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Speaker 2 (01:18):
Oh okay, good evening, good evening, good evening, and welcome
to another night, a fabulous conversation information. It's gonna blow
your mind tonight. It's gonna blow your mind. And we
just thank you forever, giving God praise Trey. How you doing.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
I'm doing well, just a little rainy here, storming, but
doing okay.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
We just hey, pastor, oh finally, Hey, where are you been, sir? Hey?
Speaker 4 (01:42):
I am fashionably late?
Speaker 2 (01:44):
What I hey, We're gonna have to mark you down
for that. We're gonna mark you down for that. We
have a fabulous show tonight as always, but we really
have a special guest amongst us and I would love
for her to be to come on in and as well, Yes,
because she will enjoy the prayer and welcome everybody. Nurse Tammy.
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I'm not gonna even try her last name, but she's
gonna introduce herself and everything. Okay, okay, all right, go ahead,
you want to try, and go ahead, so that's all
you get. That's all you get. Let's take it to
the throne room. Father God, we just thank you so much,
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and we give you praise and glory and honor. You
alone are worthy to be praised, and we just thank you.
We thank you so much. You have been. All I
can do is exhaling you. All I can do is
exhaling you. Thank you so much for your saving grace
and your mercy, your unconditional love, and our hearts go
out to the folks still in Texas and in North
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Carolina and everywhere else that's experiencing trauma and and and
everything else that's going on, and Lord jeez, is help it.
Have mercy on us.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
Now.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
We thank you. And as always, Father, this is your time,
this is your program. We get behind the cross, and
we asked that you do what you do best amongst many,
but death set your captives free. In the name of Jesus,
we pray, Amen and Amen. Well, welcome everybody again, praying
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that everybody is well. I don't want to waste any
time tonight because this is a life lesson for us.
All is going to blow you away. Briefly, we do
have a guest. She is and was and she well,
she was my wound care nurse. I've talked about her
over the years. She was always there and we talked
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about the Lord. And I was thinking this morning, just
reflecting over our time together, and I remember one particular
thing I want to say real quick. It was a
morning I woke up, I had an aid in the home,
and all of a sudden, my vision, my eyes was
just going back and forth, back and forth. I had
never experienced that, never heard of that. And I'm like,
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oh my god. And I could see the aid backing up.
She was just backing up to my dining area. I said,
why aren't you praying? Why aren't you? And I mean
I can't. I mean I could see, but I can't see.
My eyes are just literally going like this like this,
and I'm like, oh my God. And I knew Tammy
was on her way I can always hear. When she
pulled up stuff, I said, oh, she's here, she's here.
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So Tammy's like, okay, hey, I said, no, I can't.
I can't see I can't see it. I'm crying and
I'm freaking out. And she's like, okay, I just need you.
It's great, just greeze, just freeze. So I'm sitting down.
She threw a grip on the couch and she's on
her knee. She's like, it's okay, I'm here. I'm here,
and I'm like, but she wouldn't pray. She wouldn't pray.
She says she believe in God. She's not praying. I'm
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in crisis, and I was just and the nurse, the
aide just stood there and Tammy was like, it's okay.
She's like, bring me a cold rag now now and
tell me folded it over and she put it on
my forehead and she said, Jesus name, in Jesus name,
in Jesus name, very few people can calm me down,
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very few.
Speaker 5 (05:09):
And I had a few opportunities to do that.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Yes you did, because I was like, She's like okay, okay,
and she did. So we're talking about inflammation Toname. Inflammation
to me is the most secretive, secretive disorder, and you
don't know you have it most of the time until
they're really doing lab work, I mean really going deep
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and and maybe even a EKG X rays. I mean
you've got you have a battery of tests most of
the time before to say, oh, well you've got some information. Now.
Most of the time you hear that and you're like,
oh okay. You think, okay, maybe that's infection or something.
You know, some people take that real lightly, but you don't.
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You don't need to, because this thing is deadly and
once it gets started, and in my opinion, and you
don't know it's there, it's it's going after everything and
it's in its path. And I know I'm really bringing
it big because Tammy is going to bring it right here.
What can help inflammation, misty, But I'm I will answer that,
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But right now I want to give miss Tammy the
floor and we'll acknowledge your questions. We'll have her back.
But she's got a lot to share and a lot
whatever however God's going to lead her tonight, but she
has a lot. Without further ado, please welcome my wound
care nurse and Sister in Christ, Miss Tabby there again
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passed it very good anyway.
Speaker 5 (06:44):
So the first thing I want to say is we
have to remember that God created everything perfectly, and he
in our human body, created inflammation for a good thing.
So let's start but the good thing on the side
of inflammation. What is inflammation? It is basically the body's
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response to potentially an injury, potentially a problem. The body
was created to heal itself, and the body was created
to recognize a problem and bring healing to that problem
through inflammation. So we cut ourselves, we get it acute wound.
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There's an inflammatory response that comes and brings oxygen and
blood to an area that is meant to bring healing.
So we got to first start off with understanding what
an inflammatory response really is. So that is what it
starts out as. Where the problem becomes is when it
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goes from an acute phase to a chronic phase. So
when our body is dealing with insults and that could
be a wound, that could be diabetes, that could be cardiac,
that could be autoimmune diseases, that acute phase that meant
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to bring in healing now becomes a chronic, ongoing problem.
And that long standing inflammation becomes a problem. So what
was meant for good now is no longer good. So
when we look at our human body that was made
so perfectly, when things are breaking down, say like our
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gut health, our digestion, If we are eating foods that
can create a leaky gut or an inflammation in our gut,
it overwhelms our system. So that is one avenue that
inflammation can come in. Another avenue is our blood sugar,
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so we have if we're diabetic or even hyper glycemic
for a long period of time, some of us may
not know, just like you were saying, is gray without
a lab without some type of assessment from a physician,
we may not know the state our body is in
and the prolonged state our body is in. Any particular
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condition creates a chronic nature, and that chronic inflammation creates
havoc in our body. So high blood pressure another avenue
that plays havoc on our vessels. We look at cholesterol
and how that interferes with the walls of our vessels.
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We look at autoimmune conditions, which is chronic inflammation of
like lupus arthritis, ormtwate arthritis, Chrome's disease, which is in
the gut, thyroid, hashimotoves thyroid psoriasis of the skin. Those
are all autoimmune conditions where your body starts to attack itself.
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So something goes wrong and now your body is saying, okay,
we're going to attack. So everybody has different potentials for inflammation.
It's getting a baseline of what you are, your state
is in, and then working towards bringing health into those
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particular areas. So you go for your annual physical, you
have your annual work blood work done. They are typically
looking at depending on who your practitioner is, they're looking
at all of these different areas. But if you come
in with a complaint of fatigue, you come in with
a complaint of swelling, come in with a complaint of
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a rash, it's now going on a hunt to say, okay,
what could be causing these things and what lab work
would we look at to say, hey, we've got something
that's not at correct. So there's not necessarily a specific
lab that says, bright lights, this is where it is. Yes,
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there is what they call an A and A, which
again is more of on your autoimmune inflammatory side. They
have what's called the said rate, which is also an
inflammatory marker, but it's not necessarily going to indicate this
is your issue. But that's where we're looking at our
physicals and then responding to what isn't in line, which
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blood work is outside of the range where it should be,
and what can we do to now bring about health
to our body.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Well, this is this is this is really interesting because
like you said, I said before, you you don't know
until they start the search and they start to or
you come in and you know, I had to go
and now I had to seek a whole new medical team.
Uh here it is seven years later and all of
a sudden, you know, I go in and they did
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one set of blood work and they're like, oh oh
oh no, these numbers are not they're not right. And
instead they're not trying to scare me, but they are
scaring me because they're like, this is something's wrong and
we need to see if there's blockage. We need to
see if there's inflammation, we need to see if there's infection,
we need to see something that's going up. We don't
need anything pressing on your limbs and on your muscles
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and on the veins. And I'm like, what you know,
I don't have this in my sister's not in my DNA.
So it's like and I believe, you know, the devil
will use anything to get you distracted, to get you upset,
to make you start doubting and disbelieving and all this stuff.
And then I'm looking at God like, okay, Lord, I know,
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but see this time, I tricked my mind by going
in and saying I brought this all myself. I came in.
I went in because my mind is like, well, no,
you know, tell them this and no, no, no, I
brought this on myself. And then looking at me and
I'm like, yeah, my cherry PEPSI my sweet teeth. And
they're like okay. Now normally people would be like what
is was it? No, they were like, okay, now this
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is making some sense because you how often I said
that I drink it like you drink water. Like okay,
all right, we're sending you back for more tests, and
we need more blood work because now we need five
more vials because we got five more areas that we've
got to go look into now. And I'm very fortunate
this functional, functioning medical holistic team are looking at Okay,
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we got your we got the symptoms. Now now we
need to see what made what it grew upon. And
it brought me back to my therapy days when a
person would come in they record ordered for anger management,
and they were ready to tell me about oh I'm
not angry, I'm not angry person. I'm like, oh, okay,
but can I have your name first? I just want
to verify that you the person I'm supposed to see.
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And I would use an example. I said, you know
you come in with this, this is this is the
this is the diagnosis of this is what you want
to be treated, and then I would pile things on top.
But you're angry. You know, you're not working right now,
you don't do well at work, You've got you're going
through a divorce. So I'm piling up and I said,
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this is what I need to find. I need to
find what we what I call the trigger, because all
this is landing on this, your anger management and everything.
I need to find out what this is because once
I get this and I would let this go, everything
would fall, everything would fall. So it brought back that memory.
I'm like, oh God, but you know, you've got to
be honest with your practitioner. You've got to face, what
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you've done, how you've eaten, how you've gone beyond. Tammy
said something to me when I was first I was
when I was first discharged, I went through six weeks
of an IV of medicine because there was a you know,
the way my foot, my left toes were and my
foot was cut, so there was a ivy attached to
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it for six weeks. And Tammy said, you know, miss Gray,
you're gonna be You're the healthiest that you'll ever be
because I just came off of being fed by feeding
to I had all the nutrients, all the everything, you know,
and still wasn't even because I hadn't gotten my taste
buds back. So I was very careful about what I
was eating, and it was all healthy stuff because I
couldn't and my stomach had shrunk ninety seven days in
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the hospital, you know, so I was eating very small
and everything. So she said, you're gonna be the healthies,
and I'm like, oh, okay, And I took that for granted.
I took it for granted. I even tried to bribe
the kids when I was in the hospital. Go to
the cafeteria here, you go to the cafeteria I'm on
a chocolate chip cookie. I smell the cookies and then
looking at each other like we're not going to the
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cafeteria to get you, and I'm like, come on, they
won't know. But I'm right next to the cafeteria. I
was on the ICU floor. Okay, I was a few floors,
but I could smell it. Somebody was cooking something on
that floor. So now, Tammy, let's let's let's go a
little deeper now, you know, because I feel right now
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that the world is in crisis. The world. Everybody health issues.
My foot surgeon has a whole new set of patients
every time I go there, a whole new set. My
prosthetic company, they have a whole new set of people.
Even younger kids. Limbs are being you know, amputated or
lost or what you know. So, once upon a time
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in the mental health field, and Tree can really relate
to this, we used to have prevention. We get clearly,
we had services that provided prevention, agencies that provided prevention services.
Then we went to a little early intervention, okay, and
then we went to intervention, and the last thing we
wanted was crisis. But I want to say, since twenty
twenty we've been in crisis. There's no early intervention. I
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write grants, I edit grants. We don't have nothing for
preventing preventing anything. Now it's like early involvement or you know,
early intervention if that, and that's that's on the cusp
in your field, in the medical field, the health field,
do you see that or what do you feel we
are right now? Medically, I'm looking at women with stomachs.
I don't think they know they have hernias. I don't
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think I don't think they know it. And hyato hernia
another secret of little thing. And I'm found out when
I was in the hospital. One of the doctors rounded
he said, well, you know, if you have a baby,
that could create a hernia. I said, what, I said,
my baby? But what I had a set of twins,
so that recreated that, you know. So I had this
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hieda hernia forever and I was only told don't bother
it unless it bother you. But then here it is,
millions of years later, it started to bring my stomach
to come up and here we are. Here we are
so in the medical health medical what are you seeing
now on your en Now she actively works in a hospital.
Speaker 5 (17:54):
I'm going to start with people. People are reactive, not
proactive as a whole. As a whole, we live in
a country that is reactive, not necessarily proactive. Can I
say every medical personnel is reactive. No, I can't lump
everybody into a bucket. However, what do I see as
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a whole is medicine is very siloed. So if you
go to a physician, a specialist, they're going to look
at their specialty, so to look at old person care
versus siloed care. I do think we have a greater
opportunity to truly treat patients holistically. We have to have
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patients buy in to owning their health also because a
lot of times we want others to do it for you,
or we have a society of I'm an avoid, I'm
married to an avoid, and I am very pro so
I tend to be very proactive. I think about tomorrow,
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next month, next year, five years, ten years. I have
a plan for everything personality wise. But I've personally gone
through health issues. I had to be my own advocate
because again, certain labs, certain tests could technically come back
within normal limits, and I knew I wasn't feeling well,
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so I'm like, something's not matching. I'm the healthiest person
on a piece of paper, but you know something's wrong.
So you have to understand advocacy, and that's a hard
thing when you don't understand medicine. The medical community, in
the medical world is a very different world than the
rest of us are living, So to be able to
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navigate healthcare is really difficult. So the main thing I
would recommend for anybody is to find a really good
primary care physician. That person that you can trust, that
could be your hub, that could navigate and will ordinate
care and actually have your best interest in mind is
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super important. So if you don't have that, you need
to find that. We can't just say oh the doctor
said it's nothing, move on and I'm a doctor. You
need a good hub, you need somebody that could navigate that.
So that's the first priority. If you have a really
good PCP, they're going to be proactive. Now, like you,
miss Gray, you found a holistic person. How do you feel,
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are they proactive or are they reactive? Just your experience
so far with the new.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Person totally proactive, totally proactive, because he was not going
to even take me on until I went back to
my primary and got on a certain medication. He said,
cause that's bigger than what I see, and that if
we could calm that down, it could clear the forest
a little bit, and then then I can He said,
stop everything, even told me stop taekwondo, stop everything right now,
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right now, and then he put a team on me.
So they're very proactive and my primary, the nurse practitioner.
The nurse practitioner was like, oh, a holistic and I said, no,
that eight pages of lab work, it's because of him.
She said, okay. It totally turned her around. She became
respect for him because you know, those different worlds out there,
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they don't respect folks with holistic stuff, a mindset, you know,
and practice. She said, oh, oh, okay, okay, that's good.
That's good. Well you stick with him, you stick with us.
We're your new family now. I said, yeah, you're my
new team definitely.
Speaker 5 (21:34):
So yeah, So that is super important is to have
somebody that is going to be proactive and explain what
they're looking at every single year. So there are standards
when we go to an annual physical that should be
looked at for you every single year, and that overall
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lab work annually. Should be looking at your cholesterol, your triglycerides,
your blood sugar, your possibly autoimmune. If you're complaining of
any kind of you know, fatigue or any of those
symptoms I was talking about, they should automatically be looking
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at that. There are set standards to look at gut health,
to look at colonoscopies and endosopies. Those are things that
people will run from. So it's it's it's hard to
say who owns what. But if you can have a
ACP that can sit down and say, this is why
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these labs are important, this is why we do this
every year. This is not in line and we need
to do a little bit more investigating because interestingly, inflammation
comes from multiple different places. It's not an easy answer.
So one set of bad lab works in one an
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organ system, maybe triggering the inflammation cascade in your body.
So you have to understand it's not a clear cut answer.
So it is getting that annual blood work, Is it
an X ray that you need? What else is going on?
What are the concerns and complaints? And you said it earlier,
it's you have to be honest with your practitioner. If
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you go in and don't tell the truth about things,
You're gonna get a very minimal answer. But can I
tell you as every ACP great, No, I've had a
variety of PCPs. I have a PCP that has never
even pulled out a stethoscope to listen to my lungs.
And then I have another PCP in my life back
in South Florida who literally look between my toes every year.
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So I'm like, you got to understand not they're not
all the same. They may have the same initials, but
they're not all created equally. And unfortunately, the onuses get
recommendations from anybody that you trust that says, hey, I
have a really good as long as they're covered by
your insurance, hopefully you can go see that. That's the start,
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that's the foundation. So you want somebody proactive, That's where
to start.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Now, speaking of insurance, one thing I want to go
back to. I just left my primary doctor that I
had over twenty some years since I've been here in
Orlando because his nurse practitioner was just like, you don't
need to eat supplements. I mean she just was, really,
you need to be on this, and you need to
be on that. And I'm like, well, just slow down.
I hear what you're saying, but you got to understand
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you're looking at what You're looking at what I've been through,
and you're trying to and you know, she I just
couldn't and they've not even tried to find me or
call me back in for a follow up. I went
on and prayed and found another doctor. And this is
where the nurse practitioner came in, speaking of insurance. And
we've got an expert here on that other side, got
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Pastor mcguil who's but it's been so people have been
so shocked. When I'm gone to get the blood work
or whatever, they said, well do you have another I
said no, I'm on Medicare A and B. And then like,
so you don't have a secondary and I'm like no,
And then the finally the lady was like she didn't
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take person. It was just like it was just I
said no because I didn't need one. I did. I
wasn't on medication. There's another, you know, source that takes
care of the high blood pressure meds, but they need
this much medication. And she's like, oh, I was like
an alien to her because they you a B, C
D and E you know, and and supplements and United
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Healthcare and ETNA and all this, and they were they
have been in shot that. You know, I don't have
a secondary third And you know, Pastor I was thinking
about you. I said, Okay, I'm gonna have to call
him and get medicare c I guess or or D
and you know, and the Lord blessed that I didn't
have to do it. CBS owed me money. Now, thank
you Jesus. But you know, I know because I'm not
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being on a whole lot of medicine. I didn't didn't
need it. I didn't need it. So it's really sethly.
So now, Tammy, what else is on your heart about this? Now?
You know you've given you've given us really that foundation
in that background. But what's God? What has God? What
God has you on your has on your heart that
you want to share to tell people? New patients, old patients?
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All we got all age ranges on here that view
this what what where are we going? Because you see
the world is collapsing behind us. It's it's coming apart
at the scenes. Uh, You've got doctors leaving, You've got people,
you know, medications for big pharmah that's old thing, you know.
Just where do we go from here? Now? Whatever else
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is on your heart, please.
Speaker 5 (26:41):
Well, we have to make sure we surround ourselves with
the right company of people. That is believers and that
is your medical team, that is your family. Knowing who
your inner circle should be and who you can trust.
Because wisdom is everything, and we know that if we
ask the Lord, the Lord is faithful to provide wisdom.
And we have to know where our limitations are. So
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the problem is is knowing our own strengths or weaknesses,
whether we're going to avoid problematic things. Who do we
have come alongside of us that can speak truth. Truth
is everything, and truth is word. The word of God
is the truth. We have to remember medicine is practicing, practicing,
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that's what doctors do. They're in practice. They're not God.
So God is the beginning in the end, God is
the author of wisdom. He is the author and creator
of our bodies. He can bring about healing. But we
have to also understand that we have to do our part.
So what does our part look like. It looks like
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understanding our diagnoses, It looks like following instructions. If you
trust the source, that's giving you the medical instructions, there
needs to be some compliance with that. And that isn't
just medications. That's diet, that's liquid intake, that's exercise, that sleep,
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that stress. There are so many things that injure us
and create inflammatory responses in our body that we have
to take back control and do what the Word of
God calls us to do to be healthy. And that
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is prayer, that is sabbath and rest, that is the word,
that is community, and that is a health community. So
it's bringing all of that back in. I wish there
was an easy fix to it all, but we have
responsibility and sometimes that means we have to make choices
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that are not easy. And unfortunately, the human brain is
quite interesting as well that we create pathways in our brain,
so our habit patterns and the things that we do
in life have been forged in that process. So sometimes
it's literally getting on our knees and asking the Lord
to help us create healthy pathways and understanding that those
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ruts are existing in your brain. So you have to
be very cautious not to easily go back to what
is our natural pattern with things, whether it's sweet tea
and cherry coke. You know, and I'm just as guilty.
We all have our own pathways, We'll say, we all
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have our own human pathways. And it's really leaning in
on the Holy Spirit to say, Okay, help me, Lord,
to go in the path where you want us to
go for help and healing mindset. And also we have
to learn to speak truth over ourselves as well. We're
our own worst enemy. We speak things over ourselves that
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we allow the enemy to do what he does with
us sometimes because we've spoken it into existence. So we
have to understand what does the word of God say
whether you see it? You know what faith is. Faith
is not necessarily seeing it, but speaking what we know
is truth. And you have to just be surrounded with
people that know truth. And that's the same thing in
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our healthcare systems and being very wise with who your
health practitioners are and who your inner circle is.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
I'm going to say this and then have my co
hosts come on, and also some of the folks in
the audience have a question, just type it in. But yeah,
I had to be honest, and God kept saying, the
Holy Spirit kept saying, you know, you got to be honest, right,
you got to be honest and my daughter's on me
because I have to. I've got to my document everything
I'm doing, even if I do light exercise, I got
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the document it. I take my blood pressure so many
times a week. I take my gluecose level thingy so
many times a week, and I've got to document every
thing and my food and I'm like, oh my god,
and you know, and then you've got little, you know,
healthy videos that I have to watch and everything. So
they're looking to see are you going to be compliant?
And I had to say to the actual holistic doctor,
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you know, I give you permission to push me. And
he looked at me. I said, I give you permission
because I know I have a strong personality. I know
I sound so affirmative and so I sound so much
in charge and all this kind of stuff. And I'm
an advocate for others. I advocated in the hospital. Yes,
but now I need to be talking to myself because
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now look where I'm at. Now, Look where I'm at now.
And I had to get rid of people which was
causing me stress. Had to let him go, so I
give permission. I'd let them know. The nurse practitioner at
the hospital, I told her I said, I give you
permission to push me. Now, I do warn them that
I'm a social worker. I can I'll talk to anybody.
So if you need to tell me to be quiet,
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be nice about it now, please don't don't. Don't hurt
my feelings. But you know, I know, and I have
to be quiet. And I had to be brutally honest.
I went to Sprouts and I tried to get me
some lettuce that had organic on it. And I'm like,
who eats this stuff?
Speaker 4 (32:10):
Who?
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Who? Who? Oh my god. I was just doing like
I was contorting and everything, like I don't want to
eat this. I don't want to eat this that don't
taste right, you know. And I said, they're lying. They're
lying when they talked about oh this is good and
yeah it's good. All right, it's nasty. But anyway, all right, guys,
y'all mute yourselves and Tammy, are you up to taking
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a couple of questions right now? Shipping that? Okay? Go ahead, guys,
if you have any questions. If you don't, that's fine.
I think Misty, we answered your question about what is inflammation.
I think we did a pretty good job on that.
But does everyone have inflammation and how can we know
if it is bad. That's a good one.
Speaker 5 (32:52):
So, yes, everybody has some level of inflammation because we
have to remember where information comes from. And if unless
somebody is an absolute perfect health. If you have eye
blood pressure, it can cause inflammation. If you have high cholesterol,
it can cause inflammation. If you get a cut on
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your finger, you're going to have inflammation. So there are
different things that trigger. Now is all inflammation the say no.
So some of that is very protective in nature because
our body was created to create an inflammatory response for healing.
It's when inflammation goes unchecked and becomes chronic in nature.
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So now you have to start to look at some
of those chronic disease processes. Unhealthy habits, stress can cause inflammation.
So if anybody has stress, they can have inflammation. If
anybody has sleeping issues and we're not getting enough sleep
at night, we can have inflammation if we're fatigued. So
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any insult to the body, the body was created to
create an inflammatory response, but it was meant to heal.
But the problem is is if we stay in that
state for long periods of time, it becomes an unhealthy
inflammatory response to the body. But it's not like you
fix the inflammation. You got to fix your piece of paper.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
This is gray.
Speaker 5 (34:24):
We got to get to that bottom piece of paper
and then everything can fall down.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
We had a question, she said, this food does do
this to us? Foods do this to us.
Speaker 5 (34:35):
Yes, so, yes, food can cause inflammation. But everybody's body
responds differently to food. So it's not like I can
give you a list of foods. Well, I could give
you a list of foods that have more inflammatory problems,
like gluten, some dairies, but everybody's body responds to food differently,
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so you really have to know your and this is
where you work with your practitioner to look at inflammatory markers.
And again, if you have lab work like a CRP
or in the ESR said, right, there are labs, and
if they're looking at those labs, then we're going to like, okay,
if we adjust your eating and we repeat those labs,
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are we going to see those numbers come down? Just
like with the diabetes, if you have high blood sugar,
if we change your eating, we should start to see
me numbers come down. Now, granted they may have to
add medications to the mix to help do that, but
the goal, if they can, is to get you to
be balanced and ask food and exercise and sleep and relaxation.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
Holistic is better. I just want to say something before
having your answer that then, Miguel, I'm not sure if
you have some question, but it always bewildered me when
you see a person as overweight. I've been overweight, but
I've not had metal issues and things like that. Then
there are times I was in denial and didn't want
to hear it either. I want to Oh, I look
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like my aunt Vi, and I look like my aunt Gloria,
you know, and they're always overweight, you know, and they
seem to be okay. But after a certain age, all
of a sudden, my health begin at the teariorate. Then
I have some skinny friends, some skinny associates, you know,
that are super skinny. They look like they're and they
can run a mile or whatever. But yet they got
knee arthritis in the knee, and and and you know,
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and things like that, and they got psoriasis, you know, Egzima,
something happening. And I'm like, how can that because you
look like you're in shape. What's the name the singer,
the young girl, She was very overweight. Uh, Fizzo, Pizzo,
not Fizzo, is it Lizzo? Lizzo Lizzo. Everybody's like, oh
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my god, you're grossly overweight. You got to lose the weight.
She goes, no, I'm healthy, I'm fine. But you can
hear that breathing. You can hear her breathing between things.
But now she she went and had all the gastro
or whatever, and now she's you know, that had the
weight taken off. But she you know, plus sized women
who are huge, There wasn't nothing wrong with me. And
you could barely walk, you could, you could hear the
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breathing and stuff. So we're in a lot of denial,
is what I want to say, pastor go ahead if
you had a question.
Speaker 4 (37:19):
I was going to say that that a lot of
people want to go to doctor Google to self diagnose,
and people don't understand that that we're all individuals. We
all are made differently, and and what may work for
one person may not be the right dosage for for
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another person. And and you know, uh doctor uh Tammy
was correct. Yeah, it's always good to be proactive and reactive,
and we're always we're always and to take what you
just said, Miss Gray, is that we're all in denial.
And you know, as a matter of fact, it's so funny,
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you know, in Europe, when you eat the food in Europe,
especially in Italy, it's so amazing. I can eat gobs
and gobs and gobs of pasta and not feel full.
Whereas I come to the United States, I eat half
a plate of pasta and you have to roll me
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out of the out of the restaurant because I'm so full.
And people don't understand that there's some stuff that goes
into our food that does not belong into our body.
And another thing that we've touched on, Sister k I agree,
it is very informative. One of the other things that
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my Gena and I were talking about today. As we
grow older, we eat to eat less. We don't need
to eat the same amount of food that we used
to when we were twenty five, because at twenty five
we're more active than we are for six years thoughts,
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you know, and this way we have to understand, we
need to stop eating with our eyes and follow what
the Bible says. You know, when Jesus fed the five thousand,
they ate enough till they were key word satis fine,
not disgustingly full, satisfied. People don't understand that you have
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to eat, you have to stop, let it all kind
of settle in, and then you go, okay, I'm done.
Not eat to the point where you're like, okay, I'm full,
and then ten minutes later you're like, I gotta unbuckle
my belt because I'm about to blow up. And it's
all a matter.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
Of educating yourself.
Speaker 4 (39:46):
And to the point that you mentioned, when you go
see a doctor, please and I and I do medicare,
so I tell my clients this, When you go see
a doctor, you go in there with your pad questions.
You go in there with questions. First the doctor's too
busy looking at his watch and not answering his question,
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time to look for another doctor, because your health is
absolutely vital. You have to live with you for the
rest of your life. And if the doctor's not going
to take the time to answer your questions, then are
you a number, are you a paycheck or are you
a patient? That's one thing I always tell my clients,
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you need to sit down and you need to just
go in there. And if the doctor sees you with
a pat and he rolls his eyes. You just say,
thank you so much, I'll find me another doctor.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
This is wrong with our VA veterans now because at
the veteran the VA, they go in and they've they've
got a fifteen minute assessment if that, and they ask
you three questions. How are you sleeping? How are you eating?
Are they any changes? Okay, just roll out and give
the pad. I've had veterans to come to me for therapy,
and I'm like, well, and of course to be able
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accept outside, you know folk. But that's all they are
asking them is three questions. And they're rewriting the scripts
and say we'll see you in another ninety days, you know,
and you have to do that. I didn't want to
leave my practitioner, you know, I really appreciated him and everything,
but he got you know, nurses in there, I mean practice,
you know, arns and stuff, and they just they was
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just not willing and listen. They weren't willing to listen.
And I said, no, this is not going to be
good and I have to move on. All right, where
my audience at y'all have any questions. We only have
a few more minutes. As you know, this flies. I
believe in natural cures. If nature didn't make it, don't
take it, Okay, Mickey. Well we got to get there, though,
We got to get there, and we got to have
those reliable places that do have the natural resources. Thank you, Hey,
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ld K, that's Tennessee checking in. Thank you. No, God
is good, this is God. This is all God, trust me.
And I knew it was only one person, a trainer's trainer,
a teacher's teacher that would and and and she she
will straight. Now you know, now you know, and you
can't not trade. You got something you want to say.
Speaker 3 (42:07):
Yeah, I mean, this is very informative. But I'm and
I'm listening to pastor too when he said about the
different foods. I've had people that go to different countries, uh,
and they said, the chick like the chicken. It tastes
totally different than than over here. And we look at
how they're they're there, how they feed the animals, and
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the pesticides that go on our vegetables. And I'm constantly
seeing this has been recalled, this is that's been recalled.
I said, what in the world, what is it that
you can't eat?
Speaker 2 (42:38):
It's to the point.
Speaker 3 (42:39):
Where it's probably best to grow your own stuff because
you know what you put on it or get. I
see people now getting chickens and so in Virginia, I
think they had like rented chicken, get your own chicken,
do your own eggs so which I mean, I've gotten
fresh eggs before from a farm and they taste totally
different than than the store.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
I mean.
Speaker 6 (43:01):
So it's it's scary. And I think a lot of
people are stressed too.
Speaker 3 (43:07):
So if I'm not mistaken, is that cortisol that kind
of helps you blow up to related to stress?
Speaker 6 (43:13):
You know, people are stressed related to.
Speaker 3 (43:15):
Situations going on work, you know, family situations, financial stuff,
you know, relationship, all kinds of mess and and and
it's easy to be inframed.
Speaker 6 (43:28):
I think I'm not putting an excuse on it, but
it is.
Speaker 3 (43:31):
You know, some some people in a stressful situation and
I don't like I said, God, God is the one
that can pull us out of it. And so that's
where I pulled my strength. As I tell you, it's
it's sad.
Speaker 2 (43:44):
It is.
Speaker 6 (43:46):
The only thing just piggyback on you.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
It's great is that with the with the v A.
Speaker 3 (43:51):
If you do have some some clients that come in
or whatever, ask them to ask their the v A
if they can also see outside provider.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
Because sometimes they are able to do the both.
Speaker 3 (44:03):
Because VA's long list of the waiting list for appointments,
it might be able to get to the primary care first,
and then sometimes they'll work better alongside each other where
they're getting the care quicker at the outside, but the
VAS fills in where they can, especially with the medication work.
Speaker 2 (44:21):
Amen, thank you, thank you. We only have a couple
of minutes, Tammy, please words of wisdom. However it needs
to come out, let's do it because we're going to
have you on again, so I have to. I'm gonna
have to schedule you six months six months early. I'll
be looking at the calendar tomorrow, but we'll get you
back on here before the end of the year. Because
we're going to talk about some other medical things. But
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please share your heart take us home.
Speaker 7 (44:44):
So agreeing with Pastor Miguel also the food is it
can be disheartening as we look at what we have
available to us.
Speaker 5 (44:55):
But where I'm going to tell you is put your
eyes on the Lord. You know that even and he
knows where we live, he knows what we have access to,
what we can do is what we have control of.
I mean, there are definitely things outside of our control.
And unfortunately, the way our country processes food, it's awful.
It doesn't taste the same, it doesn't hit the same.
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I could tell you also, I was over in Europe
and I ate for a week and gained nothing. It
was beautiful. I'd go away for a weekend here and
gain like seven pounds and my body doesn't feel the same.
So it is very disheartening to know what we have
access to here in the realm of food. But where
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I lean in on is I'm like, Lord, you know
that I'm yours, I'm your servant. So I pray for
hedges of protection. I do know that he is that
miracle working God. I have choices to make, and how
do I make the best choices with what I have
access to? And I know everybody has different access. Like
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we talked about with insurance, you have different access. We
have different access when it comes to our finances. We
have different access to who our inner circle is for advice.
But what we do is we ask for wisdom. We
make the best choices with what we have available to us.
I pray everybody has a church community, because at least
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I know where the Lord is is going to be
the best foundation to go to, and they can hopefully
connect you with people that have some wisdom or some
ability to share. Then it is the responsibility of the
person to follow advice. How many times if we had
an alter call and pray for people and then they
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turn around and do the very thing that led them
to the alter call. So it's like, we have to
we have to make those choices, and we know choosing
wisely is not easy. We know that the enemy is
out to kill, still and destroy, so we have to
be prayed up and guess what, it's a daily the daily.
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It is daily, and not to get to when we fall,
because guess what, we're human. We're going to fall. We're
going to make pad choices. But the thing is is
we have to get back up and seek out those
that can bring wisdom and help make the choices that
are going to be healthy choices. There are we all
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can look at some of the choices we have and
just today and are wise enough to know if we
were being honest that was a healthy choice, that was
an unhealthy choice. Doing the healthy choices is not easy,
So please don't mistake and anything I said today. It
is not easy, but we take it one day at time.
Speaker 2 (47:48):
Amen. That's it, guys. Hey, thank you. I will see
you next week, same time, same station. Y'all. Stay safe.
Thank you, Tammy. I love you.