April 2, 2025 • 56 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:53):
Okay, guys, it's search warrant detective Jake Jacobs along with
my co host today Ralph Cipriano of Big Trial. If
you notice someone's missing, it's our fearless leader, John Snedton.
So yeah, we had to let him go for the day.
(01:16):
You know, we sent them off, We sent them packing
for a little while. And behind the scenes we have
detective and a mid lard. So me and Ralph were
going to sit back and hopefully get through this without
any type of supervision. And one of the guys that
we're going to be talking about, of course, since it's
(01:38):
me and Ralph, is the guy who knows we're going
to be talking about him. He has his head down
behind Ralph Cipriano. And that's of course, the corrupt criminal
District Attorney Philadelphia District Attorney Larry Krastner, that's behind He's
right behind you, Ralph. I mean, he must know you're
going to talk about him, because evidently over the past
(02:01):
several weeks you've been missing us, We've been missing you
because you've been stracking all them. I don't what do
you want to call it, Ralph. I mean, you've been
tracking this criminal down for the last few weeks and
nothing seems to be going his way. So let's you
want to start with Vocchi or you want to start
with the judge and go back. So you want to
start with voch and go forward.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Well, jump in at any time, Jake, Wow, Am I
getting the that comor are you getting in that com?
Speaker 1 (02:27):
No? You're fine?
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Okay, all right, let me tone this down a little
on my own value. I've been away because I've been
in court. There's been one hearing after another involving Larry Krasner,
and the first one was held by the State Supreme
Court in a rare king's bench petition. They don't take
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these very often. They're only filed in terms of extraordinary
situations where you know, the legal system of the common
Wealth is being is in jeopardy. And in the case
that the State Supreme Court heard, it was filed by
the families of two murder victims of an exonerated killer
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that Larry Krasner let out of jail. And the interesting
thing about this case is it challenges the method that
Larry Krasner pulls off forty five to fifty exonerations. And
basically what happens is the criminal defense lawyer comes forward
and says, hey, my client, the convicted killer, deserves to
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get out of jail because of egregious misconduct conducted by
either the police and or the prosecutors. And after the
criminal defense lawyer makes that those allegations, instead of having
to prove them in court, Larry Krasner, like the lying
dog that he is, just lies down and agrees and
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basically concedes arguments, concedes that there was indeed police and
or prosecutorial misconduct, and then they go into court and
in a joint stipulation they ask a judge to let
a guy go free. And they have done this more
than one hundred times in The main witness that appeared
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to testify in front of the state's highest court was
the chief Deputy Attorney General of the state and the
attorney General was asked by the state Supreme Court to
come in as a friend of the court and do
some investigating into what Krasner's doing. And the guy who
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testified on behalf of the state attorney General's office is
chief Deputy Assistant Attorney General Ron Eisenberg, who is one
of the finest lawyers in the state. And Eisenberg basically
told the state's highest court that there is no way
to figure out exactly how many times Krasner has laid
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down in court and let a convicted killer either out
of jail or off death row, because the records disappear
quickly and they just can't even keep up with it. However,
the Eisenberg, the Deputy Attorney General Chief Deputy Attorney General,
was willing to say to the court, and he filed
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reports that backed it up that he had tracked one
hundred and eight cases appeals by convicted killers where Krasner
has just simply laid down and said, you know, yeah,
there was prosecutorial and or police misconduct in this case,
so we're going to let your guy either out of
jail or off death row. And basically Eisenberg's argument to
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the court was that you can't trust Larry Krasner when
he makes these concessions because in every case where they
have been tested, either by a judge you insists on
a holding and having jerry hearing or somebody looks into
it or whatever, his concessions had been proven to be
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problematic and basically not true. So you know, there for
two hours, the State Supreme Court held the hearing and said,
what do we do about a district attorney who won't
do his job, won't stand up for crime victims, won't
protect public safety in more than a hundred cases involving
convicted killers. What do we do about this guy? And
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the AG's office is basically saying Krasner won't hold an
evident Charry hearing, then you've got an order one and
will do the investigating. We'll have to take up for
Larry and play the part of prosecutor in this case,
because Larry's just another defense lawyer. So it's an extraordinary case.
I think, you know, all the justices seemed concerned about
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what's going on in Philadelphia. My favorite part of the
story was this was a two hour hearing, you know,
extremely unusual. All that's Philadelphia City Hall. The Philadelphia Inquirer's
office is eight tenths of a mile away, and they've
got two hundred reporters at their disposal and they didn't
send one down to cover this hearing. So that tells
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you where these you know, where we are in criminal
justice in Philadelphia and where we are in media responsibility.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
So Chris Palmer and Samantha Mella meat wasn't available to
go cover Larry Krasner. Is I mean they always cover
Larry Krasn. They couldn't get down there for that one.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Rough, Well, they only do puff pieces about Larry Krassner.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Jake.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
You know that's how it works. You've seen these guys
in action. So, and that was just the start. That
was one of four different legal venues in Philadelphia in
just one month March of twenty twenty five, where Larry
Krasner's corruption in confidence was exposed. And we can go
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through the other three venues.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Yeah, before we come to the other ones, I want
to touch back on this one because if Eisenberg, who
represents the Attorney General's office or the state so to speak,
if he has to go through and act as the prosecutor,
then is Larry Krasner acting as a defense attorney in
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this thing? Because Larry is the one who's finding all
this alleged egregious prosecutorial misconduct when he's not actually telling
the lie Ralph. Because there is egregious proscctural mist conduct,
it's just that Larry is the person that's committing it.
To sad. Yes, So when Eisenberg comes into the courtroom
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and let's just say, because I didn't notice until I
think one of the articles, who was one of my
favorite jedge least I I kind of like testifying with him.
This is the this is the next case, this is
the most recent case that that we're going to touch
on in a minute. I didn't know the judge Bronson.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Was, uh.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Was on the State Supreme Court now and he's one
of the most fairest stern Now, don't get me wrong,
he's sterned. He runs a tight ship in his courtroom,
at least when I was there, he did. And it's
someone like him, a no nasense type of jurist that
I like seeing on the State Supreme Court. And I
think he knows because he was a homicide judge. I
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think he knows of Larry's Shenanigan because a lot of
these cases that he that Larry maybe saying, are there's
something wrong with either a Judge Bronson or Judge Sandy
Bird or someone like that, or Judge Barbara McDermott. They
presided over these cases. So what you're doing, you're questioning
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a way they called balls and strikes and a lot
the evidence in their courtroom. So this guy, I think
he's in the world of hurt and Honestly, Ralph, I've
been thinking lately because we got to look into this.
We need to look into charging Larry. Not because you
know I'm you very well know. I'm working on the
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criminal complaints with the AG's in the US Attorney and
hopefully I'll be getting that done soon. But we need
to start looking at Larry for actually committing premeditated murder,
because all of his actions were premeditated. Rather it's attacking
police or getting rid of the prosecutors when you first
got there, or when he first got there three days
(10:40):
later he released thirty one fire.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
What you have chronicles the most senior guy in office.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Not only that, they were homicide prosecutors. So it wasn't
it like there wasn't homicide trials in the hopper? M
What did you have to What did you do with
those homicide trials? You had to get a rookie up
the snuff on a homicide chial has been one or
two years old and had to get go to trial.
This is the kind of acts that we'll get into
(11:16):
this next article, Shanella, the Paratrot article that Judge Dugan
is talking about. Tell us about your thing at this
little candidate's form with Judge Dugen.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Huh, well poor. You know, first of all, the city
of Philadelphia is pathetic. I mean, if we had a
functioning democracy, Larry Krasner would be under siege. People would
be standing in line, both the public officials and the
media calling on him to resign. But you know, we
had several candidates back out of the Democratic primary who
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were thinking about challenging him. The only one who jumped
in was the president of the municipal Court, Pat Dugan,
who's sort of a political down uh and he's uh,
he doesn't have much rain name recognition, and it's certainly
an uphill battle against a guy named, you know, guy
like Larry who's a two term uh uh, you know,
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incumbent and has friends like George Sorows. But the Republicans
couldn't even find a candidate to run. So it just
I don't know. Dugan's doing his best. I followed him
to two candidates forums, and I spent a lot of
time recording all of the race baiting and outright line
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that Larry Krasner engaged in. He Krasner is truly, you know,
just two complete liars, And go ahead, no, no, no, no, no, no,
please feel free to inter but he you know, it's
just disgrace what's going on there. But when you were
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talking about judges that you respect, made me immediately think
of Judge Slomsky.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Well, just it's it's funny how the Lord works. You know,
this country need to get back of God because he
works in mysterious ways, which seems like we seem to
be tethering ourselves away from. But anyway, Judge Joel Slompsky,
you know, people at least in the federal District court
circuit seemed that when I was coming after Judge Harvey Bardell,
it was because I was some sort of novice Jewish
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attorney that didn't know when people were committing egregious judicial
this is the big Yeah, so what he's doing, you
can leave that there, because that's what hopefully in a
couple of months Larry have his head like that. Judge
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Slompsky was a judge on one of my other federal
court trials, and what he did was he let me
know that he was monitoringteam my other case involving Krasner,
because he knew that I was the same plain. But
he didn't want it to leak over into that trial.
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But he was fair. You know, I didn't like all
his rulers because a lot of went against me, most
of them went against me, but he heard me out
before he made his rulings. So when you got into
the one where I believe it's Joe Bologna's case in
my correct yes, yes, So when you got into inspected
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Joe Bologna, who this guy illegally violated his constitutional rights
and arrested for doing nothing but his job, which is
another pattern in practice of Krassners. You know, when he
sat back and finally let Brian Lynz, George poketto, Gavin Lynch,
Jeff Agron and the lights at Bulqueto and Lentz, when
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he finally let them pierce that absolute immunity veil that
Krasner has been hiding behind when he's not acting as
a prosecutor but an investigator. Because one of the things
you brought up when you talk about Eisenberg and how
this guy's turned the criminal justice system on his ears
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by acting as both the DA and the defense attorney
and making money off of this is that's the same
thing he's doing in the investigator states he wanted to
be the prosecutor for immunity purposes, but he's the only
one in that corrupt conviction Integrity Unit and Special Investigations
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Unit at the District Attorney's office are the only ones
doing any investigations. So the law is clear, if you're
acting as an investigator, you are not entitled to absolute immunity.
And that's what Brian and George and Jeff and Gavin
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so arearticularly argued in front of Judge Slamsky, which is
why they don't have absolute munity. And we'll see their
response to the city's motional crashing emotions to dismiss I
think the next filing is due on April y eight,
so we'll see in about six days how they argue
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that point, on how Krasy got out of that point.
Because as once again, Ralph, you chronicled us very well,
Joe Bologna, as everyone stated, was a victim of an
assault and a robbery. Joe Bologna did not strike anyone
in the head. Tracy Tripp, Jerry Rocks, Larry Krasner, Patricia Cummings,
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and everyone else in that office conspired and tried to
get the medical examiner, uh doctor Dolino yea twice to
change their which I believe because I haven't talked to
doctor Deleno since he left the medical Exammler's office, But
I believe that was the catapult to him leaving the
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medical teams off. He's been there forever. He loved his job,
and that I think he's teaching somewhere in DC. I'm
not one hundred percent sure exactly where he's at, but
this is the kind of corruption in a type of
scum that follows like Krashma, where he causes good people
to flee not only public service, but the city entirely.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Well, yeah, that's an excellent point. So this is a
false and malicious prosecution case. Staff Inspector Joe Bologna was
charged with striking a protester while actually a rioter in
the head with his metal baton, causing a wound that
was two inches long and needed ten stables and a
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bunch of stitches to close. That's the case that Larry
Krasner filed against it. There's a thirty six second video
of the event, and the video clearly shows that Bologna
does not strike the protester or the rioter on the
head that he strikes him on a backpack that's on
the guy's shoulder, which according to Department in Philadelphia police regulations,
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is an acceptable use of force, especially when you consider
the circumstances that Joe Bologna was under. And I think, Jake,
you can described us better than yep. Do we lose, Jack, Jake,
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we can't hear you, Jake, go ahead and describe. Yeah,
there's this still of the There is photographic proof Bologna
is striking him on the back. That's a shoulder, that's
a backpack that he actually hits him on. Jake, you
can tell us what Joe Blogia was trying to do.
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Don't forget that this protester rioter claimed he was peacefully
protesting and the video shows the exact opposite of that.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Go ahead, j Well, this shows a lot here and
one thing and we'll get into Ama recoil and Judge
mister Goldberg and them later with the candor or lack
thereof from the District Attorney's office. The one thing Judge
Slompsky didn't do is actually tell these guys your liars,
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because with this shows here Ralph, and with the video
showed and the way Judge Slamsky got around calling them liars.
Is he made the statement that he doesn't know, but
he's still gotta wait for these briefs. He doesn't know
if Joe Bologna, based on the District attorney's lack of investigation,
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should have ever been charged. So he's calling them a
liar without calling them a liar, which is good. But
as you can clearly see he here Bologna strikes Gorsky
on that backpack and on the shoulder, which is a
properly perfect legal, an accurate strike, you ask me. But
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what you don't see here in that still frame is
Bologna now has to take his attention off of what
he was doing because of Gorsky, it was effected an
arrest of another person. Gorsky jumps in the frame because
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he's not a protester, he's a rioter. There's a big difference.
Rioting is when two or more people engage in the
course of disorder conduct that's just disorda condo. These people
are actually rioting with masks and other things. So while
Inspector Bologna and other members of the philip Police Department
are trying to affect an arrest of another rioter, Gorsky
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jumps in to protect his rider. Inspector Bologna has to
turn his attention to Gorsky so that the other officers
can affect the arrest. And now he's gonna arrest Gorsky. Well,
they get into a struggle. After this, Gorsky assaults Bologna,
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takes his ass and throws it to other riders. Now
in the direction of other riders. Let me put it
that way, because no other rider picked it up, So
let me keep everything perfect. So what happened there? Oh,
there we go. So that's robbery and that's assault. But
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what the Krasner, Jerry Rocks, Patricia Cummings, and Tracy Tripp do.
They did the same thing they did in the Penel case.
They went and got in touch with Gorsky. They solicited perjury,
and they solicited perjury with the promise of a financial
pay they at early their date.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Which he did. He scored seventy years.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Got one hundred and something thousand dollars. I don't care
if it was a dollar, because most cases, if you
get a dollar, it's considered a win in the court
system if you get awarded one dollar. But he got
one hundred and seventy five or I want to say,
I know it was one hundred and something thousand. I
don't know exact amount off the top of my head. Meanwhile,
you took the criminal, made him a victim, and paid him.
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You took the law enforcement officer, made him a criminal,
turned this up his life upside down for years, and
finally it got tossed out. But with the crash, can
do you know? I don't know if you saw that
video I retweeted yesterday what he said? Matter of fact?
(22:48):
After Bologna one? What did he say? You saw a
Bologna on the cover of the Daily News. This is
not the only time Bologna did something illegal, and it's
not the last time you're going to see belong you
do something illegal. That chows Krasner's You've been around them
more than anyone malice. Yes, you've been around them on anyone. Sadly,
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how many times have you heard Krasner since he's been
here in twenty eighteen, since he's you could probably say
before that, how many times have you heard him take
responsibility of anything?
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Never? Never? The pandemic is you know, when the murder
went from three fifteen to five sixty two from twenty
seventeen to twenty twenty one. Larry Krasner blamed the pandemic.
He blamed the police, he blamed the judges, he blamed
the jurors. He blamed the witnesses for not showing up.
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He blamed poverty, he blamed poor education, he blamed the
lack of recreation programs. He blamed everything on the planet
except his lax policies, which was of evolving door of
justice and then kept releasing people to you know, violent
criminals to commit more crimes. When the murder rate plunged,
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Larry was the first to stand up there and credit
his policies at the DAO for the reduction in the
murder rate. So that's the kind of guy is. And
that's pretty much what Judge Dugan told me. Judge Dugan
as the president of the municipal cord, he sat in
on a bunch of meetings with Krasner, and he said
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Krasner was always passing the buck and blaming everybody else
or whatever went wrong, never accepted responsibility.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
You call these you call these things policies, and I
call them premeditated crimes.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Dugan's theory is premeditated anarchy. He said that that's what
he was doing.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Yeah, it's premeditated crimes. He knew, if you judge Dougan
been around for a minute, I've been around for a minute.
Anybody in law enforcement anywhere. You heard on the news,
from every law enforcement person, from a rookie to someone
who's been retired twenty years. This was expected. But he's
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not doing it for policy purposes or to be that
white savior that he claims to be when he goes
to these stupid people like Jamie Gartier and whoever else,
Reverend Ike at the who formerly was at Bethel A
and Amy. But anyway, he knew because before twenty twenty,
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if you was to make the pandemic the baseline, the
murder rate was still going up, Ralph, it went up
in eighteen, it went up in nineteen, so it was
going up before twenty twenty. He just broke the record,
you know. And he was doing it with Aska leave
Ike Raw, Christopher Narris and everyone else. Black Lives Matter
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for profit, you know, we talk about we'll get into
Shaka Johnson and everything. So it's not policies. These aren't policies.
This guy is in a position, he's the fox in
the henhouse. That's that's where he's at now as a
district attorney.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
I totally agree. Let me let me read your Dugan's
quotes about what it's like to sit in private group
settings with Larry Krasner quote, he's pretty condescending. He's a
pompous jackass who thinks he's the smartest person in the room.
I don't have any respect for the man when he
looks in the mirror. I don't know how he can
sleep at night. How the hell can you be a
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DA without ethics. I think that's a pretty good round up,
don't you well.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Rockie's my problem with this judge Dugan, who Larry tried
to he smirched by saying, he said, I mister demeanor
court instead of the MC court municipal court, you know,
which is where all the courts takes his start. They
all started MC court for the most part, even homicide
to go to the MC court for the preliminaries, which
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is Larry's. Another part of larry scam was to use
these phony investigating grand jury so that he could bypass
someone like Dugan. He can do the bypass the preliminary
hearings and violation of people's rights in Pennsylvania. That's what
he did with Panell, and that's why he got caught,
and that's why he didn't do it with Air. Well.
(27:29):
But one thing and one thing, Ralph, getting back on
this King's Bitch petition when you first talked about it
in Eisenberg here and the releasing of all these murderers
and for payment.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Let's let's get the jail right.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Well, let's get into one of the chief jail breakers
who's been a lawyer for a couple of decades and
the chief of the homicide division for Krasnan. What did
Anthony vote? You say, wild testify.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Well, this is a matter that goes into Judge Coyle's court.
Judge coyl Amory Coyle common please judge, she's the one
who levied one hundred and twenty thousand dollars in fines
against Larry Krasner. Sanctions. She sanctioned his office because of
their behavior in terms of how they treated a former
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prosecutor named Beth McCaffrey. And she ordered the entire Larry
Krasner's entire department, all three hundred lawyers who worked for him,
to take a continuing legal ed class of twelve hours
to be taught by the State Supreme Court's Disciplinary Board
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ons Ethics for Lawyers, ethics for prosecutors, and she wanted
specific emphasis in that class for being candid to the court,
in other words, not lying to judges. So that I mean,
have you ever heard of such a thing, Jacob. I
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think it's unprecedented a judge sanctioning an entire department for
lack of ethics.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Listen, Ralph, it doesn't happen. And you know, it's one
thing to have a coax snort in defense attorney coming
here and a judge knows because his nose is dripping
and saying, hey, you got some ethical issues there, dude,
And you know, maybe refer him to the discipline board
or someone else, or keep it this in my opinion,
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and we can have a couple of other attorneys on
head or later date. I've never seen it. And let's
just say you got one bad DA or two bad
das Ralph, judge and Maricoil said, his whole office, its
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entire office. He's training all you guys to lie. So
we have to purge a lying from your system. If
you guys are going to be officers of the court.
You gotta be held to that high standard, you know,
But Larry's training criminals, Ralph, this has never happened. If
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you can find me, you're out and about, you need
to talk to you.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Ever heard it, Never heard it, Never heard it.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
It's never been heard of. But Ralph, this is why
me and you met. I tried to bring this to
people's attention. From the very beginning. I was I don't
want to say I'm the first one, unfortunately, but in
twenty eighteen when I first well I met you in
twenty nineteen, but in twenty eighteen when I called these
people liars. And we can't just blame it on Larry Krashton.
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We gotta blame it on people like Frank Fenor, people
like Jason Hendershot, people like Robin Wimberley, Rochelle Balive. We
gotta blame it on law enforcement officers too, who knows, oh,
this is occurring and not doing anything about it.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
A lot of judges.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Well I was about to bring up the judges if
Duken said this to you, and he said in private settings,
well that's speak for when a bunch of lawyers are
around at their cocktail party. Everybody know this coppers ass
is sitting around, walking around like he's the smartest thing
in the room, and while he's drinking up everybody's stuff
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and eating up everybody's food, and everybody should be happy
that he was there, but everyone knows he's a liar.
So how do you go back and put back on
your black robe or grab your briefcase and still deal
with this guy knowing that you're dealing with a bunch
of lies? And how do you let one hundred murderers out?
What's worse, Joe Biden letting people across the border to
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kill us, or lad Kras and letting murders out of
jail to rekill us.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
That's a tough one. Jakeold, we should have a poll.
We should duck a poll on.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
We said to a poll. Uh.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
Back to this McCaffrey case. So this is the case
of a convicted killer named Dontiev Patterson, whom Larry's decides
he wants to exonerate. This is Larry's first exoneration, and
he blames the whole thing why they have to let
this guy out of jail, but of course never approve
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anything at court. On a prosecutor named Beth McCaffrey and
another prosecutor named Richie Sacks, and he claims that because
of egregious prosecutorial misconduct, we have no choice but to
let mister Patterson lose. Mister Patterson promptly turns around and
sues the city. And I believe what was it, Jake
one point? Yeah. Anyhow, so Beth McCaffrey is pissed off
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and she's so she goes in and this whole thing
starts with the right to know request. She asked Larry
Larry's office to hand her back her homicide files. He says,
if you produce those files, you'll see that every piece
of exculpatory evidence, evidence that may tend to exonerate the
defendant that you're accusing me of of not turning over
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to the defense layers. If you produce my files, you'll
see that I wrote memos to these defense lawyers containing
the exculpatory information, every piece of info that you've accused
me of withholding. You'll see that I sent faxes to
these defense layers and individual memorandas about every piece of
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exculpatory evidence I was turning over, and then my files
I would put in every facts confirmation sheet that I
got that the facts was delivered and the defense lawyers
got that information. So what does Krasner do. He turns
down a request to see her own files, which she
says will defend her reputation. So she files an appeal
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and we're right to know her quest. And this goes
on for five years and it eventually ends up in
Judge Anne Marie Coyle's court and judge where am Marie
Coil starts holding evidentiary earings. And this is where, you know,
they bring in Anthony Vogie, who was at the time
that mister Patterson was let loose. He was the head
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of homicide. He's the guy who went into court and
presented the emotion and argued for it to be accepted
that turned Patterson loose because of the egregious prosecutory of Wiscondin.
And so when Vochi gets on the stand, they ask him,
you know, well, gee, when you file emotion and you
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sign it with your name under penalty of perjury, you're
telling a judge that you investigated every fact in here
and found it was true. Mister Vocchi, what what you know?
How much investigating did you do before you sign this
motion and is quote two words which I'll never forget,
virtually nothing. They then asked him, they said, did you
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even read this thing before you signed it? And he
said no, And they asked him why did you sign it?
And he said because I was ordered to. They then
asked him, in this motion, you accused Beth McCaffrey, former
assistant district attorney and regius prosecutorial misconduct. Is that accusation true?
And he said no, it isn't. So right there he
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blows apart. The case indicates that, you know, the whole
process where they exonerated this guy, let a convicted killer,
undid a jury verdict, let this guy out of jail,
gave him a lottery ticket so we could sue the
city and hit the lottery. It's corrupt from start to finish.
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And they kept telling, you know, for five years, they
were telling McCaffrey and then in the last three years
Judge Coyle that they couldn't find her files, that they
were missing. And Judge Coyle finally said, I don't believe
for a minute that these files are missing. I believe
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that you guys deliberately got rid of them or destroyed them.
And so that's why she fined them one hundred and
twenty thousand dollars, said they had unfairly maligned, you know,
with Ada McCaffrey. And that's that's when she sent the
entire department to an ethics seminar to be taught by
the State Disciplinary Board. Because there's no ethics in Larry
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Krasner's office now.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
And they lack candor. Well, Ralph, here's the thing, and
this and capit leaks and capsule leak's Krasner's District Attorney's
office and the release of the murders. And Judge Coyle
knows this. You know, in law enforcement, you know, you
have this term called flight. It's consciousness of guilt.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
So when Beth first acts Larry for her file, knowing
that everything was in there, Larry fled, Vochi fled. They
knew they were guilty before mister Patterson got that one
point seven million. They knew they was guilty before they
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released mister Patterson. And now let me pull up perjury.
Just here, perjury, and it's crimes Cod. Forty nine oh two.
A person is guilty of perjury a felony of the
third degree if in any official proceeding, he makes a
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false statement under oath or equivalent affirmation, or swears or
affirms the truth of a statement previously made when the
statement is material and he does not believe it to
be true. And the reason I wanted to you route.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
That sounds like what happened with mister voci Uh.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
And it sounds like what he admitted to.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
Yes, yes, you know. You don't usually get into admission
and in something like this, And the other thing I'd
like to point out is in this case that was
in front of Judge Coyle that started over a right
to know request that Larry denied Judge Coyle when she
kept hearing that these documents were missing, missing, missing, year
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after year. When she started holding evidentiary hearings on this matter,
she ordered Patricia Cummings, the former head of Krasner's ironically
named conviction Integrity Unit, to change you know in quotes,
to come into court and explain what happened to the
missing files since she was the last one that had them.
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And Uh first comings said yes, I'll come into court.
Then Cummings told the DA's office she had misgivings about
coming to court. Then Cummings wouldn't answer their phone calls anymore,
and a criminal defense lawyer from Texas, where Ms Cummings
resides UH called the DA's office and UH and the
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defense lawyers and told them, Hey, she's not coming in
and if she does, if you force her to come in,
she's gonna end up pleading the fifth Now we're talking
about an appeal of her right to know request. It
was the last time he needed a criminal defense lawyer
to represent you in the appeal of her right to
know request?
Speaker 1 (39:39):
Well, was that the same lawyer who represented her when
when she let her client go to jail in Texas?
Speaker 2 (39:44):
I don't know that.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
I don't know. Yeah, but here's the thing, Ralph. Two
things happened there that judgment am recall didn't bring up
and what had to happen Commings was scheduled to testify.
Everyone was I think Kraft has stated at a press conference,
what's the question? So why all of a sudden did
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Comings decide not to? She shouldn't. She shouldn't have been
able to know what was going on in the courtroom,
So she should have just walked in. You know why?
She knew what Volch said, so once she would have
got there one I would have had to go to
jail because she would have had to go up there
and say, well, I never told VOCHI to sign off
on this, and Volture already said you did, well, I
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didn't write this, well, Voch she said you did.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
Yeah, who wrote it? He said, Patricia Cummings And she
wanted me to sign it and.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
She she couldn't testify, Ralph, Yeah, yeah, you couldn't. Got
to go to jail.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
And this is the gal who's the head of hilarious
conviction Integrity.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
She's ahead of it, and now she's somewhere else in
some sort of innocent project nationally. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's
why they have to go to jail, Ralph.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
And you know John Dillager's specialty was robbing banks. Patricia
Cummings has another specialty getting convicted killers out of jail
who subsequently quent me cash. And I want to talk
about the money angles. Yes, you know, you know, Jake,
you've been good in outlining the criminal law, the laws
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that are being broken here. But I just want to
talk about this from a taxpayer's point of view, since
I happen to be one of the idiots that hasn't
left yet and is holding the bag in the lovely
City of Philadelphia, our greater of democracy. The first twenty
two guys to hit the lottery during while Larry Krasner's
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been DA since twenty eighteen, they claimed they were wrongly convicted.
They have stolen from the City of Philadelphia's treasury thanks
to wimp asses like Jim Kenny and our city solicitors
who rolled over every time you know, somebody came knocking
on the door. The first twenty two guys to hit
the lottery walked out the door with eighty four point
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five million dollars. At a press conference last month, Larry
Krasty was telling us that a big priority in his
third term as DA, which he's running for on May twentieth,
the Democratic Primary, is that he's going to expand his
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Conviction Integrity Unit, because Jake, this is going to really
shock you. I think they have a backlog of more
than a thousand criminals who claimed that they were wrongly convicted,
and Larry says it's his main priority to investigate all
these cases. Now, can you imagine another one thousand clowns
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down at the payout window at the City Solicitor's office.
They're going to bankrupt the city.
Speaker 1 (42:44):
Well, let me tell you what happened, Rob, how that
came about and which I'm sure you have a lot
of sources. Well, let me tell you what Larry actually
did in that Conviction Integrity Unit Especial Investigation Unit. They
actually went to the prisons and sought out these people.
They are criminals in the prison that said that they
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were sought out by Larry Krasner's District Attorney's office for
this very thing. And one of the criterias, wow and
ambulance chaser when he was a criminal. Well here here's
what he's doing. He's sitting back. If you have a
case I want to say, I want to say the
time frame. If your case was like ten to fifteen
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years old, Yeah, then he wanted you because if the
detectives were retired or dead, then they can't come back.
In this most recent case that you just wrote about.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
We got to talk about that. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:41):
Did you bring this up, the one where it says that.
Speaker 2 (43:46):
Jerry Anthony Right of rape and burn. By the way, Jake,
when I was watching this that ugly tie that Anthony
Wright's gone on, I actually had I had that exact
same time there used to be a large men's store
down in South Philly, and I'm sure what was it. Yeah, yeah,
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the big and tall place. I went in my closet
and through that time as soon as I saw.
Speaker 1 (44:17):
Maybe Larry gout that you saw it after the fact, Okay, never.
Speaker 2 (44:21):
All right, we got to talk about this case.
Speaker 1 (44:24):
Yeah, but real quick, I want you to get into it.
The only reason you could probably bring it up also
that he was even able to go after your sky
devilin and Santiago. Yeah, it's because they came back. They
knew what they did was correct, if they would have
never came back and for this seventy seven year old
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rape and murder victim, Yeah, Louise Polly, So go ahead,
ro talk about it.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
Well, Jake, I'm sure you know the principles in this
case and you probably know the events of this case.
But in a nutshell, Larry wasn't happy with merely exonerating
convicted killers. He decided that in the case of Anthony Right,
who was a convicted killer who was retried and found innocent,
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he wanted to charge the detectives that worked the case.
Is now, this is a thirty four year old case,
right nineteen ninety one, thirty four years old. He rolled
back thirty four years. He charged these three detectives they
were retired. One's eighty one, the other seventy seven, the
other seventy five. They should be home playing with their grandchildren.
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He charged three of them with perjury. He specifically said
that they coerced a false confession on of Anthony Wright, who,
by the way, I wouldn't trust him no matter what
he said, and either of the jury. But yeah, they
claimed that he Anthony Wright, he was coerced into giving
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a AALL's convection confession where he admitted that he raped
the seventy seven year old widow and church lady and
then he stabbed her to death, stabbed her ten times
while he was laying on top of him. So and
then he not only that, but Larry charged the police
with planting evidence in Anthony Wright's bedroom. And the evidence
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was a set of bloody clothes. And in the most
ludicrous part of this case, the clothes the police said
the clothes belonged to Anthony Wright, and they found them
in Anthony Right's bedroom. Larry's version of the case, and
once again this guy is used to coming up with
kakamene theories that he doesn't have to prove in court,
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and this time one of his, one of his kakameney berries,
went before a jury and they rejected every ward of it.
But he Larry's version of the case was the clothes,
the bloody clothes that were found didn't belong to Anthony
or the killer. They belonged to the victim, Louise Tally,
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the seventy seven year old church lady. And he said
that Larry's theory of the case was that the detectives
stole the bloody clothes from Louise Tally's house where the
murder and rape were done, and they planted them in
Anthony Wright's bedroom. Now, the story is so ludicrous because,
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first of all, Ystreevsky was the guy charged with the planting,
and the day he did this, there were eight witnesses
in the case, including a guy from Wright's family and
Wright's own mother that went with him and was in
the room when they discovered the clothes that were under
were tucked into Anthony Wright's bed. But the most ludicrous
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part of the case, we're talking about a bloody Chicago
Bulls sweatshirt extra large hoodie. We're talking about a pair
of black Sway jeans which Jake I had to strain
my memory on that. Did you ever wear black Swede jeans?
Speaker 1 (48:06):
I didn't and I was, you know.
Speaker 2 (48:08):
Yeah anyway while you're hitting the discos.
Speaker 1 (48:10):
But yeah, I'm assuming it's the one with the with
the patches the Swede on the front of the jeans
like in the thigh.
Speaker 2 (48:16):
Eric mcgahead, Yeah, that you're a correct size thirty six
waist and a pair of Fela black shoes sneakers size eleven.
And they're claiming that those were not worn by Anthony Wright.
They were worn by the victim, Louise tally Well. Louise
Talley's niece came and testified in the twenty sixteen retrial
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and she said by aunt, Aunt Louise was a church lady.
She she always wore skirts or dresses and I told
her she could wear pants suits. She said, oh, no,
pants are for men. And they asked her would she
ever wear a Chicago bul sweatshirt?
Speaker 1 (48:55):
No way?
Speaker 2 (48:56):
Would she ever wear, you know, black swayed jeans, no way?
Would you ever wear feel of sneak airs? No way?
And Anthony right on the witness stand. This is first
of all, Anthony Wright was the star witness in Larry's
crackpot universe. This convicted killer and rapist was his star witness.
He put him on the stand. Brian mcmonacle, who was
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the one of the lawyers for the detectives, destroyed this guy.
It was a complete and utter destruction on the story
that you'll see on my website. I called it the
train wreck in courtroom eight o two and Anthony Right
on the witness stand said those couldn't have been my sneakers.
I'm only a size nine and a half. Now, the
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guy weys you know, close to you got to be
kidding me, and he insisted that he only wore a
size nine and a half. Well mcmonacal and Perry, Fred Perry.
They subpoened the commissary records for the prison that Right
was in shoes size was either eleven and a half
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or twelve. So on the witness dand Right looked like
the proverbial deer in the headlights. The jury completely in
sixteen of the thirteen of the sixteen charges brought by
Larry Krasner, the jury voted not guilty. The only three
they caught him on were alleged fibbs that the detectives
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told against DNA evidence. According to the judge blew the case,
the three convictions should never happen. According to the law
about perjury, if you're going to perjure yourself, you got
to perjure yourself over something that's material. And yeah, so
whatever the detectives had to say about what the Ada
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bridget Kerrent told him about DNA, who gives a crack
It didn't matter in the criminal case right when he
was retried in twenty sixteen, he was acquitted. And in
the civil case where they gave depositions where they mentioned
that he got nine point eight million dollars, So you know,
how is that important? How is that material? So anyhow,
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this was just a complete repudiation of Larry Krasner's crack
pot exonerations and you know, bogus indictments of police. So
it's just it's just there were there were four different
forms in the city in March, one month out of
the year where Larry the corruption and incompetence that Larry
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Krasner was exposed and involved a federal court judge, Judge
Slapsky in the Bolognia case and involved Amory Coyle in
the Beth McCaffrey Right to Know appeal case, and involved
the State Supreme Court hearing testimony about what to do
about Larry Krasner who waves the white surrender flag when
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one hundred convicted killers wanted to get out of jail
or off death row. It's just it's just amazing to
me that this man is instill in office and we
don't have the mayor on down screaming for his resignation
because it's complete and utter corruption has been exposed. Well, right,
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we'll see you on that one.
Speaker 1 (52:16):
Well, you just said that, and when we come back,
I want to play you asking Larry the question.
Speaker 2 (52:23):
But you better play it now because I don't think
we're coming back.
Speaker 1 (52:26):
Okay, well if if we do, because our friends we
aren't there. But here's my question to you. Do we
know the window because I know that Vochi was in
Krasna were trying to go after me and my partner
during this same twenty eighteen May twenty eighteen time period.
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See when they went in there. Once they got rid
of thirty one DA's, they want to destroying those homicide
files to make a bunch of money. Yep, we know, yes,
do we have a wind do because if VOCHI said
that regarding UH said that regarding Anthony, right, I mean, yeah,
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I think it was it, and I'm sorry mister Patterson.
Speaker 2 (53:15):
Patterson. Yeah. Then the first one they did it was
early in it was.
Speaker 1 (53:21):
Right, that was that was May. But they had a
Larry went in there. Larry did all this in the
first three days. He started doing it. Three things I
know Larry Krasner did before January fifth or before January seventh,
let's just round it up. He tried to get me
and my partner removed. He took the Ryan Panell filed back,
and he released or fired thirty one prosecutors. That was
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all done within the first seven days of Larry Krashner's tenure.
That's why I say all this was premeditated. He had
a case and Vochie was overheard, and he couldn't get
Jacobs in his part partner because the case was airtight.
And this was a case where a guy blew his
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four year old daughter's brings out while she was watching SpongeBob.
These are the people you got, seventy seven year old
miss Tally, you got baby baby Barbara Jean four year
old rape. You had this. He doesn't care in the
case you talked about, when we talked about Chief Judge,
Federal Court Judge Michel Goldberg, this was a person who
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killed a preacher's son, his wife and left their daughter
to die in a reason four months old, right, so
to die in a freezing house.
Speaker 2 (54:43):
They stole their crip before they left. They stole he crip.
Speaker 1 (54:47):
And literally want this guy back out on the street.
You know why, Yeah, use this turn of recidivism. You know,
whatever the case may be, he wants to regurgitate the
murderers and Lucky, every every trial, every last one of
them that looked into Larry Krashner's actions regarding these exonerations
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has all found that he lacks candor. And that's their
famous legal mumbo jumble. Let's talk into a language that
all people understand. That's someone going into a court and
lying to the court. It's a blatant lie and it
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should be perjury. It should be a red perjury. A
rat pursurd is a founder of the third degree. Why
hasn't Voce been charged. He just sent detective James Pitts
to jail for six years with the same crap, But
a lad's perjury, So why is vote cheaper than or
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we gotta go and break guys and we'll we'll see
you in a minute.
Speaker 2 (55:59):
Maybe maybe
Okay, guys, it's search warrant detective Jake Jacobs along with
my co host today Ralph Cipriano of Big Trial. If
you notice someone's missing, it's our fearless leader, John Snedton.
So yeah, we had to let him go for the day.
(01:16):
You know, we sent them off, We sent them packing
for a little while. And behind the scenes we have
detective and a mid lard. So me and Ralph were
going to sit back and hopefully get through this without
any type of supervision. And one of the guys that
we're going to be talking about, of course, since it's
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me and Ralph, is the guy who knows we're going
to be talking about him. He has his head down
behind Ralph Cipriano. And that's of course, the corrupt criminal
District Attorney Philadelphia District Attorney Larry Krastner, that's behind He's
right behind you, Ralph. I mean, he must know you're
going to talk about him, because evidently over the past
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several weeks you've been missing us, We've been missing you
because you've been stracking all them. I don't what do
you want to call it, Ralph. I mean, you've been
tracking this criminal down for the last few weeks and
nothing seems to be going his way. So let's you
want to start with Vocchi or you want to start
with the judge and go back. So you want to
start with voch and go forward.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Well, jump in at any time, Jake, Wow, Am I
getting the that comor are you getting in that com?
Speaker 1 (02:27):
No? You're fine?
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Okay, all right, let me tone this down a little
on my own value. I've been away because I've been
in court. There's been one hearing after another involving Larry Krasner,
and the first one was held by the State Supreme
Court in a rare king's bench petition. They don't take
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these very often. They're only filed in terms of extraordinary
situations where you know, the legal system of the common
Wealth is being is in jeopardy. And in the case
that the State Supreme Court heard, it was filed by
the families of two murder victims of an exonerated killer
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that Larry Krasner let out of jail. And the interesting
thing about this case is it challenges the method that
Larry Krasner pulls off forty five to fifty exonerations. And
basically what happens is the criminal defense lawyer comes forward
and says, hey, my client, the convicted killer, deserves to
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get out of jail because of egregious misconduct conducted by
either the police and or the prosecutors. And after the
criminal defense lawyer makes that those allegations, instead of having
to prove them in court, Larry Krasner, like the lying
dog that he is, just lies down and agrees and
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basically concedes arguments, concedes that there was indeed police and
or prosecutorial misconduct, and then they go into court and
in a joint stipulation they ask a judge to let
a guy go free. And they have done this more
than one hundred times in The main witness that appeared
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to testify in front of the state's highest court was
the chief Deputy Attorney General of the state and the
attorney General was asked by the state Supreme Court to
come in as a friend of the court and do
some investigating into what Krasner's doing. And the guy who
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testified on behalf of the state attorney General's office is
chief Deputy Assistant Attorney General Ron Eisenberg, who is one
of the finest lawyers in the state. And Eisenberg basically
told the state's highest court that there is no way
to figure out exactly how many times Krasner has laid
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down in court and let a convicted killer either out
of jail or off death row, because the records disappear
quickly and they just can't even keep up with it. However,
the Eisenberg, the Deputy Attorney General Chief Deputy Attorney General,
was willing to say to the court, and he filed
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reports that backed it up that he had tracked one
hundred and eight cases appeals by convicted killers where Krasner
has just simply laid down and said, you know, yeah,
there was prosecutorial and or police misconduct in this case,
so we're going to let your guy either out of
jail or off death row. And basically Eisenberg's argument to
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the court was that you can't trust Larry Krasner when
he makes these concessions because in every case where they
have been tested, either by a judge you insists on
a holding and having jerry hearing or somebody looks into
it or whatever, his concessions had been proven to be
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problematic and basically not true. So you know, there for
two hours, the State Supreme Court held the hearing and said,
what do we do about a district attorney who won't
do his job, won't stand up for crime victims, won't
protect public safety in more than a hundred cases involving
convicted killers. What do we do about this guy? And
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the AG's office is basically saying Krasner won't hold an
evident Charry hearing, then you've got an order one and
will do the investigating. We'll have to take up for
Larry and play the part of prosecutor in this case,
because Larry's just another defense lawyer. So it's an extraordinary case.
I think, you know, all the justices seemed concerned about
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what's going on in Philadelphia. My favorite part of the
story was this was a two hour hearing, you know,
extremely unusual. All that's Philadelphia City Hall. The Philadelphia Inquirer's
office is eight tenths of a mile away, and they've
got two hundred reporters at their disposal and they didn't
send one down to cover this hearing. So that tells
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you where these you know, where we are in criminal
justice in Philadelphia and where we are in media responsibility.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
So Chris Palmer and Samantha Mella meat wasn't available to
go cover Larry Krasner. Is I mean they always cover
Larry Krasn. They couldn't get down there for that one.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Rough, Well, they only do puff pieces about Larry Krassner.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Jake.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
You know that's how it works. You've seen these guys
in action. So, and that was just the start. That
was one of four different legal venues in Philadelphia in
just one month March of twenty twenty five, where Larry
Krasner's corruption in confidence was exposed. And we can go
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through the other three venues.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Yeah, before we come to the other ones, I want
to touch back on this one because if Eisenberg, who
represents the Attorney General's office or the state so to speak,
if he has to go through and act as the prosecutor,
then is Larry Krasner acting as a defense attorney in
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this thing? Because Larry is the one who's finding all
this alleged egregious prosecutorial misconduct when he's not actually telling
the lie Ralph. Because there is egregious proscctural mist conduct,
it's just that Larry is the person that's committing it.
To sad. Yes, So when Eisenberg comes into the courtroom
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and let's just say, because I didn't notice until I
think one of the articles, who was one of my
favorite jedge least I I kind of like testifying with him.
This is the this is the next case, this is
the most recent case that that we're going to touch
on in a minute. I didn't know the judge Bronson.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Was, uh.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Was on the State Supreme Court now and he's one
of the most fairest stern Now, don't get me wrong,
he's sterned. He runs a tight ship in his courtroom,
at least when I was there, he did. And it's
someone like him, a no nasense type of jurist that
I like seeing on the State Supreme Court. And I
think he knows because he was a homicide judge. I
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think he knows of Larry's Shenanigan because a lot of
these cases that he that Larry maybe saying, are there's
something wrong with either a Judge Bronson or Judge Sandy
Bird or someone like that, or Judge Barbara McDermott. They
presided over these cases. So what you're doing, you're questioning
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a way they called balls and strikes and a lot
the evidence in their courtroom. So this guy, I think
he's in the world of hurt and Honestly, Ralph, I've
been thinking lately because we got to look into this.
We need to look into charging Larry. Not because you
know I'm you very well know. I'm working on the
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criminal complaints with the AG's in the US Attorney and
hopefully I'll be getting that done soon. But we need
to start looking at Larry for actually committing premeditated murder,
because all of his actions were premeditated. Rather it's attacking
police or getting rid of the prosecutors when you first
got there, or when he first got there three days
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later he released thirty one fire.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
What you have chronicles the most senior guy in office.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Not only that, they were homicide prosecutors. So it wasn't
it like there wasn't homicide trials in the hopper? M
What did you have to What did you do with
those homicide trials? You had to get a rookie up
the snuff on a homicide chial has been one or
two years old and had to get go to trial.
This is the kind of acts that we'll get into
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this next article, Shanella, the Paratrot article that Judge Dugan
is talking about. Tell us about your thing at this
little candidate's form with Judge Dugen.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Huh, well poor. You know, first of all, the city
of Philadelphia is pathetic. I mean, if we had a
functioning democracy, Larry Krasner would be under siege. People would
be standing in line, both the public officials and the
media calling on him to resign. But you know, we
had several candidates back out of the Democratic primary who
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were thinking about challenging him. The only one who jumped
in was the president of the municipal Court, Pat Dugan,
who's sort of a political down uh and he's uh,
he doesn't have much rain name recognition, and it's certainly
an uphill battle against a guy named, you know, guy
like Larry who's a two term uh uh, you know,
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incumbent and has friends like George Sorows. But the Republicans
couldn't even find a candidate to run. So it just
I don't know. Dugan's doing his best. I followed him
to two candidates forums, and I spent a lot of
time recording all of the race baiting and outright line
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that Larry Krasner engaged in. He Krasner is truly, you know,
just two complete liars, And go ahead, no, no, no, no, no, no,
please feel free to inter but he you know, it's
just disgrace what's going on there. But when you were
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talking about judges that you respect, made me immediately think
of Judge Slomsky.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Well, just it's it's funny how the Lord works. You know,
this country need to get back of God because he
works in mysterious ways, which seems like we seem to
be tethering ourselves away from. But anyway, Judge Joel Slompsky,
you know, people at least in the federal District court
circuit seemed that when I was coming after Judge Harvey Bardell,
it was because I was some sort of novice Jewish
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attorney that didn't know when people were committing egregious judicial
this is the big Yeah, so what he's doing, you
can leave that there, because that's what hopefully in a
couple of months Larry have his head like that. Judge
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Slompsky was a judge on one of my other federal
court trials, and what he did was he let me
know that he was monitoringteam my other case involving Krasner,
because he knew that I was the same plain. But
he didn't want it to leak over into that trial.
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But he was fair. You know, I didn't like all
his rulers because a lot of went against me, most
of them went against me, but he heard me out
before he made his rulings. So when you got into
the one where I believe it's Joe Bologna's case in
my correct yes, yes, So when you got into inspected
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Joe Bologna, who this guy illegally violated his constitutional rights
and arrested for doing nothing but his job, which is
another pattern in practice of Krassners. You know, when he
sat back and finally let Brian Lynz, George poketto, Gavin Lynch,
Jeff Agron and the lights at Bulqueto and Lentz, when
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he finally let them pierce that absolute immunity veil that
Krasner has been hiding behind when he's not acting as
a prosecutor but an investigator. Because one of the things
you brought up when you talk about Eisenberg and how
this guy's turned the criminal justice system on his ears
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by acting as both the DA and the defense attorney
and making money off of this is that's the same
thing he's doing in the investigator states he wanted to
be the prosecutor for immunity purposes, but he's the only
one in that corrupt conviction Integrity Unit and Special Investigations
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Unit at the District Attorney's office are the only ones
doing any investigations. So the law is clear, if you're
acting as an investigator, you are not entitled to absolute immunity.
And that's what Brian and George and Jeff and Gavin
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so arearticularly argued in front of Judge Slamsky, which is
why they don't have absolute munity. And we'll see their
response to the city's motional crashing emotions to dismiss I
think the next filing is due on April y eight,
so we'll see in about six days how they argue
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that point, on how Krasy got out of that point.
Because as once again, Ralph, you chronicled us very well,
Joe Bologna, as everyone stated, was a victim of an
assault and a robbery. Joe Bologna did not strike anyone
in the head. Tracy Tripp, Jerry Rocks, Larry Krasner, Patricia Cummings,
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and everyone else in that office conspired and tried to
get the medical examiner, uh doctor Dolino yea twice to
change their which I believe because I haven't talked to
doctor Deleno since he left the medical Exammler's office, But
I believe that was the catapult to him leaving the
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medical teams off. He's been there forever. He loved his job,
and that I think he's teaching somewhere in DC. I'm
not one hundred percent sure exactly where he's at, but
this is the kind of corruption in a type of
scum that follows like Krashma, where he causes good people
to flee not only public service, but the city entirely.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Well, yeah, that's an excellent point. So this is a
false and malicious prosecution case. Staff Inspector Joe Bologna was
charged with striking a protester while actually a rioter in
the head with his metal baton, causing a wound that
was two inches long and needed ten stables and a
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bunch of stitches to close. That's the case that Larry
Krasner filed against it. There's a thirty six second video
of the event, and the video clearly shows that Bologna
does not strike the protester or the rioter on the
head that he strikes him on a backpack that's on
the guy's shoulder, which according to Department in Philadelphia police regulations,
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is an acceptable use of force, especially when you consider
the circumstances that Joe Bologna was under. And I think, Jake,
you can described us better than yep. Do we lose, Jack, Jake,
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we can't hear you, Jake, go ahead and describe. Yeah,
there's this still of the There is photographic proof Bologna
is striking him on the back. That's a shoulder, that's
a backpack that he actually hits him on. Jake, you
can tell us what Joe Blogia was trying to do.
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Don't forget that this protester rioter claimed he was peacefully
protesting and the video shows the exact opposite of that.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Go ahead, j Well, this shows a lot here and
one thing and we'll get into Ama recoil and Judge
mister Goldberg and them later with the candor or lack
thereof from the District Attorney's office. The one thing Judge
Slompsky didn't do is actually tell these guys your liars,
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because with this shows here Ralph, and with the video
showed and the way Judge Slamsky got around calling them liars.
Is he made the statement that he doesn't know, but
he's still gotta wait for these briefs. He doesn't know
if Joe Bologna, based on the District attorney's lack of investigation,
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should have ever been charged. So he's calling them a
liar without calling them a liar, which is good. But
as you can clearly see he here Bologna strikes Gorsky
on that backpack and on the shoulder, which is a
properly perfect legal, an accurate strike, you ask me. But
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what you don't see here in that still frame is
Bologna now has to take his attention off of what
he was doing because of Gorsky, it was effected an
arrest of another person. Gorsky jumps in the frame because
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he's not a protester, he's a rioter. There's a big difference.
Rioting is when two or more people engage in the
course of disorder conduct that's just disorda condo. These people
are actually rioting with masks and other things. So while
Inspector Bologna and other members of the philip Police Department
are trying to affect an arrest of another rioter, Gorsky
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jumps in to protect his rider. Inspector Bologna has to
turn his attention to Gorsky so that the other officers
can affect the arrest. And now he's gonna arrest Gorsky. Well,
they get into a struggle. After this, Gorsky assaults Bologna,
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takes his ass and throws it to other riders. Now
in the direction of other riders. Let me put it
that way, because no other rider picked it up, So
let me keep everything perfect. So what happened there? Oh,
there we go. So that's robbery and that's assault. But
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what the Krasner, Jerry Rocks, Patricia Cummings, and Tracy Tripp do.
They did the same thing they did in the Penel case.
They went and got in touch with Gorsky. They solicited perjury,
and they solicited perjury with the promise of a financial
pay they at early their date.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Which he did. He scored seventy years.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Got one hundred and something thousand dollars. I don't care
if it was a dollar, because most cases, if you
get a dollar, it's considered a win in the court
system if you get awarded one dollar. But he got
one hundred and seventy five or I want to say,
I know it was one hundred and something thousand. I
don't know exact amount off the top of my head. Meanwhile,
you took the criminal, made him a victim, and paid him.
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You took the law enforcement officer, made him a criminal,
turned this up his life upside down for years, and
finally it got tossed out. But with the crash, can
do you know? I don't know if you saw that
video I retweeted yesterday what he said? Matter of fact?
(22:48):
After Bologna one? What did he say? You saw a
Bologna on the cover of the Daily News. This is
not the only time Bologna did something illegal, and it's
not the last time you're going to see belong you
do something illegal. That chows Krasner's You've been around them
more than anyone malice. Yes, you've been around them on anyone. Sadly,
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how many times have you heard Krasner since he's been
here in twenty eighteen, since he's you could probably say
before that, how many times have you heard him take
responsibility of anything?
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Never? Never? The pandemic is you know, when the murder
went from three fifteen to five sixty two from twenty
seventeen to twenty twenty one. Larry Krasner blamed the pandemic.
He blamed the police, he blamed the judges, he blamed
the jurors. He blamed the witnesses for not showing up.
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He blamed poverty, he blamed poor education, he blamed the
lack of recreation programs. He blamed everything on the planet
except his lax policies, which was of evolving door of
justice and then kept releasing people to you know, violent
criminals to commit more crimes. When the murder rate plunged,
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Larry was the first to stand up there and credit
his policies at the DAO for the reduction in the
murder rate. So that's the kind of guy is. And
that's pretty much what Judge Dugan told me. Judge Dugan
as the president of the municipal cord, he sat in
on a bunch of meetings with Krasner, and he said
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Krasner was always passing the buck and blaming everybody else
or whatever went wrong, never accepted responsibility.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
You call these you call these things policies, and I
call them premeditated crimes.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Dugan's theory is premeditated anarchy. He said that that's what
he was doing.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Yeah, it's premeditated crimes. He knew, if you judge Dougan
been around for a minute, I've been around for a minute.
Anybody in law enforcement anywhere. You heard on the news,
from every law enforcement person, from a rookie to someone
who's been retired twenty years. This was expected. But he's
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not doing it for policy purposes or to be that
white savior that he claims to be when he goes
to these stupid people like Jamie Gartier and whoever else,
Reverend Ike at the who formerly was at Bethel A
and Amy. But anyway, he knew because before twenty twenty,
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if you was to make the pandemic the baseline, the
murder rate was still going up, Ralph, it went up
in eighteen, it went up in nineteen, so it was
going up before twenty twenty. He just broke the record,
you know. And he was doing it with Aska leave
Ike Raw, Christopher Narris and everyone else. Black Lives Matter
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for profit, you know, we talk about we'll get into
Shaka Johnson and everything. So it's not policies. These aren't policies.
This guy is in a position, he's the fox in
the henhouse. That's that's where he's at now as a
district attorney.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
I totally agree. Let me let me read your Dugan's
quotes about what it's like to sit in private group
settings with Larry Krasner quote, he's pretty condescending. He's a
pompous jackass who thinks he's the smartest person in the room.
I don't have any respect for the man when he
looks in the mirror. I don't know how he can
sleep at night. How the hell can you be a
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DA without ethics. I think that's a pretty good round up,
don't you well.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Rockie's my problem with this judge Dugan, who Larry tried
to he smirched by saying, he said, I mister demeanor
court instead of the MC court municipal court, you know,
which is where all the courts takes his start. They
all started MC court for the most part, even homicide
to go to the MC court for the preliminaries, which
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is Larry's. Another part of larry scam was to use
these phony investigating grand jury so that he could bypass
someone like Dugan. He can do the bypass the preliminary
hearings and violation of people's rights in Pennsylvania. That's what
he did with Panell, and that's why he got caught,
and that's why he didn't do it with Air. Well.
(27:29):
But one thing and one thing, Ralph, getting back on
this King's Bitch petition when you first talked about it
in Eisenberg here and the releasing of all these murderers
and for payment.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Let's let's get the jail right.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Well, let's get into one of the chief jail breakers
who's been a lawyer for a couple of decades and
the chief of the homicide division for Krasnan. What did
Anthony vote? You say, wild testify.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Well, this is a matter that goes into Judge Coyle's court.
Judge coyl Amory Coyle common please judge, she's the one
who levied one hundred and twenty thousand dollars in fines
against Larry Krasner. Sanctions. She sanctioned his office because of
their behavior in terms of how they treated a former
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prosecutor named Beth McCaffrey. And she ordered the entire Larry
Krasner's entire department, all three hundred lawyers who worked for him,
to take a continuing legal ed class of twelve hours
to be taught by the State Supreme Court's Disciplinary Board
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ons Ethics for Lawyers, ethics for prosecutors, and she wanted
specific emphasis in that class for being candid to the court,
in other words, not lying to judges. So that I mean,
have you ever heard of such a thing, Jacob. I
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think it's unprecedented a judge sanctioning an entire department for
lack of ethics.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Listen, Ralph, it doesn't happen. And you know, it's one
thing to have a coax snort in defense attorney coming
here and a judge knows because his nose is dripping
and saying, hey, you got some ethical issues there, dude,
And you know, maybe refer him to the discipline board
or someone else, or keep it this in my opinion,
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and we can have a couple of other attorneys on
head or later date. I've never seen it. And let's
just say you got one bad DA or two bad
das Ralph, judge and Maricoil said, his whole office, its
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entire office. He's training all you guys to lie. So
we have to purge a lying from your system. If
you guys are going to be officers of the court.
You gotta be held to that high standard, you know,
But Larry's training criminals, Ralph, this has never happened. If
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you can find me, you're out and about, you need
to talk to you.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Ever heard it, Never heard it, Never heard it.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
It's never been heard of. But Ralph, this is why
me and you met. I tried to bring this to
people's attention. From the very beginning. I was I don't
want to say I'm the first one, unfortunately, but in
twenty eighteen when I first well I met you in
twenty nineteen, but in twenty eighteen when I called these
people liars. And we can't just blame it on Larry Krashton.
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We gotta blame it on people like Frank Fenor, people
like Jason Hendershot, people like Robin Wimberley, Rochelle Balive. We
gotta blame it on law enforcement officers too, who knows, oh,
this is occurring and not doing anything about it.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
A lot of judges.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Well I was about to bring up the judges if
Duken said this to you, and he said in private settings,
well that's speak for when a bunch of lawyers are
around at their cocktail party. Everybody know this coppers ass
is sitting around, walking around like he's the smartest thing
in the room, and while he's drinking up everybody's stuff
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and eating up everybody's food, and everybody should be happy
that he was there, but everyone knows he's a liar.
So how do you go back and put back on
your black robe or grab your briefcase and still deal
with this guy knowing that you're dealing with a bunch
of lies? And how do you let one hundred murderers out?
What's worse, Joe Biden letting people across the border to
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kill us, or lad Kras and letting murders out of
jail to rekill us.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
That's a tough one. Jakeold, we should have a poll.
We should duck a poll on.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
We said to a poll. Uh.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
Back to this McCaffrey case. So this is the case
of a convicted killer named Dontiev Patterson, whom Larry's decides
he wants to exonerate. This is Larry's first exoneration, and
he blames the whole thing why they have to let
this guy out of jail, but of course never approve
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anything at court. On a prosecutor named Beth McCaffrey and
another prosecutor named Richie Sacks, and he claims that because
of egregious prosecutorial misconduct, we have no choice but to
let mister Patterson lose. Mister Patterson promptly turns around and
sues the city. And I believe what was it, Jake
one point? Yeah. Anyhow, so Beth McCaffrey is pissed off
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and she's so she goes in and this whole thing
starts with the right to know request. She asked Larry
Larry's office to hand her back her homicide files. He says,
if you produce those files, you'll see that every piece
of exculpatory evidence, evidence that may tend to exonerate the
defendant that you're accusing me of of not turning over
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to the defense layers. If you produce my files, you'll
see that I wrote memos to these defense lawyers containing
the exculpatory information, every piece of info that you've accused
me of withholding. You'll see that I sent faxes to
these defense layers and individual memorandas about every piece of
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exculpatory evidence I was turning over, and then my files
I would put in every facts confirmation sheet that I
got that the facts was delivered and the defense lawyers
got that information. So what does Krasner do. He turns
down a request to see her own files, which she
says will defend her reputation. So she files an appeal
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and we're right to know her quest. And this goes
on for five years and it eventually ends up in
Judge Anne Marie Coyle's court and judge where am Marie
Coil starts holding evidentiary earings. And this is where, you know,
they bring in Anthony Vogie, who was at the time
that mister Patterson was let loose. He was the head
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of homicide. He's the guy who went into court and
presented the emotion and argued for it to be accepted
that turned Patterson loose because of the egregious prosecutory of Wiscondin.
And so when Vochi gets on the stand, they ask him,
you know, well, gee, when you file emotion and you
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sign it with your name under penalty of perjury, you're
telling a judge that you investigated every fact in here
and found it was true. Mister Vocchi, what what you know?
How much investigating did you do before you sign this
motion and is quote two words which I'll never forget,
virtually nothing. They then asked him, they said, did you
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even read this thing before you signed it? And he
said no, And they asked him why did you sign it?
And he said because I was ordered to. They then
asked him, in this motion, you accused Beth McCaffrey, former
assistant district attorney and regius prosecutorial misconduct. Is that accusation true?
And he said no, it isn't. So right there he
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blows apart. The case indicates that, you know, the whole
process where they exonerated this guy, let a convicted killer,
undid a jury verdict, let this guy out of jail,
gave him a lottery ticket so we could sue the
city and hit the lottery. It's corrupt from start to finish.
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And they kept telling, you know, for five years, they
were telling McCaffrey and then in the last three years
Judge Coyle that they couldn't find her files, that they
were missing. And Judge Coyle finally said, I don't believe
for a minute that these files are missing. I believe
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that you guys deliberately got rid of them or destroyed them.
And so that's why she fined them one hundred and
twenty thousand dollars, said they had unfairly maligned, you know,
with Ada McCaffrey. And that's that's when she sent the
entire department to an ethics seminar to be taught by
the State Disciplinary Board. Because there's no ethics in Larry
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Krasner's office now.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
And they lack candor. Well, Ralph, here's the thing, and
this and capit leaks and capsule leak's Krasner's District Attorney's
office and the release of the murders. And Judge Coyle
knows this. You know, in law enforcement, you know, you
have this term called flight. It's consciousness of guilt.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
So when Beth first acts Larry for her file, knowing
that everything was in there, Larry fled, Vochi fled. They
knew they were guilty before mister Patterson got that one
point seven million. They knew they was guilty before they
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released mister Patterson. And now let me pull up perjury.
Just here, perjury, and it's crimes Cod. Forty nine oh two.
A person is guilty of perjury a felony of the
third degree if in any official proceeding, he makes a
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false statement under oath or equivalent affirmation, or swears or
affirms the truth of a statement previously made when the
statement is material and he does not believe it to
be true. And the reason I wanted to you route.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
That sounds like what happened with mister voci Uh.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
And it sounds like what he admitted to.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
Yes, yes, you know. You don't usually get into admission
and in something like this, And the other thing I'd
like to point out is in this case that was
in front of Judge Coyle that started over a right
to know request that Larry denied Judge Coyle when she
kept hearing that these documents were missing, missing, missing, year
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after year. When she started holding evidentiary hearings on this matter,
she ordered Patricia Cummings, the former head of Krasner's ironically
named conviction Integrity Unit, to change you know in quotes,
to come into court and explain what happened to the
missing files since she was the last one that had them.
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And Uh first comings said yes, I'll come into court.
Then Cummings told the DA's office she had misgivings about
coming to court. Then Cummings wouldn't answer their phone calls anymore,
and a criminal defense lawyer from Texas, where Ms Cummings
resides UH called the DA's office and UH and the
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defense lawyers and told them, Hey, she's not coming in
and if she does, if you force her to come in,
she's gonna end up pleading the fifth Now we're talking
about an appeal of her right to know request. It
was the last time he needed a criminal defense lawyer
to represent you in the appeal of her right to
know request?
Speaker 1 (39:39):
Well, was that the same lawyer who represented her when
when she let her client go to jail in Texas?
Speaker 2 (39:44):
I don't know that.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
I don't know. Yeah, but here's the thing, Ralph. Two
things happened there that judgment am recall didn't bring up
and what had to happen Commings was scheduled to testify.
Everyone was I think Kraft has stated at a press conference,
what's the question? So why all of a sudden did
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Comings decide not to? She shouldn't. She shouldn't have been
able to know what was going on in the courtroom,
So she should have just walked in. You know why?
She knew what Volch said, so once she would have
got there one I would have had to go to
jail because she would have had to go up there
and say, well, I never told VOCHI to sign off
on this, and Volture already said you did, well, I
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didn't write this, well, Voch she said you did.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
Yeah, who wrote it? He said, Patricia Cummings And she
wanted me to sign it and.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
She she couldn't testify, Ralph, Yeah, yeah, you couldn't. Got
to go to jail.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
And this is the gal who's the head of hilarious
conviction Integrity.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
She's ahead of it, and now she's somewhere else in
some sort of innocent project nationally. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's
why they have to go to jail, Ralph.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
And you know John Dillager's specialty was robbing banks. Patricia
Cummings has another specialty getting convicted killers out of jail
who subsequently quent me cash. And I want to talk
about the money angles. Yes, you know, you know, Jake,
you've been good in outlining the criminal law, the laws
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that are being broken here. But I just want to
talk about this from a taxpayer's point of view, since
I happen to be one of the idiots that hasn't
left yet and is holding the bag in the lovely
City of Philadelphia, our greater of democracy. The first twenty
two guys to hit the lottery during while Larry Krasner's
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been DA since twenty eighteen, they claimed they were wrongly convicted.
They have stolen from the City of Philadelphia's treasury thanks
to wimp asses like Jim Kenny and our city solicitors
who rolled over every time you know, somebody came knocking
on the door. The first twenty two guys to hit
the lottery walked out the door with eighty four point
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five million dollars. At a press conference last month, Larry
Krasty was telling us that a big priority in his
third term as DA, which he's running for on May twentieth,
the Democratic Primary, is that he's going to expand his
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Conviction Integrity Unit, because Jake, this is going to really
shock you. I think they have a backlog of more
than a thousand criminals who claimed that they were wrongly convicted,
and Larry says it's his main priority to investigate all
these cases. Now, can you imagine another one thousand clowns
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down at the payout window at the City Solicitor's office.
They're going to bankrupt the city.
Speaker 1 (42:44):
Well, let me tell you what happened, Rob, how that
came about and which I'm sure you have a lot
of sources. Well, let me tell you what Larry actually
did in that Conviction Integrity Unit Especial Investigation Unit. They
actually went to the prisons and sought out these people.
They are criminals in the prison that said that they
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were sought out by Larry Krasner's District Attorney's office for
this very thing. And one of the criterias, wow and
ambulance chaser when he was a criminal. Well here here's
what he's doing. He's sitting back. If you have a
case I want to say, I want to say the
time frame. If your case was like ten to fifteen
(43:26):
years old, Yeah, then he wanted you because if the
detectives were retired or dead, then they can't come back.
In this most recent case that you just wrote about.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
We got to talk about that. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:41):
Did you bring this up, the one where it says that.
Speaker 2 (43:46):
Jerry Anthony Right of rape and burn. By the way, Jake,
when I was watching this that ugly tie that Anthony
Wright's gone on, I actually had I had that exact
same time there used to be a large men's store
down in South Philly, and I'm sure what was it. Yeah, yeah,
(44:09):
the big and tall place. I went in my closet
and through that time as soon as I saw.
Speaker 1 (44:17):
Maybe Larry gout that you saw it after the fact, Okay, never.
Speaker 2 (44:21):
All right, we got to talk about this case.
Speaker 1 (44:24):
Yeah, but real quick, I want you to get into it.
The only reason you could probably bring it up also
that he was even able to go after your sky
devilin and Santiago. Yeah, it's because they came back. They
knew what they did was correct, if they would have
never came back and for this seventy seven year old
(44:45):
rape and murder victim, Yeah, Louise Polly, So go ahead,
ro talk about it.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
Well, Jake, I'm sure you know the principles in this
case and you probably know the events of this case.
But in a nutshell, Larry wasn't happy with merely exonerating
convicted killers. He decided that in the case of Anthony Right,
who was a convicted killer who was retried and found innocent,
(45:15):
he wanted to charge the detectives that worked the case.
Is now, this is a thirty four year old case,
right nineteen ninety one, thirty four years old. He rolled
back thirty four years. He charged these three detectives they
were retired. One's eighty one, the other seventy seven, the
other seventy five. They should be home playing with their grandchildren.
(45:37):
He charged three of them with perjury. He specifically said
that they coerced a false confession on of Anthony Wright, who,
by the way, I wouldn't trust him no matter what
he said, and either of the jury. But yeah, they
claimed that he Anthony Wright, he was coerced into giving
(45:59):
a AALL's convection confession where he admitted that he raped
the seventy seven year old widow and church lady and
then he stabbed her to death, stabbed her ten times
while he was laying on top of him. So and
then he not only that, but Larry charged the police
with planting evidence in Anthony Wright's bedroom. And the evidence
(46:23):
was a set of bloody clothes. And in the most
ludicrous part of this case, the clothes the police said
the clothes belonged to Anthony Wright, and they found them
in Anthony Right's bedroom. Larry's version of the case, and
once again this guy is used to coming up with
kakamene theories that he doesn't have to prove in court,
(46:44):
and this time one of his, one of his kakameney berries,
went before a jury and they rejected every ward of it.
But he Larry's version of the case was the clothes,
the bloody clothes that were found didn't belong to Anthony
or the killer. They belonged to the victim, Louise Tally,
(47:05):
the seventy seven year old church lady. And he said
that Larry's theory of the case was that the detectives
stole the bloody clothes from Louise Tally's house where the
murder and rape were done, and they planted them in
Anthony Wright's bedroom. Now, the story is so ludicrous because,
(47:26):
first of all, Ystreevsky was the guy charged with the planting,
and the day he did this, there were eight witnesses
in the case, including a guy from Wright's family and
Wright's own mother that went with him and was in
the room when they discovered the clothes that were under
were tucked into Anthony Wright's bed. But the most ludicrous
(47:47):
part of the case, we're talking about a bloody Chicago
Bulls sweatshirt extra large hoodie. We're talking about a pair
of black Sway jeans which Jake I had to strain
my memory on that. Did you ever wear black Swede jeans?
Speaker 1 (48:06):
I didn't and I was, you know.
Speaker 2 (48:08):
Yeah anyway while you're hitting the discos.
Speaker 1 (48:10):
But yeah, I'm assuming it's the one with the with
the patches the Swede on the front of the jeans
like in the thigh.
Speaker 2 (48:16):
Eric mcgahead, Yeah, that you're a correct size thirty six
waist and a pair of Fela black shoes sneakers size eleven.
And they're claiming that those were not worn by Anthony Wright.
They were worn by the victim, Louise tally Well. Louise
Talley's niece came and testified in the twenty sixteen retrial
(48:39):
and she said by aunt, Aunt Louise was a church lady.
She she always wore skirts or dresses and I told
her she could wear pants suits. She said, oh, no,
pants are for men. And they asked her would she
ever wear a Chicago bul sweatshirt?
Speaker 1 (48:55):
No way?
Speaker 2 (48:56):
Would she ever wear, you know, black swayed jeans, no way?
Would you ever wear feel of sneak airs? No way?
And Anthony right on the witness stand. This is first
of all, Anthony Wright was the star witness in Larry's
crackpot universe. This convicted killer and rapist was his star witness.
He put him on the stand. Brian mcmonacle, who was
(49:20):
the one of the lawyers for the detectives, destroyed this guy.
It was a complete and utter destruction on the story
that you'll see on my website. I called it the
train wreck in courtroom eight o two and Anthony Right
on the witness stand said those couldn't have been my sneakers.
I'm only a size nine and a half. Now, the
(49:42):
guy weys you know, close to you got to be
kidding me, and he insisted that he only wore a
size nine and a half. Well mcmonacal and Perry, Fred Perry.
They subpoened the commissary records for the prison that Right
was in shoes size was either eleven and a half
(50:02):
or twelve. So on the witness dand Right looked like
the proverbial deer in the headlights. The jury completely in
sixteen of the thirteen of the sixteen charges brought by
Larry Krasner, the jury voted not guilty. The only three
they caught him on were alleged fibbs that the detectives
(50:24):
told against DNA evidence. According to the judge blew the case,
the three convictions should never happen. According to the law
about perjury, if you're going to perjure yourself, you got
to perjure yourself over something that's material. And yeah, so
whatever the detectives had to say about what the Ada
(50:46):
bridget Kerrent told him about DNA, who gives a crack
It didn't matter in the criminal case right when he
was retried in twenty sixteen, he was acquitted. And in
the civil case where they gave depositions where they mentioned
that he got nine point eight million dollars, So you know,
how is that important? How is that material? So anyhow,
(51:09):
this was just a complete repudiation of Larry Krasner's crack
pot exonerations and you know, bogus indictments of police. So
it's just it's just there were there were four different
forms in the city in March, one month out of
the year where Larry the corruption and incompetence that Larry
(51:32):
Krasner was exposed and involved a federal court judge, Judge
Slapsky in the Bolognia case and involved Amory Coyle in
the Beth McCaffrey Right to Know appeal case, and involved
the State Supreme Court hearing testimony about what to do
about Larry Krasner who waves the white surrender flag when
(51:54):
one hundred convicted killers wanted to get out of jail
or off death row. It's just it's just amazing to
me that this man is instill in office and we
don't have the mayor on down screaming for his resignation
because it's complete and utter corruption has been exposed. Well, right,
(52:14):
we'll see you on that one.
Speaker 1 (52:16):
Well, you just said that, and when we come back,
I want to play you asking Larry the question.
Speaker 2 (52:23):
But you better play it now because I don't think
we're coming back.
Speaker 1 (52:26):
Okay, well if if we do, because our friends we
aren't there. But here's my question to you. Do we
know the window because I know that Vochi was in
Krasna were trying to go after me and my partner
during this same twenty eighteen May twenty eighteen time period.
(52:48):
See when they went in there. Once they got rid
of thirty one DA's, they want to destroying those homicide
files to make a bunch of money. Yep, we know, yes,
do we have a wind do because if VOCHI said
that regarding UH said that regarding Anthony, right, I mean, yeah,
(53:13):
I think it was it, and I'm sorry mister Patterson.
Speaker 2 (53:15):
Patterson. Yeah. Then the first one they did it was
early in it was.
Speaker 1 (53:21):
Right, that was that was May. But they had a
Larry went in there. Larry did all this in the
first three days. He started doing it. Three things I
know Larry Krasner did before January fifth or before January seventh,
let's just round it up. He tried to get me
and my partner removed. He took the Ryan Panell filed back,
and he released or fired thirty one prosecutors. That was
(53:45):
all done within the first seven days of Larry Krashner's tenure.
That's why I say all this was premeditated. He had
a case and Vochie was overheard, and he couldn't get
Jacobs in his part partner because the case was airtight.
And this was a case where a guy blew his
(54:06):
four year old daughter's brings out while she was watching SpongeBob.
These are the people you got, seventy seven year old
miss Tally, you got baby baby Barbara Jean four year
old rape. You had this. He doesn't care in the
case you talked about, when we talked about Chief Judge,
Federal Court Judge Michel Goldberg, this was a person who
(54:29):
killed a preacher's son, his wife and left their daughter
to die in a reason four months old, right, so
to die in a freezing house.
Speaker 2 (54:43):
They stole their crip before they left. They stole he crip.
Speaker 1 (54:47):
And literally want this guy back out on the street.
You know why, Yeah, use this turn of recidivism. You know,
whatever the case may be, he wants to regurgitate the
murderers and Lucky, every every trial, every last one of
them that looked into Larry Krashner's actions regarding these exonerations
(55:08):
has all found that he lacks candor. And that's their
famous legal mumbo jumble. Let's talk into a language that
all people understand. That's someone going into a court and
lying to the court. It's a blatant lie and it
(55:29):
should be perjury. It should be a red perjury. A
rat pursurd is a founder of the third degree. Why
hasn't Voce been charged. He just sent detective James Pitts
to jail for six years with the same crap, But
a lad's perjury, So why is vote cheaper than or
(55:55):
we gotta go and break guys and we'll we'll see
you in a minute.
Speaker 2 (55:59):
Maybe maybe
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