Ep. 6- Sexual Delusion

We made it to ep 6, so we're halfway through Season 1. This episode is called Secret Sex. Secret lovers are all fun and games until feelings get involved. Take a listen and join the conversation @SexInTheCityOfAngels

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is Sex in the City of Angels podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Welcome back to Sex in the City of angel In
this episode, we are covering episode six, Secret Sex and
this was I think this was one of my favorite
episodes so far. I really enjoyed it. They keep getting
better and better, they really do. After the classic intro,
we start with Carrie doing a sexy photo shoot for

(00:42):
the side of the bus, a promo shoot for her column.
She had some misgivings, but they were quickly nullified when
she found out that she could keep the dress. I
was loving it. I was happy to see Carrie doing
her thing like that was when I was first Oh
my god, Carrie really is an it girl. After the
photo shoot, Sam, Miranda, and Charlotte came over to live

(01:03):
vicariously through Carrie because what did you say about their
social life and their social life of their own? Like, girl,
can't your friends just support you without you being all? Oh,
they don't have anything else to do, so they are
living vicariously through me and her official first date with
mister big Yup. He finally asked her out, and Carrie
she wears the dress from the photo shoot.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
Oh honey, it's a fabulous It's tints on toast, baby,
but you make it work.

Speaker 1 (01:32):
Let's just say it. It's the naked dress. I mean,
you're obviously gonna have sex with him tonight.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
So she took the dress from the photo shoot and
she wore that very sexy, suggestive dress. Was that a
bad idea on Carrie's part?

Speaker 3 (01:45):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:45):
Which y'all think of the dress? I loved it.

Speaker 4 (01:47):
I think she looked really hot.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
She looks so good. I loved it. But the nipples, okay,
conservative Connie over.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
There, I wouldn't wear that because you know, I'm a
little Charlotte. Yeah, shout out to her.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
Her body be body out of Yaudia, Oh my gosh, curious. Yeah,
if I had that body, i'd wear it too. And
the fur jacket was.

Speaker 4 (02:19):
Cute too, was very hot.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
Yeah, she threw that on the cover up a little bit.
Miranda is like, she's not gonna have sex, She's just
gonna look like sex. Carrie's like, that's right, I'm just
the trailer. Sam's like, if it happens, it happens. They cheers,
and Charl's like, but wait a second, I thought you
were serious about this guy. If you're serious about him,
you can't sleep with them on the first date. And

(02:41):
I agree with Charlotte. I agree one percent.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
Yeah, I did too.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
I love that they referenced the rules too. They really
talked about it, right Miranda is like, oh gosh, there
she goes again with the rules.

Speaker 4 (02:56):
Rolls.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
No.

Speaker 4 (02:58):
I mean, I agree with Arlotte to an extent because
I feel like it's not really so much about the rules,
but the quality of the man you're going out with.
You sleep with him on the first night, the second date,
or third date. I don't think it would make a
difference depending on the on the guy, right yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
Yeah, yeah, no, and what he's really after, you know.
I think there's some validity to the rules. Yeah, And
I think there's exceptions too, Like I think there's people
who probably have select with people on the first date
and have gone on to be something. But I just
also believe that you risk losing a lot of your
power when you do that.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
Yeah, for sure. And also to mention, I feel like
in my in my point of view, I think that
when you do sleep with them, you really don't care
if it leads to anything, because you're like, I don't here,
you know, Versus when you do care, you want to
make it work, make them work for it, chase you know,
pursue you a little more and work for it. Just
giving it up so easy.

Speaker 4 (03:53):
Yeah, And to elaborate more, I feel like in my
twenties I would have I wouldn't have cared about sleeping
with someone on the first date or not. But in
my thirties and because I want to date differently, I wouldn't.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
Yeah. Same twenties is where I learned those lessons and
realize that the rules are something to follow. The women
who wrote that book, they wrote it because.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
They couldn't get laid.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
That's so not true. The woman who wrote that book
wrote it because they couldn't get laid. They actually just
wanted marriage in long term relationships. And I think it's
true that you know, again, if you give it up
too early, you don't want something too serious to day
in this point, in everybody else's point, but I don't
think anybody is team Samantha in this opinion. In this view, no,
Samantha was dead wrong and out almost in a category

(04:38):
on her own, because she's one who defies the rules unapologetically.
She tweets her own drum, so I can see her
character and why she said that, But yeah, Dad wrong,
Charlotte says, wait five dates. You guys have a number
of how many days you should wait? I believe ninety
days the probationary period. It's like at work. I don't
think it's a time. It's a feeling when you're comfortable

(05:01):
and you kind of know that person and you're not
going to have too many question marks about what's going
to happen going forward, like we've been rocking for X
amount of time. I know this person. But I think
it's more of a feeling than the timeframe.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
I think it's how much they invest in you with
the dates and all that they show, how much, you know,
care and consideration they put in. Because let's say you
hold out for three months, they didn't show you any
of that. They're just holding out waiting for you to
and it's just like, Okay, you gave it up, and
then guess what they leave.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
I wouldn't tell them I'm making them wait a certain
amount of period of a certain timeframe, because then obviously they're
gonna that's the game. You know. I'm gonna live up
to that to get what I want. But I do
think time is important. I don't know what the time
frame should be, but I think that with ninety days
you really get to know someone more with time, Like
in two weeks you can think you know someone. In

(05:47):
one month you can think you know someone, But now
I think three months someone might is going to show
you who they are.

Speaker 4 (05:54):
I would agree with Kayla about it being more of
a feeling and seeing how like getting a re of
the person right, how are you feeling around him? How
does he make you feel? How is the dating going?
I would go off of that.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
I think all of it is combined to like the time.
If time you may may or not agree to, but yeah,
I agree with the feeling as well, and I agree.
I agree also how much they invest in you? Samantha says,
fine third Day show in Reality Check, a guy just
as easily dump you if you fuck him on the
first dage as he can if you wait.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
Until the tenth When have you ever been on a
tenth day?

Speaker 2 (06:31):
And that's why she doesn't get out of dates. She
gives it up random.

Speaker 4 (06:35):
That was hilarious, but I think Samantha's comments really do
speak on her cynicism. And samanthas yeah, mm hmm, yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
Like what do you think she's hurt or just like
gave up on it all, right.

Speaker 4 (06:48):
I think maybe, yeah, the latter, I mean, because I
don't we don't see her dating, we see her hooking
up with men, right.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
Yeah, And yeah, I did have the mindset in your
twenties because Samantha Leader says like, isn't it better to
find out the sex is a good right off the
bat versus then getting feelings involved in the sucking bed?
And I think that was just such a twenty something
mindset because I think we were talking a little bit
earlier in the series and sexual combat combatibility can be taught,
it can grow over time. So if they can't, you know,
stroke it right. The first time, it's like, oh this

(07:15):
is my body, this is what I need. And then
next thing, you know, you know, you never know a times.

Speaker 4 (07:20):
Yeah, and if you have feelings for the guy, there's
no way you're the sex isn't going to be good
because you see him with whatever.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
I love you disagree, I disagree, still Bade.

Speaker 4 (07:37):
No, Yeah, but you are more willing to give him
more chances and really, you know, help him grow and
like guide him and putting.

Speaker 5 (07:45):
Up for disappointed though, would you cheat? No, You'll stick
it stick it out. No no, no, I mean I
try to work it out. If you can't get it together,
forget it forever.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
I'm out of here.

Speaker 4 (07:57):
Okay, how many times, like after the second time?

Speaker 2 (08:00):
No no, no, no no, no, you know, maybe maybe a month,
you know, if you, if you, if I can't, if
I can. You know, sex is sex is important, and
life is stress important, and like I don't have time
for that stress, and then it's like out dread sleeping
with you.

Speaker 1 (08:13):
That's all the other qualities.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
Yeah, No, sex is important.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
It is important. When you're young, you're not gonna have
the energy and the desire. That's going to be the
last thing you get married.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
I think that there are important things outside of sex,
but I do think sex is important. And honestly, if
you're not good, I'm honestly probably not that attracted to
you over time. If you keep disappointing me in that area,
it's like all that other stuff might not matter as
much because it's like, you know, yeah, I don't know,
I've had too much bad sex. I'm trying to think, like,
who is bad? Who would I never like, I.

Speaker 4 (08:45):
Don't know, we're boring, even boring, you know.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
I think anyone that I was feeling. I was into
the sex. I'm lucky.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
I did agree to Charlotte's point though, because sam says,
better to find out before you get your feelings curtain,
Like it's okay to have hurt feelings, that's part of
the game. Yeah, I agree. You can't be scared to
get your feel into her, even though I am and
I don't play those games. That's why I'm single now.
But yeah, that's how you learn, that's how you build resiliency.
That's how you keep putting yourself out there. You gotta
be okay with that.

Speaker 4 (09:14):
You know. Miranda's common chapter that was, oh you do
so well with them? Was she mean sarcastic or was
she being honest or.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
Sarcastic? Ass Miranda, N girl, does you do so well
with your hurt feelings? But Carrie did say there is
something to be said about restraint, and I have to agree, like,
I'm definitely proud of myself when I when I'm attracted
and I want to and I don't, And I know
they also were like I want you more. So it's like, yeah,
there is definitely something to be said about restraint. But

(09:46):
Samantha called her Victorian for saying that, Like, first of all,
the Victorians were very dirty, disgusting people. But if you're
looking at them in a classy type way, that's not
Victorian mindset, that's just reality. I don't know who the
Victorians are, just that's like the whole school people. Yeah,
that were like dresses and stuff. And she's basically.

Speaker 4 (10:04):
Basically they have antiquated they were sharing antiquated ideas. But
you know, I think I'm interested in that right, getting
courted before giving it up.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
Like the Bridgerton's Is that Victorian? Yeah, because I love
those times. Yeah, I always fel like I belong in
those times.

Speaker 4 (10:22):
I don't know literally, but it's around that. It gives
me the same, the same ideals.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
Yeah, Charlotte's like Victorians were onto something. They valued romance,
and Miranda thinks true romance cannot exist without good sex. Yes, yeah,
I think they both go hand in hand.

Speaker 5 (10:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
Well, yeah, good sex can exist without romance. But yeah,
I think romance can't exist without good sex. I mean,
you could be romance, but if I guess, I can
go on a really nice nasty but now I can
go on a really nice romantic date and really enjoy
that without the sex and really be like, you know,
swept off my feet and be right.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
They don't get emotion until they invest fully completely.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
That's because you learn how to control your emotions. I
am still a human and what am I AI? I
don't know.

Speaker 1 (11:16):
It. You're gonna have good sex with someone you don't
like or respect?

Speaker 2 (11:21):
Is that true? Can you have someone you don't like
or respect?

Speaker 4 (11:25):
Back in my twenties, I feel like those were the
best kind of friends with benefits. Well, not so much
friends because you don't like them, right, but people that
you are interested in having relations with, but you don't
like them enough to fall for them.

Speaker 3 (11:41):
No.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
I will say one of my best experiences with somebody
I didn't romantically liked. I liked him as a person,
but I didn't romantically like him, nor did I really
respect him. He was he was very talented, So it
is very true. Yeah, I guess I think I have
to like them or respect them to a certain extent
in order to want to do that with them.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
Yeah, because I feel like I tie my I associate
who I lay with as I don't know. I feel
like if I do that, then I'm selling myself short.
And I feel disgusted.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
I will just think about that. That was twenty something, Kayla,
that did that? I don't know about thirty something.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
The clarify.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
The doorbell buzzes. It is time for her date with
mister Big. Is she going to sleep with him? She says?

Speaker 3 (12:29):
The truth is I was dying to sleep with him.
But isn't the layed gratification the definition of maturity delayed gratification.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
I think that that is a testament to how mature
you are. Yeah, I agree, restrain discipline, Yeah yeah. She
meets him at his car and he says.

Speaker 3 (12:44):
Interesting dress.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
Me names interesting dress. Big is a simple guys. She's
always looking for the deeper meanings. She gotta take Big
at face value, like we don't want to say interest
in dress, that's it? But nice?

Speaker 4 (13:03):
Is he refusing? Just is he refusing to give her
a compliment?

Speaker 2 (13:08):
Is he being a cool guy? I mean, by the
way he was looking at her, I think she knew
what he meant.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
Or maybe he you know, it's out of her character.
So for him to have met her a certain way
and then for her to have dressed like completely opposite,
it's just like it's an interesting observation.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
Oh da he opens the door to her car, he
checks her out. They get in the car and they're
giving each other the sex eyes. He's like, don't worry,
I'm perfectly capable of restraining myself, and she's like, this
is so am I, And then they start making out
and the next scene.

Speaker 3 (13:45):
I can't be hammed in by rules. I go with
my emotions. I mean, some of the greatest romances of
all time began with sex on the first date.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
She did it, she had sex with them on the
first date. I gotta say, it is hard for me
to practice the straight when someone's looking at me like that. Unfortunately,
like I am also like someone who's physically attracted to
someone first, So it is hard for me to practice
restraint when you know that energy is there and that
vibe is there, and we're out and you know it's
nothing but space and opportunity. So I can't say I

(14:14):
wouldn't have made the same mistake. But that's why thirty
five year old Aliya's legs are closed.

Speaker 4 (14:19):
Sure, I'm like, I agree, Now she's in her head,
y'all see, But that's the.

Speaker 1 (14:26):
Point, that was the whope, that's the whole point. You
lead with your emotions. This is what happens you overthink.
This is why it's important to look at the whole
picture and see go in your that's a raven you
know vision and see the whole picture. If you do,
that's why the rules are set in place and discipline.
It's like, yeah, it's easy for men to say, oh no,

(14:48):
it's this is a connection. We you know, this is
don't stop this. But delayed gratification is important because you're
training them to work for it rather than it comes easy.
She would have saved herself so much heartbreak. Has she
just been disciplined and not let or you know, with
her emotions?

Speaker 2 (15:07):
One hundred percent men think with that other head, so
you don't know what their intentions are driven by. So yeah,
you got like the whole picture. You can't just like
he's showing you what he's thinking and you just gave
it to him, you know.

Speaker 3 (15:20):
So I will not be the first one to speak,
and if he never calls me again, I'll always think
of him fondly as an asshole.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
So she's thinking like, I'm not going to be the
first one to say something. I'm not I'm not I'm
not And this she does, she's like that was really.
I mean, can you believe I mean, on the first date.
I mean, I mean I didn't plan that, you know,
I mean, I mean, what do you think, like, growl,
you have shut up? She lost her power, put it together,
get it together. You made the decision to make a
grown woman decision a grown woman about it. All he

(15:52):
says is like, well, I think it was pretty fucking great.
And then he's like, she's like some such wand such one.
All he wants to do is get some food afterwards, which,
all right, let's go on our date. I guess that
was the original plan anyway, right, Yeah, I guess going
somewhere after is better than nothing. It's a good sign.
He didn't kick you out. He didn't, you know, shut off.

(16:13):
That closed that door to doing something more than just
sleeping together. So I think it's better than nothing.

Speaker 1 (16:19):
I think it's important to identify what you want as
a woman and to not be swayed or you know,
you have to set your boundaries and be firm on
it right going in. I think she just was so
infatuated she didn't realize how much like strong feeling she

(16:41):
had for him, and that's why she led with her
emotions and she, you know, did what she did and
now she's overthinking, which a lot of women doing. Once
upon a time in our twenties, we were that girl,
and now we can advise the young girls like.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
Well, yeah, I definitely agree that that is but I think, honestly,
at any age sometimes and this is me being vulnerable.
There was one time I met a guy in Jamaica
and we hooked. We you know, hooked up the first
day we met for the most part. Now I was love,
but we did have the first time we met. For
the for the most part, I mean, we spent the

(17:16):
whole day together or two days in Jamaica, and then
you know, by that night whatever. Then three weeks later
he flew out to see me in La and we
you know, I just felt like we were talking every
day on the phone, like for hours and hours and hours,
like eight hours a day. We would be on the
phone all day every day. We really did connect very
much quickly and immediately. Then he came out to see me,

(17:38):
and you know, I just had to work back up
to being coomfortable to hooking up with him, because you know,
it was like the first time was just the fluke.
We were in Jamaica. I didn't think i'd ever see
you again. It was supposed to be my first one
night stand. Now you're here in La, which I'm grateful.
But anyway, after we hooked up, I started overthinking everything,
like why isn't he on all over me anymore? Why
is he going to the room without saying you know?

(17:58):
I just started overthinking everything, and He's like, bro, I
flew all the way out here to see you, Like
I'm doing everything to show you that I want you
when I'm into you, but the sex just made me
next level nutty. Yeah, I think, like I said, you know,
I'm gonna keep saying it. Once you give it up,
you lose your power, And I think you can't help
but to overthink and get lost in your head, especially
without having those conversations first. It's a possibility to lose

(18:21):
your power, so you might overthink it because it is
the possibility after you give it up, to lose your power.
I don't think it's a definite that you do. But
even if you don't lose your power in the dynamic,
just like your control over how you're navigating the situation,
then you're gonna want something more from him. You're gonna
want him to act a certain way, You're gonna want
him to be a certain way. I think that you
can't help but to go down that thought process once
you give it up personally, I don't know, maybe not.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
I agree you have to for some reason. I don't
know what it is, but I think that when you
work your way up to, you know, getting your power back,
it's just like the fact that you're now obsessed with
trying to figure out what he's up to you white
is he's supposed like he's supposed to be obsessed about
you and like worried about what you're doing. And that's

(19:06):
when a woman's like, you know, onto the next like
when you don't have that that attitude, but when we're
so invested in all that, and it's just like not equal.

Speaker 4 (19:16):
You're just willing to overlook certain things.

Speaker 3 (19:18):
Right.

Speaker 4 (19:18):
But going back to just that one scene, I see
two very different behaviors. You know, we see Carrie on
Cloud nine, super happy, almost in love, and then we
have Big He's like, let's go eat it. Just I
feel like that really is very telling of how this

(19:41):
is moving.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
But I also think men are wired differently the women.
I agree, sex doesn't affect them the same way sex
affects a woman. And to the point to Dana's point earlier,
as far as you know, like he's supposed to be
obsessed with you, I feel like for my relationship with
that person from Jamaica, not from Jamaica, but we and Jamaica,
he was his actions were very much like I am

(20:04):
so into you, and it was just me getting in
my own head. Like it was nothing that he did
that was different than what he was doing. It was
just like, I'm just I'm in my own head because
is that all you flew out to La for six
we're playing for? Is that we just been in all
this money on me for just for vagina? And it's like, bro,
what you're talking about?

Speaker 4 (20:21):
You? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (20:23):
Super aliash the heckup? She was there.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
When I say, like when when you're so like focused
as a woman, when you're so focused on yourself and
your goals, They're like, why is she not emotional over me?
Like why is she not? Like They're so like men
are so trained to deal with those kind of women
that get in their head overthink for such a long time,

(20:47):
and now I think there's a movement of women are
that are prioritizing themselves and realizing like hold up, like no,
you're not, like what what did Kayla say last last
week that her vagina is like five hundred thousand dollars?
And then you're like exactly, So having that mentality and
walking and having that, you know, like you have goad

(21:08):
on you, so move like that. And so when you're
dealing with these men and you're like not swayed by
the romance or the cute stuff and you're not being
love bombed, like you don't care about that anymore. You're like, nope,
I need to see actions now. They're like, oh, she's
making me work for it. I can't just get a
first night hook up. I'm not cute enough for her
to just sleep with me. Like, no, those things don't

(21:31):
matter anymore. It's just like it's about me and what
you can do. Like if if you're treating yourself so
valuable and a guy comes, you better match that or
even like surpass that otherwise.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
Yeah, I agree, I think like men just they like
the hunt, they like the challenge and women, some women
are easier to obtain than others. So when they do
meet a woman who's not easy and they have to
hunt her more. It does make them more intrigued and
it makes them become more interested. And you holding out
is show that showing that you value and you know

(22:06):
you're the prize and that you're not going to just
give it that easy without you know, more than just
the love bombing or the basics or just because you
ask me out on one day, like that's the easy stuff.
You know, you can get anybody.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
Yeah, and they will try you, for sure, They'll they'll
make it seem like, oh, that's not what they're in for.
They right, you know, this is an emotional connection. They
really like you and all these things, but it's just like, okay, cool,
show me, and when they get it, it's something like
it's something within them. It's just like you have to train,
you know. At the end of it, the reward is

(22:38):
going to be like they're going to appreciate it more
when you make them work for it. Same thing with
everything you do in life. When you get something easy,
you really don't value it. So it's just like okay,
next true.

Speaker 2 (22:50):
True, they get some greasy Chinese after they and she's
in her head about if he knows that she likes
Chinese or maybe he just didn't want her to spend
the night, but before she could indulge her paranoia, Harry
sees her friend Mike Singer, someone she's known for ten
years and didn't have sex with, because she they want
to know each other another ten years, which I think

(23:13):
is just saying like, once you have sex with somebody,
they just exist stage leve. Sometimes I agree with that
statement one hundred percent. I have a guy in my
life that I met in my early twenties and we've
always had some level of an attraction, but nothing ever happened.
And then when we were in our thirties and something
did happen, we kind of acknowledged like, if something would
have happened in our twenties, we would not be talking
at all today. And he agreed with that, and you know,

(23:35):
I was matured, you know I didn't want unfortunately. I
just didn't want more from him than the physical.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
So why did you say unfortunately, what's wrong with him?

Speaker 2 (23:43):
Listen? No? No, because I think because he wanted that
with me, he didn't stay to outright. But I think
we could have been something, and he was an attractive guy,
and he would be the type of guy I like
because he has that bad boy edge and he has
that swag and all that. You know, he's from Jersey whatever,
but just wasn't that interested so on that level. But
my point is we were able to maintain a friendship

(24:05):
because we didn't do it initially. You know, Harry goes
over and she says hello to Mike's singer and he's
looking that big and she's like, no, no, no, no, look,
I'll tell you about it later. Mike's like, not too naked,
just naked enough.

Speaker 3 (24:20):
Hi, I'm caring, Brad sh I'm an old friend of Mike.
I'm gone.

Speaker 2 (24:28):
Mike's on a date with a girl, Libby Beyonick, and
he does not want Carry to introduce herself to Libby.
First of all, if I want a date with a guy,
he does that completely desprectful, getting up and walking out.
But outside of that, the compliments on you look great
in this her naked dress with her perfect nipples. Get
ay here, are you kidding me?

Speaker 5 (24:46):
Sir?

Speaker 2 (24:46):
Are you kidding me?

Speaker 4 (24:47):
She's so rude? Does she act them or does she
pretend Carry is rude?

Speaker 3 (24:53):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (24:53):
Because why Okay, he's clearly on a date and she's
asking not too naked. That's a that's not a yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
That's I forgot. She said that she's always.

Speaker 4 (25:04):
Yeah, but it's like she's very inappropriate with these men.
Sometimes I agree.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
I think that if I was Libby, that was Libby's part,
like where she should have realized the work that she
she deserves. And also check carry like excuse me, bitch
to what bitch? What's the outside that secure? And and
and even though Carrie was inappropriate, he did she did
end up introducing herself because Mike was so damn rude,

(25:30):
so real. Yeah, yeah, she wondered why Mike didn't introduce
her to his date. But in the next scene, Miranda's
in the boxing class because she does have a life,
okay outside of what Carrie's doing, and she accidentally kiss
kicks kiss kicks kicks some guy in the face, and
then they they're walking home. He's like, what about my
head pisched? You off?

Speaker 1 (25:51):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (25:51):
She's like there's she wishes there was something he could do.
He's like, how about you buy me dinner and a
cat scan?

Speaker 1 (25:56):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (25:57):
They are so funny with their banter. Aren't they that
easy to get date? She got a date Ted Baker
thirty two years old. These people are younger than us,
except for Dana, but they are younger than us.

Speaker 3 (26:08):
It's like.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
Sports medicine.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
The nineties were so different, but he's a sports medicine doctor.

Speaker 3 (26:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
He has an apartment overlooking the Natural History Museum. Three
prior serious relationships, none of them resulting in marriage.

Speaker 4 (26:23):
He's a catch at she's only how old?

Speaker 2 (26:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (26:28):
Come on, why would you expect any guy in their
thirties to get married?

Speaker 2 (26:33):
Because back in the day, that's when you were married.
You're married by twenty five. Yeah, our eggs are falling out.

Speaker 1 (26:40):
But then they play until like they're in their forties.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
Look at especially today, they had no baby, was married
before though, Yeah, he was a divorce a h Randa
kisses his head. He's like, can I call you sometime?
Randa's like, sure, he left.

Speaker 1 (26:56):
Your message on my machine when I got home.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
She wants to go out this week, which is so
nice that he asked her out immediately followed up. Carry's
like that's fantastic. Miranda's like, no, it's too quick. Maybe
I scrambled his brains when I kicked him. Is that
a reassuring her friend? That na, it's because you're a
fucking dope girl. You deserve it. Carrie makes it about
her and Big, which we can expect for the next

(27:19):
six seasons. Everything has to go back to Carrie, like, girl,
can I have a moment about me?

Speaker 5 (27:23):
No?

Speaker 2 (27:24):
Big Carry's like what's too quick?

Speaker 4 (27:27):
Is now too quick?

Speaker 3 (27:28):
Is sleeping with him on the first day?

Speaker 4 (27:30):
That's too quick?

Speaker 2 (27:31):
You both got excited and you went for it. Her
friends always just support her and make it about her too,
Like it's okay, Carrie. I'll just think I'm I'm you know,
scrambling his brains and I don't deserve this. But you girl,
You're okay. You guys were just both excited and you
went for it. Yeah, I agree. She should have poured
into Miranda, reassured her to go on the date. And
why why was Miranda so insecure thinking that it wasn't

(27:54):
serious and his brain was to be scrambled? Like what's
that about?

Speaker 4 (27:57):
Insecuring off and pessimistic?

Speaker 1 (27:59):
Yeah, you said you asked why why Miranda was acting
like that? She shocked you?

Speaker 4 (28:06):
No? Yeah, no, no, no, I mean we expected it,
we expected right, but oh my god, Miranda.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
Right, I'm the delusional person. I am so delusional, Like
I will flip any script. But I don't think it's delusion.
I think it's creating the perception and you know, having
the vision that you want to be told and then represent.
And so when Kayla, I know I've hyped Kayla before
and she like had some you know, point of views.

Speaker 3 (28:32):
And.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
You just know it isn't exactly so I see it
a certain way. So I would totally spin that, you know,
narrative and say, Nope, he's all into you. He's like
literally obsessed, but he does know how to express it
and he's.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
Just like no, but he genuinely is into her, like
like that's what men do when they're into you. We're
talking about we're talking about.

Speaker 4 (28:53):
Right, Like it was a really cute what do they
call it?

Speaker 2 (28:56):
Meet cute?

Speaker 4 (28:56):
Is that what they call it?

Speaker 2 (28:57):
Like Spanish?

Speaker 3 (28:58):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (28:59):
I don't know how you say the Spanish girl, but
it's basically these the stories of how you guys met. Yeah,
it was a perfect meeting meet cute. And I mean,
I'm gonna looking up cute meat.

Speaker 3 (29:09):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
I never heard this, No, never someone it's.

Speaker 4 (29:16):
Made cute meet cute in a film or television or
a TV show and amusing her charming first encounter between
two characters that lead to the development of a romantic
relationship between them. Oh, this is this is a meet cute.
She's meeting a man in real life in a cute way,
and she still wants to like trash all over it.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
Like you're not a lawyer, girl, and you will deserve
that in less than a doctor. I don't graduate Harves
this top of your class, but put some respects on.
And we're talking to her like Carrie. You're talking to
her like Carrie should have been talking about But Carrie
is like, thanks, let empty seeing and I blamed the dress.

Speaker 5 (29:55):
The dress.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
The dress had a mind of its own. Then she
changed the subject about how she ran and a Mike's
singer and how Mike was being like really weird about Libby.
Later that afternoon, she actually meets up with Mike. She's like,
how long have you been seeing her? He's like a while.
That was so funny.

Speaker 1 (30:11):
Why because a man would really do that to you,
like hang out with you and then not claim you
and say, oh no we're not together, but do.

Speaker 4 (30:20):
You do everything that he's done a relationship.

Speaker 2 (30:23):
Meanwhile, Libby's like, we're right, we've been in two months,
like she knows that date.

Speaker 4 (30:27):
And back to my point about Carrie being very what's
the word we used, inappropriate? Inappropriate? She's curled up in
bed with him.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
She was real close to him, honestly, and then they
gonna like to pick out sheets together or something like
why would you? How about you go with Libby and
won't meet for dinner after or something like that. You
know you don't hang out with Libby boundary. Well, he
doesn't want to hang out with Libby. He's like, she's
not somebody you date openly. Carrie's like, why is she
married a cousin? What's up? Mike's like, Nah, she's actually smart, sweet,

(30:58):
great sex. She's just not who he sees himself with
in the long run.

Speaker 1 (31:03):
Ain't that's some ish placeholder right until the right one comes?
His dreamgirl? Like she probably paid half the bill and then.

Speaker 2 (31:13):
He doesn't even want.

Speaker 4 (31:16):
His reasoning is that she's on pretty enough. Yeah, he's trash,
ye trash, and.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
It sucks you know how men. I feel like it's
kind of like that Modelizer episode, like men want a
certain girl on their arms so they look good to
other men. And I guess Libby as good as she
was as far as him feeling comfortable with her, that
wasn't enough based on her looks, which you know, if
that's Mike's prerogative, that's Mike's prerogative. And I think, you know,
Libby needs to know her understand her worth, because I
think he's showing her that true very clearly.

Speaker 4 (31:44):
And you know, I was going to make a joke
that I was going to group Mike Singer with Nick's
Nick Waxler.

Speaker 2 (31:50):
You hate Nick Waxler in the Modelizer episodes.

Speaker 4 (31:52):
Yes, did he get a hold of him already, people
look him up.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
But in Mike's defense, he did just get dumped by
a cellist whatever, and he was just trying to forget
her as quickly as possible. He was just spending his
time trying to get her off his mind, get out
of the house, run some errands. He ran in the
Libby they had sex immediately, I mean obviously not the
shop that he was shopping at, but they hooked, they talked,

(32:23):
and then they had sex. So she had sex with
him early too, and that could be a reason that
he's acting when he's acting, and that could also be
a reason that she's not noticing because she's in the
or she's.

Speaker 1 (32:35):
More.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
But it's just like Charlotte said, that's what the relationship
is going to be more often than not when you
do that right away, just sex. But He's like, you know,
she's the most comfortable I have ever been. She's the
first person I've been with where I just feel like
I could be myself, my real self. And Carrie's like, so,
what's the problem.

Speaker 4 (32:52):
She's not beautiful and you don't have a lot in common.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
I mean, you know most of her friends are in theory.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
Wouldn't ask.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
I think that's just a reality of what it is.
And it's just like it's equivalent to you not having money,
And they get offended when women are like, you're broke.
It's okay for a man to say and be firm
on that, like, oh, she's not pretty, but I'll waste
her time and that's okay. But when a woman's like, oh, no,
I know my value and I need you to be
a provider, that's so controversial. Every How dare you want

(33:23):
someone that you know can uphold your your values? And
it's just like why if, like, what's the problem. It's
equivalent beauty and money is equivalent to power and all
of that stuff. But it's just like men know how
to flip it and make it emotional and make it
seem like, oh, you're in the wrong.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
But no.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
And that's why I think when women remove their emotions
and go straight for you know, for what it is
and see the relationship as a business, rather than lead
with their emotions and be led and then get disappointed
like that when in reality, you know, men go for
looks and you can be accomplished. And I thought like,
oh I wanted to, you know, back in my twenties,

(34:04):
I was like, let me be you know, be the
whole thing, be the whole package, because of course and
educated and all these things, and have these bachelors and
these degrees matter in a relationship, right, But then later
on I realized, like, that's not what the men that
provide really care for.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
Well, he's trash though, he's a trash person, So why
do we want to be like, you know, him, who's
dating for who's wasting people's times? Like, I don't think
all men are like him. I think he's representing a
shallow person.

Speaker 4 (34:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (34:33):
I think that most men are visuals, visual you know people,
and it's just like for us to say, oh no,
there are exceptions. Of course. I see a lot of
you know, handsome, successful, successful men with you know, average
looking women, but they're probably great in every and average

(34:53):
doesn't mean necessarily.

Speaker 2 (34:55):
No, you're just funny. I love I love you, go ahead,
can keep it going, girl.

Speaker 1 (34:59):
But I'm not saying like it's you know versus and
it's just like, so there are exceptions, and you know,
not every man goes for the most beautiful woman, because
I know I've heard some theories out there that men
don't go with the most beautiful you have to get
like a seven all these things. It's just like, damn
all these you know, stupid don't trans or whatever they

(35:21):
go for. But if we're gonna sit here on line
and say, oh that's that's just that's harsh. But men
are visual individuals, and it's unfortunate that we can like
fall in love with any anyone that shows us like
their care and and work with them and let it
grow and all these things, but it's not the same

(35:43):
with them.

Speaker 4 (35:45):
I think the what we were at the bottom of
it is the quality of men. And so what's his name, Mike.
He's a trash ass guy. And I feel like for
a man, who of quality, no matter if he's rich whatever, Like,
they're gonna go for the person that they are attracted to,

(36:08):
or they vibe with white right, And whenever you vibe
with someone like even though even if they're not the
prettiest person in the world, you will see them as
the prettiest person in the world. But in this situation,
I feel like it's kind of like, kind of similar
to the situation because Mike is very attracted to her,

(36:28):
like with her vibe and everything else, but he's just
shallow and he's not willing to publicly date her just
because of her looks. But at the end of it,
at the end of the day, this continued for so
long because Libby didn't have any self respect and didn't
stop it when she should have. Right, But the quality

(36:49):
of men is always it's it's the root of the
like the problem.

Speaker 2 (36:53):
Yeah, the type of person they are, yeah, the day.

Speaker 1 (36:55):
And I think it's not the thing that holds the
relationship being the prettiest, for being the most attractive. I
think it's the initial you know, a charge of him.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
Yeah, exactly, because Big said, at the end of the day,
you just want somebody that can make you laugh, that
last episode of episodes, so whatever. So carry asks guy like,
what are you afraid of? Is it what people are
going to think? And he's like, at the end of
the day, I just want to keep her secret. She's
not the right woman in the larger sense, and Carrie
goes home, writes in pondas I couldn't decide whether if
he was being shallow or just honest. The question nagged

(37:27):
at her for days though. How many of us are
having great sex with people we are ashamed to introduce
to our friends. Well, I'm soul of it, and I've
been that way for a long time. One week the
girl stops probably gonna be.

Speaker 4 (37:44):
Like, yeah, no, but yeah, yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
I don't know that I think that he is being
he is shallow, but I do think he's also being
honest to Mike is a jerk. I don't want to
fault him too much for just not being attracted to
the woman, and because he's not, I don't think he's
lying to her. And you're right, like, she libbly should
have just set the boundary. But yeah, but and also

(38:09):
like I feel like there's people that I've been intimate
with that I probably shouldn't introduced to my friends because
they're judgmental ass people. But I've never been ashamed of
anyone that I've chosen to entertain that I was like
really hiding. I'm pretty I'm a pretty open book.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
So you would post them on your social media?

Speaker 2 (38:25):
No, but that's because I keep my life private. But
people who know me and I could post on social media.
It's just social media opens up the door to so
much drama, haters and all that. That's just just me
being protective of my situation. But like I've talked to,
like shown people that I'm dealing with to my closest friends,
and I feel like they could be judgmental based on
their standards. Like I've had those experiences where sometimes they

(38:48):
make me feel well and it's not even that deep.
But yeah, my point is I was never ashamed to
show people that I'm dealing with to my friends. Neither
was Samantha, because they were trying to think Samantha's liked,
I tell you about this guy, not what about this guy?
Cares last last one was like we found out he
was in high school. She's like, well, the point is,
I ain't ashamed of nobody I had sex.

Speaker 4 (39:08):
I feel like your friends shouldn't known every single guy
you've slept with. So there have been men that I
haven't shared with people, never in social media. Never, But
like you know something, some things are secret.

Speaker 1 (39:22):
Yeah, yeah, I agree.

Speaker 2 (39:26):
I mean my friends, Noel, you know, my best friend
knows everything every time I had a new partner. Yeah,
to go to a new partner last.

Speaker 4 (39:33):
Night, But not like either, not your whole circle of
friends would know who.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
There's some people in my circle, and there's some people
that don't tell every person, yeah, that I've been with.
And I think at this age like that that was
like I when I was a little bit younger. I
don't keep her so much informed anymore because, you know, whatever,
got more bigger things to talk about. Like it's not
even about that anymore. It's like, what investments did you make?

Speaker 4 (39:57):
How did you learn today?

Speaker 2 (40:03):
I'm kidding. They finally look at Carrie's poster.

Speaker 3 (40:08):
Oh you look naked there. It was the dress that
led me down the garden path, was.

Speaker 2 (40:14):
Mister big All right? Carrie, listen, sis, my bestie, the
love girl. I got it for you. But that dress
didn't do shit. Girl.

Speaker 4 (40:23):
You you so it's not that dress. Girl never taking accountability.

Speaker 2 (40:31):
She is not taking accountability. She is not girl. That
was you, Okay? She asked that she should be embarrassed
and Sam's like, no, you look fabulous. Besides, nothing is
bad publicity. Carrie's like, you say that because you're a publicist.
But I don't know why Carrie would be embarrassed, Like
you knew what the dress looked like during the photo shoot,
you wore it out later that night, and because you
had sex. Now you're embarrassed by a huge deal that

(40:53):
you're getting this promo shoot for your column on the
side of the bus, Like, celebrate yourself, girl, just because
you come on, come on, girl, pick your head up.

Speaker 4 (41:01):
I'm telling you should be acting dumb. And in Spanish
you would say that it is what the ass is.

Speaker 1 (41:06):
Yeah, yeah, And that just ties back to seeking validation
outside of yourself. And I think that's what it was
really hard watching these episodes, because these are things you
deal with in your twenties, not in your thirties, and
your thirties you have more experience, you lived, you understand

(41:27):
that it's about you and what you want, not setting expectations,
letting other people set expectations, and creating narratives for you
and then accepting it. And that's what it's just like
on that dress, you have that confidence and just like, yep,
I wore it. And you know, if he doesn't talk
to me, cool, like, don't base it on oh you know,
these compliments hoping that he you know, if he doesn't,

(41:50):
who cares.

Speaker 5 (41:51):
You know.

Speaker 1 (41:52):
There's times where I'm like, I know, I look at it.
If you didn't tell me, I still know. I don't
need you to give me validation, Like, yeah, she just.

Speaker 2 (42:00):
Creates all kinds of drama.

Speaker 4 (42:01):
Let it be Let it be noted. I don't love
Carrie Southfits all the time, but this one was fire.

Speaker 2 (42:08):
It was fire, and I just think that Sammy Joe
is such an amazing friend. She gives Carrie exactly what
Carrie should have gave Miranda. Earlier in the episode, carries
in her head about should she be embarrassed. She's like, Noah,
and she's like, we have to go somewhere fabulous, and
toastays the bus drives by. We gotta celebrate you girl,
you did that, and she's like, and you know what,

(42:29):
you should invite mister big. Then Carrie reveals, no, no, no,
I don't think so.

Speaker 3 (42:34):
I haven't heard from since we spent the night together, so.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
They haven't talked since they had so well, never feels good,
that doesn't over there.

Speaker 4 (42:46):
Yes, yes, because it's the big part, not the fact
that she slept with him on the first stage.

Speaker 2 (42:51):
I think it's a little bit of both. I mean,
that's that's the risk you take. He might not call
you the next day, the next couple of days. Like,
but Samantha's a friend, we are She's like, all right, girl,
forget about him. We ain't got to invite him. You
will have millions of men drooling over you when they
see this pick on the side of the bus. It's
the best personal ad. So all the men are going

(43:11):
to be coming to you. And Carrie's like, all right, Sam,
thank you for turning a desperate situation into a hopeless one.
She's very funny. I love Sam. I would think we
could all use a friend like Samantha out there in
the streets.

Speaker 4 (43:22):
That she is.

Speaker 2 (43:23):
Yes, yeah, she really is. She really is. And then
but she was not a good friend of Charlotte. But
you know, I think they're friends off the front. She's
like sea kind of secret sex. Did Charlotte tell you
about her rabbi before the days of a group check.
They had to go to her job because I guess
it's before cell phones, right, They go to her job

(43:45):
because they can't text us. I can't believe they came
to her works to interrogate her, and she clarifies he
wasn't a rabbi. He was an acidic artist from Brooklyn.
She met him at an exhibition and then she went
back to his art studio and they were discussed in
his work.

Speaker 3 (44:01):
Charlotte quickly became intoxicated by his talent, his strangeness and
the smell of his.

Speaker 2 (44:07):
Woll I get it, Like, she's an artist. He's an artist.
He's smart, he's passionate, and sometimes those moments just overtake you.
Even though he wasn't physically her type.

Speaker 4 (44:17):
I guess, but he was confident. Oh, he was so
very talented. That is attractive qualities exactly no matter how
they look. I'm just saying, but you know, I think
this we see a whole new side of Charlotte, and
I love it, and it's making me think she's not
as uptight as we think she is. She's just a
little reserved about it because she she didn't tell anyone

(44:40):
other than Samantha, because Samantha wouldn't judge her right.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
Samantha would support her and not make it about big.

Speaker 3 (44:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (44:45):
I love that.

Speaker 2 (44:46):
Charlotte is, like, you know, able to have fun. She
still is able to have fun and live in her sexual,
feminine side without expecting anything while she's still seeking a husband.
So she finds that good balance. And uh yeah, She's
very much practice to these artists. Charlotte's like it was
so sexy and perfect. So Carrie's like, why not introduce
us to him? And Charlot's like, no, I was doing

(45:08):
embarrassed they couldn't date each other. What would people think?
So Charlotte's kind of no different from Mike Singer in
that instance. I mean maybe they didn't. I don't know
how many times they did it, but Charlie an't never
tell us, but she ain't want to tell nobody because
she was caring about what people were going to think
about it.

Speaker 4 (45:24):
True.

Speaker 2 (45:24):
Yeah, Charlotte is like that. That's not the first time
something like that comes out with Charlotte.

Speaker 4 (45:28):
Yeah, but I think it goes to how it goes
to religion. I mean, because he seems like he is
what do you call it. So he's very traditious and
it be very I don't think she would have been
welcomed and he could have been ostracized too, right, So.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
Yeah, yeah, I think that's a big part of it too.
There was no real future between them. But what does
she mean by what people think? I guess his people
and maybe her people too, in general, people if it's
going to be like you know later down the line.
She had the same questions about somebody else. So but
we'll get there. Sam's like, if the sex is good,
who cares what anyone thinks. Charlotte's like, listen, Carrie, just

(46:13):
please promise me, please, Sis, listen, I don't ask so much.
Just don't put this in your column. I don't want
nobody to know about this. Carrie is like, I promise,
and then she starts writing about secret sex being the
ultimate form of intimacy since it existed in a pure state,
exempt from judgment from the world. Or are we denying

(46:34):
our feelings and emotionally compartmentalizing our lives. I think both
can be true, because if Charlotte did want to explore
this with him with based on feeling or whatever, it
wouldn't it probably would have been it would have been
a can of worms. It wouldn't have been an easy thing.
So I don't know, it's necessary to kind of compartmentalize

(46:55):
and live based on what's realistic.

Speaker 5 (46:57):
You know.

Speaker 2 (46:58):
Yeah, yeah, especially after a certain age, you know, we're
not just having fun anymore. It is like, don't get
serious out here.

Speaker 4 (47:04):
And in the past episodes we talked about how the
friends don't really acknowledge the column, and this is the
first time that they do agree.

Speaker 2 (47:12):
So they do read it and they know and she
does write about them, and they're aware of that. And
if they don't want to be written about, they ask
her and she does not blige Charlotte's.

Speaker 4 (47:23):
Name dog because she didn't.

Speaker 2 (47:26):
She just talked about the topic at hand. I guess,
I guess I think Charlotte meant you know that. That's
why they wrote it that way, where she's like, promise me,
you won't write about it. Got promised, and she's writing
se so I think it's a vide that she broke
her promise. But while she's writing, she gets distracted because
you know who abouts the call.

Speaker 4 (47:45):
Hello you. I will keep my mouth shut.

Speaker 2 (47:53):
Norm No, we love it. I love He's like I
haven't been able to stop thinking about you. She says.
She adores trite. He's like, are you ready for a
real date, the traditional American kind? Dinner in a movie,
and maybe we can even skip the movie. Wink wink.
She's like, as long as you don't skip another dinner.

(48:14):
They're so funny. What a relief.

Speaker 3 (48:17):
I had just escaped the sex on the first date, Curson,
What she did?

Speaker 2 (48:21):
I guess he called and he's asking her out for
a follow up, and I think the curse is you
get ghosted or the relationship is only going to be
based on sex. And he did hint at skipping the movie,
so I don't think carry can get too comfortable. However,
she's able to. I guess continue to hope that it
turns into more. But I don't know what would you

(48:41):
have done if you were her today, in that spacific situation,
after I slept with him and he didn't come me
for a couple days and he called me invited me
for the second date. I would explore with him because
I like him. Clearly she likes him. I would have
to prepare myself to have a direct conversation. It's hard
for me, though, because I truly just believe you lost
your power at that point, and maybe that's something I
gotta shift in my mind to think you can gain

(49:04):
it back or this can be something more if you
if you uh give it up early. But I kind
of do believe that when you get up early, you're
just lucky what you get at that point.

Speaker 1 (49:12):
No, I think you can still turn it around. Be busy,
don't be available. You can literally tell him, yeah, I'm sorry,
I can't. I'm not available, but maybe next week I'll
check my calendar.

Speaker 2 (49:25):
Maybe, but that might not work with about our house,
like mister big a model. My answer? Now cool?

Speaker 1 (49:30):
Now, guess what if she attracted him, she can attract
someone else, So she don't want.

Speaker 2 (49:39):
She does because she's like, they're on their date and
she's like, I'm on a date with someone whose name
I wanted to shout from the rooftop. So she's very
much emotionally invested in this man. They're hugged up. They're
walking about down the street and she's like, yo, my
friends are throwing this thing for me, and then she
gets interrupted. She wants to tell them about her picture
on the bus and everything, but Bigsie, somebody knows and

(50:00):
he has a short conversation with you and doesn't introduce Carrie.
It's a little bit awkward because they're looking at each
other waiting to be introduced, and Big just doesn't do it.
Carry's like, who was that guy? He's like, it's just
somebody ASKI and asking hows you now? But Carrie is confused.
Was she suddenly invisible? No, bitch, he saw you. You

(50:20):
know you was there. She tried not to let that
bother her, and she also tried not to get in
her head about them going to the same Chinese restaurant.
Not cool, not cool at all. As they're at the restaurant,
Big it's like, oh, by the way that party was
talking about earlier, can't make it. It's just getting worse
and worse. She's like, what a shame. I really wanted

(50:42):
you to meet my friends. He's like, well, I'll be
around afterwards if you miss me. Exactly just sex.

Speaker 1 (50:49):
But my thing is she had a decision. You know,
it's not oh Bigg's life. She decided to give it up.
Like she allowed him to control the narrative as a woman. Okay,
you slept with him, get over it. It's what you do
after the fact, just because you gave it up whatever,
who cares. That's the past. Now it's like, how do
you want it to play out in the future. Now,

(51:12):
you fake some confidence, get what you need, introduce yourself
to the person, you know, excuse me how my name is,
and let him know that you're there.

Speaker 4 (51:21):
And just like, I agree with that.

Speaker 2 (51:24):
It's how you react to situations. Things are going to happen,
how you're going to react, how you're going to handle it.
That's what all the books say and the successful people
of the world.

Speaker 4 (51:31):
And you know, I see it as she keeps entertaining
him and taking any crumbs he provides, right, yeah, let's
keep track of of those crumbs.

Speaker 2 (51:43):
H But she never directly speaks to him with confidence
and tells him what she wants from him. I mean
she did that a little bit in the last episode
where we love how she had the power. I don't
do puzzles. She was cool like whatever, but she had sex.

Speaker 1 (51:54):
Yeah yeah, But did you notice like when she did that,
how he was it was being in him like it
was like some respect. He loved it. And then he
was like, oh, so now I have to come up
acting right, and now I have to act accord.

Speaker 2 (52:08):
Yeah, and he didn't got her on a date and
not a thing, but a date.

Speaker 1 (52:11):
Has She continued that she would know what she wanted
a lot better.

Speaker 2 (52:16):
Yeah, they might even went to a better restaurant if
she hadn't had sex first. Like he just took her
to some down the street Chinese and he's taken her
back to the.

Speaker 1 (52:24):
But think about it from a man's perspective, Like, if
you see a woman you guys are vibing cool, and
she accepts anything you give her, why would you change?
Why would you offer.

Speaker 4 (52:34):
Her something else?

Speaker 1 (52:35):
She's okay with the little attention you give her. You know,
just call her every three days. She's like, you know
she's gonna get mad. You're gonna call her when she
comes down. You know, when you're too emotional. They know,
they're like, we don't give them enough credit.

Speaker 2 (52:48):
They sends where they have you.

Speaker 4 (52:51):
And I feel because he is a rich, eligible man,
he doesn't more. No, like you're playing around with Let
me throw some crumbs here and there and then I'm
gonna keep you interested.

Speaker 1 (53:05):
But I also believe that playing She didn't like. Yeah,
he was a mystery, like a big or whatever. But
she didn't like he didn't spend any money on her,
so he wasn't trying to impress her or anything, and
she still like saw him for the confidence and everything
else other qualities did he had, because I think even
if he was still broke, she still would have went
for him based on the confidence he carried.

Speaker 2 (53:25):
So she don't care about money.

Speaker 1 (53:28):
Yeah, she like she wasn't swayed by that, But at
the same time, you know, she probably I'm pretty sure
she would have reacted the same if he didn't have
any money. So the fact that she was just like
all crazy over him so early on.

Speaker 2 (53:42):
I felt like normals to saying that because I feel
like he has the power. Yeah, he has options. He
dates models exactly. It's like I'm entertaining this little writer.

Speaker 4 (53:49):
Yeah, And I was saying that this is his mo o.
He knows he's a rich man, even though he doesn't
say it, that he knows he comes off of as
it and he's confident man. He's an eligible man, and
so he holds the power. And Carrie is in setting
boundaries or claiming her power in this situation, which she can.

(54:12):
She totally can.

Speaker 1 (54:13):
By having other options too and moving just like him.

Speaker 2 (54:16):
What she did before they had sex, so she went
I wrote to so good at it?

Speaker 4 (54:21):
Right.

Speaker 2 (54:21):
She looked around the restaurant and she realizes this is
where you take cheap date you don't want anyone to meet.
She tells Big she's on the deadline and she hass
to go home. So she made the right movie eventually
by not going home with him and having sex with
him again. Yeah, I guess, but she does call Mike
is like, of all.

Speaker 3 (54:37):
The restaurants in Manhattan, why did you take Liby the
fun Law.

Speaker 1 (54:40):
Well, it's pretty sure, so much of a chance of
running for anybody I know.

Speaker 3 (54:44):
So you mean it's the kind of a place that
men take women they don't want to be seen with
in public.

Speaker 2 (54:48):
Yes, it's perfect for that ouch. So he confirms, I
take a libery there because I don't want to be
seen with her in public, and that's the perfect spot
to do it. You know, I've been take her there twice.

Speaker 1 (54:58):
I've been guilty of doing something like that. Okay, so
I guess this is my first confession. I remember being
on the day with some guy from like high school
and we reconnected later down after, you know, graduating or whatever.
But I remember my experience, like in high school and

(55:20):
we had you know, the senior year you go to
like six Flags or something. And I never found him attractive,
but we were in the same like circle, and so he,
you know, really liked me, and I remember flirting with
him and I never was like physically attracted to him,
but I was like, let me just give him a chance.
I remember our first interaction. I kissed him and it
was the worst kiss I've ever had, Like he was

(55:41):
literally like the teeth, like he was hitting my teeth. Anyway,
it's long story. Start, we connected, like he kept He's
like you know those people that just they don't go away,
no matter how many years ago, they want to still
shoot their shot on Instagram and just like, hey, what
are you doing. Let's go out. So I was like
bored one day and I was like I'm hungry, so yeah,
to go. So he had like made these these reservations

(56:05):
to this like really nice restaurant where I lived, and
it was like a really fancy places you dress up
in all of that. I got in the car, he
picked me up. I got in the car and I
immediately couldn't do it. I could not be out there
in public with him. So we ended up ordering pizza
and eating it in the car. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:25):
Wow, that's hilarious. Car you gotta do I couldn't do it.
I'm sorry. That's just where he was at that time.

Speaker 1 (56:35):
But the thing is, like, you know, when you grow
out of you know, you think, oh, like maybe after
high school he'll grow into like a man. No, he
was the same, scrawny damn exactly.

Speaker 2 (56:47):
So I tried. I tried. So I feel like Carrie's
seeking answers to support her narrative, you know, just trying
to trying to validate the Oh, he doesn't want to
duce me to his friends. Oh, he only takes like
you're seeking this. I mean the evidence doesn't look good either. Well,
she says, the evidence was mounting. Call with Mike. Okay,

(57:09):
but you're seeking it true, And I think we do that,
and you shall find we believe a thing, and then
we look for every fact to support guilty. Guilty. Miranda's left,
was said, and he's leaving for a conference in DC.
She's like, I can leave. He's like, no, stay stay
it's six am. I'll be back tonight. You just relax here.

(57:31):
So she waited until he left, and then she ransacked
his apartment. It really disappointed me. I just find it
so disrespectful. I don't think you should let somebody that
you just met stay in your house, Like, get the
fuck out, I leave and you leave. I think it's
a great sign for their relationship that he felt comfortable
enough with her to allow her to Like he's a doctor,

(57:51):
he has an apartment, he's a good catch. He lets
her stay there. I feel like she really should have
respected his home, in his privacy, like I just respect
people like I just can't stay on. People feel entitled
to go through my stuff, like we'll get you the right.
It really bothered me. I've definitely been in a man's
apartment left alone, and I did not go through his stuff.
But that was back when I smoked weed. I did

(58:12):
smoke a little bit of his weed.

Speaker 4 (58:14):
That's okay, that's okay, But I think yes, but.

Speaker 2 (58:17):
Told me I wasn't entitled to anything. He said, he said,
nobody's entitled to anything. I'm not mad that you did it,
because I said I felt entitled to it. He said, no,
one's entitled to anything.

Speaker 4 (58:26):
But okay, but they're entitled to your body and you
can't have weed? What the hell?

Speaker 2 (58:32):
Well, no, that I didn't just have my hate We've been.

Speaker 4 (58:38):
Okay. Well, I did think it was really cringe for
Miranda to snoop around like that in that poor guy's apartment.
Very crnch would I wouldn't one time.

Speaker 2 (58:49):
This guy let me use his Tesla for a little while,
and before I realized where all the camera ingles was,
which is all over the car, I did like look
over my shoulder into the back seat, pick up a receipt,
opened it and then like tossed it back and then
whatever that's what I did was cut on camera. I mean,
I'm sure he didn't bring it up, but the Tesla's record, yeah,

(59:11):
because I had access to the app and everything. So
afterwards I overthought it and I was started playing around
with the app and I saw, yeah, there's dash cam there.

Speaker 4 (59:19):
Like feed or it's recorded that part.

Speaker 2 (59:22):
I don't know for sure. I don't have a Tesla.

Speaker 1 (59:24):
You should have checked the history where he was driving
his car and seen.

Speaker 2 (59:32):
First of all, another bitch dropped off the car to me,
so yeah, looking you were fine. I don't believe in
I don't believe it's snooping.

Speaker 1 (59:40):
I don't know because I don't have that to happen
to me because you know you're going to find some stuff. Yeah,
because I don't delete anything. I have old photos from
every pole.

Speaker 2 (59:51):
Oh yeah, I have all my relationships. Those are memories,
those guys that you keep them. I mean, is that
for that that makes me want to throw up in
my mouth?

Speaker 1 (01:00:01):
I mean, if I'm in a relationship, I think I
to respect. Maybe I'll delete all the memories. But you know,
when you're like catching up with your girlfriend's like, look
at who I met? Look at this, like you have
to have visuals.

Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
Yeah, yeah, I put it right in my little my
little privacy, my little privacy. What is the album? But Miranda,
she found some poem on some interesting poe on some
spanking poem. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:00:29):
It's done in the house and I've been doing it
a lot.

Speaker 3 (01:00:32):
I don't know what to do. I ken'd ad meant
to haven't found this, but now I don't know if
I want to see him again. How can you chudge
them till you spank them?

Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
She took it to carry South. They wid for together,
and Carrie is finally not bringing up Big you know,
She's like, that was funny. That was funny. That was
very cute.

Speaker 4 (01:00:49):
I feel like it was not only was a crunch
for her to snoop around, but take whatever you found
in this man's apartment and show it to your friend.
How rude.

Speaker 2 (01:01:00):
I mean, in her defense, it was like somebody, that's
not my man, he's somebody just had sex. But real quick,
this kiky, real quick. I mean, I ain't want to
steal it, but I definitely would be like, girl, yes
what I've found if I did that?

Speaker 1 (01:01:14):
Is there any like porn fetishes that you were like
completely would be turned off by if you were to
find it?

Speaker 2 (01:01:21):
Pegging?

Speaker 4 (01:01:22):
I feel like the illegal kind like child but like
like you know, weird porn. I'm open to it, like
toa sucking Yeah, all of that.

Speaker 2 (01:01:32):
Oh yes, Miranda is like, I can't date him if
he's into this. Carrie is like, maybe it's not really him,
maybe it's his fantasy life, which okay, that's that's very real.
Some people watch porn as a fantasy thing. It's nothing
that they can relate to. It could have even not
been his. Like, there's so many things, so many you

(01:01:53):
don't know until you ask directly, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:01:56):
Like the VHS or like your phone, Yeah, there's history
on your phone.

Speaker 2 (01:01:59):
No, the v like that the porn tape might not
have been his. What if he just had a laugh
with a previous date about it or something like that.
You know, Like she don't even know, so she's just
want taking this thing and making a whole narrative out
of it. That's what these girls do. That's what I'm
guilty of two at times.

Speaker 3 (01:02:14):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:02:15):
Yeah, in this case, that's what she gets for looking around.

Speaker 2 (01:02:18):
M In the next scene, they are pouring this champagne
and they are toasting to Carry's picture on the bus
when Sam asks where's mister big. Harry's like, he couldn't
make it. He had a work thing. When you say
that he said he couldn't bake it, you could mean
him after that's what he said, But he had a
work thing. Sure, Sam's like, this is your bus party.

(01:02:40):
Charle's like, see, you shouldn't have slept with him. Well,
she tries to catch herself because Charlotte has a little
bit before him, but Carrie pulls it out of her
and Carry's like, what you're saying, he's not here because
I slept with him, And Charlotte's like, yeah, when you
sleep with the man on the first date. The relationship
will only be sex, agreed. I thought she said that

(01:03:03):
at the beginning. Carry doesn't respond, she just gets in
her head and she just cheers, but she narrates. I
don't want to admit it, but Charlotte's right, Damn, I
shouldn't have did it. She just wanted to see her
bus and get the hell up out of there, because
she's like, my friends, now, I'm embarrassed. Let's just go
back to that pillow and cries, okay, or get another one,
just move on. Mike even shows up. I got say,

(01:03:26):
bfs now because he's dating somebody else, and Carrie, you
need to see him every other second. But he shows
up to her bus and she's like, where's Libby? Claps
for Libby because she finally got some self respect and
she met someone else who didn't have his problem with intimacy.
Go Libby, she found her. She was liberated enough, honey.

(01:03:49):
At that point, Carrie's buss tries by, and I forgot
about this one. I was so excited for them to
idea either somebody's a huge dick. By her face, she
was so shocked, and of course her friends accompanying her,
like nobody's even going to notice nobody even looks at
the bus unless it's about to hit them. We were

(01:04:10):
just here celebrating how big this is, and now.

Speaker 1 (01:04:12):
You guys are just laughed at myself. They're really good friends.
It's not a big deal.

Speaker 2 (01:04:16):
It would suck though, I wouldn't like it. I wouldn't
like it. But whatever coming all the time.

Speaker 1 (01:04:22):
And then someone draws a dick on your sex column.

Speaker 2 (01:04:26):
It's a respectful way I talk about sex, and a
respectful way. It was probably some man who's mad that she,
like a woman who does that work, deserves a dick
on her face.

Speaker 4 (01:04:36):
I don't know, honest Honestly, I think the funniest part
of that scene is Charlotte's face. She's like, I don't know,
how would you describe her face?

Speaker 2 (01:04:45):
But she's like inarious, cringe, it's hilarious.

Speaker 1 (01:04:51):
Going back to Libby, though, how long is too long
to be dating someone and they haven't asked you out
to be official?

Speaker 4 (01:05:01):
Three months?

Speaker 1 (01:05:01):
Three months? Three months?

Speaker 4 (01:05:03):
Who said that that's my role?

Speaker 1 (01:05:06):
But like, how many times are out? How many times?
Like how many dates are you on by? Now? That's
counting by dates? Because three months?

Speaker 2 (01:05:16):
Oh no, girl, I don't know, because I think It
depends on the quality of the dates. I mean, I
feel like if you only went on one date a
month or three months, that ain't nothing. You know, maybe
like five dates, but five dates is a good number.

Speaker 4 (01:05:31):
Five dates and three months, Well it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:33):
Doesn't have to be three months. Like, if you just
want to do dates, how many dates would you go
on before you're either going to make this official or not?
I think five is good. Yeah, lucky number seven, I'll
go with. Look what about you, Dana, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:05:50):
It's it shouldn't be up to them to decide when
they want to be.

Speaker 2 (01:05:54):
Official, right, Like I'm not asking a man, of course,
not right, But.

Speaker 1 (01:05:59):
I'm saying like having multiple having multiple stages, like open,
like being in a relationship with multiple that way, you know,
you fill it out and you're like, Okay, this person
has all the qualities. But I think I'm going a
little out of topic, So I would say seven is
good seven dates.

Speaker 2 (01:06:20):
Multiple people, because and multiple people date multiple people. If
you meet somebody the qualities of all your guys, why
do you have to say dates?

Speaker 1 (01:06:32):
Why settle with one when you can have like all
of them, you know, and obviously you want And realistically,
I'm just being facetious, but I think that you're you're
not so emotionally attached to that one. Like if Carrie
was dating quality, like three other quality men, big would
be chasing her wanting to commit to her. But when

(01:06:55):
you're like seeking, like, oh my gosh, when is he
gonna ask me out? Every Like, you're you're giving them
too much credit and so he's going to prolonge see
how much he can get from you without working as hard. Yeah,
I think that guy Livy's Mike, he was doing that
to Liby because Libby was allowing that to happen, you know,
So it's just like, yeah, he could be a jerk

(01:07:16):
or whatever. But at the same time, as a woman,
you take accountability for receiving that treatment and be you know.
That's why I'm like, how long is too long?

Speaker 2 (01:07:26):
I agree not to put all your eggs in one basket,
to like explore multiple avenues, especially so you're not so
fixated on one person. But I don't think it's bad
at the same time to have a crush and to
like someone and to wonder and to want more from them.
You just can't go down that rabbit hole and drive
yourself crazy to the point of doing what you know
my good sis did at the end of this episode. Well,

(01:07:46):
we're not there yet, but where we are is Miranda.
She's on a date with Ted. You know I missed
you today. I guess I've just been waiting all this
time for good kicking ahead time here.

Speaker 3 (01:08:00):
I thought that all you really wanted was a good spanking.

Speaker 2 (01:08:04):
O she spanked him?

Speaker 4 (01:08:06):
Why would she stress? Why would she mention that? Really?

Speaker 2 (01:08:15):
I guess she was open to it.

Speaker 4 (01:08:16):
Okay. One thing is to snoop around and find something,
and another thing is to tell the person that he
snooped around and you found his did and you watched it?

Speaker 1 (01:08:25):
Did she say, like, did he know that?

Speaker 2 (01:08:27):
I'm assuming if she spanked him, he's assuming that she
found out Wait, she spank or maybe he just don't
like that, like she never knew what the spanking was about,
where it came from, if he was into that or not.
Maybe a girl man doesn't want to be spanked in
the middle of the street, like you don't. Honestly, if
I if I took his porn watched it with my

(01:08:48):
good friend and like made fun of his fetish, or
I just I wouldn't be able to date him going forward.
Because then my friend's all gonna think, got be spanking
my man. Well, carry wasn't judgmental of a damn would
have judgment She wouldn't have. No, she was Charlie on
the other hand.

Speaker 1 (01:09:04):
Okay, so then why bring it up? Why even mention
it if you don't want your friends to judge you
or anything.

Speaker 4 (01:09:09):
It's just like, yeah, that's what I'm saying, Like, why
does she bring it up? Look, listen, this is the
first guy that she meets in a cute way. He's cute,
he's handsome, he has a great career and a committ
cute he has a career, and they're vibing. Why would
she she sucked it up.

Speaker 2 (01:09:27):
She really didn't, because she got real uncomfortable after she
said you have sinking and spanked them. He got in
the cab. He least he didn't take her home. He
didn't answer any of her calls, and he stopped going
to that gym because it was like, I never want
to see this again ghost. And she was so confident,
she had on her confident face like staked him, looked

(01:09:49):
intet in his eyes, like what you ready to do tonight?

Speaker 4 (01:09:54):
I'm gonna have to rewatch that one scene because I
didn't notice the actual spanky yet.

Speaker 2 (01:10:00):
Yeah, it was bad, a drunk carry I guess from
all that sham pag and that she was having at
her bus went to mister Big and confronted him. I
guess about all her illusion.

Speaker 3 (01:10:11):
I just came here to tell you that if you're
embarrassed or ashamed to be involved with me in any way,
that we can no longer see each other.

Speaker 2 (01:10:20):
He's like, what are you talking about? And she lays
it out. She's like, you don't introduce me to your friends.
You don't you take me to low key restaurants, and
you don't want to meet my friends. Power down the tallest.

Speaker 1 (01:10:31):
This and that's the kind of obsession I want. That's
what I This is what I'm talking about. This is crazy,
like a man coming to knock on your door. Yep,
Like when are you going to introduce me to your parents?

Speaker 3 (01:10:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:10:44):
Sure, Yeah. Carrie bothered me so much, like she lost
again all her power. Like just there's a way even
if you have these questions, there's a way to communicate
it without This is how you feel about me. This
is what you've been doing. Like very accusatory, very you
language and you're doing that drunk to this powerhouse girl.
Get it to God.

Speaker 1 (01:11:03):
But damn like the whole mister big and he's so
powerful like that if you poured all that energy in
how you she viewed him like, she put him in
such a high pedal. So if she put that into
her like walked on, I'm the best journalist. My face
is on that bus. He will literally treat her as
such because she did not see herself that way.

Speaker 2 (01:11:23):
She doesn't.

Speaker 1 (01:11:24):
She got played indeed, like I'm.

Speaker 3 (01:11:28):
Only a particular fragment of the kind of person you
think that you should be dating.

Speaker 2 (01:11:34):
But I've only gotten to know a particular fragment, although
I'm beginning to know more. This is not me.

Speaker 3 (01:11:41):
This is me reacting to your perception of me.

Speaker 2 (01:11:44):
That's says, yeah, you projecting his perception. He never said anything,
he never said any of that. He answers all the questions.
He's like, I go to that restaurant because I like
the food. I'm introduced to that guy because I can't
remember his name. I had court side tickets to the
Knicks tonight. I was never gonna go see one of us.
All who would you go to that game? Exactly?

Speaker 3 (01:12:02):
That's what.

Speaker 4 (01:12:04):
You didn't invite me.

Speaker 2 (01:12:05):
Yeah, you want to celebrate me being on the bus
by taking me. Okay, all right, But that's just what
I mean by Big being a simple guy too. He's
a simple guy like Harry, just she doesn't take him
at face value, which is what she should have done
from the beginning, and maybe she would have had more
a better I don't know long term situation with him.

Speaker 4 (01:12:22):
But I think he made it way deep. I think
he's also not validating her concerns. He's just plainly responding
to them, but not apologizing in any way.

Speaker 5 (01:12:32):
Why.

Speaker 1 (01:12:34):
First of all, she has an anxious attachment. He comes
off as you know, secure obviously and possibly avoidant to
her because she's like, why aren't you doing this? Why
aren't she like giving her more than what she wants
in that moment. But at the same time, it's just
like tang girl, get a grip. It was so hard,
that's watching these like first three four seasons up to

(01:12:58):
the sixth was hard to watch because you know, I'm
glad I watched it at the stage in my life.

Speaker 2 (01:13:03):
Yeah, yeah, I agree with that. The influence that it
has on women in dating culture, I think is a
real thing. But I don't, you know, I want to
get into all that. I agree with Norms to an extent.
Although she showed up unannounced and accused him, if he
liked her, he could have validated or reassured her, or
been a little bit more sensitive to her craziness. He
didn't have to.

Speaker 1 (01:13:21):
True, But at the same time, they're not in a relationship,
so he doesn't owe her anything.

Speaker 4 (01:13:27):
True, they're not in a relationship, but they're going out,
and if he's really interested, he would reassure her. No,
you don't think I think so.

Speaker 2 (01:13:35):
I think, yeah, I think so. I think if he cared.
But it's also like, you're projecting your insecurities onto me,
and maybe I can comfort you, but or maybe I
can teach you how to be a growing up and
stand on your own legs and not project whatever insecurities
you got on to somebody else, because I think I'm
nothe doing me. But I do think Sex and the
City was just as much liberating as it is stifling.
You know, I do think that these women do portray

(01:13:56):
weak mindsets. But at the same time, I think when
this show came out, women having sex and owning their
sexuality and doing it on the first date wasn't was
something that just wasn't even discussed period. So we got
to remember that we're in nineteen ninety eight, you know, Yeah,
like you would be a slut or a whoe like
Samanda's like the most hated character in the nineties really
based on the way she was. And yeah, I guess
there was some empowerment that came through this show. Yeah,

(01:14:18):
so carrys like, so maybe me and you ever real
He pulls her in and he says, could be.

Speaker 4 (01:14:25):
See even mad response, I'm like, that's it, this could
be damn sure.

Speaker 2 (01:14:30):
Yes, that was enough for her exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:14:32):
It was enough for to sleep with him and crumbs,
little crumbs, and she let him again with him again
the there Okay, so would you honestly you already know
my answer, but would you continue to entertain and quote
unquote date mister big.

Speaker 2 (01:14:50):
I would I would stop having sex with him Easier
said than easier said than done. But you got to
you gotta let him know the boundary. You got to
communicate what you expect, what you want, and Carrie never
really did that and continue to give it up without
doing that. So I would have to communicate what I want,
what I expect from him and this is what at

(01:15:10):
this age would have to do. And yeah, but I
would continue, see, mister bigg that's a court side ticket
to the next.

Speaker 4 (01:15:17):
You know what I'm excited for. I'm really excited for
episode seven. I will ask you that question again.

Speaker 2 (01:15:25):
All right, to answer it, I want to just acknowledge. Also,
Carrie's not playing it the way that I believe it
should be played. Based on the way Carrie's planning, she
needs to quit while she's head. Yeah, but that's how
the episode ends with them doing it again. I loved
it all right. Now we're going to get into the
cringiest moments of the episode. We got like four of them, bruh.

(01:15:48):
So the first one is Carrie's scheduling a bus photo
viewing and then there's a dick next to her mouth
in the picture like a whole party champagne celebration, only
for the bus to pull up and there's just a
dick on your And I know she's surrounded by her
support system, but it is a little embarrassing and it
would have been ten times worth if Big Daddy Big
was there, in my opinion, Thank god, it wasn't that her.

Speaker 4 (01:16:10):
Oh my god, I think he would have liked it.
He would have laughed.

Speaker 1 (01:16:15):
He probably would have laughed.

Speaker 2 (01:16:16):
He don't take nothing too serious.

Speaker 4 (01:16:17):
No, he doesn't, And that's the only trait.

Speaker 2 (01:16:20):
I like it too, honestly. The second cringiest moment is
Carrie showing up to Bigg's house drunk and questioning him
all insecure, all accusatory, and it's just too early for that.
Like he's like, I'm getting to know you and now
I'm getting to know you more. And I don't think
he meant that in a good way. He didn't, but

(01:16:40):
thankfully he did receive it well, like he allowed on
the show up and has his house unannounced without checking her.
They slept together again. But you know, I'm gonna say
I probably said too much, but it was a loss
of power. The third cringiest moment is the situationship between
Mike's singer and Libby. According to Mike, Libby is not
pretty enough for him to date her publicly. Just shame,

(01:17:02):
and I feel so bad for any woman stuck in
that position that doesn't recognize her power to walk away. Yeah,
and I just want to say I did think Libby
was a very pretty woman, was so pretty.

Speaker 4 (01:17:12):
I agree so pretty, and she just seemed like a
really kind person too.

Speaker 2 (01:17:17):
Yeah, I agree, And I want to say Mike probably
never told her to her face that she was not
pretty to him. He did treat her a certain way,
but I doubt he said that to her. And the
last cringey moment we have is Miranda smacking that man's ass,
thinking she's opening up to what he likes based on
a narrative she stole herself by stalking his house in
the corn or whatever, only to get ghosted. Embarrassing, embarrassing,

(01:17:44):
I have to say, I definitely. Oh, I don't know.
I'm tied between Harry showing up drunk and Miranda smacking
that man's ass in the New York streets.

Speaker 1 (01:17:55):
With Miranda, I'm going with Carrie.

Speaker 2 (01:18:00):
Carrie show in this big house.

Speaker 1 (01:18:01):
Yes, like girl, man, put some respect on yourself.

Speaker 2 (01:18:06):
Ah yeah, yeah, I'm gonna go with with Miranda too,
just because we don't never see him again. Mister Biggley's
came back, but.

Speaker 1 (01:18:16):
He came back to torture her.

Speaker 4 (01:18:20):
I would I am going to choose the Carrie showing
up at bigs place?

Speaker 2 (01:18:28):
Is that a tie?

Speaker 3 (01:18:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:18:30):
All right? Well, let us know you think what you
think is the cringiest moment of the episodes. The listeners
have to break the tie, hit us up at Sex
in the City of Angels.

Speaker 1 (01:18:44):
Now, let's get ready to sex, and the social media
at abby GPT says, actually so excited to be thirty
two because Carrie Bradshaw was thirty two and season one
of Sex in the City, and I will be making
it my entire personality trait. That's like, that's what I'm
talking about, Like, learn from it, don't follow her path

(01:19:07):
like she was.

Speaker 2 (01:19:08):
Fabulous, though fabulous in a way, in a way, we're
her heels.

Speaker 1 (01:19:12):
Yes, that's cute. I love that, but her personality trait
was not something that you want, not the personality.

Speaker 4 (01:19:19):
At Bianca Coreon, I watched the season of Sex in
the City last year and it was traumatic. Much respect
to you guys who managed to finish it.

Speaker 1 (01:19:29):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:19:31):
I was like, thank you for putting respect on our name.
Not only did we finish it, but we're doing a
rewatch show, so yeah, we Crane, we do this for
you guys.

Speaker 1 (01:19:41):
At Spicy, which friend are you in Sex and the City?
I think I think I'm a mix of Carrie and Miranda.
What about you?

Speaker 2 (01:19:55):
Guys, I think I'm a mix of Charlotte and Miranda
that and Carrie. Yeah, I'm definitely Carrie and Carrie. I'm
probably really Miranda because you're a lover girl. I'm a
lover girl. I do embarrassing things. She tells herself stories
I tell myself.

Speaker 4 (01:20:16):
Earlier.

Speaker 2 (01:20:17):
I definitely did. But yeah, I tell myself stories.

Speaker 1 (01:20:20):
I would say I'm a mixture of all of them
because I have literally all the traits.

Speaker 2 (01:20:25):
Oh, I'm Samantha too, because I think I'm a really
really good.

Speaker 1 (01:20:27):
Friend saying I will hype you up until you believe
what I'm talking about her.

Speaker 4 (01:20:33):
I also think I'm a mix of all of them.
At bonamerg, I wanted to raise my memory just to
watch Sex and the City again. Yes, I agree, I
agree to you. I know that way about certain movies
and things.

Speaker 2 (01:20:45):
That's a city movie. The movies.

Speaker 1 (01:20:50):
I actually enjoyed them way better like the.

Speaker 2 (01:20:52):
Movies for everything. Everything that's made me go back and
rewatch it like with more the contention.

Speaker 1 (01:20:59):
Okay, so at Lydia huged gu deep into my annual
Sex and the City rewatch, and I suddenly had the
arch to start wearing heels every day here, I mean
tell I.

Speaker 4 (01:21:11):
Read that as my anal sex.

Speaker 2 (01:21:13):
Yeah, that's why I laughed. I'm like, wait, what my
anal sex and the City watching? Yeah yeah, no, yeah.
They definitely made me not start wearing hills, but I
definitely am dating again.

Speaker 1 (01:21:24):
So yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:21:26):
Yeah, I tell you girls more when they turned the
MIC's off.

Speaker 4 (01:21:29):
But wow, sal it doesn't make me want to wear
heels every day, but it does make me want to
maybe start dating again, but definitely going out with friends
and lunching.

Speaker 1 (01:21:42):
You know what's so funny because you know, we're all single,
right and we all started off single, Like at the
end of the season they all get married and all
they're like, not all of them, but whatever, Like it
would be so interesting how our dynamics grow and how
we were like it was, you know, like.

Speaker 4 (01:21:59):
What so as a time, as a show goes on
and we start and if we start dating, are we
gonna share about our dating?

Speaker 2 (01:22:06):
Of course unless we really like them about it depends
on how serious. I don't know. This was so much fun.
We're gonna get back to it for episode seven. I
can't wait to see you guys. Make sure you follow
us at Sex and the City of angels, follow me
at the Kayla, Austin at Yogi Underscore, Aliyah at.

Speaker 4 (01:22:29):
Dayana at norm Slow, can you and We'll see you next.

Speaker 2 (01:22:34):
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