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July 15, 2025 • 55 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:12):
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Speaker 2 (00:45):
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Speaker 3 (02:29):
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Speaker 1 (02:36):
And she seeing me up? Send the champing man a
light of Fred train rolling bringing truth bombs.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
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Speaker 3 (02:51):
From mood in the Southwest Waterway, out of time.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
That's what week att a time chance, not now.

Speaker 4 (03:21):
And good one day evening to everyone except for Moose.
Oh well that's fair. Yeah, I'm on craigslist. You're on craigslist.
Why before we get kicked off? The views and opinions
expression this broadcast are not necessarily those the sevs GC,
nor any division brigade, cancer other subsuviars, strictly those of

(03:42):
us who are expressing them. And I hope everybody had
a blessed and happy Easter with their families. I know
I did. We didn't have any deviled eggs, but yeah
we didn't feel like taking out a second loan to
be able to get eggs.

Speaker 5 (04:01):
So yeah, just about like that.

Speaker 4 (04:06):
Anyway, Well, it looks like Carl is ready, so let's
bring him on.

Speaker 5 (04:11):
Everybody, Carli Uh, it's the best introduction Harrison can come
up with her.

Speaker 4 (04:21):
Carl kind of like your uh, your acceptance speech a
couple of years ago. Thank you, thank you, Uh. Anyway,
we're so happy to have you on and tonight we
we've got a little bit of Uh it's kind of
a kind of a current events thing that is something
we haven't covered, and uh, I'm gonna I'm gonna talk

(04:45):
about the events and Carl's gonna be able to jump in. Uh.
I gave him a little bit of a heads up
before the show kicked off, and I just said, you know, you'll, you'll,
you'll figure out something to say on this. But it
starts off with a victory out of North Carolina, the
beautiful old North State in Silva North cal I believe

(05:07):
that's in Jackson County, Jacksonville County. Uh, but they had
a monument that that the people called Silva Sam And
let me show you what are our wonderful friends on
the those I wouldn't say wonderful friends. It's what marsh
Robert would have called those people. What they did back

(05:28):
in twenty twenty in all of the hysteria with the
you know, George Floyd stuff, that's the the monument there
in Jackson County. As you can see, this picture was
taken into twenty twenty. The first picture showed how they
affixed the uh these metal pieces of metal all over

(05:48):
I don't know I see my cursor or not, but
all over the all over the monument and the county, yeah,
the county did.

Speaker 6 (05:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (05:58):
Yeah. So that's that's it far away. And then this
is it up close, because you know, they said that
the monument harkened back to the Jim Crow era and
all the normal stuff that they say about our memorials
and monuments in some cases headstone to our Confederate dead.

(06:18):
And you could see here a little bit closer up
how they just put pieces of metal on it and
then screwed those together because it would offend somebody or
hurt somebody's feelings. But in two thousand and one they
decided to put those on top of the Confederate memorial
there in town and completely rebranded it and completely contextualized it.

(06:45):
They turned it from a Confederate monument to a Civil
War memorial.

Speaker 5 (06:51):
They yeah, did they put is that the Latin motto
for the United States at the.

Speaker 4 (06:57):
Bottom eplurs on which Carl, I know, Carl is gonna
want to uh is gonna want to to talk about that.
But uh, recently this month April the eighth, the commissioners there,
UH decided to restore it to its former glory. So
that's what the monument looks like now. Contextualization plaques and

(07:21):
everything like that are off of it. The battle flag
you can see, you know, are heroes of the Confederacy
who the monuments dedicated to. H it's back and funny enough,
a couple of days after this, after the county commissioners
did that the who what are their names?

Speaker 6 (07:41):
Again?

Speaker 4 (07:43):
The American say again, it was something crazy.

Speaker 6 (07:47):
I can't Yeah.

Speaker 4 (07:48):
The Council on American Islamic Relations called the removal of those,
uh of those contextualization plaques, said that it was the
removal of an erasure of historical narratives. According to w

(08:09):
l o S local ABC affiliate out of that area.
But for us, as we know, it is a it
is a huge victory. One that's not been picked up
by the national news, but you know, it's it's something
that we need to talk about. I'm going to bring
this one back up, and what's your thought on the elvis?

Speaker 3 (08:30):
That's nonsome if I'm if I remember correctly, Lincoln is
the one who introduced that or adopted it or something.

Speaker 6 (08:40):
I don't remember. The exact history on it.

Speaker 3 (08:41):
But it's Latin for out of many one, which is, uh,
you know, kind of a nod to this whole idea
of one American nation or one American people, which is
there's never in the history of the United States been
one American people. There's always been, uh know, of difference

(09:01):
uh in cultures, you know, like we've talked about many,
many times. The Puritans that came here were culturally different
from the Scots Irish, who were culturally different from the Cavaliers,
vice versa. So you know, e pluribus union out of
many one is sort of a nationalistic nonsense, but there's

(09:25):
no basis in history why it should even be a motto,
you know, for the for the States. I mean, you know,
it's like I said before, I can point of cultural
differences from one county to another in some areas, you know.
So this this whole idea of one American nation indivisible

(09:48):
a bunch of garbage. I mean, it's it's historically inaccurate.
It's you know, fiction so.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
Well.

Speaker 4 (09:57):
And you know, I've always wondered, you know, with the
out of out of many one, Yeah, is that almost
you know kind of you know, I hate to use
the term communistic. But but could you could could you
say it could be interpreted that way.

Speaker 3 (10:18):
A little bit, well, certainly collectivist, you know, you know,
and and and I would say it in some ways
lends itself to the whole leftist notion of a proposition nation,
you know, which America was not.

Speaker 6 (10:39):
You know, Brian mclaney brings it.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
Up a lot.

Speaker 3 (10:41):
But you see all these politicians on the left and right,
or so called pseudo historians, you know, like Todd Sedule
or whatever his name is. You know, they talk about America,
the idea of America. Well, America was not an idea.
Uh what did what did the founder say? Let experience

(11:03):
be our god?

Speaker 6 (11:04):
Right?

Speaker 3 (11:05):
So it was an experiment for certain uh. And what
I mean by it was an experiment it by federal
by creating a federal federated union and having the power
flow from the people through their states up to the

(11:25):
general government in Washington, d c. And Philadelphia at the
time of the founding. You know, that was that was
a unique thing. It reversed what you typically saw in
in ancient times, which was you know, the the power
rolled downhill from the feudal lord or monarch or whatever.

(11:46):
The case may be. And so that was the great experiment.
But America was not founded on an idea. That's not
you know that that's ideologically based, all right. Ideologues tend
to be separated from fact and truth. That's why the
the political left, not just in this country but throughout history,

(12:08):
they don't create anything. They destroy things. That's all they
do because all they have is ideas, not experience showing
that any of their ideas work.

Speaker 4 (12:18):
Yeah, and I found it kind of ironic that the
Council on American Islamic Relations, who shouldn't have a dog
in this bite to begin with, but you know, uh
that that they're aligned themselves with the left. Well, I
guess it's I guess it's really not, you know, ironic,
but they've aligned themselves with the left, and you know,

(12:38):
you look over what happened in the Middle East as
we began pulling out, and ISIS and other groups began
taking charge in the power vacuum, destroying historical monuments over there.
I think it's I think it's kind of kind of
you know, funny that we're now seeing that that on
the American soul. Of course, we've been saying that for

(12:59):
the past, you know, since since all this cultural wocism
began again that that you know, this is just the
American Taliban.

Speaker 6 (13:07):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (13:08):
And and here they are quite literally, you know, allied
with them on on the fact that a contextualization of
a monument, restoring a monument to its to its uh
original intended purpose has happened.

Speaker 3 (13:23):
Well, contextualization, what they mean by that is ramming their
one sided view of how things should be down the
throats of normal America. You know, that's what they mean.
When they say contextualize, they mean, hey, uh, let's make
it support our agenda.

Speaker 6 (13:42):
That's all that means.

Speaker 3 (13:44):
Uh, even though there's no basis in fact or basis
in history that supports their their narrative.

Speaker 5 (13:52):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (13:52):
That's why they have to use force and destruction.

Speaker 3 (13:55):
Of everything that they don't like to try to bring
it across and try to ram it. It's like, how
much does the Left actually accomplished through legislation.

Speaker 6 (14:06):
Very little.

Speaker 3 (14:07):
They get everything done through corps, through the legal system,
and by controlling the legal system. Because normal America, real
Americans don't buy their narrative. And so that's all they've
got is force and destruction of old traditions and long
standing traditions. Hey, if we don't like it, let's tear
it down and replace it with something that fits our ideology.

(14:30):
And again I go back to what I just said.
The left has never named for me, one country, one society,
one civilization in the history of the world that took
on a leftist approach to its a government, to its
government and progressed in terms of liberty or freedom. I

(14:51):
can't think of a single one.

Speaker 4 (14:53):
Yeah, really really can't, because that was one of the defining,
defining things against the cultures that became the Southern culture,
the cavaliers and the borderers. You know, that was their
big difference between the Puritans. That was their idea of liberty.

Speaker 3 (15:11):
I see Dennis in the Commerce comments, he just summed
up the whole body administration. Actually know, I just summed
up the entire United States government. Yeah true, with a
handful of very few exceptions. But we can't can't put
all us on the left. What did the Republican Party
do in Mississippi?

Speaker 6 (15:30):
Yeah true? Uh huh yeah yeah.

Speaker 4 (15:32):
And and and what we're seeing all across the South.
You know what the Republican Party is doing, which with
the Republican Party has and always will be the same
party of Lincoln.

Speaker 3 (15:43):
Well and and as Sam Francis referred to both parties,
you have the evil Party and the stupid Party.

Speaker 4 (15:49):
Yeah, that's one thing why I hate UH. I no
longer identify as a conservative because I don't want to
conserve what we have right now as as our nationals
or any type of standard that we're at.

Speaker 3 (16:03):
Well, conservative doesn't mean anything now. I mean, you got
people out there that would call neo conservative conservative.

Speaker 6 (16:12):
They're not.

Speaker 3 (16:13):
They call West Coastraucians conservative, East Coastralscians concerned.

Speaker 6 (16:17):
None of those ninety nine.

Speaker 3 (16:19):
Percent of what we call conservative today has absolutely no
philosophical relation to traditional conservatism that springs out of the
agrarian and Jeffersonian philosophy.

Speaker 4 (16:35):
True, speaking of different philosophies, I think you're really going
to get on a soapbox with this one. But kind
of segueing to the broader topic, I'll see if they
can pull it up on the you do, Hearson, Can
you bring up my other screen. Yes, I'm having as

(17:00):
open between them. Let me know when you get it up.
It's up, okay, thank you.

Speaker 3 (17:03):
So.

Speaker 4 (17:05):
Back on March twenty eighth, President Trump signed an executive
order that he entitled the Restoring Truth Insanity to America
or twenty seventh excuse me, truth in Sanity to the
American History. Pretty much y'all can read it over. But
over the past decades, Americans have witnessed a concentrated, widespread

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effort to rewrite our nation's history, replacing objectives facts with
a disordered narrative driven by ideology rather than truth. The
revisionist movement seeks to undermine the remarkable achievements of the
United States by casting its founding principles and historical mindstones
in a negative light, and it continues to go on
from there. In summary, though he kind of it orders

(17:51):
the Department of the Interior, which we can get into that,
but orders them to check any federal lands to and
restore any monuments that may have been removed or to
textualized since twenty twenty. You know, roughly over since twenty twenty,

(18:13):
roughly two hundred Confederate symbols have been removed, but most
of them are on state and local land, not federal land.
Even only brings a few statues back or at least
remove some contextualization plaques. That is a huge victory for Dixie.
The order also calls out the Smithsonian Institute, which was

(18:36):
Jefferson Davis had a huge hand in creating for pushing
a quote race centered ideology. Uh, speaking to Southerners tired
of seeing our ancestors vilified, Like sorry, no note glitch
there for me. But it is a victory for truth,

(18:59):
for for us, and it's it's really uh, it's really great.
So you know, and and Carl feel free to to
jump in and interrupt. But we were talking before the
show about how this is all well and good, but
you know, it really doesn't I mean, it does something
for the next four years, but you know, it doesn't

(19:20):
protect anything further than that.

Speaker 3 (19:22):
Right, Well, you saw what happened when when the previous
president took office in twenty twenty one, what did you do?
He went through and wiped out all Trump's executive orders?
All right, Uh, you know, executive government was never how

(19:43):
the the constitution And I look understand where I'm coming from.

Speaker 6 (19:47):
I applaud this decision by Trump hundred percent. Applauded. Great.

Speaker 3 (19:53):
The problem is that it has a very strong potential
to not be permanent if if it is a allowed
to stand merely on executive orders. All right, it's got
to go through Congress. Congress has got to pass these,
you know, some of these things in order to be

(20:13):
able to make them permanent. Or you know, potentially if
you had a state convention, convention of states that that
went in and amended the constitution. You know, but who
knows what, you know, what that would produce.

Speaker 6 (20:30):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (20:31):
I mean, it might be good, might be bad. I'm
not I wouldn't be real optimistic about it. But you know, eventually,
Congress has got to create actual legislation that a mere
executive order cannot overturn for any of this stuff to
be permanent.

Speaker 6 (20:45):
Will they.

Speaker 3 (20:45):
I've got my doubts. I mean, unfortunately, we're at the
point in America, and this is the fruits of Lincoln's
victory where the government is really not run by the
legislative branch anymore. It's run by a nameless, face less
administrative government. You know, it's run through regulatory agencies that
change every four to eight years, who their heads are,

(21:08):
and they and they're making law quote unquote law that
you know that that affects the entire country, and we
have no recourse against it unless by some miracle we
go to the Supreme Court, and by an even greater miracle, miracle,
the Supreme Court actually gets it right, which is rare,

(21:29):
or it takes fifty years, you know. So you know,
I pluy what Trump has done here hands down, one
hundred percent. But we need to understand that in all
likelihood is probably a temporary measure.

Speaker 4 (21:43):
Yeah, and and honesty. And it's like NPR wrote in
one of their articles that I read during research, of
the of the two hundred monuments that have gone down,
a vast majority of them fall under lake excuse me,
local and state if you find it, that's lake, but
on state jurisdiction. Which is why we need to be

(22:03):
out in our communities, out there promoting our cause and
and getting people on board like we've we've screamed to
tour blue in the face on this program and getting
involved in in our local decisions. I mean, because essentially
we see that yes, and that's what we started with
the the Silva Monument out of North Carolina, that that yeah,

(22:27):
this happened right on the heels of President Trump's executive order,
you know, days afterwards, which is which is again great
that it happened, but it should have never have even
gone that way to begin with, We should have we
should have been there boots on the ground in that
community and not say not saying that that, you know,

(22:47):
the local camp or the or the division there wasn't,
but we should have been in place to begin with.

Speaker 3 (22:55):
Yeah, well, eventually, you know, and I see signs of
this happening, which, frankly, I'm stunned, honestly at some of
the things that I'm seeing going on, some of the
conversations that have at least emerged to some level, even
from the left. You know, my journey into where I

(23:16):
am today because I grew up a nationalist, you know,
Republican party all the way like most of us did.
And you know, whatever the Republican candidate said, oh that
was gold. And then, you know, somewhere along the lines
in the late nineteen nineties, I began studying and getting
more interested in the founding fathers and what they believed.

(23:39):
And you know what I realized when I started studying
the debates and all that formed the Constitution and what
the states ratified, state ratification debates and such as that
when I realized was something had gone drastically wrong somewhere.
I wasn't sure what it was or how it happened,

(24:01):
how it materialized until two thousand and two when Tom
de Lorenzo's book about Lincoln came out, and that was
the big light bulb. That was the greatest light bulb
moment probably in my entire life. I realized that that
was where America had gone off the rails. And what
I'm getting at is to me, in the early late nineties,

(24:23):
early two thousands, when I discovered the concept of state
interposition and mullification and state sovereignty in the Tenth Amendment
and all these things, it just made so much sense
to me what the framers and ratifiers of the Constitution intended,
and that was to give a handful of very distinct,

(24:47):
enumerated powers, very specific enumerated powers to a general government,
not a central government, not a national government, but not
even really a federal government, but a general government, and
then reserve all other powers unto themselves. And the states,

(25:07):
as the creators were, you know, did not create a
creation that was more powerful than themselves. So, you know,
I think we've gotten it backwards for a long long time,
that all we think about is national politics and who
the next president is going to we essentially, you know,
Alexander Hamilton said it. Hamilton said it in the Philadelphia Convention.

(25:28):
You may as well go ahead and create a king,
because you're going to get one anyway.

Speaker 1 (25:32):
And we have.

Speaker 6 (25:34):
We've we've got an elected monarch.

Speaker 3 (25:36):
And that's all we pay attention to when we should
be paying attention to our county commission, our our city council,
our sheriff, our state legislature and those things I saw.
You know, Ron Kennedy said we can win in the
court of a public opinion. That's even more so right
at home. You know, where do you have more influence

(26:00):
in uh, you know, in your hometown in Mississippi or
in Washington, d C. Where you've got a five hundred
and forty five man behemoth that doesn't even know you
exist until it's.

Speaker 6 (26:12):
Time for you to collect your taxes. Uh.

Speaker 3 (26:14):
So, yeah, we've got to be more local. And that's
something you know, some of us have been preaching to
the camps a long time. You know, if you want
to uh, if you want to save heritage, start in
your local community.

Speaker 6 (26:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (26:28):
And this this I mean and right now, this should
be a shot in the arm for us. I mean,
the fact that that we are seeing something on the
federal level. I mean, it's it's like we've discussed. I mean,
it's it's a little late for for someplace.

Speaker 3 (26:42):
What I was alluding to, and I kind of went
off down a rabbit hole, is that I can remember
back in the early two thousands, I worked in an
office full of very conservative people. There were no left
wingers in that company. Had a couple of moderates, but
for the most part, it was very conservative people. When

(27:03):
I start coming in to work and we'd go to
lunch and getting these conversations about nullification and state sovereignty,
these people thought I was absolutely out.

Speaker 6 (27:12):
Of my fricking mind. They thought you're a nut.

Speaker 3 (27:16):
I could not get anybody to comprehend where I was
coming from with the idea of reserve powers per the
tenth of the moment until two thousand and four when I
joined the SCV, and then there were a few like
minds in this organization, but by and large it was
that was a very much on the fringe in terms
of thought and philosophy.

Speaker 6 (27:36):
Well, now guess what I'm hearing it more?

Speaker 4 (27:41):
Well, yeah, well, I mean you heard every time they
began talking about the next round of deportations. You know how,
at least that's where I hear. You know, the state's
I can abide by federal mandate. This this other state's
not can abide by federal mandate. That's at least where
I'm hearing it more and more.

Speaker 5 (27:59):
It's funny how you only hear it when a state
doesn't like who's in power.

Speaker 6 (28:05):
Well, you want to hear.

Speaker 3 (28:06):
This may be a little long winded, but I can
give you all an anecdote. Actually, and and for the record,
don't throw tomatoes at me. Immigration is not a federal issue.
There is no mention of immigration in the US Constitution.
Naturalization is in the federal constitution. Immigration is a state issue.

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But I'll give you a kind of an ironic anecdote
true story. A fellow by the name of Alvis was
five years old and in the nineteen thirties, during the
dust Bowl, he and his family packed everything they owned
into a station wagon and they set out to go

(28:51):
out west to California to find work in the oil
fields in an agricultural arena.

Speaker 6 (28:59):
They love that.

Speaker 3 (29:00):
They were so poor that they had one toothbrush, but
for five people the whole family, they shared one toothbrush.
The car broke down eighty miles out of town. Somehow,
somehow they were able to get it fixed, and they
traveled on and they finally they made it as far
as Phoenix, Arizona, before they stopped, and they wound up

(29:25):
settling there. Alice, who by the way, is known through
the world as buck Owens because that was his nickname,
made to California finally in the late nineteen fifties, but
his family never made it. He grew up in Phoenix, Arizona,
and the reason was when they got y'all all love this.

(29:45):
When they got to Phoenix, the news was through the grapevine,
the news and all that was reporting that the state
of California had armed police officers LAPD and California Highway
from truck role at every entrance to the state because
they did not want Texans, Oklahomas and Arkansas coming into

(30:09):
their state and watering down or in other words, interfering
with their culture.

Speaker 4 (30:15):
Can we do that in Missish.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
Today California will let anybody from anywhere come in, But
in nineteen thirty three they would not let buck Owens in.

Speaker 4 (30:30):
Well, between that and the fact that there's historical precedent
for it, and with Bron's idea of a Yankee tax,
I think I think we just solved ninety percent of
Dixie's problems. A Yankee tax would be phenomenal.

Speaker 3 (30:45):
Well, I've had an idea that if I ever ran
for office in Alabama, I was going to propose legislation
that you had to live here, if you came from
north of the Mason Dixon line, you had to live
here from a minimum of one hundred and twenty five
years before you're allowed to vote.

Speaker 4 (31:05):
Well, hey, would I would vote along with you, Carl. Yeah,
that that well, from my views of opinions. Oh, here,
there's a certain group that would keep those one hundred
and twenty five year olds voting.

Speaker 6 (31:23):
Here's Oh you're right. Yeah. But here's an interesting thing though,
What did California prove to us by keeping out from
the dust bow.

Speaker 3 (31:35):
Yeah, we don't even have to let other people from
other states come into our states because immigration is a
state issue.

Speaker 4 (31:47):
But yeah, that that's what that was. Yeah, that's what
I was getting that. So back on the back on
the executive order, how do you think this is going
to affect the stuff with Arlington because it doesn't do
anything with the Department of Defense, just the Department of
the Interior. I think it's going to have any lasting
implication on that or any type of implication.

Speaker 6 (32:08):
On that, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (32:11):
I mean I wish I could, you know, prognosticate, you know,
on that, But I mean, I just I really don't
have any idea. I know there's a lot of us
we have hopes that that the Arlington Monument will be restored,
and maybe it will, but you know, in my opinion,
it's kind of like, you know, throw some feathers up

(32:32):
in the air and see which way the wind blows.
Who knows whether that's going to happen or not.

Speaker 4 (32:38):
Yeah, But what I was getting at is that is
that we we should even though this is happening on
the national level. I remember I was originally going, I
just was scrolling through my talk points, even though that
this this this executive order is on the national level,
and it's not gonna it's not going to be a
sweeping fix for everything. It doesn't affect your local county.
If your county monument has been memorial husband, move, relocated, recontextualized,

(33:02):
or something like that, it's I can affect it, but
it should be a shot in your arm saying that.
Yet we've got support on high branded you know, for
what good it does. Now's the time to use that
to bolster your your local arm, so to speak. Is
what I was getting at, which it should have been
strong to begin with.

Speaker 3 (33:21):
But I see past see I see Paul Gramling saying
that would leave him out. It actually wouldn't because your
your roots are from the South. I'm not talking about
somebody that you know, your mom and dad moved to
Ohio and then you had had you know, happened to
be born there. I would omit myself, and I was
born in California on a Marine Corps base when my

(33:43):
dad came home from Vietnam. But I'm Alabama and my
family's been in Alabama since eighteen thirty four, So I
could rewrite the legislation to account for that. It's people
moving in here who grew up in a Yankee culture,
you know, a cultural Yankee family. That's the problem. And
honestly that that is an issue. Okay, that is I mean,

(34:06):
I know I'm joking around a little bit, but that
is an issue in multiple instances where we've had I'll
give you four instance there's a local high school in
North Alabama that since the nineteen forties or fifties, every
time their high school football team scored a touchdown, the

(34:27):
band played Dixie. That's been going on for years, for generations. Well,
a couple of years ago, a few years ago, the
superintendent said, yeah, we're not going to do that anymore.
He banned it. Some of our guys got to looking
into it. Take a while, guess where that superintendent was?

Speaker 6 (34:44):
From Connecticut, Kansas.

Speaker 3 (34:48):
Oh, We've had a multitude of instances where monuments have
come down or things like that have occurred where you
had city council members that were not even from the
state that they were, you know, holding office in and

(35:09):
so yeah, that's that's happened. Uh And and it continues
to happen, you know. And it's like I mentioned to
you the other day, Connor Rollins Lounge from South Carolina.
You know he he was, he said, he brought up
in the South Carolina Ratify ratifying convention. You know, he

(35:31):
alluded to He didn't come quite right out say it,
but it's pretty heavily implied that.

Speaker 6 (35:39):
You know, the the Yankee.

Speaker 3 (35:40):
Culture, it is in their DNA to dominate and control
everything that they you know, that they get their hands on.
That's why you've got senators and House of House representative
members uh from places like Virginia that were born in
you know, Indiana, Illinois, Minnesota, somewhere, like I think Tim

(36:03):
Kine or whatever his name is from Minnesota, but he's
a senator from from Virginia. All right, how are they
representing my value as one of a totally different culture
than I put on? So so, yeah, immigration is an
issue on more than one front.

Speaker 4 (36:18):
Yeah, yeah, it is.

Speaker 5 (36:22):
What I'm just going to keep this here for this episode.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
Just keep that there.

Speaker 5 (36:31):
Let's just go where the conversation takes us. My favorite thing,
and this is fictional, but a couple of my friends
that I would describe as a I'm a Jeffersonian conservative,
trying to make them more about states rights. And we're

(36:53):
watching the show and the guy in the show's like,
I want a tax, a thirty percent tax some people
who weren't born here. That's how we'll get all these
people out. And a couple of them started saying, I
think that'd be a good idea, and I was like,
I couldn't agree more. Let's get all the Yankees out.

Speaker 6 (37:17):
I mean, and look and look.

Speaker 3 (37:18):
I want to clarify, you know, Yankee is not a
geographical term. There's some good people that moved down here.
I mean, my grandmother was from Oudams County, Ohio. She
called herself a Yankee, And when I got studying this year,
I was like, you're actually not a Yankee, You're a
northern difference. And when you look back in her family tree, well,

(37:39):
one of the things that stood out to me was
was my grandmother she cooked fried chicken and corn bread
and collar greens. And I remember her telling me her
mom always talked about how much my grandmother loved greens.
She said she'd eat grass if I cook it for Well,
I was kind of a hint. You know, no Yankees

(38:00):
New Englanders ate, That's not what they ate. They didn't
they eat fried chicken and collar greens and cornbera.

Speaker 4 (38:05):
That was they They boiled crap, boiled.

Speaker 3 (38:08):
Yeah, right, build and mush right, and steale bread. But
but so that was a hint of of of where.
You know, my grandmother had these southern roots. How is
that possible being from southwestern southeastern Ohio. Well, when you
looked into our family tree, guess where those ancestors came from.
They came out of North Carolina and uh, Virginia, So

(38:32):
there there were a lot of Southerners that moved into
places like Ohio, Indiana, Illinois.

Speaker 6 (38:39):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (38:39):
These were the southerns you know, they came up. These
are the southern backcountry folks that came in and civilized
the state, made it safe. And then the Yankees moved
in there and congregated in big cities like Cleveland and
Chicago and places like that. But they came in after
the Southerners had made it safe for them to do so.
So in places like the Midwest, that's why on the

(39:02):
red state blue state map you see a lot of
red in Middlewestern states. That's going to be your Southern
influence in terms of population that moved into those areas.

Speaker 6 (39:14):
And some of them, you know, they.

Speaker 3 (39:16):
Moved down here and they don't want to come down
here and change things. They moved in here. They moved
here because they like it. They I mean, I've met
several of these people that they want they like the.

Speaker 6 (39:28):
Weather down here.

Speaker 3 (39:29):
But they also I had one of them told me
he said, you know, I moved down here Michigan, and
there's a lot of cultural similarities between Southerners and a
lot of people from back to back country Michigan even
to this day as well. But he said, you know,
I moved down here. He said, you know, the biggest
difference that I've noticed between people in the South and
people up north is how in touch with your history

(39:52):
you are? He said, you guys revere your history up
down here, he said, up there, we didn't ever talk
about history.

Speaker 4 (40:02):
Well, it's just like at the Alabama conference a couple
of weekends ago, I mentioned the difference between you know,
we're talking about the geographical and cultural differences of my
roommate from Michigan talking about Michigan how he is. He's
like you just described your grandmother. He's he's a Northerner,
but he's not a Yankee. But I've got a second

(40:24):
cousin that I call Uncle Betty, who is a you know,
by by culture, she has chosen to be a Yankee.

Speaker 3 (40:33):
Yeah, well that a lot of times you see it.
You know, that's the I think, uh, the Yankee influence
in our education system and in the news media, and
and and the entertainment industry. But you know, you take
a kid that say that was not raised in a

(40:56):
family that had any grounding in terms of history or
didn't pay much attention to politics, and so this kid's
just sort of indifferent to all of it. And then
you stick him in or her into a left wing
run academy like a university, and that's real, that's right

(41:18):
fertile ground for that ideology to be stuck into their minds.
Or you get somebody that that maybe for whatever reason,
maybe it's genetic, DNA whatever, I don't know, but they
tend to or or prefer to think with their emotions
rather than with their brain. And you can sway those

(41:40):
people any which way because they don't have any core beliefs.
You know, it's all about what feels good. Oh, this
makes me feel so good that I started this government
program that is going to create dependency. You know, they're
not going to see the after effects of the long
term effects of anything. It's just what makes me feel

(42:01):
good in the moment. That pretty much sums up how uh,
liberal culture, which stems from Puritan culture, Yankee culture, that's
how they do things, and that's why we're not compatible and.

Speaker 4 (42:19):
Right yeah, hm, I don't know if we want to
open this can of worms or not.

Speaker 6 (42:30):
Let's do it.

Speaker 4 (42:32):
Let's just go after it. We can talk on it. No, no,
I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna open this can of
worms on them tonight.

Speaker 5 (42:41):
Is it because we only got twenty minutes left for
an hour long conversation.

Speaker 4 (42:46):
Yeah, well, well Carl could probably right wrap up how
he feels about the new tariff policies pretty easily. Go ahead, Carl,
what do you think about the tariff policy?

Speaker 3 (43:00):
You know, I'm in waiting sea mode. I think I
understand what the President is trying to do. I think
he's he's trying to use it as a weapon slash
inspiration to try to get other other countries to bring
their terrace down, uh, so that we can sell more

(43:20):
goods overseas.

Speaker 1 (43:22):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (43:22):
If it works, it will be uh, you know, a
great thing. But like Thomas Soul said, I think that
if it if it if it's got to be a
temporary measure aimed at that purpose. If it's permanent, it's
probably going to do more damage than it would good,
you know. So, and I agree with toat of Soul
on that. But like I said, I'm in wait in

(43:44):
sea mode. I try not to, you know, I try
not to jump out there and and and just slam
everything's Trump's doing. Uh, you know, even though you know,
I am way to the right of philosophically of pretty
much any president that we've had since Grover and and

(44:09):
by by the right, I don't mean unnecessarily on social
issues and things of that nature. I mean in terms
of the role of government. What is the role of government?

Speaker 6 (44:18):
You know?

Speaker 3 (44:20):
But I you know, I don't know if this will
work as as a general rule. I'm not a fan
of any type of protectionism, you know. Uh, Tariffs that
that protect one segment of the economy generally tend to
damage other sectors of the economy. The fact that these
are on foreign countries, you know, yeah, it's going to

(44:41):
have that effect probably across the board. But let's see
what happens if, if, if, if other countries jump on board,
and I think some will some want, you know, and
as long as they're temporary, and for that purpose, I'm
willing to give Trump the benefit of the doubt. If
the economy is tanking a year from now and none

(45:03):
of these foreign tariffs against our products have been repealed,
all right, I'm not gonna be quite as generous about it.

Speaker 6 (45:09):
At that time.

Speaker 4 (45:11):
Yeah, I just you know, I've been trying to do
research on it between you know, because yeah, we we
know just as you know, we've talked about it, the
economic impact of the time, you know, in the Antebellum
period and the tariffs that were passed there for northern industry.
You know, I was just, you know, I'm trying to

(45:33):
do research on how those how how it lines up. Granted,
I know that we're not in the same society we work,
you know, in the eighteen forties, and you know, I'm
just wondering how it's going to affect this, you know,
the South that we're living in now. And and like
you said, it's TBD. But I was just trying to.

Speaker 6 (45:51):
Get between all of the regulatory agencies and between you know,
with THEI currency and a declining dollar value and all
the other crap that government has piled on top of
and on top of you know that for the last
one hundred and sixty years. You know, we may be

(46:14):
in a situation where we have no choice but protectionism
because it's the only thing keeping us from having a
complete collapse. You know, I mean, I don't think the
average person realizes the depths I mean, I don't even
realize it. I mean, I'm not an economist. I don't,
you know, I just you know, kind of dabbling a

(46:37):
little bit. I have a basic comprehension of how economics works.
But but I don't think that the average American has
any concept, any conception, any concept, or any idea. How
deeply into the hole we are. And it's uh, yeah,

(46:57):
there's been There have been two ages of American government.
There was the Jeffersonian Age, which lasted from seventeen seventy
six seventeen eighty seven, you could say, up until eighteen sixty.
And in eighteen sixty and sixty one the Lincoln Age began,
and we started down the path of the last final

(47:20):
years of Rome at that and you know, into Jefferson.
We have never come out of the Jefferson I mean,
out of the Lincolnian era.

Speaker 3 (47:29):
What did Lincoln? What did Lincoln's victory bring to us?
It brought It brought the progressive movement. You know, Lincoln
wasn't progressive, he was a leftist. It brought us an
entire century of unending war to prop up the military
industrial complex. It brought to us legalized monopolies created through

(47:51):
regulatory fiat by regular by unconstitutional regulatory agencies that have
no authority to even exist under the federal Constitution.

Speaker 4 (48:00):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (48:00):
It brought to us one size fits all education, one
size fits all government, government control of information, of education,
of monetary value. It brought us the Sixteenth Amendment direct
taxation on the fruits of your label labor.

Speaker 6 (48:18):
I don't call it taxes.

Speaker 3 (48:21):
I call it asset confiscation. That's what it is. It
brought us central banking again after we had two failed
experiments early in that in the you know, in the
in the History of the Republic. Basically, it's been a
complete destruction of the idea that the Framers gave to us,
which was a new experiment. Like I said earlier, in

(48:44):
the history of the world, it would have been beautiful
if we could have kept that Jeffersonian tradition. But what
does the left do. They destroy things, and that's what
they've done.

Speaker 5 (48:54):
Yeah, very good at it too.

Speaker 4 (49:02):
Well, one final question.

Speaker 3 (49:04):
All they know just like putting up plaques around the
monument to contextualize it.

Speaker 6 (49:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (49:09):
In other words, hey, let's destroy it. Yeah, yeah, we're
not gonna let us destroy it, So let's do a
work around and destroy it that way, you know, that's
all they know? What you know, what granted monuments have
they put up? And when they do put up a monument,
it's usually some massive eyes sore that that has a

(49:29):
narrative that makes absolutely no sense to anybody who's not
freaking in.

Speaker 4 (49:35):
Right, at least in recent history. I do know that
there's a monument. Weirdly enough, they put up a monument
to George Washington and New York City and that's to
a Virginian.

Speaker 1 (49:47):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (49:48):
I mean, but anyway, final question for you, Carl, to
lose your carl. No, I'm here, Okay, he's just been money.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
Still.

Speaker 4 (50:02):
Who's that in your background? You can't see him?

Speaker 3 (50:05):
That is a private William G. Smith from Cuthbert Randolph County, Georgia.
He was he served in uh Company H. Randolph's Rangers
of the fifty first Georgia Infantry and uh he is
my third great grandfather on my mother's side. He is

(50:26):
one of ten second and third great grandfathers of mine
that served in the Confederate Army.

Speaker 4 (50:34):
Uh. Paul gram Lee wants to know will you be
in Montgomery Saturday.

Speaker 6 (50:40):
I will not. I've got something going on this Saturday,
and I can't remember what it is.

Speaker 4 (50:48):
I won't be there either.

Speaker 6 (50:50):
I won't be there.

Speaker 5 (50:50):
Yeah, I'll be there in spirit. A moose will be
watching over y'all in Montgomery.

Speaker 4 (51:00):
There's a song in there somewhere look into the sky.
There's a moose. And now it's true. Anyway, we appreciate
everybody who tuned in for this evening UH, this kind
of little UH PROMPTU episode. I hope you all enjoyed it.
UH testing out some some new format ideas like UH
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(51:23):
sure to like comments, share UH. Tomorrow night. Tuesday night,
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gonna be on Thursday fifty fifty shot.

Speaker 5 (51:37):
Oh yeah, yeah, no there, there's there's a good chance
on Thursday that I'll.

Speaker 6 (51:41):
Be on.

Speaker 4 (51:44):
And then Friday. Uh, David's still watching. He can say
what they're doing in the Douglas South Hall Freeman group,
So y'all look for that. Uh. Paul is almost like.

Speaker 5 (51:57):
And support Carl jones by every time you see him,
bring him spam just every time. Give him cans and
cans of spam.

Speaker 4 (52:10):
Carl, I hope you realize that you're probably gonna get
fifty cans a national reunion. Now that would be.

Speaker 5 (52:14):
Larious, that would be great. Uh, Carl is a Southern treasure.

Speaker 6 (52:23):
Well, thank you, and your check is in the mail aisle.

Speaker 4 (52:30):
Anyway. Uh, next Monday we're gonna be on It's hard
than Home.

Speaker 6 (52:36):
Yeah, that's hearth and.

Speaker 4 (52:37):
Home all right. I don't know if I'll be able
to make its actually Confederate Memorial Day in Mississippi next Monday.
I think I'm going to be out and about Mike.

Speaker 5 (52:47):
We might need to check that that count during check
on it. Well, I'll let y'all know Thursday what the
plan is for Monday.

Speaker 4 (52:54):
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Speaker 5 (53:08):
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and uh, let's see if we can figure out who
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Speaker 4 (53:26):
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Speaker 5 (53:36):
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Speaker 6 (54:01):
Thank you, Carl.

Speaker 4 (54:03):
I've got that.

Speaker 6 (54:03):
I've got to uh work on.

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Us out, help us grow and make better content.

Speaker 4 (54:26):
Yeah, no kidding anyway, Uh well.

Speaker 6 (54:31):
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Speaker 5 (54:32):
Are we doing an after show tonight?

Speaker 4 (54:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (54:35):
Okay, you got time for one? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (54:38):
No, I'm good tonight.

Speaker 4 (54:39):
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