Ep. 5- Power of the Pussy

We made it to S1 Ep 5 The Power of Female Sex. The question arises, where is the line between professional girlfriend and just plain professional? We break it down. Join the conversation @SexInTheCityOfAngels 

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is Sex in the City of Angels podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
Welcome back to Sex and the City of Angels.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
I'm Kayla, I'm Aliah Kai, I'm Dana.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
I'm norms La.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
And we are for single women in our thirties who
love sex and the City, breaking it down episode by episode,
and we made it to episode five, The Power of
Female Sex. And yes, this episode everything about it. Yes, yes, yes, yes,
I love it. After the classic intro, the episode starts
with Carrie stating who the most powerful woman in Manhattan is?

(00:54):
And it's not who do you think? It's the hostess
at Ballzac. Every time they say that, I think they're
saying Ballsak Ballzac, which overnight became the only restaurant that
mattered in New York City. I felt like ball Zac
is on purpose. I feel like the writers knew what
they were doing with that. Yeah, I feel like that's
that's a real restaurant. They probably was going out on purpose.

Speaker 4 (01:12):
True.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
Sam and Carry were waiting for forty five minutes and
they couldn't get in, And Samantha's like, do they go
who we are or aren't we? I on my own
PR firm. You write a newspaper column that should not
be happening. One thing Samantha's gonna do is to be confident. Yeah,
she's a woman. In my heart, I hate women waiting.
I hate waiting, and I also feel like, you know,

(01:34):
when I walk into situations like do you know who
I am? I don't even nobody, but I acpect that treatment.
So I feel Sammy.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
Sam goes up to the hostess and tries to talk
her way into the restaurant. But the hostess got mad power.
She got too much of it, so she is not budging.
Sam goes back to Carry, like, give me some money.
Carry's like, yo, even if I had fifty dollars, I'm
not giving it to that lady. That's not happening. Let's
just go somewhere else. They decide to go somewhere else.
They go get some ty Foo where apparently Carrie can
get some free me cop meet free me Crop. I

(02:04):
don't know. I don't need that much time, but apparently
that's what you can get for free.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
They they did a job against New Jersey. How do
youys feel about that they did?

Speaker 2 (02:13):
She was, well, I don't I didn't really take it
as a job because she was like, at this point,
we can only go where we're supposed to go to
New Jersey. That's where we can get a table. And yeah,
because we seat you in New Jersey, you can eat
in New Jersey. We're not uputt you in New Jersey.
I do feel like New York always probably tries to
play New Jersey passively in that way, but we ain't
worried about it. We're in the city of Angels now.
Even though me and my sister Ely are our Jersey girls,

(02:35):
they're just mad because they got to pump their own guys.
So even though we have to now too because we
live in Los Angeles. But whatever, I do feel like
LA is kind of like that too, Like you kind
of have to be somebody or know somebody to be
treated with a certain level of respect. You know, like
I've gone out with people who know maybe the manager
or the DJ, and we get a certain table, we
get a free section, and you know, I don't know

(02:57):
nobody like that. So I do feel a little powerless
out here. But yeah, that really does make a difference. True, True,
Sam has to go back to her office. I guess
she waited much longer than she wanted to, waiting for
forty five minutes and then getting the tie to go
because she just had no time and Carrie, she decides
to shoe shop to unleash her creative some conscious she
has a belief that shoe shopping can make her more creative.

(03:18):
But her card gets declined, but cashier cuts it up
and says, they told me to do that. They want
to talk to you, and tries to hand carry the
phone and.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
Wait, is that a common practice where they cut your card.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
That's never happened to me, but I see it all
the time on movie movie. I think it's a dramatic,
A dramatic dramatization. Yeah, dramatization, Like just so you get
the point, Like, that's how I'm mad the credit card coming.

Speaker 3 (03:38):
Yes, that shup.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
He said they told me to do that, and they
want to talk to you. And Carrie like didn't care
at all, because at that point Malita walked up and
she was like, that's not necessary. I'll pay for it.
I'm Alita. Apparently it is Carrie's friend from out of town,
because she's like.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
How how long?

Speaker 2 (03:55):
How long are you in town? She's like, oh, just
a couple of weeks, which later in the conversation she
thought that she lived there, so I didn't really understand
that aspect. Did your girls pick up on that? Okay, anyway,
I'm Alita. She ends up paying for carrie shoes. Carrie's like, no, no, no,
it's okay, you don't have to do that, and a'm
Aalita's like, nah, it's cool. It's on Carlo my main

(04:17):
his family has this.

Speaker 3 (04:19):
Argentina very very well too.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
He's a tiny little penis, but he knows exactly how
to U said, Oh.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
She gave him like, she gave her the whole rundown
on all his business. I wish I had a circle
of friends that just threw money at me. Well that's
not even her close friend, I guess. But yeah, I'm
lucky because Amalia's like, oh, you're like a sister to me,
and Carrie's like it all honestly, we only met a
couple of times, but all right, cool. Amalia's just she said.
Most people will classify I'm Alita as euro trash, but

(04:48):
Carrie thought she was cute. She liked her.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
I like her Alita too. She seems friendly.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
I feel like I'm Alita is a pimp or like,
you know how Jerry Epstein has those people well had
those people that will go out and wringle people. I
feel like that's what i'm Alida was doing in this episode.
That's the point throwing the Miami shoes, bitch, I don't
even know you. I'll take a book. This is about
I'm Alida bys carry the shoes. She tells her to

(05:14):
call her, and then she starts speaking Italian. Carrie is like,
I don't speak a look of Italian, but I know
all the Italian. I need to know.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
Doce, Doce, Doce.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
As she walks out with her Doce and Gabana's and
then she gets back home to her American bills, bills,
bills that she's just throwing in the trash. Carrie is
so financially irresponsible in this episode, but I love that.
I wonder what impact this has on society because I
love her ability to ignore her bills. I have deep
anxiety over debt and unpaid bills. Like I could never

(05:42):
do what she's doing. I can never have my credit
card cut up and they want to speak to me.
I come and see all my bills like that's stressful,
and I just throw them away. I don't know she tripping.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
Honestly, sometimes I excuse certain activities because of Carrie.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
Right, the impact they have on us got Dana in
hills more often.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
Yeah, I was one death for some hills.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
I may have learned a little bit of my nature
responsibility from Carrie, because you know what, she don't die
and you know why she becomes rich. So yeah, because
she found a rich dude.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
If Carrie can do it, I can do it.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
And worry about no credit sco. I might be rich
as fucked to borrow. But Carrie en vida Melita.

Speaker 4 (06:21):
I am vida Melita. Her life was a blur of
rich men, designer clothes, and glamorous resorts. She didn't actually
work for a living, yet possessed a dazzling sexual power
that she exploited to her full advantage.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
A couple things I noticed in that scene. Carrie did
use A'malita's name in the column, so I just don't
know if that was her real name or what. But
I literally saw her type Amalita, So I just made
me wonder if she's using people's real names or not.
Not a big deal, but I do left her. I
don't know if you played the question, but like, where
is the balance between pussy is power? And prostitution. Where
is professional girlfriend versus just playing old professional.

Speaker 5 (06:56):
That's an interesting take. I definitely respect what's her name,
I'm Alita. I actually respect that because she actually if
she's going to sleep with someone or before she sleeves
with them, she's going to get something out of it,
and she's going to get everything taken care of first.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
As you think about.

Speaker 5 (07:13):
How many last episode with Carrie, she slept with a
twenty something year old didn't get anything of it except
for cringe and low respect. So it's like you, one
person has a lot of self respect and self value
that she puts on herself and whether you look at
me crazy, Kayla.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
I don't understand. Where are you saying Carrie doesn't have?
Who has respect that puts what we're talking about A'mlida
or Carrie I'm Alita?

Speaker 3 (07:40):
How she has well?

Speaker 5 (07:42):
Based on that segment, how she Carrie says she envied
her for how she carried herself and how she can
get away and have no work and all this. And
when you compare Carrie who has to work so much
and then has to go in debt to you know,
get some shoes, and Alida is getting men to cover
that for her.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
We're also acting like women don't enjoy sex, Like maybe
she just wanted to get her rocks off. Why does
it have to be I need to get this out
of it, Like I want to have sex too. People
like sex, that's the man thing. So I was like,
I need to get money in order to get my
rocks off. I just want to get my rocks off.

Speaker 5 (08:13):
Some called it twenty but my thing is like the
same thing with other people. They want to get something
out of it. But maybe sex isn't enjoyable for everybody.
But we assume that you should enjoy it because because
it feels good. Yeah, but not necessarily that's the case
with everyone.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
And I don't know how are we drawing the conclusion
that I'm Alita is so happy. We don't know her.
We know carry on a personal level. We don't know
how lifestyle.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
Yeah, we don't know the details. But at the end
of the day, Carrie is judging I'm Alita for sleeping.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
Around with She's not judging her, she's interviewing her.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
No, but yeah, but I feel like the way she
calls her a prostitute or a professional is judgmental.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
No, Well, she's asking what's the difference. She's she called
Amalida a professional girlfriend, But what's the difference between a
professional girlfriend and just a plain professional? And I do
think the way it plays out, it's leaning into she
is a professional. She does have some sort of like
do you know that new term that came out recently
yacht boy and yacht girl. She's a nineties day yacht girl.

Speaker 4 (09:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
I feel like, at the end of the day, anyone
women can sleep around if they want to. It's sir
Troy's Carrie's doing it for free, Amlita's getting shut from it.
So why you judge her. You're both sleeping around with men, period.

Speaker 3 (09:23):
Yeah. I agree.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
Then girls, we get carried away and our four girls
are doing we love most, talking, drinking, and shooting the shit.
Sam says women had the right to use every means
to their disposal to achieve power. Miranda says, short of
sleeping their way to the top. Sam's like, not if
that's what it takes to compete. Charlotte's like, that's exploitation.

(09:48):
Sam's like of men, which is perfectly legal. Carrie's like,
so you advocate the double standard. Women can use their
sexuality to get ahead whenever possible. But men shouldn't take
advantage of that. Sam's like, no, I'm just saying men
and women are equal opportunity exploiters. I'm curious to know
your thoughts on that, like advocating the double standard, Like

(10:08):
women can use their sexuality to get a hat whenever possible,
but then we bash men for doing what they do
to have sex with women. I agree with Sam one
hundred percent that it is, you know, mutual exchange of power,
equal opportunity exploiters. I think men and women are both
playing their own game. And uh, yeah, like maybe we
shouldn't jude people how they choose to play the game. Yeah,

(10:29):
if you're a woman and you want to play the game,
you can't be mad at the man wanting to take
advantage of that game. I agree. Charlotte's like, well, what
if a guy is giving you a professional advantage because
he finds you charming? Miranda is like charming and Sam's like, ah,
I gotta hear this.

Speaker 4 (10:46):
I can get him to show with the gallery would
be an incredible coupe. But what if he wants to finish,
you know, older brush. If he so much as suggests
what she's suggesting, you give me a call and will
sue the hell out of him.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
They're talking about home Morgan, an exclusive painter that would
really help Charlotte if she gets his paintings in her gallery. Yeah,
I mean, I feel like this is like, you know,
this is a really powerful episode because it talks about
what we talk about, like the power exchange, the sex exchange.
You got to give me something in order to receive
something from me. So Charlotte is wondering what this powerful

(11:21):
painter man really wants from her. She's skeptical about his
true intentions. And I feel like there are perverts in
the industry that are using their money to exploit women, and.

Speaker 3 (11:30):
Even when they don't even have money, they exploit women.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
There was something online the other day where it's like,
I feel like we live in a society where you
got to have The guy was saying that. She's like,
I feel like you got to have money to date
broke women. True. Skipper then comes and picks up Miranda
an hour early, and then she's like you're early. He's like,
I can wait in the hole if you want to.

(11:53):
Skipper is such just a little lap dog to Miranda,
and in the first couple, well throughout his entire life
on sech in the City. Yes, Skipper is such a
good man, and Miranda continues to be ungrateful. I mean,
I know she just wants him for sex, but yeah,
she's exploiting him for his niceness come pick me up
or I guess he was persistent in picking her up.
But again, you never want the ones that want you.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
Not only that, I think she's just being horrible to him.
I mean, fine, you can use someone for sex, but
I don't know, like treat him like a human being
at least.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
Yeah, I agree, she's doing the most. She's just ungrateful
for everything. You can't do that. I'm right still.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
Exactly because when she gets up to open the door,
Carrie says something like, oh, he's just a sweet little puppy,
and then Miranda's like, yeah, that you want a club sometimes.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
And then as they're walking out, I think like he
almost bumped into her and she like looks at her
friends like you see what I gotta deal with or
some like some kind of energy like that, and it's like,
leave at me on a lone girl, Just leave him alone.
There's plenty of people that will sleep with you. That's
probably good sex. That you don't have to put through
the ringer like Skipper. It's just not nice. Have you
ever had a guy though, that you were so annoyed
by and they can't even do anything right, Like even

(13:08):
their breathing is just like, Yes, there was a guy
who but it was to the point where I was
I was about to break up with him. But the
way he moved his hand when he was talking, like
he was making good points or something. I was so mad.
I was so mad. Pull over and let me out
of this. What do you do to you? Though?

Speaker 3 (13:29):
Like, why were you so annoyed?

Speaker 1 (13:30):
He was?

Speaker 2 (13:31):
He was a character man, he was barnied. He was
just like you're such a character. Like he's like dogs,
we don't deserve dogs. No, I'm serious. Dogs are just
we don't deserve them. They are so perfectly shut the
fuck up, like dogs are cool and all. Don't get
me wrong, I love dogs too, but I'm down.

Speaker 3 (13:50):
How long were you dating him?

Speaker 2 (13:51):
Five months?

Speaker 3 (13:52):
That's a long ast time.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
I know. I didn't hate him till the end. I
liked him in the beginning, but when you tart to
hate him.

Speaker 3 (13:57):
I was like, oh god, he turned it off, Like
early on.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
Yeah, he had small Penis too. It was just a
lot going on. I just wasn't that happy with that.
Carrie was looking forward to an early night. She finally
cuddles up with a book, which is definitely my kind
of the night. Okay, I live those nights more than
I live the out knights that Carrie. But her phone
rings and she gets a call from Amalita. Amalita says,

(14:23):
what are you doing?

Speaker 4 (14:24):
Actually, I'm getting ready to go to sleep. Why did
you come and join us aside?

Speaker 3 (14:29):
And there's someone here.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
I'm dying. I was never getting out of bed, okay,
if I'm in bed, covers.

Speaker 3 (14:36):
Up to here, up to the chin, okay, the book.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
I was never. I'm gonna watch my thirty five at
twenty five, for sure, I will watch your I will
watch your phone call and to go to voicemail and
then to text you the next day, like I will
sleep and get back to TikTok and waiting for you
to hang up so I can get back to my phone.
But Carrie went because carry's a fun gal she is,

(15:00):
and she's like, I can't afford it. Money's tight right now,
and I'm Alita's like, we just want you to come
up as your fabulous self. She's like, truth is I
don't even know if I could afford that. But just
because I'm broke doesn't mean my Dolce and Gabana's should
be punished. They should see the streets. Carrie shows up
at Ballzac and the hostess is like, you're not on
the list. Even before Carrie gave her name, the hostess

(15:20):
had mad power. She was a little bit of an asshole.
I'm not gonna lie. I just hate people like exploiting
their power like that. I've experienced that. And ugh, like,
must be so nice, Dorman. She's like, I don't need
a reservation. My friends already inside walks around the hostess.
Those that looked annoyed when she said that too, like, ugh,
you gotta come in. Like Carrie's wear in her do
cha and Gabana She's dressed to the gods. I don't

(15:42):
know why you want to send this beauty away, but
she gets in. I'm Alita's like, look at this twelve
thousand dollars Van Cleef and our poles. I don't even
know how to pronounce that because I can't afford it.
Bracelet that Carlo barter, that bracelet was not it was beautiful.
It was a beautiful twelve thousand dollars bracelet. She then
is like, you have to meet the most interesting man
in the world. Is it Giles Julie, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (16:04):
I thought it was gillis Philly.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
It was a beautiful Italian name. Jelie is Jacques, and gue,
you're all wrong like Gills. She introduces Carrie to j
the world's most fabulous man in an architect from Paris.
They flirt a little and then gils by Ju buys

(16:31):
a bottle of wine for the table. Carrie is so funny,
She's like, what are the best you have? She's cracking
the table up. I love those kind of nights and
I'm on fire, and Carrie was on fire at that table.
I think so unless they had Aulterio motives, because again
I think I'm Alita knows what she's doing. Alita definitely
knows what she's doing.

Speaker 4 (16:49):
I discovered that Gille was recently divorced with a five
year old daughter, Beatrice, who lived with her mother in Paris. Yes,
he was passing through New York on his way to
Brazil supervised construction of a new hotel.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
He says, she's too beautiful to be a writer, and
she says he's too charming to be an architect. He says,
give up your career and come to Paris with me. Immediately,
she's like, aren't you going to Brazil for the next
six months. He's like, oh yeah, joined me that first
saying this, but I probably would have fell for it
because he was beautiful. I'm not even gonna lie. This
reminds me of the season one, episode one first scene,

(17:22):
where it's just like too good to be true, like,
come to Paris, come to Brazil, quit your job, all
the right things, all the things you want to hear,
but you can't get too comfortable in that. He's gaming her.
He is gaming her, and Carrie is like, I'm too
broke to do anything these days, which is like, girl,
why you ain't acting like and somebody just said about

(17:44):
you anyway? Those details dream the date absolutely not unapologetically
just broke. He's like, writing doesn't pay well. She's like,
I have a substance issue. He looks scared, and she's
like expensive she wear Oh girl, just say you like
to buy expensive shoes. She always wants to play those games.
You're not it really does. She can't just say things street.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
I know.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
I guess that's the writer in her, he asked, because
she could see her tomorrow. He wants her to show
him around New York City. Although he's been there twelve times,
he hasn't been there with someone like her. Those lines
really are just getting me though. I'll be like, oh
my god.

Speaker 3 (18:19):
Gosh, so you guys believe those lines.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
Those are good lines. What lines where? He says, show
me around New York City. She's like, I've been there
twelve times. Oh, Harry agrees to meet him tomorrow. As sure,
I saw some red flags.

Speaker 4 (18:35):
Divorced French and almost uncomfortably handsome, but I felt like
I was floating on air.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
Now she sees red flags, but she still goes with it.

Speaker 3 (18:46):
You see what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
Come on, Yeah, it's always best to just run, run
and round, but she's maybe trying to see what she
can't see. As far as gonna go. You know, you've
been there where you're like, you see the flags and
you're just praying that you're wrong, because if you are wrong,
he change her entire life.

Speaker 1 (19:01):
Yeah, no, definitely, I've been there, but at thirty five.

Speaker 2 (19:07):
Yeah, let a man tell me. He wants me to
come first. I Heartence.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
I think she's probably going along with it because she
knows it's only temporary. He's there for a couple of days,
so she's gonna enjoy it, no strings attached. And I'm
I'd be frying with that too, shit if I was dating.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
For sure. The next day, she's looking forward to wear
in her closet and it's always the somewhere to go,
nothing to wear, a closet for the clothes. Nothing's going
to work right now, but she clearly find well. She's
getting dressed and the skipper comes over and he's like,
I'm obsessed with Miranda. I can't help He just can't
help himself. He loves Miranda so much. He's like, she

(19:49):
makes me so happy. Our sex is amazing. It's just
I can't. I don't even want to shower after this.
Cring want to snuff like Miranda all day. And Carrie's
like holding his hand. He says that and like puts
it down, and then the next thing she's washing her hands.
It's given fatal attraction A And I don't know, like,
do you guys want a man to be that obsessed

(20:09):
with you? Is that what we want or is he
the one way too much? He's going way too much?
Because not? Then I was like that I want to Okay,
how do you translate to the guy that you want
to be that obsessed with?

Speaker 3 (20:21):
You know what you do exactly what Miranda does to
a guy that you actually like.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
Why can't we ever make that connection?

Speaker 5 (20:29):
The thing is like, when you really like someone, you
are really available, and you don't do you don't treat
him like you would treat Skipper, but I did, he
would be obsessed.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
I would want someone to be obsessed with me, but
with a backbone, like don't be a dwep, like stand
up for yourself too.

Speaker 2 (20:47):
Yeah, yeah, Skipper should have been don't Miranda?

Speaker 1 (20:50):
And that scene, Carrie's also trash because she's half naked.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
She didn't get change in front of her friends sex
partner but her friend don't care about him?

Speaker 1 (21:02):
But yeah, exactly, And then she's like, how about you
try and all sleeping with her? Bitch? You know Miranda's
using her for using him just for sex. Why are
you eating that poor man? Why aren't you calling your
friend out like or she's annoying?

Speaker 2 (21:18):
If you're really close to Miranda, you know Miranda just
using this man for sex, like exactly, don't tell him
not to have sex with like, just shut up, Carrie,
shut up, shut up. She don't give a fuck about Skipper.
It's her fault that he's in that situation. In the
first place, she knew Miranda did not win from him
from the gate, and she hooked them up. But then
she got the nerve to say, I.

Speaker 4 (21:36):
Began to fear that Miranda's sexuality was overpowering poor Skipper.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
Oh yeah, is that what you're fearing now? Three at four,
five episodes later, Now, now you're fearing that. Okay, all right,
but Skipper is losing himself. He can't even help himself.
It is sad to say. Yeah. Carrie then goes on
the most romantic day EVA with Jeanne. It just was
unbelievably beautiful. Afterwards, they go back to our his hotel
and she's like, I don't sleep with men on the

(22:04):
first night. He's like, I see, I.

Speaker 4 (22:10):
Gave him after all, it was already tomorrow in Paris.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
You know I would have too.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
He was nice to her the entire time.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
I would have to like, sometimes you gotta be prepared,
like either shape I remember, you know, if I want
to like not do it, and I know I can
be weak. I'll like put ball spots in my vagina
or like not shave like or yeah, I'm not like
if I don't want that, I'm going to make it
so I can't. Yeah, talking about my ball spots, not
put ball spots, shaving balls. I mean, understand growing out

(22:43):
your bush, but then don't care about a bush. You
gotta have it ugly down there, ball spots, some spots,
not all of it. Whatever.

Speaker 3 (22:52):
Have you ever done that? And then uhn it anyway?

Speaker 2 (22:55):
Yeah? Yeah, but it has attackted that work. Sometimes. The
next morning he has a flight. He wakes her up
and he's like, you stay. You enjoyed the food, the food,
room service. Yeah, you enjoy the room service. You have fun.
She's like, I can leave.

Speaker 4 (23:11):
I can leave.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
It's not like I can go. He's like, nah, please
please relax here, I'll call you. And then he leaves.

Speaker 4 (23:18):
And after he leaves, as he walked out the door,
it suddenly dawned on me that he didn't have my
phone number and I didn't have his phone number.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
I don't know how they met up the next day,
but I guess that was nineties it's like, we'll meet
here at this time, you know, maybe we'll meet tomorrow
at this location in this time they met up again,
because it was the night before that they met when
she was with Amalita, and then they were like meeting
up tomorrow. But I guess they just was like, oh, well,
exchanging numbers. Yeah, I guess we'll just meet at this
location at this time type inner or yeah, yeah, I guess.

(23:47):
So maybe she knew he was saying called this hotel.
I don't know either way. He dipped out, and then
she realized that they never exchanged phone numbers, and he
gave her a thousand dollars. He handed her an envelope.
What a thou dollars in it? Yeah? Well, well no,
she he walks out. She sees the envelope on the nightstand.
Oh so she looks over. Yeah, she looks over and

(24:07):
there is a note where her name on it. She
probably thought it was a love letter and then opened
it and had a thousand dollars in cash with a
note that said thanks for the beautiful day. That's what Miranda,
and that's what Miranda's reading because she invited Miranda's to
me at the over to take advantage of all that
free room service that she's getting. Carries like, I don't
know what about me gave horror and Miranda's like, I
don't know, maybe a thousand dollars on the nightstand. Miranda's

(24:30):
being a little bit. It's like, I'm hurt, Miranda, Okay,
this is not the time to be joking about. Yeah,
she's being so insensitive. But I feel like the thousand
dollars was a gift. I mean, she was talking how
broke she.

Speaker 1 (24:43):
Was, exactly. That's how it took it too.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
It didn't give prostitute to me.

Speaker 3 (24:47):
They gave access service.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
Yeah, uh very much. No, but really, Eliah, she mentioned
she was broke, so he's like, here, let me help
you out.

Speaker 3 (24:56):
That's a man adding value to a woman's life.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
Judge Man, gentlemen, Yeah, girl.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
I mean I don't think that that was a writer's intentions,
but I do understand somebody helping you out. I guess,
Judge matthis that's called that dry begging when you're like, oh, well,
my car's not working and dry bagging and I can't
afford renting and you're just like waiting for the personal offer, like, oh,
let me take care of that. You know, but I
don't think that was Carry's intentions, and I don't think
Carry likes hand out, So I personally wouldn't like that

(25:27):
either if a guy had sex with me and left
me a thousand dollars and didn't give me his phone number,
because my intention wasn't to get paid off of this.
My intention was kind of to try to build with
you and move to Paris. I'll ever be mad at
waking up to a thousands more than a thousand dollars.

Speaker 1 (25:44):
This is a specific situation. They both knew he was
there for a few days. She knew this from the start.
What I mean, did you really expect for a relationship
to grow.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
If he gave me his phone number? So when he called,
when he invited her out of the country, he was
definitely joking. Yeah, because he never said sch yeah, it
was a funny game.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
I think, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
It's a good thing she didn't feed into all of that.
Then to play yourself, you know, And Carrie has done
more for less. Exactly, he got her, He got her
Martinez at the bar. So I don't know why she's
so mad exactly. I mean, I will be mad minus

(26:28):
one thousand dollars sleeping with a guy in the realizing
after the fact I don't have his number. But that's
also my own fault for doing that before understanding what
the situation was. I think that's my own fault if
I do that well. Samantha says, what are you.

Speaker 3 (26:42):
Getting so uptight about?

Speaker 4 (26:44):
I mean money is power, Sex is power, Therefore getting
money for sex is simply an exchange of power.

Speaker 2 (26:51):
I agree with Samantha one hundred percent.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
Uh huh. Also, Miranda's being so judgmental while she's using
Skipper for sex. Shut the hell up.

Speaker 2 (27:03):
That's true. She is you just give her for sex
and getting an annoyed out of it instead of a thousand.

Speaker 5 (27:07):
Dollars, right, And I think there's different ways of looking
at it from like different perspectives, right, Like, we all
have what we consider our self worth, and you know,
just because we do it differently doesn't mean that we're
doing it wrong or it shouldn't feel that way. And
I think with Miranda, she's getting nothing out of it,

(27:30):
more frustration and annoyance. And her friend she got a
thousand dollars, you know.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
And free room service that you eat. Right now, it's
Hamley telling her room service is one thing, but not
the money. What else supposed to be the money? Like,
I'm taking the money, well, so it for ways, we
ain't doing it give it out. But Carrie says she
doesn't know if she should take it as a compliment
or an insult, but she can't take it anywhere because
she ain't got her number. Miranda's like, you paid in Floriders.

(27:59):
He paid it, there's nothing else to talk about. Brand
is the worst in the scene. She does have a
little bit of concern about Amalita.

Speaker 3 (28:06):
Who is this Amalita Amalfi character?

Speaker 4 (28:08):
Anyway, I'm concerned that you've been drafted and were a
ring of high class hookers.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
And to Alia's point earlier, yeah, there are women that
get other women to get into this game, and there's
nothing wrong with women that play that game. But there's
also nothing wrong with women that don't want to play
that game, that want to kind of do the standard
finding the husband whatever. I'm having sex and dating to
find a husband, not having sex and dating to get
paid off my vagina. It's okay if you choose to
do that, but it's also okay if I choose not

(28:34):
to do that, and I just I don't. I don't
know if A'malita gave carry the choice. Yeah, I feel
like because you met Carrie Carry through Amalita, I feel
like he was kind of expecting Carrie to be that
same caliber of girl, that same kind of girl, like
maybe the thousand dollars just like the minimum, Like that's

(28:56):
just what he was going to do. Regardless, you know,
he probably assumed that she expects. Yeah, Carrie's like, Emilie
is not a hooker. She's more of an international party girl.
Miranda's like, she's a hooker with a passport. Yeah, girl,
y'all ever talk about money. Carrie's like, no, but I
did allude to the fact that I was financially struggling.
Miranda's like, so this is alone. And Sam's like, Carrie's like,

(29:19):
I don't remember filling out paperwork. Sam says, men give,
woman receive. It's biological Oh, it's biological destiny.

Speaker 3 (29:27):
That's true. I agree with that.

Speaker 5 (29:29):
And to the point i'm Alita, I don't think she's soliciting.
She's not like recruiting girls. I think that she hangs
out with the circle of successful wealthy men and if
you see your friend and you she speaks so highly
of Carrie, and she hypes her up and she says, oh,
she's so great. You know, you want your friends to
succeed and you want your friends to get spoiled and

(29:51):
have the same treatment as you if you think that
you're getting everything. She's not gatekeeping and she wants to
share the wealth, and to her, it's nothing.

Speaker 3 (29:58):
That's why she brought her bag. And it's just like,
oh you eat, you know, Kayla.

Speaker 5 (30:02):
You and I have gone to happy hours and the
person next to us is just like, yeah, it's like nothing,
They'll just pay for the tab and of course not.
But I tell you something, Carrie was attracted to this guy.
It's not like he was an ugly guy that she
was like, oh, go have sex with him. No, she
wanted to go have sex with him because she was
really attracted to that guy and he so happened to

(30:24):
have money. But it's not like she, hey, go sleep
with him. She did all of that on her own.
So Amieda is my girl. I don't know now.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
Amlida's and her are not friends. She said that they
just met a few times, so she's over exaggerating the
relationship they have. And then she's also playing up Carrie
as if Look she's the most fabulous, sexiest writer in
New York City. Look what I brought into the circle.
I mean, I just think you gotta be a little
bit more guarded. I don't think her intentions are I mean,
I don't think her intentions are bad because she's not

(30:53):
forcing Carrie for sure, But I think she knows what
she's doing when she brings her around these men and
plays her up like that. Miranda. I didn't really like
when Samantha was like, men give and women receive. It's biological.
She's like, hello, do you really want.

Speaker 4 (31:06):
To be saying that. I mean, that's exactly the kind
of argument men have been using since the dawn of time.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
And I do think that it could be used to
exploit women, like you know that that's all we are
good for to an extent, Like I personally don't think
that my iners, my vagina, my body is the equivalent
to your money. Like money is material, money is of
this world. My body is spiritual. My body is me.
You are having a soul tie and a connection with me,

(31:33):
and I don't think that that has a price. I
don't think that that's like I'm giving you this money.
Now you need to give me your vagina, Like no,
I got you this dinner, Now you need to give
me this. I do think having that mindset can be
a little bit toxic at time and make women kind
of equivalent to a thing.

Speaker 5 (31:51):
I think that that's not how I received it, because
we are receivers. We receive, you know, we have a womb,
we receive, you know, and we create life. And so
that's how I perceived it.

Speaker 3 (32:05):
Like when you a.

Speaker 5 (32:06):
Man is supposed to provide and protect, we are the
receivers of that, not necessarily, Like there's a whole there's
more than just financial components to it. There's security, emotional protection,
like we are receivers of all of that, and there's
you know, I think that Miranda's point of view, she
was negative the whole time, so she has her perspective

(32:26):
on everything. She hates everything, so no matter what you
said it made sense, she wasn't going to agree.

Speaker 2 (32:32):
I wish I was more comfortable receiving. I've just never
I wish like I just don't ask for things. I
wish I was comfortable just stating what I expect or
want from a situation and putting it out there. But
I do think giving and receiving is the law of
the universe more than women receive from men. I think
that relationships are mutually beneficial, like men do give women

(32:53):
certain things, and I think women give men certain things
to and not even just men and women. I think
in relationships there's like a mutual exchange. When you go
out to the restaurant, You're going to give me food,
I'm going to give you money, you know, like, And
we get more into that into the end of the
episode with Carrie and the hostess at the end. But
I think that the giving and the receiving is part
of human nature. And you can't expect to receive anything

(33:15):
if you're not given something, would you choose to give
varies from person to person. That is true. That is
the role of the universe. You don't get anything for nothing.
You always it's always in exchange, and that's that's the
role of nature. But Carrie says she's just gonna write
this whole thing off as a bad date with a
cash bonus. Carrie, I know what she was going to
do with the money. I don't know why she wanted
to do some shoot therapy like she always want to

(33:36):
do Damn Bill, get that credit card. They just got up.
You know.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
I did want to talk about the overall theme of
the episode earlier on when they're having the conversation about
woman's sexuality and that that being their power.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
Like if we go.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
Back in time when women were seen as things that
you own, and you had no rights, You had no money,
no rights in general.

Speaker 2 (34:05):
You barely had your name, You went by your husband exactly.

Speaker 1 (34:08):
Sexuality is the only thing you had and that was
the only thing you can use as power. So I
don't see that as the wrong thing, right, but even
use that headed to an extent, To an extent, I'm
sure you know there's been wars started by women. So yes.
And then secondly with Miranda, it's I just hate how
so righteous she is. It's annoying. It's like she's talking

(34:32):
about women receiving men giving. It's like, that's exactly what
you're doing with Skipper. Why do you feel so uppity
about it? And you're doing the exact same thing.

Speaker 5 (34:42):
And I also do believe that because a lot of
going back to back then, you know a lot of
women and to your point, a Leah, like a lot
of women don't know how to receive and they feel uncomfortable.
And it goes back to how you view yourself. And
there are some people that and it goes to like
self esteem and how you feel and if you deserve everything,

(35:02):
you feel like you why not ask for the most
because you actually genuinely believe that. And oftentimes there are
women that because they're not there yet, they don't have
that point of view as someone else that has it,
you know, like for instance, Miranda and then Samantha, like
one is like, go ahead, ask for a receive.

Speaker 3 (35:24):
And I feel like because.

Speaker 5 (35:27):
A lot of women or some women, they're not comfortable yet,
and because we've been conditioned to give ourselves for free
that when we are in relationships or we're dating, that
when a man asks for sex or he's expected, we
almost give in without even thinking and setting in a
boundary or setting a standard. And now I think women

(35:47):
are realizing, like, no, actually, I'm going to ask for
this before so that you can show me that I'm like,
I am valuable and these are the things that I
need you to do. So that's why when I see Almalita,
she's just like she is playing the game because she
knows what it is and she knows that men are
moved by sex and women are enticed by money, and

(36:12):
you know, it's an exchange of power in a way.
But we shouldn't have to give ourselves for free because
a man is you know, he wants to have our
he wants to have sex with us, like some people
are like, no, I think that you're gonna have to
put in some work and if you have to spend
some money, take me out to dinner, buy me a
gift to show me that because men do follow their investments.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
I totally agree that that's definitely a way of thinking.
And that's the way a lot of women operate, and
that's totally okay. But I don't want to speak down
on the woman who choose not to operate that way.
You know, that's fine. It doesn't me lead to them
not knowing it yet or being insecure. It could just
be their standards. And I choose to date for love,
and if you believe in love, then more power to you,

(36:53):
you know.

Speaker 5 (36:54):
And they're used to say that there is in love
because you are asking for whatever you require and it's
not necessarily that you don't know your self worth. There
are women that you may say, don't make other women
feel bad. But women that don't ask for the most
do try to make women that do ask for the
most feel bad, and it's just like them.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
That's a generalization. I also think like sometimes women don't
want to deal with maybe the confrontation of what the
expectations are. Sometimes it's easier to live in the dream
and the unknown, which is not something that's okay. You
should communicate proactively and set your boundaries proactively. But sometimes
just being an unknown allows you to have some hope
or faith or or just live in the fantasy for

(37:36):
a little while. So I think sometimes that has something
to do with it. Yeah, yeah, I mean, and I'm saying,
you know, two each his own. It's okay to date
for the exchange of money and to you know, know
that men's harder in their pockets, and you know, the
more they give, the more they make care. And it's
also to okay if you choose to, you know, date

(37:56):
a broke man, and that's what you know, that's your prerogative.
I just feel like I don't want to put down
people who date traditionally, you know, I don't.

Speaker 1 (38:04):
Forget anyone was putting them down, though, putting them down.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
I feel like there were certain languages where it's like,
you know, you're insecure, and it's operating of a place
of not knowing what you want yet, And it's just how.

Speaker 5 (38:15):
People I'm basing it on right now the conversation what
Aliyah shared and how it ties back to the episode,
and one of the notes actually is the fact that
Carrie does struggle with self worth and that just ties
back to whether she's being paid for sex or is

(38:36):
it a nice gesture and she can differentiate. So that's
just what it is. It's not because she is this
or that. I think that we all go through our
moments in life and some people, you know, because I
know I've been there where I didn't feel comfortable asking
for certain things, and it's just like now that I have,
I understand the whole totality and I know and I

(38:57):
can relate to why certain women don't feel comfortable. So
it's not an attackering.

Speaker 2 (39:03):
Yeah, because I do want to clarify I don't. I
feel like I do have a healthy level of self esteem.
And also it's more so I just I really and
maybe I am too nice, but I'm like, I like
really respect people like I would never want to use anybody.
I would like to be fully upfront, like I will
do a nice thing for you and not expect anything
in return for that. That's just who I am, and
that that's not even just between me and men. That's

(39:24):
like between me and anybody when I'm in the mood.
But I am like even with my friends, like I'll
let them get certain things off and not expect something
in return, because I just think I'm I'm like a
really nice maybe too nice, but I just feel like
I'm a nice person, very considerate of just other people.

Speaker 1 (39:39):
Yeah, I mean, I can see myself acting like I'm Alita,
But at the same time, I don't judge her for it,
So yeah, I can't.

Speaker 2 (39:46):
I can't teach. Yeah, I don't mean to sound judgmental
about Alita. That's I'm coming up. I feel like you weren't. Oh,
I just thought she was bringing Carrier to her situation.
But she's definitely doing the most Like don't go ahead, girl,
do you get that brace? Wipe that man's card. I'll
see you in Venice, I'll see you in Paris to
hear thing for sure. But I feel like she put
Cary in a position where Carrie like people touching on

(40:08):
her because the way Gary appeared like a pedestal.

Speaker 1 (40:10):
Right, you know what, and I watching this episode, I
didn't connect the dots until now, and then it's definitely
confirmed with the scene.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
Leader on Yeah, we'll get there for sure, but right now, Charlotte.
She arrives at the secluded Connecticut home of the painter
Neville Morgan, who she was talking about in the earlier
in the episode, to secure his latest work. Charlotte says
meeting him is the highlight of her career. He's like,
I can't believe someone as young as you even knows
who I am. He's like, She's like, I studied you

(40:42):
in college. And he apologizes. She's like, you're too modest.
He's like, no, no, I'm genuinely sorry. I don't know
why he was so sorry, but he was. And then
they walk into his shed and she sees his work.
He says that used to do full nudes, but now
all he does is the cunt. Oh my god, it's
the closest I've ever come to pure universal God force.

Speaker 4 (41:05):
I can't oh my.

Speaker 3 (41:08):
They're very powerful.

Speaker 2 (41:10):
Exactly the most powerful force. I love it, the most
powerful force in the universe, which I think is true.
Like like we said, it's creation at birth's life, and
it got Skipper upsessed, it got Ninja's ninjas wanting to
paint it. You now you get one k just like that.
So if you know how to work that power, you

(41:31):
know you won't get a lot from that.

Speaker 5 (41:32):
It's it's how you how you actually work it and
recognize it. It is power, and when you use that
as a tool rather than you know, again, it goes
back to how you carry yourself and what you ask for,
because if you're giving out your power for free, then
I think we just yeah, but yes.

Speaker 6 (41:52):
But.

Speaker 5 (41:54):
You can get a job, you can get a career
however you use it. But I think that it's been
weaponized that women that know how to use it, and
when you know, it's very powerful and you can't hear
whatever you want.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
Charlotte hated the sea word, but she and they're correct. Neville,
his wife walks in and brings lemonade and cookies, and
he's like, all these cunts that you see painted are
women that what do you say? Women that touched his
life somehow. His wife is just like smiling and nodding
her head, so proud of her husband. And then he
looks at Charlotte like you were on a post for me,

(42:26):
and Charlotte's flattered. He's like, I got time, he could
do it this afternoon. His wife is like, I think
you have a beautiful kunt, dear.

Speaker 1 (42:34):
That's a very open relationship right there.

Speaker 2 (42:37):
That wife is secure to allow a man to be
out in the back. Shehd paying him vagina. And I'm
not there implying that he's like cheating on her, because
he's like all these women have, you know, touch my
life somehow specially, and she's just like smiling and nodding.
I don't know. I don't know what they're implying, but
they do like make it specifically known that his wife

(42:58):
is like cool with it. Yeah, I get the impression
that he was cheating. I feel like she was secure
and confident and he's obsessed with you know, the capawa
and it's a real thing. It's beautiful and they all
look different, you know, so he must have paint all
the different ones. So I don't know. Charlotte thought about
how far she would go for the love of her
art gallery. Carrie and Sam then go back to Ballsac
with her with her hooker money and they still can't

(43:20):
get in. Carrie is hungry, she's ready to leave, and
then she sees Amalita, who invites her over. She introduces
her to her friends, and she invites Carrie to Mario's
family house in Venice. Apparently Mario has a really extravagant house.
They're they're going there for their film festival, and she
was like, carry you come, you open your laptop and
you do your fabulous writing that you do. Carrie is like, well,
I've never been to Venice and Mario's like, it's beautiful

(43:43):
and romantic. She's like, I heard sinking. Mario pulls her
in and says, come, I couldn't say.

Speaker 4 (43:48):
I wasn't tempted. I parlayed that thousand dollars into a
trip to Venice into a nice piece of jewelry. A
rich husband followed by a richer divorce.

Speaker 2 (44:00):
Pulls her in. He doesn't rubber inappropriate yet, and she
is tempted, and then he puts his hand on her
ass and she's like, mm, just because Venice is sinking
doesn't mean my morals have to. And that's what makes
me think. To Aliah's point that yeah, she's putting her
some compromising positions because I personally don't like being touched
by strangers like that makes me feel so uncomfortable immediately,

(44:20):
if not so, like why is your hand on my mass?
In fact, I was at an event today and some
listener thought it was okay to kiss me on the
on the cheek, Like what are we doing? I don't know, ya,
not a post COVID. Sometimes kissing is a cultural Yeah,
it was no cultural shit.

Speaker 1 (44:34):
Yeah I know that. That was a cringe moment for me.
Mm hmm. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:39):
I've been in situations where I feel like ben have
like groped me based on the like the conversation I've had.
Like one time I asked the guy to show me
a picture of his dick. Wait what Aliah, right, you
were with me? That not Caleb. We were out in
Hollywood and we met those three guys. Oh yeah, I
was a drunken vibe in so I was I don't
know why I was feeling bull but like we were

(44:59):
just all right, well, let me see what you work away,
show me a picture or whatever. But then I guess
he felt it was okay to then touch me on
the butt. I was like, damn, like, let me him
think that was okay.

Speaker 1 (45:10):
Well, yeah, that surprises me. Eliyah from you for someone.

Speaker 2 (45:16):
Yeah, she gets a little freaking I know, okay, okay,
from when I'm comfortable to yeah, but like when I'm
drunking after Carrie uh says no, I'm just like, all right,
call me. I'm standing at the Carlisle now with Peter.
So we see that. It's a couple of days later
Carlo is going. Now she's with Peter at another extravagant hotel.
Would anyone be down to go if you were caring?

(45:37):
I mean I wouldn't know. Oh, after the as grope,
you can't go right like because then you know he's
expecting something.

Speaker 1 (45:45):
Oh yeah, all right.

Speaker 2 (45:47):
And Carrie did think about how she could parlay you know,
the money into a trip to Venice and to a
rich husband into a richard divorce, Like she saw how
that could all play out. But she's like she compared
it to sinking her morals because I believe Carrie is
dating for love, you know, more or less.

Speaker 4 (46:03):
More or less.

Speaker 5 (46:04):
There's this one meme that I saw. It says, oh,
you are marrying for love because you love money.

Speaker 1 (46:12):
You know, Where's big throughout these episodes, honestly.

Speaker 2 (46:17):
And That's what I love because she's living her life.
Although she is interested in him and he's giving her
some place, she's still not flowing down. She's not taking
herself off the mating market place.

Speaker 3 (46:25):
This is how you know it's supposed to be it is.

Speaker 1 (46:28):
Yeah, No, I'm I just bring that up because in
the last episode, he's like, let's go on a date.

Speaker 2 (46:35):
Oh he ain't call her?

Speaker 3 (46:36):
Yeah, are you taking more time?

Speaker 2 (46:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (46:39):
But I think if she stayed throughout, like, if she
was doing this throughout all the seasons, if she was
like focused on herself, dating multiple she wouldn't have gotten
so invested in him, and then she would have, you know,
had saved.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
Herself a little bit of hearty for sure.

Speaker 4 (46:53):
Yeah, and asked for Jill and a thousand dollars. I
figured there was nothing to be done.

Speaker 1 (47:00):
For better or worse.

Speaker 4 (47:01):
I had just established my rate for a one night stand.

Speaker 2 (47:05):
Okay. I like her her optimistic outlook at the end
of it. So her rate for one night dands of
thousand dollars, A thousand dollars one a lot further in
the nineties today Los Angeles, that won't even cover my rent.

Speaker 5 (47:15):
If you would have a one night stand and there
is a price, what would you list it up?

Speaker 2 (47:21):
I hope y'all don't think I'm cheap, but one hundred
thousand dollars comes to mind. A million dollars might be extreme,
you know, no.

Speaker 5 (47:34):
Like realistically, if you were going out today, right, Let's
say we were going out and some guys like, man,
you're so beautiful, and you're like, oh, no, you're not, really,
but you find them attracted.

Speaker 2 (47:42):
My legs are closed these days. I'm no longer having
casual sex. I no longer want to give my body
away for recreational reasons, for situationships without communication, without knowing
what it's going to be. On the other end, I'm done. Yeah,
I don't. I'm like actually interested, like I've got to
heal from this, but I don't. I feel like I'm

(48:03):
okay if I never have sex again. But I hope
that's not.

Speaker 1 (48:06):
Exact way celibate.

Speaker 2 (48:08):
Well, I feel like I'm having sex intentionally if I'm not,
if it's not my next long term partner or the
person I'm going to be with. I don't feel there
needs to open my legs to you one because my
vagina in my heart is attached. So a lot of
the times, I do love these men afterwards, and it's
a self protection it's a self protective thing because multiple
people can hurt me if I love all of you.

Speaker 1 (48:29):
And I ask because I'm celibate too. But I've been
sell little bit longer than you a couple of years.

Speaker 2 (48:34):
Okay, I lost the competition.

Speaker 1 (48:36):
I don't even want to share that, so you know what,
scratch that. No, but I am sell and I'm kidding.
I'm kidding. Yeah, No, I'm celibate, and I do see
it that way. I'm celibate and I'm not dating. But
this episode kind of wanted kind of, you know, entice
me to start dating again, because I want to go
on to a nice date. But I do feel like
I'm saving my soulf for like a serious relationship and

(48:59):
some interested in like hooking up or just giving it
out like that.

Speaker 2 (49:03):
Yeah, So to Dana's question, because it's been a decent
amount of time, and it's so going to be amazing
for the next person because it's been so because it's
awesome all the time, and because it's been such a
long time.

Speaker 3 (49:15):
And you've been working now, so you got whole period.

Speaker 1 (49:19):
I'm gonna play that.

Speaker 2 (49:20):
I heard enough the first time, But I want to say, yeah,
I'm gonna say five hundred thousand someone you know?

Speaker 5 (49:32):
Is it a rich person I know or just someone
you know, like that's already in your life?

Speaker 2 (49:36):
Like back, what's that been the block? I mean still still,
I've been, I've been. I'm really putting myself. I'm dating
myself right now first and foremost. So if you're gonna
take me away from my relationship with myself, baby, I
need half a men. I really love my time with myself.
But the hostess with all that power, she had a
little bloody butt and she ain't had no tampoo. You
got all that power, which ain't got no tempoo.

Speaker 1 (49:59):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (50:01):
I like her. But anyway, so she needed to tell
he always head poo he Carrie, and Carrie gave her one,
and going forward she gave Sam and Carrie all the
seats they ever needed at ball Sack. And that's what
I was saying at earlier, like even with the host
who had so much power thorm In, but the minute
Carrie had something to offer her, then yeah, you can

(50:23):
now get something back from me. So I think it's
human to human give and received too more than just
like men and women in sex and money. The alchemist said.
The alchemist said that you don't get something for nothing.
It's the law of the universe. You must always give
in order to receive. So yeah, that is true. That
is true. At the end of the episode, they're at
Charlotte's gallery and they're trying to find the picture of

(50:46):
her cunt. So I guess she did let toroty painter
that afternoon, because you know, he was a famous painter,
and I guess it was an accomplishment for her, which
no judgment at all. And they're so proud of their friends.
They're trying to guess is that one yours? Is that one?

Speaker 1 (50:59):
Yours?

Speaker 2 (50:59):
Is that one? If she whispers to them which one
it was, and all of her friends go running to
go look at her cunt, and she's so like shy,
but they're all smiling and proud of their friend. And
that's how the episode ends, with them staring at Charlotte's vagina.
I just love the girl power. They were excited to
see it in this Yeah, it was in the gallery.

(51:22):
So what do you what?

Speaker 5 (51:23):
What do you think the difference is between her, you know,
selling her I wouldn't say selling, but like using her
her cunt or her vagina has power to support her
business versus Carrie and her a witness stand.

Speaker 2 (51:41):
Now, I was wondering, like what makes this not like
porn or like why is she so comfortable doing this
for free? So I also think this is this could
be like a controversial decision that she made. Well, I
think sex is powerful, bro sex creates life, like it's
nothing to sneak. Is that people think like, oh, it's

(52:01):
like I I genuinely think people while out with sex
these days where it's just like I can have orgies
and I could do. But sex is so powerful, sex
is so sacred. Again, it creates life. This is just art.
This is just me being pained. He didn't touch her,
he didn't have sex with her. His wife was really
supportive of it. It's an artist that she looks up to.
She also works in the art world. So I don't
think it was a sexual thing with Charlotte as much

(52:23):
as it was a powerful honoring, honoring of what women
are and what women are in this world, and how
powerful our bodies are, rather than using our bodies for
its power. If that makes sense. Yeah, that does make sense,
and that's what the difference is for me, should she
has Britten paid. I think that in certain in certain

(52:44):
workforces or forms of work like that, that is a
form of payment, Like you got painted by and by
Nevill Goddard put that on your resume or never whatever.

Speaker 3 (52:55):
I didn't know that author.

Speaker 2 (52:57):
That is an author, never Morgan or whatever. So yeah,
I think that that was that was a payment in itself,
that painter wanting you.

Speaker 3 (53:04):
I agree.

Speaker 5 (53:04):
I think that she did it differently, and they were
all supportive, but I feel like they ganged up on
her for doing it differently when it's the same result
you benefit from however you benefit. And I think about
like women in careers, right, if they get promoted, it's
automatically assumed that you, you know, you did something for it,
and maybe you just someone found you attractive and then

(53:26):
you got promoted from there. I mean, you took the opportunity, right,
So I think there's different I think the more of
the story is just like to each their.

Speaker 2 (53:36):
Own, to each their own, no judgment.

Speaker 1 (53:41):
All.

Speaker 2 (53:41):
Right, Now we're going to get into the cringiest moments
of the episode. The first cringing moment is Miranda's treatment
of Skipper. Carrie says He's like a sweet little sal pup.
Miranda says that sometimes you want a.

Speaker 1 (53:56):
Club horrible.

Speaker 2 (54:00):
Respectful to dude. The second cringiest moment is the second
time Carrie sees Amalita at Baalzak and the guy from
Venice grabs Carrie's ass, Like how disrespectful? Yeah, that was
uncomfortable to watch sexual harassment. Well, you don't like somebody
and they touch you inappropriately. It feels like, O, will cops?

Speaker 1 (54:19):
Mm I don't kick your ass and then call the cops.

Speaker 2 (54:23):
The third cringiest moment is Carrie spends so much of
the episode questioning whether she's being valued for who she
is or what she represents to men. Her internal dialogue
mixed with the way she contemplates Jill's gift, makes her
vulnerability around self worth an awkward, relatable moment. The audience
cringes with her as she tries to rationalize whether she's
been paid for sex or whether Jill's gesture was just

(54:44):
that a gesture. The fourth cringiest moment after moment of
the episode is this lax use of the word kunt ill.

Speaker 3 (54:53):
I honestly didn't even know that meant vagina.

Speaker 2 (54:55):
I did google it. Today, like what does kunt actually mean?
And when did it become a bad word? But either way,
I do it. And that was a definition bulger language,
and it does. It's just feel still inappropriate. It was
a discussion like where it was like would you wouldn't
because that's a disrespectful term that people use toward women,
Like it's equivalent to bitch sometimes like I'd rather be
called a cunt than a bitch or a bitch than
a cunt, Like that's a that's the thing. That word

(55:16):
doesn't really disturb me. I feel like a black culture,
I don't know if that word means anything, but I
don't think we say that word too much in the
black culture.

Speaker 5 (55:23):
But to be a cut, it should be a word
of empowerment, right because if you're a pussy, you are
pussy and she was representing pussy and.

Speaker 3 (55:30):
Therefore it's powerful. So why are you feeling offended?

Speaker 5 (55:33):
Yeah, it's like taking back taking the word like Okay,
I'm a pussy, Yeah I have one.

Speaker 3 (55:38):
It's powerful.

Speaker 5 (55:39):
It means like and like you know, it's just like
that's why I don't when it's used as a derogatory word.
It's just like in this episode, it was used to,
you know, embrace the womanhood, and yeah.

Speaker 2 (55:52):
I think I think that's the way to probably keep
women down like your is. Yeah, it's it's probably a
play on words to keep women surprising.

Speaker 1 (56:00):
Oh yeah, I mean usually men are the one calling.

Speaker 2 (56:03):
Other men pussies. I think Jersey Shore, like.

Speaker 1 (56:06):
I've been called a cunt by a guy and I
was like, yeah, I'm a fucking cunt.

Speaker 2 (56:10):
So what I remember in the Jersey Shore where Ronnie
called semyone and the whole the whole car got silence. No,
it's just so funny, always bringing Jersey short to this episode.
Last episode was talking about baby. I like Jersey too,
but I saw saying once that I really loved it.
Like you know how men call other men or people
call people pussies, but like, yeah, I'm a pussy. Those
things can take a pound in you should call it

(56:31):
a dick or some balls, Like if I hit you
in that, then you're really like weak. Everybody white quote
so yeah something and I said really wrong. I watched it,
but I really do love the Yeah, like pussy is
is strong, like when people use it as a I
don't know what the word derogatory statement. It is just
to take power away from women and to and to
minimize how powerful it is. I agree. I'm still going

(56:54):
to vote for Kerry when she got touched by that
guy at ball Sack, because again, when a guy touches
you inappropriately that you don't know or that you're not
into it, just your whole body tenses up. And then
I cringe looking at it because.

Speaker 5 (57:10):
You're on a date, and then they feel like after
a couple of drinks they start like touching you.

Speaker 3 (57:14):
Yeah, and you're like, where did this happen?

Speaker 5 (57:17):
Give me some give me three hundred dollars.

Speaker 1 (57:21):
The whole date.

Speaker 2 (57:23):
There's the guy you touched my leg and like look
me in the face, and I was like, I will
throw the fuck up. I'm here for the meal. I
was hungry. That was my younger year. That was me
like six seven months ago. My cringiest moment is going

(57:43):
to be the cunt. As powerful and as much as
we love it, you don't, yeah, I don't.

Speaker 1 (57:49):
The cringiest moment I choose is that dude touching Carrie's ass.
No immediately, no, yeah, immediately, no yeah.

Speaker 5 (57:58):
Nor Honestly, we don't talk about it enough, but it's
just like cringe and Miranda still a skipper.

Speaker 2 (58:04):
The fact that you talk so much.

Speaker 3 (58:06):
Crap about him, and it's just like and it.

Speaker 1 (58:09):
Gets worse, it gets worse.

Speaker 2 (58:11):
I agree, I agree, I agree that is pretty lead
me and alone, Miranda, jeez, but you know what.

Speaker 5 (58:19):
I'm sorry to cut you off, but like it goes
back to like Taylor Stuff's song, you know, like men
do like pain, right.

Speaker 7 (58:26):
And it's like love if it's to there you go,
maybe we all didn't want yeah, because look he's like,
you know, they like to suffer even though they want
a peaceful woman.

Speaker 3 (58:41):
And she doesn't know you like a challenge.

Speaker 2 (58:44):
That's true. Nobody like something that comes easy. Miranda hate
coming easy at Oh all right, but Carrie's asked me
and touched wins the cringiest moment of the episode.

Speaker 1 (58:55):
Buh. Now let's get into second in the social media
at the kid JB JB JB. Yeah, so the kid
JB not he said the cunt laughing emoji. Sex and

(59:18):
the City was wild.

Speaker 2 (59:21):
Cut That probably wasn't used much on TV and probably
still isn't.

Speaker 1 (59:26):
Definitely pushing round Grease.

Speaker 2 (59:27):
Is ever one episode of jokes. I'm gonna stop.

Speaker 1 (59:31):
At Maria p eightda and Sex and the City persona
marreals I mean as super intelligent, corun super partamento madre
no maria no translation. I feel like Miranda in Sex

(59:54):
and the City is the most real, same character in
the entire series. I mean, she's super smart, a lawyer
with a great apartment and a mother.

Speaker 2 (01:00:04):
Read it, you read it so sexy in Spanish. I'm like,
oh my god, we're so sexy. And then you translated
to English. I'm like, wait, what, Yeah, I know, I disagree.

Speaker 5 (01:00:14):
I would like to comment on that quote, but I
can see where that person sees Miranda as the most
real person because she sees things for what they are,
and she doesn't sugarcoat and she says it how it is,
and it's like it's an unfortunate reality, and so she
sees it how it is and she's not gonna see No,
she's not optimistic, she's not hopeful, she just she's gonna

(01:00:35):
say it bland.

Speaker 3 (01:00:35):
So there is some realness to it. But we do
tend to.

Speaker 5 (01:00:41):
Feel some type of way about negative people or like
just negative mindsets, and we're like, oh, yeah, you know,
you're wrong, But that's why we that's why you relate
a lot to Charlotte because she's optimistic and she has
like hopeful point of view, but Miranda's very straightforward, she
has no hope.

Speaker 1 (01:00:58):
Okay, Dana, you are right. I mean, we can respect
Miranda for being a successful lawyer, being strong, speaking her mind,
not budgeting, but that doesn't mean I have to like her.
So you're right. M Yeah, Maria, I agree with you.

Speaker 2 (01:01:15):
I guess I don't. I like it all except saying
I don't think she's saying okay.

Speaker 1 (01:01:20):
At r JP twenty three, Sex and the City just
proves that people are their own worst enemy most of
the time.

Speaker 5 (01:01:31):
Self deprecation, self just overall like self sabotage, you know,
like you really we we really am. I'm guilty of
it too, Like we are. We get in our heads
and we create these narratives that are not true.

Speaker 2 (01:01:49):
Story of life, moral of the universe. We are our
own worst enemies.

Speaker 5 (01:01:53):
And it's funny because we pray, like we pray for
our enemies outside of us and our external enemies, but
like I have to remember to pray for my internal enemies,
which is myself.

Speaker 2 (01:02:03):
Like I mean, at the end of the day, we are,
we are the problems. Like we are, we are the
cause of our own problems. We are the cause of whatever.
Whatever we're complaining about, it's our fault. Whether we're accepting something,
we're not making changes like you're playing a pivotal.

Speaker 5 (01:02:17):
Role at Sinatra Underscore, Horowitz went to Sex and the
City party last night and gravitated towards what Carrie would
call eurotrash.

Speaker 2 (01:02:27):
Try and get them dojain gabana.

Speaker 3 (01:02:28):
Shome oj doj Okay.

Speaker 5 (01:02:31):
So next one at Sad Underscore, Cowboy watching Sex and
the City and unlocked a new fantasy staying the night
at a fancy hotel with the rich guy. He has
to leave in the morning, but he tells me to
stay and order room service, and I invite my girls
over for brunch.

Speaker 1 (01:02:49):
Yes, who's gonna take one for the team in there?

Speaker 3 (01:02:51):
I will always do that, Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:02:52):
Dana invite us no room service immediately?

Speaker 2 (01:02:57):
Yes, yes, but I wouldn't.

Speaker 5 (01:02:58):
I wouldn't like depending on the guy, I want to
sleep with him, So Kennedy, he wants.

Speaker 1 (01:03:10):
It.

Speaker 2 (01:03:10):
Also, he wants.

Speaker 1 (01:03:14):
It.

Speaker 3 (01:03:14):
Reminds me of the key of.

Speaker 6 (01:03:18):
Yesd Rewatching Sex in the City as an emotional mature
person means you realize Carrie was the problem I just agree.

Speaker 1 (01:03:32):
I agree the problem.

Speaker 5 (01:03:35):
I think everybody should take accountability for their own actions.
And Carrie was a good friend because I would have
dipped out a long time ago if I was Carrie.
But no, she's stuck through the friendship the whole time.

Speaker 2 (01:03:48):
Let those friends behind. I'm like, oh once a month,
I just.

Speaker 3 (01:03:57):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (01:03:57):
So the last name says Carrie Brashaw us this man
for content, and that's why I respect her.

Speaker 2 (01:04:02):
Yes she does. She was verybody for condamn friends man, Alita.

Speaker 3 (01:04:05):
That's true, and maybe you know she got something out
of it.

Speaker 5 (01:04:08):
You know she she got a lot of heartbreak and
all of that and free sex, but she got freak content.

Speaker 2 (01:04:15):
That was so shady. Make sure you let us know
your thoughts on the episode Sex for Power, all that stuff.
Whatever we was disagreeing on and agreeing on, it's laid
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