March 4, 2025 • 48 mins
Now on to episode 9, The Turtle and the Hare. Can a man be a fixer upper and made to be your dream guy? Samantha tried it. We get into it. Join the conversation @SexInTheCityOfAngels
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is Sex in the City of Angels podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Welcome back to another episode of Sex in the City
of angel Yeah, we are almost through season one. We're
on episode nine, The Turtle and the Hair. I'm Kayla,
I'm Aliah.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Kai, I'm norm Slawaka.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
And Dana still on her eat pray love, traveling the world,
living her best life. But she'll be back and she
will be with us soon. This episode, huh yeah, I
mean keep song, keeping on very very very very turtle
very yeah. After the classic intro, we meet Perfect Brook.
(00:58):
She's an interior designer who always dated a list guys.
Every Saturday night was like senior prom with a different beat.
When she got married, the girls were so excited to
see which guy made the cut?
Speaker 4 (01:10):
Was I the only one who remembered that Brook once
described this man as more boring than exposed brick.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
He was more boring than exposed brick. He made the cut.
I thought that was funny, because you never forget what
your friends tell you about their dude. Unfortunately, I know
you never know which ones are really gonna work out.
And I gotta stop telling my friends everything, because yeah,
they ain't gonna forget that shit. They gonna forget it.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
It's like those reels where it says me dancing on
my friend's wedding with the men, I told her to
dumb girl.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Or she was like, remember you told me not to
put all my eggs in his basket. I was getting
my friend sent me something too recently about her baby dad.
I don't remember what I said, but she was like,
this is you when it comes to me about how
a friend who don't forget well, he said like, girl,
don't forget what he said. And she's not married to him,
so until she is, girl, No, ain't forget it.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
No.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
But while we sitting here hating on them and they
dancing it, they went and they happy with they baby
and family. Their wedding was an average one hundred thousand
dollars wedding, and our girls were dressed in all black.
Carrie said they looked like the witches Eastwick, and I
think it was a lot of people dressed in black,
so I don't think it was like them being like
funeral at a wedding. But I do love the fact
that they all kind of coordinated.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Yeah. I really like their outfits. Even Miranda Silen stepped
it up on this episode. I would say, Okay, everyone
looked good.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
She says. The wedding at this size always has two
singles tables, and they rat the other one, the less cool,
the less cool one. They were with the children and
the weirdo, and just then that's when the turtle sent
next to them. He was known for two things, good
investments and bad breath. When anybody has like or they
talk about that, they always make the character just get
(02:56):
like really uncomfortably close to the person's face. And he
tried to make a move on Sammy Joe. Sammy Joe's like,
I'm at the other table and went to the cool
table and he's like talking to carry trying to see
if he has a shot, and she's like huh, and
then just start sniffing the flower to get away from him.
It was so funny. I just felt it, like you've
I've been around people with habitually bad breath, so you
(03:18):
just feel the energy coming through the screen.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
I feel like I could smell his breath.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
What did smell like to you? Something undescribable, just stink,
g ass, breash, Chinese or platosis, I don't even.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Yeah, like morning breath with garlic, oh god, and even
more and tooth thickake or something.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
I don't Yeah, I want to tell a story of
when I drove to Atlanta County to Cape Make County
in New Jersey. If you're familiar, shoutouts with the woman
at my job who had terribly bad breath and I
kept putting essential oils on my upper lip. It sent
it like orange. You couldn't offer a stick of gum.
I didn't have a stick of gum. I don't even
chew gum like that myself. Plus even if I did,
(03:59):
I will know how to do that. But all I
know I was I was trying to protect myself and
I kept putting orange essential oil on my top lip
and it's like orange of funk. Yeah, exactly. Orange isn't
the best ESSENTI maybe ecliptus or something a little stronger,
tea tree thing limit limit did the oranges.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
In my purse?
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Elli?
Speaker 3 (04:16):
And Kayla? If I ever have bad breath, let me know, don't.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
I don't get close enough to people to the day
I can tell you don't know. Okay, I mean, I
just can't say that I have ever smell norms breath.
Can you let me know too? Yeah, Yeah, we'll let
each other know. After two hours they were bored, supplies
were dwindling, and Samantha jump ship. She was making out
some Hattie mccatstein, because they always meet the Hatti mcatsteins,
(04:41):
according to them, anyway, according to their standards. Charlotte wants
to stick around and catch the bouquet, and Miranda's like,
so not happening. They all say bye to the bride
and she gives them all individual parting words.
Speaker 5 (04:59):
Do that.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Pelle's got some great single friends.
Speaker 5 (05:10):
It's always better to marry someone who loves you more
than you love them.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Why did she say what she said to each one
of them? Why did she say to Miranda? Can you
believe I finally did it? Miranda gave her a fake,
a smile that she sure wiped off the second her
eyes behind girl's back, like fake, Like I don't want
to know why I like that at my wedding. No,
but I think she gave them all something that was
particular to their character. I will say Miranda's like the
(05:34):
cinistic one or cynical, Yeah, cynical one, Like you know
you're not gonna believe I did it, So you can't
believe I finally did it? And then too Charlotte like
you're next, and then Carrie Charlotte's wife. Yeah, cause Charlotte's
wife be like, yeah, this is what you want is
coming for you. And then for Carrie, she needed that
reminder marry someone who loves you more, which I've heard
(05:56):
from other people before.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
I've heard that too.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Women naturally love harder, so you always want a man
who wants you more than you want them. That's what
I think women are taught. Where we all taught that.
I wasn't taught that. I feel like it's something I
heard in my adulthood. I even heard Rihanna said it.
You know, when I say taught, I don't necessarily in childhood.
But I do think, like you know, we're told that.
We're taught that like that that's the key to a
healthy relationship, whether here as an adult, teenager, kid. It's
(06:20):
something that women say to each other.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Yeah. I can't say I hear it too often. I
don't know that everyone all women are buying into that one,
but I've heard it before.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
I feel like I've heard it for older from older
women in our families, but maybe once or twice, not
as often as the toxic Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Yeah, Carrie says, people always tell her things that she
doesn't want to hear, and then she calls Big, asking.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
Question, why do people get married if they're not in love?
Speaker 6 (06:52):
I don't know, companionship guild, political asylum.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Why did you get married?
Speaker 3 (07:01):
That is so sweet?
Speaker 2 (07:02):
And then I was a divorce court.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Yeah, now you're just a fool.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Exactly, which is why I'm never getting married again. Another
bomb dropped by mister Big. Episode by episode. Now, uh,
he's never getting married again. I want to say the
reasons that he gave guilt, political asylum. I forget what
else he said, but I feel like that those were
all valid reasons that people probably really consider before they
jump into getting married. But that was real. Yeah, all
(07:29):
of a sudden, carry had to concentrate on breathing, which
is just a real relatable feeling when somebody you're into
or you're bow that you project onto just says something
that just like wait, huh, bomb, you gotta ground yourself again?
At cool? Oh, I love that for us. That's great.
Happy on the same page, that sucks. And then she
(07:52):
asked are you in bed with someone? And he's like, no,
are you? And she's like, just three slices of wedding cake.
Are you jealous? He's like, depends on what you want
to do with the frosting. She's like good night, and
he's like good night. So now she's cool with him
seeing other people. I'm just confused, because you want to
understand still with you in a park two days ago? Now,
I was like, Hey, so you're in bed with somebody?
Or are you good? Like? Where do you stand Carrie?
(08:14):
What are your boundaries with this man? I guess she
recognized a hand gaver all or nothing answer. He just
stood still with her in the park. Yeah, so okay,
she got the message.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
You know what I saw it.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
More of her or big statement of not wanting to
get married was a little triggering to her, and so
her jealousy immediately came out. Are you in bed with someone?
That's how I took it most Oh that's true?
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Say that? Yeah? Maybe she thinks to herself, could she
really date a man who never wanted to get married?
I don't think I could not at this age.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
I mean, I feel like you should cut it before
you gets you going deeper into that relationship.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Yes, ma'am. How many some options if I'm entertaining that. Yeah,
she asked to check in with her friends.
Speaker 5 (09:02):
Wow, a guy.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Who doesn't want.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
To get married filming eleven?
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Don't tell me you're surprised by this?
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Do you ever wanted to get married? Mayor? Who missed you?
She starts to realize that that's maybe isn't her target
audience who says things like that to somebody? My man,
I never wants to get married. Oh you surprised?
Speaker 4 (09:18):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (09:18):
You know?
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Only people that miss that Mommy's gets married like Mary cynical?
Speaker 3 (09:23):
What echo pessimist? People who love to burst people's bubbles.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Of course, Charlotte didn't feel that way. Charlotte says she's
the only one who thinks that this is a major bummer.
What if you spend five years with him and then
you have nothing to show for it? She said she
wasn't thinking about it until he took it off the table,
and now it's all she could think about, which is
interesting because we're, you know, thirty something dating. So if
I if I'm seeing somebody you know regularly enough, I'm like,
(09:52):
is this my husband? Where does he hear what I mean?
He definitely said a definitive statement. My mind set these
days as there's no weeds, no reason why you should
not take that as his truth. So then yeah, you
have a lot to contemplate if you want to be
serious with this man and you recognize that, how serious
could it get if he doesn't want to get married.
So I understand that Sam says the golden rule what
(10:15):
you've been saying the whole time, Aliyah, pretty much, just
be cool, you don't care, and when you stop caring,
he will, and there'll be a whole new ball game.
Unfortunate part of the game. I hate that part of
the game.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Do you still think it's true though, because to me
it sounded a little immature.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
You sound like Miranda, because Miranda's like, what is it
just always sixth grade for you? I mean, unfortunately, I
think it is true. I think, but I feel like
the worst part of it all is you can't control it.
It's not like, oh, I love this man up, I
want him to be my husband, but I want to
act like I don't care. Unfortunately, it's like when you
really don't care, that's when the dudes you don't care
about come for you the hardest. And when you do care.
(10:53):
I guess guys sense that, and for some reason it
just doesn't work out the way you want it to.
Our good Cusdaina, I think would agree that, you know,
the less you care, the more they do.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Yes, okay, so twin X and I do agree with that,
but I would say it in different terms, right, like,
as soon as you stop chasing and you don't give
them that attention, then they start chasing you.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
Right.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Yeah, I don't know that was a tactic. I'm still
trying to master. I'll let you know how that goes. Unfortunately,
I'm with Charlotte. She thinks honesty and communication are ways
to success. Yes, it's true, Samantha shit right on it.
She said that's cute at twenty five, but you're thirty
two now and it's just stupid.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Ye's wrong, I mean, not wrong, but I mean this
is coming from someone who gave up on that, right.
She doesn't want a date, she doesn't want a commitment,
she doesn't want marriage, So of course it's coming. That's
going to come from Samantha. But don't be mean to Charlotte.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Yeah, I mean, you know, I guess Charlotte's used to
it by now. But Miranda Carrie is like, so should
I just ignore it? Miranda says, yes, shar says no.
Miranda's like, what's the big deal. In fifty years men
will be obsolete anyways. We can't talk to them. We
don't need them to have kids. You don't even need
them to have sex anymore. And then she proclaims love
(12:14):
for her vibrator. Carrie's like, oh, so you're replacing a
man with a battery operated device. But the Rabbit was
an ultimate I guess vibrator in the nineties. I love
that it compares to the Rose. Four. I'm gonna be
last year. I'm outdated, but the Rose. I haven't heard
(12:34):
anything else after the Rose. Not that I talk to
people about vibrators too often, but the Rose was a
topic of all conversation.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
No, I'm all about the magic wand wireless magic wond.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
No, have you heard of the Rose? Yes, okay, I
don't know if a wand compares to a rose. I
ain't never tried the wand, so I don't know. But
not everybody talking about the magic wand that rose. Now
I'm kidding, But yes, I.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Mean I am shopping for a new one, so maybe.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Get you a rose, girl. And then I want to
know if the Rose compared to the magic wand will
you will be able to talk to the magic wand
after you meet the rose, you know what it will.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Yeah, let's stay tuned for them. I'll keep you posted.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Samantha's like, if you're going to get a vibrator and
get something named the horse, not a rabbit, Charlotte says
all the things a vibrator can't do. She's like, a
vibrator can't call you on your birthday, It can't send
you flowers. You can't take it home to meet your mom.
Can't do that with ninety of these guys now, anyway,
God bless. Miranda's like she knows where her next orgasm
(13:35):
is coming from? Can any of you say the same?
And all the girls looked around real guilty, like because
Miranda made a good point, checkmate. And the next scene,
Samantha went on a date with a real guy while
the other girls they go out to buy a rabbit.
It's ninety two dollars, and Charlie's like, there's no way
I'm buying that. I'm just gonna save sex for someone.
It is expensive. It's actually gonna save sex or someone special.
(13:58):
And then Carrie pulls down He's like, oh my god,
it's so adorable. It's not scary at all. It looks
like a little Johnny rabbit. It's like, okay, Charlotte, that's
all you needed to look at it, Okay, all right.
Carry In the next scene, is in bed with her
new rabbit that she bought, just staring at it and
not using it, looking at it very confused, like or interested.
I don't know what kind of expression she was giving.
(14:19):
But Sam calls to tell her about a date she
had with Jeremy. He was a man that she met
at Brook's wedding. He said he knew from the moment
he saw her at the wedding that he would be
taking her out. She says, Ooh, you're cocky, and he's like,
while checking out another woman. Sam didn't notice, but he's like,
when I see something I like, I go after it.
She's like, ooh, You're my type of guy. He's like,
(14:42):
hold that thought. I know that feeling. Unfortunately, why was
being attracted to like a confident, cocky yess dude that
just like looks at you, but like you get what
he wants from you by the way he's looking at you.
So yeah, And I can't help but to sometimes be
attracted to that. Oh yeah, the confidence is key. If
you're confident, then yeah, I think I think that attracts
(15:04):
a lot of people. He looks like the cook guy.
What's that cook guy, Guy Fieri or something like that,
the blonde one, the idiot sandwich guy, Guy Fieri's somebody. Yeah,
he looks like the guy that the guy that she
went on a date with, looks like him. But I
don't know if it is him, but slimmer, yeah, but
he was.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
It was.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
It was the nineties. It's not him, no, no, all
right whatever. All these hot white guys look like uh huh.
But yeah, he said, hold that thought, and she obviously
had seen something else he liked and.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
Gone after it.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
He was there, just all bowed up with another woman,
all in her face, leaning over her, flirty back and forth,
out disrespectful, Almost as bad as a few episodes back
where Skipper broke up with the girl he was inside
of her. I mean, just going on a date with
some dude. He's like, damn, I never experienced that one.
(15:54):
But that's fucked up. That that that hurts. That hurts. Sorry.
Bounce back from like that would definitely take a shot
at my steam shout in my confidence. I just like,
who does that? Damn? Like, these men are savage out.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
Here, trash, and we do see the hurt in her
in her.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Vowed for her the acting. I felt for her too,
But you know what, I do love these girls because
they don't really cause the scene. She walks out with
her head held high, where I would have probably had
to approach him like are you fucking kidding me right now?
You know, just ruin his whole vibe. But I wish,
I wish I was the type of woman just put
my head up and walk away. But probably I was
(16:34):
actually talking to one of my friends earlier and he
was like, yeah, kay you're not really the best at
saving face. You got to tell everybody how you feel
all the time. And I'm like, oh, yeah, I do.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
I gotta let it do.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
He's like, some people don't deserve that. I'm like, you're right, right,
but I gotta. I just gotta say it. You ain't
doing it for them. I got to put that off
money and put it on to you. Put that off me,
put it on you.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
But anyway, I haven't seen the sight of Kayla's So.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Don't get don't get on my girl. It's a whole
different animal. But as she walks out with her head
hell high, she runs into the turtle like her night
could get any worse, and he's like, hey, join me.
He's like, oh god, you look great, and that kind
of made her feel a little better, which again understandably,
so I feel like absolute shit right now. So thank you,
(17:20):
because I felt ugly after he did that shit. So
she told him. She sat down and she like, straight
up to it. Hi'm like, yo, bro, your breath it's awful.
He's like, oh my god, it's these Chinese herbs. I'm
taking like, I just want to live a long life.
She's like, a breath like that, you'll live a long,
lonely life. I respect her for keeping it real, because
if you're going to choose to sit down with dude,
(17:42):
you might as well tell him what it is. Otherwise, Yeah,
I would have been just embarrassed at myself and matter
myself for settling to sit down with stink breath. So
I'm proud of her for telling them. That's one thing
about Sammy Joe, and I'm happy that it was something fixable,
you know, it's not something that's his problem. And I
think that was a whole a thing. Where what was
that guy with the little neck and he was dating
(18:02):
that Asian girl. It was a little dating show. He
had no neck, but he kind of ye I've never
seen I just saw it like the memes never saw.
Apparently he got like toothbrush and a toothpaste or something,
and she like had some kind of problem and he
looked like the asshole at the end of the day.
But this guy's just had to stop taking the herbs.
So she enjoyed the date with him, and she said,
(18:25):
once she gets that breath out of control, she's gonna
take him shopping for a whole new wardrobe. She's like,
he's a cute little fixed wrapper. Carrie is like, honey,
he's not a Brownstone. He's a man. She's like, when
I'm finished with him, he'll be Gracie's mansion. Whoever that is,
whatever that mask. Carrie's like, in a city of great expectations,
is it time to settle for what you can get?
(18:46):
She needed answers, so she met with Brooke because Carrie
is a user, and she always asked me she sure,
and then she had the nerve to ask her about
being married. Married it's fabulous I feel like an enormous
weight has been lifted, and that's a good thing.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
That's so I'm supposed to me.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Oh just, I mean, it just.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
Means you're and that you're happy with Alan.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Right, happy with Alan right. I would have been offended
first of all, what the fuck are you right? I'm
very happy with my man. You are not my bff. Clearly,
how dare you? Yeah? Clearly? Like Carrie ain't forget what
she said about do it in the first place. She
was never authentically believe in this relationship, so in the
scene she showed her who she was. And I'm just
trying to find out that you're not happy being married
(19:32):
so I can feel comfortable with my man that never
wants to get married. You need to tell me that
you're unhappy so I could be good. It's like crazy
to me.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
True, Like there's no boundaries for Carrie again, like you mentioned, Kayla,
I don't think they're that close for her to be
asking her such intimate questions. Yeah, I would have been
offended first.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
The last time we see broke So how close can
they be? How close can they unless she comes up
later and I just didn't realize. We'll say watch with
us Brooks like, yeah, I'm happy, Carrie says, oh, I
hope I didn't you rub you wrong? Like, you know,
she's apologizing for the energy as she walks on the street,
which I can appreciate. You know, she could have just
swept it under the rug and never talked to book again.
Got the information she needed, and she is writing a column.
(20:09):
She is writing a column. She has to do the research.
I'm sorry if you get a stray bullet during the
research process, you know. But she's like, listen, we all
think we're Carolyn Bassett, and then one day John John's
out of the picture, and you just want somebody who
can throw around a frisbee. I had to do research
on who Carolyn Bassett was and John John was. But
(20:29):
apparently their JFK. Junior and his wife at the time.
They apparently died in a plane crash together in nineteen
ninety nine. But this is before that happened. The couple
type of things. Yeah, yeah, awful, awful and idea. Yeah,
but to settle for somebody who can just throw around
her frisbee is just craziness. He doesn't have to be
JFK Junior, but somebody who gets toss a frisbee. Please
(20:52):
tell me there's a happy medium, you know.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Yeah, that basically her comment basically confirmed that she settled.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
She wasn't marrying.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
She married the most boring I guess, stable, safe choice, and.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
That's that's sad. No, he loved her, but I feel like,
based on how it intro, she dated only a list,
so it sounded like she put herself out there for
a certain period of time and her friends were looking
to see who made the cut. So maybe this girl
was heart nayacing Brook just determined that there isn't that
much great out there, so I might as well settle
(21:28):
for I don't know if it's something consistent, but yeah,
someone who could throw off frisbee like maybe in uh
similes or metaphors or whatever, that just means something consistent. Yeah, Okay,
the guy what a big say in the first episode,
the one that just makes you laughing, that type of thing.
Maybe it's just like another way to say that, which
I don't want to believe that's true, but just basic.
On the way they introduced Brookes to the episode, she
(21:49):
was out in the streets every single weekend was a
senior prom for her. Okay, the guy who's as boring
as drying brick. Whatever the hell it does not even
mean anyway. At that moment, they ran into the Turtle
and Samantha and he was fly in his helmet lang.
(22:10):
Sam made him do a little twirl. They're like, ooh,
he looks good. He looks great. Sam's like he's a
whole new person. I'd be so offended if I was
a rap. I mean the turtle, but who Halema, you
know who? To Hellama, he just happy to have Sam
on his arms. He's like Sam doing a heavy three
o'clock and she's like, oh yeah, I'm taking him to
Bliss for a facial. So the work is just not done.
(22:31):
She's still pouring, pouring more and more time into this man.
At that moment, Brooke had to leave too. She looks
at Sam and she's like a smart girl. She seems
very happy, which okay, I guess sometimes you just need
to have a little fixed rapper, get you a little
ugly smuggly that nobody wants, and they make him better.
I just don't believe in fixed reppers at this day
and age. I feel like Samantha was doing way too
much for this dude to his benefit. Because Lord knows,
(22:55):
he was out there embarrassing himself, all up in everybody's
face with that breath. But I don't believe in a
fixer upper for I mean, I don't know if Sam
was doing it for fun, but I just don't believe
in it for seriousness and not in that at this age.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Yeah, I think fix her upper essentially means you're settling
for whoever, and you're just gonna work hard to make
him up, you know.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
But no, do we have that time At almost.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Forty Nope, a little bit. Carrie wondered if everyone in
Manhattan was settling. She did yoga with Charlotte to clear
her mind, and Shart opens up about how she broke
her vagina with the rabbit. Charlotte, she says she keep
if she keeps using it, she won't be able to
enjoy sex with a man. Carrie's like, why.
Speaker 6 (23:41):
You know, and he's like he's doing everything and it
feels good, but somehow you just can't manage to come. Well,
it's weird because with the rabbit, it's like every time,
at one time it came for.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Like five minutes. Referring back to the ruse, I had
that same thought process the same exactly that what once
a woman finds a toy that makes her satisfied, she's
no longer interested in men. Well, not by scientists, but
by myself. Vibrators are much more I have a higher
(24:19):
success rate than men. I mean, that's a given, but
it's a matter of do I am. I just not
as interested in the thrill of a new partner or
a partner in general, because I know I'm just gonna
get off with this toy. Which yeah, I felt that.
I felt like when I was using the roles, like
it's doing too much, Like I can't even do this anymore.
Like I really felt like I needed to, like mentally
(24:40):
took a pause from it because I felt that way.
You know, nothing compares to a partner, though you know
it's it's an exchange, the the you know, the fun
with them, their facial expressions, your facial expressions. The word exchange.
But when you can't climax. And there's been guys that
I've been so interested in where they were hanging or
whatever the terminology is, it's two guys in particular come
(25:01):
to my situation. Oh yeah, stroke, game, good, whatever the case.
But I just never reached that climax, and it's like,
what's up with that? Why not? Because I'm someone who
can do that with a certain partners or not whatever,
but with you know, I just couldn't and it just
made me feel like with the rose, that's guarantees to happen.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Like, I don't know, it depends on the woman, right,
because what's the percentage of women who can come through penetration.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
I think it's very small.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
It all comes down to anatomy. I don't believe that
it's true. Really we have that a small percentage of
women can come through penetration. I mean, I don't want
to believe that. I just don't want to.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
I just think we, for us, women were more complicated
and we need more than just penetration. I feel like
we need the touching, the kissing, the the no the
sounds okay, you know, like much more than penetration, at
least for me.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Patriarchy will make you feel like something's wrong with the
woman if you can't come through penetration. However, a lot
of this science and studies on sex we're done through
a man's perspective, because you know, patriarchy. But we did
a show the case of the female orgasm on Mating
Matters doctor Wendy Welsh's podcast on her Patreon. Please feel
free to check it out. But we did I did
learn that it is down to the anatomy and how
(26:15):
the woman is shaped on the inside. And you know,
sometimes men just aren't hitting that spot and her spot
can't be reached that way, and it it takes other things.
You know, Well, women have two channels of h orgasm,
right clitoricists on the outside. The G spot is only inside,
so there's two different ways for someone to potentially hit
that point. And to the anatomy matter, if it's on
(26:36):
the outside, some people can't come that way. Some people
can't come at all. It's just it's just how you're
set up. It doesn't mean anything's wrong with you. It's
just the way it. Honestly, a doctor who studied it
taught me this, so I want to, you know, go
with her.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
And for me personally, it's really hard to come through penetration.
So I need my toys and so like, I love
my toys and they're never going to replace men.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
But sometimes you just need to. You need your trusted
you're good old trusted to end the night, you.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Know, just take it real quick, all right, go home,
And then you don't take I don't. It's just like
you're right, you're right, but sometimes it''s awkward, like okay, great, okay,
learn whatever, all right, whatever, whatever. It's not that they're
not they're not doing it right like you said they
They should be doing all the right things. It's just
(27:26):
not happening. And I don't want to make it. And
I told them, you're hung, You're doing all the right things,
but for some reason, I'm not coming. That's a lot.
That's a conversation. I'm not trying to happen, and you
probably keep trying all night and I just want to
go to sleep.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Yeah, and I feel like a lot of ments. Again,
personally speaking, they skip a lot of steps and they
just want to go in through penetry just to penetration
and bat my man and get it over with right.
But it's like there's so much to sex. Penetration could
be like the very.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Last step, very true. I had a guy that did
all the right things. What's the word before sex?
Speaker 4 (28:03):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Yes, for a flag to the point where I told
you this before it sissy, I know sissy. The minute
he put it in. Oh, I was thinking about it.
You're right that guy, that's funny. Oh yeah, I never Yeah,
and there like there are so many things. Eye contact
is a great thing. Like it's just it's so much,
it's so much.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Listen, sometimes I'm it's more pleasurable just to have a
really good makeout session, a really good makeout session with
heavy petting, no penetration. But again, penetration could be just
the very last step.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Yeah, that's true. I experienced that myself. Carry says, you
can enjoy a man and the rabbit, can't you. Charlotte's
like no, and she's like, but you know what, I
can't make it to the ballat to night. She says,
she's done with a rabbit, but she can't make it
to the ballat to night because she has a long
distance phone call, which I'll accept. Is the ninety's okay? Cool? Now,
(29:01):
Carries like, you were never really good at telling a lot.
Looked that. Charlotte like m But she went to the
ballet with Stanford, and Stanford's like, I had it with
the whole gay scene. It's so competitive. He posted a
personal ad that previous week, and he waited twenty minutes.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
When Stanford was ready to call it quits.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Yes, sorry, this is not gonna happen. Nouch first, Samantha,
now Stanford. Our best friends are just taking El's after
El's after Els this episode. I didn't even know putting
ads in the newspaper for dating was a thing. Was
that a real thing? I guess, Oh yeah, they referenced
a couple of times. I guess it was the nineties
version of dating apps. Damn, I can't even imagine. That
(29:43):
just feels even more desperate than downloading the app. Unfortunately,
forget me, I'm not dating in those in the nineties.
I was a kid. Well, he says, it's so brutal
out there. Even the guys that look like me don't
want me. And to be noted, the guy was bald,
just as bald as Stanford, like no more or less attracted.
But he apparently was like yeah no, He claims he
doesn't have the gay look. Carrie is like, well, you
(30:04):
look pretty good at me. She's like, hey, listen, maybe
it's just a phase. Though, you know, we all have
our little rough patches. He's like, nah, Pubert, he's a phase.
Fifteen years of rejection is a lifestyle, Damn, not fifteen
years bro, Yeah, I would not feel good. I just
would stopped trying. I'd just be chronically single. I think
if I was trying for fifteen years and didn't get
any didn't land any fish ouch sad. Yeah. He says
(30:28):
maybe he should just marry a woman and get all
the money. His grandmother apparently gives everyone in the family
their inherence once they get married. She says, she doesn't
know you're gay. He's like, uh, my grandmother doesn't believe
in gay and of course Carrie has to of course
bring up Big. Oh really, that's funny.
Speaker 4 (30:44):
Big doesn't believe in marriage. Maybe you should propose to
me and we'll all live happily ever after.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
He says, you really want it all. She's like, maybe
nobody gets it all. People do get it all, Carrie, Okay,
I know them. But whatever Stanford start, sisters, be consider
to the offer. He's like, we're already best friends. We
make each other laugh, and he'll keep up her expensive
shoe wear and encourage her to cheat. That sounds like
a do you know I don't see a bath if
(31:10):
I get some of that inheritance money. I'm already in
my thirties. They don't want to get married. It's something
I would consider I would consider it too.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Same.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
The next scene, she's in bed with Big, watching him
sleep and smiling at him. He wakes up like, well
you so happy, And here goes her seventh grade ass.
Speaker 4 (31:30):
She got a marriage proposal last night, really a very handsome,
witty young man about to come into his inheritance.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
He looked a little jealous when she said it, though
it kind of works. He's like, do I know this
guy who's this?
Speaker 5 (31:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (31:48):
I think it shows that between this episode and maybe
the last episode or two that makes us care about
Carrie to a certain extent.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
I like the fact that he keeps the conversation going
and just you know, he entertains her for a bit entertained.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
He does entertain care. Lord knows she's a lot entertaining.
And she's like, his name is Stanford, Stanford back and
he's like, I thought he was gay. Carrie's like he is.
He says, well, that'll make for an interesting column, and
he asked, well, what about the sex. She's like, that's
why I have you. He's like, well, you really have
(32:25):
it all figured out, missus Blatch, and I just I
do I do enjoy their banterer ID. It's like they
get each other's sense of humor. There's nothing better, I
feel like, outside of sex. When you crack your bow
up or he cracks you up, that is such a
deep form of intimacy. I agree, it's the best. I
(32:46):
love when I make a joke on the phone and
hit lands and he's like laughing for like five minutes
after I made the joke. Yes, something like from the previous,
Like you know, if you've been dealing with him for
a couple of years, he may bring up something like
from a couple of years ago, like oh, that that
worked so perfectly right there, boo crazy foo. Yeah, I
like that, she said. The more he mocked her, the
(33:07):
more she thought the idea was genius. And yeah, Carrie,
it is. It is. You do have a genius idea
right there, i'd yeah, Carrie. Miranda had plans with Charlotte,
who's canceling again, and they're like, you know what, sis
needs a rabbit intervention. So they pull up at her house.
Speaker 6 (33:28):
Crack.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
They find the rabbit behind the stuffed rabbit, and she's like, Charlotte,
that's so you you would hide the rabbit behind a
rabbit And they rabbit, and she's like, what's the big deal.
I'd just rather stay in the house of my rabbit
then go out and deal with real men. And she's like,
all right, you know what, I'll get dressed. And they
take her vibrator and hand it off. Miranda puts it
in her bag and they high five. Which how close
(33:53):
are these girls? Energy? Friends so much I do, and actually,
to be honest, I have roommates back in the day
and my landlord may needed to come over, somebody needed
to come over and do something. And she's like, yo,
put my vibrators are all on my bag, you please
move them. We did it, but we also had like
gloves and like you no tissues because it was like,
(34:13):
I love her and we're not touching them, but they
were like, and I will. It is like they were
touching the handle rather than the part that goes inside.
It was way too comfortable. They ain't handle tissues, they
handle gloves. They was all up in the mid looking
for it.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
Yeah, and then she put it in her purse. The
purse she was using that.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Nice like every time you open it, like person Charlotte.
It was cute that It's cute.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
I love the closeness, right, yeah, leave her alone, she.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Was doing too much. I need it, I did respectfully, respectfully. No,
leave me alone. I am happy. And then she left
her alone when she canceled the first leave me alone
where that goes? No, when she canceled the back and
it was the second time it was supposed to go out,
and nah, you're not getting it off twice Charlotte, like
(35:04):
you being lazy. Nah, I just want time with myself. Okay,
but apparently you're not allowed to settle for yourself.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
No, but I think Charlotte just needed that help because
she is she was losing it.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
She acknowledged it, agreed to disagreeing with all these girls,
including y'all, but carry said, with.
Speaker 4 (35:24):
A little health from her friends, Charlotte decided that she
wasn't going to settle for herself.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
And that's where I have to just you know, being
with yourself is not settling. It's the longest relationship that
you will always have. If you want to choose to
give yourself orgasms in this chapter rather than dealing with outsiders,
you are more than welcome. Charlotte has another boyfriend every
other episode. Give her this episode to play with herself.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
You know what, Kyla, Yes, I agree with you because
you know, I partakeing those vengerers here and there, and
they're healthy, you know, because you get to explore yourself,
You'll get to learn about yourself. But yeah, I didn't
appreciate Carrie's comment because again she's not like like you said, Kayleak,
settling for yourself is not settling. You're just working on
(36:08):
the relationship with yourself.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Thank you. I don't disagree. I don't disagree. It's just
that I think it was to the point where she
was canceling plans I do it to be with her
vibrator to I mean, I cancel plans toill. Yeah, like
I don't want to hang with y'all bitches this week.
I will see y'all later on in life. But twice
I don't happily gotta I don't have to see y'all
based on Charlotte's preconceived thought of this might be more
(36:33):
than what I need from a man. So I don't
even have a boyfriend this episode because I got a
new vibrator. So she was just leaning in a little
bit too a little bit too much into settling for
an ineedemic object. Versus true physical intimacy with another person.
Fair vibrators and chat GPT and all your issues in
twenty twenty four. Right, Well, I guess it ain't healthy.
(36:58):
Sam's still trying to remake the t Onto, somebody she
could actually fall in love with. He's trying hard to
figure out what kind of mushrooms or in is this.
She's like, is it your talk is? I don't care.
That's the only much for my No. I can't even remember.
He's a fucking weirdo. I was so annoyed. She's like,
maybe it doesn't matter. He's like, I know it's truth.
That's a color. I don't even know if that was
(37:18):
the name of the mushroom that it was, but whatever.
Judging myth anyway, she was like, you know what, no
matter how much work I put into this fly guy,
he's always just gonna be the rabbit. I mean, the turtle.
Goddamn it, definitely not the rabbit. But she's like, you
know what, I'm sick. I'm gonna send myself home. I'll
(37:41):
call you. But I guess he knew that that meant
she was breaking up with him, because I would have
thought she would have called me and she didn't feel good.
You know, as you're recapping this, I'm surprised as Samantha,
who was never one to want to really date one
to really settle down, but she put a lot of
energy and effort into this Turtle, and it sounds like
at a certain point she thought he could be a true,
true person that she could fall in love with, which
(38:02):
is unlike her. And I guess he was like a safe,
unwanted man that nobody else is looking at, that you
could feel comfortable with because he's not out there in
the streets. So it makes me think that Samantha really
does want more than what she claims to want. If
it's with someone who she feels like is not going
to hurt her in the long run, that's true. I
don't know if it was Brook's wedding that made her
(38:22):
spark interest and wanted to be serious with somebody, because
it really isn't like Samantha. They could have wrote that,
written that storyline for a different character and Charlotte, Yeah, yeah, Samantha,
that is pretty odd to put that on her.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
I agree, yeah, now that you bring it up, because
we don't even know if they had sex.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
They didn't show that they didn't show that now. Yeah,
but what I will say also is when she first
started doing this for the sky, I even thought to myself, like,
you can try to I don't know what the word is,
dress someone up put a pig on a lipstick. Put
lipstick on a pig if you will, but it's not
going to change the core of their being. You want
(39:00):
this person for who they are, or you don't stink,
breath and all. Yeah, I mean he fixed that. It
was just his personality that she was never it. He
was never it right right, So all that energy was
a waste for who for what? For why? And I
think that's the lesson that we learned. You can't put
a pig, a pig on lipstick, her lipstick on a
pig and think that it's going to be Los Angeles. Yeah,
(39:22):
you know whatever. He turned over him on the girl
next to him, like, hey, do you like my shirt?
My ex girlfriend picks it out. I didn't know if
the girl was interested or not, because they didn't really
show her reaction. But turnle move right on. And it
speaks to what I mentioned in the last episode that
people know like if other people want me, I'm more desirable.
Speaker 5 (39:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
So he made it a point to plug the ex
girlfriend because he knows that's something that people might want
to hear.
Speaker 4 (39:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
Sure, I mean, I'm probably pretty sure that the girl
probably saw something at the sitting right next to him
two minutes prior, two seconds prior, but maybe she didn't,
and you just wanted to make it clear that y'all
broke up. And I just wouldn't like that, Like, where'd
she just go? Like that? It's weird, but thinking he's
got a decent off it on. We're past the first level,
so the standards are low. I didn't pop the blue.
(40:11):
Stanford Badger carry into at least meeting his grandmother and
they're discussing fashion Carrie's work, and they look at old
family pictures, and his grandmother asked, Carrie, do you want
a family?
Speaker 4 (40:22):
As I looked around at all the memorabilia and family photographs,
the faces of brides and grooms, children and grandchildren, I realized, yes,
I do.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
The grandmother dismissed Stanford, and then she tells Carrie, honey,
he's fruit. The way they talked back then was wild,
my nose, her grand baby, and that's when Carrie realized.
Speaker 4 (40:46):
I realized then that The only inheritance Stanford was going
to get from his grandmother was her collection of Chanel's suits.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
Goals dangs, I know, right, Chanel suits. But Carrie tells
Big in the next scene that some day she wants
to get married. As they cook, and BIG's like, definitely
too much salt. And it's all the timing.
Speaker 6 (41:09):
You got a brown the garlic before you put in
the onions.
Speaker 3 (41:13):
You know what I mean. I thought we were having fun.
Speaker 4 (41:18):
It's better, definitely has possibilities.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
So I'm changing the subject. Talking about the food that
he's cooking means like, oh, it's better and has possibilities.
I once again did not answer her question, or is
he speaking carey language like she's writing. Carrie drew her
own conclusion with that line. He like said, I thought
we were having fun. Bottom line, one day at a time,
like I still don't want to get married. We're having
(41:43):
a good time. Like I'm not taking this seriously. That's
what I heard Big say personally. Yeah, you speak Big sad, Yeah,
Carrie concluded.
Speaker 4 (41:54):
My zen teacher also said the only way to true
happiness is to live in the moment and worry about
the future. Of course, he died penniless and single.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
Damn. I mean, as someone who believes in the former.
The latter really uh just disappointed me. Yeah, I mean,
and I just think, and I will say earlier in
the episode, I guess Carrie was just kind of going
day by day until she realized he never wanted to
get married. She wasn't really pressed about it until he
said that he didn't want to get married. But I
(42:26):
don't think he really gave her any confirmation as if
that will change or not. He's like, we're having fun,
and she's like, you're right. True happiness is living in
the moment, and that's stressing about the future because he's
good either way. Sist you not. And that's what we
need to do. That's what we need to look at.
How to play Carrie okay speak carry play Carrie Duck
(42:47):
and dodge them bullets. Okay, And that's how episode nine ends.
All right, Let's get into the cringiest moments of the episode.
Speaker 6 (42:57):
Ruh.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
The first cringiest moment is due with his stink ass
breath talking to everybody face at the wedding the turtle.
It was just real cringe for me, really embarrassing. Like
norms you mentioned at the beginning, like, if my breath stinks,
please let me know, and I also you know, and
by everyone to let me know, because the last thing
I want to do is talking everybody's face and have
(43:22):
my breath be on ten embarrassing. And then cringe moment
number two is Samantha's settling and dating that stink gas breath, Like,
I'm just at this age, at this big age of
thirty six, God be with me. I'm not settling for
stink gas breath. If you don't know what this age,
that's your breath. Stink, that's on you, bro. I can't
teach a grown man how to have good hygiene Chinese
(43:42):
herbs and all. The next cringiest moment we have is
Samantha going on a date with the guy that she
met at the wedding and then he basically ghosts her
and tries to pick up another girl while they're on
their date, doesn't even say anything to her. She has
to go looking for him to see him in the
back all up in somebody else's face. Uh, I guess
entertaining someone that he just liked better. Terrible, terrible, And
(44:06):
the next cringiest moment is when Stanford puts in a
whole ad like I mean, this is our online dating
can make any of us feel I guess, but puts
in a whole ad to meet somebody stands out there
for twenty minutes after three felled. You know, interactions of thinking,
that's the person that he's supposed to bet up with,
and the guy that finally is the one who answered
this ad looks at him one time and says, yeah,
(44:29):
it ain't gonna happen. Bro. The next cringiest moment is
when Miranda and Carry went to Charlotte's house for the intervention,
was all up in her bed, all up in her stuff,
looking for her Rabbit picked it up by hand, no gloves,
no tissues, put it in their purse to basically throw
away Charlotte's boyfriend. Of the episode, I mean, they could
at least did it with more decorum, had Charlotte throw
(44:52):
it with herself. Yeah, that's that's that's the episode was
pretty cringe as a whole. I'm gonna have to go
with some Antha going on that date telling that man,
ooh you sound like my type.
Speaker 1 (45:05):
Ah.
Speaker 2 (45:05):
Then right after that he left you for his time.
Oh my god, I hate to see it happened.
Speaker 3 (45:15):
That's my most crunch moment too.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
Mm hmm, Well, I'm gonna go with a different one.
I just feel like Samantha actually settling after that moment
and sitting down with stink Breath and thinking that she
could just do something with him to kind of shift
the person that he is, only for him to not
be no different than than what you know she initially
perceived him to be. But I just can't ever see
entertaining stink Breath anymore. Well, the cringe moment is Samantha
(45:39):
being rejected.
Speaker 1 (45:40):
Bruh Okay, let's get into sex and the social media,
starting with this TikTok by mia Imani the.
Speaker 2 (45:47):
City for like the fourth time.
Speaker 5 (45:49):
And one thing that'll never fail to baffle me about
this show is how frequently they call these hideous way
man attractive, Like they refer to them as like sexy
and so good looking, and I'm like, too, baby to
who this is just not my idea of a super
sexy man. It's just not even when I'm looking at
mister Big I'm like, they act like he is the
most astonishingly attractive person in the world on Lookana's face.
Speaker 2 (46:11):
Like, eh, I.
Speaker 5 (46:13):
Don't see it.
Speaker 3 (46:14):
I don't see it.
Speaker 5 (46:15):
Is it just me?
Speaker 2 (46:16):
No, Nia Amani, it is not just you, girl, one
hundred percent. Facts.
Speaker 1 (46:20):
I agree with you, Nia. Someone had to say at
I hate day. Sex and the City is so good
because it's teaching me how to communicate openly about embarrassing
shit with my girls.
Speaker 2 (46:31):
Yep, those girls are honest, that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (46:35):
Very honest at outcasts underscore ed. I knew a girl
who moved to NYC with the same romantic vision in
her heart that only Sex and the City could illustrate,
only for her to end up in Queen's paying twenty
three hundred a month with two roommates she never knew
before and sharing a bathroom depression one on one.
Speaker 2 (46:56):
Yeah, that's exactly what it's like moving to a major city.
Speaker 1 (47:00):
At Dunhill, Melancia, life is very sad when there's no
one to talk about Sex and the City that have
to come here on Twitter and post all my reactions.
Speaker 2 (47:13):
Dude, that's what we're here for.
Speaker 3 (47:15):
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So fucking true, Mariana normalize.
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And Dana still on her eat pray love, traveling the world,
living her best life. But she'll be back and she
will be with us soon. This episode, huh yeah, I
mean keep song, keeping on very very very very turtle
very yeah. After the classic intro, we meet Perfect Brook.
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She's an interior designer who always dated a list guys.
Every Saturday night was like senior prom with a different beat.
When she got married, the girls were so excited to
see which guy made the cut?
Speaker 4 (01:10):
Was I the only one who remembered that Brook once
described this man as more boring than exposed brick.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
He was more boring than exposed brick. He made the cut.
I thought that was funny, because you never forget what
your friends tell you about their dude. Unfortunately, I know
you never know which ones are really gonna work out.
And I gotta stop telling my friends everything, because yeah,
they ain't gonna forget that shit. They gonna forget it.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
It's like those reels where it says me dancing on
my friend's wedding with the men, I told her to
dumb girl.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Or she was like, remember you told me not to
put all my eggs in his basket. I was getting
my friend sent me something too recently about her baby dad.
I don't remember what I said, but she was like,
this is you when it comes to me about how
a friend who don't forget well, he said like, girl,
don't forget what he said. And she's not married to him,
so until she is, girl, No, ain't forget it.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
No.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
But while we sitting here hating on them and they
dancing it, they went and they happy with they baby
and family. Their wedding was an average one hundred thousand
dollars wedding, and our girls were dressed in all black.
Carrie said they looked like the witches Eastwick, and I
think it was a lot of people dressed in black,
so I don't think it was like them being like
funeral at a wedding. But I do love the fact
that they all kind of coordinated.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Yeah. I really like their outfits. Even Miranda Silen stepped
it up on this episode. I would say, Okay, everyone
looked good.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
She says. The wedding at this size always has two
singles tables, and they rat the other one, the less cool,
the less cool one. They were with the children and
the weirdo, and just then that's when the turtle sent
next to them. He was known for two things, good
investments and bad breath. When anybody has like or they
talk about that, they always make the character just get
(02:56):
like really uncomfortably close to the person's face. And he
tried to make a move on Sammy Joe. Sammy Joe's like,
I'm at the other table and went to the cool
table and he's like talking to carry trying to see
if he has a shot, and she's like huh, and
then just start sniffing the flower to get away from him.
It was so funny. I just felt it, like you've
I've been around people with habitually bad breath, so you
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just feel the energy coming through the screen.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
I feel like I could smell his breath.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
What did smell like to you? Something undescribable, just stink,
g ass, breash, Chinese or platosis, I don't even.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Yeah, like morning breath with garlic, oh god, and even
more and tooth thickake or something.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
I don't Yeah, I want to tell a story of
when I drove to Atlanta County to Cape Make County
in New Jersey. If you're familiar, shoutouts with the woman
at my job who had terribly bad breath and I
kept putting essential oils on my upper lip. It sent
it like orange. You couldn't offer a stick of gum.
I didn't have a stick of gum. I don't even
chew gum like that myself. Plus even if I did,
(03:59):
I will know how to do that. But all I
know I was I was trying to protect myself and
I kept putting orange essential oil on my top lip
and it's like orange of funk. Yeah, exactly. Orange isn't
the best ESSENTI maybe ecliptus or something a little stronger,
tea tree thing limit limit did the oranges.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
In my purse?
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Elli?
Speaker 3 (04:16):
And Kayla? If I ever have bad breath, let me know, don't.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
I don't get close enough to people to the day
I can tell you don't know. Okay, I mean, I
just can't say that I have ever smell norms breath.
Can you let me know too? Yeah, Yeah, we'll let
each other know. After two hours they were bored, supplies
were dwindling, and Samantha jump ship. She was making out
some Hattie mccatstein, because they always meet the Hatti mcatsteins,
(04:41):
according to them, anyway, according to their standards. Charlotte wants
to stick around and catch the bouquet, and Miranda's like,
so not happening. They all say bye to the bride
and she gives them all individual parting words.
Speaker 5 (04:59):
Do that.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Pelle's got some great single friends.
Speaker 5 (05:10):
It's always better to marry someone who loves you more
than you love them.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Why did she say what she said to each one
of them? Why did she say to Miranda? Can you
believe I finally did it? Miranda gave her a fake,
a smile that she sure wiped off the second her
eyes behind girl's back, like fake, Like I don't want
to know why I like that at my wedding. No,
but I think she gave them all something that was
particular to their character. I will say Miranda's like the
(05:34):
cinistic one or cynical, Yeah, cynical one, Like you know
you're not gonna believe I did it, So you can't
believe I finally did it? And then too Charlotte like
you're next, and then Carrie Charlotte's wife. Yeah, cause Charlotte's
wife be like, yeah, this is what you want is
coming for you. And then for Carrie, she needed that
reminder marry someone who loves you more, which I've heard
(05:56):
from other people before.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
I've heard that too.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Women naturally love harder, so you always want a man
who wants you more than you want them. That's what
I think women are taught. Where we all taught that.
I wasn't taught that. I feel like it's something I
heard in my adulthood. I even heard Rihanna said it.
You know, when I say taught, I don't necessarily in childhood.
But I do think, like you know, we're told that.
We're taught that like that that's the key to a
healthy relationship, whether here as an adult, teenager, kid. It's
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something that women say to each other.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Yeah. I can't say I hear it too often. I
don't know that everyone all women are buying into that one,
but I've heard it before.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
I feel like I've heard it for older from older
women in our families, but maybe once or twice, not
as often as the toxic Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Yeah, Carrie says, people always tell her things that she
doesn't want to hear, and then she calls Big, asking.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
Question, why do people get married if they're not in love?
Speaker 6 (06:52):
I don't know, companionship guild, political asylum.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Why did you get married?
Speaker 3 (07:01):
That is so sweet?
Speaker 2 (07:02):
And then I was a divorce court.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Yeah, now you're just a fool.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Exactly, which is why I'm never getting married again. Another
bomb dropped by mister Big. Episode by episode. Now, uh,
he's never getting married again. I want to say the
reasons that he gave guilt, political asylum. I forget what
else he said, but I feel like that those were
all valid reasons that people probably really consider before they
jump into getting married. But that was real. Yeah, all
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of a sudden, carry had to concentrate on breathing, which
is just a real relatable feeling when somebody you're into
or you're bow that you project onto just says something
that just like wait, huh, bomb, you gotta ground yourself again?
At cool? Oh, I love that for us. That's great.
Happy on the same page, that sucks. And then she
(07:52):
asked are you in bed with someone? And he's like, no,
are you? And she's like, just three slices of wedding cake.
Are you jealous? He's like, depends on what you want
to do with the frosting. She's like good night, and
he's like good night. So now she's cool with him
seeing other people. I'm just confused, because you want to
understand still with you in a park two days ago? Now,
I was like, Hey, so you're in bed with somebody?
Or are you good? Like? Where do you stand Carrie?
(08:14):
What are your boundaries with this man? I guess she
recognized a hand gaver all or nothing answer. He just
stood still with her in the park. Yeah, so okay,
she got the message.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
You know what I saw it.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
More of her or big statement of not wanting to
get married was a little triggering to her, and so
her jealousy immediately came out. Are you in bed with someone?
That's how I took it most Oh that's true?
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Say that? Yeah? Maybe she thinks to herself, could she
really date a man who never wanted to get married?
I don't think I could not at this age.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
I mean, I feel like you should cut it before
you gets you going deeper into that relationship.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Yes, ma'am. How many some options if I'm entertaining that. Yeah,
she asked to check in with her friends.
Speaker 5 (09:02):
Wow, a guy.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Who doesn't want.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
To get married filming eleven?
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Don't tell me you're surprised by this?
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Do you ever wanted to get married? Mayor? Who missed you?
She starts to realize that that's maybe isn't her target
audience who says things like that to somebody? My man,
I never wants to get married. Oh you surprised?
Speaker 4 (09:18):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (09:18):
You know?
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Only people that miss that Mommy's gets married like Mary cynical?
Speaker 3 (09:23):
What echo pessimist? People who love to burst people's bubbles.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Of course, Charlotte didn't feel that way. Charlotte says she's
the only one who thinks that this is a major bummer.
What if you spend five years with him and then
you have nothing to show for it? She said she
wasn't thinking about it until he took it off the table,
and now it's all she could think about, which is
interesting because we're, you know, thirty something dating. So if
I if I'm seeing somebody you know regularly enough, I'm like,
(09:52):
is this my husband? Where does he hear what I mean?
He definitely said a definitive statement. My mind set these
days as there's no weeds, no reason why you should
not take that as his truth. So then yeah, you
have a lot to contemplate if you want to be
serious with this man and you recognize that, how serious
could it get if he doesn't want to get married.
So I understand that Sam says the golden rule what
(10:15):
you've been saying the whole time, Aliyah, pretty much, just
be cool, you don't care, and when you stop caring,
he will, and there'll be a whole new ball game.
Unfortunate part of the game. I hate that part of
the game.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Do you still think it's true though, because to me
it sounded a little immature.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
You sound like Miranda, because Miranda's like, what is it
just always sixth grade for you? I mean, unfortunately, I
think it is true. I think, but I feel like
the worst part of it all is you can't control it.
It's not like, oh, I love this man up, I
want him to be my husband, but I want to
act like I don't care. Unfortunately, it's like when you
really don't care, that's when the dudes you don't care
about come for you the hardest. And when you do care.
(10:53):
I guess guys sense that, and for some reason it
just doesn't work out the way you want it to.
Our good Cusdaina, I think would agree that, you know,
the less you care, the more they do.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Yes, okay, so twin X and I do agree with that,
but I would say it in different terms, right, like,
as soon as you stop chasing and you don't give
them that attention, then they start chasing you.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
Right.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Yeah, I don't know that was a tactic. I'm still
trying to master. I'll let you know how that goes. Unfortunately,
I'm with Charlotte. She thinks honesty and communication are ways
to success. Yes, it's true, Samantha shit right on it.
She said that's cute at twenty five, but you're thirty
two now and it's just stupid.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Ye's wrong, I mean, not wrong, but I mean this
is coming from someone who gave up on that, right.
She doesn't want a date, she doesn't want a commitment,
she doesn't want marriage, So of course it's coming. That's
going to come from Samantha. But don't be mean to Charlotte.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Yeah, I mean, you know, I guess Charlotte's used to
it by now. But Miranda Carrie is like, so should
I just ignore it? Miranda says, yes, shar says no.
Miranda's like, what's the big deal. In fifty years men
will be obsolete anyways. We can't talk to them. We
don't need them to have kids. You don't even need
them to have sex anymore. And then she proclaims love
(12:14):
for her vibrator. Carrie's like, oh, so you're replacing a
man with a battery operated device. But the Rabbit was
an ultimate I guess vibrator in the nineties. I love
that it compares to the Rose. Four. I'm gonna be
last year. I'm outdated, but the Rose. I haven't heard
(12:34):
anything else after the Rose. Not that I talk to
people about vibrators too often, but the Rose was a
topic of all conversation.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
No, I'm all about the magic wand wireless magic wond.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
No, have you heard of the Rose? Yes, okay, I
don't know if a wand compares to a rose. I
ain't never tried the wand, so I don't know. But
not everybody talking about the magic wand that rose. Now
I'm kidding, But yes, I.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Mean I am shopping for a new one, so maybe.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Get you a rose, girl. And then I want to
know if the Rose compared to the magic wand will
you will be able to talk to the magic wand
after you meet the rose, you know what it will.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Yeah, let's stay tuned for them. I'll keep you posted.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Samantha's like, if you're going to get a vibrator and
get something named the horse, not a rabbit, Charlotte says
all the things a vibrator can't do. She's like, a
vibrator can't call you on your birthday, It can't send
you flowers. You can't take it home to meet your mom.
Can't do that with ninety of these guys now, anyway,
God bless. Miranda's like she knows where her next orgasm
(13:35):
is coming from? Can any of you say the same?
And all the girls looked around real guilty, like because
Miranda made a good point, checkmate. And the next scene,
Samantha went on a date with a real guy while
the other girls they go out to buy a rabbit.
It's ninety two dollars, and Charlie's like, there's no way
I'm buying that. I'm just gonna save sex for someone.
It is expensive. It's actually gonna save sex or someone special.
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And then Carrie pulls down He's like, oh my god,
it's so adorable. It's not scary at all. It looks
like a little Johnny rabbit. It's like, okay, Charlotte, that's
all you needed to look at it, Okay, all right.
Carry In the next scene, is in bed with her
new rabbit that she bought, just staring at it and
not using it, looking at it very confused, like or interested.
I don't know what kind of expression she was giving.
(14:19):
But Sam calls to tell her about a date she
had with Jeremy. He was a man that she met
at Brook's wedding. He said he knew from the moment
he saw her at the wedding that he would be
taking her out. She says, Ooh, you're cocky, and he's like,
while checking out another woman. Sam didn't notice, but he's like,
when I see something I like, I go after it.
She's like, ooh, You're my type of guy. He's like,
(14:42):
hold that thought. I know that feeling. Unfortunately, why was
being attracted to like a confident, cocky yess dude that
just like looks at you, but like you get what
he wants from you by the way he's looking at you.
So yeah, And I can't help but to sometimes be
attracted to that. Oh yeah, the confidence is key. If
you're confident, then yeah, I think I think that attracts
(15:04):
a lot of people. He looks like the cook guy.
What's that cook guy, Guy Fieri or something like that,
the blonde one, the idiot sandwich guy, Guy Fieri's somebody. Yeah,
he looks like the guy that the guy that she
went on a date with, looks like him. But I
don't know if it is him, but slimmer, yeah, but
he was.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
It was.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
It was the nineties. It's not him, no, no, all
right whatever. All these hot white guys look like uh huh.
But yeah, he said, hold that thought, and she obviously
had seen something else he liked and.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
Gone after it.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
He was there, just all bowed up with another woman,
all in her face, leaning over her, flirty back and forth,
out disrespectful, Almost as bad as a few episodes back
where Skipper broke up with the girl he was inside
of her. I mean, just going on a date with
some dude. He's like, damn, I never experienced that one.
(15:54):
But that's fucked up. That that that hurts. That hurts. Sorry.
Bounce back from like that would definitely take a shot
at my steam shout in my confidence. I just like,
who does that? Damn? Like, these men are savage out.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
Here, trash, and we do see the hurt in her
in her.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Vowed for her the acting. I felt for her too,
But you know what, I do love these girls because
they don't really cause the scene. She walks out with
her head held high, where I would have probably had
to approach him like are you fucking kidding me right now?
You know, just ruin his whole vibe. But I wish,
I wish I was the type of woman just put
my head up and walk away. But probably I was
(16:34):
actually talking to one of my friends earlier and he
was like, yeah, kay you're not really the best at
saving face. You got to tell everybody how you feel
all the time. And I'm like, oh, yeah, I do.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
I gotta let it do.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
He's like, some people don't deserve that. I'm like, you're right, right,
but I gotta. I just gotta say it. You ain't
doing it for them. I got to put that off
money and put it on to you. Put that off me,
put it on you.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
But anyway, I haven't seen the sight of Kayla's So.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Don't get don't get on my girl. It's a whole
different animal. But as she walks out with her head
hell high, she runs into the turtle like her night
could get any worse, and he's like, hey, join me.
He's like, oh god, you look great, and that kind
of made her feel a little better, which again understandably,
so I feel like absolute shit right now. So thank you,
(17:20):
because I felt ugly after he did that shit. So
she told him. She sat down and she like, straight
up to it. Hi'm like, yo, bro, your breath it's awful.
He's like, oh my god, it's these Chinese herbs. I'm
taking like, I just want to live a long life.
She's like, a breath like that, you'll live a long,
lonely life. I respect her for keeping it real, because
if you're going to choose to sit down with dude,
(17:42):
you might as well tell him what it is. Otherwise, Yeah,
I would have been just embarrassed at myself and matter
myself for settling to sit down with stink breath. So
I'm proud of her for telling them. That's one thing
about Sammy Joe, and I'm happy that it was something fixable,
you know, it's not something that's his problem. And I
think that was a whole a thing. Where what was
that guy with the little neck and he was dating
(18:02):
that Asian girl. It was a little dating show. He
had no neck, but he kind of ye I've never
seen I just saw it like the memes never saw.
Apparently he got like toothbrush and a toothpaste or something,
and she like had some kind of problem and he
looked like the asshole at the end of the day.
But this guy's just had to stop taking the herbs.
So she enjoyed the date with him, and she said,
(18:25):
once she gets that breath out of control, she's gonna
take him shopping for a whole new wardrobe. She's like,
he's a cute little fixed wrapper. Carrie is like, honey,
he's not a Brownstone. He's a man. She's like, when
I'm finished with him, he'll be Gracie's mansion. Whoever that is,
whatever that mask. Carrie's like, in a city of great expectations,
is it time to settle for what you can get?
(18:46):
She needed answers, so she met with Brooke because Carrie
is a user, and she always asked me she sure,
and then she had the nerve to ask her about
being married. Married it's fabulous I feel like an enormous
weight has been lifted, and that's a good thing.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
That's so I'm supposed to me.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Oh just, I mean, it just.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
Means you're and that you're happy with Alan.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Right, happy with Alan right. I would have been offended
first of all, what the fuck are you right? I'm
very happy with my man. You are not my bff. Clearly,
how dare you? Yeah? Clearly? Like Carrie ain't forget what
she said about do it in the first place. She
was never authentically believe in this relationship, so in the
scene she showed her who she was. And I'm just
trying to find out that you're not happy being married
(19:32):
so I can feel comfortable with my man that never
wants to get married. You need to tell me that
you're unhappy so I could be good. It's like crazy
to me.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
True, Like there's no boundaries for Carrie again, like you mentioned, Kayla,
I don't think they're that close for her to be
asking her such intimate questions. Yeah, I would have been
offended first.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
The last time we see broke So how close can
they be? How close can they unless she comes up
later and I just didn't realize. We'll say watch with
us Brooks like, yeah, I'm happy, Carrie says, oh, I
hope I didn't you rub you wrong? Like, you know,
she's apologizing for the energy as she walks on the street,
which I can appreciate. You know, she could have just
swept it under the rug and never talked to book again.
Got the information she needed, and she is writing a column.
(20:09):
She is writing a column. She has to do the research.
I'm sorry if you get a stray bullet during the
research process, you know. But she's like, listen, we all
think we're Carolyn Bassett, and then one day John John's
out of the picture, and you just want somebody who
can throw around a frisbee. I had to do research
on who Carolyn Bassett was and John John was. But
(20:29):
apparently their JFK. Junior and his wife at the time.
They apparently died in a plane crash together in nineteen
ninety nine. But this is before that happened. The couple
type of things. Yeah, yeah, awful, awful and idea. Yeah,
but to settle for somebody who can just throw around
her frisbee is just craziness. He doesn't have to be
JFK Junior, but somebody who gets toss a frisbee. Please
(20:52):
tell me there's a happy medium, you know.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Yeah, that basically her comment basically confirmed that she settled.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
She wasn't marrying.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
She married the most boring I guess, stable, safe choice, and.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
That's that's sad. No, he loved her, but I feel like,
based on how it intro, she dated only a list,
so it sounded like she put herself out there for
a certain period of time and her friends were looking
to see who made the cut. So maybe this girl
was heart nayacing Brook just determined that there isn't that
much great out there, so I might as well settle
(21:28):
for I don't know if it's something consistent, but yeah,
someone who could throw off frisbee like maybe in uh
similes or metaphors or whatever, that just means something consistent. Yeah, Okay,
the guy what a big say in the first episode,
the one that just makes you laughing, that type of thing.
Maybe it's just like another way to say that, which
I don't want to believe that's true, but just basic.
On the way they introduced Brookes to the episode, she
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was out in the streets every single weekend was a
senior prom for her. Okay, the guy who's as boring
as drying brick. Whatever the hell it does not even
mean anyway. At that moment, they ran into the Turtle
and Samantha and he was fly in his helmet lang.
(22:10):
Sam made him do a little twirl. They're like, ooh,
he looks good. He looks great. Sam's like he's a
whole new person. I'd be so offended if I was
a rap. I mean the turtle, but who Halema, you
know who? To Hellama, he just happy to have Sam
on his arms. He's like Sam doing a heavy three
o'clock and she's like, oh yeah, I'm taking him to
Bliss for a facial. So the work is just not done.
(22:31):
She's still pouring, pouring more and more time into this man.
At that moment, Brooke had to leave too. She looks
at Sam and she's like a smart girl. She seems
very happy, which okay, I guess sometimes you just need
to have a little fixed rapper, get you a little
ugly smuggly that nobody wants, and they make him better.
I just don't believe in fixed reppers at this day
and age. I feel like Samantha was doing way too
much for this dude to his benefit. Because Lord knows,
(22:55):
he was out there embarrassing himself, all up in everybody's
face with that breath. But I don't believe in a
fixer upper for I mean, I don't know if Sam
was doing it for fun, but I just don't believe
in it for seriousness and not in that at this age.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Yeah, I think fix her upper essentially means you're settling
for whoever, and you're just gonna work hard to make
him up, you know.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
But no, do we have that time At almost.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Forty Nope, a little bit. Carrie wondered if everyone in
Manhattan was settling. She did yoga with Charlotte to clear
her mind, and Shart opens up about how she broke
her vagina with the rabbit. Charlotte, she says she keep
if she keeps using it, she won't be able to
enjoy sex with a man. Carrie's like, why.
Speaker 6 (23:41):
You know, and he's like he's doing everything and it
feels good, but somehow you just can't manage to come. Well,
it's weird because with the rabbit, it's like every time,
at one time it came for.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Like five minutes. Referring back to the ruse, I had
that same thought process the same exactly that what once
a woman finds a toy that makes her satisfied, she's
no longer interested in men. Well, not by scientists, but
by myself. Vibrators are much more I have a higher
(24:19):
success rate than men. I mean, that's a given, but
it's a matter of do I am. I just not
as interested in the thrill of a new partner or
a partner in general, because I know I'm just gonna
get off with this toy. Which yeah, I felt that.
I felt like when I was using the roles, like
it's doing too much, Like I can't even do this anymore.
Like I really felt like I needed to, like mentally
(24:40):
took a pause from it because I felt that way.
You know, nothing compares to a partner, though you know
it's it's an exchange, the the you know, the fun
with them, their facial expressions, your facial expressions. The word exchange.
But when you can't climax. And there's been guys that
I've been so interested in where they were hanging or
whatever the terminology is, it's two guys in particular come
(25:01):
to my situation. Oh yeah, stroke, game, good, whatever the case.
But I just never reached that climax, and it's like,
what's up with that? Why not? Because I'm someone who
can do that with a certain partners or not whatever,
but with you know, I just couldn't and it just
made me feel like with the rose, that's guarantees to happen.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Like, I don't know, it depends on the woman, right,
because what's the percentage of women who can come through penetration.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
I think it's very small.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
It all comes down to anatomy. I don't believe that
it's true. Really we have that a small percentage of
women can come through penetration. I mean, I don't want
to believe that. I just don't want to.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
I just think we, for us, women were more complicated
and we need more than just penetration. I feel like
we need the touching, the kissing, the the no the
sounds okay, you know, like much more than penetration, at
least for me.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Patriarchy will make you feel like something's wrong with the
woman if you can't come through penetration. However, a lot
of this science and studies on sex we're done through
a man's perspective, because you know, patriarchy. But we did
a show the case of the female orgasm on Mating
Matters doctor Wendy Welsh's podcast on her Patreon. Please feel
free to check it out. But we did I did
learn that it is down to the anatomy and how
(26:15):
the woman is shaped on the inside. And you know,
sometimes men just aren't hitting that spot and her spot
can't be reached that way, and it it takes other things.
You know, Well, women have two channels of h orgasm,
right clitoricists on the outside. The G spot is only inside,
so there's two different ways for someone to potentially hit
that point. And to the anatomy matter, if it's on
(26:36):
the outside, some people can't come that way. Some people
can't come at all. It's just it's just how you're
set up. It doesn't mean anything's wrong with you. It's
just the way it. Honestly, a doctor who studied it
taught me this, so I want to, you know, go
with her.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
And for me personally, it's really hard to come through penetration.
So I need my toys and so like, I love
my toys and they're never going to replace men.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
But sometimes you just need to. You need your trusted
you're good old trusted to end the night, you.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Know, just take it real quick, all right, go home,
And then you don't take I don't. It's just like
you're right, you're right, but sometimes it''s awkward, like okay, great, okay,
learn whatever, all right, whatever, whatever. It's not that they're
not they're not doing it right like you said they
They should be doing all the right things. It's just
(27:26):
not happening. And I don't want to make it. And
I told them, you're hung, You're doing all the right things,
but for some reason, I'm not coming. That's a lot.
That's a conversation. I'm not trying to happen, and you
probably keep trying all night and I just want to
go to sleep.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Yeah, and I feel like a lot of ments. Again,
personally speaking, they skip a lot of steps and they
just want to go in through penetry just to penetration
and bat my man and get it over with right.
But it's like there's so much to sex. Penetration could
be like the very.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Last step, very true. I had a guy that did
all the right things. What's the word before sex?
Speaker 4 (28:03):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Yes, for a flag to the point where I told
you this before it sissy, I know sissy. The minute
he put it in. Oh, I was thinking about it.
You're right that guy, that's funny. Oh yeah, I never Yeah,
and there like there are so many things. Eye contact
is a great thing. Like it's just it's so much,
it's so much.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Listen, sometimes I'm it's more pleasurable just to have a
really good makeout session, a really good makeout session with
heavy petting, no penetration. But again, penetration could be just
the very last step.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Yeah, that's true. I experienced that myself. Carry says, you
can enjoy a man and the rabbit, can't you. Charlotte's
like no, and she's like, but you know what, I
can't make it to the ballat to night. She says,
she's done with a rabbit, but she can't make it
to the ballat to night because she has a long
distance phone call, which I'll accept. Is the ninety's okay? Cool? Now,
(29:01):
Carries like, you were never really good at telling a lot.
Looked that. Charlotte like m But she went to the
ballet with Stanford, and Stanford's like, I had it with
the whole gay scene. It's so competitive. He posted a
personal ad that previous week, and he waited twenty minutes.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
When Stanford was ready to call it quits.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Yes, sorry, this is not gonna happen. Nouch first, Samantha,
now Stanford. Our best friends are just taking El's after
El's after Els this episode. I didn't even know putting
ads in the newspaper for dating was a thing. Was
that a real thing? I guess, Oh yeah, they referenced
a couple of times. I guess it was the nineties
version of dating apps. Damn, I can't even imagine. That
(29:43):
just feels even more desperate than downloading the app. Unfortunately,
forget me, I'm not dating in those in the nineties.
I was a kid. Well, he says, it's so brutal
out there. Even the guys that look like me don't
want me. And to be noted, the guy was bald,
just as bald as Stanford, like no more or less attracted.
But he apparently was like yeah no, He claims he
doesn't have the gay look. Carrie is like, well, you
(30:04):
look pretty good at me. She's like, hey, listen, maybe
it's just a phase. Though, you know, we all have
our little rough patches. He's like, nah, Pubert, he's a phase.
Fifteen years of rejection is a lifestyle, Damn, not fifteen
years bro, Yeah, I would not feel good. I just
would stopped trying. I'd just be chronically single. I think
if I was trying for fifteen years and didn't get
any didn't land any fish ouch sad. Yeah. He says
(30:28):
maybe he should just marry a woman and get all
the money. His grandmother apparently gives everyone in the family
their inherence once they get married. She says, she doesn't
know you're gay. He's like, uh, my grandmother doesn't believe
in gay and of course Carrie has to of course
bring up Big. Oh really, that's funny.
Speaker 4 (30:44):
Big doesn't believe in marriage. Maybe you should propose to
me and we'll all live happily ever after.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
He says, you really want it all. She's like, maybe
nobody gets it all. People do get it all, Carrie, Okay,
I know them. But whatever Stanford start, sisters, be consider
to the offer. He's like, we're already best friends. We
make each other laugh, and he'll keep up her expensive
shoe wear and encourage her to cheat. That sounds like
a do you know I don't see a bath if
(31:10):
I get some of that inheritance money. I'm already in
my thirties. They don't want to get married. It's something
I would consider I would consider it too.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Same.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
The next scene, she's in bed with Big, watching him
sleep and smiling at him. He wakes up like, well
you so happy, And here goes her seventh grade ass.
Speaker 4 (31:30):
She got a marriage proposal last night, really a very handsome,
witty young man about to come into his inheritance.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
He looked a little jealous when she said it, though
it kind of works. He's like, do I know this
guy who's this?
Speaker 5 (31:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (31:48):
I think it shows that between this episode and maybe
the last episode or two that makes us care about
Carrie to a certain extent.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
I like the fact that he keeps the conversation going
and just you know, he entertains her for a bit entertained.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
He does entertain care. Lord knows she's a lot entertaining.
And she's like, his name is Stanford, Stanford back and
he's like, I thought he was gay. Carrie's like he is.
He says, well, that'll make for an interesting column, and
he asked, well, what about the sex. She's like, that's
why I have you. He's like, well, you really have
(32:25):
it all figured out, missus Blatch, and I just I
do I do enjoy their banterer ID. It's like they
get each other's sense of humor. There's nothing better, I
feel like, outside of sex. When you crack your bow
up or he cracks you up, that is such a
deep form of intimacy. I agree, it's the best. I
(32:46):
love when I make a joke on the phone and
hit lands and he's like laughing for like five minutes
after I made the joke. Yes, something like from the previous,
Like you know, if you've been dealing with him for
a couple of years, he may bring up something like
from a couple of years ago, like oh, that that
worked so perfectly right there, boo crazy foo. Yeah, I
like that, she said. The more he mocked her, the
(33:07):
more she thought the idea was genius. And yeah, Carrie,
it is. It is. You do have a genius idea
right there, i'd yeah, Carrie. Miranda had plans with Charlotte,
who's canceling again, and they're like, you know what, sis
needs a rabbit intervention. So they pull up at her house.
Speaker 6 (33:28):
Crack.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
They find the rabbit behind the stuffed rabbit, and she's like, Charlotte,
that's so you you would hide the rabbit behind a
rabbit And they rabbit, and she's like, what's the big deal.
I'd just rather stay in the house of my rabbit
then go out and deal with real men. And she's like,
all right, you know what, I'll get dressed. And they
take her vibrator and hand it off. Miranda puts it
in her bag and they high five. Which how close
(33:53):
are these girls? Energy? Friends so much I do, and actually,
to be honest, I have roommates back in the day
and my landlord may needed to come over, somebody needed
to come over and do something. And she's like, yo,
put my vibrators are all on my bag, you please
move them. We did it, but we also had like
gloves and like you no tissues because it was like,
(34:13):
I love her and we're not touching them, but they
were like, and I will. It is like they were
touching the handle rather than the part that goes inside.
It was way too comfortable. They ain't handle tissues, they
handle gloves. They was all up in the mid looking
for it.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
Yeah, and then she put it in her purse. The
purse she was using that.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Nice like every time you open it, like person Charlotte.
It was cute that It's cute.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
I love the closeness, right, yeah, leave her alone, she.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Was doing too much. I need it, I did respectfully, respectfully. No,
leave me alone. I am happy. And then she left
her alone when she canceled the first leave me alone
where that goes? No, when she canceled the back and
it was the second time it was supposed to go out,
and nah, you're not getting it off twice Charlotte, like
(35:04):
you being lazy. Nah, I just want time with myself. Okay,
but apparently you're not allowed to settle for yourself.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
No, but I think Charlotte just needed that help because
she is she was losing it.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
She acknowledged it, agreed to disagreeing with all these girls,
including y'all, but carry said, with.
Speaker 4 (35:24):
A little health from her friends, Charlotte decided that she
wasn't going to settle for herself.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
And that's where I have to just you know, being
with yourself is not settling. It's the longest relationship that
you will always have. If you want to choose to
give yourself orgasms in this chapter rather than dealing with outsiders,
you are more than welcome. Charlotte has another boyfriend every
other episode. Give her this episode to play with herself.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
You know what, Kyla, Yes, I agree with you because
you know, I partakeing those vengerers here and there, and
they're healthy, you know, because you get to explore yourself,
You'll get to learn about yourself. But yeah, I didn't
appreciate Carrie's comment because again she's not like like you said, Kayleak,
settling for yourself is not settling. You're just working on
(36:08):
the relationship with yourself.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Thank you. I don't disagree. I don't disagree. It's just
that I think it was to the point where she
was canceling plans I do it to be with her
vibrator to I mean, I cancel plans toill. Yeah, like
I don't want to hang with y'all bitches this week.
I will see y'all later on in life. But twice
I don't happily gotta I don't have to see y'all
based on Charlotte's preconceived thought of this might be more
(36:33):
than what I need from a man. So I don't
even have a boyfriend this episode because I got a
new vibrator. So she was just leaning in a little
bit too a little bit too much into settling for
an ineedemic object. Versus true physical intimacy with another person.
Fair vibrators and chat GPT and all your issues in
twenty twenty four. Right, Well, I guess it ain't healthy.
(36:58):
Sam's still trying to remake the t Onto, somebody she
could actually fall in love with. He's trying hard to
figure out what kind of mushrooms or in is this.
She's like, is it your talk is? I don't care.
That's the only much for my No. I can't even remember.
He's a fucking weirdo. I was so annoyed. She's like,
maybe it doesn't matter. He's like, I know it's truth.
That's a color. I don't even know if that was
(37:18):
the name of the mushroom that it was, but whatever.
Judging myth anyway, she was like, you know what, no
matter how much work I put into this fly guy,
he's always just gonna be the rabbit. I mean, the turtle.
Goddamn it, definitely not the rabbit. But she's like, you
know what, I'm sick. I'm gonna send myself home. I'll
(37:41):
call you. But I guess he knew that that meant
she was breaking up with him, because I would have
thought she would have called me and she didn't feel good.
You know, as you're recapping this, I'm surprised as Samantha,
who was never one to want to really date one
to really settle down, but she put a lot of
energy and effort into this Turtle, and it sounds like
at a certain point she thought he could be a true,
true person that she could fall in love with, which
(38:02):
is unlike her. And I guess he was like a safe,
unwanted man that nobody else is looking at, that you
could feel comfortable with because he's not out there in
the streets. So it makes me think that Samantha really
does want more than what she claims to want. If
it's with someone who she feels like is not going
to hurt her in the long run, that's true. I
don't know if it was Brook's wedding that made her
(38:22):
spark interest and wanted to be serious with somebody, because
it really isn't like Samantha. They could have wrote that,
written that storyline for a different character and Charlotte, Yeah, yeah, Samantha,
that is pretty odd to put that on her.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
I agree, yeah, now that you bring it up, because
we don't even know if they had sex.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
They didn't show that they didn't show that now. Yeah,
but what I will say also is when she first
started doing this for the sky, I even thought to myself, like,
you can try to I don't know what the word is,
dress someone up put a pig on a lipstick. Put
lipstick on a pig if you will, but it's not
going to change the core of their being. You want
(39:00):
this person for who they are, or you don't stink,
breath and all. Yeah, I mean he fixed that. It
was just his personality that she was never it. He
was never it right right, So all that energy was
a waste for who for what? For why? And I
think that's the lesson that we learned. You can't put
a pig, a pig on lipstick, her lipstick on a
pig and think that it's going to be Los Angeles. Yeah,
(39:22):
you know whatever. He turned over him on the girl
next to him, like, hey, do you like my shirt?
My ex girlfriend picks it out. I didn't know if
the girl was interested or not, because they didn't really
show her reaction. But turnle move right on. And it
speaks to what I mentioned in the last episode that
people know like if other people want me, I'm more desirable.
Speaker 5 (39:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
So he made it a point to plug the ex
girlfriend because he knows that's something that people might want
to hear.
Speaker 4 (39:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
Sure, I mean, I'm probably pretty sure that the girl
probably saw something at the sitting right next to him
two minutes prior, two seconds prior, but maybe she didn't,
and you just wanted to make it clear that y'all
broke up. And I just wouldn't like that, Like, where'd
she just go? Like that? It's weird, but thinking he's
got a decent off it on. We're past the first level,
so the standards are low. I didn't pop the blue.
(40:11):
Stanford Badger carry into at least meeting his grandmother and
they're discussing fashion Carrie's work, and they look at old
family pictures, and his grandmother asked, Carrie, do you want
a family?
Speaker 4 (40:22):
As I looked around at all the memorabilia and family photographs,
the faces of brides and grooms, children and grandchildren, I realized, yes,
I do.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
The grandmother dismissed Stanford, and then she tells Carrie, honey,
he's fruit. The way they talked back then was wild,
my nose, her grand baby, and that's when Carrie realized.
Speaker 4 (40:46):
I realized then that The only inheritance Stanford was going
to get from his grandmother was her collection of Chanel's suits.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
Goals dangs, I know, right, Chanel suits. But Carrie tells
Big in the next scene that some day she wants
to get married. As they cook, and BIG's like, definitely
too much salt. And it's all the timing.
Speaker 6 (41:09):
You got a brown the garlic before you put in
the onions.
Speaker 3 (41:13):
You know what I mean. I thought we were having fun.
Speaker 4 (41:18):
It's better, definitely has possibilities.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
So I'm changing the subject. Talking about the food that
he's cooking means like, oh, it's better and has possibilities.
I once again did not answer her question, or is
he speaking carey language like she's writing. Carrie drew her
own conclusion with that line. He like said, I thought
we were having fun. Bottom line, one day at a time,
like I still don't want to get married. We're having
(41:43):
a good time. Like I'm not taking this seriously. That's
what I heard Big say personally. Yeah, you speak Big sad, Yeah,
Carrie concluded.
Speaker 4 (41:54):
My zen teacher also said the only way to true
happiness is to live in the moment and worry about
the future. Of course, he died penniless and single.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
Damn. I mean, as someone who believes in the former.
The latter really uh just disappointed me. Yeah, I mean,
and I just think, and I will say earlier in
the episode, I guess Carrie was just kind of going
day by day until she realized he never wanted to
get married. She wasn't really pressed about it until he
said that he didn't want to get married. But I
(42:26):
don't think he really gave her any confirmation as if
that will change or not. He's like, we're having fun,
and she's like, you're right. True happiness is living in
the moment, and that's stressing about the future because he's
good either way. Sist you not. And that's what we
need to do. That's what we need to look at.
How to play Carrie okay speak carry play Carrie Duck
(42:47):
and dodge them bullets. Okay, And that's how episode nine ends.
All right, Let's get into the cringiest moments of the episode.
Speaker 6 (42:57):
Ruh.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
The first cringiest moment is due with his stink ass
breath talking to everybody face at the wedding the turtle.
It was just real cringe for me, really embarrassing. Like
norms you mentioned at the beginning, like, if my breath stinks,
please let me know, and I also you know, and
by everyone to let me know, because the last thing
I want to do is talking everybody's face and have
(43:22):
my breath be on ten embarrassing. And then cringe moment
number two is Samantha's settling and dating that stink gas breath, Like,
I'm just at this age, at this big age of
thirty six, God be with me. I'm not settling for
stink gas breath. If you don't know what this age,
that's your breath. Stink, that's on you, bro. I can't
teach a grown man how to have good hygiene Chinese
(43:42):
herbs and all. The next cringiest moment we have is
Samantha going on a date with the guy that she
met at the wedding and then he basically ghosts her
and tries to pick up another girl while they're on
their date, doesn't even say anything to her. She has
to go looking for him to see him in the
back all up in somebody else's face. Uh, I guess
entertaining someone that he just liked better. Terrible, terrible, And
(44:06):
the next cringiest moment is when Stanford puts in a
whole ad like I mean, this is our online dating
can make any of us feel I guess, but puts
in a whole ad to meet somebody stands out there
for twenty minutes after three felled. You know, interactions of thinking,
that's the person that he's supposed to bet up with,
and the guy that finally is the one who answered
this ad looks at him one time and says, yeah,
(44:29):
it ain't gonna happen. Bro. The next cringiest moment is
when Miranda and Carry went to Charlotte's house for the intervention,
was all up in her bed, all up in her stuff,
looking for her Rabbit picked it up by hand, no gloves,
no tissues, put it in their purse to basically throw
away Charlotte's boyfriend. Of the episode, I mean, they could
at least did it with more decorum, had Charlotte throw
(44:52):
it with herself. Yeah, that's that's that's the episode was
pretty cringe as a whole. I'm gonna have to go
with some Antha going on that date telling that man,
ooh you sound like my type.
Speaker 1 (45:05):
Ah.
Speaker 2 (45:05):
Then right after that he left you for his time.
Oh my god, I hate to see it happened.
Speaker 3 (45:15):
That's my most crunch moment too.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
Mm hmm, Well, I'm gonna go with a different one.
I just feel like Samantha actually settling after that moment
and sitting down with stink Breath and thinking that she
could just do something with him to kind of shift
the person that he is, only for him to not
be no different than than what you know she initially
perceived him to be. But I just can't ever see
entertaining stink Breath anymore. Well, the cringe moment is Samantha
(45:39):
being rejected.
Speaker 1 (45:40):
Bruh Okay, let's get into sex and the social media,
starting with this TikTok by mia Imani the.
Speaker 2 (45:47):
City for like the fourth time.
Speaker 5 (45:49):
And one thing that'll never fail to baffle me about
this show is how frequently they call these hideous way
man attractive, Like they refer to them as like sexy
and so good looking, and I'm like, too, baby to
who this is just not my idea of a super
sexy man. It's just not even when I'm looking at
mister Big I'm like, they act like he is the
most astonishingly attractive person in the world on Lookana's face.
Speaker 2 (46:11):
Like, eh, I.
Speaker 5 (46:13):
Don't see it.
Speaker 3 (46:14):
I don't see it.
Speaker 5 (46:15):
Is it just me?
Speaker 2 (46:16):
No, Nia Amani, it is not just you, girl, one
hundred percent. Facts.
Speaker 1 (46:20):
I agree with you, Nia. Someone had to say at
I hate day. Sex and the City is so good
because it's teaching me how to communicate openly about embarrassing
shit with my girls.
Speaker 2 (46:31):
Yep, those girls are honest, that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (46:35):
Very honest at outcasts underscore ed. I knew a girl
who moved to NYC with the same romantic vision in
her heart that only Sex and the City could illustrate,
only for her to end up in Queen's paying twenty
three hundred a month with two roommates she never knew
before and sharing a bathroom depression one on one.
Speaker 2 (46:56):
Yeah, that's exactly what it's like moving to a major city.
Speaker 1 (47:00):
At Dunhill, Melancia, life is very sad when there's no
one to talk about Sex and the City that have
to come here on Twitter and post all my reactions.
Speaker 2 (47:13):
Dude, that's what we're here for.
Speaker 3 (47:15):
A girl, guy or whoever it's a gat a gat, Yeah,
it's a girl.
Speaker 2 (47:20):
That's what we're here for. A girl. Make sure you
follow us at Sex and the City of Angels. Get
in on the conversation.
Speaker 3 (47:25):
At Mariana Whisman and the City.
Speaker 1 (47:34):
Carrie. In other words, I love watching Sex and the
City when I'm having a bad day because no matter
how bad my day is, Carrie is having a worse one.
So fucking true, Mariana normalize.
Speaker 2 (47:49):
It's all the shitty things that we may or may
not have been through, right. Make sure you follow us
at Sex and the City of Angels, and follow me
at the Kayla Austin at Yogi, undiscover.
Speaker 1 (48:00):
Aliyah at norm So Willy, and make sure you follow
our girl Dana.
Speaker 2 (48:05):
We'll see you next time.
Speaker 5 (48:07):
Bye.
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