Ep. 4- Addicted to Men and Shoes

We made it to S1 Ep 4, Valley of the Twenty Something guys. We cover pros and cons of dating younger men, and the possible birth of Carrie's shoe addiction. Join the conversation @SexInTheCityOfAngels.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is Sex in the City of Angels podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
Welcome back to Sex in the City of Pan angel
I'm Kayla, I'm.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
Aliah Kai, I'm Dana, I'm norm sow Hi CanYa.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
And we are for single women in our thirties who
happened to love sex and the city. And now we
made it to episode. What episode is this?

Speaker 4 (00:37):
Four Valley of the twenty something Guys. I think that
in this episode the writers finally found their well, not
finally found their footing, because the first three episodes were
pretty good, but episode four I was like, have my popcorn.
I was locked in with my girl. I will say, Yeah,
I'm enjoying it a lot more. You see the dynamics,
you see the friendship, you see you just get to
know the girls more. Yeah, yeah, exactly. They're they're they're

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like more of their personalities. I don't know, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
It just seems more natural for my girls. But let's
get right into it, shall we? Mm hm?

Speaker 4 (01:08):
After the classic intro, it starts with a fairytale standard
Once upon a Time, and it goes to mister Big
and Carrie bumping into each other everywhere. Carrie says it's
like they were dating accidentally. She says she calls him
a certain man and she calls herself a less certain woman.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
What do you think she meant by that? I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:29):
I think that she would maybe be certain about him,
but he's not certain about her.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
As far as whether.

Speaker 4 (01:35):
He wants he or not, I don't know, But I
do love to see that Fate is continuing to bring
Big and Carrie together, like rewatching it.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
It seems like, yeah, it was fate.

Speaker 4 (01:43):
Like this is a major city in Manhattan, I would imagine,
and they just keep running into each other. So I
don't think that's by I don't know. I think that's fate.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
Yeah, fate and.

Speaker 4 (01:53):
Great writers, i'd say, But yeah, it definitely was always
meant to be. From season one, Episode one, Carrie and
mister Big are a story that keeps on giving, but
they finally decided to bump into each other on purpose.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
In the next scene, we kind of get carried away. Early.

Speaker 4 (02:10):
Our four girls are at a restaurant opening that Sam's
PR firm is putting together. Charlotte has a new boyfriend.
His name is Brian, and he meets her Big three looks, manners,
and money. I always knew that was kind of Charlotte's
big three. I would say my big three ambition, money

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and faith.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
I never really thought about it, but I guess I
should come up with a big three.

Speaker 5 (02:39):
I would say money for sure, kindness and generosity.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
Ooh, I like the kindness.

Speaker 5 (02:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:51):
Charlotte's new boyfriend Brian is super supportive, and he's talking
about buying a painting from Charles's gallery. So not only
is he a great guy with looks, manners, and money,
he also is supporting her gallery and giving her a
nice little commission. Whereas Big is supposed to be meeting
Carrie at this restaurant and he's already officially late.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
I don't think that's the best sign.

Speaker 4 (03:11):
I mean, if he's a big wig or a tycoon,
if he's working, maybe, you know, sometimes when you have
a data man of a certain caliber, work will come first.
I don't know if that's his excuse for band late,
but I will say I know Norms is gonna get mad.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
At least he called.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 5 (03:28):
I mean, if they had a cell phone, he I'm
sure he would have texted her.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
He would have called yeah. I think the biggest bad
sign is that he just said, oh, meet me for
a drink thing, not a date, right officially, so.

Speaker 4 (03:43):
I'm okay with a non committal date. I mean like
a non committal entertaining each other. We don't know what
this is yet, but let's explore.

Speaker 5 (03:49):
We've had those moments where we go out and you
have drinks with people, right, and it's.

Speaker 4 (03:54):
Just like a casual not that deep, but you think
it's absolutely absolute not carry not.

Speaker 3 (04:00):
At this point of they're constantly, you know, bumping into
each other, and they're obviously attracted to each other. Why
not have a date?

Speaker 2 (04:09):
Carry That's great, It is a date.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
He called it a thing. He said, maybe maybe for
a drink thing. Never use the D word.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (04:18):
I would definitely accept and be excited if I've been
running into this guy all over the town and finally
we're meeting on purpose. I don't think i'd be splitting
hairs on whether he said date or thing. I'm just
so excited that we're finally doing something not accidental.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
Not that I'm desperate, but I got a crush on
this guy and finally, yes, you're about to hang out.
I agree with that.

Speaker 4 (04:39):
It's like Carrie did, wasn't I guess she didn't know
if she was up to big standard or I don't
know if she was contemplating that she didn't think she
had a chance. Really, I mean that's what it was
given the first couple episodes. So at this point it's like, Okay,
he is a little interested. Charlotte says, the thing is good,
it's what happens before the official date. She didn't sound
too certain when she said that. I don't know if
she was trying to like make Carrie feel better, if

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she truly believed it, But I will say it does
show that they're working towards something possibly not necessarily guaranteed.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
But it's not something to be all upset about and
be like, I'm not giving him my time because he
didn't say a date the girl.

Speaker 4 (05:12):
Yeah, and on the flip is probably not something to
be super excited about either, because if he wanted to
be on a date with you, he definitely would have
said we're going on the date.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
Yeah, that's true, that's true. Take it for what it is,
and I do think Carry does that throughout the episode.
She takes it for what it is.

Speaker 3 (05:25):
But I do appreciate Charlotte's optimism always.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
She is so optimistic except for about Skipper.

Speaker 4 (05:31):
Miranda's looking for Skipper and she's like, I don't know
how you date this young Skipper. Young men are so
scattered and unfocused. Miranda confirmed it was just for the
sex in this episode. I wasn't sure about that early on,
but yeah, she does want Skipper for the sex. Sam
is so proud of her event. She's like, I had
to send twenty people away crying, So I think her

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event is a huge success, just showing the powerhouse that
Sam is in her PR firm and chefs kiss Sammy Jim.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
I just love it. I'm proud of you.

Speaker 4 (06:00):
But Carrie, she gets into the event and she's checking
her voicemail and apparently Big isn't coming. He said something
came up. She handed the phone to Miranda, like, you
decipher this message if he's breaking off a date or
if he's just breaking off a thing. And I just
think we all are just kids inside, you know, we
never grow up when you have those feelings.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
She's like, girl, what do you think he meant when
he said that?

Speaker 4 (06:17):
And don't I think that that was just so realistic
and so relatable when you're into a guy. Yeah, I
feel like we're always over analyzing every little thing, every
little inflection, like how do he say it?

Speaker 2 (06:29):
What he say?

Speaker 4 (06:29):
But I think from the men's perspective, it's kind of
like I said what I said, and that's it. Like
men don't really speak in cold they it's kind of
like face value. If it's a thing, it's a thing,
and that's it. It wasn't a date.

Speaker 5 (06:39):
Yeah, there's no confusion.

Speaker 4 (06:41):
And that's probably why Miranda had no idea what he
meant because she and she graduated top of her first
in her litigation class. So she's like, I can't even
tell you, but I like you guys said it is
what it is, it's a thing, and he's canceling, according
to Carrie. Carrie then goes meet Oh my god. Carry
then goes and meets Samantha Jones, who is at the
table with John, the hottest chef in New York. He

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has no last name, John know each either j O N.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
John.

Speaker 4 (07:08):
She introduces Carrie to John's friend Sam, not to mix
the Sam that is twenty something with Samantha Jones. It's
a new guy that you know Carrie is meeting, and
Sam gets up, gets up to buy Carrie and Miranda
a drink. Carrie is like, good luck. The lines are
super long, but he's not worried about it. He knows

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the bartender.

Speaker 6 (07:29):
Twenty something guys always know the really important be people,
bus boys, bouncers as cute butts.

Speaker 4 (07:38):
Twenty somethings do have cute butts, especially when you start
looking at olderman's butts on television, it does starts to
flab and get nasty at the bottom.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
I was just watching what was I watching?

Speaker 4 (07:48):
Overboard the remake, and there was an old guy and
they were showing his butt his tattoo, and I.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
Was like, Eh, that's a nasty butt.

Speaker 5 (07:55):
That is so funny. I've never noticed like young guys
but yeah, me, you never know.

Speaker 4 (08:00):
I've never noticed young guys butts, but I've noticed old
guys butts. And I know old guys but like young
guys butts. I love, I love, but not like, yeah,
I look at everybody's butts. Oh my god, I love
honking my boyfriend's butts.

Speaker 3 (08:16):
That's the first thing you look at.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
It's not the first thing I look. You're like, oh, yes,
but I will look. Yeah, you get up, I'm looking,
you walk away, I'm looking.

Speaker 3 (08:25):
I love hens. I look at hens, but it's.

Speaker 5 (08:27):
Not something Okay, it's not something that like I find
attraction with men like, oh my gosh, his ass is
so popping, like.

Speaker 4 (08:34):
I wouldn't be attracted to it, but I will be
turned off if it's ugly, like if you got a
pimply butt or saggy butt or droopy but Harry, no, no,
my hair butts, girl, you know your hair in places
as a grown man.

Speaker 3 (08:47):
I've never been with a hairy man, so I don't know.
But yeah, they're nice. Mister Timothy Oliphant though, the actor
super cute. I like him.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
Is he Sam?

Speaker 3 (09:02):
He's Sam?

Speaker 2 (09:04):
Is he super cute to you?

Speaker 3 (09:05):
Yeah, I've seen him in other movies. Yeah, it's like, yeah,
I like him.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (09:13):
Samantha's man, John Well, Samantha's man for the night. John
sees a Times critic and he has to go introduce himself.
Samantha pulls him in and gives him a really hot kiss.
Miranda and Carry look a little bit uncomfortable, but of
course Samantha's liked and I mentioned I'm sleeping with him.
Her level of PDA is just not classy, Like, I
do not want to be with my friend in the club.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
Just all over somebody. I don't think.

Speaker 4 (09:33):
I don't think i'd be too comfortable with Samantha either,
Like she goes into.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
A lot of details, a lot of in front of me, and.

Speaker 4 (09:40):
I'm not really I can I'm not that comfortable with
other people's sex, Like I can do high level conversations,
but I don't want to see what you're doing. And
I feel like she doesn't really hide much. She'll do
it right in front of you. That's what she gives anyway,
not that she ever did throughout the series.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
You did it in front of you.

Speaker 5 (09:57):
That I walked. Okay, long story short. I had a
friend who we went on a group vacation and she
thought the Uber driver was like hot, and she invited
them to the room and I didn't. I walked in
and they were like having fun in the shower. Nice,
but Sammy Joe like that was like whoever is available.

Speaker 4 (10:18):
I feel like that's a lot of things, a lot
of people's college experiences. I never, like lived on campus
in college, so I kind of commuted and did I
got my degree that way. But I feel like when
a lot of my friends are like, yeah, I used
to hook up all the time in front of my
roommates and stuff in college, A lot of my close friends.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
I've done it. It's just never been something that I'm
comfortable with.

Speaker 3 (10:36):
Yeah, yeah, it's definitely uncomfortable. Right when I was at ucally,
maybe I shouldn't share this story, but yeah, there were
someone was having sex in the room while we were
fucking sleeping. I woke up to that and immediately, No.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
Immediately did you get up and walk out the room right.

Speaker 3 (10:57):
When I was about to do it, No, to like
kick them out. I think they probably felt my energy
and they got out themselves.

Speaker 4 (11:04):
So yeah, Skipper's not one of the twenty somethings that
knows any of the b people because he went to
the bar I guess before Young Sam and tried to
get Miranda Martini.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
But he came back with two rumming cokes.

Speaker 4 (11:18):
Miranda's like, I hate rumming, I hate coke, but thank you,
and she's so ungrateful.

Speaker 3 (11:23):
This is annoying. And then who doesn't like coke? Really, well,
that was actually disgusting for you.

Speaker 5 (11:31):
Sorry, that's not even the point.

Speaker 4 (11:33):
I'm sorry, I'm worry.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
We digressed, We digress, we digress.

Speaker 4 (11:39):
But Young Sam got all the power because he came
back with two martinis and he's holding it on a tray.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
The girls like, ooh, look at you with the tray.

Speaker 4 (11:47):
He's like, yeah, I used to wait her at two GIF.
Carrie's like, oh, that's fabulous.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
These girls are so funny. I love them so much.

Speaker 6 (11:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (11:56):
I feel like, even though I love Skipper, I would
have been a little turned off if I want a
certain drink, you came back without it, and then my
friends do came back with the drink like it. I mean, yeah,
I hate to be I don't know if a shallow
or what, but I like the maza. I like a
man that could make things happen right right right. And then,
like I said, your man's a loser in that situation.

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That's on your arm right there. He couldn't even get us.
Martini says he brought from back rumman cokes, but typical Skipper.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
He's trying.

Speaker 4 (12:23):
Sam and Skipper say hello, and then Sam is like, yo,
come here, I want to show you something to carry carrying.
Sam walk over to the side a little bit and
he starts showing her his tongue ring and she's apparently oppressed.
Impressed by that. The nineties were different times. The nineties
were different times, I have to say. But just as
she's staring at his tongue ring and holding his tongue,

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of course, incomes mister Big, I've been looking all over
for you.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
Here you are.

Speaker 4 (12:51):
He doesn't seem to bother that she's holding a tone.
He looks more confused than anything.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
You know what this?

Speaker 3 (12:59):
You think I hate Big all that time, but I don't. Okay,
maybe in this one instance, I appreciate how sure of
himself he is. He's not overly jealous. He even participates,
and he looks he's like he's like looking at the
tongue too, like what's going on, and he like smiles.

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So I really I like how sure of himself he is.
But you just don't like when he's too sure of
I don't like when he's he's an asshole.

Speaker 4 (13:29):
And yeah, yeah, I feel like this also means he
might not be that into her. Though he didn't want
to claim territory. He didn't like try to pull her
away from the situation. I guess it could be like
sure of her or sure of himself for sure, but
I think it also just spoke to that.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
Okay, yeah, this is definitely not a date. That's true.
That's true.

Speaker 4 (13:48):
But I think Carrie felt a little bit guilty because
Carry's like immediately like, hey, you said you weren't coming
in a little bit surprised to see him as well,
And he's like, I said I would try to make
it for an hour.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
She's like yeah, but then you said. He's like what
what I say?

Speaker 4 (14:00):
And she was like, oh, never mind, never mind, Because
I really wish they would have played the voicemail, because
what did Carrie pool from that, like he's not coming?
Something came up whereas big as like I said I'd
make it for an hour, like and why wouldn't the
first litigator in her class say, girl, this doesn't mean
that he's not coming. Like, I really wish they would
have played that voicemail to kind of show how Carrie's
mind worked, because they seemed like they had two different

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ideas of what was going down that night. Maybe that
was her also trying not to get too excited, you know,
trying to you know, you're not sure if it's a
date or thing, so you don't want to set yourself
up for disappointment if he doesn't show up. Although she
did seem confused in the back and forth conversation. Maybe
subconsciously she was just trying to trying not to get
too excited. Yeah, and she was like, you know what,
never mind. She didn't say like never mind, I'm lying,

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but like, never mind, we don't have time for that.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
You only got an hour. You're here, let's drink.

Speaker 4 (14:47):
And he's like, actually, I was in line for this
amount of times, and I was looking for you for
that amount of time, and now all I got enough
time to do is tell you that I ain't got
no more time.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
He's like, you have fun, And then Carrie's says, men.

Speaker 3 (15:01):
In their forties are like the New York Times Sunday.

Speaker 6 (15:03):
Classroom puzzle, tricky, complicated and you're never really sure you've
got the right answer.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
Do you feel like older men are a little bit
more complicated than younger men.

Speaker 4 (15:12):
No, I think that women overthink. But it was kind
of like what we just said earlier. I think men
are very simple and they let you know where you
stand and what they said is what they said. And
we like to as women, like to split hairs and
think about reading in between the lines. But no, I
think that you know, you get with you. What's that
face value on office.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
I wouldn't say it.

Speaker 5 (15:33):
Yeah I would. I would agree with you Ulia on
that note. But I also think that dating older men
is not for the week. Like you have to be
a really secure woman that knows yourself, because they will
try you. They have more experience, you know, and they
don't grow up ever, so you know, they see a

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young girl that isn't sure of herself, that doesn't really
know who's she is yet, so they can get away
with playing more games because do they know what they want.
They can drag it along, you know, until as long
as you let them.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
The oldest you let.

Speaker 4 (16:13):
The oldest I ever dated was like, how like thirty
seven or thirty six, and I was like thirty or
twenty nine at the time. And I think the games
that that person played versus the games that other people
play was a game of knowing women and knowing what
they want to hear and dragging that out for as
long as they possibly can, Whereas I feel like young
men don't know how to do that just yet because

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they don't know women just yet. So I can see
how older men can be hard to read. Again, thirty
six isn't that old in the scheme of things, But
I'm not really attracted to old men yet, not so
that I will never be, but old men just don't
do it for me. Little Young Sam is still waiting
there after carrying Big have their conversation. He's like when

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Carrie walks back over to him. He's pretty confident himself too.
He never really asked who that guy was or anything.
He's just like, Yo, this place is tired, Let's get
up out of here. Carrie's like, sure, Sam, John, Carrie
and Young Sam. They all get on a cab and
they go to a club with twenty somethings. Can I
just say, as I'm not even that deep in my
thirties yet, I'm at like a thirty three.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
I don't really like partying with twenty somethings.

Speaker 4 (17:17):
You know, Like I feel like an old ass lady
in the club, like, get out of here.

Speaker 5 (17:21):
I can't even remember the last time I went to
a club.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
I went to a club recently.

Speaker 4 (17:26):
I didn't necessarily know, you don't, you know, I feel
like I look at my twenties, you know. So there's
that meme that's going around like you feel like you're
in your twenties until you start talking and hanging out
with twenty year olds and it's like, oh, yeah, I'm
definitely in my.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
Thirty Yeah, that's so true.

Speaker 4 (17:40):
But I still enjoy myself at the club when I'm
in a mood. I don't think twenty somethings have the
power to make me enjoy, not enjoy my time. Yeah,
CARRY can't believe that Sammy Joe got John to leave
his own opening. But John couldn't be quite at a
place that was on the verge of being tired. Apparently,
hot places in Manhattan have the lifespan of a medfly.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
So they just know it's cool and they know how
to move with it. And I know people that move
like that. I just can't figure it out.

Speaker 4 (18:05):
You guys are so fast with the hot openings and
the time to leave and everything. I just, you know,
I don't know how to read the room like that.
These girls are so hip. Well we're you know, we're
still new to Los Angeles.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
Well I am.

Speaker 4 (18:14):
I mean, I don't know how new I am three
years in. But you got it's about who you know.
You know, you gotta know people. Samantha's a publicist, like,
so of course she's going to know what's happening and
what's not.

Speaker 5 (18:23):
Yeah, it's your John for sure.

Speaker 4 (18:24):
Carry looks around the club and she notices that everyone
there is in their twenties, and she's like, Sam, everybody's
in their twenties. Sam's like, girl, sore so amazed.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
I love Sammy.

Speaker 7 (18:35):
Joe.

Speaker 4 (18:36):
Carrie is amazed at the wide variety of twenty something guys.

Speaker 6 (18:40):
As I glanced around the room, I'm just amazed as
to wide variety of great twenty something guys. The groovy guy,
the corporate guy, the job guys, standard.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
AEI, the groovy guy, the couiper guy, the jock guy.
Y'all knows the jock guy is black. I thought to myself,
why does the jock got to be black? But then
I thought, you know what we do dominate athletically. I mean,
I think even at this past year at the Olympics,
a lot of black athletes won gold medals. So we
I mean, I can't get mad because we genuinely have

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those internal athletic skills.

Speaker 3 (19:13):
I know it is that. And then later on we
find out he's actually a met student.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
Oh that's the same black guy, because I noticed it was.

Speaker 3 (19:21):
No, it's the same people from the club. Are the
ones swing commentary.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
H see.

Speaker 4 (19:28):
I also I think that that narrative is is true.
You know, we do dominate in sports. However, I feel
like it's also limiting to black men because that's what
they think they have to do, because that's what they
see people that look like them doing. Whereas like, why
can't you show that he's a med student to show
that black men can be doctors, or why can't he
be the corporate guy?

Speaker 2 (19:46):
Why do we always have to be the athletes.

Speaker 4 (19:49):
It's just a little bit of a It just makes
me feel like black men can be more and we
don't have to keep perpetuating that narrative.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
But it was the nineties and that's what was normalized.

Speaker 4 (19:57):
I guess, well, I understand that, and I agree with that,
and I don't want to go too off topic, but
I do feel like some of that has to do
with our trauma response to things based on like the
lack of I don't want to say lack of identity,
but the being ripped away from your culture. So I
think that some of that is like a trauma response,
Like sometimes with black people, it's like no matter what
you say, no matter how we're portrayed, we're gonna.

Speaker 2 (20:18):
Have an issue with it.

Speaker 4 (20:19):
It's kind of like production or writers can't do things
right when it comes to representing us. Like you mentioned
in the first episode, our hair got to be done
like that. I think her hair would have no matter
how it would have been, we would have been over
analyzing and looking for a reason to respond a certain way.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
I hear you.

Speaker 4 (20:33):
I definitely think that you could tell when a black
woman's styles another black woman versus when a white woman
styles a black woman. For example, you go on TikTok
and you see a black woman go to a white salon,
you know her hair is not going to turn out
the way it could turn out. You know what I'm saying.
It's just it's facts, you know. I mean, yeah, that
was just an example. My bigger point is I think
that we have an over analytical what we overanalyze how

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black people are portrayed in any public platform. Yeah, I
hear that, but yeah, my point is there stereotypes can
be a little bit harmful to the community.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
But I definitely hear your point as well. Sam the
guy comes over to the couch where Carrie, Sammy, Joe,
and John no H are sitting or last name, and
Sam pulls Carrie onto his lap, and Carrie's like, am
I heavy's He's like you weigh like nothing. She's like, well,
what's cuter than that?

Speaker 4 (21:23):
And that was a little bit cringe for me, But
I don't know why.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
It just made me feel like you're digging for compliments.
Oh it's cuterer than that. I don't know. I don't know.
It just made me a little bit uncomfortable. But Carry's
still adorable. Yeah, It's all a little cringey to me too.

Speaker 4 (21:35):
I think that Carrie is doing too much with this
little guy, this little twenty year old guy that didn't
put no work in. Didn't like they're just I mean,
I know they're having fun and having a good time,
but I don't know. I just didn't like Carrie getting
too close and open with him so easy. Carrie swigged
her pony neck beer and then got even closer to him.
She said, what is it like to kiss with that thing?
He's like, you want to find out? Talking about his

(21:55):
tongue ring, and then they just start making out. She
says that twenty something guys are really good kissers. I
was actually somewhere not too long ago, and a guy
and me were hitting it off. He was laughing, got
all my jokes, but I'm freaking larious. And I also
didn't tell you was furting or not.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
But he was kind of cute.

Speaker 4 (22:14):
He was tall, and again he got my sense of humor,
and I you know, if we can laugh together, you know,
that's a great sign right there. And then I'm like,
you know, how old are you? And he's like, I'm
twenty three. And I said, Auntie, sorry, baby, Auntie is sorry.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
Get out my face.

Speaker 4 (22:29):
But maybe I should have made out with him, like
these girls seeing twenty somethings to kiss. But it's like
I could have birthed you at ten years old.

Speaker 5 (22:35):
Why do you think a twenty something over a forty
year old can kiss better?

Speaker 2 (22:40):
I think, well, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (22:41):
I know when I was in my twenties, I really
used to enjoy kissing a lot, Like I just really
enjoyed it was so fun. I was never shy with kissing,
so it was something I definitely did in my twenties
with whoever I was.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
When I was drunk.

Speaker 4 (22:52):
Yeah, I was a kissing One time I kissed like
two guys at the club.

Speaker 2 (22:56):
Funny stories like that. Yeah, I was a maker router
in my twenties, Like now I overthink. It's like, have
you COVID? Get out of here? Now you gotta work
for it.

Speaker 5 (23:04):
I remember in high school, my friends and I would
keep TIBs like Okay, let's see how many we can get,
and like, uh count, and then at a certain point
I lost count.

Speaker 3 (23:17):
You know what, I still love kissing, but I don't
see myself kissing with a twenty something year old. It
makes me feel old.

Speaker 8 (23:25):
No.

Speaker 4 (23:26):
Same. Since being out here, it's been hard to meet
men my age. I feel like everyone's younger than me.
And there was this one guy who worked at well,
he works over and I was checked him and I
knew he was in his twenties, so I was thinking,
like how I would move with him? Would be playful,
would be light, it would just be kissing. I ultimately

(23:48):
decided not to do it because I felt like I'm
better than that, Like there's nothing to gain from this
little beast food working young man. But I thought it, dude,
I thought that is a root and it is a
really good fast food place, you know, and they had
some good food.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
So if we get some free of that, bring you?

Speaker 8 (24:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (24:06):
The next day, Sammy Joe calls Carrie and says, I
am so fucked.

Speaker 8 (24:13):
So I mean literally, I have been fucked every way
you can be fucked. So we did it with him
on top, May on top, May on my side.

Speaker 3 (24:22):
Came on his side, oh.

Speaker 8 (24:23):
God, yes, on his back, on his side, on his face.
Have you ever done that?

Speaker 2 (24:30):
It's too early to remember.

Speaker 4 (24:31):
Sammy literally had sex with that man that's twenty something
with a strap on.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
I don't know if y'll notice on his side.

Speaker 4 (24:37):
She was in his boody, I thought. And I actually
was on dating app one time and a guy asked
me to do that to him him. Yes, And when
I tell you, I just was so uncomfortable.

Speaker 5 (24:50):
Wait wait, wait wait you hadn't met him yet.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
No, we just connected.

Speaker 4 (24:53):
We were messaging a little bit of times, and he
was like, hey, this is what I worked, this is
what I do. And he was a manager of some
restaurant that I actually frequent and he asked me to
do that and I said, no, you know, I'm not
for you. I'm sorry, that's just not my thing. And
he was like, you know, it's okay. And we ended
up unmatching. But then when I went to go eat
at that restaurant. I don't know who I was with,
but I'm like, that's that guy he likes. You can't

(25:19):
you don't know me till you're comfortable with.

Speaker 7 (25:23):
I didn't.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
I didn't need to know him.

Speaker 4 (25:25):
Him asking me to peg him, I was like, yeah, no,
thinking I just can't imagine looking in a man's butt.

Speaker 2 (25:30):
Like granted earlier, I like but cheeks, not but holes.
Finger in a man's butt. No, absolutely not.

Speaker 3 (25:38):
I do not like no sense, no, no butt play
at all.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
I hear butt plays fun.

Speaker 4 (25:44):
I hear it feels good, and I believe it, but
I have zero interest in any part of it. I mean,
maybe if you want to put your finger there, that's happened,
but I have not found to enjoy it yet.

Speaker 3 (25:55):
So as a receiver still no.

Speaker 5 (25:58):
No.

Speaker 3 (25:58):
Oh, okay, A lot.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
Of people do love the A lot of people love
the butt.

Speaker 4 (26:02):
We'll get into the butt later in this episode.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
Sammy Joe, She's like, did you have sex with young Sam?
Carrie is like, nah, we just kissed.

Speaker 4 (26:16):
She's like, y'all just kiss She's like, yeah, we kissed
for five hours. We kissed outside of the club, on
the side of the club, in front of the club,
like Carrie, I'm so hot and bothered. That's so adorable.

Speaker 2 (26:28):
That's what I love about Carrie.

Speaker 4 (26:29):
She's like so witty with her comebacks and her way
to have conversation, Like you can tell she's a writer.
I like the way she just played on the way
Samantha called her and then said the same thing but
just differently.

Speaker 2 (26:39):
I would love Carrie as a friend.

Speaker 3 (26:40):
I think she cracks me up sometimes.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
Sometimes I did.

Speaker 4 (26:44):
She was She was also witty because she was like
when Carrie, when Samantha called her, She's like, you keep
talking like this, I'm gonna have to charge you, because
she was like, it's dislikes she was like a sex
worker on the phone, you know? Or was that a
sex worker? People have phone sex? Yeah, Like she was
a sex worker the way she was giving it. And
then I also like how aid Carrie, like have you
ever done that? And Carrie is like it's too early
to remember. So these girls always going to like details

(27:05):
about how they come and all this other stuff, and
Cary kind of never shares too much, but she never
really judges either.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
She always listens like carry her.

Speaker 4 (27:13):
Yeah, Carrie's uh, sex talk or sex scenes are always
very cute thieve, very demure, like she's never doing as
much as the rest of the girls are doing.

Speaker 5 (27:22):
I think she keeps it very vanilla.

Speaker 4 (27:24):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, And the writers keep it vanilla for her,
like yeah, they really preserve the main character. You know,
they could have wrote that wrongchiness for her, but they
for some reason they didn't.

Speaker 3 (27:33):
She wasn't open to it.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
And was she a producer? She was executive producer.

Speaker 4 (27:37):
That's why she was paid and that's why there was
beef between her and Sammy Joe, according to the rumors.

Speaker 2 (27:41):
Make sure you check out our bonus episodes. We'll get
into that.

Speaker 4 (27:44):
As Carrie's telling Samantha about all the kissing that she
did and her lips still being stolen from the five
hours of kissing that she took heart in, she sees
his number on her arm and she's like, I just
left him. Why am I craving him? She's like, are
men in their twenties new designer drugs? Sam Miranda and
carry they're recreational users of these young somethings, but maybe

(28:06):
they're getting into something that they can't handle. Well, I'm
gonna say hell no, men in the twenties are not
a designer drug. I think Carrie probably just was off
a high from a good night, you know, especially since
mister Big didn't come through or didn't stay long. So
I've had those nights where you just had like a
bomb ass time with random strangers and you wake up
the next day just like want to do it all

(28:27):
over again. I think that's what Carrie's feeling. I do
love and this is another testament to the writers.

Speaker 2 (28:32):
Just chef Kiss.

Speaker 4 (28:33):
I don't know if you've noticed, but as she compared
them to recreational drugs in the beginning, she also uses
the analogy like throughout the episode. I don't know if
you guys noticed, like I was felling high as high
and then low as well.

Speaker 2 (28:44):
But we'll get into all that. I just the writers
are so genius with the way they execute these messages.

Speaker 4 (28:49):
I do agree hell no to the twenty something men
being recreational drugs. They're attracted to these young men for
various reasons. But why are these young men attracted to them?

Speaker 2 (28:58):
We go to the streets.

Speaker 7 (29:00):
It in the thirties. I'm just so grateful. It's like
every whull shit nice thing you do is like throwing
to the starving to get great and know a lot
about want all.

Speaker 3 (29:11):
They know where they are and what they want.

Speaker 2 (29:13):
And I like that two were smart.

Speaker 4 (29:17):
That first dude play, I was like damn, Like I
broke out laughing, like throwing what do you say, throwing
food to the starving?

Speaker 2 (29:24):
Like yeah, let me not look twice at another.

Speaker 3 (29:28):
Twee year old. How about the guy who said who
that older woman reminds him of his mom?

Speaker 7 (29:34):
Eh?

Speaker 2 (29:35):
Loved it.

Speaker 4 (29:36):
I feel like it's a low key mother's dream for
your son to bring home someone.

Speaker 5 (29:41):
Who looks like you represents you.

Speaker 2 (29:45):
I sound like a mother in law from hell.

Speaker 4 (29:47):
Yeah, I mean you don't have to act like a
bitch based on it. I mean a mother in law
might you know, be what's the word jealous of their
daughter because they're going to start in law because they're
gonna start taking care of the sun or whatever.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
But I don't know.

Speaker 4 (29:58):
I think it's a not like you know, your son
looks up to you, he holds you in high esteem
as a mom, But as a girlfriend, how do you
feel that he wants you to be his mom or
like his mom? Yeah, I mean as a mom as
a girlfriend, I don't think I'll be offended by it.
I think you can overthink it and think of it
like incest, or you can definitely go down that thought process.

(30:19):
And I see that for sure, But I don't think
you have to take it there because it is said
that women apparently date men that are like their dad
or find their dad in some way, shape or form.

Speaker 3 (30:28):
Yeah, to a extent. But going back to Leah's point,
I feel like if a guy is looking for someone
resembling his mother, it's mostly because he wants a woman
to mother him.

Speaker 5 (30:41):
And that's It's different when it's when it's physical. You
want the person to resemble your mother, like literally look
like her.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
Yeah, that's weird.

Speaker 5 (30:50):
But to have the qualities of a good or whatever
they identify as a good woman or someone that's respectable.
And you know that's.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
Because I think that's what Jersey Sure wants.

Speaker 4 (31:00):
Vinnie wants to a woman like his mom, And granted,
Vinnie from the Jersey Shore, his mom is top notch.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
So if I was Bennie would also want a.

Speaker 5 (31:05):
Woman like your model, right, you know that's true.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
That's true. It doesn't have to be weird.

Speaker 4 (31:09):
You're right, Yeah, I here, Chelsea, I'm not gonna die
on this mountain for sure, I think all those all
those aspects are true, and I think it does translate
to like when a woman find wants to find someone
who's like her dad, whether you know whether he looks
like or what it's like, the energy, or how they
make you feel. And that dude who says smart pussy
was in high school, so he just needs to shut
the hell up. Or you shouldn't be having sex.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
A lot of damn, a lot of high schoolers are
having sex, but you shouldn't be talking about you know
what you're doing. That's true, so shut the hell up.

Speaker 4 (31:38):
And you shouldn't be dating thirty somethings because the thirty
somethings that are giving your high school as a chance
or actually pedophiles young Yeah, yeah, yeah. Miranda says there
aren't any single men in their thirties married Giorliani had
them all removed with the homeless, which I thought was
a real funny joke. They're so silly, but oh yeah,
that goes to your point about it's hard to meet
single men our age in LA like they either older

(31:59):
or you.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
I like men my age.

Speaker 5 (32:01):
We are ten years mature. Then the men are aged,
so you're dating a twenty something year old, that's your age.
That doesn't make any sense to me.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
I definitely have mature men that.

Speaker 5 (32:14):
Yes, that's all I may, well you are immature, kayla, Okay,
but yeah, I definitely like the doctors and the plumber
like the people that have like there are mature mac.
I know, she's just like just because they have a

(32:38):
good career. Like I've dated a thirty year year old
like very successful uh like physician who owned his practice,
but his character, the way he conducted himself immature just
reminded me like, oh my goodness.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
I think experiences with them and that's okay.

Speaker 5 (32:54):
Because you know, I'm so advanced, you know.

Speaker 4 (32:59):
Yeah, I did think, oh, sorry, no, go friendly. I
was just gonna say, I do think maturity is relative.
I think that is the statement men women mature faster
than men for whatever reason. I don't think that means
that you can't meet a man your age who you're
not equally yoked with. I don't think it's an end all,
be all statement, but I am. I did have to
ask myself recently, why am I not attracted like men

(33:20):
in their forties? Why am I attracting men there are
like thirty three thirty two, even like in their twenties.
So something that in me does want to shift where
I'm attracted a well established grown ass man.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
Do you think do you.

Speaker 4 (33:30):
Think and this is just like a random question, but
do you think like a part of you wanting like
thirty somethings or twenty somethings, is you still like being
like grasping on your youth and not excepting that we're
aging and we're no looking at forty.

Speaker 2 (33:41):
Yeah, I'm not going to say that's not the case.

Speaker 4 (33:43):
I think I even mentioned, like thought of that as
I was watching an episode that I am attached to
my youth. Oh when Sammy realizes that, you know that
part of because I thought like, yeah, like I wouldn't
like that he is so attached to my youth.

Speaker 5 (33:54):
But what if they remind you the younger Like dating
a younger man, wouldn't they remind you how much older
you are, rather than if you date an older man
who reminds you how young you are.

Speaker 2 (34:05):
Because that's Sam's point when we get there.

Speaker 4 (34:08):
Yeah, you might be right. I mean you have to
be secure on yourself to date a younger man. True,
probably are going to feel at some point insecure about it.

Speaker 3 (34:16):
So ideally I want to date a guy who is
closer to my age but is mature. But for me,
it's really hard, or what I've noticed is really hard
to find men around my age who don't have any children.

Speaker 5 (34:32):
Yeah, try dating older they all have kids.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
True that, It is true.

Speaker 4 (34:42):
Men that are like divorced or have been in long
term relationships or for lack of a better word, already
trained to be boyfriends and husbands. So they just kind
of naturally act like that with you because that's just
what all they because that's just all they know, and
that's kind of all they've been doing.

Speaker 5 (34:54):
For like their applied and every year they learn from
like the first divorce. Yeah, you know.

Speaker 3 (35:00):
Yeah, And you know what, I can't help but be
not interested in forty year old men because I don't know,
I just think that's old. But then I forget I'm
almost forty myself. But I still I'm like, I know,
think you're old.

Speaker 4 (35:15):
Yeah, I agree, I think maybe growing up, our vision
of what forty was appears old. But I was out
recently a man was talking about how he's about to
turn forty this month or whatever, and I thought, Okay,
like he looks kind of good, you know. So I
think that hopefully the more we meet, you can find
that they do. They're youthful too, Like forty year olds
are looking good these days. I remember when we were
talking about the modelizer in the last episode, and he

(35:37):
was thirty forty, he looked one hundred and two. So yeah,
growing up in the nineties, I think that forty something
thirty somethings look so much.

Speaker 2 (35:43):
Older than they do today.

Speaker 4 (35:44):
Definitely because I look young anyway, Carrie says, why are
we with these younger guys? Miranda says good sex. Carrie
is like, I'm not even having sex, I'm just kissing.
And I just want to say I had a lot
better sex with thirty somethings in twenty somethings, like they
barely know what they're doing.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
Ye, haven't had sex with too.

Speaker 4 (36:03):
Many guys in their twenties since there was.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
Just that one.

Speaker 4 (36:08):
I had one younger dude. He sucked so hard. I
hope he doesn't listen. Yeah, he's usually supportive of my projects,
but he wasn't.

Speaker 2 (36:16):
Very good in the bed. But who knows what he's
learned over the years.

Speaker 3 (36:19):
I mean, I've had really sucky partners who were in
their thirties, and you'd expect them to have some sort
of knowledge.

Speaker 4 (36:26):
But even then, no, Now I have some men in
the thirties. Girl, my mom is blown. So I can
say Miranda because it got carries like we're just kissing.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
Miranda is like, it's just a fling.

Speaker 4 (36:43):
We're not changing our schedules for them and carries its.

Speaker 5 (36:49):
It's not like we're throwing out our schedules or anything.

Speaker 6 (36:51):
Ooh, sweaty, I gotta go young. I'm late for a
meeting with my editor.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
Oh if fine. I didn't want to tell her.

Speaker 6 (36:57):
I canceled bunch with my editor to go to Banana
Republic to help twenty something stams picking.

Speaker 7 (37:01):
On a shirt.

Speaker 2 (37:02):
I see that.

Speaker 4 (37:03):
I agree with it. I think that what Miranda's saying.
It's like, yeah, when you're dating a guy in your twenties,
there's not as much pressure, there's not as much stress.
I think the woman would have more control in that situation.
So it is like that do what I tell you.
You're eager to please me, like because you're looking up
to me, like you see me as something that's mature
and something that you got to elevate too.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
So I see that perspective, I wish. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (37:26):
I'm not mad at Carrie for not for lying or whatever,
but like, what's the point, You're grown, If that's what
you want to do, that's what you want to.

Speaker 2 (37:33):
Do, It didn't matter.

Speaker 4 (37:35):
And then like I canceld on my editor to go
make out with this twenty something, Like, if that's what
you want to do, it's fine. Why are you lying
or playing a role? It's just corny to me a
little bit. But to be just on I guess, yeah,
it's her prerogative. Like I feel like you have the
right to play your cards close to your trust and
you don't owe everybody a play by play, so I
don't think you'll lie either, though. I mean, I just

(37:56):
think you don't have to tell everybout your business. Nobody's
entitled to know with your schedule list. I get that point, though,
what's the point, But I just don't think you have
to be obligated to tell people your play by black.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
No you don't. You don't.

Speaker 4 (38:08):
But if you don't know how it's gonna end up with, dude,
so you're not ready to share what's gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (38:12):
So yeah, I gotta go, girl, i'll see you later. Girl.

Speaker 3 (38:15):
You don't. She doesn't have to say anything, but she
does have a tendency to ditch her friends for men
a little bit. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (38:23):
Yeah, But I also think that she she waits until
other people mention it and then she chimes in like,
oh okay, let me try it, versus her trying it
out and then being open about it and transparent. Because
I agree with you, Aliah, like you don't have to
tell everybody everything. But Carrie does open up a lot
with her friends, and she just picks and choose when

(38:44):
she wants to and when she feels more comfortable, and
like she waits until she feels okay, everyone's talking about it, Okay,
now I can.

Speaker 2 (38:51):
Share it right right.

Speaker 4 (38:53):
Carrie is acting like a little young girl making out
in the UH where they have banana republic. Yeah, making
out in the dressing room. I've been in a republic.
While she helps a little twenty something sae, I'm trying
on his shirts. The guy walks in and he's like, y'all,
this isn't say the gap or something like that, like
that's not making out here, and he walks out and
they continue to make out.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
So she's just living like a little young girl.

Speaker 4 (39:12):
And I must say, watching this episode, it's like, am
I being too strict with myself? Maybe I should have
more fun and be more free. These girls just live
so freely. They don't really care too much. I really
kind of admire that about.

Speaker 5 (39:24):
But they do, like they do, they do care. And
the thing is like, if you genuinely didn't care, you
don't want to be in a relationship. You just wanted
to have fun. Great, but it's just like when you
want that fun to turn into something serious and you
do it, then it's just like, come on, just be
real with yourself. Are you going to get attached to
this person? Most likely you will, but you know, like

(39:48):
you have to. I don't know. I just think that
you're just doing it because you're bored.

Speaker 2 (39:54):
Yeah, not because she wants anything. Well, she is just
a funny thing.

Speaker 5 (39:57):
Yeah, but she's canceling on her editor to have think
about like, oh can this turn into something? She did
say that why does it have to always turn into something?
Why not just have the fun and then move on.

Speaker 4 (40:08):
Well, I don't think she she always intends it on
it to turn into something, But she genuinely start started
to like him. The more she started hanging out with him,
and the more he started kissing on her, she was like, Oh,
I really like this guy. Maybe we can have more
than a fling. Maybe he could be a potential boyfriend.
Speaking of potential boyfriends, in the next scene, she refers
to Big as the crossword puzzle and he asks her

(40:28):
out for another.

Speaker 2 (40:29):
Starts with tea five letter word thing? Did you get
the writers? I love it so much? He's even they're
doing there, he's a crossword puzzle? Five letter words? Starts
with tea, oh genius.

Speaker 4 (40:39):
She's getting ready for that thing with mister Big. When
Charlotte calls her. She's like, yo, sure, I can't. I
can't talk. I'm running late for a thing, so have emergency.
Please just talk real quick, all right. Get to the
point up and Charlotte's trying to start to explain to
her it was about Brian and she's like.

Speaker 2 (40:56):
What what Charlotte? What did your perfect boyfriend do?

Speaker 1 (40:58):
Now?

Speaker 4 (40:58):
And it was like, okay, girl, are you waiting for me?
Like I don't know, I don't know. I didn't like,
what would your perfect boyfriend do?

Speaker 2 (41:04):
Now? Like I don't want to tell you no more
because now you're judging me. Whatever's But when.

Speaker 4 (41:08):
We found out what the Perfect Boyfriend said, well we
actually didn't find out.

Speaker 2 (41:12):
They didn't show what Charlotte said.

Speaker 4 (41:13):
All they show was Carrie say all right, I'll be
there in ten minutes. And then when she met up
with Charlotte, Charlotte said that seeing each.

Speaker 2 (41:22):
Other for a couple of weeks, I really like you.

Speaker 5 (41:24):
Tomorrow night after dinner, I want us to have anal sex.

Speaker 4 (41:28):
That's what her Perfect Boyfriend asked her if they could
have anal sex. So they've been dating for a while now,
and I don't know if that's a.

Speaker 2 (41:35):
Thing I'd get all my girlfriends in one.

Speaker 4 (41:38):
Well, I think I like just seeing Carrie show up
for a friend in that moment. I know we give
carry a lot of what's the word flexaxa word, but
you know she did prioritize her of her in that moment.

Speaker 3 (41:48):
So yeah, I think they made a bigger deal out
of this than necessary. I mean, does Charlotte forget that
she can say no and that's it. I don't. I
didn't understand. And again, it's the nineties, you know they're
pushing boundaries for in this show, But in twenty twenty four,

(42:11):
like is that really a big deal?

Speaker 4 (42:13):
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing because of the
times it might have been. And I was young, of course,
so I don't even know what the sex scene was like.
But yeah, I think for the times that might have
been a bizarre request. And then Charlotte is, you know
a wife, she graduated Smith.

Speaker 2 (42:26):
Yeah she what did she say?

Speaker 4 (42:27):
She she values a clean bed and she says something later, but.

Speaker 2 (42:31):
So yeah, I think for Charlotte was just extremely off putting.

Speaker 4 (42:34):
They picked up Miranda because this is a huge deal,
and then they picked up Sam, and Sam.

Speaker 2 (42:39):
Says, care a whole, it's a do it whole, is
a whole.

Speaker 3 (42:44):
I like her little comment towards Miranda that she could
use some of that action, and she's like, wait, what's
said to Miranda, like saying like she needs she needs
to get some because she's so uptight, uptight.

Speaker 4 (42:57):
Mad Well, in Miranda's event, she is getting laid by skippers,
so she's pretty happy sexually. Samantha thinks Anal's fabulous, and Carrie,
I mean, Miranda thinks it can be about the control.

Speaker 2 (43:09):
If you do it, you can lose the control.

Speaker 4 (43:11):
He could either respect you more or respect you less
if you do this, and again I guess ain, but
my butt's off the table, like I don't. I don't
do it. I don't play them games like you will not,
you will not.

Speaker 2 (43:21):
I don't do that. I don't do that. I'm not
gonna do that. Ah, not my butt.

Speaker 4 (43:25):
But and I think because I had a cousin when
I was younger, I had to be like in my
formative years.

Speaker 2 (43:32):
And my cousin was.

Speaker 4 (43:33):
Grown and she came home after her first experience with
anal and she went into vivid detail about how much
it hurt and how painful it was.

Speaker 2 (43:42):
And I, again was too young. I wasn't even having sex.

Speaker 4 (43:44):
I was just like, that is something I will never
do as a thirty year old something woman. I still
feel that way, and I have friends that have done it,
and I do hear it's painful if you're not relaxed.
How you're gonna relax if it's gonna be hurting anyway.

Speaker 3 (43:57):
I do agree that anal sex could be is something
for a more stable relationship. They're just dating. I don't
even know if they're being exclusive at this point in
this fool is asking for anal sex, and poor Charlotte
is like freaking out.

Speaker 4 (44:11):
You know, yeah, norms because at the end of the day,
from what I also understand about anal is it's likely
that you will have an accident or you'll have something
on his peepee And I swear I could be with
you for ten thousand years, but if I shit in.

Speaker 2 (44:22):
The bed, I will never talk to you again. I'm
dying a familiation, Like, oh my god.

Speaker 3 (44:26):
No, yeah, yeah, I couldn't. But never mind. I was
just gonna say, like I think anal sex it's something
that you build up too, Like you can start with
butt play, butt play, and then you anal sex would
be like the last thing, but from one day to another.

Speaker 2 (44:46):
No, yeah, no, yeah.

Speaker 4 (44:47):
It seems like once they've been dating for like two
or three weeks in this show, it's like that's kind
of a stable relationship, like that that's dating in Manhattan
back in the nineties. I do agree that when you
have sex, whether it's anal or not, you give up
some level of well, you never know how much power
or respect you may lose or not say, you never know.
I guess you never should be having any form of
sex with somebody until you've built up and have some

(45:09):
level of foundation. So I just get the point of
losing some respect when you let someone do that to you.

Speaker 2 (45:15):
Yeah, this early on.

Speaker 4 (45:16):
And I also think he was gaming her into doing it,
Like the way she told the story, it was like, oh,
we've been dating, I'm really into you, or I forgot
what he said and I think now it's.

Speaker 2 (45:24):
Time to have anal sex.

Speaker 9 (45:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (45:26):
Bro, we're just doing regular, regular shit that you should
be doing. It doesn't mean we need be having anal sex.

Speaker 5 (45:32):
It's only been three weeks, right, imagine a month, you know,
two months.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
Well.

Speaker 4 (45:40):
Also, the reason Carrie picked up Miranda and Sam was
because this is a big deal in the nineties, This
is a huge deal.

Speaker 2 (45:46):
We don't know if you're going to do anal or not.

Speaker 4 (45:47):
I carry about you, my girl, but I got a
date with my favorite man or a thing with my
favorite man.

Speaker 2 (45:52):
That I'm interested in, and I could go. I got
to go.

Speaker 4 (45:55):
So she finally goes to her thing with mister Big,
and she's like, finally we're alone.

Speaker 2 (46:01):
They're not alone.

Speaker 4 (46:02):
BIG's friend apparently is going through some kind of divorce
and Big needs to be there for him, and Carrie
is a really understanding about the situation.

Speaker 2 (46:11):
She says, do you forgive me.

Speaker 7 (46:14):
Here's what.

Speaker 3 (46:15):
Why don't you two have a guy's night? You know,
talk cry?

Speaker 2 (46:19):
Shoot there, I'm way behind on my colin.

Speaker 6 (46:21):
Anyway, next round on me.

Speaker 2 (46:26):
We'll do our sing another time?

Speaker 5 (46:28):
Are you sure?

Speaker 3 (46:29):
Absoluly?

Speaker 4 (46:31):
I love that she used his line is the power
flip right here with Carrie on if y'all saw it?

Speaker 3 (46:37):
Oh yeah, respected her in this one instance.

Speaker 4 (46:42):
I love the way she handled it like she did
not seem pressed and it was not up to her standard.

Speaker 2 (46:47):
Oh this will be doing.

Speaker 4 (46:48):
I'm mad at you, but I'm definitely out and higel
the money for your next round.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
It was the best way to handle it. I was
so proud of her. It was really really classy. It
was really really classy.

Speaker 4 (46:57):
I was super proud of Carrie too, even though she's
been looking forward to one on one time with this
man or their thing that hasn't been able to happen.
She's like, this definitely ain't it. And he even.

Speaker 2 (47:07):
Offered the guy Jack was going to bring over a girl.

Speaker 4 (47:09):
It would have been a double date type thing, and
Carry's like, this isn't what I signed up for.

Speaker 2 (47:14):
I'm out of here.

Speaker 4 (47:15):
And although she actually didn't know how to fill she
walked for forty eight blocks and four hundred dollars shoes
because she left her because she left her cab fare
on the table, which is also super classy. Because I
don't care how much money I got, what you're not
going to do here?

Speaker 2 (47:28):
I got it.

Speaker 5 (47:29):
I would never would I would. I would walk away
for sure, but I wouldn't give no money, not even
a tip. I would take a drink to go.

Speaker 2 (47:41):
Quater mil to go okay jack sign. Yeah, but I
do like the way carry handled it, for sure. Yeah.
But what does she do after she meets up with
twenty something same so he can kiss her and make
her feel all better. But the kisses weren't working. She
said she needed something more.

Speaker 4 (47:59):
But then we don't know what that more is like,
because we go to shar and Brian and she tells
him that she can't do anal.

Speaker 2 (48:07):
I can't, Brian, I can't. I want to, but I can't.
I mean, actually no, that's not true.

Speaker 5 (48:13):
I don't want to, or maybe I do.

Speaker 6 (48:14):
I don't know what I want, but I'm afraid if
I don't, then you'll dump me.

Speaker 2 (48:17):
And if I do, then I'll be the up the
butt girl.

Speaker 6 (48:19):
And I don't want to be the up the buck girl,
because I mean, men don't marry the up the butt girl.

Speaker 2 (48:24):
Whoever heard of missus up the butt, missus up the butt?
I don't.

Speaker 4 (48:29):
I will say I that is a little bit of
nineties thinking, because I do know plenty of freaky women
who do freaky things and still get wiped up.

Speaker 2 (48:38):
So I think that that is very limited thinking, very.

Speaker 5 (48:42):
And it's more than that. I think that it goes
to the fact that they like put men at such
high pedestal where I think the line where she says like, oh,
I don't want you to like dump me or you
know we're gonna break up or whatever.

Speaker 2 (48:58):
You won't respect me anymore?

Speaker 4 (49:00):
Who marries messing up the butt or something like that
before that, oh okay, or she was afraid if he
was going to break up with her because and it's
just like, girl, just walk away.

Speaker 5 (49:08):
Like the mentality there, like if he is not willing
to respect your boundaries, that's on him. But you're trying
to save a relationship based on what he wants rather
than what makes you feel comfortable and what you want
Matt true, Dana.

Speaker 3 (49:22):
And if he's gonna judge you for something that he's
also partaking in that's a shitty person right therm.

Speaker 2 (49:27):
And with a shitty dick. Yeah, to see, I did
that shut on your dick.

Speaker 4 (49:35):
But I will say he asked her this question. She
had to call her girlfriends. They all had to have
this whole talk about it. She's overthinking it and then
she's spitting you know, what is it called word vomiting
on what's not necessarily word vomiting, but just spinning it
onto him. All her anxieties like I don't know, I can't,
I don't want to. I don't know what I want,
but I just can't. You won't marry me. If I do,
I won't be missing up with the button. And she's
like having all these feelings and he's just like, all right,

(49:57):
so can we just fuck? He didn't care about it
at all, like he was so I don't know if
that's all he wanted, but it was just like, all right, girl,
I don't care.

Speaker 2 (50:06):
I'm just trying to get my net off.

Speaker 5 (50:07):
Like the fact that she didn't want to lose power,
but you lose power when you admit that he has
all this over you. So it's like you girl.

Speaker 4 (50:16):
I feel like she could have communicated her concerns in
a different way. I think she likes the guy, so
of course you're going to like care about how your
actions may push him away or not to a certain extent,
I think, like, I definitely think it's cool to stand
in your power and set your boundaries. But I don't
think it's wrong to think about the best way to
handle something because you like somebody. But whatever's gonna happen

(50:37):
is going to happen, you know, based on how you feel.
So you got to get comfortable expressing yourself.

Speaker 5 (50:41):
Or she could have suggested like, hey, I'll give it
up to you, but when I get the ring, I'm
gonna three hundred dollars.

Speaker 3 (50:54):
But again, all of this shows just Charlotte's desperation to
get married so much that she's freaking out that this
guy is asking for anal and showing his true colors.
And instead of you know, her being the bigger person
being like, no, I don't want to and.

Speaker 2 (51:14):
This is it.

Speaker 4 (51:14):
You know, this is over. But well, they ended up
having sex in the regular way. They had polite, respectful
sex on three hundred count Egyptian cotton sheets. And polite
respectful sex seems so oviella and boring. But I mean,
there's a line between anal and polite, respectful sex. But
that's what Charlotte likes. I can imagine Charlotte having vanilla sex.

Speaker 2 (51:33):
Yeah, Charlotte's a freak. You don't get into that.

Speaker 4 (51:35):
People follow asleep, people fall asleep inside of Charlotte. But
we'll also get to that. Meanwhile, Samantha having the nasty
sex that we know her to have. Just finish having
sex with Hello, twenty something John, the hottest chef in town,
and he says, after they have sex, you know.

Speaker 7 (51:55):
Like that you have the cutest little wrinkles.

Speaker 4 (51:58):
In your neck, the cutest little wrinkles in your neck.
I die probably. I mean, I don't know how old
Samantha is in this episode, Like what is she? She probably
thirty five at this point. I don't even know which
is our age, right, And damn you know.

Speaker 3 (52:13):
She's older than the thirty five year old.

Speaker 2 (52:14):
Well this is season one, No, she's so older, but
five years older than them five Carrie is thirty five,
not in season one. I think she's like thirty three.

Speaker 1 (52:28):
Forty.

Speaker 3 (52:29):
I think Samantha's in her.

Speaker 4 (52:30):
Forties when it ends she's turning fifty, right, Oh really, yeah?

Speaker 2 (52:34):
I feel like they bring her cake.

Speaker 3 (52:35):
On because she she it's definitely known that she's older
than all.

Speaker 4 (52:40):
I was thinking like five years older, but you know,
they probably could have changed her age gap.

Speaker 2 (52:43):
Throughout the series.

Speaker 4 (52:45):
True, nobody ever commented on my wrinkles because I don't
have any yet, but I did have braces at an older.

Speaker 2 (52:52):
Age, and I smiled at someone and he.

Speaker 4 (52:54):
Said, oh, I love when older women have races.

Speaker 2 (53:02):
I was twenty five at that point, so that did
not feel good. That definitely didn't feel good.

Speaker 4 (53:08):
So to your point earlierly and when you were saying that,
you know, you got how Samantha felt. When it goes
to dating older or younger men, you will always be older,
and there's something nice about being young. Although I do
feel like society has an obsession with youth when we
do age naturally, and we should really praise that too
instead of trying to grasp onto these this thing that's

(53:29):
you know, impossible for us to stay forever young. But
I also would want somebody commenting on the wrinkles on
my neck after I just had sex with them.

Speaker 2 (53:36):
I'm mad at the new age sixty year old.

Speaker 4 (53:38):
Okay, looking at Angela Bassett and get j Low's she's
not sixty yet, and I know when we may or
may not fuck with Jayla.

Speaker 2 (53:46):
But that's my girl. But I appreciate it.

Speaker 4 (53:49):
You know, it makes me excited to get a little older,
not excited because I'm you know, it's still I have
to go through the emotions. But I know that I
can still look good as long as I take care
of myself. So I appreciate true. But Sam heard that,
and Sam quit twenty somethings right then and there. Dump
that guy went cold turkey with the twenty somethings.

Speaker 2 (54:05):
I am dating older man from this point for cold
turkey is another play on the substance use. Really, oh right,
all the I love you guys shut up.

Speaker 4 (54:19):
Remember Carrie said that the kisses weren't enough and she
wanted some more. So she ended up having sex with
a little young Sam and it was absolutely amazing. She
said she was so high, she felt so good, and
the second she thought she couldn't get any higher or
feel any better.

Speaker 2 (54:36):
He spooned her, making her feel you for it.

Speaker 4 (54:40):
I feel like that high don't last long at all.
You know that's gonna be short lived? And what three
days later, she's gonna be like, I don't know, you know,
if that I just feel like, you know, those highs
don't last long exactly, because when she woke up wanting
more of that high, she looked around in the morning, like,
and she saw candles from urban outfitters, dirty laundry, a

(55:08):
pizza box. She was in a twenty something apartment and
she didn't like it. And then he wakes up.

Speaker 9 (55:14):
He's like, yo, I had this crazy dream that my girl,
my ex girlfriend, and my dad was aaronydding you were
there too, And he's just going on and on about
this dream while she's just disgusted in his apartment and
she's like, coffee, I neat coffee.

Speaker 4 (55:27):
So she goes downstairs. She's like, it's in the kitchen.
She can't find the filters.

Speaker 5 (55:31):
Oh my goodness, I know, and mind you.

Speaker 2 (55:33):
The apartment is absolutely disgusting.

Speaker 4 (55:35):
Like it's not even like just poor decoration or like
it's just filth. It's absolute filth. And I'm like, you
couldn't notice that last night you aren't even drunk. Yeah,
I feel like beyond drinks in a good time, there's
not really much you can expect from these twenty some things,
Like what do you expect when you walk into a
twenty year old somebody's apartment.

Speaker 2 (55:51):
I mean, I actually have been in a classy twenty
year old apartment. But that's why I think he was mature.

Speaker 8 (55:56):
That was.

Speaker 3 (55:59):
The one who works the fast.

Speaker 5 (56:01):
I didn't have him.

Speaker 4 (56:02):
I chose not to devour him. I got too much pride.
I'm in a new era right now for the past year.

Speaker 3 (56:09):
Yeah, that that apartment was so cringe though. And you
know what, the first time I went to New York,
I went to a friends apartment and it was exactly
that kind of layout. No, no, immediately, no immediately, yeah, norms.

Speaker 4 (56:25):
But Carrie couldn't find the filters. She's like, I'll make
you the coffee. She's like, all right, I'm going to
the bathroom. You make the Coffee's still trying to tell
her about the dream. She's like, ah, coffee, I'm gonna
go to the bathroom.

Speaker 2 (56:35):
Shut up.

Speaker 4 (56:35):
She is so over him at that point, so she's
like on squatting. She's not sitting on the toilet obviously,
because his apartment is disgusting.

Speaker 2 (56:41):
She also ran into his roommate. He looks like a
disgust too.

Speaker 4 (56:44):
Anyway, she's squatting over his toilet, and she's like, she
wanted to get out of there.

Speaker 2 (56:49):
With every fiber of her being.

Speaker 4 (56:50):
She is feeling lower than low, which is another drug reference,
because I hear that's how it works when you're high
or high, but what's the high words off?

Speaker 2 (56:56):
You are rock bottom beat. Yeah. So she sees as
she's squatting.

Speaker 4 (57:02):
That there's no toilet paper, and she's like, yo, you
out of toilet paper. He's like, oh, I just used
the last of it to make the coffee. So he's
using toilet paper for coffee filters, which I didn't even
know what's possible. Just immediately now, as Norms would say,
immediately now. She immediately replaced her addiction to twenty somethings
with her shoe addiction, which again another drug reference. These
writers Chef's Kiss and after some retail therapy, she runs

(57:25):
into mister bic Well. First she saw the guy Jack
that hijacked their date. She's like, why do I we
see the guys I don't want to see and never
the guys I.

Speaker 2 (57:36):
His little que head up Batty.

Speaker 4 (57:38):
I do have a thought though, Yeah, is this where
Carrie's shoe addiction was birthed?

Speaker 2 (57:44):
Did she talk about shoes as much in.

Speaker 5 (57:46):
The first three episodes, she didn't.

Speaker 2 (57:49):
Is this literally when she became addicted to shoes?

Speaker 4 (57:52):
Possibly, or maybe that's when the writer start started to
incorporate that characteristic about her, But you're right, they never
really talked too much about shoes before. Before episode four,
Big is doing a crossword puzzle, which again, are y'all.

Speaker 2 (58:03):
Picking up with the writers or putting down? Y'all?

Speaker 4 (58:05):
Are y'all putting pick it upward puzzle? She said, like,
you know, to five letter words, and then she solves
his crosswear puzzle and she says, hinge, what.

Speaker 6 (58:18):
A cross rod puzzles five letter word to bring together?

Speaker 3 (58:22):
Hinge?

Speaker 2 (58:23):
Do y'all see the writing right there? Yes, bring together?

Speaker 4 (58:28):
Okay, okay, and they are going to be bought together
by the hend I just can't.

Speaker 2 (58:34):
I can kiss you all writers. I love you guys.
He follows her out after she solves his puzzle. He's like,
you know, I could have got that on my own,
but he is so into carry at this point.

Speaker 4 (58:44):
I think it's undeniable at this point for personal I
mean personally, that's what I think.

Speaker 2 (58:48):
He asks her out and she.

Speaker 8 (58:49):
Says, I don't know, I'm going to crossword puzzles.

Speaker 2 (58:54):
I'm just not so good at a puzzles. Anywhere you are,
just you.

Speaker 4 (59:00):
Call it anywhere you want, just you and me. I
think he's finally getting it together for her. Yeah, she's
definitely owning her power in this moment. She said a boundary,
letting him know, like I'm not into the puzzle. I'm
not into the game, Like what's it gonna be? Or
what was it not gonna be? Because twice you didn't
meet my expectation? So I just love this for Carrie
getting her power back for sure.

Speaker 6 (59:21):
As I walked away, I had a thought, maybe all
men are drug Sometimes they bring you down, and sometimes,
like now, they get you so high.

Speaker 2 (59:31):
It would have been so cool if I hadn't looked back.
She always doing so corky, but I love it so much.

Speaker 4 (59:36):
Men are like drugs. They get you so high, they
get you so low. But that's also love in general.
I feel like men will probably say the same thing
about women.

Speaker 5 (59:43):
Uh, that's if you'll allow them to be your drug,
Like get higher on yourself, you know, like be addicted
to yourself so that you won't be dependent on someone
else's highs or lows because someone doesn't text you, someone
doesn't call you back. Oh my god. You know these
girls were panic and there's I mean, it's still relevant
to today's you know, culture, and I think a lot

(01:00:06):
of what I'm seeing, especially on my for you page
on TikTok, a lot of women are setting boundaries and
loving themselves and prioritizing themselves and getting the best treatment
from men that they would originally like chase energetically, you know.
So now like men like mister big, you set the boundaries, like, oh,

(01:00:28):
you set the tone how you want to be respected
and treated, then they're gonna act accordingly. But if you
think everything's okay, don't worry about it. Oh yeah, that's fine.
You accept everything. They're gonna what's the point. You know,
they're not gonna change. They're not gonna they're gonna think
that you accept anything.

Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
Well, I do.

Speaker 4 (01:00:45):
Also, you know, women who are who are married or
in happier relationships like they are, like their husbands give
them so high, like and it's a healthy thing. It's
a happy thing, you know, it's not. It doesn't necessarily
have to be. If you allow them to get you high.
That's what love is, you know, love, Love is what
we're supposed to operate in, you know, don't give it
to the lessons to your point, Dana.

Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
But at the same time, yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:01:05):
But it's how you maintain that, right, you still your
self worth and your self love doesn't stop because you
get married.

Speaker 2 (01:01:13):
No, No, it doesn't happen to right.

Speaker 5 (01:01:15):
So there's gonna be moments where your husband may not
be all into you years like ten years, fifteen years
later down the road, and it's just like it's not
on you to try to fix him and change him
and make him love you and all that. But I
think your investment in yourself never stops, and it's just
like a constant work.

Speaker 3 (01:01:33):
And the way, yeah, Dana, the way I took your
words is said that she's taking control of her emotions
and she's setting boundaries. She's making him work for it. Now,
she's not immediately saying yes, and that's why he's like, oh,
I am interested, so I'm gonna have to set it
up a little more. So that's how I'm taking it, yes.

Speaker 5 (01:01:54):
Because I think that we as women are guilty of
making trying to make things easy for men sometimes and
thinking that we want to, you know, be easy going
and then we're realizing now like, oh no, they actually
have to work for it, because we are freaking amazing
and we deserve the best, and we're seeing the consequences

(01:02:18):
of what just making everything easy. And that's where you
have a lot of feminine men out here and soft
boy era, because women for a long time, going back
to sex and the city, have been making it so
easy for them, centering them and making it just like
they're the drug and then they're the prize and all
these things, and women are realizing like hold on, no,

(01:02:41):
actually I am you.

Speaker 4 (01:02:43):
Know, and to your point Norms in the first two episodes,
you know, Aliyah, you would also say, like, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:02:50):
Carrie didn't believe it was real for her.

Speaker 4 (01:02:52):
She didn't believe it was possible for her, like it
maybe big kind of sense that like you think I'm
better than you, you think I'm too good for you. But
then when she started to be like you know what, nah,
here's drink money. I don't I'm not playing these puzzle games,
He's like, oh, let me, let me lock in and
take this girl seriously. So yeah, see how you got
to act unavailable or uninterested to get these men to
pour into you and I'm gonna probably emphasize this every

(01:03:13):
episode too. It's that's it's just that human nature thing.
You gotta be a little bit unavailable. You gotta be
a little bit of a mystery to get the guy
to maintain interest in you, unfortunately, Betach. Yeah, yeah, I
just also wanted to say I agree with with Kayla,
like and both of you.

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
I don't think you're wrong.

Speaker 4 (01:03:29):
I just do think there is something to be said
about love and the high that it gives you, and
it doesn't have to be a bad thing, but you
do also, at the same time have to be whole
on your own true all true.

Speaker 3 (01:03:39):
Yeah, Yeah, but you're talking about love, and right now,
I don't think they have they love each other.

Speaker 2 (01:03:44):
It's lust. There's no love in this episode. No, just
in general.

Speaker 3 (01:03:48):
Yeah. And then just to add on to Dana's point
or my point, I feel like, especially for rich men,
you do have to put these boundaries, and really for
so because I feel like they they feel like because
they have money, they can get away with so much, right,
or they can get whoever they want, and they power
into their money.

Speaker 4 (01:04:09):
Yeah, and that's how the episode concluded with Carrie is saying,
damn it would have been mad cool if I didn't
look back. And that's just also so relatable. I love
my girl, I really do. I'm hard on her, but
I love her.

Speaker 2 (01:04:19):
I really do.

Speaker 7 (01:04:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
That's a real last thought process, honestly.

Speaker 3 (01:04:22):
So now let's get into the cringiest moments of the episode.

Speaker 7 (01:04:27):
Bruh.

Speaker 3 (01:04:28):
Yeah, let's start with the commentary from twenty something nice
of why they like to date older women.

Speaker 7 (01:04:37):
We're going in the thirties. I'm just so grateful. It's
like every bullshit nice thing you do is like throwing
to put into the starting COMINDI the mom two are smart.

Speaker 5 (01:04:46):
Course, that was just back to two as smart, and
I think there's a contradiction there because they're at first
they're like, oh, just throw some bullshit, right, and then
they'll accept anything. But then later on in the same segment,
it's just like, oh, they know what they want and
all these dames that was I know, do they know

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what they want or they don't.

Speaker 4 (01:05:08):
It's showing four different opinions for different takes, Like all
the women have have different opinions on whatever their topic is.
So I think all the men just have different takes.
They're not all in agree.

Speaker 2 (01:05:17):
Its about how they feel about it.

Speaker 3 (01:05:19):
The difference is that Skipper respects older women. Cringe moment
number two carry waking up in twenty something Sam's apartment
after sleeping with him. This is cringe because the apartment
is so freaking dirty, and him having the audacity to
attempt to use the last bit of toilet paper as

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a filter for coffee.

Speaker 2 (01:05:40):
That yeah, very very like, grow up, bro, have you
have you a supply on that? I think he isn't
grown he's a little kid twenty seven. But I do
think that I have a thing about about toilets.

Speaker 4 (01:05:53):
You know, if you don't close the lip when you finish,
don't everything in the toilet just flies everywhere. And if
that toilet paper was the last bit of toilet paper,
then that toilet paper was in the bathroom beforehand, and
now you're using it to feel to my mother in
coffee something.

Speaker 5 (01:06:09):
And honestly to your point with the whole lid, I
don't know. It's just me just going and the lid
open overall, like I like, it's just so cringe to me,
Like how do you guys not just close the lid
wherever you go, like when you're showing off a house,
just close that lit down. I don't know, that's just me.

Speaker 4 (01:06:28):
It's always Yeah, listen, if my friend comes over and
using my bathroom and leaves my like, I'm I don't
play that ship.

Speaker 2 (01:06:36):
I do not play that ship.

Speaker 3 (01:06:37):
I be judging people who have their toothbrushes right on
their sink and toilet.

Speaker 2 (01:06:43):
Yeah, your mouth, your mouth. For the longest, I didn't
even keep my toothbush in the bathroom right, like wrapped.

Speaker 4 (01:06:50):
Up exactly twenty something. I love love my apartment. Now
in my bathroom, my sink is outside of the toilet.
It's like the first time has some some freedom.

Speaker 2 (01:06:59):
Let me get in the mirror.

Speaker 3 (01:07:06):
Yes, cover your toilets, don't keep your toothbrush exposed.

Speaker 2 (01:07:09):
Okay, and don't use toilet paper filters.

Speaker 3 (01:07:11):
Oh yeah. Crnch Mowan number three, Sam going into vivid
detail about her sexcapades, emphasizing that he was on his
side too, aka pegging.

Speaker 8 (01:07:24):
We did it with him on top, May on top,
May on my side, him on his side, Oh god yes.

Speaker 3 (01:07:32):
Crench moment number four Sharp breaking down to her boyfriend
about being the up the butt girl, missus up.

Speaker 2 (01:07:38):
I can't, Brian, I can't.

Speaker 5 (01:07:40):
I'm afraid if I don't, then you'll dump me.

Speaker 2 (01:07:42):
And if I do, then I'll be the up the
butt girl. And I don't want to be the up
the boot girl.

Speaker 5 (01:07:45):
Because I mean, men don't marry the up the butt girl.

Speaker 2 (01:07:48):
Whoever heard of missus up the butt?

Speaker 4 (01:07:49):
I think the cringiest part, or the part that got
me the most rattle, was when he said women in
their thirties are just so grateful. It's like it's like
every bullshit nice thing you do is like throwing food
to the starving.

Speaker 2 (01:08:00):
It was Damn. I've never felt more attacked.

Speaker 5 (01:08:06):
I would say the cringiest moment I would vote for
is Carrie, you know, being in that twenty something year
old apartment. To me, it's just like dam with the
ship filters exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:08:20):
Oh boy, I would vote for that same scene Jana
Carrie waking up in Sam's apartment. I don't think that
the last two moments we talked about or talked about
being cringed. I feel like everyone should be free to
ship uh sh, to share, no, never mind scratch on.

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I don't know what I'm saying, but I was just
gonna say everyone should be yes free to enjoy butt play.

Speaker 4 (01:08:54):
Normals loves butt play. I'm going to vote for Charlotte personal.
I just think as a woman giving a man that much, then.

Speaker 2 (01:09:04):
You won't like me. Girls shut the fun out either
doing if you want to or don't. I don't know anyone.
Shut up, shut up, shut I was cringing, shut up.
I love you, cringe.

Speaker 4 (01:09:13):
So because you guys love to be wrong, Carrie wins
with our ship filters and me and Aliah, we are
the losers.

Speaker 2 (01:09:23):
Nana and ORMs, you are the winner for the cringing.

Speaker 5 (01:09:26):
Sex and the social media so v k x rix
being those sex in the City medio amia that So
I'm going to translate that. Watching Sex in the City,
I realized how much I need to have sex at

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my age.

Speaker 2 (01:09:48):
It's kind of like what someone said earlier. I feel
like I need to be doing what I was.

Speaker 4 (01:09:53):
Saying, that more fun, but not more sex, just like
they make out they they don't put so much pressure,
but they do.

Speaker 2 (01:09:59):
I don't know, but I agree with you. Oh how
do you say that?

Speaker 8 (01:10:03):
You know?

Speaker 5 (01:10:05):
Being the sex in the city. All right, So we're
gonna go to the next one at let's see Stadium.
So watching Sex and the City for the first time,
and I really missed the graininess of the video cameras
in the nineties.

Speaker 4 (01:10:20):
It does take me back to the safeness when it's
like a safe space or like that that time where
you were just free from obligations and responsibilities in the
world was still what is it an oyster?

Speaker 2 (01:10:31):
So yeah, I feel that it's very nostalgic.

Speaker 5 (01:10:33):
Yeah, at b it'slan reapplying red lipstick and running across
sixteenth and Locust feeling like I'm in sex in the city.

Speaker 4 (01:10:44):
I do tend to play like I'm in sex in
the city. Sometimes not in New York City, but sometimes
I do like to do that little trot that Carry
always does when she's running, Like I do like to
play Carry.

Speaker 5 (01:10:53):
Bradshawson honestly, real talk. I've been wearing more high heels
and I've been like casually wearing them random places because
i feel like it's really empowering to wear like heels
and I'm like, I used to always want comfort, and
I think that there's gonna be a reassurgence of like
women in their thirties wearing heels, you know how that

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whole TikTok that happened. So I think, yeah, so that
Sex and the City definitely influenced me. Okay, So the
next one at Pike Tua said officia mene megusta Sex
and the City the Swiss the vadios intentos translation, I

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officially like sex in the City. After several attempts.

Speaker 2 (01:11:41):
Several attempts, they gave it multiple tries.

Speaker 4 (01:11:44):
I will say my niece, she's a gen Z and
she did say like she probably pointed out to me
how crnzy these girls are because I used to be like, oh,
they're really amazing and she's like what and I'm like,
you're right. Gen Z has a way of opening up
the eyes. Sama Gas picked two is like a gen
Z because yeah, yeah, I see that.

Speaker 5 (01:12:00):
Yeah, it was hard for me to watch. And you
know I started watching this when we started this, you
gen Z. I'm at the cusp of gen Z and LENI.

Speaker 7 (01:12:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:12:11):
So okay, So the last person says, at y'all underscore
gal underscore cow, I must be like forty and living
in the nineties because I love Sex and the City.

Speaker 2 (01:12:23):
I just speaks to how it relates to women across
all generations. We would love to know what you think.

Speaker 4 (01:12:29):
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Speaker 3 (01:12:50):
How can you We'll see you next time.