June 11, 2025 • 43 mins
Carrie has a birthday and makes it about Big. Sam tells the ugly truth. Miranda has an awakening. Charolette has a new man. We get into it all. Listen as we break down Season 2 Episode 2, The Awful Truth.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is Sex in the City of Angels podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Welcome back to Sex in the City of angel This
is an episode too.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Oh I love you guys. Some of a great tea back,
so great tea back. And we just covered season two,
episode one, so if you missed it, go back check
it out because we're doing this episode by episode. We
made it to the Awful Truth and God, youth was awful. Child,
The truth was awful. After the classic intro, we meet
(00:49):
Susan Sharon and she's the East Coast Rep. Shouts to
the East Coast for an Italian Kashmir sportswear.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Two years ago, married a very mean, mean me. What
did I tell you about listening to my CDs? Natalie and.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
You too?
Speaker 2 (01:11):
That man is gonna die early.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
You can't walk around wife getting like that. You were
gonna get six sir, heart attack waiting app Okay, But
now Carrie only sees her once or twice a year,
and it's usually when her man is out of town.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
And that's how it happens. When your friends get married, you.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Know, they just they just go with their man and whatever,
We love you bye. They're walking down the street and
they're having this cute She's sharing a story with Carrie,
and she's like takes Carry's cigarette and Carry's like trying
to get it back, and she just keeps puffing it
telling her story. She's ignoring Carrie, and she invites her
up to her apartment, like, hey, I gotta get for
you for your birthday. So they go back to Susan's
(01:51):
apartment and she's like, you just gotta be quiet because
Richard sleep.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
She gives her a box.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
It's a beautiful cashmere scarf, and Carrie's like, oh my god,
I love it. She's like, yeah, that goes for like
eight hundred dollars at bar and she's like, oh, yeah,
you mind if I sell it because.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
I can really use cash.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
They're like, oh, that's why they call it cash mirror.
Cute little joke, but the laughter woke up her husband.
He was going on, I'm sorry, honey, but Carrie had
this idea about return.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
What's our agreement about visitors at for nine pm?
Speaker 2 (02:22):
I know it's just that it's her time that is
so uncomfortable. Yeah, he crashed out. That was crazy.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
If you know your man's gonna like react that way,
don't have me around.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Exactly, because now I'm getting cursed out. That's not my husband.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Go out, goes celebrate her birthday outside or like yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Bring her, bring her the box and the cashmere sweater downstairs,
Like I don't want to ever be talked to.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
That was very unnecessary.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Yeah, never let me in that position.
Speaker 6 (02:51):
We're telling them to shut the fuck up.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
No.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Yeah, well Carrie did grab her all of her stuff,
and as she was walking out, she said good night, grumpy,
like get out.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
She was like, oh my, crack me up. So she
walks out.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
The couple so yelling at each other, and she's like,
I wonder if this is like it's really that bad
or is this.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Some kind of foreplay for them?
Speaker 3 (03:14):
And if so, I was like a tool that just
got it started on a on a little you know,
they little nasty John Let Susan call it Carrie, Like
I'm so sorry, I'm so embarrassed. Like Carrie's like, it's okay,
it happens. He's probably just grumpy.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
She's like, no, he's like this all the time, Like
you don't even believe it. She asked me.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
She's ready to leave them, So she asked Carrie, what
would you do? Carrie's like, if it didn't change, I'd
leave them. She's like, so you're saying I leave them.
She's like, well, if you're not happy, leave them. So
she's having lunch with her girls and they have some
opinions the next day.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
Telling a friend to leave her husband is something you
just don't do.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
If she does break up with him, it's your fault.
Speaker 7 (03:50):
If she doesn't break up with them, she knows that
you think that she should, and therefore.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Can never speak to you again.
Speaker 7 (03:55):
Either way, you're screwed, which is a shame because there
goes your cash mirror connection.
Speaker 6 (04:00):
I agree.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
You don't get in married folks business. Married folks business,
you're always gonna lose how much?
Speaker 5 (04:06):
Always?
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Yeah, and not even marry folks. Any relationship you're gonna lose.
Speaker 5 (04:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
I'm like, I don't know, girl, it's it's up to you.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Well, Cari was like, I was caught off guard. I
got yelled at and screamed out of the apartment.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
I'm tired. I don't know. But then YE had me.
She's like, you know what, Yeah, I said too much.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
And Charlotte's like, wait, in an intimate relationship, you should
be able to say anything to your to the person
that you're you know, intimate with right, But Samantha highly disagrees.
Speaker 7 (04:37):
Practically all the relationships I know are based on a
foundation of lies and mutually accepted delusion.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
That's real.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Yeah, what a lot of people are getting into relationships
without having true conversations about what's real. It's all based
on physical attraction, delusion potential. Would you believe this person
to be I believe that no one's having real lass conversations.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Well, I do.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
I do think that a lot of people are moving
that way. But I agree with Charlotte. I think that
intimate relationship, you should be able to be comfortable enough
to say what you want to say.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
Should I should?
Speaker 5 (05:10):
Right?
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Yes, yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
But for for Samantha, although that is how a lot
of a lot of relationships are operating these days, I
don't think that that's, you know, right. So for Samantha,
I highly disagree and then be like all my relationships
are delusional. It's like ooh, no, no, I don't think
Samantha is us saying that that's how it should be.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
That's just what it is.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Can we also point out that that's like I feel
like that's domestic violence already, right, It's not like that verbal.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Abuse between that. Yeah, that was wild. Yeah, that's extreme.
I won't be able to do it. It's abusive. Yeah,
it's toxic and it's unhealthy.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Yes, yes, yeah, And I think New Yorkers do have
a more aggressive tone, but that is like next level disrespectful.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Yeah yeah, and when and when uh.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Samantha says that all of her intimate relationships have a
healthy delusion. Her friend's facial expressions look like really uncomfortable,
like like I don't know if intimate relationships in this
context is including friendships, but it's like, what are you
not saying to me?
Speaker 2 (06:15):
You know, I didn't notice that. Yeah, I noticed Charlotte's face.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
She was like, yeah, but this is coming from Samantha
who's not really dating and dating for relationship.
Speaker 6 (06:25):
And she's in a delusional relationship exactly because she's.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Right, right, right, and that's what she said.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
She's like with James, I pretend he doesn't have a
small dick, and he pretends to not notice that we
haven't had sex in three weeks, rappy like no, no,
you're not no, But Miranda, she's like, I'm in an
intimate relationship. She met a dermatologist at at a Vietnamese
food truck. Nice right at work, right at her building.
(06:54):
They really be bagging these you know, the exactly exactly.
But this guy, he likes to talk a lot.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
He likes suck real dirty in the bedroom.
Speaker 5 (07:06):
Because your beautiful feels unbelievably sexy, so hard, nasty. How
does it feel.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
What you said?
Speaker 3 (07:19):
So she's really uncomfortable because she can't reciprocate the conversation
because you know, dirty talk is nice personally, you know,
but you gotta be able to reciprocate her else it's
just awkward. I know, I really love, I love, but
you got you gotta find the right vibe where it
can come off so wrong.
Speaker 6 (07:42):
Yeah, I love it when they whispered.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
In my ears.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
My subtitle asked, like what I can't hear for ship?
I can't hear for ship, and people be whispering in
the badroom, like what you say?
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Yeah, the same thing. I'm like, huh right, right? I
think he said to round, how you doing come here?
But that's the problem. Miranda can't reciprocated. That's she's just
like what you said. But Charlotte, she has all the advice.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
She's like, girl, just compliment his huge cock Samantha's like,
big beautiful cock.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Let me just say I hate the word cock.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Like nobody says, I mean, none of my people say that,
you know, I mean not none that I know or
hang out with, no one. I won't say that, we
say do it, but anyway, neither hear nor that. Miranda's like,
I can't use an adjectives, and Carrie's like, all right,
so just say you know you're so hard, you're so hard.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
That works well enough.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Charlotte starts giving examples of more things she could say.
Our girl, Charlotte, Yes, that's right.
Speaker 5 (08:42):
Uh huh, don't stop. Just like that, come on, fuck her,
don't stop.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
And that's a clear example of what you can say it.
Carries like, Miranda, are you just completely mute during sex?
Miranda's like, no, I can give a good I'm about
to come. I'm about to come, but that's only because
I'm about to come. I don't know what else to
say outside of that.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
I felt, Miranda, guys, I feel Veranda. I like it.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
I don't always do it, and that's that's the only
thing I do say, if anything, sometimes not sound like mute.
But I don't talk that much. But I do want
to I want to talk more.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
What stops you? I'm just in my own way, me
in my head.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Do you feel like you're gonna sound stupid if you say.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Yeah, that gonna come out right?
Speaker 1 (09:28):
I think it really depends on like how much I
know the person, and it's also depending on the situation, right,
Like I can't fake being overly. If I'm into it,
I'll say stuff.
Speaker 6 (09:44):
But if it's not working out.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
I think that's what Miranda said too, Like it's like
acting or it's not real. I believe.
Speaker 6 (09:49):
Yeah, I feel like that's.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
It.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Yeah, I agree. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Carrie asked, did we put such a premium on being
open and honest with each other? Are there certain things
in a relationship that one should never say?
Speaker 2 (10:05):
We go to New Street. My best friend just got engaged.
Speaker 6 (10:09):
To the biggest loser I've ever met.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
What am I supposed to tell her?
Speaker 2 (10:12):
You're marrying an imbecile? My wife? She said, A rest
done twice.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
They look fantastic, they feel like shit. I keep that
thought to myself.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
I'm a single, thirty eight year old woman still hoping.
Speaker 5 (10:24):
To get married.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
I don't want to know the truth.
Speaker 7 (10:27):
I told Richard I couldn't spend another day married to
a man who behaves like an utter.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Asshole, and that's Susan. She's done with Richard. I guess
she said carry advice exactly.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
She left the man. Do you think there are certain
things you should ever say?
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Yeah, it was kind of like our good friend John
Sally said. He said, like, there's certain things you just
shouldn't say, and then honesty without compassion is brutality.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Yeahding you should never say.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
He did say something, he said. I don't know the
context of what we were talking about, but the message
was some things are better left and.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Said, okay, all right.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Well, Susan left Richard, like she confirmed at the end,
and they said some awful things to each other. She
said this, then he said that, she said this, He
said that. But the final blow was he said, I'll
be married within a year. You you're going to be
single forever. That's abuse, car Elliott.
Speaker 6 (11:23):
Is it borderline narcissistic? Is it borderline?
Speaker 2 (11:25):
What is it? Do you tell us? My clinical opinion.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Support narcissism, But I'm just saying that everybody's narcissist.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
I don't really know.
Speaker 6 (11:39):
He crazy, he crazy, adding intotal injury, honestly, and I.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Think that it's even words that Carrie, a woman says
like I didn't want to tell Susan, but he was
probably right with that last statement that.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
She's not gonna get married again. He'll be the year
because he's rich and available and single.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
Now, I mean she's worked right, takes his money.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Well, she has her own money, but she don't want
to take on the sugar papa. It's easy to get
baby or whatever.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
And I'm saying like, she has money because of like
half when they get divorced, But.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
What's she gonna do with that money? That don't mean
she's a You know, when you are a woman with money,
you might want to hide that from people, say advantage
of you. Whereas if you're a man with money, you
you're more likely to flex it because it's attractive. I
would think, Well, I'm saying like she I don't like.
I don't know what age she is, probably like upper forties, but.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
You know, does she want to day? Like, I'm sure
she'll find a better Like money's not one of the
things that's gonna stop her from dating. Like if he
has options because of his money, I mean he's still
a trash guy, Like the way he acts like she's
gonna put up with him.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
He's women, right, men in jail.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Yeah, And I think it really speaks the limited mindset
of the time too, because in twenty twenty five it's different, right.
Speaker 7 (12:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
I think people are waking up and realizing, like, oh
my god, I should believe this. Why that at a
certain age, I am no longer valuable, but you set
the value for yourself.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
She credited Carrie for giving her the courage to finally leave,
and then she asked if she could crash at Carrie's place,
and Carry's like, yeah, sure, but then she's I forgot
what she said, but it was like, now you're gonna
be squatting at my place. And I don't think she
also wanted the credit for breaking that marriage up. In
the meantime, Charlotte was so over being disappointed by men
that she decided to buy a dog because they're so
(13:28):
loyal and they give unconditional love and it is a
form of companionship. It is as somebody who took on
celibacy for a very long time, you know the vibes norms.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Nor It was nine months and when we dog sat
for like a week or two, I was like, oh,
I have a life again. You know, dogs, dogs are
really great.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Yeah, I you know, I have a doggie myself. It
wasn't because I wanted a man, but it was mostly,
you know, to help me with my grieving process. And
I feel like not she'll saved me. So yeah, dogs
are pets her healing.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
They really are. They really are. So Charlotte did have
the right idea. I'm not. I'm not against buying a dog.
They are really special. The relationships. Our relationship should definitely work,
and so are dogs.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
Oh yeah, you choose your battle.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
But uh, Sam, she could not stop thinking about James
small dick. It's driving her crazy. He's asking what's wrong
and she can't tell him.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
She's like nothing, I'm just tired. I'm just not that
sexual right now.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
And he asked her to go to a couple's therapists
or a shrink as they called them back in the day.
Is that offensive sermon but to a shrink? Yeah, okay,
I don't not that I've learned. But I'm so surprised
Samantha for not keeping it a being with this guy.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Right well, that was fixable. I don't know if a
little dick is I think when you.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
Love someone you don't want to.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Hurt them, You're more willing to work with them.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
When Okay, she really liked this dude, Yeah, I guess
so she was willing to give up seck she didn't
really love him. Yeah, me too, man, But she asked
he has to go to a shrink and she said, well.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
If it's really important to you, I.
Speaker 8 (15:27):
She suddenly longed for the simple days of emotional unavailability
and hot one night stands.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
That does make that like seem more attractive when you're
dealing with a little dip dude that just the grass
ain't greena I mean, you know, in fun in the
streets and in the streets.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
But I think it was good to experience and see
Samantha be able to love, to experience that versus you know,
people say, oh if that I don't want to love,
but they secretly want it and then they're out there
doing whatever. But at least we got to experience that
with her.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
Yeah, And just like we don't know that side of Samantha,
it's easy to forget that side of Samantha, but she.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Is a relationship girl. She is capable. She does want
some of the same things. Yeah, yeah, everyone else.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Yeah, Miranda's e f and her man, and he's still
talking dirty. Miranda is so uncomfortable when.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
He asks her to reciprocate, and as of viewer, I
am also so uncomfortable.
Speaker 5 (16:26):
That, uh huh, tell me what you like? You like
my hand there caressing your.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Breath, I will say his his his dirty talk is track.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
What you're saying isn't even attractive, Like you're not doing
it right far, Like you're doing it absolutely wrong.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
I actually have to go. I forgot, I gotta go
water my cat, like, get out of here.
Speaker 5 (16:58):
I'm over it.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
But she gets into it. You can, I'm over it. Whatever.
I gotta say, I'm out of here.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
But Miranda, she charged, She starts to buy out, she
starts to get into it, talking dirty back.
Speaker 6 (17:10):
She's like.
Speaker 5 (17:12):
A rock yes, hard, rock.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Hard.
Speaker 5 (17:21):
Oh yeah, sausage.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
This is the most vanilla dirty talk I have ever
heard person.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
When she said sausage, I thought of naturally, honestly, because
it comes sausage.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
Do you think it's a lack of confidence in her
that doesn't give her the ability to just own it.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
And just like I don't see not being comfortable sexually,
I think it was just wasn't her thing. Yet well,
I think that initially it was rooted in that, but
once she got into it, I think that was her
being confident with the cartage.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
I think that was her sexiness. She was owning that
bedroom in.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
Her eyes, you know, I think she was uncomfortable with that.
But I don't think she's overall uncomfortable in the bedroom.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
I think she's also rigid as a person, you know,
in general. So I feel like that can come off,
come off in bed, or come out in bed.
Speaker 6 (18:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (18:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Well, in the next scene, Carrie and Susan they meet.
Charlotte's dog needs disappointing just like other men.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
They just that he's not doing anything that she's asking
to do.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
He don't listen, He's just all over the place.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
You feel me to train the dog.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Yeah, So.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Susan's like, can we go Carrie this dog and he's
doing and I want to go home in case with
your calls, so I don't answer. Charlote's like, that's not healthy,
Like you're being map has aggressive. She's a little bit
judgment with Susan. Charlotte ain't got to off for Susan,
but Susan she's just like, I want to beat me
and I don't care.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
And I listened to this girl and her weird dog either.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
But the next day, Carrie wakes up to an unsettling
birthday gift set.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
That's what she said, child, it's a gift for mister Big.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
It's a dozen expensive I don't even know if it's
a dozen, but expensive red roses, he said.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
She's telling her girls about it the next day, and
they say.
Speaker 5 (19:23):
Best wishes on your birthday. It's from Big.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
What kind of flowers?
Speaker 5 (19:28):
Roses? Red?
Speaker 6 (19:30):
Big?
Speaker 5 (19:32):
Expensive? What do you think it means?
Speaker 4 (19:35):
It means rip up the card and watch out for
the thorns.
Speaker 5 (19:38):
No, no, no, this is the grand gesture.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Talk about the bare minimum. Him sending flowers is a
grand gesture. Yeah, I didn't think it was. I mean
they looked like long stem.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
It was a big ass box, but not a major gesture,
nor birthday like that.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
And he wrote best wishes like not I love you,
Can we talk about you? None of that.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
Charlotte's like, men can never say I was wrong. You
just got to accept what you can get type energy.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
No, no, no, no, yes.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
What Charlie said, Well, she didn't say you gotta except
you can get me. She said, men can't say that wrong.
So that's the way I'm saying he was wrong.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
I think women too.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
I think men are likely to say they're wrong than
women just because they got to get the women to
forgive them.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
Well, Miranda says, a rose is just a rose. Sam's
like he should have said some jewelry. That's agree, that's
right there.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Yeah, I take that. I take that.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Carrie says it's vague and she's overthinking her next move, like,
is she's supposed to reach out to him?
Speaker 2 (20:36):
What am I supposed to do? And I totally get it.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
I know we can judge Carry and be like she's
overreact and let it go. But I broke up with
this man and now he's reaching out or sending me gifts,
and I love him and I want to make it work.
So I'm kind of looking for anything that will, you know,
allow that to happen. So I'm not going to judge
Carry for this, because.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
Girl, I get it, definitely, But he's definitely.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
Charlotte leaves because her dog is misbehaving and and she's
starting to see the real Henry, just like in any
relationship when the real person comes out, you know, And
Carrie is again thinking why Big couldn't just say he
was wrong, So she calls him.
Speaker 5 (21:15):
Yeah, Hey, it's me.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Carrie.
Speaker 6 (21:19):
Hey, how are you doing great? Great?
Speaker 8 (21:22):
Listen, I just wanted to call and thank you for
the flowers.
Speaker 5 (21:24):
That was very thoughtful of you.
Speaker 6 (21:26):
Oh yeah, yeah, well, you know, my secretary had it
on her.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Calendar, so you know, Oh, so your secretary sent them.
Speaker 5 (21:34):
No, I sent the flowers.
Speaker 6 (21:36):
My secretary alerted me.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
To the day.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
So she was overthinking something that was just like such
a small gesture for him, per usual, as per usual,
just like secretary.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
And I just didn't perceive Big as being so wrong.
I feel like Harry didn't respect his boundary. But was
he wrong? Did he do anything to wrong? Carryout? He's
the one said, like, why couldn't he just admit that
he was wrong? Yeah, you know, he didn't do any Sorry,
you couldn't beat my mom.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
Sorry, I wasn't ready to tell you. You was one right,
you are, like, shut up? So, yeah, he did nothing wrong.
You're right about that to see.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
But I also got the sense that he tried to
downplay the sending of the roses to an extent.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
I thought he kept it a bean. My assistant told
me it was on the calendar. I gave it a
green light. I didn't even know it was your birthday.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Well, I'm thinking, I'm thinking he could have easily just
not done anything. I feel like that's the bread crumbing
and let me see if she can come back.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
That's true, Yeah, you didn't have to do anything.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Well, I don't think that that in his mind. They
ended all bad terms like I just saw you, I
told you. Look, you never looked better. Like we got
to take things into context for him, Say the roses
were one hundred dollars, that's probably like five dollars to him.
And the secretary Terry probably handled everything. He probably did
the same thing the least of the week before and
Johnny before that. So it's like it's nothing for him.
(23:03):
I think she's telling herself this whole thing and creating
this whole thing so to accuse him of breadcrumbing or whatever.
He probably just like send her something. They just wat
each other. The last episode also.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
Knows Carrie and how she feels about him. So if
you know someone is in love with you, why are
you gonna go and like rein ignite something that, Oh,
I know if I give this man that we know
I'm not interested in him or I don't want to
make serious, but let me go over there and show
up and send him something to like make him feel
like I'm still interested. But I'm gonna put my foot
(23:34):
one foot in and keep the door open so that
it looks like I'm not committeing, So you can't say
that I'm going like I'm in the wrong. I can't
admit anything because I didn't say anything. But at the
same time, if you want to come back, my legs
are open.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Well, I feel like you know legs.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
Even you know, like I'm supposed to navigate your emotions
and how you need to protect yourself. That's not my job.
Doesn't need to repect your own emotion, prerect yourself. I
just said mad people flowers this week. I don't even
think about how you're going to say. That's on you
to control, not me.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
But don't say like I think he's aware. I don't know,
but he's aware, like she's obviously in love with him.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
We're aware as viewers. He don't know nothing you mentioned, right,
thanks Sissy.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Yeah, but you mentioned context earlier. He knows she is
in love with him, do we know? Why would you
he does why don't you want I would tell me
I love you, like he knows how kind of she
wants easy or desperate, she wants to committed relationships. So
it's like, why would you You should just cut it off.
You shouldn't have sent her to the flowers at all.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
He knew that she wanted to meet his mother, and
he offered the vacation instead, you know, to to make
it like, Okay, I can't do this for you, but
this is what I can do. So he was aware.
So I don't, no, Kayla, I think he just.
Speaker 6 (25:04):
Spirals.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
I don't think.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
I don't think it's his responsibility.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
I'm not saying that.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
I just know that he's aware that how her feelings
are stronger for him in that moment.
Speaker 6 (25:12):
But it's like you would you have appreciated your ex
send you flowers?
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Will you?
Speaker 6 (25:17):
And a freaking spiral go crazy?
Speaker 2 (25:19):
But I would know that's on me, that's not him.
It's any gesture like like.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
That, Like as Carrie, I wouldn't even have called him
and say on let me, like you know, I would
say like what what is this? What does this mean?
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Why?
Speaker 4 (25:35):
That's exactly right?
Speaker 3 (25:37):
But yeah, Carrie, does one even worse by after him saying,
She's like, I got a party coming up on my birthday,
please come. He's like, uh, if she regretted at the
moment it came out of her mouth, and lord knows,
I've been there. It's like mid sittence, I'm like stump,
but it's already out, so it's done at that point.
(25:59):
So she regrets it, and he's like, I might be
with somebody else, so oh yeah, bring that person. Both
of you come. It's at this place at this time,
that's where you would have lost myns. He said, oh
I got this person. Oh all right, I understand. I'll
see you next time. I'll cut you at the next one. Whatever,
but whatever. She regrets it immediately, but she invited him
in his date as she thought to her birthday party.
(26:19):
In the next scene, Samantha and James are at the
counselor and they're talking about how they haven't had sex
in a month.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Sam's like, I'm just not feeling that sexual. James is like,
Samantha is playing so cute and coy.
Speaker 8 (26:35):
I know, I know.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
So the strinth thinks like, maybe Sam just can't orgasm
sexually and or through sex or through intercourse. And I
think Samantha is a little bit offended by that because
she one thing she did credit in is that sex game, right,
which you're not going to do. But they run out
of time exactly, don't do hot. They run out of time,
and they're booking the next appointment, and Samantha's like, oh
(27:01):
my god, the thought is doing this once a week's
really about to drive me up a wall.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
But I'm not about to do and she gets fed
up and yells.
Speaker 7 (27:08):
Your penis is too small. Excuse me, it doesn't and
it just it can't and I can't and it's.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
It's just too damn small.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Did you ever stop to think that maybe your vagina
is too big?
Speaker 5 (27:28):
No?
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (27:33):
He storms out after that, But I think, like, after
all that time and just holding it in and not
saying anything, that how comes she exploded?
Speaker 8 (27:39):
She did?
Speaker 3 (27:40):
She really did it, not in the way she wanted
to from him. Okay, But he walks out, and Samantha says,
the truest line and sex and the city.
Speaker 6 (27:49):
History, What can I say?
Speaker 5 (27:52):
I need a big dick.
Speaker 6 (27:53):
I hear that the therapist.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
And then Samantha smile because I think, like woman and
woman bitch also when you're settling and then you finally
like choose what's true to yourself. Like there's just a
sense of relief. Even though he stormed out said your
vagina is big, She's like.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Thank god, it's it's the only thing done. It's done.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
Do you think Carrie did for that relief when she
ended up with mister Big.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
She was tortured, she wanted more from him. Samantha wasn't
getting what she needed, whereas Big was everything Carrie wanted,
you know, So it's different.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
She's she's not settling with mister Big.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
You know.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
I think that, dude, I really think that Carrie was
doing the whole like, oh, I'm gonna break up with
you type of ship so he can beg her.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
You think so, but he but he didn't know exactly.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Yeah, you think, oh yeah, she probably definitely wanted like
a chase like you are the one when it said
he got in the car and picked up an should know.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
I think, going back to your point of Leia, she did.
She has she not broken it up, I mean in
the first couple of seasons, or she did settle because
she deserves someone to love her and recipropate that love.
That she wanted from mister Big, right, but it wasn't
a relief for her because she envisioned and fantasized him.
And you know, but I think had he he wasn't
(29:16):
ready to settle down with it.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
He wasn't ready to.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
Give her the emotional availability. But he was the package
that she wanted if he was emotionally available, Whereas like
with Samantha's case, he was never going to be what
she wanted because he was lacking. I don't think Big
was really lacking outside of emotional availability.
Speaker 4 (29:32):
Yeah, that's huge, though it is huge. It is it
makes like let's say that he was like he still
dragged her along and he said you are the one,
but his actions still remained the same. Would she be suddling? Then?
Speaker 2 (29:45):
I don't think that Big was emotionally unavailable.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
I don't think he gave And I could say I
don't disagree with that he wasn't moving at the pace
that Carrie wanted. Yeah, a year is a long ass time,
and I don't think Harry could have been satisfied. Like
it was like I'm giving you you want this argue
you that you want this argue you that now like
it's you're gonna want the next thing, say you do
meet my mom and it's like, right now we're gett married,
Like that's that's what Carrie.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Carrie was.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
She's she didn't respect where he was. It was all
about what she wanted and when I wanted it and
how I wanted it versus where he is and what
he wants. Like there was no communication because he was like,
just give it time, like I'll get there, just give
it time. She's like, I need it now, and it's like, oh,
all right, the fuck I'm taking this other to a
Caribbean probably, but anyway, so.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
She would have been settling it. Has she continued to
put up with it for sure.
Speaker 5 (30:34):
You know.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
I guess it's that balance with my timeline versus his timeline. Yeah,
you know.
Speaker 5 (30:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Miranda's still talking dirty in bed and she's like cock
cock cock cock cock. Why couldn't I have said that before?
Speaker 5 (30:47):
Cock?
Speaker 3 (30:48):
AND's like I hate that word, I really do. It's
so unattractive to like a bunny rabbit.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
I think of a gun. I just think of stiff.
He asks what she likes and she tells him and
he's like, and what do I like? She got too
comfortable always doing this from last season. Like it when
I'm biting your limone mm hmmm, someone else. You like
(31:21):
it when I'm kissing your ball.
Speaker 5 (31:24):
Go, yeah, I keep going, and you really like it
when I slipped like finger in your ass.
Speaker 6 (31:34):
He ain't like that.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
He ain't like that. Oh so uncomfortable. He's like, excuse me,
She repeats herself. You really like figuring your ass. He
like just turns over, respond Jesus take the wheel. Marandaby Wallace.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
It's like you've been asking her to speak thirty and
when she does, oh, it's too much. Yes, fucking malea.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
I mean she didn't learn from last season. When she
talked about the butt play with guy he left her
in the middle of the street, goes to her, You
gotta be careful women in their butts.
Speaker 8 (32:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
I did smack a butt and I got and I
got threatened.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
I mean, you're right, though, he's a jerk, Like he
didn't have to be so mad, just like, oh yeah,
let's not talk about that.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
That's all he had to say about it, And don't
bring it up again.
Speaker 6 (32:28):
If you like a finger up your ass, you like it, admitted.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
I mean men aren't supposed to I mean I don't.
I'm not saying this is my preference. The society men
and their asses is questionable. Even when I went to
a gastro intentional doctor back in the day, there was
a checkbox that said do you engage in homosexual activity?
And it said anal sex in the parentheses, Like, why
does it have to be homosexual activity? Uh, it's just
anal you know, yeah, associated, yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
You know, yeah yeah. When she tells the girls about it,
they agree.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
They're like, men don't want attention brought to the fact
that they like asked, but you can do it, but
don't bring attention to it, you know.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
They don't like that.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
Stanford's like, I don't like nothing in my ass, and
that's what they ignorant asses did. They all laughed at him.
Speaker 6 (33:13):
He ain't liked it.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
He could be in top, don't we just back to Stanford?
Speaker 3 (33:19):
But Shar's like, men are so frustratingly inconsistent, which is
why I love my consistent dog, Henry. And Carry's getting drunk.
She's overthinking, she's taking back the vodka. Big about to
come with his girl. She can't even think about it.
It's just crazy to her. So Big walks in and
(33:39):
he walks in with his friend Jack, who's going through
a divorce. Carrie's so happy to see Jack and out
a girl, so she gives up and gives us the biggest.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Hug, like where have you been? I've you been? Da
da da da, And I guess they're allowed to stay
at her birthday dinner.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
Big then proceeds to have an amazing time with the
belly dancers at the restaurant.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
He's like tipping them, like flirting with them and doing
all this stuff. I'd be upset. I wouldn't like it.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
I feel like the fact that he came is like
that's when it's a problem. Like it's okay to send
me roses whatever, it's my birthday, I mean whatever, But
to come to dinner, Like I think that's really sending
a miss message, Like why.
Speaker 5 (34:16):
Did he show up?
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Why did she invite him? We know she forgoted it immediately.
He didn't have to show up. I mean, I don't know.
I think that's a mixed message.
Speaker 4 (34:25):
I see. Look, I try to put myself in his
shoes where it's just like when someone likes you more,
you know, we want to maintain some of us, you know,
Like I've been guilty of that, Like, I'm not mister
Bigger isn't the bad guy. It's not his responsibility. And
maybe he's just better at maintaining a friendship with no
feelings and being cordial and not having to make that
(34:46):
person your enemy. But she, I feel like she, Carrie
has to take accountability and she's still waking the knees
for this guy, and she's not there yet. I don't
see nothing wrong with being friends, but when you're more
healed and you moved on, you're in another healthy or
another relationship. But she's not there yet, so she's trying
(35:07):
to force it and make it like whatever he gives me,
I'll take it versus just you know, and she's putting
it on him. It's not his fault. He doesn't have
to admit that he's wrong or he did anything. So
I'm not really on curious side.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
Right, And I don't think her friends were really happy
that he was there the whole time. They're like, what
is he doing here?
Speaker 2 (35:27):
Why are you here? Like I can't believe he came.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
He just like enjoying the belly dancers, not even realizing
the conversation around the table is about him and why
he's there, He's just enjoying his time. But in the meantime,
BIG's friend Jack is connecting with Susan. They seem to
be having some good answer, but then Susan shout to
four of my guess, wouldn't shut the fuck up, just
like Richard always told us.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
I really never imagine myself as a divorce.
Speaker 5 (35:51):
That, you know, but I do think it's more important
to tell your own soil than.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
It gets to go in search of greener pastures.
Speaker 5 (35:59):
Do you ever shot.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
And after you said that she missed her husband, it
was like so disrespectful. Damn I would have cried. I
would have I don't even know what would.
Speaker 4 (36:12):
Drinking that face, Honestly. I saw this one TikTok that
talked about how people how do they not read body
language and like can tell when someone's just like over
the conversation and they keep talking and it's just like damn,
like you can't tell that this person is so disinterested
and they keep going. Is it selfish or is it
just a lack of social cues?
Speaker 2 (36:33):
Yeah, yes, especially if she was drinking.
Speaker 4 (36:35):
You know, I kind of respect it, like if you're
thinking it. Some people just say it out loud, you know,
say with what's on their mind.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
I mean you start talking to somebody else. See, yeah,
that's that's there's so many others about it. But she
didn't you supposed to be here? Whose mans are you? Like?
Speaker 5 (36:51):
Why are you?
Speaker 2 (36:52):
She was inviting? He wasn't.
Speaker 4 (36:53):
What was her response? Did she seem offended?
Speaker 5 (36:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (36:56):
She did.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
Away and she said, think about.
Speaker 6 (37:02):
But it reminds exactly comment that fucked up blind reminded
her of her abusive husband and made him made her
miss him.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
So she wasn't sad that he reacted to her in
that way. She was sad because she missed her husband.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
Like that.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
But Charlotte goes home after the party and she finds
that her dog completely destroyed her room. That dog man
he shipped everywhere, like on her bed.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
That pissed me off.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
When she stepped in dog poop own house. I slipped,
and that pissed me off because that's like my my
safe haven. You poop on my bed. Look he was poop,
Yeah you was.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
NATCHA would never seriously was an angel. That dog was disrespectful.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
It needed to be fixed, I guess, because I think
when dogs are not fixed, they're much more hyper and stuff.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
I don't know that dog.
Speaker 3 (37:57):
So the dog was given away. But Charlotte can I
ever said that she gave the dog away. She gave
it to Susan and Richard, who was Susan's husband, and
apparently it fixed her marriage because they both talked to
the dog like shit instead of talking to each other
like shit, that poor dog, that poor dog, right right,
But carrying Bigger alone in the streets, and I just
(38:20):
know the feeling of missing somebody, and then you're finally
with them again, and it's just like especially after they
love walking with you, they came to your birthday dinner,
Like first of all, you're like so excited, you're not
over him, like you're happy he's there, and then you
find time to be the last two where you're walking
together the street like I've been.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
There, like I've dumped the Yankee because I can't.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
I'm not over you, and I have a whole Yankee
Like and now I got you walking with me on
my thirsday.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
I love it for her, I really do. Don't judge me.
I love love.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
Big offers her a ride home or cab there He's like,
you know, I'll take care of the cab.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
She's like, no, I'm good.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
He's like good because I left my last twenty and
that girl gee strength, so I know, right. But he
said that belly dance or something, maybe crouch, so she
rejectses offered. They wish each other a good night, and
she kind of stands there and like stares at him
a little bit. I think she's waiting for a kiss.
That's what I told myself. But he turned around and
walked away, got into the car, but he did look back,
(39:14):
you know, he looked back, she said.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
They got into his car and drove off, and she says,
as I watched him.
Speaker 8 (39:22):
Go, I realized the one thing I couldn't say to
mister Big was I'm still not over you.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
And you shouldn't say that because you look crazy. Yep,
I don't say that, and that's how the episode ended.
So I'm happy she didn't say that. And there are
certain things you just don't say, like our good friend
John Sally said, and that's one of them, because.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
You are a crazy girl. You're crazy. And I'm happy
that she gets a luck with her men on her birthday.
Speaker 4 (39:50):
Okay, so now we're going to go to the cringest
moments of the episode. Uh so Carrie getting aggressively kicked
out of her friend's house. Mm hmm. Miranda's awkward dirty
talk during sex.
Speaker 3 (40:06):
Scenes, especially when she got played with the butt Blaye
stuff again, that was all of that work to then
be dumped because of that because it was too much.
Speaker 4 (40:16):
It was just too much. That's crazy to me, So okay.
The next one is Carrie. Carrie's awkward phone call to
mister Big to thank him for the flowers and inviting
him to her birthday dinner. What was the reason?
Speaker 5 (40:29):
What?
Speaker 4 (40:29):
What the reason?
Speaker 6 (40:30):
I don't get in.
Speaker 4 (40:31):
Yeah, and then we have Susan Sharon's marriage with Richard.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
I don't know if that's cringe or just freaking sad.
Speaker 3 (40:39):
But yeah, I almost didn't put s cringe, but maybe
the way he fact that she went back I think
at the end that's my editor, like, you went back
to that.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
Yeah, yeah, I'm going to have to vote for Miranda's
dirty talk. Jesus agreed.
Speaker 4 (40:56):
Honestly, I'm gonna have to go with Carrie calling mister
Big like that is so oh like, damn girl, get
it together, like you couldn't. To me, that's cringe because
it's just like, oh, I just want to I just
want to find any little excuse just call him and
let him know that I just can't. And that's how
she sounded to me. That was cringe because just play cool,
(41:18):
pretend like okay, these fires on't mean nothing. Thanks. No,
she had to make it a plane to go thank him.
So that's just me. That's my boy. I'm play on
my on my own.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
But you probably should have called her, you right my birthday.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
Yeah, I'm gonna go with the Miranda, dirty Miranda, yeah,
dirty talking.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
Yeah, all right, that one's the cringiest moment of the episode.
Speaker 8 (41:42):
Buh all right.
Speaker 3 (41:46):
Now let's get into some sex and the social media
at Big Harry Style in six nine, says season two,
episode two, Sex in the City, if a man yelled
at me like that, I'd be in jail for murder.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
M hmmm, I ain't going hold you. That shit's crazy.
Speaker 3 (42:03):
I was pissed that first glance, like like right away,
you know, like that's not how I'm gonna react to that,
Like it's not like we arguing up in here. Yeah
at Girlwink says rewatching Sex and the City for the
third time, and why do I get the mister Big appeal.
Now I'm on season two and he hasn't turned into
an actual demon yet.
Speaker 2 (42:23):
I agree, same, I agree, I know, I know, I
know when mister Big turned into the worst and it wasn't.
Speaker 1 (42:29):
Them, I did sign. I'm on season two, Sex and
the City. What do you mean Stanford is a top?
Ain't no way, bro, that's a little judgment to you.
Speaker 4 (42:43):
Know.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
What that means is the name Anthony. Anthony's a bottom.
He's a bottom.
Speaker 1 (42:47):
Yeah yeah, but it's like, let him be a top.
It's like there's no one way to be gay exactly.
Speaker 3 (42:55):
And that's when they did the gay the lbgt Q
plus community a disservice.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (43:00):
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Speaker 2 (43:14):
Bye bye,
This is Sex in the City of Angels podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Welcome back to Sex in the City of angel This
is an episode too.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Oh I love you guys. Some of a great tea back,
so great tea back. And we just covered season two,
episode one, so if you missed it, go back check
it out because we're doing this episode by episode. We
made it to the Awful Truth and God, youth was awful. Child,
The truth was awful. After the classic intro, we meet
(00:49):
Susan Sharon and she's the East Coast Rep. Shouts to
the East Coast for an Italian Kashmir sportswear.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Two years ago, married a very mean, mean me. What
did I tell you about listening to my CDs? Natalie and.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
You too?
Speaker 2 (01:11):
That man is gonna die early.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
You can't walk around wife getting like that. You were
gonna get six sir, heart attack waiting app Okay, But
now Carrie only sees her once or twice a year,
and it's usually when her man is out of town.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
And that's how it happens. When your friends get married, you.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Know, they just they just go with their man and whatever,
We love you bye. They're walking down the street and
they're having this cute She's sharing a story with Carrie,
and she's like takes Carry's cigarette and Carry's like trying
to get it back, and she just keeps puffing it
telling her story. She's ignoring Carrie, and she invites her
up to her apartment, like, hey, I gotta get for
you for your birthday. So they go back to Susan's
(01:51):
apartment and she's like, you just gotta be quiet because
Richard sleep.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
She gives her a box.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
It's a beautiful cashmere scarf, and Carrie's like, oh my god,
I love it. She's like, yeah, that goes for like
eight hundred dollars at bar and she's like, oh, yeah,
you mind if I sell it because.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
I can really use cash.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
They're like, oh, that's why they call it cash mirror.
Cute little joke, but the laughter woke up her husband.
He was going on, I'm sorry, honey, but Carrie had
this idea about return.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
What's our agreement about visitors at for nine pm?
Speaker 2 (02:22):
I know it's just that it's her time that is
so uncomfortable. Yeah, he crashed out. That was crazy.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
If you know your man's gonna like react that way,
don't have me around.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Exactly, because now I'm getting cursed out. That's not my husband.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Go out, goes celebrate her birthday outside or like yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Bring her, bring her the box and the cashmere sweater downstairs,
Like I don't want to ever be talked to.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
That was very unnecessary.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Yeah, never let me in that position.
Speaker 6 (02:51):
We're telling them to shut the fuck up.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
No.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Yeah, well Carrie did grab her all of her stuff,
and as she was walking out, she said good night, grumpy,
like get out.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
She was like, oh my, crack me up. So she
walks out.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
The couple so yelling at each other, and she's like,
I wonder if this is like it's really that bad
or is this.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Some kind of foreplay for them?
Speaker 3 (03:14):
And if so, I was like a tool that just
got it started on a on a little you know,
they little nasty John Let Susan call it Carrie, Like
I'm so sorry, I'm so embarrassed. Like Carrie's like, it's okay,
it happens. He's probably just grumpy.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
She's like, no, he's like this all the time, Like
you don't even believe it. She asked me.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
She's ready to leave them, So she asked Carrie, what
would you do? Carrie's like, if it didn't change, I'd
leave them. She's like, so you're saying I leave them.
She's like, well, if you're not happy, leave them. So
she's having lunch with her girls and they have some
opinions the next day.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
Telling a friend to leave her husband is something you
just don't do.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
If she does break up with him, it's your fault.
Speaker 7 (03:50):
If she doesn't break up with them, she knows that
you think that she should, and therefore.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Can never speak to you again.
Speaker 7 (03:55):
Either way, you're screwed, which is a shame because there
goes your cash mirror connection.
Speaker 6 (04:00):
I agree.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
You don't get in married folks business. Married folks business,
you're always gonna lose how much?
Speaker 5 (04:06):
Always?
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Yeah, and not even marry folks. Any relationship you're gonna lose.
Speaker 5 (04:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
I'm like, I don't know, girl, it's it's up to you.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Well, Cari was like, I was caught off guard. I
got yelled at and screamed out of the apartment.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
I'm tired. I don't know. But then YE had me.
She's like, you know what, Yeah, I said too much.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
And Charlotte's like, wait, in an intimate relationship, you should
be able to say anything to your to the person
that you're you know, intimate with right, But Samantha highly disagrees.
Speaker 7 (04:37):
Practically all the relationships I know are based on a
foundation of lies and mutually accepted delusion.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
That's real.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Yeah, what a lot of people are getting into relationships
without having true conversations about what's real. It's all based
on physical attraction, delusion potential. Would you believe this person
to be I believe that no one's having real lass conversations.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Well, I do.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
I do think that a lot of people are moving
that way. But I agree with Charlotte. I think that
intimate relationship, you should be able to be comfortable enough
to say what you want to say.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
Should I should?
Speaker 5 (05:10):
Right?
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Yes, yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
But for for Samantha, although that is how a lot
of a lot of relationships are operating these days, I
don't think that that's, you know, right. So for Samantha,
I highly disagree and then be like all my relationships
are delusional. It's like ooh, no, no, I don't think
Samantha is us saying that that's how it should be.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
That's just what it is.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Can we also point out that that's like I feel
like that's domestic violence already, right, It's not like that verbal.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Abuse between that. Yeah, that was wild. Yeah, that's extreme.
I won't be able to do it. It's abusive. Yeah,
it's toxic and it's unhealthy.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Yes, yes, yeah, And I think New Yorkers do have
a more aggressive tone, but that is like next level disrespectful.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Yeah yeah, and when and when uh.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Samantha says that all of her intimate relationships have a
healthy delusion. Her friend's facial expressions look like really uncomfortable,
like like I don't know if intimate relationships in this
context is including friendships, but it's like, what are you
not saying to me?
Speaker 2 (06:15):
You know, I didn't notice that. Yeah, I noticed Charlotte's face.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
She was like, yeah, but this is coming from Samantha
who's not really dating and dating for relationship.
Speaker 6 (06:25):
And she's in a delusional relationship exactly because she's.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Right, right, right, and that's what she said.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
She's like with James, I pretend he doesn't have a
small dick, and he pretends to not notice that we
haven't had sex in three weeks, rappy like no, no,
you're not no, But Miranda, she's like, I'm in an
intimate relationship. She met a dermatologist at at a Vietnamese
food truck. Nice right at work, right at her building.
(06:54):
They really be bagging these you know, the exactly exactly.
But this guy, he likes to talk a lot.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
He likes suck real dirty in the bedroom.
Speaker 5 (07:06):
Because your beautiful feels unbelievably sexy, so hard, nasty. How
does it feel.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
What you said?
Speaker 3 (07:19):
So she's really uncomfortable because she can't reciprocate the conversation
because you know, dirty talk is nice personally, you know,
but you gotta be able to reciprocate her else it's
just awkward. I know, I really love, I love, but
you got you gotta find the right vibe where it
can come off so wrong.
Speaker 6 (07:42):
Yeah, I love it when they whispered.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
In my ears.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
My subtitle asked, like what I can't hear for ship?
I can't hear for ship, and people be whispering in
the badroom, like what you say?
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Yeah, the same thing. I'm like, huh right, right? I
think he said to round, how you doing come here?
But that's the problem. Miranda can't reciprocated. That's she's just
like what you said. But Charlotte, she has all the advice.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
She's like, girl, just compliment his huge cock Samantha's like,
big beautiful cock.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Let me just say I hate the word cock.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Like nobody says, I mean, none of my people say that,
you know, I mean not none that I know or
hang out with, no one. I won't say that, we
say do it, but anyway, neither hear nor that. Miranda's like,
I can't use an adjectives, and Carrie's like, all right,
so just say you know you're so hard, you're so hard.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
That works well enough.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Charlotte starts giving examples of more things she could say.
Our girl, Charlotte, Yes, that's right.
Speaker 5 (08:42):
Uh huh, don't stop. Just like that, come on, fuck her,
don't stop.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
And that's a clear example of what you can say it.
Carries like, Miranda, are you just completely mute during sex?
Miranda's like, no, I can give a good I'm about
to come. I'm about to come, but that's only because
I'm about to come. I don't know what else to
say outside of that.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
I felt, Miranda, guys, I feel Veranda. I like it.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
I don't always do it, and that's that's the only
thing I do say, if anything, sometimes not sound like mute.
But I don't talk that much. But I do want
to I want to talk more.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
What stops you? I'm just in my own way, me
in my head.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Do you feel like you're gonna sound stupid if you say.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Yeah, that gonna come out right?
Speaker 1 (09:28):
I think it really depends on like how much I
know the person, and it's also depending on the situation, right,
Like I can't fake being overly. If I'm into it,
I'll say stuff.
Speaker 6 (09:44):
But if it's not working out.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
I think that's what Miranda said too, Like it's like
acting or it's not real. I believe.
Speaker 6 (09:49):
Yeah, I feel like that's.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
It.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Yeah, I agree. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Carrie asked, did we put such a premium on being
open and honest with each other? Are there certain things
in a relationship that one should never say?
Speaker 2 (10:05):
We go to New Street. My best friend just got engaged.
Speaker 6 (10:09):
To the biggest loser I've ever met.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
What am I supposed to tell her?
Speaker 2 (10:12):
You're marrying an imbecile? My wife? She said, A rest
done twice.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
They look fantastic, they feel like shit. I keep that
thought to myself.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
I'm a single, thirty eight year old woman still hoping.
Speaker 5 (10:24):
To get married.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
I don't want to know the truth.
Speaker 7 (10:27):
I told Richard I couldn't spend another day married to
a man who behaves like an utter.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Asshole, and that's Susan. She's done with Richard. I guess
she said carry advice exactly.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
She left the man. Do you think there are certain
things you should ever say?
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Yeah, it was kind of like our good friend John
Sally said. He said, like, there's certain things you just
shouldn't say, and then honesty without compassion is brutality.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Yeahding you should never say.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
He did say something, he said. I don't know the
context of what we were talking about, but the message
was some things are better left and.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Said, okay, all right.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Well, Susan left Richard, like she confirmed at the end,
and they said some awful things to each other. She
said this, then he said that, she said this, He
said that. But the final blow was he said, I'll
be married within a year. You you're going to be
single forever. That's abuse, car Elliott.
Speaker 6 (11:23):
Is it borderline narcissistic? Is it borderline?
Speaker 2 (11:25):
What is it? Do you tell us? My clinical opinion.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Support narcissism, But I'm just saying that everybody's narcissist.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
I don't really know.
Speaker 6 (11:39):
He crazy, he crazy, adding intotal injury, honestly, and I.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Think that it's even words that Carrie, a woman says
like I didn't want to tell Susan, but he was
probably right with that last statement that.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
She's not gonna get married again. He'll be the year
because he's rich and available and single.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
Now, I mean she's worked right, takes his money.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Well, she has her own money, but she don't want
to take on the sugar papa. It's easy to get
baby or whatever.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
And I'm saying like, she has money because of like
half when they get divorced, But.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
What's she gonna do with that money? That don't mean
she's a You know, when you are a woman with money,
you might want to hide that from people, say advantage
of you. Whereas if you're a man with money, you
you're more likely to flex it because it's attractive. I
would think, Well, I'm saying like she I don't like.
I don't know what age she is, probably like upper forties, but.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
You know, does she want to day? Like, I'm sure
she'll find a better Like money's not one of the
things that's gonna stop her from dating. Like if he
has options because of his money, I mean he's still
a trash guy, Like the way he acts like she's
gonna put up with him.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
He's women, right, men in jail.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Yeah, And I think it really speaks the limited mindset
of the time too, because in twenty twenty five it's different, right.
Speaker 7 (12:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
I think people are waking up and realizing, like, oh
my god, I should believe this. Why that at a
certain age, I am no longer valuable, but you set
the value for yourself.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
She credited Carrie for giving her the courage to finally leave,
and then she asked if she could crash at Carrie's place,
and Carry's like, yeah, sure, but then she's I forgot
what she said, but it was like, now you're gonna
be squatting at my place. And I don't think she
also wanted the credit for breaking that marriage up. In
the meantime, Charlotte was so over being disappointed by men
that she decided to buy a dog because they're so
(13:28):
loyal and they give unconditional love and it is a
form of companionship. It is as somebody who took on
celibacy for a very long time, you know the vibes norms.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Nor It was nine months and when we dog sat
for like a week or two, I was like, oh,
I have a life again. You know, dogs, dogs are
really great.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Yeah, I you know, I have a doggie myself. It
wasn't because I wanted a man, but it was mostly,
you know, to help me with my grieving process. And
I feel like not she'll saved me. So yeah, dogs
are pets her healing.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
They really are. They really are. So Charlotte did have
the right idea. I'm not. I'm not against buying a dog.
They are really special. The relationships. Our relationship should definitely work,
and so are dogs.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
Oh yeah, you choose your battle.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
But uh, Sam, she could not stop thinking about James
small dick. It's driving her crazy. He's asking what's wrong
and she can't tell him.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
She's like nothing, I'm just tired. I'm just not that
sexual right now.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
And he asked her to go to a couple's therapists
or a shrink as they called them back in the day.
Is that offensive sermon but to a shrink? Yeah, okay,
I don't not that I've learned. But I'm so surprised
Samantha for not keeping it a being with this guy.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Right well, that was fixable. I don't know if a
little dick is I think when you.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
Love someone you don't want to.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Hurt them, You're more willing to work with them.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
When Okay, she really liked this dude, Yeah, I guess
so she was willing to give up seck she didn't
really love him. Yeah, me too, man, But she asked
he has to go to a shrink and she said, well.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
If it's really important to you, I.
Speaker 8 (15:27):
She suddenly longed for the simple days of emotional unavailability
and hot one night stands.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
That does make that like seem more attractive when you're
dealing with a little dip dude that just the grass
ain't greena I mean, you know, in fun in the
streets and in the streets.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
But I think it was good to experience and see
Samantha be able to love, to experience that versus you know,
people say, oh if that I don't want to love,
but they secretly want it and then they're out there
doing whatever. But at least we got to experience that
with her.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
Yeah, And just like we don't know that side of Samantha,
it's easy to forget that side of Samantha, but she.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Is a relationship girl. She is capable. She does want
some of the same things. Yeah, yeah, everyone else.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Yeah, Miranda's e f and her man, and he's still
talking dirty. Miranda is so uncomfortable when.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
He asks her to reciprocate, and as of viewer, I
am also so uncomfortable.
Speaker 5 (16:26):
That, uh huh, tell me what you like? You like
my hand there caressing your.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Breath, I will say his his his dirty talk is track.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
What you're saying isn't even attractive, Like you're not doing
it right far, Like you're doing it absolutely wrong.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
I actually have to go. I forgot, I gotta go
water my cat, like, get out of here.
Speaker 5 (16:58):
I'm over it.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
But she gets into it. You can, I'm over it. Whatever.
I gotta say, I'm out of here.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
But Miranda, she charged, She starts to buy out, she
starts to get into it, talking dirty back.
Speaker 6 (17:10):
She's like.
Speaker 5 (17:12):
A rock yes, hard, rock.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Hard.
Speaker 5 (17:21):
Oh yeah, sausage.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
This is the most vanilla dirty talk I have ever
heard person.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
When she said sausage, I thought of naturally, honestly, because
it comes sausage.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
Do you think it's a lack of confidence in her
that doesn't give her the ability to just own it.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
And just like I don't see not being comfortable sexually,
I think it was just wasn't her thing. Yet well,
I think that initially it was rooted in that, but
once she got into it, I think that was her
being confident with the cartage.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
I think that was her sexiness. She was owning that
bedroom in.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
Her eyes, you know, I think she was uncomfortable with that.
But I don't think she's overall uncomfortable in the bedroom.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
I think she's also rigid as a person, you know,
in general. So I feel like that can come off,
come off in bed, or come out in bed.
Speaker 6 (18:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (18:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Well, in the next scene, Carrie and Susan they meet.
Charlotte's dog needs disappointing just like other men.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
They just that he's not doing anything that she's asking
to do.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
He don't listen, He's just all over the place.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
You feel me to train the dog.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Yeah, So.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Susan's like, can we go Carrie this dog and he's
doing and I want to go home in case with
your calls, so I don't answer. Charlote's like, that's not healthy,
Like you're being map has aggressive. She's a little bit
judgment with Susan. Charlotte ain't got to off for Susan,
but Susan she's just like, I want to beat me
and I don't care.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
And I listened to this girl and her weird dog either.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
But the next day, Carrie wakes up to an unsettling
birthday gift set.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
That's what she said, child, it's a gift for mister Big.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
It's a dozen expensive I don't even know if it's
a dozen, but expensive red roses, he said.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
She's telling her girls about it the next day, and
they say.
Speaker 5 (19:23):
Best wishes on your birthday. It's from Big.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
What kind of flowers?
Speaker 5 (19:28):
Roses? Red?
Speaker 6 (19:30):
Big?
Speaker 5 (19:32):
Expensive? What do you think it means?
Speaker 4 (19:35):
It means rip up the card and watch out for
the thorns.
Speaker 5 (19:38):
No, no, no, this is the grand gesture.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Talk about the bare minimum. Him sending flowers is a
grand gesture. Yeah, I didn't think it was. I mean
they looked like long stem.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
It was a big ass box, but not a major gesture,
nor birthday like that.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
And he wrote best wishes like not I love you,
Can we talk about you? None of that.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
Charlotte's like, men can never say I was wrong. You
just got to accept what you can get type energy.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
No, no, no, no, yes.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
What Charlie said, Well, she didn't say you gotta except
you can get me. She said, men can't say that wrong.
So that's the way I'm saying he was wrong.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
I think women too.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
I think men are likely to say they're wrong than
women just because they got to get the women to
forgive them.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
Well, Miranda says, a rose is just a rose. Sam's
like he should have said some jewelry. That's agree, that's
right there.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Yeah, I take that. I take that.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Carrie says it's vague and she's overthinking her next move, like,
is she's supposed to reach out to him?
Speaker 2 (20:36):
What am I supposed to do? And I totally get it.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
I know we can judge Carry and be like she's
overreact and let it go. But I broke up with
this man and now he's reaching out or sending me gifts,
and I love him and I want to make it work.
So I'm kind of looking for anything that will, you know,
allow that to happen. So I'm not going to judge
Carry for this, because.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
Girl, I get it, definitely, But he's definitely.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
Charlotte leaves because her dog is misbehaving and and she's
starting to see the real Henry, just like in any
relationship when the real person comes out, you know, And
Carrie is again thinking why Big couldn't just say he
was wrong, So she calls him.
Speaker 5 (21:15):
Yeah, Hey, it's me.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Carrie.
Speaker 6 (21:19):
Hey, how are you doing great? Great?
Speaker 8 (21:22):
Listen, I just wanted to call and thank you for
the flowers.
Speaker 5 (21:24):
That was very thoughtful of you.
Speaker 6 (21:26):
Oh yeah, yeah, well, you know, my secretary had it
on her.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Calendar, so you know, Oh, so your secretary sent them.
Speaker 5 (21:34):
No, I sent the flowers.
Speaker 6 (21:36):
My secretary alerted me.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
To the day.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
So she was overthinking something that was just like such
a small gesture for him, per usual, as per usual,
just like secretary.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
And I just didn't perceive Big as being so wrong.
I feel like Harry didn't respect his boundary. But was
he wrong? Did he do anything to wrong? Carryout? He's
the one said, like, why couldn't he just admit that
he was wrong? Yeah, you know, he didn't do any Sorry,
you couldn't beat my mom.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
Sorry, I wasn't ready to tell you. You was one right,
you are, like, shut up? So, yeah, he did nothing wrong.
You're right about that to see.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
But I also got the sense that he tried to
downplay the sending of the roses to an extent.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
I thought he kept it a bean. My assistant told
me it was on the calendar. I gave it a
green light. I didn't even know it was your birthday.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Well, I'm thinking, I'm thinking he could have easily just
not done anything. I feel like that's the bread crumbing
and let me see if she can come back.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
That's true, Yeah, you didn't have to do anything.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Well, I don't think that that in his mind. They
ended all bad terms like I just saw you, I
told you. Look, you never looked better. Like we got
to take things into context for him, Say the roses
were one hundred dollars, that's probably like five dollars to him.
And the secretary Terry probably handled everything. He probably did
the same thing the least of the week before and
Johnny before that. So it's like it's nothing for him.
(23:03):
I think she's telling herself this whole thing and creating
this whole thing so to accuse him of breadcrumbing or whatever.
He probably just like send her something. They just wat
each other. The last episode also.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
Knows Carrie and how she feels about him. So if
you know someone is in love with you, why are
you gonna go and like rein ignite something that, Oh,
I know if I give this man that we know
I'm not interested in him or I don't want to
make serious, but let me go over there and show
up and send him something to like make him feel
like I'm still interested. But I'm gonna put my foot
(23:34):
one foot in and keep the door open so that
it looks like I'm not committeing, So you can't say
that I'm going like I'm in the wrong. I can't
admit anything because I didn't say anything. But at the
same time, if you want to come back, my legs
are open.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Well, I feel like you know legs.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
Even you know, like I'm supposed to navigate your emotions
and how you need to protect yourself. That's not my job.
Doesn't need to repect your own emotion, prerect yourself. I
just said mad people flowers this week. I don't even
think about how you're going to say. That's on you
to control, not me.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
But don't say like I think he's aware. I don't know,
but he's aware, like she's obviously in love with him.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
We're aware as viewers. He don't know nothing you mentioned, right,
thanks Sissy.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Yeah, but you mentioned context earlier. He knows she is
in love with him, do we know? Why would you
he does why don't you want I would tell me
I love you, like he knows how kind of she
wants easy or desperate, she wants to committed relationships. So
it's like, why would you You should just cut it off.
You shouldn't have sent her to the flowers at all.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
He knew that she wanted to meet his mother, and
he offered the vacation instead, you know, to to make
it like, Okay, I can't do this for you, but
this is what I can do. So he was aware.
So I don't, no, Kayla, I think he just.
Speaker 6 (25:04):
Spirals.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
I don't think.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
I don't think it's his responsibility.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
I'm not saying that.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
I just know that he's aware that how her feelings
are stronger for him in that moment.
Speaker 6 (25:12):
But it's like you would you have appreciated your ex
send you flowers?
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Will you?
Speaker 6 (25:17):
And a freaking spiral go crazy?
Speaker 2 (25:19):
But I would know that's on me, that's not him.
It's any gesture like like.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
That, Like as Carrie, I wouldn't even have called him
and say on let me, like you know, I would
say like what what is this? What does this mean?
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Why?
Speaker 4 (25:35):
That's exactly right?
Speaker 3 (25:37):
But yeah, Carrie, does one even worse by after him saying,
She's like, I got a party coming up on my birthday,
please come. He's like, uh, if she regretted at the
moment it came out of her mouth, and lord knows,
I've been there. It's like mid sittence, I'm like stump,
but it's already out, so it's done at that point.
(25:59):
So she regrets it, and he's like, I might be
with somebody else, so oh yeah, bring that person. Both
of you come. It's at this place at this time,
that's where you would have lost myns. He said, oh
I got this person. Oh all right, I understand. I'll
see you next time. I'll cut you at the next one. Whatever,
but whatever. She regrets it immediately, but she invited him
in his date as she thought to her birthday party.
(26:19):
In the next scene, Samantha and James are at the
counselor and they're talking about how they haven't had sex
in a month.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Sam's like, I'm just not feeling that sexual. James is like,
Samantha is playing so cute and coy.
Speaker 8 (26:35):
I know, I know.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
So the strinth thinks like, maybe Sam just can't orgasm
sexually and or through sex or through intercourse. And I
think Samantha is a little bit offended by that because
she one thing she did credit in is that sex game, right,
which you're not going to do. But they run out
of time exactly, don't do hot. They run out of time,
and they're booking the next appointment, and Samantha's like, oh
(27:01):
my god, the thought is doing this once a week's
really about to drive me up a wall.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
But I'm not about to do and she gets fed
up and yells.
Speaker 7 (27:08):
Your penis is too small. Excuse me, it doesn't and
it just it can't and I can't and it's.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
It's just too damn small.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Did you ever stop to think that maybe your vagina
is too big?
Speaker 5 (27:28):
No?
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (27:33):
He storms out after that, But I think, like, after
all that time and just holding it in and not
saying anything, that how comes she exploded?
Speaker 8 (27:39):
She did?
Speaker 3 (27:40):
She really did it, not in the way she wanted
to from him. Okay, But he walks out, and Samantha says,
the truest line and sex and the city.
Speaker 6 (27:49):
History, What can I say?
Speaker 5 (27:52):
I need a big dick.
Speaker 6 (27:53):
I hear that the therapist.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
And then Samantha smile because I think, like woman and
woman bitch also when you're settling and then you finally
like choose what's true to yourself. Like there's just a
sense of relief. Even though he stormed out said your
vagina is big, She's like.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Thank god, it's it's the only thing done. It's done.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
Do you think Carrie did for that relief when she
ended up with mister Big.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
She was tortured, she wanted more from him. Samantha wasn't
getting what she needed, whereas Big was everything Carrie wanted,
you know, So it's different.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
She's she's not settling with mister Big.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
You know.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
I think that, dude, I really think that Carrie was
doing the whole like, oh, I'm gonna break up with
you type of ship so he can beg her.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
You think so, but he but he didn't know exactly.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Yeah, you think, oh yeah, she probably definitely wanted like
a chase like you are the one when it said
he got in the car and picked up an should know.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
I think, going back to your point of Leia, she did.
She has she not broken it up, I mean in
the first couple of seasons, or she did settle because
she deserves someone to love her and recipropate that love.
That she wanted from mister Big, right, but it wasn't
a relief for her because she envisioned and fantasized him.
And you know, but I think had he he wasn't
(29:16):
ready to settle down with it.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
He wasn't ready to.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
Give her the emotional availability. But he was the package
that she wanted if he was emotionally available, Whereas like
with Samantha's case, he was never going to be what
she wanted because he was lacking. I don't think Big
was really lacking outside of emotional availability.
Speaker 4 (29:32):
Yeah, that's huge, though it is huge. It is it
makes like let's say that he was like he still
dragged her along and he said you are the one,
but his actions still remained the same. Would she be suddling? Then?
Speaker 2 (29:45):
I don't think that Big was emotionally unavailable.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
I don't think he gave And I could say I
don't disagree with that he wasn't moving at the pace
that Carrie wanted. Yeah, a year is a long ass time,
and I don't think Harry could have been satisfied. Like
it was like I'm giving you you want this argue
you that you want this argue you that now like
it's you're gonna want the next thing, say you do
meet my mom and it's like, right now we're gett married,
Like that's that's what Carrie.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Carrie was.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
She's she didn't respect where he was. It was all
about what she wanted and when I wanted it and
how I wanted it versus where he is and what
he wants. Like there was no communication because he was like,
just give it time, like I'll get there, just give
it time. She's like, I need it now, and it's like, oh,
all right, the fuck I'm taking this other to a
Caribbean probably, but anyway, so.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
She would have been settling it. Has she continued to
put up with it for sure.
Speaker 5 (30:34):
You know.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
I guess it's that balance with my timeline versus his timeline. Yeah,
you know.
Speaker 5 (30:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Miranda's still talking dirty in bed and she's like cock
cock cock cock cock. Why couldn't I have said that before?
Speaker 5 (30:47):
Cock?
Speaker 3 (30:48):
AND's like I hate that word, I really do. It's
so unattractive to like a bunny rabbit.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
I think of a gun. I just think of stiff.
He asks what she likes and she tells him and
he's like, and what do I like? She got too
comfortable always doing this from last season. Like it when
I'm biting your limone mm hmmm, someone else. You like
(31:21):
it when I'm kissing your ball.
Speaker 5 (31:24):
Go, yeah, I keep going, and you really like it
when I slipped like finger in your ass.
Speaker 6 (31:34):
He ain't like that.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
He ain't like that. Oh so uncomfortable. He's like, excuse me,
She repeats herself. You really like figuring your ass. He
like just turns over, respond Jesus take the wheel. Marandaby Wallace.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
It's like you've been asking her to speak thirty and
when she does, oh, it's too much. Yes, fucking malea.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
I mean she didn't learn from last season. When she
talked about the butt play with guy he left her
in the middle of the street, goes to her, You
gotta be careful women in their butts.
Speaker 8 (32:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
I did smack a butt and I got and I
got threatened.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
I mean, you're right, though, he's a jerk, Like he
didn't have to be so mad, just like, oh yeah,
let's not talk about that.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
That's all he had to say about it, And don't
bring it up again.
Speaker 6 (32:28):
If you like a finger up your ass, you like it, admitted.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
I mean men aren't supposed to I mean I don't.
I'm not saying this is my preference. The society men
and their asses is questionable. Even when I went to
a gastro intentional doctor back in the day, there was
a checkbox that said do you engage in homosexual activity?
And it said anal sex in the parentheses, Like, why
does it have to be homosexual activity? Uh, it's just
anal you know, yeah, associated, yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
You know, yeah yeah. When she tells the girls about it,
they agree.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
They're like, men don't want attention brought to the fact
that they like asked, but you can do it, but
don't bring attention to it, you know.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
They don't like that.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
Stanford's like, I don't like nothing in my ass, and
that's what they ignorant asses did. They all laughed at him.
Speaker 6 (33:13):
He ain't liked it.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
He could be in top, don't we just back to Stanford?
Speaker 3 (33:19):
But Shar's like, men are so frustratingly inconsistent, which is
why I love my consistent dog, Henry. And Carry's getting drunk.
She's overthinking, she's taking back the vodka. Big about to
come with his girl. She can't even think about it.
It's just crazy to her. So Big walks in and
(33:39):
he walks in with his friend Jack, who's going through
a divorce. Carrie's so happy to see Jack and out
a girl, so she gives up and gives us the biggest.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Hug, like where have you been? I've you been? Da
da da da, And I guess they're allowed to stay
at her birthday dinner.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
Big then proceeds to have an amazing time with the
belly dancers at the restaurant.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
He's like tipping them, like flirting with them and doing
all this stuff. I'd be upset. I wouldn't like it.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
I feel like the fact that he came is like
that's when it's a problem. Like it's okay to send
me roses whatever, it's my birthday, I mean whatever, But
to come to dinner, Like I think that's really sending
a miss message, Like why.
Speaker 5 (34:16):
Did he show up?
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Why did she invite him? We know she forgoted it immediately.
He didn't have to show up. I mean, I don't know.
I think that's a mixed message.
Speaker 4 (34:25):
I see. Look, I try to put myself in his
shoes where it's just like when someone likes you more,
you know, we want to maintain some of us, you know,
Like I've been guilty of that, Like, I'm not mister
Bigger isn't the bad guy. It's not his responsibility. And
maybe he's just better at maintaining a friendship with no
feelings and being cordial and not having to make that
(34:46):
person your enemy. But she, I feel like she, Carrie
has to take accountability and she's still waking the knees
for this guy, and she's not there yet. I don't
see nothing wrong with being friends, but when you're more
healed and you moved on, you're in another healthy or
another relationship. But she's not there yet, so she's trying
(35:07):
to force it and make it like whatever he gives me,
I'll take it versus just you know, and she's putting
it on him. It's not his fault. He doesn't have
to admit that he's wrong or he did anything. So
I'm not really on curious side.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
Right, And I don't think her friends were really happy
that he was there the whole time. They're like, what
is he doing here?
Speaker 2 (35:27):
Why are you here? Like I can't believe he came.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
He just like enjoying the belly dancers, not even realizing
the conversation around the table is about him and why
he's there, He's just enjoying his time. But in the meantime,
BIG's friend Jack is connecting with Susan. They seem to
be having some good answer, but then Susan shout to
four of my guess, wouldn't shut the fuck up, just
like Richard always told us.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
I really never imagine myself as a divorce.
Speaker 5 (35:51):
That, you know, but I do think it's more important
to tell your own soil than.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
It gets to go in search of greener pastures.
Speaker 5 (35:59):
Do you ever shot.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
And after you said that she missed her husband, it
was like so disrespectful. Damn I would have cried. I
would have I don't even know what would.
Speaker 4 (36:12):
Drinking that face, Honestly. I saw this one TikTok that
talked about how people how do they not read body
language and like can tell when someone's just like over
the conversation and they keep talking and it's just like damn,
like you can't tell that this person is so disinterested
and they keep going. Is it selfish or is it
just a lack of social cues?
Speaker 2 (36:33):
Yeah, yes, especially if she was drinking.
Speaker 4 (36:35):
You know, I kind of respect it, like if you're
thinking it. Some people just say it out loud, you know,
say with what's on their mind.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
I mean you start talking to somebody else. See, yeah,
that's that's there's so many others about it. But she
didn't you supposed to be here? Whose mans are you? Like?
Speaker 5 (36:51):
Why are you?
Speaker 2 (36:52):
She was inviting? He wasn't.
Speaker 4 (36:53):
What was her response? Did she seem offended?
Speaker 5 (36:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (36:56):
She did.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
Away and she said, think about.
Speaker 6 (37:02):
But it reminds exactly comment that fucked up blind reminded
her of her abusive husband and made him made her
miss him.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
So she wasn't sad that he reacted to her in
that way. She was sad because she missed her husband.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
Like that.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
But Charlotte goes home after the party and she finds
that her dog completely destroyed her room. That dog man
he shipped everywhere, like on her bed.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
That pissed me off.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
When she stepped in dog poop own house. I slipped,
and that pissed me off because that's like my my
safe haven. You poop on my bed. Look he was poop,
Yeah you was.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
NATCHA would never seriously was an angel. That dog was disrespectful.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
It needed to be fixed, I guess, because I think
when dogs are not fixed, they're much more hyper and stuff.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
I don't know that dog.
Speaker 3 (37:57):
So the dog was given away. But Charlotte can I
ever said that she gave the dog away. She gave
it to Susan and Richard, who was Susan's husband, and
apparently it fixed her marriage because they both talked to
the dog like shit instead of talking to each other
like shit, that poor dog, that poor dog, right right,
But carrying Bigger alone in the streets, and I just
(38:20):
know the feeling of missing somebody, and then you're finally
with them again, and it's just like especially after they
love walking with you, they came to your birthday dinner,
Like first of all, you're like so excited, you're not
over him, like you're happy he's there, and then you
find time to be the last two where you're walking
together the street like I've been.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
There, like I've dumped the Yankee because I can't.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
I'm not over you, and I have a whole Yankee
Like and now I got you walking with me on
my thirsday.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
I love it for her, I really do. Don't judge me.
I love love.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
Big offers her a ride home or cab there He's like,
you know, I'll take care of the cab.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
She's like, no, I'm good.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
He's like good because I left my last twenty and
that girl gee strength, so I know, right. But he
said that belly dance or something, maybe crouch, so she
rejectses offered. They wish each other a good night, and
she kind of stands there and like stares at him
a little bit. I think she's waiting for a kiss.
That's what I told myself. But he turned around and
walked away, got into the car, but he did look back,
(39:14):
you know, he looked back, she said.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
They got into his car and drove off, and she says,
as I watched him.
Speaker 8 (39:22):
Go, I realized the one thing I couldn't say to
mister Big was I'm still not over you.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
And you shouldn't say that because you look crazy. Yep,
I don't say that, and that's how the episode ended.
So I'm happy she didn't say that. And there are
certain things you just don't say, like our good friend
John Sally said, and that's one of them, because.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
You are a crazy girl. You're crazy. And I'm happy
that she gets a luck with her men on her birthday.
Speaker 4 (39:50):
Okay, so now we're going to go to the cringest
moments of the episode. Uh so Carrie getting aggressively kicked
out of her friend's house. Mm hmm. Miranda's awkward dirty
talk during sex.
Speaker 3 (40:06):
Scenes, especially when she got played with the butt Blaye
stuff again, that was all of that work to then
be dumped because of that because it was too much.
Speaker 4 (40:16):
It was just too much. That's crazy to me, So okay.
The next one is Carrie. Carrie's awkward phone call to
mister Big to thank him for the flowers and inviting
him to her birthday dinner. What was the reason?
Speaker 5 (40:29):
What?
Speaker 4 (40:29):
What the reason?
Speaker 6 (40:30):
I don't get in.
Speaker 4 (40:31):
Yeah, and then we have Susan Sharon's marriage with Richard.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
I don't know if that's cringe or just freaking sad.
Speaker 3 (40:39):
But yeah, I almost didn't put s cringe, but maybe
the way he fact that she went back I think
at the end that's my editor, like, you went back
to that.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
Yeah, yeah, I'm going to have to vote for Miranda's
dirty talk. Jesus agreed.
Speaker 4 (40:56):
Honestly, I'm gonna have to go with Carrie calling mister
Big like that is so oh like, damn girl, get
it together, like you couldn't. To me, that's cringe because
it's just like, oh, I just want to I just
want to find any little excuse just call him and
let him know that I just can't. And that's how
she sounded to me. That was cringe because just play cool,
(41:18):
pretend like okay, these fires on't mean nothing. Thanks. No,
she had to make it a plane to go thank him.
So that's just me. That's my boy. I'm play on
my on my own.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
But you probably should have called her, you right my birthday.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
Yeah, I'm gonna go with the Miranda, dirty Miranda, yeah,
dirty talking.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
Yeah, all right, that one's the cringiest moment of the episode.
Speaker 8 (41:42):
Buh all right.
Speaker 3 (41:46):
Now let's get into some sex and the social media
at Big Harry Style in six nine, says season two,
episode two, Sex in the City, if a man yelled
at me like that, I'd be in jail for murder.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
M hmmm, I ain't going hold you. That shit's crazy.
Speaker 3 (42:03):
I was pissed that first glance, like like right away,
you know, like that's not how I'm gonna react to that,
Like it's not like we arguing up in here. Yeah
at Girlwink says rewatching Sex and the City for the
third time, and why do I get the mister Big appeal.
Now I'm on season two and he hasn't turned into
an actual demon yet.
Speaker 2 (42:23):
I agree, same, I agree, I know, I know, I
know when mister Big turned into the worst and it wasn't.
Speaker 1 (42:29):
Them, I did sign. I'm on season two, Sex and
the City. What do you mean Stanford is a top?
Ain't no way, bro, that's a little judgment to you.
Speaker 4 (42:43):
Know.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
What that means is the name Anthony. Anthony's a bottom.
He's a bottom.
Speaker 1 (42:47):
Yeah yeah, but it's like, let him be a top.
It's like there's no one way to be gay exactly.
Speaker 3 (42:55):
And that's when they did the gay the lbgt Q
plus community a disservice.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (43:00):
Make sure you joined the conversation. Follow us at Sex
and the City of Angels and follow me at the
Kayla Austin at Yogi Underscore, Aliyah at Dana at Norms,
and we'll see you next time.
Speaker 2 (43:14):
Bye bye,
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