April 7, 2025 • 48 mins
Limb-loss, limb difference, proclamations, awareness, advocacy
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Speaker 2 (01:18):
Amen, Amen, Amen, and men.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Good evening, good evening, good evening. Yeah, and we're here.
It's April. April is here, March is gone. May is
just around the corner. It's just around the corner. Literally,
summer is approaching. Summer is here.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Let's get it this list. Just face the facts, face
the facts. Anyway. Let's pray.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
First, Lord, we just thank you when we praise you,
we give you glory, for you alone are worthy to
be praised. We thank you for your love, your saving grace,
your mercy, your forgiveness, oh, your forget for forgetting our sins.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
We just thank you and.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
That you you course correct us every every single step
we take, even when we were about to veer off,
you gently yank us back and help us to stay focused. Lord,
we need you more than ever before. And we're gonna
say that every day until I take my last breath,
because you know we need you. We can't do it
without you. We're not going to do it without you.
(02:16):
We love you so much. Now this is your podcast.
This is your one of many times to speak to
your people, and we thank you. We're gonna get behind
the cross. We're gonna wait with expectation and bait it breath.
We love you so much and we give you the praise.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Do what you do best.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Lord, set your captors free. In the name of Jesus,
we pray, and the church said amen and amen.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Amen. Hey y'all, how y'all's doings right? That's all? Okay, yeah, okay, okay,
Well we'll waiting. There she is, she is.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
This is our guest tonight, and I'm gonna stand up
a little bit so you can see I'm representing. There
you go representing. That was the last minute costume change.
I was wearing something else that God said no.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Put this on to represent both of you.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
So anyway, she's coming in as soon as we can
get her face on here and.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
All that good stuff. This is Uh Sahun.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
I call her sahoun, the Korean title for uh, your
instructor in taekwondo, but most folks know her as Master
G and Master G.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
I'm undo your.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Camera so we can see you, please, so they'll know
you're real. Okay, Well, I'm gonna talk a little bit
about her and just amazing. I met her at the
AMPT Coalition conference that was held.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Two years ago. Yes, can you see us? Can you wave?
She's getting there, She's getting there.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Anyway, I met her at the conference, and I think
I shared with you all at some point. I saw
the itinerary and they said, you know, self defense, and
I was like, well, that wasn't fair. My occupational therapist
came and I said that wasn't fair. They had her
at seven o'clock in the morning, and I'm.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Like, that's just for the conference people. That's staying here.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
I'm not driving nowhere at seven o'clock in Orlando, okay,
and expected to be there seven. So I was a
little upset with that, but I went on and it
chose my other courses and she my ot and I
met up after our second course, I think, and I said,
oh my god, they changed. I looked at the marquee
and they had changed, and they had placed the Taekwondo
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demonstration is self defense at eleven o'clock that morning. I
forgot about everything, and I said, I got to be there.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
I got to Now.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Some people almost ran me over with their little hover arounds.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
That's another story, yeah, but they were anxious to get there.
It was and say, can you hear me? Can you
hear you? Look frozen? Speak?
Speaker 3 (05:05):
It's gonna get crazy. It's okay, it's okay. Oh dear,
you're freezing up over there, but it's okay.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
We can let's see if we can hear you. Can
we hear you? Okay? Now, if you have to go
back out off and come on on your phone, that's fine.
We'll be here. But anyway, and it was awesome.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
She had us breaking boards, She had us breaking boards.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
She even taught how to take someone in.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Someone's knife from around your neck. It was really interesting
and I was just so excited to be there, and
I was like wow. And at the end, I took
her card, her business card, and I looked and she's here.
She's here in Longwood. She's around the corner almost, and
I'm like, oh my gosh, she's here. I'm thinking they
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flew her in from out of state, like these other
speakers and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
She's right here.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
And I'm gonna tell you about her. Her uh, her
nonprofit and the arts itself. It's a charity Empowered to
Save Souls and home of the world class taekwondo with
Master g And she's big on empowerment, community and transformation,
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coming together through the scientific principles of authentic taekwondo.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
And powerful self and powerful self defense.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
And she is That is definitely what you see when
you walk into the arena and there's other students that
are there are just remarkable and I know, like myself,
I'm sure they're like they never thought that they would
be able to do the arts at all at all.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
And here you walk into the arena with her. She
teach you.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
You bow in and she gets started, and you feel like, hey,
I can do this, he can do this.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
So who can you speak? Try talking? No, I don't
know what's wrong by on your phone.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Okay, well she's gone, let me text her real quick
at tell her to trial on her phone. Okay, try
on your phone now as I And I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
I was just so excited that that.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
April is National Limb Loss and Limb Difference Awareness Month.
We've got the whole month and the color is orange.
The only real live advocate body that really embraces limb
loss limb difference.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Is the Amputee Coalition. They they are the only ones.
They're the main.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Ones that they are nonprofit as well. They include everybody,
all ages, if you have a limb loss or you
have a limit, if you experience a limb difference, a
lot of advocacy.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
They've allowed us to some of us to excuse me,
become lead advocates for our state. I've shared with y'all.
I accidentally did that, I mean to I.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Was involved in a community meeting online and they said, yeah,
I go to our website. So you go to the
website and they're like, oh, and if you click on
lead advocate, you know, and check that out. So they're
talking and you know, answering question. So I was just
you know, looking around the website like we do, and uh,
sure enough, took a quiz and uh, next thing I know,
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I got a certificate of being a lead advocate.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Now it's not that easy anymore. They beefed it up.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
A bit, but I was like, oh, I don't mean
to do that. There she is, she's moving and everything.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
Listen, okay, do not work.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Oh oh, you see how the devil is. You see
how the devil is.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
Nobody's stopping me.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Man, Okay, thank you, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
Guys.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Let's welcome, master g But I call her sahoon sah yeah.
Say so. It's like, yeah, let's get her around to
the far banks. I represent it.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
I thought you'd have your on yourself, but that's okay.
God changed me at the last minute, so it's all good.
But I gave them a brief idea and now I'm
gonna go mute, and I'm gonna let you do some
talking here. But if you could tell us what's on
your heart, but also include your seventh degree and what
that means to the world.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
And why taekwondo for our population. But you already know
where you need to go. So I'm gonna mute because,
like you know, I can out talk anybody.
Speaker 5 (09:40):
There you go, here we go, and I love your voice.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
Everyone can hear me. Okay, yes, yeah, back up just
a bit here. Thank you so much for having me.
I did watch a few of you not watch, but
I listened to a few of your shows. So it's
really nice to put a face with the name. So
thank you both for having me and Chaplin Gray, of course,
thank you for having me. Why taekwondo? This is just
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something that started when I was ten years old. My
mother had put us into a lot of different different things.
She was a single mom at the age of thirty
three because my father had fallen victim to gun violence
at the age of thirty six.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
So she kept us busy, kept us.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
Busy, my sister, I say us, my sister and I
kept busy. We did all kinds of different things, horseback riding, rollers, skating,
all these dance and then it was martial arts. And
after two years of martial arts, she said, okay, that's it.
You got to pick something because all this is too expensive.
Speaker 5 (10:40):
What are we going to do?
Speaker 4 (10:41):
And it was martial arts for me. From there forward,
I never stopped. I never turned back, I never strayed.
I stuck with the founder and creator, General Cha Hunghe.
Taekwondo turned seventy years old this year, just to March
twenty second. Taekwondo, yeah, seventy years. It's the most modern
form of martial art. I don't count something like a
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UCL for mixed martial arts, and these are not your
traditional you know there are mixed martial arts, So a
taekwondo it was for me. General Cha the founder signed
my first, second, third, and fourth degrees. Beyond that he
passed in two thousand and two, and then his predecessor,
the second highest rank in the whole world, Grandmaster of
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Hung Kwong Sung, still alive and kicking well. And I'll
see him on April sixteenth, in fact in Connecticut. Can't
wait to see him again. Give him a big old hug.
He has signed my fifth, sixth, and seventh degrees. The
seventh degree is quite important because a few reasons. In
our Taekwondo federation, many different taekwondos. Just like jeanes or
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cell phones. You have a smartphone, but then you have
an Android and an iPhone.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
When it comes to.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
Genes, you may have like a jordash And I'm going
to say, Sassoon, I'm dating myself here. Different types, different variation,
So we have taekwondo, but in multiple variations. There's a
lot of what you would call mik do jangs out there.
We're an authentic, original itf Taekwondo School. Our World Training
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Center is in Lake Mary, Florida. We do a lot
of great work there and we also partner with about
seven nonprofits, some of them are listed here on our
board doing those things here in central Florida. But the
Taekwondo in our federation, you don't become master until seventh degree.
The word in Korean is sahung and that is a
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seventh degree. So first, second, third degree are called novice.
For a black belt, fourth, fifth, sixth degree that's an instructor,
seventh and eighth degree that is a master, so a
master of my art and skill. And that took me
thirty eight years to attain. And that's about five more
years than it would or any other male doing the
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same thing that I'm doing. Absolutely so it took a
lot longer. My sister and I were also the very
first female black belts in that school back in nineteen
eighty five, and I still today where my black belt
that was issued in nineteen eighty five. It used to
go around me twice. It used to have my maiden
name on it that has since ripped off in my hand,
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not on purpose, but it ripped off on a tie
one day, and I let it go because I'm not
that person anymore. And today Master g that's my title,
and one of three female masters in our federation, the
Unified International Taekwondo Federation, under Grandmaster of Huang Kwang Song.
And yeah, he's so beautiful. The man changed so many lives.
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His global initiatives span one hundred and sixty two countries.
I mean, just incredible. One of three females. I'm going
to have the opportunity and privilege to meet my counterpart
in Australia this weekend. In fact, it'll be in Connecticut. No,
not in Connecticut, Union City, New Jersey. I'll be meeting
Master I and d Smith. And she's one of those
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three now on the whole. After General Cha the founder passed,
a lot of people kind of came creeping out of
the woodwork and creating their own itf federation. You know
this happens when a leader falls and people felt privileged,
I guess to create their own one being his son,
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General Chase Son. That's one organization and there's about three
to four other organizations out there. Amongst all the organization,
I'm only one of twelve female masters.
Speaker 5 (14:45):
And that just blows my mind. Right, we just ladies.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
We have kids, we have careers, we have husbands, and
we take care of so much. So most of the
women do drop out. They drop out. One student in particular,
she's a snowbird here in Florida, seventy one years old,
and she dropped out for twenty whole years and then
came back and now she's a fifth degree Tudous to her.
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I don't know that she'll still be, you know, doing more,
but seventy one years old, fifth degree is pretty impressive.
Speaker 5 (15:15):
So that is why taekwondo.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
Taekwondo has given me everything, a platform from which to
stand on. It's given me strength, empowerment, it's given me
the ability to empower In only the last four years,
seventy five hundred individuals with these programs. And that is
I say the last four years because that's the only
time it's been a nonprofit. I ran a school for
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twenty five years before converting it into a profit. Turning
it into the nonprofit changed my world, changed my world
and impacted all of these people, including miss Gray so
thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Well, I tell you, and I've told my co host
and our audience forever that when it comes to martial arts,
I was in see Goldjaru, which is hard karate and
a whole different habit everything. And I used to pick
at folks, the competitors that did taekwondo because to.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Me, they were hands and feet. And I know, and
it was a lady.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
We were at a competition back in my hometown and
this lady, I kept saying to my colleague, they're nothing
but hands and feet. There's nothing but and this lady said,
all martial arts, ha hand if he does, said, no,
they are hands and feet. And when he saw what
I was doing, he went on and he kept getting
his points and he won the start. And this is
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the second time in my whole life that God has said, Okay,
now you've been picking at these folks for a long time.
Ain't nobody else thinking about limb lost folk or limb
difference folk or people who transport differently.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
And then you come to the conference a conference.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
My first time going, I was very nervous because I
I've become a part of this population of amputeeism, and
you know, I'll get all the stairs and everything else.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
But on my vision I have not because you asked
not vision board.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
I do have on there to get a black belt
and that at the time in tai chi, and you know,
because tai chi is so pretty, but you can it's
a movement, it's an art, and so it's.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Still on there. And trust me, I did not know how.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
God was going to open any door for that, because
not only with tai chi, you mainly have to go
out of the country almost to get a black belt
in that. And so net Loan is somebody here doing that.
And then I went, I saw your description of your
workshop and I said, and I told Christina, I said,
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look now it got self defense with martial arts for us.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
And it's at seven o'clock in the morning, you know,
And was like, what are they doing? That's one of
those other folk and stuff.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
And if you don't mind sharing caring, how did the
amputee coalition find you?
Speaker 2 (18:03):
I'm going to show you what what miracles look like.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
This is absolutely another miracle in motion. So I was awarded.
It took me about six months to apply for and
be awarded the Google ad Grant for my nonprofit didn't
know what I was doing, doing the best I can.
Speaker 5 (18:21):
I'm a little techye, but not overly techie.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
But I did everything I could to try to use
the ten thousand dollars a month of Google ad grant
dollars to get the mission out there to Central Florida,
Central Florida. I cut it out about a twenty five
mile radius because I didn't know what I was doing.
You know, I figured my workshops all take place here
in Central Florida, so let me go ahead and do
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that twenty five months. I figured it was going to
be better for me. So one day I'm shopping in
home depot for my flowers. I love to garden. It
gives me peace, and I pick up the phone. Some
the beautiful lady says to me, can you talk about
self defense for an hour? Of course, yes, ma'am. How
can I help? And she says, well, we're calling out
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of Washington, DC, and we found you, and we think
you're the perfect person to come on in and introduce
inclusive martial arts to the limb loss and limb difference community.
And I had never worked with anybody with limb loss
or limb difference before. I had seen some videos online
some people doing the work. Incredible people with a loss
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of one leg places where they don't have prosthetics, so hopping, jumping,
skipping everything, fighting, breaking boards, all on one leg. These
folks are featured on my tube channel and just amazing. So,
you know, I show up, they tell me seven in
the morning, and I complained a little bit, but it
was such a blessing.
Speaker 5 (19:47):
I didn't want to complain.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
I just said, this is the earliest I've ever done
a class, even summer camp back with Grandmaster Huang. We
did not start until eight am. And that was year
after year after year in the hot sun doing what
we did, and we didn't start until eight am. But
at seven am and there we were, and miss Gray,
you shared your story with me in class one. You
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saw the description, you had a difficult time getting there,
You got there, you were seated in that audience. There
was about one hundred people seated in that audience. That
YouTube is also on and in fact, you may even
seen Miss Gray break in a board. Something about her
stood out to me. She wasn't even in a center aisle.
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She we just made eye contact, and I'm like, yeah, okay,
I'm gonna go I'm gonna go walk over to her,
and I did to show. The first technique that I
teach everybody is your palm heel. This is something that
any self defense class they're going to tell you about.
The palm heel. This is your own human weapon. So
let me go ahead and debunk right there about taekwondo
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being all about the hands beat only. I'm gonna go
ahead and quote Grandmaster Miguel Reyes, our current president, and
he said it so beautifully. He says, Taekwondo is not
just about hands and feet. Taekwondo is a philosophy, a history,
it's a meditation, it's a pathway to human perfection, and
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it's also a pathway to world championships. There's so much
more to it than just hands and feet. There's a
whole mind body connection, the movement that we do, and
all of these things that we do. So it is
definitely way more well rounded than just the hands and
the feet, including starting with your breath, starting with our breath.
So getting back to the palm, he'll strike, this is
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something that we develop our whole life.
Speaker 5 (21:38):
Think about it.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
Every time you push something, you're using it, every time
you fall on something, you're using it. This is your
weapon that nobody can take away from you. So and
to prove that this is a strong weapon that you
never ever have to practice using or develop. Like the
knuckles you have to develop punch, but the palm he'll know.
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And even at a time, I did not know of
miss Gray's finger loss, I didn't know that. I see
the amputee arm on one side. You know, in a
conference where there's a thousand people with limb laws, you know, Okay,
I walk over to her. She looks at me with
this look. You can see it, I think in the
video as well. Oh no, she's not picking me? Does
she pick me? I walked right over to her, and yes, ma'am,
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here's the board you try and boom there she did
for a shot, I believe, maybe second because you were nervous,
but got right through that board. And just the incredible,
Like is why I wear a body cam in my classes,
because I get so much of the shock factor. The
people who do these and execute these techniques had no
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idea that they were capable of doing such a thing.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Now.
Speaker 5 (22:46):
The following that was Orlando.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
The following year, in Atlanta, Georgia, there was an eighty
one year old man in a scooter, double amputee on
the legs and he said to me after the class,
he said, I had no idea I could do such things.
Speaker 5 (23:01):
You changed my life.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
And I just brought tears to my eyes because it's
another miracle emotion. I've had nonverbal speak after three years
of being in my class. I've had a blind person
who fell in love with breaking boards. He loves to
break boards. Cerebral palsy students breaking boards getting up out
of their chair to get on the podium for the
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winner's podium for their metal for competition, just amazing things.
Amazing an amputee, I share one story if I may,
Is it okay? You have another question?
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (23:36):
An MPTU came to me. She did martial arts like
you miss Gray before before her incident, and she was
about to lose the second leg. And she told me
that she shared with me in about two weeks time,
she was going to lose her second leg and she
went ahead and broke the board on her right side,
no problem. I asked her to do her left side
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and she says, I'm really not comfortable with that. And
I looked her square in the eye, because this is
after I already had the experience of teaching all of
those people in Orlando. I looked her straight in the
eye and I said, ma'am, you're about to lose another limb.
I think it's important now that you start using your
left hand. So we started like hesitantly. We started with
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the yellow board, that's the small board, and we started
with the blueboard, and then we did the red board.
She worked her way up to the blackboard, and she
was in tears. I was in tears because she got
through that blackboard and the way that we both kind
of saw it, she walked out there with another limb,
the one she wasn't using, the one she wasn't going
to lose. And that was just a beautiful thing to.
Speaker 5 (24:38):
Go on and on with story. Do you want more story?
I got one more story?
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Good one. Okay, well, I want to add this part.
Speaker 6 (24:44):
Now.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
You couldn't miss me because I had on a lime
green shirt T shirt. You couldn't. I just got to
say that that's the picture we got that she took
up all of us the lime green I told my
can you pick me out wales? Well though, okay, next story.
Speaker 4 (24:59):
Oh yeah, there was a woman who had just gotten
new prosthetics, and she was very wobbly, very wobbly, walking wobbly.
And here we are with doubly a few tees and
they're kicking, front kick, they're hitting targets, they're doing stuff.
Even a young boy. I'll never forget this boy. That's
a whole nother story. But his name was Henry, and
he said to me, you got to trust the process
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when I asked him a question, and boy, that's.
Speaker 5 (25:23):
Stuck with me. So I wanted to just throw that
in there.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
But this woman was walking and walking and trying to
get her balance, and then I taught her the power
of the breath, that when you walk and you breathe
at the same time, keep your corese center, your belly
button being your center, keep it all center. Keep your
arms in so that you're not flailing some pounds, well
you know, fifteen pounds go in the opposite direction, fall
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into the floor.
Speaker 5 (25:47):
A ten pound arm.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
Who knows right whatever, But taught her that, and literally
fifteen minutes later, she had our arms up in a
nice parallel block, hands covering her head, picking up her
prosthetic leg and front kick front kick, front kick with
the breath.
Speaker 5 (26:03):
The transformation.
Speaker 4 (26:05):
Transformation on that video in the YouTube is so like
jaw dropping because you see her wobbling. In fact, I
use the words I think. I said, ooh, you need
a spotter, you know, because that's very friendly with people.
Right over held her hand another ampiutea woman was holding
her hand, and we got through that together, and fifteen
minutes later, there she was.
Speaker 5 (26:26):
She was off.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
And in fact, our lesson was supposed to close at
three o'clock and we stayed until five twenty insecurity came out.
Speaker 5 (26:33):
Yeah, that's how much work we were doing. We did
good work.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
Yeah, time flies, time flies. Even in that workshop, time
was flying. And she handled the crowd really well because
there were some people who just wanted to, you know,
just grab some attention and all this, and I don't know,
and it doesn't it never, you never, it never goes
without saying. If you're in a crowd of people, you've
got several types of audience folk.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
And they were there.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
They were there even though they were on their scooters
and things like that, and they wanted the attention and all.
But she handled the class really well. Okay, it was
your turn, now it's your turn. But so can you
talk about now you've got a wide variety now including
me because I think I'm your first limb loss. Yes, ma'am,
possibly limb loss. But you've got such a variety of
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students here locally and your presence on social media because
you have a whole set of students like all around online.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Can you talk a little bit more about that? And again,
you know, I don't think you know. I'll say that
the last and then guys, you got coming with your questions.
Speaker 6 (27:42):
I know y'all have some.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Don't be playing like y'all don't.
Speaker 6 (27:46):
So.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
The World Class Team World Class Taekwondo. This began in
nineteen ninety seven, and it began as Eastern Taekwondo because
it was in Connecticut's Eastern Then when I transferred here
in twenty tens, changed it to World Class Taekwondo. I
just be a little bit different, rebranded, and here we
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are and in the World Class Team. Their age is
three to seventy one in the same class white belts
through black belts in the same class.
Speaker 5 (28:16):
It's how I went through the ranks. And because I.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
Don't need to use tactics like a mcdojang where they
put all white belts in one class, all yellow in class,
all green in one class, or maybe just an intermediate
class and an advanced class. We are all together because
the black belts should never forget where they came from,
and the white belts and the earlier belt should always
know what they have to.
Speaker 5 (28:37):
Look forward to.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
And everybody helps everybody, and then we become a teaching school,
so our black belts are always learning and our red
belts as well are learning to teach. And then that
expands to the nonprofits the outreach that we do. So
I have multiple students who go out and help teach,
and I meet about four hundred people a week, more
than half present with disabilities. That's where we're at today.
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The online program, Miracles in Motion, is to reach people
that perhaps have body shame, they don't want to go
to a gym. Perhaps they've been dissed before, disrespected from
another instructor, which does happen in our community, and it's
all about discipline respect. Unfortunately, there will be instructors out
there that take advantage and wear people down, and then
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that black belt drops and the student may never pick
it up again.
Speaker 5 (29:26):
So I also wish to reach them because I want them,
open your home, open your heart.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
Let's teach people. We can do this anywhere, we can
do this in the whole world. And basically I can
present myself to be the Missus Rogers of Taekwondo online
teaching people. But we need those bodies out there, people
to help help go out there and teach. And we
do look for sponsors for that program as well as
a sponsor on the Miracles in Motion program that reaches worldwide.
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Three hundred dollars for your logo and one hundred dollars
for a motivational quote. It is a click through And
I like when people say official official seamstress of Master
g or a world class team, you know, official driver
of the world class team. We like to do so
that's an option to support the online mission. So those
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with the body shame those who can't get a ride.
Speaker 5 (30:19):
There are so many of my.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
Four hundred students weekly, I would say about a dozen
of them who just really love the camaraderie. They just
love the attention, They love the camaraderie.
Speaker 5 (30:29):
So can I FaceTime you? Can I call you?
Speaker 4 (30:32):
Now?
Speaker 5 (30:32):
Can I call you?
Speaker 4 (30:33):
And by the way, I am a part time two
and a half day a week but a little bit
more right now, accountant, and.
Speaker 5 (30:39):
It's tax season, y'all.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
So two and a half days a week, I could
profit in the other two accountant. So when they try
to reach out and talk to me, it's a difficult time.
But I like to have them online as well, because
some don't have rides. They don't have rides. We have
a beautiful program down here. Access Links is a great
program for people to get to the locations.
Speaker 5 (31:01):
That they need to get to, just police students.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
But sometimes it's just you know, people can't go as seniors,
maybe they don't drive anymore, they can't get to the gym.
Just reaching all different walks of life. People to just
get online, move and the body moves, the brain grooves
something I like to say, it's cheesy, but it's real.
Speaker 5 (31:22):
It's real. Got to keep moving when I.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
Meet I said, the respect that we get even before
I got my top, just to walk with her into.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
The why just everybody's friendly.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
Everybody's like wow, they're as already checking you out, like oh,
and then they look at her and I mean I
saw the looks and they were like wow.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
And it's just it's just it's amazing and it's just.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
A you know, I just love the Lord so much
because he knows what we need and he will make
sure that if this is something you need to be
a part of, you're.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Going to be a part of. And I'm going to
prof this is what you want, I know your heart.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
And I take one on one private lessons for right now,
because first I know I'll be a slight distraction if
I walk into No No, No on a serious note,
because everybody's like ooh, and I'm like okay, because the
people that when I MC the program and they came
over to the table, they had to come over to
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the table and they were like, what happened to us?
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Oh Lord, I can't even m see a program?
Speaker 6 (32:27):
You know?
Speaker 3 (32:27):
But anyway, I dis liked that because I'm still feeling
my way. I'm still trying to get my Stamini and
everything up under me. But you don't know how much
this really And my foot surgeon and all my OT
team and my PT team, they're.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Just like almost, great, Okay, what is it that you
can't do?
Speaker 4 (32:47):
You know?
Speaker 2 (32:48):
I say, well, it found me, you know, but it's
on my vision board. Y'all need a vision board so
that you can have things direct you. But guys, you
have any questions for it nowhere members out there. I
know y'all keep it silent because you really are probably
totally shocked at this. Oh you go.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
Would you say anyone could do the sec There you go, missy,
thank you. Would you say that anyone could do this activity?
You can be very Oh mickey.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
I wanted to make sure anybody could do this. Say
who That was a question that came from the audience.
Anybody do this?
Speaker 4 (33:17):
Anybody can do this. It is just my personal preference
to not accept those that are not. That's why you
know what three you know? And I've had students up
to eighty three and the tallest student is seven feet
and the smallest is like two and a half feet,
So a why variety of students? The reason, shall I say,
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the reason anybody can do this is builty science. This
is all built on science. What I teach out there
is the if theory of power. Theory of power. We
start with our breath control. Anytime you blow out t's
and s's, you're going to be stronger. That's where it starts.
Our breath control, our mass, our speed, our equilibrium, our
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reaction force, and our concentration, and those are all the
things that Miss Gray is learning. So she learned she
doesn't have to just step with her muscles. She can
use the floor to propel her forward. This is what
all of our students that we move the way that
we move our body. It just a car has a propellant,
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an airplane has a propellant. We also have a propellant.
Speaker 5 (34:29):
It's the floor. Let the floor push you. So you
just spring off.
Speaker 4 (34:34):
People in sports, other sports like baseball or basketball, they're
going to understand the spring. You know, people who do skateboarding, snowboarding,
I've done all these things. You understand the power of
hang time and weight distribution when you go flying off
a you know, a ramp and you got that little
bit of hang time. Like, all of these things are
part of what we do. Concentration. The best way to
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explain it. A common garden hose you spray, that hose
comes out a certain power. You put a little cover
on that with your thumb, you start to make that
whole a little smaller, and now the water comes out
a lot faster. That's the equivalent of punching with maybe
a whole fist two knuckles.
Speaker 5 (35:16):
We want to go with just the two.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
Knuckles, the whole slap hand, or just the palm. He'll
concentrate and where you strike also matters. So there's so
much to the science of this, and I debunk a
lot of things that I see online, a lot of
self defense escapism, a lot of things that require physical
strength and power. It doesn't need to be like that.
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You want to learn how to beat people up or
flip people, you can come to our world class team training.
But in our workshops, we teach escapism through science, just science.
I always grab the biggest person in the room first,
grab my arm. Here we go, and I just stand
there and I just stand there and I just pull
it right out.
Speaker 5 (35:55):
And they're like, what did you do?
Speaker 2 (35:57):
What did you do? Science?
Speaker 4 (35:59):
Science Our breath control, our concentration, reaction force, speed, something
we work on, and yeah, pull it it all together.
So there's such a science behind this.
Speaker 5 (36:09):
Anybody can do it. And I do have three year
olds that understand. They understand the arc hand.
Speaker 4 (36:15):
On the back of a neck, what that does to
someone trying to pick them up, pick up their legs,
pick them up and put them over their shoulder.
Speaker 5 (36:22):
That's all they got to do.
Speaker 4 (36:23):
Redirect you're redirecting. You're not picking somebody else up and
throwing them. You're just redirecting somebody else's body weight.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
It's amazing.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
One of our audience members asked if the members students
can learn from each other, and have you seen that?
Speaker 2 (36:39):
Now?
Speaker 3 (36:39):
All right, now, y'all start asking questions. Now, don't let
me you know, we'll run this thing.
Speaker 5 (36:43):
We all learned.
Speaker 4 (36:44):
How much have I learned from you, miss Gray? How
much I have learned from you? I mean that is
a number one. But like you said, my students are
so different, so different. For the first time, I had
a cerebral palsy student break a heavy board with something
called a bow wrist. Now a bow wrist, I show
you here, but as if you were to try to
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take your index finger and touch the inner of your
elbow as hard as you can, you're going to create.
Speaker 5 (37:13):
That bow wrist.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
And he pulled it right on up and popped right
through the board using breadth, hung right through it and
broke that board. It took us time to get to
the heavy board. We only do board breaking the last
week of every month, so it took three sessions. So
that was three months, but it was only three classes
that he did it.
Speaker 5 (37:33):
He did that.
Speaker 4 (37:33):
We were so proud. I learned so much from everybody.
One student said to me.
Speaker 5 (37:39):
They say, master G. I know he likes to call
me sahian Gi. He says, Master G. When I walk
and breathe at the same time, I don't fall over.
Anybody can learn.
Speaker 4 (37:48):
I didn't know that it was that powerful until a
student brought it to my At another student doing just
a simple drill, taking a ball like a beach ball,
raising it up over the head and handing it to
another student behind him, I said, I didn't know you
could raise your arms like that. He said, neither did I.
Speaker 5 (38:06):
I mean, boy, that is something in all the movement.
Speaker 4 (38:11):
There's so many small discoveries that just would never have known,
and we.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
Don't realize how much we hold ourselves back, absolutely because
of fear, because I can't believe I'm doing this.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
And I know when we first met, I asked, can
we meet so you can assess me?
Speaker 3 (38:29):
Because she had I mean, it's different, you know, like
she said, she didn't know all of my you know,
missing parts.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
And you know, and I met her and she's at
this park and she walks barefoot.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
Literally, she shorted me, and I'm like, you know, you
ain't looked this way at the place, but you know,
and I kept saying, I just need you to assess
and if you could deal with a person like myself,
And I did tell her there will be times I
may push back, I may be getting that stubborn and like, okay,
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I just thought I can't do this today.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
I can't do this today. And she walks right along
with me.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
And you think we've known each other for years. If
you came to see a session, you would think that
we haven't. You know, it's just been a few months.
But she's got that god given gift, that talent of
reading people. She starts where we at and she you
tell her the history I've told about my history from
years ago of that, but she's like, yeah, probably.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
And she saw me. I got ready to step and.
Speaker 3 (39:32):
In nisig Jeru, you circle, you do a c as
you stepped, she said, no, no, no, you don't need
to do the sea.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
She caught me right there and she said let's stop
right there. And I was like, whoa. And I didn't
even remember it's been over thirty years since I've done this.
Speaker 3 (39:45):
But your body reacts, you know, and then she said okay,
and I went to do a movie. She goes, no,
you don't have to do that because you're bouncing. You
don't need to bounce.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
I mean, she'll catch you and we stop it and
we go over it, and we go over it. So,
Pastor Miguel, you have a question.
Speaker 6 (40:00):
Well, I was going to say that as a former
fellow student back in when you got your first degree.
It's when I started martial arts back in eighty five,
but I stopped as an orange belt, and when I
moved from and I was studying in Texas, and when
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I moved from Texas to Miami, I tried kung fu
and that didn't last too long because I was a
dad and that just interfered. The one thing that you
did say, and I have to agree with you that
one of the things that I learned while I was
studying the martial arts, it's that you're you're not doing
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all the work. You're using your your your attackers weight
against them, and you're using your You become the folkrum
and you're you're the one that's directing their energy against them,
and then that puts them on the ground. So that
was one thing I did learn and that was that
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was ah. And then the other thing you touched on
was I was a picture. I was crying out for
the Texas Rangers as a picture. So yeah, yeah, yeah,
all the all the all the secrets are coming out
and that's great. Yeah. So so yeah, and you're absolutely right.
People don't understand that when you're that your your breathing
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technique is what gives you that lbstra energy that you're
looking for to follow through. And that's and that was
the that was one of the things that they taught us,
which is very important. People don't understand. And to the
point that you were bringing up of how people were
amazed of themselves, and I was kind of in I
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was kind of intrigued because I learned even the angels
during creation applauded God he was create the world because
they were amazed of what He's able to do. And
that's what people don't understand. We have the capabilities of
doing everything that we have been designed to do. But
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it's just the voice that you want to listen to,
because if you're listening to the wrong voice, you're going
to give your brain wrong information. When you're able to
just do it and understand and you said the key
word trust process because one of the things that people
don't remember he learned how to walk. How many times
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do you remember falling? You don't. All you know is
the final product and you're walking, so you don't remember
all of the mistakes you made while you were learning.
The end product is that you are walking. And that's
why your people don't understand. And my wife said it
was the other day. Your mind such a powerful source
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and if you put the wrong information in it, putting
the wrong source in it, you're going to have the
wrong energy. Whereas when you when you're putting the right
things into it, then the way you respond, the way
you conduct yourself in the world is going to reflect
what you put in. So there's my martial arts, my
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martial arts one oh one that I can give to you.
I can expound on there.
Speaker 4 (43:26):
Thank you so much, Pastor mcguel. Think it is one
thing about that science because you said baseball. My husband
has did baseball for over twenty years. And the best
correlation that I can give on that is in baseball,
when we throw a ball, we're going to use backward motion.
Backward motion first you start backward and then you move forward.
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So in our art, the authentic Taekwondo, we always have
backward motion, with few exceptions, but we have backward motion.
So when we punch, it doesn't look like other martial arts.
It doesn't just come straight forward from your elbows forward motion.
Your range of motion comes from backward with a hip
and a shoulder attached, and your whole body becomes one.
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And we bounced, and we don't bounce, We we draw,
we lower our weight, we raise our weight. We have
the backward motion already cocked and ready to go, and
we dropped down using gravity as our course and punch straightforward.
So I love the reference because pitching is exactly that.
You did the same thing. You dropped your weight, you
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came up, and you dropped it again. He and I
had my husband and I had talked about that because
when you go and swing to hit that bat, you're
doing the same thing, you know, with that body weight,
the movement.
Speaker 5 (44:44):
Thank you for checks.
Speaker 2 (44:47):
We only got two more minutes, We only got okay,
the seventh degree.
Speaker 6 (44:53):
As a seventh degree, your schedule is absolutely booked. How
I bring that up because many people say, well, I
don't have time to read the Bible because I'm so
busy as a master, you still have to work. How
do you incorporate that not affect the whole whole activities
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that you're doing.
Speaker 5 (45:17):
As a master, especially here in Orlando.
Speaker 4 (45:20):
I absolutely have to keep up on all twenty four
patterns that General Ja and team of two hundred Black
Belts created. I do need to keep up on those
and in between classes. Luckily, I'm fairly local Castlebury, Longwood, Aultamont,
Lake Mary, so I get around. Ryder Park is one
of my favorite places to go train and prayer time
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seven forty five every morning, and also my counseling with
Miss Gray.
Speaker 5 (45:46):
Absolutely I love that too, But I have to because people.
Speaker 4 (45:49):
Come here to Orlando to visit for one thing, but
on occasion they'll come just to visit me because I'm
a master and I know all twenty four patterns, so
I can help them when they are grating. And when
I was grading, there wasn't any female master. There wasn't
any female masters at all when I was grading doing
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the pattern that I needed to do for my test.
So my fiftieth birthday, my first time ever, I put
myself out there on YouTube, put myself out there on YouTube,
and I did the pattern that.
Speaker 5 (46:20):
I was looking for. Thank you, ma'am.
Speaker 4 (46:22):
I was so scared, but I did it, and I'm
glad I did. And my YouTube, by the way, is
Empower with Master G.
Speaker 5 (46:29):
So people want to go back all the way. They'll
see that first one out there. This is four years ago,
so now y'all know who I am.
Speaker 3 (46:36):
Yeah, well, we don't get age away. Just we're gonna
scratch that everybody, I forget it change.
Speaker 5 (46:42):
So you know, you just clicked like I could do.
Speaker 2 (46:45):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (46:46):
There's a great time once. We're having so much fun,
and I may see if I can. Maybe I'm gonna
go back and do some more finish up the end
of the month, so we don't have a speaker for
that night, so I may be able to convince her
to come and visit us again on that last Monday,
and we can you know, do some follow up and everything,
because I'm sure other folks will have questions. I've gotten
this to amputee coalition and all that, so I put
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it out there. If she's on, they need to hear you.
And thank goodness they made the move to invite you.
Speaker 2 (47:13):
When they did.
Speaker 5 (47:14):
What a blessing, What a blessing.
Speaker 3 (47:16):
Then well, I appreciate it coming on, I'll see you
in a few days, and audience, we'll see you next Monday,
same time, same station.
Speaker 2 (47:26):
Y'all be blessed and stay safe.
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Speaker 2 (01:18):
Amen, Amen, Amen, and men.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Good evening, good evening, good evening. Yeah, and we're here.
It's April. April is here, March is gone. May is
just around the corner. It's just around the corner. Literally,
summer is approaching. Summer is here.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Let's get it this list. Just face the facts, face
the facts. Anyway. Let's pray.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
First, Lord, we just thank you when we praise you,
we give you glory, for you alone are worthy to
be praised. We thank you for your love, your saving grace,
your mercy, your forgiveness, oh, your forget for forgetting our sins.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
We just thank you and.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
That you you course correct us every every single step
we take, even when we were about to veer off,
you gently yank us back and help us to stay focused. Lord,
we need you more than ever before. And we're gonna
say that every day until I take my last breath,
because you know we need you. We can't do it
without you. We're not going to do it without you.
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We love you so much. Now this is your podcast.
This is your one of many times to speak to
your people, and we thank you. We're gonna get behind
the cross. We're gonna wait with expectation and bait it breath.
We love you so much and we give you the praise.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Do what you do best.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Lord, set your captors free. In the name of Jesus,
we pray, and the church said amen and amen.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Amen. Hey y'all, how y'all's doings right? That's all? Okay, yeah, okay, okay,
Well we'll waiting. There she is, she is.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
This is our guest tonight, and I'm gonna stand up
a little bit so you can see I'm representing. There
you go representing. That was the last minute costume change.
I was wearing something else that God said no.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Put this on to represent both of you.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
So anyway, she's coming in as soon as we can
get her face on here and.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
All that good stuff. This is Uh Sahun.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
I call her sahoun, the Korean title for uh, your
instructor in taekwondo, but most folks know her as Master
G and Master G.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
I'm undo your.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Camera so we can see you, please, so they'll know
you're real. Okay, Well, I'm gonna talk a little bit
about her and just amazing. I met her at the
AMPT Coalition conference that was held.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Two years ago. Yes, can you see us? Can you wave?
She's getting there, She's getting there.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Anyway, I met her at the conference, and I think
I shared with you all at some point. I saw
the itinerary and they said, you know, self defense, and
I was like, well, that wasn't fair. My occupational therapist
came and I said that wasn't fair. They had her
at seven o'clock in the morning, and I'm.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Like, that's just for the conference people. That's staying here.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
I'm not driving nowhere at seven o'clock in Orlando, okay,
and expected to be there seven. So I was a
little upset with that, but I went on and it
chose my other courses and she my ot and I
met up after our second course, I think, and I said,
oh my god, they changed. I looked at the marquee
and they had changed, and they had placed the Taekwondo
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demonstration is self defense at eleven o'clock that morning. I
forgot about everything, and I said, I got to be there.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
I got to Now.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Some people almost ran me over with their little hover arounds.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
That's another story, yeah, but they were anxious to get there.
It was and say, can you hear me? Can you
hear you? Look frozen? Speak?
Speaker 3 (05:05):
It's gonna get crazy. It's okay, it's okay. Oh dear,
you're freezing up over there, but it's okay.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
We can let's see if we can hear you. Can
we hear you? Okay? Now, if you have to go
back out off and come on on your phone, that's fine.
We'll be here. But anyway, and it was awesome.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
She had us breaking boards, She had us breaking boards.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
She even taught how to take someone in.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Someone's knife from around your neck. It was really interesting
and I was just so excited to be there, and
I was like wow. And at the end, I took
her card, her business card, and I looked and she's here.
She's here in Longwood. She's around the corner almost, and
I'm like, oh my gosh, she's here. I'm thinking they
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flew her in from out of state, like these other
speakers and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
She's right here.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
And I'm gonna tell you about her. Her uh, her
nonprofit and the arts itself. It's a charity Empowered to
Save Souls and home of the world class taekwondo with
Master g And she's big on empowerment, community and transformation,
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coming together through the scientific principles of authentic taekwondo.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
And powerful self and powerful self defense.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
And she is That is definitely what you see when
you walk into the arena and there's other students that
are there are just remarkable and I know, like myself,
I'm sure they're like they never thought that they would
be able to do the arts at all at all.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
And here you walk into the arena with her. She
teach you.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
You bow in and she gets started, and you feel like, hey,
I can do this, he can do this.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
So who can you speak? Try talking? No, I don't
know what's wrong by on your phone.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Okay, well she's gone, let me text her real quick
at tell her to trial on her phone. Okay, try
on your phone now as I And I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
I was just so excited that that.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
April is National Limb Loss and Limb Difference Awareness Month.
We've got the whole month and the color is orange.
The only real live advocate body that really embraces limb
loss limb difference.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Is the Amputee Coalition. They they are the only ones.
They're the main.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Ones that they are nonprofit as well. They include everybody,
all ages, if you have a limb loss or you
have a limit, if you experience a limb difference, a
lot of advocacy.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
They've allowed us to some of us to excuse me,
become lead advocates for our state. I've shared with y'all.
I accidentally did that, I mean to I.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Was involved in a community meeting online and they said, yeah,
I go to our website. So you go to the
website and they're like, oh, and if you click on
lead advocate, you know, and check that out. So they're
talking and you know, answering question. So I was just
you know, looking around the website like we do, and uh,
sure enough, took a quiz and uh, next thing I know,
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I got a certificate of being a lead advocate.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Now it's not that easy anymore. They beefed it up.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
A bit, but I was like, oh, I don't mean
to do that. There she is, she's moving and everything.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
Listen, okay, do not work.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Oh oh, you see how the devil is. You see
how the devil is.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
Nobody's stopping me.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Man, Okay, thank you, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
Guys.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Let's welcome, master g But I call her sahoon sah yeah.
Say so. It's like, yeah, let's get her around to
the far banks. I represent it.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
I thought you'd have your on yourself, but that's okay.
God changed me at the last minute, so it's all good.
But I gave them a brief idea and now I'm
gonna go mute, and I'm gonna let you do some
talking here. But if you could tell us what's on
your heart, but also include your seventh degree and what
that means to the world.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
And why taekwondo for our population. But you already know
where you need to go. So I'm gonna mute because,
like you know, I can out talk anybody.
Speaker 5 (09:40):
There you go, here we go, and I love your voice.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
Everyone can hear me. Okay, yes, yeah, back up just
a bit here. Thank you so much for having me.
I did watch a few of you not watch, but
I listened to a few of your shows. So it's
really nice to put a face with the name. So
thank you both for having me and Chaplin Gray, of course,
thank you for having me. Why taekwondo? This is just
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something that started when I was ten years old. My
mother had put us into a lot of different different things.
She was a single mom at the age of thirty
three because my father had fallen victim to gun violence
at the age of thirty six.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
So she kept us busy, kept us.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
Busy, my sister, I say us, my sister and I
kept busy. We did all kinds of different things, horseback riding, rollers, skating,
all these dance and then it was martial arts. And
after two years of martial arts, she said, okay, that's it.
You got to pick something because all this is too expensive.
Speaker 5 (10:40):
What are we going to do?
Speaker 4 (10:41):
And it was martial arts for me. From there forward,
I never stopped. I never turned back, I never strayed.
I stuck with the founder and creator, General Cha Hunghe.
Taekwondo turned seventy years old this year, just to March
twenty second. Taekwondo, yeah, seventy years. It's the most modern
form of martial art. I don't count something like a
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UCL for mixed martial arts, and these are not your
traditional you know there are mixed martial arts, So a
taekwondo it was for me. General Cha the founder signed
my first, second, third, and fourth degrees. Beyond that he
passed in two thousand and two, and then his predecessor,
the second highest rank in the whole world, Grandmaster of
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Hung Kwong Sung, still alive and kicking well. And I'll
see him on April sixteenth, in fact in Connecticut. Can't
wait to see him again. Give him a big old hug.
He has signed my fifth, sixth, and seventh degrees. The
seventh degree is quite important because a few reasons. In
our Taekwondo federation, many different taekwondos. Just like jeanes or
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cell phones. You have a smartphone, but then you have
an Android and an iPhone.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
When it comes to.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
Genes, you may have like a jordash And I'm going
to say, Sassoon, I'm dating myself here. Different types, different variation,
So we have taekwondo, but in multiple variations. There's a
lot of what you would call mik do jangs out there.
We're an authentic, original itf Taekwondo School. Our World Training
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Center is in Lake Mary, Florida. We do a lot
of great work there and we also partner with about
seven nonprofits, some of them are listed here on our
board doing those things here in central Florida. But the
Taekwondo in our federation, you don't become master until seventh degree.
The word in Korean is sahung and that is a
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seventh degree. So first, second, third degree are called novice.
For a black belt, fourth, fifth, sixth degree that's an instructor,
seventh and eighth degree that is a master, so a
master of my art and skill. And that took me
thirty eight years to attain. And that's about five more
years than it would or any other male doing the
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same thing that I'm doing. Absolutely so it took a
lot longer. My sister and I were also the very
first female black belts in that school back in nineteen
eighty five, and I still today where my black belt
that was issued in nineteen eighty five. It used to
go around me twice. It used to have my maiden
name on it that has since ripped off in my hand,
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not on purpose, but it ripped off on a tie
one day, and I let it go because I'm not
that person anymore. And today Master g that's my title,
and one of three female masters in our federation, the
Unified International Taekwondo Federation, under Grandmaster of Huang Kwang Song.
And yeah, he's so beautiful. The man changed so many lives.
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His global initiatives span one hundred and sixty two countries.
I mean, just incredible. One of three females. I'm going
to have the opportunity and privilege to meet my counterpart
in Australia this weekend. In fact, it'll be in Connecticut. No,
not in Connecticut, Union City, New Jersey. I'll be meeting
Master I and d Smith. And she's one of those
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three now on the whole. After General Cha the founder passed,
a lot of people kind of came creeping out of
the woodwork and creating their own itf federation. You know
this happens when a leader falls and people felt privileged,
I guess to create their own one being his son,
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General Chase Son. That's one organization and there's about three
to four other organizations out there. Amongst all the organization,
I'm only one of twelve female masters.
Speaker 5 (14:45):
And that just blows my mind. Right, we just ladies.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
We have kids, we have careers, we have husbands, and
we take care of so much. So most of the
women do drop out. They drop out. One student in particular,
she's a snowbird here in Florida, seventy one years old,
and she dropped out for twenty whole years and then
came back and now she's a fifth degree Tudous to her.
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I don't know that she'll still be, you know, doing more,
but seventy one years old, fifth degree is pretty impressive.
Speaker 5 (15:15):
So that is why taekwondo.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
Taekwondo has given me everything, a platform from which to
stand on. It's given me strength, empowerment, it's given me
the ability to empower In only the last four years,
seventy five hundred individuals with these programs. And that is
I say the last four years because that's the only
time it's been a nonprofit. I ran a school for
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twenty five years before converting it into a profit. Turning
it into the nonprofit changed my world, changed my world
and impacted all of these people, including miss Gray so
thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Well, I tell you, and I've told my co host
and our audience forever that when it comes to martial arts,
I was in see Goldjaru, which is hard karate and
a whole different habit everything. And I used to pick
at folks, the competitors that did taekwondo because to.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Me, they were hands and feet. And I know, and
it was a lady.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
We were at a competition back in my hometown and
this lady, I kept saying to my colleague, they're nothing
but hands and feet. There's nothing but and this lady said,
all martial arts, ha hand if he does, said, no,
they are hands and feet. And when he saw what
I was doing, he went on and he kept getting
his points and he won the start. And this is
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the second time in my whole life that God has said, Okay,
now you've been picking at these folks for a long time.
Ain't nobody else thinking about limb lost folk or limb
difference folk or people who transport differently.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
And then you come to the conference a conference.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
My first time going, I was very nervous because I
I've become a part of this population of amputeeism, and
you know, I'll get all the stairs and everything else.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
But on my vision I have not because you asked
not vision board.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
I do have on there to get a black belt
and that at the time in tai chi, and you know,
because tai chi is so pretty, but you can it's
a movement, it's an art, and so it's.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Still on there. And trust me, I did not know how.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
God was going to open any door for that, because
not only with tai chi, you mainly have to go
out of the country almost to get a black belt
in that. And so net Loan is somebody here doing that.
And then I went, I saw your description of your
workshop and I said, and I told Christina, I said,
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look now it got self defense with martial arts for us.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
And it's at seven o'clock in the morning, you know,
And was like, what are they doing? That's one of
those other folk and stuff.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
And if you don't mind sharing caring, how did the
amputee coalition find you?
Speaker 2 (18:03):
I'm going to show you what what miracles look like.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
This is absolutely another miracle in motion. So I was awarded.
It took me about six months to apply for and
be awarded the Google ad Grant for my nonprofit didn't
know what I was doing, doing the best I can.
Speaker 5 (18:21):
I'm a little techye, but not overly techie.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
But I did everything I could to try to use
the ten thousand dollars a month of Google ad grant
dollars to get the mission out there to Central Florida,
Central Florida. I cut it out about a twenty five
mile radius because I didn't know what I was doing.
You know, I figured my workshops all take place here
in Central Florida, so let me go ahead and do
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that twenty five months. I figured it was going to
be better for me. So one day I'm shopping in
home depot for my flowers. I love to garden. It
gives me peace, and I pick up the phone. Some
the beautiful lady says to me, can you talk about
self defense for an hour? Of course, yes, ma'am. How
can I help? And she says, well, we're calling out
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of Washington, DC, and we found you, and we think
you're the perfect person to come on in and introduce
inclusive martial arts to the limb loss and limb difference community.
And I had never worked with anybody with limb loss
or limb difference before. I had seen some videos online
some people doing the work. Incredible people with a loss
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of one leg places where they don't have prosthetics, so hopping, jumping,
skipping everything, fighting, breaking boards, all on one leg. These
folks are featured on my tube channel and just amazing. So,
you know, I show up, they tell me seven in
the morning, and I complained a little bit, but it
was such a blessing.
Speaker 5 (19:47):
I didn't want to complain.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
I just said, this is the earliest I've ever done
a class, even summer camp back with Grandmaster Huang. We
did not start until eight am. And that was year
after year after year in the hot sun doing what
we did, and we didn't start until eight am. But
at seven am and there we were, and miss Gray,
you shared your story with me in class one. You
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saw the description, you had a difficult time getting there,
You got there, you were seated in that audience. There
was about one hundred people seated in that audience. That
YouTube is also on and in fact, you may even
seen Miss Gray break in a board. Something about her
stood out to me. She wasn't even in a center aisle.
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She we just made eye contact, and I'm like, yeah, okay,
I'm gonna go I'm gonna go walk over to her,
and I did to show. The first technique that I
teach everybody is your palm heel. This is something that
any self defense class they're going to tell you about.
The palm heel. This is your own human weapon. So
let me go ahead and debunk right there about taekwondo
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being all about the hands beat only. I'm gonna go
ahead and quote Grandmaster Miguel Reyes, our current president, and
he said it so beautifully. He says, Taekwondo is not
just about hands and feet. Taekwondo is a philosophy, a history,
it's a meditation, it's a pathway to human perfection, and
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it's also a pathway to world championships. There's so much
more to it than just hands and feet. There's a
whole mind body connection, the movement that we do, and
all of these things that we do. So it is
definitely way more well rounded than just the hands and
the feet, including starting with your breath, starting with our breath.
So getting back to the palm, he'll strike, this is
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something that we develop our whole life.
Speaker 5 (21:38):
Think about it.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
Every time you push something, you're using it, every time
you fall on something, you're using it. This is your
weapon that nobody can take away from you. So and
to prove that this is a strong weapon that you
never ever have to practice using or develop. Like the
knuckles you have to develop punch, but the palm he'll know.
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And even at a time, I did not know of
miss Gray's finger loss, I didn't know that. I see
the amputee arm on one side. You know, in a
conference where there's a thousand people with limb laws, you know, Okay,
I walk over to her. She looks at me with
this look. You can see it, I think in the
video as well. Oh no, she's not picking me? Does
she pick me? I walked right over to her, and yes, ma'am,
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here's the board you try and boom there she did
for a shot, I believe, maybe second because you were nervous,
but got right through that board. And just the incredible,
Like is why I wear a body cam in my classes,
because I get so much of the shock factor. The
people who do these and execute these techniques had no
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idea that they were capable of doing such a thing.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Now.
Speaker 5 (22:46):
The following that was Orlando.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
The following year, in Atlanta, Georgia, there was an eighty
one year old man in a scooter, double amputee on
the legs and he said to me after the class,
he said, I had no idea I could do such things.
Speaker 5 (23:01):
You changed my life.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
And I just brought tears to my eyes because it's
another miracle emotion. I've had nonverbal speak after three years
of being in my class. I've had a blind person
who fell in love with breaking boards. He loves to
break boards. Cerebral palsy students breaking boards getting up out
of their chair to get on the podium for the
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winner's podium for their metal for competition, just amazing things.
Amazing an amputee, I share one story if I may,
Is it okay? You have another question?
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (23:36):
An MPTU came to me. She did martial arts like
you miss Gray before before her incident, and she was
about to lose the second leg. And she told me
that she shared with me in about two weeks time,
she was going to lose her second leg and she
went ahead and broke the board on her right side,
no problem. I asked her to do her left side
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and she says, I'm really not comfortable with that. And
I looked her square in the eye, because this is
after I already had the experience of teaching all of
those people in Orlando. I looked her straight in the
eye and I said, ma'am, you're about to lose another limb.
I think it's important now that you start using your
left hand. So we started like hesitantly. We started with
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the yellow board, that's the small board, and we started
with the blueboard, and then we did the red board.
She worked her way up to the blackboard, and she
was in tears. I was in tears because she got
through that blackboard and the way that we both kind
of saw it, she walked out there with another limb,
the one she wasn't using, the one she wasn't going
to lose. And that was just a beautiful thing to.
Speaker 5 (24:38):
Go on and on with story. Do you want more story?
I got one more story?
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Good one. Okay, well, I want to add this part.
Speaker 6 (24:44):
Now.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
You couldn't miss me because I had on a lime
green shirt T shirt. You couldn't. I just got to
say that that's the picture we got that she took
up all of us the lime green I told my
can you pick me out wales? Well though, okay, next story.
Speaker 4 (24:59):
Oh yeah, there was a woman who had just gotten
new prosthetics, and she was very wobbly, very wobbly, walking wobbly.
And here we are with doubly a few tees and
they're kicking, front kick, they're hitting targets, they're doing stuff.
Even a young boy. I'll never forget this boy. That's
a whole nother story. But his name was Henry, and
he said to me, you got to trust the process
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when I asked him a question, and boy, that's.
Speaker 5 (25:23):
Stuck with me. So I wanted to just throw that
in there.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
But this woman was walking and walking and trying to
get her balance, and then I taught her the power
of the breath, that when you walk and you breathe
at the same time, keep your corese center, your belly
button being your center, keep it all center. Keep your
arms in so that you're not flailing some pounds, well
you know, fifteen pounds go in the opposite direction, fall
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into the floor.
Speaker 5 (25:47):
A ten pound arm.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
Who knows right whatever, But taught her that, and literally
fifteen minutes later, she had our arms up in a
nice parallel block, hands covering her head, picking up her
prosthetic leg and front kick front kick, front kick with
the breath.
Speaker 5 (26:03):
The transformation.
Speaker 4 (26:05):
Transformation on that video in the YouTube is so like
jaw dropping because you see her wobbling. In fact, I
use the words I think. I said, ooh, you need
a spotter, you know, because that's very friendly with people.
Right over held her hand another ampiutea woman was holding
her hand, and we got through that together, and fifteen
minutes later, there she was.
Speaker 5 (26:26):
She was off.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
And in fact, our lesson was supposed to close at
three o'clock and we stayed until five twenty insecurity came out.
Speaker 5 (26:33):
Yeah, that's how much work we were doing. We did
good work.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
Yeah, time flies, time flies. Even in that workshop, time
was flying. And she handled the crowd really well because
there were some people who just wanted to, you know,
just grab some attention and all this, and I don't know,
and it doesn't it never, you never, it never goes
without saying. If you're in a crowd of people, you've
got several types of audience folk.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
And they were there.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
They were there even though they were on their scooters
and things like that, and they wanted the attention and all.
But she handled the class really well. Okay, it was
your turn, now it's your turn. But so can you
talk about now you've got a wide variety now including
me because I think I'm your first limb loss. Yes, ma'am,
possibly limb loss. But you've got such a variety of
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students here locally and your presence on social media because
you have a whole set of students like all around online.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Can you talk a little bit more about that? And again,
you know, I don't think you know. I'll say that
the last and then guys, you got coming with your questions.
Speaker 6 (27:42):
I know y'all have some.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Don't be playing like y'all don't.
Speaker 6 (27:46):
So.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
The World Class Team World Class Taekwondo. This began in
nineteen ninety seven, and it began as Eastern Taekwondo because
it was in Connecticut's Eastern Then when I transferred here
in twenty tens, changed it to World Class Taekwondo. I
just be a little bit different, rebranded, and here we
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are and in the World Class Team. Their age is
three to seventy one in the same class white belts
through black belts in the same class.
Speaker 5 (28:16):
It's how I went through the ranks. And because I.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
Don't need to use tactics like a mcdojang where they
put all white belts in one class, all yellow in class,
all green in one class, or maybe just an intermediate
class and an advanced class. We are all together because
the black belts should never forget where they came from,
and the white belts and the earlier belt should always
know what they have to.
Speaker 5 (28:37):
Look forward to.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
And everybody helps everybody, and then we become a teaching school,
so our black belts are always learning and our red
belts as well are learning to teach. And then that
expands to the nonprofits the outreach that we do. So
I have multiple students who go out and help teach,
and I meet about four hundred people a week, more
than half present with disabilities. That's where we're at today.
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The online program, Miracles in Motion, is to reach people
that perhaps have body shame, they don't want to go
to a gym. Perhaps they've been dissed before, disrespected from
another instructor, which does happen in our community, and it's
all about discipline respect. Unfortunately, there will be instructors out
there that take advantage and wear people down, and then
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that black belt drops and the student may never pick
it up again.
Speaker 5 (29:26):
So I also wish to reach them because I want them,
open your home, open your heart.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
Let's teach people. We can do this anywhere, we can
do this in the whole world. And basically I can
present myself to be the Missus Rogers of Taekwondo online
teaching people. But we need those bodies out there, people
to help help go out there and teach. And we
do look for sponsors for that program as well as
a sponsor on the Miracles in Motion program that reaches worldwide.
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Three hundred dollars for your logo and one hundred dollars
for a motivational quote. It is a click through And
I like when people say official official seamstress of Master
g or a world class team, you know, official driver
of the world class team. We like to do so
that's an option to support the online mission. So those
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with the body shame those who can't get a ride.
Speaker 5 (30:19):
There are so many of my.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
Four hundred students weekly, I would say about a dozen
of them who just really love the camaraderie. They just
love the attention, They love the camaraderie.
Speaker 5 (30:29):
So can I FaceTime you? Can I call you?
Speaker 4 (30:32):
Now?
Speaker 5 (30:32):
Can I call you?
Speaker 4 (30:33):
And by the way, I am a part time two
and a half day a week but a little bit
more right now, accountant, and.
Speaker 5 (30:39):
It's tax season, y'all.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
So two and a half days a week, I could
profit in the other two accountant. So when they try
to reach out and talk to me, it's a difficult time.
But I like to have them online as well, because
some don't have rides. They don't have rides. We have
a beautiful program down here. Access Links is a great
program for people to get to the locations.
Speaker 5 (31:01):
That they need to get to, just police students.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
But sometimes it's just you know, people can't go as seniors,
maybe they don't drive anymore, they can't get to the gym.
Just reaching all different walks of life. People to just
get online, move and the body moves, the brain grooves
something I like to say, it's cheesy, but it's real.
Speaker 5 (31:22):
It's real. Got to keep moving when I.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
Meet I said, the respect that we get even before
I got my top, just to walk with her into.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
The why just everybody's friendly.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
Everybody's like wow, they're as already checking you out, like oh,
and then they look at her and I mean I
saw the looks and they were like wow.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
And it's just it's just it's amazing and it's just.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
A you know, I just love the Lord so much
because he knows what we need and he will make
sure that if this is something you need to be
a part of, you're.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Going to be a part of. And I'm going to
prof this is what you want, I know your heart.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
And I take one on one private lessons for right now,
because first I know I'll be a slight distraction if
I walk into No No, No on a serious note,
because everybody's like ooh, and I'm like okay, because the
people that when I MC the program and they came
over to the table, they had to come over to
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the table and they were like, what happened to us?
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Oh Lord, I can't even m see a program?
Speaker 6 (32:27):
You know?
Speaker 3 (32:27):
But anyway, I dis liked that because I'm still feeling
my way. I'm still trying to get my Stamini and
everything up under me. But you don't know how much
this really And my foot surgeon and all my OT
team and my PT team, they're.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Just like almost, great, Okay, what is it that you
can't do?
Speaker 4 (32:47):
You know?
Speaker 2 (32:48):
I say, well, it found me, you know, but it's
on my vision board. Y'all need a vision board so
that you can have things direct you. But guys, you
have any questions for it nowhere members out there. I
know y'all keep it silent because you really are probably
totally shocked at this. Oh you go.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
Would you say anyone could do the sec There you go, missy,
thank you. Would you say that anyone could do this activity?
You can be very Oh mickey.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
I wanted to make sure anybody could do this. Say
who That was a question that came from the audience.
Anybody do this?
Speaker 4 (33:17):
Anybody can do this. It is just my personal preference
to not accept those that are not. That's why you
know what three you know? And I've had students up
to eighty three and the tallest student is seven feet
and the smallest is like two and a half feet,
So a why variety of students? The reason, shall I say,
(33:41):
the reason anybody can do this is builty science. This
is all built on science. What I teach out there
is the if theory of power. Theory of power. We
start with our breath control. Anytime you blow out t's
and s's, you're going to be stronger. That's where it starts.
Our breath control, our mass, our speed, our equilibrium, our
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reaction force, and our concentration, and those are all the
things that Miss Gray is learning. So she learned she
doesn't have to just step with her muscles. She can
use the floor to propel her forward. This is what
all of our students that we move the way that
we move our body. It just a car has a propellant,
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an airplane has a propellant. We also have a propellant.
Speaker 5 (34:29):
It's the floor. Let the floor push you. So you
just spring off.
Speaker 4 (34:34):
People in sports, other sports like baseball or basketball, they're
going to understand the spring. You know, people who do skateboarding, snowboarding,
I've done all these things. You understand the power of
hang time and weight distribution when you go flying off
a you know, a ramp and you got that little
bit of hang time. Like, all of these things are
part of what we do. Concentration. The best way to
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explain it. A common garden hose you spray, that hose
comes out a certain power. You put a little cover
on that with your thumb, you start to make that
whole a little smaller, and now the water comes out
a lot faster. That's the equivalent of punching with maybe
a whole fist two knuckles.
Speaker 5 (35:16):
We want to go with just the two.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
Knuckles, the whole slap hand, or just the palm. He'll
concentrate and where you strike also matters. So there's so
much to the science of this, and I debunk a
lot of things that I see online, a lot of
self defense escapism, a lot of things that require physical
strength and power. It doesn't need to be like that.
(35:37):
You want to learn how to beat people up or
flip people, you can come to our world class team training.
But in our workshops, we teach escapism through science, just science.
I always grab the biggest person in the room first,
grab my arm. Here we go, and I just stand
there and I just stand there and I just pull
it right out.
Speaker 5 (35:55):
And they're like, what did you do?
Speaker 2 (35:57):
What did you do? Science?
Speaker 4 (35:59):
Science Our breath control, our concentration, reaction force, speed, something
we work on, and yeah, pull it it all together.
So there's such a science behind this.
Speaker 5 (36:09):
Anybody can do it. And I do have three year
olds that understand. They understand the arc hand.
Speaker 4 (36:15):
On the back of a neck, what that does to
someone trying to pick them up, pick up their legs,
pick them up and put them over their shoulder.
Speaker 5 (36:22):
That's all they got to do.
Speaker 4 (36:23):
Redirect you're redirecting. You're not picking somebody else up and
throwing them. You're just redirecting somebody else's body weight.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
It's amazing.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
One of our audience members asked if the members students
can learn from each other, and have you seen that?
Speaker 2 (36:39):
Now?
Speaker 3 (36:39):
All right, now, y'all start asking questions. Now, don't let
me you know, we'll run this thing.
Speaker 5 (36:43):
We all learned.
Speaker 4 (36:44):
How much have I learned from you, miss Gray? How
much I have learned from you? I mean that is
a number one. But like you said, my students are
so different, so different. For the first time, I had
a cerebral palsy student break a heavy board with something
called a bow wrist. Now a bow wrist, I show
you here, but as if you were to try to
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take your index finger and touch the inner of your
elbow as hard as you can, you're going to create.
Speaker 5 (37:13):
That bow wrist.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
And he pulled it right on up and popped right
through the board using breadth, hung right through it and
broke that board. It took us time to get to
the heavy board. We only do board breaking the last
week of every month, so it took three sessions. So
that was three months, but it was only three classes
that he did it.
Speaker 5 (37:33):
He did that.
Speaker 4 (37:33):
We were so proud. I learned so much from everybody.
One student said to me.
Speaker 5 (37:39):
They say, master G. I know he likes to call
me sahian Gi. He says, Master G. When I walk
and breathe at the same time, I don't fall over.
Anybody can learn.
Speaker 4 (37:48):
I didn't know that it was that powerful until a
student brought it to my At another student doing just
a simple drill, taking a ball like a beach ball,
raising it up over the head and handing it to
another student behind him, I said, I didn't know you
could raise your arms like that. He said, neither did I.
Speaker 5 (38:06):
I mean, boy, that is something in all the movement.
Speaker 4 (38:11):
There's so many small discoveries that just would never have known,
and we.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
Don't realize how much we hold ourselves back, absolutely because
of fear, because I can't believe I'm doing this.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
And I know when we first met, I asked, can
we meet so you can assess me?
Speaker 3 (38:29):
Because she had I mean, it's different, you know, like
she said, she didn't know all of my you know,
missing parts.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
And you know, and I met her and she's at
this park and she walks barefoot.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
Literally, she shorted me, and I'm like, you know, you
ain't looked this way at the place, but you know,
and I kept saying, I just need you to assess
and if you could deal with a person like myself,
And I did tell her there will be times I
may push back, I may be getting that stubborn and like, okay,
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I just thought I can't do this today.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
I can't do this today. And she walks right along
with me.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
And you think we've known each other for years. If
you came to see a session, you would think that
we haven't. You know, it's just been a few months.
But she's got that god given gift, that talent of
reading people. She starts where we at and she you
tell her the history I've told about my history from
years ago of that, but she's like, yeah, probably.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
And she saw me. I got ready to step and.
Speaker 3 (39:32):
In nisig Jeru, you circle, you do a c as
you stepped, she said, no, no, no, you don't need
to do the sea.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
She caught me right there and she said let's stop
right there. And I was like, whoa. And I didn't
even remember it's been over thirty years since I've done this.
Speaker 3 (39:45):
But your body reacts, you know, and then she said okay,
and I went to do a movie. She goes, no,
you don't have to do that because you're bouncing. You
don't need to bounce.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
I mean, she'll catch you and we stop it and
we go over it, and we go over it. So,
Pastor Miguel, you have a question.
Speaker 6 (40:00):
Well, I was going to say that as a former
fellow student back in when you got your first degree.
It's when I started martial arts back in eighty five,
but I stopped as an orange belt, and when I
moved from and I was studying in Texas, and when
(40:20):
I moved from Texas to Miami, I tried kung fu
and that didn't last too long because I was a
dad and that just interfered. The one thing that you
did say, and I have to agree with you that
one of the things that I learned while I was
studying the martial arts, it's that you're you're not doing
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all the work. You're using your your your attackers weight
against them, and you're using your You become the folkrum
and you're you're the one that's directing their energy against them,
and then that puts them on the ground. So that
was one thing I did learn and that was that
(41:05):
was ah. And then the other thing you touched on
was I was a picture. I was crying out for
the Texas Rangers as a picture. So yeah, yeah, yeah,
all the all the all the secrets are coming out
and that's great. Yeah. So so yeah, and you're absolutely right.
People don't understand that when you're that your your breathing
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technique is what gives you that lbstra energy that you're
looking for to follow through. And that's and that was
the that was one of the things that they taught us,
which is very important. People don't understand. And to the
point that you were bringing up of how people were
amazed of themselves, and I was kind of in I
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was kind of intrigued because I learned even the angels
during creation applauded God he was create the world because
they were amazed of what He's able to do. And
that's what people don't understand. We have the capabilities of
doing everything that we have been designed to do. But
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it's just the voice that you want to listen to,
because if you're listening to the wrong voice, you're going
to give your brain wrong information. When you're able to
just do it and understand and you said the key
word trust process because one of the things that people
don't remember he learned how to walk. How many times
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do you remember falling? You don't. All you know is
the final product and you're walking, so you don't remember
all of the mistakes you made while you were learning.
The end product is that you are walking. And that's
why your people don't understand. And my wife said it
was the other day. Your mind such a powerful source
(42:58):
and if you put the wrong information in it, putting
the wrong source in it, you're going to have the
wrong energy. Whereas when you when you're putting the right
things into it, then the way you respond, the way
you conduct yourself in the world is going to reflect
what you put in. So there's my martial arts, my
(43:22):
martial arts one oh one that I can give to you.
I can expound on there.
Speaker 4 (43:26):
Thank you so much, Pastor mcguel. Think it is one
thing about that science because you said baseball. My husband
has did baseball for over twenty years. And the best
correlation that I can give on that is in baseball,
when we throw a ball, we're going to use backward motion.
Backward motion first you start backward and then you move forward.
(43:49):
So in our art, the authentic Taekwondo, we always have
backward motion, with few exceptions, but we have backward motion.
So when we punch, it doesn't look like other martial arts.
It doesn't just come straight forward from your elbows forward motion.
Your range of motion comes from backward with a hip
and a shoulder attached, and your whole body becomes one.
(44:13):
And we bounced, and we don't bounce, We we draw,
we lower our weight, we raise our weight. We have
the backward motion already cocked and ready to go, and
we dropped down using gravity as our course and punch straightforward.
So I love the reference because pitching is exactly that.
You did the same thing. You dropped your weight, you
(44:33):
came up, and you dropped it again. He and I
had my husband and I had talked about that because
when you go and swing to hit that bat, you're
doing the same thing, you know, with that body weight,
the movement.
Speaker 5 (44:44):
Thank you for checks.
Speaker 2 (44:47):
We only got two more minutes, We only got okay,
the seventh degree.
Speaker 6 (44:53):
As a seventh degree, your schedule is absolutely booked. How
I bring that up because many people say, well, I
don't have time to read the Bible because I'm so
busy as a master, you still have to work. How
do you incorporate that not affect the whole whole activities
(45:17):
that you're doing.
Speaker 5 (45:17):
As a master, especially here in Orlando.
Speaker 4 (45:20):
I absolutely have to keep up on all twenty four
patterns that General Ja and team of two hundred Black
Belts created. I do need to keep up on those
and in between classes. Luckily, I'm fairly local Castlebury, Longwood, Aultamont,
Lake Mary, so I get around. Ryder Park is one
of my favorite places to go train and prayer time
(45:41):
seven forty five every morning, and also my counseling with
Miss Gray.
Speaker 5 (45:46):
Absolutely I love that too, But I have to because people.
Speaker 4 (45:49):
Come here to Orlando to visit for one thing, but
on occasion they'll come just to visit me because I'm
a master and I know all twenty four patterns, so
I can help them when they are grating. And when
I was grading, there wasn't any female master. There wasn't
any female masters at all when I was grading doing
(46:10):
the pattern that I needed to do for my test.
So my fiftieth birthday, my first time ever, I put
myself out there on YouTube, put myself out there on YouTube,
and I did the pattern that.
Speaker 5 (46:20):
I was looking for. Thank you, ma'am.
Speaker 4 (46:22):
I was so scared, but I did it, and I'm
glad I did. And my YouTube, by the way, is
Empower with Master G.
Speaker 5 (46:29):
So people want to go back all the way. They'll
see that first one out there. This is four years ago,
so now y'all know who I am.
Speaker 3 (46:36):
Yeah, well, we don't get age away. Just we're gonna
scratch that everybody, I forget it change.
Speaker 5 (46:42):
So you know, you just clicked like I could do.
Speaker 2 (46:45):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (46:46):
There's a great time once. We're having so much fun,
and I may see if I can. Maybe I'm gonna
go back and do some more finish up the end
of the month, so we don't have a speaker for
that night, so I may be able to convince her
to come and visit us again on that last Monday,
and we can you know, do some follow up and everything,
because I'm sure other folks will have questions. I've gotten
this to amputee coalition and all that, so I put
(47:08):
it out there. If she's on, they need to hear you.
And thank goodness they made the move to invite you.
Speaker 2 (47:13):
When they did.
Speaker 5 (47:14):
What a blessing, What a blessing.
Speaker 3 (47:16):
Then well, I appreciate it coming on, I'll see you
in a few days, and audience, we'll see you next Monday,
same time, same station.
Speaker 2 (47:26):
Y'all be blessed and stay safe.
Speaker 1 (47:28):
Night nice right
Speaker 4 (48:00):
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