Ep 18. Life and Death

This episode finds the balance of life and death as our girls are dealing with both. Carrie brings her dead relationship back to life, Sam's social life dies fast, and Miranda doesn't want to die alone. We get into all of it. Take a listen!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is Sex in the City of Angels podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
Welcome back to Sex in the City of Angels.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
I'm Kyla, I'm Eliah, kay, I'm Dana, I'm Norms.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
After the classic intro, Carrie's telling us the only time
it's appropriate to wear a little black dress in the
daytime either when you're leaving a party too late or
leaving one too early, aka a funeral.

Speaker 3 (00:42):
So she's headed to the funeral.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
Of Javy Air, a hot Cuban designer and the toast
of the fashion week who apparently had a heroin problem.
Not laughing at the heroin problem, just more laughing at
how lighthearted they were about it.

Speaker 3 (00:55):
You know, Samantha.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
Shows up and she is dressed head to toe and
Javier didn't she looks so fabulous, My ladies.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
Yeah, I liked her hat. It looked really good. If
I was Charlotte would browed it too.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
But she was so funny because at after, you know,
she explains to Carrie that this is a very appropriate
attire for a funeral when you're when you're going to
the designer's funeral, you have to dress in the designer.
Carrie says, wow.

Speaker 4 (01:21):
Look at you, July. Wow.

Speaker 5 (01:24):
Isn't it a little wrong to wear a dead man's
designs his own Funeral's.

Speaker 6 (01:28):
Wrong not to Besides the two thousands for the outfit,
I better get somewhere up kidding.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
Since yesterday, it's so sad that his designers or his
designs are worth so much more now that he's dead.
I feel like that's such a common thing that happens. Yeah,
that's definitely life. People always want to find ways to
honor you and do things for you when you're dead,
So that's like the obvious way to go about doing it.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
That's just what it is, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
Yeah, anyway, when people always talk about how great you were,
they don't tell you that stuff when you're living.

Speaker 3 (01:54):
That's so true. That's so true.

Speaker 7 (01:56):
Do you feel like people should keep the same energy if, like,
if they didn't rock with you when you're alive, Like
you're not invited to the like funeral you shouldn't go
because you don't like me and you don't respect me
while I was dead?

Speaker 8 (02:08):
Should you be invited to my funeral?

Speaker 5 (02:11):
No?

Speaker 2 (02:12):
Right, definitely know, But then the person who's living. I
heard funerals are for the living. They ain't even for
the day because you're not working grief and breathe. So
if the person who's still alive wants to make amends
in that way, then that's just.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
What they're going to do.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
I'll haunt you. Don't come to my funeral if you
know I don't f with you. I promise you gonna
wake up in the middle night and be staring at
you well, uncomfortable you want to stand, don't do it
like give you.

Speaker 7 (02:36):
I feel if you if someone didn't like let's say,
at your funeral, Aliyah, would you like someone that you
know disrespected Kayla or someone you know didn't like Kayla
shows up to the funeral, what would you do?

Speaker 3 (02:51):
I'm oh, at Kayla's funeral? Uh huh huh, yes, oh.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
I probably ain't gonna be worried about that, honestly, you know,
I just feel like death puts into perspective. I'm gonna
be worried about myself. I ain't gonna be looking at
who's here, who I got beef with. I'm not going
channel anger or cause a scene at my sister's funeral.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
Like You'll be in the deepest oppression.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
I want to feed into higher vibrations and focus on
my family, and I'll probably like, that's weird.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
Wise, in social I think it would be perfectly fine
if you ask someone to leave because they were rude
to the person who passed away, or they were in
fronts with the person, or the person who passed away
doesn't like them. Right, Ye, it's perfectly fine. I think

(03:36):
I'll probably leave, like a list of people who are
not invited to mine, don't fucking let them in periomediately
out immediately.

Speaker 7 (03:44):
No.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
So Samantha looks fabulous though, and she's like, everyone's gonna
be there, cares like it's not a party. She's like,
but it is. Everyone who's Anyone's going to be there?
Essentially she opened and then the doorbell rings and Samantha's
kind of surprise that Charlotte's invited, Like He's like, is
everyone invited to this?

Speaker 4 (04:04):
Audien?

Speaker 2 (04:04):
Like there, I mean this this funeral. Everybody does that
wedding and funerals.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
It's so weird.

Speaker 8 (04:09):
I had to correct myself too. Why it's a correlation
with that, I don't know. That's so interesting, But it's.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
Funny because like, Charlotte's her friend, I know, right, I
fel like Charlotte your friend, all in.

Speaker 3 (04:20):
The same circle. It's funny.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
It's like, you're coming, so Carrie invited me and then
she's like, carry, wait, you gotta invited plus A plus one.
But you know, Carrie is that girl. She's like, we're
supposed to do X, Y and Z together. That's my
means essentially.

Speaker 3 (04:32):
So uh. They get to the funeral and Samantha was right.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
Everybody is dressed head to toe and Javier gear it
is the flyer's funeral. Anybody could ever attend it super fabulous.
His sister's there, she got a bunch of work done.
It's just it's just.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
All the rage. Yeah, like a place for gossip, the
who's the who's the what.

Speaker 7 (04:52):
This is why I feel like you shouldn't be invited
to the funeral, because it's just like you're not really there,
especially if you didn't, you know, have a relationship with
the individual. You're only there to see what's up, you know.
It's just like that. That's the main reason I can
respect it for sure.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
Charlotte felt the pressure because she had to borrow Samantha's
hat and act like she was wearing Javier too, and
Samantha friendlyly gave it to her, even though she acted
like she ain't even know her five minutes ago.

Speaker 3 (05:16):
We ain't going to act like that. We ain't gonna
remember that.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
But she she gave her the hat, and now Charlotte
feels like she fits in. Samantha realizes how much of
a business opportunity this can be for her, and she sees,
I'm going to help.

Speaker 4 (05:29):
Them raise money. That's unusually nice of you. Forget nice.

Speaker 6 (05:33):
The mailing list will be priceless, and I'll have every
unlisted two on two number in Manhattan.

Speaker 3 (05:38):
So selfish, so messed up.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
Yeah, at the end of the day, it's not right.
But is that not why Samantha was going be seen
the network? Yeah, Charlotte tap blew away and went right
on the grave site of a woman and there was
a man grieving her. Apparently it was her husband, and
him and her headed off almost immediately, which is kind
of a really awkward way to meet somebody.

Speaker 4 (06:01):
It's just a drink works on the same block as
my gallery.

Speaker 5 (06:05):
You picked up a man at a cemetery.

Speaker 9 (06:07):
He's really handsome and he went to Princeton.

Speaker 5 (06:09):
What aword thing is a definite no no why the
dead wife factor?

Speaker 3 (06:13):
Would you guys date a widower?

Speaker 2 (06:15):
They definitely have to have work through their grief. He's
clearly not ready to move forward. I don't know if
she knows it at that point, because it's respectable he's
visiting his wife, but before the end of this episode,
we know he's clearly not ready to move forward.

Speaker 7 (06:29):
Yeah, but I think it's similar to divorce, because some
people say that divorce is like a death, and it
feels just as a death feels, or like you know,
you're grieving something. So I feel like it's similar to that.
So technically, yeah, I would date someone that's divorced and
widowed from that marriage.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
I think for me, it's like, depending on the situation,
like you lost your wife and you have five kids, no,
thank you?

Speaker 8 (06:55):
Yes, five kids?

Speaker 1 (06:56):
You know.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
She's saying that, yah.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
Yeah, but you know it's just yeah, it's just weird. Plus,
like you're asking me out at the cemetery your wife
is buried there. I think that's really weird. I'm like, Charlie,
you say yes to everyone, apparently.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
And you know they meet people everywhere everywhere funerals, bars
or whatever, gym's, yeah, clubs, the.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
Show, right, But it's like you would say yes to
someone who asked you out at a fucking cemetery.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
I think I would have to have more of a
conversation to see where they are, you know, because they
got to be ready to move forward, and it takes
time and it's a process, you know, and he's not ready.
But what about the factor that they say, like they're
like Charlotte, you can never live up to her, you know,
even if she was a bitch when she was alive.
When people pass away, they become kind of immortalized, like

(07:50):
you forget all the bad they did. All you do
is missing love all the positive things about them. So
I personally think that that's a factor, you know, to
be secure. That's a factor when it's divorced.

Speaker 3 (07:59):
That's a fact. I don't think it's the same when
it's divorced personally, But it's not a threat for sure, confident, No,
I I just take that into consideration.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
There's somebody that I'm always going to be compared to
that I will never be able to live up to.
Not because I feel that way, but because you feel
that way about somebody who passed away, Just because I
have lost a lot of people, and you know, there
are certain things that other people will never able to fill.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
Those shoes.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
There's just something that when somebody dies, you put them
on a pedestal. Now all the time though that's valid,
but you know, again bereavement and there, you know, there's
a whole relationship and it comes up in partner spouse
groups all the time, like relationships aren't perfect. It's not
like they don't acknowledge the faults of their person who
died and also how their life is going to look

(08:47):
different moving forward without them.

Speaker 7 (08:49):
I feel like people get you know, compared to all
the time, even in live relationships, people that have dated
in the past. I think that you're constantly comparing the
new partner to your last and maybe the things that
they did were way better.

Speaker 8 (09:05):
You know.

Speaker 7 (09:05):
That's why you hear you have the conversation where online
where men talk about women's body counts because they compare
their The argument is like how many people you have
slept with? Like who cares? Right, But they're comparing. They
think that women are comparing their past to the future
partner or like sexual partners, and it's just like, I

(09:27):
don't know, I think it has more of an impact
when the person's still alive and then they're still around
or they're still Yeah, there.

Speaker 3 (09:33):
Are still a potential threat exactly.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
Charlote's like, it's not his fault that he died, and
it shows that he could commit. Oh that she died, sorry,
but it shows that he can commit and he's open
to marriage, which is true. And then Samantha gives her
the vice to if you want somebody who can commit,
dat a divorced person. They're committed and everybody's still alive.
And then Carrie has to bring up Big.

Speaker 4 (09:56):
It didn't work for Big.

Speaker 9 (09:57):
All that marriage did was convincing you hated committing, Carrie,
you broke up with Anna.

Speaker 4 (10:01):
Oh so I'm the one who to commit my prop on.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
Well, see see what happens when you hold Carry accountable
Like Carrie, you broke up with him, bro, it wasn't
his lack of being able to commit.

Speaker 3 (10:11):
You dumbed him.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
And then Carry ripped her head off essentially, And then
ch'alla was like, I'm just saying I kind of fell
back because you just.

Speaker 3 (10:16):
Can't be real with a friend like Carry.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
Apparently, No, Carrie wasn't in a space to receive that
in the moment.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
He never is.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
Miranda's being a boss, asked MF, and she's buying herself
an apartment, and everybody's just like, oh, is it just you,
well the realtor, is it just you?

Speaker 3 (10:33):
She's like, yeah, just me. Oh maybe your.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
Boyfriend moving, No boyfriend, just me. I'm buying this apartment.
I'm a boss. And the really ult try to give
her the card of her son who owns his own business,
and Miranda is just in a.

Speaker 3 (10:46):
Good space because she's not Charlotte.

Speaker 2 (10:48):
She doesn't accept everything just kidding, but she's just like, yeah, no,
I'm good, just me, I'm happy, which I really loved,
But she's like I do think. I wonder the more
successful you are, how much of that becomes relevant to
your dating life or to how people make you feel
bad for being a single woman. I don't know how
relative that is in twenty twenty five, because I can't

(11:08):
afford my own apartment in New York City just yet,
but I wonder if that's like really a factor that
needs to be considered, like wow, just you, you're doing this
all alone? Or Sex and City like Trailblaze to normalize
that for successful women. I can't say whether or not
Sex and City Trailblazer or normalized it, but I know
in a previous episode, we talked about how single people

(11:29):
are judged for showing up alone at the wedding, not
being able to attend to the couple strips. So yeah,
I think it's valid that it's just going to come
up when you're making decisions independently in one way or another,
showing up to events alone like it's going to come up.
I mean I purchased a home before, and no one
questioned me doing it alone.

Speaker 3 (11:47):
Okay, it wasn't in Manhattillos Ass move, boss ass Move.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
I think nowadays it's much more normalized to see single
woman doing everything their own, buying property, opening up businesses,
running businesses. So I think, yeah, that's.

Speaker 3 (12:07):
More of a.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
What was it like, early late nineties, early two thousands,
it's twenty five years later. I think it's definitely changed.

Speaker 3 (12:15):
Yeah, Miranda, she did that.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
She's bossy, and she decided to buy herself a drink
in celebration. Carrie, she's thinking about her future and she
feels like she's barely been living, so she decides to
call up her ex.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
Oh boy, dun dun um.

Speaker 4 (12:36):
Hey, Hey it's just me So, uh, I just got
back from a seneral. Oh and you thought of me.
I'm flattered.

Speaker 5 (12:46):
Do you want to have dinner sometime?

Speaker 4 (12:48):
I like a dinner any whole time? Who am I
having dinner with me? You know? In that case, I
better check my book.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
Now, fine, Saturday, eight o'clock toes, be there or be
square and you're old.

Speaker 7 (13:03):
They didn't like his energy. It needed to be more hype.
The actual episode where he answers the phone, he's just.

Speaker 8 (13:08):
Like, like, I don't.

Speaker 7 (13:10):
It was very subtle, but it was just like a
look of like, oh, it's you, and to me, it's
just like that, oh, like I wouldn't have bothered. First
of all, I don't know that.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
I feel that just I mean, I feel his energy
was like, oh, but I do feel like she was
a pain in the asses. But it's something I'm attracted.
I'm attracted to her, but we've been broken up. I
finally found my piece again. Now you want to go
to dinner. I was trying to take you to the
Caribbeans and you dump me. I told you not to
come and meet my mom. You popped up at the
church yelled at me for kissing a woman right in

(13:42):
front of you.

Speaker 3 (13:43):
What you like?

Speaker 7 (13:45):
So technically they weren't in a relationship. I like to
begin with to for her to break up with him.

Speaker 3 (13:52):
Well, they were at the end, Yeah, you were traveling,
But no, you're right.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
I feel like, when did they ever have that conversation
of we're official, we talked about it activity and it
was like we assumed that they were right.

Speaker 8 (14:05):
But she was in a situationship for sure.

Speaker 3 (14:07):
So did he give.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
The reaction the normal reaction you would have expected.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
Yeah, I think it was their normal answer. He never
validated her or reassured her too significantly. But I do
think he okay, like Roberts eight o'clock Saturday, like he
was ready.

Speaker 3 (14:26):
Okay.

Speaker 7 (14:27):
I love that, and I love their their back and forth.
That's not that wasn't That's not a problem to me.
Like I like how they can get along and just
like but it's just like their history, you know, she's
just like someone that was constantly pursuing him, chasing him,
wanting the relationship, and then to then have to still
call him and see what he's up to, rather than

(14:47):
him doing that to her.

Speaker 3 (14:48):
That's true.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
Yeah, I mean, we're I'm not I'm not arguing that
point right, Like she shouldn't have contum period.

Speaker 3 (14:55):
Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
I mean, yeah, let me hear her life for a year.
I do think he was like fine, Roberts a thirty
be there be swear like bro like he didn't. It
didn't somebody was something he was excited about or really
wanted to do. It was like, all right, you're calling
me fine, fine, like you know.

Speaker 3 (15:16):
But has a given frustration either.

Speaker 10 (15:18):
But I think yeah, because just fine.

Speaker 1 (15:23):
And he was being like nonchalant.

Speaker 8 (15:25):
Like he wants access to want to have dinner, Yeah,
let's do it.

Speaker 7 (15:29):
You know, some guys they don't want to fully commit,
but they still want access to you.

Speaker 3 (15:33):
It wasn't rejection, you know, not.

Speaker 7 (15:35):
Get you too upset where she completely blocks him and
never wants to talk to him, but he wants to
like still play with her and see.

Speaker 3 (15:41):
What she wants to play with him. He got him.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
He could have said, man, he could have said, let
me think about it and call you back.

Speaker 3 (15:47):
He could have set a date for the future. I
feel like I'm on excited man. All he did was
answer the phone.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
He could have not picked up even before the.

Speaker 3 (15:53):
End of the episode. It was indicative that he cares.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
He does, he cares about They had for sure for
sure she was excited she feels like after it took
her six months to get herself back together.

Speaker 3 (16:05):
Just how she was at the point I was supposed
to get over it.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
Her relationship with Big was resuscitated six months passed by, yeah, yeah,
and they were together a year, and it's supposed to
take half the time to get over him.

Speaker 3 (16:17):
So she was right at that point. And then she
opens up again.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
So Sam Samantha, on the other hand, she is still
working for the Hobbyhair Foundation and she's trying to use
her networks and use her connections. So she meets up
with this guy and she's saying if he can be
involved in any way, And as they're sitting on the couch,
she gets a little flirty, like, you know, a woman
like you asking me for I forgot the word to use,
like a not enticing, but making an offer. But I

(16:47):
can't think of the word right now because I'm leap,
not seducing, but anyway, so listening, listen, getting solicited by
a woman like you is honorable in itself or whatever.

Speaker 3 (16:57):
It's like, I'm flattered from that. And they got it,
got roal flirty.

Speaker 6 (17:00):
They say, latterie will get you everywhere.

Speaker 4 (17:02):
Mister Cranwell, please call me Dick. Dick.

Speaker 9 (17:08):
In Samantha's case, it was more like a friendly merger.

Speaker 6 (17:11):
Perhaps we could discuss how your house over dinner sometime.

Speaker 4 (17:15):
I believe they could be arranged.

Speaker 5 (17:19):
Samantha group Dick Cranwell for the good of all strung
out designers everywhere. Unfortunately, she was not expecting Sandy Cranwell
back early from groping a sweater set of bendals.

Speaker 3 (17:32):
Get out and sam runs about of there. So awkward.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
But as we know, Samantha, don't care if you're married,
whatever you got going on. Samantha is just going to
hook up with you. And that's my least favorite thing
about Samantha.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
Jones same, Kayla. I love Samantha, but this is the
one thing that I hate about her, right Yeah, I
judge her for it.

Speaker 3 (17:55):
Too, me too. It's not cool. It's not cool at all.
But this episode should get her karma. Miranda.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
She's closing her deal and they are still making it
this whole big deal that she's doing it by herself.

Speaker 3 (18:08):
He's like, is your dad doing the down payment? She's like, no,
just me.

Speaker 2 (18:12):
He's like single woman box, check the single woman box.
And I feel if I was in that position, which
I will only one day, maybe not single, but buying
these things, I just feel like it wouldn't upset me
or make me insecure about my single time. I'd more
judge than the man that's trying to make me feel
bad for being able to being able to purchase what
a man could purchase, not being able not be in

(18:34):
questioned twice. Yeah, it was a lot of microaggression, and
he seemed to be more mad about it than she was. Right,
if she was feeling lonely or less than confident, that could.

Speaker 3 (18:43):
Be figgering activating. Yeah, yeah, agreed, agreed, But she made
a good point.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
When she's out with her girl, She's like, again, if
I was a man, you wouldn't even think about this,
Like this wouldn't even be a conversation or anything.

Speaker 3 (18:55):
You would just give me the apartment, tap me on
my ass. You know she didn't say that. Graduating exactly
what they do.

Speaker 2 (19:03):
Ass it's a good job, buddy, But should that because
I'm a woman.

Speaker 3 (19:07):
It's crazy.

Speaker 5 (19:09):
Find a place alone means you don't need a man.

Speaker 3 (19:11):
I don't. Everyone needs a man.

Speaker 4 (19:13):
That's why I rent.

Speaker 9 (19:15):
If you own and he's still rents, then the power
structure is all off.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
It's masculating if you own and he's still rents, and
he's still dating somebody who's who's buying with you or
not the guy that rents, and if he doesn't feel
good about that, isn't that his problem.

Speaker 3 (19:28):
Not yours?

Speaker 8 (19:29):
Of course.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
Ideally, I think Charlotte still comes from that old school
mentality of women have to be taken care of. And
I even saw this reference on the Housewives of Beverly
Hills from like a divorce a person like you don't
want to appear like you can handle it on your own.
You gotta present in a way where the man has
to take care of you. I don't want to say
specifically renting versus buying, whether it's like exclusive to emasculating someone.

(19:52):
I think there's another way to make men feel you know,
what's the word masculine, even if you own and they rent.
So I don't think that's a the end all, be all,
or all inclusive topic, but I do think Charlotte's bigger
point has some validicity to it.

Speaker 3 (20:08):
I don't like the term emasculating.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
I feel as though there's no term for women in
that way, like making a man feel less like a man.

Speaker 3 (20:16):
I just think it's it's founded in patriarchy.

Speaker 2 (20:18):
And but to your point, dear sister a Leah, I
feel as though when I was in a situation recently
with a very powerful woman trying to compare herself for
compete with me, I want and I don't know if
it's because.

Speaker 8 (20:34):
Are you talking about a man acting like a woman.

Speaker 3 (20:36):
No, no, no, no.

Speaker 2 (20:37):
It was a woman who was powerful, owns a very
successful business and has many successful endeavors, very financially secure,
and the man that she was interested in was interested
in me and now I'm dating him. But I don't
know if it's because she's too masculine or see. But

(20:57):
I don't like it. I'm just saying it's but it is.
It is validity to it, unfortunately.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
You know.

Speaker 8 (21:02):
But I think that it goes to a certain point
where I.

Speaker 7 (21:06):
Think we were talking about how you have to play
the damsel when you know that when the guy, like
if the man comes into the tries to he sees
a woman and she doesn't look like a feminine woman,
or like he doesn't know what or how he can
what role he can play in your life. If you
got it off, if you can take it Oh, I
got it. I'll pay for it, don't worry. Oh my gosh.

(21:28):
Perfect example. I was speaking to a supervisor and he
comes in and he's just like he likes to talk
about women just like his give us his updates, and
he's like pretty senior level. And he's in his forties,
late forties, and so he's like, oh, because I asked
him like, oh, how's your dating, He's like, yeah, I'm
dating a girl.

Speaker 8 (21:47):
I'm dating someone.

Speaker 7 (21:48):
Right now, but she's in her fifties. But you know what,
she's so vanilla like she takes care of everything for me.
But she's just so vanilla, like she bought me a car, like,
she spends money on me. She she spoils me as
if like, what are you bragging about? Like he's like,
she's like the man in the relationship, Like everything she's
doing I should be doing.

Speaker 3 (22:08):
But I don't know.

Speaker 7 (22:09):
I'm like, you know, like, why don't you stop letting
her spend her money? And then you actually start spending
your money on her. Maybe the more.

Speaker 8 (22:16):
You invest in her, the more your attraction will grow
to her.

Speaker 7 (22:19):
And then he was like, nah, nah, I wouldn't spend
my money on her, buying him stuff actually kind of
repulsed him more interest, and then he starts talking about
another girl that he's interested in, and the other girl
he was like, yeah, she wouldn't even have to spend
anything on me. Like comparing the two is just like
one would spend so much and he would doesn't even

(22:39):
care for her, and the other woman that he's interested in,
she has no money, but he's just all about her,
and it's just like, you know, you have the example
that you just said.

Speaker 3 (22:48):
Yeah, I think it's a balance.

Speaker 2 (22:49):
So I don't think that they want, for lack of
a better word, to bum who can't do anything for herself,
because it did seem like the person that I'm currently dating,
like what can I do to help you get to
wherever you want to go?

Speaker 3 (23:00):
That's like if you're there already. Maybe they don't know
the role to play to delay onto that.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
I think that silly little men can feel emasculated when
when they meet a woman who's self sufficient and they're
doing it everything on their own right, But like a
grown man, like a mature man, wouldn't feel threatened by it.
They would show you that they can take care of you,

(23:26):
so you don't have to do everything on your own right.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
I agree with that too, like if they're healed. Yeah,
because I think society enforces some of that stuff too.
I think I think society reinforces some of that stuff too,
And I think to a certain extent, there's also like
an innate biological response two things.

Speaker 3 (23:45):
But whatever.

Speaker 8 (23:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (23:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (23:47):
Even John Sally said only weak men are threatened by
unsuccessful women.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
And I feel like, again this grown men. They wouldn't
feel threatened. They will let you be you. You want
to be an independent way. Yeah, but at the end
of the day, we know that I'm here for you,
and I'm here to support you, and I'm taking care
of you too, but I'm gonna give you your freedom.

Speaker 3 (24:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
The waitress comes over, she drops the check and well,
she said, she gave samantha car back, saying, hey, your
car is not accepted here, and Samantha's like, no, you
must be mistaken because I'm a boss, asked, and I
got money in the bank. My card will definitely work here.
And you said, let me be clear, you and your
card are not accepted here.

Speaker 3 (24:32):
Get out.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
She didn't say all that, but that's when she was implying, essentially,
and Samantha's like, oh, let's.

Speaker 3 (24:38):
Get out of here. Girls just so awful.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
Apparently the wife of the husband that Samantha was fooling
around with put a head out on her social life,
and that is why you don't mess up with marry men.

Speaker 3 (24:49):
Yeah, she was blacklisted from Yeah, man, you can't.

Speaker 7 (24:59):
Finally, first of all, does she already go in there
knowing that he was married?

Speaker 2 (25:03):
I'm sure she didn't. Well, I think it's been not
that specific situation. It was not addressed whether she knew
he was married or not. But we know Samantha and
she doesn't care if you're a married man.

Speaker 3 (25:13):
Sure she will fuck your husband.

Speaker 7 (25:14):
But I'm saying like in this instance when she was
trying to close business, Uh, the guy was hitting on
her very hard and he was the one in a relationship,
and his wife comes in and she gets punished, Like
what if she did if what if she didn't even know?

Speaker 2 (25:26):
She just wasnt Samantha Jones. I think that that may
have been considered. However, Samantha's messed with a few men's
with a few women's husband and hers reputation and then
it was also it was also vocalized when she tried
to clean up her reputation later in the episode where
it's like, you actually wrote my husband's ass too.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
Plus he's a known man. Yeah, I'm sure she knew
he was married.

Speaker 3 (25:46):
Yeah, we can't. We can't get Samantha here.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
No, I do think I think with Dana to your point,
it wasn't Samantha's fault. He definitely came for her. He
opened up that door. He wasn't acting like a married man.
She did not come on to him. Doesn't make it okay.
She still got what she deserved in that instance. But
you know if the white but no, I know wife
didn't even know all that, she didn't have all the
contacts because she walked in after they were already getting

(26:09):
it on. But but yes, Samantha didn't go after him
in that moment. She was she was trying to just
do business, Charlotte. She's dating her widower still, and she
sees the picture of his ex wife and she's like,
oh my god, she's so pretty, and he.

Speaker 3 (26:24):
Like kind of gets uncomfortable.

Speaker 2 (26:25):
It's like, it's just kind of weird talking about her
on the day and I'm not really trying to do
all that with you.

Speaker 3 (26:30):
And Charlotte thought that that was adorable.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
He actually broke down and started crying on the day
about his wife, and Charlotte usually hated when a man cried,
but for him, she thought it was kind of cute.

Speaker 1 (26:45):
Fuck.

Speaker 4 (26:47):
Wow, that's so embarrassing. I'm just I'm feeling so much
right now.

Speaker 3 (26:55):
I respect that, I understand that.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
I actually, Oh my god, I forgot I got a water,
my planants tonight. Please, I will call you later. Go home,
clean yourself up, sir, good night.

Speaker 9 (27:06):
Good.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
That's what I mean where he hasn't processed his grief fully.
Not that you won't have a breakdown moment in your
life in the future, but on your first or second date,
first date with a new person, you're clearly not ready.
Charlotte din't feel that way because Charlotte let ned hit
that night. She gave it up, so she loved it.

Speaker 3 (27:24):
I guess.

Speaker 9 (27:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
Miranda said it was like a classic case of a
fixer upper or a helper role. And I guess Charlotte,
you know, really wanted to bring to heal him, to
bring him back to society, to help him move forward.

Speaker 3 (27:37):
Or move on.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
She really took responsibility in that. But you can't force
someone to be somewhere in their process where they're just
not Yeah, Miranda said that Charlotte's clearly a rebound and
he's a project. And Charlotte feels like his wife sent
her there to heal her husband and approves of all
of them.

Speaker 3 (27:55):
She's all of this.

Speaker 2 (27:56):
She's like, it's like she was watching us with her
seal of approval. It's like, how disrespectful and delusion delusional,
like so weird, that's so weird. I wouldn't even like,
if I did date somebody with the dead wife, I
wouldn't bring her up.

Speaker 3 (28:11):
She never exists. Bring out you bring her up?

Speaker 2 (28:13):
Cool, but I'd rather you didn't talk about that with you,
with your family and your friends. I ain't that I
would have thought the hat thing was probably a sign
to though no hat blew off. I flew at a
man's you engage you and banter asked you out, So
I probably would have maybe, like I said, that first encounter,
maybe I would have explored it. But at this point

(28:35):
is when I would definitely know this man is not
ready and I'm not secure enough to be consoling you.
Not say I'm insecure about it, but I'm not trying
to talk about your ex wife and heal you definitely word.

Speaker 3 (28:46):
I ain't a therapist. Okay. No, Carrie's getting ready for her.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
Date with mister Big and she's so excited, which I'm sorry,
I just get it, Carrie, I do.

Speaker 3 (28:57):
I'm not just get it.

Speaker 1 (28:58):
I like it.

Speaker 3 (29:00):
I felt that.

Speaker 7 (29:02):
That's I felt that her emotions, Like I'm like, oh,
I know love is love, but it's just like this
is in love right now. You know, this is not
where it's at and it's not going to develop right now, okay,
and so I just it's like, you know, the fire
is hot and you're still gonna touch it.

Speaker 8 (29:23):
You're still gonna get burned.

Speaker 3 (29:25):
And hope that something changed. Nothings.

Speaker 8 (29:29):
You call him.

Speaker 1 (29:30):
That's what I'm saying. That's why I can be that
excited for it because you called him.

Speaker 2 (29:36):
But now we want to answer, but say something for
that Saturday. I can see how she'll feed the narrative.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
Yeah, her narrative, right, Yeah, I'm yeah, I'm just like
why Yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
Well, they're on their day and they're having a blasm.
I don't care what Kayla norm is the Leia or
Dana thinks they are talking about the afterlife, and she's like,
what do you think heaven is he's like a bed
where somebody says.

Speaker 3 (30:01):
Come here, and I'm just like, oh Jesus, okay, so serious.
But that's his version of heaven. And after their date,
of course, they end up back at mister Biggs place.
They are getting hot and heavy, and Carrie is, I'm
seventeen years old, crazy thought of getting back with him

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scared her. However, why did you go back to his place?

Speaker 2 (30:31):
That's why I like, you're seventeen years old, because if
you didn't want to hook up, don't put yourself in
that position.

Speaker 8 (30:35):
We've all been there.

Speaker 7 (30:36):
We've all been there right when you say, uh, you know,
people shave you know, the vagina and bald spots, and
they still get into it.

Speaker 10 (30:45):
And there she wanted to touch the fire and wanted
to take it as far as she took it, and
she did good, Like if I wanted to open the
door reconnect on my axe.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
Even though he didn't call me, we still got a
date on Friday. The one thing I cannot do is
sleep with him again, Like that's the power. So in
that moment, she you know, didn't lose.

Speaker 3 (31:07):
In that moment, well, apparently she got out just in time.

Speaker 9 (31:10):
I didn't know what had happened, but suddenly getting back
together with Bigs seemed like a very bad idea.

Speaker 5 (31:16):
I was scared to death the first time I.

Speaker 4 (31:18):
Got involved with Big. I got out just in time.

Speaker 1 (31:20):
It's like, if you already had a bad experience with him,
what makes you think it's gonna be a better one
this time? And secondly, I'm actually surprised she didn't sleep
with him right there, and then seriously crazy ask.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
And you know she what end of the episode she
was got But.

Speaker 1 (31:38):
All of that, like even the conversation, it's all lust.
There's no love there.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
They have a strong sexual, physical attraction, which I think
she also acknowledged. Meanwhile, Sam's getting kicked out of every
party everywhere. She can't get in anywhere. She's trying and trying.

Speaker 3 (31:55):
But that woman.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
Sandy has some power in those New York freets. In Samantha,
she was one the list, the list of don't let
us in.

Speaker 3 (32:04):
So Samantha's a loser in this in this moment.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
Meanwhile, Miranda meets her new neighbors and they're all pretty
old where she is the youngest person in the building.

Speaker 6 (32:13):
So glad a young person moving in brings little life
to the place Ruthie kept pretty much to herself.

Speaker 4 (32:22):
Never married. She died in there, you know she did.

Speaker 6 (32:26):
Oh yes, it was a week before anyone realized she passed.
Rumor has it the cat eight have her face?

Speaker 3 (32:36):
Why are you telling me this?

Speaker 2 (32:39):
Promise you whenever I came out of my apartment, I'd
make sure you're nowhere in the vicinity because I would never.

Speaker 3 (32:44):
Talk to that woman again. I do not fuck with
my neighbor.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
Honestly, that's my biggest fear, d me dying alone at
home and not treating my face. Don't let him meet
my face.

Speaker 3 (32:54):
No, no, no, no.

Speaker 2 (32:55):
It's been scientifically proven that the dog, if it loves you,
it won't eat you. It'll die before it eats you.
Cats one thegether handy, they don't wait.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
Okay, I need to see that, because supposedly Wien your
dogs will eat your face for sure, and cats will
eat your face. And I have one and one.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
Yeah, my good friend John, we actually had this conversation
about being vegan.

Speaker 3 (33:14):
I'm like, it's a doggy dog word and the animal.
He's like, actually, it's not a dog eat dog. We're
all dogs won't eat you. So I just took it
as s back. I never googled.

Speaker 1 (33:23):
That's great, but honestly, but yeah, that is my biggest fear.
You live alone, You fucking you're eating dinner, you choke,
Who's gonna who's gonna know you're choking? You dye and
then that's it.

Speaker 3 (33:35):
This is this episode did.

Speaker 2 (33:39):
Make me think about that, like dying alone, Like that
is one thing about being single and not having children.
You know, you can have nieces and nephews and cousins
and things like that, but if y'all and not having
direct conversations about what to do with me or how
often to check on me, you know, you're likely to
be handling everything alone. And it just does come with
those possibilities. I mean, at the end of the day,
you did, but but.

Speaker 3 (34:01):
Does it doesn't matter, doesn't matter what. It's a horrible
way to die. But that's.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
I mean, I just have my opinion. I feel like
you do regardless. I'm going it's not me, this is
just the vessel.

Speaker 7 (34:14):
But I also think that if you're dating out of
that fear and knowing, like oh, having that behind your head,
you're gonna settle and you're gonna find out who settle
for anyone that's available, and you're like, okay, as long
as I don't die alone. But technically you're gonna die miserable,
you know, so it's gonna be another thing.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
Well that struck the fear into Miranda's heart. Miranda starts
overfeeding her cat, eating as well, when she starts to
choke on something, which is very scary.

Speaker 3 (34:43):
I don't know if anybody's ever choked before, but I was.

Speaker 2 (34:46):
Remember we were actually at a steakhouse together and I
didn't choose my steak right and it went into my throat.
I literally thought, that's how I go. And I was
just going to go to the bathroom and you know.

Speaker 3 (34:54):
Go there. But I was able to get it out
of my throat. Oh no, one, no, we both follow her. Wait, yeah,
I don't even know what to do.

Speaker 7 (35:02):
I don't think you didn't do it.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
Yeah, no, they but they did follow me. Thank you
for making sure I was okay. But it's super scary,
like you genuinely can't breathe. You just feel like Randa
did a really good job acting in that scene.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
Did your life flash before your eyes when you were choking?

Speaker 3 (35:20):
Honestly, it was no. I just felt like she couldn't
even think about trying to find a solution.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
It was some good steak though, and if it did
take me out, what a dinner?

Speaker 3 (35:33):
You know, what a dinner? Great times.

Speaker 2 (35:35):
But Miranda, she had to run into a box and
kind of like over herself to get the thing out
of her.

Speaker 3 (35:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:42):
I was going to try and say the scientific turn,
but yeah, throat essentially, And she called Carrie because who
else would you call? Right, And Carrie actually was a
really good friend. In that moment, she tells Carrie that
she was choking.

Speaker 4 (35:58):
And you're hate sweet, are you right?

Speaker 9 (36:01):
I was watching hard Coffee and I kept thinking when
they found.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
Me, I would forever be the dead girl.

Speaker 4 (36:05):
Who watched that TV. Why didn't you call me?

Speaker 2 (36:09):
I couldn't worry, So, yeah, she's freaking out, understandable, So
I missed the part I forgot to acknowledge a part
where Carrie wasn't answering the phone because Big had called
twice and she didn't.

Speaker 3 (36:18):
Know what to tell them. So she wasn't answering BIGS calls.
She was screening calls.

Speaker 7 (36:21):
She was screening fss me and my phone is always
on doing I disturbed? So sorry, guys, I can't be
your emergency contact.

Speaker 3 (36:28):
I respect that one thousand percent.

Speaker 8 (36:30):
But you know, you can buy puss sometimes you can,
and I do.

Speaker 2 (36:35):
But yeah, so that night she went a bit hungry
and she locked her cat in the kitchen for two
days as a pot owner, is that not okay?

Speaker 3 (36:43):
How do you feel about that?

Speaker 1 (36:46):
They're going crazy and overfeeding your cat? Don't do it,
but it's real, Like I'm telling you, I think about this.
I learned, you know when I first heard that cats
they will eat your They will eat you no matter what.
And then about the dogs, I do worry about that, but.

Speaker 7 (37:04):
Well, they got to eat because who's going to be
feeding them when your body like when you're.

Speaker 1 (37:11):
That check in on me in the morning.

Speaker 7 (37:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:17):
Meanwhile, Sam's trying to clean up her reputation and she
goes to another woman to help, who apparently is also
powerful in atlanticxity, I mean.

Speaker 3 (37:26):
In New Jersey, damn powerful in New York.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
And she uh she the girls like, actually, bitch, you
grow up my man's ass.

Speaker 4 (37:34):
Tip.

Speaker 2 (37:35):
It was like she was the queen of the social lites,
even more powerful than the woman who had her blacklisted.
So she had to go to this woman the upper
and beg for acceptance.

Speaker 1 (37:43):
She was really nice to her. Actually, girl, I would
have kicked her ass.

Speaker 3 (37:47):
I would have took the me in. Yeah, I mean
she's staring at her. I think it was a white girl,
but yeah it was white girl. Mean you begging like
you need me?

Speaker 2 (37:55):
Smile? Right, So she stares at her a Samantha says,
which is a line that lives in my mind.

Speaker 3 (38:00):
This is one of the i't iconic sex and city
lines for me.

Speaker 4 (38:03):
Look, what do you want me to say? Should be?

Speaker 6 (38:06):
And I'm a whore that I've slept with every man
in New York and sum in Brooklyn?

Speaker 4 (38:13):
All right, maybe I have? Is that what it's gonna take?

Speaker 6 (38:18):
Okay, I'm a big whore, Now will you help me?

Speaker 3 (38:24):
I don't think so fine.

Speaker 6 (38:31):
And I only grow uped your husband's flag preppy ass
at that benefit because I was drunk.

Speaker 2 (38:38):
Hey, that way you learn you know exactly where I
grabbed your husband's ass, you do at that benefit.

Speaker 3 (38:43):
I was draged, bitch like your husband.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
But yeah, so Samantha's going through it and the woman's
like major bed lying in it. You're good at So
they were really giving each other some real white girl
proper zingers.

Speaker 3 (38:56):
I love the messages. Of it all.

Speaker 2 (38:58):
I love it and I just love the writers and
Samantha in that position. It just shows how the pendulum
swings both ways situations.

Speaker 1 (39:05):
Yeah, I said earlier, like that way you learned, But
does sam really learn her lesson after that?

Speaker 3 (39:10):
We'll see, she sing, We'll see Miranda.

Speaker 2 (39:14):
On the other hand, she is walking down the street
getting accustomed to her new neighborhood that she just bought
this fabulous apartment in, and everything starts to go blurry
and she's freaking out and she gets really discombobulated and
almost gets hit by a taxi and then catches the
next taxi to the hospital she took herself, and apparently

(39:36):
she was having a panic attack, which I've never had before,
But that looks serious.

Speaker 3 (39:40):
That was scary.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
Yeah, people think they're gonna die when they have panic attacks.
It's a very common thing and it is scary. Sometimes
I feel them coming on when I'm on the road,
and it is just scary. I'm able to talk myself
down and not like because panicking when you feel those
symptoms is what caused you to panic more. But yeah,
it's just real stuff. You gotta regulate your nervous I
think it's a mind over madder thing too.

Speaker 6 (40:02):
Sure.

Speaker 3 (40:02):
Yeah, yeah, Carrie's like, what's wrong, and she's like, carry,
I'm gonna die. Look, it's gonna eat me. I'm so
scared of that.

Speaker 2 (40:12):
Carrie's like, it's okay that you pull an apartment by yourself.
You don't have to feel bad about your choices, honey,
pretty much reassuring her that you know, it's fine.

Speaker 3 (40:20):
Carrie was a very good friend in that moment. Yeah,
Carrie's being a good friend in this episode.

Speaker 8 (40:24):
I think Carrie's always been a good friend.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
You are, yeah, only because like I feel like when
when they're usually trying to talk to her, like in
the carry, in my head would have been like, oh
my god, you had a panic attack.

Speaker 3 (40:35):
I hooked up with a Big two days ago. What
do you think about that?

Speaker 2 (40:38):
And it's like then they'll talk about that and it's
like no room for anybody else in their space.

Speaker 3 (40:41):
But so that's where Carrie becomes a bad friend for me.

Speaker 2 (40:44):
She brings everything back to herself, and everything back to
her and Big and these other girls don't have time
to discuss themselves or what they got going on again.

Speaker 1 (40:52):
Yeah, you even mentioned earlier that when you try and
keep you hold her accountable, your friend accountable. She's a
bitch to you, she is. That's not a nice friend.

Speaker 7 (41:01):
And I say she I didn't say she was a
nice friend. I say she's a good friend.

Speaker 3 (41:04):
Overall.

Speaker 7 (41:05):
I see the whole picture because I feel like the
longevity of their friendship definitely tested so many waters. But
I feel like they stood through a lot and they
were able to grow. And I think that's what I am.
I judge a friendship the overall picture because I feel like, yeah,
we can be we We're all individual individuals, like we

(41:25):
can all have our moments, and you know, if we
had a scope or a lens on us, we'd be
terrible friends to some people. But when you're actually living it,
you're like, oh, I didn't mean it that way or
it didn't come off that way.

Speaker 3 (41:38):
And I'm sure you know it's a good point.

Speaker 2 (41:40):
Though we are watching her from like a judgmental standpoint,
I think she's a good friend too. Yeah, I think
she's not like the most judgmental. You know how Samantha
and Charlotte are on the extremes, Miranda is always the
better one. Carrie makes it about herself, but you know
she does show up for them. Yeah, and doesn't judge
them as much as the others judge each other.

Speaker 8 (41:58):
She's not a hater.

Speaker 7 (41:58):
She wouldn't say it with Samana that said to Charlotte like,
oh you gotta you know you're here, I thought things
like that. She wouldn't do that, And I think that's
why she constantly is the friend that everyone goes to
because she is a good friend and in whatever way
you know she they always invite her, or she's a
plus one, or they want her to come and help
console them.

Speaker 3 (42:17):
So got mom to honor all that.

Speaker 1 (42:19):
Well, let's keep let's keep score. I'm gonna write this sound.

Speaker 3 (42:23):
Yeah, I think that's a good idea, norm Charlotte.

Speaker 2 (42:25):
Meanwhile, I was on the date with her widow and
they are going to his wife's grave site, and all
of a sudden, other women show up, and Charlotte's.

Speaker 6 (42:33):
Like, please tell me those are your sisters.

Speaker 4 (42:36):
I don't have any sisters.

Speaker 5 (42:38):
Charlotte realized she wasn't the only woman who suscitating that
Charlotte's relationship died right where it started.

Speaker 9 (42:50):
She was prepared to live in the shadow of a
dead woman.

Speaker 4 (42:53):
She wasn't prepared to live in the shadow of.

Speaker 3 (42:55):
Three live ones, which is very understandable.

Speaker 2 (42:58):
Charlie dump them right then and there after hitting him
with the flowers that he that she bought.

Speaker 3 (43:02):
For his wife.

Speaker 8 (43:03):
So that was his thing, right apparently is.

Speaker 3 (43:05):
And his wife as a can't pick her up.

Speaker 8 (43:07):
Yeah, yeah, so those tears weren't real.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
No, I think he's honestly ain't high in it, so
I don't know if he's ill intended. Samantha, on the
other hand, she's doing the groundwork at the Javier benefit
because she couldn't find anybody in her network to help
her out. Because this woman completely annihilated her reputation.

Speaker 3 (43:25):
I like to see it.

Speaker 2 (43:26):
She's still sticking to her words to help the foundation,
even if it's hard work. That's how you're successful. I
think your your your reputation, your work, ethic matters. Samantha
was always going to delive, okay, So she was on
the ground doing the work.

Speaker 3 (43:40):
All of a.

Speaker 2 (43:40):
Sudden, Leonardo DiCaprio, who didn't look anything like Leonardo DiCaprio,
if I do say so myself, no matter how much
you blur his face out and give him.

Speaker 3 (43:47):
A silhouette, but it's not Leo, was it?

Speaker 2 (43:50):
But Leonardo DiCaprio cleaned up her reputation and save Samantha
resuscitated her social life.

Speaker 3 (43:57):
Samantha is alive again.

Speaker 2 (43:58):
She found another power player to welcome her back into
high society.

Speaker 1 (44:02):
Mm hmm. Watching this episode again felt like I was
watching it for the first time because I didn't remember
that scene with her working like doing like manual labor
at me. Don't they I've ever watched what?

Speaker 2 (44:16):
Yeah, I was thinking DiCaprio. I thought it was like
the Leo DiCaprio of something else. I didn't think it
was supposed to be.

Speaker 3 (44:24):
I thought it was, but I don't know. Let us
know Essex and City of Angels.

Speaker 2 (44:28):
Ran in the meantime, she had to fill out some
form where they thought she was separated, and she had
to write a letter saying I'm not separated, I've never
been married, I'm single. And it took her a lot
to write that letter, but she did it. She got
it done. She embraced our single toom and hild herself.

Speaker 6 (44:44):
Essentially, she realized she probably wouldn't die alone.

Speaker 5 (44:47):
But she kept overfeeding her cat just.

Speaker 2 (44:49):
In case, which isn't a bad thing, better than starving
the cat, I suppose, so I love that, and then
Big he finally came to see Carry since she apparently
wasn't answering his phone calls, and then theme with the episode,
if you haven't picked it up already, he said, good,
you're alive. So they end up going out after he
you know, they start making out. She doesn't let him in,
but they end up going bowling, the non sexiest place ever,

(45:11):
but I enjoy bowling personally before you knew it.

Speaker 3 (45:14):
I guess they are back together because at the end
of the day we.

Speaker 9 (45:18):
Never made it to the second game. I didn't know
if it was suicide or not. All I knew was
Big and I had been reincarnated, and I've never felt
more alive.

Speaker 3 (45:31):
So I'm Bigger back cooking up. And that's how the
episode ends. I like it.

Speaker 2 (45:35):
I know we're upset at Carrie for reaching back out
to him and opening the door Big again, but I
feel like she's not playing a game and just living
authentically to her heart, even not sleeping with them like
she tried not to. And she could have continued to
avoid it, but that's what she genuinely wanted to do,
and that's what she did, and I get that. Yeah,
all right, So we have a new segment we'll talk

(45:56):
about the common themes of the episode more. Since this
episode didn't visit the streets, it looks like the writers
really gave a common storyline to each of the girls,
and the theme we found in this episode was a
life and death theme. Samantha is dead to society of
New York, and then she has to come back to
life through meeting another power player, the Leo DiCaprio, so

(46:18):
it's like her reputation died and came back to life.
Veranda had to face her own death and the idea
of dying alone as well as being confidently alone whether
you're questioned about it, like not having a panic attack
over having to type the word single, So she had
to face her own mortality. Charlotte was dating a grieving
widower and trying to help resuscitate him back to healing

(46:38):
and back to moving on and dating again, but then
had to dead that relationship altogether when she realized he
was using his grief for sympathy. And Carrie revived her
deadit relationship with Big. So yeah, I just thought it
was all cool that the girls were dealing with death
of different relationships or different aspects of themselves in different ways.

Speaker 3 (46:57):
That is really cool. I do love the themes of
the episode.

Speaker 2 (47:00):
I think the writers are brilliant in that way where
they can tie such a connected thing together in such
different ways. Like you if you don't, if you're not
really watching, I don't think you catch it. But very cool,
very cool.

Speaker 7 (47:11):
Okay, So now we're gonna go to the cringest moments
of the episode. So Samantha getting caught getting handsy with
the lady's husband.

Speaker 3 (47:20):
Yeah, that was bad.

Speaker 8 (47:21):
Okay.

Speaker 7 (47:22):
So the next one is Samantha later getting black listed
from the elite social circle surrounding her latest business ventures,
causing her to become super desperate to break back into
the club, and we had to watch her embarrassiling kicked
out of several places and having to beg to be
accepted back again, only to be denied. And the last one,

(47:43):
the grieving widow crying on his date was Charlotte, and
Charlotte really thinking that she can save him and help
him move on.

Speaker 2 (47:51):
After that, I initially thought the Samantha thing obviously, like
why are you making out with a man's husband, I
mean that woman's husband that she says get out? Super awkward,
but now that you had the crying widow thing and
Charlotte thinking that was coute.

Speaker 3 (48:04):
I'm gonna vote Charlotte.

Speaker 2 (48:05):
I'm voting Samantha begging society.

Speaker 8 (48:09):
Like some have some dignity, you know she did.

Speaker 1 (48:13):
I vote for Samantha as well.

Speaker 3 (48:15):
All right, well, I guess Samantha is the winner.

Speaker 4 (48:18):
Bruh.

Speaker 1 (48:20):
Now let's get into sex and the social media. At
miss Courtney, I'm only in season two of Sex and
the City, and no way Carrie is like this. Yes
she is the whole time. At Goal d Tom, I
used to see all these memes of Carrie Bradshaw being annoying,
But my god, I'm halfway through season two of Sex

(48:43):
and the City. I think Miranda is the most annoying asshole.

Speaker 7 (48:46):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (48:47):
She just doesn't doesn't stop complaining and being a bitch
to everyone. At Karen Guadas rewatching Sex and the City
season two, and I literally feel nauseous because I've been
in Harry's position before and I'm getting flashbacks. Okay, at
not that persinct at Harper on season two, episode five

(49:10):
of Sex in the City and noticing how the subway
hasn't appeared or even mate been mentioned once.

Speaker 3 (49:16):
True that's funny, that's true.

Speaker 1 (49:19):
Yeah, but you know they're a rich white woman. Why
would they Why would they write the metro the train. Yeah,
well the bus made it. Harry rode the bus at
one time. At Maple Brown, season two, episode five of
Sex and the City hit a little too hard.

Speaker 3 (49:38):
Yeah, man, I loved it. I loved it.

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Speaker 1 (49:49):
At norm, Soya at Dana, and we'll see you next time.

Speaker 8 (49:54):
Byye