congregational Church, which gave way tothe Unitarian Church. And in about the
nineteen seventies, the Unitarian Church andthe Universalist Church have combined together. And
my thing is is the Universal UnitarianChurch is not a Christian church by the
traditional stance. They denied the divinityof Christ. They don't recognize the Trinity.

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In their religious service, they mayuse something out of whatever the Hindu
text is, or the Quran outof Islam, or the Torah out of
Judaism, or you know, somethingout of Buddha or anything else, because
they believe that everybody has a uniquepath to Heaven. It's just however you
get there, it makes you sleepgood at night. So again the religious

(38:35):
aspect has been taken out of it. But still that that self righteousness idea
of being you know of look atus, we're superior than you, And
that moral superiority is still persistent.We have two examples of that. I'll
dive into them. You have anythingyou want to add though, before I
dive into a news Uh no,I think we're about to get into the

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part where I'm going to though inmy two sands. I mean, it's
just very evident that it's still there. You know, do whatever you feel
like will make you sleep at night, but do it our way. Yeah,
exactly, exactly, And that's abig thing. So so and and
and and that's one thing that wewant to dispel with these two examples.

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It's not necessarily a fully political ideology, but it's it's a cultural thing with
them. And yes, politics hashas a lot to play in it.
But we have an example from fromeach side of the debate, or the
main two sides. So the firstone is is COVID nineteen and the response
of COVID nineteen. So you know, Yankee culture was pushing the masks,

(39:43):
pushing the vaccine, the lockdowns,the all that other stuff that we saw
happening. And and here's here's thething on it. If let's say you
wanted to exercise your individual liberty becauseyour body, your choice, there's a
little sarcasm there for you but youwanted to actually exercise that and not wear

(40:06):
a mask or not uh, notsocial distance or not do whatever you want
to do. It was, well, well, look at you, you're
or you believed in heard immunity.Let's go ahead and get everybody sick.
Yes, some people may die asa result, but you know we'll we'll
eventually get immune out of everything,and you know we'll move on with life,
as we've done with several other diseasesout there. Uh. But oh,

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you're not wearing the mask your masks, so you want children to die.
You don't want us to get betterfrom COVID nineteen, you want old
people to die. You didn't getthe shot. Well, you're you're clearly
ignorant. You're clearly behind the times. You want you want yeah, uh,
you want you want yeah exactly,you want this, you want that

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again, trying to degrade you inyour your belief system, your ideology because
you don't agree with what they say, because you don't agree with with how
they want to come to to theend of a situation. So so morally,
they're making you feel bad because andthey're using the most outrageous arguments on
it, so that you will submitto their will, you will submit to

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their ideology. Uh. From aconservative side, there's one talking pundent,
a couple of them, but there'sone in my mind right now who has
a show on one of the majornews channels, but he also has a
syndicated radio show. But he goesout there and he talks about how Abraham
Lincoln. Uh, that's kind ofan impression of him. So if you

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could figure out who that was fromthat, But Abraham Lincoln was the first
Republican president. He waged the warof the Civil War. His word's not
mine to free the slave. Soyou know, unless you're unless you're a
racist, and unless you're unless you'reyou know, in favor of slavery,
then you know there's no reason tobe a part of the Democratic Party.

(41:57):
Again, his words not mine,uh or me paraphrasing what he has said
multiple times. Uh that you know, Jeff Davis, Robert Elly are the
ones that letter rebellion to try toeradicate this nation. They were all Democrats
unless you're you know, a realfreedom of an American again, using the
moral superiority that the world has equatedwith Lincoln and and his ideology and this

(42:20):
Yankee ideology is continuing to push iton. So it's not just a one
side left right issue, uh,it is. It is a people issue
on how they do that, andand and again it's that it's that smug,
self righteous moral superiority that we seeup there. And again going back
to that quote that we kind ofor that that example we use from the
beginning of the show with Roder withthe Devil. They care about what you

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think and how you think and howyou come to these uh to these ideas.
They don't care how you and theycare how you get there. Southerners
for the most part, Yeah,man, you do your thing, We'll
do our thing. At least atleast that's my point of view. We
haven't read anything about Cavalier Colet,sure, but I'm or Scotch Irish culture.
But you know, the fierce independenceI already know is in there.

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But they they have a collective moraland they want to be the collective moral
right and they can I don't thinkthey can help themselves. I mean,
we're talking about COVID. If youdidn't close your business down and you were
trying to provide for your family,oh you you're trying to kill people.
Uh, if you went to church, you were trying to kill people.

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Please, And let's not neglect thefact that you know, they say all
the time that you know, theseparation of between church and state, but
yet the state is shutting down thechurches. But that's a that's a whole
other issue that I'm not getting inin this episode. But they used COVID
as a way to control everybody's lives. And that is a great example of

(43:52):
the culture there. Well, andand that's a good way to save way
in into the next point. Yeah, yeah with that. But but my
my big thing on it was itwas it was the moral argument. You
know, just do you take takeabortion, you know, Moss, it's
like this, you know, oh, oh, you don't support a woman's

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right she has to carry the child, she has to, she has to
you know, what what if shewas raped and now she has to look
at her rapist face every time shesees that child, Or what if the
child's gonna kill her? You know, and and all these all these god
awful what ifs. To give themselvesthe moral superiority, they have to be
some moral morally superior in their arguments, because without that moral superiority. Then

(44:36):
it's it's it's fascism. Yeah,and they always try to pick it no
matter what argument you take. Ifyou're against them, you are the scum
of humanity. They think that youare just the worst personal live. No
matter what the argument is, they'llfind a way to turn it against you.
Uh, here's one that me andyou've heard a couple of times us

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defending history, trying to protect history. Oh well, you're a racist.
No, no, no, howdid we get on that? No,
we're not. And they keep tryingto make it seem like they're the moral
high ground in that argument, likewiping away in nation's history and culture is

(45:19):
not just an awful thing to do, But they're trying to turn it back
on you, saying, Okay,well you're a racist. You believe that
that was the right thing? Thatit Like all the time they go on
this moral high ground and they can'thelp themselves. And I always hate how
they are like, well, you'rethe scum of humanity and we're about to

(45:40):
get into that more with our nextsection. Yeah, well, well,
and and that's it, you know, And they have to have the moral
high ground because if not the restof their argument falls flat on its face.
And again it's they have to bethat shining city on a hill.

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They have to they have to showthe rest of the world what great people
they are, and and and andnever mind the hypocrisy. And that's the
other thing I think it is,is trying to hide their moral hypocrisy.
You know, Oh, we're we'rewe're so culturally tolerant, and we're so
we're so tolerant of other people.Yeah, really that's the case. Why
did why did you execute Quakers?Why did you? Uh well, we'll

(46:23):
get into that. Uh. Thebig thing, the big thing about them
is the other big thing is conformerelse. And when we've kind of we
we've stepped around the topic. Butthat's the big thing, you know,
we have to conform to their ideologyor else. So quote from the book,

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the builders of the Massachusetts Bay Colonythought of themselves as a twice chosen
people, once by God and againby the General Court of Massachusetts. Massachusetts
chose its colonists with care. Noteveryone was allowed to settle there. This
may have been the only colony thatrequired some of its immigrants to submit letters
of recommendation. Those who did notfit in were banished to other colonies,

(47:06):
were sent back to England. Thiscomplex process of winning wing created a special
population. Uh. Again, theychose people that already had their ideology and
you had to be recommended by somebodyelse to come in there or else lo
and behold, Uh you weren't allowedin. And it's funny how you can

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still kind of see that today.Now you don't have to, you know,
submit a recommendation letter today, butif you go into that circle,
that culture, you're almost asked toprove that you are a part of that
culture. Yeah, well you haveto believe this or else. If you
disagree with them on any topic,well you're you're out. You're you're not

(47:52):
in our culture anymore. Well.Well, and it's it's almost like it's
almost like, you know, there'sa big running joke of I heard this
on on on TikTok the other day. Uh, tell me how you and
you knew when you when you werein the Deep South or you were in
the South. Uh, somebody said, I moved up to Boston for a
couple of years ago, and Ihad to come back home to Louisiana because
my mother got sick. And Uh, driving through Mississippi. I was stopped

(48:15):
at a gas station getting gas andsomebody randomly said hello to me. That's
the first time that some some strangerhas spoken to me. And and that
that's a good point, Uh,is if you were not born into their
culture, if you do not identifywith their culture, then you are automatically
ostracized from that culture. If youhave a twang in your accent, you
are automatically looked down upon from theircultural point of view. And and they

(48:38):
forced conformity because if not, theykicked you out again if you did not
agree with their belief system and andand that's kind of what you were talking
about, at least in the worldof academia. Uh, if you do
not agree with their belief system,if you do not agree with what they
believe and how do they believe inand and how to get there, then
they're going to completely neglect you untilyou either move or you're forced to move.

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Continuing on about their their force conformity. This is actually from another section
of the book, but it's verytelling. Quote. Selectmen and constables of
each town were required by law toinspect families on a regular basis where good
order had broken down within a household, their task was to restore it.

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So again, and that's from theactual family section of the book. We'll
talk about that when we do thatactual episode. But Yankee law, Puritan
law, assigned people assigned big governmentto go around and inspect people on a

(49:44):
regular basis and made sure that youwere still living in quote good order.
And if you were not, ifyou were doing anything different, you were
You're where it broke down within yourhousehold. It was the government's task to
restored. And how they restored itis they either took your kids away and
moved them over to another house,or they kicked you out of the colony.

(50:07):
You know, that reminds me ofthat we see today counsel culture.
They still explore this tactic where ifyou don't do what they want, if
you don't confirm or else, youget canceled. And it's not just I
know, I butchered the ward.I'm dyslexic. Y'all can have all the

(50:30):
fun in the comments. You wantconform form, that's that, missipy draw.
Don't blame me for that. Conformor else you're canceled. And it's
not just in their area. Nowthey take it on a global scale,

(50:51):
and they force people to either apologizeand pay for their sins. I'm using
air quotation marks I keep forgetting thisis audio. But if you don't do
that, well okay, well nowyou can't get a job. Now,
you can't get housing. Now,people in the streets, if they see
you, they might those stuff atyou. These are actual things I've even

(51:13):
seen. And it's interesting that theyhave big government do it today and while
I don't, while you sometimes dosee the government do it today. Now
it's like a whole the whole cultureteams up on you all on social media,
in person, everything, And Ithink it ties perfectly back to this,

(51:35):
that this is how they've always been. Yeah, it is. I
mean, I mean, you thinkabout it. The only difference between the
wide awake mobs of the eighteen sixties, which were the guys that were pushing
for Lincoln's election, and cancel culturenow is the fact that they tweet and
the colors have changed. Instead ofthem wearing red, white and blue patriotic,
they're wearing pink and they're carrying Palestinianflex my point of view, uh

(52:01):
only representing this show. Yeah yeah, yeah, uh, but but it's
the same thing if you don't agreewith with their views or again Palestine conflict.
Uh, you know, if youif you don't agree with with the
fact that you know that what they'resaying and and and things like that,
then oh, you're you're automatically bad. You you oh, you support genocide.

(52:22):
Uh so so you're not you're notconforming. So you know, we're
we're going to we're going to cancelyou. We're gonna move you out.
Uh, we're gonna force you againto move out up, move out of
the calling. Uh. There wasone woman in one of the examples made
a joke. A woman made ajoke, made a joke, and the
people of the town did not appreciatethe joke, and so they kicked her

(52:44):
out of the colony and forced herto move to Connecticut. And you can
still see that today. Yeah,you really, you really can. Some
some things that uh that one onething veryalked about the sixteen o seven Problems
project that the Avil Institute launched thevideo One great project. Yeah. Yeah.

(53:07):
McClanahan stated in in that video thatMassachusetts is a very unique version of
liberty. It's much more communal driven. And and again that's that that's the
thing that the community has is incontrol that you you abide by what the
community wants their point of view.And again, Yankee culture or even the

(53:28):
community culture that you see in Yankeeculture is is prevalent. You know,
there's if you're attacked by one memberof the woke mob, you're attacked by
all members of the woke mob.It doesn't start with one. It's it's
it's you know, it's it's everybody. Another quote from that video. Uh,
the legacy of Christians in the Northeastwas heteroxy and Unitarianism, which came

(53:52):
out of Congregationalism there. I thinkpart of the reason that the South State
Orthodox uh theologically longer is because theydid not have and again this is the
key point. They did not havethe Puritan mindset towards religion and culture trying
to force their views on everybody knowsfrom Zachary Garrison, who's a Presbyterian pastor.
One one thing that I found andkind of you know, sums it

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up is once in control of NewEngland, they sought to break with the
very neck of schisms and vile opinions. So again they they were forcing a
different opinion system Finally, the businessof the first settled settled settlers, as
a Puritan minister recalled in sixteen eightyone, was not toleration. But but

(54:37):
they were professed enemies of it.And and that's the thing. They didn't
tolerate everybody like that, like theylike you know, they they try to
point off and that's the thing thatthat they are trying to whitewash history and
their culture, and they're less thantolerant ideologies by and still inflicting their own

(54:59):
moral uh superiority on there to thisday. Uh, they're still not tolerant
to other people, other people's ideas. And and again, as we've mentioned
with councel culture and everything else,if you're not if you're not for them,
you're again them. That's one thingI can say about about respecting them.
You know where you stand. Andand and when I say respect is

(55:20):
you know, it's about the onlything I respect about their culture is is
you know where they stand when youwhen you're with them, uh, you
know, you're either for them oragainst them. And that's and that's ultimately
what their ideology boils down to,is a moral superior self righteous people that
have to be right on everything,and if you don't believe the way that
they believe, then you deserve tobe uh punished to the extremes, whether

(55:44):
that is uh socially, economically orin the case of what we've seen a
lot of times physically uh with withviolence, you know, inherited against the
South. And they want, asJesus he said, they they don't want
to just see you see you geta just punishment. They want to see

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you overly punished. They're coming aftereverything, and that hasn't changed from sixteen
twenty nine to twenty twenty four.They still want everything you have taken away
from you. A celebrity said somethinga long time ago, and they all
canceled them. But they wanted himto lose his job. They wanted his

(56:27):
wife to leave him, to takecontrol of his kids away from them,
to make sure that he can neverwork again. They wanted to kick this
man out on the street and makethem homeless. Take every plenty he has,
take his wife, and take hiskids. And then even then they
were like and still be a socialdisgrace forever. And I was like,

(56:50):
yoh, well again, and Ihate to continue to bring modern politics into
it. But at the same time, I don't because you know, modern
major world politics that we see isis you know, is is the best
example on how this culture still survives. Look at Donald Trump, you know,

(57:13):
leave your leave your point of viewsabout President Trump where you will and
who you're voting for, you know, at the door. But you look
at what has happened to him,uh as compared to what has happened to
either to even Hunter Biden's son orJoe Biden's son Hunter in the media and
everything like that. It hasn't beenuntil recently, until last Thursday, when

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the horrible debate reaction or reaction tothe debate, that we've seen any any
any type of positive stuff coming forTrump. I mean, and you look
at the American judicial system, thefact that the Department of Justice has gone
after him. They've gone after hisbusiness, they've gone after his livelihood.
They've put threats out against his son, they put thread out, threats out
against his wife, they put threatsout against him, you know, members

(57:55):
of of of the the the Ihate to say the Hollywood elite, so
that's who they are. I'm gonnasay the social lead, but the Hollywood
elite, you know, going throughand holding pictures with a mock up of
his decapitated head, or you know, somebody else saying that John Johnny Depthica
was who said that, you know, I miss actors like John Wilkes Booth

(58:16):
or something like that. You know, all all this other you know,
stuff from from back, you know, just just defiling or vile, vile,
vile stuff. But that's because hedoesn't believe the way that they want
him to believe. He does notbelieve the way that they think a president

(58:37):
should believe. They do, hebucks their system. And because he is
doing that, you know, heneeds to be destroyed and prevented from doing
anything, whether that's private business afteroffice, or whether that's being re elected
to office. They're trying to dothat. They do that, you know.
Uh, they did that with BrettKavanaugh, they did that with with

(58:59):
several others that they don't agree with. And that is the epitome of Yankee
culture and we're going to leave itthere. They are morally superior in their
minds. It's their way or thehighway. It is. Uh. They're
chosen by something. Even though theymay not believe in God, they still

(59:22):
believe that they were chosen to bea shining example of moral superiority, and
if you do not fall in linewith their moral ideas, then you should
be kicked out of society and drivento the ends of the earth. And
that everybody should think that way.And if you thought that way, you

(59:43):
know it'll it'll be Uh. It'slike the arguments for socialism. It hasn't
worked anywhere else else because it hasn'tbeen true socialism. But you know,
if we just gave it a chance, it would work. You know,
that same thing that that everybody shouldget on board and and believe the way
they believe and no individualistic thought,none whatsoever. And it absolutely crazy and

(01:00:08):
sad, honestly. Yeah. Soso that's that is the overview of Puritan
society, the beginnings of that.And there are other examples that we will
that we will dive into in thebook later on. There are examples like
what we mentioned with the fact that, uh, the the woman making the

(01:00:30):
joke, and we'll talk about thejoke in another section, but she made
the joke and they did not appreciateit, so they kicked her out.
Or there's another section that we'll talkabout. There was a guy who was
running his business away and the churchdidn't like it, nor did the colony
like it. So they forced alot of stuff on him. And when

(01:00:51):
they forced it on him, heeither had to conform or they were gonna
kick him out of the colony.And and that's and and that's it.
It all boils down to the thatsmug superiority and have to be morally correct
and if not, if you're notwith us, you're against us. And
I've seen it in action, Andwe'll talk about that a later episode because

(01:01:15):
we're about to wrap up this one. But it's a sad thing. But
I think this is going to bea book that you all enjoy and learn
a lot from. And I'm lookingforward to this series. And do we
have anything set for what we're gonnatalk about the next episode to tell everybody
to read or are we just gonnapost that a bit later. We will

(01:01:36):
post a bit later. Like Isaid, there are a lot of stuff.
There's twenty four different different areas thathe breaks down into. I personally
would like to do the next oneon the family ways, the marriage ways,
and the gender ways, that beingthe structure and function of the household

(01:01:57):
and family, both in ideal andactuality. Uh, the ideas of marriage,
bonds and cultural possessions, apportmanship,court courtship, excuse me, marriage
and divorce, and then the waysthat genders uh acted in society. I
think that that is a good nextsegue and maybe even throw child rearing ways.

(01:02:19):
Go ahead and do all the familystuff in one area and then go
and you know, break it upsome more. Like So I don't think
we need to follow it point bypoint. I mean we can, uh,
but like the speech ways, whichtalks about the Yankee drawl and the
building ways, that goes more intolike where what what part of England they

(01:02:43):
came from? I don't think that'sbeneficial. Uh. I mean it's important
to know, but I don't thinkit's beneficial for us to talk about the
sex ways. I want to doa whole episode on after we talk about
family ways, marriageways, gender ways, and child rearing ways, because yeah,
uh, it really is the thedeath and religion needs to go together,

(01:03:06):
uh and that and honestly, honestly, death and religion kind of need
to go after marriage and then youknow the rest of it. We can
just kind of mix and mix andmingle. So the big thing is get
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(01:04:11):
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