Ep. 1- Sex Like A Man

In this episode the hosts, Kayla, Aliya Kai, Normz La Oaxaquena, and Dayna, are breaking down S1 E1 of Sex and the City. Can women have sex like a man, or sex without feeling in current times? How is it dating in a major city today? Are Carrie, Miranda, Charlotte, and Samantha still relatable? What didn't age well and what is social media saying? We break it all down on Sex in the City of Angels.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is Sex in the City of Angels podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Welcome to season one Sex in This City of angel Ya.
It's about period. In this show, we will be covering
Sex in This City season one, episode one to season sixth,

(00:27):
the final episode. We will then get into the two
movies and just like that. I'm Kayla, my name is Aliyah,
I'm Dana.

Speaker 3 (00:37):
I'm norm Sohai CanYa.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
And we are for single women in our thirties who
happen to love sex in the city. We love Carrie, Samantha, Charlotte,
and Miranda. Who's your favorite Carrie mangirl energy mane.

Speaker 4 (00:54):
Okay, I would agree.

Speaker 3 (00:56):
No, Samantha Jones period.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
I love Charlotte too. I actually love them all. I
actually don't have a favorite. I just know my least
favorite Miranda. But I love her too. I just she's
my least favorite. I don't know why.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
I mean, who's like, can anyone raise their hands of
Miranda's your favorite? I want to know.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
I have a new found respect and love for Miranda today.
You never liked her before. My best friend relates to Miranda.
So there are Miranda's lovers out there. We are not.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
Miranda like not.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
I just like that Miranda, Okay, and damn sure not.
Season one, episode one, and that's exactly where we're going
to start. Season one, episode one. Sex and the City
ran from nineteen ninety eight to two thousand and four.
Ninety four episodes would get this, ninety four episodes, ninety
six sex scenes getting it in, more sex than episodes.

(01:47):
They had sex with a total of ninety five people,
men and women, mostly men. One woman.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
Yeah, ninety five, oh Samantha, Yeah right.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
Definitely about ninety of those with Samantha. The show ran
from again nineteen ninety eighteen two thousand and four. The
movie came in two thousand and eight. Movie number two
came in twenty ten, and then and just like that
came in twenty twenty one. It is a timeless series
that's relatable to everybody, whether you are single, dating, married, divorced,

(02:18):
a mother, just have some really cool single adult girl friendships.
I don't know, having a baby, being cheated on, cheating
on somebody, just navigating adult friendships, bringing somebody else into
the bedroom or did they do that. They did do that.
They have three sons, so they at least tried to
have some three songs. So that's definitely true if you
had a three soome you crim relate. Honestly, I talked

(02:39):
to I talked to gen Z, I talked to millennials,
I talked to Jen Alfa, I talked to boomers. I
talked to gen X. Everybody knows and can relate to
Sex and the City. Even though honestly, the original season
ended twenty years ago, it is still topical today. It's
even a TikTok thing where everybody's like, oh, Sex and
the City, Sex and the City Curry sucks, Oh Samantha.

(03:00):
So it's still today, still so relevant, which is why
they have and just like that. So throughout this podcast,
we're gonna be rewatching all the seasons and we invite
you to rewatch with us as we break it down
see how it relates to dating today, because it is
still so relevant today. And that's probably my favorite thing
about Sex and the City that in the girl friendships,
it's timeless. So I watched it in high school, I

(03:20):
watched it in college, I watched it in my twenties.
Now I'm a single woman in my thirties, and it
just relates to me on a different level no matter
where I'm at in life, watching it there's always something
that can take away, and I just love that they're
fabulous women living in New York, loyal friendships, ladies who lunch, gossiping, sex. Yes,
not honestly, I would.

Speaker 4 (03:40):
Agree with the Leah for sure.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
Like I love the supportive you know friend group and Yah,
they literally tell each other everything, and it's just like,
even though there's a little judgment, but it's not really
judgment because you know, they're listening to each other, supporting
in whatever way they can.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
Even if there's a little judgment, there's always camaraderie, right.
You know, I watched this show first ever and for
the very first time in twenty twenty, and now that
I'm in my mid thirties, like, I really do cherish
and appreciate that, you know, that friendship that they've been
able to hold for so many years, and so you know,
it's nice. It's nice to really have friends who have

(04:22):
walked with you through different stages in life. You know,
like as we get older, sometimes we lose friendships. But
I love that they've been able to get like stick together, yeah,
grow with each other.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
Yeah, and then they grow together, and I love that
we can watch them grow because like from season one
to six, season six, they all like have become I
don't know, more mature. They have definitely mature. They've grown
into women, They've learned, they've gotten to know themselves so much.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
Sure yea yeah, Wait, did you feel like before you
watch season six, did you feel like they were ever
going to mature or like because it was just like
you're in it with them, You're like, what.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
You know, your series is different day now because you
watched in your thirties, but when you as a young girl,
as your as a teenager in your early twenties, like,
these girls are just living the life and they you
aspired to it. Yeah, I feel like when they all
were starting to settle down, you can kind of see
it like wrapping up, and I kind of even wasn't
wanting that to happen, honestly, we want to see that.

(05:18):
Did you think that they were like did you like
season six, did you wanted to wrap up in the
way Season six wrapped up? Or I don't know.

Speaker 3 (05:25):
I think who really grows up in that? You know?
Out of the four, I think it's Charlotte. Charlotte is
the one who really gets.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
Alright, let's not do that. Let's not do that. All
the girls growing grows up a lot. When Carrie too,
we can't get too much, carried her boundaries and dips
that out of the country.

Speaker 3 (05:45):
But then she got back to the same guy.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
Right, all right, all right, all right, strapping, strapping, strapping.
If we are going to start season one, episode one,
and then we will see how the girls grow in
season six and then the and just like that's which
we will get into because I got some opinions about that,
So make sure you stick with us rock with this podcast,
we are gonna be breaking it all down, and we

(06:09):
again are starting with season one, episode one. Sex in
This City Cool. Another one of my favorite things about
Sex and the City is how consistent it is. I
think that a lot of these shows the characters either
get more dumb over time, or you know, they just
they tear characters together that just would never choose each other,

(06:32):
Like sometimes they downright change the character, indeed wop them
right out, like we're not gonna know shout out to
Aviv from Fresh Prince of bel Air. But Sex and
the City was the most consistent series I think of
all time. The intro stayed the same, the main character
stayed the same. The main characters personality stayed the same
with the exception of growth, right, and even the intro

(06:56):
stayed the same. So it's Sex and the City Season one,
episode one. We start with the class intro, and in
my opinion, the classic intro gives classic carry. Shes fly
with her little white to not tattoo, her little white
tou tou and her little pink tank, and she's like
on the side of the bus strutting down the Manhattan street.
She's giving us fabulous carry, Bradshawn, it's just undeniable carry yep.

(07:18):
The bus is riding by, carries on the side of
the bus, and then the bus drives to a puddle
and splashes carry. So I feel like that's classic carry
to always get humble, like as fabulous as she was,
as much that girl as she was in New York,
she was just that regular girl getting slashed by a
puddle on the sidewalk. The Texans the city girl is
going to be humble now. Y'all going to be embarrassed now.

(07:38):
And that's what makes them more relatable too. It's like, yes,
we all of these lives where we have these embarrassing moments,
we have these things where it's like, oh, why did
that just happen to me? So relatable? I love it,
so classic intro. And then we meet a woman. She
moves to Manhattan for the American dream quote unquote. She
wants to find the rich man, fall in love, and

(07:58):
live happily ever after. And we think that she has
this dream. He moves her in. He's offering to meet
the parents. Well I don't know if he moved her in,
but he was. They was house hunting together. You're right,
you right, they was house hunting together. He didn't move
her in, but he was talking about meeting the parents
and that she was excited to do that. He straight
goes to her that like I haven't watched season one

(08:19):
when I go back and watch Seton City over the years,
so rewatching season one, episode one, I was like, wow,
like they really are showing us the dream like growing
up as little girls. That first scene I really did.
I forgot all about like when they totally like when
it got to the next sitting, Cary was like, oh,
she hasn't dated in New York. It was like, okay,
welcome back to reality. Like you just want to meet

(08:41):
that man with money who just like yeah, you, wifey,
Let's go look for houses, Let's hang out every day,
like meet my parents, let's talk about kids, like it
was just so ideal. And then she calls them and
calls them and calls them and calls and you have
reached the number of you have reached damn, forty two
years old, still playing those games. Do we see that
scenario play out? We go right into Carrie Bradshaw, who

(09:03):
is writing her column Sex in the City, and I
love that. Another consistency. She was a writer from season one,
episode one, the season six, the final episode, season series finale,
So just the consistency Chef's kiss. She says, it's the
riddle of the sphinx. Why are there so many great
unmarried women and so little great unmarried men? And I
think that our four girls represent that they are great

(09:26):
single unmarried women, even though I probably wouldn't date any
of them. Maybe Charlotte. I date Charlotte, Yeah, I date Charlotte. Yeah.
I think all the because Charlotte's wifey. Charlotte's wifey, Charlotte
gonna hold me down. She's crazy, like Carrie. She ain't
gonna dump me when I don't give her, like when
it's not about her anymore like Samantha. She ain't gonna
make me want to punch her like Miranda. So I

(09:46):
got your Charlotte. If I had the wife, one of them,
my wife Charlotte.

Speaker 3 (09:50):
But I feel like Samantha would be the fun the
more fun person to date.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
Yeah, Michell, dump you. But she don't want to love, eh,
I want love.

Speaker 4 (09:58):
She didn't want to love because she wasn't receiving love.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
So she decided to I guess girl friend. Because Charlotte,
I feel like she Yes, I agree. She's classy, She's
a beautiful woman. She knows what she wants. She has
high standards, but then at the same time she bends
her standards to conform to whatever I want.

Speaker 3 (10:20):
Charlotte is a little too uptight for me sometimes.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
You know, right, I chold Charlotte, y'all hate my book.

Speaker 3 (10:27):
Is a little too up time. I feel like Samantha, Carrie, Carrie, Carrie.
You know what, even if I have my own reservations
towards Carrie, Carrie seems like she goes with the flow
of things.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
Nah, Carrie is in her head. Carrie, is you left
your house and she all up under your bed, all
up in your phone all up closet, Carrie is I'm
going home.

Speaker 3 (10:52):
I'm giving her too much credit.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
Right now, you're talking about the first episode.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
I'm just saying, who with y'all wife? Because they're therefore
a single, great unmarried woman wife I mean, is completely differct.
That's why I Choe Charlotte, Charlotte, Charlotte, Okay, Charlotte. So
there you have it. We have three great unmarried women, kidding,

(11:19):
unmarried unmarried women, and no great unmarried men. I genuinely
do feel like that's still a problem in twenty twenty four,
especially in the city of Los Angeles, and it makes
a horn right, I don't know. I mean, the dating
pool has definitely become skimp. It's become harder. I don't
know if that's because the time social media, Yeah, online dating,
social media, instant gratifications, short attention. Stands like, something is

(11:42):
definitely messed up in the water. So we social media
messed it up so much. I feel like people feel
like we have endless options. We can just scroll and
our next love is just one one scroll away, one
Instagram follow away, you know, one like away from a
picture and there he goes. So it's like, oh, you
want to act funny me, you know, on Instagram and
go to the next buddy Duddy, But to be honest,

(12:03):
like options saying the options saying what they're looking like
today it's seem picking okay.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
Yeah, And if you're in LA and you're using these
dating apps, these like you know, local celebrities always pop up, so.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
Oh my god, you're always like comparing your relationship, Like
it almost feels like am I settling? Like when you
see what's out there, what people are doing, Like, if
you're not getting that, then I don't want it. And
then sometimes you have a really nice guy in Los Angeles,
but then you go to a dinner in bel Air
and then some ex basketball player or some actor ask
you for your number and you're like, let me block
the suber driver who just like you, speaking from personal experience,

(12:45):
don't be shouting me out. But anyway, right right, I mean,
there's always something else out there, Like there's always going
to be someone else out there, so and that's trying.
I think that's what the girls worked with in nineteen
ninety eight as well. Twenty twenty four hasn't changed that
much of what's been going on, But this is I know.

(13:08):
I said Sex and the City was the most consistent series,
and I still believe that, but this was a little
bit of an inconsistency. They had characters talking to the
camera and giving their perspective, and that only lasted, I believe,
for the first two seasons. By the third season that
was out of here. We went to the street after
we met Carry Bradshaw, and she asked the question why
there are so many great unmarried women and so little

(13:29):
great unmarried men. And then we kind of get the
consensus or the survey or how are how the streets feel?
How the streets feel? And these are some strangers that
we meet. Also some characters that we may see throughout
the episode, again which I didn't realize until I rewatched
for this, For this show here, I was like, oh,
Cabody duncan we know him? You strapping?

Speaker 3 (13:50):
All right?

Speaker 2 (13:50):
So we get to the streets, we meet Toxic Bachelor
number one. I want to know who's consistent, who's consensus
you agree with the most? So Toxic Bachelor number one
he believes.

Speaker 5 (14:02):
When you're a young guy in your twenties, women are
controlling their relationships.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
By the time you're an eligible man in your thirties.
Do you feel like you're being devoured Suddenly the guys
are holding all the chips.

Speaker 4 (14:15):
I like, call it the mid thirties power flip.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
The mid thirties power flip. Oh my god, Capodi Duck
and Guy number two. He believes it's all about sex
and biology.

Speaker 6 (14:25):
It's all about age and pen biology. I mean, you
want to get married just to have kids, right and
you don't want to do it with someone old in
thirty five because then you have kids right away, and
that's about it. I think these women should just forget
about marriage and have a good time.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
We meet Miranda and she gives Miranda, but she says,
I know, right, Why did I guess like me? That's random, Mirando,
I know.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
She says, there was a woman who was living for
the sexy, sexy time, not worried about the husband and
the kids, just trying to have a good time. She
was getting all the hot, sexy men, and then one
day she woke up she was forty one and there
were no more sexy bachelors available to her. Miranda said,
that's not a story that scares men, that's a story
that's a problem for women. I'm just thinking that people

(15:15):
look good at forty nowadays. I was actually just watching
a TikTok earlier day, Like people in their forties look
better than they did in their twenties. This than I age, well,
like sport looking good in their forties, like the nineties
forties was definitely different than twenty twenty something forties.

Speaker 3 (15:31):
Yeah, and then you know, I would want to know
more about this forty something year old sleeping around with
young men, Like what were her standards?

Speaker 2 (15:39):
We just have sexy guys. Why are you some of
these guys are young? Well, what do you think? Like Drea?
Drea just had a baby with a twenty something year
old basketball player.

Speaker 3 (15:46):
Right, Who the hell Isrea?

Speaker 2 (15:47):
You don't know. She's like a I don't know what
a video of Viccent. She was a best life. She
owns mints. What is the mince one? Yeah, she dated
a celebrity I think in the beginning, and now she's
on and got other opportunities. I don't know. I don't
know the girl, But long story short, she's in her
late thirties and just had a new baby with a
basketball player in his like twenties early twenties. So I
guess I say all that to say it's possible to

(16:10):
be in your forties, don't. Yeah, yeah, I think it's
possible to be in your forties and want to step
back and just have fun. Like guys have fun with
a young girl. Girls might want to have fun with
a young guy, all right, But what about the mid
thirties powerflip that toxic bachelor number one side?

Speaker 3 (16:23):
I think that's true. I feel like, if you know
I personally, like when I was in my twenties, it's complete,
completely different to how I am right now in my
mid thirties. I feel like as we grow and be
mature and we do healing and blah blah blah, Like
we definitely are more powerful in our mid thirties and

(16:43):
and you know, in our twenties.

Speaker 2 (16:45):
So you think the women is still powerful in her
thirties like okay, and more powerful than she was in
her thirties. Not that men are more powerful than women
than when they hit.

Speaker 3 (16:55):
Early speaking, but if you're talking about our clocks ticking,
that's a completely different point, right. But as someone who's
not worried about her clock ticking, I'm powerful as hell.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
Yeah, And you know, I think men have gotten more powerful,
like from their twenties to thirty. So I think that's
where the power flip comes in. I feel like men
are powerful if they can bring something to the table
because men have like, you know, homes, they have investments,
they have income, whatever, they look damn good. It's a
lot better, you know, yeah, than their theorties and they
did in their twenties. But I think there's still men

(17:32):
in their thirties who also might have multiple baby moms
and like you know, might be a little basic. So
I'm just talking about the undesirables. So I'm thinking it's
a power flip. If you got some power just because
you hit mid thirties, on mean, you automatically got the
power that far. You still got to be bringing something
to the table. So I was talking to my male
friend and he said that he does believe in the

(17:52):
mid thirties power flip. Granted, he's a man that makes
three hundred thousand dollars a year and lives a very
nice life, but he said that he doesn't feel like
he has more power because of his success and his
because of our biological clocks. Norm's point. He said that
he feels like he has more power because he understands
women now he knows how to communicate, he knows how

(18:13):
to like speak your language, and that's why you feel
like it's like, oh, he says that there's not a
lot of guys like him. Yeah, I played this game.
I got all the women wanting me. Yeah, I'm smiling
because I also did meet a man who who acknowledged
as well, like men in their thirties understand women more,
they care a little bit more. That's why the love
making it's a little better too, because it's like not

(18:34):
understand what a woman like wants. So I don't know
if that gives them more power, but yeah, I can
acknowledge that there's some progress made with that increased understanding.
If that makes sense, that that increased insight into what
a woman wants. Yeah, there's some power that comes with that.
I agree. We meet Charlotte next, and Charlotte says, well, Charlotte,
first of all, had shorter hair. First and last time

(18:56):
we've seen her with that hair, like grew with that.
I love bot. She was so cute. Who are a bother?
Her glasses and reading her little book where her arts.
She says, most men are threatened.

Speaker 4 (19:05):
By successful women.

Speaker 2 (19:06):
If you want to get these guys, you have to
keep your mouth shut and played by the rules. Afterwards,
we meet Skipper and he believes loves conquers all all
we need is space in Manhattan. We just don't have
enough space for that. I feel like, la, do we
have enough space? I don't even know what Skipper's talking about.
Guy number five, he says.

Speaker 3 (19:22):
The problem is expectations. That's older women don't want to
settle for what's available.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
So Charlotte says, be quiet. Skipper says, hey, man, there's
just enough space for room. Meance, and Guy number five
is like, settle, You're getting older. Shut the hell up.
How are we feeling?

Speaker 3 (19:39):
Fuck that dude, Fuck that dude, dude, the one who
said who we need to settle? Because he's like the
prime example of what we have out here and the
slim pickens we have out here and why we shouldn't settle.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
Right, Yeah, the older I get every point. Yeah, I'm
not gonna settle. But Charlotte's given us classic Charlotte though, right,
She and honest, She played the game throughout all six seasons.
Charlotte's not saying subtle. She said the best thing to
do is just keep your mouth shut and played by
the game until you get the ring. So she's like
playing the game to attract what she wants to track,
but that only she's taken anything that comes to her either. No,

(20:13):
for sure, I'm not. I'm just saying, in Charlotte's point,
not not even igno, Like, do we agree with it
in general? Yeah? Yeah, Unfortunately, I do think that men
might prefer a more submissive woman. I don't want to
use the word passive, but yeah, I think men want
to maybe take the lead or feel like they have

(20:34):
some level of power or in the relationship, some level
of protection in the relationship. So to a certain extent,
a woman has to kind of lean into that. I
want you to lead, I need you to protect me,
I want you to.

Speaker 3 (20:43):
Take care of me.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
So yeah, unfortunately, I do think there's some truths to that. Yeah. Yeah,
And I.

Speaker 3 (20:49):
Feel like people or women are still playing into this game.
But when are we gonna stop playing into this game?
You know, this is twenty twenty.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
Four, This is nineteen ninety eight, tru this is nineteen Now.

Speaker 3 (21:00):
We're in twenty twenty four. Are we still saying that
this is something that we have to play into.

Speaker 2 (21:06):
Yes, it's biology.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
Yeah, I think it depends what man you want to attract.
If you want to attract a leader, right, you have
to as much as you are independent. If you want
a leader and a provider and someone.

Speaker 5 (21:20):
To you know, take charge, you have to play a
little distress, a little damsel, pretend like you need help
help me, I need this jar open, like ma.

Speaker 3 (21:31):
I'm poor, and for me every now and then, Okay,
I get a twenty extent, right, Like you're not going
to show all of all of yourself in the on
the first state, right, but.

Speaker 1 (21:44):
It's also going to show you like he's not going
to show you, he's going to show you the best
version of himself.

Speaker 3 (21:50):
Like you're gonna be very modest, very demure in the
first but it may.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
I don't think it means you're gonna know that the
whole time. Yeah, I think it is. It's like in
the beginning when you're courting, like I'm you know, when
you're applying for a job, like you act a certain
way in your interview, You act a certain way until
you get comfortable at that work and self comes out.
I think that's exactly. I think that's what relationships are too.
So I think, like Dana said, like, if you want

(22:16):
to attract a certain type, you got to be a
certain way. But then once you become comfortable with each other,
you find your yin and yah yang, you find your balance.

Speaker 1 (22:23):
And I love Charlotte the fact that she never settled,
like yeah, she was she wanted marriage and she wanted
to be in a relationship. But compared to all the
other girls in the first episode, like yeah, they were
willing to take anything and whoever paid attention to them,
and Charlotte still, even though she had a type, she
still like stood her ground and she was like, no,
you know you wait.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
I genuinely love that. That's kind of the first thing
Charlotte said to us when we meet her, The best
thing you do is keep your mouth shut and play
by the rules. And then from season one to season six,
Charlotte genuinely did just that, right, I.

Speaker 3 (22:58):
Get that extent, but I feel like the key word
for me is like I will slowly show you myself.
But there's no way in how I'd be marrying you
or really getting serious with you without showing my true self.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
And I think it's and I don't think Charlotte's not
saying that, Like I don't think she's saying, don't ever
be yourself. Yeah, because in the next thing Charlotte does
say the older we get, the more picky we become.
Miranda says, when you reach your mid thirties, why settle.
And so Charlotte is being pretty picky about who she's choosing,
but she's going to play the game so she can
get that guy exactly where she wants him, like a

(23:34):
praying Mansis or a black widow kidding. I don't know what.
I can't wait for us to get into it though,
because Charlotte does it like check.

Speaker 3 (23:43):
One point I did want to make is like at
what point do we start playing into those games? Like
if we keep playing to the into the games, then
these games are going to continue. Like when do we
take our power back and we switch it up? And
there's no such thing as these games.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
And it is the power of biology. Pussy is power.
Relationship is a skill. It's from working with doctor Wendy
Vosh for three years. She says it like it's a game.
It's a skill. Play the game or single and you
don't have to look at like a game. Like that's
why I like to say biology like you say sperm

(24:20):
chases egg like you know, men are biologically built a
certain way, like when I read the book, act like
a lady, thinking like a man. A man wants to
protect you, a man wants to provide for you. A
man will put you on a pedestal and profess his
love for you if you carry yourself in the way
in his vision or he wants to do that for you.
That's just how he's biologically built. So you can come

(24:41):
and challenge and all that, and you might attract the
exception to that rule, but I think that's the rule, unfortunately,
and not for not In spoiler er, Charlotte was the
first one married.

Speaker 3 (24:51):
Whatever, whatever, whatever I mean all that, I'm not mad
at it. Maybe that's why I'm not dating.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
That I stuck at the game so I can't play
it either, Earli, Yeah, it's absolutely. It's hard. It's hard.
It's hard.

Speaker 3 (25:08):
That's work and it is it isship.

Speaker 1 (25:11):
Why not learn the game and then beat it because
it's always going to be hard. You do not want
to play the game at forty years old trying to
get into back into dating. Learn the game, understand and
it is what it is, master exactly.

Speaker 2 (25:26):
Guy number five says, because there's not one.

Speaker 6 (25:29):
Woman in New York who hasn't turned down ten wonderful
guys because they were too short, or too fat or
too cool.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
Yeah. Yeah, as a single woman, I definitely can turn
down a man for some you know, as much as
I want to get married and have a baby. What's
the shallowest reason you you turn somebody down for?

Speaker 6 (25:45):
Well?

Speaker 2 (25:45):
I know, like there was one time the guy was
wearing like the same jeans every time I saw it.
Not in the same jeans. It's like maybe even like
khaki pans or something. But I don't know, like I
could get turned off by the most minute thing, you know,
and just like not the same jeans. I get a
feeling in my No, was like them doing smell like
your ass, thinking him, let's wash them, let's wash them.
I feel that one I've dumbed the guy from making

(26:06):
too many corny jokes. I feel like life it's too short.
I'm not about to take laughing at your jokes forever.

Speaker 3 (26:10):
Okay, can you share one of it was like.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
What's the difference between a hippo and a zippos?

Speaker 3 (26:17):
One's really heavy, the other is just a little light.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
That was a text message I responded by blocking them
because is your messaging me that dumb ship for? Wait?

Speaker 4 (26:32):
What what that one guy that like was misspelling and
texting you?

Speaker 2 (26:36):
Oh my god, I actually dumped the guy. First of all,
this wasn't This wasn't a stupid reason he didn't tip
the white kiss And when he ordered, he said, can
I have this Salomon? Did you just put out some
motherfucking Ellen salmon last day? Last day? Yeah? I was done.
At the same time, I should have been more shallow
and entertained guys, you know, like there shallow all the time.

(26:58):
I don't know why we feel bad for somebody.

Speaker 1 (27:05):
I would say, okay, so he was a short king.
But honestly, like I realized, like I was thinking about
it recently that I have You know, I've dated short guys,
but I already knew them, so it was different.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
But when you're really like meeting them for the first time,
when they say they're six ft on the dating meeting
them like five six immediately not too much attitude. You
know me short, And I tell you one thing, when
you give them a try, I dated a short king.
You my feelings like that ship stop playing.

Speaker 3 (27:41):
You know, I've always I've encountered way too many times,
those men who say they're six feet but they're really
five ten. Yeah, I still gave them a chance.

Speaker 2 (27:51):
So whatever. As a short queen, I can't relate to
this one.

Speaker 3 (27:54):
Okay aaliyah Elia, but I have I mean, I still
went on a second date with this full but the
I couldn't get over the voice. He sounded way too
much like hercle. So that was a note for me.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
Oh my god, that's so funny. I just had lunch
with my friend the other day. I was telling her
about a guy I was dating how I hated his voice,
and she was like, oh, and I showed her his picture.
She's like, he's on hinge. I played his voice note
and that's why I rejected him. So voices are definitely
a thing. But Miranda, we meet her again, and I
will say Miranda in this first episode hard asked as fudge, like,

(28:29):
I don't know if Miranda remained this hard throughout the
entire show, right, Like now, I feel like they definitely
like typecast her at herst she's supposed to share. Nothing
makes me happy. No man can do anything right? Did this?
Did that? Don't want you? Like she don't know what
she wants?

Speaker 3 (28:43):
Nothing about her isy, likeable, her hair, her outfits, nothing,
you know what.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
I literally out have a penis. But she made me
so soft the whole episode.

Speaker 3 (28:53):
Yeah, No, I'm I like I said, I wanna, I
want to love Miranda, but there it's just there's so
many things about her, her personality, her style. They really
didn't get it together with her until like season six.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
I did agree with her on this point though. She's like,
she gave them a chance, the short ones, the ugly ones,
the poor ones, and she says they're just as self
centered and unappreciative as the Tuslinder and Richard. Yes, I
don't know about that. Them be the ones that love

(29:28):
you up, love you down, send you massages, get you cash.
They got cash. I don't know about that one. Yeah,
they got all right, all right.

Speaker 3 (29:38):
Yeah, personally speaking, whenever you go against your standards, they
screw you over.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
Then, girls, we get carried away. We meet our four
women and they are doing what we love most, sitting
around lunching and shooting the ships. And this episode they
are talking about sex like a man. Look, if you're
a successful saleswoman in this city, you have two choices

(30:05):
you can bang your head against.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
The wall and try and find.

Speaker 2 (30:07):
A relationship where you can say screw it, just.

Speaker 4 (30:09):
Go out and have sex like a man. You mean
with dildo's No, I mean without feeling.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
That was our fabulous Sammy Joe, our first time meeting
her aka Samantha Jones. Always will have a warm space
in my heart for her. But yeah, she says, if
you're successful, you could bang your head against the wall
trying to get a good relationship or just have sex
like a man. Do you guys think that that's something
you can do? And no, no, no, Now she doesn't mean
without dildo. I mean with dildo, She doesn't mean with

(30:39):
hell those she means without feeling. Yeah, I'm not wired
like that.

Speaker 3 (30:46):
I love. Yeah, it happened in my twenties. Yeah, back
when I was just fucking around. Literally is it was
it worth it?

Speaker 2 (30:54):
No?

Speaker 3 (30:55):
Do I regret it? No? Again, you learn from your
from experiences, right, But I think people can have sex
without feelings.

Speaker 2 (31:05):
I mean happened, but it's like with somebody who you
just like whatever. But when you have feelings or you
you want that out of life, you're you're it's I
I can't move like that. I fall in love even
if I didn't like you at first. You do it enough,
I'm going to have a cocktail of war wounds in
my head and I'm.

Speaker 3 (31:21):
Gonna held eventually.

Speaker 4 (31:22):
I think you.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
I think if you want a relationship, that's not the
way to do it. You do it that way, hoping
that it's gonna something's gonna come from it. You're gonna
be very You're gonna you're just in for something.

Speaker 3 (31:34):
I agree with Danny Joe.

Speaker 2 (31:36):
She recalls when she had sex like a man and
she felt nothing. She's like, I got mine, I left,
it was like he never existed. Charlet's like, girl, is
it because he didn't call you? It sounds like no,
it's because we have just as much money and power
as men nowadays. Do you think that Samantha's like planning
cool girl or do you think that she believes what

(31:58):
she said or is she trying to convince herself? I mean,
watching it back when I rewatched Sex in the City, historically,
I never go back to season one, so rewatching season
one at this point, I never, like, I consider Samantha
a powerhouse, a confident woman, But I'm seeing so much
of a need for validation in these first couple of episodes.
I feel like Charlotte saying that one line is probably
exactly why Samantha leaned into that mindset. I'm acting like

(32:21):
because I'm seeing someone in these first episodes that needs
a lot of validation, that isn't really as secure if
she's coming off. I feel like she's more so planning role.
So I got to see when I evolved throughout rewatching
this to see Samantha as that confident person that I
knew her to be. But I'm not buying into what
Samantha saying based on what I've seen so far.

Speaker 4 (32:38):
I think she's trying to convince herself she can do
it at least.

Speaker 2 (32:42):
An episode one for sure. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (32:44):
Oh and I only see it in episode one actually,
because I mean to an extent, I mean, the rest
of the show shows.

Speaker 2 (32:50):
You, girl. We will get into the episode because two okay,
make sure you rock with the podcast.

Speaker 3 (32:56):
Remember.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
Randon then says men don't like being used like sex
objects they can't perform. Sam's like, if they can't perform,
then dump them. And I think that that's a completely
valid reason to dump somebody if they can't perform, Yes,
immediately right right, I mean you couldn't I don't know,
you know, want to try to work with someone to
see if they get better with when you learn each
other's energy, because we can't get it up. You can't

(33:20):
get it up. No, I mean, I'm not saying I'm
getting buried without you know, solving that problem. But is
there a room for sexual chemistry to improve and grow? Yeah,
you know each other more and you actually have conversations
about what each other likes, you know what.

Speaker 3 (33:34):
Personally speaking, I did kind of date someone who always
Oh it's not always, but like, how does shoes? You
know what you call it? What's the word for that? Yeah,
and you know what I tried. I tried to soft
oh soft no, no, no, no, but like, you know,

(33:55):
doing other things because there's so much more you can do, right,
Penetration could be like the very life, very true for
me at least you're someone who doesn't come through penetration.
That's like, there's so much you.

Speaker 2 (34:05):
Can tell you.

Speaker 3 (34:08):
But like it gets to a point where I'm like, no, no, no,
it's just not not it for me.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
I will say I had a bad experience with someone
the first time around, and I wrote them off and
thought they were trash. I even tried to think two
or three more times, I was like, oh yeah, ah,
you suck. And then you know, he was a great
person though outside of that, so I definitely kept around
as a friend. You know. Then we meet up again
and he I don't know if he practiced or what,
but I loved him after.

Speaker 3 (34:35):
Maybe he took medication, maybe gone on, oh.

Speaker 2 (34:43):
Stroke, right, But so then I fell in love. And
so you can grow. You can grow sexually. You can't
grow sexual chemistry with somebody. I don't think you should
write them off immediately. I do agree with you. Alia
tested a few times and then if it doesn't work.
I don't know about you, norms. I don't know if
I'm as big of a woman as you to do
like all those other things. But I fall somewhere between

(35:05):
you two.

Speaker 1 (35:05):
I wonder if men do that too, Like how if
they write someone off or they give that woman a
chance to you know.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
Oh if you think, or if you don't have walls
or like they're out. Well, Carrie believes that that is cynical.
What about romance? You can't make it all about sex,
And then Miranda says, it's like that guy Jeremiah the poet,
I mean sex was incredible, and then he wanted to
read me his poetry.

Speaker 5 (35:31):
I wanted to dinner, and the whole chat fit and
I'm like, let's not even go there.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
Don't make sex and romance when you have great sex.
Let's leave it at great sex. But then the poet
wanted to be more and make a relationship. Miranda's like,
don't even go there. I don't even know what Miranda wants.
Miranda don't even know what she wanted to use me.
Do you want, Amanda, you want sex? Like what do
you want? Do you want romance? Like? Do you want
a look at me? An ugly man? I don't know
what that girl wants. I'll say they were making her

(35:56):
very difficult in the first few episodes, for sure.

Speaker 3 (36:00):
You know, I'm so trying to learn to love Miranda.
I feel like, because we're both natural redheads, I should Yeah,
Miranda annoys me a lot of the time.

Speaker 2 (36:13):
She also annoys Charlotte. Charotte's like, so what you're giving
up on love? That's sick. Carrie is like, nah, let
the right one come along, And all this shit that
Miranda and Sam are talking is going to right out
the window. The right guy is going to get him
right in love with them, and Sam's like the right guy,
he's an illusion, he doesn't exist. Start living your life.

(36:33):
Do you believe in the right man? Not so much anymore.
But that's because I'm becoming a Miranda energy fighting that energy.
I'll be trying to lead hard into Charlotte, but I'll
be trying to continually believe that there is a right
person out there for me because I don't want to
lose hope in that. Yeah, I think the I think
the right person for me exists, and it might be

(36:54):
you know, I don't think the right person exists in
the way that we see it. I think there could
be more than one right person.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
Yeah, you know, there's more than just one getting that
people search for that. Oh I hope that person is
the one by so many this person is just like okay,
So if that person passes and it is love gone, like,
are you not gonna redo it again? So I do
believe in right men or right people.

Speaker 3 (37:18):
Being you know, for you.

Speaker 1 (37:19):
And it's like there's so many different qualities that you
didn't even know you were into until you meet someone
else and you're like, oh, yeah, this guy and I
want this guy with this quality.

Speaker 3 (37:28):
Yeah, it's just too me variety exactly. I think the
right guy. I think the right guy exists for me.
I'm praying for that man. I feel like sometimes that
right you, you may have like an idea of your
right guy, but you could be surprised, right, You never know,
so don't just hope. Yeah, you don't know. But that's

(37:52):
the thing when you think that.

Speaker 1 (37:54):
And to your point, when you think that, oh, let's
say you found that one right and he's everything you want.

Speaker 3 (38:00):
Yeah, but then it doesn't.

Speaker 1 (38:01):
Work out and you're now you're like, oh my gosh,
now you feel so bad because you're like, you put
all your eggs in this, like this one person, and
you thought he was everything, and then when he messes
up where he disappoints you, it's just like you're stuck
in this relationship trying to figure it out and work
it out, when if you would change your mindset and
you're like, there's a lot of many great right ones

(38:21):
and if this one didn't work out, I'm gonna find
a better one than him.

Speaker 3 (38:26):
But see, but it goes back. It wasn't your right person. Like,
it wasn't your person. It may just a person who
were dating because I've been in this situation where I
thought I found the love of my life. He broke
my heart, and you know, it took him breaking my
heart for me to realize, No, this wasn't the guy
that I the right guy for me because I was settling.

(38:47):
I was settling so much, right, but I feel like,
if it didn't work out, it wasn't your guy. But yeah,
let's I don't want to lose hope. I'm not losing hope.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
Do you think that that was even though it ended badly?
Do you think he was the right guy for who
you are at that point in your life? And so
the right guy existed for that chapter.

Speaker 3 (39:05):
I attracted exactly what I was at that time. I
attracted a loser ass guy because I was being a
loser ass woman, you know, like I was such I
wasn't such a no you know what I didn't.

Speaker 2 (39:19):
I didn't.

Speaker 3 (39:21):
And I can talk about that ship now without crying
because honestly, like it was probably the biggest heartbreak I
experienced with a guy. Right But and at that time,
I was like, oh my god, I loved him so
much and I was so enamored by him. But looking back,
I'm like, what the fuck, were you thinking he didn't
have a stable job. You were willing to fucking support

(39:42):
his ugly ass. He sucked in bed. He was the
most boring fuck I've ever had. But I loved him,
you know. And girl, I'll show you pictures. But it's like,
you know, at that time, I attracted exactly what I
was going through. I was in such a depressive, horrible
depressive episode. Then I trashed exactly someone like me.

Speaker 2 (40:08):
So after that discussion, Carry goes home to write and
ponder about sex like a man. In the next scene,
she's at lunch with Stanford, who, at this time she
introduces him as a struggling talent agency owner, but he's
too busy to date because he has his one client
and he wants him to be great. Carrie down blazes
this client like he's just the underwear model Stanford, and

(40:30):
Stanford's like, and She's like, don't be obsessed. Stanford's like,
but he's a underwear model with his billboard on Times Square, Like,
let me be great, you know. But Carrie wasn't trying
to hear that. Next thing, you know, Stanford sees the
loads of her life. The loath of her life was
a mistake she made when she was twenty six, twenty
nine and thirty one. Stanford's like, yo, sis, don't play

(40:51):
with fire. That was in verbatim, and she was like, bro,
I want to play with fire. So she gets up
and she tries this having sex like a man. Think
I want to state Carrie kind of judged Sam and
Miranda hardcore right. It was never like an acknowledgment of
I'm about to go dabble in. This little bit was like, oh,
you guys are crazy da And she goes out the

(41:12):
next day with her other friend and then does it.
Is she wrong not for not saying, hey, I want
like no, I don't think you have to update your
friends on your play by play. I don't think she
ever outright said I would never do it. But I mean,
I believe she could have gave a little bit more like,
oh I'll try it, or show a little bit more interest.
I don't think she was outright wrong for trying it
without letting everybody know. You can keep you know, your

(41:34):
cars close to your chest. You don't got to her everybody.
Everything fair, all right? So Carrie wants to have this
sex like man. She walks up to the load of
her life, and she uses the sexiest line ever. She
says later, I thought you were for the rest of
your life. That was very forward. Who said anything about talking?

Speaker 3 (41:55):
I liked her at that moment, but did you just
for that moment?

Speaker 2 (42:01):
I think she should have listened to her friend. I
just think there's a little nugget there, and your friend
knows your rational mind and tell you not to play
with fire. I mean, you could always do what you want,
but sometimes your friends be knowing.

Speaker 5 (42:11):
You know.

Speaker 2 (42:12):
Yeah, After she says who said anything about talking, He's like,
all right, let's do three o'clock, and obviously said three o'clock.
I think that that's a suggestive time. I just feel
like three o'clock it's like midday lunch break, sex, like
so raunchy, Like I'd rather like have dinner, spend time together,
watch a movie. Wind down you at three pm, out

(42:34):
of the house by five pm. If you're lucky, five
get out forty five.

Speaker 3 (42:42):
But that's dating. No, she they were just meaning up
to fuck.

Speaker 2 (42:45):
Yeah, you're right about that, and then the next scene
they do just that.

Speaker 4 (42:52):
Alrighty turn, Sorry.

Speaker 3 (43:01):
I have to go back to work.

Speaker 2 (43:02):
So she gets her rocks off and then she has
to go back to work. He's like, Yo, where are
you going? What about me? And she was like, yeah,
I gotta go. So she literally successfully had sex like
a man, and just going back to the earlier in
the conversation, that's just something I could never do. I
would feel so bad. Yeah, I'm not a.

Speaker 3 (43:20):
Selfish lover, but you see, I that's the thing.

Speaker 1 (43:26):
You guys feel like you owe someone that treated you
like crap still something.

Speaker 2 (43:30):
And it's just like Carrie.

Speaker 1 (43:32):
She did what she had to do because that man
did not respect her.

Speaker 2 (43:35):
I feel like, if I got to do that, I
shouldn't be doing this. I don't I agree. I don't
think she should be doing it at all.

Speaker 1 (43:41):
But she shouldn't have filled the obligation to you know,
or anyone exactly like right, I mean, I guess.

Speaker 3 (43:49):
I guess you treat them accordingly word.

Speaker 1 (43:52):
Treat them like like exactly treat men, help men treat women.

Speaker 2 (43:57):
She leaves very very proud of herself. She's walking her
head held high and she says nothing and no one
could get in my way. And then she runs into
some guy, spills all her continence, continents condoms. No, girl,
I was trying to content contents were condoms that she

(44:21):
spilled all over the street, and then we meet mister
big nothing or can get in my way confetti, and
then mister big runs. I think that was indicative of
what's about to have it for the next six seasons,
where he continues to get in her way for the
rest of her life. But yeah, so he picked up
all the condoms off of the street and whatever else

(44:43):
that she had. She thanks him for picking everything up.
He says, anytime, And that was literally their first worse together.
She said thanks, he said any time. I think for
the story that is carrying brigg their first line together
could have been a little bit more meaningful. Yeah, I
mean I definitely sensed energy, like they were feeling each other.
I think that was also just indicative of what happens today,

(45:04):
Like clearly there's some energy between us, but nobody's ready
to make that first move. And then you walk off
from in this major city where realistically you're never going
to see that person again. He's luckily to have brandon
him again. But I agree, I would have loved more
from them for their first interaction. She walks off, She
looks back, and then she trips, like why would she
look back. Why would she trip carriages? I cringe? I cringe.

(45:27):
So that's like classic Carrie getting humbled. Yeah, getting humbled
all the time. Honestly, I have to agree with that
great point. Next scene, we meet Skipper officially. We met
him as a stranger in the beginning, and now we
meet him officially. He's talking to his friend Carrie about
how he has been able to date for a year.
I don't understand that.

Speaker 3 (45:46):
You're such a nice guy. That's the problem. I'm too nice,
you know, I'm a romantic.

Speaker 6 (45:51):
I just have so much feeling.

Speaker 2 (45:54):
Why would carry ask him that? Like, why would she
ask him? Are you sure you're not gay?

Speaker 5 (45:57):
Bro?

Speaker 2 (45:58):
Because she's from New York? Straightforward bottom live and I
try to ask a bunch of questions around the bush
to find out. I mean, literally, I'm telling you how
I haven't made a dig a woman. It's because I'm
too nice and romantic. Are you sure you're not gay?

Speaker 5 (46:11):
Like?

Speaker 2 (46:11):
Girl, I would have cut her off. She would not
be she really feels right. She's like, yeah, she thinks
he's gay. He's like, no, I'm not gay. I don't
even like the word pussy. Like I'm just a sensitive guy.
So he's like, yo, do you have any friends that
that that you know you can hook me up with?
She's like, I got a friend, Miranda. Why would she
choose Miranda? When Miranda was just going off about how

(46:33):
she does not like nice guys, and Charlotte is like,
I love nice guys. I want to be married. I'm
a romantical Why would she Why wouldn't she choose.

Speaker 3 (46:42):
Charlotte because she's a mean girl.

Speaker 2 (46:43):
Do you think Charlotte and Skipper could have worked? I
think that definitely, not any of four of them. For
Charlotte too.

Speaker 3 (46:51):
Charlotte also has a standard of like wealth.

Speaker 2 (46:53):
To Charlotte, you don't carry himself like a powerhouse.

Speaker 3 (47:01):
He in alpha, he doesn't have a backbone, he.

Speaker 2 (47:04):
Has no money. Okay, well that explains it. I feel
like Carrie set Skipper up for failure.

Speaker 3 (47:13):
I think that, yeah, yeah, we definitely for sure, right.

Speaker 2 (47:15):
I don't know what her intention was. If you don't
think your friend wants them, and you know you're maybe.

Speaker 3 (47:20):
It's just content for her.

Speaker 2 (47:22):
Because literally she said Miranda. She even says like Miranda
would hate Skipper. So I think I just mean girl.
It's giving, it's given. So in the next scene, Charlotte
calls and she says she has a date with a bachelor.
Everyone knows apparently that this bachelor is ungettable, but she
tells Carrie, I don't want no feedback. I'm really excited
about my date. Let's do this, and Carrie decides to

(47:45):
just say, you know what, you have fun, let me
know how it goes. Do you think that she was
being a mean girl by not giving Charlotte the heads up? Like, yo, girl,
he is an undateable bachelor. He's not. He's going to
play you just like he does everybody else. Or did
carry do the right thing because Charlie didn't want any
feedback on her relationship.

Speaker 3 (48:00):
She followed Charlotte's instructions, So I don't think she was
being a mean grown not a situation.

Speaker 2 (48:07):
Yeah, I think the tea on him wasn't that bad
to have to tell her like ungettable duo? All right, Charlotte, Donna,
you want to get him. In the next scene, Carrie's
at a bar where everyone knows your name, but it's
likely to forget it. We then go to the scene
with Miranda and Skipper on the infamous date that we
knew what's up, and as we predicted Miranda's eating Skipper's

(48:27):
ass up. Skipper can do no right in Miranda's eyes.
Miranda's complaining about all the women at the bar and
how there are skinny models. Everybody here is a skinny
model outside of me, and Skipper's like, yes, it's like
the underreater's anonymous here. And Miranda's like, oh, that's funny, Skippy.
She tells them about her theory about men hating pretty
women because they rejected them in high school. Skipper's like, well,

(48:48):
if you're not in the Beauty Olympics, you can still
be interesting. Miranda's like, wait, you're saying that. I'm not
bringing that to be in the beauty Like Skipper could
just say nothing right in the scene. And I don't know.
Is it because Miranda's impouse to please and doesn't know
herself or is it because when you really don't like somebody,
everything they say and do is gonna piss you off.
I think both.

Speaker 3 (49:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (49:09):
Like all Miranda, like I said, just wants to complain
about everything, but I don't think she's really seeking a solution.
And then she has a nice guy right in front
of her and he can't do nothing right, like she's
going to find an issue. I feel like it speaks
to that that game where you just want someone they
don't want you, and then when you really want someone,
they're not available to you.

Speaker 5 (49:29):
Cool.

Speaker 2 (49:30):
Yeah, I know that. I don't know if that's the terminology,
but I know the rule. Yeah. I feel like that's
what's happening right now with Miranda. The energy she's carrying
mm hm. Carrie is on her way to rescue Skipper
from a hopeless situation when she runs into none other
than the Lowld of her life, and he's thrilled about
their last interaction, even though she got up and left

(49:51):
and felt like he would be pissed that he didn't finish.
He was a little mad, but then he thought about it. Great,
you finally understand the kind of relationship I really and
now one got sex without commitment.

Speaker 6 (50:02):
Yeah right, sure, yes, So whenever I feel like it,
I'll give you a call.

Speaker 3 (50:08):
Yeah, please, giving whatever you feel like.

Speaker 2 (50:10):
If I'm alone, I'm on yours right, I'm like to
through you. She then walks away and she's like, if
this is my calling, why do I feel like I'm
not in control? I think she thought she was in control,
maybe had the control or the power for a little second,
but then I think she ended up still feeling some
type of way because she wanted him to want more

(50:31):
from her, or wanted to keep him exactly where she
she wanted him to stand. And you can never really
fully control another person, like the fact that he was
actually down for exactly what she wanted, I guess shows
that that was never what she went in the first place.
She wanted something different from him, so she was never
in control. Then Samantha runs up on her, pointing out
mister Big. She sees them at the party and she's like,

(50:53):
oh my god, he is a powerhouse. This is Samantha.
She's interested in mister Big, but he only dates models,
That's what Sammy says. But since Carrie wasn't going to
make a move, Samy went and made a move. Have
you ever had that awkward situation where your friend like
dated your friend, or try to date your boyfriend before
he was yours, or did you try to date your
friend's boyfriend, Like that's awkward situation. They literally never acknowledge

(51:14):
Samantha and Carrie going for mister Big ever again, But
it could have just been because Samantha's only about the sex.
And she didn't get the sex from him. I definitely
feel like that's happened, you know, like either I'm interested
him and he likes my friend, or my friend's interested
in him and he likes me. It's an awkward nam mmmm.
We go to the scene with Charlotte, who was on
the date with the guy that she was just calling

(51:35):
Carrie all excited about. She remains a hard mystery all
throughout the date and the gig date happens to be
guy number two that we met earlier in the episode
that said it's all about sex and biology Capodi Duncan Boom.
So he's so. She believes that that she plays the
game perfectly. She remains a mystery. She doesn't give it up.
He tries to get it from her. She's like, uh no,
I really shouldn't.

Speaker 6 (51:56):
I got it?

Speaker 2 (51:56):
Did that that? Whatever? I gotta get early whatever, she said,
and he's like, all right, cool. He even asked her
out on the follow up date. He calls her a cab.
He seems like a perfect gentleman, and we believe that
to be so until he gets in the cab with her, like, bro,
I gotta get late tonight. If you're not gonna give
it to me. I'm gonna get it from somebody. Where
are you going, Let's ride in this cab together, save
me a little dollar, and let me get some yams.

(52:18):
And then in the next scene they show Sammy Joe.
Was that like a little nod from the writers? I mean,
just rest out, how disrespectful. And you couldn't take another
cab like you gotta hop in the same cab. You
could have played this game so much differently. We would
have been on our date next Saturday. I hadn't need
to know at all what you wanted to do after this.
But I don't know what you mean by not. Oh,
I will get into that.

Speaker 3 (52:38):
I think it was better for Charlotte for him to
show his true colors, and instead of her getting her
hopes up and continuing her little thing.

Speaker 2 (52:48):
I would have cried. I would have cried in the car.

Speaker 3 (52:49):
I actually really laughed at that scene because I thought
it was fucking hilarious. Her fucking face of disgust and
she's like, Okay.

Speaker 2 (52:56):
I know I would have gone out and got me
in another cab, like I'm not riding this cat with you?
Oh yeah, for sure. The next uber.

Speaker 3 (53:03):
Ultimately like he paid the he would pay the cab
and not her be like fuck it.

Speaker 2 (53:08):
Didn't him give no money when the cabled up. I mean,
I guess if you ordered the cab. Yeah, he might
was the first stop. Yeah, the pay I suppose. After
that awkward moment, we go into the next awkward moment
where Sammy Joe is making her move on mister Big
and this great source that sends me on durance. Do

(53:30):
you want to try? And like, no, thank you.

Speaker 3 (53:32):
You can't find them anywhere, because he was that's all I.

Speaker 2 (53:37):
Do the pr for this club, and I have a
key of the private room downstairs.

Speaker 3 (53:42):
You want a private time?

Speaker 2 (53:45):
Thanks, maybe another time. That has to be the most
That was like so cringe, so awkward, the level of rejection.

Speaker 3 (53:54):
Even in that scene, there's a woman behind Samantha Jones
even giving her the face girl I didn't even know
to grow.

Speaker 2 (54:02):
In the background, she embar word. They made Sammy Joe
such weak sauce in the beginning, bro, yeah, put herself
all the way out there. Indeed, he said no things,
but maybe another time, Like my vagina is in a
beautiful box for you here do you want it?

Speaker 3 (54:16):
And he said I'm good again. I feel like he
said no because she is too old for him, and.

Speaker 1 (54:23):
She's so I think to your point, Norms, I think
she's also too forward for him. A.

Speaker 3 (54:30):
Yeah, very.

Speaker 2 (54:35):
I would have cried.

Speaker 3 (54:37):
I would have immediately.

Speaker 2 (54:40):
We then go back to Miranda and Skipper, who she
still disrespected him. She keeps calling this grown man Skippy.
He's like, yo, m naven Skipper. She's like whatever, Skippy,
Like Miranda is such a bitch bro like in this episode,
I just if I was Skipper, I literally would have
just walked off and me I would have ordered all
the food and then went to the bathroom and I
have paid for everything. Like you got me fed up? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (55:00):
Wait, is Skipper an actual name? Like or that's not
a nickname?

Speaker 2 (55:04):
We we know I'm a Skipper. I don't know anything
else outside of Skipper.

Speaker 3 (55:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (55:09):
But she keeps calling them skippy and they're walking away
and he's like, all right, where we had it. She's like,
oh ye ask a no for me, this was cute,
this was fun, but I'm gonna get up out of here.
He's like, oh you thought. He grabs her, pulls around
and gives her a very unskippy like kiss. He was
not being the nice guy that we know him to be,
but he was being an aggressive, manly man and this
actually sparked Moriana's interest. Next thing, you know, she's kissing

(55:31):
them back and she's like, oh, I guess I can
overlook this one floor.

Speaker 3 (55:36):
She's trying to recreate that one scene they mentioned during
the lunch ding, you know, during the dinner birthday dinner.

Speaker 2 (55:42):
Oh the movie where she turns them.

Speaker 3 (55:45):
Around and like pushes them up.

Speaker 2 (55:47):
Against the wall. Oh, you're right, I don't even know writers.
I love that. So when I said it was a
nod earlier, it's because in the next thing, after Charlotte,
I mean, after Miranda pushed Skipper against the wall. Good Pody.
He did end up getting lucky that night. He got lucky.

Speaker 3 (56:09):
He got his fix with Sammy Joe.

Speaker 2 (56:12):
So yeah, Sammy Joe and him are having sex in
the next scene. And this is another unfortunate cringe cringe
moment for Samantha.

Speaker 6 (56:28):
I got to get up really early, so you can't
stay over cool.

Speaker 3 (56:34):
Sure, I have to get up really early.

Speaker 2 (56:35):
Too, girl. Know you didn't, No, you didn't. So he
like was obviously asked Charlotte out for another date because
he was interested in her. Because she played the game
right right. Then he goes home with Miranda Samantha, who's
just there to get his rocks off, and he treats
her like, girl, you better be out before the sun
comes up. My heart breaks for women everywhere it's talking
about settling. After she got rejected from Big you go

(56:58):
home with this guy who basically just like after he
tells you gotta go, like you don't even deserve anything.
So my heart just breaks for Sammy Joe. Yeah, by
any woman who's in that position. I just don't. I
didn't see any empowerment there.

Speaker 3 (57:11):
Yeah, I feel for her. I mean we do see
a glimmer of sadness in her face, right, but she
still him.

Speaker 1 (57:18):
That was the main part. That was like the starting
point for her, like where she something rewired in her
mind where she was like, oh now I get it,
I'm gonna start like she shut off her emotions and
then that's when she was like, I'm gonna just have
no like a man.

Speaker 2 (57:33):
I'm out too. I have to agree, Dana. I thought
I agreed that was the birth of Sammy Joe because
she did look sad. Well, he started so much that
thing she started to smile and she was like, I
think I can get what it does. You know, we'll
see an episode two, but in episode one she definitely
ended with a smile after he started taking. They both

(57:53):
got what they wanted that night. They got what they
wanted that night. Carrie's still out there alone after all
our friends. Samantha's with Capodi, Charlotte's home, Miranda's pushing Skipper
against the wall, and Carrie can't get a cab. She's
just about to do the unthinkable and walk when mister
Big pulls up and he's like, hey, you know you

(58:15):
need a run? Yeah, and she just gets in no
stranger danger. I guess she ran in him twice in
these streets. He knows who he is. Like, yeah, I'm
willing to get in the car with you, and they
start to finally have some conversation. He's like, you know,
what is it? What have you been up to this week?
What do you do? What have you do? You mean
besides going out every night?

Speaker 5 (58:32):
Yeah, I mean, what do you do for work?

Speaker 6 (58:34):
Well, that's just my work.

Speaker 2 (58:36):
I'm sort of a sexual anthropologist, you mean, like a hooker.
His sense of humor, he's so funny. He's so funny
I'll be so offended though, like you thought I was
a hooker this whole time, and I've been in love
with you, like I've been attracted to you, and you
think I'm a hook up. I don't know that's Carrie

(58:57):
was in love or super duper attraction. She was definitely attracted, well,
I guess well, I don't know if she ever felt
like she it was realistic for her. She never really
entertained it. Like when Sammy Joe saw him over there
with her, Sammy went for it. Carrie never even felt
like she said, I don't even know him. She didn't
even tell Sammy about the interaction that they had. But
to this specific scene, I feel like Carrie played into that,

(59:18):
you know, oh, being coy. He gonna say, like, I mean,
if you won't answer the question, and I was gonna
start making guesses. Yeah, I guess you're right. Then she
starts to talk about her column and her sex like
a man theory.

Speaker 6 (59:33):
Right now, I'm researching an article about women who have
sex like men. You know, they have sex.

Speaker 2 (59:37):
And then afterwards they feel nothing.

Speaker 4 (59:39):
But you're not like that, Well, aren't you not a drop?

Speaker 2 (59:44):
Not even half a drop? First of all, shut the
hell up that part? How do you know that she's
not like that? You ran into her, She was just
getting like a man upstairs. She comes down there, she
spoke condoms all over the street, and you see her
like out all night on the side of the corner.
How do you assume that she isn't like that? I
feel like men do that. I've had men say that

(01:00:05):
to me before. Oh you like that too, or you're
not like that. I don't know if it's it's just
or a line, but I do think men do that
like they see you. So was he lying on her
and he's like, I'm not like that, not even a drop?
I don't think so, I don't. I think if he
was like that, he would have went home with Samantha.

Speaker 3 (01:00:21):
I feel like his comment or his response was more
like again reinforcing that idea that only men, you know,
like only men can have sex without feelings. And also
again going back to my point, he literally does only
date model.

Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
So he don't want carries.

Speaker 1 (01:00:40):
Honestly to your point, Norms, I think that he has
a caliber like a certain type of women.

Speaker 3 (01:00:45):
He goes more like class.

Speaker 1 (01:00:47):
So you know, Aliyah, when you were referring to he
didn't go with Dammy Joe. Yes, but because how she
came off as too. It was in classy, it wasn't
lady like, it was more masculine.

Speaker 3 (01:00:58):
Dana, Why in that he why didn't he like approach
for during the party.

Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
Was on the corner?

Speaker 3 (01:01:05):
Yeah, like a hooker, And I'm just gonna I'm like,
you know, it's just again. You know, I've seen the
whole show, so I have like I'm biased, but it's
like just on this one episode, like she's on a model.
He did an approach for in the end, during the
entire party. So I don't know, I feel like this
episode really does speak on him just wanting to date models.

Speaker 2 (01:01:28):
I don't know. I think that he definitely is attracted
to carry like that's undeniable.

Speaker 3 (01:01:31):
He is, but he does it. He only shows it
when no one's looking, That's true.

Speaker 2 (01:01:36):
And he's not even being that forward. He's just like
entertaining her at least ago. But if he was that
kind of dude, he would he.

Speaker 3 (01:01:43):
Would have asked her out on the date you wanted to.

Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
You could have no, I'm the Empire state building. I'm
not about to just ask any flus. He let me
fill you out a little bit. First, I'm let's act
like we know who we're talking about here. He's not
about just move with this funny duddy next to the
peanut implants on the on the back of the I'm gidding, really,
I'm just said what Carrie said about herself. Stick with us,

(01:02:07):
We'll get there. But after that, he looks at her
and he's like, oh, I get it, you've never been
in love. And she's like, all the wind just came
out of me. I just don't understand, you know. I
don't know what she said, but something along those lines,
and I don't know why she felt so exposed and
seeing at that moment. Is that an offensive question? Like
or is that offensive comment? I get it, you've never

(01:02:29):
been in love. I've had men say things to me
that along those same lines earlier. I guess they do
be seeing me where Yeah, sometimes it's like they say
something about you, you feel like it clicks, like wait a minute,
like what is it about me that's giving that off?
So I don't know what what she froze, like, what
was going through her mind? But yeah, I've had men
say things to me that made me think like, am
I giving off that or I kind of wish they

(01:02:49):
would have clarified like that ain't true.

Speaker 3 (01:02:51):
I feel like big comment is a bit patron ze scene,
and I think that it also like uh speaks to
like the age difference there, but m he.

Speaker 2 (01:03:03):
Is being patronizing a little condescending God and the first
yeah wait till he gets episode two absolutely condescending McGhee.
But she asked him, have you ever been in love?
He says the famous line, and I have my feelings
about Big, but I love apps fucking.

Speaker 3 (01:03:23):
I thought it was corny, girl, you.

Speaker 2 (01:03:25):
Just say, mister Big, Yeah, I do. It's pretty corny.
But I love when mister Big says, I mean he
picked up in the backs, you know, in the drive.
There's nothing corny about that whole He picked me up
as private driver, took me home, you know, entertaining with
a little sexy ass. But my girl, I would call
immediately if now sooner. Y'all guess how my night went, hooker.

(01:03:49):
And that's how the episode ends with the famous line
absolute fuckinglutely. I loved season one, episode one of Sex
in the City. So now we're gonna talk about the
cringiest moments of the episode. I got three of them here,
and we're all gonna go around after I read them
and vote on what y'all think is the most cringiest
moment of the episode. Okay, sounds good, let's do it

(01:04:12):
all right. So the first cringey part is in the
beginning when that when they were getting the feedback from
the people on the streets, and that one guy was
using real body shaming language like women should just settle
down with a fat tuble lard. I think we got
the audio.

Speaker 3 (01:04:27):
Why don't these women just marry a fat guy? Why
don't they just marry a big, fat tub of lard?

Speaker 2 (01:04:35):
And the next one is when saman The all bold
and confidence, swearing that she had all the looks and
feels of a model, walked up to mister Big and
try in more ways than one, more ways than two
to get him to come home and sleep with her
that night. Due looked her in the eyes and said,
I'm good. I do the pr for this club, and
I have a key to the private room downstairs. You

(01:04:58):
want a private time? No thanks, all that time, no thing,
he said, maybe another time, maybe not. And from what
I apparently people in the background was noticing and just
cringe by it, And the last one is when Samantha
went home with the guy Capodi Duncan actually Charlotte's date
from earlier. So Samantha goes home with him in preparation

(01:05:21):
to get you know, laid for the night. Both of
them on the same wavelength, and he says to her
before they get it in, I got to work early
in the morning, say you can't stay tonight.

Speaker 6 (01:05:35):
I got to get up really early. Actually you can't
stay over cool.

Speaker 3 (01:05:41):
Sure, I have to get.

Speaker 2 (01:05:42):
Up early early too, and they proceed to sleep together.
I'm had to vote for her to being rejected by it.
I'm definitely voting for when she slept with him after
he told her ass she gotta get up out of
there before the morning I got somewhere to go.

Speaker 4 (01:05:55):
I would agree with her going up to Big till.

Speaker 3 (01:05:58):
Yeah, definitely. The moment were Samantha's going up to Big
is the cringiest moment for me.

Speaker 2 (01:06:04):
The rejection in front of people was crazy. Immediately no,
immediately no. So we got three for the rejection in
front of Big and one for Samantha losing all her
dignity before she opened up her legs for a man
I'd rather get rejected before I open up my legs
for a man that tell me I got to be
out by the morning. Let me tell you something. I
hear you alas about enormous. Kayla and Dana augree that

(01:06:27):
it was mister big. But let me tell you. If
I went to a man's house, he was I gotta
be up in the morning. I'm like, good, we do.
That's just dying with me. I'm not repeating that to anybody.
That never happened. I don't know who we get it,
but everybody saw that moment. Like I told my girl,
I'm about to go get this guy. Like I told carry,
I'm about to walk over there and bag him. People
standing around, and I got to walk down there with

(01:06:48):
my television my legs. I respect that. But when I
laid down my head on the pillow at the end
of the night, I don't want to give away the
best part of myself. It is this is a this
creates life. This is evolution. I don't know what the
word is. It's deep. It's deep energy with somebody. Okay,

(01:07:13):
don't tell me, I gotta be out done.

Speaker 3 (01:07:16):
You would have would you have sex with Capodi Duncan
whatever his name is, no, okay, so that's a different
that's a different take.

Speaker 2 (01:07:24):
I mean, if I'm at a man's house and he's like,
I mean, I'm not gonna say absolutely not. You know right,
I'm there, I have drinks in me, whatever, but I
would not feel good about myself. In hindsight, I think
I walked up the next morning, I'd be like, damn,
that dude rejected me at the bar last night, and
that dude told me I had to be out in
the morning. I think I'm gonna feel more bad about
the dude that told me I got to be out

(01:07:45):
in the morning. I could go back and laugh bottle
with my girls, like, oh should he rejected me? God,
I feel so embarrassed. Like I could talk about it
with my girls, I probably wouldn't want to talk about the
other thing.

Speaker 3 (01:07:54):
The biggest thing for me here is that she was
rejecting more than once. And there's what this is surround.

Speaker 2 (01:08:01):
I'm laughing.

Speaker 3 (01:08:02):
She was like a low, low place.

Speaker 2 (01:08:04):
But I will say, to start eating that thang.

Speaker 3 (01:08:07):
Things change. She got something out.

Speaker 2 (01:08:09):
Of the lawn. I mean he did too. We got
to ask out of her. But okay, unfortunately Samantha having
to get out by the next morning is option number
two runner up, but her getting rejected by mister Big
wins the cringiest moment of the episode.

Speaker 1 (01:08:28):
So now let's get into the sex and the social media.
So this person at double point B two tweeted watching
Sex and the City as a teenager was so fun.
Rewatching it in my late twenties has been like being
tortured in Guantanamo. Why can't carry a big just get

(01:08:48):
their timing right?

Speaker 2 (01:08:50):
That is such a twenty something tweet. That is such
a twenty something tweet something right.

Speaker 4 (01:08:56):
Okay, So this next person at Kayla and crumbed.

Speaker 2 (01:09:00):
Love her name.

Speaker 3 (01:09:01):
Wow, Okay, watching it.

Speaker 1 (01:09:04):
In your mid thirties is even better. It took me
about five seconds to clock. The specific issue is that
he's deeply sexually attracted to her but socially embarrassed by her.

Speaker 3 (01:09:14):
Oh so, oh my god, I see it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:19):
Seriously. I never even I never thought that he was
socially embarrassed by her. Yeah, he is. I don't I
don't want to. I gotta watch more. I don't want
to say that that's truth yet. Well, I never thought
because he's out of her league, we'll get to it.
They we'll get to it. Yeah, I never thought of
it that way.

Speaker 1 (01:09:34):
Also separately, that he's been blacklisted from the eligible women
of his class.

Speaker 2 (01:09:40):
Yes, from watching Sex in the City. And she has
some opinions and I'm not going to say that she's
pulling that out of her ask. I know, black missing,
blacklisting a man. That's that, dude, And I don't want
to say, but the big is established this Big got
a driver like Big got something to offer.

Speaker 3 (01:10:03):
Exactly without without taking his character into account. He's an
elible bachelor in New York. No blacklisted mister Big.

Speaker 2 (01:10:13):
Trouble on me, Mister Big can have all this and
this I even go, that's the entire.

Speaker 3 (01:10:18):
State the model, the models are dating.

Speaker 2 (01:10:26):
Models got money.

Speaker 3 (01:10:27):
That's cover of bot model dating.

Speaker 2 (01:10:28):
Well. I guess we'll see moving forward the women that
he's dating. But I think at this point in the
in the show he's been divorced at least once. That's
a hot take. That's a hot take, and I can't
say I disagree. And that was season one, episode one,
Sex in the City. We had so much fun. Make
sure you stick with us, and our bonus episodes were
going to get into the rumors like why Kim Cantrell
and Sarah Jessica Parker actually didn't like each other. Charlotte

(01:10:52):
and mister Big dated in real life. Wow, I had
no idea who said that news I'm crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:11:00):
You look at us, I'm here.

Speaker 2 (01:11:02):
Just take what else next? You listen to our bonus episodes.
Make sure you follow us at Sex and the City
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at Yogi Underscore, Aliyah a l I.

Speaker 3 (01:11:13):
Y A at Dayana, and you can find me at
norm Slow can you?

Speaker 2 (01:11:19):
And we'll see you next time. Bye bye bye