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March 12, 2025 43 mins
Is motherhood a cult? Should I don't have a baby showers be a thing? In  ep 10 The Baby Shower we get candid about our besties being mean girls and frenimies. Is it ever acceptable? Join the discussion @SexInTheCityOfAngels
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is Sex in the City of Angels podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
Almost Thankdays and one. Welcome back to Sex in the
City of Angels. I'm Kayla, I'm eliah Kai.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
I know I'm so happy and David still on her
et love Prey travel in the World. But we are
three single women in our thirties who happened to love
Sex and the City almost through season one, Episode ten,
The Baby Shower. This episode our girls, y'all know I
love them, They're my besties eaters. It was just I
don't I don't do well in the in the realm

(00:46):
of frenemies. Either I fuck with you or I don't
all these other games in between I don't have time for.
Maybe it's the Jersey and me, but they're from New York,
so I just I don't get it.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
Yes, even you should not be invited. O. Let's get
right into it. The Baby Shower.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
After the classic intro, the episode starts with Carrie saying,
sometimes in life, there is nothing harder than being happy
for somebody else, like lottery winners or extremely successful people
that are only twenty seven. Fact, I will say I
never was the person who struggled to be happy for
others like I was just like you know whatever, marchally

(01:24):
me and my own drum.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
I'll get there when I get there.

Speaker 3 (01:28):
The older I get, it's always like somebody won the
lottery around me, you know me Elia has.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
Been praying for the lottery for ten thousand years. If
somebody else's that prayer answered? And I know.

Speaker 3 (01:40):
Oh, but she says, there is that hell on earth
that only your closest friends can inflict on you, the
baby shower.

Speaker 4 (01:50):
You cannot drag me to that thing if you put
a grappling hook in my mouth.

Speaker 5 (01:53):
Frankly, I think it's.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
Said the way she's using a child of validat or
resistance exactly.

Speaker 6 (01:58):
Why can't she just use it a nice cocktail like
the rest of us.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
I'm happy for her, alright. Girls are haters in this episode.
It's undeniable.

Speaker 3 (02:08):
It seems like they've been friends with this girl since
they were like ten years old.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
If you can't be happy for her, who can you
be happy for? You know?

Speaker 3 (02:15):
Yeah, that's just terrible again in front of me, these
people you don't want around you in one of your
joyous transitional times in your life.

Speaker 5 (02:22):
It's screams bitter.

Speaker 3 (02:23):
Well, Carrie does ask the girls would any baby shower
bother you? Or is this one worse because it's Laney.
They all look at each other and think about it
before going.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
To a flashback. Lady Berlin, she can't be described. You
just gotta know her.

Speaker 3 (02:40):
Sam is looking at her saying that if she f's
on that couch, she has to buy it. Carry your mind, Sam,
isn't that how you got the couch from me?

Speaker 2 (02:48):
Sam's so funny? Man judgmental girl? How dare you?

Speaker 3 (02:51):
I love these girls hating asses. Someone then shouts show.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
Us your teds, and Landy's like, gods, haven't you seen it?
Nothing made it.

Speaker 3 (03:01):
And the crowds started screaming ts ts tens. So she
pulls them out.

Speaker 6 (03:08):
Play you get a and rs to a record label. Laura,
she used to call it sex with an expense account.
Every time she went on a scouting trip, she came
back with some hot new group and a gynecological condition
no one had ever heard of.

Speaker 4 (03:22):
Those things make so many public appearances, they need a
booking agent.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
That's funny.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
Those titties make so many public appearances, they need a
booking agent. And I'm very fun you know, I'm a
loose girl.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
I'm young.

Speaker 3 (03:35):
I don't like that shit. I don't like women that
act like that. I cannot be friends with women that
act like that. I was watching the show one time
and this one girl just kept pulling out her titties
every chance she got. That shit turns me off. And
I love titties. I love ass I love to look
at bodies have some decorum.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
You are not my friend.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
Yeah, yeah, I wouldn't hold your clothes. I don't know
whether it'll turn me off or not. I've never been
around that, honestly, like tracks like maybe.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
Yeah, I feel like it's very cringe. I think it
just really shows the very much needed attention, like she
wants the attention constantly.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
Yeah, that's a good point, true. Sam calls it the
poster girl for low self esteem. Miranda's like, I have
low self esteem, but I express it in a healthy
way eating a box of double stuff Oreos. Hell, yeah, Miranda,
I have Miranda keep it in the butt. Not that
I have low self estem I do. I do love
oreos though, So yeah, that's how you express it. I
love to Benji. Let's do it, Sam says. Laney is

(04:33):
so sad before yelling.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
Take off your bra, Carrie says Sam, and Laney have
this long standing rivalry.

Speaker 3 (04:44):
They're both wild, sexy and extremely insecure. Okay, acknowledging Samantha's
insecurity issues last episode or two episodes ago, I was
doubting that she had that level of insecurity to her,
but it sounds like, yeah, it's still there and Carrie
knows it.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (05:03):
Two years ago, Laney did the most shocking thing of all.
She met a Wall Street investment banker, married him, and
moved to Connecticut. Yes, Lany, maybe I should go to
parties and pull atman tities.

Speaker 6 (05:15):
That wasn't supposed to happen. She was supposed to have
sex with subsicious and move to Heroin.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
Not moved to Heroin, had no high expectations supposed to Okay, damn,
is this your friend? Or is this your friend?

Speaker 3 (05:30):
Charlotte encourages them, saying it'll be fun. We never get
to see her in Connecticut. Sam's like there's a reason
for that. Carrie's like lime disease. It's like, oh, that's
a good one. I don't even know. I don't even
get that.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
Maybe living in like a wooded area.

Speaker 3 (05:43):
I've never been to Connecticut, but here beautiful and Galloway
lime disease and the Ticksworth thing and in him that's Galloway,
New Jersey shout outs. Charlotte says it's a baby shower,
and Miranda calls it a cult. She says they all
think the same, dress the same and sacrifice himself else
for the same cause babies.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
Charlotte calls her insane.

Speaker 4 (06:04):
Hey, I've lost two sisters to the motherhood.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
I know what I'm talking about.

Speaker 3 (06:09):
Apparently, when your friends and sisters become mothers, you lose
them to this cult called motherhood. If I was a
mom watching this, I would be offended. I will legit
say that I've had two friends that once they got pregnant.
One of them I didn't even meet their child. The
other one I met her child, but the friendship completely changed.
Like nothing in common, it changes, it changes. I don't

(06:35):
lose friends that have had babies. When I met when
she was a mom or got close to when she
was a mom, she's having, you know, a kid or
two since then. Her personality hasn't changed much, but her time,
her time, her time, and she's married, so you know,
you got to spend there with your husband.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
My bestie had kids and we can still stay on
the phone for hours and hours. The conversation may be
a little bit different, but it could be the same
if I so choose.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
She's a real good she's my bestie. You know, we've
been friend since the beginning of time. But there is
there is a new factor now, there is a new
element to her. Sometime kitchen table talk isn't it's fun
with her. She's a little bit more serious. But hey,
what you're gonna do? That could be also because of
her career. What you're gonna do.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
So when friends have kids, it does change the relationship,
the friendship, not in a bad way. But you have
to take into account different dynamics, different factors. Right, Like,
if if I'm gonna make a date with my friend
who has a kid, I'm gonna take that into account
and plan like a kid friendly date, right, Like, we're
not gonna you may she may not have a sitter

(07:35):
to go get do brunch and get drunk. No, right,
maybe we can do a hike or a restaurant that's
family friendly, taking a walk, you know. So I do
take that into account, But I don't like that they're
implying that your friends having friends or your friends having
kids it's a bad thing.

Speaker 3 (07:55):
Yeah, automatic game changer doesn't have to be. And I
do agree that the dynamics do change. Me and one
of my closest friends had a movie night the other
day and I knew that, you know, movie night met
She's she'll get a break, and I will take this baby,
which I love with all my heart. So I will
take the baby. You go ahead, take your nap, girl,
and I'll watch movies with this baby. But movie nights
used to be us binge watching the Purge and you know, laughing,

(08:18):
and you know, now it's now it's completely different, but
not not a bad thing.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
Not a bad thing.

Speaker 3 (08:24):
And don't they don't give that grace to their friends,
but Laney ain't really their friend.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
Carrie's like, it's the right thing to do.

Speaker 3 (08:30):
We should go. Samantha's like, why, what's the reason? Why
should we f and go? She can't say all that,
but Carry is like, listen, you're driving down the road.
You see a sign that says two hit a snake.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
You stop. Laney's having a baby. You stop, you pull over.

Speaker 3 (08:46):
Sam agrees, and then, basking in the glory of how
fat Laney must be, let's go.

Speaker 1 (08:52):
I'll explain that that statement because I didn't get it.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
That she's fat.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
No, I don't, is she?

Speaker 3 (09:00):
I guess it's just something to witness and be a
bystander for, even if it's just for the theatrics of
it all.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
I'll show up to the baby shower, the gifts.

Speaker 5 (09:08):
That's shy, that is shitty.

Speaker 3 (09:10):
It's something you never thought. What happened this woman that
was just pulling out her titties at parties. Everybody's yelling
is that woman? So it's as wild, it's like her
being a two headed snake. Like, let me look at
this woman in a whole other element. She's living in
Connecticut with her Wall Street husband and having a baby,
not the titty girl.

Speaker 5 (09:25):
Listen.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
Maybe there their baby showers are boring as fuck. But
Latino Mexican baby showers period.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
I heard you guys like three am oh, we.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
Threw my sister's baby shower for her first kid, and yeah,
that was a wild party.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
Because they're fun. I hate baby shower games.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
I won't I won't partake in them, but baby showers
in general, Latino Mexican baby showers.

Speaker 5 (09:56):
Are fun, period.

Speaker 3 (09:57):
I need to show up to that. Yeah, the friend
that I never met her baby. I showed up to
her baby shower drunk. Forgive me, I had a full
day to see, bought me tickets to the iMX Eor,
the Game of Thrones at the Tropicana in the quarter.
We were drinking, we were lit, We made time for
the baby shower. And I feel like she was mad
at us, honestly. Ever since that day she acted funny

(10:19):
and she talked about my friend who showed up drunk.
Maybe like a year later, I put it behind, put
it in perspective that I.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
Was drunk too, So she's mad at I will say
I love a baby shower. I love baby shower games.
I compete.

Speaker 3 (10:32):
I will put the you know, drink the bottles the
fastest I went in the prize. I'm just the competitor first,
and I love games, So I don't care if babies
there or not. If there's drinks, I'm drinking, and if
there's games, I'm playing.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
Catch me on a dance. Little Yeah.

Speaker 3 (10:45):
I feel like a baby showers that I've been to,
and I can't speak to that many, but I don't
recall alcohol being served. Truthfully, I don't think that we
serve them at at baby showers in our culture I
feel like we have one of my closest friends and trainer.
She had a baby shower drinks. No no, no, no
no no. I don't think you were there, not the one.
It was one in Jersey. Yeah, but I went to

(11:06):
the Pampa party. The Pampa party also had so yeah,
she's that was a good time.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
Yeah, I have videos, Kayla, Yes, you were there.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
On the dance Cayla, you don't remember me there? Wow,
I was a drunk girl. But I love you.

Speaker 3 (11:23):
Normals don't ever get it twisted. That's funny, Harry. She's
penciling the day of the baby shower into her calendar
and she realizes her period is four days late the drama,
so she was a week late when it was time
to go to the baby shower. Miranda plans to stop

(11:45):
a lot on the way because she's drinking a cappuccino
or whatever.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (11:48):
Sam is dressed very very provocatively.

Speaker 4 (11:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
These women are the worst. They really are.

Speaker 3 (11:55):
Sam was a full sex kid and say what she
saw her like, what do you what are you giving
baby belly dances?

Speaker 2 (12:04):
It was out so funny.

Speaker 4 (12:06):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
And then Carrie realized, like, oh, ship up, I forgot
to give completely slip my mind. Sam's like, you want
to go in online.

Speaker 6 (12:16):
You bought a pregnant woman a bottle of scotch, the
invitation should be wildb that meant bring your own baby.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
I can't not a bottle of scotch. What is the
wrong word.

Speaker 3 (12:29):
So I just want to point out that I had
a friend who had a baby shower which I was
invited to, but I didn't go because I wasn't even
really fucking with that girl. But anyway, and another friend
I noticed she went to the baby shower and like
a crop top. And I commented in my head, like
that's kind of messed up to show up to a
baby shower, like in the best shape of your life
in a crop top.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
I feel like it's shady.

Speaker 3 (12:48):
No, I disagree, all right. I mean, I'm not saying that.
There's a lot of people that won't have that stance.
I can see maybe Samantha is a little bit sexy.
I think I was thinking more or less like it's
a family thing, you know, bring your own baby, kids involved.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
You don't have to dress like that. But I'm not
about to cover my belly because you got a baby grown.
It's a blessing.

Speaker 3 (13:05):
I mean anything. Don't worry your belly out. I hear you,
I hear you.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
Listen.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
This baby shower needed some spiciness because it was very bland.

Speaker 3 (13:15):
Okay, I need a little seasoning. Carrie did not want
to go in on Samantha's gift of Scotch. She's like, Miranda,
what did you get her? She's like, condoms the.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
Word.

Speaker 3 (13:29):
And that's when Charltie runs up with her huge gift,
and Carry's like, oh yeah, I'm putting my name on
back that boy. And I would typically judge Carry like
I'll dare you, but I'd be lying if I didn't
say I'm not the type to sign a card or too.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
How much my.

Speaker 6 (13:48):
Period? Laugh?

Speaker 2 (13:51):
You thought of you? Deep? They all hop in the
car and none of them gets in the driver's That's
my favorite scene I think of all time. The citybody
to know how to drive. They filed into every seat,
the driver's seat. That's so funny. That is like I
would never get in the back seat. Just shotgun. Okay,

(14:15):
So I I was thinking about that too. I'm always
the driver in college. I was always the driver.

Speaker 3 (14:20):
Carrie drives and they get to Connecticut and Carrie says,
even though it has so much nature.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
It looks so unnatural.

Speaker 3 (14:26):
Charlotte compliments the beautiful house, and she goes to play
with the dog, and then the dog gets shot by
some electric fence, which, okay, that's the newest thing.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
Which it's a little bit inhumania. Dog, I think, so,
I think about the dog.

Speaker 3 (14:51):
But as they're walking up to the house, Carry is like, oh, Charlotte,
hey babe, don't forget the gift.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
Don't forget our gifts. Carry drives runs back to the car.
Oh sorry, and then goes and gets to the gift,
like you got some nervous bitch, she got some nerve.

Speaker 5 (15:06):
Even wait for her.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
Okay. They walk up right in the house and they
give the fakest hella, like the biggest hello in the
history of life. It was the fakest thing I had
ever seen.

Speaker 3 (15:17):
Then Sam says, I can eat anything I want, jealous.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
Just like a natural competition. Friends, it's you're huge.

Speaker 3 (15:30):
I don't know if any pregnant one wants to hear
that I can eat anything I want. Jealous, Like, what
the fuck? No, I, what the hell is happening? Go home,
turn around, go back. But anyway, she invites them and
then she introduces our girls to her shady Connecticut friends.
They're like, oh, we thought you weren't going to make it.
Carrie's like, oh yeah, we got lost going over. We
took the wrong bridge. Lady's like, oh my god, guys,

(15:51):
you remember that feeling where if you left Manhattan even
for a second, you feel like you fell off the
edge of the earth. And the other girl's like, oh god,
don't remind me. The shade is so real. I relate
to that feeling growing up when when I left Atlantic City,
I did not want to leave Atlantic City compared to
the whole county in New Jersey.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
So I get it. It's just nas shady. I just
want to appreciate.

Speaker 3 (16:13):
Oh god, don't remind me of those It's like, I'm
so far removed.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
I'm so much better than that. It's just so it's
so unnecessary, so unnecessary.

Speaker 5 (16:21):
Very condescending, very much so.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
Just then char walks in with her fabulous gift. It's
a Billini baby basket, and she gets the warmest welcome, like,
oh my god, the baby basket, and Sam just a
woman of our hearts. She's like, I'm gonna have a
big drink.

Speaker 5 (16:40):
Jealous.

Speaker 3 (16:41):
They are the worst as she hands her the bottle
of scotch she gifted her.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
And so it's jealous to it, right.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
But you know they really shouldn't have gone to this
baby shower, like it seems like they hadn't spoken for years. Right,
So if a friend wandomly invites you to a baby shower,
and this is a friend you probably haven't spoken to
in five to ten years, would you go?

Speaker 4 (17:00):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (17:01):
I probably would go. If I have my three girlfriends
going with me to I'm not gonna forgive me lie.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
No, I'm not gonna runs money if.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
Gods carry alone. No, but you got a crew.

Speaker 3 (17:15):
I just don't get off on talking ship like I don't.
I don't get off on it. I don't feel good
about it. It's not it's not my it's not my thing.
It's not my thing. But you with the right group
of girls, I can see the lafta. But at that moment,
after Sam asked her she's jealous, she's like, she still
it's so sad.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
Oh my god, Like the second she walks, I just
the whole room is just messy. Immediately, in Normo's words, Now.

Speaker 3 (17:41):
What does she say about lady and Sam? They have
the spincer between them. They're both the rivalry, the deep
rooted rivalry. But I'm just not comfortable with you talking
about my friend in front of me, especially if I
don't like you.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
It's just not a thing.

Speaker 3 (17:55):
I'm a defensive I defend my friends, I defend my
loved ones.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
What you're not gonna do pregnant and all.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
Bitch, you reach an age where you the same way.
You should be selective of the men you're dating. You
should be selective of the friends you choose, right because
you don't need that bad juju within your closed circles.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
Word and I would hate for somebody to bring that
energy to my baby shower, Like that's not a thing
because I just want to do it to somebody else.
But Laney then takes carry and Miranda into the room
and she introduces them to everyone. It's a bunch of
moms and people trying to become moms. One of the
mom and sons. They're so inseparable, the group inseparable. The
group jokes that they're like an old married couple, and

(18:36):
Miranda's like, so, if I wanted to meet the perfect man,
I just have to give birth to him, which is
I do think it's weird when moms do that have
that like relationship with their son.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
Kind of but who am I? I do I have
any kids.

Speaker 3 (18:49):
But the lady did say it's not so funny to
say that now that her and her husband are getting divorced.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
And I just wonder, is that a reason? Why did
you get more attention to your to your baby than
you know, your hills.

Speaker 3 (19:00):
So there was somebody in the room who was getting
a divorce that was close to their son. Yeah, they
said Lane. Laney was introducing them to the group and
the girls in the group was in separate were her.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
Son, and then Laney said they're getting a divorce the husband.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
They used to say that they're the old married couple,
but it's not so funny to say that now that
she's getting a divorce.

Speaker 5 (19:19):
I think it's creepy.

Speaker 1 (19:20):
I think these are the kind of men who grew
up to be like Mama's boy and really constantly include
their mom in the relationship, and you know, it's problematic.

Speaker 3 (19:32):
I think it's a fine balance. I know I mentioned
this in the earlier episode, that it's a compliment if
your son brings home a woman that resembles you that
I don't know that looks like you like your culture,
your being because I believe that a mother is probably
the first person, first woman that he loves, and that
bond is something that can teach you healthy relationships amongst
other women. I know we can agree to disagree on that,

(19:55):
but also I feel like that some women make the
mistake of putting their child first and pouring all into
their child, and they do neglect the marriage. So I
can see why you know, I don't know, we don't
know the story, but why this person may be getting
a divorce. Yeah, yeah, it's It's definitely somewhere I jumped.
But based off the clues, they're opening gifts in the

(20:15):
next scene and Charlotte is all in the mix and
loving it.

Speaker 5 (20:19):
This girl has a bow in her head.

Speaker 2 (20:22):
Charlotte crazy, but this one there, yea, she really is
the friend that you should.

Speaker 3 (20:26):
Have invited, Miranda. She confirms that her call theory must
be trilled. They already got Charlotte. We can't separate once
we isolate. It's Ova, That's what she told Carrie. Carry
is like, I gotta go to the bathroom. But in
her head, she's like.

Speaker 6 (20:42):
Because I watched Lady Tar open a terry cloth baby
bib with the same enthusiasm she once reserved for tearing
off Rockstar's pants. I couldn't help but wonder.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
What was I next bit you wish? This girl? This girl, yo,
she's seven days on her period. This is the nineties.
What that mean? I just know girls that every chance
they get I'm pregnant. I'm pregnant. I'm pregnant.

Speaker 3 (21:08):
Carrie's not that carry is ubsessed that she is a
big That's what it's giving.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
Mm hmm, Yeah, was I next bitch you wish? So
she goes to the bathroom and get away.

Speaker 3 (21:21):
Charle's like. Miranda is like, if you don't come back
in five minutes, I'm coming for you. The party turned into.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
A preview of a life she didn't know she was
ready for.

Speaker 3 (21:29):
He sees his beautiful pregnant picture of Lanny and she's like,
even during pregnancy, Lanny can't keep her clothes on A
piece of old Lady survived, and she wondered what the
other mommies downstairs were burying within themselves.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
We go downstairs.

Speaker 4 (21:44):
Before I married my husband, I slept around with everybody.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
Now I have an internet lover. No one knows when.

Speaker 6 (21:52):
I've senior vice president. Two hundred and twelve feet were
reported to me on a daily basis. Now I just
yell at the garden, understand the single word. I'm exactly
the same.

Speaker 5 (22:03):
I love my.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
Life, but every now and then I can't help but
think about.

Speaker 4 (22:11):
Sometimes I climb up into the kid's treehouse with my walkman,
light up and joint.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
I listen to Peter Proton.

Speaker 3 (22:21):
So, you know, although these mothers are moms, they have
past lives, they have current lives. They're still living their
lives very much while being a mom, And I think
it kind of argues against the point that our girls
were trying to make earlier as far as them being
in occult and losing themselves and only caring and doing
the same things like now I go to the treehouse
and smoke.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
Nah, I got an Internet lover.

Speaker 3 (22:39):
It's given shame though, it's given like I have to Hi,
I can't be authentically myself, I can't be all in
you know.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:48):
I feel like they're they're being painted as very unhappy
in their marriages.

Speaker 5 (22:52):
Yeah yeah, And.

Speaker 1 (22:54):
I feel like you could be married with kids and
be happy.

Speaker 3 (23:00):
Hopefully Yeah, because they're given that they're not that I
have to hide something attached to something.

Speaker 1 (23:05):
Yeah, and is it because they chose to get married
and become stay at home moms, and you know, they
basically have to give up their careers. And I feel
like that's not the only option for women who want
to have the family and the career.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
Too. True, that's very true. Yeah, it did. Carrie goes
back to the party.

Speaker 3 (23:27):
She finds Miranda, who's outside drinking, and Carrie tells her
there's a woman inside breastfeeding a child who can choose
a steak.

Speaker 2 (23:34):
And I heard breastfeeding hurts like a mother.

Speaker 3 (23:37):
I couldn't imagine, Miranda says my saying, I say, if
you can ask for it, then you're probably too old
to have it.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
Just before Carrie gets hit in the head with a ball.

Speaker 3 (23:46):
And Mom's like, I'm sorry, Like I don't know if
she also did a kid or says she's sorry to
carry But.

Speaker 2 (23:51):
Yep, that's what it's like. That's real, that's real. Miranda
took the time to defend the witch and handling Gretel.

Speaker 4 (23:56):
I just realized maybe it's maturity or the wisdom that
comes with age, but the witch and hansling Gretel, she's
very misunderstood. I mean, the woman builds her dream house
and these brands come along and start eating it.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
She's a lawyer. She makes a great point, justice for
the Witch and Hansel and Gretel.

Speaker 3 (24:17):
Yeah, these days the villains are getting their story, you know,
like my lefecent. So I could see that being like
a new villain that gets their side of the story.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
Told I also want a villain to stay a villain.

Speaker 3 (24:27):
But me too, I felt that one hundred percent as
a child growing up with the opposing story. But I
will say we were at Sea World for Thanksgiving this
past year and these kids just hopping around, bopping about
like we were so annoyed, we were so overstimulated.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
Like it was a lot stiff.

Speaker 3 (24:44):
One of these kids bumped me one more time, like
it was just so much going on.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
It was a lot going on. And then we're rushing
to the car and I was just trying so hard
to get away from this one family who was just
so loud, and you know, you try to ditch and
dodge and whatever. Turns out they're parked in the car
right next to us. What the hell, man, I can
escape you and.

Speaker 3 (25:03):
You can literally hear the footsteps getting closer as you
walked faster and faster.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
It was crazy.

Speaker 3 (25:08):
It was in our head, I'm sure, because it was
a long ass day. But kids are overstimulating.

Speaker 1 (25:13):
Mm hmm. I think I've experienced that in the movies. Yeah,
the movies, and I've been that kid in the movies.

Speaker 2 (25:22):
We got told we had no movie etiquette, ye from there,
and we didn't.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
She was right.

Speaker 2 (25:26):
We were offended in the moment, but damn it as a.

Speaker 5 (25:29):
Dang someone called you out on that.

Speaker 2 (25:30):
Yeah, the other movie. She turned around and said, you
girls need to learn movie etiquette.

Speaker 6 (25:34):
He was right.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
She was right.

Speaker 1 (25:37):
You know, growing up in South Central you knew you
couldn't go to the Magic Johnson Theaters because that show
was wild. No, no movie etiquette at all.

Speaker 4 (25:47):
No.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
Once I went a couple of times, never learned my
lesson until I finally went to go see the Amityville
Horror back in though. No them kids too much at.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
How Charlotte is still very complimentary of Laney. I love
your house. This is I just got to tell you
how gorgeous your house is. Shady ass. Laney's like, thank you.

Speaker 6 (26:09):
I know it's a big change, but at some point
you have to get serious and settle down.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
I mean, life is not a Jacqueline Suzanne novel.

Speaker 4 (26:17):
Four friends looking for life and love in the big City.

Speaker 2 (26:20):
Not four friends that the direct.

Speaker 5 (26:23):
Shade of it all direct attack?

Speaker 2 (26:25):
What did Kendrick say he.

Speaker 3 (26:26):
Hates when Drake sneak dishes, if he catches flight, it's
gonna be direct.

Speaker 2 (26:30):
And that's exactly what Laney did. I mean it was
it was direct, bitch. Four friends living in land and
anything like.

Speaker 3 (26:37):
Didn't you find that bitch anyway? Laney tries to start cleaning,
and Charlotte's like, ah, you're not going to clean at
your own shower, And I just wouldn't after the shade, like, yeah, bitch, clean,
I probably like, drop my cup a little bit, spill
a little red wine on your couch, But that's just me.
Another friend's like, yeah, girl, relaxes. Once totter Shala comes around,

(26:59):
you'll never stop. Charlotte looks at Laney real crazy and
she's like, you just said, Sheila.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
She can't say it like that. That's how she said
in my head, and the other friends like, I know,
isn't it such a unique name.

Speaker 3 (27:12):
Charlotte's like, it's my name. It's my secret baby name
that she had since she was eleven. Laney's like, mmm,
does it? You could just see the shade on her
face at that bar. I don't remember, and Carrie narrates
like that was a complete lie. They all remembered Charle
made them promised not to take it, and Lane's like,

(27:32):
I think my husband heard it somewhere. Charlotte's like, hmm,
that's weird because I didn't tell them. They guess let
her like crazy, Like what are you getting's upset for?

Speaker 2 (27:42):
It's just the name. Calmed down, you aren't even pregnant.
That's not the point. What's going on?

Speaker 6 (27:49):
She stole my baby name, you bitch.

Speaker 2 (27:54):
Let's go.

Speaker 3 (27:55):
Sam is so the best friend that you want, honestly,
and I think she was the most hated character in
the nineties, But that's the kind of friend you need.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
Ride or die. Talk about direct flight. Okay, that's a
direct flight.

Speaker 3 (28:09):
That's a direct flight right there. Charlotte and Sam walk out.
In the next scene, the girls are having drinks at
a bar. Charlotte's blaming herself for how long she waited
to have a baby, and Carrie is like, listen, you're
still young. You got plenty of time. Charlie's like, no,
I don't. I don't want to be a forty year
old mom.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
And they'll Takamantha like no offense, and Samantha's like, girl,
which is what you mean? Offense?

Speaker 3 (28:32):
I don't want to be a forty year old mom either.
I ain't got no eggs frozen in my freezer, okay.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
And Miranda's like, that's.

Speaker 4 (28:38):
Why I hate baby showers, always feeling depressed. Chatty another round, Well,
I s one, love.

Speaker 6 (28:46):
My life and I will not be made to feel
an adequate by all.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
This baby talk.

Speaker 3 (28:50):
And I think this was very progressive for the nineties.
I think again it was very value to get married,
have the kids. That's all women were expected to want
out of life. And these girls like, nah, I'm not
gonna be made to feel inadequate because I don't got
that and I don't want that for myself. Whether it's
coming from a secure or insecure place, it just needed
to be stated for the woman that really feel that way,
you know, One time for the two on twos. Yeah yeah,

(29:11):
so it's one time for the two one twos.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
It sounded really make that up. I heard of.

Speaker 3 (29:24):
Branda spoke to a woman with a master's in finance,
and she's like, she only wanted to talk about her diaper.
Genie Carrie's like, well, you don't have to lose yourself.
I know plenty of cool hips moms who live in
the city and still have great careers and stuff. And
they're like who, And then she's like, I'm late, I
missed my period and they're like, where's our drinks? Samantha

(29:47):
orders another round, though, like bitch, fuck this baby. Do
we know anyone who became a mom and didn't change?

Speaker 2 (29:57):
I mean, I think I have friends that didn't change.

Speaker 3 (29:59):
I mean, obviously you have the time split up, but
that happens in adult ships anyway. But as far as
your personality, yeah, no, it's still the same.

Speaker 1 (30:05):
Yeah, And I think it really does depend on what
kind of partner you choose, Like and you having a
supportive partner who actually fathers and his hands on, I
feel like you can make it work.

Speaker 5 (30:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
Yeah, need that.

Speaker 3 (30:21):
And after she did order the drinks, Samantha did and
Miranda did give carry the conversation that she needed and deserved.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
Allen just cute. Seven days Oh honey, Gray Area, True,
you were in front of the firing squad, but you
haven't been shot.

Speaker 3 (30:39):
And Miranda's like, hey, it's fine, I was ten days late.
Once Carrie's like, were you having sex?

Speaker 2 (30:46):
Nah? No, I wasn't.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
Why did I feel like she was talking to me
at that moment?

Speaker 3 (30:53):
Word Miranda asks, are you gonna tell mister Big? And
Carrie's like, now until I done how to finish that sentence?
So she doesn't even know what she's gonna say to
mister Biggs. She doesn't even know what's to herself. And
when Shark comes back, like, hey, what are you guys
talking about?

Speaker 2 (31:08):
Throw all like nothing right want to.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
Because they already know what she's gonna say.

Speaker 2 (31:17):
Keep the baby, I'm gonna go buy a Genie all
that stuff we shouldn't be drinking. I know right, She's
that girl.

Speaker 3 (31:24):
That night, Charlotte got out her wish box of all
the things she hoped for in life, a gift for Syla,
a townhouse in the city, a beach house in East Hampton,
her dream man, her backup dream man. She rips it
all up and Carrie narrates the streams that when the
life you never had flashes before your eyes and that's real,

(31:45):
I mean, shout out to the manifesting tactics. But yeah,
that kind of sucks having to go to your box and.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
Throw it all the way or whatever. Yeah, wishbox be anything,
your journal, Yeah, vision board, vision board, all that, all that.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
It kind of inspired me to make a wish box.
Let's make it happen, Let's do it. Yes, Little Bondi.

Speaker 3 (32:10):
Activities Cayla Carrie still eight days late. When her Miranda
they stop and get some pregnancy tests. They pick up
first response and some condoms, and that's when Carrie just
starts freaking out.

Speaker 6 (32:25):
I don't think I'd be very good at this. I mean,
am I maternal? You know when I was a little girl,
I left my favorite baby doll out in the rain
for four days. Her face peeled off.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
It can't be good.

Speaker 4 (32:38):
But I mean, if you shave my Barbie's head when I.

Speaker 3 (32:40):
Was mad at her, and Miranda's being supportive and a
great friend, and then she's like, well, hey, listen, it's okay, Carrie.
When I was younger, I put a rubber band around
my dog's snout.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
Carry was like, what the fuck did you do? Animal?
It was so funny.

Speaker 3 (33:00):
Then she's like, can you picture us with babies? Rand
Is like, listen, I'll probably have five, which is really
funny cause she's kind of like, well, she was the
first one. I have the spoiler alert, Yeah, she was
the first one. But anyway, Carrie goes home and decides
she can't take the test until she figures out exactly
how she'll feel about the results. And just then the
phone rings and it's Lady. She's like, sorry, I was

(33:22):
a bit just the hormones.

Speaker 2 (33:24):
Carry's like, truth was.

Speaker 3 (33:25):
She's her hormones been raging since she was ten, so
I guess she's always been a bitch. She's like seeing
them reminded her of how much fun they used to have.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
Yeah, we did. It's amazing how much time has gone by.
Tell me about it. But I miss us, I really do.
We should get together more often.

Speaker 4 (33:40):
But I mean we should get together and not just
say we're going to, but really do it.

Speaker 6 (33:45):
Absolutely listen, I've got to go.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
I'm running late. Where are you up to?

Speaker 6 (33:49):
Actually, Samantha's having one of her parties.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
She is, yeah, oh man, see that's the kind of thing.
I love. Samantha's party.

Speaker 6 (33:57):
Why didn't you tell me next time?

Speaker 2 (33:59):
I promise?

Speaker 6 (33:59):
All right, Okay, bye?

Speaker 3 (34:02):
At least Carrie wasn't too fake in that moment, you know,
she wasn't all like, oh yeah, come, I miss you too, girl,
we gotta hang out.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
She's like, yeah, yeah, I appreciate that. I feel like
carry it's pretty real. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (34:12):
I feel like Miranda and Sam were being more fake
with the baby shower energy compared to Carrie. That's true,
that's true. Sam through an, I don't have a baby shower.
Everybody drink.

Speaker 2 (34:23):
You gotta love.

Speaker 3 (34:24):
Samantha, Miranda cooking up with Ed. Sam's accounting on the couch,
and Sam's like, if she f's on that couch, she
buys it. Laney walks in at that very moment, squealing,
and the girls looked at her less than enthused.

Speaker 2 (34:38):
What are you doing here? When I do best funny?

Speaker 6 (34:42):
Maybe we better sit down. Somebody give me a drink.

Speaker 3 (34:47):
So Landy wants to come in, she wants to turn up.
She's just like, oh, Lany, get me a drink. They're like, girl,
a drink. You're pregnant. She's like, listen, I'm doing any
day now. What's one drink gonna do? Maybe it'll helped
me go into labor. Sam's like, if she gets worth
on that couch, she buys it. When Charlotte sees her,
she catches another direct flight. She's like, what's she doing here?

(35:08):
Lanny's like, I missed you, guys us the.

Speaker 6 (35:10):
Pathetic lived for the moment, New York single girls who
thinks that life's Jacquelin's She said, novel.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
So Charlotte didn't up?

Speaker 3 (35:18):
Yes she did, Yes she did, and you know she
played it so classically, cleaning up after. I'm not sure
Charlotte knew what was going on there, but Charlotte repeated it,
remember the word for word after.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
Okay, you, miss us. I like to see this side
of Charlotte.

Speaker 3 (35:31):
You better turn up shar Landy's like, I'm sure you
get asked this all the time, but what is your problem?

Speaker 2 (35:37):
What a bitch? Landy's crazy, I'm sure you geess this
all the time.

Speaker 3 (35:42):
She's like, I had a dream and you killed it
in a nutshell. Lanny says, well, you're lucky because at
least you know what happened to your dreams. I don't
know what happened to mine.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
Girl.

Speaker 3 (35:52):
What that's like, no excuse, no accountability, just the fakeness
of it all, the fakeness of it all. This episode,
she should have been called the fake instead of the
baby shower.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
Ryana gives the idea that she's not really that happy
in her marriage or about having the car's.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
Not She's not. Yeah, I think that that's a given.

Speaker 3 (36:10):
Carrie keeps the Charlotte away from Laney and Laney away
from the vodka for the next hour. When she runs
into Miranda, who finally came up for air, Miranda's like,
Ed was a good kisser and he's gonna do my
taxes for free.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
That's the kind of guys you need to make out with.

Speaker 3 (36:25):
Just then, Jonathan Bicks, a trader for Bear Stearns who
just closed escrow on a house in the Hamptons, comes up.
He's interested in Charlotte. He's like, yo, Carrie is Charlotte single.
She's like, yeah, go for it. And when Charlotte sees him,
she realizes that all is not lost. She sipped her
beerd and then mentally scotch taped her dreams back together again.

Speaker 2 (36:47):
And it just takes one little cutie but duty make
everything feel better again. Okay. He not like being in
love or lest or having fun for a little while.
You just see your best self at those times. I'm
gonna stand on now. I'm ana die on that mountain.
Laney's all crazy still, She's like, this party sucks. Harry's like,
we gotta get you home. I'll take a look, Landy, Landy,

(37:10):
come on.

Speaker 3 (37:10):
She comes back alas the crowd is just looking at
her like that you're watching a car crash.

Speaker 2 (37:17):
Nobody's like yeah, He's like, I guess you could show.
I'll take a look. So embarrassing.

Speaker 3 (37:22):
I have the secondhand embarrassment, just like, let that life
goes okay at least wait till you pop the baby out?

Speaker 2 (37:28):
What are we doing? Anybody's been? Laney screams, pregnant woman
showing her tents.

Speaker 3 (37:35):
The crowd is still just like yeah, what the hell?
And Sam, she's loving it. She's like, it's like.

Speaker 4 (37:41):
One so sad and the most fabulous validation I've ever
gotten in my life.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
And I get that. It's nice to see the person
you hate just go down in flames. They threw at
each other. I guess Sam wins check mate.

Speaker 3 (37:56):
Lanny's struggling to take her top off before She's like,
I can't, I can't do this, I can't do it,
and no One's like, oh man, nobody cares. They're like,
all right, back to the party, and they just turn
around and go back to, you know, doing what they
were doing. Our girls, though, they comfort her, which is
very nice because I'd be like, m you embarrassing.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
But Carrie says, despite her best efforts to run free,
it appeared.

Speaker 6 (38:19):
That Landy Berlin's invisible electric fence stretched all the way
to Manhattan.

Speaker 3 (38:24):
Landy still wants to push herself to do it, and
she's begging for another chance. Carrie is like, girl, it's
all right, it's just not who you are anymore.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
It's okay. Landy's like, no one told me this was
gonna happen. Nobody warned her. They should have warned her. Yeah,
I can say. I know.

Speaker 3 (38:39):
I asked earlier, like do you know any moms who
say the same. But I think the consistent message is
you change, You're a different person. There's no way to
predict the person that you're gonna become after you have
the baby, because pre kid, your whole life revolves around you.
Who knows what the pregnancy journey's like, and then postkit,
your whole life revolves.

Speaker 2 (38:58):
Around another person. So yeah, I don't know, consider yourself.
We'ren Lannie. Lannie says, one day, you're gonna wake up
and you know, can recognize herself. Damn, that's scary. That's
a scary reality. Real shit. I think that's what postpartum is.

Speaker 3 (39:15):
But I don't know, and I do think that, you know,
she was like to a normous point earlier, she was
like screaming like I don't want to go back, Like
I don't want to leave, you know. So I think
she is unhappy in her marriage, with her new life
in Connecticut. It just isn't aligned with who she once was,
and she struggling and just find that balance with who
she is now and letting that old self go, which
you know, granted, nobody here has had children, but I'm
sure we've all been through phases where we had a

(39:36):
lot of version of ourself go and find room for
this new version of ourselves.

Speaker 5 (39:40):
Definitely.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
Yeah, Carrie puts her in a cab and sends her
to Connecticut, and then the next day she spends sitting
on a park bench and watching children play, which if
she was a man that would be super creepy, I guess,
but women had that's the privilege of being a woman.
I guess. Yeah, she's thinking to herself, if I had to,
could I do this.

Speaker 6 (40:00):
Good? But I somehow managed to stay mean.

Speaker 3 (40:03):
And after all that pondering and all that time at
the park watching other people's kids, she got a period
on the walk home. Never had to talk to book
never never, you know, was pregnant. So yeah, good for trauma.
Unnecessary conversation. Girls, take the test before you start talking
to people.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
Gusts.

Speaker 3 (40:21):
All right, now it's time to get into the cringiest moments.

Speaker 4 (40:25):
Ruh.

Speaker 3 (40:29):
The first one is pregnant Laney showing up uninvited to
Samantha's party, wanting to drink and show her tits like
just nothing attractive.

Speaker 2 (40:39):
There's nothing attractive about that.

Speaker 3 (40:41):
The next one is Laney using Charlotte's baby name and
Samantha calling her a bitch who calls a pregnant woman
a bitch of their own baby shower. As much as
I love Sammy Joe for that moment, it's just not
the right time. And then Lady was real messed up
for taking Charlotte's baby name and just not owning up
to it. The next moment is uh, the girl and
ladies just fake friendship, throwing shades, taking shots every chance

(41:04):
they get just back and forth, boot boot boot, back
to the last moment. I mean, you just don't want
those kind of friends in your life. If that's the energy,
let's just not even be around it. You gotta be
more selective with the people you choose to keep around you.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
Yeah, I'm gonna have to Ooh, I don't. I'm torn.

Speaker 3 (41:18):
I'm tore between her taking out of tits at the
party because everybody's reaction was super ah.

Speaker 2 (41:24):
But then also the relationship between the girls. We're cringe.
But I'm gonna go with the titties at the party.

Speaker 5 (41:28):
Titties at the party, titties at the party.

Speaker 2 (41:30):
Oh, that's our cringe moment.

Speaker 3 (41:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (41:32):
I would have never thought I would have set that.
Titties at a party are cringe. Yeah, just when you're pregnant.
And I don't mean to be judgmental. I just don't
know a pregnant woman that will do that.

Speaker 2 (41:41):
I think it's a it's an automatic feeling of sadness.

Speaker 3 (41:43):
You feel bad for her, you feel bad for the kids,
like this isn't this isn't what you want.

Speaker 2 (41:47):
You'll be cute, You're cry for help.

Speaker 1 (41:50):
That's loneliness, sadness, nothing sexy.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
About it. You just feel sad?

Speaker 5 (41:57):
Yeah it ruh.

Speaker 1 (42:01):
Okay, let's do sex and Social Media at Riley c
A eight six three seven six three eight eight. I
love mister Big in season one of Sex and City.
What do you mean he turns into an evil man?

Speaker 5 (42:16):
Keep watching?

Speaker 2 (42:16):
Did she did he watch episode whatever?

Speaker 3 (42:19):
He was making out with bitches at a party right
in front of Carry's face.

Speaker 2 (42:22):
He out whatever. All right, that's the way I tell.

Speaker 5 (42:26):
It, Riley, right, Riley Big.

Speaker 2 (42:29):
Yet I'm mad at him because Carrie just as crazy.
Get out of here immediately. No.

Speaker 1 (42:37):
At Sex and the City Daily, meet my thirty two
year old friends when they are planning on texting that
guy with red flags. If you were twenty five, that
would be adorable, but you're thirty two now, so that's
just stupid.

Speaker 2 (42:51):
Damn, damn, damn, damn damn.

Speaker 5 (42:57):
All yeah.

Speaker 1 (42:59):
At Sex and the City underscore daily, non stop thinking
about this Charlotte quote whilst I navigate all the drama.
But I don't want to skip all the drama.

Speaker 5 (43:10):
That's life.

Speaker 2 (43:12):
Gotta go through it her.

Speaker 3 (43:15):
If you have any tweets or anything you want to
add to the episodes, please hit us up at Sex
and the City of Angels and make sure to follow
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Speaker 2 (43:30):
We'll see you next time.

Speaker 5 (43:31):
Bye,
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