Why is this a Cold Case? - Special Guest Julia Forbes - Search Warrant

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Speaker 1 (00:53):
Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. It's search weren't and We're alive.
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from Salt Lake City, Utah, and that's in Valley, New York.
The title of this episode is why is this a
cold case? We're going to find out and a cold
case investigative failures.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
We're going to touch on Temple Sergeant Chris Fitzgerald's murder trial,
Sarah Birchmore murder trial, if you've heard of that, Krasner,
and we'll follow up on Karen Reid, the mccabees and

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the Alberts and Proctor and a group of disasters. Krasner
leaves no doubt that he's a criminal, and we'll we'll
show you the video of that. So the New York

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Democrat Mayor primary and Philadelphia Corruption and Wrongful Prosecution updates. Okay,
So who do we have so far? We've got the
detective Jake Jacobs from Philadelphia Homicide and Observed Shooting Unit,
and we've got our correspondent from Hot Tennessee.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
Right.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
Uh, veteran n ci A special Agent, Greg Highlights, And
I'm Johnsonian, a veteran n ci A special Agent. So
I just before, I just wanted people to know that
we've got two special guests. One is Julia Forbes, relative
to a cold case in Philadelphia, and the other one

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is Megan Eaton that you're that you've seen on that
we've she's been uh kind enough to be on before,
and she's a correspondent to the Rudy Giuliani Show as
well as an executive producer. And we'll talk to her
about that. But I wanted to just go through a

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couple of these things that have happened that, you know,
before we get heavy into other stuff. Let me just
take a look here. Okay, So, do you guys eat
Domino's pizza?

Speaker 2 (03:40):
No?

Speaker 1 (03:40):
Jake, No, great, No, I do not. Okay, Well, those
of you that eat Domino's pizza, you know some of
the people at work there, jesus.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
This is an employee warning for Domino's Pizza, and it
says came to work intoxicated on known substance, possibly its
anogenic nature. Referred to customers as bovine and poor signe.
After a customer complained, he told her to go straddle
a norwale you coorinated gene. Pull was removed from customer

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service to pizza cutting area, where he wrote messages to
customers concerning the nature of pie. He became frustrated when
he could only recite pie to the forty six digit digit.
When told to go home, he smeared lava cake mix
over his face and yelled, I'm Rick James, bitch. Action

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to be taken was not rostered for any uh ship today,
Action to be taken termination, So he's Rick James. Okay, So.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
Uh, I'm gonna I'm gonna use that go straddle in
narwhale some day.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
Yeah, yeah, I know that's bad. Okay. So you know
there was a primary in New York City yesterday, right
and late at night they had for this guy Zoran Mom, Donnie,

(05:24):
Am I saying that?

Speaker 2 (05:25):
Right?

Speaker 1 (05:27):
But these are the things that he wants to do
to New York City. One, Abolish the New York Police Department,
Abolish prisons, Abolish medical bills, abolish private health insurance, banned
all guns, legalize sex work, have safe injection sites, and

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cash bail decriminalized drug possession, end sentencing enhancements, and end
all cooperation with ICE. What do you think about that?

Speaker 3 (06:13):
Rick, that's mind boggling.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
Yeah. Okay, So this is our message to uh the
Democrat front runner from mayor. This is a a view
into Ice.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
The fuckers.

Speaker 4 (06:33):
If your name is Juanito Jose, Okay, soon as we're
bringing you in for questioning. So sela in, pack your
chunk lass. It's about to go local Primo.

Speaker 1 (06:41):
This is our seventh home rate today.

Speaker 4 (06:43):
We got one and his primo also named one. Hey
fabitos who won some primo?

Speaker 2 (06:51):
They lost? That gets them every time.

Speaker 5 (06:56):
Boys, we're catching illegals like pokemon, got it?

Speaker 2 (07:00):
Paint them all?

Speaker 1 (07:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (07:03):
See John, regarding your New York City primary winner socialist mayor. Yes,
he's only been here for a couple of years. Why
do they talk? Why do they rush to this country
and then soon when they get there want to make
so many changes? Why didn't they just do that wherever
they're at? You know, you got your Somlia terrorists in Minnesota.

(07:27):
It's just amazing. This guy's been around here, been in
this country for seven years, had a job for three years,
or only worked for three years and that says a
lot about the citizens of New York that they voted
this got yeah, this is this is, this is terrible.

(07:48):
Get rid of this salt tax. We don't want them
to raise taxes.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
Okay, So.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
You know who curtis a sleeve way is right?

Speaker 2 (07:56):
Guardian Angel guy?

Speaker 1 (07:57):
Yes, you're right. So he's running on the Republican side
of the ticket or does he have.

Speaker 6 (08:06):
He'sed to Republican and Adam's abita independent.

Speaker 1 (08:13):
Wow, all right, you guys gotta I gotta ask Megan.

Speaker 6 (08:18):
Whenever she comes on. What does Rudy think about this?
You know, America's former.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
Oh my god, exactly. Okay, I wanted to you know,
we've got some things that have happened in the Karen
Read case, and we'll get to them after our uh
in probably in the second hour, but I wanted to
uh mentioned mentioned that there's some trials coming up. Brian

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Coburger is in one of them. Hang on a second,
Crystal Rogers, this State versus Books uh and Joseph Lawson
if you're following those cases, because well we'll follow them,

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and then Donna Adelson case. You know, if if you're
hearing these names for the first time, you might want
to google and figure out what the he was going on.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
The fourth one is Luigi Mangione is as trials coming up,
well at least the you know, some motions and let
me see what the Okay, Sandra birchmore the United States

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of America versus Matthew Farewell, and that's got a lot
of the players from Nick Karen Reid trial. And it
also happening happened in Candon, Canton, Massachusetts, So I got
some problems there. So I way those trials will try

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to follow, you know, particularly this this other one in Canton,
which we'll we'll give you more information on that as
we as we go here. So you know, we're going
to get some into some pretty uh tough stuff here shortly,

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and I wanted to lighten it up a little bit
for a couple of seconds. Okay. So I don't know,
I've never had anybody respond in a interrogation like this,
and I doubt if greg Or Jake has, but it's interesting.

Speaker 7 (10:45):
Here's your coffee.

Speaker 4 (10:46):
Thanks you.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
You never take my life for the hot coffee all
over me?

Speaker 7 (10:50):
Oh is there a reason why you would say that?

Speaker 4 (10:54):
No?

Speaker 7 (10:55):
So what were you doing on Thursdays.

Speaker 4 (10:56):
And what are you doing? Mmm? I just kidding.

Speaker 7 (11:02):
Why were you at the Westland Mall at eight thirty pm?

Speaker 4 (11:06):
Well?

Speaker 8 (11:06):
I definitely wasn't murdering someone.

Speaker 7 (11:09):
How'd you know this was a murder investigation?

Speaker 4 (11:12):
What I did?

Speaker 9 (11:13):
There's someone was murdered. Yeah, No, I wasn't doing that.

Speaker 4 (11:18):
Sorry, I was shout I needed new games.

Speaker 7 (11:20):
So you're saying you had nothing to do with this.

Speaker 1 (11:23):
I don't know what if I pulled out this by one,
get one free RB's cherry, turnover a coupon and slid
it over to you, what would you say?

Speaker 4 (11:31):
Then?

Speaker 7 (11:31):
Are you trying to bribe me?

Speaker 4 (11:33):
No? I'm just kidding.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
I wish I had one of those if you guys
like drive the back of my head and turt it's
the table? Why Rachel man Man?

Speaker 7 (11:45):
Sorry, things you say really don't help you out.

Speaker 8 (11:48):
Okay, Well, I feel like this state isn't going well Fellows, Chuck.

Speaker 7 (11:53):
Please, Okay, you're definitely free to go.

Speaker 4 (11:58):
Okay, yes, you're going to get as centers my coffee
and I finish it.

Speaker 9 (12:03):
You can take you, you know not boyste them all right?

Speaker 7 (12:08):
Thank you?

Speaker 1 (12:12):
Okay's so she's a comedian on Instagram, right, Okay, well anyway, hey,
look at Texas High school murder and it was just
indicted yesterday. I just want to run this quick and
then we'll get to the special guests. Okay, good afternoon.

Speaker 10 (12:30):
Earlier this spring, our community was shaken by what happened
at the school track met in Frisco, the violent laws
of seventeen year old Austin Metcalf. For weeks now, my
team has been presenting evidence to the grand jury, and
today I summarized that evidence and I asked the grand
jury to return a first degree murder indictment against Carmelo Anthony,
which they did. With this indictment, the case now moves

(12:52):
formally into the court system. From this point forward, we'll
continue doing our job both fully and fairly to pursue
justice under the law. As for the scheduling of the trial,
that will be up to the court. But when the
time comes, we will be ready. Now, we know that
this case has struck a deep nerve here in Colin
County and beyond, and that's understandable. When something like this

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happens at a school event, it shakes people to the core.
But let's remember that the justice system works best when
it moves with steadiness and principle. That's what we're committed to,
and that's what this case deserves. We're also mindful of
Austin's family and everyone who loved him. Please keep them
in your thoughts and if you're willing your prayers as well. Finally,

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let's remember that a defendant is presumed innocent and lesson
until proven guilty in a court of law.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
Yes, okay, so at least he's been indicted. You right,
You guys have anything you want to mention about that
stuff lately.

Speaker 3 (13:56):
It's a political opotato right now because of the fact
that the defendant was trying to lodge a defense type
case and the fact that you know, he had to
go except a go fundme, which it exploded. I mean
it was amazing how much money that was put into

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the funding.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
Yeah, bought a new house car. Oh well, remember when
we had Lacey on Lacey Lanford and Matthew or Street
and they were calling it omicide scholarship, right right, So brutal,

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absolutely brutal. Yes, okay, So our first special guest is
Julia Forbes, and I just wanted to Bill, can you
bring Julia up? Julia, Good afternoon, How.

Speaker 4 (15:03):
Are you doing, hey, John, how you know?

Speaker 1 (15:06):
Good? Good? And also, Bill, we have a Meghan Heaton
who I mentioned earlier. She's a uh, you know, a
correspondent to the Ruly Julie Rudy Giuliani Show. And she's
also an executive producer.

Speaker 4 (15:21):
And but.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
Julia, you've been the victim of a horrific circumstance in
Philadelphia in.

Speaker 4 (15:31):
Roxboro, right, yes, yes.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
And uh you know, Meghan has essentially been the victim
of a horrific circumstance in uh you know, inner city Philadelphia, right. So, uh, Julia,
I know this is the first time you've really told
this story to a bunch of people, But I want

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you to just think that you're talking to the four
of us.

Speaker 4 (15:59):
Okay, yep, you got it, And we'll.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
Ask questions along the way. But if you could give
us a chronology of the thing. Now, this is you
yourself at a wedding and okay, so your your husband
there is what's his name? And what's your little boy's name?

Speaker 4 (16:22):
Ryan? And my boy Shane okay, and that's my brother
and the picture also.

Speaker 1 (16:28):
Oh okay, okay, great, okay, So if you can give
us an idea of you know how this thing came about.
I mean, when let me ask you this, When were
you guys married? When were you guys married?

Speaker 4 (16:44):
We got married in twenty fourteen.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
Okay, okay, So if you're just going to give us
a chronology of what the hell happened here?

Speaker 4 (16:55):
Okay. So two detectives stayed in my house on January
twenty eighth and told me somebody shot my husband.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
What year was that?

Speaker 4 (17:04):
What year twenty twenty two?

Speaker 1 (17:07):
January twenty eighth of twenty twenty two? Two detectives. They
were a Philadelphia detective. Correct, Okay, do you remember any names? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (17:22):
Well, I know the one guy. Damn should I say it? Yeah,
Matthew Farley. Matthew Farley. He was the lead detective. There
was another guy with him. I really didn't get to
deal with him, and they wouldn't really let me talk
to him at all. They came and said somebody shot
him twice. And my next response was is he dead?

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And they said yes. I just dropped to my on
my steps and I just blacked out pretty much. They
were talking to me, not someone was like registering to me,
and I said, I can't believe it. They said, let's
go in the house and They started asking me questions,
you know, when anybody want to hurt him? I said, no,

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how was he asking the night before? Who was he
talking to? And I was telling them like pretty much,
I went to bed at ten o'clock. I didn't feel good.
He was still up with her son. Definitely. He always
put our son, Shane to bed a little bit later.
I then I then began to ask him, Uh, was
he with that piece of ship Jay Swank who came

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around and the whole profile of this guy was just
not a good dude or whatever. And uh, they pulled
out a picture and they said, is it's him? I said, yeah,
that's him, And it was the picture of that him
in the hallway at Roxboro Hospital of just pointing out
in the car. So pretty much they said that he

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was shot. He was dropped off in his own car
and left and they didn't know anything yet. And then
going down the lane pretty much that they started to
question people. I was giving them names. Brian McCarthy, Uh,
he was another guy that wasn't a great person that
came around.

Speaker 9 (19:12):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (19:12):
Brian McCarthy had a conversation with Ryan the night before
he passed and was telling him what ja Swank was
saying to him over the phone, and Brian was like,
something doesn't make sense. Don't go there, don't go there.
I got a funny feeling. Ryan brought his gun there.
It was never shot. He pretty much was just dropped

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off at Roxborough. He was then transferred to Temple where
he died.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
Okay, so, Julia, was he when he was dropped off
at Roxboro Hospital?

Speaker 2 (19:47):
Right?

Speaker 1 (19:48):
Yeah, surely what a name was he? What were they
what name were they giving?

Speaker 4 (19:54):
That's right? Jay Swanks told them that his name was
Michael Brownie, the person who died the day before my husband.
Even though he knew Ryan, he drove his car, he
came to his house, knew Rin, did a lot of
things for him, and he just bought up, you know,
just to happen not remember his name that day after

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he dropped them off. And he also had it in
Ryan's head that Michael Brownie was lurking around our house
for months. So that doesn't make any sense to me.

Speaker 1 (20:28):
Julie, can you? I'm trying to put a face to
the names here. So who is this person?

Speaker 4 (20:36):
That's piece of shit? Jay Swank Swank.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
His last name is Swank s w E N k okay,
and then this individual.

Speaker 4 (20:48):
That's Dan McKillen.

Speaker 1 (20:51):
Okay, and can you refresh our memory how they fit
into this?

Speaker 4 (20:58):
Sure? So Jay wanted to uh, well, apparently they said
it was Ryan. Everything was Ryan's fault. Ryan wanted to
go to Dan McKillen's house, even though that Jay was
friends with Dan McKillen for years. Apparently the story was
that Ryan went there to go exchange a chainsaw for bullets.

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Nothing was ever recovered except he came out there pretty
much in the mix.

Speaker 1 (21:26):
They were going to exchange a chainsaw for bullets.

Speaker 4 (21:29):
Yeah, that was the story.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
What okay, what kind of ammunition was it?

Speaker 4 (21:36):
Honestly I just heard it was his bullets, bullets for
a gun.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (21:43):
From there, the story pretty much went from that story,
Not someone's ever recovered, I asked the detective. Not someone's
ever recovered. From there it went to she wanted to
reenact somebody who accidentally shot themselves and that house a
couple of months prior. From there, it went to that too.

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He wanted to reenact eight Mile, the eminem movie.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
So who wanted to I'm sorry, who wanted to reenact
the movie?

Speaker 4 (22:23):
Ryan wanted to reenact everything. Ryan wanted to go there,
Ryan wanted to exchange the chainsaw for bullets, and everything
was Ryan's.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
Fault according to according to.

Speaker 4 (22:36):
The detective, but apparently it could have been something that
Jay told the detective. I never really got the full
story through statements or video statements.

Speaker 1 (22:47):
Okay, have you gotten copies of any police reports relative
to this?

Speaker 4 (22:53):
Now? The detective closed the case without even telling me.
You had a very bad problem with communicating.

Speaker 1 (23:02):
Okay. So first of all, they show up at your house,
tell you that your husband is deceased, right, and that
he's been shot, but he was at the Roxboro hospital
under the wrong name, dropped off there under the wrong

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name by the swank guy. Yes, okay, So this guy
drops your husband off in the Roxboro hospital, at the
Roxboro Hospital and it gives your gives them a fictitious
name for your for your husband, and that's name happened

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to be the guy that was killed the previous day, right, correct, Okay? Okay,
So then, uh, he was transported to Temple, Yeah, and
that's where he was pronounced deceased.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (24:02):
They took them straight to the LR and they tried everything.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
How did they figure out that it was your husband
as opposed to this other bullshit name. They gave it Rocksborough.

Speaker 4 (24:13):
And so he had a wild on him and all
his id was in there, and that's why he record
his name. They didn't even know his name, Okay.

Speaker 1 (24:23):
And what was the what was the cause of death?
They told you? What did they tell you it was
the cause of death?

Speaker 4 (24:31):
They originally told me it was comicide. And then so
after we're going, I mean, I could go back. I
mean in February, the guy Dan McEwan, who I have
a picture of, he was the number one suspect in everything,
and yelp him. He got rid of the gun, he

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cleaned up the crime scene, he got rid of Ryan's phone.
He I mean, my house were gone and I didn't
have any keys in my house. Brian had a parakeees obviously,
and that that was going put off the crime scene
from there drawing a blank, sorry.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
Well, okay, So the event the incident took place in Roxboro, correct. Okay,
So those of you that are not familiar with Roxboro,
here's gives you an idea of where it is geographically. Okay,
Roxboro is just north west of Philly, right, Jake, right.

Speaker 6 (25:40):
In the northwestern part and the original They probably transferred
them from Roxboro to Temples because I don't think Roxboro
Hospital has a trauma center, you know, to treat his
gunshot wound.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
Okay, all right, not too far away from continent hockeing, Okay.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
Yes, all right, up seventy six, right right across to
the ong way right.

Speaker 1 (26:07):
Okay, So, Julia, where did it happen in rock Yeah?

Speaker 6 (26:13):
Where did he go after he drop your husband off?

Speaker 4 (26:17):
He left the seat, he left the hospital. He just
walked away.

Speaker 6 (26:21):
And why did he did he ever tell anyone why
he gets the wrong the hospital of your husband's wrong day.

Speaker 4 (26:28):
The excuse was from the dam the detective. He was scared.

Speaker 1 (26:36):
Boy. Yeah, okay, So what is a what's Swank's current
uh status?

Speaker 4 (26:49):
You know, I haven't seen him in prior year. I
mean he's still around, but I haven't seen him. He's
still pricey sponge bag as he was before.

Speaker 1 (27:02):
Okay, So where did it happen in rocket? Do you
know exactly where it happened in Rockville?

Speaker 4 (27:08):
I believe it was that Michael mckiw and taal three
four six del ran, I'm remembering the address.

Speaker 1 (27:15):
Right, Okay? And your husband Ryan had a weapon with.

Speaker 4 (27:24):
Him at the time, correct, license to carry?

Speaker 1 (27:27):
Right? Do you know? Do you remember what kind of
weapon it was?

Speaker 4 (27:33):
It was a blue Smith's Wesson like correct, I'm not
really a gun person, Realse with you. I really didn't
want him to have it, so right.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
You almost have to have one down at Philadelphia.

Speaker 4 (27:49):
Yeah, well yeah, that's why I got after cober and everything.
People got all crazy.

Speaker 1 (27:55):
Yeah. Does it sound like it was a thirty eight
or or three fifty seven or.

Speaker 4 (28:03):
I mean I have the original rapper and uh, I
have the book with it's actually on the living room.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
I don't.

Speaker 4 (28:13):
I mean, I know what it is, but I don't
know right now?

Speaker 1 (28:16):
Okay, all right, So he had a Smith and Wesson
weapon with him. Was it was it loaded?

Speaker 2 (28:24):
Do you know?

Speaker 4 (28:25):
No? I don't know if it was loaded or not.

Speaker 1 (28:27):
Okay, So he shows up at what is it three
forty six? Adel Ran m hm, right, And to the
best year of your knowledge, who was there?

Speaker 4 (28:41):
Be'st my age? It was Jay, the guy Dan. There's
other people in the house. Apparently they were outside. They
all three of them were in the kitchen is where
the incident happened, apparently, And you know, I really never
got I felt like they never really questioned the people
that were there, did it they? I was told that

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they don't need to question everybody, but it's not everybody's
people that were there. The story doesn't make sense to me.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
Oh my god, you would interview everybody that's in the run.

Speaker 4 (29:15):
Well, there's a guy on the run that was never
question I guess that you just stop, you know, questioning
people when they're there. If somebody got murdered. Pretty much, so,
I guess that's just that's okay.

Speaker 1 (29:26):
I mean, what's the name of the guy that's on
the run.

Speaker 4 (29:33):
I don't even know the name, because all the stories
made no sense to me about eminem and playing around
with the gun whenever somebody shot themselves and that house
months ago and then everything just didn't make sense to me.
That's exactly why I'm talking to you, because more things
to the story. It's just like somebody's not telling the
truth and they're getting away with it.

Speaker 1 (29:56):
Okay, So your husband goes over to three Tell ran
in Roxburgh, Roxburgh the next thing, and there's a bunch
of people in the house, some of whom weren't interviewed.

Speaker 4 (30:10):
As far as I am, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
Okay, And the next thing you know, he's dropped off
at Roxboro under a fictitious name, right yeah, and then
he's transported to Temple where they check his idea and
figure out who he is. And then the police show.
The detectives show up at your house. Okay, did they

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come to ask your question?

Speaker 3 (30:39):
Julia? Go ahead, Julia, doing a great job. By the way,
you had said that Michael Brown, I think it's Brownie.
Is that Michael Brown had had been died the previous day.

Speaker 4 (30:56):
He definitely died three of the twenty seven.

Speaker 1 (30:59):
How did he do?

Speaker 4 (31:02):
I never got the story. That didn't matter. They said
they never looked into that he is. Obituary is up online.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
I have.

Speaker 3 (31:11):
I was looking at the obituary while you were talking.

Speaker 1 (31:14):
But they don't.

Speaker 3 (31:15):
They don't include it.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
They don't.

Speaker 3 (31:17):
They just said that he passed away.

Speaker 4 (31:19):
All right. He had a little boy, I believe, And
did you know him? I don't know of him, but
I know that name because that's all. I'm like, who
was this guy? I'm like, why's he working around our house?
I'm like, we got nothing doing him? That's all you
I told you know, Jay, But you know, it was
just weird. Like if you if you knew of my husband,

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you drove his car, you ate his food, you know
what I mean. You're in my house, you know my
husband's name. Why are you being shady and dropping them
off with the wrong name.

Speaker 9 (31:48):
Right and lying about the facts of what actually happened.
I mean, it's a huge red flag that the guy
died the day before. I mean, how much clearer could
it get? But as we know, we have a DA
that it doesn't look good for the record, So a
lot of these the families are not even getting any
kind of justice. It's already so hard to have to

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go through that and lose your loved one. And I
want to just tell you that I'm very sorry for
your loss and that you're having to even go through this.

Speaker 4 (32:16):
Thank you, thank you for sharing.

Speaker 9 (32:17):
Your story, because I think a lot of other people
have been in similar scenarios, especially in Philadelphia with this DA,
So I appreciate that.

Speaker 4 (32:26):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
Okay, so initially the it was ruled a homicide, correct, right?
Can you describe? We have the autopsy photographs, but I
don't want to show them, Okay, you know, out of
respect to you and respect to him. But when you

(32:58):
did they tell you what what the injuries were to
is to Ryan.

Speaker 4 (33:04):
So the bullet was put up to his left length,
left side. It went straight through his body. The bullet
came out the other side. It clipped his mad artery,
which means he and he internally just bled. He bled
and bled and bled. He had to get his right
kidney removed and that was it. I mean, it pretty
much eclipped them. So that's why he died. I mean,

(33:27):
I hope I wish he shot somewhere else he would
have lived. But maybe if he if they called nine
to one one like an actual human being, the ambulance
would have came and they would have known that rock
Star is not a Sama center, and then he would
have went to temple. Maybe they could have saved them,
but they didn't care.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
Were there any other wounds on his body.

Speaker 4 (33:48):
There was trauma to the head, but I was told
that it's because he banged it. He felt from the
gunshot wound like a lot of bruising on his head,
which I don't I don't know if I believe actulf.
I know, when you're an ambulance, you're strapped in so
that has not bang around there and they stomp on
his head. I don't I don't even know what happened there, but.

Speaker 1 (34:13):
It would be very interesting to interview everybody that was
in the kitchen.

Speaker 4 (34:18):
At the right.

Speaker 1 (34:19):
So we have one bullet entry wound on the left
hand side, right correct of his chest, and then we've
got an exit there's an exit wound.

Speaker 4 (34:34):
Yeah, so that's why they told me he was shot
because it's the entrance run in the exit wounds.

Speaker 1 (34:41):
But there was no no other bullet wounds. No, okay,
But he did have bruising to the head. Correct, Okay, said.

Speaker 6 (34:55):
You said Ryan's gun was never fired? Well what gun
shot him?

Speaker 4 (35:03):
All right? So thank you. I'm sorry, it's my first
time doing this. I'm a little nervous.

Speaker 2 (35:07):
Yes, that's okay, take it time, Okay.

Speaker 4 (35:09):
So the gun that shot him was apparently Dan McEwan's
gun that he wasn't even supposed to have because he
had a rap sheet and Jay had a rap sheet.
The guy was a felon and it's just funny because
he wasn't supposed to have a gun that night. But Ryan,
you know, Jay always asked like Ryan to do things,
and it was like, I don't know, he hasd to
like Ryan was his daddy like, can you give me

(35:31):
a ride here? To me? And Ryan was a good
hearted person man. He would do anything for anybody. It's
like Jay wanted him to go to that house that night.
That guy Dan wasn't supposed to have a gun. Matter
of fact, on his U rap sheet, he had a
pleaded guilty to another person's accidental death. Wow, but what

(35:54):
that matter? So Dan got rid of the gun. You know,
there was a pleniminary trial back in March. Dude, Dan
was laughing the whole entire time on the trial. I
was supposed to have a gun.

Speaker 1 (36:11):
How did Daniel meet his demise? I see he died
July twenty third.

Speaker 4 (36:19):
Yeah, it's funny because he died right after I was
supposed to go to a pre status trial that the
DA told me I was gonna come there. I was
going to see video statements of everything. Then she said
I didn't have to be there, and it just so
happened a month after he was told he had to
go to a jury trial, he's dead.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
Well how did he get killed?

Speaker 4 (36:38):
Yeah? Yeah, apparently of an O produced And you know what,
they didn't even know that he died because they stopped
communicating when me after the plenary trial back in March.
My great friend Shannon, she was like, pull him off
on Google and this is the guy and I go, yeah,
this is him, and I'm like, so, you know, the
DA didn't even know that he passed away, and the

(37:00):
detective didn't even know he passed away. The only way
we knew was by pulling them up on Google. And
then after the guy the number one suspect is dead.
That's when they changed from horbside to undetermined.

Speaker 1 (37:14):
Who is the medical examiner at that.

Speaker 4 (37:17):
Time doctor Hannah cast.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
Them And who was the ADA.

Speaker 4 (37:23):
Lawen Crump Lawn crumpt.

Speaker 1 (37:28):
And the detective was Matthew Farley.

Speaker 4 (37:32):
Uh huh?

Speaker 6 (37:33):
Did they exceptionally clear? What was the claris I mean
they didn't get in touch with you evidently. I'm sure
you was reaching out to Farley regularly and they didn't call,
and it was your husband and you received no notification
of the clearance.

Speaker 4 (37:48):
Now they closed the case without telling me. So after
the plinary trial, be honest with you, all the communications stopped.
So I want I'm getting my own homicide advocate because
I'm like, what do I do? Like, I want to
know what's going on. There was risdom compensation I was
trying to get. I didn't file for risdom compensation because
I'm still trying to know what's going on with the

(38:08):
case or whatever, and all the communication stuffed. And then
her name was Heather Arius. She definitely helped me out.
She got ahold of Lauren Crump and there was a
three way conversation that we had and then the conference
and I told them, I said, Dan McEwan's dead, so
what's going on with the case. And then she's like, oh,

(38:29):
we have to have a meeting with the medical examiner.
It was the DA, the detective, the medical examiner, and
the medical exambers I don't know, higher up boss or whatever.
And from there the Heather Area has told me the
reason why I nobody's calling you back is because the
detective didn't turn his findings. Then I'm like, okay, well

(38:51):
what findings? Like he told me like he locked the
guy up for getting rid of evidence, like there's so
much in Bob, you know. And from there they ruled
it and they changed it to my husband accidentally shot
himself and the only thing on the autopsy that with
a dendum you want to call it is some bullshit.

(39:11):
Were good faith effort that was put in there, and
then the statements of the two people that were involved
in the husband's death, and both of them contradicted each other,
which makes no sense at all.

Speaker 1 (39:22):
Okay, so let me just understand this Jesus.

Speaker 9 (39:26):
It's insane.

Speaker 1 (39:26):
So it went from being ruled a homicide to being
ruled undetermined to uh, I'm telling you that he killed
that he shot himself.

Speaker 4 (39:40):
That went from homicide to undetermined right after they didn't
even know Dan MQW and with Dad after the number
one suspect, that's when they turned it to undetermined, which
meetings like, I mean, honestly, I don't even know that shit,
don't sell fucked up. But undetermined, they're saying that they
don't know who did it, even though they're still blaming Ryan.

(40:02):
Even though the medical examiner said that there was no
visual gun shot residue on his hand, they do not
do a test. They lead it up to the detective,
which he never did, which doesn't make any sense to
me when you got a gun involved in from these
some of these bodies just laid up in the hospital.
And then the medical examiner said that there was no
gun shot residue usually on his hands, and then the

(40:25):
statements in the autopsy said that Jay said that Damn
McEwen handed my husband the gun. Dammit Ewan said that
he took the gun, the gun that he got rid of,
he unloaded on the table. Ryan then reloaded the gun,
put it up to a body and shot himself.

Speaker 1 (40:46):
And this is according to Julie who's saying that.

Speaker 4 (40:53):
The Damn McEwan and Jake Flink who were involved who
you know, got rid of everything wrong name, there was
a bank account.

Speaker 1 (41:03):
Two guys are saying that he shot himself.

Speaker 4 (41:05):
This pretty much the witnesses, and one of the witnesses
is dead.

Speaker 2 (41:10):
Now.

Speaker 4 (41:11):
Yeah, the number one is that I had the overdose.

Speaker 1 (41:15):
Correct, okay, yep, okay that you know we're getting a question. Okay,
So the crime scene is at three sixteen del ran.

Speaker 4 (41:27):
I believe it was three forty six.

Speaker 1 (41:30):
Oh oh, I'm sorry, three forty six. Sorry I can't
read my own writing. Three forty six del ran. So
was there a crime scene examination done?

Speaker 4 (41:40):
Yeah, there was a warm Apparently they went into three
to four days later and there's nothing found. The car
was clean. I don't know, I mean, is that possible?
No blood anywhere?

Speaker 1 (41:55):
Do you think that mc gowan cleaned the crime scene up.

Speaker 4 (41:59):
No, Jay Flang said on the Plumbary trial as him,
he got rid of the gun as can be cleaned
off the crime scene. As Daniel mckewan's lasting the whole
entire time about my husband being dead.

Speaker 9 (42:11):
This is insane.

Speaker 1 (42:14):
Wow. So they did a crime scene examination three or
four days after it happened.

Speaker 4 (42:21):
Correct, h. And what I don't understand.

Speaker 6 (42:29):
Is, I'm just saying that sounds awfully odd.

Speaker 2 (42:34):
I've never went to.

Speaker 6 (42:35):
A homicide scene four days after I got notified of
a homicide.

Speaker 2 (42:44):
I just saying that I've never done it.

Speaker 1 (42:46):
So don't so, Julia, I mean not giving too much away.
Do you live in Rocksboro?

Speaker 4 (42:55):
I live in Box shease.

Speaker 2 (42:57):
Okay, are you across the city.

Speaker 4 (43:01):
Yeah. And which was another thing that was weird too,
is because I'm sorry to go back. Jay Swank told
the detective that Ryan picked him up at the Sonoko,
which you would think possibly he would check the Sonoko
CAMPH was just to confirm that, but he never did,
because it's that the crime didn't happen there. I'm like, okay. Also,

(43:22):
Jay Slank knew my husband had cameras hooked up to
his phone. And it's funny because the date of my
husband left the house, that footage was deleted off the campra.
There was no there's no there's no evidence of Ryan
ever leaving the house that night, which I think was
weird because he's not going to just go on the
phone and just delete the night he left. The only

(43:44):
person that knew, the only person he knew, I'm sorry,
the only person he knew that Jay was the only
person knew that he had cameras on that phone.

Speaker 2 (43:53):
You was about to mention something about a bank account.
What was that?

Speaker 4 (43:56):
Yes? So uh, back in like March April, there was
a mail that came to the house key first, somebody
opened up a bank account in his name, and I
called the bank and I'm like, what is this? You know,
he passed away, and they're like, oh, somebody made a
bank account open up on his name. And I'm like, well,

(44:16):
do you need everything? And they're like, oh, yeah, you
need everything. It was done on a lot. There's security
fraud shut it down. And then I'm thinking, like, what
did they do? Let his bodies sit there and snap
pictures of all his information in his wallet.

Speaker 1 (44:32):
That probably happened in the kitchen.

Speaker 4 (44:34):
I was told that was normal, that happens all the time.
Nothing I'll look into.

Speaker 1 (44:41):
So was Matthew Farley the detective, aware that there was
a bank account opened under his name?

Speaker 4 (44:51):
Yeah, he told me to send the email to him.
And then when he did not, when he stopped return
on my phone calls and I actually got him on
the phone to like what are you doing, He was like,
you never told me that. I said, yes, I did.

Speaker 6 (45:06):
Oh man. The autopsy report says assailant. Your husband was
shot by an assailant. Was he shot by an assailant
or was he shoot himself?

Speaker 4 (45:20):
That's the thing. It was originally homicide, and then it
seemed like after Dan y Xuwne was found dead or
die pretty much that they changed everything. It doesn't make
any sense. He was never tested for gunshot residue. And
that's another thing. And the statements from the autopsy. Jay
Swang said that Ryan's last words were you never told

(45:41):
me it was loaded. But dam mxwen says he loaded
the gun. So if he loaded the gun, he said no,
it was loaded and not playing off the gun. So
they're contradicting each other. Even the medical examiner said that.

Speaker 9 (45:52):
And even if the other guy should have still went
to the police, why is he just dropping him off
at the hospital. Nobody's calling the police to say any thing.
I mean, that's the biggest red flag of the whole
entire thing. Is worth is hid.

Speaker 4 (46:04):
So they were friends for a long time. I felt
like they just have this BS story to like cover
it up obviously, just I mean, I don't understand like
why it was even okay, like if they're contradicting each other,
obviously somebody's line like can you like investigate a little
bit more and act like like they pretty much Philadelphia

(46:25):
Hamas had acted like my husband's death with a joke.
And even worst of all, his father was a cop.
His father was a cop, and the detective knew his father.
That's that's the sick part. And it's so deep that
I think that it's like, did this detective have beef
with my husband's father and just now he's just don't
give a shit anymore? Like like what is.

Speaker 9 (46:43):
There no accountability in their office? And think about it.
When Krasner got in, he fired everybody. So the people
that would have been, you know, wanting to try cases. Krasner,
you know, he fired everyone. This is this is unbelievable.
And the crazier part is there's a lot of similarities
to your case and what went on with Sean's case.
When they feel like they want to, oh, we're just

(47:05):
going to change this. We just decided, and then we're
going to withhold the evidence that we feel like withholding.

Speaker 4 (47:10):
Whatever it's going to well, I know they were holding.
Let me tell you something. When I had a meeting
back with the Heather Arias Bahamici advocates, I'm sorry.

Speaker 9 (47:19):
You have a paper trail of everything.

Speaker 4 (47:20):
I mean, the.

Speaker 9 (47:22):
From the autopsy report to just everything and the way
that they're handling. I mean, it's abusive process. It's a
lot of different things, but I mean it's just it's crazy.

Speaker 4 (47:33):
They make me, they act like I'm crazy, and then
they they circle me around. It's like everything they were
telling me, they were telling me. But I'm like, well,
what's documented. I remember going to a meeting back in May.
I want to say it was twenty twenty two or
twenty twenty three. I'm sorry, a lot has happened, and
I remember it was an former Ada and Derek Combe,

(47:54):
it was Heather Arius, it was joe Ane Pascatory, it
was the two detectives. I remember how in a meaning,
not liking what they were telling me, getting questioned how
old are you? What don't you get are you in therapy?
Laura Cruft tells me, yeah, yep. Lauren Cruft tells me,
whatever you got to do to tell yourself why your
husband's dead, just do it. The detective told me it

(48:18):
was Ryan because it was the way the bullet went through,
it was the height in the frame. I said, that's
not in its autopsy. That is not in its autopsy.
That should have been in this autopsy because that is
medical documentation. And we won't even be here right now.
That's why you know you you you stand up for
what you believe in. You stand up for people that
you love, like he's he's not from Jay, piece of

(48:40):
shit swint, He's he's Ryan, where he's a good hearted person.
Does not deserve this? Nobody is Yeah, yeah, nobody does.
I'm sorry. Nobody's deserved this. How is it would handle
like as a victim?

Speaker 9 (48:58):
No victim should ever have to go through that, No wife,
no mother, you know, no sibling. It's a hard it's
the hardest thing to already go through a loss at
this level. But just knowing that this he's not even
a person, he's a soulas like I don't even, I
can't even. It infuriates me. I mean the racism that
he's tried to promote, like whatever fits their narrative. They

(49:19):
don't care how they use people's real lives and the
real tragedies that go on.

Speaker 1 (49:24):
And Okay, so is Matthew Okay, So Ryan's father was
a police officer? Is that right?

Speaker 4 (49:36):
Yeah, I've never met him.

Speaker 1 (49:38):
Okay, so is uh Detective Matthew farley'stile part of the
Philadelphia Police Department. Yeah, he is great, Jake, do you
know him.

Speaker 6 (49:55):
I think he got the homicide after I was gone,
but I think he used to work in Southwest Detectives
before he went to homicide. It's just a lot of
things here, I mean, I just wouldn't do. And of
course I'm getting your side right now, Julian, and I
like to I like to get all my facts in order,
and that's why I'm.

Speaker 2 (50:15):
Doing a lot of listening.

Speaker 6 (50:17):
It's just a lot of things aren't adding up to
a way of homicide investigation, and even your communication with
the DF.

Speaker 2 (50:26):
Of course I know the chief.

Speaker 6 (50:30):
I guess Joanne would have been the chief at the
time you went there in twenty twenty two of homicide
at the DA's office. I would have communicated with you
every step of the way, and I would have been
honest with you. I mean quite frankly. I told you,
I'm not giving you any information regarding the investigation, but
I will take any information you give me, and I

(50:51):
will follow up investigate on that information, because I don't
like to contaminate things by giving you stuff. But it
would have been determined early on, in my opinion, whether
or not uh Ryan shot himself, and I would have communicated.
You know, I would have asked all those hard questions,
because when you're dealing with death, unfortunately, it.

Speaker 2 (51:14):
Is hard questions that you get used to asking people.

Speaker 6 (51:19):
I would have not let all the people who were
whether they were outside or inside, in the bathroom, in
the yard, they would all gave me an interview, because
then I could have compared that with Swanks and McEwan
and all that other stuff. I would have charged McEwen with.
If you if your information is correct, I would have
charged them with sixty one o five violation of uniform

(51:42):
FIREMAC would have for a convicted felon. You know, I
would have started a lot of a lot of things
that I don't know why, Detective Farley, I don't know
if he did him or if he didn't do him.
If he did do him, he didn't relate what he
did to you. And that's a problem with me, because

(52:05):
we're not there when someone gets killed, we'reever there. We
got to rely on information that comes to us, and
the only way sometimes the best information you get is
family cooperation, witness cooperation. So a lot of things done here,
And I'm honestly tempted to call at some point and say, hey,
what what the hell went on here?

Speaker 2 (52:26):
I mean, they know me.

Speaker 6 (52:27):
I may not know him personally, but a lot of
people in the Field Police Department know me or know
of me, and I might just ask him straight up, Yo,
what did you do here?

Speaker 2 (52:36):
Is Julia full of crap? Did you tell her things?
Did you not tell her things? You know?

Speaker 6 (52:42):
And I'm saying that because I will say it to you.
I already knew that one thing you said, now one
one you should have went straight to Temple Rocks.

Speaker 2 (52:51):
You know what was the Snorkel station? Was that Rigide Midfield?
Was it? The other one? On on.

Speaker 6 (53:00):
Wherever Swank said they met? Why does give the wrong name?
Who's the guy who's on the run. There's there's too
many questions. Was that guy in the kitchen? Is he
threatening somebody? Was it more than just Daniel and Shank?

Speaker 2 (53:14):
Was it three? Was it four people?

Speaker 6 (53:16):
You don't know that till you ask, then answer for
interview all the people who was at.

Speaker 2 (53:20):
The party or whatever you want to call it.

Speaker 6 (53:22):
There's just a lot, there's a lot of missing pieces
on the autos. Reporter says a sailing Now you're telling
me it's an accidental death. Well that should have that
should be updated. We do what's called activity sheets. Every
little bit of information, no matter what day you write
on the activity sheet. I talked to Julia Forbes on

(53:42):
whatever day it says Julie or whatever. I don't work
every day, so you lose track of date sometimes and.

Speaker 2 (53:49):
I write that down. Julia told me this, this, this, this, this.

Speaker 6 (53:53):
I talked to the medical examiner and they said, there's
a contact wound on Ryan's You know a lot of
the cross you you know you did, you are correct?
A lot of some of the most dailiest shots is
when and Greg are justified at this and pick maybe
John too. When they go across you know you have,
you have less less of a chance then when they're

(54:14):
straight on. Unfortunately, so there's a lot of questions four
days later going to the crime scene. I've never been
notified of a homicide and wasn't ordered to go right
out to three forty six. I'd have been there that night, right.

Speaker 9 (54:32):
It's a process, just the way that they're handling everything
in general.

Speaker 4 (54:37):
If they're sloppy, like I'm not like, why didn't you
look into the spe cards? Why Like I want to
know if you have a victim that is deceased or
a gun invob in a case, why don't you test
that person? Is that? Is that like do you have
to do that?

Speaker 9 (54:53):
Or they're hoping is that just like so many other cases,
they're hoping that you just won't do You won't just
look into it. You'll just let the time go by
and you won't just keep you know, asking those questions
because unfortunately, everybody's in their everyday, real lives, taking care
of their families. You know a lot of people they
never get, you know, the answers that they actually deserve.

(55:15):
You know, you're fighting, you've.

Speaker 6 (55:17):
Got a lot of people ask You've got a lot
of people at that party, and why was it only
Swank to take them to the hospital. I mean, if
it's an accident or something like that, why wouldn't it
be all hisns on deck? Hey, let's get right to
the hospital. If they're friends.

Speaker 4 (55:31):
Yeah, right, Why did he stay there? Why did he
give them the wrong name and leave like he was nothing?

Speaker 1 (55:38):
That's appalling. So is a DA Lauren crumbstill at the
DA's office.

Speaker 4 (55:46):
I know she is. And when I started a question
again recently, apparently she pulled out, pulled out of my
husband's case. She wanted nothing to do with it anymore.

Speaker 6 (55:55):
Okay, I think she might. I think she might be
prosecuting the So I just, oh.

Speaker 1 (56:01):
Wow, really, I think we'll talk about that in the
second hour. But Julia, can you stick around? We have
to go to break, but I just to stick around
a little bit after the break, and then we're going
to let you go. Okay, can you stick around? Okay,

(56:23):
everybody will be right back. Okay, just hang in there. Okay,
we're back right. So we just had a out. He's there. Briefly,
I just wanted to reintroduce you to everybody that we've
got here. We've got Detective Jake Jacobs from Philadelphia, AMA
side now, Sir Paul shootey you, and we have our

(56:43):
correspondent from Tennessee, veteran NCI especial agent, Greg Islands. We've
got Megan Heaton, correspondent to the Rudy Giuni Show as
well as a executive producer, and we'll get to that.
And then we have a Julia Forbes in regard to

(57:03):
a cold case of epic proportion in Yeah, a death
that took place in Roxbury as a result of an
incident and the investigation seems all screwed up from what
we can understand. So, uh, Julia, we really appreciate you

(57:26):
taking a time to be with us and.

Speaker 4 (57:28):
Thank you for having me. I appreciate your.

Speaker 2 (57:32):
You know, the.

Speaker 1 (57:34):
It's if I understand it correctly. Just to bring people
up to speed. The cause of death was initially ruled
a homicide and was subsequently changed to undetermined. Correct right,
And we've got okay you and the residents where it

(58:00):
heard in Roxbury. Roxboro was not the subject of a
crime crime scene investigation until four days afterwards.

Speaker 4 (58:11):
Three to four days That's what I was told.

Speaker 1 (58:15):
Yeah, and your your husband who was a victim of
all this was initially provided sent to driven driven to
the Roxboro hospital and the individual that drove him there, uh,

(58:38):
gave them the wrong name. Correct, And then he was
transferred to Temple who has has a drama center, and
with his ID and everything on him, they figured out
that it was your husband. Yes, okay. So and then

(58:59):
that night January twenty eighth of twenty twenty two, detective
Matthew Farley and another detective that you can't remember his name,
but they notified you of your husband's death. Yes, And
they subsequently then identified the medical examiner identified ruled the

(59:27):
death as a homicide.

Speaker 4 (59:30):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (59:31):
And the individual that was the suspect died in July
of twenty twenty two, right, and after his death they
ruled it. They ruled your husband's death undetermined.

Speaker 4 (59:52):
Correct and was never tested.

Speaker 1 (59:57):
Yeah, So there was none no gunshot residue test of
your husband's hands, correct.

Speaker 4 (01:00:05):
Because I was told that too many people touched them
in the ambulance and the O r there there was
no point.

Speaker 9 (01:00:13):
Negligence.

Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
That's who the hell said that? And what Harley if
that was the case, is that Farley said that I.

Speaker 4 (01:00:22):
Thought I was told because I asked multiple times.

Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
Okay, So okay, So this took place on twenty eight
January twenty twenty two, which isn't that far away from now.
So if you know any thing about this case and

(01:00:49):
what the hell happened in that house at three forty
six Del Ran in Roxboro, you know, call us get
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let us know what the hell is going on. Because
it's a disjointed investigator. It sounds like there's investigative failures

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there from what we're hearing, right.

Speaker 4 (01:01:17):
Yeah, and there were scobags there too that I don't
want to speak up because they're scared. You knew they
knew his name.

Speaker 2 (01:01:28):
I'm assuming that Dan's name.

Speaker 6 (01:01:31):
Slank gave Dan's name up because evidently he didn't go
to the hospital, so they had to track down and
they didn't have a gun.

Speaker 2 (01:01:38):
So how did they connect Qan to the Sun?

Speaker 4 (01:01:43):
Well, I gave them Swank's name. Swank. They had to
find Swank apparently, and I guess Slank nick game uh
McEwan's name. When whenever Farley went to the house, apparently,
Dan was like, I don't even know why you're here.

Speaker 1 (01:02:02):
Oh great, okay, so well, who dropped him off the
hospital again?

Speaker 4 (01:02:11):
James swam where he's at?

Speaker 1 (01:02:13):
This guy in his.

Speaker 4 (01:02:14):
Own car he left. Yeah, he my husband's own car
just left him like he was nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:02:23):
All right, Okay? What did Ryan have a car at
the residence?

Speaker 4 (01:02:28):
Ryan drove Jay there? That was Jay's friend.

Speaker 1 (01:02:33):
God, no, boy, but this is you're being told that
this is the suspect.

Speaker 4 (01:02:41):
And he said that was just backed and then he
passed away, and then all of a sudden everything was
Ryan Ryan Ryan, and then Farley said, that's the witnesses.
That's what they said. So let's just believe scumbbags and
felons and that's okay to live on life.

Speaker 1 (01:03:01):
Not acceptable, not not acceptable. This has you know, I
don't know, it's shades of a suicide. We've talked about
it in Indiana. And then you know it's being run

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by the people that did the Ellen Greenberg days. I mean, unbelievable. So, Julie,
you know, I mean, on the face of it, there's
a lot of problems with this, you know. Matthew Farley,

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I mean, if you want to join us and tell
us what the hell happened, you know, what you did.
We'd love to hear it. The same thing applies to
a da Lauren Grump.

Speaker 6 (01:03:56):
Well, i'll tell you Farley won't be able to come on,
but maybe Crump could. The police part will never let
they'll they'll see you to the Public Affairs office, public
information office.

Speaker 1 (01:04:07):
Yeah, have you, Julia? Have you? I think I mentioned
this before. Have you gotten any police reports through the
through the freedom of information asiam actor or the Pennsylvania Laude?

Speaker 4 (01:04:22):
And you know I got nothing. I got nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:04:27):
Okay, have you been approached by anybody subsequent to this
with the information?

Speaker 4 (01:04:34):
No? I mean I approach other people to ask questions,
of course. I mean I've seen Jaslank in the Dollar
Tree and I had words with him and he didn't
know anything. And then the guy Brian McCarthy who told
Ryan not to go there that night, he actually made
a comment to me, I don't think he's a great person,
but he wasn't there that night, so I really can't

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get mad. Did he know something? I don't know? Maybe,
but he got a vibe which I didn't say nothing
to him about that. He got the impression that farly
off the Gate was trying to say Ryan did it.
What happened? You say, Ryan did it when you didn't
even do a full investigation. You're he was only the
second person he questioned, And I didn't bring that up.

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He did.

Speaker 1 (01:05:17):
Yeah, I.

Speaker 9 (01:05:19):
Didn't want to do the work. They like that pay
with the case not getting solved in him am I.

Speaker 1 (01:05:28):
Am I crazy? I get the impression that it's a
homicide until the original suspect as an overdose and dies
and then all of a sudden it's undetermined and they're
out of.

Speaker 4 (01:05:40):
It exactly what happened, or they are treated my husband
like he was trashed because he was associated with shitty
drug overdose.

Speaker 9 (01:05:50):
And they do close a lot of cases that they
should be looking into a lot more, and sometimes when
anything with drugs, they will like overlook it.

Speaker 1 (01:05:58):
Well, you know, I don't don't want to harp on
this to death, but look at the Ellen Greenberg case.
I mean, my god, that's done yet.

Speaker 9 (01:06:06):
I don't think that's done yet. Because even a lot
of people talking about this with Shapiro and obviously Krasner,
and they're both obviously I feel like that they're in
cahoots together for many reasons that.

Speaker 1 (01:06:17):
Were Yeah, because of the father of the suspect.

Speaker 9 (01:06:23):
Yeah, he was one of the I've what I've read
is that that's one of his major donors to his campaign.
And the fact that there was conversations. I feel like
there was conversations before even nine to one one was called.
I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure I've read
a lot of different cases. Yeah, yeah, but I mean

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just yeah, I mean, that's insane.

Speaker 1 (01:06:45):
Not to get off track here, but if you've ever
heard the nine to eleven call from the suspect to
the police, you know there's something, there's some kind of problem.
You wouldn't have that kind of calms fabricating a alibi
via the nine to eleven car.

Speaker 9 (01:07:06):
It's crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:07:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:07:07):
Also, I wanted just to add something else because there's
one thing in common with these three cases that we're
talking about. Even in Shawan's case, the nine one one
when they were calling, there was nobody answering the phone,
and I know that she had mentioned the nine one
one scenario two. It's kind of crazy to me that
in more than one case and many, I should say
that there's an issue where when people are in an

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actual emergency calling nine to one one in Philadelphia, that
there's nobody answering. So the fact that we have like
multiple just know about it, I mean, how many others
you know, there's no real accountability.

Speaker 1 (01:07:41):
Yeah, well, you know, we got to try everything we
can to get accountability for Julia because it's absolutely this
is appalling. This whole thing is appalling.

Speaker 6 (01:07:54):
Can you spell the name of the street because I'm
trying to find it and I can't find it.

Speaker 4 (01:07:58):
So I want to say, I believe it was three
four three six or three four six Dell ran Dell
run something like that.

Speaker 6 (01:08:12):
Because on all times reporter got it doesn't have an
address address and that's that.

Speaker 4 (01:08:18):
Yeah, unknown It said time, place of injury, unspecified place.
I have it right here in front of me, but
I don't know that the address is probably going to
be on here.

Speaker 1 (01:08:36):
That's ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (01:08:41):
Wow, how did they tracked down Shrank? How did they
track down Swank?

Speaker 6 (01:08:45):
Because he was gone and obviously unfortunately Ryan passed away,
So how did they get to.

Speaker 4 (01:08:53):
I had to confirm that that was Slank in the
picture when he dropped them off at rock bro He
didn't even he was just like in the you know
when you walk in the hospital that the doors open.
He stopped right there didn't go all the way in
and from there. I gave him the name, and I
know they picked them up at his job. I think
it was at a car shop somehow. I don't know
how they fully got ahold of him. I'm thinking maybe

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Brian McCarthy led them to him.

Speaker 9 (01:09:20):
Not recording a crime.

Speaker 4 (01:09:22):
I mean, well, apparently from victim's compensation, there was no
crime done, so your crime happened.

Speaker 1 (01:09:33):
Yeah, so oh good. I mean we've had this conversation before,
Jake Greg. I mean you know they have not You
didn't have a you had to go find yourself, your
own advocate.

Speaker 4 (01:09:50):
Yeah, because they's not for communication. I'm like, wait, you're
telling me that my husband had no rap sheet and
these two did. One pleaded guilty danity theft under Dan
McEwan's rap sheet. That didn't matter, So that would make
sense about the bank accounts being opened, the gunny wasn't
supposed to have, like I don't. That's the thing. I

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never saw video statements. They really didn't let me see anything.
Like just just like the pre status that I was
allowed to go to, I was told I didn't need
to be there. I want to know what that scumbag
Jay said, to the detective because they got for for
some reason, it seemed like they both the DA and
Tarley believe these two guys and Ryan and have a

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rap sheet. I don't understand, Like whatever they said just goes.
Is that how it works out? Yes, you didn't do
a full investigation. If you would have did a full investigation,
if you would detested him, look into the SD cards.
They told me to go look myself at Northwestern Detectives.
Do that myself. If you did all what you were

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supposed to do, I will be here right now. Yes,
he was my husband, he was my best friend. But
who other? Who else have you done that too? It's
not fair? Who else is going to speak up? What
let's just fold her hands because you got a badge. No,
I don't think that's fair.

Speaker 1 (01:11:08):
Yeah, I agree. Do you guys have any other questions
of Julia?

Speaker 3 (01:11:13):
What's the current status of the investigation? Is it closed
or what are they telling you?

Speaker 4 (01:11:18):
So my husband shot himself accidentally and they closed it
out without even telling me?

Speaker 1 (01:11:26):
How did you figure that out? Did you call him?

Speaker 4 (01:11:30):
I just dealt with them. I dealt with homicide, asked
like Heather Arius she told me that they closed it
out and again going back to after the Plumbary trial,
nobody was getting back to me. They said, the reason
why nobody's getting the reason why he's not getting back
to you is he didn't give in, to give his
findings in. And that's when the whole all tipsy changed.
But like I'm sitting there and dealing with victims of

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compensation telling me to pour my heart out, try to
get victims compensation, and I'm doing all this and they
just reject me. It's like, no matter what I said,
now what I did, they shot me down. You're crazy?
Are you in therapy? What don't you get? Like, no,
I don't get it. The story doesn't make sense to me.
We got eminem here like what this isn't shutter bomb

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shooting himself in the leg and living like he's gone.
He's not calling me back, he has no boy, I'm
this boy.

Speaker 1 (01:12:20):
You're not being fair exactly.

Speaker 6 (01:12:23):
Even if you are crazy, Julia, I mean your husband
was mured. I mean your husband was murdered. That that's
going to affect anyone's psyche in my opinion, Yeah, you
got enough one. If you got a love one who
just dies, it affects your psyche but when your loved
ones murdered, or however, since they're not now and all

(01:12:44):
of a sudden, it's not a murder any longer. It's undetermined.

Speaker 9 (01:12:47):
You're not getting anything.

Speaker 6 (01:12:48):
But you're not getting any answers to the death of
your husband. It's going to make you want to make
most people a little bit more agitated. Just depend it, Mildy, right.

Speaker 3 (01:13:01):
So, now that the case is closed in Philadelphia, would
she be able to get that information via foil? Like
she said a lot of things there a little while
back that after mckw and I, they they changed their
whole narrative. That information that she said would have to
be encapsulated in either some kind of interview or something

(01:13:22):
like it. Would she be able to get access to
that info?

Speaker 2 (01:13:25):
She would have to explosed investigation allegedly is closed. I'm
not sure.

Speaker 6 (01:13:30):
I'm not sure if it's closed. One person say it's undetermined.
They telling you off the record, he shot himself. That
is that in an official report? And if it was
in an official report, wouldn't that been in James and
Daniel's original statement. Evidently Daniel didn't say that because Daniel
was dead when they made that determination. So he didn't

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say it. Did James go back and give other statements?
Did they talk to other people who was out there?
Did they how long?

Speaker 2 (01:13:58):
How long after Ryan's death did they changed the.

Speaker 4 (01:14:07):
I got it right here, So you know, it's another
thing to your real quick just to say something the DA.
I'm not going to go through. It's all entire top,
whole entire autopsy with the DA told me that my
husband had every drug in his system. That's why I
he sat himself right. But I said, well, how do
you know that.

Speaker 9 (01:14:28):
They did the same exact thing with Sean and then
they tried to portray him as some kind of drug
addict or something to see.

Speaker 4 (01:14:33):
That's what they're doing at Ryan.

Speaker 9 (01:14:34):
There's no question.

Speaker 4 (01:14:36):
So then I said, well, how do you know that
you don't have an autopsy back? I said, is it
back yet? She said no. I said, how do you.

Speaker 9 (01:14:41):
Know that I just met this assessment right on somebody's life.

Speaker 4 (01:14:44):
Unbelievable. I said, okay, let me let me call the
the like, what is it the coroner's office? And it's
just the autopsy, she said, missus Ford. It's been back
since April. So I'm going to get it and there
is no no there was was not every drug inist,
So first of all, you lied about that, So now
I don't even trust you, right, That's what I wanted

(01:15:05):
to say, and I wanted to say. Harley had the
nerve to ask me if I shot Damn mchewan. I said,
I'm not. God, you're worried about that guy when you're
not worried about my husband's case. That's wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:15:19):
So Damn McEwen was shot.

Speaker 4 (01:15:22):
I thought, he I'm sorry, No, he overjokes. But they
didn't know that. I had to tell them that because
they weren't following a guy like I felt like it
just it just stopped, like all the communications stop. But
like they didn't know anything. How do you not know that?

Speaker 9 (01:15:37):
One?

Speaker 6 (01:15:39):
And Trump told you that he shot himself because he
was high on drugs.

Speaker 2 (01:15:45):
That's not her determination to make.

Speaker 6 (01:15:47):
Where's that statement if someone said it has to be
because you just can't form that opinion to say that
he's so whacked out on drugs without someone there saying, hey.

Speaker 2 (01:15:58):
He's so whacked out on drugs.

Speaker 6 (01:15:59):
He was playing with the gun, he throw it up
in the air, four walls, he grabbed his left hand
and shot himself.

Speaker 2 (01:16:05):
You gotta have the information. He can't even if the autopsy.

Speaker 6 (01:16:11):
Comes back that he had this this, he had five
thousand drugs one even if you did.

Speaker 2 (01:16:18):
It doesn't make a difference.

Speaker 6 (01:16:19):
You can't still make that leap that he shot himself
because he had those five thousand drugs in the system.

Speaker 4 (01:16:23):
Well that's but it wasn't in there. That's the one
of thing. Jay Swang told the detective that he was
so drunk right that he drove to the Sonoko and
that wasn't true. He lied on. He lied on. Oh
that's they said. This didn't matter. He was just scared
and nervous. But you're still lying. I don't get it.

Speaker 9 (01:16:47):
The victim, it's insane.

Speaker 4 (01:16:48):
Let me tell you. He got me so heated. He said.
It didn't happen after Sonoko. It happened at three or
four six doll rant. I went to the Sinako. I said,
you got to have goes. Yeah. I want to know
why you didn't go there from the gates because you
can't do somebody. So going back to the all copy,

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they changed it August nineteenth of twenty twenty two and died.
Say it again.

Speaker 2 (01:17:19):
What was the date of Ryan's death?

Speaker 4 (01:17:22):
January twenty eighth of twenty twenty.

Speaker 2 (01:17:24):
Two, so seven months later, and when it was Daniel.

Speaker 4 (01:17:28):
Case Lann died, so.

Speaker 6 (01:17:33):
A month less than a month after Dan died. They
changed it to undetermined or whatever they changed it to.

Speaker 2 (01:17:41):
Who did they speak to?

Speaker 6 (01:17:42):
Because what you're telling me, the only two witnesses there
was James and Dan. Obviously Dan between July twenty third
and August and nineteenth. So how many more interviews do
they have with James Swain?

Speaker 4 (01:17:57):
I don't know. All I can say is that the
only thing that the adena was on there is the
two statements that contradicted each other, Jay's statement and Dan's statement.
Jay said his last words where you never told me
the gun with Luden? Dan said that Ryan loaded the gun,
put up to his body and shot himself. And Ryan
loaded the gun. He would have knew what was in there.

(01:18:18):
He went to the shooting range, he knew. He wasn't
new to the game or anything. He knew what happened
when you play off the gun.

Speaker 2 (01:18:24):
Was that in his original statement or a later statement?

Speaker 4 (01:18:30):
You know what?

Speaker 9 (01:18:33):
Either way, why didn't he go report that himself? Like
that's the big red flag number one. If that's your
friend and you have their car while you're dropping this
person off. You don't think to call their wife. You
don't think to go to the police.

Speaker 4 (01:18:46):
Or to check.

Speaker 9 (01:18:47):
I mean, it's the craziest thing that would It's just
how much more evidence do you need that?

Speaker 4 (01:18:56):
Say it again?

Speaker 2 (01:18:58):
Who got rid of the gun?

Speaker 4 (01:19:00):
Damn m chilling?

Speaker 2 (01:19:02):
How do we know that did well?

Speaker 6 (01:19:08):
Jake oh j claims that because Dan would have had
to been to a crime, which you'd probably been having
to grand guys don't have an attorney to say that
I was a convicted killing with the gun that was
used to that your husband used to shoot himself.

Speaker 4 (01:19:22):
So Dan did get an attorney, and he laughed the
whole time on the plumb right trial before all. I know,
you know it wasn't Jay. I don't know what was
he on trial for. Jay was a witness. I guess
he asked what happened that night, and then that's what
Jay was saying, Ryan was too drunk to drive, which
wasn't true. Uh as than he got rid of the gun,

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as than he clean he cleaned up the prime scene.

Speaker 2 (01:19:48):
No, you said he got a lawyer, I don't.

Speaker 6 (01:19:50):
You don't normally need a lawyer if you're just the
witness because of the prosecution.

Speaker 4 (01:19:55):
Dan Dan got, Dan got the lawyer Jay didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:19:58):
Yeah, why did Dan need a.

Speaker 4 (01:20:02):
Because he got far all the arrested him because he
he tampered with evidence and had a gun. He said
that he wasn't for that have.

Speaker 9 (01:20:10):
Oh so I wonder if he even got any charges
for that gun.

Speaker 2 (01:20:14):
So it there should be a statement for Miranda statement.

Speaker 3 (01:20:17):
And they went to work the crime scene at the
house and he said that, you know, the place was
cleaned up and the gun's gone. That's why they were
looking at Dan at that point.

Speaker 4 (01:20:28):
I don't even think that's in the I don't even
think that's in the all topsy.

Speaker 3 (01:20:32):
Well, you would have two different reports, so you have
the corner who does the autops report, and then you
have a separate one that investigation being done by Philadelphia,
so you you have two different things going on there, right.

Speaker 4 (01:20:45):
So I never got that last piece of paperwork then.

Speaker 3 (01:20:49):
But you can get it.

Speaker 1 (01:20:50):
Yeah, we only have twenty minutes apparent left apparently, But Julia,
we really appreciate taking the time to be with this
at the rule.

Speaker 4 (01:21:01):
Thank you for having me. I appreciate you.

Speaker 1 (01:21:03):
We'd like to have you back.

Speaker 4 (01:21:06):
I definitely I would love it.

Speaker 1 (01:21:08):
Yeah, So, you know, Detective Matthew Farley from Philadelphia Homicide,
we'd love to talk to you about this. You know,
what the hell happened? Okay, same thing applies to assistance
to Scrattorney Lauren Crump. We'd like to have an opportunity

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to understand it from your perspective. What the hell happened.
We've got a circumstance where the you know, cause of
death is ruled a homicide and then changed to undetermined
after the suspect dies one month less than a month
after the suspect dies. What's going on? If you know
anything about this case, give us the call, or you know,

(01:21:56):
send us an email at Search Warrant podcast dot com
use the contact page. Okay, So, Julia, thank you very
much and we certainly want to have you back.

Speaker 4 (01:22:10):
Okay, sound great. Thank you guys. I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (01:22:13):
Thank you, Charlie, thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:22:14):
Take care, bye bye bye.

Speaker 2 (01:22:17):
Hey.

Speaker 1 (01:22:17):
I wanted to get to this a quick because bills
to say in the will we have twenty minutes long.
So and I know this is a big deal. So,
you know, the sergeant Fitzgerald and that's his father and
his mother from the from the right, his father, his mother,

(01:22:42):
Sergeant Fitzgerald, and his wife, right, yes, okay, and this
is his father who happens to be the police chief
of the Denver Transit already.

Speaker 6 (01:22:58):
Right, yeah, I think he's still there. I'm not one
hundred percent sure, but I think he's still there.

Speaker 1 (01:23:04):
He should be the commissioner of the pensive of the
Philadelphia Police Department.

Speaker 2 (01:23:09):
You know, the other guy's too political.

Speaker 1 (01:23:11):
But that trial is going on now, right right, Trump?

Speaker 9 (01:23:17):
When last year when they had Matt Gates come to
Philadelphia and they were trying to do the articles of
impeachment against Krasner, remember that it was actually it was
I think on the judiciary dot um website. They had
the father on their uh speaking on the panel, and
Matt Gates was there too, but they had different victims

(01:23:38):
and people that know that story. I mean, it's pretty unbelievable,
and especially to come from you know, a police background
family and to have your the story, I mean, what
went on with their with their son's pretty unbelievable.

Speaker 6 (01:23:53):
Only copic cras that alike is a dead one or
one that's incarcerated. You know, you can look at Sergeant
Fitzgerald's case. He showed the body warn camera for maximum
effect in the Mark dialleshooting that he doctored, by the way,
but he didn't show the body worn or the surveillance

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camera in the.

Speaker 2 (01:24:15):
Sergeant Fitzgerald case. Because what you would have.

Speaker 6 (01:24:17):
Seen, which was shown in that courtroom the last couple
of days, is Feiffer standing over Sergeant Fitzgerald, pumping bullets
in him, been trying to rob him.

Speaker 2 (01:24:26):
So you would have had outrage. He wouldn't have been a.

Speaker 6 (01:24:30):
Get away with taking the death penalty off the table,
and then the family wouldn't have had to go through
this nonsense because if he thought he would have got
deaf at a trial at one, so he would have
they would allow him to plead the life with no
possibility to role and family wouldn't have to go through
watching his son get assassinated twenty times in the courtroom.

Speaker 1 (01:24:49):
Yeah, that's horrific. That's horrific. The uh if you're not
familiar with this, yeah, case the sergeant Fitzgerald, he was executed,
a police officer executed in Philadelphia by a uh piece
of ship excuse me, yeah, from the from the suburbs.

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A and it's.

Speaker 6 (01:25:18):
Been charged too, and you talked about the weapon. In
Julia's case, there's they got rid of the weapon here.
The mother came and removed him, and he did a
car jacking, you know, just.

Speaker 2 (01:25:31):
Like the weapon.

Speaker 9 (01:25:33):
There's no accountability for any of these people when they're
touching the weapons and doing all of these things. But
you know, and you can have.

Speaker 4 (01:25:41):
It's just.

Speaker 2 (01:25:43):
He destroyed.

Speaker 1 (01:25:43):
There was a big, huge blanket over Philadelphia. Unaccountable.

Speaker 9 (01:25:47):
The black cloud is what it is.

Speaker 1 (01:25:50):
So uh yeah, that's.

Speaker 9 (01:25:52):
Philly is like Gotham with no Batman exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:25:57):
Know, Hey, Bill, how much time do we left? I
just want to can you chellis?

Speaker 2 (01:26:05):
Bill? Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:26:07):
Fifteen minutes? Okay, Look, you know the root cause of
all this problem in Philadelphia is Larry Krasner, and I
just want you to see railing like a criminal. It's
really not that complicated.

Speaker 11 (01:26:27):
Criminals don't like me, Criminals don't like my administration. Criminals
don't like me for a reason, and that is because,
unlike the President of the United States, who has thirty
four felony convictions and therefore can candidly and honestly be.

Speaker 12 (01:26:42):
Called a criminal, which is what he is.

Speaker 11 (01:26:46):
Unlike him, I believe in equality.

Speaker 1 (01:26:50):
He does not.

Speaker 12 (01:26:51):
You know this because of the talk about black pilots.

Speaker 7 (01:26:54):
You know this because of all.

Speaker 12 (01:26:56):
This weaponization around diversity, equity and inclusion. You know this
by the fact that he has been endorsed in two
separate election cycles by the ku Klux Klan. You know
this because his own grandfather was arrested as a member
of the ku Klux Klan.

Speaker 2 (01:27:12):
Okay, you know what he is.

Speaker 1 (01:27:15):
He is a racist, He is a.

Speaker 12 (01:27:16):
Criminal, and he very very very much like Adolf Hitler,
does not believe an equality who called equality a degenerate notion.

Speaker 9 (01:27:25):
Well, wow, I mean, I mean, I have no words.
We have bigger problems in this city for this, For
this person to sit here, first of all, again trying
to be a celebrity, trying to have your moment on
the world stage and in the public arena. You know,
there's no need to be talking about Trump. What does

(01:27:47):
Trump have to do with your job and what you're
doing in Philadelphia.

Speaker 1 (01:27:50):
He's projecting. Of course, another.

Speaker 9 (01:27:55):
Thing is the racism, and he wants to keep bringing
that up. I mean I remember very vividly.

Speaker 1 (01:28:00):
Uh.

Speaker 9 (01:28:01):
You know, in Sewan's case, if it wasn't for times
have changed, a black man wouldn't have a chance at justice.
These are the headlines that was going on. Let's not
forget Shawn is just one case, you know, So if
we want to talk about who's promoting racism and wants
to promote divide and and obviously, you know, with everything,
the more and more every day plays out, the more

(01:28:22):
people are realizing in general that they've all been lied
to and that they've been duped and the Democrat Party
they've used people.

Speaker 1 (01:28:30):
To promote liberty. Lindy lou As, you know, I wouldn't
trust that coms out of his mouth, Yes, exactly.

Speaker 9 (01:28:40):
Okay, Hey, look Kka and Adolph Hitler. I mean it's insane.
I mean I thought it was crazy when he was
saying that Republicans and I quote deserve to get punched
in the face. You're inciting you're inciting violence. I mean,
you get the charge for doing things like that.

Speaker 1 (01:28:54):
We have another clip of Krasner, but I just want
to I don't want to give him the time, you
know what I mean, he's eds a criminal and he's
projecting himself.

Speaker 6 (01:29:05):
So whatever, Hey, uh we need we need a video
of him getting her walked.

Speaker 9 (01:29:11):
Yeah, come boys, I really believe it. The best is
yet the comic exactly now.

Speaker 1 (01:29:17):
As I mentioned right, Megan is a correspondent to the
Rudy Julian Show. But not only that, she's an executive
producer of uh some pretty happy duty ship. Excuse my French,
but I want to run those so we can talk

(01:29:37):
about that a little bit. Can we do that? Megan?

Speaker 9 (01:29:40):
Is it?

Speaker 1 (01:29:40):
Okay? Let me uh? We have the greatest show on Earth? Three?
And then a second trailer clip, do you care which
which I get?

Speaker 9 (01:29:53):
A show on Earth? Part three? Saving Israel for a
last This movie is basically the missing link to understand
the delicate situation that Trump is involved in with Israel
and the deep State. Okay, so with what is playing
out in real time right now politically.

Speaker 1 (01:30:11):
Right, So it's the shorter clip. I think if I
screw this up, let me know, but let's run these.
So here we go. For the first one.

Speaker 8 (01:30:29):
What if I told you the Final War wasn't fought
with bullets, but with belief.

Speaker 13 (01:30:35):
What if race, religion, and nation were merged into one
global lie. What if the story of Israel wasn't but
you were told a religion turned into a race, a
homeland built on strategy, a deep state protected by myth

(01:30:55):
and what if one man followed a plan to expose
it all.

Speaker 1 (01:31:01):
We are saving.

Speaker 13 (01:31:02):
Israel for the last, very specific reason not mentioned a
single time. This isn't just a movie.

Speaker 14 (01:31:11):
It's a mirror and the reflection is horrified, from the
false flags to the final move. This is the awakening
that tried to stop. You're not just watching y history.

Speaker 1 (01:31:23):
You're excited, Megan, Who can How can people see this?

Speaker 9 (01:31:47):
Good lie? Dot TV? You can see it also the
previous there's uh, there's a British show on Earth one
and two which in part one, uh talk about Trump's
capituation tour. And I just want to add a sidebar
that Trump has actually retruthed Greatest Show on Earth part one.
So that tells you right there that you know great

(01:32:09):
what it is that's being said.

Speaker 1 (01:32:11):
Can let me run this other one? Okay, you really
got to watch this.

Speaker 15 (01:32:23):
I disappeared for a while, not because I was lost,
but because I was watching. They thought the silence meant
I gave up. But the silence was me sharpening the blade.
Because what's coming next isn't just another story. It's the
reckoning of stories, the ones we were told, the ones
we weren't allowed to.

Speaker 8 (01:32:42):
Question, and the ones buried so deep they hoped we'd
never dig them up. They built entire systems to keep
us distracted, wars, politics, pandemics, profits, But beneath it all,
something older, something sacred, hijacked, hidden, and now it's rising
to the surface. This isn't about left or right. It's

(01:33:06):
not about Jews, Christians or Muslims.

Speaker 5 (01:33:09):
It's about who's been playing.

Speaker 15 (01:33:10):
God and who's been paying the price.

Speaker 5 (01:33:13):
They said, the truth of us set us free, but
first it'll shake us to the core. They etched their
symbols into our currency, wrote their codes into our laws,
built their empires on lies disguised as freedom, and while
we slept, they moved in silence, through banks, through screens,
through blood lines. But every empire built on illusion eventually cracks,

(01:33:36):
and when it does, all that's left is what's real.
This isn't the end, it's the beginning. The systems are
failing because something greater is breaking through. Truth doesn't die,
it waits, and now it's calling all of us to
remember who we are. We are not slaves, we are
not pawns. We are the descendants of dreamers, warriors, prophets,

(01:33:58):
and poets and somewhere deep inside, we still remember the code,
the light, the sound of our own sovereignty. They wrote
the script, but we're flipping the ending because this time
we're not asking for permission. This time we're writing the
story ourselves. They wanted the world to sleep, but we
are wide awake. We've seen the puppets, We've traced the strings.

Speaker 15 (01:34:23):
Now we're coming for the hands that hold them.

Speaker 5 (01:34:27):
This is the greatest show on Earth three, saving Israel
for last.

Speaker 6 (01:34:42):
Executive producer, Yeah, thin out there.

Speaker 9 (01:34:45):
Nick Alvier is the writer and the director, and he
he does such a great job. I mean he's made
sixty six films over the past I would say four
or five years, and they're the kind of films that
I would consider it the Netflix of red pills. You know,
there's kind of stuff you wake up. But also I
suggest everybody go watch the Greatest Show on Earth one

(01:35:08):
to try to catch up. I mean, even if you
don't understand politics, everybody can follow along really good, okay,
and they go to what's the line dot tv?

Speaker 1 (01:35:19):
Good Lion tv dot com.

Speaker 9 (01:35:21):
Yes, and I also have a new Instagram.

Speaker 1 (01:35:23):
It's Megan good Line dot TV. Right there, you go, Yeah,
good Line TV. Good line dot TV there it is. Okay.
Do you guys have any thoughts on those two clips
you just saw. I mean they're incredibly well time.

Speaker 9 (01:35:42):
Thank you, And I just think that we're at the
point right now where we are in the awakening. Think
about everything that we've been finding out the past couple
of years. You know, we almost had a precipice where
we have to unlearn everything that we've been told because
it hasn't been the most honest. I mean, you think
about our history, You think about what they're doing with
all these statues. I mean, think about how easy it

(01:36:02):
is to change the past. We've watched them do it
in real time, you know, in the past six years.
You know how many other times in history has that happened.
And also when you understand how the media is owned
and how easy it is to you know, they can
control the way people think. The media it can be
one sided. I mean there's a psychological programming in a

(01:36:24):
government level. I mean, they have plenty of CIA documents
that they can go into. They know how to influence people,
They know how to make people irritated. They can do
it through the music, they can do it through the
shows that we're watching. Think about some of these video
games that these kids are are dealing with, or some
of these kids that have had you know, there's been
mass shootings or some kind of crazy things. But really

(01:36:45):
it has to do with it what they're in, what
they're you know, what they're watching, and what they're seeing
from a young age. It's for me and there's just
no question about that.

Speaker 6 (01:36:54):
So yeah, well you just look, we went from don't ask,
don't tell you guys were still probably serving to now
transgender stuff. And if you and if you're watching TV
and now Pete got to kick all the transgenders out.
We don't even know what the hell they got in there.
But and what from door to ass don't tell it

(01:37:15):
to now you got transgenders. But if you look at
your TV, you see little flashes, you see same sex
stuff all of a sudden in the commercial, you see, uh,
transgender thing you just had up in Portland, Maine, they
had a transgender person do the weather.

Speaker 9 (01:37:36):
What people really need to what people really need to understand,
is that there's another element to all of this and
it's and it's uh in a in a way, it's
kind of like biblical, you know, like good and evil.
That's what we're in. And you know, once you understand
that their god, that's not my god. You know the
other you know person, it's that that's not the same.
You know what I'm saying. So what people really need

(01:37:58):
to be educated about is there's practices that are still
going on today in terms of Satanic practices. There's a
reason that there's eight hundred thousand kids going missing a year.
And these are conversations that people don't want to talk
about because it's uncomfortable. It is a conversation that needs
to be had. Adrenochrome, there's just a lot of things
that I feel like that are going to come to
the service, and they're already talking about a lot of

(01:38:19):
these things more mainstream now or than ever before, because
we're talking about the trafficking more than we ever have before.
When people understand how Hollywood works, how the blackmail aspect
of everything works. I mean, we know about Epstein Island,
you see what Pete Diddy is doing. These are these
are you know, how.

Speaker 1 (01:38:39):
Are you gonna have Leticia James to that list now? Too?

Speaker 2 (01:38:42):
Harvey Harvey Weinstein.

Speaker 9 (01:38:44):
Correct, well also without Harvey Weinstein, you know, and I
used to act and model back in my time, and
I would be in la a lot and there was
producers that would talk like that to women. And there's
a lot of girls that, you know, they don't have
the discernment and they'll believe whatever the producer is telling them.
Do you go what I'm saying? So, while I'm not,
I don't think it was Jess Harvey Weinstein. I think
that he was their fall guy. Do I think that

(01:39:05):
you probably don't think. Of course he was, but he
was not the only one. But somebody has to, you know,
somebody has to to take that. And there's no wonder
why did he was recording everybody? He had to keep
everybody in line. Yeah, so that's why, you know, the
whole Rico thing because obviously he did have an enterprise
of people, you know, his that were enforcing, you know,

(01:39:26):
with with the drugs, drugging people, you know, you know,
you just see everything playing now. So I think people
just need to get ready because I think there's going
to be some hard truth that people are gonna find
out in the in the coming months. And I feel
like that veil is being lifted for so many years,
so it's really dark to light that's where we're going
because the more that everything gets peeled back and that

(01:39:48):
we all know everything, hopefully it can never happen again.
We can never be in this position again.

Speaker 6 (01:39:53):
Yeah, well that's hopefully I mean elected or doing the primary.
So socialists, so proclaimed socialists, So let's hope that they
don't overtake our country and then the veil will be
thrown back over everything. You know, but we still I mean,
the propaganda's out there. You would have never thought that

(01:40:16):
this person could have got a half a percent of vote,
but he got forty three just then.

Speaker 9 (01:40:25):
And when you understand how the USA i D money
gets spent right on these candidates. You think about Alexandria
Pesiota USA i D money They were giving her the
whole time, they were grooming her to be this candidate.
And that's really what it is. Needs to come out too,
just like Obama. I mean, I've seen pictures with Obama

(01:40:46):
with Bush. He was a little boy. You know, this
was his father was Barris to Tara, who was married
to his mother. And and nothing is what people think
it is. Do you understand what I'm saying? And the
media is list it all these years, you know, we
have to get all the hard stuff out on the
table first, you know. And I suggest everybody to watch

(01:41:09):
the movie because it is gonna it's gonna make you
think the first one, this one, I mean, it's gonna
wake you up. And obviously we're seeing it play out
in real time. So the cool thing about this movie
is when you're watching it, you're actually feeling it play out,
because when you look at the news cycle, it is
what's playing out, you know, Megan.

Speaker 1 (01:41:26):
So if if they want to watch these, which you should, Yep,
it's a good line.

Speaker 9 (01:41:35):
Yes, And there's app store too, and uh there's thousands
of you know, it houses other documentaries and different things
from other people too that are really good.

Speaker 5 (01:41:46):
You know.

Speaker 9 (01:41:47):
Obviously the mainstream media and the mainstream in general, they
want to shift our focus to whatever it is the
script that they would like. You know, this is more
for true. There's people that want to know the things
that are backed up by fat you know, and so.

Speaker 1 (01:42:02):
And you would suggest that they they go to the
Greatest Number one to.

Speaker 9 (01:42:07):
Watch the The good thing about these movies is it
picks up, you know, as soon as you watch it.
I mean, the second one is about the incoming financial system,
and uh goes into it goes into depth about things
about our past, uh that were changed without us knowing.
You know, our our constitution has not always been followed
like they want us to believe it is. And I

(01:42:29):
think the American public is going to find out.

Speaker 1 (01:42:31):
Well, they've they haven't been teaching the history real.

Speaker 9 (01:42:40):
Mcrawl Hill were the textbooks that I learned from as
a young person. And mcral Hill is actually owned by
Pergiam and Press program, and Press is actually owned by
Kassleen Maxwell's father. So why is an intelligence person from
Israel in charge of the way that our kids are learning?
Think about that? Nice crazy to you.

Speaker 1 (01:43:03):
We got to wrap up, Megan, thank.

Speaker 9 (01:43:06):
You very much for having me.

Speaker 1 (01:43:09):
Those are awesome. We got to have you back as
this goes forward, Okay, you and Greg, thank you, Jake,
thank you, and uh, you know, we're going to delve
into this Sarah Birchmore murder trial, which is strangely connected
to all the people in the car Karen reads right,

(01:43:29):
uh trial, so you might want to read a little
bit about that next week. We'll get in there with
some of that. Okay, Megan, thank you very much again.
I appreciate it. And Julia, thank you very much. If
your listening, thank you, and uh, we've got to have
you back to so okay, guys,

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