July 7, 2025 • 42 mins
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Speaker 2 (01:17):
Good evening, good evening, good evening, and welcome to another
night of wisdom and knowledge and understanding, conversation, dialogue, thoughts, emotions,
spiritual knowledge increases, blessing increases. Thank you for joining us tonight.
Thank my fabulous co hosts for joining us tonight. And
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we thank our engineer Rebel more than more importantly, she's
all about this team, and we thank her for her energy.
Let's pray, Father God, we just thank you and we
praise you, would give you glory for you alone of
worthy to be praised. Please have your way, Please have
your way tonight. This is your show, this is your podcast,
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this is your opportuitunity to speak to your people to
set the record straight. And we thank you so much. God.
We don't even deserve, we don't deserve, we don't deserve it.
Yet you freely gave, you freely provided, you freely embraced,
and we thank you. Lord. We will have a moment
of silence for those families and that experienced the loss
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in Texas and for the disaster, the weather situations that
are going on in South Carolina, as North Carolina as
we speak, Comfort your people, make a way out of
no way for them. All the resources and everything that's needed,
please provide. We just thank you. Cover the conferences that
will be held that's going to be held here in
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Orlando this week and elsewhere. Be with your people. Lord,
we love you so much. Now, as always, we get
behind the cross. You have your way. We are on standby.
We will never come off the wall until you deem it.
So in Jesus name, we pray Amen. Amen. So, how's
the traffic up there? How's the weather in Virginia, Washington,
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d C, Maryland, New Jersey, wherever you at today? How's
it up there? Hot? Yeah? But I love it. I
don't like the cod weather.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
So I'm not going to complain.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Amen, Amen pastor, how was your week, your holiday and
all that? Jazz? I know you shared a couple of
things with me, but.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
It was quiet. It was indoors, and I didn't go
anywhere got you.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Neither did I. I didn't feel like go. We had
training for the dog for jazz and that was enough.
That was enough for me. So Amen and Amen, Well,
we're gonna talk about let freedom ring, and we're gonna
continue that conversation because it's happening. I said, I want
my country back, and it's happening. I did some research
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and I put in there what businesses are moving back
to the United States, and all companies like Apple and
Honda and General Electric are already moving things back, building
new plants throughout the State's Apple they're gonna expand their
manufacturing capabilities and building a construction of a new factory
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in Texas. We've got Honda, they're doing things. They're leaving
Mexico and bringing the civic, new generation Civic back to
the States. We've got General Electric. Y'all remember General Electric. Now,
some of y'all may be too young for that, but
GE is still hanging in there. They are still doing
their thing, and it's up. We got them doing about face.
We're coming back to the US from China. From China,
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leveraging automation and skilled and a skilled workforce. Toyota is
buying a new battery plant in the Carolinas. Other companies
are doing the same. Samsung, LG, Hyundai, and Nissan are
making their way back. And I've just wanted to just see.
I didn't know what the results were going to be
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on the power of prayer, because I had said that
I want my country back, So I want new I
want business schools here teaching students what AI really is
and the threats of that. I need. We need electricians.
We need our plumbers. We need anything that can deprogram
these things when they're getting out of hand. We needed.
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I need that workforce. I need blue collar back. I
want blue collar back because if everybody else coming back,
big large industries, we need folks that can handle that
and repair. I need fashion schools coming back. I need
production folks coming back or emerging. You want to have
your own production company, we need it in the United States.
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If we needed in every state, we need a school
in every state that could provide that information. One of
my friends was telling me that her niece was going
to go do an internship, and all of a sudden
the agency just turned face and nobody knows why, and
canceled out and just crushous a little, this young lady's dream.
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We don't need that in the United States. We don't
need that. So if you can't be certified and justified
and sustainable, then you won't you won't come out, you
won't emerge, it won't go anywhere. We're not going to
have that. So the power of prayer, strategically and specifically
is really really key. And how do you know that
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you're doing it effectively? It's good companies are coming back
to you. Yes, we need to put our people back
to work with our companies here. Thank you, Charles. Good
to see you this evening. Yes, sir, he said. It
took it right out.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Of my mouth.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
And I know other I know that this would be
one issue, one declaration that everybody, no matter race, creed, color, religion,
your background, your gender, whatever, this is one thing we
will stand on one accord. Let's get America. Let's get
America back. We got people living on cruise ships. Now
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we got people going international and making a life. And
it's a lot cheaper, it's a lot cheaper, and it's
still starting their little businesses. We got that happening because
nobody wants to be in the US anymore. We're the
Land of the Free and Home of the brave. That's us.
Nobody can take that motto, nobody can take that title,
that status. That's us. And all the countries that are
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frowning on it. Okay, well you keep frowning, but you're
gonna be over there. Our people are here and this
is just me. Now the co hosts gonna speak for themselves,
but this is me. And this is one of my
prayer points that tomorrow I get to look at my
vision board. I look at it every thirty days. I
look at it the eighth of the month. I can
hardly wait to check off some things tomorrow come on
that and that's one of them. I want America sustainable again.
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No more vulnerabilities, no more. And if you can't be
with it, we ain't waiting on you. We ain't waiting
on you. We have taught you everything we know. Pastors
teaching everything he knows, Pastor Gena's teaching everything they know.
She knows Trey is teaching everything she knows. Uh uh,
she's learning everything she needs to learn. Uh uh. You
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got to put it to work. Now, you got to
put it into work. We can't beg you anymore, We
can't plead with you anymore. Please give your life to Jesus.
Please trust him. Keep judging a book by his cover,
Keep judging a book by his cover. He will show
you better than I can tell you. That's all I'm
gonna say to you. And you know who I'm talking to.
That's all I'm gonna say. There's something a lot of
spiritual warfare this past weekend. Pastor of course was I mean,
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of course, not of course, but he was under some
too with sickness. And you almost lost me. Guys, you're
almost that ten percent. Flesh was rising, it was rising
to another number. And see, that's one thing I don't
like about people. When you, when you come for me,
when you say things, when you misjudge, and I hear it.
I can see it all over your body. I can
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see it in your facial expression. I can read it
through your email, I can read it through your Why
you not communicating with me? I get it. I pick
it up. So then what you do is you're triggering
my flesh. And that's when I don't really like you.
I don't like you, and you become my enemy. You
become my enemy. And then God's ee, that's won't support
because he already knows your heart. He knows what you're
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thinking before we even know, before we even see a
sign of it. And I'm gonna save this as a sidebar,
and I want everybody to come on and let's talk.
But this is miss Gray talking, this is me talking.
Nobody knows what I'm about to say. When you owe
me money and you're refusing to pay, or you're putting
other priorities ahead of them, this loan your thief in
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my eyes, your thief THATU should not steal. And when
you have aught against your brother, God gives your way out.
Go to him, leave your gift on the altar and
go make peace. If you don't receive you, then go
get somebody else to go with you. So all this time,
whatever you're doing and you're trying to avoid me, just
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guess what Every tra as action goes before Him first.
So now you put God in this, and that's all
I'm gonna say. The attack came after my health last
week as well, I've had to change my whole everything,
and I've released everybody from my life, everybody, so you
can't depend on me anymore. You can't depend on me anymore.
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I even told my kids that as well. I released
everybody because I wasn't sure where all the attacks were coming.
And guess when it came for a pastor guess when
it came for a trade. My heart. You come from
my heart. My heart belonged. I gave my heart to
Jesus a long time ago. When it came to relationships,
I don't want you to. I don't want to meet
a man. I don't want to be tempted. I don't
want to remarry again. So I give my heart to
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you Lord, and then you're gonna come for my heart.
He will show you better than I can ever tell me.
I'm doing okay and a new thank you, and I
know you do. I felt I felt all of North Louisiana, Mississippi.
I felt you, all of y'all, Washington. I felt you.
I felt you because I was likely about to blow up,
cancel everything. I'm out, bye bye. You'll never see me again.
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And you know what thing I love about God. I
love it that he'll let us just go. We have
our little tantrums. I ain't doing it no more. I
ain't praying for nobody no more. I don't want to
talk to nobody no more. Got nobody, no mo. I'll
still read my word, but I don't want to deal
with nobody no more. So over right, you don't know,
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you don't understand why the deep attacking me? Why do
I keeping? That's why? Why?
Speaker 3 (11:39):
And then the boys you finished done? Do you?
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Guys said alrighty? Then yeah, and my angels be like,
do we write this down? No? Don't now, don't do nothing,
just wait, just wait a minute. But my angels didn't
leave me this time, because usually he'll just sit them
down for a minute. And I'm angel lists, so reject me.
Think that you're getting over on me, gossip about me,
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talk about me, don't wish me well, don't pray for me,
because all you're doing is putting another jewel in my crown.
And right now I'm working on my eighth ninth crown.
So thank you. And this is the only time preperly
that I won't use this format to whine and to
let you see how I whine and have my tantrum
because I have one as well. Because we out here
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doing all this work, Pastor we out here Trey taking
all these clients and all their issues, and they don't
want to change nothing. They just want to hand out.
They just want the next time you're gonna give away
the fish. They don't want to take the fishing classes.
We all here, lord, guys like and your point, But
God tells you and your point. You're like, Okay, I'm done.
I'm really done. I'm so sorry, and he forgives us.
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Let it out, give me nicky. We love you, I
love you, thank you. Yah. We know how to really
back in. But then we don't keep it though. That's
the difference between some of us and others. We don't
keep it. We don't let it go back in here
and we all and it's not dealt with, it's not healed,
and you're not recovered. We don't do that. We know
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how to. I'm gonna leave it out here. I'm gonna
leave it out here, and I leave it out here.
It's good to ben and stay. Yeah, let it go.
I may have to, we may have to do a
field trip to up there to Mississippi, Louisiana, wherever y'all at,
And we have a little intervention group. You have an
intervention for us.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
Have some to fay.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Oh, as long as it's not spicy. I take mine
with no pepper, thank you. But anyway to God be
the glory. Just lett y'all know. Hey, we're just as human.
We're just as human. But I see you, it doesn't
matter me. Don't fear me, Fear the God. I serve.
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Fear the God. I serve who I'm on. I got
him on more than stand by. I got him more
on protocol I can. All I have to do is say,
don't have to say a mumbling word. That's to the
other people. That's not to our audience. That's to the
other people who don't even watch the show. So it's
between you and me, it's between us and you, that's it,
because they don't even watch it. They don't even watch it.
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All right, guys, let's talk about, you know, let freedom ring,
where we're doing, what we're doing. Maybe what's some of
your hopes that things will happen? What do you want
America to get back to? And I don't want to
really get back to it because it. Really I have
a problem with the word resilient because it's like to
bounce back, the ability to bounce back. And I get
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where that came from and where that's coming from. But
in our world of therapy, I need you to bounce
better because I don't need you to go backwards. That's
where we met. I really need you to bounce better.
So what do y'all think? And what's your top three
pastor what's your top three that you're hoping that America
would regain and improve or improve upon? There we go,
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there we go or improve upon. I'm gonna be quiet.
I'm gonna mute myself because you know me, I can
talk to anybody. Well.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
I one of the things that I really find that
we we lack or we're not connected. We're not connected
to our Lord. We're we're allowing so many different things
to distract us, so many little things to worry us,
so many little things to burden us, and we lose,
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we lose our connection to the Lord. And and I
and I mentioned that because in one of my papers
that I wrote last week, I said, it's so interesting
how we have a situation like nine to eleven the
churches we're busting at the seams. Then we have the
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twenty twenty pandemic. Churches are closing. That to me is
the world needs to stop putting fear because we you know,
they feel that they can manipulate the situation and put
fear in people so they can manipulate them to do
what they want to do. And it's interesting that you
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use fear the Lord because that's in Proverbs ninety ten.
Fear the Lord the foundation wisdom, knowledge of the Holy
One results in good judgment. That is a powerful proverb
from Solomon. And that's exactly what we need, you know,
we need to stop fearing what we're scared of. You know,
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in nineteen seventy three they started putting fear in people
with masoline shortage, and we're still producing cars. We're wanting
to let people know that we're going to run out
of gas. Look at that. Here we are twenty twenty
five and more cars than ever. Want all American to
join together and be one and remember we are all
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people matter or what should all be together for each other?
Absolutely absolutely on stage, I would like us to teach
and learn from one another. There's so much to learn,
and you know, I'm gonna jump on on Anastagia's comment
real quick, because that's that's something that she's really touched
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on the pulse there. We're too busy learning from other
people and not doing the research. So what we're doing
is we're going by what other people think. How I'm sorry,
but that's not wise at all, because if you read something,
I read something, Pray read something, we're all gonna have
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three different interpretations. I mean, Pastor Gena and I were
watching a sermon. I got one thing out of it
and she got another thing at it. I'm like, did
we watch the same sermon? But that's just the way
it is. We have to value each other's interpretation instead
of saying, oh, you're wrong, why can't we just step
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back and say, hey, you never thought of it that way?
That's where learning comes. Isn't that what the Greek philosophers
were doing. They just sat around and talked about different things,
and that way they learned from one another.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Okay, amen, amen, yep. We need our farmer's man, yes, ma'am.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
And that's it. And you know what, and that's another thing.
Why don't they bring trade schools back? Why don't they
bring trade schools back because you know when I was
in school, we we mentioned it in one of our programs.
They had wood shop, mac mechanic school. You know, these
are trades where are needed. But yet you know they
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they figure that computer technology is gonna you know, who's
going to handle the nuts and bolts of it? So Trey, Uh,
bring back, bring back what we the foundation of this country,
This nation was founded on the beliefs in God. Grade
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schools teach one another, you know what, love one another.
That's exactly what Jesus talked about. Learn from the older
folks who have lived through things. Oh it's called respect.
What's called respect? And I think that's something that has
been lost over time. That's a shame.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
And I don't want to forget. We had a public
public service action that we're supposed to have done last
between the last week and so, so I want to
get back to that. But yeah, that's my aging adults
is my heart. And I believe the Lord is getting
me geared up to get back. And I'll be taking
Jazz with me just to see just to talk to them,
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let them know somebody is thinking about you and what
are your thoughts and what do you think about the world,
what the world needs now, and I really look forward
to that conversation. I've learned from my elders, and I
take great pride in that that I had something that
I can learn from. And I missed the fact that
my children didn't have a grandparenting experience, and uh, you know,
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I do miss that for them because I had a
great grandmother on the gray side and on the round
tree side as well towards her her ending, and I
learned a lot just to let them talk, just to
let them talk. So when you see a Tyler Perry movie, like,
you know, a family reunion, and I mean that's really
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the essence. I mean, a family reunion is like that.
It's divided up. The old men they sit and they
playing checkers, and you got the young people over here
doing this, and you got the mothers in the kitchen
still cooking and or they may not be cooking, but
they're doing their things. That's a real typical reunion. That's
what a real war looks like. You know, some of
them a little bit more modern. They got matching T
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shirts now, and they'll play games now, and you know,
and different things like that. But that's really the essence
of culture for the black American family as far as
reunion and stuff like that. But take a trade. What
what what would you like? What three things you like
to see? Come back at least three? Oh? Lord, when
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she closes her eyes, y'all.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
Well this is this is this is what I am
praying for. That the manipulative, the manipulative, the lies will
be revealed. You know. I pray that God will reveal
those who have been lying, manipulating situations, fear mongering, you know,
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the fear mongering. I pray that it's revealed because one
of the things is the making people fear of one
group of people, whether it's based on ethnicity, race, religion, beliefs.
You know that just this heartens me, it really does.
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And it's scary. It's scary because when you make people prayed,
it's like a cat. You back a cat up in
the corner, it's gonna come out fighting, you know, defense mechanism.
And so if you poured so much in, or so
much is poured into your head about a certain group
of people, you.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Can't see anything different.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
I pray, I pray that we learn to learn about
other people, their beliefs, their cultures, their religion. Not that
you have to agree with it, but at least understand it,
you know, I bray, I pray that people are not
afraid to read books. You know, I learned a lot
through reading books growing up different cultures. I learned about
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more about my culture, you know, if we're trying to
be transparent here, it wasn't a lot taught about my
culture growing up, but I had opportunity to get books
and puzzles and games that introduced more, not just what
I was taught at home, but to show that that, okay,
you know, there is more to us than that you know,
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so that you know, and I think I really do,
and and I think the other part is the hypocrisy
of using religion to justify your behaviors and acts against
other folks with make people think, well, is.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
That really what the Bible is saying?
Speaker 4 (23:23):
The God I know does not do that. You know,
He does not pit one group against the y'all correct
me if I'm wrong, does not put one group against
the other, does not do that.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
The God I know says love one another. You know.
That's the God that I know.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
But it's it's people pick and choose the sin that
outweighs the other sin. You know, it's multiple sins.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
I saw an interview the other day it's such and
such a sin.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
You will yet, but you know it's it's okay if
you just say that, when you say that, is that okay?
But no, it's not good to say that which one
is it?
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Which which one is?
Speaker 4 (24:00):
And I think getting back to your point, Pastor, one
of the things with the church is closing. It seems
like the churches are becoming, like you said, sparse, obsolete.
I think the way to go with some stuff, not
all stuff, is people are afraid of the traditional church,
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the four walls, you know, because of what's out there.
Now you know what I mean, if you're a person
that's new to Christ, if you're trying to follow the word,
if you don't know any better, but what you see
and what people depict that said that they're a Christian,
that they believe in God and they trust Jesus and
you to do.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
This, and you're doing that, you're losing people.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
You're losing people, you know, And I just like I said,
nothing is perfect, But I think people are afraid because
they're putting a lot of focus, especially hurting people.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
People are hurt. This is stuff we go through.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
Know at any given day, Miss Gray, I can go
to you, pastor, I can go to you for answers,
for guidance. But not everybody has a pastor, Girl macguil
or Miss Gray. Not everybody has that. Unfortunately, some people
are presented with what they have right in front of them,
and sometimes they're being misled.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
And so that's what I say. Those are some of
the things.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
I might have named more than three, but those are
some of the things on my heart. And like I said,
American we can do better. We as Christians can do better,
We as humans can do better. We as the United
States of America could do better. And I just pray
that we do better. I pray that we do better
because if we're divided, a country comes, they can disrupt.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
The whole thing.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
Why because we're not agreement with anything. They've got our
we spot And that's what people are saying, y'all are divided.
But yeah, you said united stand, divide, you fall, and
we're doing all this any country at this vulnerable.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
State and say, I got y'all now because y'all.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
Can't agree on anything. And that's the sad thing. And
I really pray on that. I really do pray man.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
When I was in the hospital seven years ago and
I woke up out of the coma and I was
they put the TV on for me, and I'm looking
at it and I'm like, what happened? And I was
in a coma for three weeks and I woke up
in twenty eighteen October, no November because it was close
to Thanksgiving. But I'm looking at the news and I'm like,
what the Holy Spirit spoke to me and said, yes,
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for the first time in a very long time, the
world is divided on every in every arena. It's divided
on every corner, on every street, is divided every church,
every house, every educational system. I was like what. And
we've been divided even more ever since. And I appreciate
what you said, trade about you know, and even pastor
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you know, like you said, I've written some books now,
but this is all from my point of view. The
blessings read the things I went through in these books,
they're for me. And God has said, I need you
to write this and put it in a book for
them because it will help somebody else. I'm not here
to tell you what to do and based on what
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I've been through, I don't know one person that can
handle it. And I'm not bragging at all because I'm
still reaping it. I'm still ricocheting from it. I'm still like, Okay,
I got my new normals go this way, and all
of a sudden something pops and I'm like, okay, let
me look over there. Oh okay, I gotta take a
piece of that. I gotta take a piece of that.
So when you when y'all read our books and read
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our you know, or listen to pastors, you know, a
sermon or Tray's presentation, I guarantee you no five people
gonna leave that arena with the same Oh I got
that too. Nope, you never say that. You always say
what you got out of it, what spoke to you.
And that's the whole thing about godliness and messages and
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sermons and books, you know, and and and presentations and lecture.
It's what you get out of it. My students used
to tell me years later, like, miss Gray, I remember
when you were telling me talking to me in class
five years ago, you know that really spoke to me.
I said, I don't, We've known each other for five years,
that that always gets me. And then number two what class,
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Oh with sociology introduction to sociology, you were saying how
God put the family together, and you, I don't remember
nothing once after semester is done, it's done. And just
like when I'm praying or preministering, preaching, teaching, and you
can say, you know what, you remember what you said
two weeks ago, m d. It came from God and
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it has nothing to do and no short term memory loss.
It's just he takes it away from it because I
love it, so I don't have I you know, I
know the channe lady who you said, Oh I told you,
didn't I tell you? I told you, See I spoke,
I said that I did, and I can't. I don't
like those ye messages. So I'm glad he takes it
away from me. I'm glad develop do your research. Like
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Pastor said, do your research. I'm so happy that he's
part of the team because he gives the scriptures. You
should be right go back and listen and have a
pad and pen and be writing down the scripture. Now
you'll go back studying them. I told y'all when I
first read the Bible all the way through. I did
it four years, one year behind each other. I had
stinto pads, taking notes, and I would look. I would
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go to Psalms eight, Psalms eight, Psalms eight, Psalms eight,
and have four different things. I got out of the
four different things, none circling back to each other. I'm like, wow,
and we stay at our word. I appreciate the men
and women that God has ordained, honestly ordained to minister
to us. But I got to go back to my word.
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Heard the interview of Monique the comedian today, bless all.
That's all I can say. And she and the person asked,
do you believe in God? She said, I believe in
the universe. I said, there you go, then you go.
Don't try to make nothing out of that. That's what
she believes. She says something. We call him God, some
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call them the universe. Okay, thank you. We were wondering,
but thank you for making that clear. It's okay. And
we're not here for everybody, not everybody. People we know personally,
their brothers and sisters in Christ, they go to church
with us, they talk God to us, they put godly
stuff on that pages and stuff like that, and won't
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watch this program, and they probably can't tell you why. We'd.
Some people run un once they see a little episode
and oh they praying, Oh God, here they go. No,
don't be judging this book by the cover. Don't be
doing just trust God. Try them. I'm telling y'all. We're
telling y'all, trying all of y'all. Get a copy of
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my last book. You may you know most of the
story anyway, but I promise you there's twelve of y'all,
thirteen forty fifteen, sixteen. We'll get sixteen different views of it,
no matter what I'm saying. And they've already tried to scientifically.
They put a group of ten people in the circle
and they whispered in one. By the time it goes
around and it comes back, that tenth person said, well,
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what I heard was what she said was that? And
the person who began I said, I didn't say that.
That was not left the third person, but I heard
it the fourth person. I'm hit like that what happened
was Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
Well, one thing I do want to say, if and
I'm just going to go out on a limb here,
and I think we Christians need to stop being so
that dumb, judgmental. I mean, the one who was qualified
to throw the rock and he didn't gives us the
right to throw rocks at anybody. I've learned long time ago.
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When you point your finger at somebody, you got three
pointing back at you.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Can you get it? I can't do that. I'm sorry, sir.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
See you can laugh at herself. That's a strong woman,
a strong woman. We can't even laugh at ourselves, because
when we laugh at ourselves we get offended. Who do
we think we are? We are children God and we
are to serve Him, not serve our egos. Come on, now,
if you've got breath, you should be thanking God. And
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you need to help somebody, not to help somebody. See
somebody struggling, help them out. I gave an example last
Wednesday on my sermon. Everybody says, oh, I'm a god person,
I'm a God person. How the Holy Spirit tells you
to give that person fifty dollars, And the first thing
you're going to do is look at your checking account
and see if you can give it up. Then all
of a sudden you're like, oh, I get paid tomorrow,
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so I'll make sure that when I'll come back here
tomorrow and I'll give that. Some people say, oh, you
did what God told you to do. Oh, that's called
disobedience because you didn't do it right when God said it.
So that's a test of faith there. You don't have it,
but you're gonna trust God that he's gonna that You're
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gonna give it to him. And God's gonna you know what,
God's not gonna give it to you because he's checking
your heart. And if you give it with joy, boy,
God loves it cheerful because if you so sparingly guess
what you're going to.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Get exactly what you put out.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
I say it with love and respect. We say we
are who we are. Be that person in your private room,
because who you are in your private room not the
same person.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Walk out the dropping the mic. And while we're on
that pastor, while we're on that head, don't fear us.
Don't fear your pastor, don't fear mankind at all. You
better fear God. Because you wonder why I don't have
Oh my goodness, I can't get. I can't get I'm
trying to do and I can't get nowhere. But if
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we don't have have it, how can we give it.
You don't. What if we do, we can just get
what we have and that not right? Yes, Charles, it is.
What he's saying is if you're withholding it, what's the scripture,
Sir says. If you your neighbor asks us something and
then you go away say I'll give it tomorrow, that's
that's scripture. It is that No, you could give it today.
I may not have it today, but I'm gonna come
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back and find will you be here tomorrow? Will you
be here next week?
Speaker 3 (34:25):
Have the scripture? The scripture you're talking about is when
Jesus had the disciples in front of the tax collectors
and here comes the widow. She gave two copper coins.
The disciples said, wow, this woman gave so little that
and Jesus turned to the disciples and said, no, you're
looking at it wrong. He gave it all because all
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these other people were giving the leftovers. She gave it
all trusting in God. That's what leaving it on the
field really neat.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
And I want to say this, this don't be gonna
this gonna pinch. You don't know when and where and
how God is gonna bless you. You've got so much
on the floor on you petition God for so much,
but you don't know how, when, what, which way He's
gonna do that? Then, but here you are withholding what
he told you to do, even if you know. Trade
comes to your mind and you're like, you know what,
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I don't know what's going on with it. But Lord,
be with her, that's all you have to say.
Speaker 4 (35:22):
Be with him.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
But you're like, oh, well, she's fine. She she doing fine.
She she got a job and everything else. She's happy.
And who are you to say that? You look at us.
You don't know what we're going through behind closed doors
unless God tell you. Many people like oh ms, Greg
got it. You know we ain't got to work. Oh
so I went through this so that you may have Really,
where is that? What scripture is that? Well?
Speaker 3 (35:44):
I was just pulled. I just pulled up. Malachi three ten, okay,
and Malachi three ten says, bring all the tides into
the storehouse, that there may be food in my house,
and try me. Now in this says the Lord. Right
then and there, the Lord is saying, bring it and try.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
Me, try me. I love it when they say that,
try me and see. Oh, I love it when he
tells you that try me. It's in the word. It's
in the word. If you're gonna check us, you better
check us with scripture. If you come in and say
something and it's your opinion. But I feel right there,
I'm not listening. You feel what did you do when
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you're in church. Let's say, for instance, pastor he opens
up a physical building. I'll be the first one on
the front row, and he says, well, you know, Pastor Gray,
I need you to go to the day cares. And
that's gonna be your ministry. That Lord has told me
that I need you to go to the day cares.
Make sure the family's needs are taken care of if
they've got any needs. Bring that back now, children are
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not my ministry. Children that are not my ministry. Let
me go to the nursing home. But you think I'm
gonna stand there and argue with him. He is mandated
to pray over my life. I'm gonna argue with him.
And yes, I may not like that, Like, oh my god,
I got to deal with children again. You know what,
the first thing I think of I think, okay, this
is okay, this is another forty year journey. Because somewhere
along the way, I missed it. I missed something, so
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now I got to repeat by going back to a
population I don't work with. So I'm not blaming him.
I'm looking at me, now, how did I miss that?
What did I miss? Lord? And please God, don't let
me miss it again, because I'm going to get to
my elderly. But if the only way I could get
to my elderly is to go to these daycare centers,
then that's what I'm going to do. And God is
so merciful, let me tell you what he does. Most
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of the children that the daycares are raised by their grandparents.
Six I'm gonna say the same thing, m h.
Speaker 4 (37:40):
I was gonna say the same thing.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
That you don't have a grandparent in their life. Oh,
I could go to the foster grandparent program and say,
can you adopt this daycare center? I need you to
adopt the seniors groups. Can you adopt this? This? This
the seniors in the ministry at the church. We need
three daycare centers adopted because they don't have they only
have caregivers, they don't have direct relative. God has his
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cake and eat it too. And I'm gonna stand here,
you pastors telling me Okay, now, Pastor leash, I need you.
You're gonna be ministering on Tuesday nights. And now he'll
get this. Look you sure me? Yeah? You? But everybody
speaks Spanish. Huh well no, okay, So what time do
I need to run my sermons by you? No? You
only need to run your service whatever God gives you. Okay,
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see that's what the leader is. Here's this leader handing
me the ball. He tells me the ride. I got
to go? What time every Tuesday? Frequency I got the ball?
Do I need to check back in with you?
Speaker 3 (38:41):
So?
Speaker 2 (38:41):
No, you don't. Okay, I'm gone. That's what. People don't
trust you that you can't even care nothing. I told
you to do it this way, but you want to
do it that way. Who are you? You don't even
listen to leadership and you expect God to bless that.
Show me scripture, back it up in scripture. Let me
show me in scripture. He says, you don't have to
listen to nobody. He talks about counsel is good when
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there's a war, get with leaders in council and the
people are safe in the safe in counseling. He talks
about that that's scripture. If you got anything to say
to me, bring the word with you as you bring
your opinion. I was just talking to I think my
son earlier and I was like, oh no, my Dogter's
he's so scared because I just say things. He'd be like,
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look because I'm like, you know these people you coming
from me? Who's life did you have impact on this week?
Who did you talk off the ledge this week? Who
did you impact this week? But yet you judging this
book by the cover. I encountered a child that had
the parent. So you were saying, don't question what if
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we are not sure what we heard? Oh no, sit still, misty,
don't you go off for what you think you heard.
Sit still, call us. Give us a call. Hey, you
know I heard. I thought I heard God saying this.
But give us a call. If you don't have anybody.
This is my faithful listeners, and I'm putting my co
hosts on. I'm putting on Front Street now. Guys, if
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they need.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
Us, you call us out loud enough say it.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
If you need us, you call us. Because I'm not judging,
but I perceive that you don't have leadership enough around
you that either you trust or that you could get
a hold of. So call us. We don't know everything,
we ain't try to know everything, but we know he
who knows everything. He is the alpha and the omega.
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He's the beginning and the end, and he does very
well with the in between. We know him on first
name basis because he knows the very on our heads.
He knows us, We know him, and he knows y'all
who are faithful every Monday.
Speaker 3 (40:51):
He knows you.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
He knows y'all all. He's saying to y'all tonight, I'm
talking to my faithful five, six, the faithful twelve. Try
and see, try him and see, and you I think
you trust us enough. If you're going wrong, we're gonna
tell you you're going wrong. We can tell you that.
But you still will love us in the morning. You'll
still pray for us in the morning because we brought evidence.
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Now the world is saying, oh, I got the receipts.
Oh yeah, we we got the war wound. Come on
at the war wounds. Amen. Hey, Ela, k that's tennessee
in the house. Amen. Well, anyway, that's how times you
can tell we love you so much. Please be safe.
You got our numbers by faithful five six, don't call
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that three five to two number. Get with rebel. She'll
give you myself that your We're here for you, not
that we don't have nothing else better to do. We
love you with the love of the Lord, and we
pray earnestly. We call you by name in prayer.
Speaker 4 (41:53):
Night night.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
We see you next week, same time, same station. Yeah,
we love you, Mi
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worthy to be praised. Please have your way, Please have
your way tonight. This is your show, this is your podcast,
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this is your opportuitunity to speak to your people to
set the record straight. And we thank you so much. God.
We don't even deserve, we don't deserve, we don't deserve it.
Yet you freely gave, you freely provided, you freely embraced,
and we thank you. Lord. We will have a moment
of silence for those families and that experienced the loss
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in Texas and for the disaster, the weather situations that
are going on in South Carolina, as North Carolina as
we speak, Comfort your people, make a way out of
no way for them. All the resources and everything that's needed,
please provide. We just thank you. Cover the conferences that
will be held that's going to be held here in
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Orlando this week and elsewhere. Be with your people. Lord,
we love you so much. Now, as always, we get
behind the cross. You have your way. We are on standby.
We will never come off the wall until you deem it.
So in Jesus name, we pray Amen. Amen. So, how's
the traffic up there? How's the weather in Virginia, Washington,
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d C, Maryland, New Jersey, wherever you at today? How's
it up there? Hot? Yeah? But I love it. I
don't like the cod weather.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
So I'm not going to complain.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Amen, Amen pastor, how was your week, your holiday and
all that? Jazz? I know you shared a couple of
things with me, but.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
It was quiet. It was indoors, and I didn't go
anywhere got you.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Neither did I. I didn't feel like go. We had
training for the dog for jazz and that was enough.
That was enough for me. So Amen and Amen, Well,
we're gonna talk about let freedom ring, and we're gonna
continue that conversation because it's happening. I said, I want
my country back, and it's happening. I did some research
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and I put in there what businesses are moving back
to the United States, and all companies like Apple and
Honda and General Electric are already moving things back, building
new plants throughout the State's Apple they're gonna expand their
manufacturing capabilities and building a construction of a new factory
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in Texas. We've got Honda, they're doing things. They're leaving
Mexico and bringing the civic, new generation Civic back to
the States. We've got General Electric. Y'all remember General Electric. Now,
some of y'all may be too young for that, but
GE is still hanging in there. They are still doing
their thing, and it's up. We got them doing about face.
We're coming back to the US from China. From China,
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leveraging automation and skilled and a skilled workforce. Toyota is
buying a new battery plant in the Carolinas. Other companies
are doing the same. Samsung, LG, Hyundai, and Nissan are
making their way back. And I've just wanted to just see.
I didn't know what the results were going to be
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on the power of prayer, because I had said that
I want my country back, So I want new I
want business schools here teaching students what AI really is
and the threats of that. I need. We need electricians.
We need our plumbers. We need anything that can deprogram
these things when they're getting out of hand. We needed.
(05:29):
I need that workforce. I need blue collar back. I
want blue collar back because if everybody else coming back,
big large industries, we need folks that can handle that
and repair. I need fashion schools coming back. I need
production folks coming back or emerging. You want to have
your own production company, we need it in the United States.
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If we needed in every state, we need a school
in every state that could provide that information. One of
my friends was telling me that her niece was going
to go do an internship, and all of a sudden
the agency just turned face and nobody knows why, and
canceled out and just crushous a little, this young lady's dream.
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We don't need that in the United States. We don't
need that. So if you can't be certified and justified
and sustainable, then you won't you won't come out, you
won't emerge, it won't go anywhere. We're not going to
have that. So the power of prayer, strategically and specifically
is really really key. And how do you know that
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you're doing it effectively? It's good companies are coming back
to you. Yes, we need to put our people back
to work with our companies here. Thank you, Charles. Good
to see you this evening. Yes, sir, he said. It
took it right out.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Of my mouth.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
And I know other I know that this would be
one issue, one declaration that everybody, no matter race, creed, color, religion,
your background, your gender, whatever, this is one thing we
will stand on one accord. Let's get America. Let's get
America back. We got people living on cruise ships. Now
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we got people going international and making a life. And
it's a lot cheaper, it's a lot cheaper, and it's
still starting their little businesses. We got that happening because
nobody wants to be in the US anymore. We're the
Land of the Free and Home of the brave. That's us.
Nobody can take that motto, nobody can take that title,
that status. That's us. And all the countries that are
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frowning on it. Okay, well you keep frowning, but you're
gonna be over there. Our people are here and this
is just me. Now the co hosts gonna speak for themselves,
but this is me. And this is one of my
prayer points that tomorrow I get to look at my
vision board. I look at it every thirty days. I
look at it the eighth of the month. I can
hardly wait to check off some things tomorrow come on
that and that's one of them. I want America sustainable again.
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No more vulnerabilities, no more. And if you can't be
with it, we ain't waiting on you. We ain't waiting
on you. We have taught you everything we know. Pastors
teaching everything he knows, Pastor Gena's teaching everything they know.
She knows Trey is teaching everything she knows. Uh uh,
she's learning everything she needs to learn. Uh uh. You
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got to put it to work. Now, you got to
put it into work. We can't beg you anymore, We
can't plead with you anymore. Please give your life to Jesus.
Please trust him. Keep judging a book by his cover,
Keep judging a book by his cover. He will show
you better than I can tell you. That's all I'm
gonna say to you. And you know who I'm talking to.
That's all I'm gonna say. There's something a lot of
spiritual warfare this past weekend. Pastor of course was I mean,
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of course, not of course, but he was under some
too with sickness. And you almost lost me. Guys, you're
almost that ten percent. Flesh was rising, it was rising
to another number. And see, that's one thing I don't
like about people. When you, when you come for me,
when you say things, when you misjudge, and I hear it.
I can see it all over your body. I can
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see it in your facial expression. I can read it
through your email, I can read it through your Why
you not communicating with me? I get it. I pick
it up. So then what you do is you're triggering
my flesh. And that's when I don't really like you.
I don't like you, and you become my enemy. You
become my enemy. And then God's ee, that's won't support
because he already knows your heart. He knows what you're
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thinking before we even know, before we even see a
sign of it. And I'm gonna save this as a sidebar,
and I want everybody to come on and let's talk.
But this is miss Gray talking, this is me talking.
Nobody knows what I'm about to say. When you owe
me money and you're refusing to pay, or you're putting
other priorities ahead of them, this loan your thief in
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my eyes, your thief THATU should not steal. And when
you have aught against your brother, God gives your way out.
Go to him, leave your gift on the altar and
go make peace. If you don't receive you, then go
get somebody else to go with you. So all this time,
whatever you're doing and you're trying to avoid me, just
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guess what Every tra as action goes before Him first.
So now you put God in this, and that's all
I'm gonna say. The attack came after my health last
week as well, I've had to change my whole everything,
and I've released everybody from my life, everybody, so you
can't depend on me anymore. You can't depend on me anymore.
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I even told my kids that as well. I released
everybody because I wasn't sure where all the attacks were coming.
And guess when it came for a pastor guess when
it came for a trade. My heart. You come from
my heart. My heart belonged. I gave my heart to
Jesus a long time ago. When it came to relationships,
I don't want you to. I don't want to meet
a man. I don't want to be tempted. I don't
want to remarry again. So I give my heart to
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you Lord, and then you're gonna come for my heart.
He will show you better than I can ever tell me.
I'm doing okay and a new thank you, and I
know you do. I felt I felt all of North Louisiana, Mississippi.
I felt you, all of y'all, Washington. I felt you.
I felt you because I was likely about to blow up,
cancel everything. I'm out, bye bye. You'll never see me again.
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And you know what thing I love about God. I
love it that he'll let us just go. We have
our little tantrums. I ain't doing it no more. I
ain't praying for nobody no more. I don't want to
talk to nobody no more. Got nobody, no mo. I'll
still read my word, but I don't want to deal
with nobody no more. So over right, you don't know,
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you don't understand why the deep attacking me? Why do
I keeping? That's why? Why?
Speaker 3 (11:39):
And then the boys you finished done? Do you?
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Guys said alrighty? Then yeah, and my angels be like,
do we write this down? No? Don't now, don't do nothing,
just wait, just wait a minute. But my angels didn't
leave me this time, because usually he'll just sit them
down for a minute. And I'm angel lists, so reject me.
Think that you're getting over on me, gossip about me,
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talk about me, don't wish me well, don't pray for me,
because all you're doing is putting another jewel in my crown.
And right now I'm working on my eighth ninth crown.
So thank you. And this is the only time preperly
that I won't use this format to whine and to
let you see how I whine and have my tantrum
because I have one as well. Because we out here
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doing all this work, Pastor we out here Trey taking
all these clients and all their issues, and they don't
want to change nothing. They just want to hand out.
They just want the next time you're gonna give away
the fish. They don't want to take the fishing classes.
We all here, lord, guys like and your point, But
God tells you and your point. You're like, Okay, I'm done.
I'm really done. I'm so sorry, and he forgives us.
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Let it out, give me nicky. We love you, I
love you, thank you. Yah. We know how to really
back in. But then we don't keep it though. That's
the difference between some of us and others. We don't
keep it. We don't let it go back in here
and we all and it's not dealt with, it's not healed,
and you're not recovered. We don't do that. We know
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how to. I'm gonna leave it out here. I'm gonna
leave it out here, and I leave it out here.
It's good to ben and stay. Yeah, let it go.
I may have to, we may have to do a
field trip to up there to Mississippi, Louisiana, wherever y'all at,
And we have a little intervention group. You have an
intervention for us.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
Have some to fay.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Oh, as long as it's not spicy. I take mine
with no pepper, thank you. But anyway to God be
the glory. Just lett y'all know. Hey, we're just as human.
We're just as human. But I see you, it doesn't
matter me. Don't fear me, Fear the God. I serve.
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Fear the God. I serve who I'm on. I got
him on more than stand by. I got him more
on protocol I can. All I have to do is say,
don't have to say a mumbling word. That's to the
other people. That's not to our audience. That's to the
other people who don't even watch the show. So it's
between you and me, it's between us and you, that's it,
because they don't even watch it. They don't even watch it.
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All right, guys, let's talk about, you know, let freedom ring,
where we're doing, what we're doing. Maybe what's some of
your hopes that things will happen? What do you want
America to get back to? And I don't want to
really get back to it because it. Really I have
a problem with the word resilient because it's like to
bounce back, the ability to bounce back. And I get
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where that came from and where that's coming from. But
in our world of therapy, I need you to bounce
better because I don't need you to go backwards. That's
where we met. I really need you to bounce better.
So what do y'all think? And what's your top three
pastor what's your top three that you're hoping that America
would regain and improve or improve upon? There we go,
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there we go or improve upon. I'm gonna be quiet.
I'm gonna mute myself because you know me, I can
talk to anybody. Well.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
I one of the things that I really find that
we we lack or we're not connected. We're not connected
to our Lord. We're we're allowing so many different things
to distract us, so many little things to worry us,
so many little things to burden us, and we lose,
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we lose our connection to the Lord. And and I
and I mentioned that because in one of my papers
that I wrote last week, I said, it's so interesting
how we have a situation like nine to eleven the
churches we're busting at the seams. Then we have the
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twenty twenty pandemic. Churches are closing. That to me is
the world needs to stop putting fear because we you know,
they feel that they can manipulate the situation and put
fear in people so they can manipulate them to do
what they want to do. And it's interesting that you
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use fear the Lord because that's in Proverbs ninety ten.
Fear the Lord the foundation wisdom, knowledge of the Holy
One results in good judgment. That is a powerful proverb
from Solomon. And that's exactly what we need, you know,
we need to stop fearing what we're scared of. You know,
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in nineteen seventy three they started putting fear in people
with masoline shortage, and we're still producing cars. We're wanting
to let people know that we're going to run out
of gas. Look at that. Here we are twenty twenty
five and more cars than ever. Want all American to
join together and be one and remember we are all
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people matter or what should all be together for each other?
Absolutely absolutely on stage, I would like us to teach
and learn from one another. There's so much to learn,
and you know, I'm gonna jump on on Anastagia's comment
real quick, because that's that's something that she's really touched
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on the pulse there. We're too busy learning from other
people and not doing the research. So what we're doing
is we're going by what other people think. How I'm sorry,
but that's not wise at all, because if you read something,
I read something, Pray read something, we're all gonna have
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three different interpretations. I mean, Pastor Gena and I were
watching a sermon. I got one thing out of it
and she got another thing at it. I'm like, did
we watch the same sermon? But that's just the way
it is. We have to value each other's interpretation instead
of saying, oh, you're wrong, why can't we just step
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back and say, hey, you never thought of it that way?
That's where learning comes. Isn't that what the Greek philosophers
were doing. They just sat around and talked about different things,
and that way they learned from one another.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Okay, amen, amen, yep. We need our farmer's man, yes, ma'am.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
And that's it. And you know what, and that's another thing.
Why don't they bring trade schools back? Why don't they
bring trade schools back because you know when I was
in school, we we mentioned it in one of our programs.
They had wood shop, mac mechanic school. You know, these
are trades where are needed. But yet you know they
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they figure that computer technology is gonna you know, who's
going to handle the nuts and bolts of it? So Trey, Uh,
bring back, bring back what we the foundation of this country,
This nation was founded on the beliefs in God. Grade
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schools teach one another, you know what, love one another.
That's exactly what Jesus talked about. Learn from the older
folks who have lived through things. Oh it's called respect.
What's called respect? And I think that's something that has
been lost over time. That's a shame.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
And I don't want to forget. We had a public
public service action that we're supposed to have done last
between the last week and so, so I want to
get back to that. But yeah, that's my aging adults
is my heart. And I believe the Lord is getting
me geared up to get back. And I'll be taking
Jazz with me just to see just to talk to them,
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let them know somebody is thinking about you and what
are your thoughts and what do you think about the world,
what the world needs now, and I really look forward
to that conversation. I've learned from my elders, and I
take great pride in that that I had something that
I can learn from. And I missed the fact that
my children didn't have a grandparenting experience, and uh, you know,
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I do miss that for them because I had a
great grandmother on the gray side and on the round
tree side as well towards her her ending, and I
learned a lot just to let them talk, just to
let them talk. So when you see a Tyler Perry movie, like,
you know, a family reunion, and I mean that's really
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the essence. I mean, a family reunion is like that.
It's divided up. The old men they sit and they
playing checkers, and you got the young people over here
doing this, and you got the mothers in the kitchen
still cooking and or they may not be cooking, but
they're doing their things. That's a real typical reunion. That's
what a real war looks like. You know, some of
them a little bit more modern. They got matching T
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shirts now, and they'll play games now, and you know,
and different things like that. But that's really the essence
of culture for the black American family as far as
reunion and stuff like that. But take a trade. What
what what would you like? What three things you like
to see? Come back at least three? Oh? Lord, when
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she closes her eyes, y'all.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
Well this is this is this is what I am
praying for. That the manipulative, the manipulative, the lies will
be revealed. You know. I pray that God will reveal
those who have been lying, manipulating situations, fear mongering, you know,
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the fear mongering. I pray that it's revealed because one
of the things is the making people fear of one
group of people, whether it's based on ethnicity, race, religion, beliefs.
You know that just this heartens me, it really does.
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And it's scary. It's scary because when you make people prayed,
it's like a cat. You back a cat up in
the corner, it's gonna come out fighting, you know, defense mechanism.
And so if you poured so much in, or so
much is poured into your head about a certain group
of people, you.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Can't see anything different.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
I pray, I pray that we learn to learn about
other people, their beliefs, their cultures, their religion. Not that
you have to agree with it, but at least understand it,
you know, I bray, I pray that people are not
afraid to read books. You know, I learned a lot
through reading books growing up different cultures. I learned about
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more about my culture, you know, if we're trying to
be transparent here, it wasn't a lot taught about my
culture growing up, but I had opportunity to get books
and puzzles and games that introduced more, not just what
I was taught at home, but to show that that, okay,
you know, there is more to us than that you know,
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so that you know, and I think I really do,
and and I think the other part is the hypocrisy
of using religion to justify your behaviors and acts against
other folks with make people think, well, is.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
That really what the Bible is saying?
Speaker 4 (23:23):
The God I know does not do that. You know,
He does not pit one group against the y'all correct
me if I'm wrong, does not put one group against
the other, does not do that.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
The God I know says love one another. You know.
That's the God that I know.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
But it's it's people pick and choose the sin that
outweighs the other sin. You know, it's multiple sins.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
I saw an interview the other day it's such and
such a sin.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
You will yet, but you know it's it's okay if
you just say that, when you say that, is that okay?
But no, it's not good to say that which one
is it?
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Which which one is?
Speaker 4 (24:00):
And I think getting back to your point, Pastor, one
of the things with the church is closing. It seems
like the churches are becoming, like you said, sparse, obsolete.
I think the way to go with some stuff, not
all stuff, is people are afraid of the traditional church,
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the four walls, you know, because of what's out there.
Now you know what I mean, if you're a person
that's new to Christ, if you're trying to follow the word,
if you don't know any better, but what you see
and what people depict that said that they're a Christian,
that they believe in God and they trust Jesus and
you to do.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
This, and you're doing that, you're losing people.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
You're losing people, you know, And I just like I said,
nothing is perfect, But I think people are afraid because
they're putting a lot of focus, especially hurting people.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
People are hurt. This is stuff we go through.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
Know at any given day, Miss Gray, I can go
to you, pastor, I can go to you for answers,
for guidance. But not everybody has a pastor, Girl macguil
or Miss Gray. Not everybody has that. Unfortunately, some people
are presented with what they have right in front of them,
and sometimes they're being misled.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
And so that's what I say. Those are some of
the things.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
I might have named more than three, but those are
some of the things on my heart. And like I said,
American we can do better. We as Christians can do better,
We as humans can do better. We as the United
States of America could do better. And I just pray
that we do better. I pray that we do better
because if we're divided, a country comes, they can disrupt.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
The whole thing.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
Why because we're not agreement with anything. They've got our
we spot And that's what people are saying, y'all are divided.
But yeah, you said united stand, divide, you fall, and
we're doing all this any country at this vulnerable.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
State and say, I got y'all now because y'all.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
Can't agree on anything. And that's the sad thing. And
I really pray on that. I really do pray man.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
When I was in the hospital seven years ago and
I woke up out of the coma and I was
they put the TV on for me, and I'm looking
at it and I'm like, what happened? And I was
in a coma for three weeks and I woke up
in twenty eighteen October, no November because it was close
to Thanksgiving. But I'm looking at the news and I'm like,
what the Holy Spirit spoke to me and said, yes,
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for the first time in a very long time, the
world is divided on every in every arena. It's divided
on every corner, on every street, is divided every church,
every house, every educational system. I was like what. And
we've been divided even more ever since. And I appreciate
what you said, trade about you know, and even pastor
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you know, like you said, I've written some books now,
but this is all from my point of view. The
blessings read the things I went through in these books,
they're for me. And God has said, I need you
to write this and put it in a book for
them because it will help somebody else. I'm not here
to tell you what to do and based on what
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I've been through, I don't know one person that can
handle it. And I'm not bragging at all because I'm
still reaping it. I'm still ricocheting from it. I'm still like, Okay,
I got my new normals go this way, and all
of a sudden something pops and I'm like, okay, let
me look over there. Oh okay, I gotta take a
piece of that. I gotta take a piece of that.
So when you when y'all read our books and read
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our you know, or listen to pastors, you know, a
sermon or Tray's presentation, I guarantee you no five people
gonna leave that arena with the same Oh I got
that too. Nope, you never say that. You always say
what you got out of it, what spoke to you.
And that's the whole thing about godliness and messages and
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sermons and books, you know, and and and presentations and lecture.
It's what you get out of it. My students used
to tell me years later, like, miss Gray, I remember
when you were telling me talking to me in class
five years ago, you know that really spoke to me.
I said, I don't, We've known each other for five years,
that that always gets me. And then number two what class,
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Oh with sociology introduction to sociology, you were saying how
God put the family together, and you, I don't remember
nothing once after semester is done, it's done. And just
like when I'm praying or preministering, preaching, teaching, and you
can say, you know what, you remember what you said
two weeks ago, m d. It came from God and
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it has nothing to do and no short term memory loss.
It's just he takes it away from it because I
love it, so I don't have I you know, I
know the channe lady who you said, Oh I told you,
didn't I tell you? I told you, See I spoke,
I said that I did, and I can't. I don't
like those ye messages. So I'm glad he takes it
away from me. I'm glad develop do your research. Like
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Pastor said, do your research. I'm so happy that he's
part of the team because he gives the scriptures. You
should be right go back and listen and have a
pad and pen and be writing down the scripture. Now
you'll go back studying them. I told y'all when I
first read the Bible all the way through. I did
it four years, one year behind each other. I had
stinto pads, taking notes, and I would look. I would
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go to Psalms eight, Psalms eight, Psalms eight, Psalms eight,
and have four different things. I got out of the
four different things, none circling back to each other. I'm like, wow,
and we stay at our word. I appreciate the men
and women that God has ordained, honestly ordained to minister
to us. But I got to go back to my word.
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Heard the interview of Monique the comedian today, bless all.
That's all I can say. And she and the person asked,
do you believe in God? She said, I believe in
the universe. I said, there you go, then you go.
Don't try to make nothing out of that. That's what
she believes. She says something. We call him God, some
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call them the universe. Okay, thank you. We were wondering,
but thank you for making that clear. It's okay. And
we're not here for everybody, not everybody. People we know personally,
their brothers and sisters in Christ, they go to church
with us, they talk God to us, they put godly
stuff on that pages and stuff like that, and won't
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watch this program, and they probably can't tell you why. We'd.
Some people run un once they see a little episode
and oh they praying, Oh God, here they go. No,
don't be judging this book by the cover. Don't be
doing just trust God. Try them. I'm telling y'all. We're
telling y'all, trying all of y'all. Get a copy of
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my last book. You may you know most of the
story anyway, but I promise you there's twelve of y'all,
thirteen forty fifteen, sixteen. We'll get sixteen different views of it,
no matter what I'm saying. And they've already tried to scientifically.
They put a group of ten people in the circle
and they whispered in one. By the time it goes
around and it comes back, that tenth person said, well,
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what I heard was what she said was that? And
the person who began I said, I didn't say that.
That was not left the third person, but I heard
it the fourth person. I'm hit like that what happened
was Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
Well, one thing I do want to say, if and
I'm just going to go out on a limb here,
and I think we Christians need to stop being so
that dumb, judgmental. I mean, the one who was qualified
to throw the rock and he didn't gives us the
right to throw rocks at anybody. I've learned long time ago.
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When you point your finger at somebody, you got three
pointing back at you.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Can you get it? I can't do that. I'm sorry, sir.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
See you can laugh at herself. That's a strong woman,
a strong woman. We can't even laugh at ourselves, because
when we laugh at ourselves we get offended. Who do
we think we are? We are children God and we
are to serve Him, not serve our egos. Come on, now,
if you've got breath, you should be thanking God. And
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you need to help somebody, not to help somebody. See
somebody struggling, help them out. I gave an example last
Wednesday on my sermon. Everybody says, oh, I'm a god person,
I'm a God person. How the Holy Spirit tells you
to give that person fifty dollars, And the first thing
you're going to do is look at your checking account
and see if you can give it up. Then all
of a sudden you're like, oh, I get paid tomorrow,
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so I'll make sure that when I'll come back here
tomorrow and I'll give that. Some people say, oh, you
did what God told you to do. Oh, that's called
disobedience because you didn't do it right when God said it.
So that's a test of faith there. You don't have it,
but you're gonna trust God that he's gonna that You're
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gonna give it to him. And God's gonna you know what,
God's not gonna give it to you because he's checking
your heart. And if you give it with joy, boy,
God loves it cheerful because if you so sparingly guess
what you're going to.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Get exactly what you put out.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
I say it with love and respect. We say we
are who we are. Be that person in your private room,
because who you are in your private room not the
same person.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Walk out the dropping the mic. And while we're on
that pastor, while we're on that head, don't fear us.
Don't fear your pastor, don't fear mankind at all. You
better fear God. Because you wonder why I don't have
Oh my goodness, I can't get. I can't get I'm
trying to do and I can't get nowhere. But if
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we don't have have it, how can we give it.
You don't. What if we do, we can just get
what we have and that not right? Yes, Charles, it is.
What he's saying is if you're withholding it, what's the scripture,
Sir says. If you your neighbor asks us something and
then you go away say I'll give it tomorrow, that's
that's scripture. It is that No, you could give it today.
I may not have it today, but I'm gonna come
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back and find will you be here tomorrow? Will you
be here next week?
Speaker 3 (34:25):
Have the scripture? The scripture you're talking about is when
Jesus had the disciples in front of the tax collectors
and here comes the widow. She gave two copper coins.
The disciples said, wow, this woman gave so little that
and Jesus turned to the disciples and said, no, you're
looking at it wrong. He gave it all because all
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these other people were giving the leftovers. She gave it
all trusting in God. That's what leaving it on the
field really neat.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
And I want to say this, this don't be gonna
this gonna pinch. You don't know when and where and
how God is gonna bless you. You've got so much
on the floor on you petition God for so much,
but you don't know how, when, what, which way He's
gonna do that? Then, but here you are withholding what
he told you to do, even if you know. Trade
comes to your mind and you're like, you know what,
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I don't know what's going on with it. But Lord,
be with her, that's all you have to say.
Speaker 4 (35:22):
Be with him.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
But you're like, oh, well, she's fine. She she doing fine.
She she got a job and everything else. She's happy.
And who are you to say that? You look at us.
You don't know what we're going through behind closed doors
unless God tell you. Many people like oh ms, Greg
got it. You know we ain't got to work. Oh
so I went through this so that you may have Really,
where is that? What scripture is that? Well?
Speaker 3 (35:44):
I was just pulled. I just pulled up. Malachi three ten, okay,
and Malachi three ten says, bring all the tides into
the storehouse, that there may be food in my house,
and try me. Now in this says the Lord. Right
then and there, the Lord is saying, bring it and try.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
Me, try me. I love it when they say that,
try me and see. Oh, I love it when he
tells you that try me. It's in the word. It's
in the word. If you're gonna check us, you better
check us with scripture. If you come in and say
something and it's your opinion. But I feel right there,
I'm not listening. You feel what did you do when
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you're in church. Let's say, for instance, pastor he opens
up a physical building. I'll be the first one on
the front row, and he says, well, you know, Pastor Gray,
I need you to go to the day cares. And
that's gonna be your ministry. That Lord has told me
that I need you to go to the day cares.
Make sure the family's needs are taken care of if
they've got any needs. Bring that back now, children are
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not my ministry. Children that are not my ministry. Let
me go to the nursing home. But you think I'm
gonna stand there and argue with him. He is mandated
to pray over my life. I'm gonna argue with him.
And yes, I may not like that, Like, oh my god,
I got to deal with children again. You know what,
the first thing I think of I think, okay, this
is okay, this is another forty year journey. Because somewhere
along the way, I missed it. I missed something, so
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now I got to repeat by going back to a
population I don't work with. So I'm not blaming him.
I'm looking at me, now, how did I miss that?
What did I miss? Lord? And please God, don't let
me miss it again, because I'm going to get to
my elderly. But if the only way I could get
to my elderly is to go to these daycare centers,
then that's what I'm going to do. And God is
so merciful, let me tell you what he does. Most
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of the children that the daycares are raised by their grandparents.
Six I'm gonna say the same thing, m h.
Speaker 4 (37:40):
I was gonna say the same thing.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
That you don't have a grandparent in their life. Oh,
I could go to the foster grandparent program and say,
can you adopt this daycare center? I need you to
adopt the seniors groups. Can you adopt this? This? This
the seniors in the ministry at the church. We need
three daycare centers adopted because they don't have they only
have caregivers, they don't have direct relative. God has his
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cake and eat it too. And I'm gonna stand here,
you pastors telling me Okay, now, Pastor leash, I need you.
You're gonna be ministering on Tuesday nights. And now he'll
get this. Look you sure me? Yeah? You? But everybody
speaks Spanish. Huh well no, okay, So what time do
I need to run my sermons by you? No? You
only need to run your service whatever God gives you. Okay,
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see that's what the leader is. Here's this leader handing
me the ball. He tells me the ride. I got
to go? What time every Tuesday? Frequency I got the ball?
Do I need to check back in with you?
Speaker 3 (38:41):
So?
Speaker 2 (38:41):
No, you don't. Okay, I'm gone. That's what. People don't
trust you that you can't even care nothing. I told
you to do it this way, but you want to
do it that way. Who are you? You don't even
listen to leadership and you expect God to bless that.
Show me scripture, back it up in scripture. Let me
show me in scripture. He says, you don't have to
listen to nobody. He talks about counsel is good when
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there's a war, get with leaders in council and the
people are safe in the safe in counseling. He talks
about that that's scripture. If you got anything to say
to me, bring the word with you as you bring
your opinion. I was just talking to I think my
son earlier and I was like, oh no, my Dogter's
he's so scared because I just say things. He'd be like,
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look because I'm like, you know these people you coming
from me? Who's life did you have impact on this week?
Who did you talk off the ledge this week? Who
did you impact this week? But yet you judging this
book by the cover. I encountered a child that had
the parent. So you were saying, don't question what if
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we are not sure what we heard? Oh no, sit still, misty,
don't you go off for what you think you heard.
Sit still, call us. Give us a call. Hey, you
know I heard. I thought I heard God saying this.
But give us a call. If you don't have anybody.
This is my faithful listeners, and I'm putting my co
hosts on. I'm putting on Front Street now. Guys, if
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they need.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
Us, you call us out loud enough say it.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
If you need us, you call us. Because I'm not judging,
but I perceive that you don't have leadership enough around
you that either you trust or that you could get
a hold of. So call us. We don't know everything,
we ain't try to know everything, but we know he
who knows everything. He is the alpha and the omega.
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He's the beginning and the end, and he does very
well with the in between. We know him on first
name basis because he knows the very on our heads.
He knows us, We know him, and he knows y'all
who are faithful every Monday.
Speaker 3 (40:51):
He knows you.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
He knows y'all all. He's saying to y'all tonight, I'm
talking to my faithful five, six, the faithful twelve. Try
and see, try him and see, and you I think
you trust us enough. If you're going wrong, we're gonna
tell you you're going wrong. We can tell you that.
But you still will love us in the morning. You'll
still pray for us in the morning because we brought evidence.
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Now the world is saying, oh, I got the receipts.
Oh yeah, we we got the war wound. Come on
at the war wounds. Amen. Hey, Ela, k that's tennessee
in the house. Amen. Well, anyway, that's how times you
can tell we love you so much. Please be safe.
You got our numbers by faithful five six, don't call
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that three five to two number. Get with rebel. She'll
give you myself that your We're here for you, not
that we don't have nothing else better to do. We
love you with the love of the Lord, and we
pray earnestly. We call you by name in prayer.
Speaker 4 (41:53):
Night night.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
We see you next week, same time, same station. Yeah,
we love you, Mi
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