All Politics is Local - Conservative Voice Marcus C. Williams - Search Warrant

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Speaker 1 (00:53):
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radio and Spotify and speaker an i art. Okay, So,

(01:13):
and we're broadcasting from Salt Lake City, Utah, and Hudson Valley,
New York. So anyway, the title of this episode is
All politics is Local. We're trying to try to cover
some of that. Uh, and we're our special guest is
uh Marcus C. Williams, the conservative voice of Western New York.

(01:39):
So our other guest has uh an emergency he's handling. So,
but I want to tell you what we're gonna be
trying to cover. All politics are local. Let's see, uh,
illegal alien crimes and migrants shelters, the Karen Reid case,

(02:04):
calling out local corruption, no Kings fallout. Krasner leaves no
doubt that he's a criminal, a Philadelphia corruption, the Democratic
Socialists of America. I ran if we can have a
time for that and more? Okay, So, who do we

(02:28):
have so far? We've got detective of Jake Jacobs from
Philadelphia Homicide and the Officer Involved Shooting Unit and then
we've got our correspondent from Tennessee, veteran NCI especially in
greg Highlands, who can tell us about the corn they're
grown and the pineapples are growing in Tennessee.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
Right.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
Anyways, victory today, John, say again.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
Tennessee just had a big victory today. The important rule
that you can criminally mutilate minors.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
Oh right, yes, correct, correct? And then uh, we've got
Marcus Williams, the conservative voice of Western New York. Can
you bring him up? Well? Do we have him? Okay? Mark?
Oh that worked, Marcus? How you doing? Marcus is obviously

(03:24):
running for a position, and uh it's the at large
position at the City Council of Rochester. Yep. But that
doesn't mean to say that you're not the conservative voice
of Western New York. You know what I'm saying. So

(03:45):
what I'd like to do is because we've got you know,
Karen read the Karen Reid case. Are you guys familiar
with that? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (03:55):
Yes, no verdict?

Speaker 1 (03:57):
Okay, so because there's no verdict to get to this
like right away, okay, So yeah, anyway, this is a
timeline of the Karen Reid case and the story behind
the high profile Massachusetts murder trial. Anyway, there's a you know,

(04:19):
we're going to be video heavy today, okay, to include
videos of Marcus railing against the city council and it's awesome,
but because there, you know, there's a jury verdict. Watch.

(04:40):
I really want to get to this Karen Reid thing,
so I will cover the other stuff later. But in
any how do we do this here? So this is
a retired canton. This is kind of backwards, but it
gives you united what the hell is going on if
we get a verdict and boom? You know, do you

(05:02):
guys have any ideas? By the way, guilty verdict wise, I.

Speaker 3 (05:09):
Don't think she'll be feul guilty Jake.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
The issues, there's a lot of reasonable doubt here. I mean,
you got experts saying the car didn't hit them. You
got the experts saying, you know, you got people googling
how long does it take to die in the snow?
I mean it's dirty in the morning, you know, destroying
your SIM card after Google search or all, I mean whatever.
I mean, it's just too much there. But the biggest issue,

(05:37):
I think they're going to have it and I don't
know where they getting these damn judges from you know,
there's always been a verdict. She there's always been the
jury charge. I mean it's in every is this the
first criminal case, there's always and then she had the
privilege to learn from the last trial where you had
an issue with that, and she still didn't come up

(05:59):
with anything better. So okay, so we know we never
know about juries. I mean, especially in Philadelphia, you never
know what the jury is going to do.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
Yeah, I think she's going to be found not guilty,
except for the fact that the verdict sheet is all
fucked up. Excuse my French, but it's all screwed up.
Oh and there should become some cops that go to jail. Okay,
So we've got Greg says not guilty, that Jake not guilty, right.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
Yes, not guilty or maybe only because the last thing John,
you know, seems they ask they're asking weird questions. They
are they going to be hung on the last charge
to operate under the influence. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
You can't separate it. You can't.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
You can't separate them.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
It's a disaster. So Marcus, what's your thought.

Speaker 4 (06:46):
I'm gonna go also not guilty. But you know, it's
it's like you said, the judges and the jury.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
You kind of never know, yeah, exactly that judges that
should have recused herself because yes.

Speaker 5 (07:00):
This is what I'm anyway going.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
Yeah, okay, so let's uh, this is kind of backwards.
But what the hell? This is a retired Canton, Massachusetts
cop talking about what the hell is going on?

Speaker 6 (07:17):
You on PD for how many years?

Speaker 7 (07:19):
I was on Canon PD affiliate with camp and on
for thirty plus years going back into the middle.

Speaker 6 (07:25):
Seventies, So you have a unique perspective on that.

Speaker 8 (07:28):
What are your that's over wrong?

Speaker 7 (07:31):
I do all those officers that have investigated this case,
and they all came on the job on my watch.
I was a midnight sogrant at the time, back in
eighty eight and eighty eight on Berkowitz, Raffidi, dv GG
and Pedro, Galagha, Saraff They all came on when I
was a super supervisor. And you know, you go through
an academy, if you if you pass the academy, you

(07:54):
should know how to at least not to investigate a case.
They could have set up a crime scene, They could
have set up a mobile command Senta tell her from
across the street, should have come out as a deputy chief,
certainly the hyest in command on site.

Speaker 9 (08:08):
He should have directed.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
And controlled everybody.

Speaker 7 (08:10):
They should have called in, I think the whole police
department on a total recall and said, you know, we
got a murder, we've got a police officer, we've got
a police officer's house, we've got a big storm coming.
Everybody come in, bring a toothbrush in an overnight bag.

Speaker 9 (08:22):
And we're gonna work this case. We're gonna get every
ring camera to.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
Set up a perimeter. They didn't do anything.

Speaker 7 (08:28):
They went so far from protocol and standard operating procedures
that it had to be intentional.

Speaker 3 (08:33):
I said that with LB cops.

Speaker 7 (08:34):
I've said it with every interviewer talk to and you.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
Just heard it. Okay, so you go, what do he
said was important that people miss. You know, when a
cop gets killed, you know, you don't even need to
be called in. You know, it's like all hands on desks.
I've been off duty a few times where you just
get in your car and you go and you part

(08:59):
of the investigation. The fact that you had to command
the right across the street.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
Yeah, well yeah, hey, anyway, Well let's go through a
couple of these comments quick before we get to the excellent,
because we'll be talking about this. Okay, So uh yes, uh,
Lindy Leu, that's correct, and she'll be on probably next week. John,

(09:26):
we need Christine Lynn Harvey back soon. Drexel is forcing
a booster on my daughter for grad school. Holy shit, Uh,
Lindy leew there's an exemption that one of our previous
guests had. That is awesome. We'll have to pull it
up and show it again. But yeah, we'll have Christy

(09:48):
Lynn Christine Lynn Harvey on again. The other thing is
who thinks the dams put the hit on? The politicians
have voted against the party lines. Okay, and then little bit,
I think we covered this. What are your personal opinions
on whether or not she's actually guilty? Okay, we all

(10:09):
say not guilty, but the verdict slip is fucked up.
Excuse my friend. Okay, So okay, let's do the whole
point to hang on, Okay, hang on a second. Okay,
so you heard from a retired Canton cop. How about this.

Speaker 10 (10:33):
Woman help you during this investigation? Well, no, actually I
don't have that phone anymore. I actually snapped the SIM
card and broke the phone and then put it inside
a trash bag, drove to a military base and put
it in the dumpster. But talk to my friend Jen,
She's more than happy to help. Why did I google
how Long to Die in the cold at two twenty
seven am when he wasn't found until after six am?

Speaker 3 (10:54):
Well?

Speaker 10 (10:54):
No, actually I made that search after six am. It
just was from a two am window. If I made
the search after six and have nothing to hide, why
did I delete the search for my phone?

Speaker 9 (11:03):
I don't know.

Speaker 10 (11:04):
Go talk to our friend Brian Albert. He's the one
who owns the home where we were all hanging out
that night. Weird dog bites. Yeah, of course, go check
out my dog. Wait, we actually re homed him three
months after the death our beloved family pet. Yeah, I'm
the first responder. Why didn't I come out that morning
with all the commotion and a body on my lawn? Well,
I'm just a hard sleeper. Well, no, I don't sleep
deep when I'm butt dialing in the middle of the night.

(11:26):
Talk to our friend, the lead investigator, Proctor. Yeah, I
got Karen's phone. I was going through it for evidence.
Well yeah, while I was looking for evidence, I also
was looking for nude Did I call her or see
you next Tuesday. Well yeah, yep, whack job and also
said that she should take her own life, you know.
Talk to our friend Colin Albert. Yep, I was at
thirty four fair View the night of that party. My knuckles. Well, no,

(11:48):
I wasn't in a fight. I just even though they're
all bloody, I fell on the ice. Talk to my
uncle Brian Albert. He owns the home. He can tell
you everything. Well, yes, I wanted to replace the flooring
in the basement, even though we replaced it three years earlier,
because it just needed to be replaced. Yes, we sold
our home under asking, But no, we have nothing to hide.
Talk to the actual investigators. They'll tell you everything about
that morning. Protecting evidence to make sure that it doesn't

(12:10):
get contaminated. Well, no, we actually used red solo cups
and stopping shotbags to collect the evidence.

Speaker 6 (12:15):
Is that not right?

Speaker 10 (12:16):
Did we go inside of the house where the body
was found on the front lawn.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
No, I.

Speaker 10 (12:23):
Next question. Yes, we did find pieces of tail light,
but not in the morning when we used the leaf
blower to move the snow. And we did find clear
cocktail glass, but no red glass. It was after we
actually brought Karen's car in for evidence. Then we found
the tail like pieces hours later. Snowplow driver didn't see
his body that morning, that's weird. People who left the

(12:43):
party after Karen also didn't see his body. That's bizarre.
None of us had anything to hide.

Speaker 1 (12:49):
Oh okay, so yeah, it just gets worse for him.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
Here.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
Look, you who don't know this case, you know, try
to follow along. We've got a video that explains everybody's name,
but you might want to remember these names anyway. Here
this guy has a good view on everything.

Speaker 11 (13:17):
People are like, why do you think that Karen Reid
trial is at cover up? I don't know, Nancy Drew,
which one of these stories do you think is more believable?
Karen Reid and John o'keefer at the waterfall, happily gushing
about how John's niece just got into a private school,
and then in the five minute drive between the bar
and the mcgalbird's house, they suddenly get in some outrageous fight.
And then minutes after they pull up, other people pull

(13:37):
up and see that Karen is sitting in the car alone,
which apparently means that John was what crouched on the
ground on the side of the car, hiding from the
other people pulling up, and then once they took the
time to walk inside, Karen Reid pulled fifty feet ahead,
backed up eighty four feet in reverse at twenty four
miles an hour, hit John perfectly with a clipping motion
on the back of her tail light, sending John in
a triple double axle pirouette backwards seven feet into the snow,

(13:59):
putting dog on his left har and mysteriously making his
Apple watch look like he just walked eighty six steps
and down three flights of stairs while simultaneously causing lashes
on the front of his face which nobody can explain,
and leaving shards of glass on the back bumper of
the car that got towed and drove for fifty sixty
something miles that didn't match the glass that was supposedly
in his hand. And then Jen McKay butt dialed John's

(14:20):
phone seven times. And then Higgins, after a long day
of work, decided at two thirty in the morning, after
throating whiskey gingers all day, decides he's going to go
back to the police.

Speaker 5 (14:30):
Station at two thirty in the morning to move car.

Speaker 11 (14:32):
And then he's caught on a surveillance camera texting making
phone calls in the parking lot, which he says he
doesn't remember because they were butt dials. And then Higgins
phone butt dialed Brian Albert's phone, and then Brian Albert's
phone butt diald Higgins's phone, never leaving a voicemail on
either one, and then they talked for seventeen seconds, but
they didn't talk because they were both butt dials, so
their butt hung up on both sides of the phone
multiple times because Timu Heisenberg was clapping his wife with

(14:54):
their vicious German shepherd in the room. Oh yeah, but
the German shepherd actually wasn't in the room because it
didn't bark when there was a ton of and a
bunch of police responders and fire trucks and whatnot out
on the street and everybody screaming, including Karen, all caught
on video. But they didn't wake up, and they didn't
hear it, and the dog didn't bark. And then Jim
mccab went into the house to wake them up and
went into their room, just burst into the room of
a thirty year police detective.

Speaker 5 (15:15):
Nothing's scary there.

Speaker 11 (15:16):
At all, and she didn't see the dog because the
dog wasn't in the room and also it didn't bark.
But the dog sleeps in the room every night and
sometimes on the closet.

Speaker 2 (15:23):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 11 (15:23):
And then the train first responder and thirty year police detective,
while his friend supposedly was dead or dying out on
his lawnch just decide did.

Speaker 5 (15:30):
Not come outside or any day.

Speaker 11 (15:31):
Then they sell their family home that's been in the
family for generations, and then they mysteriously get rid of
the dog. And then the day before their phones get subpoena.
Brian Albert throws his in the trash, and then Higgins
takes his to a military base and throws one in
one garbage can and another broken SIM card that he
destroyed and it compstare.

Speaker 5 (15:47):
You know because he her thread.

Speaker 11 (15:49):
And then at two o'clock in the morning, Jim mccab
goes to her house and gets on her phone and
watches it's raining men on YouTube and doesen search hasloan
to die in the cold because some.

Speaker 5 (15:59):
Nerd said that it happened four hours later for no reason,
Because I don't know about you.

Speaker 11 (16:03):
Because when my friend is dead or dying in the
lawn and there's first responders.

Speaker 5 (16:06):
Tending to him.

Speaker 11 (16:06):
I just pulled up a quick Google search to see
how long it would be before he died in the call,
even though he's right in front of me too.

Speaker 5 (16:12):
If you're paying for your cell phone minutes by the call, you.

Speaker 11 (16:14):
Better not go to can because you'll just have all
your friends buck die each other thirty times and one night.
Oh yeah, And did I forget to mention that when
John got hit by the car, supposedly his phone landed
underneath his body, and they brought a guy to testify
that that was the case, and they said, how did
that happen?

Speaker 5 (16:29):
He goes just because it did. Okay, four he went
in the house. Yeah, that's size of it.

Speaker 1 (16:48):
Yeah, all right, Okay, So three of us had been
have been to a choir practices. You know, I think
this is our choir practice, and the second choir practice
went horrifically wrong in my view, but I don't know
for sure.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
Can you explain a choir practice?

Speaker 12 (17:09):
John?

Speaker 1 (17:15):
Did you see a social gathering of law enforcement person? Now,
so let's hang on a second. Oh so Denise uh
says she's not she's voting not guilty to what does
she think about that. Yeah, Lindy, LU definitely will get

(17:39):
that to you. Okay.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
I don't think they can force the vaccine anymore, but
I thought I saw something there, but who knows.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
Yeah, well, remember we had Greg fisher on who passed away,
but he had a serious an excellent exemption that will
cause the university I think twice about doing anything like that. Anyway, Lindy,
I'm not familiar with this case, but the fact they
said a female backed up intoxicated or not and didn't

(18:09):
hit a car or mailbox is 'tenough reason. Yeah, well
you know, uh, we're going to get into that a
little bit more. So. Okay, so if you're not from again,
the jury's out, we're expecting a verdict sometime soon. I
want to get this over with before we got up

(18:30):
with a fucking verdict. So this is a very good
explanation for if you if you don't know shit about
this case. Okay, So here we go.

Speaker 13 (18:43):
Bunch of you asked, So, I made a chart in
a timeline breaking down the Karen Reid case. And because
I'm absolutely terrified of the Massachusetts State Police, this is
for all intents and purposes, allegedly in my opinion and
absolutely not fact, but I'm going to share with you
my theory at the end. This is Officer John O'Keefe,
and this is Karen Reid, his longtime girlfriend, who is
being accused of his murder. He was found around six
o'clock in the morning to cease in the lawn of

(19:05):
this home, somewhere around this.

Speaker 14 (19:06):
Flagpole and fire hydrant. And this is the home of Brian.

Speaker 13 (19:09):
And Nicole Albert. And Brian is also another Boston cop.
The name Albert is gonna need to be familiar with you.
This is how that home looked that night. Because there
was a blizzard in Boston, Massachusetts, the night of John
O'Keefe's death. All of these people were out at multiple
bars throughout the night drinking and celebrating a birthday as
there was a blizzard coming in that night. There's a

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lot more people, but these are the ones I'm gonna
talk to you about. Brian and Nicole Albert are the
homeowners where John O'Keefe was found. Maitln and Colin Albert
are the children of Brian and Nicole. Chris and Julie
Albert are Mary and Chris Albert, and Brian Albert are
brothers Brian Higgins is a cop friend of all of them.
Matt and Jen McCabe are Mary and Jennifer McCabe is

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sisters with Nicole Albert, and Allie mccab is their daughter.
All of these people testified in the first trial of
Karen You're a night full of drinking together all of
these bars. They were all invited back to Brian and
Nicole Albert's house to continue the night. Karen and John
were newer friends to all of these people, except for
John's relationship.

Speaker 14 (20:10):
To some of these guys through the police department.

Speaker 13 (20:12):
All of these people arrived first, and when they got
to the house, Karen says that John went in first
to check everything out before she would come in and
come back and tell you what I really think was
going on inside this house as appropriately as I can
on this app.

Speaker 14 (20:24):
If you get my drift. Karen says that John never
came back outside.

Speaker 13 (20:27):
She got mad that he didn't come back out to
get her and left furious.

Speaker 14 (20:31):
John was raising his.

Speaker 13 (20:32):
Niece and nephew after the passing of his brother and
sister in law, and Karen Reid says that when she
woke up the next morning realized that John never came
home and didn't know if the.

Speaker 14 (20:41):
Children were taken care of. She knew immediately that something
was wrong.

Speaker 13 (20:44):
She called Jen McCabe and a lady named Carrie Roberts,
who were new friends to her, to help her go
look for what happened to John the night before. Because
John and Karen had been on the phone with Jennifer
McCay before they pulled up to thirty four Fairview getting
directions to this house they'd never been before, so Karen, Jennifer,
and Carrie drive back to thirty four Fairview, where they

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find John's body laying in the snow in the front launch.
Jim says that Karen spotted John before they even saw
what was happening and led them directly to John's body,
which was covered in snow from the blizzard the night before.
Jennifer McCabe calls the police. Policemen, fire trucks, ambulances, all
emergency vehicles show up to the scene of thirty four Fairview,

(21:27):
where Jennifer's sister and copp brother in law Brian Albert live.
Can hear in the dash can footage Karen is screaming hysterically.
All these emergency vehicles have their lights on and there
is so much loud commotion happening in this front yard.
But Brian and Nicole Albert never came outside, and this.

Speaker 14 (21:46):
Window right here is their bedroom.

Speaker 13 (21:49):
They also had a German shepherd named Chloe, who was
oddly very quiet that night. Gosh, this video give me
so long, so let me spit fire a lot of
these facts at you. She's accused of killing him by
hitting him with her car because she had a busted
rear tail light and that's it. He had no bruises,
no broken bones, and puncture wounds only to his arm.

(22:09):
Cause of death was blunt forest head trauma.

Speaker 14 (22:11):
Okay, back to the night.

Speaker 13 (22:12):
Jennifer McCabe, finally, at the direction of the police, says
she burst inside the home to wake them up instead
of calling them. They she'll never came outside and she
cannot recall ever seeing their German shepherd.

Speaker 14 (22:25):
Remember he's a cop.

Speaker 13 (22:26):
Brian Higgins and Karen Reid had been sending lots of
flirtatious text messages to each other. Don't sure whether or
not John ever found out, or if that's a factor here.
Karen left this house just after midnight and at two
twenty seven am, Jennifer McCabe's phone googled how long does
it take someone to die in the cold, which she
is saying she googled at six o'clock that morning with

(22:47):
her and Karen went back to the house to look
for John and found him in the yard.

Speaker 14 (22:50):
She was caught on the stand lying so.

Speaker 13 (22:53):
Much it was unbelievable, with one of the worst attitudes
I've ever seen from someone on the stand.

Speaker 14 (22:58):
It was so entertaining.

Speaker 13 (22:59):
Colin Albert had supposedly had beef with John O'Keeffe, who
is the son of Brian Albert, and there were photos
of him after John O'Keefe's death on Facebook with bloody knuckles,
which he didn't know existed and denied. Since all of
this has happened, Brian has retired as being a cop.
They sold their long term family home of multiple decades.
They re holmed their family dog. Brian Albert and Brian

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Higgins got rid and destroyed their phone. Brian Higgins took
his SIM card out of his phone and destroyed it
on a military base and the lead investigator, Michael Proctor
was put in charge of this case. He took the
theory that Karen Reid had done it only an hour into.

Speaker 14 (23:37):
The investigation and ran with it.

Speaker 13 (23:39):
He allowed all of these people to get together and
get all of their stories straight in their own words
before he interviewed some of them in a group setting,
and not all of them ever, And when they were
all given their timelines and statements to the police, they
all needed to be sure they were in the bed
and asleep at a certain time, and they didn't realize
they were putting this together with their phone data, so
every one of them said that they came home and

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basically sprinted to the bed. No one brushed their teeth,
no one showered, because it was the only way to
make their timelines of their stories match up to where
they could all prove they were in bed asleep.

Speaker 6 (24:10):
Took all of.

Speaker 13 (24:10):
Their words for what happened after they got all of
their story strain, and in his words to his group
message to all of his cop buddies, he said that
she was going to catch a lot of heat. And
when one of his buddies asked if anything was going
to happen to the homeowner, he replied, nope, he's a
Boston cop too.

Speaker 14 (24:27):
They used a leaf blower to blow around snow to.

Speaker 13 (24:30):
Look for any evidence, which they never found anything. Red
solo cuffs they borrowed from a neighbor's house that they
put in a stop and shot bag that had spots
of blood in the snow, and they never did anything
with this evidence. Michael Proctor and Trooper Buchanic had access
to Karen Reid's vehicle that only had a cracked tail light. Magically,

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forty two pieces of red plastic were found in the
snow that.

Speaker 14 (24:54):
Were never discovered earlier.

Speaker 13 (24:56):
Mike Proctor, in the group text with all of his
buddies and cop friends, is called going through her phone
looking for inappropriate pictures of her, his words, himself, and
a lot of other things that cannot be said on
this phone.

Speaker 14 (25:08):
A few last random facts.

Speaker 13 (25:09):
There is ring footage of Karen Reid backing into another vehicle,
which they say is what caused the crack in her
tail lights.

Speaker 14 (25:15):
All these people were caught lying about him and her being.

Speaker 13 (25:18):
At this house that night until they were all caught
in a lie based on cell phone data, which they
just claimed they all magically forgot or thought it didn't
matter that they were there. I had no bruises or
broken bones on his body, only punched on his right arms.
Later discovered that these people replaced the flooring in their
basement of this home before it was sold. Ronically, there's
a gate right here on this fence that leads from

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their basement directly to the area.

Speaker 14 (25:43):
He was found right here where they never acknowledged him.

Speaker 13 (25:46):
There's so much more than this, but that's the best
I could do to keep this.

Speaker 14 (25:49):
Video under a few minutes. I need to know your theories.

Speaker 13 (25:52):
My theory is that all of these people were doing
something together in this house that they didn't know about,
and when she found out that he went inside and
may be participating in this, that's when she left and
left him. All the voice messages we heard in court
of her calling him names because of what may or
may not have been happening inside this house.

Speaker 14 (26:10):
She called him fifty two times during the.

Speaker 13 (26:12):
Middle of the night, angry at him for not coming
back out to get hurt. If she's the one who
was responsible for his death, why call his phone fifty
two times leaving voicemails wondering where he is. Some people
have said that if they were responsible for it, why
would they leave him in their front yard and not
take him off somewhere else They were all heavily intoxicated.
I think that something did happen at that house. Potentially

(26:35):
he may have been involved in a physical altercation, or
Brian Higgins who was flirting with Karen Reid and something
happened there and they knew she had left angrily at
him and put him in the place where they last
saw her vehicle in the yard. No matter what, there
is no way that a reasonable jury can find her
guilty beyond reasonable doubt. And the judge in this case,

(26:56):
Judge Beverly Canoni, I have never seen such clear.

Speaker 14 (26:59):
Bio against the defense in my entire life.

Speaker 13 (27:02):
I do not understand how she's going to be able
to continue to pray.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
Excuse me, excuse my French, but what the fuck.

Speaker 5 (27:11):
Listen, I'll tell you what my here's my theory. They
were in their banging, That's what my theory is.

Speaker 4 (27:18):
My theory is that they had some sexual love thing
going on in there, okay, as some people do, and
something happened and it didn't go well, and that's how
we ended up dead.

Speaker 5 (27:31):
That seems like the most likely situation.

Speaker 4 (27:34):
Either that or they're all part of some conspiracy to
have be part of organized crime in the community and
they just as she found out.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
One of the two.

Speaker 5 (27:44):
I'm gonna go with the first one.

Speaker 1 (27:47):
Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
So how I'm talking about room? You know, after something
happens on my front now, yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:55):
Okay, yeah, you're gonna sell your house under market value?

Speaker 3 (28:01):
Right, even with nobody ever, nobody ever actually went in
and took a look at the There was no search
ever done. They didn't go in and do any friends
direct even with your the possibility of removing all the
evidence that you think, splatter always has a way of
appearing somewhere.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
That's why they had to get rid of the floor,
and they was smart enough to do that. But look
at the Chief Senate that night, no one did any investigation.
I mean, that's impossible. You got a dead cop. I'm
telling you, I don't care how small or large the
police department is. It's all hands on deck. And if
it turns out it was a fight amongst cops and

(28:43):
he hit his head and died, then that's what it is. Well, Greg,
you have you have an interesting connection to Higgins. I
don't know if you want to share it.

Speaker 3 (28:52):
Oh, I just I have a bad habit of doing that.
While y'all was talking and things but I just queried
that DJ had present the award. There was a DJ
link that he had got a word for bravery in
twenty thirteen, and that he was presented in Elizabeth Warren's
office in Boston.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
Christ Wow, it's better.

Speaker 2 (29:15):
This.

Speaker 1 (29:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
And here's another thing. Why aren't you investigating it? The
fact that Karen called her him fifty two times? We
all been here just by choir practice. Were your significant
other is pissed off at you? You're gonna answer your phone?
That foot was not going to stop ringing, especially.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
Well she called him fifty three times. Right, let me
ask you this, Why is it according to that woman
that gave us the you know spiel, why did he
have to go in and check it out before she
would go in?

Speaker 2 (29:52):
Right?

Speaker 1 (29:52):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (29:53):
There was like like is there was there some reason
they didn't want her in there, And the way they
made it sound was that she was waiting in the
are and then got upset that she was waiting so
long and he wasn't answering his phone, that she left,
she left that area.

Speaker 1 (30:08):
What a disaster? What a goat.

Speaker 2 (30:12):
Going on?

Speaker 3 (30:12):
In the chair upside down the Pineapple Club upside down?

Speaker 1 (30:19):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, yeah, yeah, anyway. So okay, so we've
got the producers producer, Bill, thank you very much for
watching the Yeah, no verdict from Jerry yet. Oh that's good.

(30:41):
That's good. So okay, So I think, uh, Greg, Jake
and I have both been the recipient of accident reconstruction
uh investigation school and this, uh there there's a I

(31:02):
guess a video company or something called micro dots. That
is awesome. But I know when I took Accident Reconstruction school,
we had books, paper books, and we read them through candlelight.
You know, that's how long ago it was. So but
obviously technology has you know, pushed forward, and I wanted

(31:25):
to just show this. I think it's a reconstruction of
the thing. But the bottom line is, unless she was
driving a Lexus, unless that Lexus can bite somebody like
a dog would bite somebody, she didn't hit him with
the core. Oh so you know we have something that.

Speaker 2 (31:48):
Well, John, before you go, they said the jury knocked
on the door indicating it was a vertict, and then
they knocked on the door again indicating this not avertict.

Speaker 1 (31:57):
Jesus, I'm not surprised. Well, let's go through this first.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
This is.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
A medical examiner.

Speaker 12 (32:09):
Did you look when you were doing a differential diagnosis?
Did you look at any evidence other than physical evidence?
Did you look at any data.

Speaker 15 (32:16):
Evidence, I don't know what you mean, data.

Speaker 12 (32:21):
Like data you would find on a cell phone.

Speaker 14 (32:23):
No.

Speaker 12 (32:25):
Did you look at any of the data evidence from
the defendant's lexus.

Speaker 16 (32:30):
No, other than looking at the contours of the back
to see if it had impacted mister O'Keefe.

Speaker 12 (32:38):
When you were doing differential diagnosis, did you look at
any information that would tell you what the speed of
that impact may have been or allegedly was.

Speaker 15 (32:48):
Well, it didn't hit him, so it doesn't matter.

Speaker 12 (32:53):
Okay, So you didn't care to know anything about the
car or the data in the car because you had
already formed your opinion.

Speaker 15 (33:01):
It did not hit him, so it was not relevant
to my opinion. I could if by looking at the.

Speaker 16 (33:07):
Body, I could tell that there was no evidence of
impact with a vehicle. So whether the vehicle was going
slow or fast is not relevant.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
And so you didn't do it.

Speaker 12 (33:18):
You didn't try to get any information about the speed
of the vehicle. It was totally irrelevant to you. Correct
And did you also disregard Well, let me ask you,
do you ever look at statements.

Speaker 15 (33:35):
I look at witness statements if they're available to me.

Speaker 12 (33:38):
Were any of the defendants and statements made available to you?

Speaker 15 (33:42):
I did hear some of them?

Speaker 12 (33:47):
Did you consider the ones that you heard?

Speaker 5 (33:49):
Of course?

Speaker 1 (33:50):
Which ones did you hear?

Speaker 15 (33:55):
You know, I really can't answer that. I don't know
what you're You'd have to give me an exam poll.

Speaker 12 (34:01):
You had never had a chance to go out to
that scene yourself, did you No?

Speaker 15 (34:04):
I just looked at all the photographs.

Speaker 12 (34:06):
You cannot see what's under the grass and the dirt,
can you?

Speaker 17 (34:11):
Well?

Speaker 15 (34:11):
Dirts under the grass?

Speaker 2 (34:13):
Well?

Speaker 5 (34:18):
I love her?

Speaker 1 (34:20):
Oh man, she has some other good Now.

Speaker 5 (34:23):
Was that the medical examiner?

Speaker 1 (34:26):
Yeah, that's unless there was a dog jaws attached to
the It sounded like access.

Speaker 4 (34:40):
Well, it sounded like they were really trying to make
that glove fit, weren't they.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
Yeah? Exactly. Okay, So, as I mentioned to you, I
think Greg Jake and I have been on uh you know,
I have gone to accident reconstruction school, you know, before
we hit the street, you know, or somebody decided that
we recur to that fucking school. So anyway, this is uh,

(35:08):
this is that microdots thing which is kind of interesting.
I just want to run that because we're going to
get a verdict. Verdict today or not, we're going to
find out, okay, so let's just run this and you know,
enlighten ourselves.

Speaker 18 (35:26):
The timeline indicates that John entered the home, triggering a
violent confrontation that unfolded quickly. The chaos inside delayed duly
for several minutes, long enough for Ryan to text her
saying he was going to leave, prompting them to centerr
outside to get rid of her brother. Within the four
walls of thirty four Fairview Road, they had a full

(35:49):
blown crisis on their hands, one that needed to be
contained fast. It's nearly twelve thirty am. They have a
fatally injured cop laying on the floor, a house full
of people, and two separate parties waiting outside, each expecting
someone to step out or at least inform them.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
That they can leave.

Speaker 18 (36:09):
They immediately took command and no one was coming or
going until this was worked out. And since they didn't
have the idea to blame Karen until morning, when Jen
noticed her tailight was cracked, the only claim they have
is to say that despite being dropped off of right
out front. John never came into the house.

Speaker 1 (36:34):
Say it with me.

Speaker 18 (36:36):
The guy never never came into the house. At twelve
twenty seven, after sending Julie outside, Jen starts using her
phone to build that alibi. But Karen is still out
there and they don't know why.

Speaker 5 (36:55):
As soon as you saw miss reads SUV, he texted John,
is that right correct?

Speaker 4 (37:12):
You notice that says you'd be outside.

Speaker 5 (37:16):
You started paying somewhat close attention to me.

Speaker 18 (37:19):
They are watching her every move anxiously waiting. The lexus
is seen moving forward a second time into the proximity
of the flagpole. They have no clue if Karen's about
to drive off dial nine to one or bang on
their door demanding to speak to John. Julie is outside,

(37:40):
She tells her brother that she will be staying longer,
despite calling him to come pick her up for a
ride home.

Speaker 1 (37:48):
Y'all were actually talking for closer than violence, the whole thing, probably,
She walks back into the house.

Speaker 18 (38:00):
Twelve twenty nine, Jen mckaye makes the first of seven
calls to John's phone over the next twenty one minutes,
although she insists that each of these calls were made
unknowingly and completely accidentally, not a single voicemail was recorded,

(38:20):
implying that she not only inadvertently made the cause, but
she also inadvertently hung up before voicemail was triggered, an
absurd proposition that any rational person must reject on its face.

Speaker 5 (38:33):
You claimed that every one of these calls was a butt.

Speaker 18 (38:35):
That is that right, Yes, definitive evidence that they are
hiding something. The chances of this set of anomalies occurring
at the exact time required to support her alibi are
impossibly low.

Speaker 4 (38:48):
Fourteen interfaces with that phone over the course of nineteen minutes.

Speaker 18 (38:54):
Those calls were later deleted, and she doesn't have an
answer for that either. We are being asked to take ji,
and that's her word, when she has every motive to
shift the blame away from herself and her family. Ryan
Nagel watches Julie entering the side door as they pull away,

(39:24):
And I.

Speaker 1 (39:24):
Was making sure my sister got in the house.

Speaker 18 (39:25):
Okay, providing him the perfect angle to witness Karen Reid
sitting alone in her vehicle waiting for John.

Speaker 4 (39:32):
But you did look inside that as you did as
I passed by, Yes, and you saw one person.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
That's all I saw at the time.

Speaker 6 (39:38):
Yes, female with long hair.

Speaker 18 (39:39):
It's correct, Ryan and friends drive away. Karen is now
alone for the first time since she arrived. The three
of them confirmed that they didn't see John outside the
entire time they were there, nor was he in Karen's
suv entirely consistent with Karen's story of what happened. Karen

(40:04):
leaves between twelve twenty nine and twelve thirty. We know
this because her phone connects to the Wi Fi network
at John's home at twelve thirty six.

Speaker 19 (40:14):
Miss Reed's phone auto connected to John O'Keefe's WiFi at
his house at twelve thirty six am.

Speaker 18 (40:19):
Google Maps confirms the drive time for that route on
that date and time is six to seven minutes, without
factoring in the snowy road conditions that night, which would
have only slowed travel further. That means the latest Karen
Reid could have left thirty four Fairview Road, according to
the data we have, is twelve thirty am.

Speaker 20 (40:41):
Round twelve forty five in the morning, when the vehicle
was in front of the residence on Fairview and for
some perceptible period of time that vehicle travels over sixty
feet in reverse at over twenty acrob twenty four miles pro.

Speaker 18 (40:54):
What kind of charade is this? The lead prosecutor is
standing in front of an unknowing and claiming the defendant
committed murder fifteen minutes after she left the premises shameful
using such flimsy and misleading information to pain in a
crime on an innocent woman.

Speaker 1 (41:14):
Madness, So what do we think?

Speaker 4 (41:19):
It sounds like a setup. It sounds like a setup.
It seems very.

Speaker 2 (41:26):
It's easy. You jink got a big old butt.

Speaker 4 (41:31):
I'd like to know, you know, since the argument is
the calls were basically by mistake, Well, when was the
last time that she called previously?

Speaker 5 (41:41):
You know, because you kind.

Speaker 4 (41:43):
Of have to have it if it's a butt dial
that many times, you kind of have to have it
in your actual recent call log or something. And then
if it's I wonder if it's an iPhone or an Android,
because usually they have actual protection where if you just
gent he raised the screen or whatever by mistake, it'll
say accidental press and it won't work.

Speaker 1 (42:07):
So many supposedly a verdict has been reached. Oh my god, man,
uh oh ship, So what is the verdict? Drum roll
not yah?

Speaker 2 (42:23):
They called? They all can't reading back? What else so
as soon as everybody gets back and get situated, you'll
hear the verdict that you ain't got to be.

Speaker 1 (42:35):
I'm glad we went with that one first of all. First, right,
we might.

Speaker 2 (42:41):
Jesus Okay, Lindy, Lindy lu saying not guilty? Also correct?

Speaker 1 (42:48):
Yes, yes, I think so. So we got Denise, Uh,
Denise is not guilty. Yeah, let's see. Yeah, Denise says
they're not guilty.

Speaker 17 (43:07):
Would you guys can't show the video because it's a
copyright issue, but when they going to court, do you
want me to air the audio live? Yeah, if you can,
I can show it. But I can air it.

Speaker 1 (43:22):
Yeah, No, that's great, that's good. Okay. So just trying
to see if we've got any other Okay, So my
view that there should be a lot of cops that
go to jail. I think the brother of the or

(43:46):
the son is it just have to rewatch that thing.
But the son of the of albert I had a
lot to do with that, right because he had bloody
knockoffs and stuff. Right now, is that hey the guy?

Speaker 5 (44:06):
Did they ever actually come out with the determination of
the death for the corner blunt.

Speaker 3 (44:12):
Force trauma to the head and hypothermia a combination of
the two.

Speaker 2 (44:18):
M did did the hypothermia happen within the timeframe of
the Google search?

Speaker 1 (44:24):
So let me google that?

Speaker 2 (44:28):
Right. The only problem you're going to have with with
arresting some of them for the murder is, first of
all you do, you're not gonna have the energy, you know,
depending on how politically motivate, you know, the political motivation.
They already went out to Karen Read twice, so it's
going to be hard for them to get beyond reasonable
doubt against any of the other people because they already

(44:49):
said that Karen Read. The same of Timon will say
that Karen Read ran over with a car. So now
it's going to be hard to come back and say
blunt force trauma with mister Albert Sniols.

Speaker 1 (45:04):
Right.

Speaker 3 (45:05):
But the other thing that's interesting is that everything that
I've read that John's providing me, there's no documentation of
a head injury. I mean that so and not to
the best of my knowledge of everything I read, there
was only one interview conducted, and that was of Karen Read.
Like a documented interview.

Speaker 2 (45:26):
Did they get Yeah, why didn't they try? Why didn't
they do the phones? If they were all inbedded.

Speaker 1 (45:32):
Phones were in the trash at a goddamn military base.
They they would have got the cards and threw the
phones out. Who the fuck does that?

Speaker 2 (45:41):
They could have got the prior to that, the location
on that table, A T and T would have still
had their geo. Yeah, you could have still got that
the pool that they were lying and they all wasn't
home in band.

Speaker 3 (45:57):
My question is was this government issued the cell phone though?

Speaker 1 (46:01):
That too, That's a good question, been there everybody?

Speaker 3 (46:06):
Everybody carries to JQ like this.

Speaker 1 (46:09):
Hang on a second, a Krasner can help them get
a guilty veric on the cops. Guilty or not? No ship.
We'll get into that next next hour. Actually, we have
a video of Krasner being a criminal.

Speaker 2 (46:26):
So is Larry going to come on? We've invited him
on for the last several years. Come on and show
us your dada, Larry.

Speaker 1 (46:35):
Yeah, yeah, what's the data lab shithead's name? What's his name?

Speaker 2 (46:42):
What?

Speaker 1 (46:42):
Uh? Orn?

Speaker 2 (46:45):
Right? O?

Speaker 1 (46:47):
Yeah, car, Hang on a second to see. Okay, so
we're waiting for a verdict. Hang on a second. You
might find this. I wanted to talk about this too,
but a second more than oh so, apparently the judge

(47:16):
told everybody to stay in the courthouse because it shouldn't
be very long.

Speaker 3 (47:21):
Sure, So one of the things I had is that
you know, John, you've been I'm sure you've experienced in Jake,
I'm sure you've experienced as well as being audited, like
of all your procedures. So everybody's got a can format
of things that got to be done and when they
have to be done, and when you're doing any type

(47:42):
of investigation. But this is a homicide investigation, so it
would even be more involved. But they did have an
audit done that the city of Canton, I don't know
whether it's a city or what they're really considered in
approximate to Boston, and they found that they violated their
own policies.

Speaker 1 (48:03):
Don't we have you sent me a website? Right?

Speaker 2 (48:10):
Right? Right?

Speaker 3 (48:12):
Usually when I drilled down on any topic, Wikipedia is
a nice place to start. But that's only a beginning
piece of the threat material bill.

Speaker 1 (48:21):
Can we show number two? Karen read number two? I
think that's uh, that's it? Oh yeah. Canton Police audit
released full hundred full two hundred page report, Analysis and

(48:44):
Analysis and Reaction. Greg, have you have you you perused
that right? I did.

Speaker 12 (48:51):
I did.

Speaker 3 (48:51):
I also went to another another reference to see what
they actually had one. I want to know who conducted it,
because that's always interesting. Did they contract out you know
who those guys were, They former you know, Massachusetts police
officers or whatever. I was kind of looking for that stuff.
But they did, they addressed it, and they hit a
lot of the questions that we're throwing up here that

(49:13):
you know, why didn't they do this, and why didn't
they do that? Why did they violate their own protocols,
their own administrative uh you know, TTPs and things, because
it sure makes them look guilty, and trying to do
a cover up.

Speaker 1 (49:28):
Makes them look guilty.

Speaker 4 (49:30):
Fucking that's the understatement rights.

Speaker 3 (49:39):
All the things. As a supervisor, you don't want your
agents or you know, folks getting involved with you. Knows
as you you you always stick to the game plan.
You never oh my god, you know, I didn't bother
me that they're using. Uh So I remember snowm again
and when it hit d C and the national capital
regions are really large region and you have agents that

(50:02):
you have to respond in the snow, and you still
got to do everything that is expected of you. Brown
paper bags are okay, temporary evidence because they breathe, especially
when you know, you know.

Speaker 1 (50:15):
Yeah, yeah, I've.

Speaker 2 (50:17):
I was there doing snow again and I was in DC.

Speaker 4 (50:20):
When as far as the chief of the chief or
the commander of the police gos to this situation.

Speaker 1 (50:30):
Hang on a second. We got Denise is telling us
Brian Cowerker is in trial in court now also pre
troll Harry, that'll be a good one. And then Denise says, uh,
Denise is a retired uh Philadelphia detective, right, yes, yes,
And she said where Jerry said they had a verdict

(50:52):
and they knocked on the door and then they said
they didn't help to have one. Oh ship, do we
know if they're getting butt dialed or not.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
Yeah, they've been hitting it, not with their butt. It's
a jury person.

Speaker 1 (51:08):
Named gin in regard to I mean, I think all
three of us have had occasion to be.

Speaker 2 (51:17):
Signed.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
That was evidence Cusodian at some point. And to Craig's point,
if you put some items in plastic bags, they just
become mold. You know, a lot of bloody evidence that
that's why you put them in paper bags so they
can breathe or whatever.

Speaker 2 (51:40):
And even that in the more room is still. Oh
my god, it's weeks in there.

Speaker 1 (51:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (51:46):
And have you ever had an enemy that doesn't come
out to the scene?

Speaker 1 (51:49):
That's okay, hang on the I'm sorry. Uh the judge
made them see all the first verdict and entered it
into evidence. What okay? Like what what? Uh?

Speaker 2 (52:05):
Well, they can't come back with a guilty verdict now, Johnny,
they got to use the first verdict pill press. Wow,
screwed up?

Speaker 1 (52:15):
Oh my god. I mean have you guys, have you
guys seen the verdict sheet?

Speaker 12 (52:24):
No?

Speaker 2 (52:24):
But have you guys ever heard of something like this happening?
Because I have not? Ye?

Speaker 1 (52:29):
Yeah, agreed, great, you know. I wanted to mention though
that as people start zeroing in on the participants at
this uh after party, that it's related to two other

(52:49):
cases of missing people, so that could be bad.

Speaker 4 (52:57):
Well, this is this is why I was asking, like,
what was the relation of the chief or the command
or whoever is in charge of their force out there.

Speaker 3 (53:07):
So my understanding is is I'm kind of trying to
brush off the dust here on that is that that
we're talking about where the body's found as Canton, Massachusetts,
and so that would be a different the chief of
police there is a chief Elena Rafferty and and our
and our guys in question, our Boston cops. So I'm

(53:29):
guessing that they police in Boston with the Boston Police Department,
but this particular house is in Canton, mass which would
be a different jurisdiction. And then so you had you
have the Massachusetts State Police investigating. I'm guessing because it's

(53:52):
a small a smaller I'm guessing this. My guess is
that is it's a small berg. They got the Massachusetts
Police doing the investigation, but they also had a console.
The FBI did a forensic look at the car and

(54:13):
the tail light and they said that the initially in
the court that that the FBI said that it wasn't
consistent to any type of harmful damage to officer O'Keefe,
and then initially Karen Reid's counsel had filed for a
dismissal due to that, but the judge said, no way,

(54:39):
the verdict is in. Boy, I hope I articulate that. Well,
I'm not.

Speaker 5 (54:45):
Sure you did fantastic.

Speaker 4 (54:47):
So that's kind of why I was thinking, maybe it's
more than just the Pineapple Club, and maybe there is
something else going on there, especially now that you're life,
it's involved in two other missing persons. Maybe there is
some sort of organized aspect of additional.

Speaker 5 (55:04):
Intrigue going on there. As I'll put it mildly.

Speaker 2 (55:09):
Agreed, I think they eventually have to unseal that original verdict.
What if that was not guilty they went back and
had it guilty in a home I mean, this is something,
like I said, I've never seen it before. The judge
is going to have to unseal that. Now. If it
was home and they just went back to continue deliberations,

(55:30):
that might be another thing. It may not be as bad,
but if it was like I'm not guilty, then we
got problems.

Speaker 1 (55:41):
Yeah, there's a lot of problems there.

Speaker 2 (55:44):
They say, confusion at the courthouse.

Speaker 1 (55:45):
So how many times have you guys been how many
times have you guys been but dialed in the past hour?
Just asking seventeen?

Speaker 2 (55:55):
Yeah, not on my owners, seeing how many people a
butt dow?

Speaker 1 (56:02):
Yeah exactly. Oh god, Okay, so we're coming up against
a break here. Hang on, Uh is that even legal?
Isn't that public information about the verdict?

Speaker 3 (56:19):
I've never heard of that. I heard.

Speaker 2 (56:21):
I've never been to Lindy. I wish I can give
you an answer, but I've never seen anything like this,
and the fact that they don't have a verdict and
that she was filled out and the judges ordered it's stilled.
I'm sure there's going to be some filer request depending
on the outcome of the trial.

Speaker 1 (56:35):
Okay, just to reak out. We got one minute left
and shit's happening. So we've got Marcus were they not guilty?
We've got Greg with are not guilty? Jake but they're
not guilty, Denise without a not guilty, and uh Lindy
leeu with are not guilty, and me not guilty except

(56:56):
for all the cops that should be guilty. Okay, So
stay where you're at because we're all be jumping on
that the second it comes out. Okay, we'll be back
in like five minutes. Okay, Okay, we're back. So Greg's
a chair now.

Speaker 2 (57:15):
You know what I mean. And they ask you the
same questions on on the TV about what's in that envelope?
What's the verdict of the first woman?

Speaker 1 (57:23):
Yeah, okay, we got to listen to this in your
presence ever since.

Speaker 19 (57:41):
Here we go, mister Foreman and number twenty two eight
two c R one one seven zero zero one, murder
in the second degree. Let's say you is the defendant

(58:01):
of the bar, guilty or not guilty, not guilty, so
says performant, So say you.

Speaker 1 (58:09):
Do you agree the gay?

Speaker 3 (58:11):
Do you all of you agree?

Speaker 1 (58:12):
Thank you? Zero zero two? What day?

Speaker 19 (58:15):
Is the defendant at the bar not guilty or guilty,
not guilty or guilty vout not charge or any lesser
included charge? Uh specifically number five operate under the influence
of liquor, I operate a motive or the blood alcohol
level or point eight or greater.

Speaker 1 (58:37):
Correct.

Speaker 3 (58:38):
So say you this performant, So say you all?

Speaker 1 (58:42):
Zero zero three.

Speaker 19 (58:43):
Let's say is the defendant at the bar leading team
after accident, consulting and desthe defendant.

Speaker 1 (58:48):
Not guilty or guilty, So say this performant, So say
you all, it's HARKing.

Speaker 19 (58:54):
Your verdict is the court records, and you and your
old dependent on zero zero one is not guilty, zero
zero two is guilty of uperating the influence of more
and zero zero three not guilty.

Speaker 6 (59:08):
Rights everybody please succeeded juris.

Speaker 1 (59:16):
Wow, So everything but the d U I no more
miss miss trials said.

Speaker 2 (59:23):
O U, I and I don't even know how they
got that other than you know, she was in a
vehicle at some point going to see him with the
with the blood alcohol level. I don't, right, I don't.

Speaker 5 (59:36):
That sounds a little questionable.

Speaker 1 (59:38):
Also, that was perfect timing, though, wasn't it?

Speaker 16 (59:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (59:41):
It was right there, mis.

Speaker 1 (59:43):
Bill row damn man.

Speaker 5 (59:45):
Couldn't we come back from commercial right exactly?

Speaker 2 (59:50):
Uh So.

Speaker 1 (59:52):
Do you guys have any other thoughts about that? The
I mean they call it, oh uy there, So I
don't know what she's facing in regard to that.

Speaker 5 (01:00:08):
He's gonna somebody. She needs a that need that charge
needs to either be.

Speaker 4 (01:00:15):
Somehow negated, or she's going to need to just basically
get like a a ticket or something, because if she
goes to jail, I think they're gonna kill her.

Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
Yeah. So how about obstruction of justice for the fucking
guys that broke their SIM cards and threw it in
the trash in the military base? How about that?

Speaker 3 (01:00:38):
Yeah, there's a civil case right now being held in
abeyance to this case where the two so John O'Keefe
was in custody of his niece and nephew and they
were suing uh Karen Reed and the bars in the

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civil case, but it was being it was being held,
so that case, I don't know how that will go.
I mean, it's probably going to get washed out at
that point, and then it would be interesting to see
if sometimes the Bureau will open up a case on
a police department when it's when you have this kind
of gross conduct. Yeah, Jake probably can probably speak to

(01:01:23):
a little bit more because I'm not sure that maybe
Philadelphia has had a few of those in the past.

Speaker 2 (01:01:29):
I'm trying to think.

Speaker 3 (01:01:31):
Uh, so I was working with Oxnard. Oxnard had every
shooting that they got involved with had to be investigated
or reviewed by the Bureau, and that was some kind of,
you know, federal mandated thing that was being done. I
don't know whether it was Congress was involved or or

(01:01:53):
who was involved in that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:54):
Right, Oakland been the subject of that too, haven't they,
I believe. So, yeah, civil rights violations and ship like that.

Speaker 2 (01:02:05):
Yeah, I'm still trying to figure out how they got
the who saw how operating the vehicle, wanted the influence?
Does she testify to.

Speaker 1 (01:02:15):
That well, because oh yeah, she admitted to that. She
ated to the house driving Okay, so she had a
blood alcohol level of I don't know point zero nine
or some ship, and she admitted having had well, I

(01:02:40):
don't know. Is the OUI a misdemeanor. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:02:44):
The judge just said they're going to do sentence him
next week, sensing for that operate day.

Speaker 1 (01:02:50):
Christ. Well, anyway, this opens up a lot of ship
for a lot of other things to happen. I think, yeah, personally,
but I would certainly I want to know who the
hell is looking at the obstruction of justice for throwing

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out this film, especially after that series of butt dials
and the googling of you know, how want it take
you to die in the cold? Unbelievable, It's crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:03:23):
I think they're just going to just go away. There's
too much. Yeah, I mean you're talking about what people.

Speaker 1 (01:03:32):
Denise. You should see the people cheering outside. Yeah, yeah,
there there. This isn't This is a very good point, uh,
Lindy Liu. All the officers all drove home from the
bar intoxicated, right right?

Speaker 3 (01:03:47):
Correct?

Speaker 1 (01:03:49):
Why aren't? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:03:54):
I think that they actually had their their blood alcohol
levels take in as well, and some of the documents
that we reviewed this week.

Speaker 4 (01:04:08):
Yeah, they're gonna they're gonna try to kill her. In prison,
in jail, she doesn't have to go, she's.

Speaker 1 (01:04:14):
Not going to be speaking of that. What the hell happened?
R Kelly Kelly, Yeah, Ashburn some bad Ashbury, bad acid,
bad ass.

Speaker 2 (01:04:28):
No Asburn. You know he took one of the diagrams
of Ashburn.

Speaker 1 (01:04:32):
All right, okay, jesus, I mean I.

Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
Don't know, because some people are saying they tried to
kill him. But if they try to kill him, just
wait for them to die before they go get them
treatment if they correct.

Speaker 1 (01:04:45):
Yes, correct, Okay, So oh, let's see we got to uh, Denise,
she is not going to jail for that, right exactly,
She's not going to Yeah, thank you, Denise, thank you
very much.

Speaker 2 (01:05:04):
I think they're gonna they're gonna give a bottle of
jack for that.

Speaker 1 (01:05:11):
I get the impression that Denise and Lindy Lou they
have twenty five different TVs from there in their living room,
you know, so they can keep it in the commander.

Speaker 2 (01:05:23):
That's our command center.

Speaker 1 (01:05:24):
Yeah exactly, Denise and Linda lu are command center. Yeah.
So let's see, this is why I think cases need
to be done out of jurisdiction of location to try
to get unbiased jury. Yeah. Well I'm surprised they didn't

(01:05:44):
ask for change of venue.

Speaker 5 (01:05:47):
Huh, yeah, that's weird, right.

Speaker 12 (01:05:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:05:50):
Well, you know, if you don't mind me bringing this
up Affinity, you know the police after Infinity, was that
a sham or what?

Speaker 2 (01:06:05):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (01:06:06):
So, and it's also in Boston. What the hell are
you people doing up there?

Speaker 2 (01:06:12):
I can't see how this even went the trial with
the medical examiners saying that she didn't he didn't get
hit by the car, and the prosecution saying he got
hit by the car. In a homicide trial, you only
get murdered after the medical examiner tells you it's murdered.
I know, no one got shot in the head, but

(01:06:33):
the medical exam say this cause of death was being
shot in the head. If the medical examiner in this
case saying that the cause of death was not him
being rantoled by a car in particular, and she yea,
then how did they putty on trial for getting rantled
by car.

Speaker 1 (01:06:49):
By The prosecution was really grabbing its straws there, I mean,
I mean, you can tell that the accident reconstruction guys,
I mean, they had one shithead on there that didn't
know shit. He painted an arm a crash dummy arm

(01:07:11):
blue and ran the car by it. And then they
have another one, another group that does it for a living,
and they determined that it didn't happen like that. There
was no way it could have happened like that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:26):
That's said early on the FBI determined that he wasn't
hit by the car.

Speaker 5 (01:07:30):
Right, Well, I guess I have a question. So what
were they saying? Her reasoning was for hitting him with
the car?

Speaker 2 (01:07:40):
She was drunk?

Speaker 3 (01:07:42):
Yeah, I don't think it ever said a reasoning. Yeah,
I don't think that ever said that.

Speaker 1 (01:07:47):
You know that she had for it, Lindy Lujah, not
moving venues worked in her favor. Yeah, I did.

Speaker 3 (01:07:56):
So. I just want to get a quick check and
I want to make sure that I'm not passing. Now
back out. The only one that had their blood alcohol
level taken was Karen Reid.

Speaker 2 (01:08:06):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:08:06):
Nobody else had their's done.

Speaker 1 (01:08:08):
So what about the other butt dialing fuckers? Were there
were there alcohol levels? Oh my god, man, I can't
believe it. It's just that's I mean, you know, it
shouldn't take you know, somebody? Uh yeah right? Uh comment

(01:08:29):
to a very good point to Marcus, A very good point. Okay,
So if you want to if you want to, uh
a comment, You've got uh you know, you've got a
homicide detective Jake Jacobs. You have a veteran n C
I S visually and Greg Collins and uh a conservative

(01:08:52):
voice of significance, uh, Marcus Williams. And then you have
myself and we will answer your questions. I like to
know what the hell is in the water in Boston
and why you guys are fucked up. There's something totally
wrong there.

Speaker 2 (01:09:11):
That should have been her defense. She drank the water.
It fu yeah, uh.

Speaker 1 (01:09:19):
Yeah, that, I mean, the whole thing is uh embarrassing
to law enforcement. Oh uh, apparently they're drinking to twisted tea.
Twisted tea, yeah, drink, yes, exactly exactly. I think. I mean,

(01:09:49):
there's gonna be a lot of pleased human beings.

Speaker 4 (01:09:53):
So apparently twisted tea is made by the Boston Beer
Company Cincinnati, Ohio.

Speaker 1 (01:10:08):
Hang on a second, let's see it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:13):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (01:10:16):
Yeah, uh boy, she Linda Leu at the nail on
that head. Sounds like there's a lot of corruption in Boston.

Speaker 2 (01:10:25):
Democratically run city, Massachusetts.

Speaker 1 (01:10:29):
Greg, you were assigned up there or covered that area?
What is that? Uh? You know, we didn't get specific
or anything.

Speaker 3 (01:10:39):
What do you think, Uh, every city has its issues.
I mean, uh, you know my time there, Chief Evans
was the chief of Boston and he was you know,
he went up through the ranks. He was you know,
I saw the earth type guy and I enjoyed a
little bit of interaction I had with Boston p D

(01:11:00):
from twenty fourteen to twenty eighteen. But this is just
something that every now and then, it's kind of like
some kind of weird anomaly where everybody just kind of
you got to have a good reason to do this,
just didn't do anything the way they were supposed to
do it, and that you know, at the very least

(01:11:21):
to be captain obvious. It doesn't look good. And I'm
somebody's going to have to to kind of clean it
up because you can't leave your community with a lack
of credibility that the people that were entrusting to look
out after us are committing gross misconduct and their investigations

(01:11:43):
like this, Yeah, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (01:11:48):
I'm wondering if the only way you can do this
is to take them now that she's been found not guilty,
to go after because you're not going to get them
in any type of criminal trial is to go after
them civilly for the malicious prosecution and didn't make you
get all that corruption depositions in trial.

Speaker 3 (01:12:04):
In that manner, usually the what you see happen is
as they go in and they fire everybody. You see
the chief of police usually gets fired, and and people
that are in key positions in the police department. I've
seen it a few times. I remember DC Metropolitan Police

(01:12:25):
when they were they had homicide investigations. They had like
one sheet of paper in their file. They fired everybody.
They brought in Chief Ramsey, and Chief Ramsey started a
whole initiative. And I only know him from that time period.
So I'm going to say that what I saw him

(01:12:45):
do is revitalize the police department. John, you may not
remember I was going to go to work for DC
Metropolitan Police. Yes, yes, and I was kind of excited
about it. I'm you know, maybe maybe not so excited
about looking at Jake's demeanor, maybe it wasn't a good
idea for me.

Speaker 2 (01:13:03):
I'm gonna not like Greg when he first came to Philadelphia.
You know, he spoke well, and you know, I thought
he was going to bring a lot of the things
that you're describing. But after a while, I mean, he
probably did at a nice career, you know, talking head
on TV. Matter of fact, his protege is the current

(01:13:24):
police commissioner and he was Kevin Bethel, so he was
part of selecting him. But by the time I went
to DC, I went to a Nationals game when the
national was bad and the Phillies were good. And when
they found out I was Phillip p d. Because it
was a bunch of us, they were glad. They couldn't
have been happy that we took Ramsey off their hands

(01:13:44):
by then, So you know we had any of those
DC beers that day. It was it was a bus trip,
so I don't have you know, he never treated me wrong,
but and people who came after him, like I would
have preferred to have someone from within, because that's what
Ramsey in what you're saying, is to clean it up,

(01:14:07):
and that's what he attempted to do, which didn't make
people happy.

Speaker 3 (01:14:10):
Some people that seems would you agree that that seems
to be the sequence of events that they usually come
in and they remove the chief and keep keep positions
of personnel, and they'll bring somebody in that has a
new idea and of how to clean up a department,
or has a record of because I think Ramsey and
Ramsey's case, he came from either Washington or Chicago before

(01:14:34):
he came to d C. And Philadelphia.

Speaker 2 (01:14:37):
Yeah, I think he went from Chicago to DC to Philadelphia. Now,
I will say, sometimes you bring in change and it
doesn't work, because before we used to have sectors, and
they changed it with the CompStat stuff and all this
other stuff, and they made the area of patrol and
that's what they try to Everyone want to tell you
community policing now. But what they did was the op

(01:15:00):
of community policing because when we first when I first came,
when you had a small sector in the sect that's
the term sector car and you knew everybody. I knew
who the drug dealers were, I knew the person was
more likely to shoot you. I knew the person was
more likely to get shot that day, and I knew
the burglars and everything else. But then he changed to
I think they called them PSA's because by that time

(01:15:22):
I was off the street as far as in uniform. Okay,
I think that that is I think they need to
go back to you know, getting a cop to con
straight on a smaller area, and I think that'll bring
crime down. I think that's the one thing that I
didn't like that Ramsey did read John, I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (01:15:42):
Okay. So on September twenty third of twenty twenty four,
it says discipline was announced for two people connected to
the Karen Reid investigation. Canton Police detective Kevin Albert was
suspended without pay for three eight hour shifts. An investigation

(01:16:10):
found that the detective, whose brother Brian Albert, owned the
home where John O'Keefe's body was found, behaved in a
way that was unbecoming of a police officer and violated
department policies about alcohol consumption or possession on the job.

(01:16:32):
That's minimalistic compared to what the fucking really happened.

Speaker 2 (01:16:36):
What did he get? He got fired? John in the
second No, no, so his lot.

Speaker 3 (01:16:46):
That was the lead investigator, right, that was the master. Okay,
we'll hang on a minute.

Speaker 2 (01:16:55):
Wow. Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:16:58):
March nineteen of ten, twenty five, Michael Proctor, the lead
investigator in Reed's case. Oh wait a minute, Michael Proctor,
the lead investigator in Reed's case, was fired by Massachusetts
State Police.

Speaker 2 (01:17:16):
Is it because of the Read case.

Speaker 1 (01:17:19):
Yes apparently, but there's look I said, there's two or
three missing people they're connected to this, and there's some
kind of grooming thing happening.

Speaker 2 (01:17:33):
So well that's bad. That's actually will support Read civil
complaint against them. In fact, lead investigators now got terminated.
You know, I think they're going to settle out a
quote we hear at this point. First of all, everybody
paused to come out with depositions and trial.

Speaker 1 (01:17:55):
It's I mean, you know, it's it's uh beyond blatant. Yes, well,
what the hell is going on?

Speaker 2 (01:18:03):
No photos was taken to the guy's hand.

Speaker 1 (01:18:08):
Well, there was one photograph I think of the of
the hand, but they but he attributed it to falling
on him. Oh you mean the victim.

Speaker 2 (01:18:18):
No, the the guy who was probably in an altercation.

Speaker 1 (01:18:22):
Yeah, according to that one video we showed, it looks
like they took a picture.

Speaker 4 (01:18:31):
Earl or the.

Speaker 1 (01:18:33):
Person that made the video came up with a picture
of bloody Nichols. But the guy said his response was
he fell on the ice. When was that? I would
like to know when that was? I mean, you know what,
what the god all around bad? How about that?

Speaker 2 (01:18:56):
All around more questions, even with the not guilty in
the answer.

Speaker 1 (01:18:59):
Yes, exactly. Okay, So that was perfect timing, though, wasn't
it excellent?

Speaker 3 (01:19:07):
I mean just trying to get your mind around this case.
I mean, it's like a really bad joke. A bunch
of cops go to a bar, I mean, and then
you've got to try to figure out everything. You know,
you're sitting there going around trying to piece it all
together into a timeline. It does. It really just bad,

(01:19:28):
all around bad.

Speaker 1 (01:19:29):
So, according to the prosecution, she backed into John o'keef
fifteen minutes after she left. I mean, it's just they're
grabbing its straws. The prosecutors headed their head up their asses.
I mean, you know, they should be prosecuting the people
that admittedly threw their phones out and broke their SIM

(01:19:53):
cards and were butt dadling each other.

Speaker 5 (01:19:56):
Yeah, they really were trying to cook OUM what damn?

Speaker 2 (01:20:00):
Yeah, what if they gonna say once to it took
four hours of din of snow? Was they going to
say that Camen Red came back to X six a M.

Speaker 1 (01:20:11):
I mean, it is, yeah, they were, I mean they're
they're you know, we've all seen how it works. Something happens,
and then they try to fit ship into Yeah, you know,
they fit they try to fit the square peg into
the round hole round.

Speaker 2 (01:20:34):
Now, I think police officers defend this are the worst.
When they do a crime like this and they try
to cover it up, they are the worst.

Speaker 1 (01:20:40):
And Lindy Lewis they obviously felt confident that they would
get away with it and are untouchable. It wouldn't surprise
me if they were all involved in payoffs and serious
gamal activity like back in the day in NYPD. Mm hmm. Anyway, h.

Speaker 2 (01:21:06):
You know, Greg brought up the brown paper bags and
everything isn't how they used to? Is that the term
bag men? You know Boston had a lot of.

Speaker 3 (01:21:16):
Waity bulger in the southeast.

Speaker 1 (01:21:19):
Yeah, yeah, okay, so yeah, I'm sure we'll have more
to say about that as time goes on. But uh,
I'm waiting to a.

Speaker 2 (01:21:35):
Civil trial now, that's that's definitely got to be where
some of this information want to come out, because there's
definitely a civil trial. No doubts or civil complaints want
to be foun Rather, it's a trial gets you to
the trial.

Speaker 1 (01:21:46):
I don't know, yeah exactly. Okay, So yeah, you know
we want to keep following up on that and finding
out what the hell is going on. But I want
to catch I want to cover a couple of these
other things. This is interesting. Let's see here. Hang on

(01:22:11):
a second, try to find it. Oh yeah, so you'll
be able to figure out what happens in this.

Speaker 21 (01:22:24):
Okay, Hey everyone, yesterday my detectives were serving a search
warrant on a cartel member where they took all of
this drugs off the streets. We've got fetanyl pills, we've
got cocaine, we got methamphetamines, we got gun seats from
this cartel member. Here's the crazy part. Some idiots, thinking
it was an ice ray, came down in protest. You

(01:22:51):
want to protest this not getting off the streets. That's insane.
Stay out up and now count if you're going to
commit crime. And I really want to thank my Anti
Smuggling unit for this long investigation. This was over an
half a year investigation where they've got thirty two pounds
of cocaine off the street and twenty two pounds of
methamphetamines off the street to include the fetanol pills. Thanks guys,

(01:23:12):
you're doing a great job keeping the County Safe.

Speaker 1 (01:23:14):
Hey everyone, So they showed up to protest the search
warrant because they thought it was ice ray.

Speaker 2 (01:23:25):
But you know, this is getting out of the hand. This,
this is getting dangerous, and I think you know it
needs to become more than a slap on the wrist
like that mayoral candidate and y'all Neck of Awards in
New York. You know enough of this. You know you
can't just let him out. The next day they got
to go to jail. Well, we did, They did do
it this for I showed John Lindy Lou.

Speaker 1 (01:23:46):
Okay, so hey, look, let's uh, okay, okay. No kings, no.

Speaker 8 (01:23:54):
Kings, No kings, put your mask on. No kings, but
you're fired from getting the vaccine. No kings, but we're
shutting down the parks and the beaches. No kings, but
we don't accept your exemption here. No kings, but we're
shutting your business down. No kings, but Grandma's going to
have to die alone. No kings, we're shutting your church down.

Speaker 2 (01:24:16):
No kings.

Speaker 8 (01:24:17):
Here's a hotline so you can tell in your neighbor.
No kings, but here's our list of mandates. No kings,
you must stand on those circles, No Kings, you must
force your crying child to wear a mask.

Speaker 5 (01:24:30):
So who's really the tyrant?

Speaker 1 (01:24:33):
You have no shit?

Speaker 2 (01:24:35):
Larry Kraftsman still have people standing on not the circles.
He got a little pieces of paper pull for.

Speaker 1 (01:24:41):
Listen.

Speaker 4 (01:24:42):
These are the same people that were informing on their
neighbors for having too many people a Thanksgiving and it's
beyond me.

Speaker 5 (01:24:50):
So I'll give you an example where I am.

Speaker 4 (01:24:52):
We have a neighborhood that has been deemed an entertainment
district in my city. So now you have to show
your ID to get into a neighborhood in our city.

Speaker 5 (01:25:04):
How does where are the protests for that?

Speaker 4 (01:25:06):
I thought it was no Kings, no fascism, no this,
no that, And all I'm seeing is these same people
that say no Kings, pumping authoritarianism and trying to give
more power to the government, especially when it comes to
authority overreach and government surveillance.

Speaker 2 (01:25:26):
Okay, I want to Mark Marcus is black, and all right,
black people can't get ID. So how do you get home?

Speaker 4 (01:25:36):
You know, it's you know, it's apparently it's difficult to
go downtown to the DMV and get a fifteen dollars
reissue of your ID or a ten dollars non ID,
I mean, non driver's license.

Speaker 5 (01:25:51):
I d you know, it's sometimes I guess it's what
was it?

Speaker 1 (01:25:56):
What did?

Speaker 5 (01:25:56):
What did the president say?

Speaker 2 (01:26:00):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (01:26:02):
Poor people are just as smart as Yeah, yea something
like that.

Speaker 4 (01:26:10):
Yeah, it's it's it's uh, it's insulting to say the least.

Speaker 5 (01:26:15):
You know, it's sad.

Speaker 2 (01:26:18):
It's amazing when someone with your color was able to
figure out that technique to ID.

Speaker 1 (01:26:23):
Okay, yeah, that's very Uh. Anyway, how about Florida you
should hold the plant? How about Florida and no king?

Speaker 22 (01:26:34):
So I'm gonna I'm gonna break it down for you,
all right. And if somebody wants to know what I
mean by turn violent, all right, this is what I mean.
If you resist law florders, you're going to jail. Let
me be very clear about that. If you block an
intersection or a roadway in brevarc County, you are going
to jail. If you flee arrest, you're gonna go to

(01:26:55):
jail tired, because we are going to run you down
and put you in jail. If you try to mob
rule a car in Brevard County, gathering around it refusing
to let the driver leave. In our county, you're most
likely going to get run over and dragged across the street.
If you spit on us, you're going to the hospital

(01:27:15):
and in jail. If you hit one of us, you're
going to the hospital and jail and most likely get
bitten by one of our big, beautiful.

Speaker 2 (01:27:24):
Dogs that we have here.

Speaker 22 (01:27:26):
If throw a brick, a fire bomb, or point a
gun at one of our deputies, we will be notifying
your family where to collect your remains at because we
will kill you graveyard dead. We're not going to play.
This has got to stop. You're watching what's taken place
out there. You're seeing police officers that are being attacked,
being spit on, being put in harm's way just for

(01:27:49):
doing their jobs. You're seeing ice agents that are being
targeted for doing their jobs. And you're seeing obstructionists that
are doing all of this standing in the way of
law and order.

Speaker 1 (01:28:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:28:08):
Well, I mean, I love Grady jud but this guy, he's.

Speaker 1 (01:28:12):
All okay, So I mean we can't leave the politicians out.
How about Kathy Hoekel of New York.

Speaker 6 (01:28:24):
Jesus, do you know who secure A Khan is?

Speaker 5 (01:28:27):
I want to get back to the first.

Speaker 6 (01:28:29):
No, I'm asking you a question. Do you know who
secure Acan is?

Speaker 4 (01:28:32):
I want to make sure you understand that this simply
says that we will cooperate with Ice.

Speaker 23 (01:28:37):
No, it does not say that. I read what it says,
and let me talk to you about the results. Do
you know who secure A Khan is? You should as
the governor of New York State?

Speaker 2 (01:28:45):
Do you know?

Speaker 5 (01:28:46):
Refresh my recollection?

Speaker 23 (01:28:48):
He was an illegal migrant in New York And do
you know what crime he committed in addition to being
here legally?

Speaker 5 (01:28:53):
No, I do not, you do not.

Speaker 23 (01:28:55):
This was widely reported. He found a fifteen year old girl,
threatened her with a metal poll, told her to get
into the back seat of his car. He took her
clothes off, and he violently raped her in Albany, New York.

Speaker 1 (01:29:09):
Yeah, exactly in the capitol. Yeah, Jesus, Albany What a shithole? Jesus. Okay, So.

Speaker 2 (01:29:20):
You know, now, do you have the other one? When
she didn't know about the girl?

Speaker 1 (01:29:24):
Yeah, yes, yes, yes, yes, she's I just wanted to
say that, you know, in some circles, the nickname for
our governor keathy Ogle's rat base. So we're going to
close up. We're going to get a close up office.

Speaker 6 (01:29:40):
You signed Executive Order one. Is that correct?

Speaker 2 (01:29:46):
If it is?

Speaker 6 (01:29:47):
And you extended this executive.

Speaker 23 (01:29:49):
Order not once, not twice, but three times, most recently
January sixteenth this year.

Speaker 6 (01:29:54):
Is that correct?

Speaker 3 (01:29:56):
If that's what's your fact show I signed countless executive orders.

Speaker 23 (01:29:59):
I would assume you know it's Executive Order one and
this is a continuation of your predecessor sanctuary state policies.

Speaker 5 (01:30:05):
Correct?

Speaker 6 (01:30:06):
Is included in that?

Speaker 4 (01:30:08):
I want to be sure we are defining sanctuary state problem.

Speaker 6 (01:30:11):
To define it for you.

Speaker 23 (01:30:11):
It is the policy of the state that state officers
or employees shall not disclose information to federal immigration authorities
for the purpose of federal immigration enforcement. It goes on
to say law enforcement officers may not use resources, equipment,
or personnel for the purpose of detecting and apprehending any
individual suspected or wanted for violating a civil immigration office.

(01:30:33):
Law enforcement officers have no authority in the State of
New York to take any policy action solely because the
person is an undocumented alien.

Speaker 6 (01:30:41):
That's a quote in your executive orders that you extend it. Now,
do you know who secure a con is?

Speaker 5 (01:30:47):
I want to get back to the first pet.

Speaker 6 (01:30:48):
No, I'm asking you a question. Do you know who
secure a con is? I want to make sure you
understand that this simply says that we will cooperate with Ice. No,
it does not say that. I read what it says,
and let me talk to you about the results. Do
you know who secure a kan is? You should, as
the governor of New York State. Do you know refresh
my recollection?

Speaker 23 (01:31:07):
He was an illegal migrant in New York and do
you know what crime he committed in addition to being
here legally?

Speaker 2 (01:31:13):
No, I do not. You do not.

Speaker 6 (01:31:14):
This was widely reported.

Speaker 23 (01:31:16):
He found a fifteen year old girl, threatened her with
a metal pull.

Speaker 6 (01:31:20):
Told her to get into the back seat.

Speaker 23 (01:31:21):
Of his car, He took her clothes off, and he
violently raped her in Albany, New York.

Speaker 6 (01:31:26):
Do you know who Sebastian Zubpeita Khalil is. I'm sure
you'll tell me.

Speaker 24 (01:31:31):
There's many cases, whether they're these are high profile cases.

Speaker 6 (01:31:34):
New Yorkers know about them and you don't.

Speaker 23 (01:31:35):
So let's talk about Sebastian Zubpita Khalil.

Speaker 2 (01:31:39):
Do you know who that is?

Speaker 4 (01:31:41):
I don't have the specific details at my disposal now.

Speaker 23 (01:31:43):
Well, this is an illegal migrant in New York because
of your sanctuary state policies.

Speaker 6 (01:31:47):
Do you know what crime he committed? I'm not familiar
at this moment.

Speaker 23 (01:31:52):
I bet you're going to be familiar when I remind
you he found a sleeping woman on the subway, lit
her on fire, and burnt her alone.

Speaker 6 (01:32:00):
This is in Kathy Hochel's New York and as.

Speaker 23 (01:32:03):
I'm sure you are aware, and I'll remind you that
ice issued in order to detain this violent criminal, but
that was rejected by.

Speaker 6 (01:32:10):
New York officials.

Speaker 1 (01:32:12):
Yeah, what.

Speaker 4 (01:32:16):
A complete Hey, well, you can't tell what they're thinking
because all that classic surgery.

Speaker 5 (01:32:25):
Maybe it's leaked.

Speaker 1 (01:32:26):
Into her hand exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:32:29):
So it's it's it's it's crazy that they didn't talk
about Julio Caesar.

Speaker 5 (01:32:37):
What's his name, Julio.

Speaker 4 (01:32:39):
Caesar Peninelia salat so Innaro. How are you say that?
So this guy was here in Rochester. They arrested him
and his brother. They were able to catch them, not
here though they fled. And here in Rochester they took
this family, slit the family's throats, including two very young children. Yes,

(01:33:03):
and then set the house on fire and burnt it
to the ground and they were here illegally. You know,
it's crazy. And that's right here in my backyard. It's
fifteen minutes to get from my house today.

Speaker 1 (01:33:16):
Were they here illegally through Boston via Boston? I'm not.

Speaker 5 (01:33:22):
I don't know, but you never know these days.

Speaker 1 (01:33:26):
Okay, so wait a minute, hang on, Denise correct, New
York governor, too busy getting botox to not know who
the criminals are. Her face does not move. Oh shit.
They need to be held criminally and civilly liable.

Speaker 5 (01:33:47):
Jessa update.

Speaker 4 (01:33:48):
The two young children's ages on that crime were four
and two years old.

Speaker 1 (01:33:54):
Yeah that's appalling.

Speaker 2 (01:33:56):
Yeah, okay, so animals way back when you know, he
was zena fool but whatever. They called him every name
of the book. And you look at some of the
crimes that they've committed, they're horrific. They're not just regular
murders and things of that nature. They are horrific crimes
with you know what they did with Lincoln Rowley her head,

(01:34:18):
and you know, with that little girl for for seventeen minutes,
with you know this, it's time to get rid of
these people. And if you get in our way, they
need to go to jail too. I'm sorry enough of
this bs.

Speaker 1 (01:34:32):
Okay, one more politician before we get to what the
hell Marcus is doing, which is awesome, But one more politician.

Speaker 9 (01:34:43):
No, not that I can recall.

Speaker 24 (01:34:45):
What kind of operation were you guys running over there?

Speaker 9 (01:34:47):
I was more concerned with Donald Trump's cognition.

Speaker 24 (01:34:50):
Thank god he's He's president and J. D Vance's vice
president and not you have you ever served in a
combat zone?

Speaker 2 (01:34:56):
Governor? I have not.

Speaker 24 (01:34:58):
Congresswoman, Okay, are you so friends with school shooters?

Speaker 9 (01:35:03):
I have never been a friend with a school.

Speaker 24 (01:35:04):
Since you say you were friends with school shooters on
the debate stations.

Speaker 9 (01:35:07):
Oh, Congresswoman?

Speaker 12 (01:35:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:35:08):
Is bullying?

Speaker 15 (01:35:09):
Is bullying?

Speaker 9 (01:35:10):
Parent is?

Speaker 24 (01:35:11):
My mom was a teacher. I'm a high school dropout.
We can talk about that later.

Speaker 5 (01:35:15):
Is bullying okay?

Speaker 9 (01:35:18):
Is bullying okay? As teacher?

Speaker 1 (01:35:20):
Is bullying?

Speaker 6 (01:35:21):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (01:35:21):
Yes?

Speaker 12 (01:35:22):
Or no?

Speaker 6 (01:35:22):
Is it okay to bully somebody?

Speaker 9 (01:35:24):
I guess or not I'm to push back at a bully?
So yes, I do think there's a time.

Speaker 2 (01:35:28):
So you think it's okay to bully others.

Speaker 9 (01:35:29):
I think it's okay to bully the bully at time.

Speaker 24 (01:35:31):
You're showing that the Democrat Party is a party of violence?
Were you at Teman Square?

Speaker 9 (01:35:37):
Have I been to Tenements Square?

Speaker 2 (01:35:39):
I have?

Speaker 24 (01:35:40):
Were you at Tnem and Square?

Speaker 9 (01:35:42):
I have been at Tans When were you there? As
I recall up January of nineteen ninety?

Speaker 5 (01:35:52):
Okay, what is a woman? What is a woman?

Speaker 6 (01:35:59):
Is a question.

Speaker 9 (01:36:00):
I'm not sure I understand the question here that what
do you What do you want me to say?

Speaker 24 (01:36:07):
This is I want you to say that a woman
like me is an adult human female, that men can't
become women. You guys are the party of violence and
you're the party erasing women.

Speaker 1 (01:36:19):
That's a fact. Walts put the hit on James murdered
and shot and he killed the dog too. So Jake
Wat's a woman.

Speaker 4 (01:36:35):
I thought that was a four letter word for a
female dog, that that was what he was. But I
might be mistaken.

Speaker 1 (01:36:47):
We're spot on, Denise. Have you ever seen a dumber
idiot than Walter Bigger?

Speaker 2 (01:36:53):
Yeah? No, he's it.

Speaker 1 (01:36:56):
He fits an He.

Speaker 2 (01:36:57):
Didn't even have the surgery to get it, that big Denise.

Speaker 1 (01:37:04):
Okay, So I want to got about fifteen minutes left,
but I want to. I want to tell you Marcus
as the conservative voice of Western New York. You know,
I wouldn't limit it to Rochester, but he has effectively

(01:37:25):
told the city council in Rochester several things, and your
points were very clear. There are more videos, and perhaps
we could show them on subsequent episodes, but these are
two that are interesting, and then we're gonna learn who

(01:37:45):
he's talking to and what their associations are.

Speaker 5 (01:37:50):
Good evening, everybody, Hey, everybody, Marcus C. Williams here.

Speaker 4 (01:37:54):
I've come here tonight to speak on the crime as
per usual, and I wish that I could just stop
speaking about this if it were actually being addressed. I
was at a neighborhood meeting the other night and one
of the members of council was there and.

Speaker 5 (01:38:07):
They said, oh, you know, the crime.

Speaker 4 (01:38:08):
That's here is really going up compared to other cities
that it has been rising in also, but it's rose
in here more. And it was very nice to hear
that individual address that issue. But that individual has not
been addressing that issue this whole time. I was very
disappointed in that fact. Now, with that being said, we
have people that don't feel safe outside. I've had a

(01:38:31):
guide just the other day get stabbed in front of
my building.

Speaker 3 (01:38:33):
This is very serious and I really wish that.

Speaker 4 (01:38:36):
You would allocate appropriate amount of interest and investment into
getting people onto the police force, but also standing up
and supporting our police in law enforcement because they don't
feel supported. So why would anybody in the community want
to go out and join the police to actually work
in the communities to make our community safer. A lot
of people say, oh, well, police won't make anything safe.

(01:38:58):
For whatever the case is. Their job is to put
criminals in jail. That's what I want them to do.
I want the criminals that are out here robbing, stealing,
maiming people, beating up old ladies, all of them, I
want them in jail. You know why because when they're
not punished, other people see that they're not punished, like
the people that are stealing the cars, these criminal terrorists, okay,
especially the youth that are stealing these cars. People are

(01:39:20):
seeing that they're not getting punished, so they're doing more
of it. We have to address these issues, and I
plead with you guys to publicly advocate for the changing
of bill reform and the amending of the rais of
age laws. And you guys continue not to publicly address
this issue with the State Assembly and with the state Senators.

Speaker 5 (01:39:42):
Why why won't you speak up for us?

Speaker 4 (01:39:43):
You're supposed to be our representatives, but it seems that
more of you are scared of downstate and to other
people than you are concerned about actually standing up for
us as a community.

Speaker 5 (01:39:53):
Thank you, guys.

Speaker 1 (01:40:03):
So I just want to cover these comments before we
move to the next thing. Hang on a second. Yes, excellent, Marcus,
thank you, thank you. Yeah. Trump is saying the Iranians
want to come to the White House. Okay, correct, he

(01:40:29):
needs to wear dressing. Yeah, there are Waltz Okay, so
this is awesome. This is also Marcus addressing the city council,
and we'll identify who he's addressing as shortly after this.
This is ass kicking though.

Speaker 4 (01:40:46):
Hey everybody, Marcus c. Williams here. I'm gonna run through
this list real quick. I don't have a lot of
time to cover everything. But the lack of advocacy from
this body on public safety is whack. The whole issue
with the lack of policy regarding housing is whack. The
whole issue with the energy policy in this city is whack.

(01:41:08):
The whole issue with the transportation and the way the
city streets is set up is whack. All of these
things are issues. I come here and I talk about
a lot of them, and I try to give solutions
all the time on all of these issues.

Speaker 5 (01:41:19):
I rarely wish that we would have more.

Speaker 4 (01:41:21):
Transparency on a lot of you guys ran on transparency
and I'm not seeing it.

Speaker 1 (01:41:24):
I'm just not.

Speaker 4 (01:41:25):
I hate to tell you a lot of the RFPs
and stuff like that, I got questions that I don't
have answers, and a lot of it doesn't look very
clean to me.

Speaker 1 (01:41:34):
Excuse me.

Speaker 4 (01:41:35):
And then as far as what we got for energy policy,
people are calling for urg need to be a public utility.
I was one of the first people to publicly call
for that as far as being a politician goes. But
what they're asking for is not a public utility. What
they want is actually a nonprofit that they can control themselves.
If it was a real public utility, I would say

(01:41:55):
that what we need to start by doing is reallocating
those funds to looking into creating small modular nuclear reactors
in this city so that we don't have to rely
on the infrastructure from RG and E and their power
issues and stuff like that, that we can create it
here ourselves and we have more enough power and we
can sell it outside. Plus there's grants from the federal
government and the state government to work on that, and

(01:42:17):
you guys can actually look into that. Also, as far
as the housing policies, I don't want there to be
any more tax breaks on all of these huge buildings
and stuff with all of this upper skill housing that
you're not given to the same to regular people that
own properties in their own homes.

Speaker 5 (01:42:33):
And I also want to see you.

Speaker 4 (01:42:34):
Guys draft legislation for the public safety issue by actually
drafting legislation here which you can craft to hold these
continued offenders that keep getting let loose because you guys
don't advocate to the state level to change these laws.
That's what I got for you guys. Thank you guys
very much. I have a blessed knife.

Speaker 1 (01:42:58):
Yeah that's right. Okay, So hang on when we're coming
so big transfer line Bible mission. Yeah, okay. So let's bill.
We have the website for the Rochester City Council. Marcus,

(01:43:20):
can you identify the h if we go down for
can you identify the Democratic Socialists of America please? Yes.

Speaker 4 (01:43:27):
So there's two right there on the bottom right, which
is Stanley Martin and Kim Smith. And then if you
scroll down a little more, there's Mary the Red right there. Okay,
they are all three endorsed by the DSA. Now, if
you scroll back up a little bit, Stanley Martin was

(01:43:48):
one of the key lynchpins in creating all of the
riots in twenty twenty.

Speaker 2 (01:43:55):
She was out there.

Speaker 4 (01:43:56):
Yeah, bro, listen, it was bad, bro, it was real, bed.
She was out there fermenting all types of destruction and
was rebel rousing to encourage people to violent and aggressive
action against the police and to burn down my community
and my neighborhood. It's ridiculous. It's ridiculous. And she's running

(01:44:20):
for reelection this year. Kim Smith is retiring, but Mary
is running for mayor. Lord help us all.

Speaker 1 (01:44:27):
Yeah. So the the Democratic Socialists of America that currently
run Minnesota, right, don't they run Minnesota? Right?

Speaker 3 (01:44:39):
So?

Speaker 5 (01:44:39):
Yep, where they just assassinated the people.

Speaker 1 (01:44:42):
Bill put people need to know these shiptheads?

Speaker 5 (01:44:49):
Are they men? Stanley thinks that she is one.

Speaker 1 (01:44:54):
So what's the story with this Mitch guy, Mitch Kruber,
has he got his ship to.

Speaker 2 (01:45:02):
You know?

Speaker 4 (01:45:03):
I try to be nice about it, but the fact
of the matter is is he used to be my
neighbor okay.

Speaker 5 (01:45:09):
Around the corner from me, and we have a.

Speaker 4 (01:45:11):
Very serious issue with violence and drugs in our community.
But then he had a baby and he moved to
a nicer neighborhood. He is never one, yeah, right, He
has never once spoken up about the crime, the violence,
or the drugs, and that's very very concerning. It's very concerning.
He also has a doctorate in history of the City

(01:45:33):
of Rochester, so it's not like he doesn't know how
things work and how other things affect other things.

Speaker 5 (01:45:38):
So I don't get it.

Speaker 1 (01:45:39):
Jesus. What about Willie Lightfoot. It's his deal.

Speaker 5 (01:45:44):
So he's a local business owner. He owns a barbershop.

Speaker 4 (01:45:47):
But he also his father was a very prominent member
and did a lot in the community politically also, and
his dad was really really beloved in the community. He's
been here on city council for a while. He also
was a county legislator for a little bit. Or that
might have been his cousin, but he's been there for

(01:46:07):
a little while. I just wish that he would come
out of his mouth with some more advocacy, being that
he's in the area that I'm from.

Speaker 5 (01:46:15):
So I don't I don't get it. I don't I
don't get it.

Speaker 2 (01:46:19):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:46:19):
So Stanley Martin, that's a weird name for a woman, right, yep,
transgender or I listen.

Speaker 4 (01:46:31):
I'm pretty sure she's a woman. She just thinks that
she can act like a man, and I'm not messing
with none of her bull dykiness.

Speaker 1 (01:46:39):
Oh hey, this is good. Is she any relation to
Lori Lightfoot the guy?

Speaker 7 (01:46:46):
No?

Speaker 5 (01:46:46):
But she did have that, Uh, she did just have that.

Speaker 4 (01:46:50):
What was the girl's name, the short girl from Buffalo
that was the socialist that was.

Speaker 5 (01:46:55):
Running for man. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
She just came down here to help her and Mary
in campaigning craziness.

Speaker 1 (01:47:05):
Oh great, okay, So Kim Smith at large, what's the deal?
What can you tell us anything about her?

Speaker 4 (01:47:12):
She's associated in the far left, in the far left
part of the portion, but she's more reserved than the
other two.

Speaker 1 (01:47:20):
So okay, Stanley is the one that was involved in
the riots, yes, in promoting them? Yes, okay, Bill, can
you bring that up a little bit so we can okay. So,
purple lady, what's her name?

Speaker 5 (01:47:35):
Mary, Mary, Mary Lupian.

Speaker 4 (01:47:37):
That's the lady that was yelling at JD vans at
the conventions, at the Convention of Cities, So she yelled
at him because that's what she does to try to
get notoriety for herself, because she just doesn't care about
anything outside of her own personal point of view. I
think that she really might somewhere on the inside mean well,

(01:48:01):
but she surrounds herself with socialist people. So everything that
she puts is socialist and she really is a true believer.
And it's alarming because we got to get her out
of that thought process because everything she's doing goes against
the actual impact and assistance that she claims that she
wants to do.

Speaker 1 (01:48:19):
Yeah, right, well, usually that's the case anyway, right, Yeah,
So Bridget Monroe, the jury's.

Speaker 5 (01:48:27):
Out on her. She just got there.

Speaker 4 (01:48:29):
I'm still trying to fill her out and see.

Speaker 2 (01:48:32):
What it is.

Speaker 1 (01:48:33):
How about Michael Patterson.

Speaker 4 (01:48:36):
Didn't like him during COVID because he was a COVID
tyrant and pushed.

Speaker 5 (01:48:40):
All that nonsense.

Speaker 4 (01:48:41):
I got serious beef with him on that, But he
has been pretty active on speaking up for the about
the crime and stuff like that, and has actually a
couple of times said something about the terrible laws.

Speaker 1 (01:48:57):
Okay, don't take that down. If any of you on
that page want to come on and tell us how
great you are, You're welcome to do that. So okay,
so we only got two minutes, so we got it
for today, right, Karen Reid not guilty except for you know,

(01:49:17):
o U y and uh we kind of explained what
the hell the whole case is about. I mean, there
needs to be a lot of you know, people get
their asses and a jam for that. It's so blatant.
It's so blatant. If you're from Boston, you know, uh,

(01:49:41):
get all of us and tell us what the hell's
going on up there. Same thing with you know, off
Sergeant Finnerity, you know, that was a problem, so uh,
you know, and Brad Lunsford in New Mexico he's uh,
you know, still fighting and uh you know he was
wrongfully prosecuted as well. So but if you can explain

(01:50:04):
to us what the hell is going on in Boston,
what the hell is going on in New Mexico, uh,
and Rochester for that matter, So okay, we'll be happy
to hear you. We'll be happy to hear you. Okay,
So I think we're just about out of time. You guys,
have anything else? Do you want to tell us.

Speaker 2 (01:50:25):
Real qut that just one to give a shout out
to my former police inspector and his brother. They were
politically arrested by Larry Krasner in the Pennsylvania State Police
yesterday just throughout their case. Sokras just lost again Washington.

Speaker 1 (01:50:44):
Yeah, that's great, that's great. We have we have two
videos of Krasner freaking out like a like the criminally is.
We'll have to show them next week. Next week because
we're out of time.

Speaker 4 (01:50:58):
And if you guys want to check me out, please
go to my website Marcus the number four Rochester dot
com and you can find out more about me and
some of my plans. And even if you're not local,
you can donate and help the cause to move the
campaign forward.

Speaker 2 (01:51:12):
Definitely, Marcus.

Speaker 1 (01:51:14):
All right, So, and and Greg's in good shape because, uh,
the legislature is a world what is it?

Speaker 2 (01:51:21):
You can't know the Pennsylvania No, the United States Supreme
Court just ruled in Tennessee's favor that you cannot reulate
miners anymore in Tennessee.

Speaker 3 (01:51:31):
That's great, JA law is better than I do.

Speaker 1 (01:51:36):
There we go go, but we expect you to show
us one of those uh, you know Tennessee, Uh, pineapples
and Tennessee corn next.

Speaker 3 (01:51:47):
The Tennessee corn. I could do, but I've never seen
a pineapple in Tennessee, to be honest with you, other
than an RV park, which I don't go near those.

Speaker 1 (01:51:55):
Please.

Speaker 2 (01:51:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:51:58):
Yeah, she's on the with scrunch. She's on the on
the top either right.

Speaker 3 (01:52:03):
That's right, that's right.

Speaker 1 (01:52:05):
We have to explore what's the connection with Boston on
all that? About that, it's all right. Hey, thanks guys, Marcus,
thank you, Greg, thank you, Jake, thank You'll see you
next week, Okay, thanks

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